"But if even 10 percent of the people reported as vaccinated actually are not, then real figures are 300 out of 900,000 vaccinated compared to 50 out of 150,000 unvaccinated. In that case, exactly the same proportion of vaccinated and unvaccinated people have died."
Alex, earlier in this article, you point out that in MD and in the US, the vaccinated are more likely to be reported as unvaccinated because of the precise reporting requirements. Your example in this paragraph assumes the opposite.
Good question. The overall population of the unvaccinated is artificially/incorrectly small in the databases (some boosters are reported as first shots). But hospitalized people are MORE likely to be in incorrectly reported as unvaccinated since unknowns default to unvaccinated.
So the numerator is wrongly high and the denominator wrongly low.
Either way, your premise is still accurate. There was no pandemic of the unvaccinated. There is no evidence to support that and never was. They bloody lied.
This is why it's better to see apples-to-apples comparisons using actual numbers. Alex's post is less than satisfying because we still don't know how these relative proportions compare to the general population (e.g., are people hospitalized for Covid LESS likely or MORE likely to be vaccinated than the population at large)?
We can blame the health "authorities" for this lack of information, of course.
I just walked into a University of Chicago cafeteria where they (still) had signs saying the unvaccinated had to sit six feet apart and otherwise keep their difference from the vaccinated. Disgusting.
Absolutely insane. I have lost all trust and respect for doctors, and my father was a Harvard, MGH, Yale trained surgeon, so I grew up with great respect for medical professionals. It’s a sad day in America. Dad would be rolling in his grave…well, I’m sure he’s rolling in the ocean.
That’s disgusting. In all my years of travelling to the USA for holidays I could never imagined this would happen. We’re still banned from visiting and the way in which they’ve treated their own citizens I think I can say our final visit was 2019.
“Corrupt policies that actually hurt the poor… “ Education housing immigration — Spending other people’s money is the “solution” that mainly serves to bolster their feelings of social righteousness while insulating them from reality and costing them precious little.
I know a few people like that too. I think they are working so hard at making the cognitive dissonance make sense (boys can be girls, Trump's to blame for everything, grades don't really matter) that it's making them come unhinged.
One thing I saw the other day was a sign at a CVS Minute Clinic for a mental health professional!!
Tell your friends to read the real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr. or watch the movie. He’s a liberal who reports the truth and now he’s running for president.
In early May 2021 (May 5?) the New York TImes published an article that stated the number of breakthrough cases were so RARE - at 10,000 known breakthrough cases - the CDC would no longer record, or report on them.
The CDC and Fauci and all of the players in this game, especially Pfizer, KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING the shots did not prevent anyone from catching or spreading Covid. Still they moved swiftly to the narrative this was a virus of the UNVACCINATED and on that basis they mandated these shots.
The harm from all of this is probably irreparable on many levels. What happened to me as an unvaccinated individual was both terrifying and infuriating all during 2021 and on into 2022 and even 2023.
I simply cannot let go of it and my efforts to engage friends/relatives to help them see or admit the shots did not prevent them from getting sick or spreading covid and the unvaccinated were mistreated wrongfully - have all pretty much met with borderline-disastrous social consequences, even when I think I've done a good job of it. They are still right and you are still wrong. They are virtuous and you are not and that is that. Its insane.
So it has almost gotten almost worse for me psychologically, not better, as time has gone on. Now I read about animals being mRNA vaccinated and food as well. It's terrifying, especially as media keeps putting out little warnings about this disease or that disease becoming the next pandemic.
