Last night, The Atlantic - of course it was The Atlantic - had BREAKING NEWS!
And by BREAKING NEWS I mean yet another migraine-inducing story purporting to show that Sars-Cov-2 emerged naturally, rather than leaking from a lab.
Before we get to the story, which takes about two seconds to debunk, it’s worth nothing that even Dr. Anthony S. Fauci is in the process of giving up on the natural origins theory. On CNN on Sunday, he claimed that even if Sars-COV-2 escaped from a lab after scientists found it in a cave and transported it for research, he would consider that a naturally occurring outbreak.
Assume this version of events is true. It’s not. Chinese scientists were definitely performing “gain-of-function” research on coronaviruses in Wuhan, and the odds are overwhelming that it was one of those viruses that leaked. We know this for several reasons, including that Sars-Cov-2 has certain features that largely do not exist in wild bat coronaviruses but are common in engineered coronaviruses.
Further, Fauci’s theory makes no sense because if the Chinese had found Sars-COV-2 in a wild bat and transported it, they would have had every reason to go back to the cave where they’d found it the first time and get it again, thus PROVING it was naturally occurring. They’d know exactly where to get it! They wouldn’t have to look. They could have done so immediately (or after a couple of months had passed and they’d destroyed all the evidence that they’d ever found it before).
But let’s pretend Fauci’s theory makes sense. Let’s say that researchers found Sars-COV-2 in a wild bat, and brought it to a lab, where it leaked.
How can he, or anyone, call that a “natural occurrence”? The virus was stuck in a cave in a bat, like innumerable other coronaviruses since time immemorial. Where is the evidence it ever would have infected a human, much less caused a worldwide epidemic, had virologists not given it every possible opportunity to do so, by bringing it to the middle of a 10-million-person city and then trying to grow it?
If SARS-Cov-2 leaked from a lab, that’s a lab leak. Even Tony Fauci can’t spin that reality away.
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But back to the Atlantic. Which breathlessly reported yesterday that we now have genetic evidence that raccoon dogs and the coronavirus were both at the “Huanan Seafood Market” - the live animal market in the middle of Wuhan where some early coronavirus cases were reported - in December 2019.
“The Strongest Evidence Yet That an Animal Started the Pandemic,” the Atlantic proclaimed.
Except.
Hold up.
WE ALREADY KNEW THAT RACCOON DOGS WERE KEPT AT THE HUANAN SEAFOOD MARKET. We’ve known that for years. And of course we already knew that infected people came to the market; that’s why the people who don’t want to admit that Sars-Cov-2 leaked from a lab keeps proposing it as a source.
In fact, we went through this very nonsense MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.
As The Scientist (who better to tell you about The Science?) wrote about an earlier round of nonsense in February 2022, “one of the studies shows that raccoon dogs were sold in a section of the market where coronavirus samples were detected.”
Which is more or less precisely what yesterday’s “scoop” said.
I’ll leave you with this from The New York Times.
The Times has not exactly been aggressive about covering the potential lab leak, and it followed up on the Atlantic’s piece today with one of its own. But even the Times couldn’t avoid telling the truth, four paragraphs in:
The jumbling together of genetic material from the virus and the animal does not prove that a raccoon dog itself was infected. And even if a raccoon dog had been infected, it would not be clear that the animal had spread the virus to people. Another animal could have passed the virus to people, or someone infected with the virus could have spread the virus to a raccoon dog.
Someone infected with a virus?
Gee, I wonder where they got it? Maybe the giant lab working with bat coronaviruses a couple miles away -
A combined team of 51 intel agents and 100s of virologists investigated the raccoon dogs at the wet market and have come to the conclusion that the racoon dogs are not only responsible for spreading covid to humans but also wrote the emails that appeared on Hunter Biden's laptop. By working together this group of experts has solved 2 of the greatest mysteries of the last 4 years.
The THING is all these perps have to do is shift the narrative. They know they will suffer nothing more than a verbal scolding as usual. The utter lack of REAL accountability is a disgrace beyond measure. The GOP is investigating and probing as they always do, but who here believes any REAL accountability comes from ANY of it? All we will be told is what we already know and expected to pay for all the investigations and probes. Rinse and repeat. Fauci more than likely fades into a generous "we the people" funded pension until he dies. WE get to pay the elf fraud and perhaps the most corrupt person any of us will have known in our lifetime until he dies. Justice in America. An absolute disgrace when considering what he is complicit in for past 45 years +
Not "largely do not exist"...Furin cleavage sites DO NOT EXIST in beta coronaviruses. This is the smoking gun and they know it which is why they removed the sequences from the international database.
