Moderna plans to ask the Food and Drug Administration to authorize its mRNA jabs for infants as young as six months.
The company this morning released partial results from a clinical trial of its shots in 6,700 children up to six years old. The trial showed the mRNA jabs had little benefit in reducing Covid infections and caused fevers in many children, including fevers of more than 104 degrees in a handful.
Moderna claimed in a press release it believes the shots might reduce the risk of severe Covid in young children. But the trial showed nothing of the sort. No children in it had severe Covid, so the company could not evaluate whether the shots actually will have meaningful benefit against serious illness.
The shots reduced the risk of Covid from the Omicron variant in children by only about 40 percent, below the 50 percent level that regulators had generally called the minimum level for approval in 2020.
Recall that the major adult trials from Moderna and Pfizer showed a 95 percent reduction in infections against the original coronavirus variant - a finding that FAR overstated their real-world effectiveness after a few months. A similar decline from the 40 percent trial figure Moderna reported would suggest the potential for negative real-world efficacy - or increased infection risk after vaccination - in months.
The company did not report any details on side effects except for the fever data. About 15 percent of kids had fevers over 100.4 degrees, and 1 in 500 had fevers over 104 degrees, which can require hospitalization. The company did not report whether any children needed to be hospitalized as a result of fevers or other side effects.
Given the weakness of these results and the fact Covid poses almost no risk to kids who are not profoundly ill or morbidly obese, it is not entirely clear why Moderna would try to convince regulators to move ahead. Parents have already been very reluctant to have kids aged five to 12 take Pfizer’s mRNA jab, and surveys suggest even more resistance for younger kids.
But Moderna made clear it does plan to go ahead.
Perhaps Moderna believes regulators will not feel they can say no this late in the game.
The problem Moderna and others are creating is the hesitancy now of parents to get any vaccines for the children... which may not be a good thing. Trust has been obliterated.
yep. my whole family is vaxxed (two kids). I'm the most vaxxed person I know because I've traveled around the world to countries where I needed it (HCL was always in my bag). But new daughter due in a month won't be receiving ANYTHING for many years. we'll do a delayed schedule, like my other kids, but even wait longer this time, and choose the ones we believe we only need based on where we are, not the spectrum the CDC demands. Trust is completely gone.
good idea, don't trust anything getting "approved" by this criminal FDA right now. I am a healthcare worker and will use my religious exemption for even the flu shots now!
Thanks so much for your kind words. I’ve been fortunate and feel terrible for the pressure our military are going through. I hope they find a way through this, maybe a class action lawsuit. I certainly would be happy to donate to something like that!
That's exactly what we did in my family 28 years ago. I had all manner of vaccinations, being both a military brat and a military member myself, but when we started having children, we were super selective about what vaccinations we received. We had the blessing of a strong Christian pediatrician who was very well-known and well-reputed in our community who advocated that stance (he himself had eight children).
Speaking of traveling, according to the Wall Street Journal China has only suffered 5000 deaths from Covid so far(versus close to 1,000,000 in the USA). Maybe they’ve got much better vaccines or maybe….? Can anybody explain?
I don't trust any numbers coming out of a country that is committing genocide against the Uyghur Muslims (and most of the world doesn't seem to care or people don't know- I had to explain it to my leftist father who was dumbstruck about it). I have good friends who live in China, and I only hear from them when they travel outside of China and use foreign based emails or call from a foreign country. It's frightening what they do to their citizens, the fear they have of their government. Due to the pandemic I haven't heard from them in almost 2 years. I'm very worried. I hope they are okay.
I agree! They have no freedoms there.. China lies.. don’t believe anything they say…we are losing ours too slowly… freedom of speech and choices like to about the Jab….
It’s hard for me to believe the Biden administration would like that kind of news, true or false, to get to many Americans. In either case it would seem they’d be refuting it. Haven’t seen that yet.
Also, in the wake of the Wuhan lockdown, 1 million phone numbers in China ceased to be in service. Now; not all of those phones were in Wuhan, and it's important to keep in mind that there was also a large number of semi-illegal immigrants working in border cities in China, many of them having come from Vietnam, Cambodia, and other Southeast Asian countries. Many people left China and didn't return.
This is exactly what happened to me 20 yrs ago with the chicken pox vax that was mandatory for kids born after 2000. My third child fell into that category and I was concerned bc chicken pox wasn't a disease that caused much risk to healthy kids. My doctor blew me off pretty quick with: what are you worried about? There's 10 yr studies!
I replied: I expect her to live to be 100, puberty and having children all happens after age 10. I started researching, finding out it was so much about profit. Sickening. Now 20 yrs later their seeing vax wear off and chicken pox is more dangerous in adults than children. Govt/big pharma does not care about our health. Period.
For those who want an (admittedly somewhat dry) historical look at vaccines, complete with first person accounts and stunning data, pick up "Dissolving Illusions". The measles mortality chart alone is worth the price.
The pediatricians get bonus’ for every patient fully vaccinated. I’ve also heard they receive additional payments if their whole practice is fully vaccinated. Chiropractors or integrative medicine docs in your area can probably refer her to a reasonable pediatrician who isn’t all about the money.
In most part because there’s been questionable calls and additions to the schedule already (eg why more doses or dtap and pneumonia than for European kids? Transparency has never been their forte (we vaccinate on alternate schedule after we already had many severe adverse events). We have a good doctor now that’s actually helpful, but the majority before berated us and didn’t want to admit negative reactions. One told me admitting that would mean the one size dies all program isn’t perfect and it could hamper other parents from following it. Thing is all medications need to be tailored to the individual 🤷♀️. When you head to the ER with your 3 months old and have ti stay for days it’s clear your kiddo doesn’t handle the meds like most abs needs an alternate schedule.
This is what baffles me. We know medications effect people differently, be it allergic reaction or other complications. Yet, to say the same thing about a vaccine is sacrilege.
Hell, look how long it took to get it recognized that oxy was addictive and dangerous.
And Moderna is desperate. They had nothing before this, and this is all they have. Pretty odd if you ask me, but all of this nonsense over the past two years has been full blown insanity.
True, and one would be forgiven for thinking that the regulators would able to think about the longer term perception of not just these vax but all vax. Except we have ample evidence that most of the people that will approve it will in a few years find themselves in the employ of the very people they are regulating. Also, they probably bask in the comfort of knowing that the childhood vaccine schedule is mandatory and it’s existence is virtually sacrosanct.
I read somewhere (maybe in one of Alex's columns) that in order to get full legal immunity, a vaccine had to be fully approved (not under EUA) for children under 5. I remember finding this ironic, and I can't recall what the reasoning was, but if true, that would explain why the big push for vax approval for infants -- not revenue, but insulation from legal liability.
It is Robert Kennedy's discussion on the subject. They have no chance of profitability without a liability shield (no legal and financial consequences from their mass murdering products). It is monstrous!!!
That's true actually. I totally forgot about that. Once these vaccines get approval for children under 5, they're fully protected. They all shoot for that goal. Good point!
Thank you! Where the heck did I read this, and what are the details? I seem to recall that the rule has its basis in other 'mandatory' vaccines given at an early age.
You are correct. I have read (same situation as you I can’t remember where now) that their liability protection is void of fraud is proven, I can’t remember if that’s the EUA or the full childhood, but I think that is why Pfizer/FDA were pushing for slow drip of approval docs.
RFK Jr. argues the push for vaxxing kids for covid is solely for big pharma to get immunity from liability once the EUA is dropped. That would explain the strong push regardless of how ineffective or unnecessary it is for kids.
I am 52 and my mother(who was a nurse) limited our vaccinations for only things like tetanus, etc. of the early 70's - she put us near the kids with chicken pox so we would get it. We did the same for our kids. Our first grandson arrived in May '21 and my daughter didn't vaccinate him for anything and I was like "what?". She had just her finished biomed degree and laid out the case while we were simultaneously listening to Alex among others around the world show how ineffective they really are. Then the mandates came and I will not trust ALL of our institutions for a very long time.
An aside, my doctor was issuing Ivermectin if asked until Nov 2021 where his medical board started to threaten his license if prescribed for 'Covid'. Sealed my total distrust of medical anything above the ground level. Thanks again, Alex, you have earned your subscriptions here!
Dr Robert Malone said that big pharma and our government has destroyed trust in the medical community. I agree, as my hubby and I quit trusting our own docs yrs ago after experiencing the influence of pharma via doctors. I'm also a May 21 baby, almost 72 yrs ago!
The vaccine advocates will never figure that out because in order to remain a vaccine advocate and not get lumped in with the "anti-vaxxers" you are required to maintain the position that the vaccine risk itself is zero. To admit there is risk associated with the vaccines is heresy in the vaccine advocate (see fanatic) world. And since there's no risk, getting vaxxed is always and only the right choice to make for yourself and others.
There also seems to be extremely poor quality control with vaccine manufacturing as the majority of Covid vaccine injuries can be traced back to specific lots. Years ago my sister was injured by a vaccine that was in a "hot lot" from Wyeth (now Pfizer). In response, Wyeth implemented a policy to disperse their lots around the country instead of sending a single lot to only one state.
I read through this entire comment string and I think you Alex have the kernel for Pandemia Two: The Fallout. How the CDC, WHO, BIG PHARMA, AMA, and FAUCI Agencies of Health destroyed trust in medicine and government.
