Zelensky could have avoided all of it if Ukraine, UK, US, NATO had just stuck to the 1994 agreement, which all of them have broken. Zelensky's a high-heel-wearing puppet. 2014 Obama came in with his thugs and threw out the good elected president and Ukraine became the bio/chem lab/money laundering/human trafficking center of the world. You know why they don't want it brought down? It will expose all of these illegal criminal players including the sons of Biden, Romney and Pelosi being paid millions by Ukrainian oil. As Twistertim says NWO - all of it. Wake up and turn off the lying media or combat them with truth.
Exactly. The general public will not turn off msm. It is easier to call the truth conspiracy. Why? Because the truth is freaking mind blowing unbelievably scary.
Actually the only people who watch MSM work in the gov and live in the suburbs of DC- they don’t give two shits what the people of Tenessee think- or the rest of the country for that matter
No I know lots of people who still watch or say they “just turn it in for the news” I.e. implying not for the celeb stuff but they still think they get news from it.
Yanukobitch was re-packaged by Manafort as a pro-european President. When he turned and went towards russia he reneged on why he was elected and the people were upset. He left the country in the middle of the night after months of protest. The "coup" never entered the Presidential office, RADA (Congress) or Government buildings (It was less violent than 1/6 until Yanikobitch starting shooting at people.)
Hunter was paid by Burisma (nt the Ukrainian Government). Burisma hired him to hopefully protect them against the anti-corruption people who were coming into the Ukrainian government after Poroschenko was elected.
You need to look at the dates of your "biolab" scandal .... It is also very difficult to money launder through Ukraine
Cash coming in of more than $10,000 is reported. Any money wired in is looked at very closely to protect against corruption over the lasts several years.
Most of the questionable Oligarchs , like Kolomoisky IMO, actually sent money into the USA for "laundering". Most Oligarchs keep their money outside of Ukraine (Monaco, Dubai, UK, Switzerland). All of that is why they have focused on questionable activities by the Oligarchs and their importance is being diminished.
Human trafficking center? You need to get out more. Thailand etc are worse. The "top ten" worst were Belarus, Central African Republic, China, Eritrea, Iran, North Korea, Russia, Sudan, Syria,and Venezuela. In that order. https://borgenproject.org/tag/worst-countries-for-human-trafficking/
The most recent listing from the USA state Department on human trafficking lists Ukraine as Tier 2 country along with countries like Italy,Germany, Israel, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland (TIER 3, the lowest are China, Russia, Eritrea, N. Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Nicaraugua and others) https://www.state.gov/reports/2021-trafficking-in-persons-report/
You will never change your mind about 2014. Poroschenko was elected after 2014. Zelensky was elected in 2019 defeating Poroschenko. So which one is/was the western puppet
BTW: SO you believe Putin should invade Moldova (which, BTW, is east of Ukraine) and Georgia and Ukraine and then Ukraine again now?
Conversations taken out of context of the times can appear to be something entirely different in retrospect.
So you condone what Putin is doing by bombing an OLDER independent country and its citizens because he is paranoid about the west attacking russia? Want to tell me when this has happened in the last 60 years?
You also condone pukeons statement that Ukraine is not a real country and has no right to exist? THAT is what he has said this about. Try to keep up, he has changed his reasons numerous times.
Tyrants/dictators become more and more isolated and paranoid over time, They think everyone is out to get them. The middle level KGB midget putin is no different.
Simple solution. Ukraine abides by the Minsk agreements that they signed & that the UN ratified. Bad things happen when you renege on peace agreements .
And with respect to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine what say you? You cite many things that on this thread that are unverifiable or from questionable sources. Happy for Russian invasion or not??
You seem to have cited conflicting sources. One says the worst are countries that are repeated as lowest on other sources. You yourself listed these, not me. bTW.
lol ... both are the same ... you didn't look .... its like a scale of 1-5 with 5 being bad ... and then switching to another survey rated from 1-5 and 1 is bad ...
T least as far as NATO is concerned, even if we ignore multiple reports of promises to fix NATO boundaries, we find that Gorbachev himself has this patently self-contadictory impression (quoted from your source). Don't miss "Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance"at the end:
"M.G.: The topic of “NATO expansion” was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a singe Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn’t bring it up, either. Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces from the alliance would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Baker’s statement, mentioned in your question, was made in that context. Kohl and [German Vice Chancellor Hans-Dietrich] Genscher talked about it."
Interesting, Texas. I knew Obama wanted to make a new world and was a suck face to "Pooty Poot" as the younger Bush called him, but the rest i would love to see exposed.
How could Zelensky avoid something that NATO did not stuck to way before he got elected in 2019 and that is actually a consequence of many centuries of geopolitical maneuvers? These type of comments make no sense. The Baltic states which btw were already occupied by the Soviet Union (under the auspices of the Velikaya Rus) never wanted to repeat this wonderful experience, so they campaigned along with the other so called Warsaw Pact countries that were suspicious (as we now know for the right reasons) of Russia to be in the NATO. What should have the NATO done? Not accepted them and leave them to be taken over by Russia like it already had done before!!!!???? (Not that that will not happen, no-one has too many illusions about this). Same for Georgia and Ukraine, as political units these lands just did not want to cooperate with an ever more authoritarian Russia. So how could Zelensky who was elected in 2019, avoid this????????? Dear previously logical people, who have been suspicious of Russia for decades, what is happening with your brains?????
The same people that bought and paid for allegiance with vaccines, are the same people you want us to now believe. NATO is a joke. Most members do not pay dues. These are the same countries that would now need to step up big and fight a war and fund it. This war is really a fight between Nazi eastern Ukraine and Putin the communist. Zelensky went to Nazis early on and asked they agree to ending war with Russia. Nope. Then those nice Nazis began to turn on Zelensky and that is when Zelensky chose the Nazis to survive. They are who he is now counting on.
Look McCain was constantly begging US to fund rebels. You know. The good guys. Every rebel group McCain and his shadow thought were worthy of praise and lots of money. The “good” guys did all the atrocious crap the bad guy Assad did. All these groups eventually turn on each other. The moment they have a parting of one voice, boom the fragmenting begins.
Putin is a thug. However our Biden is equally a thug. Thugs are running the world. They all point fingers at the other thug. I am sick of being played.
Read the 1994 Agreement. Did you know that Putin has offered 3 times in the last week and right after this started to withdraw if they would go back to the agreement. Things change in history. This was a more recent agreement. All Zelensky had to do was stick to what he inherited. They have been refusing to meet with Putin. He has said he was not trying to take the country, just wanted the agreement reinforced to protect Russia. Do you remember when Russia put missiles aimed at the US in 1962 on Cuba? We threatened war too if they didn't back off. this is the same situation. Ukraine needs to keep their word. There is massive corruption in Ukraine running this show.
6 months ago the O'Biden crew knew that the politics of Covid, and of everything else, were turning against them. Worst polling of any president in history, including Nixon when he left in the helicopter. So they started poking the Russian bear. They wanted three things: try to turn his approval around, try to distract everyone from their totalitarian fascist Covid war crimes and genocide, and get $300 oil so their Green New Scam "investments" look like they make any economic sense at all. As George Bush said, "Mission Accomplished". If you think these people give a *SINGLE SOLITARY FCUK* about actual people, from the people who were forced to inject their billionaire poison, to the people of Ukraine, to the middle class that will be bankrupted by energy prices and recession, to the tens of millions of people in the Third World WHO WILL STARVE IN A BIBLICAL FAMINE IF THEY DON'T GET RUSSIAN AND UKRAINIAN WHEAT IMMEDIATELY, then you are *HOPELESSLY DELUSIONAL*.
The blue and yellow flag is the new mask, just buy three or four of them AND WRAP YOURSELF UP IN THEM. You should be so proud: just like Covid, MURDERING PEOPLE AROUND THE GLOBE SO BILLIONAIRES CAN KEEP LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK
Very easy to explain: current Ukraine governement is scapegoated by people critical of globalism, corporate NGOs, post-democratic capitalism and so on for a very stupid reason:
"Bad Vlad" seemingly opposes the US-centered globalists. So therefore he must be the lesser evil.
That it can be both is simply to difficult to fathom, nor that as you correctly states Russia would have and will grab as much as it can untli forcibly stopped of the old Soviet territories.
We aw the same fluster-cluck about Jugoslavia back then. The EU, NATO, UN and so on all milled about trying to decide who's "the bad guy" and spouting - exactly as people are doing here - asininities about what happened 400 years ago.
Well, hey people who argues from a historical perspective, guess what you've forgotten? Who the Rus were. Read up on that, and by your own logic both Ukraine and Russia belongs to... Sweden.
Betcha these "WEF bad = Putin good" howler monkeys didn't think about that.
Sorry, yes, Zelensky was elected in 2019, not 1999. A slip up. For the rest of my sources - I can read in Russian, and I am from one of the former USSR countries and have long been familiar with the region, its history and global debates that it is involved in. I also have worked in the former Yugoslavian countries directly ravaged by war, so it infuriates me to read from all you arm-chair Russian politics experts, even though I still agree that one has to be very careful and triangulate information right now, and that the main-stream narrative is very limited. I feel like those who are skeptical around intervention in Ukraine that your sources are very limited too! I would hate it if the very worthy skepticism that one has acquired through following the adventures of the infectious agent SARS-CoV-2 would be directly transferred to being skeptical about a war, that at the moment has no end in sight.
I bow to your experience, but I too know Russians who tell me their views and I know the negative things about that country and Putin. Still I stand by the fact that both these countries are highly corrupt - maybe they all are including the US - but I just don't think it's something we should get in the middle of precisely for the reasons you give, but also because they are trying to force a new world order and either Ukraine keeps the 1994 boundaries and remains neutral and out of the corrupt NATO or joins the big boys trying to control us all.
We in the US want it simplified. The mainstream tells us THAT guy is the bad guy (a la Gaddafi, Saddam, Bin Laden, Castro...) and must be stopped at all costs. He's painted as a mad-man and all past history can be ignored. Stopping the mad-man keeps us all glued to the news which fills the day with 24/7 stories of the mad-man's actions while conveniently ignoring the other problems in our own country, like a failing economy, failed medical policies, endless political corruption... Especially with a mid-term election coming that doesn't look good for the party in power. Gotta rally around the flag and against the madman.
I am a complete skeptic on the information we have received to date on Ukraine. I encourage every Covid skeptic to become a Ukraine skeptic. I am watching and reading and trying to identify reliable sources.
I also encourage all able to afford it to find a reliable NGO and donate to refugee relief. This is another human tragedy playing out on our screens. I only wish there was some way to help the Russian protesters arrested since the invasion commenced.
Ahhhh what part of “not sticking” exempts Russia in your erudite observation? Russia was a signatory in 1994 as well. And surely if Ukraine was a centre of organised criminal activity then in any objective comparison Moscow is the HQ. Putin has taken corruption, nepotism, organised murder to a new plane. The irony of using Chechyans as hitmen must have escaped him. Wasn’t it the Chechyans who he blamed (more accurately hired) to kill the Russian Opposition leader on that bridge beside the Kremlin? He is not only Joe Stalin reincarnated ( probably something he believes) but he is Joe Stalin and the Gambino crime family rolled into one. I suggest with respect you go and educate yourself. A good place to start would be a Roger Underwood’s article “Russia’s Yen to Rebuild a house of Cards”; QUADRANT ON LINE. surely the take away from all this is DONT GIVE UP YOUR NUKES
Never said Russia or Putin were anything but criminal - however when you break a pact with a KGB thug what do you expect him to do - he is destroying bio/Chem labs: https://www.defenseworld.net/news/31520
Ukraine is a major hub for child trafficking/drugs and equally criminal people. My point is they had an agreement we all broke. These are two corrupt countries and we need to stay out of it.
