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The lies are so transparent at this point that if you still can’t see through them then you’re practically an NPC as far as I'm concerned. That’s not a dig at democrats at all, it’s a dig at anyone still fooled by this con this late in the game.

The FDA has been hiding massive Pfizer COVID vaccine damage & death since as early as Feb of 2021:

http://tritorch.com/HiddenVaccineDamageAndDeath [image]

So of course the FDA needs another 55 years in order to release the rest of this data:

http://tritorch.com/FDAWants77Years [image]

The CEO of Pfizer and the EU Commission Chief are in love, so together they've decided that mandating blanket injections and vax passports is what's good for Europeans:

http://tritorch.com/matchMadeInHeaven [image]

The near universal global ban on Ivermectin and HCQ, the lockdowns, the six feet, the masking, the mandates, and most importantly of all _the vax passports_ were strategies all orchestrated and enforced from a place that resides above the sovereignty of nations at the very top of the global power structure.

That practically every nation on the planet all moved in lockstep to adopt these strategies simultaneously while using eerily similar language to explain the reasoning for them - and all for a cold virus with a survivability rating of 99.85% - should tell you in big G.L.A.R.I.N.G. letters that the nations themselves and the politicians that run them are merely the puppets of a higher authority. Here's one:

http://tritorch.com/KlausSchwabWEF [video 1min]

And finally, here is Maajid Nawaz detailing this globalists' con to Joe Rogan - leaving him speachless:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8JHGfuJSXd71 [video 2min]

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The constitution was supposed to protect us from this and it failed miserably.

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The Constitution didn't fail us, we failed us. We are the watchdogs of our government and we have not been barking for quite a long time:

https://tritorch.com/illFaresTheLand

Those that expect to remain ignorant and free - expect what never was and will never be. -Benjamin Franklin

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The dumbing down of the American Citizen through the Indoctrination Camps called Public Schools played a huge part in this debacle. Critical Thinking Skills were Lost. The Dept. of Education, I mean Indoctrination, didn't exist until 1980, It's been downhill ever since.

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But even people in their 30s thru their 80s have lost their ability to reason these past few years. I think it's been the push to elevate feelings above all else that has made them submit their reason to the whims of emotion.

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Right. Even if something is considered to be good or kind or nice to do that does not mean the federal government should do it. Compassion is the worst possible reasoning for any federal government activity. Because once intentions become self-justifying then freedom is subject to someone else's too-powerful-to-resist compassion. I always remember Kathy Bates' character in the movie Misery when I think of compassionate government. She loved James Caan's character so much that she had to hobble him to demonstrate her love. Terrifying. And we are seeing it play out now in most of the western world.

Warning - this can be disturbing. Especially the very last sentence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btj2YwR8g2A

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Interesting! Yes, as bad as it is for an individual to operate by emotion, it's catastrophic when the government does. In fact, I still remember Kofi Annan mentioning love many years back. It was the first time I'd heard any leader bring that into a discussion about policy and my antennae went up. They need to govern with reason. For one thing, it's easy to see when reason is wrong, but people's emotions just are and aren't "wrong" per se. In our unrestrained society, emotions and the thoughts coming from them can be all over the map and yet the person is convinced the decision is a great one. Case in point is the identify-your-own-bathroom situation which serves very, very few and is potentially disturbing to many.

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👍. Cuz the little 💕doesn’t work.

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If you walked into a 4th year liberal arts college class and asked them what the Bill of Rights is/contains, I’d defy you to get a response.

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My nephew told me a few years ago (at age 17) that we don't need nations. Based on that nothing would surprise me. It's the adults going along with it that have me speechless.

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so many who said: "question authority-resist the man" are now in authority & "the man" so stop questioning & resisting

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And if we point this out we're the bad guy.

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Lost their ability to reason? The public schools consider reason mean defining a syllogism. Examining the validity of the propositions isn't required. Don't even get me started about situational ethics.

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LOOK AT THE MEDS THEY TAKE. Most dull the mind. Especially ADHD, DEPRESSION MEDS.

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No wonder doctors are pressing people to take anti-depressants. I have two friends who said the pressure was quite intense and they aren't at all depressed.

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Yup--this has been in the works for 50 years now. This is their big chance to destroy and remake the US into a CCP style internment camp. You think they are going to back off of their totalitarianism? Only radical means will make them move.

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The west has been jealous of China and their iron fist. The elite love their power, money, and brutality.

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They absolutely do👍 Just want to say also: the Elite will do absolutely anything- ie what the world just saw happen in Ottawa Canada ( govt brought in UN troops & used brutal force on its OWN citizens); to keep the world/country- everyone from seeing that a Spiritual Awakening has begun. It’s happening. THIS fact is extremely frightening for the Elite/WEF/Totalitarian Facets. This 🇨🇦 hopes Canada has kicked off the Spiritual Revolution for the world. Everyone must see it’s true power. This type of “freedom” is undefeatable…& they know it!!!!!✌️🇨🇦💗

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🇨🇦Here. If Canada is any example… Nope they WILL NOT back off their totalitarianism🆘. Radical means have been taken here. The ROAD to freedom will be long. I suspect everyone on this page is ready for an “ultra marathon”? Relentless pressure on the System required & strategic planning… gotta say I am running on fumes. Time to recharge.✌️💗🇨🇦 Surreal here in Canada🤢

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Instead of teaching kids the basics, public schools waste time on classes that are useless. WSJ this weekend reported on a new book about a fellow named Chase who was in president Lincoln's cabinet. What struck me was that the man had graduated college at 18 and was pursuing a law career. What are our 18 year old's doing.

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Video games to dull their thinking.

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Parents allowing their children to be mesmerized by fantasy.

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Public education began using the Bible as its primer. Children could read it before entering school.

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19 yr old grand son works, and then spends time with his firl friend, beyond that nothing. While I know he's not dumb, he is LAZY.

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Yes indeed. The anti-feminist feminist, Janice Flamingo pointed out that every college and university in North America are nothing but indoctrination centers for social justice. That has simply moved downward to the lowest levels of education who can't think critically and they have truly become the latest useful idiots for the globalist elitists led by Klaus Schwab and his cadre of veiled Stalinists. If that weren't enough, we have the indoctrination of the gender insane whose ultimate aim is to have sexual access to our children. The powers that be are doing everthing to assault their childhood innocence with pornographic "literature" to get them to dispense with any inhibitions as early as possible. Then the adults can swoop in once they manage to enact laws that lower the age of consent making every child fair game for every adult. It's all so sinister.

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We have lost our moral compass and common sense… the ability to THINK CRITICALLY had been squashed by the educational system, beginning in the universities and morphing down into primary and secondary education. Teachers no longer think parents have the right to say what is taught to their children. The one good thing Covid did was to expose parents to what was going on when the classroom became the home computer.

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Dostoevsky said "If God is dead then everything is permitted", which of course means a slow slide to nihilism. That's where we have arrived. You can't get a wokester to say what they are for, just what they are against, which is everything. The nihilist philosophy eats everything including itself, it has munched through all of our institutions and our relations. Very evil people have noted their chance to gain total power and money from this, by substituting the state for God. For the family. For the individual. They put group identity above individual identity, make us all divide into groups (Black Lives Matter!), and then simply watch the carnage unfold. I'm wondering whether the societies where God did not die, like Thailand and Russia, will recover first.

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Atlas Shrugged

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True that! I have made those exact statements for over two years. I know I’m on the list of subversives and domestic terrorist, as are most of us in this blog.

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Yes we are on their list for elimination. LH.

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John 17

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NEA was created under carter about 1980-US was top in education; now about 40-maybe we should defund NEA?

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This is an excellent read and still relevant today. There have been several printings. First published in 1984. “NEA, Trojan Horse in American Education.”

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I agree with M. Tritorch. The Constitution is a piece of paper containing ideals and a blueprint to " . . . and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity . . .". Elected and appointed officials swear an oath to The Constitution. Legislators, Jurists, and Executive Branch (elected and appointed) personnel have violated that oath repeatedly and We the People have failed to remove them from office and reduce the power of that office. It's on us, not The Constitution.

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All these 'leaders' have been bought off or threatened with their lives. We are in for the fight of our lives.

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We need to take all of the so called "elites" into custody for crimes against humanity, try them, and properly execute them by firing squad. Remember Trump brought that form of execution back. We also need to take any assets they have left as restitution for their crimes and so their families can't continue the carnage.

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Coulda woulda shoudda

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TH our only standard bearer is I AM. The only ONE we can trust.

