I often wonder just where the country would be as bad, as it is with the intentional commiecrat destruction of this constitutional republic, IF DeSantis had not won the Governor election pre wuh flu scamdemic? The ONE person who probably saved the country from falling deep into the commie abyss
Outside of two recent trips to DC, Florida is the only state I’ve traveled to since March 2020. I’m in the Northeast, the sixth circle of hell. Cannot applaud you Floridians and DeSantis enough. As a well-worn cosmopolitan traveler and student of politics, all I can say is that Florida and DeSantis forever have a place in my heart and mind. Much respect and such a wonderful state with wonderful people. I will be back in the near-term and will continue to visit forever!!!
We told our 9 year old twins (when this first started in March 20') to tell the teachers to come talk to their dad if they had problems with them not wearing masks. They were kicked out of school. We homed schooled for a month and then moved to Florida in April of 20'. Best decision, in our lives, in more than one way. No way I was going to have my kids cover their effing faces
Good for you and your family! I am divorced from a Covidian (happened before Covid, but we definitely wouldn’t have made it through) and stuck in the NE. That said, my six year old twins now have a healthy understanding of governmental ineptitude to the extent that my daughter maligns masks as “completely stupid” and even seeks to torture me at time by feigning affection for them. She knows how to get at me.
Let's HOPE people never forget that point you make about the NE. All that happened to break-down America happened in BLUE run cities and BLUE run states. People must never forget when they vote what was done to them and their children and by WHO these past 3 years. It's not fuzzy either...its blatantly obvious
It’s a weird place, the NE and the Blue States/Cities. I’ve been opposed to all of it and saw through it all since February 2020 and have severed all sorts of friendships and family ties over it and have protected my unvaccinated children in the process as a divorced father. I’m in the driver’s seat now, and many liberal friends know that. But they still struggle to admit to the magnitude of their failure. There is some shame. But there is also some anger that is quiet. I am hopeful they translate that into smart electoral decisions. Cities like Cambridge and Somerville and Burlington, VT and NYC, there is the core of them that will never admit error. But I think there is a quiet and angry majority out here.
Yes...the quiet, angry and strong majority along with the mama bears are AWAKE. I wonder if it's just to hard for those duped to admit they were. It's as if they are truly afraid of confronting truth in some dysfunctional way. The psychosis is set DEEP.
The psychosis is nestled in a pre-existing dysfunction of not taking charge of one's life, of being lazy in making critical changes, of blaming others, and of not facing ugliness, confrontation, conflict, etc. I don't think they can admit what they've done or consented to without it affecting and revealing something they feel might overwhelm them, i.e., everything they've stuffed into the attic of their psyche.
Cambridge people of a certain type will not admit their error, but I think some of the less know-it-all types will. Boston, in my estimation, will not recover for at least 5 years. The ones who fell for this think Boston is "back". No. No, it's not.
All states are. The 10th amendment guarantees it. There is no enumerated power to force anyone to take a vax, so it's up to the states. Unfortunately, many states have installed and fully support governments worse than Joe. The problem isn't governments, it's the citizens who support them.
You're right, and that's why I can't stay here any more. The people have implicitly if not explicitly supported all the goings on these last few years. Plus, I was told this past winter that it's legal to force vaccinate people. I'm in MA. How can one tell if the state has such a law?
Even worse, how can you tell if any state won't have such laws later, even if they don't now. It comes down to public acceptance of capricious edicts from government at any level. Several generations have been indoctrinated that they can't support themselves, and they need benevolent masters to care for them. Those people will accept any abuse, and will viciously attack anyone who tries to undermine that dependence. They won't be deterred gently, or diplomatically. It will require force to break their conditioning.
Escaping tyranny is one approach. Better to stand and fight it. MA is your state, no reason you should surrender it to radicals. If you run, they'll just follow you.
I take your points. I agree that they won't allow anyone undermining their dependence. You're not the first one to say that I shouldn't run away, but I've already got it set up. I'll be splitting the year half here, half there. After three years of fighting I've seen almost zero result. I just don't know what to do with the ostrich situation. Yanking makes them cranky.