I didn't even finish your article. Need to say I've listened to or read something from a reputable source that said there is DEFINITELY A FURIN CLEAVAGE that didn't get there naturally that makes the 'virus' highly infectious to PEOPLE - and IS NOT INFECTIOUS TO BATS. Enough already. Nothing natural about this and Fauci needs to go directly to jail without passing go or collection another $200.
Back in 2020, when this was emerging I read in the Epoch times what this plague was. Nothing has changed my mind. It's friggin engineered. I also trusted the CDC and FDA to "ok" something that wouldn't hasten our demise. I was wrong...I took 2 because I rightly predicted where we were heading, you know passports, blah, blah. Fortunately, at the moment, we (wife and me) are relatively healthy. Unfortunately, I know longer trust our government. That includes DoD which was my master since 1975. Happy to say that people like you, Kennedy, McCullough and even that turd Fauci (whatever he says is a lie or distortion) enable my reasoning and newfound learning. Keep on my young friend your words matter and as always I love this community. God bless all and Happy St Patricks Day.
We really must start a Go Fund Me account and donate the money to any member of Congress who wears a BATMAN COSTUME while questioning Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Pushing the live market or natural origins theory advances two important goals for team Fauci - it debunks the "lab-created" theory, but it also nixes any investigations into "early cases" before this live market was held. My opinion is this group doesn't want anyone poking around finding "confirmed" examples of early cases from outside of Wuhan. That would get investigators closer to the real perpetrators of this pandemic and cover-up.
This is why so many mechanisms were employed to conceal evidence of early spread.
credible source? Fauci commissioned him to write the first article insisting it was not possible that it leaked from a lab (that Fauci edited and quoted from), and this is clearly a follow-up. he is a perfect living example of cognitive bias in science.
A friend called at 6 this morning to tell me about the Atlantic article. She refuses to believe the virus came from the lab. All I could say was to review what happened during the fall of 2019: lab workers sick, new ventilation put in, date deleted, etc. Occam's Razor can be applied here.
What the Atlantic is not saying is that raccoon dogs were working at WIV as rat-catchers and were somehow being discriminated against by the white male patriarchy of the West. Or something.
You don't take a stock Mustang back to your garage and add a souped-up engine, better exhaust and turbo and then enter it into a race as a off the floor model.
We know it’s engineered, possibly spread from multiple locations and beginning as early as 2019. All of this discussion is just a maze of distraction. The real issue, Covid came timely to cheat in the elections, the vaccine is depopulating the earth while making a few extremely wealthy. Trump out, people dying, big pharma getting richer. Boom....quite the plan, quite the happy ending.
A pangalin and a racoon walk into The Atlantic...... and on their way to the seafood market pick up their friend, the bat before heading to a bar......
Am I truly the only person on earth who sees these selfish shameless soulless sadistic shitbags for the truly despicable uncaring evil they have shown to slime humanity?
Wow, people are so pathetic to continue to tolerate and condone this hate, lust for power, and pure disdain for life.
I wake up every day hoping to read Faux-i is dead, and frankly, if terminated prematurely, I would agree without any expense to testify on the behalf of the terminator that it was justifiable termination.
Sheesh, that scumbag is so hideous, and he will continue to soil our existence for years to come, and, people will still kneel and accept his putrid presence.
Have a sad useless hopeless weekend….
Faux-i will be laughing and dancing without a fucking care in the world, collecting his half million dollar a year pension you ALL are footing for that cretin!
I believe maybe raccoon dogs are the missing link. A turtle caught and ate a Covid-infected bat, and then a pangolin kissed the turtle, and a raccoon dog had a play date with the pangolin--the raccoon dog was then caught and offered for sale at the Wuhan seafood market.
I think people should listen to Dr. Li-Meng Yan, Chinese virologist that defected from China in April 2021 to alert the world. She stated that the CCP Military released the SARS-CoV-2 intentionally. She also stated it was produced in the Wuhan Bio research lab in Wuhan, China. Her story is as plausible as any other.
That racoon dog looks remarkably like Tony. Perhaps he knows something about being a parasite infested dog. (Read "Parasite Rex" to chill you to the bone.)
