I only watched parts of it, but I found Kagan's comments on policy, that we know vaccination is best followed by masking, to be incredibly ironic, considering the current state of science (notwithstanding the current state of "the science"). I continue to believe that science is a continuing query of exploration, with few known, especially about newly discovered viruses.
And the 3 lefty justices (Kagan, Breyer, Sotomayor) all did so with not a single thought about trying to at least seem unbiased in a case! So quick were they to signal that they were with their tribe/crowd with the "correct" narrative. I mean, think whatever crazy thing you want, but DONT say it! Just seems so absolutely reckless in a supreme court justice.
The fact that they got ALL the facts wrong also calls into question their intelligence.
So....no judicial temperament, combined with virtue signaling, combined with obvious bias, along with a complete inability to grasp the basic facts....
Since individual choice implies body autonomy-which may be a human right, but not a constitutional protection, I don't think the Supreme court will ever deal with the gross violation of the medical ethical principle of informed consent since it is not specified by law, but by a code of ethics.
Exactly. So why did she even go there at all just to show us how stupid she is? These “smart” people are proving to be duds and lack any sort of curiosity. After Cruz, the brilliant one, comments about 1/6, I conclude the brightest and best have had their brains removed.
You nailed it. The next step is going after these corporations for violating the Constitution and the Nuremberg Code by coercing people to take an experimental treatment or lose their livelihoods. The employers should be held liable for any and all adverse events and deaths.
To me she epitomizes the problem of the new left. She's indignant, obstinate, and not dealing with matters of fact. A lousy political activist posing as a judge. Just as the left wants it. Let alone the actual constitutional question at issue. In a way, you have to marvel at their singlemindedness.
I cannot get my head around how a member of the supreme court can be so far out of touch. How is that remotely possible...crazzzzy! My 12 year old has a better grasp on what the science says right now on the whu-flu.
Seems more and more likely, but the mere thought of a supreme court justice actually spewing lies "intentionally" makes her what exactly in terms of her integrity and character? Does she realize the precedent she set by doing so. Just a disgrace
Just to be clear, actual science is the exact OPPOSITE of putting blind faith in supposed "experts." And anyone who can't or won't show you the data he relied on or how he reached his conclusions is not a scientist; he is a propagandist. -Larken Rose
Many of you may think this but i dont believe it for one minute. They are very smart people they are not going to stick a substance in their body because Anthony Fauci, says so that is like Anthony Fauci, telling everyone to jump off of a bridge. I myself look at these vaccine trials as like a drug that Hunter Biden, would pick up off of a street corner. People like Joe Biden, have no respect for himself and dont care about the outcome he is only living for the moment without no future in mind. Normal people dont put things in their body where there is no credible proof of effectiveness. No President like this Bag of Bones in the White House has ever spoke to the American people like he has, and the media does not hold his feet to the fire on anything. Berenson was right all along, and he keeps proving them wrong and they are all to blind to see it.
Exactly Justice Samuel! The reason OSHA can mandate things such as safety glasses and safety training is that at the end of the day, they are reversible actions. I can take off my safety glasses when I go home. If I really wanted to, I could just forget about my training. The difference with a vaccine is that it IS a medical procedure and can not be undone onto the human body.
Sotomayor, there are no 100.000 Covid babies on Ventilators. There are 3,000 drug dependents parent's babies on Ventilators. Why are you spreading lies and continued fear?
This was a tragic moment. First, it's totally wrong, and second she's acting like a member of the squad, not a Supreme Court justice trying to resolve a constitutional question.
This Plandemic includes the infiltration of the courts in preparation of the NWO. There Are No Coincidences ! Sotomayor is a plant installed by Obama, just for these occasions where facts don't matter and agenda is everything !
Here's the REAL data, from today's US News and World Report (for what that's worth):
"Among 102 kids ages 12 to 18 who were hospitalized with the condition, none who had received two Pfizer shots at least 28 days earlier needed ventilators or other advanced life support. By contrast, 40% of unvaccinated children required such treatment."
So, 40% of 102 equals....about 40.
And notice no one is talking about the health of those kids PRIOR to hospitalization. Obese? Existing heart problems? Diabetes? It doesn't matter in this one-size-fits-all plandemic world!
The timing of such articles is beyond suspicious… again. Children are the target.. a long term customer. Dr Malone is clear of all the harm inflicted to all organs during developmental ages not to mention stark infertility. See Joe Rogan Podcast.
Ever notice how the "why won't someone think of the children???" media narrative *always* bubbles to the surface around the time schools are set to resume? The kids are doing fine, but then when the Dem-city schools are set to resume, covid suddenly becomes danger #1 to children all over again.
Again - I also wonder whether these kids were receiving any early treatment. And, how is it possible that this far into covid hospitals are still putting people on ventilators!! It is extraordinarily contraindicated. Plus - to your point - even the CDC is admitting that 60% of children who had severe complications from covid were obese.
So back in June when I had my accident and landed in the hospital, those waiting for care in the huge waiting area were the poor. I visited ER several times that month for injuries due to accident. I heard many of the cases while waiting. Most of these folks had many issues. The poor have difficulty just getting to hospital because of transportation. So I imagine something would need to be bad to bring child to hospital. Early treatment? I doubt it. Just want to add something funny here. I had to have scans due to my injuries. I had a concussion among many other fun stuff. Technician said to me as they were taking pictures of head, body, “geez, you are in good shape”. I am going to be 70. Imagine what they must routinely see to say that. 😂
That’s my plan! I turn 56 next month and given the sorry state of our medical infrastructure and the programming of our doctors, I will continue taking the very next possible care of my body so I can avoid hospitals and doctors at all costs!
Interesting wording. None who had received 2 phizerbshoys 28 days prior!? So how many that had received 2 shots witching 4 weeks were? It implies at least some non zero number or why segregate the data that way
She is going to live to regret being that stupid. Her words are going to get used a lot and reveal her ignorance. The stuff she said was disproven long ago. All that is left now is that vaccines may help sick person have less symptoms of virus. Even then how can that be proven?
they haven't bought into it, they've been told to sell it because it's the only thing the dems can hang their hat on. they've long been bought and paid for by big pharma and they're just following the set forth rules.
One highlight: once Hitler was in power they used "emergencies" (such as the massive fire in Parliament aka Reichstag (which historians think may have been the work of Hitler's people...reminiscent of Jan. 6?)) to "temporarily suspend democratic procedures":
"With this national security emergency Hitler now had his excuse to crush the Communists, silence moderates, and create laws giving him sweeping new powers. Suddenly in Germany you were either with Hitler or against him."
Sounds like the ruling class took notes. While democrats clearly idolized Hitler tactics, the republicans have stayed silent and let the government steam roll over masses. They are just as bad. Gutless.
Exactly. The comments from Sotomayor after having weeks to read up on facts and data to prepare are extremely (dumb) disappointing. If SCOTUS folds on this abuse of power by the Grifter In Chief, I'm not sure what I'll do but will officially be spiritually broken as a U.S. Citizen. Pray. Plan. Prepare. Resist. Your life depends on it.
