You nailed it. These people want everyone to praise them for being brave enough to be honest and "open" about what they really want. Because the goal of our society now is for each individual to do whatever they want without judgment or repercussion...that is, unless you disagree with "anything goes," then you're the enemy and must be stopped.
The family is the foundation of our society (because there will be no society without it), so here's yet another notch toward our decline.
I lived in Luxor, Egypt for three years and got out during Covid--having helped a woman escape a mob of violent men. The men there take advantage of foreign women, marry them because they are allowed to marry four women in Islam, and then fleece them for all their money. Practically all the villas you see on the west bank of Luxor are built on money from these women. The women end up with no money, abused, and stuck there. These men justify their actions by saying at least they marry the women, while people in the West have no morals, they have affairs, hide behind hypocrisy, and basically act like Alex describes here. They truly believe that all Western women are prostitutes. What they do in Luxor is truly horrific however, what's going on in the United States, etc., with a loss of morals, a loss of connection to our Judeo-Christian values is not doing us any favors. And you can't even talk about "Judeo-Christian values" now without being called a Nazi. When I wrote about Luxor, not a single Western news outlet would touch the story--they were all woke and found it soooo offensive. I was accused of being, well, a Karen (which happens to be my name, double whammy). The irony is that the biggest LIBERAL news outlet in Egypt, Egyptian Streets, published it. What I discovered while living in Luxor was truly appalling. It's a wake-up call. "Tales of Eclipse: The Lost Foreign Women of Luxor. https://khmezek.substack.com/p/tales-of-eclipse-the-lost-foreign
Sooooooo many people have lost meaning in life. We used to live for our families and our communities. Then we were convinced to live for wealth, and wealth is antithetical to a healthy spirit. We destroyed our spiritual health, and with it our mental, health, and with it our physical health, and we traded it for gluttony - in all its forms. And these people are "happy" - similar to how someone is happy as they're gorging on ice cream for the first time, and the 20th time, and by the 200th time you realize how shallow and empty and hopeless this is. Nothing wrong with liking sex, and what partners decide to do together is their business, but every search for meaning or happiness that is in service to one's self, rather than service to someone else, is, and will always be, hopeless.
So so funny. Great article and everything I ever thought about this "movement" 🤣🤣. Definitely they are not being honest like in how they present this whole deal and it basically is just a me-me-me burrito or cake and eat it to scenario. Seems like a lot of work....I don't know how anyone has the time, between my full-time job and parenting and life I am like busy. These people must have extra time! Lol 🤣🤣
It’s all part of the elitists grander dystopian plan. No religion and no kids to bind a marriage and no more morals. Why would you be surprised at the outcome ?
Something is not right with the world. This garbage feels like a symptom of deeper rot. And family destruction. Of course I have been married to the same woman for 53 years so I'm probably not a good judge of these people. We've raised our kids and are helping now with grandchildren. I feel sorry for people like the polyamorous that they may never feel the deep connection I feel with my wife.
While not new, old enough to have been on this old timer’s radar (swingers, key parties, etc., of the previous millennia/century) this is just an extension of "serial monogamy." In line with my previous response to these articles, it’s a factor of too much money, too little productive stimulation, too many options, and too few challenges; and few if any consequences. I suppose one could/should envelope all this in a breakdown of traditional morals (ooh, the dreaded "Christian Morality Cop").
Since I can’t (and honestly, would rather not) put myself in their shoes (Lordy, walking in my own shoes is challenging enough), I have to make deductions based on observations; this is a very selfish lifestyle, it feels very YouTube Shorts/TikTok centric re: experiences -- that is, sticking with something past the initial rush is discarded in favor of only experiencing the initial rush. In short: could this just be another form of addiction, always needing something new, something more. In the most well known addictions (drugs, porn, etc.) you get ramping up of dopamine with more or more frequent "drug" of choice needed to achieve the same "high." And without it, the "drug" of choice, you can’t function and might even die (or kill yourself).