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And as a whole, communities across the country have been bribed into going along through "federal matching funds." It affects everything from education to highway projects. If you want the federal money to offset paying for it locally, you hand over control and "quality control" to the feds. That was NOT in the Constitution, but our "representatives" have allowed to let it get out of control.

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Money is THE leverage for the "reset". Police and military and doctors and hospitals -virtually everyone - getting that govt check acquiesce to the propaganda (and spread it) or risk loss of their matching funds, Medicare, pension or payroll check.

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RC

Great summation

We have allowed ourselves to make man’s government our god

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That will stop once we get rid of every last democrat in congress. The Senate has control of the purse strings and can defund stuff that goes against the constitution. That is why election day 2022 is very important. Don't let them fudge the vote counting in your area.

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Unfortunately 2022 / 2024 are a loss a foregone conclusion NO legitimate conservative candidate will win unless Dominion Voting Systems owned by the CCP is destroyed. Face this. Deal with this NOW!

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In the beginning of this republic those that came to serve as representatives of the people came to DC from all walks of life, to serve and represent the people who sent them there. After a period of time, they returned to their former lives and were replaced with others wanting to serve. It was never meant to be a lifetime career in which to be bought off by special interests and amass huge amounts of money….and power. It is disgusting what we have allowed to happen in this country… and we are reaping the whirlwind. God help us all.

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MR well stated!

My only exception is calling these early representatives “Founding Fathers.”

We have but One Father here on earth with all Righteousness and Authority in the Form of Our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus I AM.

Better to use “founders”

Caveat the Illuminati Masons followed their father as they were deists — People such as Jefferson and Franklin.

Washington later recanted as a Baptist minister managed to turn Washington away from error of his contemporaries — the Illuminati. — as witness by their correspondence of unholiness.

The change of heart by our first official president can be witnessed by Washington’s Farewell Address.

imagine his horror would be so pronounced floating on the ceiling of the Capitol and the abhorrent obelisk memorial!

Just today be discerning of the controlled opposition’s rhetoric vx actions.

As a local home system’s motto on our talk radio wisely observes — trust in GOD all others monitor!

See /// Founding \\\ Fathers quotes that mention God,

https://www.conservapedia.com/Founding_Fathers_quotes_that_mention_God

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All the institutions have abandoned their obligations and the courts - OMG - when the courts fail countries come apart. Putting countries back together they try and get the courts up and running after dealing with food and medicine and shelter. There has been some proper stuff in the courts, but our USSCt is in a strange bubble apparently only watching CNN... Bizarre and the overreaching

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And the Courts are only going to keep falling, as the ABA is revising curriculum for law schools, so down the road, we’ll only be getting more people indoctrinated into justifying the unequal application of the law.

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Equity is important. Until we have as many Asian girls in prison as violent meth head thieves our laws are not equitable. So, the options are to imprison more Asian girls on made up crimes or to not prosecute actual criminals. We are doing a bit of both in the name of Equity.

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The MSN is the worst enemy of the American people today.

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The supposed protectors of the Constitution, the Supreme Court has become another political hack/ideological agency. Nothing more.

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All the institutions have abandoned their obligations and the courts - OMG - when the courts fail countries come apart. Putting countries back together they try and get the courts up and running after dealing with food and medicine and shelter. There has been some proper stuff in the courts, but our USSCt is in a strange bubble apparently only watching CNN... Bizarre and the overreaching

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Thank you! I have been saying this for the last 20 years or so. I am ashamed that I was asleep for so long. I can only hope that it is not too late. The Constitution cannot protect people if they don't know what it says and what their rights are. We have allowed the government to subjugate us for a very long time, starting with the New Deal and Social Security, and continuing with more and more promises of lives of ease, courtesy the beneficent hand of an entity that has nothing of its own to give - only what it takes by force from the subjugated.

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The US Constitution Amendments 1-5 are basically the Golden Rule i.e., we should act thru reciprocation. About 80%, the silent majority, act this way. The remaining 20% act as if they deserve preferential treatment. A group which feels entitled to rule and take from those who produce. The worst are sociopaths with a lot of followers who can't make a living doing anything else.

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The Ten Commandments are on the face of the Supreme Court. A shame our country as a whole ignore them.

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10 Commandments = Golden Rule(more or less)

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Hillsdale College is sending a free pocket copy of the Constitution as well as the Declaration of Independence to anyone who requests one. https://lp.hillsdale.edu/free-pocket-constitution/

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👍🏼

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Fully agree tritorch! The Constitution was not designed to be your protector, but to give you the power to exercise your freedom (which is written into the Bill Of Rights). I arrived to Free America 30+ year ago because you stood for personal freedom and mine were stomped down in many ways. If you ever had your personal freedom infringed upon, it becomes so much more valuable.

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Thank you Sunshine.

"An injustice on a person somewhere is an injustice on people everywhere." -Martin Luther King Jr. (paraphrased)

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America is unique. I feel so many Americans take for granted their freedom (via the Constitution and Bill of Rights). You don't appreciate the unique position you have. Your Rights take my breath away. Americans don't understand the power of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I don't want you to lose that People Power.

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We must learn what is truly occurring, bark louder and vote.

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I must again rightly assert we will have no conservative winners unless Dominion Voting System of the CCP is demonished

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You forgot the big steal in 2020? They already have a plan to not lose any seats in November.

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It's far more than just Nov 2020 elections!

I watched them steal the NC Governorship in 2016 and the KY Governorship in 2019...unseating two competent first-term Repubs. I lived in each state when those happened and it definitely did not add-up as the state legislatures and other high offices went Repub. The MSM phony talking points were lined-up ahead of time for "why" the two Govs lost and most people bought it.

Then, don't get me started on 2018, where the steals were legion and national. Congressional and Senate seats and they almost got away with the GA and FL Governorships that year.

***Americans are SERIOUSLY ASLEEP about election fraud.***

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Now they're trying in North Carolina to keep a young wheelchair-bound Republican off the ballot claiming he was part of the "insurrection"--this is their tactic now and that's why they call the protest an insurrection.

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TH

Yes it’s called Dominion Voting Systems and their owners CCP

Blue check off 2022 / 2024

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I've been barking at and voting against these bastards since 1973. Fat lot of good it's done.

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A wise man once told me "It's not the best, but it's the best we've got". He brought me back a replica 30 years ago. I still treasure that scroll. You don't appreciate Freedom until it is in the rear view mirror.

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Exactly. The Constitution is still just fine. Our corrupt government officials have stopped keeping their oath to follow it. That's exactly why Franklin, when asked what form of government the United States would be, said, "A Republic ma'am, if you can keep it."

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I believe sir/mam that a severe price will be paid for the lack of vigilance and self discipline. "From time to time the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and tyrants."

Thomas Jefferson

That time is now.

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What's your take on Rogan? The comments to the video you posted call him a shill. Who can one trust at this point?

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I'm rather busy at the moment decaf so I will answer you later in the evening it that is acceptable.

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Thanks for letting me know. Take your time. No rush at all.

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Decaf. I don' think Rogan is bought or a shill. I just don't see it or feel it. Hope to God my read is right. Who can you trust? There are plenty and probably know their names. What we don't have yet, is a winning hand from anyone in Government. I wonder why there are no hearings or anyone pushing for the House Oversight Committee even mentioning conducting a hearing regarding Fauci, or the FDA, CDC, NIH. Congress people don't give a shit about the people, just about them. Wish we could send pitchforks through the mail with arms attached.

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Rogans bought and paid for.

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Whaddya know. How do we know? (As in what I should be looking out for with people?)

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Rogan is a shill. That's my gut feeling/intuition which has always served me well.

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It seems it comes down to a gut feeling. My gut feeling was that I didn't like his basic views, but that was based on very little viewing of him in action.

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Well said.

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As I've been saying, "We need a Revolution, just not the ones we've seen playing out so far..." That being said I am impressed with the way the Canadian Truckers have built a coalition of citizens to air their views without the violence and looting seen here in the US......

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I read your comment and just have no clue what you’re trying to say.

The violence and looting was never about “revolution“ that is focused on doing what is right responsible and appropriate for the public.

Maybe you can clarify your intent, but, at the end of the day, sociopathy will not be defeated by being pleasant kind and respectful.

And yet, people here until proven otherwise aren’t willing to make hard and painful acts of genuine conviction for a cause, and I am not advocating people risk dying, but, it ain’t going to happen by being cowards on your knees.