I escaped Washington State and am living free in the South Carolina upstate. Beautiful mountains and lakes with the amazing city of Greenville...no mandates....no tent cities....and a wonderful police presence. We will keep it Red !!
I will say this about DeSantis: he has some innate leadership skills that are not “taught” per se. I don’t hate Abbott (or Kemp) but I get your point. That said, DeSantis has shown impeccable leadership skills in his ability to seek second opinions, push back against a rabid media, and put the interests of his constituencies first, especially the elderly and kids. He ran the gauntlet and did really, really well.
Thanks. And I say the same thing to people in the NE and they’re like, “Whhhaaaat?!?!” They’re not thinking. At least not critically or objectively. The partisan mentality in the NE is corrosive.
DeSantis has fallen prey to a bit of state-imposed censorship. See David French's perspective on this imperfection. Like all politicians and people, he needs critical feedback from supporters and detractors. CRT needs critical analysis, not censorship after 6th grade.
Because it is Florida, these findings will be completely dismissed and denigrated by the legacy media. They will likely go a step further and use it as the basis of a whole slew of political attacks on DeSantis.
The vaccine passports may not have been as harmful physically, but the psychological damage was enormous. I would not ever have left Boston if they hadn't done that.
This past winter they denied what they were doing, i.e., practicing segregation. But this morning I mentioned this to someone and got no pushback. I think they're beginning to sense that they will eventually need to face the truth of what they did.
I was relatively unscathed by passports - I work in a family business and my close friends never turned on me - but I was made to feel like a pariah for 6 months in my city and only just this month were travel restrictions lifted here in Canada. I still very much feel an underlying simmer of mistrust and defensiveness and I don’t know when those feelings will fully go away. The trauma is real.
I'm glad your close friends supported you, but having one's town shut its doors, and especially for 6 months (here it was only 5 weeks), will indeed leave a lasting scar. I never thought I was going to be so affected. I haven't felt that way since grade school. In response, I decided Boston wasn't home any more. From now on I will be away 7.5 months. I felt a sense of betrayal and deep hurt that people would cast me totally out like that, and that no one fought for me, not even in words.
The degree to which our government, media and corporations pushed all the fear of Covid on our kids is well, hard to express in words the outrage. Lockdowns, masks, stay away from grandma, get vaccinated. All to the part of our society least are risk. Every time I saw a “thank you teachers” lawn sign in my town I wanted to scream. Often I did.
Because people are for the most part lazy. They go along to get along. Also a large amount of people still believe that the vaccine is great and serious illness and death awaits all the unjabbed.
& therein lies the problem: not enough pushback. As a parent, I was never okay with my 20 somethings getting it. Still shocked so many were, & still are. 😱
Yes. There are actually operational risk issues with giving these unnecessary therapies to young people, esp. young men in the aviation career fields. There is an Army flight surgeon (O5) who went to the matts for this, I haven't heard much about her recently.
It's literally a national security threat. Just the sheer volume of people that were required to take the DIRT. It is inevitable that someone/something will be compromised during a military exercise.
“I have so many soldiers being destroyed by this vaccine. Not a single member of my senior command has discussed my concerns with me,” she said amid tears.
“I have nothing to gain and everything to lose by talking about it,” Long said.
She added that she is willing to lose her career “because I am watching people get absolutely destroyed.”
She said she regularly has been contacted by military personnel who have been injured by the shots, and most are pilots, who “have to meet one of the highest fitness standards.”
Agree- it seems to be more accepted with older population, but who’s to say it’s not affecting them also. I’m not even 40 and I know so many of my peers who’ve lost their parents in the past year- so people in 60ish year range. Seems awfully coincidental with timing when losing parents at my age used to be more rare.
Ladapo already recommended against children receiving the mRNA injections, many weeks ago, as soon as FDA greenlighted them. He's a smart guy who's capable of looking at risk and benefit, and he has kids of his own, so it's real to him.
