I'm 67. I had Covid in August 2021. I took Vitamin D, Zinc, Quercetin, NAC, and other vitamins. I was pretty sick but no where near needing medical intervention. Proud to be in the 1%. No jab for me!
I'm 71 and have been doing I-mectin, zinc, D, quercetin, melatonin for two years thanks to Docs Kory and Marik @FLCCC.net, and am starting with black seed oil and honey, and food grade hydrogen peroxide gargle/nebulizing.
How about this great promise? "Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling." Psalm 91:9-10
Go under the Ivermectin heading, then to How to Get Ivermectin. There is a list of doctors who prescribe it, either in person, by phone or online.
Go under the Protocols heading, to the I-MASK+ Prevention & Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol information - there you will find specific dose recommendations for IVM and other meds and supplements. There is also a protocol for severe illness in hospital, and one for recovery. It's very thorough information, written by doctors who have successfully used these treatment protocols.
I have it and I actually took it when I was sick with covid. I gave it to my 17 yo son who also had covid . My wife ( who got both pfizer jabs) got covid also, but she didnt want to take the IVM. I just wondering what dose is rec as ongoing prophylaxis.
What was the difference, if any, of COVID's impact on each family member? Interested if IVM helped you and your son and of your wife did ok with just the vaccinebl. Thank you.
Your can do all this without Ivermectin…with the Quercetin, Zinc, Vitamin C & NAC protocols! As a prophylactic regimen to keep yourself healthy…also a clean, sugar free, low carb, plant based diet with the occasional beef, chicken & fish as a protein source to strengthen your immune system. It’s all the processed & refined food diets that is what is killing people and causing the obesity crisis!
PREVENTION: 0.2 mg/kg/dose x2/week for as long as risk is elevated.
POST EXPOSURE: 0.4 mg/kg one dose today, repeat after 48 hrs.
EARLY TREATMENT: 0.4-0.6 mg/kg 1 dose/day x 5 days or till recovered.
It's not just I/v/r though. Staying or getting healthy requires a multipronged approach that includes supplements etc. FLCCC is also not opposed to vaccines but, as we all know here, vaccines do not prevent infection, spread, or death and for anyone at this point to think vaccines alone will control this is proof of the depth of their indoctrination, or their stupidity, or both. So go to their website, sign up for updates in case they get blocked, and check out the full protocol for prevention and treatment and when to take the lower or upper dose range etc.
I print out their protocol to have on hand and update my printout as they update their protocol. When you are sick you don't want to be figuring stuff out. Be prepared. Have everything on hand. Know in advance what you are going to do if you get sick and how to do it.
I got a nebulizer and food-grade hydrogen peroxide before the media got around to demonizing it and also got prescribed i/v/r when I had symptoms that a PCR "proved" wasn't cov.
After multiple tests showed symptoms were neg I stopped testing and would just nebulize at first symptom coz H2O2 is anti-microbial so the practical approach in my non-medical opinion is to just use my Covid protocol since none of it has any real risk and I just did not want to be sick or spread ANYTHING. The nebulizing really helped. With Covid, timing is critical: got to neb early to nip it in the viral-replication bud stage.
I also use colloidal silver, my go-to for years ag any viral/bacterial infection symptoms and it's always helped.
Latest symptoms that felt viral I decided to test run my stash of I/v/r @ 12mg/dose (I'm between 50 and 55 kg), 1 dose/day x 3 days. Wanted to ensure I did not have that rare negative reaction to it. The last thing you need if you actually have covid is a negative reaction to the med you're taking to treat the covid. Since whatever I had felt like the beginnings of a viral infection and I/V/R is antiviral chances are it was going to help regardless of the exact viral strain. If nothing else, I'll have fewer parasites. LOL. I'm happy to report zero negative reaction and an incredibly impressive neutralizing of all symptoms within HOURS! Best antiviral med I've ever taken!
So happy to pass on the info of the great docs at FLCCC! With the mad censorships going on we really rely on each other to share what works. Stay well, and if tested, recover well!
Why does FLCCC recommend use of Remdesivir (page 9 on the Guide to the Management of COVID-19)? But then mentions it being harmful in other sections. I thought it was bad, period.
Good question! I had no idea they recommended Remdesevir since I have never paid attention to in-hospital treatments which are outside of my control. Could it be a failure to update their protocol, a misunderstanding, or an attempt to pick their battles? I think this is a good question to direct to the FLCCC.
Follow what LissaK wrote above; on the FLCCC website there are guidelines to calculate your weight-based dose, then recommendations for number of doses for prophylaxis, early exposure, and longer treatment/long covid
PREVENTION: 0.2 mg/kg/dose x2/week for as long as risk is elevated.
POST EXPOSURE: 0.4 mg/kg one dose today, repeat after 48 hrs.
EARLY TREATMENT: 0.4-0.6 mg/kg 1 dose/day x 5 days or till recovered.
It's not just I/v/r though. Staying or getting healthy requires a multipronged approach that includes supplements etc. FLCCC is also not opposed to vaccines but, as we all know here, vaccines do not prevent infection, spread, or death and for anyone at this point to think vaccines alone will control this is proof of the depth of their indoctrination, or their stupidity, or both. So go to their website, sign up for updates in case they get blocked, and check out the full protocol for prevention and treatment and when to take the lower or upper dose range etc.
I print out their protocol to have on hand and update my printout as they update their protocol. When you are sick you don't want to be figuring stuff out. Be prepared. Have everything on hand. Know in advance what you are going to do if you get sick and how to do it.
I got a nebulizer and food-grade hydrogen peroxide before the media got around to demonizing it and also got prescribed i/v/r when I had symptoms that a PCR "proved" wasn't cov.
After multiple tests showed symptoms were neg I stopped testing and would just nebulize at first symptom coz H2O2 is anti-microbial so the practical approach in my non-medical opinion is to just use my Covid protocol since none of it has any real risk and I just did not want to be sick or spread ANYTHING. The nebulizing really helped. With Covid, timing is critical: got to neb early to nip it in the viral-replication bud stage.
I also use colloidal silver, my go-to for years ag any viral/bacterial infection symptoms and it's always helped.
