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I love being in the control group of this very interesting experiment.

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I am happy to be in the control group too but the problem is that many people who I love are in the vax experiment. I am sure that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has refused the vax who doesn't have people they care about who got the shots. So as happy as I am to be in the control group, I hope more than anything at this point that the vaccine is safe.

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Hope is not a strategy.

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Covid VAX die-off coming over next three years...effects becoming really apparent within next 10 months. "Hope" in of itself is useless.

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How could you possibly know this? Just stfu.

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This 1,000+

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Go to the Frontline doctor’s website to get advice on how to treat his illness. Going to a hospital now is Ill advised according to the testimony today with doctors.

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I’ve advised him. Thank you. Ron Johnson’s forum today was excellent!

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The forum was riveting. Does anyone know where to find the video? I have been looking. Surely it is somewhere. Find it. Watch it. Share it

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Link at today's substack post from The FLCCC Alliance Community

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Is your husband willing to listen?

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Somewhat, very stubborn pharmacist, caught up in chemistry, not politics. I twisted his arm , listened to Malone on Joe Rogan, spread that all over the golf course where we live, I’m dropping crumbs like Hansel and Gretel….

Last year’s Conspiracy theories are this years Truth Bombs. Right?

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Hospitals are a leading cause of covid death in the U.S.A.

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As someone once said, “is this the hill you want to die on “

Obviously not.

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Actually Alan, if this is the hill I die on, so be it. I Will NOT capitulate my principles, or my Faith for anyone or anything.

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I only commented because I thought you had reached an accommodation either with your husband or with yourself. Kudos for your courage.

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Thank you! If you don’t stand for something with everything you’ve got at some point in your life… your life is meaningless. But, that’s just me. Stay 😃 Happy.

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You are a very impressive person ✔️

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I don't want to die on any hill at all, truth be told. But I am WILLING to die on the hill of fighting these forced vaccines. Abso-fucking-lutely.

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Kinda is. No hill exists beyond this one.

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

Wishing you both a favorable outcome.

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Thank you.

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I’d turn back the clock if I could. I had neurological side effects after second dose and am now refusing a booster, despite my university mandating them. I will resign a tenured professor job if I have to.

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This is heartbreaking. I am so sorry this happened to you.

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I’m so sorry to hear that. I have a dear friend whose Parkinson’s was exacerbated after first shot, almost immediately. Sadly, for some God forsaken reason she got a second shot and a booster! Hang in there, Denmark, there is a light at the end of every tunnel. All will be revealed.

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Thank you. People like you (my significant other is doing the same, though in a major corporation) WILL end this insanity. This gives you a great excuse to talk fearlessly with your peers. Surely we're close to a tipping point. It seems clear that the majority are highly skeptical of boosters at this point.

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My sister and a friend this week said they are done. No booster

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My husband managed to get an “exemption” (which is more of an “Affidavit of Antibodies/T-Cell/Lymphocytes”) that his college employer accepted, but he will have to start weekly testing tomorrow (even though they’re starting the semester all online again). But I insisted he retire rather than submit to the shot if he didn’t get the exemption: he already suffers from a progressive neurological disease and TBI from an infection over a decade ago. Heavens knows what that shot might do to him!

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Make them fire you , then sue

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And that is why the vaccine cabal wanted you vaccinated. They want no data to compare. Just like clinical trial when they gave placebo group the vaccine to hide adverse effects.

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Exactly. Unheard of in clinical trials before this! And the FDA STILL approved Pfizer. That is when I stopped trusting the FDA. I am now questioning all prior approvals.

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For the past several years most approvals were fast tracked. Money and politics have so corrupted our systems.

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I LOOOOVVVE being in the control group. I mean despite all the rancor and even a couple of rude names I've been called and the superiority complex of the vaxxed, I L O V E being in the control group!!!

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Same. I’m thankful for the support from a few family members as we remain in control group but it is causing trouble with my kids now that my daughter is getting married in 2 weeks. I’m the selfish one! They are so fearful and brainwashed.

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I was just told by my teenage daughter that I think I’m smarter than everyone else. I think my talk about these vaxxes was part of this whole thing. The brainwashing is so horrible. The communists love to steal the children away

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They are definitely stealing them. I haven’t seen my son in 3 years and he won’t stay with us when he comes for the wedding. I cried for 2 days. I’m so disappointed. Makes me want to fight harder though. Just wish I had been awake long ago.

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That’s the only upside of all of this evil. People waking up. I have a friend who I never would have dreamed would become a conservative. She now plans on running for state rep now that she sees what’s going on! Good luck with your son. It hurts the most when it’s someone to whom you devoted your life

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I love that your friend is putting her money where her red pilled mouth is! WONDERFUL! I hope she wins her election!