Also, I’m gonna have to take Berenson’s word that these are often, mostly childless couples, this seems like another assault on society.
Perhaps this is just one more element in the "Great Filter," why advanced alien civilizations may be missing from our attempts to find them.
Oh, one more thing: not an expert but I seem to recall from my extracurricular reading of ancient history how this sounds like what happened in Ancient Rome - the descent into hedonism and its eventual collapse - of course they didn’t have the luxury of our society wide opulence and general excess of resources; and ability to regulate pregnancy/children as we can and do.
Two words, Moral Relativism. This is the undercurrent of all the problems in the US and in most parts of the world. It's OK to rape Israeli women and burn babies alive, look no further than the Pro Terrorist protests that we see. Its Ok to kill newborn babies in the name of someone's delusional "right" to do whatever they want, with praise for such actions trying to "normalize" infanticide. Everything is relative to these people as long as it doesn't conflict with how the "feel", or what they really want.
Really all comes down to free will and choice. If you think it is not normal to have urges and temptation and or curiosity you are in denial. God gave us all the option to choose how you live and act. It's not rocket science. I believe people should choose as they see fit as will I
There is nothing more beautiful than being loyal and committed to your spouse. Marriage is much work, but it’s rewarding beyond comprehension. I married my high school sweetheart at age 19 (in 1977); he was 21. We celebrate 47 years of marriage this May. When these people wake up and realize what they’ve done, or are doing, their regret will be so painful, and I pray that they wake up and repent.
This is another symptom of our decaying world. This has always been happening, but immorality is celebrated now in ways like never before.
You nailed it. These people want everyone to praise them for being brave enough to be honest and "open" about what they really want. Because the goal of our society now is for each individual to do whatever they want without judgment or repercussion...that is, unless you disagree with "anything goes," then you're the enemy and must be stopped.
The family is the foundation of our society (because there will be no society without it), so here's yet another notch toward our decline.
I lived in Luxor, Egypt for three years and got out during Covid--having helped a woman escape a mob of violent men. The men there take advantage of foreign women, marry them because they are allowed to marry four women in Islam, and then fleece them for all their money. Practically all the villas you see on the west bank of Luxor are built on money from these women. The women end up with no money, abused, and stuck there. These men justify their actions by saying at least they marry the women, while people in the West have no morals, they have affairs, hide behind hypocrisy, and basically act like Alex describes here. They truly believe that all Western women are prostitutes. What they do in Luxor is truly horrific however, what's going on in the United States, etc., with a loss of morals, a loss of connection to our Judeo-Christian values is not doing us any favors. And you can't even talk about "Judeo-Christian values" now without being called a Nazi. When I wrote about Luxor, not a single Western news outlet would touch the story--they were all woke and found it soooo offensive. I was accused of being, well, a Karen (which happens to be my name, double whammy). The irony is that the biggest LIBERAL news outlet in Egypt, Egyptian Streets, published it. What I discovered while living in Luxor was truly appalling. It's a wake-up call. "Tales of Eclipse: The Lost Foreign Women of Luxor. https://khmezek.substack.com/p/tales-of-eclipse-the-lost-foreign
“Sensual pleasures have the fleeting brilliance of a comet; a happy marriage has the tranquility of a lovely sunset.” —Ann Landers
Sooooooo many people have lost meaning in life. We used to live for our families and our communities. Then we were convinced to live for wealth, and wealth is antithetical to a healthy spirit. We destroyed our spiritual health, and with it our mental, health, and with it our physical health, and we traded it for gluttony - in all its forms. And these people are "happy" - similar to how someone is happy as they're gorging on ice cream for the first time, and the 20th time, and by the 200th time you realize how shallow and empty and hopeless this is. Nothing wrong with liking sex, and what partners decide to do together is their business, but every search for meaning or happiness that is in service to one's self, rather than service to someone else, is, and will always be, hopeless.