Latest symptoms that felt viral I decided to test run my stash of I/v/r @ 12mg/dose (I'm between 50 and 55 kg), 1 dose/day x 3 days. Wanted to ensure I did not have that rare negative reaction to it. The last thing you need if you actually have covid is a negative reaction to the med you're taking to treat the covid. Since whatever I had felt like the beginnings of a viral infection and I/V/R is antiviral chances are it was going to help regardless of the exact viral strain. If nothing else, I'll have fewer parasites. LOL. I'm happy to report zero negative reaction and an incredibly impressive neutralizing of all symptoms within HOURS! Best antiviral med I've ever taken!
Oh, sorry. I've been away. The amount taken is dependent on one's body weight, expressed in per kilogram of weight. Do follow Lissa and cmpalmer's directions.
The nebulizing with the The saline/food grade hydrogen peroxide is very good as a prophylactic treatment…especially if your are prone to respiratory issues! Years ago my primary care doc prescribed that course of treatment when I had the beginnings of the flu…also I did an IV Infusion of Vitamin C & the Hydrogen Peroxide at his office…two of those treatments knocked out whatever I had in a couple If days! (I too am in your age demographic and take all the supplements you mentioned. I have not had a case of flu in over 14 years! Only a sniffle here and there and I blow that out pronto! I also have an auto immune disease of the thyroid…and am never sick!)
I shared my positive experiences w it on my FB, friends only setting, unaware the media had already started their negative brandishing. A concerned friend warned me of its dangers with a link to a Pubmed article. I actually follow links to studies, wanting to know all sides, not being wedded to any position but the truth. Would you believe the pulmonologist authors concluded that their hypothesis that their asthmatic patient's lungs may have been damaged by 5 years of nebulizing H2O2 (which they discovered incidentally and wondered if THIS was the culprit) could not be validated by any other published cases of H2O2 causing damage via nebulizing? I believe there's been a century of use this way and they acknowledge they can find not another incidence of damage reported in a published study. I'm sure there are some: there's no accounting for the carelessness of irresponsible use or exceptions. But please, there's a ton of accounting of pharmaceutical harm that's never caused the kind of scaremongering headlines around nebulizing H2O2. So sick of the panic reflex that is so effective at eliminating access to useful protocols. Thanks for the positive share. That's been my experience. As my husband says, too much salt will kill you too.
My wife and I had it in Feb 2021 - mild symptoms each and she is Type 2 and some other issues. She did not need to call her doctor. Each of us lost both taste and smell (really strange) but all good now - both of us. Sorry, but this thing has an extremely high survivability rate and low incidence of hospital involvement. What is with the obscene drumbeat to vaccinate? And another little nugget - all of the big-3 "vaccines" only exist because cell-lines derived from abortions were utilized in the research. NO - not saying there are actual cells in the liquids (one of which has 24% of its volume as Not Listed), but that without the murder of babies - even decades ago - they could not have concocted this filth.
The JJ vax is brewed in big vats containing cells derived from dead babies. Before it's packaged and then shipped the cells are "removed". There have to be stray cells/human proteins in the finished product. The other two brands claim merely to use fetal cells in preliminary testing but that's enough for me to say NO.
My take on your situation - and I intend you no offense in saying this! - is that if you were nowhere needing medical intervention, you were not all that sick. Why are so many Americans so absolutely terrified of being down and out for several days, or even perhaps a few weeks, with some sort of infection? It's natural, it's part of life, it's to be expected, that we will all be sick once in a while! There is indeed such a thing as being very sick, but having a respiratory virus, or even a really bad cold (with fever, malaise, achy muscles, weakness, etc.) generally doesn't qualify.
I think it’s because of the fear and lack of education—all of the nonstop emphasis on deaths from Covid and ventilators, etc and no emphasis on the vast majority of people being “sick with cold symptoms” and getting better. The narrative has always been skewed that most people are dying from Covid, because you never hear much about the people who are having mild cases. Or when you do hear of a mild case, it’s presented as an outlier case and that person must have been “lucky” to get a mild case because “so many people are succumbing to this virus”. The media is unbelievably guilty of this skewed portrayal. Prior to Covid, how often, really, did anyone talk about their “cold”? And how sick they were? Well maybe a little , here and there how the cough lingered, etc. but now? Cold symptoms are assumed to be Covid unless you get a “Covid test” that’s negative. But those Covid tests, they’re not accurate right? So I could still have Covid...? All of the other viral infections that are around us and have been around us, no longer have an identity...When you get ill now, people wonder and assume it’s Covid. We never tested for routine viral infections before this...!? it helps emphasize how bad Covid must be...And don’t forget the average person doesn’t have a working knowledge of viruses, cross contamination, immunology, etc. So, illness=Covid=death, so everyone freaks out that their illness is a death sentence. It all makes perfect sense to me how we got here...😞
Very true. I was telling my co-worker, the one who thinks Ivermectin is "horse paste," about another co-worker we both knew who died of an "infection" after being in the hospital since March. She immediately assumed that co-worker died of Covid. I said no, that co-worker's brother posted on FB and said she died of "septic shock," and Covid does not cause "septic shock." Just because somebody is hospitalized for a lengthy period of time and dies does NOT equate to having Covid.
I had not heard that. Thank you for the clarification! I still don't think my other co-worker going into septic shock had anything to do with Covid in her particular case, however.
Part of the problem is that the media and the left, but I repeat myself, characterize getting covid as a moral failure. You didn't behave! You didn't do what we asked you to do! You're not caring about others! I think many more loud voices on the left HAVE had this, but they won't own up to it.
I agree! It's the Western way-- the institutionalization of medicine and the pushing of doctors as gods who do no wrong (hopefully we have shed THAT belief) has resulted in take a pill " medicine. The lack of personal responsibility in our health and many other areas-- child care, education etc. corresponds to the corporatization of every aspect of our functioning in todays society. And we wonder why this Plandemic has been successful?
I'm not American, 44yo, with a 9- and a 2-year-old little boy and feel equally panicky about getting sick. I had a stupid cold recently and was fretting about having covid and dying, leaving my kids motherless. It's ridiculous, especially considering I'm one of the more "awake" people but yet..