Several years ago, a colleague asked a lawyer how a court would likely rule if a dispute arose. The lawyers first words were, "We have to assume the courts will be just...", and then he gave the rest of his answer.
Those words made an impression on me at the time. As the years wore on, and especially in the last five years or so, I've seen too many examples of the courts NOT being just. The Supreme Court is no exception.
To me, it's become more a roll of the dice than a ruling based on the law, the facts, and the Constitution.
IMO SCOTUS mooted itself when it refused to hear suits prior to the 2020 election as they are clearly more interested in saving their institution as it now is than constitutional issues. What might save us here is there are so many suing, the breadth of those suing across the nation, and the fact that so many people refuse the jab. It was far easier politically to duck before the election. And the operative word is "politically," not constitutionally.
Yep. That's the main example I had in mind. But I didn't want to write a rant so long nobody would read it.
The other examples are the treatment of General Flynn. Emmett Sullivan allowed him to continue to twist in the wind long after the DOJ had decided to drop the charges.
Then we have the incarceration of the Jan 6 prisoners in the DC Lubyanka. There's 0 - zero evidence of conspiracy, insurrection, sedition, whatever you want to call it. Almost all are charged with minor crimes like trespassing. Almost all have never before been even charged with a felony, much less convicted. But they continue to be held with no bail- while others who were in the capitol that day haven't even been detained.
Recently, the 6th Circuit Appeals Court Overruled the 5th Circuit Appeals Court on vaccine mandates. When has it ever happened before that one appeals court overruled another? It's not supposed to happen. When different appeals courts make different rulings, the rulings continue to stand in each circuit, until the difference is settled by the Supreme Court.
I could write a few more paragraphs, but that's enough to make the point.
All of this and more! For me, it doesn't matter what SCOTUS says as I will not take the jab, and am even ready to forgo medical treatment if it comes to that. They will have to hold me down to take this junk and I will cause as much damage in the fight as I can.
I'm very worried about the situation in Washington State. Some governmental agency is meeting to discuss mandatory vaccination of the whole state. The State government employees are already mandated, and a bunch of employees were fired, including a friend.
Excellent point. But in theory we the people decide, in elections and Article 5. But it has become too cumbersome now that the size of the country is so much larger than inception.
In theory, yes, we have a voice. Sadly, we're saddled with a supermajority of "educated" people who are unable think critically, have no concept of actual history, are hopelessly addicted to social media, and share a collective attention span of about 10-12 seconds.
I wonder if SCOTUS became neurotic with appointments of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh & Barrett: all the hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing that the court became conservative, to fuel the "pack-the-court" threat.
Since his "Obamacare is a tax" ruling why should you? I think in this case he knows how totally foolish he is going to look if he sides with Sotomayor's arguments.
You are correct that they have pretty much ceased to make rulings based on facts and the Constitution. I expect this ruling will be based on old-fashioned naked politics. Do they codify a highly unpopular rule that will wreak havoc at the behest of an administration with 35% approval ratings? Or do they punt the ball back to Congress and let them worry about it. My bet is on the latter.
Haha, I use the same joke for doctors... especially now. I'm going to use up all of my FSA money walking out of doctors' offices until I find one who isn't suckling the Pfizer teat.
Me too. Breyer was really ridiculous in his rant about Covid deaths, crowded hospitals. I was clear the conservative judges were better informed. But I would not say yet that the mandate is over. One should never forecast SCOTUS.
Totally agree...and thus those who do that have no place in making public policy or determining the intent of a law, especially the supreme law of the land.
Painful as it was, I soldiered through. For this I am praying this is not sent to the corrupt congress, passed to the states authority, but recognizes PEOPLE have the right to determine their own treatments.
There is this phenomenon where old scared men all change their name to Karen. People who are physically feeble should not be in charge of passing laws that cater to the most feeble among us. The feeble just need to stay home so the rest of us can go on with our lives.
Except that he is against court increase, and refused to be bullied by progressives who want his retirement now. That said, it sounded like he listened to Biden and believed everything he heard. I am not optimistic. I had to turn it off too.
He's an aging utilitarian with no use or respect for the Constitution. He is part of the reason we're where we are now. Ginsberg was in the same category.
At least with the nakedly political justices like Kagan, you know what you're getting.
82 years old. these power hungry control freaks never retire. Power and media adulation are all they have. This is probably the last chance the Dems have to control this process for a while but he is going to pull an RBG and then with luck we will be at 7-2 in a few years
Fauci's not the same story. Dude has 8 months left. When the GOP takes over he will get the hell out of dodge. Until we ship him to a tribunal in the Hague.
Horsey, I pray you are correct, but SCOTUS is not wanting to PO the Xiden admin and get more members, so I can't be that confident, especially with Roberts who goes with the political winds.
It is staggering. I have never ever been so stunned. I thought they were more intellectual, but OMG they are incredibly stupid. I cannot say I am stunned often enough. They are clowns.
Nurse here - agree. Some are now saying they don’t want the booster that is started to be mandated at hospitals. Well when they didn’t stand up against the vaccine mandate what did they think they would stand on to argue against the booster mandate?
Yesterday the Moderna CEO said he expects boosters will have to be given indefinitely. At what point will the majority of the medical establishment come to the conclusion that they don’t want the boosters?
Yep. At every step of compliance, you lose some people who would have been allies had you stood up sooner. Now the fight will be more difficult because the principled people are already gone and can no longer help.
Exactly. I’ve been saying this to friends about those who took to keep jobs. I’m like dude. Where will your line be. Trust God now or later. The vax isn’t saving you and the establishment backing down.
Welcome to my world having had to listen to SCOTUS hear complex patent law cases - it's like watching 9 blind people describing an elephant - and the Amicus! Don't get me started on the misrepresentations of law and facts presented by the Amicus. Sotomayor probably picked up the 100k kids on vents from a footnote in some amicus brief. If she is taking queues from Breyer (optimal net solution), those 2 will vote to uphold the regulation, but they shouldn't.
Took the post right away from me! I am praying SCOTUS see the PEOPLE have rights, not just the states and federal governments. There is, after all, such a decision by SCOTUS on the books that people have a right to determine their medical treatments. AFLD is arguing in their case this is not a vax but a treatment.
One factor not to be overlooked is that Trump chose his 3 justices from a list drawn-up by a very pro-business think tank. This OSHA reg would create an absolutely HUGE burden on businesses (particularly if they keep moving the goalposts on what constitutes "fully vaxxed"). I think anyone who would end up on a list drawn up by pro-business people will look at it from that angle.
The problem is…where do you go to work? Especially for healthcare workers. Or those who are in fields that are typically tied to high level corporate work. And even there the way they are getting us is forcing ALL SUB CONTRACTS TO COMPLY. so you landscapers your security guards your lowest level contractors who already feel the staffing crunch will not be able to keep their bread and butter contracts. It’s a way bigger deal than anyone sees.