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Thanks. It’s very hard to understand. My world stops for him when he visits.

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I have a daughter expecting our first grandchild in June. She is in Canada. I won't be able to go. She believes the unvaccinated are the problem, not the totalitarian demands. So sad.

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Very sad. My heart would be broken.

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Jan 24, 2022·edited Jan 24, 2022

I would love to be a part of the control group, too; but unfortunately that's not what we are. A control group is included and actively studied as a part of the experiment, and the comparisons that come from the control arm are crucial in our quest to understand things. Unfortunately not only are we not being included, we are being actively suppressed.

That should tell people everything they need to know.

(but as a sentiment, I'm with you! I'm not some humorless killjoy. At least I'd like to think I'm not. . .)

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I know that! I have a pharmacy/ pharmacist background, we purebloods are a loosely formed control group! I’m happy, healthy and free. Gotta get back to my kickboxing and my margarita. Enough Science.

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WendeAnne, just curious how you knew not to take the shot. So many pharmacists/nurses/health care etc are vigilant about taking it. What made you different, do you think?

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Experience, my husband and I owned 5 clinical pharmacies, I also worked in Big Pharma for 22 years,(4 different companies) left Glaxo with a nice parachute and never looked back. I could write a book and I should! The corruption and lies, the marketing budgets, the payoffs etc.

Black box warnings, recalls, paying off HMOs to get on formularies.

Never trust A Pharma company…. Never.

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Please write your book, WendeAnne! An insider's expose of the corruption.

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Ha! I need a keyboard warrior, someone that can type as fast as I speak. Lol

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Indeed all one needs to know is that Pfizer was hit by the largest penalty for criminal fraud in history.

WASHINGTON – American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together "Pfizer") have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products, the Justice Department announced today.

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

I'm doing my own experiment based on empirical data. When everyone is lying it is the only thing to do

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Yes…I am a participant of the Vaccine Control Group www.vaxcontrolgroup.com Became a member last September and report in every month. I even have an official participant ID card. Although I haven’t tried to use it anywhere yet…

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just curious who is behind that group .... an "about us" section would be useful

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The Control Group is a citizen funded cooperative formed for the purpose of collecting the health data of the voluntarily vaccine free as the control group to the SARS-CoV-2 vaccinated. It is our intention to use the stratified data* to demonstrate the health outcomes of the control group, in comparison to the SARS-CoV-2 vaccinated by having it analysed and presented publicly by independent scientists and doctors.

The control group is worldwide and open to anyone who has not been vaccinated for SARS-CoV-2. You can participate for free, but we encourage participants to subscribe as funding Associates to ensure this project can continue to run as a long-term study.

As a cooperative, our funding Associates are encouraged to guide us in steering this project forward and expanding ways we can legally protect the freedoms of the vaccine free community and prevent medical discrimination.

The Control Group community is our support network, which has a large presence on Telegram and is building resources to support the vaccine free around the world. We are doing this with love to protect the future of our families, children, friends, neighbours and all of humanity: https://t.me/joinchat/zY5O0WRXMDcyYmNk

We are an affiliate of the World Council for Health.

Control Group Cooperative Limited is a registered legal company at Companies House (UK) with the Reg No: 13477806

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I love this idea but my paranoid self says signing up could be used against me at some point if this info got into the wrong hands. Give me some slack here- I live in Chicago so my paranoia has valid roots.

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Years ago, a friend and I went to a Tea Party rally. We just went to listen. Within a few months, our business got audited. I never said anything. My friend also got audited. Related?

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I was thinking the same thing!! They’d have a list of everyone the need to round up at some point.

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Agree. Don’t get involved in any of this. Nothing.

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Depends on the situation. If matters get dystopian enough, the fact you are NOT on some participant database will be noted, more importantly than the perhaps overlooked fact you were on some resistance movement's membership list. There is a price for remaining silent, going along to get along. There is a price for being brave enough to speak out or take other rebellious action. Again, if the situation deteriorates enough, it won't matter that you were a faithful acolyte of The Movement when you are selected to be the next sacrificial victim.

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Yes. Resistance is not futile.

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Just signed up, thank you for telling us about it

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How do you report in? I’m confused on that one! I’m due!

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Enjoy watching the carnage? I've put six in the ground since July. And yesterday another was found dead in her driveway. I'm waiting to hear there was mysteriously no cause of death so i can confirm another to the poison prick! I don't know about you WendeAnne but short of making recommendations I'm doing everything I can to educate people. I've made T shirts with pithy messaging that I wear everyday. I talk to those who will listen. And I try to ask questions that might provoke them to think critically and maybe ask themselves questions. I've been saying we are witnessing the greatest crime against humanity and the worst hasn't even started yet. I don't enjoy any of this. In fact I'm scared to death at what's to come and what I will have to do to protect my family.

