Very publicly. How publicly? In an opinion piece in The NY Times saying Russia needs an “off-ramp” from the highway to hell that is the Ukrainian invasion.
Imma highlight the part that matters. It’s the part where the writer calls Russia an “economic burden” to China.
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But who’s the writer? Probably some hopeful airhead like Tom Friedman, right?
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Oh.
This a warning from Beijing to the Kremlin, make no mistake. We can quit you, Vlad! You’ve had your fun, now it’s time to declare victory and go home.
Whether it makes any difference is another question.
Something to ponder. China to the rescue. China gets Putin to stop China is the hero. China is the leader of the “free world” now. America then looks even weaker. Unfortunately this is what the people running America want. Our leaders want to be the CCP of America. In order to do that America as we’ve known it must fall.
Wow, Alex, hang on. This is typical fig leaf propaganda. “See, we told Russians to f off!” You really believe this? There are scores of examples of this, especially coming from China. Sorry—naive (I 95% love your pandemic coverage).
sorry alex to blow your bubble ... wrong again, as in ivermectin you seem stuck on your position.
China is a big country. by the very definition, the head of a NGO does not present the government or the party. i would pay attention to ministry of foreign relations - their department of state, if there is a signal will come from there, not some nongovernmental body on human rights. read more on china.
Please stop posting about Ukraine. If I wanted the neocon perspective I could tune into the MSM. Stick to corona journalism. Stay away from Ukraine punditry.
It’s all about The Great Reset. Obama took out the duly elected president and put in Zelensky. He is a puppet for the World Economic Forum. In fact, a Junior leader. Check out his boy band video in four inch stilettos and black leather. DISGUSTING!!! Russia took out the Bio Labs. Video of 2016, then VP Biden refused to leave Ukraine without the prosecutor getting fired. Only then would UK receive US money. He was investigating Hunter and the Biden family. Ukraine has largely been infiltrated by the Nazi’s. Look at the connection between the Rothchilds and UK. Project Mockingbird says to focus on the UK boarder and forget about Covid and ours boarder. The sex trafficking and human smuggling is off the charts. And do not look at the cocaine that is laced with fentanyl which is flooding into our boarders straight from China. China good Russia bad!! All a BIG distraction!! The military complex is hard at work making more money. What does the Biden, Romney, Kerry and Pelosi families all have in common? Their kids work for the UK Oil Company. Wake up people!!!
Alex, you are an attentive reader! Clearly, when Putin screws up, that news is fit to print, but when Washington screws up, that is misinformation and definitely not fit to print, except maybe several years later, when it is no longer sensitive...
Not sure how you can possibly think writing an op-ed in the NYTimes is how China would tell Russia to stop, and not how China would tell the west, "hey, look we're trying."
Maybe yes, maybe no. I swear I don’t know what is going on except I have never seen such one sided “war” coverage. Fox is 24/7 “we have to help Ukraine” and “Putin is satan” messaging. All the refugees look like they are calm and just going to work or something. If I were running for my life, I think I would look a little more stressed. Just like with covid, something is off. It’s tiresome having news outlets with a main goal of manipulating opinion. Especially when you suspect something sinister going on.
China doesn't need to use a NYT op-ed to communicate its displeasure (or anything else for that matter) to Russia. They have direct channels.
Why would China choose to publish this in the NYT? Consider the NYT audience: the American elite. That is who this message is intended for, not Russia. It's likely a hedge, or delaying tactic.
Yes, the CCP is giving warnings to Russia via the NYT. 😒
Meanwhile, their official state declarations refuse to call this an invasion, they already knew about it and asked Putin to make his move after the Olympics and they're offering Russia new trade deals and card processing.
More like Finish the job! What’s taking so long? Look for Russia to put the choke hold on to force Ukraine to tap out. No pretend victories for the West in this one.
Biden professes to wanting to avoid WW3, yet everything he has done from Day One is putting us on the path to global war. The Dem Party corruption is so deep it is destroying the US. It is apparent that the ongoing payments to the Biden family while Joe was in office with Obama, and with Hillary running around the world accepting bribes for her foundation, that these people are simply minions for their foreign paymasters. BTW Clintons want to restart their Foundation. The corruption is complete.
