While strong ideology on either side almost inherently contains elements of fantasy: We can defund the police and nothing will happen! The Russian dictator stands for ‘Merica’s values!
No... the "radicals" are correct on Ukraine i.e. Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc... Being anti-war does not make you a strong ideological fanatic.
Had Trump followed through on withdrawing from NATO, this war would not have happened, and the NYT is somehow using this war to critique his foreign policy? What "reality" is this?!
The Neo-cons and Obama Admin are largely to blame for this War:
This is typical idiot comparison. Trump era foreign policy likely would have resulted in NO INVASION in the first place! I am so sick of this “conservatives are pro Putin” BS! Just because Tucker Carlson raises questions and takes the perspextive of what he thinks is best for AMERICA regarding entanglements and addresses corruption in Ukraine while not wanting other peoples kids to go over and get killed doesn’t mean he thinks that vodka chugging thug in Moscow is not a war criminal committing an illegal invasion!
"We can defund the police and nothing will happen!" Yes lots of major mainstream leftists have said this and more, such as defunding the police will improve things and "make our communities safer", etc. Some are even still saying it.
"The Russian dictator stands for ‘Merica’s values!" I have never heard anyone say anything close to this. Did I miss something?
Please go back to Covid. So much is happening right now and we need your insight on it. The vaccine side effects appear to be hitting the fan, but we need you to breakdown the numbers.
Alex, who is saying Putin stands for American values? Or, if this is a caricature of certain people on the right, who are you caricaturing? Everybody on the right I've heard seems to be bending over backward to say that Putin is a horrible dictator in the same way they bent over backward (or maybe forward) to say that the vaccine is safe and effective while fighting against mandates. (The number of disclaimers one has to put in front of one's argument tells you a lot about the state of free speech and debate in this country. It's one of the reasons I was careful to delete the shield of a disclaimer I put in front of this comment.)
Seems to me Trump-era foreign policy actually kept us out of conflicts. This is the NYT trying to down play the influence of people like Tucker Carlson as too many are starting to consider other explanations about the timing of this conflict and the ready-made narrative ("You must support Ukraine!"). I feel like we just went through a parallel experience recently.....hmmmm....can't quite put my finger on it.
You'd have to be an idiot to think defunding police is going to help the situation. Or sending five foot tall 100 pound women social workers to deal with three hundred pound men having nervous breakdowns
While the left generally supported defund the police and BLM for the past two years, not a single conservative voice I know of suggested that Putin stands for America’s values.
We have a serious lack of people DISCUSSING what the hell is going on in Ukraine, just as we had a serious lack of discussion about covid--with all the nuances and variables.
Worse: the few who are DISCUSSING these matters are suddenly "treasonous."
And while we're on the subject, Zelensky is NOT Churchill.
I don't know why we can't just be grownups and accept criticisms of Ukraine (like they're no angels) while attempting to help them. (At the very least we have to make good on our promise to stick by them if they gave up their nukes.) The way to fascism is paved with absolutism and purity tests.
"Strong ideology" prevented Russian-Bad-Man from doing what he's doing, before now (see Crimea & the Obama-Biden Administration)
Ukraine is a corrupt money-laundering machine for American politicians, filled with actual neo-Nazis (see the Azov Battalion)
Ukraine has been the United States' play-thing for years (see 2014 coup & Victoria Nuland).
We are arming neo-Nazis under the guise of "doing the right thing," after 4 years of Trump supporters being called White Supremacist Nazis (see any Trump rally)
Because Donbas wanted no part of Victoria Nuland's 2014 coup, the subsequent shelling with US weaponry has murdered 14,000 Ukrainians. (looking at you Zelensky)
Facts suck, sometimes, but that doesn't mean they're wrong and thinking that Ukraine is a corrupt joke of a country, doesn't mean one thinks Valdimir Putin is the Second Coming.
What an utterly stupid comparison. There are several examples of liberal leaders calling for defunding the police and actually doing it, as well as calling them all racists. There are ZERO examples of conservative leaders advocating for Putin or the invasion of Ukraine. Saying we are sick of never ending wars around the world while our own country clearly falls apart is the very definition of patriotism.
I guess you can take the boy out of the NYT but you can’t take the NYT out of the boy.
Maybe, but 99% of the time the "neither Right nor Left" flavor of article has a moderate Leftist position as the Left and a looneybin straw man as the Right.
I'd like some more of that "Trump-era foreign policy" thank you very much. Now we have Russia making war, China rattling the Taiwan saber, N. Korea firing missiles and nothing good in the middle East.