If you think Ukraine is innocent, it is you who need an education. Have you see since Day 2 of this Putin said he'd withdraw - stop the missiles pointing at Russia - what did JFK do in 1962? Same thing with Cuba. Get out or else.
The Biden regime does everything possible to limit US oil production while floating the idea Russian oil sanctions will really stick it to Putin. A new round of pain seems to be directed at the same people covid tyranny was pointed at.
just like canada. you can no longer have a sign or flag that criticizes Trudeau, otherwise you will be arrested and T just have a speech supporting ukraine and democracy
Yes, a bunch of very rich people fighting against each other for control. WHATEVER happens to the great unwashed is “collateral damage.” They don’t care if someone’s 10 month old son gets shot in the head, just like the thousands, if not millions, that die or have life changing side effects because of the EMERGENCY jabs! What happens to us is not their concern.
Even a lot of that is theatre. For example, this is staged propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT1_DeXUyU4&lc=UgzCTKcx0LXgHRjqXmt4AaABAg.9ZFtcfpmlwc9ZHDw-fev5T To see what I mean, look at their "shelling victims". Note how they don't have a scratch on them, how their clothing is totally clean, how they look like they just laid down for a snooze, and how no one around them seems bothered by them or is reacting like they too might be shelled. Do an image search for "blast injuries" and "shrapnel injuries", and compare how they look to the BBC story's "shelling victims".
Also keep in mind, the Russians have every incentive to avoid killing civilians (it's a bad look, killing civilians makes the country harder to pacify and it's a waste of munitions that could be used against targets of military value) while the Ukrainians have every incentive to cause them (and blame the Russians because it makes the Russians look evil) *and* to keep people from leaving cities so they can serve as human shields.
I like how the Press person is lying on the ground with his microphone, as if bullets are flying overhead. Meanwhile, in the real world people were walking by not in any hurry. Merely on their way somewhere. They probably had been told to move out to a shelter, they were in no immediate danger, and they likely weren't even thrilled about doing that.
You're correct I believe. The way the Russian military is surrounding them while keeping a green zone open is a big tell. Unharmed passage before the Russians wrap things up. That may take weeks and not because the Ukrainian military is holding them off, but because Putin doesn't want what you said.
These types of misguided views and uneducated comments are what fuel the dictators of this world. Civilian casualties by the invading force are sought after as they demoralize and tie up valuable resourcing for the front line? Dude give your head a shake out of your ass and learn a few basics. This incursion will be ever lasting and in my experience you are the same persons that will cry foul because you have pay 4 or 5 dollars a gallon for fuel while innocent people are used to advance nothing more but fear amongst people. Whatever rock you crawled out from underneath, it's still free so please crawl back under it and we'll give you a heads up when you can come out and play.
For the past ten years and longer, Putin has been saying that his country will not allow any government to place nuclear weapons on the Russian border. Obviously, he means what he says. You haven't figured that out yet?
Nothing emotional RonaldB just the real world...look it up it's between A and Z in our language and obviously your 10 word reply is indicative of IQ. Keep 'er up we need more like you to use as a front line shield anyways.
Nah. You think your emotions are important to everyone else. They aren't. Only logic and facts. You have a rather shallow world view, so you translate it to your emotions and communicate your emotions. Not convincing.
Ethnic Russians are half the population. Most ethnic Ukrainians have many family members that are Russian. Putin is not going to do mass civilian casualties. There is nothing in it for him. Would he, if he had to? Sure. As would Zelenko. We aren't dealing with nice people over there. Any leader on any side anywhere in that region is corrupt, on the take, murderous, and likely sociopathic. As far as the incursion being everlasting...sure, why not? Russia will not allow the US to set up bases in Ukraine any more than the US was going to allow Russian bases in Cuba. Does the world need a Zelenko running Ukraine, is it really important? Does it need a Putin running it? Is that terrible. They're both bad. This is a non event in the goings on of the world, unless Stupid Joe turns it into a conflagaration to go up in the polls.
Will do. I also hate the vaccine pushers because they force their products onto those who don't want them and cover up all the bad reactions. These are real crimes.
There is a whole "school of thought" along these lines called "useful idiots" for a reason. You can see some stark examples of its representatives here every time Alex touches upon this subject. What's wrong with their personal lives? A subject for further studies.
Those servants "we pay" in the swamp almost always sit and watch the innocents dying. How many did they watch in the great scamdemic die in nursing homes, and all the 80-85% (according to Risch and McCullough www.earlycovidcare.org) who did not have to die IF they had had access to early effective and cheap treatment options the mafia like MEDICAL-PHARMA industrial complex suppressed and had gag orders on medical personnel if they wanted to save lives. Where was the GOP (non rino's) stepping up to stop all of these ongoing crimes against humanity? All they did was rant and huff and puff and not ONE perp whom we all know are responsible has been held to account. I mean WTF! So now its all these same people "we pay" sitting and watching all these innocents in the Ukraine to die day after day once again. We know what would end this and we have since before it began, but yet it's simply allowed by those "we pay" to serve us. What a country!
Like grains of sand on the seashore, seems like they are never ending.....there’s plenty more where those came from. A few thousand, million won’t make Any difference. This is the mindset of these rich elitist. We serve them literally and figuratively from the time they wake up in the morning until they go to bed......and they don’t really SEE any of us! Even the ones they use to punish us are actually US.
If enough of US ever got organized enough, this whole picture would change. Common Sense. 🤷♀️
Forest for the trees...forest for the trees. Remember Putin's Russia is simply a large gas station. The entirety of Russia GDP is similar to simply California. Beware the illusions-smoke screens and keep your eye on what is in reality at stake in the bigger picture. Agenda 2030...
Germany went GREEN, and had their asses handed to them. "Green" Energy is as red on the inside as a watermelon. If it worked so well, why was Nord Stream 2 project so important?
They really screwed themselves by taking their functioning and well-kempt nuke plants offline because... Because? They caved on the final three that were supposed to go dead this year.
You probably meant that we are "funding" Russia's war. Which we are. For no sane reason.
Sadly, it is probable that if our rulers and their tame media keep escalating the war, Russia's war will find us. Does anyone believe that Mr. Putin will hesitate to push the red button?
Russian oil sanctions while doing everything they can to limit US oil production seems designed to purposely wreck the economy, similar to covid lockdowns. Western appetite for covid lockdowns ran out, so this is their new wrecking ball.
Klaus and Fauci must love it as Putin becomes the media scapegoat for all the damage.
No one is willing to stop buying gas from Russia because this is another media driven hysteria. Or they'd stop buying gas from Russia. Seems pretty clear to me
Instead they are pretending that the problems of the last year are because of the last two weeks. In this article is a video of Psaki saying just that, along with a bonus video of Fauci STILL claiming the vax stops spread!
I’m going to have to take your word on it. Psaki is so condescending I want to throw up and if I have to look at Fauci on purpose I might have to fling myself out a window. I believe what you say, so, please keep on doing what you’re doing and I’ll nail the window shut!
Next question, who made it possible for Russian oil to be on the market making beaucoup $$$? Same guy that helped get the Nord Stream 2 project underway (BIDEN), was the same guy taking away leases on US soil, and CANCELED OUR PIPELINE DAY 1.
One wants the total destruction of the United States and is willing to sell it whole sale. The other sees that they are spineless cucks and they are selling it bits at a time so they can escape the consequences of their inaction.
Correct. Also see Kyle Becker Substack. See Political Moonshine website. It’s all there. Putin called it a Special Operation from the start. Now we know what he meant.
I'm not so sure it would be accurate to characterize the war in Ukraine as "Putin's war". War has been going on in Ukraine since 2014. The event that precipitated it was the Euromaidan coup, which was orchestrated in part by the US State Department and NGOs with backing from the likes of the CIA and George Soros, a guy who has openly boasted many times about how good his organizations have become over the years at fostering color revolutions. It doesn't look to me like Putin has been playing the role of warmonger in the Ukrainian civil war either. By all accounts, it was Putin's government that brokered the negotiations that resulted in two cease fire accords (Minsk I and Minsk II). These cease-fire agreements failed to keep the peace, but from what I gather, there is credible evidence that the blame for that failure belongs to the Ukrainian side (especially with the neo-fascist, Nazi-inspired, Ukrainian ultra-nationalist Azov Battalion, which has been formally integrated into Ukraine's military and has been stationed in the Donbas, astride the breakaway republics of Luhansk and Donetsk for years).
All true. But actually, as I wrote very early today, look back to the Russian Revolution. When the Khazarian Mafia, most who came from Ukraine, crushed the Russian people and installed Lenin in power. Russia has a history of “long knives.” And long memories. There you will find the real “headwaters” of the conflict. Which has been ongoing ever since.
Such a tired, tired narrative. Putin bad! Ukraine innocent! Lol. Ukraine. Totally corrupt, bribe-taking, human-trafficking, Russian-civilian-killing, exemplary humanitarian country. I suppose if Russia was hoping to get missiles back to Cuba, the US would be just fine with it? Oh, and let's not forget that Putin was basically put in power by the US 20 years ago. Geopolitical theater. All of it. Notice how COVID has just disappeared from the "news". It's all Ukraine now. Rather convenient for the psychopaths that put us through hell for 2 years over a lab-created virus that is ultimately about as dangerous as the flu. Good thing billions of people got injected with synthetic genetic coding that over the last 2 decades proved dangerous to the point Moderna was going out of business....but then it magically worked for Covid! Good thing we have the FDA to tell is it's "safe" after 60 days of shotty safety data. Good thing!
Excellent comment, Terry. How the average person, let alone a supposedly well-educated person like Alex, can take any of this nonsense at face value is perplexing.
One would think that Alex, fresh off all the propaganda and lies about Covid and the "vaccines", would have a slightly more cynical eye toward all the Ukraine propaganda being pushed by the exact same sources.
It seems like we need some sort of mass civil (peaceful) rebellion (is that an oxymoron??) to get these US and Canadian governments to toe our line. We have been far too accommodating of their lies this last 2 years, so now they lie even more. How to stop it?
If it weren't for Obama tricking Medvedev into supporting the destruction of Libya, Putin would likely not have returned to the Presidency at all. After that, Medvedev was widely viewed as a useful idiot of the Americans and could no longer hold power.
So Alex, it's pretty obvious that this was all theatre. You don't telegraph your cards to an "enemy".
The US blocking their own keystone pipeline, while simultaneously approving the Russian pipeline just a year ago....Makes. Zero. Sense. From a standpoint of isolating a "rogue" nation like Russia. In fact it is the OPPOSITE action that should have been conducted....But this was intentional.
Agenda 2030.Have to destroy all existing semblance of a system in order to build back better. This was all telegraphed for how long now and the sheep just kept grazing...
So the media was uniformly "pro vaccine" in 2021 - from FOX to MSNBC. Now, the media is uniformly "pro war with Russia" here in early 2022. Do they have any credibility at all? Not with me. I'm just assuming the media is running yet another con. Liars gonna lie, as they say.