How is it possible a justice is so misinformed and blatantly makes up a number with no source cited. You would think justice Thomas would have immediately jumped in to correct her. I do not think there are 100,000 people in general in the hospital! Justice Breyar insinuated that if they wait 75,000 more a day will get Covid! There are countless thousands of TRIPLE JABBED getting Covid/common cold right now. Breyar thinks if you DID mandate the jabs you would immediately STOP all infections. What an idiot. Omicron is nature's vaccine.
Justice Thomas is focused on crafting the argument to win. He's not going to engage needlessly with arguing with Branch Civilians. That is the smart way to handle oral argument.
Agreed. My suspicion is that Thomas saw no utility in humiliating her in public. I am sure that conversation is taking place in chambers. It's possible that they will make the correct ruling while not correcting her in the text of that, which in my view would be a mistake.
I would LOVE to hear him elegantly correct her. Simply ask her the SOURCE for her 100,000 children figure? Of course he could have the source for the actual number of children WITHOUT other serious medical issues in the hospital. The challenge is getting the REAL number that is not inflated. This study show the risk of children being hospitalized is under 1% https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211221/Risk-of-hospitalization-for-infants-and-children-with-COVID-19-below-125.aspx
I'm beginning to understand the hysterical broken people I occasionally have to interact with on Facebook or whatever. This is the bullshit they are hearing, from who knows where.
They hear nonstop lies, aka propaganda, all day, every day, continually, from the corporate (mass) media, and from the "alternative" media as well. They're all controlled and lavishly funded by the same forces that gave us the "novel" coronavirus and the poison injections.
The hell with all of them. They broke themselves they can be neurotic to the grave while I enjoy all the blessings I have been given in this short lifetime
Yes, the "Karens" have no interest in learning differing opinions. They firmly believe in conformation bias. I had one scream at me hysterically after I told she was wrong & I know people in that profession at a state level (this wasn't about virus but education). She needed a valium I thought.
My limo-commie real-estate-mogul sister's like that. Always spoiling to start an argument about things she knows nothing about except from CNN. When she starts losing, always quickly, she deflects to the usual ad hominem -- "racist", "bigot" etc -- even though I don't believe in race: I believe in ML King's Dream of a colorblind society. Like all race-fluffing Dems, she's the racist in the room.
All Christians racist? Did she have any reasoning behind that? The new testament says nothing about race. It's open to all regardless of skin color.
Next time see how she likes "all Dems are racist" tossed back in her face. It's not totally true, but nearly so. Surely some Dems still believe in ML King's Dream, but I haven't seen one in many years. The D platform openly jams us all into arbitrary skin color / "identity" boxes and discriminates between us on that basis - racism. Registered Dems vote for that racist platform.
You would think a US Supreme Court Justice could cut through the nonsense with scalpel or chain saw.....but NO. They are gorging on the herd propaganda virus lies.
That's absolutely embarrassing and shameful of her. Few things enrage me more than highly intelligent people in positions that require decorum, curiosity, and objectivity showing such disregard for all of them. We need to get politics out of *everything*. Its ability to turn everything it touches into imbecilic caricature is the worst kind of virus.
My guess is a very simple one: She misread the hospitalization stats, which are often reported as "per 100,000." Example from today's The Hill:
"According to CDC data, in the week ending Jan. 1, children under the age of 4 had 4.3 COVID-19 associated hospitalizations per 100,000. Children ages 5 to 17 had only 1.1 hospitalizations per 100,000. Both are well under the rate of 14.7 in adults over 65."
She must have missed the "per" portion of the data; all she saw was that magical 100,000 figure that she WANTED to see.
Shame on her. If she misses critical details like this, she has ZERO business on the bench.
Biden actually reads covid lies off of a teleprompter. Someone writes them out for him. I wouldn't be surprised if Sotomayer is fed lies from the same people.
I'm listening now to the arguments on YouTube and just can't figure out why this video hasn't been taken down with all of Sotomayor's misinformation? Account suspension for C-Span, etc., right!?!? Isn't that how this works?
Her Majesty Lindsey Graham, Queen of Carolina, sheparded Sotomayjorrrrrra's confirmation start to finish, big assists by Cabana Boy Marco Rubio, John McStain et ilk.
I did read that people who consume controlled media like the NYT and MSNBC have a greatly exaggerated understanding of the impact of "COVID-1984" on America. I don't think Sonia watches "War Room: Pandemic" every day. LOL!
Yeah, a couple of months ago, Bill Maher began his move away from the progressives by mocking the fact that polls showed that a significant percentage of Democrats, something like 25% of them, thought that they had a 50% chance of dying upon infection with the Covid coronavirus.
The science discussion is completely irrelevant in this case.
OSHA doesn't have the authority. Period. End of discussion.
It aggravates me that effectivity is even part of the arguments. Or have we completely ceded control to the bureaucrats with an occasional review by the courts to give a fig-leaf of respectability?
Almost Half the Court doesn't care if OSHA has authority or not...it's the Agenda of the NWO on the docket.....not OSHA's authority. We'll be lucky if it's 5-4 against OSHA!!
Even if the vax was 100% effective, the core argument is whether the Federal Government can force an individual or business to comply with any order dictated by the Executive with such a broad scope of authority.
One thing I've learned over the years, is that you cannot engage irrational (fearful) people in a rational discussion. What we see as an open-minded, rational debate is not possible when one party is irrational. Therefore, expect anything - other than a rational outcome.
The CMS mandate absolutely must fall along with the OSHA mandate. The sheer ignorance or willful lying on part of Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer was astonishing.
The way these people are speaking, it's clear none of them have a fucking clue what's actually happening in the real world. They're talking like getting vaccinated means you WILL NOT spread the virus. What the fuck.
He pinned the solicitor down on who's protecting who and she was forced to admit that they are protecting the unvaccinated from the unvaccinated (because to say otherwise would be an admission that the vaccines don't work).
In which case, there's no argument for the mandate. If you want protection, it's available to you. If not, that's your problem. Never mind that the vaccine is a permanent action under a temporary emergency standard.
- the Solicitor General of the US say vaccines prevent transmission and sickness.
- SC Justice Sotomayor say that 100,000 kids are sick and in grave danger, on ventilators, right now.
- SC Justice Breyer say that every day we don't have a vaccine mandate, 750,000 more people will get Covid, because of THAT
The level of misinformation, lack of prep, whatever you call it...at the nation's highest levels - is appalling. I always had tremendous respect for USSC justices, but today that went down several levels.
The oral arguments were very discouraging to listen too. I just wish someone had the guts to say out loud in court that the vaccines don't work the way they were promised, they aren't going to stop the virus and that these rules completely ignore the concept of natural immunity. Sotomayor may have been off base, Kagan clearly showed that she believes in more power to the federal government but IMO it was Breyer who showed himself as too scared of his own mortality to be objective.
Sotomayor working remotely shows that she knows the vaccines don't work. Yet, she is still going to vote to force it on the public.... The cognitive dissonance here is mind boggling.
What I learned today is that the liberal wing of the Supreme Court has spent the past two years watching CNN and MSNBC. Wow.