The Government and media are working overtime to generate public enthusiasm for war in Ukraine. We are all seen as pawns by the American and globalist elite. And Ukrainians find themselves as pawns on the most dangerous part of the global chessboard. That's why Ukrainian Lives Matter but Afghan and Uyghur Lives Don't:
No, the Russian dictator does not stand for America's values. But, neither does America these days. At least not the clowns running this popsicle stand.
It's not so much what Vladimir Putin stands for that has some people rooting for him, so much as what he stands against. I.e. the Globalist American Empire, World Economic Forum, LGBT+, Chinese Social Credit System, "you will own nothing and like it" future that the Davos boys and girls have in store for us.
I don't want Putin's Russia for my future. But I equally don't want Klaus Schwab's vision for my future. So, if Vlad can throw a monkey wrench in Klaus's plans, more power to him. Just so long as it leaves us unaligned folks free to live life as we see fit to the best of our abilities.
What? The left wanted to defund the police. You think the right thinks Putin stands for America's values? Hope I'm not following that. And yes, as this guy below says, being anti-war does NOT make you a Russian asset, in case you are implying so.
If Trump were in office, Putin would never have tried this. Trump would have kept NATO from further encroachments. NATO’s encroachments effectively goaded and provoked Putin to defend his country.
You want war:if it was on your doorstep? No. Anyone promoting war is benefitting from it. Send their families to war. Recruit the rich. See how much war happens
Seriously? Exactly what is it about a US president promoting an "America first" foreign policy, demanding that other nations contribute to NATO what they had originally promised, and pointing out that Ukraine is rife with corruption and the ruling party being prone to jailing opposing political voices that would be considered "fantasy"?
Wouldn't that be like calling out the "hysteria" of the "unvaxed" wallowing in a "fantasy" of adverse vaccine reactions?
This is Obama's work ...he is the evil one.... How do you think he can afford a mansion on Martha's Vineyard and another in Hawaii...he has been corrupted for a long time...He hid behind the color of his skin...Shame on him
Anyone that knows anything - meaning those that don’t watch the main stream news - knows this has nothing to do with the lies being spread. This Ukraine debacle has all kinds of dirty spread across it and through it at the expense of a lot of innocent people. Kind of reminds me of this pandemic I heard happened recently but I never saw it so I don’t know if it was real or not.
Wow man, really didn't expect you to become such a joiner on the Dept. of Pandemia's New Pandemic, The Putin Pandemic, but here we are. Your "The Russian dictator stands for ‘Merica’s values!" jab falls so flat, has anyone really said anything like that? The rhetoric from your side of the issue is far more similar to your joke than the straw man you're lampooning. They're sharing Zelensky versions of the 2008 Obama Hope poster, the idea that Ukraine is a sacred, innocent vessel of democracy etc. I'm not seeing any of the skeptics on give Putin that treatment. This is the conflict western leaders want, to help hasten our green future. Both Russian and Ukrainian governments suck and are riddled with corruption, and so is ours. As long as we continue to empower the most evil and murderous regime in the world (China), whose scope of evils dwarfs the ever-withering capacities of Russia, as billions are held hostage by a completely illegitimate criminal organization...I will continue to regard this so-called righteous war as a farce. But your subject "Reality has a centrist bias" has finally clued me in on where you're going wrong. If you stick to that epistemology...that the aggregate impulses of the group will ultimately lead you in the right direction...then for all of the things you have been dead right about, you will be ill-prepared for what is coming, when the lights are put out for all of the west in the name of "sustainability".
We are not following a centrist policy. We are following a stupid policy that will lead to more death and more money and power for these in charge. The best would be to push for peace. A neutral Ukraine and talks on territories. Stop the death.
Sending more arms so that young untrained Ukrainians can kill and be killed is not moral.
As George Carlin once said, “‘Bipartisan’ usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.”
What's the deception? The economy is crumbling both parties want to "spend" more debt backed US dollars and the Fed has no clue how to navigate high inflation ,soaring debt and global pressures to transform the world's reserve currency.
It's CYA time for the swamp! Let's see where this goes after we learn about what the Russian sanctions expose. There's gonna be hell to pay for the globalist elites when their corrupt affairs are exposed. The chickens are about to come home to roost...
1) Please explain how Putin's actions relative to Ukraine's desire to be part of the NATO "Military" Alliance and willingness to house ballistic weapons on its soil aimed at Russia are any different from what the US claimed about Cuba, Grenada, or Nicaragua before launching military operations against those countries.