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Your statement: "The violence and looting was never about “revolution“ that is focused on doing what is right responsible and appropriate for the public." is precisely the point of my comment....I originally wrote "pathetic acting out disguised as a pseudo revolution" as it is technically revolting but with no purpose other than the selfinterest and ego of those participating rather than a higher cause.

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Thank you for your clarification, sorry I missed your prior comment that you followed up on.

And yet, all that violence destruction and death has gone unaddressed by people in power and control.

History shows, when you acquiesce to hate and lust for power, it just lets these “people” walk on more dead bodies…

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I've been barking! So much so my dog collar is broken!

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“Vanity, my favorite sin”…

Satan, from The Devil’s Advocate

Yeah, we excel at that these days, eh?

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Canada just found out, didn’t it?

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Benjamin Franklin was quite a poet.

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And satanic pedophile

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Franklin has been falsely portrayed as both Jewish and antisemitic (although his writings did influence Jewish thought), and your poisonous, pusillanimously perpetuated charge is the most outlandish.

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Sorry Clark

Look up Franklin and the Hellfire Club.

Satanic with murderous perversion.

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The Intelligence State has been ruling America for 40 years…

…the stolen election was required to prevent the house of cards from collapsing under President Trump’s scrutiny

Humanity needs President Trump re-elected in 2024, or all individual Rights and Freedoms will be lost…

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The drive that turned out country from the United States of America Constitutional Republic was during USS Grant Administration.

The Illuminati Rothschild and other devil seed families bailed the USA of crushing debt. In exchange we became the United States Corporation. We were hired to prosecute war we our treasure and blood. Wars are not accidents.

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True but given a peek at Trump’s wrecking ball they will never allow him to get near the presidency again. Sadly, we are a a banana republic now.

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Not yet we aren't. Nice that you have so much faith in the American people. Often we approach the precipice and then pull ourselves out. Besides that, my God is bigger than what ails us. Keep the faith.

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I do not have faith in the American people. I do have faith in GOD. His Plan stands.

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Yes, he does and, although I voted for him, he reeks of controlled opposition.

There was little swamp drainage (most of FBI leadership did get canned but replaced with other slimeballs) and only a couple of pissant indictments happened while he was POTUS. He's playing his intended role and I wish people would stop thinking of him like a savior.

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Disagree with those sentiments, vehemently! Mr. Trump had his one chance to lead this country and serve it, faithfully. He sure served us! If he was re-elected by some calamitous mischance and the easiest way forward for him was to trade in our "individual Rights and Freedoms", why neighbor, he'd be on it in a hot second!

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Sometimes your strawman is just straw…

…and your leaders the Masters of men

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the Constitution gave you the power to fight for your (Bill Of ) Rights. Do you understand you Americans are unique? Literally no other country/democracy/nation has FREEDOM written into their constitutions.. You don't understand the gift you were given. This from a Euro gal....

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The constitution is only real if the courts protect and uphold it which is crumbling fast.

The selective law enforcement we’ve seen and the corruption of our DOJ/FBI colluding with our corrupt media are precisely what Moro did in Brazil and Maduro does in Venezuela.

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When the SCOTUS refused to take up the massive 2020 election fraud, thats when The US lost its chance to survive. It's going to have to be gorilla warfare from here on in.

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Old, fed up, and itchin' for it !!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare

Guerrilla warfare is a form of irregular warfare in which small groups of combatants, such as paramilitary personnel, armed civilians, or irregulars, use military tactics including ambushes, sabotage, raids, petty warfare, hit-and-run tactics, and mobility, to fight a larger and less-mobile traditional military.

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What everyone is itching to say: We are the only primate which conducts organized warfare of any kind.

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Chimpanzees conduct organized warfare. It closely resembles the kind of warfare that some indigenous Amazonian tribes conduct. It involves deliberate, organized, nighttime raids on neighboring groups of chimpanzees, and it includes what we'd call "war crimes" - gratuitous violence. Chimpanzees don't just kill their perceived enemies, they go out of their way to torture and dismember them. They indulge in orgies of cruelty and horrific violence. The males also rape females, and not just females of different "tribes" or groups. They rape members of their own group. The females struggle to get away, protest, and scream, but the males are stronger, and get their way.

Bonobos, the relatively recently discovered, or at least identified, species of chimps are distinct from the more well-known chimps, are morphologically different in subtle ways which are not easily visible to human beings, and are not into warfare, rape, torture, etc. They've been known to kill their own kind, too, but only very rarely. Bonobos are into promiscuous sex. They "make love, not war." Hence their nickname "hippie chimps."

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They don't call it "bonobo warfare".

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Words evolve. Phrases evolve. Languages evolve. The meaning of "guerilla warfare" will evolve. I believe it's been evolving for decades, and will continue to do so.

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Oh yeah, I remember. That’s the year the democrats objected to certification of the election which is sedition right?

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Pretty sure that SCOTUS decided the 2000 had finally ended…

…nothing stolen (China sell outs started with Nixon)

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Mr. Bush used the unfortunate situation of a family whose daughter, Terri Schiavo, lay hospitalized in an irreversible vegetative state as his main wedge issue in the 2000 election.

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Same thing Obummer said once upon a time.

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Bwahaaaa

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It didn’t, we did.

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This comment is so wrong I almost think it's a CCP plant. If we were actually living by the constitution and all of this happened, then yes it failed. But the constitution was essentially discarded about 90 years ago. If we were still living by it, none of this nonsense would be happening. The government would be too small to do any real damage to Americans.

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Where are the civil libertarians and our media who were given special freedoms and protections in the constitution?

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Over half of the SC Judges appointed to protect the constitution, failed miserably. Cowards and traitors.

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It does--the 10th amendment foresaw a time, from our founder's recent battle to overcome British tyranny and following historical precedent that tyranny is about control...

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The Constitution is written for a profoundly moral, religious people. They said it at the time. And now, the Constitution is just a piece of paper. Unless we want to spill some blood to make it more than that. Sorry but that is just the reality.

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We failed miserably and still do so turning our backs on I AM corporately as a nation.

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The Constitution didn't fail. We have privatized Central Banking owned by the Rothschilds. They have corrupted everything.

DEBT based fiat currency has failed us.

Learn the facts.

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Here are the facts:

The constitution is a literal document meant to protect citizens’ God given rights from the government. It’s not the King James Bible which are a set of philosophical guidelines to live under.

In simple terms, that means if I want to gather at church or temple or synagogue to worship, the government cannot prevent me even in an “emergency”. It failed to do that at the SCOTUS level.

Get it?

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We, the American people have been asleep at the switch for MANY years…. The proverbial frog, comfortable in the pot of incrementally warming water. We have failed the founding fathers and all they fought for and sacrificed and it’s time to wake UP!!!

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Fully transparent and yet they seem unconcerned at every turn

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Indeed, they appear to believe that they are untouchable and victory is secured. It certainly appears that they can even kill presidents who disagree with them in front of the whole world only to replace them with a WEF member:

https://tritorch.com/Tanzania

If we had any actual journalists left, maybe one or two of them might have donned their detective shoes and would have actually looked into any possible motives for the elites to want to get rid of someone like the president of Tanzania who didn't appear to be towing the pandemic line outlined in my OP.

But unfortunately we don't have journalist anymore, we have CFR members masquerading as them instead.

http://tritorch.com/CFRMediaEmpire [image]

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Good Lord, that article paints a ridiculously obvious picture of what happened to that poor man. And NO ONE looked into it?

They treat us like we are dumb cattle when they do blatant stuff like that, and maybe we are because we let them get away with it.

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TY Tritorch - you are continuously on-point. Who is Joe Rogan? Oh that was two weeks ago. The manipulation is not even hidden any more. Who are the puppet masters.

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Listening to the Maajid Nawaz on Joe Rogan (on the heels of the Osterholm interview that he hosted to be more "balanced") right now. He may be the most erudite big picture skeptic we have right now. And he has an amazing personal story.

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I FOUND IT! Steve Deace Faustian Bargain kept mentioning it, I kept hunting it, only to come up empty handed.

Now my question why are we using chemical names for well known by brand name. TO CONFUSE YOU!

The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It | Opinion

https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

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The question remains, WHY? For power? What does that even mean? These people already have power and vast wealth. Have you looked at this from the Devil’s Advocate position? Imagine this, the Western world’s population is in decline, the old vastly outnumber the young, only the young are productive - how does society survive that without throwing the old into the streets? Through austerity - all must do with less so that the huge percentage who are old can survive and us young folks wouldn’t like that, of course. That is the reason for the need for more power, that is the reason for mass immigration, and that is the reason the West is trying to usurp the productivity of the rest of the world through democracy wars.

