And yet Biden is about to give a speech tripling down on his "dark winter of sickness and death for the unvaccinated". He is quite literally flying the plane straight into the ground. Then urinating on it. Then setting it on fire again.
Trump is pretty much finishing off his hopes of a '24 candidacy by sticking like glue to "his vaccines". The moment it becomes inescapable that they are unsafe and ineffective the entire pharma/media establishment is going to turn and blame him for that.
Yeah it is dumb for him to get a booster, let alone a vaccine at all as he recovered from the 'rona. However, just like everyone else, his doctor apparently recommended it and it is his choice. He is opposed to mandates. That is the problem, mandates.
Back when the vaccines first came out. They saved a lot of at risk people. The fact that the vaccines didn't last is a different problem. I still think operation warp speed was a success. He also knew we needed therapeutics much of which was poo-pooed by the establishment.
No he's not. We aren't leftists. We can accept that people can be good in some areas and terrible in others.
Trump is a very trusting person. It's why he continuously chose bureaucrats who were desperate to betray him. It's also why he did nothing to shop the mass censorship by social media of all of his allies. Facebook and Twitter told him they wouldn't abuse their powers and they wouldn't turn around and censor him.
Will it be a word soup...with a massive mix of threats and tell the legal citizens they are stupid? The news today is full of could be's and may be's. 73% of the country may be infected with Omicron variant and the Midwest may be as high as 90% infected! And the citizens have to take urgent action to stop hospitalations and deaths connected to the virus!
Are they not adding deaths all the time that have no relationship to the virus? And a huge push for massive testing! Why? The tests can't tell the difference between flu or Covid, right? So they are going to replace it with a new test? And why can we not have inexpensive medication (think OTC) at home if we think that a runny nose and low fever cold might be covid. Why shod people run out and get tested for a cold? I do not understand this absurdity and loss of common sense. And let's continue letting illegals & terrorists stream across the southern border and transport them across the country to states they need to keep or turn permanent blue (super spreaders). "C"mon man!"
I'm worried that Biden will forced by his handlers to declare martial law. If that happens, we'll have no human or civil rights at all. Game over.
Biden is nothing but a senile, pathetic, disgusting puppet. But the powers that created this gain-of-function-enhanced coronavirus and the bioweapon "vaccines" are satanic. Don't confuse the two.
If his handlers actually try that, I'm not sure the military will go along with enforcing it. Not very many state and local police forces will be on board, either. Everyone seems pretty 'covided out'.
Its what happens with the Faucis and the Gates having power and the money to play God with the rest of us. There wil always be a Josef Mengele out there.
And as for boosters…even if they did work against Omicron, which I think is doubtful, ANY vaccine depresses your immune system for a few weeks—the reason they ask if you feel well when you get any vaccine. I think that heading into any viral surge, or a major family holiday, is probably the worst time to want to depress your immune system, contrary to all the official calls to “get boosted now!”
So the booster is going to depress the immune system also? Won't that lead to higher infection risk? Also the booster is not a "booster" as in say tetanus - it's another dose of the same medicine which was designed for the original Alpha variant so what's that going to do?
Doesn't each variant diminish the potency of the virus? So if you contract the Omicron after taking the booster, wouldn't your natural immunity also automatically kick-in? Or, are you saying the booster would depress that natural process?
It is a tough decision for an 80 year old, especially one in excellent health....at this age, when friends and family members are dropping like flies, one does not suddenly become fatalistic. But, I'm not spending my last few years hiding behind a mask, afraid to entertain. Nope, we are having our annual Christmas Eve party, Biden be damned!
Which is to say - get yourself some first line therapeutics (see FLCCC and Zelenko protocols). Have ivermectin or hydroxy prescribed online if your doctor won't do it. And then, GET OUT AND ENJOY YOUR LIFE!!!
No, sadly, the booster stifles your innate immune system. (same as the 1st two doses). It simply programs your body to respond with only one particular antibody that was designed to target the spike protein from the original virus. The spike has changed since then, so the antibody is useless. The innate immune system just doesn't kick in, which is exactly how the vx is meant to work.
Add Brian May of Queen to the list. He finally ventured out after two years to have lunch with friends. They made sure everyone tested negative before the lunch but virus gonna virus. He said he thought he was in a "safe bubble" but he now has C19 and he's vaccinated and boosted..
Ha ha! Love his Baroque haircut and guitar playing but he turns out to be a Leftist turd. "Climate change will kill all! Don't use fossil fuels and stay in your houses. "
From my understanding Slow Hand got his first shot and experienced weeks of pain in his extremities. He was worried he would never play again. He came out with a short video criticizing mandates. I seriously doubt if he received any more experimental mRNA gene therapy
Cramer is an idiot. He doesn't even know much about the market (said Bear, Stern's wouldn't fail two days before it did), so why would anyone believe him about Covid.
Corey Booker actually called himself "Spartacus" when trying to boost his relevancy during the Kavanaugh hearings., trying to prove how "brave" he was to release documents that he claimed were not allowed to be released, but, in fact, had already been released. Ben Shapiro had hilarious set of tweets about it.
Actually, we do know it likely would have been mild for them given the data we have. It's strange to give the vaccine credit when it's not warranted. It's a religion.
So true. When my double-vaxxed parents came down with Delta last summer and were sick in bed for 2 weeks, my older sister (an MD), assured me that they only survived because they'd been vaxxed. I countered with, "or they were much sicker than they would've been without it." Of course, we have no way of knowing. It's a study of two, and the important studies to actually test these things with large groups double-blinded will NEVER be done, so the True Believers will keep on believing...
You’re comment is spot on! I read a few headlines today about fully vaxxed and boosted persons that have tested positive and the articles say exactly what you stated…”thankfully they had the booster or it would have been much worse”. How can anyone say that? No one knows how mild or severe it would have been. This is yet another point that drives me crazy.
I don't fully agree. I just finished Alex's book. One of its messages should be is that the powers that be, especially the media but also government apparatchiks who should have known better, have been incompetent at best, or deliberately lying and deceitful at worst, from the beginning. Alex amply documents statement after statement from them that was probably known to be at best a half-truth, at worst a total lie, even at the time it was made. As you put it: "There is a lot being stated as fact that has no basis in factual evidence." That's a rather serious problem, when it occurs repeatedly in official channels and especially coming from authorities (e.g. scientists who presumably have the same, or better evidence than we have access to), wouldn't you think?
Perhaps a bit off topic, but did you know that if you, as a sober driver, through no fault of your own, hit and kill a pedestrian who was drunk, it is still considered an "alcohol-related vehicle fatality" for government statistics? Although I'm sure these are a bare chemical trace of total alcohol related deaths, it's still a curious example of record-keeping. Sort of like blaming the tree when you plow into it, isn't it?
Alex’s graph is number of cases and yours is rate per 100,000. I commented along these lines earlier. Rate seems a more honest measure than raw number, since there are simply more vaxxed people in Ontario than unvaxxed.
Using the same dataset Alex linked to above, you can click the "per 100,000" button to get the rates. Not sure if we can say for certain yet that the virus preferentially targets vaccinated people - Rate per 100,000 still shows unvaxed higher than vaxed. 24.3 per 100,000 unvaxed vs. 17.2 per 100,000 for fully vaxed. So 1.4 unvaxed cases for every 1 vaxed case.
However, they're converging.
Back in September, per the same data set, the unvaxed/vaxed ratio was 6!
At the end of November it was 4!
Now, it's 1.4.
Certainly we can say the vaccine protection has eroded to the point of near parity with unvaccinated. We should watch to see if we hit negative efficacy - where rate per 100,000 of fully vaxed is higher than unvaxed. THAT is the true inflection point.
Ontario also has a very high vaccination rate across the entire population. They are probably reaching a point where the unvaccinated are less susceptible due to prior immunity due to exposure.
Some argue the vax impairs natural immunity response going forward. It will be very interesting to follow the data on reinfection for the vaxxed then infected, infected then vaxxed, vs. natural immunity no vax.
If only we had a public health system that wants to collect and share this data.
It does. We have data on this-- there are SO many books that have done research on the health between unvaccinated and vaccinated-- focusing on children. (check out Vaccine Coalition Canada, Childrens Health Defense)
The data seems clear that natural infection is much better protection than getting vaxxed. Calling vaxxed infections breakthroughs is ridiculous. For claimed breakthroughs on natural immunity, I would question the PCR threshold on the supposed two infections.
The data I want to learn about is reinfection for the vaxxed. I am guessing unlikely since we probably would have seen it in heavily vaxxed old age homes.
The coach of the NFL New Orleans Saints was diagnosed with Covid in March 2020. Despite my efforts, I was unable to determine if he was a "case" or had symptomatic Covid. But he tested positive last week (the NFL stupidly was testing asymptomatic vaccinated). If he had actual Covid in 2020 (not just a positive test), then was vaccinated, and then tests positive, which conclusion is most likely: (1) the tests are useless, (2) vaccination after previous infection destroys natural immunity, (3) the vaccines fail to protect against infections, or (4) all of the above.
My son in law got a positive test 9 months after the whole family got it. He was sick for 2 days tops then fine. Daughter and kids never got a positive test. My daughter had to stay out of work for 14 days as a close contact. I questioned PCR cycles myself. But they don't tell you what it was.
My SIL got it from a vexed boosted person. So my personal evidence of this being a pandemic of the vaccinated
PCR thresholds were changed. But there was also a period in 2020 where some locations weren't even testing to count a case. The assumption was if you exhibited symptoms in a high spread area, you were counted as a case. I think this was mainly during the initial infection spike of 2020.
I'm not sure what was going on when the flu magically disappeared during the next winter spike. I have heard some say the tests confuse covid and flu, which seems odd.
That kind of info is all over the place-- adding to what I suggested in an earlier post check also the Weston Price Foundation. Del Bigtrees site etc.-- TONS Of stuff (if you use duck Duck Go 😊)
Problem being all the charts and numbers being put out are from the very same entities that have lied to us from the beginning. You trust a chart or numbers from any of them to be factual? Not me. Figures lie and liars figure🤔 if someone gets A vax then gets the very virus they were vaxxed against--thats an Epic Fail in my book
Or more likely, the unvaxxed dont get sick because they have strong innate and adaptive immune system. Every jab your immune system weakens. Its like wiring a lamp wrong-- it will work but not as well.
That's the primary reason I went for the J&J option. A single, less immunogenic shot was less likely to trigger OAS, ADS, or autoimmune issues. It's also why the boosters are stupid even if you can make a case for the original vaccination being beneficial.
Well this is nice to hear because this is exactly what I did. I plan to be on a pro-autophagy diet for about 5 years anyway. I just had a nasty cold but cleared it quickly so I seem to not have damaged the native plumbing
Alex Berenson had a post suggesting the J&J as the least likely to cause harm. Also, I used to work for J&J. While the company isn't as altruistic as it likes to pretend internally, it isn't as actively malicious as Pfizer.
You're oversimplifying. So am I. 🤓 OAS can happen with natural immunity, too. The main indictments against the mRNA injections are: they induce production of only one type of antibody, against "Classic Wuhan" original virus, presumably long gone from the wild. They produce a huge burst of antibodies that quickly fades (few months), hence the urging for boosters after just few months*; also the unproven and increasingly dubious long-term safety of the jab. Natural infection produces a broader immune response, the body doesn't go ape shit producing just the one type of antibody. In general, the natural immunity should be many times better as it will be more "up to date" (more recent viruses), multiple immune responses, not just one, and expected to better respond to similar future viruses.
*Absent other immune system issues, an apparent problem with repeated mRNA doses is that with repeated applications, the immune system mounts a weaker response. This is claimed to have been a problem with the early mRNA research; it was thought that a better application would be for "vaccines." So perhaps it should be no surprise that the immunity fades quickly, and thus the need for boosters. Well if the fade issue holds, then each additional booster will produce a flaccid response, yet one more problem for the vaxx cheerleaders.
Alex mentions this issue in his book, but apparently doesn't provide a cite for the source(s).
Prof Byram Bridle (find him on Rumble) a Canadian virologist banned from his own lab at the University of Guelph for refusing the vaccine has said that he has information from many sources that are seeing an exponential rise in soft tissue cancers in recent months. This is in line with Dr Ryan Cole who has said the same. Byram is one of the bravest scientists in North America and has had death threats and all sorts of intimidation thrown at him. His original rejection of the vaxxes came back in May when he said "we made a big mistake with the spike protein manufacture, that it is actually toxic". He had access to Pfizer data from trials in Japan that showed the biodistribution of the vaccine went all through the body - it did not stay in the shoulder muscle.
This creates a curious situation. Giving them the benefit of doubt, the Gov is pushing vaccines/boosters because they are therapeutic and thus reduce the severity of infection. If, however, the vaccines are NOT immunizing, then by pushing vaccines they are postponing herd immunity. This appears to be case given that we are 2 years into this. What we really need is a thorough study of breakthrough cases to see if these folks have lasting immunity comparable to those infected prior to vaccination.
I'd love to know on what basis anyone can assert that the gene therapy "vaccines" reduce hospitalizations. They are not sterilizing as you said. It's like saying that because I wore two tee shirts on a cold day I didn't get as sick as I might have if I only wore one. How would you know what didn't happen? It's entirely subjective.
Sorry why are you giving them a benefit of a doubt at this point? Didn't a lot of Americans do that before they were hoodwinked into going into Iraq-- how long does it take to see these "authoriites" for what they are criminal organizations.
Setting Ontario aside for a minute, take a look at Ireland where apparently they have vaxxed over 90% of the population and are now in a partial lockdown. The vaccines are designed to fail. This is not about a virus or a vaccine.
Another problem comparing to a small group (only 14% unvaxxed) is small group bias (term made up by me). For example, in a group of only 2, if 1 gets sick, that's a 50% rate but you can't extrapolate that to a larger group.
There is a very real problem with comparing unvaxxed to vaxxed populations with no controls. These groups can look very different. For instance, the unvaxxed population likely has a few people who are very committed to natural, healthy lifestyles but also some who are already very sick with other ailments that make it inadvisable to get the vaccine.