...and yet, the drumbeat to get vaccinated still goes on, and on, and on. Medicare and the VA are sending me reminders almost daily. Fortunately I think in spite of the 2 shots I received, which I am sure caused me to drop into the low platelet range, I am pretty healthy. I am done with shots forever until I can trust they know WTF they are doing. BTW, Epoch Times is running an article dated 1 OCT about the discovery of 500 corrupted peer reviewed studies, which is troubling. Can anyone be trusted anymore?
No way. She looks like Cruella with that white streak down her hair. Mike Lindell would be a great VP. He's also religious...a true harbinger as he makes his way around the world representing the good ole USA.
Absolutely agree! Change the language and the definition is a way to just gain control, especially when you demonize and alienate people for not using the new words and phrases
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The state of Florida, which has been at the forefront of Covid science, already recommends AGAINST Covid vaccines for all children under 18, and as of today for all males under 40.
Which state will be next to finally begin to do the right thing according to the emerging risk vs benefit data and stop recommending these experimental injections?!
I think that this caution is reasonable. We also need a study of cardiac risk in the 25-39 age group between mRNA recipients and a control group who got COVID infection, which itself is a risk for cardiac complications. It is really good that we have a Florida Surgeon General who is thinking independently and open to discussion.
Florida is de facto it's own country. Come down and visit folks.
I don't think another State will act accordingly.
DeSantis is the only leader that is not complicit.
Living in Florida has been a blessing these last 2 plus years. Desantis made sure of that.
DeSantis '24
DeSantis is the only leader. Period.
I often wonder just where the country would be as bad, as it is with the intentional commiecrat destruction of this constitutional republic, IF DeSantis had not won the Governor election pre wuh flu scamdemic? The ONE person who probably saved the country from falling deep into the commie abyss
I agree 100%
Federalism and just enough loopholes helped.
But had DeSantis not won, the covid debacle would've been way worse.
He's the only one who had common sense...and a pair.
Don’t forget Brian Kemp in Georgia. He opened first.
Amen
Outside of two recent trips to DC, Florida is the only state I’ve traveled to since March 2020. I’m in the Northeast, the sixth circle of hell. Cannot applaud you Floridians and DeSantis enough. As a well-worn cosmopolitan traveler and student of politics, all I can say is that Florida and DeSantis forever have a place in my heart and mind. Much respect and such a wonderful state with wonderful people. I will be back in the near-term and will continue to visit forever!!!
We told our 9 year old twins (when this first started in March 20') to tell the teachers to come talk to their dad if they had problems with them not wearing masks. They were kicked out of school. We homed schooled for a month and then moved to Florida in April of 20'. Best decision, in our lives, in more than one way. No way I was going to have my kids cover their effing faces
Good for you and your family! I am divorced from a Covidian (happened before Covid, but we definitely wouldn’t have made it through) and stuck in the NE. That said, my six year old twins now have a healthy understanding of governmental ineptitude to the extent that my daughter maligns masks as “completely stupid” and even seeks to torture me at time by feigning affection for them. She knows how to get at me.
I left a similar relationship...she was just too far gone into the abyss and still is. So LOVE your kids having real critical thinking skills!
They’ll be reading Camus and Havel by the time they’re 7.
Wish there was a laugh button. Critical thinkers!
Bless You!
so respect that!
Let's HOPE people never forget that point you make about the NE. All that happened to break-down America happened in BLUE run cities and BLUE run states. People must never forget when they vote what was done to them and their children and by WHO these past 3 years. It's not fuzzy either...its blatantly obvious
It’s a weird place, the NE and the Blue States/Cities. I’ve been opposed to all of it and saw through it all since February 2020 and have severed all sorts of friendships and family ties over it and have protected my unvaccinated children in the process as a divorced father. I’m in the driver’s seat now, and many liberal friends know that. But they still struggle to admit to the magnitude of their failure. There is some shame. But there is also some anger that is quiet. I am hopeful they translate that into smart electoral decisions. Cities like Cambridge and Somerville and Burlington, VT and NYC, there is the core of them that will never admit error. But I think there is a quiet and angry majority out here.