2) Has the US been lying every time it has preached to the world that people have a natural right to political self-determination, and if not, why aren't the Russians living in Eastern Ukraine entitled to this same natural right ?
Seems to me that some Americans, actually a lot of them, can't stand the idea that Putin rightfully is using American ideals to justify his actions in Ukraine. But wasn't that the purpose of fighting the Cold War, to convince the Soviet/Russian leaders of the superiority of democracy over communism ? If anything, those Americans castigating Putin today should be congratulating him for seeing the light of goodness, while focusing their angst against their own government that has acted more like totalitarian dictators than the former totalitarian dictators !
Disappointing commentary from someone intelligent enough to know better. The javelin missiles being used to destroy russian tanks are the result of trump-era policy. The blankets being used to cover their dead are the leftovers of the Obama-Biden foreign policy. Putin funding his army with western european gas profits are the result of Biden foreign policy. Questioning whether it is in our national interest to engage Russia in a war over a corrupt country is not cheering Putin or attributing "Merica values" to him.
Alex, you keep getting less and less “hearts” in your posts. What a shame. For you Christianity is a Fantasy. You should remain in the Covid arena (without baseless criticizing ivermectin).
...while the Ministry of Truth (er, I mean New York Times) continues its shift to the radical/extremist left. FFS, how do people keep buying their blatant bullsh!t?
No... the "radicals" are correct on Ukraine i.e. Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc... Being anti-war does not make you a strong ideological fanatic.
Had Trump followed through on withdrawing from NATO, this war would not have happened, and the NYT is somehow using this war to critique his foreign policy? What "reality" is this?!
The Neo-cons and Obama Admin are largely to blame for this War:
https://spaceworms.substack.com/p/the-us-is-culpable-in-todays-ukraine?s=w
This is typical idiot comparison. Trump era foreign policy likely would have resulted in NO INVASION in the first place! I am so sick of this “conservatives are pro Putin” BS! Just because Tucker Carlson raises questions and takes the perspextive of what he thinks is best for AMERICA regarding entanglements and addresses corruption in Ukraine while not wanting other peoples kids to go over and get killed doesn’t mean he thinks that vodka chugging thug in Moscow is not a war criminal committing an illegal invasion!
I guess the NYT means that "Trump-era foreign policy" that kept us out of new wars for four years--and kept Putin from invading Ukraine.
The military industrial complex is bipartisan
Come on guys! They lied about the vaccines, but they are telling the truth now.
Another tiresome false equivalency.
"We can defund the police and nothing will happen!" Yes lots of major mainstream leftists have said this and more, such as defunding the police will improve things and "make our communities safer", etc. Some are even still saying it.
"The Russian dictator stands for ‘Merica’s values!" I have never heard anyone say anything close to this. Did I miss something?
Please go back to Covid. So much is happening right now and we need your insight on it. The vaccine side effects appear to be hitting the fan, but we need you to breakdown the numbers.
Alex, who is saying Putin stands for American values? Or, if this is a caricature of certain people on the right, who are you caricaturing? Everybody on the right I've heard seems to be bending over backward to say that Putin is a horrible dictator in the same way they bent over backward (or maybe forward) to say that the vaccine is safe and effective while fighting against mandates. (The number of disclaimers one has to put in front of one's argument tells you a lot about the state of free speech and debate in this country. It's one of the reasons I was careful to delete the shield of a disclaimer I put in front of this comment.)
Reality has a reality bias. The gutless choice is the anti-liberty side and the center just takes you to a loss of liberty slower.
Seems to me Trump-era foreign policy actually kept us out of conflicts. This is the NYT trying to down play the influence of people like Tucker Carlson as too many are starting to consider other explanations about the timing of this conflict and the ready-made narrative ("You must support Ukraine!"). I feel like we just went through a parallel experience recently.....hmmmm....can't quite put my finger on it.
You'd have to be an idiot to think defunding police is going to help the situation. Or sending five foot tall 100 pound women social workers to deal with three hundred pound men having nervous breakdowns
While the left generally supported defund the police and BLM for the past two years, not a single conservative voice I know of suggested that Putin stands for America’s values.
I'm a libertarian and don't like putin. But I like the democrats even less.
We have a serious lack of people DISCUSSING what the hell is going on in Ukraine, just as we had a serious lack of discussion about covid--with all the nuances and variables.
Worse: the few who are DISCUSSING these matters are suddenly "treasonous."
And while we're on the subject, Zelensky is NOT Churchill.
Why do I keep reading these moronic posts?