Lol - I was going to make a joke about the MSNBC-watching justices wing too
Who is feeding Sotomayor the bunk she spewed from the bench today? One is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
Propagandizing from the bench. Far more alarming than covid.
I only watched parts of it, but I found Kagan's comments on policy, that we know vaccination is best followed by masking, to be incredibly ironic, considering the current state of science (notwithstanding the current state of "the science"). I continue to believe that science is a continuing query of exploration, with few known, especially about newly discovered viruses.
To paraphrase Dr. Malone: “Most scientific “understanding” is best expressed as a working hypothesis. Questioning science is how you DO science.”
And the 3 lefty justices (Kagan, Breyer, Sotomayor) all did so with not a single thought about trying to at least seem unbiased in a case! So quick were they to signal that they were with their tribe/crowd with the "correct" narrative. I mean, think whatever crazy thing you want, but DONT say it! Just seems so absolutely reckless in a supreme court justice.
The fact that they got ALL the facts wrong also calls into question their intelligence.
So....no judicial temperament, combined with virtue signaling, combined with obvious bias, along with a complete inability to grasp the basic facts....
I agree, very alarming!
She's the poster child for affirmative action. I don't think she's ever known what she's doing.
She even touted herself as an affirmative action candidate with her “wide Latina woman” racist and sexist nonsense
LOL, I think you mean “wise Latina woman” but oddly your way works too
Not "LatinX"? LOL!!!
Love when the boo-boos end up being true-true!
LOL! Hahaha!
Oh, yes, autocorrect, but wide does work too
LMAO
Wide. Perfect.
Obama tells her what to think.
She does not think she FEELS therefore she continues to be stupid
Sad but true.
When it comes to the IQ of Supreme Court Justices, Justice Sotomayor comes in 10th.
at least she beat the gavil
If we are including the gavel, then she is 11th.
Math is so racist! I think I counted a water bottle.
Supreme Court Justice Rachel Maddow?
Nailed It!
She is not smart. Knows nothing about science or numbers.
Didn't she have massive credit card debt?
She doesn't need to know about medicine or science. She needs to know about the US Constitution.
It doesn't matter if the vaccines are a cure for cancer. It matters whether anyone can be FORCED to take them.
Exactly! If vaccines don't prevent transmission, why are we having this discussion?!?! "Prevention" should be an individual choice.
Even if the vaccines DID prevent transmission…this discussion would still be about removing an inalienable right…liberty
Justice Kagan mentioned in the court today that vaccines DO block transmission.
Since individual choice implies body autonomy-which may be a human right, but not a constitutional protection, I don't think the Supreme court will ever deal with the gross violation of the medical ethical principle of informed consent since it is not specified by law, but by a code of ethics.
Exactly. So why did she even go there at all just to show us how stupid she is? These “smart” people are proving to be duds and lack any sort of curiosity. After Cruz, the brilliant one, comments about 1/6, I conclude the brightest and best have had their brains removed.
Cruz is smart. He was just being a whore.
Testify!
You nailed it. The next step is going after these corporations for violating the Constitution and the Nuremberg Code by coercing people to take an experimental treatment or lose their livelihoods. The employers should be held liable for any and all adverse events and deaths.
Exactly! Are any of these mandates within the law? Decidedly NOT and admitted so re the OSHA portion by some of Biden's own administration. Ugh...
Spot on!
Exactly! In my tradition, “on one foot”
Yes exactly!!! I didn’t hear much on this topic this morning.. maybe ther is more to come, I hope!!!
I think before she was placed on the Supreme Court she was known for having her rulings overturned by higher courts.
Sotomayor is a radical...expect nothing but nonsensical crap from her.
You read that, too? I think I saw that at the time she was nominated. I don't remember the percent, but it was noteworthy.
To me she epitomizes the problem of the new left. She's indignant, obstinate, and not dealing with matters of fact. A lousy political activist posing as a judge. Just as the left wants it. Let alone the actual constitutional question at issue. In a way, you have to marvel at their singlemindedness.
she probably gets a Media Matters update daily
I cannot get my head around how a member of the supreme court can be so far out of touch. How is that remotely possible...crazzzzy! My 12 year old has a better grasp on what the science says right now on the whu-flu.
Seems more and more likely, but the mere thought of a supreme court justice actually spewing lies "intentionally" makes her what exactly in terms of her integrity and character? Does she realize the precedent she set by doing so. Just a disgrace
Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid.
Worse that she is so very ill informed about such an important topic. Are her staff equally ill informed?
The left only feeds from the trough of the correct narrative. Then you repeat, repeat and repeat. And voila! TRUTH
I'm glad y'all find some gallows-level humour in this. It scares the hell out of me.
Just to be clear, actual science is the exact OPPOSITE of putting blind faith in supposed "experts." And anyone who can't or won't show you the data he relied on or how he reached his conclusions is not a scientist; he is a propagandist. -Larken Rose
Exactly.
Me too. I’m sick to my stomach over the stupidity and evil taking over this country.
Moronic, but if you put the previous strain in the mix, (DELTA OMICRON) it's an anagram that spells Media Control.
Me too. I am floored by this level of stupidity.
"Intelligence is hateful for dumb people." 😂
The Judge's chambers must be like the airport . All CNN, All the time.
Many of you may think this but i dont believe it for one minute. They are very smart people they are not going to stick a substance in their body because Anthony Fauci, says so that is like Anthony Fauci, telling everyone to jump off of a bridge. I myself look at these vaccine trials as like a drug that Hunter Biden, would pick up off of a street corner. People like Joe Biden, have no respect for himself and dont care about the outcome he is only living for the moment without no future in mind. Normal people dont put things in their body where there is no credible proof of effectiveness. No President like this Bag of Bones in the White House has ever spoke to the American people like he has, and the media does not hold his feet to the fire on anything. Berenson was right all along, and he keeps proving them wrong and they are all to blind to see it.
hahahaha.
Love Judge Thomas, he is a trustworthy Justice. God bless America.
This is the only judge,on the entire panel, I can trust.
It's terrifying to think there are attorney's arguing for this tyranny.
He’s my favorite too! ❤️
God Bless America 🇺🇸
I put Thomas and Alito on the same pedestal.
Exactly Justice Samuel! The reason OSHA can mandate things such as safety glasses and safety training is that at the end of the day, they are reversible actions. I can take off my safety glasses when I go home. If I really wanted to, I could just forget about my training. The difference with a vaccine is that it IS a medical procedure and can not be undone onto the human body.
Sotomayor, there are no 100.000 Covid babies on Ventilators. There are 3,000 drug dependents parent's babies on Ventilators. Why are you spreading lies and continued fear?
This was a tragic moment. First, it's totally wrong, and second she's acting like a member of the squad, not a Supreme Court justice trying to resolve a constitutional question.
Cancel culture woke Karen.
Sotomayor totally pulling out the fake news of thousands of children on ventilators . What a load of horse manure .