Quite the opposite can happen too. Alex cites in his book this possibility. Especially in the very highly vaxxed nations, it was usually the most at-risk (the elderly) who received the vaxx. Since the virus does its worst on the most frail and usually the very old, that of necessity means that many of the "unvaccinated" the press so disdainfully reports as being in hospital or dead were precisely the people who COULDN'T BE VAXXED because they were too frail already! The media lie about damned near everything. In the case of bemoaning all the ill or dying unvaxxed, then, they are basically blaming the victim, people who simply could not be vaxxed.
Yes, without knowing the underlying rate of infection in both populations, this is a serious confounding variable.
I also know that the campaign has pushed hard to get people to take the vaccine even if they had covid. We'd need to know if the prior infected are disproportionately among the unvaccinated. I'd say that it's likely to skew in the direction of the unvaccinated, but by how much is hard to say.
We will never get that info. VAR's are being covered up and passed off as "coincidence" and so will the vaxx failures. And the labs in Ontario still run the CT above 35. Most of the "cases" are no worse than a normal cold or mild flu. People are just crazy here, getting tested. I know at least 50 people who have been tested positive in the last 2 weeks and I was sicker than all of them with what was no more than a normal heavy cold. I'm leaning heavily towards the "Unbekoming" view point that this is all a massive Ponzi scheme to make money for Big Pharma.
I've thought that for some time but I kept trying to take off my tinfoil hat, then events just seemed to continue to confirm my original thinking. Then I listened to Sukharit Bakdhi who now says the vaxxes were designed to fail. Then I read that Trudeau's family trust is heavily invested in Acuitas who make the LNP's. Then I read that the Shermans were murdered because they knew this was coming and had stockpiled HCQ for the Canadian government then threatened to blow the whistle that the virus was actually developed in the Winnipeg lab. How far down the rabbit hole do we go?
Sorry? what? Where are you getting that Ontario has a "very high vaccination rate across the entire population"? Love to see your sources. What do you mean where the unvaccinated are less susceptible " due to prior immunity due to exposure". Do you mean a natural immunity reaction. The one that has kicked in every year of that persons life for whatever virus comes their way. ?
Based on the linked data, the unvaccinated over 5 years of age is only 14%. That is a very high vaccination rate and skews the results as the unvaccinated aren't going to be generally representative of the population. They are also likely to be people who have either been infected or trust their immune systems. So yes, I mean people with good immune systems.
Be careful what you define as "unvaxxed". Ontario doesn't count you as vaxxed until 14 days after the 2nd shot. So anyone up to and including day 14 is classified as unvaxxed. Also Trudeau's "one shot summer" is now coming into play. Majority of vaxxed did not get their second shot until the Sept/Oct period. They waited up to 12 weeks after the first shot. Then he said it was a good idea (based on nothing) to mix and match. This PM used to be drama teacher so he knows as much as a chipmunk about epidemiology. Anyway - say October + 4 months = February based on what happened in Ireland in terms of waning efficacy. Hence the massive push for 3rd and even 4th shots now. Omicron is a diversionary tactic to explain away the useless vaccines.
Also our PM has a 17% stake in a UofBC developed Pharma company that was involved in the creation of the nano-lipid protein cover which permits the mRNA to enter the blood system easily and then of course spread ALL through the body including permeating the blood brain barrier. A big no no in medicine.
Notice that the case counts give you a choice of current or 7 day rolling average, the surge has happened entirely in the last week, but the rate display only gives you a 7 day average - it's lagged and we will have to wait a week to see the rate display catch up.
Nice catch. If you look at the daily data for 12/20, the unvaxed case rate per 100,000 is 26.29 and the vaxed is 24.6. Single dose is 20.31 and has been trending lower than two dose for days.
It should be noted that these all seem like too low of numbers of infections to really get any information and they haven't updated the data per age group which is important to know. All it would take is spread in a long term care facility to really screw up the numbers.
Rate per 100k may be the best metric that we have but a very flawed metric. As someone gives as an example: in a population of 10 (7 vaxxed/ 3 unvaxxed) with 3 vaxxed and 3 unvaxxed cases, the rates would be 42% & 100% which would lead you to believe significant protection for the vaxxed component. The smaller the unvaxxed group is (and it is shrinking), the less relevant the rates per 100k are and the more relevant actual case numbers begin to be.- JMO
The original Phase 3 tests (Pfizer? Moderna? Both?) even though each arm (vaccine, placebo) had about 20,000 people each, the claimed success rates for efficacy were based on not much larger numbers! Talk about making grandiose extrapolations from tiny samples!.
They should give the numbers since time of vaccination. Since its known vaccine wanes with time this would show how long it takes for the protection to turn negative.
Yes! @Golden_Pup is doing amazing work to make the data easy to read.
The most galling aspect of Ontario's stats is the daily "unknown" vax status when it comes to hospitalizations and icu admittance. Many figure it is a way to sweep vax injuries out of the vaxxed column, but we don't know because they never explain it, so everyone speculates.
Either way, it doesn't look good on the government's ability to track anything.
Boosters create uncertainty about how the body deals with accumulating spike proteins as well as uncertainty on immune system adaptation to repeated innoculation.
It's horrifying to think nobody knows how this is going to play out while forcing it on populations globally.
And yet the people running it claim The Science supports forcing it even onto children at close to no risk to covid, with a leaky shot that doesn't prevent spread.
Define short-term protection. Define Efficacy. High zone tolerance?? 🤣 If you define them as I do (medical definitions) then there is no protection and therefore there is no efficacy. Negative efficacy?do you mean side effects of vaccines-- if so there is a many page bio of books I can send you that have shown just that-- that there are damaging immune system impacts done by vaccines and I don't mean the gene therapy masquerading as a vaccine (that redefinition CDC, WHO etc)
You seem knowledgeable about these things whereas I am a construction guy. What do you know about the Novavax that Canada is supposed to get? Is it more of the same crap or does it actually work?
If the booster is required to be fully vaccinated - they are they not just moving the goal post - ergo everyone double jabbed get reclassified as the unvaccinated?
Actually, it has already occurred in the UK and in Sweden. Probably has also in other countries but most steadfastly refuse to give infection rates since time of vaccinated. They’ll give it up to 6 months where efficacy has dropped to null, but not after that.
They will eat their young! Anyone who fears Covid more than the arbitrary edicts designed to provide the illusion of safety must already be sick in the head.
Well, we sort of already know that they will at least "use" their young because all three vaccines required (either for development or testing) fetal cell lines developed from aborted fetal tissue. If they have an alternative to using fetal tissues, they haven't disclosed it, despite the fact that doing so would eliminate the religious exemption and would gut a good chunk of the opposition, from a legal standpoint. So, apparently, they can only produce and test it if they use fetal tissue, i.e. "eat the young".
I hate to see anyone get sick, but that loudmouth tyrant Jim Cramer just said he’s positive for Convid. Tough to feel sorry for him after his insane rant last week, but hope he recovers soon.
It’s not very Christian of me but with the news that Jim Cramer, Cory Booker, and Fauxcahontas are positive puts a tiny smile on my face. I normally would never think this way but the disgusting vitriol aimed at us by these very people make me angry
It might be fake. He felt the need to show his test, to prove a lie? Add him to pocahontas and spartacus and you have some of the most dishonest shills in the country. Why believe them now?
His comment was that he definitely would have been a lot sicker if he hadn't had all 3 shots. How, just HOW, does he know this? And yet, it never occurs to these people to wonder why they've had all these shots and they're still getting sick?!!
Exactly! I was one of those people with a very mild case, and I AM quite healthy (exercise, eat right, take vitamins). From the very beginning, I have questioned why public health "experts" have never so much as suggested increasing vitamin D intake, getting a little more exercise, losing a little weight. Just sit in your house and wait for the vaccine! So aggravating.
To covidians, IVM is blasphemous. Like HCQ. They're lucky the people running this disaster allowed them MABs as an option.
Personally I would avoid monoclonals because it's another EUA. But for people at serious risk, it's better than nothing (or even worse, remdesevir and a vent).
Not reported because you know how strong and effective natural immunity is. Cannot have humanity knowing this. Kind of like not having humanity know about all the wonderful, cheap, safe and effective preventative and early treatment options there has been like Ivernectin and HCQ. God forbid these perps suggest the right thing to do!
Yep, natural immunity is even more a taboo topic in the propaganda stream media. It's almost as if they discourage mention of anything that might interfere with a narrative that ensures profits to Pharma and power to petty tyrants...but perhaps I'm just paranoid? 🤫
The Dems know this virus is burning out as all flu’s do, and are concerned the fear of it is waning. Biden’s remarks on Tuesday are probably an attempt to infuse another shot of fear into our society for the purposes of keeping this going until 2024.
It could be both or it could be that the jab is not only failing but has decimated the immune system of the jabbed. The jabbed are likely to be more worried about the virus as well so they are probably more likely to dash off and get tested at the slightest sign of a sniffle whereas the non-jabbed will say ‘hmmm, what do you know. I have the sniffles. I will stay home and have some soup’…
They are ALL designed to fail (or experiment) that includes Polio which everyone LOVES to bring out as the golden child of Vaccines. These gene therapy wanna-be's are no different. They are designed to do one thing only-- make money and life time rents (due to new chronic illness side-effects among others) for Pharma
Thanks for this information. Isn't this exactly what Robert Malone, Geert Vanden Bossche, Mike Yeadon and other scientists have been warning would happen?
I mean, let's be honest here. The COVID clinically insane pearl clutchers (about 20% of the population) won't care that this is a mild disease. Another 20% of the population hasn't really given a shit about covid since day 1. Will be interesting to see how the normies in the middle react to the fact that the virus gives zero protection against transmission, but this variant really is just a fucking cold.
6. All levels of public health have become petty tyrants who spread fear and encourage division between vaxxed and unvaxxed. No mention of good nutrition, essential vitamins/minerals, etc.: they have destroyed their credibility
Speaking of vitamins, check out this study. It is golden. Dr. John Campbell has a few youtube videos reviewing the study, one includes an Israeli doctor:
COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
Exactly!!! An adequate and stable level of vitamin D has long been seen as a crucial part of the puzzle, but then the evil monsters downplayed it and dismissed it.
Pathologist Dr Ryan Cole has been banging the drum about proactively taking care of your health, he and Drs Malone, Kory, McCollough, and Vanden Bossche (just to name a few) are excellent resources. They've said this is a pandemic of under-treatment and lack of early treatment.
Interesting how only a few families own most of the business (outside of government goons) in Canada. THAT is why prices are so high and distribution so inefficient, but it does allow the government to only have to involved a limited number of corrupt people.
They appear to have changed all the graphs and data on that page to 'discourage vaccine hesitancy'. If you look now, you won't find that graph above, and all the data shows unvaxxed are majority of: Cases, hospitalizations and ICU.
Now if I had to guess who is lying on track record, its a clear winner for the Government of Ontario and all Canadian official media. While AB here has a stellar record for truthfulness, including extra emails to correct errors.
I was just informed that in BC, specifically Vancouver I believe. the government has fined people upwards of $20,000.00 for attempting to upload fake vaxx-passes to get some kind of government QR code or whatnot. However, the caller tells me that the radio announced, "it's all ok now as they all have appointments".
The assumption is, the fines are dropped if you agree to get vaccinated.
Something so dark and evil is afoot here that there is no actual adjective for it yet.
Meanwhile, I sincerely hope that Alex downloaded the Ontario webpage with the graphs or has screen grabs of it all. If so, it needs to be posted ASAP.
UPDATE: Mayor of Hamburg caught manipulating Covid data to coerce vaxx
But he did cherry-pick the data, since the per-100k plot shows a bigger increase among vaccinated recently but still lower case rate versus unvaccinated...
Sorry, I don't see it. I think enough people are here that we can figure out if the graph is blocked in Ontario. Or maybe set VPN for the US or something. But i just get the 'sorry' error.
Oh boy. So this could be an equally important story. Ontario may have geoblocked the graph so people don't 'get the wrong idea'. Sounds like politics in the 21st century.
Thanks. I haven't found it yet. Even so, the various layers of Canadian governments are not above lying in the boldface and data manipulation would be an easy call for them. This whole thing stinks.
Look all the government and public health appartachiks are doing these manipulations to get their Christmas bonuses-- seriously. When will people realize their health is a product to these people from which they make their money.
The lil narcissist fraud would simply say if you don't heed him you are against science itself. Name one person in your lifetime you now know of who has been responsible for more destroyed lives and livelihoods in the world than Fauci?
I was aware of those 3 epidemiologists mention who took a stance early on with Collins and his fellow agenda collaborators yes. Great info for those not yet knowing the true historical context of Collins and Fauci and the NIH
A friend of mine got Covid from a fully vaccinated friend of hers. I wonder how that gets reported? The vaccinated passing it on to the unvaccinated. But I guess this truth will go unreported.
No mystery here with vaccinated folks carrying a viral load 250 times that of the unvaccinated according to a study out of Oxford. Hard to admit but the vaccinated people are spreading the virus. This is what viruses do.
More precisely, that is what a novel leaky "vaccine" of a type never widely deployed in world history, gives relatively good systemic immunity (whatever correct term is) but does not prevent the virus from infecting and reproducing in the airways. [The above "explanation" subject to my "Cliff Notes" understanding of the mechanisms.]
We should look at the rate per 100,000 which is 17 for the vaccinated and 24 for the unvaccinated. That would make is seem like the unvaccinated are still getting infected at a higher rate than the vaccinated, however there is a caveat: the unvaccinated are tested much more often than the vaccinated, which makes the comparison completely unfair. What they should tell us is the POSITIVE RATE over time in each group (positive tests / total number of tests).
Colorado consistently reports more un-injected hospitalizations than injected, which goes against pretty much everywhere else I've looked. Either CO is a unicorn or they lie about their data.
Not so fast, Alex. The apparent “preference“ for the vaccinated shows up only in the absolute numbers but not in the rate of cases per 100,000. That is the more relevant statistic. On the other hand, it appears that the rate of increase is much greater in the vaccinated group based simply on the visual slope of the lines. Enjoying the book.