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Good question. If you can find the time to read the following and watch all of the videos you will be armed with exactly why this is occurring Jon:

http://tritorch.com/takeover

Or just read the last few paragraphs if you’re time limited. Also, please share that if you find it worth sharing.

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I read your column, my simplest reply is just what Ra’s al Ghul says to Bruce Wayne/ Batman in the first movie with Christian Bale:

“The criminal is not complicated.“

People don’t want to see the decay destruction and death that sociopaths eagerly bring to the equation of humanity.

I’ve been saying, which I sense you say in a little different way, we are doomed because people won’t fight for basic principles and beliefs that empower and sustain a healthy humanity.

At this point, I think it’s time to watch things burn, not in a Joker way, but in a consequence way that makes people who do you give a shit about living and wanting to be free autonomous and have choice, to do so by basically telling the sociopaths in so many words, “fuck you, leave or die!“

But, we have at least 150 or more million people who don’t give a shit, who willingly stay in their houses and play on their screens and just hope they can do it again tomorrow…

Thank you for your offerings, be safe and be well, just beware, they’re going to be coming after us, when they do, I will do what I need to do to protect myself and my family.

I am not going to fight for 150 million cowards, they’re on their own. I tried to be a responsible whistleblower years ago to help people, I got stabbed in the back figuratively, if I stayed longer, it would’ve been literally…

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Just advising, if you can figure out sociopathy and make it predictable, do the altruistic thing and put it out there for every concerned and invested person to read it, learn it, and practice how to thwart it.

I don’t think the criminal is complicated, but, the true sociopath, I don’t think it’s completely human because there are physiological differences in sociopaths versus true humans.

These creatures walk on our planet and have similar features like us, but they live in a completely different existence, they are ruled by hate, lust for power, utter disdain and disregard for humanity, and I think sometimes, they even don’t care about themselves and view their demise also taking others with them as considered a success.

Good luck with whatever definitions you can come up with, certainly mine are simplistic. But, you’re dealing with evil, there is no negotiation…

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Wonder just what treatments Queen Liz is getting since she tested positive for Covid???

Is she banned by “they” drugs we are blocked from using?

The universal global ban on Ivermectin and HCQ, the lockdowns, the six feet, the masking, the mandates, and most importantly of all _the vax passports_ were strategies all orchestrated and enforced from a place that resides above the sovereignty of nations at the very top of the global power structure.

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Steve Deace Faustian Bargain kept mentioning it, I kept hunting it, only to come up empty handed.

Now my question why are we using chemical names for well known by brand name. TO CONFUSE YOU! PLAQUENIL= Hydroxychloroquine IS THE BRAND NAME, MOST USED RA/LUPUS MED ON MARKET, SINCE 1955.

The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It | Opinion

https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It | Opinion

Contrary to what you hear, there is clear-cut medical evidence for the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine.

www.newsweek.com

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Philip was in a box 3 weeks after his booster jab. I am not judging, don''t have inside data. No money thrown at this can save you.

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In a box? S

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He was jabbed and 3 weeks later demised. Please understand I am emotionally bound to this as a subject of their royal majesties. He got his last jab January 9/ 2021 at age 99. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55602007 and April he passed, after being off-radar. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11437314. He was 99 and a stalwart royal support to QE2.

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That's over 3 months later, not 3 weeks.

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He got the first jab in January. They never gave out the news about the second jab, but it would have been April. My heart is broken over this mad medicine.

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In a casket, a coffin. I fear the Queen is next.

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A coffin.

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"That’s not a dig at democrats at all"

Yes well in my experience it's been roughly 90% Democrats who were covid terrified and pro-mandates and lockdowns. I could count on one hand the deplorables I've met who reacted in this way (though some certainly exist).

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ONE hand at most!

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Again, the real pandemic has been sociopathy, and the crucial ally of pervasive cowardice…

Humans as a species have devolved into abject failures as a whole. And this element we are on is a critical cause to our destruction, we lost interpersonal skills and embraced addiction, not drugs or sex primarily, but just loving ourselves and rejecting our surroundings.

And, the full consequences are still due, I think something bigger than us is about to remind us, we aren’t in charge here…

And the focus was on a virus, wow, talk about terminal deflection of focus…

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I love Maajid. I have been following him for years. Joe looked shell shocked. So it is certainly conceivable that our 2020 election was tampered by those within the US and outside US. They got together and rigged the election aided by our Intelligence. Sadly, even if proven there was a plan hatched, our divide is so bad now that the democrats and the anti Trump republicans would never be horrified and sad for our country. I suspect many elections have been tampered with. It is how we got Soros DA in many cities. Our papers all owned now by a few. Many US corporations now influenced by China or owned by them. Tony Blair. Wow. The evil one like Bush that got us into Iraq wars and bankrupted us.

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Thanks for the Tritorch url, ... I got lost for HOURS in there. Awesome stuff !!

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That is democrats

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Rogan is not much of a leader and you have to wonder why we have to settle for greedy conduits like him? The globalists' agenda seems to be driven by fear of threats to order, criminal organizations, terrorism, black markets and the like.

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Watching now. Not good news. Many of us have believed from beginning this was orchestrated by a few meant to do max harm to small business, bolster the billionaires and pharma that pays for the salaries of our federal agencies like FDA, CDC. Is it too late for the masses to wake up?

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Experimental drug does not work. But Ivermectin does notwithstanding your recent JAMA study. Personal experience with early treatment is important.

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IVM + Zinc works.

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Plus a broad spectrum antibiotic, plus D3, plus an anti-coagulant (even aspirin!), plus Hydroxychloroquine, plus a Medrol dosepak, plus Vitamin C, plus Fluvoxamine, plus melatonin, plus Quercitin.

If the person has Covid and they are getting bad fast you gotta throw “the kitchen sink” at ‘em, just like they did with Trump at Walter Reed in October 2020. For an old, obese guy he got over it pretty damn fast!

It isn’t about the IVM. Studies are showing it is the combination of IVM with all the other re-purposed drugs that does the trick:

https://brownstone.org/articles/early-outpatient-treatment-for-covid-19-the-evidence/

Americans should just tell their doctors if they get Covid: “I will have what the doctors at Walter Reed gave Trump in 2020. All those meds must have been fine with “the CDC” and FDA when Trump got them!

Pfftt!

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Anything that boosts the Natural Immune Systems is useful against Covid-19.

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Shhhh. Don't tell Berenson. Your real life experience and opinion will trigger him and turn him into a cancel culture zombie.

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The JAMA study actually shows it does work. The deaths are much lower with Ivermectin. Something for whatever reason Berenson chose not to mention. In addition, the timing of this study is suspect. As a former medical negligence attorney many studies are done for only 1 purpose. To be used for what ever finding they want. No matter what side of a case you are on you can find studies to support your theory of the case:) There is only 1 way to figure out what early treatment works. You have to have a solid critical thinking ability. And you have to decide who you are going to trust. Myself, I tend to trust individuals that have everything to lose and nothing to gain. And of course have solid credentials. That automatically leaves out anyone that has connections with the pharmaceutical industry. Or anyone that is financially benefiting from pushing restrictions on Drs ability to treat patients.

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You are hallucinating again Ivermectin was, nor will it ever be used to treat covid or any form of respiratory infection disease. Again, you are searching deep in the bottom of the trash can for evidence and you are getting bad information from a bunch of fringe little rocket man.

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LOL, well, obviously your critical thinking skills lead you in a different direction:) But like I told a few close friends of mine, the people with the best critical thinking skills are going to have a longer life expectancy all things being equal. It matters not to me what conclusions you draw, I am not here to convince anyone, just give my conclusions based upon my critical thinking. It would be a fools errand to think different people are not going to reach different conclusions. Best of luck to you my friend.

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You are not living in objective reality.

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Mr Barton you and Mr Berenson are wrong.

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Dr Chetty thinks it's systemic allergy to spike protein in deep lung, not actual bacterial pneumonia in most cases of severe Covid.

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There is no such thing of early treatment for covid this is only believed by people who live a fairytale life or a fringe group.

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2 years in I’ve lost a friend to the jab and suicide. 3 are out of business, 2 failed marriages. People I know who got COVID ZEEEERRRRO!

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Your poor grammar is a dead give away. You're a troll.