The impacts, the reputational costs to CDC-compliant physicians, the buckets of money wasted and the obvious collusion/corruption, the failure of complicit agencies and institutions to understand how many citizens see what is being foisted upon them. Like selling 4th boosters (Moderna), jabs for 6 month olds, and ultimately the future health of our citizenry. If as a result of this jabbing fiasco, your commenters are not accepting established, traditional vaccines for kids, in addition to choosing privatized health services for themselves, where are we going to be in five years with child health…better or worse?
Alex, do you know WHERE these clinical trials on infants and very young children are being conducted? If previous vaccine development is any indication, it's likely to be done in developing countries. In other words, the trials are NOT being conducted on white babies and toddlers in affluent, western nations.
Have a look at this page on clinicaltrials.gov. I just did a search on Covid-19 Moderna for Children, and quite a list showed up. As you can see, studies seem to be ongoing worldwide regarding many aspects of the virus.
I see a market opportunity for "vaccine consultants" for parents of young children to help them understand which ones would be best for their individual children based on things like family history, various health parameters, genetics, geographic location, etc. But I feel sure they would be arrested.
Gotta go with shj on this one. My PCP lied to me, so now I pay out of pocket for a Naturopathic MD. I am 66, on Medicare with parts B, C and D coverage, but I'll gladly pay out of pocket to get a real doctor to treat me for my day to day needs.
Saw my regular doc yesterday. Routine. Took an empty cough syrup bottle to get Rx. refill. I had just used the last of it a month ago and I first got it 2 years ago. She did not want to refill Rx. this time because, she said, it had narcotics. She has been my doc for over 20 years and knows I am not an addict. But she danced all around the issue and would not admit that her fear is really that she will be vulnerable to Big Brother for prescribing that medicine. Gutless. A month ago my spouse and I were a little sick so we drove to her office to be tested for COVID. The nurse came out to our car and stuck the big Q-tips up our nose and next day we were told we had IT. I asked if we would get the antibodies but was told just take tylenol and if we get really sick to go to hospital. I said, "Oh, so they can kill us?" I'm going to get a new doc.
When you spend $300K+ on your education you darn well don’t want to lose your license. Of course that’s what she was worried about - it’s not your best interest it’s hers.
Wow your comment makes me wonder if that is why I'm not getting my meds for anxiety refilled. It's been like pulling teeth and been taking for years, same doctor. Had to cut back drastically bc almost out.
At 70 I got lots of stories. My Kaiser stories alone would take hours. Do everything you can to keep yourself healthy so you don't have to pay money to be made worse. First do no harm? Please...
shj, it's worse than "Not given the facts"...many are outright lying to us. Many do not listen. Many are "practicing computer", not medicine, spending more time on their computers than listening to patients (the computer thing is not their fault).
Way worse. Big healthcare is about revenue generation and nothing else. When you see the "best guy" at a medical institution, its the guy that makes the most cash. Its a medical mafia. Nothing more.
Good healthcare is actually cheap - and cost effective, no rewards in the system for those people.
And every year, my PCP nurse asks the same questions regarding my family history. Like that has changed. I present a complete list of meds and they have to repeat the whole thing so they can make their little check marks. Complete waste of time.
That ain't gonna happen. It's all business. All about codes, satisfying insurance needs, following approved protocols that have nothing to do with health, writing fast prescriptions to bury symptoms and keeping you as a permanent customer of big pharma. Avoid all doctors as your best path to staying alive. It's not that trust has been lost but that your eyes have been opened.
I have to give credit to a young md who treated me with a steroid and abx at an urgent care center after I had chest congestion and nasty cough and getting no better after a week. I thought for sure they would want to test me (I would have refused) for Covid-19. It never came up. She told me to stay home, rest and go back to work when I felt better (I work in healthcare). Just thought it was interesting.
Agree, Gdog. I learned a long time ago that no one cares about my health more than I do and it’s worth searching out really good docs.
When we moved back here, the best physicians’ group in town had a statement on their website - “We follow WHO guidelines.” Good ever lovin’ grief! No way would I Ever trust that because those docs aren’t being given latitude to practice medicine the way they see fit. And that’s a lot of what’s gone on during covid. Some docs just follow but there are others who have been threatened, as we all know, with losing medical licenses if they don’t follow certain protocols. So congrats on being proactive and finding a good doc. We eventually did too.
As a libertarian minded individual, I have been telling people for years that licensing by the state, whether medical, law, etc. is eventually going to end up where one can lose their license to practice if they don’t tow the state’s line. Well, this now seems to be happening, at least the threat of.
Same boat. I've moved to a "wholistic health" chiropractor who has provided better treatment and has a better understanding of what goes on in my body, pushing me to make wholistic changes that have had more of an impact than 10 years on a pharmaceutical product. And he didn't tell me that my symptoms were just in my head! It burns me that I have to maintain "full" insurance when now my policy is really just there for catastrophic illness or accident, since I am paying OOP for the routine care.
PCPs push vaccines on the elderly. I left a PCP because every year she would tell me to get the shingles vaccine. I never had chickenpox so I didn't see the need. she said i should get it anyway. My husband had a case of shingles and I made sure I didn't touch the rash. I was fine, no shingles.
My grandma was bullied into the Shingles vax when it first came out. She had CP as a kid, and was exposed to kids and grandkids with CP over the years (natural boosters). She had never had shingles in her life.
Two weeks after taking the shingles vaccine, she contracted shingles. My pharma brainwashed family responded with "Thank goodness she had the vaccine, or it would have been so much worse!" 🙄
The first shingles vaccine was a live attenuated virus, Zostavax. It was made with aborted human fetal lung tissue culture and didn't work very well. It is similar to what all children are recommended to get. The new shingles vaccine is shingrix which works much better, is not alive and is not made with a morally repugnant process. It is what type the children should be getting if they are going to get a vaccine for chicken pox. Since they don't have it for kids we know the people making the recommendations are evil in many ways.
Years ago my PCP repeatedly pushed for me to get the Zostavax shot. I have a bit of a wonky immune system, and I finally told her that the shot wasn't happening because that was a live vaccine and was a bad idea for me. I'll never forget her startled look when I said that, as she had no idea. How on earth can an MD be more ignorant about these things than a lay person??? No, don't answer that, I think we know the answer now!
If you get a case of shingles you may wish you took the vaccine. The new vaccine, shingrix is made from hamster cells and e. coli. The former vaccine, Zostavax was made using human fetal tissue culture and that is morally repugnant.
That being said, if you get a weird feeling on one side of a part of your body, and then a rash shows up, there is a treatment that really helps, if you get it early in the course but doesn't really help much after 48 hours.
There may be more cases, not because of the shots, but because the adults are no longer "boosted" naturally by their children and grandchildren who in times past would have cases in their houses. IN a sense the shingles are caused the shots of the younger generation since there is less chickenpox in children.
I worry that this generation of chicken pox vaccine recipients will suffer greatly due to the latency of the virus combined with the inclusion of fetal DNA fragments in the varivax given to children over the past 20+ years. Chicken pox in adults is usually more severe.
I never got it either. My kids school had two school years in a row that it went through, my kids caught it but I didn't. Even my sister's kids caught it, I was exposed but never caught it. My kids pediatrician said at the time I probably developed immunity to it via exposure from my 3 siblings who got it at different times and my mother who passed it along because she had it as a child.
I'm with you. I also have comprehensive Medicare coverage and pay every penny myself for care from my ND. All things considered, I feel it's money well spent.
That's the direction I'm headed, I think. An ND that I pay for myself. Can I ask what you do about routine diagnostic tests (e.g., bloodwork, urinalysis, mammogram, Cologuard, etc.?). Does your ND order them for you?
You can get a routine screening mammogram by just calling and scheduling yourself. You should not need a referral but will probably be asked to list a physician that results can be sent to. You will separately get results yourself also.
My ND orders more comprehensive tests on me than my PCP ever did, and I feel I have a much better assessment of my health status. She can also order things like Cologuard, but for that I still visit my PCP just for the cost savings. My Medicare insurance requires that referrals come from MDs in their system, so I also see the PCP for annual referrals for things like Dermatologist and Opthamologist. When I visit the PCP (usually annually) I take along a copy of all my test results, so she feels informed and has actually been very cooperative with this arrangement, fortunately. Also in this state (WA) the NDs can write prescriptions for drugs, so that is not an issue.
Thanks. I think that's also true just south of you, in my home state of the Socialist Republic of Oregon.
Here's a blurb from my ND's website:
"Naturopathic physicians are trained primary care doctors. We have gone through 4 years of medical school followed by state licensing exams. Many of us also do residencies; I completed 2 years of residency after graduation."
Yep. I have lost all trust in any "health care" people. I'd rather take my chances with living healthy and never going to a doctor after my doctor tried to force me to put that poison into my body.
Less than 20% of doctors are AMA members anyway. Sad that so many doctors denied early, safe, and effective treatments and went along with the untested, unproven, mRNA treatments. Who can we trust?
I would think this is a very good thing. It's time parents actually questioned the insane vaccine schedule of the CDC. Most if not all shots are unnecessary, unproven and harmful.
Opened my eyes and confirmed what I always suspected but was ridiculed about. My kids will never get another vaccine of any kind. Staying away from all pharmaceuticals in general for that matter.
