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Hopelessness. Loss of faith in God and in ones future. Global warming pessimism beat into kids heads from birth. Crazy long term increases in cost to live (housing) and educate kids. Growth in alternatives for women while, simultaneously, men are losing their sense of purpose. So many contributing factors. Makes me sad as a father of 3 --it’s is the great joy of my life to be called dad with respect and affection.

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Devalue the full time job of Mother and this is what you get.

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Blame access to pornography, social media via tiny screens and a fall away from God.

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As societies become more secular, more self focused, more stuff oriented, why wouldn't men and women both make the economic analysis that having children is a net negative. They are holes into which you pour your money, time and energy. If it's all about me, then kids are just a drain and distraction. Plus, women are waiting far too long to realize that motherhood is time dependent. Wait til your thirties and very often, the train has left the station and it's not coming back. My husband and I have six kids; I did the professional career, the corner office and big salary. Left it because being a Mom is so much better. You're welcome; now there are six decent people out there who are contributing members of society and will fund your Social Security and government. In fact, four of them have and will fight to defend your country. We as a civilized society have our priorities all screwed up, pray for our country.

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I have to believe that a lot of the decline is generational. Generation X has almost completely left the fertility pool. The youngest among that generation are now in their early forties, which means only late in life, technology aided pregnancies. Believe it or not, the Millennial Generation is also beginning to exit the fertility pool. They're right behind Gen X, which means the eldest among them are hitting their forties. The youngest Millennials are approaching 30, where fertility begins to decline.

Who does that leave? The most coddled, most skittish, most generally mentally f'd up generation in the history of the planet. I give you your future; the climate change obsessed, VR helmet wearing Generation Z. Do you really need to ask why birthrates are tanking?

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"Women must have about 2.1 children on average to maintain a stable population."

What is a woman ? :)

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Why have more than one or 2 children when you have been brainwashed that putting children in daycare and going back to contribute to the GDP are family goals? You simply can not have a large family if both people work. Raising a family the modern way is not enjoyable but it sure makes the processed food companies, daycare companies, Apple/Microsoft, and politicians who bank on that extra tax money incredibly happy and rich.

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The elder generations did nothing to facilitate mate selection and family formation. Imagine if people put in the same effort to those endeavors as careers for which you will be forgotten the minute you exit. Also, the lack of support for families that are formed from grandparent boomers and silents who have to go on that 4th vacation to Italy or wherever is staggering. But they won't hesitate to demand you drag your kids with you to that condo in Florida. Forget government incentives, start with cultural dynamics first.

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Is it the phones? A pilot friend quite active in the bedroom area told me last year that the playing around crews used to do on overnight flights has fallen off a cliff (yes, just like they show in movies and TV shows). He blames it on phones; he says everyone just wants to go back to their hotel rooms, alone, and scroll.

Simplistic answer, but I think those phones are ruining more than we realize.

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God help us if we are expecting gen z to fix this. They can't figure out if they are male or female.

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Seems like birth rates should have been thru the roof 9 months after 2020-2021 with everyone trapped at home. Then fall in the coming years when the next generation of snowflake singles refuse to get within 6 feet of someone because they might have Covid and/or other scary viruses.

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Unless of course even the infection itself has an effect. Interesting question that I am sure is being investigated with open hearts and open minds. Not asserting this, just a natural scientific question.

A likely explanation is the fear and nihilism propagated by the elites, and the destructive culture they propagate. Elites who have made no secret of their desire to depopulate the planet, at least of people other than they.

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I agree that the MRNA jabs cannot be solely blamed, as these trends were already in place. However, various OBGYNs have reported an alarming increase in miscarriages and stillbirths since the rollout of the vaccines. The lipid nanoparticles settle in the ovaries and testes, and it is not a stretch to think this is connected. However, to Alex's point, even before the jab, nations around the world have either A) decided that they just want stuff and pets, not children, or B) Something physiological or environmental is happening that reduces fertility. Or both!

Additionally, with the US aborting well over a million per year for a long time, there are millions fewer adults living now than there would have been. Each of those children would have likely become adults, and those adults would have potentially married (or not) and brought children into the world. For every absent child in the world (lost through abortion) you have a compound effect of the loss of children they might have had and so on, ad infinitum. And the US is hardly alone in the high number of children that are murdered in the womb.

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I’m 83 and my sisters and I have 17 grandchildren and so far none are married or have any children! It really bothers me.

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This is an issue with Japan I have followed since mid 90s. Back then it was a well known problem and little constructive has been done since to solve it. There have been programs and tons of money spent, yet the problem persists.

Back in the nineties, it was understood that a major factor was that Japan INC. did not allow their young male employees any free time during which they might engage in relationships that could lead to marriage. But not to fear, they came up with a solution that just could not fail; they recruited numbers of young women solely for they looks and mannerisms so that the long hours working together with the overworked young men would spawn relations that led to marriage and childbirth. The fact that the birth rate continues to fall and that this year Japan has the lowest number of young (18 year olds, if memory serves) is a testament to the wisdom of those at Japan’s helm at the time.