Sorry but stop watching CNN or reading MSNBC and check alternatives like ASB Military News on GAB/Telegram: Slowly but surely, the Russians are winning - give it a few more weeks...
In the mean time - how about taking about those biolabs in the Ukraine and what is going on in them???
I’m sure we all hope this writer’s advice is heeded…. By all parties involved. Perhaps in the future, the Ukrainians will realize when the going gets tough, the puppet masters cut and run. I edit this to make clear (as if anyone is actually reading this) that I fully support US and NATO ‘s refusal to poke the bear too much. I just hope those suffering the most, the Ukrainian citizens themselves, understand this tragedy that the ruling elites of all countries, including their own, and the controlled media, got them into.
Right, right. So, let me get this straight: In order to get a message to Putin, China needs to have one of its thought leaders pen an Op/Ed in the NYT. They couldn't just pick up the phone or send a text message. China's preferred medium is the NYT.
Or, is it that they want naive Americans to think they're telling Putin to back down?
All this double-reverse psychology really is confusing.
Alex continues to discredit himself by regurgitating NYT propaganda on Ukraine. That is going to hurt your credibility in general Alex. You should stop. I mean that in the kindest way. You have no clue what you're talking about here and it makes you appear sloppy, unprofessional and incompetent. Its going to undermine your good reporting on Covid. You are doing more damage to yourself than any blues ever could by acting as a megaphone for their BS.
Due diligence? Nah. He is a Harvard University Kennedy School Fellow. No conflict there. He does not speak for the chinese gov and he is one guy from a country of over 1 billion. I'm sure NYT can find someone to hold any view from China, especially a Harvard fellow.
China will not support Russia's "economic burden." China needs Russia's raw materials. Russia (unlike china) is close to autarky. China is completely dependent on foreign markets and foreign energy and raw supplies. The economic slowdown and increase in pricing of raw materials will hurt China, likely more than russia, because as food and gas prices increase, available discretionary income for all the stuff china makes falls and everything china makes becomes more expensive.
I doubt China communicates with Putin via NYT. More likely this is a bit of virtue signaling for American consumption. Uighur genocide? Hong Kong repression? Don't worry, we'll help with those weally weally bad rabbits, eh, Russians.
Alex is correct. It's a message, not mere "opinion." Those commenting here that there are no true NGOs in China - so that this couldn't have been published other than at CCP's directive - are also correct. The only questions are the exact nature of the message(s) and the intended audience(s). I haven't read the whole piece because I certainly don't pay to subscribe to and support the Times. But it's of course not impossible for a message to have multiple intended audiences and also to be crafted in such a way that certain audiences hear what they "need" to hear and others hear what they want to hear. It seems logical to me that Putin is being told to "wrap it up or else" and everyone else is being told "see, we are trying to help (and don't forget we're the only ones who can)".
More nonsense from the useful idiot who actually believes the Bidet’s regime lies about the chemical and biological weapons in has been working on the the neo Nazi country Ukraine.
So I’m not a geopolitical analyst like everyone else on the internet but I don’t think people understand how bad kicking Russia out of the system is for the US. China and Russia have positioned for this for years.
It isn't time to "declare victory and go home" until the following three things happen, after an UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER by the Zelenskyy government - the (US sponsored) coup regime made Ukraine's bed, and now the regime must sleep in it - and their Ukrainian citizen victims will, unfortunately have to accept the results of the regime's folly: 1) Ukraine changes its constitution to establish itself as a neutral country and to remain FOREVER out of NATO, 2) the majority of the (self declared neo-nazi) Azov Battalion are dead, or completely neutralized (meaning dead) - they pose a threat not only to Ukraine but to the whole world, and 3) Crimean self determination to join Russia and the sovereignty of the Donbas regions of Donesk and Luhank both receive FULL recognition from Kiev. Anything less makes this horrible war, where the Ukrainian people have been tossed as valueless pawns in Western imperialism, of no permanent value.
