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The other potential aspect of this story is it could be revealing the difference in the general health of the vaccinated and unvaccinated population. The latter would tend to score worse on many general health statistics, so it could be that they are overrepresented in the hospital due to that. The fact that they look to be "overrepresented" in both non-Covid and Covid patients equally still would point to poor efficacy of vaccine.

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Alex wrote: "The United States does not have a national immunization registry or single database for health-care records."

THANK GOD!

The government already knows more about me than it has any business knowing.

BTW, this fact alone means the "vax card" is total bullshit.

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Most of us have known this for over a year. We knew they were manipulating the hospital data somehow and this was the only logical explanation. During the peak of omicron, all of my vaccinated friends and for workers were getting Covid, yet my state continued to report that something like 75% of cases and hospitalizations were unvaxxed. It was so obvious this wasn’t true.

On Twitter last year, a nurse at a local hospital tweeted to my governors communications director about how the software is set up to default to unvaccinated unless the hospital manually changed the status. This was of course swept under the rug.

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So the authorities have gone from demanding vaccination IDs to insisting that it's impossible to verify.

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“The shots stop non-Covid illness too!” Correct! When your heart gives out and you’re dead, technically the shot does stop all future illnesses.

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Another important category is unvaccinated but had a previous infection. Without a separate category those patients belong in the vaccinated group. Naturally vaccinated!

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I am a Dupage County resident, I am over 65, and I am NOT vaccinated. I can't believe that 98% of my compatriots are. The number seems fake. I also have personal experience with Edward Elmhurst as being complete covidiots who continue to demand a negative Covid test before they will undergo any medical procedure. At this point that is like testing for the common cold. There is no longer any rational scientific basis for doing this.

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They're doing this in Washington, and the datacrime is just as bad as you say. Let's run some numbers with a quick example using a jab with literally zero efficacy.

Actual numbers:

1000 vaxxed, 10 in hospital (1 in 100)

100 unvaxxed, 1 in hospital (1 in 100)

Look what happens when you can't 'confirm' 30% of the vaxxed but don't change the denominator to account for their unconfirmed status:

1000 vaxxed, 7 confirmed in the hospital (.7 in 100)

100 unvaxxed, 4 in the hospital (4 in 100)

With that one stupid little trick, we've made the vax seem over 5x 'more effective' than it really is.

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"Public health really is magic!"

And we all learned in childhood, "magic tricks" are merely illusions--much like "public health stats" in America today. They exist only to herd people into believing bureaucratic directives. The lesson? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!

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The vaccine was an experiment not a cure (not even a vaccine). We ought to have done a better experiment.

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There are anecdotes and evidence of such events where "presumptive positive" was the diagnoses after negative test result for SARS-CoV-2. Color me not surprised that data is being manipulated elsewhere.

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You said "Edward-Elmhurst and other hospitals that classify their data this way are not deliberately doing anything wrong."

That assertion is unsupported. You don't know their reasons for not having an additional category for the unknown vax status. They may very well be doing this deliberately, or even at the behest of Fauci or some other outside individual. All you can say is that they aren't doing anything illegal. Without proof of their motivation you can't say it's not deliberate. It's a moral question whether they are doing anything wrong.

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Governments lie about statistics? No way!

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None of the data from this "pandemic" has been reliable. Before January, 2021 the criteria for a positive test was that only one of the two probes tested had to be positive in order to be deemed a positive test. After January, 2021 both probes needed to be positive in order for a positive test to be reported. Not to mention the cycle thresholds used to deem a test positive. Goal posts have continued to be moved to illicit a narrative and push these dangerous jabs. The corruption surrounding Covid and the willingness of so many to unquestioningly comply with masks, jabs, and the persecution of people questioning the narrative has been and is disheartening.

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“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”

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Jan 13, 2023·edited Jan 13, 2023

Alex, I work at the Edward Elmhurst health system. I noticed long ago this major data reporting discrepancy. I am not vaccinated and throughout the last year and a half. I’ve been curious about the numbers that the health system reports on its dashboard. I notice when I look through my patients electronic health records, their vaccination status, either indicates vaccinated, which indicates that they have had their primary series as well as all recommended boosters, or it says unknown, which categorically refers to unvaccinated or has not had all recommended dosages. Therefore, if an individual patient has had their primary series, and either one or no boosters. They are categorized together with unvaccinated patients and that is how the hospital system reports to the department of health and therefore the CDC.

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