Alex, I'm a big fan of your work, but this email seems a little disingenuous (more like what we hear from the talking heads on TV), which isn't what I've come to expect from you. Why did you choose to show raw case numbers for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? Showing the rate of cases by vaccination status would seem to be more meaningful, since the proportion of vaccinated and unvaccinated in the population is constantly changing. I went to the website you referenced and viewed this Ontario data by rate. It shows the case rate for the unvaccinated is about 150% of the rate for the vaccinated/partially vaccinated--which would indicate that being vaccinated still provides protection against the virus. However, it's worth noting that the slope of the rate line for vaccinated over the last week is steeper than that of the unvaccinated, which could mean that within a couple of weeks even the rate for vaccinated will be greater than for the unvaccinated. That would definitely support the case you're making!
There is a reason they cut off the age stratification data at November 28th (you can check for yourself that the age specific case rates stop there.)
It is because in recent weeks, the groups above 18 show higher case rates for the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. This is also the case in the UK numbers.
It’s crazy! Now the media has partially woken up, Yahoo reporting on the death of a 26yr old with myocarditis directly correlated to the vaccine. At least it’s in the open after how many deaths?? Thousands with similar related issues! 47yr old male patient close friend, no pre-existing conditions, ticker working at 40% due to infarction attributed to vaccine. No other reasoning his docs have to come to that conclusion. It’s a mess and the drug companies need to hide it
Hmm … and why not take a moment to click on the button that gives you the RATE of infections, not just the absolute numbers?!?
Of course the absolute numbers will be higher among the vaccinated, because Ontario is a majority vaccinated province/jurisdiction.
The absolute numbers do not give you a good idea as to the relative risk of being vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.
What matters is the RATE of infection!
And the RATE graph looks very different, with the unvaccinated way on top!
This is the 3rd time I’ve tried to raise this very basic point on in response to Alex’s posts … and his continued failure to understand the difference is frankly baffling. It’s almost as if he does not want to understand.
Hey dummy. Notice the slopes of the two curves diverging on the absolute numbers? The rate of increase for the vaccinated is far higher than the rate of increase for the unvaccinated. I don't need Alex to click on that radio button. I can tell that the vaccines are doing jack shit to stop the spread just by eyeballing it. A sterilizing vaccine wouldn't produce a 60 degree angle case curve.
And if the case rate happens to be higher in the unvaccinated TODAY, it is clear from the slope of each curve that this will likely not persist into the future. But at the point where the vaccinated case rate equals the unvaccinated case rate, I'm sure you'll just forget about this graph and move onto some other piece of bullshit that supports your quixotic quest for universal MRNA gene therapy.
Now there’s intellectual rigour for you. “I don’t need to look at the facts! I just feel the 60 degree burn!” (What’s with people like you anyway?!? The exact same psychological markers as the climate alarmists … you WANT to feel the burn! And fuck any “good” news!)
We’re not talking about “sterilizing vaccine” here, dipshit!
The question is, given the data Alex has set out for us, would you want to be in the vaccinated or the unvaccinated group? Given ONLY that data, it’s clearly the former. That doesn’t mean other data does not or will not show otherwise. (E.g., in Denmark, the rates look different.)
Is that clear enough for you, dipshit!
Now go ahead and click on that radio button and take a closer look … or just keep spinning in the shit bucket!
How about you go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. And if we're not talking about a "sterilizing vaccine", then why the fuck does our government have a hard on for vaccine mandates? Looks like the virus is exploding through the Northeast United States right now. New York and New Jersey are both at almost 70% of adults fully vaccinated, and have the same number of cases as this time last year when 0% of adults were fully vaccinated.
Gee, its almost like we aren't talking about a "vaccine" at all you dumb fucking asshole. More like an experimental gene therapy that helps at-risk populations if they take it before they get sick. The CDC changed the definition of vaccine so that the MRNA poison would qualify. This allows them to label anyone who declines the experimental gene therapy an "anti-vaxxer" which has severe negative connotations. Pure bullshit. But I'm sure you eat it up with a fucking spoon.
Hey Joe … Stop pretending you understand elementary statistics, and/or data interpretation methodologies, and/or simple fucking logic. Instead, go check out your window again, for the Nth time today … the nice men in the nice white coats should arrive any minute now … and don’t you worry, the Thorazine drip is just for that nasty rash on the back of your neck …
what fear porn? This is reality. EVERYONE is going to get COVID. The vaccines don't stop you from getting it. They don't stop you from transmitting it.
Which makes the idea of vaccine mandates a complete fucking absurdity.
Fear porn would be looking at the cases and saying "make sure you take your vaccine and booster!"
If you're young and in good shape, Covid remains a complete and total fucking joke. No experimental gene therapy needed.
The rate of infection is high among the partilly-plus-fully vaccinated, according to the data. Much higher than promised with the deceptive 95 percent relative efficacy. The failure is in stopping the spread.
The second point is interesting because one would have to believe that the vaccinated would have been more protected from transmission than the unvaccinated. If it turns out that this protection is only slighty more, as per the 1 percent absolute efficacy, then, the point would remain standing against the promotion of the vax program as the solution that would be the only route to community immunity levels that would return society to normal -- stopping the spread of yet more restrictions.
It does indeed look like the rate of infection is rising across the board, i.e., that there is a failure in stopping the spread. Assuming a good chunk of these infections are Omicron, it would be reasonable to conclude that the vaccinations are quickly losing effectiveness, again, presumably, especially as against Omicron. (Denmark has broken down infections by variant, and their data appears to confirm this … See el gato malo’s post re Denmark.)
Given this, the next logical step would be to look at the seriousness of infection/illness, and whether vaccines might offer any protection there. The Ontario data shows that, as of Dec. 20th, in a province where 12+ year olds are 88% are fully vaccinated and 3% are partially vaccinated (leaving only 9% unvaccinated), there are 75 unvaccinated cases in ICU (vs. 33 fully vaccinated) and 121 unvaccinated hospitalized (vs. 88 fully vaccinated). So, although only 9% of the population that remains unvaccinated, that population constitutes a much larger proportion of the ICU and hospitalization cases. In other words, as of Dec. 20th, the RATE of serious infection among the unvaccinated is very much higher.
All this could change of course, in favour of the unvaccinated … but given that Omicron shows low virulence overall, that doesn’t seem likely.
You are focussing on the cases vs hospitalization ratio which depends very much on testing both in general population and on admission to hospital or upon hospital visit. The testing today is asymmetric between vaxed and unvaxed so the data will be skewed going forward. However, given that the dominant virus is DELTA, as we are told, and that the emerging and more transmissable but less virulent emerging version is OMICRON, again as we are told, any drop in the hospitalization among the vaxed and unvaxed alike would likely not be attributable to the shots but rather to the decrease in the power of the new version to cause severe symptoms and hospitalizations or emerge visits. However, if the new version or versions continue to infect and to hospitalize the vaxed, its efficacy will have been proven a failure on all points. On the other hand, infection of the unvaxed, when treated early, prevents hospitalization and in this way prevents deaths at an astonishingly protective pace. That would be so for the unvaxed but not sure it would be so for the vaxed and boostered. We might consider the unvaxed to be dry timber, as they say, but as the virus becomes more and more transmissable, exposure for the unvaxed will lead to immunity; not so sure that is so for the vaxed and that would prolong the problems for the now largest segment of the population. Again, that would mean horrible failure on a huge scale.
Everybody, even us here, is overly fixated on "cases." Even before I read Alex's book, I was aware of many of the issues that make "cases," or even alleged "positive tests" a doubtful claim, at best! There are simply so many flaws in the testing methodologies. Just what is considered a "positive"? The cycle rate issue alone should throw out nearly all testing data! The problem isn't simply comparing apples and oranges, it's more like an entire produce section of the grocery store...
The statistics are bullshit. They have been from the beginning and I've seen no reason to trust them now. Show me consistent use of an unchanging metric in a large area over a long time period, and then we can talk about positive tests.
Ok, I’ve heard this point made before: that there’s an asymmetry between the testing of the vaxxed and unvaxed … but I’m not sure I understand how that affects hospitalizations, let alone ICU hospitalization. That is, I don’t see how that could skew the ICU/hospitalization count.
Are you saying that the unvaxxed are in some way ending up in the ICUs because they’re being tested more often? How would that work? I would have thought that whether or not you end up in an ICU depends on the severity of your symptoms, not whether or not you happened to be caught in the infected count (because, as you say, your group is being tested more often). Over-testing of the unvaxxed - if not corrected or otherwise accounted for - may well lead to the false impression that the rate of infection (the case rate) is higher among that group. But I don’t see how it would cause over-representation among ICU (or hospitalization) cases. … Unless you’re suggesting that your presence in the ICU is not in any way correlated with Covid status; or, put differently, that the unvaxxed are ending up in ICUs for various other reasons, but then getting caught in the ICU-with-Covid count (and NOT ICU-due-to-Covid count) just because they’re being tested more rigorously than other people, like the fully vaxxed, who also end up in ICUs. That could be the case … it’s possible, but it seems rather convoluted/improbable.
About your suggestion that the vaxxed may end up with no - as in ZERO - immunity in the long run: that is indeed a scary thought. I assume you’re referring to the OAS problem. From what I’ve read about this, even the people who place a lot of emphasis on OAS are not saying that there’s any sort of certainty about this outcome. It’s a possibility - a scary possibility - but I have yet to see a clearcut explanation as to why/how exactly it is something that is very likely. (From my admittedly limited understanding/research on this, OAS is a highly complex issue and its studied effects are ambiguous.)
As for the failure to treat early - regardless of vax status - I agree … it looks like there’s been a colossal systematic failure here, which probably reflects some sort of weird blinkered thinking and bias against treatment/therapeutics among the medical establishment (not necessarily among doctors working on the ground) … and it probably reflects American political tribalism. … I’d be curious to learn more about how extensively early treatment was applied in other countries, and how effective it has been, etc.
Yes, I do think that the emergency units are not screening based on vax status. And, so yeap, "the unvaxxed are ending up in ICUs for various other reasons, but then getting caught in the ICU-with-Covid count (and NOT ICU-due-to-Covid count) just because they’re being tested more rigorously than other people".
If the vaxed are not tested, or not tested as consistently, or tested with different assays -- especially given differences in thresholds are a very clear possibility, then, this would be a very simple explanation for the mixed signals in the trend lines - given that probably as many people are now vaxed as vax-free.
If we go by the official estimates, then, the vax-free comprise a small minority but still quite a large group. And if we combine the partially and full vaxed as a single group, within the majority, then, the ratios do look like they are trending the wrong way.
I do not think that the early treatments will be as effective with the vaxed as these are with the vax-free. So we will see differences within the vax-free group across the country, based on availability of early treatments; but less so with the vaxed, in my estimation.
As we go along the data gathering has continued to suffer and has become more and more muddled and will eventually destroy the credibility of the national trends and we will be left with patchwork analysis of state-by-state and even county-by-county trends. In my skeptical view, this weakness in gathering data has been encouraged rather than due to mere happenstance.
It is going to be difficult to reach substantive conclusions based on credible evidence, one way or the other, and THAT is going to truly cripple all sound decision making. IT WILL LEAVE USE IN THE HANDS OF EXPERT OPINION - especially govt/PHARM opinion that has gotten much wrong these past couple of years.
"Yes, I do think that the emergency units are not screening based on vax status. And, so yeap,..."
I don’t have time to elaborate now, but for a number of reasons this just doesn’t make sense. Do you have any concrete evidence this is happening? At a systemic level? (And by what means? Has someone issued a directive or something like that?) … And then: do you have evidence/reason to believe this happening in Ontario or any other Canadian or other non-US jurisdictions? … Because: from what I’ve seen, the differences in the rates of illness, and hospitalization etc. as between vaxxed and non-vaxxed are consistent across many different jurisdictions, including as different as Chile and Switzerland, etc. So you must think they’re doing this in all these different places? But if so, then again: how? And why? … It just makes no sense, sorry.
Plus the testing is highly unreliable anyway. The use of symptoms is not very reliable given the lack of uniqueness in this or that symptom or set of symptoms associated with C19, regardless of version. The best measure remains excess mortality, sadly enough.
I hope that this wave of "super rare, breakthrough" cases wakes people up. You cannot vaccinate and boost your way out of a pandemic from a rapidly mutating virus. Team Reality has known this all along and it is well past due for the Believers to wake up, acknowledge that fact and apologize to everyone they looked down on, or called plague rats, or wished delayed hospital treatment or even death upon. Like Dr. Chris Martenson says- I will welcome them back with open arms.
I've seen several reports now that appear to indicate that vaccinated people are getting infected and seriously ill at higher rates than the unvaccinated in many places. Perhaps this is due to Omicron. We really have no idea yet how widespread Omicron is. It could very well be dominant at this point and there just has not been enough sequencing to verify that. However, it seems more likely that these are still delta infections. Either way, how would we explain this?
Here's a thought occurred to me when I read this post today. It does not seem likely to me that there is something about Omicron that specifically targets the vaccinated. I suppose if it was engineered by a white hat biohacker as some people, including myself, have fantasized about, that it could've been designed with this in mind. I think this gives too much credit to the ability of virologists to manipulate DNA exactly to certain desired outcomes.
What I think is more likely is that we have far exceeded herd immunity due to naturally acquired immunity at this point. According to everything I've learned about naturally acquired immunity, those who have it would barely get a noticeable cold if exposed to a different strain of Covid. While, as Dr. Peter McCullough has frequently emphasized, those who have vaccine immunity have a very narrow immunity. With this in mind, it would make perfect sense that a new strain that evaded the vaccine would largely only target the vaccinated because such a significant percentage of the unvaccinated are now naturally immune.
Biden/Pixar movie villain: “We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated – for themselves, their families and the hospitals they'll soon overwhelm," he added. "But there's good news: If you're vaccinated, and you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death." 🥸
In Ontario now, they have put mobile vaccination buses all over the place to push the 3rd shot into everyone. It's as if they don't even know their own data. Somehow the 3rd has a magic ingredient that wasn't in the first 2, even though they are exactly the same.