Funny, as easily as I caved against my intuition about all childhood vaccines initially, we've never gotten flu shots--they made no sense to me. They don't seem to work and we rarely get the "flu." If we do, it lasts a few days tops. Why do I need an injection for that.
Same for me. I got a ton of shots in the past and never questioned their safety or usefulness. But the flu shot seemed useless even when I didn't doubt the industry at all. Now I question it all. These idiots torched all institutional credibility at the altar of covid and their clotshot.
The CDC added two meningitis vaccines to the childhood schedule last year. One at 12/13 and another at 15/16. For more than 15 years there's only been a college dose on the schedule and an opt-out waiver for all college students. That's gone too.
Agree. My kids will never get another shot. Makes me sick to think of all the ones they DID get because I trusted the doctors and CDC. I always thought it was odd that they developed eczema and reflux issues when they were babies shortly after getting shots. Pretty sure I can see now what caused them!
My little terrier developed terrible rashes after every routine innoculation. I finally did some research and found a homeopathic remedy of two little pellets that I gave him as soon as we got home from the vet. Worked like a charm, he never had another problem. Gave me new respect for homeopathy.
We subscribe to the “one and done” vaccine schedule for our two youngest dogs. We worked with breeder and adopted the poodles w/o vaccines and waited until each was 16 weeks old so mother’s immunity from milk was out of their system and then WE vaxxed them for parvo and distemper 8 weeks apart from each other. We used “lyssin” as a homeopathic preventive before rabies vaccine at 6 months. We won’t vaccinate again but will get titers on the white one since he’s only a year to ensure everything ‘took’. The black poodle is all good with her protection as proven through titers.
Hopefully people wake up to the over vaccination in our pets as well.
One Vaccine can last their ENTIRE life, there’s absolutely no need to repeatedly vaccinate them.
Absolutely. This experience with the the COVID vaccines woke me up. At this point,.I trust very little coming out of Big Pharma. Look at the vaccine schedule today compared to what it was when I was a child...it's nauseating. It's all about $$.
Agree. I had a conversation years ago with a farmer. She told me: "in the old days, when a calf was born, the vet came and put one injection to it, you wouldn't see the vet again unless it got sick. Now, they come every year with new shots".
Just like Bill Gates requires you to get frequent Windows updates.....that's the model for Big Pharma. And if Big Pharma gets Big Gov (CDC) to mandate this, so much the better, but for whom?
"In 2021, vaccination of infants massively decreased in Florida due to “vaccine hesitancy”. Along with decrease in childhood vaccinations, all cause infant mortality ALSO MASSIVELY DECREASED, in a perfect lockstep!
The changes are very significant and can be considered an unintended experiment."
Parents like myself who were paying attention and hesitant BEFORE this nonsense were the ones who saw the lies early on. Do you think the lies and manipulation of data on vaccines started in 2020?
Don't trust plastic either. Plastics have certain chemical compounds (BPA, BPH, etc) that are known to disrupt the endocrine system. This is why disorders on the spectrum are much more prevalent in males.
Agree. I would be one of those parents. I am now to the point where I will not continue to vaccinate my children with ANY vaccines, not to mention my fear to actually go to the doctor for anything anymore. Trust has been compromised and I am not sure how doctors will ever get that back.
Yes. I'm at this point too. I'm at an age where I'm now eligible for the shingles shot and soon the Pneumovax. I won't be taking them. I don't trust that they actually went through any kind of safety trials.
Shingles shot is nothing more than an enhanced Chicken Pox vaccine. My uncle got the Shingles shot, pressured by his Dr because he was in his 80's. Within days developed shingles and his health went downhill from there. Became so ill he had to be moved to a nursing facility and died within a couple of years, spent the last 18 months in a wheelchair & bed. This was a man that drove a church bus several times a week, went to the gym & walked a mile every other day-still drove his own car. For a man his age he was healthy.
One of my co-workers had the new shingles shot just before Covid and his reaction was quite severe. I remember thinking at the time, "I'm not sure I'm going to get this new shot." I am sorry to hear about your uncle. There are too many stories like his to simply dismiss them all as coincidence.
All I can say is if I were having my five kids NOW, I would be questioning every single vaccine pushed by the pediatrician. I have completely lost faith in healthcare as currently practiced today. And I say that as a nurse.
I've been watching the Hulu series "Dopesick" and the whole time I'm watching, I'm thinking "just replace Purdue with Pfizer and OxyContin with Covid shots and you have the same story." Replace it with any drug, to be honest, and you have the same story.
Yeah seriously. And contrary to the conventional wisdom that pharma doesn’t “make money on pediatric vaccines” - they make lots of (liability free) profit off the vast majority of kids in the US.
I’m five months pregnant and really struggling with this. My alarm over the way Covid vaccines have been handled by our regulatory bodies led me to read more about vaccines in general and I’ve seen some alarming studies about the HepB vaccine given at birth, in particular. Published in reputable medical journals, not CrunchyMamasRUs. And now I’m wondering if I should look more into all the other vaccines. Contrast to when my daughter was born a few years ago and I just implicitly trusted the medical system.
Same--I did vaccinate my kids fully--my 9 year old is just missing his last boosters (which he will not get) and of course, we won't be getting the HPV vax or any others. I read books and talked to doctors, but there was little online that didn't dispel hesitancy as stupidity. So I gave in--it is my biggest regret ever. I do think my kids have some suspected effects --such as RSV/asthma in my younger one which came out of nowhere but fast and hard at 18 mos. We'll never know. But what I do know is that 1) pharma has been conducting experiments from day 1 through these vaccines 2) we have no idea what is really in these shots and 3) there is no realistic need for any of them---not only have all of these diseases come and GONE, but they also had a 99%+ recovery rate when they were here. Doctors will tell you that we have to keep vaccinating to keep diseases like measles and mumps away--that's garbage.
I discovered a ton of friends whose kids are secretly unvaccinated. I wish I had taken that route. Be brave, be strong, just say no. You will be pressured and criticized by the doctors and nurses--and worse, they will try to scare the living daylights out of you when you are at your most vulnerable---be prepared. And make sure you have unequivocal orders in your paperwork ahead of the birth and mention it again to your doctor when your baby is born so there is no "mistake."
HepB at birth is an American thing and utterly unnecessary if you don’t have hepB. You get tested for it in pregnancy. Most of us of childbearing age are vaccinated ourselves. I’ve always skipped this abs many parents do. They never had issues with that.
It’s nice cause I can compare my euro country to the USA and schedules are vastly different. Same with pregnancy care and birth. We always had midwives on staff, birth tubs in every hospital. Eye ointment isn’t routine unless you have a history of std. vitamin k is given orally. Babies aren’t bathed in the hospital. Everything pregnancy and birth in the USA is to max profits abs minimize liabilities. Not with you or baby in mind. (Many providers of course care for their patients but the system marginalizes them)
So true. And it isn't just the vaccines. We moved several times back and forth between Europe (Germany) and the US and our children were born within just a few years in either side of the Atlantic. It is actually rather funny to compare the recommendations and procedures doctors in the two countries insisted upon: There were tests that were standard in Germany no one had ever heard about in the US and vice versa, and even the basics such as advice how and when to start solids foods were different. Considering that both countries claim to subscribe to "evidence-based medicine" and there are few significant differences between these two countries as far as standard of living is concerned, seeing these differences first hand does not really inspire trust in our modern medical system.
All my kids nursed past their second birthday. The immunity there is unparalleled and I recommend you do that. One son of mine had perfect skin until after his first shots and then he got terrible eczema that he still has over 30 years later. I am not sure that was the cause but am very suspicious.
Yes! I forgot to mention that. I breastfed both of my kids exclusively (no formula ever) but probably not long enough (14 months). I am sure that helped.
It helps in ways known and yet to be discovered. Breast feeding includes unparalleled total nutrition, immunity, maturational effects, comfort, learning and more.
I trusted them with my children, to my regret - but I was lucky. My kids problems were small by comparison to others. Mine were worse, but still I was compliant until I dug in.
Every one of 39 childhood vaccines tested independently a few years ago were contaminated with a variety of animal viruses, chemicals, and metallic nanoparticle of unknown origin. Every one! There are reports of 'bad batches' every so often that killed and maimed. Pharma has no liability and simply does its best to spread the batches around so the evidence of harm isn't so obvious in one community. Don't even have to debate the 'science' of vaccines when the quality is so bad.
Look at risk. What's the risk of a new born and HepB? Great books to read, The Moth in the Iron Lung and How to End the Autism Epidemic. Also, medical journals are great but the last year has really shown how compromised those can be as well ie mask studies from before 2020 being "updated".
Make sure you talk to the hospital & fill out the necessary forms and have them on you at delivery because hospitals want that money for giving so many newborn shots and when the child is out of your sight, they will inject. There was a recent article about this. Hospital will fight you on it but you have to know your rights. If feasible, have an attorney you can call of needed but make you decision known.
Parents outraged after newborn son vaccinated against their wishes
Yes, and you never know what laws or "policies" are on the books creating loopholes for the medical profession to do whatever they please. Be an annoying fly in their ear. Make sure you trust your OB/Gyn implicitly. Consider homebirth? Learn abut everything they do to your baby once it's born--no one ever talks about the eye ointments, the Vit. K shots etc.--it's just DONE.
This was stated a long time ago. The only reason they give newborns HepB is because they cannot get enough adults to take it. Newborns have ZERO risk of HepB.