When a person is installed in a position for reasons other than their qualifications for the job, it looks like you get what you "paid for."
This Plandemic includes the infiltration of the courts in preparation of the NWO. There Are No Coincidences ! Sotomayor is a plant installed by Obama, just for these occasions where facts don't matter and agenda is everything !
Yup, she is told what to think.
Just like Kamala
She'd be pitiful if she wasn't so reprehensible.
Obama loves her.
🤢🤢🤢🤢
See? THIS is what I mean about affirmative action!
We pay hell of a lot for that idiot's opinion.
And that’s exactly what it is- ‘ an idiot’s opinion’. We pay a lot for opinions of idiots. 😂😂😂
We're paying an awful lot these days for pure stupidity.
Here's the REAL data, from today's US News and World Report (for what that's worth):
"Among 102 kids ages 12 to 18 who were hospitalized with the condition, none who had received two Pfizer shots at least 28 days earlier needed ventilators or other advanced life support. By contrast, 40% of unvaccinated children required such treatment."
So, 40% of 102 equals....about 40.
And notice no one is talking about the health of those kids PRIOR to hospitalization. Obese? Existing heart problems? Diabetes? It doesn't matter in this one-size-fits-all plandemic world!
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-01-07/hospitalizations-skyrocket-in-kids-too-young-for-covid-shots
The timing of such articles is beyond suspicious… again. Children are the target.. a long term customer. Dr Malone is clear of all the harm inflicted to all organs during developmental ages not to mention stark infertility. See Joe Rogan Podcast.
Ever notice how the "why won't someone think of the children???" media narrative *always* bubbles to the surface around the time schools are set to resume? The kids are doing fine, but then when the Dem-city schools are set to resume, covid suddenly becomes danger #1 to children all over again.
The pattern has been undeniable.
Again - I also wonder whether these kids were receiving any early treatment. And, how is it possible that this far into covid hospitals are still putting people on ventilators!! It is extraordinarily contraindicated. Plus - to your point - even the CDC is admitting that 60% of children who had severe complications from covid were obese.
So back in June when I had my accident and landed in the hospital, those waiting for care in the huge waiting area were the poor. I visited ER several times that month for injuries due to accident. I heard many of the cases while waiting. Most of these folks had many issues. The poor have difficulty just getting to hospital because of transportation. So I imagine something would need to be bad to bring child to hospital. Early treatment? I doubt it. Just want to add something funny here. I had to have scans due to my injuries. I had a concussion among many other fun stuff. Technician said to me as they were taking pictures of head, body, “geez, you are in good shape”. I am going to be 70. Imagine what they must routinely see to say that. 😂
That’s my plan! I turn 56 next month and given the sorry state of our medical infrastructure and the programming of our doctors, I will continue taking the very next possible care of my body so I can avoid hospitals and doctors at all costs!
Me too
I’m hoping that you’re feeling much better. Thank you for the insight
Thank you
Interesting wording. None who had received 2 phizerbshoys 28 days prior!? So how many that had received 2 shots witching 4 weeks were? It implies at least some non zero number or why segregate the data that way
Phizer shots* and within 4 weeks* lol
One would think she’d be better informed, or at least not open her mouth and prove her ignorance.
She is going to live to regret being that stupid. Her words are going to get used a lot and reveal her ignorance. The stuff she said was disproven long ago. All that is left now is that vaccines may help sick person have less symptoms of virus. Even then how can that be proven?
Even Dr Fauci said kids were hospitlized with other things and then tested positive for covid. These Justices are a disaster.
Most in the legal field are absolute imbeciles. They typically lack the ability of linear thinking.
I think doctors are right there with them as far as stupidity goes.
The liberal wing has definitely bought into the fear porn. They will ignore the law out of fear of a virus.
they haven't bought into it, they've been told to sell it because it's the only thing the dems can hang their hat on. they've long been bought and paid for by big pharma and they're just following the set forth rules.
Yes, Yes and Yes.
I'd rather hope they are ignorant and misinformed than pawns of big pharma
But we'll fine out....
Did you see how RFK jr revealed Jake Tapper? Big pharma.
I hate it but the later is more likely true.
I would like to add to that and say they will ignore the law out of *supposed* fear of a virus. It's just the excuse to veil the actual motives.
Watched this several months ago:
https://www.pbs.org/video/the-story-of-fascism-in-europe-pthanf/
One highlight: once Hitler was in power they used "emergencies" (such as the massive fire in Parliament aka Reichstag (which historians think may have been the work of Hitler's people...reminiscent of Jan. 6?)) to "temporarily suspend democratic procedures":
"With this national security emergency Hitler now had his excuse to crush the Communists, silence moderates, and create laws giving him sweeping new powers. Suddenly in Germany you were either with Hitler or against him."
~ minutes 19-22
But I recommend watching the whole thing:)
Sounds like the ruling class took notes. While democrats clearly idolized Hitler tactics, the republicans have stayed silent and let the government steam roll over masses. They are just as bad. Gutless.
Fear has nothing to do with something being Constitutional. Acting out of fear never ends well.
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
And *that* has become the trouble with America. Liberals and Leftists.
Malcom X and Muhammed Ali both said in the early 1960's that the greatest threat to black people is the white liberal. Truth. Hard and fast.
It’s sad and to their discredit that most blacks still haven’t figured that out.
Many more Blacks have left the Plantation than people are aware. When a couple of Black friends were asked, Why don't you speak up ?
They said they didn't want to get shot. True story.
Not nearly enough.
>90% still vote Democrat reliably.
Exactly. The comments from Sotomayor after having weeks to read up on facts and data to prepare are extremely (dumb) disappointing. If SCOTUS folds on this abuse of power by the Grifter In Chief, I'm not sure what I'll do but will officially be spiritually broken as a U.S. Citizen. Pray. Plan. Prepare. Resist. Your life depends on it.
I’m moving to another country. Even Africa is better off than we are right now.
Japan? but they probably wouldn't have us
My son lives in Japan. I don’t think you could get in there right now, even for a visit.
If they do this, the country will break up. People are already moving and states have told Xiden to take a hike.
Hope Alex is right.
Several years ago, a colleague asked a lawyer how a court would likely rule if a dispute arose. The lawyers first words were, "We have to assume the courts will be just...", and then he gave the rest of his answer.
Those words made an impression on me at the time. As the years wore on, and especially in the last five years or so, I've seen too many examples of the courts NOT being just. The Supreme Court is no exception.
To me, it's become more a roll of the dice than a ruling based on the law, the facts, and the Constitution.
IMO SCOTUS mooted itself when it refused to hear suits prior to the 2020 election as they are clearly more interested in saving their institution as it now is than constitutional issues. What might save us here is there are so many suing, the breadth of those suing across the nation, and the fact that so many people refuse the jab. It was far easier politically to duck before the election. And the operative word is "politically," not constitutionally.
Yep. That's the main example I had in mind. But I didn't want to write a rant so long nobody would read it.
The other examples are the treatment of General Flynn. Emmett Sullivan allowed him to continue to twist in the wind long after the DOJ had decided to drop the charges.
