I don’t normally vent publicly about bad customer service or personal experiences, but JetBlue just canceled the flight I am on less than 75 minutes before it was scheduled to depart. We’d already cleared security. No warning. Not only did they not apologize, not only have they not apologized, they haven’t even announced the cancellation.
This is a one- or two-flight daily route. According to JetBlue’s website, there are no alternatives tonight. There are no alternatives tomorrow. There are no alternatives Sunday. A line of more than 100 people is waiting to rebook on flights that don’t exist.
The weather in New York is perfect. There is no excuse for this.
I have never had an airline do this before. I have flown JetBlue for almost 25 years - they’re based in New York City and I can remember when they started. I will NEVER NEVER fly them again. This is a vacation for which we’ve already booked and spent money we won’t get back. It’s lousy, but we can live with it. What about people who HAVE to get home to see a sick relative or once-in-a-lifetime event like a wedding?
that too I think. I read a notice some time ago, where 3 pilots were grounded at once (I think they were military but still...) and I also read that in London last year they had to call up unjabbed pilots on home time because the jabbed ones were not able to fly.
Because the main stream media is in cahoots with our government. The truth is slowly leaking out. Our military members are suffering because of the covid "vaccine" mandates.
I just discovered that to view the message above from LTC Theresa Long via my link above you have to be a member of the Telegram group because it is in a private group or channel. I apologize for the confusion.
Please go to the link below to view the entire Defeat the Mandates Rally in Downtown Los Angeles held on April 10th. It is 8 hours long. You can view a message from US Marine Corps Pilots at 7:31:31. LtCol Theresa Long's message can be viewed at 7:47:20. My husband and I are former Marines. Semper fi! Everyone please stand strong.
I just discovered that to view the message from LTC Theresa Long via my link you have to be a member of the Telegram group because it is in a private group or channel. I apologize for the confusion.
Please go to the link below to view the entire Defeat the Mandates Rally in Downtown Los Angeles held on April 10th. It is 8 hours long. You can view a message from US Marine Corps Pilots at 7:31:31. LtCol Theresa Long's message can be viewed at 7:47:20. My husband and I are former Marines. Semper fi! Everyone please stand strong.
Did JetBlue have a vaccine mandate? Delta and United ended their mandates. American never had one and Southwest had to end theirs when their pilots staged a "sick-out".
Welcome to the age of scarcity? Welcome to the USA becoming a 3rd world country.
This isn't just the airlines. It's everywhere. From my observation, a lot of it is a) computer systems, designed to eliminate humans, that haven't been properly tested and are unable to handle it when something happens that's not normal, and b) humans that haven't been adequately trained by their employers.
In my view the Judge's candidacy and confirmation is true real racism. Her supporting Senators were most interested in the color of her skin and that she is a woman, as many of us define a woman. I heard President Trump at a rally say something like, "Judge Jackson will not define (or explain) what the word "woman" means, yet she is now going to be asked to define (or explain) what the Founding Fathers meant when writing the US Constitution. " To me this reduces the Judge's candidacy to only considering superficial traits, not her merit as a lawyer and Judge. I think the democrats demeaned Judge Jackson. It was like they did not feel she could be accepted for her legal expertise. Thank you concerned citizen for speaking out for legal experts of any skin color or gender. You do a service to all candidates by pointing out this patronizing behavior by her so called "protectors". Many citizens don't want this nominating based on race and gender, but many are afraid to speak up. Thank you for your courage, C.C.
It's not racism. Clearly she is pro-trans and pro-pedos, which is likely the main reason why she was chosen. Her skin color was used to pander to and appease Black American women to make sure we vote for Dems this fall.
The funny thing is, she married into Paul Ryan's family, so she's no different than any other "elite" doing donors bidding.
It might be considered racism in that Uncle Joe announced prior to his choice that he would be choose a BLACK WOMAN as his next SC justice. Announcing that you are making a choice based upon race and gender is racism. Had he not made the prior announcement, it would not have been racist, but he revealed his requirements before making the choice. No white male candidates need apply.
I’m not black, but I think it’s sad that the achievement of the previous black Supreme Court justices downgraded because they weren’t female. And I’m a female. But I don’t use my sexual organs to think.
They have a PILOT shortage. Period. It's happening frequently. If they can't get a qualified flight crew "just in time", you're out of luck. Happened to my wife 10 days ago at LAX!
Same happened to my sister flying to ATL from Ft Lauderdale last wk. It was a cheap flight on Frontier. so I got online to find her another flight. Can you say cost prohibitive!!! She finally got home 2 da later on Delta for $238. She said weather was the issue. ATL was fine that day! I told her pilot shortage!
She wants to go to Hawaii. I told her she's nuts! After this experience, she has no more desire for travel. It's a shame! I travelled a lot for business and did international travel for yrs. She was home raising kids. It's understandable she wants to travel but not in this environment!
May I suggest you read about Pete Buttigieg's father, Joe B. on pp. 18 and 19 in Michael Knowles' book Speechless. Joe buttigieg, Pete's father , President of the International Gramsci Society. Apparently, Mussolini imprisoned Antonio Gramsci, the alleged Communist instigator to give Gramsci time to write, Prison Notebooks. (2011 translated into English) So Pete's father worked to keep Gramsci's opinions open to a flourishing audience. Read SPEECHLESS an extremely educational text for understanding anti democratic society views, in my opinion.
Avian Bird Flu hitting Wisconsin and killing them on the chicken farms. Has also spread to the wild bird population. I do not think it is a coincidence, do you?
They want people to not travel by plane> Part of their climate change agenda. Make it too expensive, too inconvenient, what ever . Can't drive much either because of the cost of gas . All a part of changing our behavior - limiting our freedom
If you’re not vaccinated, traveling to Hawaii is quite the hassle. We went in early March and had to jump through many hoops to be allowed on the islands! Not to mention the extra costs incurred to prove we’re not lepers….
It may be a pilot shortage but it doesn’t explain why every single JetBlue flight is now late. I was flying from Ft Myers and checked flight history: for the last two weeks every flight was late by hours There is no explanation other than we are a third world country now. And it is just the beginning. Let’s see where we go from here.
When the "scamdemic" hit. Lots of senior pilots went for early retirement. Due to lack of business, the industry wasn't hiring and so it created a shortage. Flight schools right now are cranking out pilots like crazy. I just hope it doesn't cause an "incident"? The kids are good, but they're being rushed thru.
The first thing they should do is raise the mandatory age requirement by 2 years which would elevate the extreme shortage. Their MOST experienced pilots. They are all required to have a full medical every 6 months. They could also make it so if a pilot is over 65, (say 67) he flies with a pilot under 50, etc.
The federal employee mandate was just upheld. Since pilots are under FAA regulation I would bet they just walked out. There are 10 pilots involved in a law suit challenging mandates and masks etc.
I hope that is the reason. We need more of that, in EVERY sector, to end all this madness. It may make things inconvenient for a while, but be better in the long run.
I’m retired from American Airlines after 35 years. When I left several years ago, just the slightest change in fuel could alter the course of an airline overnight, or a grounding of a jet, or a pilot picket line. But today there are so many multiple conflicts in the industry, I feel that they are overwhelmed with problems. Add to that mandates, air rage, zero meals when flying coast to coast. I wonder if they aren’t dissolving before our eyes. It’s tragic and mostly all preventable under a better political climate.
Add to this every airline is constantly offering early retirement to get rid of the highest paid with most bennies. So many left due to mandates, working conditions etc that can’t hire enough back to keep up. I’m flying in a month and nervous about getting stranding on the return. Our health can’t take the stress now.
I agree so much of what we’re going through didn’t have to happen. But the bleeps who wanted this are still in charge. They do want this, I’m convinced. After all, you first must destroy before you can build back. Better? Maybe for those running the shit show. All the damage is downstream from their lives.
As a JetBlue Pilot, I would like to apologize. You have kept me sane the past 1.5 years and I loved Pandemia also. Please reconsider, we are short of all employees, not just pilots. No excuse, just working hard to get staffed up. No one wants to work since they get paid more to stay home on the sofa! Let’s Go Brandon!
I thank you sir! The same is happening with law enforcement. I was able to retire after 23 years, my bf just got terminated (fired) after 17 years. We were both deputy sheriffs. We both refused to test/get jabbed. We know of one deputy that is paralyzed on his left side and another who has died in his sleep…both healthy. I worked with both of them for years…extremely sad times. Keep God CLOSE sir!