CDC’s Recommendation for Hepatitis B Vaccination in Infants. Are There More Risks Than Benefits? 3 Part series.
May not be a good thing? Skepticism is almost always a good thing in my experience.
Take a look at what has happened to the childhood vax schedule over time at this link below, the increase is shocking. There is nothing new under the sun, Pharma has been playing this game for decades.
So after all these additional shots, are kids actually healthier today? Hopefully parents are finally waking up. Pharma does not care about your kids bests interests.
Awakening is one thing. Holding the known perps to real accountability is another...WE know who they are too Great to be awake and see what is going on, but until REAL accountability is enforced none of this ends regardless of how awake one is.
It's not just a lack of trust when it comes to vaccines. I have avoided the pediatrician altogether for the last year. My oldest is 6 months overdue for a well child visit and I keep avoiding the docs calls. My youngest had a birthday last month and I'm not scheduling her either. They have sent me several emails about their Covid vax clinics. Last February when I went in for my youngest's well child visit, I noticed the Covid jab was already on her vax schedule. She was just turning 5. It wasn't even approved for her yet. That told me all I needed to know. So this year, we just haven't gone. And probably won't.
Good for you. Pre Covid I started seeing a push for pediatric flu shots and I thought “ are the f@&$ing kidding?” Kids need to build their immune system. Then someone in the healthcare system said the flu shots are often a fail for older folks so they needed a new stable source so kids
Paediatricians are the most indoctrinated when it comes to vaccines. Wise to stay clear of them. They just do as they're told and then are aggressive salespeople. Worse than ACME knives and vacuum salespeople.
Pediatricians need the money. I was told they are at the lowest end of the pay scale in terms of specialties. Vaccines are profitable for their practice. Insurance companies & the states incentivize giving vaccines. Here's a old booklet from BC/BS that gives how much Dr make for giving shots. This booklet is old so I'm sure the profit margin has gone up. BC/BS still puts this booklet online, they just removed any mention of vaccines. Look at page 15. If a Dr maintained a 63% vaccine level, to each child that get the full, they receive $400 per child. The higher the percentage they receive more. Dr have been know to kick kids out of their practice if the parent refuse shots. Kids not getting shots lowers their percentage. That messes with their money.
Maybe this is how vaccines have been approved all along, which freaks me out! I thought there was much more rigorous testing and proof of efficacy and safety.
Very painful. I think I can speak for every parent...it is one thing to do something to our bodies of our own choice, but to trust and then have it done to your children...this is terrible.
Check out the new film Vaxxed - you would be shocked to find out many of the shady things around these vaccines have been done similarly for all other vaccines. You can watch it here on episode 259 of the Highwire: The Movement that Inspired a Movement
One of the most shocking and disturbing things I’ve read about is what happened to Maddie DeGaray, the twelve year old who participated in the Pfizer trial and ended up in a wheelchair on a feeding tube shortly after her second dose. Perfectly healthy before. Pfizer reported her injury as “functional abdominal pain” and the FDA wouldn’t give her mom - who was so pro-vax she enrolled her three children in a vaccine trial - the time of day. Like… WTF was the point of having the trial??! If you’re just going to ignore any negative safety data. Is this how they conduct safety trials normally and we just don’t find out about it. They only network that covered this story was Fox, a tiny bit. It’s mind-blowing.
It is. What seems different now than ever before, is that all of these horrifying things are happening out in the open, through federal agencies, and the thing that is preventing most people from awareness is a trillion dollar media campaign/censorship. It's very effective. They're all in now--there's no going back, so I would expect things to get way worse from here.
The WHO was discussing the idea of annual booster shots of a 3 in 1 nature. So flu, covid mRNA and some other standard one in a single shot. So soon the flu shot might have mRNA in it. So it seems they've completely given up any care for creating hesitancy
flu vaxx last year was already mRNA. the thing about mRNA is that it might create problems into your body that will not be necessary connected to the vaxx.
i am pretty sure it was last year, was told by people getting vaxxed. next year bourla, CEO of pfizer already said it will be one in all mRNA vaxx for flu, covid and whatever ... amount of bs they sell us. you could search it, but thats the plan for next year.
It's probably a good thing to be hesitant about a medicine that the company has no liability for. They've never cared to do the things vaccine hesitant people have been asking for, more studies, increased liability, acknowledgment of side effects, informed consent, etc. And that has always disturbed me.
I think the medical establishment will be so discredited that it will be many decades before trust is re-established, if it is even possible to do so at all.
If my understanding is correct, Moderna must get the vaccine on the children's vaccine schedule, so that Moderna can sell an FDA-approved version in the US free from liability for all ages.
“They are never going to market a vaccine, allow people access to a vaccine, an approved vaccine without getting liability protection. Now the emergency use authorization vaccines have liability protection under the PREP Act and under the CARES Act.
So as long as you take an emergency use vaccine, you can’t sue them. Once they get approved, now you can sue them, unless they can get it recommended for children. Because all vaccines that are recommended, officially recommended for children get liability protection, even if an adult gets that vaccine.
That’s why they are going after the kids. They know this is going to kill and injure a huge number of children, but they need to do it for the liability protection.”
1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, PL 99-660, gave manufacturers immunity for liability for injuries and deaths caused by vaccines on childhood immunization schedule.
2005 PREP Act, Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act, gave manufacturers immunity from liability for injuries and deaths caused by vaccines under Emergency Use Authorization.
2020 CARES Act, expanded PREP Act provisions, by expanding the number of people allowed to administer injections without facing liability for injuries and deaths caused by vaccines under EUA, except for ‘willful misconduct.’
not if they obtained the authorization by fraud. if they knew smt and did not disclose it, they do not have the legal shield. thats the reason moderna and pfizer, and FDA are so hesitant in disclosing their trial documents.
That is it!!! Everything on the SHOT SCHEDULE. Then we can go back to hating those parents who are “anti vax”. Remember Before Covid we shamed parents for not vaxing. THEY KNEW!!!
The problem Moderna and others are creating is the hesitancy now of parents to get any vaccines for the children... which may not be a good thing. Trust has been obliterated.
Yes, and I have wondered when vaccine advocates would figure this out - but for the most part they have not.
yep. my whole family is vaxxed (two kids). I'm the most vaxxed person I know because I've traveled around the world to countries where I needed it (HCL was always in my bag). But new daughter due in a month won't be receiving ANYTHING for many years. we'll do a delayed schedule, like my other kids, but even wait longer this time, and choose the ones we believe we only need based on where we are, not the spectrum the CDC demands. Trust is completely gone.
good idea, don't trust anything getting "approved" by this criminal FDA right now. I am a healthcare worker and will use my religious exemption for even the flu shots now!
Thanks so much for your kind words. I’ve been fortunate and feel terrible for the pressure our military are going through. I hope they find a way through this, maybe a class action lawsuit. I certainly would be happy to donate to something like that!
It has been proposed to utilize the Mnra in the annual flu shots. Must object. Say no. Pray.
Yes, I read the same. That’s why no more flu shots for me and my family!
That's exactly what we did in my family 28 years ago. I had all manner of vaccinations, being both a military brat and a military member myself, but when we started having children, we were super selective about what vaccinations we received. We had the blessing of a strong Christian pediatrician who was very well-known and well-reputed in our community who advocated that stance (he himself had eight children).
Speaking of traveling, according to the Wall Street Journal China has only suffered 5000 deaths from Covid so far(versus close to 1,000,000 in the USA). Maybe they’ve got much better vaccines or maybe….? Can anybody explain?
I don't trust any numbers coming out of a country that is committing genocide against the Uyghur Muslims (and most of the world doesn't seem to care or people don't know- I had to explain it to my leftist father who was dumbstruck about it). I have good friends who live in China, and I only hear from them when they travel outside of China and use foreign based emails or call from a foreign country. It's frightening what they do to their citizens, the fear they have of their government. Due to the pandemic I haven't heard from them in almost 2 years. I'm very worried. I hope they are okay.
I agree! They have no freedoms there.. China lies.. don’t believe anything they say…we are losing ours too slowly… freedom of speech and choices like to about the Jab….
You could have just stopped at "I don't trust any numbers coming out of a country"
Or maybe WE are being lied to???
Count on it.
It’s hard for me to believe the Biden administration would like that kind of news, true or false, to get to many Americans. In either case it would seem they’d be refuting it. Haven’t seen that yet.
Maybe they didn’t hyperinflate their death count...
That is certainly one possibility.
They sent upwards of 40,000 bodies to be cremated in Wuhan after that first lockdown. (this contributed to the panic around COVID at the beginning.)
So--no--you can't trust their numbers.
They're lying.
Maybe they just don't want to tell the truth. Remember where this all started....
Also, in the wake of the Wuhan lockdown, 1 million phone numbers in China ceased to be in service. Now; not all of those phones were in Wuhan, and it's important to keep in mind that there was also a large number of semi-illegal immigrants working in border cities in China, many of them having come from Vietnam, Cambodia, and other Southeast Asian countries. Many people left China and didn't return.
Secrecy.
Not that you will need it, in v Ac are healthier. Just in case, most DRs don’t know the practical ways to treat childhood diseases. The Unvaccinated Child: A Treatment Guide for Parents and Caregivers https://www.amazon.com/dp/0999516523/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_WBSiBb4YY31D5
This is exactly what happened to me 20 yrs ago with the chicken pox vax that was mandatory for kids born after 2000. My third child fell into that category and I was concerned bc chicken pox wasn't a disease that caused much risk to healthy kids. My doctor blew me off pretty quick with: what are you worried about? There's 10 yr studies!
