I realize this is clearly anecdotal, but in my office, out of 18-20 people, I’m the only one unvaccinated. Every other person in my office are “fully vaccinated.” Prior to the vaccine, only one person Got Covid. Since the start of vaccination, every other co-worker has gotten Covid. A couple have gotten it twice. plus RSV. Normal colds. Stomach bugs. Me? Nothing. Not even a sniffle. The only thing I’ve taken is daily doses of vitamins D3 and C. Quercetin and Zinc. In fact everyone I know that has been jabbed has gotten Covid.
Your immune system stands strong!! I am the only NP in my group who did not vaccinate- had to resign for that choice- and since I left -my entire team has had Covid, and some pretty bad cases.
I could tell you the same anecdote ten times over. Our church, average attendance 75 - 80. All through 2020/to fall 2021, no-one got it. Early fall - case after case, all vaxxed. All the unvaxxed - nothing. Not even a sniffle.
Until recently, I gave regular talks during the past 30 years in our synagogue on sacred text. However, because of the protocols to which all attendees are subject, I have been unable to attend services for the last few years. And I am certainly not going to wear a mask or get vaccinated in order to show up.I did give a Zoom talk on the Day of Atonement 2 years ago but that doesn’t count. For my diehard fans, my absence is sorely missed. But one day, like the Terminator, I’ll be back.
I am on the board of directors at my congregation. Someone proposed to mandate vaccination. I responded that my family will not be able to attend if such mandate is implemented. The mandate was voted down.
Looks like you made a difference in the outcome whereas I am only a Jew in the pew except when called upon to give a d'var Torah. My shul hides behind the latest nostrum from the Administration so I would expect my return to physical attendance at shul to coincide with a declaration by the Administration that 'the war is over' which may not happen until there is a change in Administration. Meanwhile, I continue to daven at home daily. Ain brier'rah
Well, I have to say that I think I had covid over Easter (not tested) but I had same symptoms as a friend who was tested, both of us unvaxxed. I take all the vitamins you've mentioned. My case was very, very mild as was my friends, we're 60ish. No down time except for the 10 day stay-at-home.
I tested positive on April 24 after an unscheduled ambulance ride to the hospital, where they administered the mandatory test.
I say I "tested positive", I don't say I "had" it or "came down" with it, because the extent of my symptoms was a low-grade fever for 36 hours. Nothing else, literally. No headache, high fever, body aches, loss of taste or smell, extreme fatigue, cough, runny nose, congestion, you name it, I *didn't* have it. Started my IVM the day I tested positive, I didn't even have any IVM side-effects. No comorbidities that I know of, I'm not an athlete per se (played youth and adult hockey, hoops, baseball, that sort of thing in the past) but not a ball of fat, either. 6', 195#. (Does anyone even use the # sign to signify weight in pounds anymore? Years ago you'd write 195#, not 195lb.)
I'm 60ish, too. Ok, 60. Not high-risk, AFAIK. Pureblood, and now with antibodies (assuming the hospital wasn't lying to me, which is a big assumption these days).
I woke up with a headache and sore throat. The evening before, I was very tired but at the time, I thought I just over did it that day: I'm fairly active. I don't think I had much of a temperature, I sneezed a few times, one evening I felt a bit odd in my chest for about 2-3 hours. My usual cold and flu remedies are Cold FX (a ginseng based Canadian cold remedy), Elderberry syrup and Oil of Oregano and that's what I used as well as chicken soup. The only strange symptom I had was being very tired again for 1 evening as I recovered, about 1 week from the start.
I wasn't surprised by my mild symptoms. I've done a lot of reading and knew that since the original strain, covid just kept getting milder etc. What made me very angry was realizing how much damage has been done to people around the world over a 'sore throat' type illness.
I've written letters, signed petitions and attended demonstrations including the Truck Freedom Rally in Ottawa, Ontario (I was only there 1 day). I'm now somewhat politically active, I volunteer at least and financially support organizations to the extent I can that support freedom. I do my best to speak honestly to brainwashed friends without alienating them. And I pray. What else to do at the moment?
Amen. Taking Dr. Zelenko's Z Stack. We are stocked up for the next six months, did that as well when it first came last year. Thank the Lord so far so good. Oh my family physician also put me on 50,000 IU of Vitamin D3 one capsule weekly. Cheers.
I had dinner tonight with six guys in my Men’s group. All have been vaccinated (except me), have had Covid (most since the vax) and say that the only people they know who are now coming down with Covid are vaxxed. And all have refused a second shot and boosters. Hmm.
I keep hearing about reinfections, but it's always in the vaxxed. Conspicuously, no studies on this, either. Almost as if natural immunity is still going strong with these variants. Anybody observing otherwise?
Sorry, I'm unvaxxed, had Delta in Sept then got Omicron in January from a vaxxed boosted niece. For me, Omicron just a mild sore throat and crankiness for a few days. Everyone's body is different.
Personally - I have not caught the Bug (been through pcr, antibody, t-cell - all negative). YET most EVERYONE I KNOW who boasted of jabs and boosters have since been struck down by Covid. There is a group who would not disclose they and their unjabbed kids got the bug, because it would make them look weak. I get it - but pisses me off. As long as you are keeping your immune system strong, seems all well. But vitamin folks catch it too, seems like a 3 day issue for them - vaxxed or not. Have no information on reinfections....
They really should study us, the Un-mRNA(ed) folks. Because, maybe we were all slightly infected right at the beginning with the first variant and thus have long lasting immunity for all variants. It would be interesting, as they see more and more breakthroughs, that they decide to do this.
I doubt that those who have been peddling the poison would be interested in finding out that those of us who refused to drink the kool-aid were far better off especially because they don't believe in natural immunity resulting from a prior illness.