Make sure to stock up on all the vitamins and supplements listed in the FLCCC website (vit D3-K2, C, Quercetin, Zinc, NAC, vit A, etc.) And make sure that your vit D level (blood lab) is between 60-80), and you'll be fine.
I'm fretting about my family and friends who got the vaxx dying from it, though I tell myself no, that won't happen, I just read too many Substacks ... I worry about the elderly ones getting Covid as well, but the vax could be a ticking time bomb. No one knows anything, yet the push to boost and reboost.
I'll tell you what I've concluded after two years of reading about covid: the very best thing you can do is stomp on it fast and don't let the virus get dug in. That's what the ivermectin is good for that first day of symptoms such as fever. Covid is survivable but still a filthy bioweapon engineered to hurt people. Nothing to play around with
The truth is that we know a tremendous amount about SARS-CoV-2, COVID, (the disease that SARS-CoV-2 causes) the covid poison injections (aka "vaccines,") etc.!
Your post sounds as though you are captive to the overwhelming, all-pervasive government official narrative. Everything that you see and hear on the entire mainstream / corporate media (which includes NPR and PBS) regarding covid is nothing but blatant lies and propaganda. I realize that it's difficult to even begin to comprehend this, if you've been accustomed to accepting that what they say is true for your entire life.
I suggest you read Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s recently published book: The Real Anthony Fauci.
Did you read my post? I said I was worried about people dying from the vax and that we know nothing about the vax. I said I was also worried about my elderly relatives getting Covid (they are also obese--one is in her 90s--giving her a 94% chance of survival). But they are in a low-Covid area and don't go out much. I do not fall into what you describe at all, lol, quite the opposite, I'm sure we agree on all or most points. I'm already reading that book, thanks.
Exactly. People have gotten sick like this in the past, and all they have said when they got better was, "Hey, there's a really nasty flu bug going around this year, I had it and was in bed for several days." They don't act like, "Oh no, we're all gonna DIE!"
Because the Fear Porn worked. Also why not take preventative safe meds and vitamins to improve natural immunity and hopefully prevent a serious illness? I hope we can at least agree that Civic can be serious, if not life threatening, to the elderly (me) and those with co-morbidities.
Hey Buffy, I'm 67, unvaxxed, beat covid in September 2021! We must've caught the same wave of Delta. I used horse paste, Zpak, zinc, D3, C and quercetin. I think the horse paste and Zpak were very helpful. I'll never take those shots.
None of them do-- regardless of what people say about Polio or Typhoid or Small Pox. Try basic hygiene/water supply betterment, see what was going on in the times these illnesses presented. Very interesting. It is not caused by one thing and never "cured" by one thing.
We know someone who lost their firstborn son at 29. No health issues - non-drinker and non-smoker. Two weeks after second shot - collapsed at work and never regained full conciousness. Never opened eyes again and only could squeeze parents' hands a few times and then they had to turn the machines off. Listed as "Cardiac Failure". He was an organ donor but they only took the eyes. The other normally used organs were all deemed "Unsuitable" and they were noted to have "failed".
That is utterly heart rending. Our unvaxxed eldest son is presently recuperating from covid, spending his quarantine at home with us (we have natural immunity). The thought of losing him to these disgusting shots is unbearable. He's climbing out fast with horse paste and vitamins.
And if its a pandemic then the first that should be vaccinated are the illegal imminents and refugees pouring into the country. If its a pandemic why is it selective forced vaccination with the WH CDC FDA WHO NIH Congress Pfizer J&J Moderna all exempt. Do they carry exemption cards when traveling or entering restaurants? Its outrageous
A co-worker of mine who is paranoid about All Things Covid told me that her sister-in-law "was taking that horse paste, you know the stuff that's for horses and cats and dogs? Well, she fainted and they found out she had Covid, and the next day her husband died of Covid, and now she has to live the rest of her life with the knowledge that she killed her husband because she was taking horse paste and not getting the vaccine." How do you even REASON with people who think terrible things like that? I told her that there is an Ivermectin for PEOPLE that won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2015 and that her sister-in-law was not responsible for anyone's death. How sad.
“Well, she fainted and they found out she had Covid, and the next day her husband died of Covid”
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You don’t reason with that person. You have to understand that person is lying and they are lying about a serious issue right to your face.
Only a total scumbag would do that and the person you are describing is a total scumbag. You have to recognize that.
20% of the population is always pure evil. That’s how the Nazis happened. Under normal circumstances you only find out who is horrible when something specific happens and you realize
“That person betrayed me.”
Thankfully, COVID is exposing all of the reprehensible people all at once. It’s a great screening mechanism.
You don't have to reason...just start asking them questions...so was her husband taking the horse paste? :P Does she know that ivm is on the NIH list as a covid treatment? Just gotta have fun w/ people like that.
Humble ppl with integrity know that every day is a gift and that living with gratitude is the only way that works, you must protect that gift with time away from the crazies. Ppl strangled with fear of death and fear of everything will cut you to the bone and drain your spirit if allowed. It's biblical and Jesus modeled it for us to understand. Someone gave me the example of a drowning victim, they'll take you under and drown you if you don't know how to approach it.
I've taken the horse paste numerous times and the dog form(because the damned pharmacies caused a price spike on the cheap human form!)...until I realized I wasn't gonna die from covid and to quit drinking the koolaid of fear.
Not enough info (in the US) to make this conclusion. In the 65+ cohort, approx 200K are unvaccinated. If you believe Fraudci, the deaths could easily come from this group. If think it's important that, even if intuitively we know that the vax is not preventing deaths (at least, not nearly as effectively as Fraudci claims), we don't misuse the stats (intentionally or otherwise) in the same way that NIH and CDC (intentionally) do. Having said that, it's worth noting that Rochelle Walensky has admitted (on TV) that the CDC's calculations of % deaths attributed to the unvax'd includes all deaths starting 1/1/21 when no one was vax'd. If you include Jan - Mar (when only a fraction of the population was fully vax'd), it will clearly show that the majority of deaths were unvax'd....figures lie and liars figure...