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Actually Steve, I don’t enjoy any of this. I’m not sure what you do for a living or what your part is in all of of this, as we all have something to contribute. I choose the high road, it’s not my place to lecture. I’ve done the best I can, I wish everyone the best, I love everyone that I can, I pray for the best outcome and I live my best life. Love the best you can, and remember fear is the killer.

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I spent 13 years in the army. Combat veteran Iraq (100% disabled). 25 years in mental health, 17 as a DMH Case Manager. I just finished watching https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html Maybe I'm a little stressed out. I apologize.

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We so appreciate you and all those who have sacrificed for our freedoms. We may not say it often and/or loud enough but please know that we are out here.

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You are right. You are brave to sound the alarm. Keep it up.

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Thank you for your service and patriotism! Looking for a screen printed mask to wear when I travel that reads: “Useless” and then wear sweatshirt or T-shirt that has either a little picture of the label on surgical mask boxes stating they do not block coronavirus OR a diagram with side by side comparison enlarged of an enlarged particle labeled as 3 microns and a smaller particle a third of the size labeled as 1 micron. Underneath the diagram “Surgical masks can block particles 3 microns in size. Corona Virus cells are 1 micron. That’s 300% smaller making the mask 100% useless against SARS-CoV-2”

Or something like that. I feel like such a fool complying to mask mandates but I must travel for work and wear while in most airports and airplanes. I am interested in purchasing some of your merch!

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I wish I was able to start a company. I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm just a slouch on the couch making designs on my phone and using "rush order T's". The shirt I just made is a screen shot of the VAERS website page with the big red boxes with deaths, heart attacks, miscarriages and so on. I added a couple of highlights for effect. People who are too lazy to go to the website will see it on me. 😉

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I’m with you WendeAnne. Control group all the way. (BTW. Thanks for sharing your pharmacy background!)

Allow me to add my anecdotal experience to the discussion. I just got the Ro for my 59th birthday this weekend. Barely 24 hours of mild flu like symptoms. Undeniably positive from a home test kit at least. Wife had it last week. Her cough is lingering. Mine is non-existent. Already feeling recovered and my + test was this morning.

Can’t be to careful though…excuse me while I get more vitamin C. Ah, here it is, an IPA that is “naturally hazy with juicy notes of citrus.”

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I swear by Blue Moon with a slice of Florida Orange 🍊, I’m glad you are well.

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Oh that’s good too. Even more Vit C.

Thanks! Can’t wait to hit the gym again.

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I love not caring and winding people up who do....

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It's one of my favourite things in life too.

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I love being in the control group, too. But it seems that Costco wants to represent me as not being in the control group. My online medical chart shows that I received 2 doses of the Moderna shots last summer. My doctor and physician assistant said they didn't do it and were unable to remove it. They said I have to get the local Costco pharmacy to remove it since they are the ones that pushed it into my medical file. I suspect this is fraud driven by government incentives to get the vaxxed numbers up to support the narrative. Is this a common fraud? Is there a way to hold Costco accountable for doing this, or at least for allowing it to happen?

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Hold on Tonto! You just might wanna keep that status just the way it is. Seems to me their corruption may just be a blessing in disguise. If you get my drift.

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I am not sure “love” expresses the exact feeling. Nor sufficient sarcasm.

Is this an episode of McHales Navy or M.A.S.H.?? SNAFU.

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Nice use of SNAFU in its original military context!

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Especially since the Pfizer control group was disbanded just as the VE was getting interesting.

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Ditto.

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Gee, it almost seems as if the so-called vaccines should've been rigorously tested, and over a time period measured in years rather than weeks.

But that's just me.

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Where was the INFORMED consent? I feel I was lied to. All the risks (from lack of testing) were NOT explained.

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There is none. There’s no Package insert either. So… there you go.

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And also zero mention of potential and actual side effects when they run advertisements or PSAs for the vaxxes. By contrast, EVERY other commercial for ANY drug spends at least half if not three-quarters of the commercial time telling us about the side effects.

But the Chinese virus "vaxxes"? Nope, not even one word of side effects is breathed.

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The advertisements are not actually directly from the Pharma Companies, because they are not approved, they are investigational drugs, what you see on TV are public service announcements, they are not actually from the Drug companies, don’t be fooled. What you are seeing is bought and paid for by the drug companies, its back door advertising.

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Big Pharma Super PACs

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They are investigational drugs… nothing you see on Lester Holts TV break applies. They can’t advertise drugs that are not FDA approved. What you are seeing are Public Service Announcements ! Wake up.