They can't study the unvaxed very well, because they may have been infected, not known it, not been tested while infected, and then their antibodies faded away. This was particularly true in 2020 before there was testing. There is no way to know who has been infected with COVID unless they are tested for antibodies within a few months of the infection. People don't normally pay for antibody tests, and the government is not going to pay for you to get one. The tests that are widespread now only indicate a current infection.
In a similar way, there is no way to prove anybody got a COVID vaccine. Sure, you can get yourself on a registry saying you took the shots, but there is no way to prove you actually got the shots. In Spain 2,200 rich and famous people paid a criminal gang to get on the registry without actually getting the shots. This is no doubt happening all over the U.S. The only criminals who are getting caught at this so far have been the greedy ones who advertised their services.
Thanks for your explanation. Because if my family and I got infected, it was back in Feb. 2020. We were around a bunch of folks for a party and then attended crowded political rallies. Then, boom, we all fell sick. A sickness I never felt before; totally different than a cold or flu. Thankfully, we all recovered in a day or two. So, yep, no testing at that time back then. And at this time, none of us are vaxxed, and although people around us have been infected, with humility- no boasting about it- we haven’t been infected since. Not even a cold- but my family and I are of the crazies, not minding to wear that blue diaper over our mouth & nose. Because we would get sick every year from my daughter bringing home a bug from school, and so now we’re all hooked on not wanting a cold again. Bad habit, huh? O well! 🤷🏽♀️ and so Thanks again for the info.
Same here. I take some vitamins and that's it. Maybe had it in December. Sick for half a day. No problems since, despite being around others who tested positive.
I’m unvaccinated and have not had Covid. I take vitamin d3, c, b12, 81mg aspirin, fish oil and calcium. Walk, do yoga and get plenty of sunshine. Daily. I was 2 years out from open heart surgery and a cancer (pheochromocytoma) fight. I didn’t mask and I didn’t isolate.
Everyone I know has had Covid. My son, unvaccinated, twice. Bad.
My best friend is a "true believer" in these mRNA shots. No matter what info, including expert research, data results etc, I give to him, he tells me I'm drinking the "kool-aid".
It's useless to even try anymore. At this point it seems we're preaching to the choir.
Ask him "What would it take for you to consider these vaccines a failure?" and watch him squirm, as he realizes he can't give an answer, because whatever objective standard he sets, these vaccines might reach that level of failure.
We'll here, I'll let you read his response yourself after I forwarded the CNN article Alex posted yesterday:
"I thought the CNN article was good. These mRNA's may be the only solution short term (yes, catching covid or hiding from it are options). It's an evolving process. I think the big question is, 'why is Covid so smart'!"
"Short term". There's the key. He's incapable (or unwilling) to look at the consequences beyond "short term". And it's because NO ONE in the alphabet legacy media has bothered to report on "long term".
They're all in the business of protecting Big Pharma's reputation and profits. At the expense of human life.
The other key is "why is Covid so smart!" It's a f*cking virus, dipsh*t. It's doing what viruses do, ESPECIALLY when confronted with leaky vaccines.
I'll bet he also doesn't know what a "leaky" vaccine is, nor what OAS and ADE are.
You can't fix stupid. I have a relative who was being treated for liver cancer last fall. Hospital said she needed the booster. She got it early December. End of January, dead from a massive blood clot near her liver. Hospital Dr said "thats quite common with this type of cancer". I know causation can't be proved but then listen to Dr Ryan Cole about the massive increase in sudden onset cancer.
Unfortunately, I think it will take him and/or his vaxxed friends and family getting sick, perhaps multiple times to wake him up. I've had a few friends like yours but once they see that everybody can get sick, they have at least started to change.
Good question And definitely ppl who ask the same in the other direction should be prepared to answer. I'd think that for the shots (technically not vaccines since they don't neutralize the germ and prevent the recipient from getting infected) to be considered successful they should actually do what they were intended to do: limit infection AND prevent death in those who got the shot. Also, we should keep in mind that the promise of what the shots do has shifted over time as the original goals proved too lofty for reality.
Leeroy, love your handle (Is my slang too old? Your user name) I've never played a single video game after Pac Man and I was (still am) clueless about every aspect of how they work etc. So
in 2008 when 3 buddies dropped by my work with a lap top and said "we're gonna show you how dumb you'd be if you played", then rolled the Leeeeroy video. I ended up getting in trouble at work cuz I replayed it at least 15 times in 10 minutes, and I couldn't stop laughing. I also knew they were right, I'd be that dumb. However, those 3 guys are still in my best friend group and I'm the only one unvaxxed and I couldn't talk them out of the boosters. Long story for all that, but I'm going crazy trying to figure out how all these people got so hypnotized.
The gaslighting has reached epic levels. Unable to fathom they could have possibly been wrong, they just change the story, rig the data. Nobody in charge can be trusted. My idiot company just reinstituted worthless masking. Why?? The fraudulent CDC has labeled my hometown at “critical” level. That’s it. This will never end. The shots will never end. The mass formation has overtaken much of the globe. The rest of us will have to fight every mandate, defy every edict. It’s the only way to keep sane.
Maybe he can't bring himself to acknowledge it, but if he doesn't jump in line for more shots consider that a win. I have loved ones and friends that refused to listen, look at data, etc. And I don't care about being right, I just care about their well-being. If they forever dismiss me, but don't get anymore shots, I will be so relieved. And I don't share much anymore as it is time I will never get back. If Trump runs for office again, I expect the MSM will have non-stop coverage of the ineffectiveness and harms of the vaccines.
and eventually they will suffer a blood clot like many of the unfortunate vaccine fanatics...but even then, they will not believe it is the vaccine, and they will be paying Pfizer for months to even years for a wonderful and still expensive anticoagulant! Pfizer will get you coming and going. Pharmaceutical companies run the world!