I would like to cancel hubby’s Atlantic subscription behind his back, but I suppose that would make my free speech commitment hypocritical, grrrr. I don’t know what is worse: it’s disinformation about Covid or about “the threat of right-wing terrorism” in our midst. Double grrr.
IMHO. Simply put. The need for Biden to sign the declassification order, this is a distraction to provide an excuse and cover for Fauci and Wuhan and CCP. I would like to be wrong. But don’t think I am.
All us normals have known what is going on, at some level or another, from almost the initiation of all this fictional virus nonsense. No one needs the corrupt censored social media to see the truth, just some healthy skepticism, objectivity independent thinking and human sense. Truth is available everywhere including right in front of your non lying eyes, and of course on hundreds of independent news sites, blogs and protected platform posts. The killing strike for this hoax is that it is supported and promulgated by that hive of people with no sense, lack of morals, and a corrupt deep obedience to the institutions perpetuating this fiction, the abnormals.
I KNOW that I read a paper from Scripps Institute from way back in 2020 that stated that lab leak was highly likely. The DNA of the Covid virus had a gene sequence that is commonly used in virus dna manipulation (gain of function research). That article disappeared quickly from circulation & I wish that I had saved it. Their NIH funding was most likely threatened so they likely retracted the article.
I always wonder about stuff like this - is the Atlantic really that stupid, or do they just assume their readership is? I can never tell, but my guess is they are completely sincere.
Yes, they have no scraped through the bottom of the barrel and now all they are getting is shit. But they are happy to fling that shit out into world with both hands yelling "come get it, while it is still hot!".
There is an aspect of this Wuhan "wet market" theory that I have never heard anyone talk about. The Wuhan wet market theory is a form of racism, basically the implication is that the Chinese eat all kinds of filthy and disgusting animals, display their bloody carcasses, in an open air market and that is how the virus was transmitted to humans. Surprising, yet not surprising that woke college professors are not calling this theory racist.
In case anyone is interested, there is 20+ hours of sworn evidence and testimony available from early 2022 regarding the whole bs “virus” and “vaccine”. Both are bioweapons.
Once in awhile we have GIANT Raccoons in South Florida, they look like a cross breed ! Maybe the dogs got the jab and that’s an external transformation, unlike humans !
What are the chances that a report on racoon dogs spreading corona virus to humans would show up just after 2 US government agencies said the lab leak was the most likely occurrence?
The Democrats are correct and are conducting a serious scientific experiment. The scientific test? Weak minded people can be convinced of just about anything. First the Pangolins did it. Now the Raccoon Dog! Next...Get ready...you did it!
Whilst we are being logical can we also ask WHY USG is working so hard - even to the extent of this ongoing nonsense - to deny a Lab leak? Isn't it unlikely, especially in the present heightened anti-China war rhetoric, that they are protecting WIV and China? Isn't more likely that they are more concerned about explanations of Lab leaks which are much closer to home?
They can't admit it was a lab leak because the next question will be was it really an accident, and the ones after that will (hopefully) be who actually leaked it and why.
My money is still on Agents of WEF Puppeteers. Same people currently running every western country.
Can you remind me which branch of the US Government the NY Times falls under?
A combined team of 51 intel agents and 100s of virologists investigated the raccoon dogs at the wet market and have come to the conclusion that the racoon dogs are not only responsible for spreading covid to humans but also wrote the emails that appeared on Hunter Biden's laptop. By working together this group of experts has solved 2 of the greatest mysteries of the last 4 years.
The THING is all these perps have to do is shift the narrative. They know they will suffer nothing more than a verbal scolding as usual. The utter lack of REAL accountability is a disgrace beyond measure. The GOP is investigating and probing as they always do, but who here believes any REAL accountability comes from ANY of it? All we will be told is what we already know and expected to pay for all the investigations and probes. Rinse and repeat. Fauci more than likely fades into a generous "we the people" funded pension until he dies. WE get to pay the elf fraud and perhaps the most corrupt person any of us will have known in our lifetime until he dies. Justice in America. An absolute disgrace when considering what he is complicit in for past 45 years +
Not "largely do not exist"...Furin cleavage sites DO NOT EXIST in beta coronaviruses. This is the smoking gun and they know it which is why they removed the sequences from the international database.
I didn't even finish your article. Need to say I've listened to or read something from a reputable source that said there is DEFINITELY A FURIN CLEAVAGE that didn't get there naturally that makes the 'virus' highly infectious to PEOPLE - and IS NOT INFECTIOUS TO BATS. Enough already. Nothing natural about this and Fauci needs to go directly to jail without passing go or collection another $200.