I replied: I expect her to live to be 100, puberty and having children all happens after age 10. I started researching, finding out it was so much about profit. Sickening. Now 20 yrs later their seeing vax wear off and chicken pox is more dangerous in adults than children. Govt/big pharma does not care about our health. Period.
It hasn't completely gone though if you choose to get them eventually.
Doctors typically refuse to diagnose/test for the condition if the patient is vaccinated so the diseases have been renamed not reduced.
None of them work.
Research the following:
Total liver cancer rates since hepatitis b vaccine.
Total congenital defect rates since rubella vaccine.
Total sterility rates since mumps vaccine.
Total invasive disease rates since the various meningitis vaccines.
Prepare to be shocked.
For those who want an (admittedly somewhat dry) historical look at vaccines, complete with first person accounts and stunning data, pick up "Dissolving Illusions". The measles mortality chart alone is worth the price.
The pediatricians get bonus’ for every patient fully vaccinated. I’ve also heard they receive additional payments if their whole practice is fully vaccinated. Chiropractors or integrative medicine docs in your area can probably refer her to a reasonable pediatrician who isn’t all about the money.
In most part because there’s been questionable calls and additions to the schedule already (eg why more doses or dtap and pneumonia than for European kids? Transparency has never been their forte (we vaccinate on alternate schedule after we already had many severe adverse events). We have a good doctor now that’s actually helpful, but the majority before berated us and didn’t want to admit negative reactions. One told me admitting that would mean the one size dies all program isn’t perfect and it could hamper other parents from following it. Thing is all medications need to be tailored to the individual 🤷♀️. When you head to the ER with your 3 months old and have ti stay for days it’s clear your kiddo doesn’t handle the meds like most abs needs an alternate schedule.
This is what baffles me. We know medications effect people differently, be it allergic reaction or other complications. Yet, to say the same thing about a vaccine is sacrilege.
Hell, look how long it took to get it recognized that oxy was addictive and dangerous.
Now 100,000 a year are dying because of that mistake...trusting big pharma.
Pure guess, but after a career in business, they are focused on this quarter/year revenue. It is rare businesses think much further out.
And Moderna is desperate. They had nothing before this, and this is all they have. Pretty odd if you ask me, but all of this nonsense over the past two years has been full blown insanity.
True, and one would be forgiven for thinking that the regulators would able to think about the longer term perception of not just these vax but all vax. Except we have ample evidence that most of the people that will approve it will in a few years find themselves in the employ of the very people they are regulating. Also, they probably bask in the comfort of knowing that the childhood vaccine schedule is mandatory and it’s existence is virtually sacrosanct.
To prove your point: https://thevaccinereaction.org/2021/06/former-fda-chief-stephen-hahn-joins-venture-capital-firm-behind-moderna/
I read somewhere (maybe in one of Alex's columns) that in order to get full legal immunity, a vaccine had to be fully approved (not under EUA) for children under 5. I remember finding this ironic, and I can't recall what the reasoning was, but if true, that would explain why the big push for vax approval for infants -- not revenue, but insulation from legal liability.
It is Robert Kennedy's discussion on the subject. They have no chance of profitability without a liability shield (no legal and financial consequences from their mass murdering products). It is monstrous!!!
Ian in vancouver
Yup!
That's true actually. I totally forgot about that. Once these vaccines get approval for children under 5, they're fully protected. They all shoot for that goal. Good point!
Thank you! Where the heck did I read this, and what are the details? I seem to recall that the rule has its basis in other 'mandatory' vaccines given at an early age.
You are correct. I have read (same situation as you I can’t remember where now) that their liability protection is void of fraud is proven, I can’t remember if that’s the EUA or the full childhood, but I think that is why Pfizer/FDA were pushing for slow drip of approval docs.
Yes; that’s the reason.
Vax Mandates Are Not Over Yet....This is a push for the Childhood Vaccine Schedule.
RFK Jr. argues the push for vaxxing kids for covid is solely for big pharma to get immunity from liability once the EUA is dropped. That would explain the strong push regardless of how ineffective or unnecessary it is for kids.
"You're a far-right, extremist, Putin-science denier."
"unacceptable fringe minority" is my preferred pronoun
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Yes exactly. I’m confused why Berenson doesn’t address this point? Perhaps he has another take on this??
I don’t think he has another think. I read his book “Pandemia.” His focus was more on media coverage and censorship, not science.
Yes. That’s the reason.
I am 52 and my mother(who was a nurse) limited our vaccinations for only things like tetanus, etc. of the early 70's - she put us near the kids with chicken pox so we would get it. We did the same for our kids. Our first grandson arrived in May '21 and my daughter didn't vaccinate him for anything and I was like "what?". She had just her finished biomed degree and laid out the case while we were simultaneously listening to Alex among others around the world show how ineffective they really are. Then the mandates came and I will not trust ALL of our institutions for a very long time.
An aside, my doctor was issuing Ivermectin if asked until Nov 2021 where his medical board started to threaten his license if prescribed for 'Covid'. Sealed my total distrust of medical anything above the ground level. Thanks again, Alex, you have earned your subscriptions here!
Dr Robert Malone said that big pharma and our government has destroyed trust in the medical community. I agree, as my hubby and I quit trusting our own docs yrs ago after experiencing the influence of pharma via doctors. I'm also a May 21 baby, almost 72 yrs ago!
Well HAPPY BIRTHDAY as of 2 days ago!
it will be interesting to see if autism and other chronic conditions go down as a result
yep. It needs confirmation, but Substacker Igor Chudov is noticing a decrease in infant mortality which may be due to vaccine hesitancy: https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/florida-vaccine-hesitancy-reduced?s=r
Sure will..
The vaccine advocates will never figure that out because in order to remain a vaccine advocate and not get lumped in with the "anti-vaxxers" you are required to maintain the position that the vaccine risk itself is zero. To admit there is risk associated with the vaccines is heresy in the vaccine advocate (see fanatic) world. And since there's no risk, getting vaxxed is always and only the right choice to make for yourself and others.
There also seems to be extremely poor quality control with vaccine manufacturing as the majority of Covid vaccine injuries can be traced back to specific lots. Years ago my sister was injured by a vaccine that was in a "hot lot" from Wyeth (now Pfizer). In response, Wyeth implemented a policy to disperse their lots around the country instead of sending a single lot to only one state.
EXACTLY!
I read through this entire comment string and I think you Alex have the kernel for Pandemia Two: The Fallout. How the CDC, WHO, BIG PHARMA, AMA, and FAUCI Agencies of Health destroyed trust in medicine and government.
The impacts, the reputational costs to CDC-compliant physicians, the buckets of money wasted and the obvious collusion/corruption, the failure of complicit agencies and institutions to understand how many citizens see what is being foisted upon them. Like selling 4th boosters (Moderna), jabs for 6 month olds, and ultimately the future health of our citizenry. If as a result of this jabbing fiasco, your commenters are not accepting established, traditional vaccines for kids, in addition to choosing privatized health services for themselves, where are we going to be in five years with child health…better or worse?
i'm guessing better
I'd say those vac advocates must go along with the government agenda. Since all this started, I often think of that movie, The Constant Gardener.
Check out Bourne Legacy too. Haunting. Rachel Weiss “I was there for the SCIENCE!!!!” 🤦♀️
Are you sure you didn't mean Chauncey Gardiner from "Being There"?
;-)
I like to watch...
Even more disturbing... what could possibly deter from responding... This underbelly is so dark!
Alex, do you know WHERE these clinical trials on infants and very young children are being conducted? If previous vaccine development is any indication, it's likely to be done in developing countries. In other words, the trials are NOT being conducted on white babies and toddlers in affluent, western nations.
Have a look at this page on clinicaltrials.gov. I just did a search on Covid-19 Moderna for Children, and quite a list showed up. As you can see, studies seem to be ongoing worldwide regarding many aspects of the virus.
My brother and sister in law took part in this Moderna trial with their barely 1 year old. 🤮 In Florida.
Guess who still got Omicron in January?
I personally know of parents (mostly doctors) that offering up their children for trials. It breaks my heart!
I see a market opportunity for "vaccine consultants" for parents of young children to help them understand which ones would be best for their individual children based on things like family history, various health parameters, genetics, geographic location, etc. But I feel sure they would be arrested.
Trust in vaccines gone? This has totally destroyed the trust in all of our healthcare institutions. Thanks to the CDC, FDA and the NIH.
Gotta go with shj on this one. My PCP lied to me, so now I pay out of pocket for a Naturopathic MD. I am 66, on Medicare with parts B, C and D coverage, but I'll gladly pay out of pocket to get a real doctor to treat me for my day to day needs.
I have seen so many patients treated poorly. Not given the facts. The compassion and caring needs to come back in medicine.
Saw my regular doc yesterday. Routine. Took an empty cough syrup bottle to get Rx. refill. I had just used the last of it a month ago and I first got it 2 years ago. She did not want to refill Rx. this time because, she said, it had narcotics. She has been my doc for over 20 years and knows I am not an addict. But she danced all around the issue and would not admit that her fear is really that she will be vulnerable to Big Brother for prescribing that medicine. Gutless. A month ago my spouse and I were a little sick so we drove to her office to be tested for COVID. The nurse came out to our car and stuck the big Q-tips up our nose and next day we were told we had IT. I asked if we would get the antibodies but was told just take tylenol and if we get really sick to go to hospital. I said, "Oh, so they can kill us?" I'm going to get a new doc.