Yes...the quiet, angry and strong majority along with the mama bears are AWAKE. I wonder if it's just to hard for those duped to admit they were. It's as if they are truly afraid of confronting truth in some dysfunctional way. The psychosis is set DEEP.
The psychosis is nestled in a pre-existing dysfunction of not taking charge of one's life, of being lazy in making critical changes, of blaming others, and of not facing ugliness, confrontation, conflict, etc. I don't think they can admit what they've done or consented to without it affecting and revealing something they feel might overwhelm them, i.e., everything they've stuffed into the attic of their psyche.
so very well said! The coddled and entitled victim mind
It is similar to what happened in Germany after WWII. People did not want to face or own up to their complicity in a bad situation.
perfect analogy...history just repeating itself
Well, if they don't they will only suffer more. Denying the truth about oneself to oneself is the most grievous thing one can do to oneself.
Cambridge people of a certain type will not admit their error, but I think some of the less know-it-all types will. Boston, in my estimation, will not recover for at least 5 years. The ones who fell for this think Boston is "back". No. No, it's not.
Moving in a month... (at least for the winters)
All states are. The 10th amendment guarantees it. There is no enumerated power to force anyone to take a vax, so it's up to the states. Unfortunately, many states have installed and fully support governments worse than Joe. The problem isn't governments, it's the citizens who support them.
You're right, and that's why I can't stay here any more. The people have implicitly if not explicitly supported all the goings on these last few years. Plus, I was told this past winter that it's legal to force vaccinate people. I'm in MA. How can one tell if the state has such a law?
Even worse, how can you tell if any state won't have such laws later, even if they don't now. It comes down to public acceptance of capricious edicts from government at any level. Several generations have been indoctrinated that they can't support themselves, and they need benevolent masters to care for them. Those people will accept any abuse, and will viciously attack anyone who tries to undermine that dependence. They won't be deterred gently, or diplomatically. It will require force to break their conditioning.
Escaping tyranny is one approach. Better to stand and fight it. MA is your state, no reason you should surrender it to radicals. If you run, they'll just follow you.
I take your points. I agree that they won't allow anyone undermining their dependence. You're not the first one to say that I shouldn't run away, but I've already got it set up. I'll be splitting the year half here, half there. After three years of fighting I've seen almost zero result. I just don't know what to do with the ostrich situation. Yanking makes them cranky.
Agree
We really can't do heat and flat......We need another option....a cold and mountainous climate with Florida politics.
Please....we can not remain in NJ.
I escaped Washington State and am living free in the South Carolina upstate. Beautiful mountains and lakes with the amazing city of Greenville...no mandates....no tent cities....and a wonderful police presence. We will keep it Red !!
Jealous (as a Washingtonian who’s praying Patty Murray gets stomped to pieces) but happy that you’re living free!!!
We all continue to support Tiffany Smiley even though we are not there. Its a fight for the nation!!
I'm looking for property in NC right now. You should check it out.
Had a vacation home in mammoth lakes. Sold it so I didn't have to deal with CA.
SD? Maybe it's flat, but there's NH, which is not flat, is cold, and is not as bad as some places.
There are mountains near Rapid City
You can't have everything! Missourah is red as can be, pretty damn cold in the winter, and we have a few hills.
Agreed. Abbott in Texas is complicit.
I will say this about DeSantis: he has some innate leadership skills that are not “taught” per se. I don’t hate Abbott (or Kemp) but I get your point. That said, DeSantis has shown impeccable leadership skills in his ability to seek second opinions, push back against a rabid media, and put the interests of his constituencies first, especially the elderly and kids. He ran the gauntlet and did really, really well.
And the other leaders in his state have followed his lead. It’s so impressive!
Well said
Thanks. And I say the same thing to people in the NE and they’re like, “Whhhaaaat?!?!” They’re not thinking. At least not critically or objectively. The partisan mentality in the NE is corrosive.