This is why the compliant must suffer. People like that need to catch Covid, have it really bad, end up in hospital, maybe die, have kids who are vaxed, get some heart problems or have a stroke, sports career over, scholarship oppty ruined. Its the only way to wake them up. But you have to keep telling them so you can break the spell, for sure.
I know many as well. It may come down to simply going hey I have a bar bet for ya. Let's go get our T Cells checked. The one with the MOST gets a beer or dinner? Put up or shut up.
Look if Geert is right, admitting the vaccines not only do not work, but also will ultimately end the life of the person vaccinated is very grim. To know people willingly took the jab and never questioned how safe these vaccines are, puts blame on individual that was easily conned. People do not step up to plate and admit stupidity. Also keep in many were forced to take jab. Imagine how angry they are at this point. Geert has predicted these deaths will rise pretty soon, meaning a month or more. My hatred of the media, governments, and science community keeps increasing. They all knew better.
That's great news!! Except what is going to be the consequence of them ending up in the garbage. Don't get me wrong, I would much rather that then in people's arms, but this is highly biohazard waste. I certainly hope he does a better job of destroying them then he did creating "safe & effective" jabs.
Give them to senior White House personnel, Congress, all MSM Media personnel, Hospital Administrators, Moderna and Pfizer employees, Fauci/CDC/FDA group (x10), and the list goes on and on. We should be able to use up 30mm doses on this group through repeated boosters. Problem solved.
I just keep coming back to the fact that Pfizer's trial data showed EXACTLY what we're seeing in the real world. Why is any of this surprising? We should be spending all of our time talking about how misinterpreted the trial results were by media (who were paid to misinterpret it) and how we fix that going forward. The trial itself showed that the only way to show efficacy was not to test people, and there was zero reduction in hospitalizations or deaths (both were higher on the treatment side than the control side). Isn't the discussion really about how it was portrayed, and not the "failure" of the medicine? The medicine did exactly what the trial said it was going to do.
Berkeley Unified also stopped recording vaccination status of Covid positive students after January showed zero effectiveness.
Below is BUSD's reply to my public records access request and my reply. They knew I would be asking, as I have done so each month this school year, and when the data turned against them they stopped recording it anywhere that made it available through a public records access request. You know, here in the home of the world's greatest public university, we hide inconvenient facts. It's for the greater good...
Subject: Fwd: Your public records act requests of April 28
January of 2022 80% of covid positive cases were in vaccinated students. Basically the same percentage as the vaccinated student body at large. Well that information proves inconvenient to the narrative. So what does an obedient school district do? Stop getting the information.
There is something seriously wrong with you people. You have entered the arena of willful ignorance. Have you contemplated that as it relates to your own intellectual integrity? It is so so sad.
Regarding your California Public Records Act (CPRA) request emailed to the Berkeley Unified School District (BUSD) on April 28, 2022, seeking the following records:
1. Public records that detail the number of Covid positive teachers and staff by vaccination status from 1/28/2022 to 3/31/2022. In other words, how many of the identified covid cases were in vaccinated vs unvaccinated teachers and staff inside BUSD
2. public records that detail the number of Covid positive vaccine eligible (12+) students by vaccination status from 1/28/2022 through 3/31/2022. In other words, how many of the identified covid cases were in vaccinated vs unvaccinated students inside BUSD.
3. public records that detail the number, and percentage, of vaccine eligible students at BUSD. If available, as I know the data was requested to be completed at a School Board meeting over the winter, this data shall be disaggregated by race and age. In other words, how many vaccine eligible students are vaccinated at BUSD broken out by race and age group.
As to requests 1 and 2, BUSD stopped tracking vaccine status of cases in January during the surge, as the vaccination status of any COVID-positive individual had no bearing on how they isolated therefore, there are no public records in existence for inspection or copying.
As to request 3, we estimate we can provide responsive records in 30 days; we will make every effort to produce them sooner.
Please note that BUSD does not produce privileged document(s) or information encompassed by an exemption under the CPRA or any state or federal law. BUSD may segregate and redact privileged, exempt and non-responsive information as needed prior to producing any records in response to your request. Finally, the District reserves the right to amend and/or supplement this response and will notify you should such action be necessary.
Regards,
Mary T. Keating
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Mary Keating
Title IX Investigator
District Civil Rights and Compliance Office
Berkeley Unified School District
2020 Bonar Street
Berkeley, CA 84702
mobile: 510-859-8477
District Office direct number: 510-486-9353
Berkeley High School Title IX Office: 510-644-6834
I feel sorry for you that you are dealing with the Berkeley USD...I moved out of oakland 2 years ago with my husband and 2 young sons and it was the best decision I've made in a long time!
Thanks! Inspirational. It’s super hard. I want to bail as well but winding down a business and extracting 4 kids in HS and middle school is tough. The next few months will be telling. If another lock down starts to materialize we are out of here.
Mary sounds like a real peach. Title IX Investigator ? WinTheactualF does that person do all day ? Sounds like they would need to create a bunch of Kangaroo Court scenarios to justify their position. I'm kind of surprised the BUSD didn't diktat that she announces her pronouns in her signature block. These overeducated useless people wouldn't be able to find a job in the real world.
Never forgive and never forget. A dear friend of ours that had cancer that was in remission for over a year. . . Well, you can guess the end of this story. I don't understand the push to get the jab - especially for people like her who had already had the 'rona and recovered to get these poison shots. Never forgive and never forget.