Makes me appreciate what Alex is doing all the more, but this is a stubborn nation populated with a large percentage of fools who seem transfixed and thrilled to continue to believe lie after lie after lie. I've pretty much lost hope and live with a lingering fear this will all happen again - and sooner than we can imagine right now.
correction: the shots don't prevent everyone, not anyone, from getting covid
It's all in the details. For some it could be protection from getting covid lasted for a short period of time, perhaps a few months. For others, it could be the shot was irrelevant as they already had natural immunity from having covid. For still others their shot came from a 'bad batch' so they were injured in some way by the shot, or they actually died after taking the shot. I read on Dr Peter McCullough's substack the majority of the Pfizer vaccine injuries and deaths seem to have come from between 4 and 5 % of the Pfizer vaccine batches. There are so many many reasons a full and honest investigation and report on the impact of these shots (they are not sterilizing vaccines) must be undertaken before this technology is used again in humans, animals, plants, food, etc.
4th word into this well written & researched article is the party you’ve pledged allegiance to. My brain can’t do that many somersaults. The 2 party system is a game that tyrants on both sides of the aisle win and We the People lose.
This is why Alex Berenson was right from day one! People don't understand Critical care or the mind of a Critical care Doctor. Most people never meet a Critical care doctor in a life time. Most don't understand or even been in ICU. Legacy media Government leaders have failed big time.
I work in a hospital. I don't have access to the actual data, but from working on med/surg units it was obvious by July 2021 that very many hosptilized covid patients were vaccinated. And right at this time the vaccine mandates for healthcare workers started to be pushed, right when it was clear the vaccines were failing to stop covid (which was the least of the flaws). To anyone who cared to look.
Dr. Michael Yeadon: Every Single Thing We Were Told Is a LIE
'The “Vaccines”Have Killed Millions... Personally I No Longer Believe There Was Any Novel Respiratory Virus... If we can’t persuade people of that, humanity is going down'
The state of Maryland had horrific pressure to vaccinate. “Get the damn shot!” was the slogan by the governor, and they had a cadre of people go door to door. Such tactics demean the informed, imo. Infuriating.
I saw the same thing in our numbers that July when I got Delta in July ‘21, 6 mos after 2nd BioN-Tech. I started looking at the Delta hospitalization surge and found 1. No previously infected cases hospitalized. None. 2. 20% hospitalized had 2 doses. That’s when I prepared to jump off the train. The latter number increased to 50% by Autumn and crossed over to 80% by March when Omicron replaced Delta and by then 3rd doses had been started in December.
The local Health Department kept changing the narrative over which variant was dominant in winter 2022, sometimes they said it was Delta, sometimes they said it was Omicron. By that time I’d finished reading Pandemia and jumped fully off the train
As an engineer we always know figures don't lie but liars figure. Always test your data sources for credibility better known as honesty. Anything coming from this U. S. government is immediately suspect.
Hate to see Walensky quoted again. How is this person still employed with our tax dollars? Perhaps the most incompetent, misguided health official in history. Is there no shame or is the stupidity so profound that she isn't even aware of her long history of inaccuracies? I believe it's the former: total awareness and no shame. Continuously appalling.
It has been crystal clear for a long time now for anyone willing to look for the data (and anyone willing to look around), but sadly the information is hidden and manipulated just enough to give cover to those who want it and that includes a significant percentage of vaccinated people. I believe even a decent percentage of vaccinated people that aren't really in support of the tactics used against unvaccinated people don't want to take responsibility for the damage they've done by looking the other way.
"But if even 10 percent of the people reported as vaccinated actually are not, then real figures are 300 out of 900,000 vaccinated compared to 50 out of 150,000 unvaccinated. In that case, exactly the same proportion of vaccinated and unvaccinated people have died."
Alex, earlier in this article, you point out that in MD and in the US, the vaccinated are more likely to be reported as unvaccinated because of the precise reporting requirements. Your example in this paragraph assumes the opposite.
Good question. The overall population of the unvaccinated is artificially/incorrectly small in the databases (some boosters are reported as first shots). But hospitalized people are MORE likely to be in incorrectly reported as unvaccinated since unknowns default to unvaccinated.
So the numerator is wrongly high and the denominator wrongly low.
Either way, your premise is still accurate. There was no pandemic of the unvaccinated. There is no evidence to support that and never was. They bloody lied.