When you spend $300K+ on your education you darn well don’t want to lose your license. Of course that’s what she was worried about - it’s not your best interest it’s hers.
Wow your comment makes me wonder if that is why I'm not getting my meds for anxiety refilled. It's been like pulling teeth and been taking for years, same doctor. Had to cut back drastically bc almost out.
At 70 I got lots of stories. My Kaiser stories alone would take hours. Do everything you can to keep yourself healthy so you don't have to pay money to be made worse. First do no harm? Please...
Agree about Kaiser. They are not life giving.
shj, it's worse than "Not given the facts"...many are outright lying to us. Many do not listen. Many are "practicing computer", not medicine, spending more time on their computers than listening to patients (the computer thing is not their fault).
Way worse. Big healthcare is about revenue generation and nothing else. When you see the "best guy" at a medical institution, its the guy that makes the most cash. Its a medical mafia. Nothing more.
Good healthcare is actually cheap - and cost effective, no rewards in the system for those people.
And every year, my PCP nurse asks the same questions regarding my family history. Like that has changed. I present a complete list of meds and they have to repeat the whole thing so they can make their little check marks. Complete waste of time.
How funny; they used to pull that crap on me as well. More than a little annoying.
Thanks for sending me down history lane:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson_(skier)
That ain't gonna happen. It's all business. All about codes, satisfying insurance needs, following approved protocols that have nothing to do with health, writing fast prescriptions to bury symptoms and keeping you as a permanent customer of big pharma. Avoid all doctors as your best path to staying alive. It's not that trust has been lost but that your eyes have been opened.
🤯 “Bury symptoms” & “keeping you as a permanent customer”
so true
I heard that the base for our pharmaceutical drugs is petroleum. Burying the symptoms, while your health at the cellular level continues to decline
🤗
I have to give credit to a young md who treated me with a steroid and abx at an urgent care center after I had chest congestion and nasty cough and getting no better after a week. I thought for sure they would want to test me (I would have refused) for Covid-19. It never came up. She told me to stay home, rest and go back to work when I felt better (I work in healthcare). Just thought it was interesting.
Steroids + abx saved my life. Remdesivir protocol and I’d be dead.
Glad to hear you are ok
Agree, Gdog. I learned a long time ago that no one cares about my health more than I do and it’s worth searching out really good docs.
When we moved back here, the best physicians’ group in town had a statement on their website - “We follow WHO guidelines.” Good ever lovin’ grief! No way would I Ever trust that because those docs aren’t being given latitude to practice medicine the way they see fit. And that’s a lot of what’s gone on during covid. Some docs just follow but there are others who have been threatened, as we all know, with losing medical licenses if they don’t follow certain protocols. So congrats on being proactive and finding a good doc. We eventually did too.
As a libertarian minded individual, I have been telling people for years that licensing by the state, whether medical, law, etc. is eventually going to end up where one can lose their license to practice if they don’t tow the state’s line. Well, this now seems to be happening, at least the threat of.
Certainly been happening in CA with the laws re: childrens vax mandates for public school
Same boat. I've moved to a "wholistic health" chiropractor who has provided better treatment and has a better understanding of what goes on in my body, pushing me to make wholistic changes that have had more of an impact than 10 years on a pharmaceutical product. And he didn't tell me that my symptoms were just in my head! It burns me that I have to maintain "full" insurance when now my policy is really just there for catastrophic illness or accident, since I am paying OOP for the routine care.
I watched as things changed in our former doctor's office. Had already seen pharma being pushed more & more. My husband and I stood up against that.
PCPs push vaccines on the elderly. I left a PCP because every year she would tell me to get the shingles vaccine. I never had chickenpox so I didn't see the need. she said i should get it anyway. My husband had a case of shingles and I made sure I didn't touch the rash. I was fine, no shingles.
My grandma was bullied into the Shingles vax when it first came out. She had CP as a kid, and was exposed to kids and grandkids with CP over the years (natural boosters). She had never had shingles in her life.
Two weeks after taking the shingles vaccine, she contracted shingles. My pharma brainwashed family responded with "Thank goodness she had the vaccine, or it would have been so much worse!" 🙄
The first shingles vaccine was a live attenuated virus, Zostavax. It was made with aborted human fetal lung tissue culture and didn't work very well. It is similar to what all children are recommended to get. The new shingles vaccine is shingrix which works much better, is not alive and is not made with a morally repugnant process. It is what type the children should be getting if they are going to get a vaccine for chicken pox. Since they don't have it for kids we know the people making the recommendations are evil in many ways.
Years ago my PCP repeatedly pushed for me to get the Zostavax shot. I have a bit of a wonky immune system, and I finally told her that the shot wasn't happening because that was a live vaccine and was a bad idea for me. I'll never forget her startled look when I said that, as she had no idea. How on earth can an MD be more ignorant about these things than a lay person??? No, don't answer that, I think we know the answer now!
I don't understand that thinking at all. How do they know it would have been worse?
If you get a case of shingles you may wish you took the vaccine. The new vaccine, shingrix is made from hamster cells and e. coli. The former vaccine, Zostavax was made using human fetal tissue culture and that is morally repugnant.
That being said, if you get a weird feeling on one side of a part of your body, and then a rash shows up, there is a treatment that really helps, if you get it early in the course but doesn't really help much after 48 hours.
I finally heard a Dr say there are more cases of shingles now due to the shots which lowered people’s immune systems- happened to my mom
My 37 year old friend got it
There may be more cases, not because of the shots, but because the adults are no longer "boosted" naturally by their children and grandchildren who in times past would have cases in their houses. IN a sense the shingles are caused the shots of the younger generation since there is less chickenpox in children.
I worry that this generation of chicken pox vaccine recipients will suffer greatly due to the latency of the virus combined with the inclusion of fetal DNA fragments in the varivax given to children over the past 20+ years. Chicken pox in adults is usually more severe.
I don't have the virus in my system. You would have to have had chickenpox to get shingles.
I never got it either. My kids school had two school years in a row that it went through, my kids caught it but I didn't. Even my sister's kids caught it, I was exposed but never caught it. My kids pediatrician said at the time I probably developed immunity to it via exposure from my 3 siblings who got it at different times and my mother who passed it along because she had it as a child.
Wow, amazing
I'm with you. I also have comprehensive Medicare coverage and pay every penny myself for care from my ND. All things considered, I feel it's money well spent.
That's the direction I'm headed, I think. An ND that I pay for myself. Can I ask what you do about routine diagnostic tests (e.g., bloodwork, urinalysis, mammogram, Cologuard, etc.?). Does your ND order them for you?
You can get a routine screening mammogram by just calling and scheduling yourself. You should not need a referral but will probably be asked to list a physician that results can be sent to. You will separately get results yourself also.
Correct.
My ND orders more comprehensive tests on me than my PCP ever did, and I feel I have a much better assessment of my health status. She can also order things like Cologuard, but for that I still visit my PCP just for the cost savings. My Medicare insurance requires that referrals come from MDs in their system, so I also see the PCP for annual referrals for things like Dermatologist and Opthamologist. When I visit the PCP (usually annually) I take along a copy of all my test results, so she feels informed and has actually been very cooperative with this arrangement, fortunately. Also in this state (WA) the NDs can write prescriptions for drugs, so that is not an issue.
Great information, thank you!
we have (good) insurance but I paid out of pocket to have a homebirth with a direct entry midwife
I need to find me one of those doctors!
Good luck. Try to make sure they're actual MDs, so they can prescribe meds like ivermectin. I keep a stash of ivermectin on hand, just in case.
Licensing differs by state, but here in WA an ND can write prescriptions, and in fact my ND has been writing them for ivermectin for the past 2 years.
Hey Paula R.
Thanks. I think that's also true just south of you, in my home state of the Socialist Republic of Oregon.
Here's a blurb from my ND's website:
"Naturopathic physicians are trained primary care doctors. We have gone through 4 years of medical school followed by state licensing exams. Many of us also do residencies; I completed 2 years of residency after graduation."
Also, for further clarity (or confusion?):
https://www.nawellness.com/what-is-the-difference-between-an-nd-and-an-md-2/
The thing is not ONE of those people in those corrupt institutions has been held to account...not ONE!
"Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'
You gotta have somethin' if you wanna".... me to be JABBED !
https://youtu.be/IX2bE-OBtwk
Yep. I have lost all trust in any "health care" people. I'd rather take my chances with living healthy and never going to a doctor after my doctor tried to force me to put that poison into my body.
Same. Add AMA and ACOG and co.
Less than 20% of doctors are AMA members anyway. Sad that so many doctors denied early, safe, and effective treatments and went along with the untested, unproven, mRNA treatments. Who can we trust?
I would think this is a very good thing. It's time parents actually questioned the insane vaccine schedule of the CDC. Most if not all shots are unnecessary, unproven and harmful.
Opened my eyes and confirmed what I always suspected but was ridiculed about. My kids will never get another vaccine of any kind. Staying away from all pharmaceuticals in general for that matter.
Same. Our boys are 7 and 8. I will never get them another flu shot and we'll skip HPV as well. Thankfully I think that's it for them.