Next up: "The Russians are throwing Babies out of Incubators!" Just like what happened to kick off The Iraq War 1 under the guy now known as Saint Bush the First.
Just like the media relied entirely on public health experts they liked for covid news, they're now getting all their war news from ukranian authorities. I trust it about as much ie not at all. and that includes the lying ukranian president. He's Andrew Cuomo all over again
Now we're talking of a govt. in exile, even if sans Shillensky, to prolong yet another synthetic crisis. Gangland Games against all us Smerfs... lock n' load the Nerf guns.
Give Trump credit when he called out the idiocy of the German leadership wanting the U.S. to protect them from Russia while at the same time the German leadership was making Germany dependent on Russian energy.
His comment was also a swipe at NATO, as in, "Why do we still have a military alliance created to defend against the USSR, a nation that no longer exists? For some reason, NATO has been repurposed as an anti-Russia military alliance, but Russia isn't our enemy, it doesn't have an aggressive posture toward the West and in fact we trade quite a lot with them." He was making good points back in 2016.
Now you know why they hated Trump so much that they plotted to destroy his Presidency and impeached him - twice. Trump just used common sense. Trump would have had no problem guaranteeing that Ukraine wasn't going to be part of NATO. So Putin would never have invaded.
Shouldn't that tell you something about the vast disparity between the carefully crafted optics you're allowed to see and the reality in this conflict? If you'd get the hook out of your mouth, AB, there are deeper waters in which you might swim.
This I have not confirmed, so it is alleged. But it makes sense:
"The US government has allowed American companies to continue buying Russian oil via third-country banks, which have not joined in on sanctions against Russia. In effect, American companies will now pay unaffiliated banks for Russian oil, and that money will then be transferred to Russia.
Bankers in Hong Kong have already offered lucrative conditions as intermediaries.
In essence, Americans will now pay more for Russian oil, China-controlled banks will get a fat cut, and Russia will get just as much money as it did previously."
I believe they are direct bank to bank transactions issued in US dollars (often referred to as Petrodollars). SWIFT is a messaging system used to initiate certain interbank transactions (e.g., Credit Card Transaction) but oil transactions do not go through this system. SWIFT sanctions will do more to hurt the average Russian citizen.
I can vouch for the sanctions hurting Ukrainian citizens, too. A friend who runs a home for aged out orphans (16 year olds) is unable to access his charitable funds because they come from a Russian church.
Is the US oil / natural gas the only ones that affects the so called climate change. I guess Russia, Iran, and Venezuela oil doesn't affect the global climate so we can just buy from them. Go figure.
We have oil and gas here. We do not need it from any other country! Someone please tell the dumbo lefties, including the Biden Admin, that our "global economy" they love to talk about all share the same globe, i.e. Climate. Our energy is cleaner. Why are we begging tyrants for their oil? Biden and his Admin. are a National Disgrace.
Meanwhile the sanctions that do work are harming regular Russian citizens. Honestly, when I didn't think American foreign policy could be anymore stupid, we sink to an even lower rung of stupidity.
Peace talks work, people, and so does honoring one's word.
The US provoked the current situation by expanding NATO to Russia's borders and by aiding Ukraine in their 8 year attack on ethnic Russians in the Donbas
If NATO engages in a direct attack on Russian forces, something Mr. Berenson appears to support, it will mean nuclear war
My apologies, but Russia is a sh*thole and Ukraine is a sh*thole.
I don't see why we need to destroy the planet in a nuclear holocaust over this
Let’s say for a second (as a given) that one believes in climate change and that oil/gas = bad. Biden is begging foreign countries (enemies) to pump more oil to meet US demand. Since climate is global, oil is bad, how does a non-US producer impact the GLOBAL climate any LESS than if the US were doing it themselves. What am I missing here?
Also, this could've been easily avoided if we weren't so arrogant (and the military contractors weren't so GREEDY). Just stop cornering Russians, but then who's going to be the boogieman?(we're not ready to change it to China yet - though by the time we are, it'll be TOO LATE)
Just exactly when has the government or the msm told the truth about anything? I don't believe a word they say and I'm positive they always have an agenda that is not going to help the American people.
I agree - thankfully I have a sister as well as a physical therapist friend who were against the shots from the beginning - we get to vent about all of this. I wish I had not fallen for the fear propaganda……
2 Moderna shots, absolutely no booster! Buyers remorse with no recourse to correct the possible future damage…….😡
I was somewhat concerned for about two weeks, but never bought anything - no masks or jabs. I've been very suspicious of the government and the media for some time. Not bragging, just lucky. My family is like minded, thankfully. And I have a few friends that are too. But I admit that its a good thing others can't read my mind and see how much contempt I have.
You are one of the few that will admit their mistake. Most are virtue signaling and holding on to their security blanket for dear life. I range from pity to disdain, but I don't engage much. It's impossible to have discussions anymore.
As a US taxpayer I identify very much with the Russian Federation. The entire US political class has treated both of us like garbage for decades. Ukraine is a US colony which is being used as a base for US regime change in Russia. US constantly sends billions of tax dollars to Ukraine and no one knows where they go. US violently overthrew Ukraine's elected government in 2014 and installed a puppet who gave Ukraine oligarchs whatever they wanted. This is about US seeking regime change in Moscow followed by total submission to the US as they were under Yeltsin.
I am with you Susan. Though I would caution that Putin is not the good guy in all of this. Russia and Ukraine and America (governments) can all be to blame here. I am on the side of George Washington. Leave European wars to the Europeans. We have enough problems to occupy us right here in the United States. We should disband the CIA so they stop messing with foreign elections. I suspect that they even used their knowledge of how to subvert elections in the 2020 US election too. Even more argument to disband them.
This is dumb. I fail to see how backing the KGB thug dictator Putin is in any freedom loving citizen of the world's interest. There is no regime change in Ukraine impacting Russia other than it has elections and democratic institutions.
The US did not overthrow Ukraine's puppet president in 2014. The installed-puppet benefitted from election fraud. Some people are so stuck in ignorance to repeat this tired tripe is pathetic. The people in Ukraine turned out in the hundreds of thousands not unlike the overthrow of the Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt. That's the parallel not your propaganda.
The pro-Russia thug shot protestors in the capitol and then in the dead of night left his compound and private zoo behind fleeing to.... wait for it... Russia. He also stole billions out of the country in the process. Lay off the Oliver Stone conspiracies.
So, there's a little truth for you. Try to keep up.
In 2014 US certainly overthrew Ukraine's elected governor. "Yats" was US choice for new PM per Victoria Nuland. As Nuland said, US spent $5 billion US tax dollars on Ukraine since 1991--it's not a secret. Per NY Times, Yats gave Ukr. oligarchs whatever they wanted. After thousands stood in Maidan for months in the cold, they were dismayed to find things worse than ever--also public record. As a US taxpayer, I'm forced to finance the US military dictatorship and its global "regime change' genocide machine . This can't be changed by elections, too much money in it. Someone has to stop the US Deep State ASAP. Americans should be able to vote to remain neutral vs wars.
Incorrect. Hundreds of thousands of people rose up against the installed election fraud Prez. It was Putin's thug choice. it wasn't thousands in the cold protesting; it was hundreds of thousands and they were unhappy they would not see government move toward an EU application. They were less happy when they started being shot in the center of Kyiv. Yanukovych fled in the dead of night when even shooting protestors didn't silence them. You're just not there with these simple facts.
Yes, absolutely is fact that Yanu. fled, and that there were snipers shooting at both police and protesters, and the crowds were massive, absolutely. What happened after that is the issue. The citizens got new government absolutely, but new PM Yatsenyuk was selected by US Nuland. Fine, then voters elected Pres. Poroshenko. But, NY Times reported Yats wasn't able to let go of his oligarch cronies, so protesters were shafted. Poroshenko was a known commodity, but also shafted protesters. You may have read recently that Zelensky wanted to arrest Poroshenko. After 2014 Ukraine decided to accept loans from IMF, but IMF terms were very painful. As of 2015, 80-85% of gdp was still controlled by Ukraine oligarchs. The banking and judiciary were still hopelessly corrupt. Per Atlantic, members of Ukr. parliament each keep around $700,000 at home. I have no disagreement with you about what led up to 2014.
Is Alex actually suggesting Europe stop all gas imports from Russia and freeze to death, just to show Putin they are against his invasion of Ukraine .... which is actually a consequence of NATO expansion. Where is the rationale?
The people actually running our country are far from stupid. They’re sociopaths who made a calculated decision to ‘end our reliance’ on fossil fuels. It ties in very nicely with their false canards of how we betrayed nature and now nature will seek its revenge. They grew restless and agitated when the commoners didn’t take them seriously. That is the reason we got a lab created virus and were told to believe that it was the direct result of our unnatural interactions with the environment.
I had to pay $4.50 per gallon of gas today all because of a country that does not have anything to do with my security or vital interests. The US should get its big nose the hell out of Ukraine and stop antagonizing Russia. I do not want to pay with either my money or the lives of the young people in my country for the ego trip US political leaders have by being belligerent towards Russia.
Agreed, but the last 50 cents got tacked on this past week because of the stupidity of US governments going back to Clinton in abrogating the 1991 agreement that NATO would not expand into the countries neighboring Russia. Along with installing a Ukranian government hostile to Russia after sponsoring a coup there in 2014. Now after 30 years of antagonizing the country, and over $6 billion in war armaments sent there during the last 7 years, is it any wonder that Russia finally put its foot down when NATO was considering putting offensive ballistic missiles in Ukraine ?And instead of recognizing this war is a direct result of their policies, does the US and NATO declare no offensive missiles in countries neighboring Russia and end the war immediately thereafter ? No, instead they throw all kinds of sanctions on Russia to antagonize them even more, and crude oil shoots to $130 a barell on its way to $200 !!
Its totally insane and I am sick of the US government making ever possible move to destroy the welfare of the country's people, from porous borders that surely are allowing terrorists free entry to the States, to locking down businesses without making a dent in new Covid cases, to advocating dangerous poisons they call vaccines, to now making me pay $4.50 a gallon and probably more soon.
The American people don't need a war with Russia over Ukraine, a country that has no security or vital national interest to the US. What the American people need is a war on the morons in Washington, to politically cleanse these corrupt bastards who can't do enough to destroy this country.
And to add insult to injury, the fool in the White House is about to close his nuclear deal with our sworn enemy in a deal that’s being negotiated by THE RUSSIANS! Can anyone wrap their head around that abomination? I can’t!
Is it me, or does it seem like everything going on in this country for the last few years is completely without logic ? Its as if the US government is being held hostage by some alien force from outer space that is threatening to wipe out the country if the government doesn't choose the most ridiculous options available. I'm not a young guy, so I've seen a lot of things happen in this country during my life. But never have I seen a government and governments elsewhere in the world act with such total disregard for reason and historical precedent.
It’s not just you. It’s like we’re in some bizarro world and I think it’s just going to get worse. I was watching an interview and the woman they were interviewing said the Russia invasion has just changed the world order. I think she’s right, but it won’t be in a good way. Prepare for impact.
Sadly I think you are spot on. Prepare for impact is good advice. The willingness of some governments of the world to get involved in affairs that jeopardize humanity, from bio-weapons research to meddling in the politics of other countries in order to gain geo-political influence, is astoundingly dangerous.