This is off topic but I'm hoping someone in this group can help me. My 18 year old nephew was having heart arrhythmia. He had Covid in February 2021. He got the jab for college by my sister in laws insistence even after I urged her to try for a religious exemption. His doctor wants to do a full workup because she's rightly worried about myocarditis etc. The problem is, she is attributing his issue to his Covid infection from 13 months ago. His vaccination was in October and November. I have been searching all over and the studies that big tech will let me find try to say heart issues are more prevalent in post Covid infections vs. post vaccination. Even the study in Nature leaves out the bit how people in the post Covid group with higher rates of myocarditis than the post vaccine group were ALSO vaccinated. Instead of blaming the vaccine, they blame the infection. Does anyone have any real data I can show this doctor??? It seems like common sense to me that he had no issue for many months then gets jabbed and NOW has issues. Everyone in this group is well versed on how the vaccine overloads your body with the spike. That doesn't occur in the same way with natural infection. How do these doctors not see the issue?
I don't want these people to get away with their bullshit by blaming the virus when it's pretty freaking clear it was the vaccine that caused this.
Alex, that means nothing. Of course Dr Huiyao has a Global interest and he may be pushing for this. But there are multiple forces in China. They are not all in line with Dr Huiyao wishes.
Watch what the Chinese do, not what they say. The Chinese stand to benefit greatly by the sanctions placed on Russia over their move into Ukraine, and the price Russia is paying vis a vis the West over this move makes any cessation of Russian military action fruitless without a Ukranian pledge not to join NATO and not have ballistic missiles positioned in Ukraine.
The Chinese are being coy and shrewd as is their nature in foreign policy, seeking to appease the West publicly while moving forward with the opportunity now presented to group half the world's people under a new alternative de-dollarized world finncial system. They recognize that they still need access to Western consumer markets to sell their exports in the short-run while the move to create the new financial system in the East satisfies their long-term objectives.
Which all means that while they will pay lip service to the Western objectives to box in Russia from the West, they will continue to support the trade and currency arrangements with Russia that lead to a new Eastern de-dollarized financial system. And they know the US and Western powers have no say in this matter, as they do not have the manufacturing capabilites to offset an embargo of Chinese imports into their countries, and any attempt to significantly curtail those imports would lead to the Western financial armadgeddon wrought by the resultant Chinese liquidation of the 5+ trillion in dollar-based securities investments that China presently holds.
This kind of liquidation would not have mattered to the West in the past as their Central banks would have printed the money to buy these securities. But the new structural dollar- and Euro-based inflationary paradigm that has taken hold around the world due to a tripling in US debt during the last 14 years has tied the hands of Central Bank money creation for the foreseeable future. 5 trillion in dollar-based securities liquidation would collapse Western financial markets now, leading to a debasement of Western currencies, and untenable monetary inflation well above what is currently being experienced.
In the aggregate, it is in both Russian and Chinese interests to see the war in Ukraine continue, which is why it will until either the present government or the one that the Russia installs in Ukraine cedes to the Russian demands.
Alex, You're a CCP propaganda pawn now. It's a very bad look. You're putting the most evil regime on a pedestal. The CCP is waging unrestricted warfare against the USA, including murdering millions of our young people with fentanyl. Shame on you.
Something to ponder. China to the rescue. China gets Putin to stop China is the hero. China is the leader of the “free world” now. America then looks even weaker. Unfortunately this is what the people running America want. Our leaders want to be the CCP of America. In order to do that America as we’ve known it must fall.
Wow, Alex, hang on. This is typical fig leaf propaganda. “See, we told Russians to f off!” You really believe this? There are scores of examples of this, especially coming from China. Sorry—naive (I 95% love your pandemic coverage).
I don't trust or believe any of them. Not China. Not Russia. Not the New York Times.
sorry alex to blow your bubble ... wrong again, as in ivermectin you seem stuck on your position.
China is a big country. by the very definition, the head of a NGO does not present the government or the party. i would pay attention to ministry of foreign relations - their department of state, if there is a signal will come from there, not some nongovernmental body on human rights. read more on china.
Please stop posting about Ukraine. If I wanted the neocon perspective I could tune into the MSM. Stick to corona journalism. Stay away from Ukraine punditry.