Interesting occurrence with some close friends of mine: they came back from a family Thanksgiving and 8 of the 12 at the gathering caught the good ‘ol fashioned Delta Coof (congestion, no taste, exhausted). They told me all of the 8 were vaxxed. I don’t know about the 4 who they say are ok, and it would be rude of me to ask.
I didn't say that at all. I simply said that there's isn't enough accurate info in the US (unlike the UK's weekly PHE report) to draw useful conclusions about which cohort is contributing to the mortality rate. There's plenty of debate as to whether even the deaths attributed to COVID is accurate. So, before we start calling each insane, can we just have civil conversation around the facts? When people start using words like "insane", it reminds me of the rants from woketards who can't handle any dissenting opinions...
Bottom line is that OUR statistics contradicting THEIR statistics doesn’t prove they are lying.
But when THEIR statistics contradict THEIR assertions then it proves they are lying.
I understand you are very sensitive to people using their statistics.
It was pretty clear that I was not using their statistics as a basis for an empirical assessment. I was using their statistics to prove they are lying.
I'd have to confirm, but I believe Italy recently revised their estimates of the first wave from 120K(?) down to...sth like 4k. And the CDC has been accused of manipulating COVID death rates all along. Not sure I would use the word "fake" but maybe "highly manipulated". Rochelle Walensky has admitted on TV that the aggregate number of unvaccinated deaths includes the entire year (2021). I guess my point here is that any stats for the US (regardless of your POV) are really suspect - we just don't have transparent data. But the UK does (at least for the moment). The weekly PHE analysis does indeed show that, in the 50+ cohort, a disproportionate number of hospitalized patients are fully vax'd. But even then, the counter-argument I always get is that of course there are so many vax'd patients - there are so many vax'd people.
Re "mis-use', what I'm trying to suggest is that those of us on this of the argument need to be squeaky clean with irrefutable analysis - it's just too easy for the woke to dismiss any evidence that the vax's don't work.
The Italy thing was reported by a sceptical journalist, but I do not think that the government actually reduced the numbers, so ultimately that falls into misusing statistics, albeit, unwittingly.
The UK data shows a huge percentage of doubly vaccinated people falling ill and dying when compared to the unjabbed, BUT; when they then post the comparative rates per 100,000, the unjabbed somehow turn out to be the higher percentages of at risk. So the PHE data is more complete, but still as muddy and confusing.
I also believe the data is wrong but that’s why I use THEIR incorrect data to prove the insanity of the assertions that they are making.
So yeah they come back with
“But more of them are vaccinated.”
That’s why you just come back at them with their own data and show that they are basically claiming Ebola death numbers for the unvaccinated IF Ebola was airborne AND more contagious than smallpox.
Always use their numbers.
I always play on their terms because that’s how you corner them.
Obviously I have to use their numbers to debunk their claims in this case.
If they’re claiming it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated and ALSO claiming that the deaths are coming from a highly vaccinated group, then they’re clearly lying.
If you think the ‘4700 deaths from COVID in 65+‘ number is fake then that’s a totally separate issue.
Obviously the entire point of my original post was that it’s impossible for that many deaths to come from such a tiny group. So where are the misused stats?
He said “it’s important we don’t misuse stats in the same way…”
That's the magic of Enron accounting standard that applies to Federal pricing and reporting models. Look for a *footnote buried somewhere explaining the gymnastics figures do to achieve the result and gove a hat tip to K Street's top buck lobbyists who devise these "innovative" methods for making straight counting into a kaleidoscope image.
7,244 died of COVID the week ending 10/30. Of that number, 4720 were over 65…….but 99% of people over 65 are vaccinated.
If it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated, how are 65% of the deaths coming from a cohort that is 99% vaccinated?
I'm 67. I had Covid in August 2021. I took Vitamin D, Zinc, Quercetin, NAC, and other vitamins. I was pretty sick but no where near needing medical intervention. Proud to be in the 1%. No jab for me!
I'm 71 and have been doing I-mectin, zinc, D, quercetin, melatonin for two years thanks to Docs Kory and Marik @FLCCC.net, and am starting with black seed oil and honey, and food grade hydrogen peroxide gargle/nebulizing.
Thanks, Fauci. NOT!!
More people should be taking vitamins and taking care of themselves. Opposed to a simple solution of deadly shots that have long-term Ramifications.
Thanks for the reminder--I'd forgotten to take my vitamins this morning.
How about this great promise? "Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling." Psalm 91:9-10
Did you mean,Foulchi, David? Doesn’t that spelling come closer to the reality of the man?
"Feces" will do.
how much ivermectin do you take every day.? once a week. What do you think is the best way to dose it.
Go here: https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Go under the Ivermectin heading, then to How to Get Ivermectin. There is a list of doctors who prescribe it, either in person, by phone or online.
Go under the Protocols heading, to the I-MASK+ Prevention & Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol information - there you will find specific dose recommendations for IVM and other meds and supplements. There is also a protocol for severe illness in hospital, and one for recovery. It's very thorough information, written by doctors who have successfully used these treatment protocols.
I have it and I actually took it when I was sick with covid. I gave it to my 17 yo son who also had covid . My wife ( who got both pfizer jabs) got covid also, but she didnt want to take the IVM. I just wondering what dose is rec as ongoing prophylaxis.
They have a protocol for prevention, early treatment, and hospital care...
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
What was the difference, if any, of COVID's impact on each family member? Interested if IVM helped you and your son and of your wife did ok with just the vaccinebl. Thank you.
Your can do all this without Ivermectin…with the Quercetin, Zinc, Vitamin C & NAC protocols! As a prophylactic regimen to keep yourself healthy…also a clean, sugar free, low carb, plant based diet with the occasional beef, chicken & fish as a protein source to strengthen your immune system. It’s all the processed & refined food diets that is what is killing people and causing the obesity crisis!
I did this but the prescription was $170.00! I can't afford that so I am SOL!
Look at my above post…there’s a way to handle it prophylactically with supplements!
Quercitin, Zinc, Vitamin C, Vitamin D3 & NAC.
Thanks so much for this link, LissaKay! You rock!
Thank you!