They are heading towards a full lockdown by next week, and the salvo will be "if 70% get the booster, then we can ease it off", like we haven't heard that before.
I'm from Toronto Ontario - dirty secret about numbers:
->The unvaxed -1/2 are KIDS (CBC report pushing for kids vax - moronic...)
->The Vax by the flip side are much more likely to be adults, who are at risk
Many Kids are not eligible for the vax, and uptake for kids lags Adults.. Also they will never be hospitalized - Canada has ZERO healthy kids die of COVID.
The numbers are being skewed. In Canada - many Conservative Premiers want to loosen up - but the Health Bureaucracy rats them out to the media with some "grandma will die" leaked story and they back down.
I took the 1st shot of Moderna - I'm in great shape - and it hurt like hell and I had a fever. And everyone says the second jab is the bad one. And then all the heart inflammations stories started coming out. I decided to track the data - the vax is useless - in the end decided to skip the second jab.
That is number of cases and not cases per 100,000. The vaccination rate in Ontario is very high, so that chart is pretty much meaningless. In fact, if you go to cases per 100,000, the chart flips. Having said that, cases are pretty much meaningless. Since the Western world is about to lock down and force Nazi era experimental medications on people because of the Omicron variant, how many people have died from that variant? Zero. How many people are hospitalized is also a meaningless number. Think about it, people are afraid of their own shadows nowadays. So you test positive for COVID, the first thing you do is run to the hospital. Where they gladly admit you despite having zero symptoms.
Again, no chart for the naturally immune. What are they hiding?
monoclonal antibodies--anyone know how easy/hard it is to get it in New York State and how?
Just in case, asking for my Dad. All this BS and fully vaccinated family getting sick has him worried. I'd like to be able to tell him that it is gettable.
I have him on vitamin D of course.
I hope Alex doesn't mind this but it is New York and I don't know where to turn. I don't want him going to the hospital and getting vented and Remdesivired if he gets sick.
Link here. Sort by state. Shows facilities that requested monoclonals. Don't know how many internal organs you have to donate to actually get the treatment. (attempt at snide humor.) Easier to get the treatment in NY if you're over 65 I have heard. Maybe NY is over the quota for killing off seniors for the time being (2nd attempt.) Signed, Stuck in NY.
"Cases from Sunday Dec 19th announced today, 3784cases, 2781 fully vaccinated cases, 746 unvaccinated cases of which 275 are in the 12 year old and older age groups, and 471 are under 12 years of age, 119 partial vaccinated cases and 138 unknown cases.
When comparing the 2781 fully vaccinated cases that we know are in the 12 years and older age bracket with the 275 unvaccinated cases in that same age brackets, the fully vaccinated account for 91% of the cases.
This is the highest percentage to date of fully vaccinated cases in the 12 year old and up and is the third straight day at 90% or over. Over the last tree weeks these fully vaccinated cases have risen from under 60% to 90%."
So ratio of fully vaxxed cases to unvaxxed if you exclude the kids, is 10:1
Seem to recall reading that around 11.78m Ontarians are fully jabbed out of a population of approx 14m. so over 80%. 2781 jabbed/3784 = 74% so that is reasonably close to the 80% figure. 746/3784 = 19.7% so again close to the overall ratio. The kids probably account for the rest
It certainly appears to me based on my observations that the virus is now preferentially infecting vaccinated people. Of course, our most recent examples are 2 of the most prominent Senators. They were both reportedly fully vaccinated AND boosted.
So, this is what the molecular science says, given the mutations. eugyppius has an article reporting on the Occum's Razor theory of Omicron origin. Yep, built in the lab. Why... several reasons. Want to guess?
None of us who were aware since the beginning sees these outcomes surprising. There has never been an successful outcome with corona injections and why for past 20 years they ended. Hearing the puppet is being told to address the nation on Tues regarding omiCON and plan going forward. Do not be surprised if he now is told to shift narrative to the whu-flu becoming more "endemic in nature" to cover all the tracks they knew they had to cover as well as knowing the 22 election year approaches. The puppet knows his poll #'s are the worst of any President after first 11 months in WH
In the U.S. there have been very few confirmed cases of Omicron, so all the NFL players and other sports players and everyone else tested positive for Covid must be the Delta, so why is all the reporting about how Omicron is causing an increase in cases. The vaccinated must be getting Delta rapidly now.
and yet, the lies, the blatant hate, the soulless hypocrisy, the sith-like lust for power, it all goes on unabated. Biden tells us this weekend be prepared to die and have a brutal winter.
F Joe Thanos Biden, F the people who cower onward, and F those who tell us to suck it up until next November. in other words, F everyone!!!
It's fun looking at this data. Anecdotally, I know many people who now have Covid. And, anecdotally again 100% of them are double vaxxed and boosted. So kind of interesting to look at data and then do the "gut check".
Be sure to check out the more-detailed data chart about hospitalizations in ICU -- the total numbers DO NOT indicate that the majority of ICU beds are being filled by Covid patients -- it's the opposite! The VAST MAJORITY of ICU beds are filled by non-Covid patients.
But with "an abundance of caution" will have decried no Christmas for the unvaccinated. And the vaccinated should double mask and stay home too and stay away from the triple vaccinated.
Omicron is a blessing in disguise. It's going to infect everyone no matter what, but this highly contagious non-lethal form of covid will actually build everyone's immune systems and provide stronger herd immunity for the public. Aaand the government is trying to stop it.
You're absolutely right. And that's exactly what I've been sick with over the past 5 days. And I'm getting better. My immune system took care of it.
Now can you imagine what would happen to me if I went and got tested for covid? They'd lock me in the house for 14 days over the Christmas holiday. Instead, I stayed home with my symptoms so I didn't get others sick. I know when it's ok to go back out, when I'm not symptomatic anymore. No sneezing, coughing, runny nose. I'm good to go. I'm responsible enough to do what I should do. I don't need the government to help me with that. Oh and I even consulted my doctor over the phone, because she's good that way. We don't need the damn government for any of this. And the last thing I want to do is add to that sham case count.
Pandemic of the Vaccinated!
Pandemic of the Unboosted 😂😂
The boosted are getting it, too. Just ask Spartacus and Pocahantas.
Pandemic of the vaxxed and boosted!
And yet Biden is about to give a speech tripling down on his "dark winter of sickness and death for the unvaccinated". He is quite literally flying the plane straight into the ground. Then urinating on it. Then setting it on fire again.
Trump's doing his part to further Biden's agenda by announcing that he just got the booster.
Trump is pretty much finishing off his hopes of a '24 candidacy by sticking like glue to "his vaccines". The moment it becomes inescapable that they are unsafe and ineffective the entire pharma/media establishment is going to turn and blame him for that.
He should just retire. Leave the way open for DeSantis.
That would be the only good news about this mess. Trump should ride off into the sunset.
Agreed … He was owning “Operation Warp Failure “ , if he had big ones he’d come out and say it’s a failure.
Lose all respect if he got a jab/booster after contracting it and getting monoclonal treatment.
DeSantis.
Yeah it is dumb for him to get a booster, let alone a vaccine at all as he recovered from the 'rona. However, just like everyone else, his doctor apparently recommended it and it is his choice. He is opposed to mandates. That is the problem, mandates.
Back when the vaccines first came out. They saved a lot of at risk people. The fact that the vaccines didn't last is a different problem. I still think operation warp speed was a success. He also knew we needed therapeutics much of which was poo-pooed by the establishment.
Trump's an Idiot...Period.
No he's not. We aren't leftists. We can accept that people can be good in some areas and terrible in others.
Trump is a very trusting person. It's why he continuously chose bureaucrats who were desperate to betray him. It's also why he did nothing to shop the mass censorship by social media of all of his allies. Facebook and Twitter told him they wouldn't abuse their powers and they wouldn't turn around and censor him.
I'll take the mean tweets and inartful language over any of the Democrats any time. You must like the direction of the country. How odd.
Spoken like a tru no nothin
I'm surprised you didn't call him a poopyhead, Spanky.
Maybe he got the booster, maybe he didn't. Who knows? He was probably pressured - or forced - to make that statement.
So we agree he's conning somebody.
Awwww. No 🤦♀️
Bad things happen when you "triple dog dare" nobody likes being stuck on a pole
Well, yes and no. Centuries ago it was just the severed head impaled on a pike. By then, the victim would not feel a thing. 😈
Will it be a word soup...with a massive mix of threats and tell the legal citizens they are stupid? The news today is full of could be's and may be's. 73% of the country may be infected with Omicron variant and the Midwest may be as high as 90% infected! And the citizens have to take urgent action to stop hospitalations and deaths connected to the virus!
Are they not adding deaths all the time that have no relationship to the virus? And a huge push for massive testing! Why? The tests can't tell the difference between flu or Covid, right? So they are going to replace it with a new test? And why can we not have inexpensive medication (think OTC) at home if we think that a runny nose and low fever cold might be covid. Why shod people run out and get tested for a cold? I do not understand this absurdity and loss of common sense. And let's continue letting illegals & terrorists stream across the southern border and transport them across the country to states they need to keep or turn permanent blue (super spreaders). "C"mon man!"
I think they have all jumped off the cliff...walked back up the hill..and jumped again.
I'm so worried he'll do something stupid like lockdowns. We have a couple of gigs and need them.
I'm worried that Biden will forced by his handlers to declare martial law. If that happens, we'll have no human or civil rights at all. Game over.
Biden is nothing but a senile, pathetic, disgusting puppet. But the powers that created this gain-of-function-enhanced coronavirus and the bioweapon "vaccines" are satanic. Don't confuse the two.
If his handlers actually try that, I'm not sure the military will go along with enforcing it. Not very many state and local police forces will be on board, either. Everyone seems pretty 'covided out'.
he's always been incompetent, dishonest and corrupt (and handsy), I don't feel sorry for him. not at all...
Trump declared an National Emergency which sets the stage for Marshall Law.
You've done your home work!
I know that sounds selfish but I'm so sick of this shit over a virus that shouldn't exist and shouldn't have locked down our world.
Its what happens with the Faucis and the Gates having power and the money to play God with the rest of us. There wil always be a Josef Mengele out there.
Wow, that describes Biden to a tee!
And as for boosters…even if they did work against Omicron, which I think is doubtful, ANY vaccine depresses your immune system for a few weeks—the reason they ask if you feel well when you get any vaccine. I think that heading into any viral surge, or a major family holiday, is probably the worst time to want to depress your immune system, contrary to all the official calls to “get boosted now!”
So the booster is going to depress the immune system also? Won't that lead to higher infection risk? Also the booster is not a "booster" as in say tetanus - it's another dose of the same medicine which was designed for the original Alpha variant so what's that going to do?
Doesn't each variant diminish the potency of the virus? So if you contract the Omicron after taking the booster, wouldn't your natural immunity also automatically kick-in? Or, are you saying the booster would depress that natural process?
It is a tough decision for an 80 year old, especially one in excellent health....at this age, when friends and family members are dropping like flies, one does not suddenly become fatalistic. But, I'm not spending my last few years hiding behind a mask, afraid to entertain. Nope, we are having our annual Christmas Eve party, Biden be damned!
Which is to say - get yourself some first line therapeutics (see FLCCC and Zelenko protocols). Have ivermectin or hydroxy prescribed online if your doctor won't do it. And then, GET OUT AND ENJOY YOUR LIFE!!!
No, sadly, the booster stifles your innate immune system. (same as the 1st two doses). It simply programs your body to respond with only one particular antibody that was designed to target the spike protein from the original virus. The spike has changed since then, so the antibody is useless. The innate immune system just doesn't kick in, which is exactly how the vx is meant to work.
Have a fantastic time too!
Exactly.
Bingo. Makes no scientific sense.
Logic says you are correct. Are you available to advise the President
Don'ttell Donald Trump. He just announced he got boosted. So, everyone should just relax and go get the shot like good little guru followers.
Probably saline. Someone please prove that ANY politician ANYWHERE has got the real shot(s).
Add Brian May of Queen to the list. He finally ventured out after two years to have lunch with friends. They made sure everyone tested negative before the lunch but virus gonna virus. He said he thought he was in a "safe bubble" but he now has C19 and he's vaccinated and boosted..
These fuckin navel gazers who make all these demands before they will socialize deserve everything they get. Stay home already you ridiculous ninnies.
Post of the day right here!
Ha ha! Love his Baroque haircut and guitar playing but he turns out to be a Leftist turd. "Climate change will kill all! Don't use fossil fuels and stay in your houses. "
What about Eric Clapton and Van Morrison? What is their current vaxx status? I'd be shocked if Clapton came out and said he'd had the booster.
From my understanding Slow Hand got his first shot and experienced weeks of pain in his extremities. He was worried he would never play again. He came out with a short video criticizing mandates. I seriously doubt if he received any more experimental mRNA gene therapy
Clapton was so sick and angry after his first vaccine, I sincerely doubt he ever got another. I didn't know Van Morrison had issues too.
really.
Yup…
Aka the booster needs a booster. And another round of boosters - on the house!
And now Jim Cramer CNBC too. He wants the gov't to forcibly vax all us dirty unvaxxed. https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnbc-jim-cramer-doubles-down-belief-government-right-force-citizens-obey-vax-mandate.
Covid couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Hard to say what their angle is. They may have it OR they are doing this in order to shut our country down.
They really arent sick just sniffles for publicity
hahahaha!
And Cramer.
Cramer is an idiot. He doesn't even know much about the market (said Bear, Stern's wouldn't fail two days before it did), so why would anyone believe him about Covid.
Corey Booker actually called himself "Spartacus" when trying to boost his relevancy during the Kavanaugh hearings., trying to prove how "brave" he was to release documents that he claimed were not allowed to be released, but, in fact, had already been released. Ben Shapiro had hilarious set of tweets about it.