Thank you Alex, all lies eventually fall apart.
I wish that were true.
This is why it's better to see apples-to-apples comparisons using actual numbers. Alex's post is less than satisfying because we still don't know how these relative proportions compare to the general population (e.g., are people hospitalized for Covid LESS likely or MORE likely to be vaccinated than the population at large)?
We can blame the health "authorities" for this lack of information, of course.
I would just say: it is not Alex’s post that is unsatisfying. It is the lack of good data.
See my comment that came after yours. In Maryland, you are more likely to be hospitalized for Covid if you've been vaxed.
I just walked into a University of Chicago cafeteria where they (still) had signs saying the unvaccinated had to sit six feet apart and otherwise keep their difference from the vaccinated. Disgusting.
Ignore everything. Be ungovernable. Flaunt it, to piss them off, whatever "it" needs to be and whoever "they" happen to be.
Oh I called attention to it. Loudly and angrily. F 'em.
We just tear down the signs, usually discretely. And no one ever seems to replace them.
Good man.
That is usually when I go to the table full of the mask wearers and start coughing. Then watch the cowards scatter.
Absolutely insane. I have lost all trust and respect for doctors, and my father was a Harvard, MGH, Yale trained surgeon, so I grew up with great respect for medical professionals. It’s a sad day in America. Dad would be rolling in his grave…well, I’m sure he’s rolling in the ocean.
That’s disgusting. In all my years of travelling to the USA for holidays I could never imagined this would happen. We’re still banned from visiting and the way in which they’ve treated their own citizens I think I can say our final visit was 2019.
It's rapidly becoming a nightmarish dystopia.
It really is
I still can't rejoin what was my favorite local gym.
Damn. Where the hell is that?!
No clue. They are probably, as you say, irredeemable, at least in this life. God can forgive them.
“Corrupt policies that actually hurt the poor… “ Education housing immigration — Spending other people’s money is the “solution” that mainly serves to bolster their feelings of social righteousness while insulating them from reality and costing them precious little.
Pretty sure I know your friends 🤣
We all have these friends.
I agree fully.
I know a few people like that too. I think they are working so hard at making the cognitive dissonance make sense (boys can be girls, Trump's to blame for everything, grades don't really matter) that it's making them come unhinged.
One thing I saw the other day was a sign at a CVS Minute Clinic for a mental health professional!!
It could be prion damage from the spike protein.
Tell your friends to read the real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr. or watch the movie. He’s a liberal who reports the truth and now he’s running for president.
In early May 2021 (May 5?) the New York TImes published an article that stated the number of breakthrough cases were so RARE - at 10,000 known breakthrough cases - the CDC would no longer record, or report on them.
The CDC and Fauci and all of the players in this game, especially Pfizer, KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING the shots did not prevent anyone from catching or spreading Covid. Still they moved swiftly to the narrative this was a virus of the UNVACCINATED and on that basis they mandated these shots.
The harm from all of this is probably irreparable on many levels. What happened to me as an unvaccinated individual was both terrifying and infuriating all during 2021 and on into 2022 and even 2023.
I simply cannot let go of it and my efforts to engage friends/relatives to help them see or admit the shots did not prevent them from getting sick or spreading covid and the unvaccinated were mistreated wrongfully - have all pretty much met with borderline-disastrous social consequences, even when I think I've done a good job of it. They are still right and you are still wrong. They are virtuous and you are not and that is that. Its insane.
So it has almost gotten almost worse for me psychologically, not better, as time has gone on. Now I read about animals being mRNA vaccinated and food as well. It's terrifying, especially as media keeps putting out little warnings about this disease or that disease becoming the next pandemic.