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Usually you get a print out of the vaccine purpose and potentially side effects and severe side effects. But with this absolutely nothing (at least my husband didn't get anything in April/May 2021 when he got the shot...I'm a pureblood).

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Like I said, there’s no PI.

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Helluva point

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You are correct. There are, in fact, FDA regulations for emergency approvals. But they are "non-binding recommendations." There are recommendations for obtaining a patient's informed consent that for example, they are receiving an emergency product or service, that it may have unknown and unknowable side effects, etc. Clearly, in the most dire emergency situations it would be difficult to impossible to do such counseling or obtain consent. But for the so-called Covid-19 "emergency," it is an egregious breach of medical ethics to do (and still do!) what they've been doing. But there is (to my knowledge) no LEGAL requirement that such informed consent be obtained, and besides, it would reduce efficiency and cut into profits.

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that makes to much sense and would have been far to wise

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And would've run counter to everything they were trying to accomplish - subvert an election, exercise latent totalitarian instincts, reap billions in profits. IOW, it was *never*, ever about public health.

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And far less profitable

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THAT is the point -- its all about profit

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Big Pharma exists first to turn a profit and only secondarily as a benefit to mankind.

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You are correct. As a Capitalism apologist, allow me to make a few points: There is nothing wrong with (honest) profits. But if those profits come at the cost of co-opting and compromising traditional scientific method, proofs of safety and efficacy, and so on, that should be unacceptable. But that's precisely what's happened, and it happened long before the mRNA "vaccines." A second, and perhaps even more important point: if no profit is allowed, under what incentive would anyone go through the very expensive and time consuming process to invent, research, test and bring to market new products or services?

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What is the purpose of your name?

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I hope it's all only about profit. There is still a part of me that wonders about the interest of the Klaus/Gates/etc. kind of people about depopulation.

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It’s about the broken financial system

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Pharma did t need clinical trials. Government gave green light with scant data which actually was quite negative. All of them knew these vaccines would never get us to herd immunity. They knew all this would happen and thus assured themselves of boosters forever. See Pfizer comments today and Fauci.

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The best gift the gov't gave was the liability protection.

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zero long term data on these injections too

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hence those now injected ARE the experiment

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You and the entire medical establishment for the past 40 years. But suddenly, “oh let’s just forget all about safety protocols in drug R&D and make EVERYONE the phase 2 study cohort.” Huh.

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but that wouldn't bail out pfizer and maderna financially

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This. Has. Never. Been. About. A. Virus.

Never.

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"I just tested negative for living in fear." I Love it! I'm saying that as soon as I get to work today! It's going to go over like a fart in church! 🤣

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BAM 💥

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Preach. And it won’t stop when this Covid but falls apart.

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In these days of an insane world at times, the tranquility, peace, and honesty of Berenson ' corner of the world brings everything into focus and brings you back to what's real.

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I don’t agree with him on everything. There are many pieces to this puzzle and no one person can figure it all out.

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You are "cherry picking." Make some pie. Eat it hot with ice cream. Maybe it will improve your mood.

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I've seen so many anecdotes from people I respect claiming benefits from IVM, that it sure feels like data to me.

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Though I guess one could argue that these anecdotes should be censored. For our safety.

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They would stop it if this was about a virus or saving lives. It's never been. It doesn't get more brazen than this. President of the EU, Ursula Von Der Leyen said this last week: "building on vaccine passports technology, every EU citizen and resident in the Union will be able to use a personal digital identity wallet".

It's always been about the data passports and getting 100% of the population enrolled.

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Jan 24, 2022·edited Jan 24, 2022

You know it is nefarious when they are marketing "The Great Reset" to your kids on Sesame Street.

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Holy shit!

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😳unbelievable

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What? When? What episode?

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Not sure. I saw a clip.

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What you are witnessing in Israel, and elsewhere is slow motion genocide. NWO Plot in Action.

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I bet the Brits are glad they bailed out of the EU.

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no kidding!

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Unfortunately Johnson apparently just slipped something similar into proposed legislation (digital health passes) while he was announcing the end of Covid restrictions, not sure it will matter.

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I hope they have the sense to shoot it down.

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Interesting how profoundly they bailed too. No country near as profound or as quick!

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Right CJ! Forest for the trees people...

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Many people have been screaming this for a week now, yet every other commercial on TV is telling me to give this garbage to my kids.

Half the country still thinks these vaxxes stop the spread. It will be absolutely impossible to convince them about the data From these countries. They hand wave this stuff away as “conspiracy nuts on substack.”

You are a hero for what you are doing, but half the country will never believe us.

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You know their was a problem coming down the pike when Pfizer started running commercials trying to make themselves look caring and concerned.