Then we have the incarceration of the Jan 6 prisoners in the DC Lubyanka. There's 0 - zero evidence of conspiracy, insurrection, sedition, whatever you want to call it. Almost all are charged with minor crimes like trespassing. Almost all have never before been even charged with a felony, much less convicted. But they continue to be held with no bail- while others who were in the capitol that day haven't even been detained.
Recently, the 6th Circuit Appeals Court Overruled the 5th Circuit Appeals Court on vaccine mandates. When has it ever happened before that one appeals court overruled another? It's not supposed to happen. When different appeals courts make different rulings, the rulings continue to stand in each circuit, until the difference is settled by the Supreme Court.
I could write a few more paragraphs, but that's enough to make the point.
All of this and more! For me, it doesn't matter what SCOTUS says as I will not take the jab, and am even ready to forgo medical treatment if it comes to that. They will have to hold me down to take this junk and I will cause as much damage in the fight as I can.
I completely agree with you. But me being forced to take the jab is secondary.
If they force my 12 yo daughter to take it, I'll fight it to my last breath.
I'm very worried about the situation in Washington State. Some governmental agency is meeting to discuss mandatory vaccination of the whole state. The State government employees are already mandated, and a bunch of employees were fired, including a friend.
This
And ponder the wisdom of having a part of the federal government decide what the limits on the federal government are.
Excellent point. But in theory we the people decide, in elections and Article 5. But it has become too cumbersome now that the size of the country is so much larger than inception.
In theory, yes, we have a voice. Sadly, we're saddled with a supermajority of "educated" people who are unable think critically, have no concept of actual history, are hopelessly addicted to social media, and share a collective attention span of about 10-12 seconds.
No doubt.
I wonder if SCOTUS became neurotic with appointments of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh & Barrett: all the hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing that the court became conservative, to fuel the "pack-the-court" threat.
So they need to prove it's not?
Could well be.
I have heard Roberts like to keep decisions politically neutral, in other words each side should get a win. But yes, they don't want to be packed.
Yes. So sad what has happened to this country.
Hope so too. Do not trust Roberts as far as I can throw him.
Since his "Obamacare is a tax" ruling why should you? I think in this case he knows how totally foolish he is going to look if he sides with Sotomayor's arguments.
I would not be surprised to hear more logic gymnastics like the vax is now considered a tax.
You are correct that they have pretty much ceased to make rulings based on facts and the Constitution. I expect this ruling will be based on old-fashioned naked politics. Do they codify a highly unpopular rule that will wreak havoc at the behest of an administration with 35% approval ratings? Or do they punt the ball back to Congress and let them worry about it. My bet is on the latter.
Yes, and no evidence of election fraud either, or no standing, blah, blah. Flee from Babylon. Rev:18
I did litigation for 30 years. Never assume that judges are smart, knowledgeable, prepared or apolitical.
What do you call the judge who graduated at the bottom of their law school class?
Your Honor.
Haha, I use the same joke for doctors... especially now. I'm going to use up all of my FSA money walking out of doctors' offices until I find one who isn't suckling the Pfizer teat.
🤣😂😲😧🤨😞😖😡🤯
Me too. Breyer was really ridiculous in his rant about Covid deaths, crowded hospitals. I was clear the conservative judges were better informed. But I would not say yet that the mandate is over. One should never forecast SCOTUS.
Conservatives are always better informed on facts. Libs go with emotion and "the crowd".
Totally agree...and thus those who do that have no place in making public policy or determining the intent of a law, especially the supreme law of the land.
Breyer was always going to fall on the side of mandates. He's easily the worst of them. He has no redeeming qualities as a justice.
I had to turn it off! He was making my blood 🩸 boil
Painful as it was, I soldiered through. For this I am praying this is not sent to the corrupt congress, passed to the states authority, but recognizes PEOPLE have the right to determine their own treatments.
Having it passed to state authority has me terrified. They're already considering a state-wide mandate in Washington state.
same
There is this phenomenon where old scared men all change their name to Karen. People who are physically feeble should not be in charge of passing laws that cater to the most feeble among us. The feeble just need to stay home so the rest of us can go on with our lives.
The most dangerous thing to society is weak men in powerful positions.
Quibble here - I would add “weak men or progressive women.”
Exhibit A: Brandon
Exhibit B: Kamala "Montel Williams date" Harris
Except that he is against court increase, and refused to be bullied by progressives who want his retirement now. That said, it sounded like he listened to Biden and believed everything he heard. I am not optimistic. I had to turn it off too.
He's an aging utilitarian with no use or respect for the Constitution. He is part of the reason we're where we are now. Ginsberg was in the same category.
At least with the nakedly political justices like Kagan, you know what you're getting.
82 years old. these power hungry control freaks never retire. Power and media adulation are all they have. This is probably the last chance the Dems have to control this process for a while but he is going to pull an RBG and then with luck we will be at 7-2 in a few years
Pray for his continued good health and continued employment until a Republican president is sworn in.
you talking about Fauci? haha how do these people live so long so well???
Fauci's not the same story. Dude has 8 months left. When the GOP takes over he will get the hell out of dodge. Until we ship him to a tribunal in the Hague.
I'm forecasting: it's Ovuh! 6-3
Horsey, I pray you are correct, but SCOTUS is not wanting to PO the Xiden admin and get more members, so I can't be that confident, especially with Roberts who goes with the political winds.
Was he the one who made the comment about "unvaccinated others"?
Yep as I recall. He is a porn fear addict IMO.
It is staggering. I have never ever been so stunned. I thought they were more intellectual, but OMG they are incredibly stupid. I cannot say I am stunned often enough. They are clowns.
The curtains certainly were drawn back today - just like in The Wizard of Oz.
The emergence of Trump followed by virus has revealed so much and none good.
As have all doctors and nurses stateside I know.
Not all. Many just wanted to keep their jobs. I don’t respect it. If they had all stood and I mean ALL this would not have gone this far.
Nurse here - agree. Some are now saying they don’t want the booster that is started to be mandated at hospitals. Well when they didn’t stand up against the vaccine mandate what did they think they would stand on to argue against the booster mandate?
Yesterday the Moderna CEO said he expects boosters will have to be given indefinitely. At what point will the majority of the medical establishment come to the conclusion that they don’t want the boosters?
Yep. At every step of compliance, you lose some people who would have been allies had you stood up sooner. Now the fight will be more difficult because the principled people are already gone and can no longer help.
Exactly. I’ve been saying this to friends about those who took to keep jobs. I’m like dude. Where will your line be. Trust God now or later. The vax isn’t saving you and the establishment backing down.
Every bit of that is correct.
I seriously couldn't believe my ears today. It was like we had JusticeBots up there instead of qualified professionals.
Agree. And the misinformation from one of the women on the court is mind boggling. How did an woman like that become a supreme court justice.
You know exactly how: The same method by which Heels Up was selected to be VP.
(snicker) Heels Up
My exact thought! Strictly getting their info from people that play journalists on tv and pharma reps that play doctor on the same channel
The Supreme Court will still F..K it up !