This was a planned war in that (1) as we cut our current and future energy production, Russia was given an opportunity to invade. (2) Russia has always made it clear that it considers Ukraine, if not part of Russia, part of the Russian sphere of influence. By bringing the Baltic states into NATO, for what reason it is unknown, and flirting with Ukraine, we provoked Russia to act. That is not apologizing for Putin and Russian aggression, it is simply stating an obvious fact. Unless we had gamed out how we were going to stop this, in advance, we were foolish, or naive, about our dealings with Ukraine. Or (3) it was known what was going to happen and the military, political, economic complex is going to make a lot of money on this war. Unless and until we truly block Russia off from the world markets and stop the flow of energy, I think (3) is most likely.
We are saddled with the worst, most incompetent, ignorant set of world leaders in memory. And as Texas 1130 said, below, they're not only incompetent, they're corrupt. Unfortunately, our lamestream media is merely fanning the flames. Shades of Hearst and Pulitzer, and the Spanish American War. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
We don't need you to join the warmongers, Alex. Aren't there enough of them? After seeing the COVID work in action, hard to believe you're being duped by what's happening in Europe.
It seems the "leadership" of the U.S. and the West, the globalists, the deep staters, are fine with lots of people being killed and displaced. Hey, we just created a few hundred thousand more refugees than what we'd planned in Afghanistan and "rebranded" it as the largest airlift. Everything will be FINE. We'll just have Catholic Charities and the vast U.S. gov't-funded (read: taxpayer-funded) refugee apparatus bring in more to America. No problemo. Americans are willing to pay a little more for a "good cause."
None of what's happening had to happen. This working to ramp up the sanctions now (how is that not a declaration of war?) rather than seriously trying to ratchet this down immediately (or, again, PREVENTED THIS) indicates war was the goal. We're hearing more and more about a no-fly zone -- in fact, the Ukrainian president is DEMANDING it of the West. More ramping up war.
Seems like all the techniques used during COVID are in full play.
Horrible that people are paying the price with their lives for the monsters playing a chessboard.
Statement on Russian-Ukrainian Crisis Vigano Mar 7 2022
Letter from Archbishop Viganon regarding situation in Ukraine
And with all the American companies refusing to do business in Russia, boy does China have it made. Pangea-East gets Europe and Asia. Pangea-West, woke North America and South America. We lose. (But that was the plan all along.)
Russia and China are creating the Global south ...They are headed toward a total union....This is a transfer of wealth to them....meanwhile many people will starve because countries are not allowing more food to be grown..like
Germany ........ right now ...the farmers are furious....not being allowed to grow more food or import means the Cabal wants to take control of the land and be in control of the food supply...all a part of the Great Reset The Cabal is following a script...To bring in the Reset of control.....All this was planned to the smallest degree....
This Global South will be the death knell for the US economy. For forty years the US has been able to spend whatever it wanted and run up a $30 trillion government debt because the cheap labor countries would invest their dollar-based trade surpluses in dollar-based investments, most notably US government debt securities. If they no longer have trade surpluses in dollars because they focus on trading within their new alliance, or if they decide to invest their dollar-based trade surpluses within their new alliance, the US will have few good options to finance its existing debt as well as its ongoing deficits.
The US then would have to print money to finance its debts and deficits, leading to skyrocketing inflation that will destroy the US economy. Or they'll have to cut spending drastically, which also would reduce a major source of consumption from the GDP equation leading to significant economic downturn. If their past record of budgeting is any indication of what to expect in the future, it will be imposible for the clowns in Washington to cut spending by the amount they would have to cut to balance their budget.
Its kind of ironic in a way. The US defeated the Soviets in the Cold War by forcing the Soviets to spend far more than they could afford on their military, resulting in the bankruptcy of the USSR. Now the Russians have returned the favor, luring the US into a trap whereby the non-aligned nations would see the danger of financially supporting a nation who will try to destroy the economy of any nation that does not bow down to US foreign policy, as hypoctritical as that policy may be.
The chickens are coming home to roost for the US. The laws of economic nature will soon make the country pay for their government's foolish arrogance of many years.
Sadly for the 'leaders', they don't understand that the 'little people' are far more clever than the elites and will simply work around stupid 'plans' for us.
the duran on rumble has had the best commentary on this issue i've seen, and it offers an alternative perspective to that being disseminated in the institutional press. if they're correct, and russia is not acting out of a desire for conquest, the conflict will be inflamed in direct proportion to the "toughness" of western response to it.
President Putin has taught all the world's governments that he will not allow any of them to place nuclear weapons on Russia's border just like U.S. presidents will not allow any foreign government to place nuclear weapons and military installations on U.S. borders. Let's hope that the brainwashed Americans and Europeans are able to understand that two plus two equals four.
Theatre, all of it. Except for the innocent people dying.
Yup, and it's about reshaping the NWO, period. And the little people get F**ked.
Zelensky could have avoided all of it if Ukraine, UK, US, NATO had just stuck to the 1994 agreement, which all of them have broken. Zelensky's a high-heel-wearing puppet. 2014 Obama came in with his thugs and threw out the good elected president and Ukraine became the bio/chem lab/money laundering/human trafficking center of the world. You know why they don't want it brought down? It will expose all of these illegal criminal players including the sons of Biden, Romney and Pelosi being paid millions by Ukrainian oil. As Twistertim says NWO - all of it. Wake up and turn off the lying media or combat them with truth.
Exactly. The general public will not turn off msm. It is easier to call the truth conspiracy. Why? Because the truth is freaking mind blowing unbelievably scary.
And……Military Grade Mass Mind Control/ Psychosis
Actually the only people who watch MSM work in the gov and live in the suburbs of DC- they don’t give two shits what the people of Tenessee think- or the rest of the country for that matter
I bet'cha bunches in Kalifornia and NYC watch it, too. They're just as f'd up.
I live NW of Syracuse and most i work with are brainwashed too. I mean, free thinkers. Yeah, that's the ticket. Too smart to be duped fer sher
No I know lots of people who still watch or say they “just turn it in for the news” I.e. implying not for the celeb stuff but they still think they get news from it.
At least I've noticed that waiting and dining rooms seem to be keeping the TV's off of the MSM. About time.
Insanity is contagious.
actually, yes. it its.
as someone once wrote, men go insane in herds and return to sanity slowly and one by one.
Of course, everyone is surprised that Obummer did all those horribly crooked things. 🙄
Sarcasm noted
almost everything you said has been identified as russian disinformation.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/
Yanukobitch was re-packaged by Manafort as a pro-european President. When he turned and went towards russia he reneged on why he was elected and the people were upset. He left the country in the middle of the night after months of protest. The "coup" never entered the Presidential office, RADA (Congress) or Government buildings (It was less violent than 1/6 until Yanikobitch starting shooting at people.)
Hunter was paid by Burisma (nt the Ukrainian Government). Burisma hired him to hopefully protect them against the anti-corruption people who were coming into the Ukrainian government after Poroschenko was elected.
You need to look at the dates of your "biolab" scandal .... It is also very difficult to money launder through Ukraine
Cash coming in of more than $10,000 is reported. Any money wired in is looked at very closely to protect against corruption over the lasts several years.
Most of the questionable Oligarchs , like Kolomoisky IMO, actually sent money into the USA for "laundering". Most Oligarchs keep their money outside of Ukraine (Monaco, Dubai, UK, Switzerland). All of that is why they have focused on questionable activities by the Oligarchs and their importance is being diminished.
Human trafficking center? You need to get out more. Thailand etc are worse. The "top ten" worst were Belarus, Central African Republic, China, Eritrea, Iran, North Korea, Russia, Sudan, Syria,and Venezuela. In that order. https://borgenproject.org/tag/worst-countries-for-human-trafficking/
The most recent listing from the USA state Department on human trafficking lists Ukraine as Tier 2 country along with countries like Italy,Germany, Israel, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland (TIER 3, the lowest are China, Russia, Eritrea, N. Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Nicaraugua and others) https://www.state.gov/reports/2021-trafficking-in-persons-report/
You will never change your mind about 2014. Poroschenko was elected after 2014. Zelensky was elected in 2019 defeating Poroschenko. So which one is/was the western puppet
Brookings is a leftist think tank. I don’t trouble myself to read their propaganda, however their proclaimed “expertise” in geopolitical thought.
Rubbish, Russia had a cascade of assurances that NATO would not expand eastward, with many documents that prove it.
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
https://warontherocks.com/2019/11/promises-made-promises-broken-what-yeltsin-was-told-about-nato-in-1993-and-why-it-matters-2/ ,,,
BTW: SO you believe Putin should invade Moldova (which, BTW, is east of Ukraine) and Georgia and Ukraine and then Ukraine again now?
Conversations taken out of context of the times can appear to be something entirely different in retrospect.
So you condone what Putin is doing by bombing an OLDER independent country and its citizens because he is paranoid about the west attacking russia? Want to tell me when this has happened in the last 60 years?
You also condone pukeons statement that Ukraine is not a real country and has no right to exist? THAT is what he has said this about. Try to keep up, he has changed his reasons numerous times.
Tyrants/dictators become more and more isolated and paranoid over time, They think everyone is out to get them. The middle level KGB midget putin is no different.
Simple solution. Ukraine abides by the Minsk agreements that they signed & that the UN ratified. Bad things happen when you renege on peace agreements .
Yeah,Brookings.No thanks…
Yes, Brookings, Strobe Talbott and, no doubt, Hillary are on the side of the angels here 😂
And with respect to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine what say you? You cite many things that on this thread that are unverifiable or from questionable sources. Happy for Russian invasion or not??
Sounds like propaganda coming from the globalist regime.
You seem to have cited conflicting sources. One says the worst are countries that are repeated as lowest on other sources. You yourself listed these, not me. bTW.
lol ... both are the same ... you didn't look .... its like a scale of 1-5 with 5 being bad ... and then switching to another survey rated from 1-5 and 1 is bad ...
You listed China in Tier 1 and Tier 3 both.
I didnt do anything... the ratings and rating sources are what they are
T least as far as NATO is concerned, even if we ignore multiple reports of promises to fix NATO boundaries, we find that Gorbachev himself has this patently self-contadictory impression (quoted from your source). Don't miss "Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance"at the end:
"M.G.: The topic of “NATO expansion” was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a singe Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn’t bring it up, either. Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces from the alliance would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Baker’s statement, mentioned in your question, was made in that context. Kohl and [German Vice Chancellor Hans-Dietrich] Genscher talked about it."
Interesting, Texas. I knew Obama wanted to make a new world and was a suck face to "Pooty Poot" as the younger Bush called him, but the rest i would love to see exposed.
So much deeper and darker than that, the half-white gay boy is.
How could Zelensky avoid something that NATO did not stuck to way before he got elected in 2019 and that is actually a consequence of many centuries of geopolitical maneuvers? These type of comments make no sense. The Baltic states which btw were already occupied by the Soviet Union (under the auspices of the Velikaya Rus) never wanted to repeat this wonderful experience, so they campaigned along with the other so called Warsaw Pact countries that were suspicious (as we now know for the right reasons) of Russia to be in the NATO. What should have the NATO done? Not accepted them and leave them to be taken over by Russia like it already had done before!!!!???? (Not that that will not happen, no-one has too many illusions about this). Same for Georgia and Ukraine, as political units these lands just did not want to cooperate with an ever more authoritarian Russia. So how could Zelensky who was elected in 2019, avoid this????????? Dear previously logical people, who have been suspicious of Russia for decades, what is happening with your brains?????