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Are you being facetious? In this account alone you've been exposed to hundreds of comments of personal experiences as well as where to go to obtain information on numerous verifiable and successful preventive protocols and early treatment protocols. Every one of these professional protocols is based on unadulterated scientific information.

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Are you making a Fringe woke pie?

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Oh My. The CDC is hiding data. This is two years old. For Covid anyway - who knows about the other stuff. The NYT is worried they will be on the wrong side of history. Watching the Atlantic, Guardian, other virtue-signalling outlets changing their position. Just shows how weak journalism is. For REAL journalism I go to Substack.

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The NY Times isn't worried they'll be on the wrong side of history. They've never worried about that and never will. There's some other motive going on.

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Prob to blame Trump

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Trump has taken up permanent residence in all their heads. It's rather amusing to watch, actually.

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trump asked his supporters to get boosted. dems tried to steal credit from DJT, but trimp made the tough decision of going with mRNAs instead of regular vaxx. get boosted!!

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The election coming up??

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Probably won’t matter. Cocaine Mitch said if they win they will work diligently to meet the Dems half way to work together for the good of the country. He’s just say if it’s our country or his wife’s families country. My guess he’ll go with the wifey on that one.

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How does that piece of shit keep getting elected? Then again, that same question could be asked of 100% of the life long politicians that now slither through the halls of Congress

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And who are the people voting for him?

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Vote harvesters, I hope.

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She's from Taiwan, not China (regardless of what China thinks Taiwan is)

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When you are the paper of record you can never be on the wrong side of history. That’s the whole point.

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Right. The CDC hiding data and lying is not news. The news is that the "news" is just now getting to the newspapers who were supposed to be the first to discover and report it. Ironic - the news is making news instead of reporting the news because they refused to report the news when it was, in fact, news.

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😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

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Real journalism…

The most offensive oxymoron ever uttered since Central Intelligence Agency…

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As more and more evidence of mRNA malfeasance becomes available to....well, everyone in the world, I picture, among others the virtueheads on MSNBC, their faces dripping egg as they attempt to walk back all of the pro-covid vaccine received wisdom they've been shovelling in our direction for the past two years. "The longest journey begins with a single step." I would like to be tuned-in, when that parade steps off.

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Isn’t it funny how the science changes in a midterm election year?

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Yep, but make NO mistake, if they win, masks, lockdowns and 28 boosters will be the plan.

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Science is never settled.....before an election, only afterwards.

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That is their new thing; We are not publishing numbers anymore because they could be "misinterpreted". Or put another way, you middle class peons are so fucking stupid that you cannot read and decide for yourself. Welcome to Biden's America.

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How can we even credit the cdc for keeping honest data on the vaccinated, when most hospitals in the US have not? Even if they released their data it wouldn't be remotely close to the truth.

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And SAGE in the UK are warning about Original Antigenic Sin, a potential new variant with 35% case fatality and NPIs causing variants with a fitness advantage.

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/uk-advisers-warn-of-original-antigenic?utm_source=url

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Just as Geert Vanden Bossche warned.

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I just read your Substack article on this…WEF Inc. won’t stop until the wicked complete their evil agenda. Great article…thank you.

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But would they really release something that fatal? I always thought their m.o. was to release a rather benign virus but amp up the talk to make it seem like it was totally lethal. Slip-ups do happen and I can't see them trusting nothing will go wrong if they release something like that.

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The CDC is ignoring that the ones who have their booster shot the mortality rate is much higher than the unvaccinated in all age groups. And Fauci has a lot of explaining to do and we deserve answers. Who is going to be held accountable get your popcorn and watch them fight it out?

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Double LOL

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trump is the man. thanks to him we got mRNAs vaxx.

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I just finished listening to……. Wait for it Joe Rogan with Dr. Michael Osterholm. The take away is “ I don’t know”. He must have uttered that phrase 50 plus times! And in the next breath “ the vax works, you should get Vaxed “ It was painful to hear his non answers and true misinformation! He dodged questions and provided vagueness whenever possible. I should have expected nothing less, I believes his finding comes from NIH. Let me know if I’m incorrect on that tiny fact.

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Osterholm is a progressive tool.

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That was mostly what I took from it. "I've seen no evidence of that" was his other go to. He also push some misinformation on covid deaths in kids.

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I listened to it also. Osterholm is part of the task force and on the payroll. No different than people like Leana Wen and Peter Hotez. Their role is to flood the zone with ‘accurate’ information + profit.

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Osterholm and Joe … I found myself yelling at the computer, I disagreed quite a few times.

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I bet if you trace it back far enough you'll find it comes from Bill Gates.

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Google Michael Osterholm/Bill Gates. You’re absolutely right.

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Did Rogan buy it, or did he back him into a corner? Trying to get a sense of Rogan's position post the cancel culture attempt. Thx

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He didn't push too hard. He asked him question after question for 2+ hours,but he's trying to calm the cancel squad, so he didn't push back hard. When he did, Osterholm either acted like he knew what he was saying or played dumb.

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Close, Osterholm is dumb, and played it too well but probably gave non verbal clues to Rogan threatening to renew the calls to kill his career.

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I really don't like what Rogan is doing. Have both sides and push them. The guy that came on after the MIT's climate change expert went on for 40 minutes completely besmirching the guy with Ad Hominems and Rogan said nothing.

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Agree, but both Osterholm and the climate guy both came off as babbling idiots in comparison to their "controversial" counterparts. Both effectively and/or literally stated that they "don't know" but err on the side drastic and potentially unhealthy counter measures. They were talking on different subjects but may as well have been shilling for the same thing. Maybe Joe is just giving them enough rope...

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I guess cancel culture has infected Rogan’s brain…

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I wondered that too DividedUpWorld.

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I stopped listening when he said vaccinated are less likely to catch it and spread it and when asked for data he said I don't have it on top of my head but its substantial... So how come virus spreads like wild fire in highly vaccinated populations!???

Rogan did not push at all, just let him deliver his message. If he pushed on Osterholm and fact checked him like he did Alex Jones I wonder what would have happened? He'd get cancelled.

He was shown a stick, he John Cena-ed it (in English at least), now he is getting the carrot of staying on the air. Rogan is making hundreds of millions of dollars he will not risk losing that revenue stream.

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Funding

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I'm not trying to be a contrarian but I don't understand your fixation on wealthy Rs. Many very wealthy Ds I know here in South Carolina are also. As is roughly 80% of this country. I'm not and never will be but I need a primer on your point/points.

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Wait till 👹here tells us Covid rates are lowest in graveyards, none in Arlington Cemetery, right Eugene?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Gene is a clown.

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No, he is emblematic of the disease among us known as leftists, who live breath and defecate the horrors of decay destruction and death.

Nothing funny about that to me…

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And yet the actual real vaccine that is not mrna tech sits at the FDA like the Ark at the end of Indiana Jones. Novavax.

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It’s not the spike. It’s a protein that blocks the spike of the virus from attaching to the receptor

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It's the spike.

"NVX-CoV2373 is a subunit vaccine made from a stabilized form of the coronavirus spike protein using the company’s recombinant protein nanoparticle technology."

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/us-clinical-trial-results-show-novavax-vaccine-safe-prevents-covid-19

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Nope, sorry, novavax is an antigen based vaccine based on inserting a set amount of the spike protein into your body.

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“It’s a protein that blocks the spike of the virus from attaching to the receptor“

Sounds like Ivermectin!

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I think it is an mRNA set of instructions that essentially fool your cells into making the spike protein from the original Alpha SARS.... So as your cells start pumping out the spike protein in mass, your immune system then responds, creating antibodies galore design to gum up these proteins and prevent them from attaching to receptors on your cells. Great idea in theory, if...

- the antibody response would stay at I high enough level to create long-term protection

- the COVID virus conveniently refuses to mutate past the protection of these antibodies

Neither of these is the case, however. In fact, that second one is one that makes natural immunity far superior to vaccine induced protection. Natural immune response seems to confer different types of antibodies for different parts of the virus.. that, and it also creates long-term protection through memory B cells and killer T-cell protection. These remain long after antibodies are essentially no longer needed and you stop producing them in large numbers.

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Would the Chinese vax qualify as a vaccine here? And even if it does, who'd want a vax pass and all that comes with it?

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How can you trust those stats when it’s not a “well designed” study like the ivermectin study you glommed onto a couple days ago to trash ivermectin “fanatics” and Dr Malone?

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Right?!

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These people you are referring to are a fringe group and have zero clue about what they are talking about.

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Says the drunk-posting douche who thought Malone was a heart doctor

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I thought you said Malone is a blacksmith!