Has anyone noticed...no ONE is being held accountable. The very same people that did this to you are still, and not in the least worried about losing their jobs or being held accountable. We go round and round and round with updates on all the devastation to humanity and see the data day after day, month after month and now year after year and not ONE person held remotely to account. WTF!
Do we think negative efficacy for hospitalizations and deaths is due to immune fixation (I.e. most of the unvaccinated have been exposed and developed relatively durable natural immunity while the vaxxed are experiencing and re-experiencing symptomatic infections since their immune system is trained to pump out Jan 2020 version spike abs)?
Or…is there some evidence for possible ADE or OAS?
I live in NM and I'm convinced our ignorant Governor can't wait to lock thinks down and force us into masks. Since I live in the SE corner of the state it won't effect us as much as the shit holes that are ABQ, Santa Fe and Las Cruces. It's sad but the demographic that has been most affect are Native American north and west of ABQ.
"Thus Oklahoma appears to have slipped into negative vaccine effectiveness - not just for infections, but for Covid hospitalizations. The trend is recent and accelerating."
This is happening everywhere, unless you believe the clot-shotted Okies are somehow different than anyone else in the world.
The REAL question is will these evil perps who have done this to humanity be held accountable. Because if they are not you have ultimately answered your question as in it will get terribly worse
My concern is that NYC and places like it will revert to mandating vaccines for work, theatre, concerts and restaurants because...that's the way it's done to protect during Covid. Reason and fact are not viewed, recognized or allowed into the wall created by blind fear. That wall is their protection. Allowing reality in is way too scary. Illusions comfort.
I can't figure this out - everyone admits that the vaccines aren't working, yet they are still required at many employers and, as you said, concerts, etc. Are they just completely irrational at this point?
Let them ensconce themselves within the safe confines of their super-vaxxed prisons. Let them point paranoid fingers at each other, wondering who visited the second, third, fourth, fifth infection upon them. Screw them. Eventually, they won't be able to ignore it, and we can laugh at their stupidity.
So true YYR! It's never "how did I catch it, I'm vaxxed!', but always "Who gave this to (vaxxed) me!" The lack of basic logic is scary. But everyone has been beaten down psychologically. Double scary.
I own a radio station in a small NM town and I have done extensive reporting on COVID-19 in the state. I was banished from zoom press conferences at times for asking inconvenient questions. I asked for the lastest 4 week data for cases, hospitalizations, and deaths and got the same kind of lame response as was given in this article so I filed to get the information under the Inspection of Public Records Act, but have yet to be provided that data. However, one can figure our the numbers with by examining the cumlative numbers that are put out. In the 4 weeks from April 18th-May 16th 65.5% of new infections were among the vaccinated. The vaccinated made up 54% of those hospitalized. The deaths were still predominately among the unvaccinated at 77%, but deaths usually lag behind infections by 3-4 weeks, so those numbers may begin to even out more over the coming weeks.
We have a huge surge here in the Bay Area. I finally caught it too, so did the kids and the triple vaccinated spouse. Spouse has the worst symptoms, followed by me and kids minor sniffles. None of us have comorbidities. It’s like a mild flu but more than a cold. Nothing I personally would vax for. I’ll run antibodies out of curiosity in a week.
Now. The narrative in our local papers is yes huge wave, mask up friends, but nobody is dying cause we are all boosted! 🤦♀️
I realize this is clearly anecdotal, but in my office, out of 18-20 people, I’m the only one unvaccinated. Every other person in my office are “fully vaccinated.” Prior to the vaccine, only one person Got Covid. Since the start of vaccination, every other co-worker has gotten Covid. A couple have gotten it twice. plus RSV. Normal colds. Stomach bugs. Me? Nothing. Not even a sniffle. The only thing I’ve taken is daily doses of vitamins D3 and C. Quercetin and Zinc. In fact everyone I know that has been jabbed has gotten Covid.
Your immune system stands strong!! I am the only NP in my group who did not vaccinate- had to resign for that choice- and since I left -my entire team has had Covid, and some pretty bad cases.
And I'm sure they say, "thank God for the vaccine or I would have been hospitalized or even died." Right, right, right.....
“Say the line!!!!!!!”
Same exact anecdote from me. Hmmm...
I could tell you the same anecdote ten times over. Our church, average attendance 75 - 80. All through 2020/to fall 2021, no-one got it. Early fall - case after case, all vaxxed. All the unvaxxed - nothing. Not even a sniffle.
Until recently, I gave regular talks during the past 30 years in our synagogue on sacred text. However, because of the protocols to which all attendees are subject, I have been unable to attend services for the last few years. And I am certainly not going to wear a mask or get vaccinated in order to show up.I did give a Zoom talk on the Day of Atonement 2 years ago but that doesn’t count. For my diehard fans, my absence is sorely missed. But one day, like the Terminator, I’ll be back.
Just Imagine if churches and synagogues had played their biblical role and stood up against the state? So few here in Canada.
some did
Not in my mid sized Ontario city, but yes, I am aware of some that defied.
Fear is a powerful tool for control. Some did. Others will come around. 💙
I am on the board of directors at my congregation. Someone proposed to mandate vaccination. I responded that my family will not be able to attend if such mandate is implemented. The mandate was voted down.
Looks like you made a difference in the outcome whereas I am only a Jew in the pew except when called upon to give a d'var Torah. My shul hides behind the latest nostrum from the Administration so I would expect my return to physical attendance at shul to coincide with a declaration by the Administration that 'the war is over' which may not happen until there is a change in Administration. Meanwhile, I continue to daven at home daily. Ain brier'rah
Yup! I have witnessed and heard others tell of the same/similar experience.
I take the same vitamins daily. Great minds think alike.
Ditto. Plus a daily multi here.