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BINGO! When I see an ad that isn't even FOR anything, just 'Look how caring we are', I know the shit is piled deep. One example that sticks out is Haliburton running ads about how they are connecting soldiers to home via video calls.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Q-89tAV34

This isn't the exact one I remember, but you get the idea.

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I find it amusing to look at @pfizer on Twitter to see them get mocked by the various wits who see through their smokescreen of caring concern.

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didn't bp do the same thing when they leaked oil into the gulf under obamma?

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Bingo!

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Come to think of it...I've never seen a Pfizer ad on TV. That is until the last month or so. I've seen hundreds of other Pharma Ads and they get more nauseating as time goes by. The Pfizer Ads are just like the Health.Gov ads. Lots of shining happy people. Almost everything now on TV is propaganda.

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RFK Jr. in his Fauci book, notes that Pharma wasn't even allowed to advertise on TV before 1997 (IIRC). In earlier years, news media would sometimes do unfavorable exposes of pharma disasters, like the 1976 swine flu vaccine, or bad drugs. Clearly, that has faded if not vanished since 1997. Wouldn't want to alienate a major paying advertiser, now would we? Similar articles in "print" media have mysteriously vanished from archives. It's odd, but one might almost get the impression that mass media wants to bury any information, current or historical, that would paint big pharma in a bad light.

I will have to take you at your word about the TV ads. I would sooner gouge my own eye out with a red hot poker™ 🤪 than watch TV these days. And many days gone by, I might add!

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Yep & IF they see/hear about this data from Denmark, Israel & Australia, they'll say it's because not enough ppl are jabbed AND boosted. smh

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They will not read or listen. Just call you a name. It's true. They are so conditioned to stay in their ideological silo they can no longer think. They believe vaccines can stop the spread and diversity is our strength.

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As Sam Harris jokes, substackistan. And with that simple label, no need to look at anything that challenges his corporate media views on covid.

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Jan 26, 2022·edited Jan 26, 2022

They have Sotomayor Syndrome (SS) and its highly contagious as we have seen!

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I'd say the number of people who will stick with the script in the face of obvious evidence to the contrary is far less than half the country. It is a substantial number but it isn't half.

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Anyone listening to Senator Johnson’s meeting today would wholeheartedly agree. Eye opening.

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Fully available on Rumble to watch if you have not. It's LONG, but incredible panel of minds!

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Every human needs to watch that whole 5 hours.

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So worth it

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Watched the Washington Rally yesterday (3 hours). It was very well done!

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

I think Johnson should run as DeSantis' VP in 2024. He's just about the only one in Washington with ANY integrity (along with Rand Paul).

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Bongino did a nice piece on it and played some clips today on his video show. Check it out here.

https://bongino.com/ep-1691-stunning-video-from-a-covid-hearing-exposes-the-hard-truth

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Awesome

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The vaccine is the disease

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Vaccine wasn't for Covid. Covid was made for the vaccines

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Jan 24, 2022·edited Jan 24, 2022

Because the FLU wasn't "scary" enough to herd the Sheople.

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slight of hand for sure!

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Read Tom Clancy's 1998 novel Rainbow Six. That is exactly the plot

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The vaccine causes "Type II COVID".

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My mom is one of the few 75+ seniors who is not vaccinated. Early on, I told her it was her choice, but that I wasn't going to be vaccinated until I had more long-term data to review. But she is in the risk age group (she's very healthy for 75+, mobile, lives in a guest house on my property but that's to save money not because of health). She was going to get the one-shot J&J but couldn't find it through her medical group, so she waited. And then I started reading more (about April 2021) and her brother wanted her to get the vaccine so she started thinking about it again, and I told her while it was her choice, I didn't think she should do it -- and listed all the potential side effects that people had experienced. Plus, the fact that for the two weeks after vaccination, cases and hospitalizations INCREASE (yet the government calls those people "unvaccinated.") So she didn't get it. All our older relatives (all in California) are mad at her, and one told her if she visits she'll have to wear a mask (so my mom won't visit.) Two of them have emailed or called me to tell me to tell her to get it. But they wouldn't listen to me when I explain what the risks were. One literally believes that if my mom gets COVID, she will die and tried to make me feel guilty for not encouraging her to get the vaccine. (My mom has been exposed so many times -- at least 4 -- to people who has symptomatic COVID she is likely already immune.) Now I am super happy I didn't waffle. My cousin (my age -- 50) is a health nut, a runner, and her mother browbeat her into getting the vaccine and THEN she got COVID and was extremely sick for a week (no hospital).

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My vaccine-free parents both had covid last week. Both are fine. 70s and 80s.