No, we're looking at a big victory and it ended with a focus on the injunction. The victory is looking 5-4 but more likely 6-3.
Welcome to my world having had to listen to SCOTUS hear complex patent law cases - it's like watching 9 blind people describing an elephant - and the Amicus! Don't get me started on the misrepresentations of law and facts presented by the Amicus. Sotomayor probably picked up the 100k kids on vents from a footnote in some amicus brief. If she is taking queues from Breyer (optimal net solution), those 2 will vote to uphold the regulation, but they shouldn't.
Bless you my son for having the patience to deal with patent law cases & trying to explain them to intellectually challenged judges. ✝✝✡✡☦☦
🙏🏻
Took the post right away from me! I am praying SCOTUS see the PEOPLE have rights, not just the states and federal governments. There is, after all, such a decision by SCOTUS on the books that people have a right to determine their medical treatments. AFLD is arguing in their case this is not a vax but a treatment.
yeah. me too. Praying
One factor not to be overlooked is that Trump chose his 3 justices from a list drawn-up by a very pro-business think tank. This OSHA reg would create an absolutely HUGE burden on businesses (particularly if they keep moving the goalposts on what constitutes "fully vaxxed"). I think anyone who would end up on a list drawn up by pro-business people will look at it from that angle.
They can't stop anyone from walking off the job over a mandate. At least not yet.
Resist.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-scamdemic-will-magically-end
The problem is…where do you go to work? Especially for healthcare workers. Or those who are in fields that are typically tied to high level corporate work. And even there the way they are getting us is forcing ALL SUB CONTRACTS TO COMPLY. so you landscapers your security guards your lowest level contractors who already feel the staffing crunch will not be able to keep their bread and butter contracts. It’s a way bigger deal than anyone sees.
Home health care hires with exemptions. Can't afford not to.
Specialists can get exemptions in hospitals.
What everyone seems to agree on is that Sotomayor is completely off her rocker. 100K kids in the hospital many on vents? Where???
Leading to the first time we've had to as the question, will the SCOTUS publicly correct their own misinformation?
How is it possible a justice is so misinformed and blatantly makes up a number with no source cited. You would think justice Thomas would have immediately jumped in to correct her. I do not think there are 100,000 people in general in the hospital! Justice Breyar insinuated that if they wait 75,000 more a day will get Covid! There are countless thousands of TRIPLE JABBED getting Covid/common cold right now. Breyar thinks if you DID mandate the jabs you would immediately STOP all infections. What an idiot. Omicron is nature's vaccine.
Justice Thomas is focused on crafting the argument to win. He's not going to engage needlessly with arguing with Branch Civilians. That is the smart way to handle oral argument.
Yeah Thomas rarely speaks but he holds the keys. Humble before power. Simply the best.
Agreed. My suspicion is that Thomas saw no utility in humiliating her in public. I am sure that conversation is taking place in chambers. It's possible that they will make the correct ruling while not correcting her in the text of that, which in my view would be a mistake.
I would LOVE to hear him elegantly correct her. Simply ask her the SOURCE for her 100,000 children figure? Of course he could have the source for the actual number of children WITHOUT other serious medical issues in the hospital. The challenge is getting the REAL number that is not inflated. This study show the risk of children being hospitalized is under 1% https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211221/Risk-of-hospitalization-for-infants-and-children-with-COVID-19-below-125.aspx
I hope you're right. He's been my hero.
Yes. Imagine if Scalia wasn't RIP.
He's mine.
Even if Omicron *isn’t* nature’s vaccine, the “vaccines” aren’t, either!
It's called affirmative action.
YES! YES! YES!
https://babylonbee.com/news/oral-arguments-postponed-as-justice-sotomayor-gets-gavel-stuck-up-her-nose-again
The Propaganda Shit has infiltrated the SCOTUS. Does the SCOTUS also lack critical thinking and research skills???
I'm beginning to understand the hysterical broken people I occasionally have to interact with on Facebook or whatever. This is the bullshit they are hearing, from who knows where.
I’m telling everyone. It’s a spirit of delusion of Biblical proportions
We are living in the end of the end times.
They hear nonstop lies, aka propaganda, all day, every day, continually, from the corporate (mass) media, and from the "alternative" media as well. They're all controlled and lavishly funded by the same forces that gave us the "novel" coronavirus and the poison injections.
The hell with all of them. They broke themselves they can be neurotic to the grave while I enjoy all the blessings I have been given in this short lifetime
Yes, the "Karens" have no interest in learning differing opinions. They firmly believe in conformation bias. I had one scream at me hysterically after I told she was wrong & I know people in that profession at a state level (this wasn't about virus but education). She needed a valium I thought.
My limo-commie real-estate-mogul sister's like that. Always spoiling to start an argument about things she knows nothing about except from CNN. When she starts losing, always quickly, she deflects to the usual ad hominem -- "racist", "bigot" etc -- even though I don't believe in race: I believe in ML King's Dream of a colorblind society. Like all race-fluffing Dems, she's the racist in the room.
OH this "Karen" went so far as to say all Christians are racist. What! She liked to use "all" this or that in her stmts.
All Christians racist? Did she have any reasoning behind that? The new testament says nothing about race. It's open to all regardless of skin color.
Next time see how she likes "all Dems are racist" tossed back in her face. It's not totally true, but nearly so. Surely some Dems still believe in ML King's Dream, but I haven't seen one in many years. The D platform openly jams us all into arbitrary skin color / "identity" boxes and discriminates between us on that basis - racism. Registered Dems vote for that racist platform.
You would think a US Supreme Court Justice could cut through the nonsense with scalpel or chain saw.....but NO. They are gorging on the herd propaganda virus lies.
Yes they must lack critical thinking else they would ask more intelligent questions.
Ponder their social circles, where they live, etc...
With the exception of Thomas, these are all creatures of DC. And DC has gone mad.
Barking mad, to use a Dr. Malone term 🙂
I loved hearing that on Rogan's podcast. I think Dr. Malone should trademark it.
Having lived in that area, I know they are mad. They really do think the rest of the country is flyover.
Leftism is, and indicates, a more open bias towards emotions.
Feelings and idealism over cold hard rational truth.
Wokeism is better understood as "Emotionalism"
Which is a bias toward Emotional Reasoning,
Emotional Reasoning means if it feels good it is good
Emotional Reasoning means if it feels good it is true
Emotional Reasoning means if it feels bad it is bad
Emotional Reasoning means if it feels bad it is not true
Emotional Reasoning means my feelings trump your facts,
Emotional Reasoning means my feelings ARE THE FACTS.
I thought they had law clerks doing all that research stuff. Somebody messed up. Or maybe she was just bleating what she heard on cnn, etc.
Sotomayor is the emobidment of mass formation psychosis.
That's absolutely embarrassing and shameful of her. Few things enrage me more than highly intelligent people in positions that require decorum, curiosity, and objectivity showing such disregard for all of them. We need to get politics out of *everything*. Its ability to turn everything it touches into imbecilic caricature is the worst kind of virus.