Well, I have to say that I think I had covid over Easter (not tested) but I had same symptoms as a friend who was tested, both of us unvaxxed. I take all the vitamins you've mentioned. My case was very, very mild as was my friends, we're 60ish. No down time except for the 10 day stay-at-home.
I tested positive on April 24 after an unscheduled ambulance ride to the hospital, where they administered the mandatory test.
I say I "tested positive", I don't say I "had" it or "came down" with it, because the extent of my symptoms was a low-grade fever for 36 hours. Nothing else, literally. No headache, high fever, body aches, loss of taste or smell, extreme fatigue, cough, runny nose, congestion, you name it, I *didn't* have it. Started my IVM the day I tested positive, I didn't even have any IVM side-effects. No comorbidities that I know of, I'm not an athlete per se (played youth and adult hockey, hoops, baseball, that sort of thing in the past) but not a ball of fat, either. 6', 195#. (Does anyone even use the # sign to signify weight in pounds anymore? Years ago you'd write 195#, not 195lb.)
I'm 60ish, too. Ok, 60. Not high-risk, AFAIK. Pureblood, and now with antibodies (assuming the hospital wasn't lying to me, which is a big assumption these days).
I woke up with a headache and sore throat. The evening before, I was very tired but at the time, I thought I just over did it that day: I'm fairly active. I don't think I had much of a temperature, I sneezed a few times, one evening I felt a bit odd in my chest for about 2-3 hours. My usual cold and flu remedies are Cold FX (a ginseng based Canadian cold remedy), Elderberry syrup and Oil of Oregano and that's what I used as well as chicken soup. The only strange symptom I had was being very tired again for 1 evening as I recovered, about 1 week from the start.
I wasn't surprised by my mild symptoms. I've done a lot of reading and knew that since the original strain, covid just kept getting milder etc. What made me very angry was realizing how much damage has been done to people around the world over a 'sore throat' type illness.
I've written letters, signed petitions and attended demonstrations including the Truck Freedom Rally in Ottawa, Ontario (I was only there 1 day). I'm now somewhat politically active, I volunteer at least and financially support organizations to the extent I can that support freedom. I do my best to speak honestly to brainwashed friends without alienating them. And I pray. What else to do at the moment?
🙋♀️I use the # sign to indicate pounds. But I am 50yo, the generation that emphasized the Oxford Comma and cared about spelling. A time long gone.
Amen. Taking Dr. Zelenko's Z Stack. We are stocked up for the next six months, did that as well when it first came last year. Thank the Lord so far so good. Oh my family physician also put me on 50,000 IU of Vitamin D3 one capsule weekly. Cheers.
I had dinner tonight with six guys in my Men’s group. All have been vaccinated (except me), have had Covid (most since the vax) and say that the only people they know who are now coming down with Covid are vaxxed. And all have refused a second shot and boosters. Hmm.
I keep hearing about reinfections, but it's always in the vaxxed. Conspicuously, no studies on this, either. Almost as if natural immunity is still going strong with these variants. Anybody observing otherwise?
Sorry, I'm unvaxxed, had Delta in Sept then got Omicron in January from a vaxxed boosted niece. For me, Omicron just a mild sore throat and crankiness for a few days. Everyone's body is different.
Personally - I have not caught the Bug (been through pcr, antibody, t-cell - all negative). YET most EVERYONE I KNOW who boasted of jabs and boosters have since been struck down by Covid. There is a group who would not disclose they and their unjabbed kids got the bug, because it would make them look weak. I get it - but pisses me off. As long as you are keeping your immune system strong, seems all well. But vitamin folks catch it too, seems like a 3 day issue for them - vaxxed or not. Have no information on reinfections....
They really should study us, the Un-mRNA(ed) folks. Because, maybe we were all slightly infected right at the beginning with the first variant and thus have long lasting immunity for all variants. It would be interesting, as they see more and more breakthroughs, that they decide to do this.
I doubt that those who have been peddling the poison would be interested in finding out that those of us who refused to drink the kool-aid were far better off especially because they don't believe in natural immunity resulting from a prior illness.
They can't study the unvaxed very well, because they may have been infected, not known it, not been tested while infected, and then their antibodies faded away. This was particularly true in 2020 before there was testing. There is no way to know who has been infected with COVID unless they are tested for antibodies within a few months of the infection. People don't normally pay for antibody tests, and the government is not going to pay for you to get one. The tests that are widespread now only indicate a current infection.
In a similar way, there is no way to prove anybody got a COVID vaccine. Sure, you can get yourself on a registry saying you took the shots, but there is no way to prove you actually got the shots. In Spain 2,200 rich and famous people paid a criminal gang to get on the registry without actually getting the shots. This is no doubt happening all over the U.S. The only criminals who are getting caught at this so far have been the greedy ones who advertised their services.
Thanks for your explanation. Because if my family and I got infected, it was back in Feb. 2020. We were around a bunch of folks for a party and then attended crowded political rallies. Then, boom, we all fell sick. A sickness I never felt before; totally different than a cold or flu. Thankfully, we all recovered in a day or two. So, yep, no testing at that time back then. And at this time, none of us are vaxxed, and although people around us have been infected, with humility- no boasting about it- we haven’t been infected since. Not even a cold- but my family and I are of the crazies, not minding to wear that blue diaper over our mouth & nose. Because we would get sick every year from my daughter bringing home a bug from school, and so now we’re all hooked on not wanting a cold again. Bad habit, huh? O well! 🤷🏽♀️ and so Thanks again for the info.
Same here. I take some vitamins and that's it. Maybe had it in December. Sick for half a day. No problems since, despite being around others who tested positive.
I’ve been exposed several times. But have not caught it once.