So sorry for your loss (colleagues and jobs). It seems we're losing more folks in the sectors we can least afford to (nurses, doctors, law enforcement, pilots, truckers, teachers, etc). What happened to them being "essential"?
I believe that's changing, as I don't think there are any more stimulus checks coming in the mail. And I think minimum wage pays more than unemployment. So, we'll see what happens.
I for one am glad you’re venting. People need to know. America is a failed experiment. This is one more nail in the coffin. This flight situation is bad everywhere and they’re lying to us as to why.
You are wrong. Republicans & Democrats are the same. Trump did nothing. America has been in decline for at least 20 years. It is now the elites vs. serfs. You wait and see what happens when the dollar crashes. You will remember this conversation.
Trump showed everyone how easy it is to make things good. He was fought by virtually everyone. They hated how good he was at making decisions. Trump showed us how bad the left is. How evil they are.
🙌 Preach! --- "They," including RINOs did everything humanly possible to make him fail. To make everything hard for him and the country. To not let anything he did pass. I hated them for it then, I hate them for it now. Mitch McConnell is a traitor IMO. That man needs voted off the planet. Jealousy isn't a pretty thing in life and especially not in politics.
I understand because the hate for Trump was so over the top. I believe he couldn’t be “trusted” as an outsider to the permanent political class, and because he seemed to care about ordinary Americans. I do wonder if he knows a few things they don’t feel comfortable about.
To be fair, the party not in power does that to every president. But yes, I'd say the Dems (and their lapdog media) went to the max extreme with Trump. I often wonder if the partisan "fighting" is all just theater, to keep us distracted from what's happening behind the curtain, where those with the REAL power operate.
Trump did plenty! He revealed how corrupt our entire political system is (left and right) and accomplished things I never thought possible! Now we have to watch in horror as this illegitimate and agenda driven administration destroys our country right before our eyes:(. I do agree that both sides (left and rhinos) are at fault and I too am worried about inflation and the dollar. What a mess!
Sad to say I agree that both parties are a problem. The fact that we have had the most outlandish, radical things pushed through & the only answer is “gee, can’t do anything until we are back in power.”
It’s impossible to believe there is nothing that can be done. Right now.
It helps me to know others on this thread are trying to document what was actually said and when. I really appreciate help with finding the recorded statements.
I find a lot at fault with Trump, but I am truly amazed how much he got done in the political situation he had of all the career politicians being against him. If Biden asks for something unreasonable, the Supreme Court decides to meet him halfway. Like these mandates. If Trump asked for something quite reasonable, the Supreme Court felt no compunction against denying it. Courts, bureaucrats, FBI & CIA, politicians, media outlets were all fighting him with all their might. So I think it was pretty remarkable how much good he still did.
Some elites are worse than others. And I doubt it’s possible to get rid of elites altogether. I think history shows that pretty clearly, in spite of communistic wet dreams. Some people just want to run things, and sometimes they can be trusted to do so relatively honestly. Most ordinary people just want to get on with their lives. Sometimes they can do so without worrying too much about what the elites are up to. Not now. IMO American elites have gotten away with so much for so long they became especially emboldened. As Americans wake up to the true situation, they also are getting a wake up call. Nobody is invincible forever.
Yes, and I think we are the lucky ones witnessing the end of the American empire. Although IMO, ordinary Americans were largely not aware, by choice possibly, of the extent of American global hegemony. I just don’t think we thought of ourselves as an empire, even though that was the reality 1946-2016. We mistook being lucky for being good - or more precisely, some concluded we were just better than everyone else. Exceptional was the word.
When the dollar crashes, hopefully most people will have moved their money into DeFi. And when that results in the collapse of the whole corrupt centralized banking system (and technocracy), WE will be the elites, and THEY will be the serfs. Okay, maybe a bit hyperbolic, but they'll definitely lose much of their power and control (hence, their desperate attempts to promote CBDC to a gullible/naive public).
Different times demand different choices. I refuse to fly domestically unless for emergency. My last flight was in 2019. If enough people make choices like mine, hopefully it will reduce air traffic and help resolve what you are experiencing.....or not. For me, seeing the country and being a road warrior is not a hardship. I detest being sandwiched in between halitosis and obesity inside a cylindrical Petri dish. Costs me time but helps my serenity.
My last flight was 2006 when they chose my 6 year old daughter for special security check at the gate. It was a Southwest cattle call flight and we were in Group A. By the time they finished wanding her, patting her down, checking her backpack and my suitcase, we boarded with Group C. Never again.
My last flight was 2001 for my father's funeral. Decided never to let TSA maul me again. And now who wants to fly with vaxxed pilots who may keel over at any minute. I suppose they have redundancy. But no thanks.
No doubt. But as you are well aware, it goes beyond the cramped quarters, its being shouted at by TSA agents, groped and generally herded to your gate and then, you get to wear a mask. Nope. I am all done with that shite.
Yep. I don't care if I never fly again. It was plenty bad enough when one maniac made it such that you have to take off your shoes at security. And the airlines stuck themselves with daggers by insisting on mandating their employees. The information was out there. The airline CEOs that mandated the clotshots all should have known how dangerous it was. And if I return to flying I will never board a United flight ever again.
My last flights were in 2019 also; to Rome and Athens. Ah, the good ol' days of freedom. Hope to get back to Europe some day (love the food, people, culture & history), when all the lunatics currently in power are long gone.
You can stop flying JetBlue, but you’ll most likely experience similar events at other airlines. Covid brought many early retirements, and airlines are trying to do very close to the same amount of flying today that they did pre covid, except with far fewer pilots. As an airline pilot who recently went through training to fly a different type of airplane (typically one month of time for this training) I can tell you, it’s not just pilots that are short staffed and underworked. Instructors are overworked due the attempt to hire as many pilots as soon as possible. Mechanics are short staffed. Flight attendants are short staffed. This doesn’t even speak to ramp workers, schedulers, gate agents, dispatchers (who handle the flight planning), etc. Then you add in the shortage of contractors that do cleaning, catering, fueling and cancellations are just going to happen unless you reduce the number of flights for sale. You can do this by raising ticket prices to cut demand, but then you’ll probably have congressional hearings over the high prices. It’s all insanity. The airlines are trying to hire for all of these positions, but specifically for a pilot, you are looking at up to 3 months to go from new hire to fully ready to fly an airplane with paying passengers. Many of the pilots now being hired at larger carriers, (JetBlue, American, southwest, United, delta, Alaska etc) are coming from the regional airlines. And those regional airlines simply cannot find enough replacements due to the fact that there isn’t a big enough interest in young people becoming pilots, mainly due to the huge cost to get the training, and the historically low entry level pay. It just doesn’t make a lot of financial sense. Also there aren’t as many military pilots as there used to be. The pilot shortage has been an issue for awhile, but the resurgence in demand post COVID has magnified it. I could go on in much more detail, but don’t have the time.
and NOT one perp held to account in all of it. Not ONE! How many athletes, pilots ordinary people have been devastated by these crimes against humanity and yet not ONE perp as of April 8, 2022 has remotely been held to account. How is it possible?
so MUCH outrage, but not ONE person held responsible. The issue is the utter lack of accountability. I call it ZERO accountability. Fauci just this morning was winking at us as if he has not a care in the world. ZERO accountability!
wish I had the HOPE for N2 as you do. I know its been constantly "talked" about and mentioned, but have seen very very little actual accountable enforcement to date. Yes yes I know it takes time, buttttt. Hoping you are RIGHT!
My wife and I are in travel management. It’s not just this carrier. It is ALL of them. Every single one will claim that COVID has them behind the number of pilots and attendants they need. What a crock. It is all about butts in seats on most profitable flights.