Corey Booker is still on a quest to be relevant. At something🙄
I think he's actually pretty smart, just opportunistic and dishonest, which is actually worse than being a well-intentioned, low IQ person.
But isn't he some sort of genius Rhodes Scholar?
Cory Booker
Oh that was amazing when he said that
Actually, we do know it likely would have been mild for them given the data we have. It's strange to give the vaccine credit when it's not warranted. It's a religion.
So true. When my double-vaxxed parents came down with Delta last summer and were sick in bed for 2 weeks, my older sister (an MD), assured me that they only survived because they'd been vaxxed. I countered with, "or they were much sicker than they would've been without it." Of course, we have no way of knowing. It's a study of two, and the important studies to actually test these things with large groups double-blinded will NEVER be done, so the True Believers will keep on believing...
You’re comment is spot on! I read a few headlines today about fully vaxxed and boosted persons that have tested positive and the articles say exactly what you stated…”thankfully they had the booster or it would have been much worse”. How can anyone say that? No one knows how mild or severe it would have been. This is yet another point that drives me crazy.
Mass formation. Google it.
I don't fully agree. I just finished Alex's book. One of its messages should be is that the powers that be, especially the media but also government apparatchiks who should have known better, have been incompetent at best, or deliberately lying and deceitful at worst, from the beginning. Alex amply documents statement after statement from them that was probably known to be at best a half-truth, at worst a total lie, even at the time it was made. As you put it: "There is a lot being stated as fact that has no basis in factual evidence." That's a rather serious problem, when it occurs repeatedly in official channels and especially coming from authorities (e.g. scientists who presumably have the same, or better evidence than we have access to), wouldn't you think?
You make such great points.
Wasn't Spartacus also someone writing on Substack in the early stages of this gong show?
Cory Booker. Never heard him called that
https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/how-cory-bookers-spartacus-moment-fizzled-out/
Pandemic of the Blocked ,Effective , Early Treatments. No Need for the "ClotShots"
Snopes: TRUE!
We need weekly boosts to be "fully vaccinated". Also, my boosters don't work unless you get them too.
OBEY
Jeopardy question right there. Lol. Like you will die if I dont use my seatbelt🤣
Perhaps a bit off topic, but did you know that if you, as a sober driver, through no fault of your own, hit and kill a pedestrian who was drunk, it is still considered an "alcohol-related vehicle fatality" for government statistics? Although I'm sure these are a bare chemical trace of total alcohol related deaths, it's still a curious example of record-keeping. Sort of like blaming the tree when you plow into it, isn't it?
No, YOU will die if I don't use MY seatbelt! Ha ha h! <evil laugh>
I'm very confused by this chart. I just went to the Ontario web site and the graph there looks nothing like the one here. What am I missing?
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
Alex’s graph is number of cases and yours is rate per 100,000. I commented along these lines earlier. Rate seems a more honest measure than raw number, since there are simply more vaxxed people in Ontario than unvaxxed.
The government isn't going to make it easy.
"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" (correcting the typo in this statement will save 2 characters in Twitter messaging).
Well said!!
Using the same dataset Alex linked to above, you can click the "per 100,000" button to get the rates. Not sure if we can say for certain yet that the virus preferentially targets vaccinated people - Rate per 100,000 still shows unvaxed higher than vaxed. 24.3 per 100,000 unvaxed vs. 17.2 per 100,000 for fully vaxed. So 1.4 unvaxed cases for every 1 vaxed case.
However, they're converging.
Back in September, per the same data set, the unvaxed/vaxed ratio was 6!
At the end of November it was 4!
Now, it's 1.4.
Certainly we can say the vaccine protection has eroded to the point of near parity with unvaccinated. We should watch to see if we hit negative efficacy - where rate per 100,000 of fully vaxed is higher than unvaxed. THAT is the true inflection point.
Ontario also has a very high vaccination rate across the entire population. They are probably reaching a point where the unvaccinated are less susceptible due to prior immunity due to exposure.
Some argue the vax impairs natural immunity response going forward. It will be very interesting to follow the data on reinfection for the vaxxed then infected, infected then vaxxed, vs. natural immunity no vax.
If only we had a public health system that wants to collect and share this data.
That would require honest hospital personnel.
And honest public health spokespeople, honest government bureaucrats, honest politicians, honest scientists, etc. Probably too much to hope for.
One of the problems in this is hospital administrators dependent on government money.
Yes and means being brave and telling the truth no matter what, because you cannot be a slave to two masters
It does. We have data on this-- there are SO many books that have done research on the health between unvaccinated and vaccinated-- focusing on children. (check out Vaccine Coalition Canada, Childrens Health Defense)
That info exists but I can't find it now. The vaxxed then infected were more likely to be infected then the infected then vaxxed. If I remember correctly, it was a pretty small sample size with some pretty large confidence intervals that made it inconclusive. I couldn't find the original post, but I think it was related to this study from Denmark https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/15/danish-study-confirms-that-natural-immunity-protects-better-against-infection-than-the-vaccines/.
The data seems clear that natural infection is much better protection than getting vaxxed. Calling vaxxed infections breakthroughs is ridiculous. For claimed breakthroughs on natural immunity, I would question the PCR threshold on the supposed two infections.
The data I want to learn about is reinfection for the vaxxed. I am guessing unlikely since we probably would have seen it in heavily vaxxed old age homes.
The coach of the NFL New Orleans Saints was diagnosed with Covid in March 2020. Despite my efforts, I was unable to determine if he was a "case" or had symptomatic Covid. But he tested positive last week (the NFL stupidly was testing asymptomatic vaccinated). If he had actual Covid in 2020 (not just a positive test), then was vaccinated, and then tests positive, which conclusion is most likely: (1) the tests are useless, (2) vaccination after previous infection destroys natural immunity, (3) the vaccines fail to protect against infections, or (4) all of the above.
Not seems clear--is clear.
My son in law got a positive test 9 months after the whole family got it. He was sick for 2 days tops then fine. Daughter and kids never got a positive test. My daughter had to stay out of work for 14 days as a close contact. I questioned PCR cycles myself. But they don't tell you what it was.
My SIL got it from a vexed boosted person. So my personal evidence of this being a pandemic of the vaccinated
A VA long-term care facility near me is having significant ‘break through’ infections. Visitors not allowed so staff is pinned as the source.
PCR thresholds were changed. But there was also a period in 2020 where some locations weren't even testing to count a case. The assumption was if you exhibited symptoms in a high spread area, you were counted as a case. I think this was mainly during the initial infection spike of 2020.
I'm not sure what was going on when the flu magically disappeared during the next winter spike. I have heard some say the tests confuse covid and flu, which seems odd.
That kind of info is all over the place-- adding to what I suggested in an earlier post check also the Weston Price Foundation. Del Bigtrees site etc.-- TONS Of stuff (if you use duck Duck Go 😊)
If only !
Problem being all the charts and numbers being put out are from the very same entities that have lied to us from the beginning. You trust a chart or numbers from any of them to be factual? Not me. Figures lie and liars figure🤔 if someone gets A vax then gets the very virus they were vaxxed against--thats an Epic Fail in my book
This is one of the scenarios we have to look out for -- the unvaxxed will get sick once, the vaxxed keep catching Covid due to OAS.
I'm terribly worried about this. It's why my kids will never get vaxed.
Great move, they will be the ones left with a brain and energy to help the rest of the sorry lot to get on with their lives.
Or more likely, the unvaxxed dont get sick because they have strong innate and adaptive immune system. Every jab your immune system weakens. Its like wiring a lamp wrong-- it will work but not as well.
very cool way of putting it
That's the primary reason I went for the J&J option. A single, less immunogenic shot was less likely to trigger OAS, ADS, or autoimmune issues. It's also why the boosters are stupid even if you can make a case for the original vaccination being beneficial.
Well this is nice to hear because this is exactly what I did. I plan to be on a pro-autophagy diet for about 5 years anyway. I just had a nasty cold but cleared it quickly so I seem to not have damaged the native plumbing
Alex Berenson had a post suggesting the J&J as the least likely to cause harm. Also, I used to work for J&J. While the company isn't as altruistic as it likes to pretend internally, it isn't as actively malicious as Pfizer.
So just a second level Bond villain type behaviour?
I know a 42-year-old woman who had a brain hemorrhage after the J and J. She will never be well again.
Yeah but new CEO, schooled in China.
You're oversimplifying. So am I. 🤓 OAS can happen with natural immunity, too. The main indictments against the mRNA injections are: they induce production of only one type of antibody, against "Classic Wuhan" original virus, presumably long gone from the wild. They produce a huge burst of antibodies that quickly fades (few months), hence the urging for boosters after just few months*; also the unproven and increasingly dubious long-term safety of the jab. Natural infection produces a broader immune response, the body doesn't go ape shit producing just the one type of antibody. In general, the natural immunity should be many times better as it will be more "up to date" (more recent viruses), multiple immune responses, not just one, and expected to better respond to similar future viruses.
*Absent other immune system issues, an apparent problem with repeated mRNA doses is that with repeated applications, the immune system mounts a weaker response. This is claimed to have been a problem with the early mRNA research; it was thought that a better application would be for "vaccines." So perhaps it should be no surprise that the immunity fades quickly, and thus the need for boosters. Well if the fade issue holds, then each additional booster will produce a flaccid response, yet one more problem for the vaxx cheerleaders.
Alex mentions this issue in his book, but apparently doesn't provide a cite for the source(s).
Prof Byram Bridle (find him on Rumble) a Canadian virologist banned from his own lab at the University of Guelph for refusing the vaccine has said that he has information from many sources that are seeing an exponential rise in soft tissue cancers in recent months. This is in line with Dr Ryan Cole who has said the same. Byram is one of the bravest scientists in North America and has had death threats and all sorts of intimidation thrown at him. His original rejection of the vaxxes came back in May when he said "we made a big mistake with the spike protein manufacture, that it is actually toxic". He had access to Pfizer data from trials in Japan that showed the biodistribution of the vaccine went all through the body - it did not stay in the shoulder muscle.
This creates a curious situation. Giving them the benefit of doubt, the Gov is pushing vaccines/boosters because they are therapeutic and thus reduce the severity of infection. If, however, the vaccines are NOT immunizing, then by pushing vaccines they are postponing herd immunity. This appears to be case given that we are 2 years into this. What we really need is a thorough study of breakthrough cases to see if these folks have lasting immunity comparable to those infected prior to vaccination.
I'd love to know on what basis anyone can assert that the gene therapy "vaccines" reduce hospitalizations. They are not sterilizing as you said. It's like saying that because I wore two tee shirts on a cold day I didn't get as sick as I might have if I only wore one. How would you know what didn't happen? It's entirely subjective.
🛎 🛎 🛎 ding ding ding !!!
Sorry why are you giving them a benefit of a doubt at this point? Didn't a lot of Americans do that before they were hoodwinked into going into Iraq-- how long does it take to see these "authoriites" for what they are criminal organizations.
Only a true Canuck would start a sentence with "Sorry". :))
but they won't
Setting Ontario aside for a minute, take a look at Ireland where apparently they have vaxxed over 90% of the population and are now in a partial lockdown. The vaccines are designed to fail. This is not about a virus or a vaccine.
How furious must these people be…buying into and being vaxxed
…then still succumbing to the ‘ro and then lockdowns, to boot !
Another problem comparing to a small group (only 14% unvaxxed) is small group bias (term made up by me). For example, in a group of only 2, if 1 gets sick, that's a 50% rate but you can't extrapolate that to a larger group.
There is a very real problem with comparing unvaxxed to vaxxed populations with no controls. These groups can look very different. For instance, the unvaxxed population likely has a few people who are very committed to natural, healthy lifestyles but also some who are already very sick with other ailments that make it inadvisable to get the vaccine.
Quite the opposite can happen too. Alex cites in his book this possibility. Especially in the very highly vaxxed nations, it was usually the most at-risk (the elderly) who received the vaxx. Since the virus does its worst on the most frail and usually the very old, that of necessity means that many of the "unvaccinated" the press so disdainfully reports as being in hospital or dead were precisely the people who COULDN'T BE VAXXED because they were too frail already! The media lie about damned near everything. In the case of bemoaning all the ill or dying unvaxxed, then, they are basically blaming the victim, people who simply could not be vaxxed.
🎯🎯🎯
Yes, without knowing the underlying rate of infection in both populations, this is a serious confounding variable.
I also know that the campaign has pushed hard to get people to take the vaccine even if they had covid. We'd need to know if the prior infected are disproportionately among the unvaccinated. I'd say that it's likely to skew in the direction of the unvaccinated, but by how much is hard to say.
We will never get that info. VAR's are being covered up and passed off as "coincidence" and so will the vaxx failures. And the labs in Ontario still run the CT above 35. Most of the "cases" are no worse than a normal cold or mild flu. People are just crazy here, getting tested. I know at least 50 people who have been tested positive in the last 2 weeks and I was sicker than all of them with what was no more than a normal heavy cold. I'm leaning heavily towards the "Unbekoming" view point that this is all a massive Ponzi scheme to make money for Big Pharma.
Also in Ontario. I guess because I am in the medical profession that I gasped at your last sentence. I am like REALLY you just figured that out now?
I've thought that for some time but I kept trying to take off my tinfoil hat, then events just seemed to continue to confirm my original thinking. Then I listened to Sukharit Bakdhi who now says the vaxxes were designed to fail. Then I read that Trudeau's family trust is heavily invested in Acuitas who make the LNP's. Then I read that the Shermans were murdered because they knew this was coming and had stockpiled HCQ for the Canadian government then threatened to blow the whistle that the virus was actually developed in the Winnipeg lab. How far down the rabbit hole do we go?
I venture to say the rabbit hole has turned into a rat tunnel
Sorry? what? Where are you getting that Ontario has a "very high vaccination rate across the entire population"? Love to see your sources. What do you mean where the unvaccinated are less susceptible " due to prior immunity due to exposure". Do you mean a natural immunity reaction. The one that has kicked in every year of that persons life for whatever virus comes their way. ?