Funny, as easily as I caved against my intuition about all childhood vaccines initially, we've never gotten flu shots--they made no sense to me. They don't seem to work and we rarely get the "flu." If we do, it lasts a few days tops. Why do I need an injection for that.
Same for me. I got a ton of shots in the past and never questioned their safety or usefulness. But the flu shot seemed useless even when I didn't doubt the industry at all. Now I question it all. These idiots torched all institutional credibility at the altar of covid and their clotshot.
The CDC added two meningitis vaccines to the childhood schedule last year. One at 12/13 and another at 15/16. For more than 15 years there's only been a college dose on the schedule and an opt-out waiver for all college students. That's gone too.
Thanks for that info! People don’t know what is happening quietly and not advertised on the “news”
Agree, flu shots are completely out of the question anymore.
Agree. My kids will never get another shot. Makes me sick to think of all the ones they DID get because I trusted the doctors and CDC. I always thought it was odd that they developed eczema and reflux issues when they were babies shortly after getting shots. Pretty sure I can see now what caused them!
Absolutely! No reason on earth babies should have either. It's absolute nonsense. They are literally being poisoned.
I’m upset about what my kids already got (they’re 6, 4, and 2). I really hope I haven’t damaged them. 😢
I feel the same way. It’s my biggest regret, but we have to move forward and not dwell on that. It’s hard.
My little terrier developed terrible rashes after every routine innoculation. I finally did some research and found a homeopathic remedy of two little pellets that I gave him as soon as we got home from the vet. Worked like a charm, he never had another problem. Gave me new respect for homeopathy.
We subscribe to the “one and done” vaccine schedule for our two youngest dogs. We worked with breeder and adopted the poodles w/o vaccines and waited until each was 16 weeks old so mother’s immunity from milk was out of their system and then WE vaxxed them for parvo and distemper 8 weeks apart from each other. We used “lyssin” as a homeopathic preventive before rabies vaccine at 6 months. We won’t vaccinate again but will get titers on the white one since he’s only a year to ensure everything ‘took’. The black poodle is all good with her protection as proven through titers.
Hopefully people wake up to the over vaccination in our pets as well.
One Vaccine can last their ENTIRE life, there’s absolutely no need to repeatedly vaccinate them.
I have a beautiful tuxedo blue was only vaxxed when a kitten. She is on her 21st year and can still get on the couch.
Absolutely. This experience with the the COVID vaccines woke me up. At this point,.I trust very little coming out of Big Pharma. Look at the vaccine schedule today compared to what it was when I was a child...it's nauseating. It's all about $$.
Agree. I had a conversation years ago with a farmer. She told me: "in the old days, when a calf was born, the vet came and put one injection to it, you wouldn't see the vet again unless it got sick. Now, they come every year with new shots".
The same is happening with humans.
Yep. I would agree that veterinarians are no different. Constantly sending you reminders to give your animal shot after shot. All about the $$.
Just like Bill Gates requires you to get frequent Windows updates.....that's the model for Big Pharma. And if Big Pharma gets Big Gov (CDC) to mandate this, so much the better, but for whom?
It may not be a good thing. Then again, maybe it is a good thing. Who knows? Igor has a very interesting article here:
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/florida-vaccine-hesitancy-reduced
"In 2021, vaccination of infants massively decreased in Florida due to “vaccine hesitancy”. Along with decrease in childhood vaccinations, all cause infant mortality ALSO MASSIVELY DECREASED, in a perfect lockstep!
The changes are very significant and can be considered an unintended experiment."
Parents like myself who were paying attention and hesitant BEFORE this nonsense were the ones who saw the lies early on. Do you think the lies and manipulation of data on vaccines started in 2020?
Good for you! I did trust the medical community. The sharp rise in autism caught my attention, but then this... They're simply untrustworthy.
Don't trust plastic either. Plastics have certain chemical compounds (BPA, BPH, etc) that are known to disrupt the endocrine system. This is why disorders on the spectrum are much more prevalent in males.
Agree. I would be one of those parents. I am now to the point where I will not continue to vaccinate my children with ANY vaccines, not to mention my fear to actually go to the doctor for anything anymore. Trust has been compromised and I am not sure how doctors will ever get that back.
Yes. I'm at this point too. I'm at an age where I'm now eligible for the shingles shot and soon the Pneumovax. I won't be taking them. I don't trust that they actually went through any kind of safety trials.
Shingles shot is nothing more than an enhanced Chicken Pox vaccine. My uncle got the Shingles shot, pressured by his Dr because he was in his 80's. Within days developed shingles and his health went downhill from there. Became so ill he had to be moved to a nursing facility and died within a couple of years, spent the last 18 months in a wheelchair & bed. This was a man that drove a church bus several times a week, went to the gym & walked a mile every other day-still drove his own car. For a man his age he was healthy.
One of my co-workers had the new shingles shot just before Covid and his reaction was quite severe. I remember thinking at the time, "I'm not sure I'm going to get this new shot." I am sorry to hear about your uncle. There are too many stories like his to simply dismiss them all as coincidence.
Same here
All I can say is if I were having my five kids NOW, I would be questioning every single vaccine pushed by the pediatrician. I have completely lost faith in healthcare as currently practiced today. And I say that as a nurse.
I've been watching the Hulu series "Dopesick" and the whole time I'm watching, I'm thinking "just replace Purdue with Pfizer and OxyContin with Covid shots and you have the same story." Replace it with any drug, to be honest, and you have the same story.
Yeah seriously. And contrary to the conventional wisdom that pharma doesn’t “make money on pediatric vaccines” - they make lots of (liability free) profit off the vast majority of kids in the US.
I’m five months pregnant and really struggling with this. My alarm over the way Covid vaccines have been handled by our regulatory bodies led me to read more about vaccines in general and I’ve seen some alarming studies about the HepB vaccine given at birth, in particular. Published in reputable medical journals, not CrunchyMamasRUs. And now I’m wondering if I should look more into all the other vaccines. Contrast to when my daughter was born a few years ago and I just implicitly trusted the medical system.
Same--I did vaccinate my kids fully--my 9 year old is just missing his last boosters (which he will not get) and of course, we won't be getting the HPV vax or any others. I read books and talked to doctors, but there was little online that didn't dispel hesitancy as stupidity. So I gave in--it is my biggest regret ever. I do think my kids have some suspected effects --such as RSV/asthma in my younger one which came out of nowhere but fast and hard at 18 mos. We'll never know. But what I do know is that 1) pharma has been conducting experiments from day 1 through these vaccines 2) we have no idea what is really in these shots and 3) there is no realistic need for any of them---not only have all of these diseases come and GONE, but they also had a 99%+ recovery rate when they were here. Doctors will tell you that we have to keep vaccinating to keep diseases like measles and mumps away--that's garbage.
I discovered a ton of friends whose kids are secretly unvaccinated. I wish I had taken that route. Be brave, be strong, just say no. You will be pressured and criticized by the doctors and nurses--and worse, they will try to scare the living daylights out of you when you are at your most vulnerable---be prepared. And make sure you have unequivocal orders in your paperwork ahead of the birth and mention it again to your doctor when your baby is born so there is no "mistake."
HepB at birth is an American thing and utterly unnecessary if you don’t have hepB. You get tested for it in pregnancy. Most of us of childbearing age are vaccinated ourselves. I’ve always skipped this abs many parents do. They never had issues with that.
It’s nice cause I can compare my euro country to the USA and schedules are vastly different. Same with pregnancy care and birth. We always had midwives on staff, birth tubs in every hospital. Eye ointment isn’t routine unless you have a history of std. vitamin k is given orally. Babies aren’t bathed in the hospital. Everything pregnancy and birth in the USA is to max profits abs minimize liabilities. Not with you or baby in mind. (Many providers of course care for their patients but the system marginalizes them)
So true. And it isn't just the vaccines. We moved several times back and forth between Europe (Germany) and the US and our children were born within just a few years in either side of the Atlantic. It is actually rather funny to compare the recommendations and procedures doctors in the two countries insisted upon: There were tests that were standard in Germany no one had ever heard about in the US and vice versa, and even the basics such as advice how and when to start solids foods were different. Considering that both countries claim to subscribe to "evidence-based medicine" and there are few significant differences between these two countries as far as standard of living is concerned, seeing these differences first hand does not really inspire trust in our modern medical system.
All my kids nursed past their second birthday. The immunity there is unparalleled and I recommend you do that. One son of mine had perfect skin until after his first shots and then he got terrible eczema that he still has over 30 years later. I am not sure that was the cause but am very suspicious.
Yes! I forgot to mention that. I breastfed both of my kids exclusively (no formula ever) but probably not long enough (14 months). I am sure that helped.
It helps in ways known and yet to be discovered. Breast feeding includes unparalleled total nutrition, immunity, maturational effects, comfort, learning and more.
Be ready to stand strong . Doctors will try to bully you. -someone who caved (to everything but covid) but no more
I trusted them with my children, to my regret - but I was lucky. My kids problems were small by comparison to others. Mine were worse, but still I was compliant until I dug in.