I’m unvaccinated and have not had Covid. I take vitamin d3, c, b12, 81mg aspirin, fish oil and calcium. Walk, do yoga and get plenty of sunshine. Daily. I was 2 years out from open heart surgery and a cancer (pheochromocytoma) fight. I didn’t mask and I didn’t isolate.
Everyone I know has had Covid. My son, unvaccinated, twice. Bad.
Virus gonna virus?
My best friend is a "true believer" in these mRNA shots. No matter what info, including expert research, data results etc, I give to him, he tells me I'm drinking the "kool-aid".
It's useless to even try anymore. At this point it seems we're preaching to the choir.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." Mark Twain
Ask him "What would it take for you to consider these vaccines a failure?" and watch him squirm, as he realizes he can't give an answer, because whatever objective standard he sets, these vaccines might reach that level of failure.
We'll here, I'll let you read his response yourself after I forwarded the CNN article Alex posted yesterday:
"I thought the CNN article was good. These mRNA's may be the only solution short term (yes, catching covid or hiding from it are options). It's an evolving process. I think the big question is, 'why is Covid so smart'!"
You had me at “I thought the CNN article was good.” 😂
I knew you were lurking :-)
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"Short term". There's the key. He's incapable (or unwilling) to look at the consequences beyond "short term". And it's because NO ONE in the alphabet legacy media has bothered to report on "long term".
They're all in the business of protecting Big Pharma's reputation and profits. At the expense of human life.
The other key is "why is Covid so smart!" It's a f*cking virus, dipsh*t. It's doing what viruses do, ESPECIALLY when confronted with leaky vaccines.
I'll bet he also doesn't know what a "leaky" vaccine is, nor what OAS and ADE are.
And yes, I slapped myself on the forehead after reading his response.
You can't fix stupid. I have a relative who was being treated for liver cancer last fall. Hospital said she needed the booster. She got it early December. End of January, dead from a massive blood clot near her liver. Hospital Dr said "thats quite common with this type of cancer". I know causation can't be proved but then listen to Dr Ryan Cole about the massive increase in sudden onset cancer.
Unfortunately, I think it will take him and/or his vaxxed friends and family getting sick, perhaps multiple times to wake him up. I've had a few friends like yours but once they see that everybody can get sick, they have at least started to change.
"Cool, cool.... So, what metric do you think you should use to gauge the success of the MRNA vaccines?"
Good question And definitely ppl who ask the same in the other direction should be prepared to answer. I'd think that for the shots (technically not vaccines since they don't neutralize the germ and prevent the recipient from getting infected) to be considered successful they should actually do what they were intended to do: limit infection AND prevent death in those who got the shot. Also, we should keep in mind that the promise of what the shots do has shifted over time as the original goals proved too lofty for reality.
Leeroy, love your handle (Is my slang too old? Your user name) I've never played a single video game after Pac Man and I was (still am) clueless about every aspect of how they work etc. So
in 2008 when 3 buddies dropped by my work with a lap top and said "we're gonna show you how dumb you'd be if you played", then rolled the Leeeeroy video. I ended up getting in trouble at work cuz I replayed it at least 15 times in 10 minutes, and I couldn't stop laughing. I also knew they were right, I'd be that dumb. However, those 3 guys are still in my best friend group and I'm the only one unvaxxed and I couldn't talk them out of the boosters. Long story for all that, but I'm going crazy trying to figure out how all these people got so hypnotized.
The irony is that he claims you are drinking the kool-aid when it is he who is proselytizing that everyone take Jim Jones' wonder shot.
The gaslighting has reached epic levels. Unable to fathom they could have possibly been wrong, they just change the story, rig the data. Nobody in charge can be trusted. My idiot company just reinstituted worthless masking. Why?? The fraudulent CDC has labeled my hometown at “critical” level. That’s it. This will never end. The shots will never end. The mass formation has overtaken much of the globe. The rest of us will have to fight every mandate, defy every edict. It’s the only way to keep sane.
Maybe he can't bring himself to acknowledge it, but if he doesn't jump in line for more shots consider that a win. I have loved ones and friends that refused to listen, look at data, etc. And I don't care about being right, I just care about their well-being. If they forever dismiss me, but don't get anymore shots, I will be so relieved. And I don't share much anymore as it is time I will never get back. If Trump runs for office again, I expect the MSM will have non-stop coverage of the ineffectiveness and harms of the vaccines.
But he's already had 3 shots! And told me he can't wait for the 4th!
There are millions of ppl out there just like him.
and eventually they will suffer a blood clot like many of the unfortunate vaccine fanatics...but even then, they will not believe it is the vaccine, and they will be paying Pfizer for months to even years for a wonderful and still expensive anticoagulant! Pfizer will get you coming and going. Pharmaceutical companies run the world!
Good grief. Maybe send him this video. There is a reason that not a single country wants the mRNA vaccines. https://twitter.com/realmonsanto/status/1528887133263450112
I already did this morning LOL.
This is why the compliant must suffer. People like that need to catch Covid, have it really bad, end up in hospital, maybe die, have kids who are vaxed, get some heart problems or have a stroke, sports career over, scholarship oppty ruined. Its the only way to wake them up. But you have to keep telling them so you can break the spell, for sure.
He's drinking the Kool Aid!! What Kool Aid would you be drinking? He's to far in now to admit he's wrong. Pride is a tough thing to swallow.
I know many as well. It may come down to simply going hey I have a bar bet for ya. Let's go get our T Cells checked. The one with the MOST gets a beer or dinner? Put up or shut up.
And this debate only illustrates the divide that happens in so many areas of our lives.
For instance, just look at the divide in religious circles. People can read the same passage of Scripture and come to a different conclusion.