Based on the linked data, the unvaccinated over 5 years of age is only 14%. That is a very high vaccination rate and skews the results as the unvaccinated aren't going to be generally representative of the population. They are also likely to be people who have either been infected or trust their immune systems. So yes, I mean people with good immune systems.
Are they putting their thumb on the scales with higher PCR threshold for the unvaxxed? So many games that these people play with the stats.
Be careful what you define as "unvaxxed". Ontario doesn't count you as vaxxed until 14 days after the 2nd shot. So anyone up to and including day 14 is classified as unvaxxed. Also Trudeau's "one shot summer" is now coming into play. Majority of vaxxed did not get their second shot until the Sept/Oct period. They waited up to 12 weeks after the first shot. Then he said it was a good idea (based on nothing) to mix and match. This PM used to be drama teacher so he knows as much as a chipmunk about epidemiology. Anyway - say October + 4 months = February based on what happened in Ireland in terms of waning efficacy. Hence the massive push for 3rd and even 4th shots now. Omicron is a diversionary tactic to explain away the useless vaccines.
The mix and match recommendations with no data should be one of the highlights of the mass psychosis. Zero actual science.
Great point too on people with one shot potentially excluded from breakthrough cases. More juking the stats by design.
Also our PM has a 17% stake in a UofBC developed Pharma company that was involved in the creation of the nano-lipid protein cover which permits the mRNA to enter the blood system easily and then of course spread ALL through the body including permeating the blood brain barrier. A big no no in medicine.
Notice that the case counts give you a choice of current or 7 day rolling average, the surge has happened entirely in the last week, but the rate display only gives you a 7 day average - it's lagged and we will have to wait a week to see the rate display catch up.
Nice catch. If you look at the daily data for 12/20, the unvaxed case rate per 100,000 is 26.29 and the vaxed is 24.6. Single dose is 20.31 and has been trending lower than two dose for days.
It should be noted that these all seem like too low of numbers of infections to really get any information and they haven't updated the data per age group which is important to know. All it would take is spread in a long term care facility to really screw up the numbers.
Yeah good point.
The per-100,000 rate is a seven-day average, though, and the number of vaccinated cases has shot up only in the past few days.
If you compare the over 12 age group only then the vaxxed are more likely to get infected than the unvaxxed.
Can you age limit this data set? You're quite possibly right (previous infection counfounder still granted, though).
Rate per 100k may be the best metric that we have but a very flawed metric. As someone gives as an example: in a population of 10 (7 vaxxed/ 3 unvaxxed) with 3 vaxxed and 3 unvaxxed cases, the rates would be 42% & 100% which would lead you to believe significant protection for the vaxxed component. The smaller the unvaxxed group is (and it is shrinking), the less relevant the rates per 100k are and the more relevant actual case numbers begin to be.- JMO
The original Phase 3 tests (Pfizer? Moderna? Both?) even though each arm (vaccine, placebo) had about 20,000 people each, the claimed success rates for efficacy were based on not much larger numbers! Talk about making grandiose extrapolations from tiny samples!.
They should give the numbers since time of vaccination. Since its known vaccine wanes with time this would show how long it takes for the protection to turn negative.
Thanks for that. Poor form from Alex.
Thanks, great observations. When I went to the actual data set as you did, I didn't spot the difference right away.
Their push to vaccinate everyone with a vaccine that doesn't work isn't going to bode well.
Did you keep the data from September and end of November? I haven't been able to find historic data except for the raw data.
Wish I could post screenshots :-)
On the website he links, you can change past 30 days to past 90 days. You can see the time series there.
thanks for being so helpful! will try.
Some pretty good data for downloading here: https://data.ontario.ca/dataset?keywords_en=COVID-19 and here: https://covid-19.ontario.ca/covid-19-epidemiologic-summaries-public-health-ontario.
Also, follow @Golden_Pup on twitter. He is an Ontario guy who is all over this data daily.
Yes! @Golden_Pup is doing amazing work to make the data easy to read.
The most galling aspect of Ontario's stats is the daily "unknown" vax status when it comes to hospitalizations and icu admittance. Many figure it is a way to sweep vax injuries out of the vaxxed column, but we don't know because they never explain it, so everyone speculates.
Either way, it doesn't look good on the government's ability to track anything.
Boosters create uncertainty about how the body deals with accumulating spike proteins as well as uncertainty on immune system adaptation to repeated innoculation.
It's horrifying to think nobody knows how this is going to play out while forcing it on populations globally.
And yet the people running it claim The Science supports forcing it even onto children at close to no risk to covid, with a leaky shot that doesn't prevent spread.
Janti….your last 2 sentences show wisdom beyond stats and anecdotes…big picture !
Define short-term protection. Define Efficacy. High zone tolerance?? 🤣 If you define them as I do (medical definitions) then there is no protection and therefore there is no efficacy. Negative efficacy?do you mean side effects of vaccines-- if so there is a many page bio of books I can send you that have shown just that-- that there are damaging immune system impacts done by vaccines and I don't mean the gene therapy masquerading as a vaccine (that redefinition CDC, WHO etc)
You seem knowledgeable about these things whereas I am a construction guy. What do you know about the Novavax that Canada is supposed to get? Is it more of the same crap or does it actually work?
Bingo!! the boosters are to avoid negative efficacy.
If the booster is required to be fully vaccinated - they are they not just moving the goal post - ergo everyone double jabbed get reclassified as the unvaccinated?
Well there's only one way to find out.. Boost away!!
Sure!…what could go wrong?
(Sarc on)
Or how many shots until your odds of a serious AE become 1.0?
Actually, it has already occurred in the UK and in Sweden. Probably has also in other countries but most steadfastly refuse to give infection rates since time of vaccinated. They’ll give it up to 6 months where efficacy has dropped to null, but not after that.
Alec Baldwin has still killed more people than Omicron.
He didn't pull the trigger the gun just you know went off. That happens to my Glock all the time. Why do you spread misinformation
LOL!
Yup, He's bored plenty of people to death.
They will eat their young! Anyone who fears Covid more than the arbitrary edicts designed to provide the illusion of safety must already be sick in the head.
Well, we sort of already know that they will at least "use" their young because all three vaccines required (either for development or testing) fetal cell lines developed from aborted fetal tissue. If they have an alternative to using fetal tissues, they haven't disclosed it, despite the fact that doing so would eliminate the religious exemption and would gut a good chunk of the opposition, from a legal standpoint. So, apparently, they can only produce and test it if they use fetal tissue, i.e. "eat the young".
Too bad Trump lost the election he could have pardoned Alec
Probably true, since he didn’t have the stones to pardon Julian Assange or Ross Ulbricht
lol
Too soon? 🤣
Never😏
I hate to see anyone get sick, but that loudmouth tyrant Jim Cramer just said he’s positive for Convid. Tough to feel sorry for him after his insane rant last week, but hope he recovers soon.
It’s not very Christian of me but with the news that Jim Cramer, Cory Booker, and Fauxcahontas are positive puts a tiny smile on my face. I normally would never think this way but the disgusting vitriol aimed at us by these very people make me angry
It's not schadenfreude to appreciate Karma.
All boosted out the wazooooo!
“…out the wazoooo!”….there goes that giggle-inducing phrase again
"Wazoo" is mentioned in the Frank Zappa song that also choruses "Look here brother, who you trying to jive with that cosmic debris?" 😜
Thanks for the musical history lesson! I’ll look for the entire song, just for fun!
I think you are NOT alone 😊
It might be fake. He felt the need to show his test, to prove a lie? Add him to pocahontas and spartacus and you have some of the most dishonest shills in the country. Why believe them now?
Oh no...he only has a 99.98% chance of survival. Or, the inverse odds of you making money on his stock picks.
Hah nice!
Buffoon Cramer who’s pushing the jab mandates. And now he has it.
Failure has never stopped mandates, has it?
BAM 💥
I wonder if he got monoclonals yet. He'd still say the shot saved him.
His comment was that he definitely would have been a lot sicker if he hadn't had all 3 shots. How, just HOW, does he know this? And yet, it never occurs to these people to wonder why they've had all these shots and they're still getting sick?!!
But they told those of us that had mild cases because we were healthy and took various supplements that it was just because we "got lucky."
Exactly! I was one of those people with a very mild case, and I AM quite healthy (exercise, eat right, take vitamins). From the very beginning, I have questioned why public health "experts" have never so much as suggested increasing vitamin D intake, getting a little more exercise, losing a little weight. Just sit in your house and wait for the vaccine! So aggravating.
I bet he's frantically looking for ivermectin too.
To covidians, IVM is blasphemous. Like HCQ. They're lucky the people running this disaster allowed them MABs as an option.
Personally I would avoid monoclonals because it's another EUA. But for people at serious risk, it's better than nothing (or even worse, remdesevir and a vent).
He's white so that "equity might kick in."
Ha ha. Sorry you get no sympathy when you act like that.
I can't stand that blowhard!
Can you say...."Vaccine Enhanced Disease?"
I can! aka ADE or Pathogenic Priming
Any data on unvaccinated previously infected? Always one category they never seem to be interested in. 🤔
Not reported because you know how strong and effective natural immunity is. Cannot have humanity knowing this. Kind of like not having humanity know about all the wonderful, cheap, safe and effective preventative and early treatment options there has been like Ivernectin and HCQ. God forbid these perps suggest the right thing to do!
Exactly!!
Yep, natural immunity is even more a taboo topic in the propaganda stream media. It's almost as if they discourage mention of anything that might interfere with a narrative that ensures profits to Pharma and power to petty tyrants...but perhaps I'm just paranoid? 🤫
Hmmm…I wonder why???
The Dems know this virus is burning out as all flu’s do, and are concerned the fear of it is waning. Biden’s remarks on Tuesday are probably an attempt to infuse another shot of fear into our society for the purposes of keeping this going until 2024.
I wouldn't know what the piece of crap said last Tuesday. I pay zero attention to him or any of those in his corrupt camp.
But, but, but…. The CDC & Uncle Joe assured us this was "the virus of the unvaxed!" Now this is the biggest "variant surprise" yet. Let's go Brandon!!
"Any comment on what's happened in Gibraltar, Mr. President?" 🤪
"Sure I got knocked up, but thanks to the Pill, at least I'm not having twins!"
Hahahahahahahaha hahahhahaha Hahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahaha hahahhahaha hahahhahaha!!!
That’s a PERFECT analogy!
Hahahahahahahaha hahahhahaha Hahahahahahahaha!
It could be both or it could be that the jab is not only failing but has decimated the immune system of the jabbed. The jabbed are likely to be more worried about the virus as well so they are probably more likely to dash off and get tested at the slightest sign of a sniffle whereas the non-jabbed will say ‘hmmm, what do you know. I have the sniffles. I will stay home and have some soup’…
“hmmm, what do you know. I have the sniffles. I will stay home and have some soup’…” what a lovely, cozy, comment …full of common sense 🥣
What?! You are not going freak out and rush to the nearest long, Covid testing line?
Great points. Prof Sukharit Bakhdi has just come out with new info that the vaxxes were designed to fail.
They are ALL designed to fail (or experiment) that includes Polio which everyone LOVES to bring out as the golden child of Vaccines. These gene therapy wanna-be's are no different. They are designed to do one thing only-- make money and life time rents (due to new chronic illness side-effects among others) for Pharma
See Dr. Dan Stock's recent podcast interview with Daniel Horowitz . . . https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-the-conservative-co-28419175/episode/how-the-shots-destroy-your-immune-90292308/
Thanks 🥰
Exactly-- basic immunology!!
Some interesting discussion regarding Omicron in the link below that fits this data.
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/omicron-is-not-normal
it's a must read
Ditto. Very important, and follow the link to el gato malo as well.
Yes, good point, I read the link, it's got a lot of interesting info too. I like what he writes and follow him too.
Wow that is interesting
Thanks for this information. Isn't this exactly what Robert Malone, Geert Vanden Bossche, Mike Yeadon and other scientists have been warning would happen?
I mean, let's be honest here. The COVID clinically insane pearl clutchers (about 20% of the population) won't care that this is a mild disease. Another 20% of the population hasn't really given a shit about covid since day 1. Will be interesting to see how the normies in the middle react to the fact that the virus gives zero protection against transmission, but this variant really is just a fucking cold.
Ontario's approach:
1. Mix & Match vaccines
2. 12-16 wks b/w doses
3. Schools closed more than any place in Canada
4. Small businesses closed from Nov. 2020-July 2021
5. Vax passports for everyone 12+ in every public space incl. banning teens from sports
Ontario is a complete failure.
6. All levels of public health have become petty tyrants who spread fear and encourage division between vaxxed and unvaxxed. No mention of good nutrition, essential vitamins/minerals, etc.: they have destroyed their credibility
Speaking of vitamins, check out this study. It is golden. Dr. John Campbell has a few youtube videos reviewing the study, one includes an Israeli doctor:
COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
by Borsche et al available here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34684596/
caveat: vitamin K2 interferes with coumadin/warfarin so speak to doc before supplementing.
Exactly!!! An adequate and stable level of vitamin D has long been seen as a crucial part of the puzzle, but then the evil monsters downplayed it and dismissed it.
Pathologist Dr Ryan Cole has been banging the drum about proactively taking care of your health, he and Drs Malone, Kory, McCollough, and Vanden Bossche (just to name a few) are excellent resources. They've said this is a pandemic of under-treatment and lack of early treatment.
Unless of course this was a planned wealth transfer from small biz (the middle class) to "someone else" - because, COVID19.
Interesting how only a few families own most of the business (outside of government goons) in Canada. THAT is why prices are so high and distribution so inefficient, but it does allow the government to only have to involved a limited number of corrupt people.
I just noticed that "pandemic" is an anagram of "Dem panic."
Pandemic (an anapoem)
Dem panic!
Med panic!
MD in a cape
Camped in
nice damp
(medic nap)
Pained MC
Pain Med C
Epic damn!
Yep lockdown was boring.....
Pandemic of the fully vaccinated.
Yet we're hearing lunatics talk about mask mandates, lock-downs, school closings, more shots, etc. etc.