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Glad they are fine after COVID. That has to feel good, knowing they got through the virus and now have immunity. Must be a relief.

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It is. We had ivermectin available if needed.

https://myfreedoctor.com/

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Are not accepting patients. Check back at 10am CST to see if any slots available.

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Family member in his late 60’s, a heart transplant recipient, diabetic, overweight, got the ‘ro before the vaxxes were available…he recovered just fine…no hospital

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

What?! Did you say the overweight and did not die after getting the china virus? Amazing as some if the shit stirrers that post here how being overweight and not "healthy" will be the reason you die from Covid.

*corrected auto spell check error

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My 80 year old mom choose not to get vaxed either!

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My MIL is 93, will not get the vax. Traveled with us to Florida for a month. Travels to other states frequently. We do keep her somewhat out of public places but we are not extreme about it. She's totally fine and will probably outlive me.

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My mom is 90 and unvaxxed.

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👏👏! My Mom is 78, same story, very healthy, no meds! I strongly advised against the investigational drug because I know too much, she’s happy, healthy, takes a few supplements I ordered for her and she’s watching everyone around her become sick with COVID, die or have side effects! I handled it exactly like you did and my Mom Thanks me!

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I love hearing this. These are the same people who actually had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, and more. Their immune systems are properly primed.

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Exactly.

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

Wish I had known that before I eventually caved in and got two of the Pfizer death shots. Have had all of those that you list. (So mad at myself!)

*edit corrected typo.

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69 and 78 vaccine free no covid as far as we know

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My 93yo (and sickly) great aunt got Covid - fevers, trouble breathing. Fortunately the hospital turned her away. She's fine now.

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That's such wonderful news. Yeah, she wouldn't have survived the hospital.

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Goal Number One for ALL of us is very simple:

**AVOID THE HOSPITAL AT ALL COSTS.**

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You could get a weak strain, you can get a tough strain, you might get nothing at all. But you should have meds at home for your mother and hope she doesn’t need it. Sevencells.com worked for us for our parents

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We got the vid in Sept. Had the flccc protocol on hand.

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True, and I have most of what we need on hand, plus a number of a doctor who prescribes HQC or Ivermectin if needed. But I really think that because we all had it in early 2020, that if we get it again it won't be that bad. (I was completely wiped out for 3 days -- fever, dry cough, no taste, extreme fatigue. Then 2 days of just feeling achy and exhausted. The latest -- unconfirmed but likely omicron -- was just a cold and mild upper respiratory ickiness.) I take regular high-quality multi-vitamin + iron daily plus Vitamin D, Zinc, Querertin (sp???), Vitamin K (3x week), fish oil.

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Can you mention the brand name? I have been researching to find out what the ones are for best quality and ability for the body to absorb.

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Thank you for the link. Question for anyone...what is a reasonable price for ivermectin? There are a lot of options out there!

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I want to say that SevenCells.com was more expensive than another mail order pharmacy we used, but they have all gone up in price. When I put orders through for my parents it was really helpful for it to be one-stop-shopping. Going teleheath then to an online pharmacy was too many steps. Also I like their early treatment pack b/c you also get a zpack a steroid and another anti-viral/anti-parasitic. When we were sick we couldn’t get those other meds and they may have made us more comfortable.

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Yes, I can see that...plus the cost of the telehealth is an additional cost on top of meds. Thank you!

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That info is hard to come by at the moment. It used to be very inexpensive, but no more. I think the best approach right now is to try to order it from a source inside the U.S. (almost regardless of cost, unfortunately), preferably locally if possible, as I think orders from other countries are being confiscated.

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Thank you. I've heard the same about international orders 😞

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Yep. I have an order floating around somewhere out there. Will never see it, I'm sure. If you happen to have a local doc (often a naturopath or other "alternative" practitioner) who has a compounding pharmacy on site (or a local pharmacy he works with), that might be a solution as well.

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Great idea! My neighbor (very like minded) has a couple of alternate practitioners she uses so I'll reach out to her. Thank you!

That's horrible your order is "lost" ....truly sad and discouraging times for free thinkers and those who value freedom.

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My mom is 89 and vax free. We both got the ro back in January of '21. No taste or smell, but no testing either. I got hold of FLCCC and got IVM, HCQ, and we were taking all the supplements. We made it with no problems other than exhaustion and the lack of taste and smell.

She was especially high risk because she was a nurse and got TB back in the 50's before there were antibiotics. They removed a quarter of her lung to treat it.

However, she's also been a nurse long enough to know that it's stupid to get a vax for a disease you've already had, so it wasn't hard at all to keep her from getting the jab.

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My mom is unvaccinated at 83. She has been skeptical of the whole narrative since day one. If asked directly, she will say she’s unvaccinated. Then we have a good laugh at the “recoil of horror.”