My guess is a very simple one: She misread the hospitalization stats, which are often reported as "per 100,000." Example from today's The Hill:
"According to CDC data, in the week ending Jan. 1, children under the age of 4 had 4.3 COVID-19 associated hospitalizations per 100,000. Children ages 5 to 17 had only 1.1 hospitalizations per 100,000. Both are well under the rate of 14.7 in adults over 65."
She must have missed the "per" portion of the data; all she saw was that magical 100,000 figure that she WANTED to see.
Shame on her. If she misses critical details like this, she has ZERO business on the bench.
So. She can’t do math in her head.
She can't read.
LOL I bet you are right, that makes sense.
She confused Biden talking points with her own. That's all she has....fake talking points.
Biden actually reads covid lies off of a teleprompter. Someone writes them out for him. I wouldn't be surprised if Sotomayer is fed lies from the same people.
CDC says ~3500
I'm listening now to the arguments on YouTube and just can't figure out why this video hasn't been taken down with all of Sotomayor's misinformation? Account suspension for C-Span, etc., right!?!? Isn't that how this works?
The rules do not apply to them
Surely the "fact-checkers" will set this straight! ;)
"Fact-checkers" have opinions opposed to your facts.
I was being sarcastic :)
I got that.
Maybe but one Supreme Court Justice, a wise latina with a law degree from MSNBC University may have raised some points during this oral arguments:
- Claimed covid deaths are at an all time high
- Claimed that Omicron has been deadlier than Delta
- Claimed 100K children are hospitalized with covid
- Said OSHA's regulatory authority is a federal "police power."
Is she that stupid or just pretending
She is that stupid.
Yeah she is really dumb. A complete token hire.
I'm not getting a vaccine because she's a fearful crazy.
point. score.
She has no business being on the court, the Rhino Pubs. caved to Political Correctness.
Her Majesty Lindsey Graham, Queen of Carolina, sheparded Sotomayjorrrrrra's confirmation start to finish, big assists by Cabana Boy Marco Rubio, John McStain et ilk.
I did read that people who consume controlled media like the NYT and MSNBC have a greatly exaggerated understanding of the impact of "COVID-1984" on America. I don't think Sonia watches "War Room: Pandemic" every day. LOL!
Yeah, a couple of months ago, Bill Maher began his move away from the progressives by mocking the fact that polls showed that a significant percentage of Democrats, something like 25% of them, thought that they had a 50% chance of dying upon infection with the Covid coronavirus.
That explains a lot. These people would have us all stuffed into camps.
Try asking Dems how many African American men are killed by cops each year. It is appalling ignorance.
She's in her DC bubble. About as well informed as your average NY socialite.
The science discussion is completely irrelevant in this case.
OSHA doesn't have the authority. Period. End of discussion.
It aggravates me that effectivity is even part of the arguments. Or have we completely ceded control to the bureaucrats with an occasional review by the courts to give a fig-leaf of respectability?
They forgot to discuss constitutional issues. According to DNC party apparatchiks US Constitution is the best constitution in the world to ignore.
It's "dated" the UN has suggested much better ones dontchaknow
who cares what they think? really? the nerve
ha.. or in future, revise
Almost Half the Court doesn't care if OSHA has authority or not...it's the Agenda of the NWO on the docket.....not OSHA's authority. We'll be lucky if it's 5-4 against OSHA!!
Covid is the gift that keeps on giving. It pulls back the curtain showing the world how unimpressive the Elites of our society are.
Good point. Unimpressive but still a menace.
Even if the vax was 100% effective, the core argument is whether the Federal Government can force an individual or business to comply with any order dictated by the Executive with such a broad scope of authority.
It was hard to listen to for those of us who can refute their bogus claims on polio and covid illnesses and vaccines.
This. Over and over.
Right. Was anyone really interested? If a federal agency can do this, any agency can do anything.
One thing I've learned over the years, is that you cannot engage irrational (fearful) people in a rational discussion. What we see as an open-minded, rational debate is not possible when one party is irrational. Therefore, expect anything - other than a rational outcome.
Thank you, wrote this on a Post-it so I stop falling into the same snare
Good word…snare! 🤦🏼♀️
I always say... you can't talk to crazy!
It is sad that bodily autonomy and the Bill of Rights are not being discussed as the central issue.
Much like “science,” none of that is relevant when this is all political.
The CMS mandate absolutely must fall along with the OSHA mandate. The sheer ignorance or willful lying on part of Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer was astonishing.
willful
Why are they concerned with medical treatment issues. This is about personal autonomy and Federal overreach.
That would be the CONSTITUTIONAL argument. Unfortunately, we appear to be in a post-constitutional Republic.
One thing is obvious. Please rescind the term "Wise Latina" from Sotomayor. She is ignorant.
Justice Sophomore. The Wise Fool.
The way these people are speaking, it's clear none of them have a fucking clue what's actually happening in the real world. They're talking like getting vaccinated means you WILL NOT spread the virus. What the fuck.
Alito gets it.
He pinned the solicitor down on who's protecting who and she was forced to admit that they are protecting the unvaccinated from the unvaccinated (because to say otherwise would be an admission that the vaccines don't work).
In which case, there's no argument for the mandate. If you want protection, it's available to you. If not, that's your problem. Never mind that the vaccine is a permanent action under a temporary emergency standard.
Agree...it was eye opening and beyond frightening!
I heard the Solicitor General state this multiple times...and I said WTF out loud (alone) in my office right along with her.
Today I heard at Supreme Court:
- the Solicitor General of the US say vaccines prevent transmission and sickness.
- SC Justice Sotomayor say that 100,000 kids are sick and in grave danger, on ventilators, right now.
- SC Justice Breyer say that every day we don't have a vaccine mandate, 750,000 more people will get Covid, because of THAT
The level of misinformation, lack of prep, whatever you call it...at the nation's highest levels - is appalling. I always had tremendous respect for USSC justices, but today that went down several levels.
But Sotomayor is a complete moron.
I was under the impression that Breyer was being facetious when he said that.
If he was serious, it would align with everything else he said (that the virus is terrible, horrible, deadly, run for your life, etc.)
It would be very surprising if he were.
It is so sad that the (lack of) efficacy of the vaccines is not central to their argument.
Among many other arguments
Good Sir, do you dare Blaspheme the Dhimmi Eucharist?!
The oral arguments were very discouraging to listen too. I just wish someone had the guts to say out loud in court that the vaccines don't work the way they were promised, they aren't going to stop the virus and that these rules completely ignore the concept of natural immunity. Sotomayor may have been off base, Kagan clearly showed that she believes in more power to the federal government but IMO it was Breyer who showed himself as too scared of his own mortality to be objective.
I only heard of how many times mistrial Breyer seemed. Sad
As if the facts and truth matter at all.
Sotomayor working remotely shows that she knows the vaccines don't work. Yet, she is still going to vote to force it on the public.... The cognitive dissonance here is mind boggling.