What would happen if we just stop paying attention to this?
More and more people are doing just that. I stopped paying any attention to their declarations a year ago.
Like the Amish people.
They appear to have changed all the graphs and data on that page to 'discourage vaccine hesitancy'. If you look now, you won't find that graph above, and all the data shows unvaxxed are majority of: Cases, hospitalizations and ICU.
Now if I had to guess who is lying on track record, its a clear winner for the Government of Ontario and all Canadian official media. While AB here has a stellar record for truthfulness, including extra emails to correct errors.
I was just informed that in BC, specifically Vancouver I believe. the government has fined people upwards of $20,000.00 for attempting to upload fake vaxx-passes to get some kind of government QR code or whatnot. However, the caller tells me that the radio announced, "it's all ok now as they all have appointments".
The assumption is, the fines are dropped if you agree to get vaccinated.
Something so dark and evil is afoot here that there is no actual adjective for it yet.
Meanwhile, I sincerely hope that Alex downloaded the Ontario webpage with the graphs or has screen grabs of it all. If so, it needs to be posted ASAP.
UPDATE: Mayor of Hamburg caught manipulating Covid data to coerce vaxx
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/12/19/hamburgs-mayor-uses-fake-data-about-unvaccinated-to-justify-2g/
The graph Alex posted is still there:
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
But he did cherry-pick the data, since the per-100k plot shows a bigger increase among vaccinated recently but still lower case rate versus unvaccinated...
I think its gone - "not available due to technical difficulties" is the message I get...what a joke.
It’s still there … here’s the proper link:
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data#hospitalizationsByVaccinationStatus
I just clicked and got the "technical difficulties" message. I don't assume this is nefarious. It's the internet. Stuff happens.
Just keep scrolling down, the graph will show up.
The graph is gone....I'm in FL...
I think that a different graph (when you scroll down) to the one Alex posted.
It’s exactly the same graph/data. … It seems he was just looking at it on a mobile device.
The data is different - the graph I see shows the unvaccinated have more cases than the jabbed.
Sorry, I don't see it. I think enough people are here that we can figure out if the graph is blocked in Ontario. Or maybe set VPN for the US or something. But i just get the 'sorry' error.
I see, I am in the US, and the exact graph Alex posted (plus one more day) is still there.
Oh boy. So this could be an equally important story. Ontario may have geoblocked the graph so people don't 'get the wrong idea'. Sounds like politics in the 21st century.
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/12/19/hamburgs-mayor-uses-fake-data-about-unvaccinated-to-justify-2g/
Thank you for this link.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data#hospitalizationsByVaccinationStatus
Thanks. I haven't found it yet. Even so, the various layers of Canadian governments are not above lying in the boldface and data manipulation would be an easy call for them. This whole thing stinks.
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/12/19/hamburgs-mayor-uses-fake-data-about-unvaccinated-to-justify-2g/
YES, exactly! Thank you for pointing that out!
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/12/19/hamburgs-mayor-uses-fake-data-about-unvaccinated-to-justify-2g/
Look all the government and public health appartachiks are doing these manipulations to get their Christmas bonuses-- seriously. When will people realize their health is a product to these people from which they make their money.
Again, It looks like the curve is flattening on the wrong axis. Somebody Call Fauci ASAP !
The lil narcissist fraud would simply say if you don't heed him you are against science itself. Name one person in your lifetime you now know of who has been responsible for more destroyed lives and livelihoods in the world than Fauci?
I was aware of those 3 epidemiologists mention who took a stance early on with Collins and his fellow agenda collaborators yes. Great info for those not yet knowing the true historical context of Collins and Fauci and the NIH
mentioned
Imagine that. I suspected long ago that the 'vaccines' make things worse.
Christ was born to free the unvaccinated. Enjoy Christmas.
A friend of mine got Covid from a fully vaccinated friend of hers. I wonder how that gets reported? The vaccinated passing it on to the unvaccinated. But I guess this truth will go unreported.
No mystery here with vaccinated folks carrying a viral load 250 times that of the unvaccinated according to a study out of Oxford. Hard to admit but the vaccinated people are spreading the virus. This is what viruses do.
More precisely, that is what a novel leaky "vaccine" of a type never widely deployed in world history, gives relatively good systemic immunity (whatever correct term is) but does not prevent the virus from infecting and reproducing in the airways. [The above "explanation" subject to my "Cliff Notes" understanding of the mechanisms.]
We should look at the rate per 100,000 which is 17 for the vaccinated and 24 for the unvaccinated. That would make is seem like the unvaccinated are still getting infected at a higher rate than the vaccinated, however there is a caveat: the unvaccinated are tested much more often than the vaccinated, which makes the comparison completely unfair. What they should tell us is the POSITIVE RATE over time in each group (positive tests / total number of tests).
“the unvaccinated are tested much more often than the vaccinated” 💥…but don’t worry the NFL figured out how to fix that problem in their community…🤣
Cheat
Colorado consistently reports more un-injected hospitalizations than injected, which goes against pretty much everywhere else I've looked. Either CO is a unicorn or they lie about their data.
They might be pulling the trick that we're pulling here -- if the hospital can't CONFIRM your vax status, you are marked as unvaxxed.
this makes sense. it's also a massive lie...but given the political climate that also makes sense.
Not so fast, Alex. The apparent “preference“ for the vaccinated shows up only in the absolute numbers but not in the rate of cases per 100,000. That is the more relevant statistic. On the other hand, it appears that the rate of increase is much greater in the vaccinated group based simply on the visual slope of the lines. Enjoying the book.
Alex, I'm a big fan of your work, but this email seems a little disingenuous (more like what we hear from the talking heads on TV), which isn't what I've come to expect from you. Why did you choose to show raw case numbers for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? Showing the rate of cases by vaccination status would seem to be more meaningful, since the proportion of vaccinated and unvaccinated in the population is constantly changing. I went to the website you referenced and viewed this Ontario data by rate. It shows the case rate for the unvaccinated is about 150% of the rate for the vaccinated/partially vaccinated--which would indicate that being vaccinated still provides protection against the virus. However, it's worth noting that the slope of the rate line for vaccinated over the last week is steeper than that of the unvaccinated, which could mean that within a couple of weeks even the rate for vaccinated will be greater than for the unvaccinated. That would definitely support the case you're making!
Looks like I went and posted the same message!
There is a reason they cut off the age stratification data at November 28th (you can check for yourself that the age specific case rates stop there.)
It is because in recent weeks, the groups above 18 show higher case rates for the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. This is also the case in the UK numbers.
Interesting. I've seen that in the UK data, but wasn't aware it was true in the Canada data as well. Can you post the Canada numbers here?
It’s crazy! Now the media has partially woken up, Yahoo reporting on the death of a 26yr old with myocarditis directly correlated to the vaccine. At least it’s in the open after how many deaths?? Thousands with similar related issues! 47yr old male patient close friend, no pre-existing conditions, ticker working at 40% due to infarction attributed to vaccine. No other reasoning his docs have to come to that conclusion. It’s a mess and the drug companies need to hide it
Hmm … and why not take a moment to click on the button that gives you the RATE of infections, not just the absolute numbers?!?
Of course the absolute numbers will be higher among the vaccinated, because Ontario is a majority vaccinated province/jurisdiction.
The absolute numbers do not give you a good idea as to the relative risk of being vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.
What matters is the RATE of infection!
And the RATE graph looks very different, with the unvaccinated way on top!
This is the 3rd time I’ve tried to raise this very basic point on in response to Alex’s posts … and his continued failure to understand the difference is frankly baffling. It’s almost as if he does not want to understand.
Hey dummy. Notice the slopes of the two curves diverging on the absolute numbers? The rate of increase for the vaccinated is far higher than the rate of increase for the unvaccinated. I don't need Alex to click on that radio button. I can tell that the vaccines are doing jack shit to stop the spread just by eyeballing it. A sterilizing vaccine wouldn't produce a 60 degree angle case curve.
And if the case rate happens to be higher in the unvaccinated TODAY, it is clear from the slope of each curve that this will likely not persist into the future. But at the point where the vaccinated case rate equals the unvaccinated case rate, I'm sure you'll just forget about this graph and move onto some other piece of bullshit that supports your quixotic quest for universal MRNA gene therapy.
Fuck you!
Now there’s intellectual rigour for you. “I don’t need to look at the facts! I just feel the 60 degree burn!” (What’s with people like you anyway?!? The exact same psychological markers as the climate alarmists … you WANT to feel the burn! And fuck any “good” news!)
We’re not talking about “sterilizing vaccine” here, dipshit!
The question is, given the data Alex has set out for us, would you want to be in the vaccinated or the unvaccinated group? Given ONLY that data, it’s clearly the former. That doesn’t mean other data does not or will not show otherwise. (E.g., in Denmark, the rates look different.)
Is that clear enough for you, dipshit!
Now go ahead and click on that radio button and take a closer look … or just keep spinning in the shit bucket!
How about you go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. And if we're not talking about a "sterilizing vaccine", then why the fuck does our government have a hard on for vaccine mandates? Looks like the virus is exploding through the Northeast United States right now. New York and New Jersey are both at almost 70% of adults fully vaccinated, and have the same number of cases as this time last year when 0% of adults were fully vaccinated.
Gee, its almost like we aren't talking about a "vaccine" at all you dumb fucking asshole. More like an experimental gene therapy that helps at-risk populations if they take it before they get sick. The CDC changed the definition of vaccine so that the MRNA poison would qualify. This allows them to label anyone who declines the experimental gene therapy an "anti-vaxxer" which has severe negative connotations. Pure bullshit. But I'm sure you eat it up with a fucking spoon.
Hey Joe … Stop pretending you understand elementary statistics, and/or data interpretation methodologies, and/or simple fucking logic. Instead, go check out your window again, for the Nth time today … the nice men in the nice white coats should arrive any minute now … and don’t you worry, the Thorazine drip is just for that nasty rash on the back of your neck …
Let's see what Hasan says to that . Hmmm :)
exactly-- people going to fear porn 🙄
what fear porn? This is reality. EVERYONE is going to get COVID. The vaccines don't stop you from getting it. They don't stop you from transmitting it.
Which makes the idea of vaccine mandates a complete fucking absurdity.
Fear porn would be looking at the cases and saying "make sure you take your vaccine and booster!"
If you're young and in good shape, Covid remains a complete and total fucking joke. No experimental gene therapy needed.
The end.
Alex Berenson said to things that match the graph and the data at that Ontario Govt website.
1. The vaccines have now failed completely.
2. Omicron preferentially infects vaccinated people.
The rate of infection is high among the partilly-plus-fully vaccinated, according to the data. Much higher than promised with the deceptive 95 percent relative efficacy. The failure is in stopping the spread.
The second point is interesting because one would have to believe that the vaccinated would have been more protected from transmission than the unvaccinated. If it turns out that this protection is only slighty more, as per the 1 percent absolute efficacy, then, the point would remain standing against the promotion of the vax program as the solution that would be the only route to community immunity levels that would return society to normal -- stopping the spread of yet more restrictions.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10339555/Two-thirds-new-Covid-hospital-patients-England-tested-positive-admitted.html?s=08
It does indeed look like the rate of infection is rising across the board, i.e., that there is a failure in stopping the spread. Assuming a good chunk of these infections are Omicron, it would be reasonable to conclude that the vaccinations are quickly losing effectiveness, again, presumably, especially as against Omicron. (Denmark has broken down infections by variant, and their data appears to confirm this … See el gato malo’s post re Denmark.)
Given this, the next logical step would be to look at the seriousness of infection/illness, and whether vaccines might offer any protection there. The Ontario data shows that, as of Dec. 20th, in a province where 12+ year olds are 88% are fully vaccinated and 3% are partially vaccinated (leaving only 9% unvaccinated), there are 75 unvaccinated cases in ICU (vs. 33 fully vaccinated) and 121 unvaccinated hospitalized (vs. 88 fully vaccinated). So, although only 9% of the population that remains unvaccinated, that population constitutes a much larger proportion of the ICU and hospitalization cases. In other words, as of Dec. 20th, the RATE of serious infection among the unvaccinated is very much higher.
All this could change of course, in favour of the unvaccinated … but given that Omicron shows low virulence overall, that doesn’t seem likely.
You are focussing on the cases vs hospitalization ratio which depends very much on testing both in general population and on admission to hospital or upon hospital visit. The testing today is asymmetric between vaxed and unvaxed so the data will be skewed going forward. However, given that the dominant virus is DELTA, as we are told, and that the emerging and more transmissable but less virulent emerging version is OMICRON, again as we are told, any drop in the hospitalization among the vaxed and unvaxed alike would likely not be attributable to the shots but rather to the decrease in the power of the new version to cause severe symptoms and hospitalizations or emerge visits. However, if the new version or versions continue to infect and to hospitalize the vaxed, its efficacy will have been proven a failure on all points. On the other hand, infection of the unvaxed, when treated early, prevents hospitalization and in this way prevents deaths at an astonishingly protective pace. That would be so for the unvaxed but not sure it would be so for the vaxed and boostered. We might consider the unvaxed to be dry timber, as they say, but as the virus becomes more and more transmissable, exposure for the unvaxed will lead to immunity; not so sure that is so for the vaxed and that would prolong the problems for the now largest segment of the population. Again, that would mean horrible failure on a huge scale.
Everybody, even us here, is overly fixated on "cases." Even before I read Alex's book, I was aware of many of the issues that make "cases," or even alleged "positive tests" a doubtful claim, at best! There are simply so many flaws in the testing methodologies. Just what is considered a "positive"? The cycle rate issue alone should throw out nearly all testing data! The problem isn't simply comparing apples and oranges, it's more like an entire produce section of the grocery store...
The statistics are bullshit. They have been from the beginning and I've seen no reason to trust them now. Show me consistent use of an unchanging metric in a large area over a long time period, and then we can talk about positive tests.
Ok, I’ve heard this point made before: that there’s an asymmetry between the testing of the vaxxed and unvaxed … but I’m not sure I understand how that affects hospitalizations, let alone ICU hospitalization. That is, I don’t see how that could skew the ICU/hospitalization count.