Somehow the west will find a way to save Putin and get more cash to China while importing millions more illegals.
It’s all about The Great Reset. Obama took out the duly elected president and put in Zelensky. He is a puppet for the World Economic Forum. In fact, a Junior leader. Check out his boy band video in four inch stilettos and black leather. DISGUSTING!!! Russia took out the Bio Labs. Video of 2016, then VP Biden refused to leave Ukraine without the prosecutor getting fired. Only then would UK receive US money. He was investigating Hunter and the Biden family. Ukraine has largely been infiltrated by the Nazi’s. Look at the connection between the Rothchilds and UK. Project Mockingbird says to focus on the UK boarder and forget about Covid and ours boarder. The sex trafficking and human smuggling is off the charts. And do not look at the cocaine that is laced with fentanyl which is flooding into our boarders straight from China. China good Russia bad!! All a BIG distraction!! The military complex is hard at work making more money. What does the Biden, Romney, Kerry and Pelosi families all have in common? Their kids work for the UK Oil Company. Wake up people!!!
I would never take the word of CCP-aligned writer at face value.
Alex, you are an attentive reader! Clearly, when Putin screws up, that news is fit to print, but when Washington screws up, that is misinformation and definitely not fit to print, except maybe several years later, when it is no longer sensitive...
Not sure how you can possibly think writing an op-ed in the NYTimes is how China would tell Russia to stop, and not how China would tell the west, "hey, look we're trying."
Why are we reading anything from the NYT?
The war will continue to escalate and start to involve more parties outside of Russia and Ukraine. Be on the lookout for a false flag attack soon.
Maybe yes, maybe no. I swear I don’t know what is going on except I have never seen such one sided “war” coverage. Fox is 24/7 “we have to help Ukraine” and “Putin is satan” messaging. All the refugees look like they are calm and just going to work or something. If I were running for my life, I think I would look a little more stressed. Just like with covid, something is off. It’s tiresome having news outlets with a main goal of manipulating opinion. Especially when you suspect something sinister going on.
China doesn't need to use a NYT op-ed to communicate its displeasure (or anything else for that matter) to Russia. They have direct channels.
Why would China choose to publish this in the NYT? Consider the NYT audience: the American elite. That is who this message is intended for, not Russia. It's likely a hedge, or delaying tactic.
Yes, the CCP is giving warnings to Russia via the NYT. 😒
Meanwhile, their official state declarations refuse to call this an invasion, they already knew about it and asked Putin to make his move after the Olympics and they're offering Russia new trade deals and card processing.
Yep, this is a warning alright lmao
Alex you simply don't know much at all about geopolitics. Even less about the situation in Ukraine.
Stick to the excellent work you have done elsewhere- here you are about as far off the mark as possible.
Long but worth it some informative comments as well:
https://thesaker.is/the-russian-military-intervention-in-the-ukraine-a-macro-view/
How reliable is NYT for reporting information disparaging Russia?
That's not how I read it
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/
No such thing as an NGO in China.
But I'm sure Dementia Joe will take the credit if this thing ends.
More like Finish the job! What’s taking so long? Look for Russia to put the choke hold on to force Ukraine to tap out. No pretend victories for the West in this one.
Biden professes to wanting to avoid WW3, yet everything he has done from Day One is putting us on the path to global war. The Dem Party corruption is so deep it is destroying the US. It is apparent that the ongoing payments to the Biden family while Joe was in office with Obama, and with Hillary running around the world accepting bribes for her foundation, that these people are simply minions for their foreign paymasters. BTW Clintons want to restart their Foundation. The corruption is complete.
Sorry but stop watching CNN or reading MSNBC and check alternatives like ASB Military News on GAB/Telegram: Slowly but surely, the Russians are winning - give it a few more weeks...
In the mean time - how about taking about those biolabs in the Ukraine and what is going on in them???
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/covid-missing-ukraine-biolabs-memes
I believe the most important conclusion we can make concerning recent events is that the Biden/Obama regime is already a puppet of the CCP.
Whether or not they are too stupid to realize it or too evil and self centered to care is the only question.