As it is in western WA.
DeSantis has fallen prey to a bit of state-imposed censorship. See David French's perspective on this imperfection. Like all politicians and people, he needs critical feedback from supporters and detractors. CRT needs critical analysis, not censorship after 6th grade.
Hopefully, this is the start of a trend, given the avalanche of research debunking the "safe and effective" propaganda.
Because it is Florida, these findings will be completely dismissed and denigrated by the legacy media. They will likely go a step further and use it as the basis of a whole slew of political attacks on DeSantis.
Of course they will ,that's all they've got And the governor scares them to death
Our DOD should listen and stop all military mandates
The two things that disgust me the most are:
- They promoted this DIRT to children.
- They mandated it for some of the most healthy people in the world - our military - those that would/could defend us.
Shame on them!
The vaccine passports may not have been as harmful physically, but the psychological damage was enormous. I would not ever have left Boston if they hadn't done that.
One of the most vile injustices in America's history.
Nobody will want to own this eggrerious discrimination 10 years from now.
Thank goodness we have the receipts.
Ordinary people are going to have to do some self reflection.
Absolutely.
This past winter they denied what they were doing, i.e., practicing segregation. But this morning I mentioned this to someone and got no pushback. I think they're beginning to sense that they will eventually need to face the truth of what they did.
I think you’re right. I’m known in my neighborhood as the guy who is unvaccinated. Tight suburban neighborhood. People are beginning to come around.
I was relatively unscathed by passports - I work in a family business and my close friends never turned on me - but I was made to feel like a pariah for 6 months in my city and only just this month were travel restrictions lifted here in Canada. I still very much feel an underlying simmer of mistrust and defensiveness and I don’t know when those feelings will fully go away. The trauma is real.
I'm glad your close friends supported you, but having one's town shut its doors, and especially for 6 months (here it was only 5 weeks), will indeed leave a lasting scar. I never thought I was going to be so affected. I haven't felt that way since grade school. In response, I decided Boston wasn't home any more. From now on I will be away 7.5 months. I felt a sense of betrayal and deep hurt that people would cast me totally out like that, and that no one fought for me, not even in words.
Canada has made California look ultra-careful. Shameful. Will Trudeau ever pay?
The degree to which our government, media and corporations pushed all the fear of Covid on our kids is well, hard to express in words the outrage. Lockdowns, masks, stay away from grandma, get vaccinated. All to the part of our society least are risk. Every time I saw a “thank you teachers” lawn sign in my town I wanted to scream. Often I did.
Yeah. It's hard to get over.
I feel just like you.
It all seems so straight forward.
The people would do it all over again, just like they did the first time. They just have to be told they "don't have a choice".
I hope we don't see a second time around. Dangerous imo.
All States' Dept of public health should too and stop all mandates at colleges and universities
Why are parents allowing this?
Seriously.
Because people are for the most part lazy. They go along to get along. Also a large amount of people still believe that the vaccine is great and serious illness and death awaits all the unjabbed.
Excellent question that needs to be answered! Too much group think... Too much compliance... Too much "that could never be" thought...
Followers!
Xactly
Really good question. I went 10 rounds w my kids principal over masks. To no avail. I felt as though I was the only parent complaining.
& therein lies the problem: not enough pushback. As a parent, I was never okay with my 20 somethings getting it. Still shocked so many were, & still are. 😱
Yes. There are actually operational risk issues with giving these unnecessary therapies to young people, esp. young men in the aviation career fields. There is an Army flight surgeon (O5) who went to the matts for this, I haven't heard much about her recently.
It's literally a national security threat. Just the sheer volume of people that were required to take the DIRT. It is inevitable that someone/something will be compromised during a military exercise.
Her name is Dr. Teresa Long
“I have so many soldiers being destroyed by this vaccine. Not a single member of my senior command has discussed my concerns with me,” she said amid tears.
“I have nothing to gain and everything to lose by talking about it,” Long said.
She added that she is willing to lose her career “because I am watching people get absolutely destroyed.”