Are you saying that the unvaxxed are in some way ending up in the ICUs because they’re being tested more often? How would that work? I would have thought that whether or not you end up in an ICU depends on the severity of your symptoms, not whether or not you happened to be caught in the infected count (because, as you say, your group is being tested more often). Over-testing of the unvaxxed - if not corrected or otherwise accounted for - may well lead to the false impression that the rate of infection (the case rate) is higher among that group. But I don’t see how it would cause over-representation among ICU (or hospitalization) cases. … Unless you’re suggesting that your presence in the ICU is not in any way correlated with Covid status; or, put differently, that the unvaxxed are ending up in ICUs for various other reasons, but then getting caught in the ICU-with-Covid count (and NOT ICU-due-to-Covid count) just because they’re being tested more rigorously than other people, like the fully vaxxed, who also end up in ICUs. That could be the case … it’s possible, but it seems rather convoluted/improbable.
About your suggestion that the vaxxed may end up with no - as in ZERO - immunity in the long run: that is indeed a scary thought. I assume you’re referring to the OAS problem. From what I’ve read about this, even the people who place a lot of emphasis on OAS are not saying that there’s any sort of certainty about this outcome. It’s a possibility - a scary possibility - but I have yet to see a clearcut explanation as to why/how exactly it is something that is very likely. (From my admittedly limited understanding/research on this, OAS is a highly complex issue and its studied effects are ambiguous.)
As for the failure to treat early - regardless of vax status - I agree … it looks like there’s been a colossal systematic failure here, which probably reflects some sort of weird blinkered thinking and bias against treatment/therapeutics among the medical establishment (not necessarily among doctors working on the ground) … and it probably reflects American political tribalism. … I’d be curious to learn more about how extensively early treatment was applied in other countries, and how effective it has been, etc.
Yes, I do think that the emergency units are not screening based on vax status. And, so yeap, "the unvaxxed are ending up in ICUs for various other reasons, but then getting caught in the ICU-with-Covid count (and NOT ICU-due-to-Covid count) just because they’re being tested more rigorously than other people".
If the vaxed are not tested, or not tested as consistently, or tested with different assays -- especially given differences in thresholds are a very clear possibility, then, this would be a very simple explanation for the mixed signals in the trend lines - given that probably as many people are now vaxed as vax-free.
If we go by the official estimates, then, the vax-free comprise a small minority but still quite a large group. And if we combine the partially and full vaxed as a single group, within the majority, then, the ratios do look like they are trending the wrong way.
I do not think that the early treatments will be as effective with the vaxed as these are with the vax-free. So we will see differences within the vax-free group across the country, based on availability of early treatments; but less so with the vaxed, in my estimation.
As we go along the data gathering has continued to suffer and has become more and more muddled and will eventually destroy the credibility of the national trends and we will be left with patchwork analysis of state-by-state and even county-by-county trends. In my skeptical view, this weakness in gathering data has been encouraged rather than due to mere happenstance.
It is going to be difficult to reach substantive conclusions based on credible evidence, one way or the other, and THAT is going to truly cripple all sound decision making. IT WILL LEAVE USE IN THE HANDS OF EXPERT OPINION - especially govt/PHARM opinion that has gotten much wrong these past couple of years.
"Yes, I do think that the emergency units are not screening based on vax status. And, so yeap,..."
I don’t have time to elaborate now, but for a number of reasons this just doesn’t make sense. Do you have any concrete evidence this is happening? At a systemic level? (And by what means? Has someone issued a directive or something like that?) … And then: do you have evidence/reason to believe this happening in Ontario or any other Canadian or other non-US jurisdictions? … Because: from what I’ve seen, the differences in the rates of illness, and hospitalization etc. as between vaxxed and non-vaxxed are consistent across many different jurisdictions, including as different as Chile and Switzerland, etc. So you must think they’re doing this in all these different places? But if so, then again: how? And why? … It just makes no sense, sorry.
Plus the testing is highly unreliable anyway. The use of symptoms is not very reliable given the lack of uniqueness in this or that symptom or set of symptoms associated with C19, regardless of version. The best measure remains excess mortality, sadly enough.
Agree 100%. I'm almost at the point of unsubscribing. He knows exactly what he's doing.
LOL. You won't unsubscribe because the CCP pays you to troll here. Can't get your $0.03 per word if you unsubscribe.
Heh Joe, we all get that you are pissed-- can you dial it down?
Alex...respond to this please
Don't hold your breath!
I hope that this wave of "super rare, breakthrough" cases wakes people up. You cannot vaccinate and boost your way out of a pandemic from a rapidly mutating virus. Team Reality has known this all along and it is well past due for the Believers to wake up, acknowledge that fact and apologize to everyone they looked down on, or called plague rats, or wished delayed hospital treatment or even death upon. Like Dr. Chris Martenson says- I will welcome them back with open arms.
I've seen several reports now that appear to indicate that vaccinated people are getting infected and seriously ill at higher rates than the unvaccinated in many places. Perhaps this is due to Omicron. We really have no idea yet how widespread Omicron is. It could very well be dominant at this point and there just has not been enough sequencing to verify that. However, it seems more likely that these are still delta infections. Either way, how would we explain this?
Here's a thought occurred to me when I read this post today. It does not seem likely to me that there is something about Omicron that specifically targets the vaccinated. I suppose if it was engineered by a white hat biohacker as some people, including myself, have fantasized about, that it could've been designed with this in mind. I think this gives too much credit to the ability of virologists to manipulate DNA exactly to certain desired outcomes.
What I think is more likely is that we have far exceeded herd immunity due to naturally acquired immunity at this point. According to everything I've learned about naturally acquired immunity, those who have it would barely get a noticeable cold if exposed to a different strain of Covid. While, as Dr. Peter McCullough has frequently emphasized, those who have vaccine immunity have a very narrow immunity. With this in mind, it would make perfect sense that a new strain that evaded the vaccine would largely only target the vaccinated because such a significant percentage of the unvaccinated are now naturally immune.
ADE?
yes
Oh you, and your common sense!
It has to do with the "vaccinated" have weaker immune systems-- 3 doses in 6-12 months?
And yet the mush brain “leader” of the US will be lecturing the unvaccinated again tomorrow. When will this insanity end?
Biden/Pixar movie villain: “We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated – for themselves, their families and the hospitals they'll soon overwhelm," he added. "But there's good news: If you're vaccinated, and you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death." 🥸
In Ontario now, they have put mobile vaccination buses all over the place to push the 3rd shot into everyone. It's as if they don't even know their own data. Somehow the 3rd has a magic ingredient that wasn't in the first 2, even though they are exactly the same.
They are heading towards a full lockdown by next week, and the salvo will be "if 70% get the booster, then we can ease it off", like we haven't heard that before.
The problem is that should we have a REAL healthcare crisis, no one will believe these clowns…
They keep moving the goal posts…
So, it’s take tons of unproven vaccine or die? That’s our “only” option?
Really? That’s the scientific answer?
How are all these poorer countries with zero medical infrastructure managing to avoid all these deaths?
Could it be they are treating Covid early and aggressively with LONG PROVEN antivirals?
The people pushing VAX OR DIE are truly sick and demented.
I'm from Toronto Ontario - dirty secret about numbers:
->The unvaxed -1/2 are KIDS (CBC report pushing for kids vax - moronic...)
->The Vax by the flip side are much more likely to be adults, who are at risk
Many Kids are not eligible for the vax, and uptake for kids lags Adults.. Also they will never be hospitalized - Canada has ZERO healthy kids die of COVID.
The numbers are being skewed. In Canada - many Conservative Premiers want to loosen up - but the Health Bureaucracy rats them out to the media with some "grandma will die" leaked story and they back down.
I took the 1st shot of Moderna - I'm in great shape - and it hurt like hell and I had a fever. And everyone says the second jab is the bad one. And then all the heart inflammations stories started coming out. I decided to track the data - the vax is useless - in the end decided to skip the second jab.
That is number of cases and not cases per 100,000. The vaccination rate in Ontario is very high, so that chart is pretty much meaningless. In fact, if you go to cases per 100,000, the chart flips. Having said that, cases are pretty much meaningless. Since the Western world is about to lock down and force Nazi era experimental medications on people because of the Omicron variant, how many people have died from that variant? Zero. How many people are hospitalized is also a meaningless number. Think about it, people are afraid of their own shadows nowadays. So you test positive for COVID, the first thing you do is run to the hospital. Where they gladly admit you despite having zero symptoms.
Again, no chart for the naturally immune. What are they hiding?
monoclonal antibodies--anyone know how easy/hard it is to get it in New York State and how?
Just in case, asking for my Dad. All this BS and fully vaccinated family getting sick has him worried. I'd like to be able to tell him that it is gettable.
I have him on vitamin D of course.
I hope Alex doesn't mind this but it is New York and I don't know where to turn. I don't want him going to the hospital and getting vented and Remdesivired if he gets sick.
Link here. Sort by state. Shows facilities that requested monoclonals. Don't know how many internal organs you have to donate to actually get the treatment. (attempt at snide humor.) Easier to get the treatment in NY if you're over 65 I have heard. Maybe NY is over the quota for killing off seniors for the time being (2nd attempt.) Signed, Stuck in NY.
https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=c0371324e1a44ad0aa77b6d301a7e262#data
Bless you, Truth. Thank you! Dad is 87, and has escaped their attempts so far. 😎
The Irish learned how long ago. I'm stuck in NY too, but run off to Rockland County which is refusing to obey mandates.
Our county further north is not enforcing the mandates (latest mask theatre mandates) either except for the "Karen cashier police" in CVS.
Ha! How far North. I have some great memories of farther North NY including central NY and the Johnson City area
From a comment on https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/booster-eligibility-expands-across-ontario-as-covid-19-cases-rise
"Cases from Sunday Dec 19th announced today, 3784cases, 2781 fully vaccinated cases, 746 unvaccinated cases of which 275 are in the 12 year old and older age groups, and 471 are under 12 years of age, 119 partial vaccinated cases and 138 unknown cases.
When comparing the 2781 fully vaccinated cases that we know are in the 12 years and older age bracket with the 275 unvaccinated cases in that same age brackets, the fully vaccinated account for 91% of the cases.
This is the highest percentage to date of fully vaccinated cases in the 12 year old and up and is the third straight day at 90% or over. Over the last tree weeks these fully vaccinated cases have risen from under 60% to 90%."
So ratio of fully vaxxed cases to unvaxxed if you exclude the kids, is 10:1
Seem to recall reading that around 11.78m Ontarians are fully jabbed out of a population of approx 14m. so over 80%. 2781 jabbed/3784 = 74% so that is reasonably close to the 80% figure. 746/3784 = 19.7% so again close to the overall ratio. The kids probably account for the rest
It certainly appears to me based on my observations that the virus is now preferentially infecting vaccinated people. Of course, our most recent examples are 2 of the most prominent Senators. They were both reportedly fully vaccinated AND boosted.
So, this is what the molecular science says, given the mutations. eugyppius has an article reporting on the Occum's Razor theory of Omicron origin. Yep, built in the lab. Why... several reasons. Want to guess?
None of us who were aware since the beginning sees these outcomes surprising. There has never been an successful outcome with corona injections and why for past 20 years they ended. Hearing the puppet is being told to address the nation on Tues regarding omiCON and plan going forward. Do not be surprised if he now is told to shift narrative to the whu-flu becoming more "endemic in nature" to cover all the tracks they knew they had to cover as well as knowing the 22 election year approaches. The puppet knows his poll #'s are the worst of any President after first 11 months in WH
Could the upward tick in December correlate with boosters?
I know a couple people that got boosted and then got covid within a few weeks. Most doing fine so far, one required monoclonals.
Has anyone thought about trying to create a vaccine that stops infection and transmission?
In the U.S. there have been very few confirmed cases of Omicron, so all the NFL players and other sports players and everyone else tested positive for Covid must be the Delta, so why is all the reporting about how Omicron is causing an increase in cases. The vaccinated must be getting Delta rapidly now.
Pathogenic priming/ADE?
and yet, the lies, the blatant hate, the soulless hypocrisy, the sith-like lust for power, it all goes on unabated. Biden tells us this weekend be prepared to die and have a brutal winter.
F Joe Thanos Biden, F the people who cower onward, and F those who tell us to suck it up until next November. in other words, F everyone!!!
It's fun looking at this data. Anecdotally, I know many people who now have Covid. And, anecdotally again 100% of them are double vaxxed and boosted. So kind of interesting to look at data and then do the "gut check".
Be sure to check out the more-detailed data chart about hospitalizations in ICU -- the total numbers DO NOT indicate that the majority of ICU beds are being filled by Covid patients -- it's the opposite! The VAST MAJORITY of ICU beds are filled by non-Covid patients.
Aaand the death rate remains at 0%
But with "an abundance of caution" will have decried no Christmas for the unvaccinated. And the vaccinated should double mask and stay home too and stay away from the triple vaccinated.
Omicron is a blessing in disguise. It's going to infect everyone no matter what, but this highly contagious non-lethal form of covid will actually build everyone's immune systems and provide stronger herd immunity for the public. Aaand the government is trying to stop it.
The symptoms of Omicron are (I am not making this up): runny nose, headache, fatigue, sneezing and sore throat.
You're absolutely right. And that's exactly what I've been sick with over the past 5 days. And I'm getting better. My immune system took care of it.
Now can you imagine what would happen to me if I went and got tested for covid? They'd lock me in the house for 14 days over the Christmas holiday. Instead, I stayed home with my symptoms so I didn't get others sick. I know when it's ok to go back out, when I'm not symptomatic anymore. No sneezing, coughing, runny nose. I'm good to go. I'm responsible enough to do what I should do. I don't need the government to help me with that. Oh and I even consulted my doctor over the phone, because she's good that way. We don't need the damn government for any of this. And the last thing I want to do is add to that sham case count.
Everything I've read so far is that Omicron spreads in the wind but is weaker than the Ukraine.
UKRAINE NOT WEAK!