The same people that bought and paid for allegiance with vaccines, are the same people you want us to now believe. NATO is a joke. Most members do not pay dues. These are the same countries that would now need to step up big and fight a war and fund it. This war is really a fight between Nazi eastern Ukraine and Putin the communist. Zelensky went to Nazis early on and asked they agree to ending war with Russia. Nope. Then those nice Nazis began to turn on Zelensky and that is when Zelensky chose the Nazis to survive. They are who he is now counting on.
Look McCain was constantly begging US to fund rebels. You know. The good guys. Every rebel group McCain and his shadow thought were worthy of praise and lots of money. The “good” guys did all the atrocious crap the bad guy Assad did. All these groups eventually turn on each other. The moment they have a parting of one voice, boom the fragmenting begins.
Putin is a thug. However our Biden is equally a thug. Thugs are running the world. They all point fingers at the other thug. I am sick of being played.
If people don't believe the Nazis you talk about, they need to read the history of the Khazarian Nazis, a very evil bunch: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/02/25/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/
Read the 1994 Agreement. Did you know that Putin has offered 3 times in the last week and right after this started to withdraw if they would go back to the agreement. Things change in history. This was a more recent agreement. All Zelensky had to do was stick to what he inherited. They have been refusing to meet with Putin. He has said he was not trying to take the country, just wanted the agreement reinforced to protect Russia. Do you remember when Russia put missiles aimed at the US in 1962 on Cuba? We threatened war too if they didn't back off. this is the same situation. Ukraine needs to keep their word. There is massive corruption in Ukraine running this show.
6 months ago the O'Biden crew knew that the politics of Covid, and of everything else, were turning against them. Worst polling of any president in history, including Nixon when he left in the helicopter. So they started poking the Russian bear. They wanted three things: try to turn his approval around, try to distract everyone from their totalitarian fascist Covid war crimes and genocide, and get $300 oil so their Green New Scam "investments" look like they make any economic sense at all. As George Bush said, "Mission Accomplished". If you think these people give a *SINGLE SOLITARY FCUK* about actual people, from the people who were forced to inject their billionaire poison, to the people of Ukraine, to the middle class that will be bankrupted by energy prices and recession, to the tens of millions of people in the Third World WHO WILL STARVE IN A BIBLICAL FAMINE IF THEY DON'T GET RUSSIAN AND UKRAINIAN WHEAT IMMEDIATELY, then you are *HOPELESSLY DELUSIONAL*.
The blue and yellow flag is the new mask, just buy three or four of them AND WRAP YOURSELF UP IN THEM. You should be so proud: just like Covid, MURDERING PEOPLE AROUND THE GLOBE SO BILLIONAIRES CAN KEEP LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK
Bravo! I'm standing to applaud.
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Very easy to explain: current Ukraine governement is scapegoated by people critical of globalism, corporate NGOs, post-democratic capitalism and so on for a very stupid reason:
"Bad Vlad" seemingly opposes the US-centered globalists. So therefore he must be the lesser evil.
That it can be both is simply to difficult to fathom, nor that as you correctly states Russia would have and will grab as much as it can untli forcibly stopped of the old Soviet territories.
We aw the same fluster-cluck about Jugoslavia back then. The EU, NATO, UN and so on all milled about trying to decide who's "the bad guy" and spouting - exactly as people are doing here - asininities about what happened 400 years ago.
Well, hey people who argues from a historical perspective, guess what you've forgotten? Who the Rus were. Read up on that, and by your own logic both Ukraine and Russia belongs to... Sweden.
Betcha these "WEF bad = Putin good" howler monkeys didn't think about that.
Can one think Ukraine needs to stick to an agreement = Putin good - hardly. They are both corrupt
Sorry, yes, Zelensky was elected in 2019, not 1999. A slip up. For the rest of my sources - I can read in Russian, and I am from one of the former USSR countries and have long been familiar with the region, its history and global debates that it is involved in. I also have worked in the former Yugoslavian countries directly ravaged by war, so it infuriates me to read from all you arm-chair Russian politics experts, even though I still agree that one has to be very careful and triangulate information right now, and that the main-stream narrative is very limited. I feel like those who are skeptical around intervention in Ukraine that your sources are very limited too! I would hate it if the very worthy skepticism that one has acquired through following the adventures of the infectious agent SARS-CoV-2 would be directly transferred to being skeptical about a war, that at the moment has no end in sight.
I bow to your experience, but I too know Russians who tell me their views and I know the negative things about that country and Putin. Still I stand by the fact that both these countries are highly corrupt - maybe they all are including the US - but I just don't think it's something we should get in the middle of precisely for the reasons you give, but also because they are trying to force a new world order and either Ukraine keeps the 1994 boundaries and remains neutral and out of the corrupt NATO or joins the big boys trying to control us all.
We in the US want it simplified. The mainstream tells us THAT guy is the bad guy (a la Gaddafi, Saddam, Bin Laden, Castro...) and must be stopped at all costs. He's painted as a mad-man and all past history can be ignored. Stopping the mad-man keeps us all glued to the news which fills the day with 24/7 stories of the mad-man's actions while conveniently ignoring the other problems in our own country, like a failing economy, failed medical policies, endless political corruption... Especially with a mid-term election coming that doesn't look good for the party in power. Gotta rally around the flag and against the madman.
Wag the dog.
I am a complete skeptic on the information we have received to date on Ukraine. I encourage every Covid skeptic to become a Ukraine skeptic. I am watching and reading and trying to identify reliable sources.
I also encourage all able to afford it to find a reliable NGO and donate to refugee relief. This is another human tragedy playing out on our screens. I only wish there was some way to help the Russian protesters arrested since the invasion commenced.
He wasn't elected in 1999. He was elected in 2019.
Texas 1130🤠your right and people wake up 👀🧚
Ahhhh what part of “not sticking” exempts Russia in your erudite observation? Russia was a signatory in 1994 as well. And surely if Ukraine was a centre of organised criminal activity then in any objective comparison Moscow is the HQ. Putin has taken corruption, nepotism, organised murder to a new plane. The irony of using Chechyans as hitmen must have escaped him. Wasn’t it the Chechyans who he blamed (more accurately hired) to kill the Russian Opposition leader on that bridge beside the Kremlin? He is not only Joe Stalin reincarnated ( probably something he believes) but he is Joe Stalin and the Gambino crime family rolled into one. I suggest with respect you go and educate yourself. A good place to start would be a Roger Underwood’s article “Russia’s Yen to Rebuild a house of Cards”; QUADRANT ON LINE. surely the take away from all this is DONT GIVE UP YOUR NUKES
Never said Russia or Putin were anything but criminal - however when you break a pact with a KGB thug what do you expect him to do - he is destroying bio/Chem labs: https://www.defenseworld.net/news/31520
Ukraine is a major hub for child trafficking/drugs and equally criminal people. My point is they had an agreement we all broke. These are two corrupt countries and we need to stay out of it.
If you think Ukraine is innocent, it is you who need an education. Have you see since Day 2 of this Putin said he'd withdraw - stop the missiles pointing at Russia - what did JFK do in 1962? Same thing with Cuba. Get out or else.
Can you provide some links? Thanks.
The Biden regime does everything possible to limit US oil production while floating the idea Russian oil sanctions will really stick it to Putin. A new round of pain seems to be directed at the same people covid tyranny was pointed at.
https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1500127646751076353
More wisdom in this UFC fighter than all the US politicians combined
Bryce - way to go!
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Twistertim… you got it🤩🤑💩
just like canada. you can no longer have a sign or flag that criticizes Trudeau, otherwise you will be arrested and T just have a speech supporting ukraine and democracy
Watch: https://rumble.com/vwo7t2-3.6.22-sheila-holm-connects-ga-guidestones-ukraine-hellywood-kronkite-and-t.html
Yes, a bunch of very rich people fighting against each other for control. WHATEVER happens to the great unwashed is “collateral damage.” They don’t care if someone’s 10 month old son gets shot in the head, just like the thousands, if not millions, that die or have life changing side effects because of the EMERGENCY jabs! What happens to us is not their concern.
Pretty much the case - in a nutshell 🤷🏼♀️ Status Quo
An acceptable loss. Screw them!
Even a lot of that is theatre. For example, this is staged propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT1_DeXUyU4&lc=UgzCTKcx0LXgHRjqXmt4AaABAg.9ZFtcfpmlwc9ZHDw-fev5T To see what I mean, look at their "shelling victims". Note how they don't have a scratch on them, how their clothing is totally clean, how they look like they just laid down for a snooze, and how no one around them seems bothered by them or is reacting like they too might be shelled. Do an image search for "blast injuries" and "shrapnel injuries", and compare how they look to the BBC story's "shelling victims".
Also keep in mind, the Russians have every incentive to avoid killing civilians (it's a bad look, killing civilians makes the country harder to pacify and it's a waste of munitions that could be used against targets of military value) while the Ukrainians have every incentive to cause them (and blame the Russians because it makes the Russians look evil) *and* to keep people from leaving cities so they can serve as human shields.
I like how the Press person is lying on the ground with his microphone, as if bullets are flying overhead. Meanwhile, in the real world people were walking by not in any hurry. Merely on their way somewhere. They probably had been told to move out to a shelter, they were in no immediate danger, and they likely weren't even thrilled about doing that.
You're correct I believe. The way the Russian military is surrounding them while keeping a green zone open is a big tell. Unharmed passage before the Russians wrap things up. That may take weeks and not because the Ukrainian military is holding them off, but because Putin doesn't want what you said.
These types of misguided views and uneducated comments are what fuel the dictators of this world. Civilian casualties by the invading force are sought after as they demoralize and tie up valuable resourcing for the front line? Dude give your head a shake out of your ass and learn a few basics. This incursion will be ever lasting and in my experience you are the same persons that will cry foul because you have pay 4 or 5 dollars a gallon for fuel while innocent people are used to advance nothing more but fear amongst people. Whatever rock you crawled out from underneath, it's still free so please crawl back under it and we'll give you a heads up when you can come out and play.
Why would Putin "seek out" civilian casualties? Especially if he believes that Ukrainians and Russians are bound by blood.
This entire situation was avoidable, and the innocent poor will suffer. Not only Ukrainians, but Russians, and now Germans, British, American, etc.
This is a war on the lower classes by the "elites"
Putin doesn't have to believe what he says. You haven't figured that out yet?
Please educate us on what Putin believes.
For the past ten years and longer, Putin has been saying that his country will not allow any government to place nuclear weapons on the Russian border. Obviously, he means what he says. You haven't figured that out yet?
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Absolutely, it’s an ugly game of the corrupt Kleptocracy who doesn’t care about the victims. https://dossier.substack.com/p/russia-versus-ukraine-good-versus?r=ldaia&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct
You're giving us your emotional dump and it's totally unconvincing.
Nothing emotional RonaldB just the real world...look it up it's between A and Z in our language and obviously your 10 word reply is indicative of IQ. Keep 'er up we need more like you to use as a front line shield anyways.