Since JetBlue is based in NYC, I thought it was likely they had a vaccine mandate - their website says "The vast majority of our crewmembers have already received the COVID-19 vaccine." I would think that is true of pilots. But based on so much that I have been reading, people who had the vaccines are having numerous serious side effects and increased risk of premature death. A while back I read about an airline that was known to have had deaths among multiple pilots, unusual since pilots have to be in good health to fly, and these pilots did have good health until dying unexpectedly somewhat after receiving vaccines. Could it be that vaccinated pilots at JetBlue have had vaccine related adverse effects that have kept them from flying? I have patients who have become disabled after receiving the vaccine. There has also been concern as to whether a vaccinated pilot may have a heart attack or stroke in the air, since the vaccines are associated with blood clots which can in turn cause heart attacks or strokes. Southwest pilots protested the vaccine mandates and pretty much won, but most airlines have coerced the vaccine, making the skies less safe in my opinion. I don't plan to fly anywhere for the forseeable future, for numerous reasons. The government could change what they require for Covid at any time, and there is no way to know what specifically will be required if I book now for a flight 2 months from now - like what will be required in the way of masking, texting, vaxxing, etc. - plus who knows about the pilots? Since the pilots have been required to vax and many have. In my opinion, driving is good, and unless the relatives are in Alaska or Hawaii, driving is possibly the best option. I don't have any plans to travel out of the country until things settle down a whole lot more, and perharps never, too crazy.
I know two people that this happened to. The flights they were eventually able to get were not the same airline, involved several stops and was double the cost.
Same thing is happening in the UK. They’re saying crew/ airport staff shortages due to covid but we stopped free testing here last week and tbh I’m not buying it. I think it’s more likely that flights were sold at prices that now aren’t worth them taking off for because fuel is short supply/ too expensive. Also it’s part of the bigger ‘WEF’ plan. We are also having fuel shortages at the pumps in the UK because of “climate protesters” blocking the tanks leaving the depots. Again I think there’s something fishy going on and wouldn’t be surprised if the protesters are crisis actors or it’s a set up. It’s all about disruption and the dismantling of society. Watch out for the power cuts this fall/ winter and food shortages.
Or may be the passenger count was not enough to justify the flight. So they simply canceled it. In Alex's case, the fact that there are only two flights a day indicates that the route is not well traveled. Probably not enough showed interest and the airlines figured they can afford to lose a customer or two after they ran the calculations. So they saved the fuel for another day.
In Boston today, they were using facial recognition devices for flights to Ireland and no tickets on phones, only airport -issued paper tickets were valid, a last-minute proviso for the flight. Border agents were present. Is there something afoot we're not yet aware of?
This is very common w Jet blue recently happened to my brother in law and family last weekend. It also happened to a friend a month ago and her pilot mentioned issues with 5G being part of it. Something along the lines of certain planes can’t operate without apparatus that they cant use due to the new 5G bandwidth they released in late January. Its more than this though must be a pilot shortage. So sorry hope you can salvage your trip or book another one.
I vowed 10+ years ago to never, ever again fly Spirit. I've held to that. They suck. I've flown jetBlue once or twice a year for the past 15 years. No serious complaints.
If they acquire Spirit, jetBlue will also be #DeadToMe.
Who did Southwest buy, ValuJet‘s successor (can’t remember the name), and absorb them into Southwest with no discernible degradation of Southwest quality? So yeah, perhaps jetBlue can fix what ails, at least what in my eyes ails, Spirit.
Yah, $25 is just their opening bid. By the time they're done nickel-and-diming you to death, they're no better than most, and, their service and equipment suck.
Nope, I don't get people complaining about dirt cheap airlines, so what if they charge you for bringing luggage. A decade+ ago it cost more than 10x to 20x more to fly. These airlines aren't supposed to still be in business any of them.
1983, ungodly expensive and that was for switching flights in Denver. So fun running from one of that place to another so as not to miss the flight we needed.
Maybe because "dirt cheap" isn't the primary consideration for some people.
And it's not that they charge you for "bringing luggage" per se, because they all do that on the cheaper fares (other than SWA). It's when they charge you to pick a seat, and they charge you for a carry-on bag, or even for a personal item. Once they're done with all that sh*t, they're no longer "dirt cheap", anyway.
"Fly us for free!!! Just pay $100 per suitcase, $100 per carry-on bag, $100 per personal item, $100 to choose your seat, and $100 more if that seat is a window or aisle seat. But our fares are free!"
As for that decade+ ago, in 2002 I flew roundtrip from Newark to Glasgow, Scotland. The fare was around $650. Two weeks ago it cost me $615 to fly one-way from San Juan to Boston.
What a bunch of bollocks, here's a trick for you, don't pay for any of the extras and you will be fine, if you don't like their check-in luggage fees and you need to bring luggage, use another airline. I love all cheap airlines all over the world. If these amazing low cost airlines hadn't existed I wouldn't have been able to travel to all these places I have been able to.
I was on my way to be at my dying father’s beside in 2015. Flight was delayed 5 hours because flight crew was on the way from LA to Newark. I begged them to find me another flight and they basically told me to pound sand. I said goodbye to my dying father while my sister held the phone to his ear. He died several minutes later. I hate all the airlines and I fly as little as possible.
I'm so sorry to hear this happened to you. That's a horrible memory for you. May God bless and keep you safe and may He make the memory fade and soften some to allow you peace.
All jokes aside, pilot’s salary/benefits/quality of life have been on a downward slope for decades. Pilot training is expensive and you usually start with the smaller airlines and they pay garbage. The military is short thousands of pilots so they are paying retention bonuses - it’s harder to poach pilots from the military- that’s been the airline’s go to for years - it’s not available right now.
No crew no flight. Don't know what your options are - they suck if they cancel for weather - they are pretty good if they cancel for mechanical reasons. Without threatening to sue, ask them about recourse
Bad weather went through the northeast recently. It will wreak havoc on schedules and pilot utilzation. Pilots are now scheduled to fly near their max allowed duty day already. When the crap hits the fan and they have to sit in a pushed back plane, or if they have to divert, they can easily run out of duty day and have to be given a legal rest period before they can fly again.
If I had a nickel for every irate passenger who stuck his head in the cockpit and basically called me a liar because of a flight delay attributed to weather, but he looked out the window and the sky was blue...
UK also having last minute cancellations, far to frequently. The excuse put out 8/4 was staff shortages over covid, they laid staff off.. what the hell did they expect 😳 it's all part of climate claptrap, isn't it.. cause the problem, that won't be rectified, blame climate, reduce travel to non-existent, blame damn Gates/Schwab.. guaranteed Elitists will continue flying, those is that special club.. of pure evil 😈
I’m an airline pilot and unfortunately it’s happening to all the major airlines. It’s a much larger picture to see. The airlines are incredibly short staffed. Crew Scheduling, gate agents, ground personnel, pilots, Flight Attendants, vaccine mandates, etc. The pay is simply not there especially for the entry level jobs. Our crew scheduling is 50/50 at home still with the option to return to work. You will call them and have 96 min hold times just to figure out your schedule. Then hear little kids in the background crying and dogs barking.. gate agents quitting mid shift because they simply don’t get paid enough to be berated by a passenger because they have to pay to check their bag that doesn’t fit. They push the pilots schedule so hard that if there is a minor delay they run out of flight duty time and or fatigue out. I’m not making any excuses for the airlines just trying to give some insight.
At every level customer service has declined across the board . Airlines, TVproviders, utilities, internet service providers, you name it all deteriorated. The least important are the consumers .
Get used to it. We're in a new world. You probably saw 2,500 flights were canceled the other day on SW. I don't foresee flying ... maybe ever again, but I'm old ... unless an absolute necessity. I know not everyone can do that. Sympathies.
*They--The Powers That Be--don’t want *Us--We The People--travelling. Haven’t you noticed? I have. Sorry for this hassle, and with kids. Sounds pretty lame.
Alaska Airlines here in Seattle is having the same issue...I wish we had a functioning media that might ask exactly HOW MANY pilots just flunked their physicals and have been grounded? The jab mandates started last fall so everyone would be coming up just about now for their re-quals. "Funny" how many airlines are "suddenly" experiencing pilot shortages...
As I recall, Alaska mandated the vax for all of their employees. That's why I will not fly them now. Most of the "majors" walked back on their mandates do to pushback from staff (except for United). United Airlines called back all of their employees they let go for refusing the vax.
Its not justJetblue. This happened to my daughter on United last week. Quite expensive to rebook on another airline to get her where she needed to be too. I suspect the airlines are being paid off to cancel flights. Its all part of the new normal/ great reset. Make travel difficult, expensive and unpredictable so the serfs stay local, stay home, stay small and most importantly controllable .
Dude I was at Logan on Thursday waiting for my Jet Blue flight to Laguardia. After 7 hours of changing gates, getting on the plane sitting for an hour, taxing, taxing back getting off, I cancelled the 4 day trip. I was told by a JetBlue employee helping me that they had no crew for the flights.