All I can say over and over again is, For F--k Sakes, really?
Back in 2020, when this was emerging I read in the Epoch times what this plague was. Nothing has changed my mind. It's friggin engineered. I also trusted the CDC and FDA to "ok" something that wouldn't hasten our demise. I was wrong...I took 2 because I rightly predicted where we were heading, you know passports, blah, blah. Fortunately, at the moment, we (wife and me) are relatively healthy. Unfortunately, I know longer trust our government. That includes DoD which was my master since 1975. Happy to say that people like you, Kennedy, McCullough and even that turd Fauci (whatever he says is a lie or distortion) enable my reasoning and newfound learning. Keep on my young friend your words matter and as always I love this community. God bless all and Happy St Patricks Day.
We really must start a Go Fund Me account and donate the money to any member of Congress who wears a BATMAN COSTUME while questioning Dr. Anthony Fauci.
If it were anywhere close to true, vax-happy Bill Gates would be rushing to jab the raccoon dogs, instead of chickens. Or masking cows, FFS.
They keep lying because there are no repercussions...just another attempt to convince the weak minded and there are a lot of those.
Pushing the live market or natural origins theory advances two important goals for team Fauci - it debunks the "lab-created" theory, but it also nixes any investigations into "early cases" before this live market was held. My opinion is this group doesn't want anyone poking around finding "confirmed" examples of early cases from outside of Wuhan. That would get investigators closer to the real perpetrators of this pandemic and cover-up.
This is why so many mechanisms were employed to conceal evidence of early spread.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/theory-officials-intentionally-concealed
Two thoughts, one more horrifying than the next:
Raccoon Dogs actually exist.
A huge number look at the picture and collectively say “Yum!”
why is Kristian Anderson still considered a
credible source? Fauci commissioned him to write the first article insisting it was not possible that it leaked from a lab (that Fauci edited and quoted from), and this is clearly a follow-up. he is a perfect living example of cognitive bias in science.
Alex-Glad you read The Atlantic so the rest of us don't have to, but for you it must be a noisome job.
A friend called at 6 this morning to tell me about the Atlantic article. She refuses to believe the virus came from the lab. All I could say was to review what happened during the fall of 2019: lab workers sick, new ventilation put in, date deleted, etc. Occam's Razor can be applied here.
Not only did the virus leak from the lab. The leak was intentional
What the Atlantic is not saying is that raccoon dogs were working at WIV as rat-catchers and were somehow being discriminated against by the white male patriarchy of the West. Or something.
You don't take a stock Mustang back to your garage and add a souped-up engine, better exhaust and turbo and then enter it into a race as a off the floor model.
and when you google "raccoon dog" you get all the articles saying covid LIKELY came from this animal...never on any site that still allows comments
Pfizer vaccine development began on January 10, 2020 (see last paragraph of article): https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577
Moderna vaccine development had begun by January 13, 2020: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000119312520074867/d884510dex991.htm
We know it’s engineered, possibly spread from multiple locations and beginning as early as 2019. All of this discussion is just a maze of distraction. The real issue, Covid came timely to cheat in the elections, the vaccine is depopulating the earth while making a few extremely wealthy. Trump out, people dying, big pharma getting richer. Boom....quite the plan, quite the happy ending.
If the raccoon dog fits, you must acquit.
Alex, you're taking a lot for granted when you keep saying the virus LEAKED from a lab. How do you know it wasn't released on purpose?
A pangalin and a racoon walk into The Atlantic...... and on their way to the seafood market pick up their friend, the bat before heading to a bar......
Thank you for letting me comment.
Am I truly the only person on earth who sees these selfish shameless soulless sadistic shitbags for the truly despicable uncaring evil they have shown to slime humanity?
Wow, people are so pathetic to continue to tolerate and condone this hate, lust for power, and pure disdain for life.
I wake up every day hoping to read Faux-i is dead, and frankly, if terminated prematurely, I would agree without any expense to testify on the behalf of the terminator that it was justifiable termination.
Sheesh, that scumbag is so hideous, and he will continue to soil our existence for years to come, and, people will still kneel and accept his putrid presence.
Have a sad useless hopeless weekend….
Faux-i will be laughing and dancing without a fucking care in the world, collecting his half million dollar a year pension you ALL are footing for that cretin!