FLCCC protocol (V.18 updated Oct 2021) I-Mask I/v/r (taken w/after food):
PREVENTION: 0.2 mg/kg/dose x2/week for as long as risk is elevated.
POST EXPOSURE: 0.4 mg/kg one dose today, repeat after 48 hrs.
EARLY TREATMENT: 0.4-0.6 mg/kg 1 dose/day x 5 days or till recovered.
It's not just I/v/r though. Staying or getting healthy requires a multipronged approach that includes supplements etc. FLCCC is also not opposed to vaccines but, as we all know here, vaccines do not prevent infection, spread, or death and for anyone at this point to think vaccines alone will control this is proof of the depth of their indoctrination, or their stupidity, or both. So go to their website, sign up for updates in case they get blocked, and check out the full protocol for prevention and treatment and when to take the lower or upper dose range etc.
I print out their protocol to have on hand and update my printout as they update their protocol. When you are sick you don't want to be figuring stuff out. Be prepared. Have everything on hand. Know in advance what you are going to do if you get sick and how to do it.
I got a nebulizer and food-grade hydrogen peroxide before the media got around to demonizing it and also got prescribed i/v/r when I had symptoms that a PCR "proved" wasn't cov.
After multiple tests showed symptoms were neg I stopped testing and would just nebulize at first symptom coz H2O2 is anti-microbial so the practical approach in my non-medical opinion is to just use my Covid protocol since none of it has any real risk and I just did not want to be sick or spread ANYTHING. The nebulizing really helped. With Covid, timing is critical: got to neb early to nip it in the viral-replication bud stage.
I also use colloidal silver, my go-to for years ag any viral/bacterial infection symptoms and it's always helped.
Latest symptoms that felt viral I decided to test run my stash of I/v/r @ 12mg/dose (I'm between 50 and 55 kg), 1 dose/day x 3 days. Wanted to ensure I did not have that rare negative reaction to it. The last thing you need if you actually have covid is a negative reaction to the med you're taking to treat the covid. Since whatever I had felt like the beginnings of a viral infection and I/V/R is antiviral chances are it was going to help regardless of the exact viral strain. If nothing else, I'll have fewer parasites. LOL. I'm happy to report zero negative reaction and an incredibly impressive neutralizing of all symptoms within HOURS! Best antiviral med I've ever taken!
Excellent information, Maria! Thank you.
So happy to pass on the info of the great docs at FLCCC! With the mad censorships going on we really rely on each other to share what works. Stay well, and if tested, recover well!
Why does FLCCC recommend use of Remdesivir (page 9 on the Guide to the Management of COVID-19)? But then mentions it being harmful in other sections. I thought it was bad, period.
Good question! I had no idea they recommended Remdesevir since I have never paid attention to in-hospital treatments which are outside of my control. Could it be a failure to update their protocol, a misunderstanding, or an attempt to pick their battles? I think this is a good question to direct to the FLCCC.
Awaiting David Otness' replay, as I have the same questions.
Follow what LissaK wrote above; on the FLCCC website there are guidelines to calculate your weight-based dose, then recommendations for number of doses for prophylaxis, early exposure, and longer treatment/long covid
Thanks!
FLCCC protocol (V.18 updated Oct 2021) I-Mask I/v/r (taken w/after food):
PREVENTION: 0.2 mg/kg/dose x2/week for as long as risk is elevated.
POST EXPOSURE: 0.4 mg/kg one dose today, repeat after 48 hrs.
EARLY TREATMENT: 0.4-0.6 mg/kg 1 dose/day x 5 days or till recovered.
It's not just I/v/r though. Staying or getting healthy requires a multipronged approach that includes supplements etc. FLCCC is also not opposed to vaccines but, as we all know here, vaccines do not prevent infection, spread, or death and for anyone at this point to think vaccines alone will control this is proof of the depth of their indoctrination, or their stupidity, or both. So go to their website, sign up for updates in case they get blocked, and check out the full protocol for prevention and treatment and when to take the lower or upper dose range etc.
I print out their protocol to have on hand and update my printout as they update their protocol. When you are sick you don't want to be figuring stuff out. Be prepared. Have everything on hand. Know in advance what you are going to do if you get sick and how to do it.
I got a nebulizer and food-grade hydrogen peroxide before the media got around to demonizing it and also got prescribed i/v/r when I had symptoms that a PCR "proved" wasn't cov.
After multiple tests showed symptoms were neg I stopped testing and would just nebulize at first symptom coz H2O2 is anti-microbial so the practical approach in my non-medical opinion is to just use my Covid protocol since none of it has any real risk and I just did not want to be sick or spread ANYTHING. The nebulizing really helped. With Covid, timing is critical: got to neb early to nip it in the viral-replication bud stage.
I also use colloidal silver, my go-to for years ag any viral/bacterial infection symptoms and it's always helped.
Latest symptoms that felt viral I decided to test run my stash of I/v/r @ 12mg/dose (I'm between 50 and 55 kg), 1 dose/day x 3 days. Wanted to ensure I did not have that rare negative reaction to it. The last thing you need if you actually have covid is a negative reaction to the med you're taking to treat the covid. Since whatever I had felt like the beginnings of a viral infection and I/V/R is antiviral chances are it was going to help regardless of the exact viral strain. If nothing else, I'll have fewer parasites. LOL. I'm happy to report zero negative reaction and an incredibly impressive neutralizing of all symptoms within HOURS! Best antiviral med I've ever taken!
Thanks for this--and good for your results.
Oh, sorry. I've been away. The amount taken is dependent on one's body weight, expressed in per kilogram of weight. Do follow Lissa and cmpalmer's directions.
Thanks!
The nebulizing with the The saline/food grade hydrogen peroxide is very good as a prophylactic treatment…especially if your are prone to respiratory issues! Years ago my primary care doc prescribed that course of treatment when I had the beginnings of the flu…also I did an IV Infusion of Vitamin C & the Hydrogen Peroxide at his office…two of those treatments knocked out whatever I had in a couple If days! (I too am in your age demographic and take all the supplements you mentioned. I have not had a case of flu in over 14 years! Only a sniffle here and there and I blow that out pronto! I also have an auto immune disease of the thyroid…and am never sick!)