They canceled my flight Sunday morning 5 minutes before scheduled departure. They said the crew wasn’t there. It was a 7 AM flight and I got up at 4:30. It would have been nice had they announced at some point before 6:55 that they didn’t have a crew to fly the plane. They claimed bad weather so they didn’t have to pay for a hotel or additional flights. All they gave me was a $100 credit after I spent $1,100 to get home (and I got home 36 hours late). There was no apology except for an email from the CEO this week. I will never fly them again
My son is a pilot. You're dealing with fewer pilots: that were furloughed last year, found other jobs and stayed there; many more retiring as they are simply sick of the BS; short of flight attendants due to crappy pay; short of gate agents due to crappy pay, short of mechanics. So routes are being eliminated, or scaled back big tine. Soon they will have more pilots and crews, and more planes back in service, just in time for the prices to skyrocket due to rising fuel costs, so fewer travelers...
Longing for the good 'ol days, we should bring back the Eastern Shuttle model of jet travel. Eastern had hourly departures from Boston to NY and you would literally walk on the plane without a ticket. Tickets were sold while in flight. If you got to the plane and it was full, they would add service on the half-hour to catch up.
This kind of model works because the customer expectations are met and not inflated.
It is like getting a bad meal on Southwest. You are never disappointed.
It seems the best way to plan a pleasant life at this time is to depend on public transportation as little as possible. I feel for the sister who didn't travel because she felt "called" (my word) to raising her kids. Bravo to this wonderful woman. What a change from the people like President Obama who said years ago, and I paraphrase, " I would be furious if someone got my daughter pregnant and she didn't have the chance to have an abortion." I'll look it up and get the exact quote. To the beautiful sister/mother, you didn't travel and your kids felt your love for all those years. I so admire your beautiful choice. I drive til I get tired, then I do the 'navy "power snooze" in the car and drive some more. Now I'm thinking of taking up camping; how I love the US National Parks. Thank you President Teddi Roosevelt!
I found this, Nov. 30, 2011, CNN, Johnston, Pa, Health Care Town Hall, where he said he didn't want his daughters "punished with a baby." There is controversy on whether he talking about abortion, sex education or something else. Readers will need to look it up for themselves. I just looked at your youtube link. It looks like that is Nov 30, 2011 that I referred to earlier. I remember hating his comments , but not remembering them until you paraphrased them. "Punished with a baby", that was the comment.
You found the clip, I won't honor his statement with further discussion.
This is going on in the background across the airline industry. Airlines are selling seats on flights that they can't possibly operate. They do this every day. There should be a civil fine for this kind of behavior.
When you look at the number of daily cancelations across the country, on many days, hundreds of flights don't go. Mechanical cancellations, weather, and security are good excuses. All are rare. Airport congestion, route congestion, lack of staff, etc. These are poor excuses, and they are predictable.
I’m aware of so many friends and relatives that are having the same issue with cancelled flights, coupled With terrible service. This is the new normal. Poor service, cancellations, mask wearing. Now I understand why my wife doesn’t want to fly anymore.
Probably pilot shortage due to vaccine mandate
Vaccine injuries?
that too I think. I read a notice some time ago, where 3 pilots were grounded at once (I think they were military but still...) and I also read that in London last year they had to call up unjabbed pilots on home time because the jabbed ones were not able to fly.
Technically none of the jabbed pilots should be piloting an aircraft.
FAA Vaccine Policy Violates Its Own Rules, Attorneys and Doctors Say
https://m.theepochtimes.com/faa-vaccine-policy-violates-its-own-rules-attorneys-and-doctors-say_4179114.html?utm_source=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-12-28-4&utm_medium=email&est=GrdRtaZEfAGOJtkpvQSf8l2gGIMUU%2B2BWDhjBiFagEuK6ZSXCjIFeNJdVeO1GBaQAg%3D%3D
This is true for air traffic controllers as well. My son can’t even take a Sudafed for allergies—yet the jab was pushed.
Yes that’s absolutely correct ! They are impaired now ! Think
Of the tragedy and how it would be covered up !
Affidavit of Army LTC Theresa Long
https://cdn.locals.com/documents/640135/640135_px795volsujq3uf.pdf
That is worth everyone reading.
Why is this not on the news everywhere?
Because the main stream media is in cahoots with our government. The truth is slowly leaking out. Our military members are suffering because of the covid "vaccine" mandates.
A message from LTC Theresa Long:
https://t.me/c/1394879333/5655
I just discovered that to view the message above from LTC Theresa Long via my link above you have to be a member of the Telegram group because it is in a private group or channel. I apologize for the confusion.
Please go to the link below to view the entire Defeat the Mandates Rally in Downtown Los Angeles held on April 10th. It is 8 hours long. You can view a message from US Marine Corps Pilots at 7:31:31. LtCol Theresa Long's message can be viewed at 7:47:20. My husband and I are former Marines. Semper fi! Everyone please stand strong.
https://thehighwire.com/watch/
I just discovered that to view the message from LTC Theresa Long via my link you have to be a member of the Telegram group because it is in a private group or channel. I apologize for the confusion.
Please go to the link below to view the entire Defeat the Mandates Rally in Downtown Los Angeles held on April 10th. It is 8 hours long. You can view a message from US Marine Corps Pilots at 7:31:31. LtCol Theresa Long's message can be viewed at 7:47:20. My husband and I are former Marines. Semper fi! Everyone please stand strong.
https://thehighwire.com/watch/
… which is both sad and hilarious.
You forgot scary and prophesied.
Probably because they were having health problems due to the shot
long covid
Yes, many pilots cannot pass physicals after getting the jab. Heart problems.
I wonder if Alex got home yet?
Bingo. That and they’re having a slow down
Did JetBlue have a vaccine mandate? Delta and United ended their mandates. American never had one and Southwest had to end theirs when their pilots staged a "sick-out".
Funny how the big ones caved. $$$
Admin is judge shopping, on appeal they got mandate federal workers reinstated. These judges are idiots
it definitely is
lol. Well played…
Pilot & fuel shortage. Welcome to the age of scarcity.
Welcome to the age of scarcity? Welcome to the USA becoming a 3rd world country.
This isn't just the airlines. It's everywhere. From my observation, a lot of it is a) computer systems, designed to eliminate humans, that haven't been properly tested and are unable to handle it when something happens that's not normal, and b) humans that haven't been adequately trained by their employers.
WINNER. The walls are down. You saw the Supreme Court placement correct?
so very sad that she was confirmed even though I am a black american too, i know foolishness when i see it.
In my view the Judge's candidacy and confirmation is true real racism. Her supporting Senators were most interested in the color of her skin and that she is a woman, as many of us define a woman. I heard President Trump at a rally say something like, "Judge Jackson will not define (or explain) what the word "woman" means, yet she is now going to be asked to define (or explain) what the Founding Fathers meant when writing the US Constitution. " To me this reduces the Judge's candidacy to only considering superficial traits, not her merit as a lawyer and Judge. I think the democrats demeaned Judge Jackson. It was like they did not feel she could be accepted for her legal expertise. Thank you concerned citizen for speaking out for legal experts of any skin color or gender. You do a service to all candidates by pointing out this patronizing behavior by her so called "protectors". Many citizens don't want this nominating based on race and gender, but many are afraid to speak up. Thank you for your courage, C.C.
It's not racism. Clearly she is pro-trans and pro-pedos, which is likely the main reason why she was chosen. Her skin color was used to pander to and appease Black American women to make sure we vote for Dems this fall.
The funny thing is, she married into Paul Ryan's family, so she's no different than any other "elite" doing donors bidding.
It might be considered racism in that Uncle Joe announced prior to his choice that he would be choose a BLACK WOMAN as his next SC justice. Announcing that you are making a choice based upon race and gender is racism. Had he not made the prior announcement, it would not have been racist, but he revealed his requirements before making the choice. No white male candidates need apply.
Wow, I didn't know all of this. I'll check this out later when I'm not rushing to an apt. Thank you for your comments. Yes, thank you.
I’m not black, but I think it’s sad that the achievement of the previous black Supreme Court justices downgraded because they weren’t female. And I’m a female. But I don’t use my sexual organs to think.
It is so critical who we have on that supreme court and it's tragic that she will be on there. She clearly has a scary agenda.
I could puke. What a travesty.