Nah. You think your emotions are important to everyone else. They aren't. Only logic and facts. You have a rather shallow world view, so you translate it to your emotions and communicate your emotions. Not convincing.
Ethnic Russians are half the population. Most ethnic Ukrainians have many family members that are Russian. Putin is not going to do mass civilian casualties. There is nothing in it for him. Would he, if he had to? Sure. As would Zelenko. We aren't dealing with nice people over there. Any leader on any side anywhere in that region is corrupt, on the take, murderous, and likely sociopathic. As far as the incursion being everlasting...sure, why not? Russia will not allow the US to set up bases in Ukraine any more than the US was going to allow Russian bases in Cuba. Does the world need a Zelenko running Ukraine, is it really important? Does it need a Putin running it? Is that terrible. They're both bad. This is a non event in the goings on of the world, unless Stupid Joe turns it into a conflagaration to go up in the polls.
"Imagine a world where politicians start wars and soldiers refuse to fight"
Better yet, Anthony, imagine a world where soldiers declare war and send the politicians in to the fight.
I'd be good right now with the US sending that valiant hero Colonel Vindman to man the front lines.
BINGO! 😉
The U.S. is a dictatorship. Please pull your head out of the sand.
No argument here.
Just in case.
FLCCC I-Recover protocols for long haul covid and post vaccine inflammatory issues:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-recover-protocol
Will do. I also hate the vaccine pushers because they force their products onto those who don't want them and cover up all the bad reactions. These are real crimes.
3 Internal Medicine Doctor's close colleagues 6 Months after their 3rd Piece of "Candy" 🍬 all have had Heart attacks.
What did you find when you looked up your internet search for "blast injuries" and "shrapnel injuries"?
There is a whole "school of thought" along these lines called "useful idiots" for a reason. You can see some stark examples of its representatives here every time Alex touches upon this subject. What's wrong with their personal lives? A subject for further studies.
Those servants "we pay" in the swamp almost always sit and watch the innocents dying. How many did they watch in the great scamdemic die in nursing homes, and all the 80-85% (according to Risch and McCullough www.earlycovidcare.org) who did not have to die IF they had had access to early effective and cheap treatment options the mafia like MEDICAL-PHARMA industrial complex suppressed and had gag orders on medical personnel if they wanted to save lives. Where was the GOP (non rino's) stepping up to stop all of these ongoing crimes against humanity? All they did was rant and huff and puff and not ONE perp whom we all know are responsible has been held to account. I mean WTF! So now its all these same people "we pay" sitting and watching all these innocents in the Ukraine to die day after day once again. We know what would end this and we have since before it began, but yet it's simply allowed by those "we pay" to serve us. What a country!
You can say the exact same thing about the fake pandemic and resulting killer mRNA injections.
If you mean the West's response...couldn't agree more. The media is also using this horror taking place as a docudrama...pathetic and sickening!
And that is where the theater ends.
Stalin is reported to have said, the death of one person is a tragedy, the deaths of a thousand is a statistic.
Like grains of sand on the seashore, seems like they are never ending.....there’s plenty more where those came from. A few thousand, million won’t make Any difference. This is the mindset of these rich elitist. We serve them literally and figuratively from the time they wake up in the morning until they go to bed......and they don’t really SEE any of us! Even the ones they use to punish us are actually US.
If enough of US ever got organized enough, this whole picture would change. Common Sense. 🤷♀️
We laughed at Sarah Palin when she warned the world about Russia,Russia, Russia. Tina Fey as Sarah on SNL, was such a pop culture moment.
Forest for the trees...forest for the trees. Remember Putin's Russia is simply a large gas station. The entirety of Russia GDP is similar to simply California. Beware the illusions-smoke screens and keep your eye on what is in reality at stake in the bigger picture. Agenda 2030...
Why can’t Goldman Sachs just send Putin some prostitutes like they did in Libya?
I'm sure they would serve useful in his gas station
Drug cartels are lightweights compared to the oil cartels.
That’s exactly how I have been describing this situation, almost word for word
Agreed
This was the obvious and predictable result of 'going green' and relying on Russian oil to stay warm in the middle of winter.
Germany went GREEN, and had their asses handed to them. "Green" Energy is as red on the inside as a watermelon. If it worked so well, why was Nord Stream 2 project so important?
They really screwed themselves by taking their functioning and well-kempt nuke plants offline because... Because? They caved on the final three that were supposed to go dead this year.
We're next.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/03/06/biden-strongarms-democrats-to-vote-against-russia-oil-ban-n1564177
We need to restart domestic oil production now. We do it clean and don't need Russia or OPEC. We're finding Russia's war.
You probably meant that we are "funding" Russia's war. Which we are. For no sane reason.
Sadly, it is probable that if our rulers and their tame media keep escalating the war, Russia's war will find us. Does anyone believe that Mr. Putin will hesitate to push the red button?
Vlad has a permit to do what he wants ;) https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff48fcc14-e06b-4552-9ee5-74d88c3e5ee5_500x549.jpeg
- RUSSIAsteria: Best Putin Invades the Ukraine Memes
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/best-putin-invades-ukraine-memes-feb-2022
- RUSSIAsteria: Best Putin Invades the Ukraine as COVID Goes Missing Memes
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/russiasteria-covid-goes-missing-memes
-RUSSIAsteria: Best Hypocrisy Memes on Putin invading the Ukraine
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/best-hypocrisy-memes-putin-invading-ukraine
Oligarchs & politicians: 1
Us serfs: 0
Wake up people, this is another sham to destroy your wealth and disrupt your life.
Russian oil sanctions while doing everything they can to limit US oil production seems designed to purposely wreck the economy, similar to covid lockdowns. Western appetite for covid lockdowns ran out, so this is their new wrecking ball.
Klaus and Fauci must love it as Putin becomes the media scapegoat for all the damage.
Bingo. Putin is probably happy to make some back office deals to wreck the USD as the world reserve currency.
This is all self-inflicted damage.
we can't drill oil in the USA because it's bad for the environment, but we can buy russian oil because who cares if it messes up their planet
wait a minute...
I enjoy simple, but yet analytical comments like this. Too bad many don't get it.
No one is willing to stop buying gas from Russia because this is another media driven hysteria. Or they'd stop buying gas from Russia. Seems pretty clear to me
Instead they are pretending that the problems of the last year are because of the last two weeks. In this article is a video of Psaki saying just that, along with a bonus video of Fauci STILL claiming the vax stops spread!
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/the-leaders-are-still-lying?s=w
I’m going to have to take your word on it. Psaki is so condescending I want to throw up and if I have to look at Fauci on purpose I might have to fling myself out a window. I believe what you say, so, please keep on doing what you’re doing and I’ll nail the window shut!
Thanks, I have the same response to seeing Psaki. She is the poster child for liberal superiority.
Thanks for making me laugh.
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I've yet to see the "war" on several working web cams in the Ukraine Region. Trust nothing from the MSM.
Oh 100% the foggiest fog of war I've ever witnessed
Next question, who made it possible for Russian oil to be on the market making beaucoup $$$? Same guy that helped get the Nord Stream 2 project underway (BIDEN), was the same guy taking away leases on US soil, and CANCELED OUR PIPELINE DAY 1.
L.E.Mentry….. swamp getting deeper thicker and smellier! Follow the money.💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Many RINO's are not my Bro, either.
Both party’s are in in this.
One wants the total destruction of the United States and is willing to sell it whole sale. The other sees that they are spineless cucks and they are selling it bits at a time so they can escape the consequences of their inaction.
Agree LE Mentry
While the West pays for Putins War, he uncovers US funded bio labs in Ukraine. Ah the symmetry.
Right? And why does noone talk about the assanination of the Ukrainian negotiatar by their own forces
I want more news on this.
Plenty on legitgov.org.
Correct. Also see Kyle Becker Substack. See Political Moonshine website. It’s all there. Putin called it a Special Operation from the start. Now we know what he meant.
I'm not so sure it would be accurate to characterize the war in Ukraine as "Putin's war". War has been going on in Ukraine since 2014. The event that precipitated it was the Euromaidan coup, which was orchestrated in part by the US State Department and NGOs with backing from the likes of the CIA and George Soros, a guy who has openly boasted many times about how good his organizations have become over the years at fostering color revolutions. It doesn't look to me like Putin has been playing the role of warmonger in the Ukrainian civil war either. By all accounts, it was Putin's government that brokered the negotiations that resulted in two cease fire accords (Minsk I and Minsk II). These cease-fire agreements failed to keep the peace, but from what I gather, there is credible evidence that the blame for that failure belongs to the Ukrainian side (especially with the neo-fascist, Nazi-inspired, Ukrainian ultra-nationalist Azov Battalion, which has been formally integrated into Ukraine's military and has been stationed in the Donbas, astride the breakaway republics of Luhansk and Donetsk for years).
All true. But actually, as I wrote very early today, look back to the Russian Revolution. When the Khazarian Mafia, most who came from Ukraine, crushed the Russian people and installed Lenin in power. Russia has a history of “long knives.” And long memories. There you will find the real “headwaters” of the conflict. Which has been ongoing ever since.
Such a tired, tired narrative. Putin bad! Ukraine innocent! Lol. Ukraine. Totally corrupt, bribe-taking, human-trafficking, Russian-civilian-killing, exemplary humanitarian country. I suppose if Russia was hoping to get missiles back to Cuba, the US would be just fine with it? Oh, and let's not forget that Putin was basically put in power by the US 20 years ago. Geopolitical theater. All of it. Notice how COVID has just disappeared from the "news". It's all Ukraine now. Rather convenient for the psychopaths that put us through hell for 2 years over a lab-created virus that is ultimately about as dangerous as the flu. Good thing billions of people got injected with synthetic genetic coding that over the last 2 decades proved dangerous to the point Moderna was going out of business....but then it magically worked for Covid! Good thing we have the FDA to tell is it's "safe" after 60 days of shotty safety data. Good thing!
Excellent comment, Terry. How the average person, let alone a supposedly well-educated person like Alex, can take any of this nonsense at face value is perplexing.
One would think that Alex, fresh off all the propaganda and lies about Covid and the "vaccines", would have a slightly more cynical eye toward all the Ukraine propaganda being pushed by the exact same sources.
Preparing for Reintegration into MSM?
Maybe. But maybe it is just incredibly difficult to realize that your ENTIRE world view is wrong. It is far easier to think that Covid was a one off.
Thinking the same.
It seems like we need some sort of mass civil (peaceful) rebellion (is that an oxymoron??) to get these US and Canadian governments to toe our line. We have been far too accommodating of their lies this last 2 years, so now they lie even more. How to stop it?
If it weren't for Obama tricking Medvedev into supporting the destruction of Libya, Putin would likely not have returned to the Presidency at all. After that, Medvedev was widely viewed as a useful idiot of the Americans and could no longer hold power.
So Alex, it's pretty obvious that this was all theatre. You don't telegraph your cards to an "enemy".
The US blocking their own keystone pipeline, while simultaneously approving the Russian pipeline just a year ago....Makes. Zero. Sense. From a standpoint of isolating a "rogue" nation like Russia. In fact it is the OPPOSITE action that should have been conducted....But this was intentional.
Just like the plandemic.
Logical conclusions.
I hoped I'd never see the day when we'd have a president dumber and more incompetent than Jimmy Carter.
Brandon has dementia and his advisors are off-the-charts NUTS.