I’m sure we all hope this writer’s advice is heeded…. By all parties involved. Perhaps in the future, the Ukrainians will realize when the going gets tough, the puppet masters cut and run. I edit this to make clear (as if anyone is actually reading this) that I fully support US and NATO ‘s refusal to poke the bear too much. I just hope those suffering the most, the Ukrainian citizens themselves, understand this tragedy that the ruling elites of all countries, including their own, and the controlled media, got them into.
Right, right. So, let me get this straight: In order to get a message to Putin, China needs to have one of its thought leaders pen an Op/Ed in the NYT. They couldn't just pick up the phone or send a text message. China's preferred medium is the NYT.
Or, is it that they want naive Americans to think they're telling Putin to back down?
All this double-reverse psychology really is confusing.
Alex continues to discredit himself by regurgitating NYT propaganda on Ukraine. That is going to hurt your credibility in general Alex. You should stop. I mean that in the kindest way. You have no clue what you're talking about here and it makes you appear sloppy, unprofessional and incompetent. Its going to undermine your good reporting on Covid. You are doing more damage to yourself than any blues ever could by acting as a megaphone for their BS.
Due diligence? Nah. He is a Harvard University Kennedy School Fellow. No conflict there. He does not speak for the chinese gov and he is one guy from a country of over 1 billion. I'm sure NYT can find someone to hold any view from China, especially a Harvard fellow.
China will not support Russia's "economic burden." China needs Russia's raw materials. Russia (unlike china) is close to autarky. China is completely dependent on foreign markets and foreign energy and raw supplies. The economic slowdown and increase in pricing of raw materials will hurt China, likely more than russia, because as food and gas prices increase, available discretionary income for all the stuff china makes falls and everything china makes becomes more expensive.
https://ash.harvard.edu/people/huiyao-wang
I doubt China communicates with Putin via NYT. More likely this is a bit of virtue signaling for American consumption. Uighur genocide? Hong Kong repression? Don't worry, we'll help with those weally weally bad rabbits, eh, Russians.
LMAO, you are quoting the NYT. You'd have more credibility quoting the National Enquirer.
Not a single quote from a high ranking Chinese official.
If China wanted to send a message to Russia, they would have picked up the phone.
Alex is correct. It's a message, not mere "opinion." Those commenting here that there are no true NGOs in China - so that this couldn't have been published other than at CCP's directive - are also correct. The only questions are the exact nature of the message(s) and the intended audience(s). I haven't read the whole piece because I certainly don't pay to subscribe to and support the Times. But it's of course not impossible for a message to have multiple intended audiences and also to be crafted in such a way that certain audiences hear what they "need" to hear and others hear what they want to hear. It seems logical to me that Putin is being told to "wrap it up or else" and everyone else is being told "see, we are trying to help (and don't forget we're the only ones who can)".
I love how they say his think tank is "nongovernmental," as if that is actually possible under the CCP
Russia’s economic isolation does give China leverage.
More nonsense from the useful idiot who actually believes the Bidet’s regime lies about the chemical and biological weapons in has been working on the the neo Nazi country Ukraine.
The NYT's....really?
Don't believe anything they say. Believe what they do.
First thoughts after learning tweeter was a “globalist NGO”: #Soros #CFR #WEF #GreatNarrative #NWO AND #StopTechnocracy
So I’m not a geopolitical analyst like everyone else on the internet but I don’t think people understand how bad kicking Russia out of the system is for the US. China and Russia have positioned for this for years.
https://faybomb.substack.com/p/crazy-like-a-fox?s=w
https://faybomb.substack.com/p/russia-swift-and-the-urgent-need?s=w
China needs Russian energy.
“Opinion piece”. Opinion……
It isn't time to "declare victory and go home" until the following three things happen, after an UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER by the Zelenskyy government - the (US sponsored) coup regime made Ukraine's bed, and now the regime must sleep in it - and their Ukrainian citizen victims will, unfortunately have to accept the results of the regime's folly: 1) Ukraine changes its constitution to establish itself as a neutral country and to remain FOREVER out of NATO, 2) the majority of the (self declared neo-nazi) Azov Battalion are dead, or completely neutralized (meaning dead) - they pose a threat not only to Ukraine but to the whole world, and 3) Crimean self determination to join Russia and the sovereignty of the Donbas regions of Donesk and Luhank both receive FULL recognition from Kiev. Anything less makes this horrible war, where the Ukrainian people have been tossed as valueless pawns in Western imperialism, of no permanent value.