Indeed.
What’s the implication of that, for us uninformed buffoons?
Speaking of facades, can anyone convince me that we should be calling Joe Biden "President?" If we keep it up, he is going to start believing it.
Merely more of the kakistocracy in control.
It reminds me of the book from 1970, "The Peter Principle," by Laurence J. Peter.
Don't fly to a blue state. You're just asking for trouble.
AFAIK, airlines buy futures in oil. They lock in prices months ahead of schedule. I doubt fuel shortage is an issue.
Correct
They have a PILOT shortage. Period. It's happening frequently. If they can't get a qualified flight crew "just in time", you're out of luck. Happened to my wife 10 days ago at LAX!
Same happened to my sister flying to ATL from Ft Lauderdale last wk. It was a cheap flight on Frontier. so I got online to find her another flight. Can you say cost prohibitive!!! She finally got home 2 da later on Delta for $238. She said weather was the issue. ATL was fine that day! I told her pilot shortage!
She wants to go to Hawaii. I told her she's nuts! After this experience, she has no more desire for travel. It's a shame! I travelled a lot for business and did international travel for yrs. She was home raising kids. It's understandable she wants to travel but not in this environment!
Shutting down travel is all part of the plan to destroy the US economy. Biden's following Klaus Schwab's orders.
Exactly. AOC doesn't look quite so crazy saying air flight should be eliminated.
Buttigieg loves trains.
I bet he likes a lot of things train related.
Scorched earth right there...🤣
😂🤣 I bet you're right.
May I suggest you read about Pete Buttigieg's father, Joe B. on pp. 18 and 19 in Michael Knowles' book Speechless. Joe buttigieg, Pete's father , President of the International Gramsci Society. Apparently, Mussolini imprisoned Antonio Gramsci, the alleged Communist instigator to give Gramsci time to write, Prison Notebooks. (2011 translated into English) So Pete's father worked to keep Gramsci's opinions open to a flourishing audience. Read SPEECHLESS an extremely educational text for understanding anti democratic society views, in my opinion.
Way ahead of you.
TOTALLY WORTHLESS. He is part of The Great Reset. A Jr Leader in The World Economic Forum. Along with most of the world leader’s.
Lucy, you are too kind. He is another useful idiot. Beyond worthless; he is dangerous, if anyone were to take him seriously.
The real question should be "does he breast feed?"
Lucy, Did you think I was showing support of Pete Buttigieg by suggesting you read about his Family ties to Communism?
Is he going to stand in front of one so he can get to know one up close and personal? Just wondering.
I think he's either going to pull the train or have a train pulled on him...reportedly his fave.
The Great Reset’s motto is we will own nothing and be happy!
And now a chicken shortage, lmao. 😂
Avian Bird Flu hitting Wisconsin and killing them on the chicken farms. Has also spread to the wild bird population. I do not think it is a coincidence, do you?
And chickens are easy to raise.
I wonder if that's why cooked chicken disappeared from every deli I know of two years ago.
Understand that the climate alarmists want the destruction of travel as well.
Yes that’s clear
You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy ! You’ll stay in your home if your lucky , No Travel ever !
I think so too
They want people to not travel by plane> Part of their climate change agenda. Make it too expensive, too inconvenient, what ever . Can't drive much either because of the cost of gas . All a part of changing our behavior - limiting our freedom
Limited freedom is indeed a feature not a bug. The people pushing this grand global strategy are straight up megalomaniacs.
Friends of ours got stuck in Ft Lauderdale too. Rented a car and drove back to PA since they couldn't get rebooked for 2 days.
Right now. People need to be driving. We are in the era of you may get there or you may not. Just consider yourself lucky if you get there.
And you should see the price of a Hampton Inn on the road now! In just a few months the prices have exploded!
I’m pretty sure y’all need to quit voting Democrat. They are helping No one
640 miles, one way, for me, roughly 24 gallons of gas at $5/gallon = $120. Roughly $100/day to rent car...
Well they’re trying to keep people from driving as well. That’s right out there on the agenda.
If you’re not vaccinated, traveling to Hawaii is quite the hassle. We went in early March and had to jump through many hoops to be allowed on the islands! Not to mention the extra costs incurred to prove we’re not lepers….
Good point re the vaccines! I forgot about that. We won't be taking them for sure!
It may be a pilot shortage but it doesn’t explain why every single JetBlue flight is now late. I was flying from Ft Myers and checked flight history: for the last two weeks every flight was late by hours There is no explanation other than we are a third world country now. And it is just the beginning. Let’s see where we go from here.
Maybe because they're scrambling to find pilots for every flight.
Appears Southwest does as well. What is the issue ?
When the "scamdemic" hit. Lots of senior pilots went for early retirement. Due to lack of business, the industry wasn't hiring and so it created a shortage. Flight schools right now are cranking out pilots like crazy. I just hope it doesn't cause an "incident"? The kids are good, but they're being rushed thru.
If so many pilots are graduating, pilot shortage cannot be the issue. Right?
The first thing they should do is raise the mandatory age requirement by 2 years which would elevate the extreme shortage. Their MOST experienced pilots. They are all required to have a full medical every 6 months. They could also make it so if a pilot is over 65, (say 67) he flies with a pilot under 50, etc.
I read that the industry is short 20,000 pilots.
I spoke to a SW pilot recently who said that 5 SW pilots died in the past few months, one while flying a small cessna which went down for no reason.
Yeah. "No reason."
Wow. It’s just incredible that no official body seems the least be curious about all the early deaths.
pilot shortage, huh? Hmmmm...climate change?
I am really apprehensive about the NEW pilots that will be certified to replace the experienced pilots.
Pilots are smart guys. Trained in the left brain so they can see illogical mandates for what they are.
The federal employee mandate was just upheld. Since pilots are under FAA regulation I would bet they just walked out. There are 10 pilots involved in a law suit challenging mandates and masks etc.
I hope they did just walk out, and honestly I hope they grind the airline industry to a halt until the senseless and harmful mandates are lifted.
Agreed. It may be a temporary inconvenience to us travelers, but better for everyone in the long run.
So, the FAA requires a 48 hour no fly/no safety related duty after any c19 vax. With the reinstatement of the fed mandate, there will be more of this.
The majority of people who drop dead after a shot do so within 2 days...but plenty still do within a week.
and within a month. And within several months...
I also heard possibly a sick out due to the fed mandate
I hope that is the reason. We need more of that, in EVERY sector, to end all this madness. It may make things inconvenient for a while, but be better in the long run.
I’m retired from American Airlines after 35 years. When I left several years ago, just the slightest change in fuel could alter the course of an airline overnight, or a grounding of a jet, or a pilot picket line. But today there are so many multiple conflicts in the industry, I feel that they are overwhelmed with problems. Add to that mandates, air rage, zero meals when flying coast to coast. I wonder if they aren’t dissolving before our eyes. It’s tragic and mostly all preventable under a better political climate.
I'm a family doctor and your comment could easily apply to the medical profession, thanks
Add to this every airline is constantly offering early retirement to get rid of the highest paid with most bennies. So many left due to mandates, working conditions etc that can’t hire enough back to keep up. I’m flying in a month and nervous about getting stranding on the return. Our health can’t take the stress now.
I believe Brandon's ridiculous sanctions are hurting us more than Russia.
I agree so much of what we’re going through didn’t have to happen. But the bleeps who wanted this are still in charge. They do want this, I’m convinced. After all, you first must destroy before you can build back. Better? Maybe for those running the shit show. All the damage is downstream from their lives.
As a JetBlue Pilot, I would like to apologize. You have kept me sane the past 1.5 years and I loved Pandemia also. Please reconsider, we are short of all employees, not just pilots. No excuse, just working hard to get staffed up. No one wants to work since they get paid more to stay home on the sofa! Let’s Go Brandon!
I thank you sir! The same is happening with law enforcement. I was able to retire after 23 years, my bf just got terminated (fired) after 17 years. We were both deputy sheriffs. We both refused to test/get jabbed. We know of one deputy that is paralyzed on his left side and another who has died in his sleep…both healthy. I worked with both of them for years…extremely sad times. Keep God CLOSE sir!
Thank-you for your service. We need good cops.
So sorry for your loss (colleagues and jobs). It seems we're losing more folks in the sectors we can least afford to (nurses, doctors, law enforcement, pilots, truckers, teachers, etc). What happened to them being "essential"?