She said she regularly has been contacted by military personnel who have been injured by the shots, and most are pilots, who “have to meet one of the highest fitness standards.”
No one of any age should take any of those shots until we sort it all out.
Yes. They start with saying it’s unsafe for the young but it’s a stepping stone. A heart is a heart. These shots just aren’t safe. For anybody.
Agree- it seems to be more accepted with older population, but who’s to say it’s not affecting them also. I’m not even 40 and I know so many of my peers who’ve lost their parents in the past year- so people in 60ish year range. Seems awfully coincidental with timing when losing parents at my age used to be more rare.
Exactly!
Ladapo already recommended against children receiving the mRNA injections, many weeks ago, as soon as FDA greenlighted them. He's a smart guy who's capable of looking at risk and benefit, and he has kids of his own, so it's real to him.
...and yet, the drumbeat to get vaccinated still goes on, and on, and on. Medicare and the VA are sending me reminders almost daily. Fortunately I think in spite of the 2 shots I received, which I am sure caused me to drop into the low platelet range, I am pretty healthy. I am done with shots forever until I can trust they know WTF they are doing. BTW, Epoch Times is running an article dated 1 OCT about the discovery of 500 corrupted peer reviewed studies, which is troubling. Can anyone be trusted anymore?
More like the “dumbbeat.”
Watch how the “media” slander him now too.
They have a two year head start vs. what they had with Trump.
Watch how brutal it gets. DeSantis will have no "free media" like Trump did.
I think DeSantis should run with Ladapo.
What do you think?
I would love to see him run with Nikki Haley.
I think she’s a RINO globalist.
Me too.
Hard pass on Haley. HARD. PASS.
Absolutely NO Haley
I agree, Nikki is definitely a war-loving neocon, despite sounding reasonable about many things.
I don't like her. She wouldn't back Trump early when it counted. She waited, I'll never forget.
NOOOO please. Nikki is a Rino.
Hey Gang…what would you all think of Trump/ Tulsi Gabbard ?
She's my favorite Democrat, but no.
Funny
No way. She looks like Cruella with that white streak down her hair. Mike Lindell would be a great VP. He's also religious...a true harbinger as he makes his way around the world representing the good ole USA.
I think we have to have full out fighter's. I think she's still too worried about what the NY TIMES would write about her.
Plus she's never seen a war she didn't like.
IMO she'd be a turn off for nearly half the people who voted for Trump in 20'
Small correction: it's "Ladapo" (not Ladopo). And wow, I'm very thankful to have him here in Florida.
Follow the science. Follow the data. (Unless it is biology, genetics or shots, per the left)
Or "gender affirming" care
Changing the "meaning" of words is the biggest threat we face.
If Musk doesn't take Twitter then AB's 1A rights will die a death of a thousand cuts.
He's only facing blunt force now. Words are the easiest to manipulate and the easiest to sanction.
Absolutely agree! Change the language and the definition is a way to just gain control, especially when you demonize and alienate people for not using the new words and phrases
this
Thanks for this, Alex. This is the clearest explanation I've read. Take a day off now. :)
I just got this from a Florida friend today!!
https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccines-doc.pdf
Too bad the rest of them are by saying the same thing.
Aren't!!! Stupid autocorrect.
Dr. Ladopo is black. If other states disagree with him, we get to call them racists.
FB just censored my post of the Florida Department of Health's recommendation as "misinformation" writing as follows:
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Coleen Rowley
October 7 at 7:51 PM ·
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The state of Florida, which has been at the forefront of Covid science, already recommends AGAINST Covid vaccines for all children under 18, and as of today for all males under 40.
Which state will be next to finally begin to do the right thing according to the emerging risk vs benefit data and stop recommending these experimental injections?!
I think that this caution is reasonable. We also need a study of cardiac risk in the 25-39 age group between mRNA recipients and a control group who got COVID infection, which itself is a risk for cardiac complications. It is really good that we have a Florida Surgeon General who is thinking independently and open to discussion.