I've heard only good outcomes for the HP nebulizing and the antioxidant IVs
I can testify as to their efficacy and the outcomes they provide!
I shared my positive experiences w it on my FB, friends only setting, unaware the media had already started their negative brandishing. A concerned friend warned me of its dangers with a link to a Pubmed article. I actually follow links to studies, wanting to know all sides, not being wedded to any position but the truth. Would you believe the pulmonologist authors concluded that their hypothesis that their asthmatic patient's lungs may have been damaged by 5 years of nebulizing H2O2 (which they discovered incidentally and wondered if THIS was the culprit) could not be validated by any other published cases of H2O2 causing damage via nebulizing? I believe there's been a century of use this way and they acknowledge they can find not another incidence of damage reported in a published study. I'm sure there are some: there's no accounting for the carelessness of irresponsible use or exceptions. But please, there's a ton of accounting of pharmaceutical harm that's never caused the kind of scaremongering headlines around nebulizing H2O2. So sick of the panic reflex that is so effective at eliminating access to useful protocols. Thanks for the positive share. That's been my experience. As my husband says, too much salt will kill you too.
You go (keep on keepin' on!) grrrrl!
My wife and I had it in Feb 2021 - mild symptoms each and she is Type 2 and some other issues. She did not need to call her doctor. Each of us lost both taste and smell (really strange) but all good now - both of us. Sorry, but this thing has an extremely high survivability rate and low incidence of hospital involvement. What is with the obscene drumbeat to vaccinate? And another little nugget - all of the big-3 "vaccines" only exist because cell-lines derived from abortions were utilized in the research. NO - not saying there are actual cells in the liquids (one of which has 24% of its volume as Not Listed), but that without the murder of babies - even decades ago - they could not have concocted this filth.
Hey! I’m 70, my moms 94… were doing fine- in the 1% !! Yayyy lol
The JJ vax is brewed in big vats containing cells derived from dead babies. Before it's packaged and then shipped the cells are "removed". There have to be stray cells/human proteins in the finished product. The other two brands claim merely to use fetal cells in preliminary testing but that's enough for me to say NO.
My take on your situation - and I intend you no offense in saying this! - is that if you were nowhere needing medical intervention, you were not all that sick. Why are so many Americans so absolutely terrified of being down and out for several days, or even perhaps a few weeks, with some sort of infection? It's natural, it's part of life, it's to be expected, that we will all be sick once in a while! There is indeed such a thing as being very sick, but having a respiratory virus, or even a really bad cold (with fever, malaise, achy muscles, weakness, etc.) generally doesn't qualify.
I think it’s because of the fear and lack of education—all of the nonstop emphasis on deaths from Covid and ventilators, etc and no emphasis on the vast majority of people being “sick with cold symptoms” and getting better. The narrative has always been skewed that most people are dying from Covid, because you never hear much about the people who are having mild cases. Or when you do hear of a mild case, it’s presented as an outlier case and that person must have been “lucky” to get a mild case because “so many people are succumbing to this virus”. The media is unbelievably guilty of this skewed portrayal. Prior to Covid, how often, really, did anyone talk about their “cold”? And how sick they were? Well maybe a little , here and there how the cough lingered, etc. but now? Cold symptoms are assumed to be Covid unless you get a “Covid test” that’s negative. But those Covid tests, they’re not accurate right? So I could still have Covid...? All of the other viral infections that are around us and have been around us, no longer have an identity...When you get ill now, people wonder and assume it’s Covid. We never tested for routine viral infections before this...!? it helps emphasize how bad Covid must be...And don’t forget the average person doesn’t have a working knowledge of viruses, cross contamination, immunology, etc. So, illness=Covid=death, so everyone freaks out that their illness is a death sentence. It all makes perfect sense to me how we got here...😞
Very true. I was telling my co-worker, the one who thinks Ivermectin is "horse paste," about another co-worker we both knew who died of an "infection" after being in the hospital since March. She immediately assumed that co-worker died of Covid. I said no, that co-worker's brother posted on FB and said she died of "septic shock," and Covid does not cause "septic shock." Just because somebody is hospitalized for a lengthy period of time and dies does NOT equate to having Covid.
They've been calling sepsis deaths 'covid19' also since the get-go.
I had not heard that. Thank you for the clarification! I still don't think my other co-worker going into septic shock had anything to do with Covid in her particular case, however.
Part of the problem is that the media and the left, but I repeat myself, characterize getting covid as a moral failure. You didn't behave! You didn't do what we asked you to do! You're not caring about others! I think many more loud voices on the left HAVE had this, but they won't own up to it.
I agree! It's the Western way-- the institutionalization of medicine and the pushing of doctors as gods who do no wrong (hopefully we have shed THAT belief) has resulted in take a pill " medicine. The lack of personal responsibility in our health and many other areas-- child care, education etc. corresponds to the corporatization of every aspect of our functioning in todays society. And we wonder why this Plandemic has been successful?
I'm not American, 44yo, with a 9- and a 2-year-old little boy and feel equally panicky about getting sick. I had a stupid cold recently and was fretting about having covid and dying, leaving my kids motherless. It's ridiculous, especially considering I'm one of the more "awake" people but yet..
Make sure to stock up on all the vitamins and supplements listed in the FLCCC website (vit D3-K2, C, Quercetin, Zinc, NAC, vit A, etc.) And make sure that your vit D level (blood lab) is between 60-80), and you'll be fine.
I'm fretting about my family and friends who got the vaxx dying from it, though I tell myself no, that won't happen, I just read too many Substacks ... I worry about the elderly ones getting Covid as well, but the vax could be a ticking time bomb. No one knows anything, yet the push to boost and reboost.
I'll tell you what I've concluded after two years of reading about covid: the very best thing you can do is stomp on it fast and don't let the virus get dug in. That's what the ivermectin is good for that first day of symptoms such as fever. Covid is survivable but still a filthy bioweapon engineered to hurt people. Nothing to play around with
The truth is that we know a tremendous amount about SARS-CoV-2, COVID, (the disease that SARS-CoV-2 causes) the covid poison injections (aka "vaccines,") etc.!