Despite the sums of money spent, when our first child was born 10 years ago, there were far far far too few nursery schools available. A little background is due here. The lifetime employment system in Japan is largely a myth since the bubble burst. Even for those who are in more secure positions, the cost of living has risen to such an extent that most married couples must be dual income to maintain the standard of living they were programmed to seek. With that background, consider our experience.

Originally, we planned for my wife to take the full 18 months her company offered for maternity leave. Her boss advised against it, stating that he had not had any female subordinate or colleague successfully reintegrate into the company after more than 12 months of maternity leave. Thus, we decided to go with just a year. However, my wife miscalculated her pay during her time away and decided on just 6 months once she discovered her error. I was against this, thinking it was much too short but thank God she convinced me. Two other families we met at a nursing school informational meeting stuck with their plans of sending their kids to nursing school after their first birthdays. As all the kids involved were born in September, this meant they would be trying to find an open slot in the middle of the school year. We were advised against this. They were unable to do so. After what had to be a stressful wait, after 6 months one of the families was able to find a position for their child but in a school that was inconveniently located for them. The other family could not find a day care for their child for 3 years.

Having to wait three years for a day care for our child would have destroyed our family’s finances. I did not then earn enough (Thanks to the panicked anti Covid policies, I make next to nothing now.) then to support a family of three on my own. My wife did and does. If I stayed with our child, it would have ended my career and earning potential ten years earlier than the panic has. A student of mine had her first child days before mine was born. They live in Tokyo and had an even harder time finding a nursery school. Since then, my city has become the shinning light in regards to daycare, opening many new nursery schools and daycare centers; but Tokyo as a whole and surrounding areas have not.

Then there is “The Wall”. This takes a bit of an explanation, but is important to understand how this issue is both next to impossible to fix, yet the easiest to fix; a lesson that needs learning by those in other lands. Group think rules Japan. That is not earth shattering news to anyone who has any understanding of the country and its society. But it is deeper than all Japanese acting in concert or just following the crowd. Each group demands 100% of its members time and fidelity. Not only does your employer, including part time, demand that you are able to meet their demands for meetings on days you normally are not working (at that employer for part timers), so too do your kids’ schools. It does not matter that you have a job, you must pick your child up from school once they start the the first year of elementary school. They are not allowed to walk home on their own until the second grade. Further, school lets out at a different time each day; often as early as 11:30 am. The schools do not care that both parents are working. If you can not meet the school’s scheduling demands, you shouldn’t have children, is their attitude. Employers have the same attitude. Towards the male employees, if you could not land a wife who is happy to stay at home and take care of their kids, that’s your problem. Hire a nanny. Most companies in Japan expect their female employees to quit upon marriage and if not then, then surely shortly before the first child is due. The fact that this is no longer economically feasible for most does not enter into their minds. They could not care less. Single parents are really hit hard with these unyielding demands.

Then there is the financial help that is offered. It think it still is a one time payment of ¥30,000, roughly $500 US with the current exchange rate. That is/was what the national government offers. Full time employees may receive considerable aid from their employer, which helps immensely but does not offset the costs of having a young child entirely and this often ends after the child enters grade school or shortly afterwards. Part time and gig employees are S.O.L. here too.

When “regular employees” make only 1/4 (roughly) of the nation’s work force and they are they only ones who can hope for any aid from their employers, is there any surprise that the birth rate has been below replacement levels for a couple of generations?

The problem is priorities. As long as they try to solve the problem and maintain their culture of “you gotta devote all your time to the group” for each group one is required to belong to, it ain’t getting fixed. However, if the priority was to solve the problem of a low birth rate without concern for these petty demands, the problem would soon correct itself. Well, would have if they focused on fixing it earlier on. The adult population of cannot increase for at least 18 years. If every woman of child bearing age gave birth today, it would not change the number of adults until 18 years from today. Any solution will take a minimum of 19 years to show any effect upon the work force. Japan does not have enough working aged people to cover for the number of mothers on maternity leave required to build back the population without destroying its economy. From which labor pool will they draw upon to man the necessary medical positions required for the massive uptick in births Japan needs? Who is going to produce the food the population needs once the elderly farmers and fishermen die off? The young shun these trades and there are not enough of them to replace those doing them anyway.

Japan has delivered itself a death blow; it just hasn’t sunk beneath the waves yet.

I’d bet that every single society experiencing low birthrates has allowed malignant ideas to be woven into their social fabrics that they have no desire to remove. Many are too poor to raise children but we cannot reduce taxes as that would mean we would have to cut social programs that rely on the revenue. Not enough people are getting married and having kids but it is more important to neuter our children to support the LGBTQWTFO agenda. These are just a couple of examples.

Additionally, those who would normally be at least seeking the act that leads to birth have been terrified to leave their residences for much of the past 4 years. They are afraid of meeting people, especially strangers, from fear of Covid. Those brave enough to do so, depending on location and time, were denied places to socialize. Even in the U.S. it has been reported that many do not want to go out without a mask. Masks are not attractive. The masked are not likely to out compete the unmasked for a mate.

Is it really a wonder that birth rates are down?

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Could be the HPV vaccine.

Covid vaccines definitely cause endocrine disruption and an increase in miscarriages. So they are a factor, it's unclear how much.

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