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My son’s girlfriend is a D1 swimmer. The sad thing? these girls are hostages to scholarships and thus afraid to speak out.

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And shame on the corrupt NCAA for this. They are the weakest liars at the center afraid of 2% complaints while they ruin wonen.

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I would rephrase the sub heading: “Denying Reality Never Ends Well”

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Imagine if it's a hoax and this guy comes out and admits it. How embarrassing would that be for the institutions that fell for it?

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He (Lia) has a great gig right now - breaking swim records and getting to hang out in the women's locker room (lucky guy huh?) Is he just a sociopath working the system. . .

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It sure would be. He seems committed to it though. What will he say in 20, 40, or 60 years? And what will have been the health impacts? So much for studies being required.

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If he's not committed, he sure has a tiger by the tail.

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1/10 of 1% is more like it.

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Sometimes scholarships aren't worth perpetuating the lie. It takes courage and sacrifice to make things right. There's no excuse for taking the easy way. That's why this problem is as big as it is. People are too risk averse and "in the absence of courage, truth is an orphan." (Rob McCoy, pastor extraordinaire, Godspeak Calvary Church).

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This. This is the thing. We ALL need to do the uncomfortable things (lose a scholarship, change jobs, move, lose friends, make less money, whatever YOU need to do). All very uncomfortable and sad. But for godsakes do NOT just go along to get along and leave these injustices in place. They will NOT go away and they will only get worse. Seek truth.

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Agree 100%. We both thought we'd lose our jobs in the beginning but did not cave. We still have our jobs and of course that could change at any time. But we will not stand down. It's not easy. It's scary. We could lose everything. But it's my obligation to try to leave behind the same freedom we were afforded to our children and grandchildren.

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I recently put our family in a position where if I lose my job because of the idiot vaccine mandates or any of the other woke BS, my wife, who works for the Federal Government Accountability Office (apparently, not an oxymoron) will be able to provide for everything that we need. I don't want it that way but if I have to get a return on my "investment," i.e. taxes that I have paid so she can make her salary, that's the way it will be.

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I don't understand. Didn't the court of appeals 5th circuit just reinstates Biden's vaccine mandate for all federal employees?

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Maybe his wife already got the jabs before realizing how dangerous they were.

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Yes. My wife got the jabs when they first came out (she was able to say that she was a caregiver for her elderly parents so went to the front of the line). She got boosted and then got Covid along with the rest of the family. She had the worst symptoms of any of us and symptoms lingered for at least a month.

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Apr 8, 2022·edited Apr 8, 2022

If they all stood up to this and stopped it cold, colleges will lose their swimmers and possibly benefactors. The swimmers might also pick up some sponsors.

I watched a "fight" in the 70's between 10 Mexican teens and a single Korean kid. The Mexicans had him clearly outnumbered, but were each individually afraid of being hit with karate. They kept egging on one another to be the first to take on this kid.

In the end, they all walked away, with the Korean kid not throwing a single punch or kick.

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So true - my good friend’s granddaughter is an excellent collegiate swimmer (potential Olympian) and as much as they want to, they know they will lose their scholarships. It would take ALL of them to boycott at the same time and risk their futures.

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This is what the Women Cyclists just did in Britain. And it worked.

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That’s what it’ll take — a mass uprising so to speak. Or, if you are old enough to remember or are a student of history: A “haven’t you no shame” moment. Alone we are voices crying in the wilderness, together we have great might. We have truth on our side, we should not be hesitant to speak.

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If they ALL stopped swimming against " he/she" they would change the course. Power in numbers. The real girls need to stand up for themselves and quit "going along"! IMO

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Just like they should have done with the "vaxxes."

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The majority of women vote for the party destroying their sports. This problem ONLY can be fixed by women. They created the problem, only they can fix it.

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As a woman, It’s increasingly fascinating and maddening to me to see how after all of the so called strides the Women’s Movement has “helped” women make we are now working outside in a 40+ job, still doing the bulk of the work for the upkeep and running of the home. We are usually the one who figures out child care and now we are heavily supported and honored if we decide to “ end a inconvenient pregnancy”. The list goes on and on about how this has disrupted the family and caused untold problems for our children and I think made many women miserable. So now here we are, anyone can be a woman, birthing person, her/she or whatever they want to call themselves. The biggest slap is that all the way to the Supreme Court an actual Woman will deny that she can define what a woman really is! ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????

This is all BULLSHIT! 🤯😡

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Isn't it ironic that "now we are heavily supported and honored if we decide to “ end a inconvenient pregnancy”" but if a woman decides to take care of her child(ren) full time there is so little support and honor.

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Yes it is! In my opinion the work of being a good parent is the most important and rewarding job any of us have on this earth, including father’s.