WTF negotiating with Iran and Venezuela, when the US has giant puddles of oil to tap?
And what's this I hear about Putin getting all cozy with Cuba?
The White House must have a SCREW UP DARTBOARD: Every day they toss a dart to select the Dumb Ass Idea of the Day.
I've never felt more hopeless about the state of our country. In one year, everything has turned to shit!
I know, right?
Biden et all have the Midas Touch--in Reverse. Everything they touch turns to shit.
I feel like we're treading water toward November.
Every time I think things can't get worse, somehow Brandon proves me wrong. I hope we can stay afloat til November.
How many times did Trump warn this would happen if they placed dementia Joe in office?
Before Trump was elected--and then after he was elected--I kept hearing people say, "OMG. Trump? He's nuts!"
My reply was, "It doesn't matter if you think he's nuts. It only matters that the rest of the world thinks he's nuts."
Game.
Set.
Match.
That’s what I always said. And also, forget what he says, and watch what he does instead……..none of this stuff would be happening.
It's an intentional destruction of the west.
Agenda 2030.Have to destroy all existing semblance of a system in order to build back better. This was all telegraphed for how long now and the sheep just kept grazing...
Remember he makes NO decisions.100% puppet
I disagree. He decides between chocolate and vanilla ice cream. And tapioca pudding or oatmeal.
Probably Jill's call lol
I hear Jill’s a heckuva doctor.
So the media was uniformly "pro vaccine" in 2021 - from FOX to MSNBC. Now, the media is uniformly "pro war with Russia" here in early 2022. Do they have any credibility at all? Not with me. I'm just assuming the media is running yet another con. Liars gonna lie, as they say.
Next up: "The Russians are throwing Babies out of Incubators!" Just like what happened to kick off The Iraq War 1 under the guy now known as Saint Bush the First.
It’s almost like if you give the media a billion or two in taxpayer money, they’ll dance to your tune.
Heh yeah - "almost".
https://www.theblaze.com/news/review-the-federal-government-paid-media-companies-to-advertise-for-the-vaccines
FOX = MSNBC = CNN = Newsmax.
Your Tax Dollars At Work.
Green New Deal: Wind & Putin Power
Just like the media relied entirely on public health experts they liked for covid news, they're now getting all their war news from ukranian authorities. I trust it about as much ie not at all. and that includes the lying ukranian president. He's Andrew Cuomo all over again
Now we're talking of a govt. in exile, even if sans Shillensky, to prolong yet another synthetic crisis. Gangland Games against all us Smerfs... lock n' load the Nerf guns.
Give Trump credit when he called out the idiocy of the German leadership wanting the U.S. to protect them from Russia while at the same time the German leadership was making Germany dependent on Russian energy.
His comment was also a swipe at NATO, as in, "Why do we still have a military alliance created to defend against the USSR, a nation that no longer exists? For some reason, NATO has been repurposed as an anti-Russia military alliance, but Russia isn't our enemy, it doesn't have an aggressive posture toward the West and in fact we trade quite a lot with them." He was making good points back in 2016.
Now you know why they hated Trump so much that they plotted to destroy his Presidency and impeached him - twice. Trump just used common sense. Trump would have had no problem guaranteeing that Ukraine wasn't going to be part of NATO. So Putin would never have invaded.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/trump-scolded-germany-for-buying-gas-from-russia-heres-what-we-know
Shouldn't that tell you something about the vast disparity between the carefully crafted optics you're allowed to see and the reality in this conflict? If you'd get the hook out of your mouth, AB, there are deeper waters in which you might swim.
I have the same feeling in my GUT as I did when the government shut us down with 15 days to flatten the curve.
Something just isn’t right.
Bye, bye covid, hello war. 😳
We aren't really sanctioning them either. Oil transactions don't go through SWIFT.
Really? How do they settle?
This I have not confirmed, so it is alleged. But it makes sense:
"The US government has allowed American companies to continue buying Russian oil via third-country banks, which have not joined in on sanctions against Russia. In effect, American companies will now pay unaffiliated banks for Russian oil, and that money will then be transferred to Russia.
Bankers in Hong Kong have already offered lucrative conditions as intermediaries.
In essence, Americans will now pay more for Russian oil, China-controlled banks will get a fat cut, and Russia will get just as much money as it did previously."
-Murado
Exactly. Just one extra step.
I believe they are direct bank to bank transactions issued in US dollars (often referred to as Petrodollars). SWIFT is a messaging system used to initiate certain interbank transactions (e.g., Credit Card Transaction) but oil transactions do not go through this system. SWIFT sanctions will do more to hurt the average Russian citizen.
I can vouch for the sanctions hurting Ukrainian citizens, too. A friend who runs a home for aged out orphans (16 year olds) is unable to access his charitable funds because they come from a Russian church.
Yes from what I've gathered, it takes a whole extra step to simply fund the transaction in a different manner.
Is the US oil / natural gas the only ones that affects the so called climate change. I guess Russia, Iran, and Venezuela oil doesn't affect the global climate so we can just buy from them. Go figure.
We have oil and gas here. We do not need it from any other country! Someone please tell the dumbo lefties, including the Biden Admin, that our "global economy" they love to talk about all share the same globe, i.e. Climate. Our energy is cleaner. Why are we begging tyrants for their oil? Biden and his Admin. are a National Disgrace.
Meanwhile the sanctions that do work are harming regular Russian citizens. Honestly, when I didn't think American foreign policy could be anymore stupid, we sink to an even lower rung of stupidity.
Peace talks work, people, and so does honoring one's word.
Wow.
Netflix just suspended service to Russia.
That'll teach 'em.
(Stop buying the damned oil!!!)
Oh yeah that will scare the pants off them. The stupidity has reached spiritual levels.
That was possibly one of Putin's desires, for a few good reasons. I know we canceled our subscription.
The US provoked the current situation by expanding NATO to Russia's borders and by aiding Ukraine in their 8 year attack on ethnic Russians in the Donbas
If NATO engages in a direct attack on Russian forces, something Mr. Berenson appears to support, it will mean nuclear war
My apologies, but Russia is a sh*thole and Ukraine is a sh*thole.
I don't see why we need to destroy the planet in a nuclear holocaust over this
So why exactly is this war happening? I don't trust anything the media says anymore.
Read up on the Cuban Missile Crisis, then reverse the teams.
as near as i can tell the timing aspect comes down to:
- putin declares red line in sand with baltic states joining NATO
- western nations push baltic states to join NATO & can essentially control the timing of putin's response
- that is to say, when they want to start a war, they push the ukraine into NATO
so the timing is essentially planned to coincide with "death" of covid
They would have done this around 2016 without Trump in office.
Just like McCain and Graham wanted.
We're still paying the price for John McCain.
Yup. I ran into him in a Pakistan during second Iraq war. What a mean spirited, pompous ass with a napoleon complex.
Zaktly.
Let’s say for a second (as a given) that one believes in climate change and that oil/gas = bad. Biden is begging foreign countries (enemies) to pump more oil to meet US demand. Since climate is global, oil is bad, how does a non-US producer impact the GLOBAL climate any LESS than if the US were doing it themselves. What am I missing here?
You’re missing the inability to think sensibly...
Also, this could've been easily avoided if we weren't so arrogant (and the military contractors weren't so GREEDY). Just stop cornering Russians, but then who's going to be the boogieman?(we're not ready to change it to China yet - though by the time we are, it'll be TOO LATE)
You know, if you don't look at the other side, and listen to it, and then decide what is the truth..
You lose all your credibility about " unreported truths"
Why not investigate why noone in western media cares that the Ukrainians just assassinated their own negotiator on courthouse steps for treason.
It's true.. but noone covers it.
Because why..
It disproves their narratives about the Ukrainian government and lends credentials to Russia's stance.
And oh yeah.. another day silently goes by while covid disappears into historical fiction because we are so focused on evil
The US incited the war between Russia and Ukraine and apparently did so deliberately. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&t=120s
See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHH10jIRJmQ&t=2s
And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H0rCqaGtJw&t=1s
Not only that, but don't forget that Clinton got Ukraine to decommission their nuclear weapons in 1993 - 1994; leaving the country with no leverage.
Just exactly when has the government or the msm told the truth about anything? I don't believe a word they say and I'm positive they always have an agenda that is not going to help the American people.
From another Nancy in NC - sadly true.
My friends call me Nan too. I'm near the coast. You?
Far from you - near the foothills north of Charlotte 😕
Too bad. I could use a friend that is awake... rather than woke or completely asleep.
I agree - thankfully I have a sister as well as a physical therapist friend who were against the shots from the beginning - we get to vent about all of this. I wish I had not fallen for the fear propaganda……
2 Moderna shots, absolutely no booster! Buyers remorse with no recourse to correct the possible future damage…….😡
I was somewhat concerned for about two weeks, but never bought anything - no masks or jabs. I've been very suspicious of the government and the media for some time. Not bragging, just lucky. My family is like minded, thankfully. And I have a few friends that are too. But I admit that its a good thing others can't read my mind and see how much contempt I have.
You are one of the few that will admit their mistake. Most are virtue signaling and holding on to their security blanket for dear life. I range from pity to disdain, but I don't engage much. It's impossible to have discussions anymore.
As a US taxpayer I identify very much with the Russian Federation. The entire US political class has treated both of us like garbage for decades. Ukraine is a US colony which is being used as a base for US regime change in Russia. US constantly sends billions of tax dollars to Ukraine and no one knows where they go. US violently overthrew Ukraine's elected government in 2014 and installed a puppet who gave Ukraine oligarchs whatever they wanted. This is about US seeking regime change in Moscow followed by total submission to the US as they were under Yeltsin.
I am with you Susan. Though I would caution that Putin is not the good guy in all of this. Russia and Ukraine and America (governments) can all be to blame here. I am on the side of George Washington. Leave European wars to the Europeans. We have enough problems to occupy us right here in the United States. We should disband the CIA so they stop messing with foreign elections. I suspect that they even used their knowledge of how to subvert elections in the 2020 US election too. Even more argument to disband them.
The Duran: https://rumble.com/vwkyb1-clinton-yeltsin-docs-shine-a-light-on-why-deep-state-hates-putin-the-duran..html
This is dumb. I fail to see how backing the KGB thug dictator Putin is in any freedom loving citizen of the world's interest. There is no regime change in Ukraine impacting Russia other than it has elections and democratic institutions.
The US did not overthrow Ukraine's puppet president in 2014. The installed-puppet benefitted from election fraud. Some people are so stuck in ignorance to repeat this tired tripe is pathetic. The people in Ukraine turned out in the hundreds of thousands not unlike the overthrow of the Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt. That's the parallel not your propaganda.
The pro-Russia thug shot protestors in the capitol and then in the dead of night left his compound and private zoo behind fleeing to.... wait for it... Russia. He also stole billions out of the country in the process. Lay off the Oliver Stone conspiracies.
So, there's a little truth for you. Try to keep up.
In 2014 US certainly overthrew Ukraine's elected governor. "Yats" was US choice for new PM per Victoria Nuland. As Nuland said, US spent $5 billion US tax dollars on Ukraine since 1991--it's not a secret. Per NY Times, Yats gave Ukr. oligarchs whatever they wanted. After thousands stood in Maidan for months in the cold, they were dismayed to find things worse than ever--also public record. As a US taxpayer, I'm forced to finance the US military dictatorship and its global "regime change' genocide machine . This can't be changed by elections, too much money in it. Someone has to stop the US Deep State ASAP. Americans should be able to vote to remain neutral vs wars.