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AJB, you really need to work on your trolling if you even hope to earn a headshake or an eyeroll.

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Your mom told you to stay off her computer.

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Due to antics of the last two years I don’t pay attention to anything from any of these governmental agencies. They are just putting out nonsense. They covering up and at the same luring about all of it.

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They are going to use the data to blame Trump to win in the mid terms.

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That's their fallback position. When it becomes impossible to deny the obvious about the Covid vaccines, they'll simply do a 180 and blame Trump for it all. The hard push for vaccination will be shoved down the memory hole and all the believers watching CNN and MSNBC will hail the new Party Line, the rest of us will be dismissed as extremists and conspiracy theorists. Biden's employer vaccine mandate? Oh, that's "old news" -- live in the present, man!

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Trump is playing into it too because of his narcissism, he desperately needs to take credit for Operation Warp Speed to feed his ego, too short sighted to see the long game that this single topic will make him unpalatable in 2024.

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Rule: Never inject an unknown product with no liability developed a program called Operation Warp Speed.

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They usually point the finger at Trump but, wouldn’t that denigrate all the doctors too!

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It's all about winning elections. They have never cared about people that get hurt.

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Timing is everything.

While we're supposed to be looking at Ukraine, here comes disclosures from the CDC.

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Ding Ding Oh look, squirrel.

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Exactly!

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I just don’t get people who live in my state of Washington. They still post on Inslees Facebook page gushing reviews of how he has kept us safe. How we need to keep masking up basically forever. What are they listening to? What do they read? I have not worn a mask indoors for over a year. Some people act like I’m part of the Day of the Locust movie. You know at the end Donald Sutherland starts Pointing and screaming with eyes wide. Sheesh

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That movie with Donald Sutherland was “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”.

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Shoot , thanks

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30+% of polled Americans think Biden and Democrats are doing a wonderful job.

When crime becomes as pandemic as Covid, the support only drops because these entrenched leftist supporters are dead?

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Obesity of Red State populations.

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Tease out the Obesity data only. Political Science is not part of Medical Science. Sorry.

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Now you are changing the argument. You are talking about Old and Unhealthy and taking the politics out when I talk about New York.

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Where is the data that a death from Covid is listed by Political Identification??? Don't think that is being collected.

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So let's look at New York. Last time I looked it was a Democrat Bastion.

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Because more people already had natural immunity in NYC. You can see this clearly when you look at hospitalizations by region.

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/daily-hospitalization-summary

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New York led the Country in deaths...Even CNN said so, Bot!!!

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Because the 'leaders' in the blue states killed everybody before 2021. Look at the chart!

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Yeah, Wait till Democrats tell us it’s Trump’s fault for rushing out the vaccines, while the Dim’s keep mandating it!

Sociopaths, you folks want to be civil polite and negotiate with this relentless hate.

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They don't. Populations are neither Republican nor Democratic. What you are looking at, with these statistics, is party results by county from the last election. Democrats tend to hold more densely populated, urban environments, which have a number of features to explain the disparity, including age, availability of medical care, and a longer curve on the spread of infection. Population density, y'know.

Tons of confounding factors, it's a meaningless political prop.

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I know many a Democrat in my blue state that has Ivermectin in their medicine cabinet.

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Leftist operative projecting it’s hate and dishonesty while only commenting at sites it doesn’t have to pay for.

Wait till Eugene tells you it is a Trump Republican and then calling you white supremacists…

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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I think you are a Bot!!!!

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No, a butt, figuratively and literally, the Eugene’s love to bend over for Democrat sociopaths…

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Misogynist and TERF’er next, 👹?

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Where are you getting these numbers? You can't just look at a state or city, you would have to drill into zip codes and neighborhoods. NJ (blue) has the highest death rate, NY (blue) is high too, FL did better than those states; CA is not great. There was some deceptive article in the NYT saying Trump areas had higher death rates but it was debunked.

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When I read Berenson I get the feeling the nightmare must be ending, but then I go out in public, even here in semi-rural north Florida, and see how many still love their masks, and how little things have changed in the last year for most people and businesses. Frustrating inertia and popular apathy.

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LOL the Democratic counties sped up their curves by infecting all the at-risk at once. "Our sick were already dead by 2021" isn't the homerun you think it is.

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"Since 1/2021 Democratic counties have a lower Covid death rate than Republican counties"

This is exactly what you said, and you said it that way because the Democratic places sped up their curve and infected all the at-risk at once. We were all alive and remember. Even if we don't, we can look at your stupid little chart and see it for ourselves!

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GENOCIDE . Truth Hidden in plain sight:

Pfizer Documents Show FDA Knew of Death Risk

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-michael-yeadon-this-must-stop

mRNA "Vaccines" Are Gene Therapy. May cause Undesirable Side Effects That Could Delay Or Prevent Their Regulatory Approval According To BioNTech SEC Filing

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/mrna-vaccines-are-gene-therapy-may

The Truth About Safety of mRNA Vaccines Found in The European Medicines Agency's Document Titled "Comirnaty (COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine) Risk Management Plan"

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-safety-of-mrna-vaccines

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The whole 'misinterpreted' narrative is absolute bullshit and smoke 'n mirrors. It's egregious that the American people are letting it continue. We're the United States of America. We can provide data that is beyond misinterpretation. The bottom line is they know the data will be interpreted correctly, and THAT is what they're scared of. Every person in the world who still has the capacity to think critically and objectively should be standing on their chairs screaming right now.

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The NYT and other media are slowly moving to, “the vaccines are dangerous”, because that will be their narrative to destroy Trump, when he runs for President again.

Trump takes credit for the vaccine and the media will gladly give him the credit. Then they’ll start running vaccine injuries and death count numbers similar to what they did for COVID cases.

The media will have plenty of tragic human interest stories to tell about vaccine injured children and those that died…all in due time.

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My prediction since Trump announced OWS in May of 2020

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I’ll be watching to see if Biden uses his State of the Union to provide some positive spin on his administration’s COVID response, but also explicitly gives credit to the previous administration for the vaccine development. Then the media could run with the, “Biden the uniter is reaching across the aisle” narrative. And they will also give credit to Trump…

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Interesting...setting the table so to speak?

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I do not know, Alex.

I am sure JAMA has published studies showing the vaccine to be effective.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788104

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True that. Get the picture?

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What is the average age in The Villages? It is a retirement community..or didn’t you know that? Older people have more health problems and Covid is more dangerous for them. Even once upon a time Alex Berenson recommended older people should get vaxxed. I don’t think he recommends that anymore as the data for getting jabbed become more dangerous to your health and less effective in preventing infection.

I tend to think older people trust doctors and authorities more.

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Waiting for my upvote to this, Gene. Yes DeSantis promoted the vaccine but was careful not to mandate. He made monoclonals readily available and free throughout the State, and fought for parental rights. I don't have kids but I am moving to the Free State of Florida.

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An aged community with Money. They were doomed anyway. You can't vax your way out of Old Age. We are not designed to live forever.

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Excellent troll! Keep it up. I still can't believe that hit piece on ivermectin came from Alex.

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I can’t read what it says without paying for it. Can anyone tell me it has solid criticism so I can share this with my MD family member who worships mRNA and the NYT?

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You don't need to pay to read it. I never put paywalls. The links to all the documents are inside the articles

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I’ll check. I have my dummy email address to read their stuff when needed but apparently I reached my monthly maximum free articles.

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The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects

The agency has withheld critical data on boosters, hospitalizations and, until recently, wastewater analyses.

By Apoorva Mandavilli

Feb. 20, 2022Updated 3:46 p.m. ET

For more than a year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has collected data on hospitalizations for Covid-19 in the United States and broken it down by age, race and vaccination status. But it has not made most of the information public.

When the C.D.C. published the first significant data on the effectiveness of boosters in adults younger than 65 two weeks ago, it left out the numbers for a huge portion of that population: 18- to 49-year-olds, the group least likely to benefit from extra shots, because the first two doses already left them well-protected.

The agency recently debuted a dashboard of wastewater data on its website that will be updated daily and might provide early signals of an oncoming surge of Covid cases. Some states and localities had been sharing wastewater information with the agency since the start of the pandemic, but it had never before released those findings.

Two full years into the pandemic, the agency leading the country’s response to the public health emergency has published only a tiny fraction of the data it has collected, several people familiar with the data said.