Your post sounds as though you are captive to the overwhelming, all-pervasive government official narrative. Everything that you see and hear on the entire mainstream / corporate media (which includes NPR and PBS) regarding covid is nothing but blatant lies and propaganda. I realize that it's difficult to even begin to comprehend this, if you've been accustomed to accepting that what they say is true for your entire life.
I suggest you read Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s recently published book: The Real Anthony Fauci.
Did you read my post? I said I was worried about people dying from the vax and that we know nothing about the vax. I said I was also worried about my elderly relatives getting Covid (they are also obese--one is in her 90s--giving her a 94% chance of survival). But they are in a low-Covid area and don't go out much. I do not fall into what you describe at all, lol, quite the opposite, I'm sure we agree on all or most points. I'm already reading that book, thanks.
Exactly. People have gotten sick like this in the past, and all they have said when they got better was, "Hey, there's a really nasty flu bug going around this year, I had it and was in bed for several days." They don't act like, "Oh no, we're all gonna DIE!"
Because the Fear Porn worked. Also why not take preventative safe meds and vitamins to improve natural immunity and hopefully prevent a serious illness? I hope we can at least agree that Civic can be serious, if not life threatening, to the elderly (me) and those with co-morbidities.
Hey Buffy, I'm 67, unvaxxed, beat covid in September 2021! We must've caught the same wave of Delta. I used horse paste, Zpak, zinc, D3, C and quercetin. I think the horse paste and Zpak were very helpful. I'll never take those shots.
How much?
I take that stuff every day. And the horse paste once a week. Worked so far.
How much?
For the horse paste? I use the dosage recommendations on the flccc.net website. For my weight it works out to about six or seven doses per tube.
Good for
You. I take the same regimen everyday. Had Covid once at age 54. Very mild
We’ve had it and survived but my daughters are still being required to take “it” to keep their jobs at Nike.
Heh! I'm over 65, not shot. So glad I finally made it into the 1%!
Typical elitist one percenter rubbing it in our faces.
😂😂
Hey I've waited 68 years to finally be in the top 1% of something, I think I should be able to crow about it.
You earned it! And it's the only 1%er group I admire!
😊
Hey I'm over 65, had covid, recovered, no shot and doing great. I'm part of the 1% also!!!
me, too!!
Me also. I wasn’t even that sick. In fact I packed boxes because we were getting ready to move!
Good job Mary, I see how you feel I’m 64 stay strong👍
I'm 74, live in the free state of Florida, and will never get this Vax or any other Vax.
Don't look now---but vaccines don't work.
None of them do-- regardless of what people say about Polio or Typhoid or Small Pox. Try basic hygiene/water supply betterment, see what was going on in the times these illnesses presented. Very interesting. It is not caused by one thing and never "cured" by one thing.
I’m 69, I live in FL. Even if I lived in a blue state, no way will I ever take that poison.
We know someone who lost their firstborn son at 29. No health issues - non-drinker and non-smoker. Two weeks after second shot - collapsed at work and never regained full conciousness. Never opened eyes again and only could squeeze parents' hands a few times and then they had to turn the machines off. Listed as "Cardiac Failure". He was an organ donor but they only took the eyes. The other normally used organs were all deemed "Unsuitable" and they were noted to have "failed".
Did the parents file a VAERS report? Or the attending physician who pronounced him dead?
Interesting that they only took the eyes-- tells you everything.
Terribly sad.
That is utterly heart rending. Our unvaxxed eldest son is presently recuperating from covid, spending his quarantine at home with us (we have natural immunity). The thought of losing him to these disgusting shots is unbearable. He's climbing out fast with horse paste and vitamins.
May God console the parents of that man.
How much "horse paste?"
Blue state residents here, no to the shot! My whole family says NO!!!!
And if its a pandemic then the first that should be vaccinated are the illegal imminents and refugees pouring into the country. If its a pandemic why is it selective forced vaccination with the WH CDC FDA WHO NIH Congress Pfizer J&J Moderna all exempt. Do they carry exemption cards when traveling or entering restaurants? Its outrageous
“Illegal imminents”. Priceless!
Well it is “ imminent “ that they are illegal.
Meant immigrants
Well, I’d call it a perfect Freudian slip
Yep! A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother...
LOL! Love that! I'm going to try to remember that one.
LOL!
Does anyone have an updated list of who is exempt. Like above?
A co-worker of mine who is paranoid about All Things Covid told me that her sister-in-law "was taking that horse paste, you know the stuff that's for horses and cats and dogs? Well, she fainted and they found out she had Covid, and the next day her husband died of Covid, and now she has to live the rest of her life with the knowledge that she killed her husband because she was taking horse paste and not getting the vaccine." How do you even REASON with people who think terrible things like that? I told her that there is an Ivermectin for PEOPLE that won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2015 and that her sister-in-law was not responsible for anyone's death. How sad.
“Well, she fainted and they found out she had Covid, and the next day her husband died of Covid”
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You don’t reason with that person. You have to understand that person is lying and they are lying about a serious issue right to your face.
Only a total scumbag would do that and the person you are describing is a total scumbag. You have to recognize that.
20% of the population is always pure evil. That’s how the Nazis happened. Under normal circumstances you only find out who is horrible when something specific happens and you realize
“That person betrayed me.”
Thankfully, COVID is exposing all of the reprehensible people all at once. It’s a great screening mechanism.
You don't have to reason...just start asking them questions...so was her husband taking the horse paste? :P Does she know that ivm is on the NIH list as a covid treatment? Just gotta have fun w/ people like that.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/?fbclid=IwAR09VQYd7DS5LgLoY9_ohUykXeoKU1sX1LewJC1aEIO6Xg7ycUNh03J669U
Or that the person is an idiot.
You know, I think each of us is responsible for our own ignorance. Period. Sounds like your co worker has her work cut out for her.
Exactly
Humble ppl with integrity know that every day is a gift and that living with gratitude is the only way that works, you must protect that gift with time away from the crazies. Ppl strangled with fear of death and fear of everything will cut you to the bone and drain your spirit if allowed. It's biblical and Jesus modeled it for us to understand. Someone gave me the example of a drowning victim, they'll take you under and drown you if you don't know how to approach it.