One thing through all of this COVID stuff is that I've refused to allow it to destroy my family and friendship connections.
Which hasn't always been easy 😄
mine too - says that I'm just trying to prove a point by not getting the shot
Look if Geert is right, admitting the vaccines not only do not work, but also will ultimately end the life of the person vaccinated is very grim. To know people willingly took the jab and never questioned how safe these vaccines are, puts blame on individual that was easily conned. People do not step up to plate and admit stupidity. Also keep in many were forced to take jab. Imagine how angry they are at this point. Geert has predicted these deaths will rise pretty soon, meaning a month or more. My hatred of the media, governments, and science community keeps increasing. They all knew better.
Those who injected their kids will be the last to accept they were duped.
My family members had their kids vaccinated. I cannot even talk about it. It is all about protecting adults.
Stéphane Bancel, CEO of Moderna:
"it's sad to say, I'm in the process of throwing 30 million doses in the garbage because nobody wants them. We have a big demand problem."
He said Moderna contacted the embassies in DC and not a single country wants the mRNA vaccines.
https://twitter.com/realmonsanto/status/1528887133263450112
That's wonderful news.
That's great news!! Except what is going to be the consequence of them ending up in the garbage. Don't get me wrong, I would much rather that then in people's arms, but this is highly biohazard waste. I certainly hope he does a better job of destroying them then he did creating "safe & effective" jabs.
Give them to senior White House personnel, Congress, all MSM Media personnel, Hospital Administrators, Moderna and Pfizer employees, Fauci/CDC/FDA group (x10), and the list goes on and on. We should be able to use up 30mm doses on this group through repeated boosters. Problem solved.
I just keep coming back to the fact that Pfizer's trial data showed EXACTLY what we're seeing in the real world. Why is any of this surprising? We should be spending all of our time talking about how misinterpreted the trial results were by media (who were paid to misinterpret it) and how we fix that going forward. The trial itself showed that the only way to show efficacy was not to test people, and there was zero reduction in hospitalizations or deaths (both were higher on the treatment side than the control side). Isn't the discussion really about how it was portrayed, and not the "failure" of the medicine? The medicine did exactly what the trial said it was going to do.
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Berkeley Unified also stopped recording vaccination status of Covid positive students after January showed zero effectiveness.
Below is BUSD's reply to my public records access request and my reply. They knew I would be asking, as I have done so each month this school year, and when the data turned against them they stopped recording it anywhere that made it available through a public records access request. You know, here in the home of the world's greatest public university, we hide inconvenient facts. It's for the greater good...
School Board <boardofed@berkeley.net>, Ally Markovich <ally@berkeleyside.org>, eric.ting@sfgate.com, emilie@berkeleyside.org, Chris Albeck <chrisalbeck@berkeley.net>, Frances Dinkelspiel <frances@citysidejournalism.org>, Gabriel Fredman <gabrielfredman@berkeley.net>, John Woolfolk <jwoolfolk@bayareanewsgroup.com>, Juan Raygoza <juanraygoza@berkeley.net>, School Board <boardofed@berkeley.net>, Alexandra Gutentag <argutentag@gmail.com>, Brent Stephens <brentstephens@berkeley.net>
Subject: Fwd: Your public records act requests of April 28
January of 2022 80% of covid positive cases were in vaccinated students. Basically the same percentage as the vaccinated student body at large. Well that information proves inconvenient to the narrative. So what does an obedient school district do? Stop getting the information.
There is something seriously wrong with you people. You have entered the arena of willful ignorance. Have you contemplated that as it relates to your own intellectual integrity? It is so so sad.
Dan
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Mary Keating <marykeating@berkeley.net>
Date: May 2, 2022 at 10:22:46 AM PDT
To: Dan McDunn <danmcdunn@gmail.com>
Subject: Your public records act requests of April 28
Dear Dan McDunn <danmcdunn@gmail.com>:
Regarding your California Public Records Act (CPRA) request emailed to the Berkeley Unified School District (BUSD) on April 28, 2022, seeking the following records:
1. Public records that detail the number of Covid positive teachers and staff by vaccination status from 1/28/2022 to 3/31/2022. In other words, how many of the identified covid cases were in vaccinated vs unvaccinated teachers and staff inside BUSD
2. public records that detail the number of Covid positive vaccine eligible (12+) students by vaccination status from 1/28/2022 through 3/31/2022. In other words, how many of the identified covid cases were in vaccinated vs unvaccinated students inside BUSD.
3. public records that detail the number, and percentage, of vaccine eligible students at BUSD. If available, as I know the data was requested to be completed at a School Board meeting over the winter, this data shall be disaggregated by race and age. In other words, how many vaccine eligible students are vaccinated at BUSD broken out by race and age group.
As to requests 1 and 2, BUSD stopped tracking vaccine status of cases in January during the surge, as the vaccination status of any COVID-positive individual had no bearing on how they isolated therefore, there are no public records in existence for inspection or copying.
As to request 3, we estimate we can provide responsive records in 30 days; we will make every effort to produce them sooner.
Please note that BUSD does not produce privileged document(s) or information encompassed by an exemption under the CPRA or any state or federal law. BUSD may segregate and redact privileged, exempt and non-responsive information as needed prior to producing any records in response to your request. Finally, the District reserves the right to amend and/or supplement this response and will notify you should such action be necessary.
Regards,
Mary T. Keating
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Mary Keating
Title IX Investigator
District Civil Rights and Compliance Office
Berkeley Unified School District
2020 Bonar Street
Berkeley, CA 84702
mobile: 510-859-8477
District Office direct number: 510-486-9353
Berkeley High School Title IX Office: 510-644-6834
I feel sorry for you that you are dealing with the Berkeley USD...I moved out of oakland 2 years ago with my husband and 2 young sons and it was the best decision I've made in a long time!