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Awesome. And you should laugh! We should be doing a lot more laughing at these ninnies!!!

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Awesome! God Bless her. She would love my Mom.

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Gert V was all over this as was Yeadon

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Sadly, they are justified.

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You’ll make new friends. And best yet, they will be like minded. Cut your losses now. I know that’s harsh.

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Friends are the family you choose. If your family chooses to walk away from you, you can't do anything about that. That is THEIR bad decision and one day (when my will is read, LOL) they will regret it. Although I do fully expect to outlive at least one of my younger brothers--maybe both of them, since both are jabbed.

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Yes - but for some of us - until now, my family has been very very tight-knit! They knew our stance on our kids in the past and it hasn't been an issue. Covid was something else. This has been pretty earth-shattering.

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I understand, really. I loved my other, normal brother. Except now, he's not "normal" either. He says he is only trying to protect his immune compromised wife--yet he is just fine with her going to work, as a TEACHER, in a classroom, at a school, with other teachers around. Yet if the great unwashed me offers a negative covid test from that same day, it's not good enough.

There's more to the story (I moved to FL a year ago and I never, ever hear from him, his wife or their kids even though I went out of my way to be super involved and supportive in all their endeavors), so this is just another reason to maintain distance. And, again, consider cutting his kids out of my will! I'd rather donate my estate to a charity I love than leave it to ungrateful nieces! (I don't have kids.)

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I can’t either.

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Right there with you :( even though my family is scared of me....

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OMG. Hopefully she won't line up for a fourth. (Hopefully they won't suggest a fourth.)

My SIL just got Covid despite her 3 shots. And is still scared to death of it, and unvaxed people. Sigh

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I hesitate to say this, but Joseph Mercola has been warning about the possibility of ADE for several months. He mentions it in his book The Truth about COVID-19, published last April. A lot of people regard Mercola as a kook, but I knew a woman who saw him while he was still practicing. He apparently cured her of several chronic problems; "he fixed me," she said.

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I'm one who has always thought Mercola was a kook long before COVID, but that doesn't mean he's wrong on everything, and there are several reputable people who have been talking about ADE for some time.

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ADE is exactly what is happening. Very predictable! I was preaching this a year ago.

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He is no kook. He's smeared because he calls the mainstream medical establishment out on their incompetence. My father was a physician, and I learned first hand how the hosptials, insurance agencies and medical boards have made it progressively harder to practice true medicine. I have no doubt he fixed your mom.

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ADE and/or OAS looking more and more likely

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What is ade and oas? Fill an Internet brutha in...

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“Antibody dependent enhancement” and “original antigenic sin” respectively — basically known medical phenomena where exposure to a virus (or in this case a vaccine) either results in the body generating poorly-targeted antibodies for subsequent infections by similar but mutated viruses, or compromises the immune system generally by allowing the virus to survive inside of cells and essentially hijack them to start replicating itself.

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Mind blown thank you

So basically a failure to provide protection for whatever you're trying to immunize against.

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

Even worse actually, OAS makes you more vulnerable to future infections generally and ADE can cause severe health complications by itself

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Is this the primary distinction between the two? I do not want to use them interchangeably if that is not correct

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Mercola definitely sensationalizes everything, but I have found his actual health advice to be very, very solid and helpful. He has been talking about vitamin D for years.

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Yep. Ignore the headlines on the articles and it's all good. The man knows his stuff.

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But the TV man is still telling me it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

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It’s a pandemic of bureaucrats.

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The Media is the Megaphone 📣 for the Democrats.

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And a Pandemic of stupidity

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that's being parroted by EVERY vaxxed person I know. Nauseating.

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They are delusional the elite media.

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100% agree. The Pharma companies write the script & pay off the politicians and thus it shall be done.

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Alex, please, pretty please. Don't ever call positive PCR or antigen test results "infections."

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THANK- YOU !!! hear hear!

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Alex is just a writer and has no idea about molecular biology. Like most non-biologists commenting on the fake pandemic, he joined the narrative.

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Extremely important point!

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I hate Fauci

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And Gates, and Big Pharma, and Schwab, and the petty little public health bureaucrats, and the MIC...I could go on.

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I might add I hate anyone meddling with human genetics like mRNA technology, because they're out of line.

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I hate the glorification of Jennifer Doudna, the inventor of crisper gene editing technology, too.

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

Damn!!! I was going to mention this exact same thing but thought I ought to keep it short.