I don't know why we can't just be grownups and accept criticisms of Ukraine (like they're no angels) while attempting to help them. (At the very least we have to make good on our promise to stick by them if they gave up their nukes.) The way to fascism is paved with absolutism and purity tests.
"Strong ideology" prevented Russian-Bad-Man from doing what he's doing, before now (see Crimea & the Obama-Biden Administration)
Ukraine is a corrupt money-laundering machine for American politicians, filled with actual neo-Nazis (see the Azov Battalion)
Ukraine has been the United States' play-thing for years (see 2014 coup & Victoria Nuland).
We are arming neo-Nazis under the guise of "doing the right thing," after 4 years of Trump supporters being called White Supremacist Nazis (see any Trump rally)
Because Donbas wanted no part of Victoria Nuland's 2014 coup, the subsequent shelling with US weaponry has murdered 14,000 Ukrainians. (looking at you Zelensky)
Facts suck, sometimes, but that doesn't mean they're wrong and thinking that Ukraine is a corrupt joke of a country, doesn't mean one thinks Valdimir Putin is the Second Coming.
What an utterly stupid comparison. There are several examples of liberal leaders calling for defunding the police and actually doing it, as well as calling them all racists. There are ZERO examples of conservative leaders advocating for Putin or the invasion of Ukraine. Saying we are sick of never ending wars around the world while our own country clearly falls apart is the very definition of patriotism.
I guess you can take the boy out of the NYT but you can’t take the NYT out of the boy.
I love that title. Reality has a centrist bias. Only it’s wrong.
Reality is Godly Righteous. All Will eventually bow to this reality.
Maybe, but 99% of the time the "neither Right nor Left" flavor of article has a moderate Leftist position as the Left and a looneybin straw man as the Right.
I'd like some more of that "Trump-era foreign policy" thank you very much. Now we have Russia making war, China rattling the Taiwan saber, N. Korea firing missiles and nothing good in the middle East.
Centrists got us slavery and perpetuated abortion.
We paid in blood for first, and the death count for 2nd will be unimaginable.
Look for truth. And pray for a true Pope
You cited the NYT. So it proves the opposite.
The Government and media are working overtime to generate public enthusiasm for war in Ukraine. We are all seen as pawns by the American and globalist elite. And Ukrainians find themselves as pawns on the most dangerous part of the global chessboard. That's why Ukrainian Lives Matter but Afghan and Uyghur Lives Don't:
https://jeffcuttler.substack.com/p/ukrainian-lives-matter?s=w
No, the Russian dictator does not stand for America's values. But, neither does America these days. At least not the clowns running this popsicle stand.
It's not so much what Vladimir Putin stands for that has some people rooting for him, so much as what he stands against. I.e. the Globalist American Empire, World Economic Forum, LGBT+, Chinese Social Credit System, "you will own nothing and like it" future that the Davos boys and girls have in store for us.
I don't want Putin's Russia for my future. But I equally don't want Klaus Schwab's vision for my future. So, if Vlad can throw a monkey wrench in Klaus's plans, more power to him. Just so long as it leaves us unaligned folks free to live life as we see fit to the best of our abilities.
What? The left wanted to defund the police. You think the right thinks Putin stands for America's values? Hope I'm not following that. And yes, as this guy below says, being anti-war does NOT make you a Russian asset, in case you are implying so.
If Trump were in office, Putin would never have tried this. Trump would have kept NATO from further encroachments. NATO’s encroachments effectively goaded and provoked Putin to defend his country.
don't care about your opinion on ukraine
You want war:if it was on your doorstep? No. Anyone promoting war is benefitting from it. Send their families to war. Recruit the rich. See how much war happens
Seriously? Exactly what is it about a US president promoting an "America first" foreign policy, demanding that other nations contribute to NATO what they had originally promised, and pointing out that Ukraine is rife with corruption and the ruling party being prone to jailing opposing political voices that would be considered "fantasy"?
Wouldn't that be like calling out the "hysteria" of the "unvaxed" wallowing in a "fantasy" of adverse vaccine reactions?
This is Obama's work ...he is the evil one.... How do you think he can afford a mansion on Martha's Vineyard and another in Hawaii...he has been corrupted for a long time...He hid behind the color of his skin...Shame on him
Anyone that knows anything - meaning those that don’t watch the main stream news - knows this has nothing to do with the lies being spread. This Ukraine debacle has all kinds of dirty spread across it and through it at the expense of a lot of innocent people. Kind of reminds me of this pandemic I heard happened recently but I never saw it so I don’t know if it was real or not.