God bless you and all in this horrible situation.
I believe that's changing, as I don't think there are any more stimulus checks coming in the mail. And I think minimum wage pays more than unemployment. So, we'll see what happens.
Alex you need to fly private like Hunter Biden
... fly private WITH Hunter Biden. More fun that way.
Sure, if you like drugs and hookers...
That's a fair point. Someone does as they seem to be very popular, or so I have been told.
I bet'cha he does. 😂🤣😉😋 (snark)
Welcome to the New World Order Alex.
I for one am glad you’re venting. People need to know. America is a failed experiment. This is one more nail in the coffin. This flight situation is bad everywhere and they’re lying to us as to why.
America is not a failed experiment. Leftism is.
You are wrong. Republicans & Democrats are the same. Trump did nothing. America has been in decline for at least 20 years. It is now the elites vs. serfs. You wait and see what happens when the dollar crashes. You will remember this conversation.
Trump showed everyone how easy it is to make things good. He was fought by virtually everyone. They hated how good he was at making decisions. Trump showed us how bad the left is. How evil they are.
🙌 Preach! --- "They," including RINOs did everything humanly possible to make him fail. To make everything hard for him and the country. To not let anything he did pass. I hated them for it then, I hate them for it now. Mitch McConnell is a traitor IMO. That man needs voted off the planet. Jealousy isn't a pretty thing in life and especially not in politics.
I understand because the hate for Trump was so over the top. I believe he couldn’t be “trusted” as an outsider to the permanent political class, and because he seemed to care about ordinary Americans. I do wonder if he knows a few things they don’t feel comfortable about.
Yes. He might show them for what they really are, leaches. They couldn't let him upset their gravy train.
To be fair, the party not in power does that to every president. But yes, I'd say the Dems (and their lapdog media) went to the max extreme with Trump. I often wonder if the partisan "fighting" is all just theater, to keep us distracted from what's happening behind the curtain, where those with the REAL power operate.
Not to the extent they did with Trump. Obummer was not treated that way. He was a nothing. A communist community organizer. BFHD.
Trump did plenty! He revealed how corrupt our entire political system is (left and right) and accomplished things I never thought possible! Now we have to watch in horror as this illegitimate and agenda driven administration destroys our country right before our eyes:(. I do agree that both sides (left and rhinos) are at fault and I too am worried about inflation and the dollar. What a mess!
Sad to say I agree that both parties are a problem. The fact that we have had the most outlandish, radical things pushed through & the only answer is “gee, can’t do anything until we are back in power.”
It’s impossible to believe there is nothing that can be done. Right now.
It helps me to know others on this thread are trying to document what was actually said and when. I really appreciate help with finding the recorded statements.
I find a lot at fault with Trump, but I am truly amazed how much he got done in the political situation he had of all the career politicians being against him. If Biden asks for something unreasonable, the Supreme Court decides to meet him halfway. Like these mandates. If Trump asked for something quite reasonable, the Supreme Court felt no compunction against denying it. Courts, bureaucrats, FBI & CIA, politicians, media outlets were all fighting him with all their might. So I think it was pretty remarkable how much good he still did.
If you read through the last thousand years of history, it's always the elites vs. the serfs. Some things never change.
Some elites are worse than others. And I doubt it’s possible to get rid of elites altogether. I think history shows that pretty clearly, in spite of communistic wet dreams. Some people just want to run things, and sometimes they can be trusted to do so relatively honestly. Most ordinary people just want to get on with their lives. Sometimes they can do so without worrying too much about what the elites are up to. Not now. IMO American elites have gotten away with so much for so long they became especially emboldened. As Americans wake up to the true situation, they also are getting a wake up call. Nobody is invincible forever.
It's in the nature of every Empire to inevitably fall.
Yes, and I think we are the lucky ones witnessing the end of the American empire. Although IMO, ordinary Americans were largely not aware, by choice possibly, of the extent of American global hegemony. I just don’t think we thought of ourselves as an empire, even though that was the reality 1946-2016. We mistook being lucky for being good - or more precisely, some concluded we were just better than everyone else. Exceptional was the word.
No I won’t.
I’ll be sure to remind you. You thought ‘08 was bad just wait. Buckle your britches.
08 was a piece of cake.
Anyone who says "Trump did nothing" is beyond stupid.
You lost me at “Trump did nothing”…
When the dollar crashes, hopefully most people will have moved their money into DeFi. And when that results in the collapse of the whole corrupt centralized banking system (and technocracy), WE will be the elites, and THEY will be the serfs. Okay, maybe a bit hyperbolic, but they'll definitely lose much of their power and control (hence, their desperate attempts to promote CBDC to a gullible/naive public).
I don’t doubt it.
🙌
Democrats in charge of a America is a failed experiment. Silly thing to say America is a failed experiment.
American hasn't been a failed experiment until the last 15 years. It's clear that it's being sabotaged.
American is not a failed experiment anymore than anywhere on earth. There is no utopia.
Different times demand different choices. I refuse to fly domestically unless for emergency. My last flight was in 2019. If enough people make choices like mine, hopefully it will reduce air traffic and help resolve what you are experiencing.....or not. For me, seeing the country and being a road warrior is not a hardship. I detest being sandwiched in between halitosis and obesity inside a cylindrical Petri dish. Costs me time but helps my serenity.
My last flight was 2006 when they chose my 6 year old daughter for special security check at the gate. It was a Southwest cattle call flight and we were in Group A. By the time they finished wanding her, patting her down, checking her backpack and my suitcase, we boarded with Group C. Never again.
My last flight was 2001 for my father's funeral. Decided never to let TSA maul me again. And now who wants to fly with vaxxed pilots who may keel over at any minute. I suppose they have redundancy. But no thanks.
Same here. I have taken my last flight until this BS is over
If you want more space buy a second seat.
Why not 3?
yeah well it depends, you buy 3 seats and it's still 10x cheaper than Business Class seat on a traditional airline.
No doubt. But as you are well aware, it goes beyond the cramped quarters, its being shouted at by TSA agents, groped and generally herded to your gate and then, you get to wear a mask. Nope. I am all done with that shite.
Yep. I don't care if I never fly again. It was plenty bad enough when one maniac made it such that you have to take off your shoes at security. And the airlines stuck themselves with daggers by insisting on mandating their employees. The information was out there. The airline CEOs that mandated the clotshots all should have known how dangerous it was. And if I return to flying I will never board a United flight ever again.
Sadly, additional economy seats don't buy more leg room.
My last flights were in 2019 also; to Rome and Athens. Ah, the good ol' days of freedom. Hope to get back to Europe some day (love the food, people, culture & history), when all the lunatics currently in power are long gone.
My first and last flights were in 1987.
You can stop flying JetBlue, but you’ll most likely experience similar events at other airlines. Covid brought many early retirements, and airlines are trying to do very close to the same amount of flying today that they did pre covid, except with far fewer pilots. As an airline pilot who recently went through training to fly a different type of airplane (typically one month of time for this training) I can tell you, it’s not just pilots that are short staffed and underworked. Instructors are overworked due the attempt to hire as many pilots as soon as possible. Mechanics are short staffed. Flight attendants are short staffed. This doesn’t even speak to ramp workers, schedulers, gate agents, dispatchers (who handle the flight planning), etc. Then you add in the shortage of contractors that do cleaning, catering, fueling and cancellations are just going to happen unless you reduce the number of flights for sale. You can do this by raising ticket prices to cut demand, but then you’ll probably have congressional hearings over the high prices. It’s all insanity. The airlines are trying to hire for all of these positions, but specifically for a pilot, you are looking at up to 3 months to go from new hire to fully ready to fly an airplane with paying passengers. Many of the pilots now being hired at larger carriers, (JetBlue, American, southwest, United, delta, Alaska etc) are coming from the regional airlines. And those regional airlines simply cannot find enough replacements due to the fact that there isn’t a big enough interest in young people becoming pilots, mainly due to the huge cost to get the training, and the historically low entry level pay. It just doesn’t make a lot of financial sense. Also there aren’t as many military pilots as there used to be. The pilot shortage has been an issue for awhile, but the resurgence in demand post COVID has magnified it. I could go on in much more detail, but don’t have the time.
Good information but in the future please give the carriage return some love and attention. Huge paragraphs are not easy to read.
Oh, come on. Really!?
Exactly this.