Incorrect. Hundreds of thousands of people rose up against the installed election fraud Prez. It was Putin's thug choice. it wasn't thousands in the cold protesting; it was hundreds of thousands and they were unhappy they would not see government move toward an EU application. They were less happy when they started being shot in the center of Kyiv. Yanukovych fled in the dead of night when even shooting protestors didn't silence them. You're just not there with these simple facts.
Yes, absolutely is fact that Yanu. fled, and that there were snipers shooting at both police and protesters, and the crowds were massive, absolutely. What happened after that is the issue. The citizens got new government absolutely, but new PM Yatsenyuk was selected by US Nuland. Fine, then voters elected Pres. Poroshenko. But, NY Times reported Yats wasn't able to let go of his oligarch cronies, so protesters were shafted. Poroshenko was a known commodity, but also shafted protesters. You may have read recently that Zelensky wanted to arrest Poroshenko. After 2014 Ukraine decided to accept loans from IMF, but IMF terms were very painful. As of 2015, 80-85% of gdp was still controlled by Ukraine oligarchs. The banking and judiciary were still hopelessly corrupt. Per Atlantic, members of Ukr. parliament each keep around $700,000 at home. I have no disagreement with you about what led up to 2014.
You're good at Big Pharma, bad at foreign policy.
Is Alex actually suggesting Europe stop all gas imports from Russia and freeze to death, just to show Putin they are against his invasion of Ukraine .... which is actually a consequence of NATO expansion. Where is the rationale?
This is what comes from letting Marketing run everything. You can’t “cancel” Russia - it’s a country not a TV show.
The people actually running our country are far from stupid. They’re sociopaths who made a calculated decision to ‘end our reliance’ on fossil fuels. It ties in very nicely with their false canards of how we betrayed nature and now nature will seek its revenge. They grew restless and agitated when the commoners didn’t take them seriously. That is the reason we got a lab created virus and were told to believe that it was the direct result of our unnatural interactions with the environment.
My guess is the Germans decided that Ukraine independence wasn't worth freezing to death over.
I don't disagree with that decision.
I had to pay $4.50 per gallon of gas today all because of a country that does not have anything to do with my security or vital interests. The US should get its big nose the hell out of Ukraine and stop antagonizing Russia. I do not want to pay with either my money or the lives of the young people in my country for the ego trip US political leaders have by being belligerent towards Russia.
Pls don't forget much of that price inflation happened before the war resulting from Brandon's policies.
Agreed, but the last 50 cents got tacked on this past week because of the stupidity of US governments going back to Clinton in abrogating the 1991 agreement that NATO would not expand into the countries neighboring Russia. Along with installing a Ukranian government hostile to Russia after sponsoring a coup there in 2014. Now after 30 years of antagonizing the country, and over $6 billion in war armaments sent there during the last 7 years, is it any wonder that Russia finally put its foot down when NATO was considering putting offensive ballistic missiles in Ukraine ?And instead of recognizing this war is a direct result of their policies, does the US and NATO declare no offensive missiles in countries neighboring Russia and end the war immediately thereafter ? No, instead they throw all kinds of sanctions on Russia to antagonize them even more, and crude oil shoots to $130 a barell on its way to $200 !!
Its totally insane and I am sick of the US government making ever possible move to destroy the welfare of the country's people, from porous borders that surely are allowing terrorists free entry to the States, to locking down businesses without making a dent in new Covid cases, to advocating dangerous poisons they call vaccines, to now making me pay $4.50 a gallon and probably more soon.
The American people don't need a war with Russia over Ukraine, a country that has no security or vital national interest to the US. What the American people need is a war on the morons in Washington, to politically cleanse these corrupt bastards who can't do enough to destroy this country.
100%!!!
And to add insult to injury, the fool in the White House is about to close his nuclear deal with our sworn enemy in a deal that’s being negotiated by THE RUSSIANS! Can anyone wrap their head around that abomination? I can’t!
Is it me, or does it seem like everything going on in this country for the last few years is completely without logic ? Its as if the US government is being held hostage by some alien force from outer space that is threatening to wipe out the country if the government doesn't choose the most ridiculous options available. I'm not a young guy, so I've seen a lot of things happen in this country during my life. But never have I seen a government and governments elsewhere in the world act with such total disregard for reason and historical precedent.
It’s not just you. It’s like we’re in some bizarro world and I think it’s just going to get worse. I was watching an interview and the woman they were interviewing said the Russia invasion has just changed the world order. I think she’s right, but it won’t be in a good way. Prepare for impact.
Sadly I think you are spot on. Prepare for impact is good advice. The willingness of some governments of the world to get involved in affairs that jeopardize humanity, from bio-weapons research to meddling in the politics of other countries in order to gain geo-political influence, is astoundingly dangerous.
This was a planned war in that (1) as we cut our current and future energy production, Russia was given an opportunity to invade. (2) Russia has always made it clear that it considers Ukraine, if not part of Russia, part of the Russian sphere of influence. By bringing the Baltic states into NATO, for what reason it is unknown, and flirting with Ukraine, we provoked Russia to act. That is not apologizing for Putin and Russian aggression, it is simply stating an obvious fact. Unless we had gamed out how we were going to stop this, in advance, we were foolish, or naive, about our dealings with Ukraine. Or (3) it was known what was going to happen and the military, political, economic complex is going to make a lot of money on this war. Unless and until we truly block Russia off from the world markets and stop the flow of energy, I think (3) is most likely.
We are saddled with the worst, most incompetent, ignorant set of world leaders in memory. And as Texas 1130 said, below, they're not only incompetent, they're corrupt. Unfortunately, our lamestream media is merely fanning the flames. Shades of Hearst and Pulitzer, and the Spanish American War. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
incompetent, corrupt, and don't forget demented (old Joe). That's bad trifecta!
Yeah... forgot that third part of the trifecta!
We don't need you to join the warmongers, Alex. Aren't there enough of them? After seeing the COVID work in action, hard to believe you're being duped by what's happening in Europe.
It seems the "leadership" of the U.S. and the West, the globalists, the deep staters, are fine with lots of people being killed and displaced. Hey, we just created a few hundred thousand more refugees than what we'd planned in Afghanistan and "rebranded" it as the largest airlift. Everything will be FINE. We'll just have Catholic Charities and the vast U.S. gov't-funded (read: taxpayer-funded) refugee apparatus bring in more to America. No problemo. Americans are willing to pay a little more for a "good cause."
None of what's happening had to happen. This working to ramp up the sanctions now (how is that not a declaration of war?) rather than seriously trying to ratchet this down immediately (or, again, PREVENTED THIS) indicates war was the goal. We're hearing more and more about a no-fly zone -- in fact, the Ukrainian president is DEMANDING it of the West. More ramping up war.
Seems like all the techniques used during COVID are in full play.
Horrible that people are paying the price with their lives for the monsters playing a chessboard.
Statement on Russian-Ukrainian Crisis Vigano Mar 7 2022
Letter from Archbishop Viganon regarding situation in Ukraine
https://www.scribd.com/document/563147077/Statement-on-Russian-Ukrainian-Crisis-Vigano-Mar-7-2022#from_embed
Start asking the Ukraine cheering section….
Why is the Biden Administration buying Russian oil & sending weapons/money to Ukraine…thus, financing both sides of this nonsense?
Because the defense contractors get richer and richer. That one is easy.
Of course.
Isn’t that what NATO’s existence (since the fall of the Soviet Union) & expansion has been all about?
And with all the American companies refusing to do business in Russia, boy does China have it made. Pangea-East gets Europe and Asia. Pangea-West, woke North America and South America. We lose. (But that was the plan all along.)
your Russia-Ukraine takes are as bad as your covid takes are good..
Alex doesn't know much about Ukraine, that is for sure.
When Brandon warned of a "Dark Winter" I think he was being literal; no energy for lighting, heating, etc.
Does everything the Left touches turn to shit or is it just my imagination?
Not your imagination - merely a simple observation of reality.
Here's a very enlightened explanation of who actually started this war. https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=245343
Spoiler: It was us (as in the US).
Russia and China are creating the Global south ...They are headed toward a total union....This is a transfer of wealth to them....meanwhile many people will starve because countries are not allowing more food to be grown..like
Germany ........ right now ...the farmers are furious....not being allowed to grow more food or import means the Cabal wants to take control of the land and be in control of the food supply...all a part of the Great Reset The Cabal is following a script...To bring in the Reset of control.....All this was planned to the smallest degree....
This Global South will be the death knell for the US economy. For forty years the US has been able to spend whatever it wanted and run up a $30 trillion government debt because the cheap labor countries would invest their dollar-based trade surpluses in dollar-based investments, most notably US government debt securities. If they no longer have trade surpluses in dollars because they focus on trading within their new alliance, or if they decide to invest their dollar-based trade surpluses within their new alliance, the US will have few good options to finance its existing debt as well as its ongoing deficits.
The US then would have to print money to finance its debts and deficits, leading to skyrocketing inflation that will destroy the US economy. Or they'll have to cut spending drastically, which also would reduce a major source of consumption from the GDP equation leading to significant economic downturn. If their past record of budgeting is any indication of what to expect in the future, it will be imposible for the clowns in Washington to cut spending by the amount they would have to cut to balance their budget.
Its kind of ironic in a way. The US defeated the Soviets in the Cold War by forcing the Soviets to spend far more than they could afford on their military, resulting in the bankruptcy of the USSR. Now the Russians have returned the favor, luring the US into a trap whereby the non-aligned nations would see the danger of financially supporting a nation who will try to destroy the economy of any nation that does not bow down to US foreign policy, as hypoctritical as that policy may be.
The chickens are coming home to roost for the US. The laws of economic nature will soon make the country pay for their government's foolish arrogance of many years.
Sadly for the 'leaders', they don't understand that the 'little people' are far more clever than the elites and will simply work around stupid 'plans' for us.
Don't forget what the last two years was about
anyone with any sense knows banning US oil back in jan21 lead to this. almost like banning IVm & hydro to treat covid in mar20
And just like that, POOF, the Covid posts cease. The purpose of this theatre has been served.
the duran on rumble has had the best commentary on this issue i've seen, and it offers an alternative perspective to that being disseminated in the institutional press. if they're correct, and russia is not acting out of a desire for conquest, the conflict will be inflamed in direct proportion to the "toughness" of western response to it.
I am now limited to watching Tucker on DVR and listening to the Duran podcast every day in order to figure out what is happening in Ukraine.
I will never trust the U.S. government to tell me the truth about critical issues as long as I live.
“From JFK to 9/11: Everything Is A Rich Man’s Trick”. Watch the documentary.
Now we can add Covid to the story.
Exactly!
President Putin has taught all the world's governments that he will not allow any of them to place nuclear weapons on Russia's border just like U.S. presidents will not allow any foreign government to place nuclear weapons and military installations on U.S. borders. Let's hope that the brainwashed Americans and Europeans are able to understand that two plus two equals four.
I'm not sure that Brandon, or any of his ilk in government, can do simple math. I know they have no sense. 🙄
They have plans with Klaus Schwab and the next pandemic. Wait for it..