Huh? If the centrist Covid "reality" had any merit, none of us would even be here...
And the center is infallible? Why are you citing NY Times?
This is not our war.....I'm NOT sending my boys to fight for Ukraine!!!! SECURE our freaking border!!!
Give an example of anyone who said Putin stands do 'merica's values. Your claim is dripping with disdain for a fictitious underclass.
It's a fake comparison. Allegedly mainstream politicians were in on refund the police.
Focus on the real world, Berenson!
Wow man, really didn't expect you to become such a joiner on the Dept. of Pandemia's New Pandemic, The Putin Pandemic, but here we are. Your "The Russian dictator stands for ‘Merica’s values!" jab falls so flat, has anyone really said anything like that? The rhetoric from your side of the issue is far more similar to your joke than the straw man you're lampooning. They're sharing Zelensky versions of the 2008 Obama Hope poster, the idea that Ukraine is a sacred, innocent vessel of democracy etc. I'm not seeing any of the skeptics on give Putin that treatment. This is the conflict western leaders want, to help hasten our green future. Both Russian and Ukrainian governments suck and are riddled with corruption, and so is ours. As long as we continue to empower the most evil and murderous regime in the world (China), whose scope of evils dwarfs the ever-withering capacities of Russia, as billions are held hostage by a completely illegitimate criminal organization...I will continue to regard this so-called righteous war as a farce. But your subject "Reality has a centrist bias" has finally clued me in on where you're going wrong. If you stick to that epistemology...that the aggregate impulses of the group will ultimately lead you in the right direction...then for all of the things you have been dead right about, you will be ill-prepared for what is coming, when the lights are put out for all of the west in the name of "sustainability".
We are not following a centrist policy. We are following a stupid policy that will lead to more death and more money and power for these in charge. The best would be to push for peace. A neutral Ukraine and talks on territories. Stop the death.
Sending more arms so that young untrained Ukrainians can kill and be killed is not moral.
As George Carlin once said, “‘Bipartisan’ usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.”
What's the deception? The economy is crumbling both parties want to "spend" more debt backed US dollars and the Fed has no clue how to navigate high inflation ,soaring debt and global pressures to transform the world's reserve currency.
It's CYA time for the swamp! Let's see where this goes after we learn about what the Russian sanctions expose. There's gonna be hell to pay for the globalist elites when their corrupt affairs are exposed. The chickens are about to come home to roost...
Trump policies are still great ... and Ukraine still has the most white supremacy and neo-fascist government around
Funny how what you call the "center" I call the puppets of the military industrial complex.
Trump: Started no wars. Constantly sabotaged by deep state warmongers. Most peaceful president in my lifetime. Where’s his Nobel Peace Prize?
Berenson checking which way the wind is blowing again amidst his readership.
1) Please explain how Putin's actions relative to Ukraine's desire to be part of the NATO "Military" Alliance and willingness to house ballistic weapons on its soil aimed at Russia are any different from what the US claimed about Cuba, Grenada, or Nicaragua before launching military operations against those countries.
2) Has the US been lying every time it has preached to the world that people have a natural right to political self-determination, and if not, why aren't the Russians living in Eastern Ukraine entitled to this same natural right ?
Seems to me that some Americans, actually a lot of them, can't stand the idea that Putin rightfully is using American ideals to justify his actions in Ukraine. But wasn't that the purpose of fighting the Cold War, to convince the Soviet/Russian leaders of the superiority of democracy over communism ? If anything, those Americans castigating Putin today should be congratulating him for seeing the light of goodness, while focusing their angst against their own government that has acted more like totalitarian dictators than the former totalitarian dictators !
Pay-back is such a bitch...
Disappointing commentary from someone intelligent enough to know better. The javelin missiles being used to destroy russian tanks are the result of trump-era policy. The blankets being used to cover their dead are the leftovers of the Obama-Biden foreign policy. Putin funding his army with western european gas profits are the result of Biden foreign policy. Questioning whether it is in our national interest to engage Russia in a war over a corrupt country is not cheering Putin or attributing "Merica values" to him.
“We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” - Ayn Rand
Alex, you keep getting less and less “hearts” in your posts. What a shame. For you Christianity is a Fantasy. You should remain in the Covid arena (without baseless criticizing ivermectin).
While they keep us complaining no one is watching the hen house.
...while the Ministry of Truth (er, I mean New York Times) continues its shift to the radical/extremist left. FFS, how do people keep buying their blatant bullsh!t?