That was a pretty good synopsis with the necessary nuance. Thank you.
The pilot prob had heart palpitations.
or failed an EKG
be thankful.
better on the ground without flying than flying then hitting the ground unwanted!
I get it. But at least you GET to fly.
For those of us in Canada who remain untainted by the experimental clot shots, we are unable to board any aircraft IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!
Count your blessings.
Too many pilots dropping I suppose? Like the athletes.
and NOT one perp held to account in all of it. Not ONE! How many athletes, pilots ordinary people have been devastated by these crimes against humanity and yet not ONE perp as of April 8, 2022 has remotely been held to account. How is it possible?
Its truly incomprehensible that there is not a universal outrage over this.
so MUCH outrage, but not ONE person held responsible. The issue is the utter lack of accountability. I call it ZERO accountability. Fauci just this morning was winking at us as if he has not a care in the world. ZERO accountability!
Yes indeed so MUCH outrage and ZERO accountability, same thing in Australia.
As for Fauci, how is that guy still there?!?!
And as for Biden...WTF?!?!
Nearly 330 million people in the US...time to RISE UP!
As for Australia, I'm very sad to say, it's the home of apathy and compliancy...but maybe one day they will WAKE THE HELL UP!
USA is home to compliancy and apathy, too. Plus, down right laziness.
Just means the media is succeeding in keeping people ignorant and disinformed.
It also means that too many sheep are consuming it for breakfast, lunch, dinner and their bedtime snack.
I believe Nuremberg 2.0 is coming. There are more investigations, lawsuits and public demands for retribution, as more eyes are opened every day.
wish I had the HOPE for N2 as you do. I know its been constantly "talked" about and mentioned, but have seen very very little actual accountable enforcement to date. Yes yes I know it takes time, buttttt. Hoping you are RIGHT!
No lawyers want the work, I guess. Or...maybe they've been told to stand down, like the doctors.
More lawyers are coming on board, as more data comes out, giving them a legal leg to stand on.
Very true. Young athletes are dropping like flies!!!
The peons should not be flying anyway. You are exceeding the carbon credit limit. It’s the future.
That’s exactly where we are going
My wife and I are in travel management. It’s not just this carrier. It is ALL of them. Every single one will claim that COVID has them behind the number of pilots and attendants they need. What a crock. It is all about butts in seats on most profitable flights.
Same thing happening everywhere. All the vaxed are getting sick over and over. Constant colds flus backaches. On and on.
Since JetBlue is based in NYC, I thought it was likely they had a vaccine mandate - their website says "The vast majority of our crewmembers have already received the COVID-19 vaccine." I would think that is true of pilots. But based on so much that I have been reading, people who had the vaccines are having numerous serious side effects and increased risk of premature death. A while back I read about an airline that was known to have had deaths among multiple pilots, unusual since pilots have to be in good health to fly, and these pilots did have good health until dying unexpectedly somewhat after receiving vaccines. Could it be that vaccinated pilots at JetBlue have had vaccine related adverse effects that have kept them from flying? I have patients who have become disabled after receiving the vaccine. There has also been concern as to whether a vaccinated pilot may have a heart attack or stroke in the air, since the vaccines are associated with blood clots which can in turn cause heart attacks or strokes. Southwest pilots protested the vaccine mandates and pretty much won, but most airlines have coerced the vaccine, making the skies less safe in my opinion. I don't plan to fly anywhere for the forseeable future, for numerous reasons. The government could change what they require for Covid at any time, and there is no way to know what specifically will be required if I book now for a flight 2 months from now - like what will be required in the way of masking, texting, vaxxing, etc. - plus who knows about the pilots? Since the pilots have been required to vax and many have. In my opinion, driving is good, and unless the relatives are in Alaska or Hawaii, driving is possibly the best option. I don't have any plans to travel out of the country until things settle down a whole lot more, and perharps never, too crazy.
It’s probably due to staffing. It’s a huge problem in the hospitality industry right now. This happened last weekend on many different airlines
I work in the industry. This is happening to Southwest, Delta, JetBlue, Frontier and American that I know of. There are probably more.
I know two people that this happened to. The flights they were eventually able to get were not the same airline, involved several stops and was double the cost.
Sorry Charlie. All out of pilots.
Same thing is happening in the UK. They’re saying crew/ airport staff shortages due to covid but we stopped free testing here last week and tbh I’m not buying it. I think it’s more likely that flights were sold at prices that now aren’t worth them taking off for because fuel is short supply/ too expensive. Also it’s part of the bigger ‘WEF’ plan. We are also having fuel shortages at the pumps in the UK because of “climate protesters” blocking the tanks leaving the depots. Again I think there’s something fishy going on and wouldn’t be surprised if the protesters are crisis actors or it’s a set up. It’s all about disruption and the dismantling of society. Watch out for the power cuts this fall/ winter and food shortages.
No doubt the protests are fake. This is the world we live in.
Or may be the passenger count was not enough to justify the flight. So they simply canceled it. In Alex's case, the fact that there are only two flights a day indicates that the route is not well traveled. Probably not enough showed interest and the airlines figured they can afford to lose a customer or two after they ran the calculations. So they saved the fuel for another day.
In Boston today, they were using facial recognition devices for flights to Ireland and no tickets on phones, only airport -issued paper tickets were valid, a last-minute proviso for the flight. Border agents were present. Is there something afoot we're not yet aware of?
This is very common w Jet blue recently happened to my brother in law and family last weekend. It also happened to a friend a month ago and her pilot mentioned issues with 5G being part of it. Something along the lines of certain planes can’t operate without apparatus that they cant use due to the new 5G bandwidth they released in late January. Its more than this though must be a pilot shortage. So sorry hope you can salvage your trip or book another one.
JetBlue is getting ready to acquire Spirit Airlines so cancellations, delays, and in air fistfights will soon be the norm.
Seriously?
I vowed 10+ years ago to never, ever again fly Spirit. I've held to that. They suck. I've flown jetBlue once or twice a year for the past 15 years. No serious complaints.
If they acquire Spirit, jetBlue will also be #DeadToMe.
Or, perhaps they'll bring Spirit up to JetBlue standards.
Who did Southwest buy, ValuJet‘s successor (can’t remember the name), and absorb them into Southwest with no discernible degradation of Southwest quality? So yeah, perhaps jetBlue can fix what ails, at least what in my eyes ails, Spirit.
AirTran? Was that it?
Stop complaining, $25 flights are awesome.
Yah, $25 is just their opening bid. By the time they're done nickel-and-diming you to death, they're no better than most, and, their service and equipment suck.
Nope, I don't get people complaining about dirt cheap airlines, so what if they charge you for bringing luggage. A decade+ ago it cost more than 10x to 20x more to fly. These airlines aren't supposed to still be in business any of them.
1983, ungodly expensive and that was for switching flights in Denver. So fun running from one of that place to another so as not to miss the flight we needed.
I remember going to Miami regularly in 2010. It still costs the same.
$25? really?
Maybe because "dirt cheap" isn't the primary consideration for some people.
And it's not that they charge you for "bringing luggage" per se, because they all do that on the cheaper fares (other than SWA). It's when they charge you to pick a seat, and they charge you for a carry-on bag, or even for a personal item. Once they're done with all that sh*t, they're no longer "dirt cheap", anyway.
"Fly us for free!!! Just pay $100 per suitcase, $100 per carry-on bag, $100 per personal item, $100 to choose your seat, and $100 more if that seat is a window or aisle seat. But our fares are free!"
As for that decade+ ago, in 2002 I flew roundtrip from Newark to Glasgow, Scotland. The fare was around $650. Two weeks ago it cost me $615 to fly one-way from San Juan to Boston.
What a bunch of bollocks, here's a trick for you, don't pay for any of the extras and you will be fine, if you don't like their check-in luggage fees and you need to bring luggage, use another airline. I love all cheap airlines all over the world. If these amazing low cost airlines hadn't existed I wouldn't have been able to travel to all these places I have been able to.
I was on my way to be at my dying father’s beside in 2015. Flight was delayed 5 hours because flight crew was on the way from LA to Newark. I begged them to find me another flight and they basically told me to pound sand. I said goodbye to my dying father while my sister held the phone to his ear. He died several minutes later. I hate all the airlines and I fly as little as possible.
so sad.
I'm so sorry to hear this happened to you. That's a horrible memory for you. May God bless and keep you safe and may He make the memory fade and soften some to allow you peace.