WSJ had an issue with a lot of gush over Doudna and the Crispr gene editing she was so instrumental in. "Mission driven science" was what she, and the WSJ, were extolling. I read it and thought "mission driven the way the Manhattan Project was mission driven". Did none of the researchers stop to wonder if they were going too far? Was there concern for what the "science" might unleash? It doesn't seem so for Crispr but with nuclear bombs it's easier to see where mission driven might lead.

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Funny how many times a day I think that very same thing.

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Pfauci

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Fauxci

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and I have become completely put off by his compadre F. Collins...it is possible that he has been a wolf in sheep's clothing stretching way back before the pandemic. Anyone think that there's a strong contingent of trans-humanists in the public health service? Big Pharma and Big Tech? That might be another part of the endgame.

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The drive to boost/vax is a train that can not stop, too much money, reputation, and political power at stake. There is a concept called sticky intitution, where our elites are unable/unwilling to change due to political variables even though the conditions require it.

My primary care doctor argued with me for five minutes trying to get me to vax during my yearly checkup this week even when she KNEW I got the COVID last month. Why push it? I am a healthy 52 year old male with great blood work. Me and my wife have used the last two years to shed weight, we both had a goal of a BMI of 23. I got my referal for colon guard, and probably never see her again.

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She's a quack. Getting a shot after getting covid is very dangerous. One of my friends got strong armed into it and her blood pressure went crazy: went from 120/70 to all over the place, sometimes 170/90. Now she'll be on Losartan for the foreseeable future. You should fire that doc.

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I bet your doctor receives a "bonus" for each vaxxed patient.

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I believe you are correct on the stickiness. The systems that are at fault, corrupted, bought out in our country amount to a massive power structure that likely can’t be fixed. Hard to find a happy ending…

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good for you!!

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It's almost more than I can bear now to see a doctor. I've come to think they're dishonest, dull, and full of themselves.

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Here the thing, if she had suggested the COVID vax and I said no way. The conversation would have ended. I did not want to get into it, she WANTED to debate me and I just keep saying I already had it. I just wanted my colon guard scrip and what my blood work data.

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Please, can you clarify what the colon guard script is?

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Cologuard is an at home colon cancer screening test. You need a doctor’s order (prescription) to get one.

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My kids used to say the same thing about their chubby gym/phys education teachers…

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starting to look that way. that or OAS, or perhaps even some combination of the two.

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antibody dependent enhancement

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Jan 24, 2022·edited Jan 24, 2022

Unfortunately for humanity, their pattern has been to double down. Whether the motivations are conspiratorial in nature remain to be seen. It could just be a conspiracy of greedy, self-righteous morons, or something far sinister. Only time will tell.

For now, though, it appears that their solution is just like quicksand; the harder they flail the worse they make it. They think they're chasing down the surge, when in fact it appears they are *accelerating* the surge. Even if there was an honest enough person in government to make this analysis, they would be shouted down and no one would listen to them.

Sadly, in this case, it seems like we return once again to the same answer we've had for all of it so far: it will end when we say it ends. Enough people need to stop giving in to their fears and getting a shot every time they feel nervous.

Of this, though, I am not confident.

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Yep. To compound the problem my vaccinated friends’ blood pressure has gone so high that they’re just crazy nervous. More nervous than I’ve ever seen them before in my life. (And I’ve seen them in some pretty stressful situations before!)

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I think this is why they are lashing out at "the unvaxxed;" they are smack-dab on that spiky border somewhere between "bargaining" and "anger."

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Kerimere - Robert Malone described how extremely high blood pressure was one of his vaccine side effects.

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Yes, I'm sadly aware of that. Between the vascular events and cancers, sure is suspect.

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I too hear that symptom from many who have been vaxxed

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I have a vaccinated acquaintance, a woman who is 42, very healthy, she is an engineer, and a millionaire. Lives in Chicago. She is EXTREMELY depressed because of COVID worry. Like crying every day depressed. This is someone who should be on top of the world without a care in the world but finds herself hysterically crying every day. I truly do not have sympathy for this person in any way shape or form.

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Jan 25, 2022·edited Jan 25, 2022

Unfortunately (if she is white and liberal) she is right in the strike zone for Covid neuroticism, according to a Pew poll from March 2020, 39.7% of white liberal women aged 30-49 have been told by a health care provider that they have a mental health condition (source: https://mobile.twitter.com/ZachG932/status/1249764370458062850 — scroll down to bullet point 16 for that specific data point)

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Yep! White, liberal and miserable!

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Sad. Probably among the last to be red-pilled if ever.

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What? Are you implying that the days of White people living in million dollar homes in an exclusive subdivision, with signs saying "Black Lives Matter", "Hate has no home here" or for the current Democratic candidates, on the manicured lawn, are drawing to a close? Say it ain't so! 🤣

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Kinda turns out she has lots to cry about. Just not what she was anticipating.

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