Thanks! Inspirational. It’s super hard. I want to bail as well but winding down a business and extracting 4 kids in HS and middle school is tough. The next few months will be telling. If another lock down starts to materialize we are out of here.
Mary sounds like a real peach. Title IX Investigator ? WinTheactualF does that person do all day ? Sounds like they would need to create a bunch of Kangaroo Court scenarios to justify their position. I'm kind of surprised the BUSD didn't diktat that she announces her pronouns in her signature block. These overeducated useless people wouldn't be able to find a job in the real world.
Good for you!!!!!!
Never forgive and never forget. A dear friend of ours that had cancer that was in remission for over a year. . . Well, you can guess the end of this story. I don't understand the push to get the jab - especially for people like her who had already had the 'rona and recovered to get these poison shots. Never forgive and never forget.
I have a friend who’s cancer has spread wildly since injection. Has “baffled” their doctors...
Always forgive never forget
Forgive if they repent ; never forget.
Good point
The gov't, medical field and Big Pharma have not asked for forgiveness, so they get none from me.
Has anyone noticed...no ONE is being held accountable. The very same people that did this to you are still, and not in the least worried about losing their jobs or being held accountable. We go round and round and round with updates on all the devastation to humanity and see the data day after day, month after month and now year after year and not ONE person held remotely to account. WTF!
There will be no repentance in this generation.
The virus itself will mete out justice.
Reckon so BigE. The utter lack of accountability to this point is what it is
Yet the "how wonderful the vaccines are" commercials are in full force
Yes they are all over on tv 📺. Turning it off. Trying to block ads in social media or stay off
Do we think negative efficacy for hospitalizations and deaths is due to immune fixation (I.e. most of the unvaccinated have been exposed and developed relatively durable natural immunity while the vaxxed are experiencing and re-experiencing symptomatic infections since their immune system is trained to pump out Jan 2020 version spike abs)?
Or…is there some evidence for possible ADE or OAS?
Read El Gato Malo's bad cattitude substack. The short answer is yes.
I live in NM and I'm convinced our ignorant Governor can't wait to lock thinks down and force us into masks. Since I live in the SE corner of the state it won't effect us as much as the shit holes that are ABQ, Santa Fe and Las Cruces. It's sad but the demographic that has been most affect are Native American north and west of ABQ.
The tribes in WA state were the first to receive the Bioweapons. I was so surprised that they marched right in to be jabbed.
Well isn’t that curious…
"Thus Oklahoma appears to have slipped into negative vaccine effectiveness - not just for infections, but for Covid hospitalizations. The trend is recent and accelerating."
This is happening everywhere, unless you believe the clot-shotted Okies are somehow different than anyone else in the world.
The REAL question is will these evil perps who have done this to humanity be held accountable. Because if they are not you have ultimately answered your question as in it will get terribly worse
I’ll give you a hint:
Russiagate has been conclusively proven to have been a Hillary Clinton/FBI psy-op against Trump and half the American electorate.
Same with the Hunter Biden laptop scandal.
Lock her up? Ha!
My concern is that NYC and places like it will revert to mandating vaccines for work, theatre, concerts and restaurants because...that's the way it's done to protect during Covid. Reason and fact are not viewed, recognized or allowed into the wall created by blind fear. That wall is their protection. Allowing reality in is way too scary. Illusions comfort.
I can't figure this out - everyone admits that the vaccines aren't working, yet they are still required at many employers and, as you said, concerts, etc. Are they just completely irrational at this point?
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They’re hanging on to “it could have been worse”🙃.They talked about how stupid we were for so long, they’ll never admit reality
Can u imagine? Instead of tickets to see a show you’ll have to get a shot at the entrance 🤪
Let them ensconce themselves within the safe confines of their super-vaxxed prisons. Let them point paranoid fingers at each other, wondering who visited the second, third, fourth, fifth infection upon them. Screw them. Eventually, they won't be able to ignore it, and we can laugh at their stupidity.
So true YYR! It's never "how did I catch it, I'm vaxxed!', but always "Who gave this to (vaxxed) me!" The lack of basic logic is scary. But everyone has been beaten down psychologically. Double scary.
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I own a radio station in a small NM town and I have done extensive reporting on COVID-19 in the state. I was banished from zoom press conferences at times for asking inconvenient questions. I asked for the lastest 4 week data for cases, hospitalizations, and deaths and got the same kind of lame response as was given in this article so I filed to get the information under the Inspection of Public Records Act, but have yet to be provided that data. However, one can figure our the numbers with by examining the cumlative numbers that are put out. In the 4 weeks from April 18th-May 16th 65.5% of new infections were among the vaccinated. The vaccinated made up 54% of those hospitalized. The deaths were still predominately among the unvaccinated at 77%, but deaths usually lag behind infections by 3-4 weeks, so those numbers may begin to even out more over the coming weeks.
Same exact thing in Snohomish County (and King County before it). When the numbers turn bad, they simply disappear them.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/et-tu-snohomish
We have a huge surge here in the Bay Area. I finally caught it too, so did the kids and the triple vaccinated spouse. Spouse has the worst symptoms, followed by me and kids minor sniffles. None of us have comorbidities. It’s like a mild flu but more than a cold. Nothing I personally would vax for. I’ll run antibodies out of curiosity in a week.
Now. The narrative in our local papers is yes huge wave, mask up friends, but nobody is dying cause we are all boosted! 🤦♀️
LOL! thank God everyone is boosted and remember, this is still all your fault you unvaccinated grandma hater!
Funny !!!…but unfortunately NOT funny