Much of the withheld information could help state and local health officials better target their efforts to bring the virus under control. Detailed, timely data on hospitalizations by age and race would help health officials identify and help the populations at highest risk. Information on hospitalizations and death by age and vaccination status would have helped inform whether healthy adults needed booster shots. And wastewater surveillance across the nation would spot outbreaks and emerging variants early.

Without the booster data for 18- to 49-year-olds, the outside experts whom federal health agencies look to for advice had to rely on numbers from Israel to make their recommendations on the shots.

Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the C.D.C., said the agency has been slow to release the different streams of data “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.” She said the agency’s “priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it’s accurate and actionable.”

Another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted, Ms. Nordlund said.

Dr. Daniel Jernigan, the agency’s deputy director for public health science and surveillance said

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the pandemic exposed the fact that data systems at the C.D.C., and at the state levels, are outmoded and not up to handling large volumes of data. C.D.C. scientists are trying to modernize the systems, he said.

“We want better, faster data that can lead to decision making and actions at all levels of public health, that can help us eliminate the lag in data that has held us back,” he added.

The C.D.C. also has multiple bureaucratic divisions that must sign off on important publications, and its officials must alert the Department of Health and Human Services — which oversees the agency — and the White House of their plans. The agency often shares data with states and partners before making data public. Those steps can add delays.

“The C.D.C. is a political organization as much as it is a public health organization,” said Samuel Scarpino, managing director of pathogen surveillance at the Rockefeller Foundation’s Pandemic Prevention Institute. “The steps that it takes to get something like this released are often well outside of the control of many of the scientists that work at the C.D.C.”

The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly in younger adults, is among the most glaring omissions in data the C.D.C. has made public.

Last year, the agency repeatedly came under fire for not tracking so-called breakthrough infections in vaccinated Americans, and focusing only on individuals who became ill enough to be hospitalized or die. The agency presented that information as risk comparisons with unvaccinated adults, rather than provide timely snapshots of hospitalized patients stratified by age, sex, race and vaccination status.

But the C.D.C. has been routinely collecting information since the Covid vaccines were first rolled out last year, according to a federal official familiar with the effort. The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said, because they might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.

Ms. Nordlund confirmed that as one of the reasons. Another reason, she said, is that the data represents only 10 percent of the population of the United States. But the C.D.C. has relied on the same level of sampling to track influenza for years.

Some outside public health experts were stunned to hear that information exists.

“We have been begging for that sort of granularity of data for two years,” said Jessica Malaty Rivera, an epidemiologist and part of the team that ran Covid Tracking Project, an independent effort that compiled data on the pandemic till March 2021.

A detailed analysis, she said, “builds public trust, and it paints a much clearer picture of what’s actually going on.”

Concern about the misinterpretation of hospitalization data broken down by vaccination status is

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not unique to the C.D.C. On Thursday, public health officials in Scotland said they would stop releasing data on Covid hospitalizations and deaths by vaccination status because of similar fears that the figures would be misrepresented by anti-vaccine groups.

But the experts dismissed the potential misuse or misinterpretation of data as an acceptable reason for not releasing it.

“We are at a much greater risk of misinterpreting the data with data vacuums, than sharing the data with proper science, communication and caveats,” Ms. Rivera said.

When the Delta variant caused an outbreak in Massachusetts last summer, the fact that three-quarters of those infected were vaccinated led people to mistakenly conclude that the vaccines were powerless against the virus — validating the C.D.C.’s concerns.

But that could have been avoided if the agency had educated the public from the start that as more people are vaccinated, the percentage of vaccinated people who are infected or hospitalized would also rise, public health experts said.

“Tell the truth, present the data,” said Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccine expert and adviser to the Food and Drug Administration. “I have to believe that there is a way to explain these things so people can understand it.”

Knowing which groups of people were being hospitalized in the United States, which other conditions those patients may have had and how vaccines changed the picture over time would have been invaluable, Dr. Offit said.

Relying on Israeli data to make booster recommendations for Americans was less than ideal, Dr. Offit noted. Israel defines severe disease differently than the United States, among other factors.

“There’s no reason that they should be better at collecting and putting forth data than we were,” Dr. Offit said of Israeli scientists. “The C.D.C. is the principal epidemiological agency in this country, and so you would like to think the data came from them.”

It has also been difficult to find C.D.C. data on the proportion of children hospitalized for Covid who have other medical conditions, said Dr. Yvonne Maldonado, chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics’s Committee on Infectious Diseases.

The academy’s staff asked their partners at the C.D.C. for that information on a call in December, according to a spokeswoman for the A.A.P., and were told it was unavailable.

Ms. Nordlund pointed to data on the agency’s website that includes this information, and to multiple published reports on pediatric hospitalizations with information on children who have other health conditions.

The pediatrics academy has repeatedly asked the C.D.C. for an estimate on the contagiousness of

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a person infected with the coronavirus five days after symptoms begin — but Dr. Maldonado finally got the answer from an article in The New York Times in December.

“They’ve known this for over a year and a half, right, and they haven’t told us,” she said. “I mean, you can’t find out anything from them.”

Experts in wastewater analysis were more understanding of the C.D.C.’s slow pace of making that data public. The C.D.C. has been building the wastewater system since September 2020, and the capacity to present the data over the past few months, Ms. Nordlund said. In the meantime, the C.D.C.’s state partners have had access to the data, she said.

Despite the cautious preparation, the C.D.C. released the wastewater data a week later than planned. The Covid Data Tracker is updated only on Thursdays, and the day before the original release date, the scientists who manage the tracker realized they needed more time to integrate the data.

“It wasn’t because the data wasn’t ready, it was because the systems and how it physically displayed on the page wasn’t working the way that they wanted it to,” Ms. Nordlund said.

The C.D.C. has received more than $1 billion to modernize its systems, which may help pick up the pace, Ms. Nordlund said. “We’re working on that,” she said.

The agency’s public dashboard now has data from 31 states. Eight of those states, including Utah, began sending their figures to the C.D.C. in the fall of 2020. Some relied on scientists volunteering their expertise; others paid private companies. But many others, such as Mississippi, New Mexico and North Dakota, have yet to begin tracking wastewater.

Utah’s fledgling program in April 2020 has now grown to cover 88 percent of the state’s population, with samples being collected twice a week, according to Nathan LaCross, who manages Utah’s wastewater surveillance program.

Wastewater data reflects the presence of the virus in an entire community, so it is not plagued by the privacy concerns attached to medical information that would normally complicate data release, experts said.

“There are a bunch of very important and substantive legal and ethical challenges that don’t exist for wastewater data,” Dr. Scarpino said. “That lowered bar should certainly mean that data could flow faster.”

Tracking wastewater can help identify areas experiencing a high burden of cases early, Dr. LaCross said. That allows officials to better allocate resources like mobile testing teams and testing sites.

Wastewater is also a much faster and more reliable barometer of the spread of the virus than the number of cases or positive tests. Well before the nation became aware of the Delta variant, for

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So, Tiger, there it is. I wish I'd been able to post it all at once so it'd be a bit easier to read, but at least it's here for you to peruse.

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If the figures show the vaccines are ineffective, this is no misreprentation, but simply what the figures show. Whether someone likes that or not should be irrelevant. It's about science isn't it?

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It's not only CDC. It's global. They ALL hide the real figures. Statistics are completely flawed. People are kept from becoming whistleblowers with money and outright threats. This is all UN at work

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Alex, I’d love to see a deep

Dive into vaccines for kids. Last I saw, Pfizer’s definition of efficacy was simply kids showing increased level of antibodies but nothing showing prevention or diminished effects from covid. Please dig in. Thanks!

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Thanks Alex, yet again, for spreading the truth! And wondering what new shenanigans Brandon's handlers will concoct to take the spotlight off this developing, rolling, and growing truth snowball... Maybe another version of Russia, Russia, Russia...

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I'm in a politically-mixed marriage. I told my spouse a few weeks ago that if Trumps runs in 2024 then all of a sudden all the negative data about vaccines will be broadcast far and wide, and Operation Warp Speed will become an anchor to pull his candidacy down.

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It is a little dicey given the push for these "vaccines" that the Biden administration made. They tried to FORCE everyone to get the jabs. No way to blame that on Trump.

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It's already started. I've seen comments on political chats that are blaming Trump for the vaccines and the mandates.

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This is troubling. Scotland is hiding more data now too. Until they drop the 'fully vaxxed' canard, all their data is suspect. One place that is fighting the Covid proganda machine is a news site in California, the only one gutsy enough to call out Gavin Newsom, whose kids are not Covid vaxxed, while making everyone else do it. It's PressCalifornia.com

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Meh. They’re also hiding data that shows the vaccines are killing people.