The "horse paste" is exactly the same medication that is used by humans, only the dosage is different because horses are large than people.
I've taken the horse paste numerous times and the dog form(because the damned pharmacies caused a price spike on the cheap human form!)...until I realized I wasn't gonna die from covid and to quit drinking the koolaid of fear.
I told her that. She still wants to believe it's just a "dewormer for animals and I don't trust it."
Not enough info (in the US) to make this conclusion. In the 65+ cohort, approx 200K are unvaccinated. If you believe Fraudci, the deaths could easily come from this group. If think it's important that, even if intuitively we know that the vax is not preventing deaths (at least, not nearly as effectively as Fraudci claims), we don't misuse the stats (intentionally or otherwise) in the same way that NIH and CDC (intentionally) do. Having said that, it's worth noting that Rochelle Walensky has admitted (on TV) that the CDC's calculations of % deaths attributed to the unvax'd includes all deaths starting 1/1/21 when no one was vax'd. If you include Jan - Mar (when only a fraction of the population was fully vax'd), it will clearly show that the majority of deaths were unvax'd....figures lie and liars figure...
Interesting occurrence with some close friends of mine: they came back from a family Thanksgiving and 8 of the 12 at the gathering caught the good ‘ol fashioned Delta Coof (congestion, no taste, exhausted). They told me all of the 8 were vaxxed. I don’t know about the 4 who they say are ok, and it would be rude of me to ask.
“In the 65+ cohort, approx 200K are unvaccinated. If you believe Fraudci, the deaths could easily come from this group.”
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LOL no. 4300 deaths *per week* could not come from a group of 200k. The entire cohort would be dead in 10 months.
You’re basically saying that without the vaccine the entire 65+ population “could easily” be wiped out by COVID in less than a year.
That’s potentially the most insane thing I’ve read on the internet.
I didn't say that at all. I simply said that there's isn't enough accurate info in the US (unlike the UK's weekly PHE report) to draw useful conclusions about which cohort is contributing to the mortality rate. There's plenty of debate as to whether even the deaths attributed to COVID is accurate. So, before we start calling each insane, can we just have civil conversation around the facts? When people start using words like "insane", it reminds me of the rants from woketards who can't handle any dissenting opinions...
Bottom line is that OUR statistics contradicting THEIR statistics doesn’t prove they are lying.
But when THEIR statistics contradict THEIR assertions then it proves they are lying.
I understand you are very sensitive to people using their statistics.
It was pretty clear that I was not using their statistics as a basis for an empirical assessment. I was using their statistics to prove they are lying.
Do you get it now?
So your claim of “misusing statistics” was aimed at the ‘4700 per week COVID deaths in the over 65 group’ number that I cited, correct?
You think that number is fake then?
(4300 was a typo it’s 4700 per the CDC)
I'd have to confirm, but I believe Italy recently revised their estimates of the first wave from 120K(?) down to...sth like 4k. And the CDC has been accused of manipulating COVID death rates all along. Not sure I would use the word "fake" but maybe "highly manipulated". Rochelle Walensky has admitted on TV that the aggregate number of unvaccinated deaths includes the entire year (2021). I guess my point here is that any stats for the US (regardless of your POV) are really suspect - we just don't have transparent data. But the UK does (at least for the moment). The weekly PHE analysis does indeed show that, in the 50+ cohort, a disproportionate number of hospitalized patients are fully vax'd. But even then, the counter-argument I always get is that of course there are so many vax'd patients - there are so many vax'd people.
Re "mis-use', what I'm trying to suggest is that those of us on this of the argument need to be squeaky clean with irrefutable analysis - it's just too easy for the woke to dismiss any evidence that the vax's don't work.
The Italy thing was reported by a sceptical journalist, but I do not think that the government actually reduced the numbers, so ultimately that falls into misusing statistics, albeit, unwittingly.
The UK data shows a huge percentage of doubly vaccinated people falling ill and dying when compared to the unjabbed, BUT; when they then post the comparative rates per 100,000, the unjabbed somehow turn out to be the higher percentages of at risk. So the PHE data is more complete, but still as muddy and confusing.
Well yes and this is kinda my whole point.
I also believe the data is wrong but that’s why I use THEIR incorrect data to prove the insanity of the assertions that they are making.
So yeah they come back with
“But more of them are vaccinated.”
That’s why you just come back at them with their own data and show that they are basically claiming Ebola death numbers for the unvaccinated IF Ebola was airborne AND more contagious than smallpox.
Always use their numbers.
I always play on their terms because that’s how you corner them.
Obviously I have to use their numbers to debunk their claims in this case.
If they’re claiming it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated and ALSO claiming that the deaths are coming from a highly vaccinated group, then they’re clearly lying.
If you think the ‘4700 deaths from COVID in 65+‘ number is fake then that’s a totally separate issue.
The CDC makes the claim that it's a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" by using data all the way back from January...when most people were unvaccinated. Laura Ingraham has a clip of CDC director Walensky admitting it here: https://video.foxnews.com/v/video-embed.html?video_id=6266738894001&ref=twitter.com
Sorry, 4700 deaths *per week*
Read better. That was Mengelfaucis insinuation, not Imincognito
Obviously the entire point of my original post was that it’s impossible for that many deaths to come from such a tiny group. So where are the misused stats?
He said “it’s important we don’t misuse stats in the same way…”
Okay than where were the “misused stats”?
The comment makes no sense.
That's the magic of Enron accounting standard that applies to Federal pricing and reporting models. Look for a *footnote buried somewhere explaining the gymnastics figures do to achieve the result and gove a hat tip to K Street's top buck lobbyists who devise these "innovative" methods for making straight counting into a kaleidoscope image.
So it’s like mark-to-market accounting except this time time it’s for mortality data. Awesome.
Maybe they can find a way to bundle them together the make Collateralized Death Obligations and Morbid Backed Securities.
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smartest guys in the room
LOL
B/c it's all total BS. You can thank the worthless corrupt american news media for this unmitigated disaster.
The media and Fauci are but the puppets. Bill Gates is the puppeteer.