Thank you.
The same thing is happening world wide. Welcome to Building Back Better
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/how-building-back-better-is-going?s=w
6uild 6back 6etter. Satan's bride, Klaus, says it's going fine.
All jokes aside, pilot’s salary/benefits/quality of life have been on a downward slope for decades. Pilot training is expensive and you usually start with the smaller airlines and they pay garbage. The military is short thousands of pilots so they are paying retention bonuses - it’s harder to poach pilots from the military- that’s been the airline’s go to for years - it’s not available right now.
No crew no flight. Don't know what your options are - they suck if they cancel for weather - they are pretty good if they cancel for mechanical reasons. Without threatening to sue, ask them about recourse
Bad weather went through the northeast recently. It will wreak havoc on schedules and pilot utilzation. Pilots are now scheduled to fly near their max allowed duty day already. When the crap hits the fan and they have to sit in a pushed back plane, or if they have to divert, they can easily run out of duty day and have to be given a legal rest period before they can fly again.
If I had a nickel for every irate passenger who stuck his head in the cockpit and basically called me a liar because of a flight delay attributed to weather, but he looked out the window and the sky was blue...
We all know that their pilots had to take the shot and now have the rona
Pilots are dying from the jab in the hundreds.
My God. How can I find this data on line? My brother was a pilot for Delta but I can't reach him recently...
Do a Google search with the words Stew Peters and Pilot organization
Thanks, Kevin!
UK also having last minute cancellations, far to frequently. The excuse put out 8/4 was staff shortages over covid, they laid staff off.. what the hell did they expect 😳 it's all part of climate claptrap, isn't it.. cause the problem, that won't be rectified, blame climate, reduce travel to non-existent, blame damn Gates/Schwab.. guaranteed Elitists will continue flying, those is that special club.. of pure evil 😈
We know about the athletes, "it's" affecting pilots as well.
thanks Joe Biden!! Everything is falling apart....
Check with Bill O'Reilly - he's starting a class action against Jet Blue.
I was just going to tell Alex this but you beat me to it. Same thing happened to Bill and he was pissed.
I’m an airline pilot and unfortunately it’s happening to all the major airlines. It’s a much larger picture to see. The airlines are incredibly short staffed. Crew Scheduling, gate agents, ground personnel, pilots, Flight Attendants, vaccine mandates, etc. The pay is simply not there especially for the entry level jobs. Our crew scheduling is 50/50 at home still with the option to return to work. You will call them and have 96 min hold times just to figure out your schedule. Then hear little kids in the background crying and dogs barking.. gate agents quitting mid shift because they simply don’t get paid enough to be berated by a passenger because they have to pay to check their bag that doesn’t fit. They push the pilots schedule so hard that if there is a minor delay they run out of flight duty time and or fatigue out. I’m not making any excuses for the airlines just trying to give some insight.
You forgot the FIRING VAX MANDATE. That’s why you’re short handed. Yes you are making excuses. FA
At every level customer service has declined across the board . Airlines, TVproviders, utilities, internet service providers, you name it all deteriorated. The least important are the consumers .
Get used to it. We're in a new world. You probably saw 2,500 flights were canceled the other day on SW. I don't foresee flying ... maybe ever again, but I'm old ... unless an absolute necessity. I know not everyone can do that. Sympathies.
*They--The Powers That Be--don’t want *Us--We The People--travelling. Haven’t you noticed? I have. Sorry for this hassle, and with kids. Sounds pretty lame.
Alaska Airlines here in Seattle is having the same issue...I wish we had a functioning media that might ask exactly HOW MANY pilots just flunked their physicals and have been grounded? The jab mandates started last fall so everyone would be coming up just about now for their re-quals. "Funny" how many airlines are "suddenly" experiencing pilot shortages...
As I recall, Alaska mandated the vax for all of their employees. That's why I will not fly them now. Most of the "majors" walked back on their mandates do to pushback from staff (except for United). United Airlines called back all of their employees they let go for refusing the vax.
Its not justJetblue. This happened to my daughter on United last week. Quite expensive to rebook on another airline to get her where she needed to be too. I suspect the airlines are being paid off to cancel flights. Its all part of the new normal/ great reset. Make travel difficult, expensive and unpredictable so the serfs stay local, stay home, stay small and most importantly controllable .
Dude I was at Logan on Thursday waiting for my Jet Blue flight to Laguardia. After 7 hours of changing gates, getting on the plane sitting for an hour, taxing, taxing back getting off, I cancelled the 4 day trip. I was told by a JetBlue employee helping me that they had no crew for the flights.
They canceled my flight Sunday morning 5 minutes before scheduled departure. They said the crew wasn’t there. It was a 7 AM flight and I got up at 4:30. It would have been nice had they announced at some point before 6:55 that they didn’t have a crew to fly the plane. They claimed bad weather so they didn’t have to pay for a hotel or additional flights. All they gave me was a $100 credit after I spent $1,100 to get home (and I got home 36 hours late). There was no apology except for an email from the CEO this week. I will never fly them again
It's ridiculous that everybody just gets away with bald-faced lies these days.
May I ask if this was Delta in AGS per chance?
All the airlines are doing this to save fuel. Now, if the plane isn’t completely full you may see a cancellation.
My son is a pilot. You're dealing with fewer pilots: that were furloughed last year, found other jobs and stayed there; many more retiring as they are simply sick of the BS; short of flight attendants due to crappy pay; short of gate agents due to crappy pay, short of mechanics. So routes are being eliminated, or scaled back big tine. Soon they will have more pilots and crews, and more planes back in service, just in time for the prices to skyrocket due to rising fuel costs, so fewer travelers...
Stolen elections have consequences.
Longing for the good 'ol days, we should bring back the Eastern Shuttle model of jet travel. Eastern had hourly departures from Boston to NY and you would literally walk on the plane without a ticket. Tickets were sold while in flight. If you got to the plane and it was full, they would add service on the half-hour to catch up.
This kind of model works because the customer expectations are met and not inflated.
It is like getting a bad meal on Southwest. You are never disappointed.
People's Express Boston to NY $29.00 1985, those were the days.
Loved Eastern!!! L1011
It seems the best way to plan a pleasant life at this time is to depend on public transportation as little as possible. I feel for the sister who didn't travel because she felt "called" (my word) to raising her kids. Bravo to this wonderful woman. What a change from the people like President Obama who said years ago, and I paraphrase, " I would be furious if someone got my daughter pregnant and she didn't have the chance to have an abortion." I'll look it up and get the exact quote. To the beautiful sister/mother, you didn't travel and your kids felt your love for all those years. I so admire your beautiful choice. I drive til I get tired, then I do the 'navy "power snooze" in the car and drive some more. Now I'm thinking of taking up camping; how I love the US National Parks. Thank you President Teddi Roosevelt!
Paraphrasing but it was that he didn’t want her punished with a baby...
Thank you so much. I've been trying to locate the quote and could not find it. When did he say that? have you any idea? Thank you, PW.
Nope. I’m wrong. 2008, then Senator. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jszkPtsFH-k
I’d have to go digging to find it but I’d say it was 2012-2013 when the girls were early teens.
I found this, Nov. 30, 2011, CNN, Johnston, Pa, Health Care Town Hall, where he said he didn't want his daughters "punished with a baby." There is controversy on whether he talking about abortion, sex education or something else. Readers will need to look it up for themselves. I just looked at your youtube link. It looks like that is Nov 30, 2011 that I referred to earlier. I remember hating his comments , but not remembering them until you paraphrased them. "Punished with a baby", that was the comment.
You found the clip, I won't honor his statement with further discussion.
No one should honor anything he has ever said or done.
This is going on in the background across the airline industry. Airlines are selling seats on flights that they can't possibly operate. They do this every day. There should be a civil fine for this kind of behavior.
When you look at the number of daily cancelations across the country, on many days, hundreds of flights don't go. Mechanical cancellations, weather, and security are good excuses. All are rare. Airport congestion, route congestion, lack of staff, etc. These are poor excuses, and they are predictable.
https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/
I’m aware of so many friends and relatives that are having the same issue with cancelled flights, coupled With terrible service. This is the new normal. Poor service, cancellations, mask wearing. Now I understand why my wife doesn’t want to fly anymore.
These jackasses have ruined America. Don't fly any plane without a backup or non clot shotted pilot