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Wealthy, educated people are overall healthier, have better medical care, and are able to work from home. Poorer people have more obesity, the no. 1 severe-Covid risk factor, with 78% of all Covid hospitalizations being in the overweight or obese, per CDC.

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And all those rich people in Congress took Ivermectin and HCQ early while the proles were left to turn blue with hypoxia and die.

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Nope. It’s quite hard to come by. Most docs won’t prescribe, most pharmacies won’t fill. So you are wrong again.

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👹ling for dollars Eugene?

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No one is getting vaxxed anymore. Except the true blue believers.

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I assume you're referring to some report that includes detailed data so how about a link so that someone might be able to answer based on the data you're using.

In the meantime I recall an interview with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya saying essentially the same thing only he didn't limit it to Republicans. I remember him saying that the lower income population consists of essential workers that can't sit behind a laptop, have more people living together, are less healthy and don't have access to better healthcare.

My guess is that most Republicans are getting vaxxed for the same reason any sensible person would. They considered their age, health, risk, benefits, etc. That's why most older Americans are vaxxed regardless of politics. They are probably less likely to get vaxxed so that they can virtue signal or get a Pfizer tattoo or experiment on their 5 year old for no good reason though.

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Gene Frenkle repeats the same lie on every thread, but can't back it up with data.

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How can the CDC data have any validity when there is no real way of tracking vaccination status in the US? That's the reason that hospitals are 90% unvaccinated in the US versus 90% vaccinated in Europe. The US hospitals allegedly assign unknown status as unvaccinated.

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Especially that Mix and Match Booster...As though everything was equal...Now that is Non-Science. ;)

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Umm, The Democrats are already blaming the Republicans for causing all the ills that the Democrats have done at least since January 2021.

You folks continue to underestimate the pathological defense mechanisms by immature incompetent people, especially projection deflection and displacement, forget their pervasive denial, you folks deserve to be fucked…

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Lesbian leftist trollster killing time while recharging it’s sadistic dildo…

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You are his Republican, so, your point, liar…

👹🤣👹🤣👹🤣

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NYT and democrats (with many republicans) are evil scum. that simple

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Can we DEFUND the CDC already? And while you're at it, eliminate the NIH, NHAID, Anthony Fauci's big schnozz, and any further contribution to the WHO.

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Eliminate the FBI and the CIA while you're at it. Besides their other crimes like spying on the President, the CIA was right at the heart of creating Covid. They actually hired people from EcoHealth Alliance for gain of function "research" on coronaviruses.

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The Adverse Inference - a rule to live by.

It's a concept from trial law.

If a party has, without any good excuse, caused certain evidence to be unavailable, the judge instructs the jury to assume that the missing evidence would have painted the worst possible picture of the party responsible for the evidence loss.

I use the Adverse Inference liberally as a way of trying to figure out the truth when dealing with governments and large corporations, and it always puts me ahead of the curve. It's like magic telepathic powers.

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Do you think they could release some data about plexiglass? Sick of talking to people hiding behind it. If I owned a plexiglass company, I would love it but I don’t so let’s get rid of plexiglass.

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Most of the actual studies on plexiglass found that it worsened the chance of infection by preventing one thing that we know does work - good ventilation.

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For the people who bought into the lie my guess is that this will be internalized but not spoken about. We should have some compassion to the extent that we’ve all been played at some point in our lives. It’s a fine line but if anyone ever tries to dictate our behavior under the guise of COVID we should disregard and view them as the equivalent of a religious fanatic with some pretty significant emotional issues baked in.

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Here in Berkeley Vaccinated Covid positive cases during 2021 were 72% of total cases, and that is before making any adjustments for time and vaccine uptake. A very conservative adjustment quickly demonstrates zero efficacy in virus prevention. Why, in the “birthplace of the free speech movement” did this dumbass carpenter have to FOIA this info from the city? Should’ve been on every public health department dashboard in the US and included at the end of every article. Why? Because letting people run around thinking their vaccine is doing something is far more dangerous than almost anything else you can do! What a joke!? Berkeley, CA trades facts for scientism at the expense of the most basic human rights and medical privacy. I don’t know how I can continue to live here. Authoritarian assholes everywhere.

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Vitamin D..what a tool

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The remarkable thing is they just won't stop the grift. I just saw a commercial in WA state pushing the booster. It's gross. And worse, there are too many dumb dumbs, people we know and love, who fall for it.

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Upcoming post on substack to discuss likely the CDC info on vaxxed advantage on hospitalization/deaths overstated. Several reasons: two different JAMA studies show hosp. rates for vaxxed vs. unvaxxed actually close; multiple studies in other countries show they’re close; most importantly CDC gives “adjusted” #’s, but actual raw #’s close.

If as Alex is suggesting the CDC is intentionally hiding these numbers then the whole house of cards falls apart.

Robert Clark

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The fact is--the 'vaccines' a.k.a. poisonous jabs do NOT work. If you say they don't work you are misrepresenting the facts. Welcome to the dysfunctional world of the Marxist Democrat party. Remember the first thing Uncle Joe did was gut our once great independent fossil fuel program to now make us dependent on Russia and the Middle East. You think inflation is bad now---just wait for $7.00 a gallon gasoline. The Democrat Marxist party is doomed.

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"The Democrat Marxist party is doomed." Oh please please please let that happen soon.

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prosecutenow.com

start doing something besides reading articles.

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Alex or somebody else should simply file a freedom of information request to get this information. https://www.foia.gov/how-to.html

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The people who are responsible for this BELONG IN JAIL! How many young men/boys were harmed because "vaccines are safe and effective!" How many people suffered adverse reactions to the vaccine? How many people died because they believed they were safe from the virus because they were vaccinated. I could go on and on. ALL THESE PEOPLE caused unnecessary harm, worry, stress and death. What they have done to children for the past 2 years with masks, lack of schooling, loss of social activities, depression, etc. will take years to see the results. It is disgraceful and infuriating!!!

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Again, fuck what the vaccine and virus issues are, look at the agenda that they’re really trying to push!:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/02/21/cdc-lowers-standards-for-early-childhood-speech-development-n2603511

Now they’re going to rewrite development, and who knows what other standards they’re going to dumb down because that’s what they’re doing, they’re dumbing down humanity!!!

These motherfuckers hate us, and they want their pound of flesh, literally!!!

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Can you decipher Michael Osterholm's data on vaccine effectiveness (from JRE) and bunk or de-bunk??

I don't know if he's getting his data from published figures but I can't find them to back them up

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The lack of transparency is for our own good, doncha know?! If we weren't forced to blindly take their word for it, we might get confused by the data that showed their words are lies.

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The WEF parasites have infiltrated every major government on the planet and the global shift to authoritarianism already happened and it was rather easy

Now it’s just a question of whether people will even want any kind of liberties back and if so if they will fight for them. Right now it’s not looking good.

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I think there is still much too much navel gazing about HOW we are being poisoned by fascist billionaire profiteers. Everybody piles on every day, "did you see the latest emails from Fauci?" and "did you see the latest death figures from England?". As though someday there will be some kind of ultimate epiphany that everyone will finally be forced to acknowledge and then things will start to change.

Some have graduated to WHY we are being poisoned by fascist billionaire profiteers, WEF, GAVI, WHO, Wall St., etc. That's fine, and important, but also just a distraction.

We have already long ago answered the most important question: WHETHER we are being killed by fascist billionaire profiteers. So may I suggest the appropriate reaction: RAGE, and lots of it. In all its forms. In your little groups amongst your former friends who are now in The Cult. To your "representatives" in government. And in the streets, whenever and wherever you can. All of the good evidence and righteousness will do nothing if they mean we are still just going gently into that not-good night. The light is dying, and we all need to RAGE RAGE AND MORE RAGE. Do it as though your very *species* depended on it

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Unfortunately there are many that continue follow the vaxx propaganda. A family member has a under 5 child and proclaimed that they are vaxxing their kid as soon as it’s approved. So the child will be protected from serious illness. I was chastise by the same person about a year ago for not being vaxxed, that I was endangering people that I could get sick because I was unclean. That changed to get faxxed to prevent serious illness. So they won’t let go of the vaxx narrative and will change the narrative on why you should get the jab.

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FYI: President Joe Biden said the U.S. national emergency that was declared in early 2020 due to COVID-19 will be extended beyond March 1, citing what he called a “risk to the public health and safety.”

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Not surprising. They're clutching at straws.

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