I believe maybe raccoon dogs are the missing link. A turtle caught and ate a Covid-infected bat, and then a pangolin kissed the turtle, and a raccoon dog had a play date with the pangolin--the raccoon dog was then caught and offered for sale at the Wuhan seafood market.
I think people should listen to Dr. Li-Meng Yan, Chinese virologist that defected from China in April 2021 to alert the world. She stated that the CCP Military released the SARS-CoV-2 intentionally. She also stated it was produced in the Wuhan Bio research lab in Wuhan, China. Her story is as plausible as any other.
Like I said over at Eugyppius' page, NOPE not buying it. Fauci is going down as a mass murderer of humans and beagles! That is his legacy!
That racoon dog looks remarkably like Tony. Perhaps he knows something about being a parasite infested dog. (Read "Parasite Rex" to chill you to the bone.)
CTV News also started this bull shit 🤣🤣
After 3 years now going on 4 Legacy Media is dead everything falls on deaf ears.
I would like to cancel hubby’s Atlantic subscription behind his back, but I suppose that would make my free speech commitment hypocritical, grrrr. I don’t know what is worse: it’s disinformation about Covid or about “the threat of right-wing terrorism” in our midst. Double grrr.
IMHO. Simply put. The need for Biden to sign the declassification order, this is a distraction to provide an excuse and cover for Fauci and Wuhan and CCP. I would like to be wrong. But don’t think I am.
All us normals have known what is going on, at some level or another, from almost the initiation of all this fictional virus nonsense. No one needs the corrupt censored social media to see the truth, just some healthy skepticism, objectivity independent thinking and human sense. Truth is available everywhere including right in front of your non lying eyes, and of course on hundreds of independent news sites, blogs and protected platform posts. The killing strike for this hoax is that it is supported and promulgated by that hive of people with no sense, lack of morals, and a corrupt deep obedience to the institutions perpetuating this fiction, the abnormals.
I KNOW that I read a paper from Scripps Institute from way back in 2020 that stated that lab leak was highly likely. The DNA of the Covid virus had a gene sequence that is commonly used in virus dna manipulation (gain of function research). That article disappeared quickly from circulation & I wish that I had saved it. Their NIH funding was most likely threatened so they likely retracted the article.
I always wonder about stuff like this - is the Atlantic really that stupid, or do they just assume their readership is? I can never tell, but my guess is they are completely sincere.
Yes, they have no scraped through the bottom of the barrel and now all they are getting is shit. But they are happy to fling that shit out into world with both hands yelling "come get it, while it is still hot!".
There is an aspect of this Wuhan "wet market" theory that I have never heard anyone talk about. The Wuhan wet market theory is a form of racism, basically the implication is that the Chinese eat all kinds of filthy and disgusting animals, display their bloody carcasses, in an open air market and that is how the virus was transmitted to humans. Surprising, yet not surprising that woke college professors are not calling this theory racist.
In case anyone is interested, there is 20+ hours of sworn evidence and testimony available from early 2022 regarding the whole bs “virus” and “vaccine”. Both are bioweapons.
https://grand-jury.net
The Atlantic is unreadable. It is a hive of woke nonsense.
If it was a natural source, where are the stories, documentaries and honours for those that found and identified it?
Once in awhile we have GIANT Raccoons in South Florida, they look like a cross breed ! Maybe the dogs got the jab and that’s an external transformation, unlike humans !
What are the chances that a report on racoon dogs spreading corona virus to humans would show up just after 2 US government agencies said the lab leak was the most likely occurrence?
It’s clear that the genetic coding sequence looks engineered, not natural.
This is all really too annoying. Please Alex get all over this asap
All they are trying to do is put a little doubt in someone's head. It's disgusting how the media insults everyone's intelligence? SMH.
The Democrats are correct and are conducting a serious scientific experiment. The scientific test? Weak minded people can be convinced of just about anything. First the Pangolins did it. Now the Raccoon Dog! Next...Get ready...you did it!
Whilst we are being logical can we also ask WHY USG is working so hard - even to the extent of this ongoing nonsense - to deny a Lab leak? Isn't it unlikely, especially in the present heightened anti-China war rhetoric, that they are protecting WIV and China? Isn't more likely that they are more concerned about explanations of Lab leaks which are much closer to home?
Sen. Joe McCarthy was 70 years too early.
They can't admit it was a lab leak because the next question will be was it really an accident, and the ones after that will (hopefully) be who actually leaked it and why.
My money is still on Agents of WEF Puppeteers. Same people currently running every western country.