This is off topic but I'm hoping someone in this group can help me. My 18 year old nephew was having heart arrhythmia. He had Covid in February 2021. He got the jab for college by my sister in laws insistence even after I urged her to try for a religious exemption. His doctor wants to do a full workup because she's rightly worried about myocarditis etc. The problem is, she is attributing his issue to his Covid infection from 13 months ago. His vaccination was in October and November. I have been searching all over and the studies that big tech will let me find try to say heart issues are more prevalent in post Covid infections vs. post vaccination. Even the study in Nature leaves out the bit how people in the post Covid group with higher rates of myocarditis than the post vaccine group were ALSO vaccinated. Instead of blaming the vaccine, they blame the infection. Does anyone have any real data I can show this doctor??? It seems like common sense to me that he had no issue for many months then gets jabbed and NOW has issues. Everyone in this group is well versed on how the vaccine overloads your body with the spike. That doesn't occur in the same way with natural infection. How do these doctors not see the issue?
I don't want these people to get away with their bullshit by blaming the virus when it's pretty freaking clear it was the vaccine that caused this.
The truce is near anyways and China stepping in to take credit.
Alex, that means nothing. Of course Dr Huiyao has a Global interest and he may be pushing for this. But there are multiple forces in China. They are not all in line with Dr Huiyao wishes.
Watch what the Chinese do, not what they say. The Chinese stand to benefit greatly by the sanctions placed on Russia over their move into Ukraine, and the price Russia is paying vis a vis the West over this move makes any cessation of Russian military action fruitless without a Ukranian pledge not to join NATO and not have ballistic missiles positioned in Ukraine.
The Chinese are being coy and shrewd as is their nature in foreign policy, seeking to appease the West publicly while moving forward with the opportunity now presented to group half the world's people under a new alternative de-dollarized world finncial system. They recognize that they still need access to Western consumer markets to sell their exports in the short-run while the move to create the new financial system in the East satisfies their long-term objectives.
Which all means that while they will pay lip service to the Western objectives to box in Russia from the West, they will continue to support the trade and currency arrangements with Russia that lead to a new Eastern de-dollarized financial system. And they know the US and Western powers have no say in this matter, as they do not have the manufacturing capabilites to offset an embargo of Chinese imports into their countries, and any attempt to significantly curtail those imports would lead to the Western financial armadgeddon wrought by the resultant Chinese liquidation of the 5+ trillion in dollar-based securities investments that China presently holds.
This kind of liquidation would not have mattered to the West in the past as their Central banks would have printed the money to buy these securities. But the new structural dollar- and Euro-based inflationary paradigm that has taken hold around the world due to a tripling in US debt during the last 14 years has tied the hands of Central Bank money creation for the foreseeable future. 5 trillion in dollar-based securities liquidation would collapse Western financial markets now, leading to a debasement of Western currencies, and untenable monetary inflation well above what is currently being experienced.
In the aggregate, it is in both Russian and Chinese interests to see the war in Ukraine continue, which is why it will until either the present government or the one that the Russia installs in Ukraine cedes to the Russian demands.
It is amazing that americans don't read and apply Sun Tzu. All war is based on what?
Thanks Alex for a morsel of hope on this Sunday of Lent. I don't care who stops Putin just so it happen soon. China will take the credit either way.
BTW I just read a new Covid variant is on the way...Deltacron. Now the viruses are combining in victim's bodies and forming something worse?
Does this cancel out Biden telling them a small invasion was okay?
Alex, You're a CCP propaganda pawn now. It's a very bad look. You're putting the most evil regime on a pedestal. The CCP is waging unrestricted warfare against the USA, including murdering millions of our young people with fentanyl. Shame on you.
I am officially skeptical of everything. Whatever the motivation for this it's not peace and prosperity for Ukraine or any where else.