So so funny. Great article and everything I ever thought about this "movement" 🤣🤣. Definitely they are not being honest like in how they present this whole deal and it basically is just a me-me-me burrito or cake and eat it to scenario. Seems like a lot of work....I don't know how anyone has the time, between my full-time job and parenting and life I am like busy. These people must have extra time! Lol 🤣🤣
It’s all part of the elitists grander dystopian plan. No religion and no kids to bind a marriage and no more morals. Why would you be surprised at the outcome ?
Whenever I get depressed reading about stuff like this, I remind myself that natural selection will (hopefully) save us.
Thanks for sharing us the agony of the research you had to do. Lots of cultural rot out there.
Something is not right with the world. This garbage feels like a symptom of deeper rot. And family destruction. Of course I have been married to the same woman for 53 years so I'm probably not a good judge of these people. We've raised our kids and are helping now with grandchildren. I feel sorry for people like the polyamorous that they may never feel the deep connection I feel with my wife.
While not new, old enough to have been on this old timer’s radar (swingers, key parties, etc., of the previous millennia/century) this is just an extension of "serial monogamy." In line with my previous response to these articles, it’s a factor of too much money, too little productive stimulation, too many options, and too few challenges; and few if any consequences. I suppose one could/should envelope all this in a breakdown of traditional morals (ooh, the dreaded "Christian Morality Cop").
Since I can’t (and honestly, would rather not) put myself in their shoes (Lordy, walking in my own shoes is challenging enough), I have to make deductions based on observations; this is a very selfish lifestyle, it feels very YouTube Shorts/TikTok centric re: experiences -- that is, sticking with something past the initial rush is discarded in favor of only experiencing the initial rush. In short: could this just be another form of addiction, always needing something new, something more. In the most well known addictions (drugs, porn, etc.) you get ramping up of dopamine with more or more frequent "drug" of choice needed to achieve the same "high." And without it, the "drug" of choice, you can’t function and might even die (or kill yourself).
Also, I’m gonna have to take Berenson’s word that these are often, mostly childless couples, this seems like another assault on society.
Perhaps this is just one more element in the "Great Filter," why advanced alien civilizations may be missing from our attempts to find them.
Oh, one more thing: not an expert but I seem to recall from my extracurricular reading of ancient history how this sounds like what happened in Ancient Rome - the descent into hedonism and its eventual collapse - of course they didn’t have the luxury of our society wide opulence and general excess of resources; and ability to regulate pregnancy/children as we can and do.
Coming from 48 years of marriage, three essential ingredients:
Love
Respect
Commitment
You live to care for your spouse.
Your spouse lives to care for you.
Each relies on and completely trusts the other.
Otherwise, stop disrespecting the word marriage; you're not in one.
It's marriage Russian Roulette.
Two words, Moral Relativism. This is the undercurrent of all the problems in the US and in most parts of the world. It's OK to rape Israeli women and burn babies alive, look no further than the Pro Terrorist protests that we see. Its Ok to kill newborn babies in the name of someone's delusional "right" to do whatever they want, with praise for such actions trying to "normalize" infanticide. Everything is relative to these people as long as it doesn't conflict with how the "feel", or what they really want.
Nothing good can come of this.
Really all comes down to free will and choice. If you think it is not normal to have urges and temptation and or curiosity you are in denial. God gave us all the option to choose how you live and act. It's not rocket science. I believe people should choose as they see fit as will I
Nothing good ever comes out of me me me
There is nothing more beautiful than being loyal and committed to your spouse. Marriage is much work, but it’s rewarding beyond comprehension. I married my high school sweetheart at age 19 (in 1977); he was 21. We celebrate 47 years of marriage this May. When these people wake up and realize what they’ve done, or are doing, their regret will be so painful, and I pray that they wake up and repent.
This is another symptom of our decaying world. This has always been happening, but immorality is celebrated now in ways like never before.