Makes me appreciate what Alex is doing all the more, but this is a stubborn nation populated with a large percentage of fools who seem transfixed and thrilled to continue to believe lie after lie after lie. I've pretty much lost hope and live with a lingering fear this will all happen again - and sooner than we can imagine right now.
correction: the shots don't prevent everyone, not anyone, from getting covid
It's all in the details. For some it could be protection from getting covid lasted for a short period of time, perhaps a few months. For others, it could be the shot was irrelevant as they already had natural immunity from having covid. For still others their shot came from a 'bad batch' so they were injured in some way by the shot, or they actually died after taking the shot. I read on Dr Peter McCullough's substack the majority of the Pfizer vaccine injuries and deaths seem to have come from between 4 and 5 % of the Pfizer vaccine batches. There are so many many reasons a full and honest investigation and report on the impact of these shots (they are not sterilizing vaccines) must be undertaken before this technology is used again in humans, animals, plants, food, etc.
4th word into this well written & researched article is the party you’ve pledged allegiance to. My brain can’t do that many somersaults. The 2 party system is a game that tyrants on both sides of the aisle win and We the People lose.
I would like to hear Rochelle Walensky publicly repudiate her prior statements on this topic.
Fat chance, I know.
This is why Alex Berenson was right from day one! People don't understand Critical care or the mind of a Critical care Doctor. Most people never meet a Critical care doctor in a life time. Most don't understand or even been in ICU. Legacy media Government leaders have failed big time.
I work in a hospital. I don't have access to the actual data, but from working on med/surg units it was obvious by July 2021 that very many hosptilized covid patients were vaccinated. And right at this time the vaccine mandates for healthcare workers started to be pushed, right when it was clear the vaccines were failing to stop covid (which was the least of the flaws). To anyone who cared to look.
From the start, they lied about EVERYTHING:
Dr. Michael Yeadon: Every Single Thing We Were Told Is a LIE
'The “Vaccines”Have Killed Millions... Personally I No Longer Believe There Was Any Novel Respiratory Virus... If we can’t persuade people of that, humanity is going down'
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-michael-yeadon-every-single-thing
Isn’t it interesting that the cascade of variants started about 5 to 6 months after the vaccine rollout? Delta, summer of 21. Omnicron, fall of 21
The state of Maryland had horrific pressure to vaccinate. “Get the damn shot!” was the slogan by the governor, and they had a cadre of people go door to door. Such tactics demean the informed, imo. Infuriating.
I wonder if the Governor took it. I don’t see many government officials in the uk suddenly dying or medical emergency
I saw the same thing in our numbers that July when I got Delta in July ‘21, 6 mos after 2nd BioN-Tech. I started looking at the Delta hospitalization surge and found 1. No previously infected cases hospitalized. None. 2. 20% hospitalized had 2 doses. That’s when I prepared to jump off the train. The latter number increased to 50% by Autumn and crossed over to 80% by March when Omicron replaced Delta and by then 3rd doses had been started in December.
The local Health Department kept changing the narrative over which variant was dominant in winter 2022, sometimes they said it was Delta, sometimes they said it was Omicron. By that time I’d finished reading Pandemia and jumped fully off the train
That is going where the data takes you. That is how science should work
As an engineer we always know figures don't lie but liars figure. Always test your data sources for credibility better known as honesty. Anything coming from this U. S. government is immediately suspect.
It wasn’t just the “pandemic of the unvaccinated” that they lied about…
Throwing Washington state into the mix here. The stats were updated every month until they became inconvenient, then they just disappeared.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/et-tu-snohomish
Hate to see Walensky quoted again. How is this person still employed with our tax dollars? Perhaps the most incompetent, misguided health official in history. Is there no shame or is the stupidity so profound that she isn't even aware of her long history of inaccuracies? I believe it's the former: total awareness and no shame. Continuously appalling.
It has been crystal clear for a long time now for anyone willing to look for the data (and anyone willing to look around), but sadly the information is hidden and manipulated just enough to give cover to those who want it and that includes a significant percentage of vaccinated people. I believe even a decent percentage of vaccinated people that aren't really in support of the tactics used against unvaccinated people don't want to take responsibility for the damage they've done by looking the other way.