Every one of 39 childhood vaccines tested independently a few years ago were contaminated with a variety of animal viruses, chemicals, and metallic nanoparticle of unknown origin. Every one! There are reports of 'bad batches' every so often that killed and maimed. Pharma has no liability and simply does its best to spread the batches around so the evidence of harm isn't so obvious in one community. Don't even have to debate the 'science' of vaccines when the quality is so bad.
https://www.momsacrossamerica.com/glyphosate_in_childhood_vaccines
http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3109487/
So true--unforgivable.
Look at risk. What's the risk of a new born and HepB? Great books to read, The Moth in the Iron Lung and How to End the Autism Epidemic. Also, medical journals are great but the last year has really shown how compromised those can be as well ie mask studies from before 2020 being "updated".
Make sure you talk to the hospital & fill out the necessary forms and have them on you at delivery because hospitals want that money for giving so many newborn shots and when the child is out of your sight, they will inject. There was a recent article about this. Hospital will fight you on it but you have to know your rights. If feasible, have an attorney you can call of needed but make you decision known.
Parents outraged after newborn son vaccinated against their wishes
https://twitter.com/WCBD/status/1502292011277238272
Yes, and you never know what laws or "policies" are on the books creating loopholes for the medical profession to do whatever they please. Be an annoying fly in their ear. Make sure you trust your OB/Gyn implicitly. Consider homebirth? Learn abut everything they do to your baby once it's born--no one ever talks about the eye ointments, the Vit. K shots etc.--it's just DONE.
This was stated a long time ago. The only reason they give newborns HepB is because they cannot get enough adults to take it. Newborns have ZERO risk of HepB.
CDC’s Recommendation for Hepatitis B Vaccination in Infants. Are There More Risks Than Benefits? 3 Part series.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/cdcs-recommendation-for-hepatitis-b-vaccination-in-infants-are-there-more-risks-than-benefits/
For most people there's no need, especially if you aren't into the needles and drug scene. Or if you don't have it yourself.
May not be a good thing? Skepticism is almost always a good thing in my experience.
Take a look at what has happened to the childhood vax schedule over time at this link below, the increase is shocking. There is nothing new under the sun, Pharma has been playing this game for decades.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOgLPoSUcAcOUaW?format=jpg&name=900x900
So after all these additional shots, are kids actually healthier today? Hopefully parents are finally waking up. Pharma does not care about your kids bests interests.
awakening up is the ONLY good thing this Covid experience has brought to us.
Awakening is one thing. Holding the known perps to real accountability is another...WE know who they are too Great to be awake and see what is going on, but until REAL accountability is enforced none of this ends regardless of how awake one is.
But will it be enough? I fear for what the future holds, mainly for our children.
you have good reason to be concerned. unfortunately, not much we can do. lots of change coming our way. stay away from these vaxx at any costs.
It's not just a lack of trust when it comes to vaccines. I have avoided the pediatrician altogether for the last year. My oldest is 6 months overdue for a well child visit and I keep avoiding the docs calls. My youngest had a birthday last month and I'm not scheduling her either. They have sent me several emails about their Covid vax clinics. Last February when I went in for my youngest's well child visit, I noticed the Covid jab was already on her vax schedule. She was just turning 5. It wasn't even approved for her yet. That told me all I needed to know. So this year, we just haven't gone. And probably won't.
I can relate. Putting a moratorium on all vaccines here.
Good for you. Pre Covid I started seeing a push for pediatric flu shots and I thought “ are the f@&$ing kidding?” Kids need to build their immune system. Then someone in the healthcare system said the flu shots are often a fail for older folks so they needed a new stable source so kids
Paediatricians are the most indoctrinated when it comes to vaccines. Wise to stay clear of them. They just do as they're told and then are aggressive salespeople. Worse than ACME knives and vacuum salespeople.
Pediatricians need the money. I was told they are at the lowest end of the pay scale in terms of specialties. Vaccines are profitable for their practice. Insurance companies & the states incentivize giving vaccines. Here's a old booklet from BC/BS that gives how much Dr make for giving shots. This booklet is old so I'm sure the profit margin has gone up. BC/BS still puts this booklet online, they just removed any mention of vaccines. Look at page 15. If a Dr maintained a 63% vaccine level, to each child that get the full, they receive $400 per child. The higher the percentage they receive more. Dr have been know to kick kids out of their practice if the parent refuse shots. Kids not getting shots lowers their percentage. That messes with their money.
http://www.whale.to/c/2016-BCN-BCBSM-Incentive-Program-Booklet.pdf
Don’t blame your mom, if possible! She did what she thought was best for you out of ❤️.
Maybe this is how vaccines have been approved all along, which freaks me out! I thought there was much more rigorous testing and proof of efficacy and safety.
We all did--blind trust. This is America. The red pilling has been painful, but at the same time, everything finally makes sense.
Very painful. I think I can speak for every parent...it is one thing to do something to our bodies of our own choice, but to trust and then have it done to your children...this is terrible.
Check out the new film Vaxxed - you would be shocked to find out many of the shady things around these vaccines have been done similarly for all other vaccines. You can watch it here on episode 259 of the Highwire: The Movement that Inspired a Movement
https://thehighwire.com/watch/
Thanks, Katie!
One of the most shocking and disturbing things I’ve read about is what happened to Maddie DeGaray, the twelve year old who participated in the Pfizer trial and ended up in a wheelchair on a feeding tube shortly after her second dose. Perfectly healthy before. Pfizer reported her injury as “functional abdominal pain” and the FDA wouldn’t give her mom - who was so pro-vax she enrolled her three children in a vaccine trial - the time of day. Like… WTF was the point of having the trial??! If you’re just going to ignore any negative safety data. Is this how they conduct safety trials normally and we just don’t find out about it. They only network that covered this story was Fox, a tiny bit. It’s mind-blowing.
It is. What seems different now than ever before, is that all of these horrifying things are happening out in the open, through federal agencies, and the thing that is preventing most people from awareness is a trillion dollar media campaign/censorship. It's very effective. They're all in now--there's no going back, so I would expect things to get way worse from here.
This is exactly how I feel too.
The WHO was discussing the idea of annual booster shots of a 3 in 1 nature. So flu, covid mRNA and some other standard one in a single shot. So soon the flu shot might have mRNA in it. So it seems they've completely given up any care for creating hesitancy
flu vaxx last year was already mRNA. the thing about mRNA is that it might create problems into your body that will not be necessary connected to the vaxx.
Do you have a source on this, please? I know they want to go there, but wasn't aware that it has happened yet.
i am pretty sure it was last year, was told by people getting vaxxed. next year bourla, CEO of pfizer already said it will be one in all mRNA vaxx for flu, covid and whatever ... amount of bs they sell us. you could search it, but thats the plan for next year.
https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/covid19flu-vaccine-combo-might-increase-uptake-by-underserved-groups
Notice the paternal tone in getting "underserved" to take Covid shots. Basically advocates for tricking them into it.
Rsv
It's probably a good thing to be hesitant about a medicine that the company has no liability for. They've never cared to do the things vaccine hesitant people have been asking for, more studies, increased liability, acknowledgment of side effects, informed consent, etc. And that has always disturbed me.
I think the medical establishment will be so discredited that it will be many decades before trust is re-established, if it is even possible to do so at all.
Not just medical establishment. The media too (or especially), and the government. So many lies from so many people for such a long time.
If my understanding is correct, Moderna must get the vaccine on the children's vaccine schedule, so that Moderna can sell an FDA-approved version in the US free from liability for all ages.
It’s about getting it on the childhood vaccine schedule, so that they can have liability immunity permanently.
Robert F. Kennedy, quoted here:
https://wsau.com/2021/12/31/robert-f-kennedy-jr-explains-why-fauci-is-going-after-children/
“They are never going to market a vaccine, allow people access to a vaccine, an approved vaccine without getting liability protection. Now the emergency use authorization vaccines have liability protection under the PREP Act and under the CARES Act.
So as long as you take an emergency use vaccine, you can’t sue them. Once they get approved, now you can sue them, unless they can get it recommended for children. Because all vaccines that are recommended, officially recommended for children get liability protection, even if an adult gets that vaccine.
That’s why they are going after the kids. They know this is going to kill and injure a huge number of children, but they need to do it for the liability protection.”
1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, PL 99-660, gave manufacturers immunity for liability for injuries and deaths caused by vaccines on childhood immunization schedule.
2005 PREP Act, Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act, gave manufacturers immunity from liability for injuries and deaths caused by vaccines under Emergency Use Authorization.
2020 CARES Act, expanded PREP Act provisions, by expanding the number of people allowed to administer injections without facing liability for injuries and deaths caused by vaccines under EUA, except for ‘willful misconduct.’
https://www.phe.gov/emergency/events/COVID19/COVIDvaccinators/Pages/PREP-Act-Immunity-from-Liability-for-COVID-19-Vaccinators.aspx
not if they obtained the authorization by fraud. if they knew smt and did not disclose it, they do not have the legal shield. thats the reason moderna and pfizer, and FDA are so hesitant in disclosing their trial documents.
https://rumble.com/vwjmjm-bombshell-naomi-wolf-interviews-edward-dowd-about-pfizer-fraud-and-criminal.html
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/why-pfizer-and-moderna-and-fda-are?s=w
That is it!!! Everything on the SHOT SCHEDULE. Then we can go back to hating those parents who are “anti vax”. Remember Before Covid we shamed parents for not vaxing. THEY KNEW!!!
Agreed. My eyes have been opened.
Yeah we did know.
Yes we did, but many of us learned the hard way unfortunately.
Pfizer too