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What a sweet story that so captures the innocence and wonder of children. It is so evil of some adults to use this innocence and wonder in pursuit of their own evil agenda and/or in pursuit of their personal gratification. And yes I agree with you that they are trying to "rip apart the fabric of our society." Just one example was BLM advocating for the disruption of the nuclear family structure. There are so many examples, this was just one of the more overt that comes to mind.

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And yet, her GENDER was 50% of the criteria for nomination.

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You're correct that the majority of women vote Dem, although that has been changing a bit - esp when Dems kept schools closed so long. We Moms won't forgive that.

But I disagree that ONLY women can fix sports. Plenty of men are decision makers with sports. They shouldn't throw their hands up.

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Agree. This statement is 100% true. I wonder what low percentage can see this?

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Every meet this guy competes in the women he’s competing against should all just walk. Let this fool race against himself. To go even further the other teams he’s competing against should just flat refuse to compete against them. Take the forfeit if they have too.

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It's tough to stand up, look how many gave into the vaxx because they needed their jobs, see their grandchildren. Inmates in prison seem to have more rights than college athletes.

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Kinda' like any person or any group accepting Fed. gov't largesse......

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Or Gates Foundation money (directly or indirectly).

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Not if they unite and stand together. They cannot ban all of them. Women in the UK did just that, this is today's news: "British Cycling BANS trans cyclists from racing while they re-work their policy which is 'unfair on all women riders."

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I feel for these girls that have been told all their lives that they are equals to men in every societal way, and now because of their gender rights they are being silenced because they are coerced by the money. And, I thank God that my youngest did not go to college to be indoctrinated by lies and manipulations.

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I really hope that student-athletes sue the schools for breach of contract.

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Can you explain exactly why they would lose their scholarships if they speak out? I am genuinely curious. Is their scholarship conditional on them doing as they are told and never questioning anything?

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Because the college would pull them. As some of the women on the Penn team have noted, anonymously, anything they say negative about Thomas will be found by future HR departments and their odds of a career will be diminished significantly.

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Really? Lia Thomas will be mocked in a year or two, like Colin Kapernic is.

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those careers are on their last legs anyway. this is ugly as hell now, but it will collapse on itself.

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Good point

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Agree. They can't cancel the entire swim team.

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"these girls are hostages to scholarships"

Yep, And even if they aren't on scholarship, they're all still hostages to woke insanity. I wouldn't want my name out there quoted as criticizing Lia! You know you'll be Googled before being hired for a job, and you know it's a liability. Why put yourself at risk?

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The questions you have to ask yourself are: do I want to stand up for what’s right or what’s convenient; do I really want to work for a company that forces me to accept “woke” ideology which would ultimately include all the bells and whistles of cancel culture and socialism; and is it worth selling my soul to get a job?

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Family first. Yes, if I have to swallow a degree of woke bull shit to pay the bills & feed my kids, I'll do it.

Esp if I were still a college student & had zero experience. If I want to get my foot in the door & build up my resume, I'll swallow BS.

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It’s absolutely a choice. And that choice could have greater ramifications than swallowing a degree of woke bs. Something to really consider with (I think) a great deal of prayer and family input. There is a spiritual cost that maybe they don’t want you to make. Just a thought…

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Nah. At a big company, many employees are far removed from wokeness. Sitting through a 30-min "Diversity, Equity & Inclusion" preso 2X a year isn't chipping away at our souls. I feel no moral conflict rolling my eyes & taking the training.

& my husband & I are atheists. I never did figure out how prayer is different from talking to an imaginary friend.

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Selling your soul.

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Unfortunately, in the end they always eat their own .

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There are and will be company’s owned by people who disagree with this craziness and starting your own business is a possibility too. Yes. Yes it is!

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There's really not many options to freelance as, for example, a biologist. Plenty of careers don't lend themselves to going it alone.

And these are current college students. By definition, they have very little work experience. No one pays consultants without experience.

Sure, it's possible, but difficult and not pragmatic. The women who stay silent to protect their own career prospects aren't the enemy - they're the victims.

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Why do I think it's a risk to speak out against Lia?

Or

Why do I say, "I understand why these girls don't think it's worth the risk [to speak out against Lia]"?

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This is an absurd form of competition. A demonstrably superior athlete is being handicapped with powerful drugs to keep the illusion of fair play. <<< Harrison Bergeron, anyone?

http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

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Vonnegut is the BEST

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I bet they also know that if they organized any protest they’d be hung out to dry by every institution as bigots. The media environment alone is enough to chill.

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they must speak out and together refuse to participate. Courage

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I would not use ‘she ’ to refer to this male swimmer. Pronouns refer to biology. That’s all they refer to.

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I just thought of a new pronoun they can call themselves, "dumbass."

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I prefer an all inclusive pronoun s(h(it)). One can also add 'head' to the end for emphasis.

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HE IS A BIOLOGICAL MALE

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Agreed. Just third person/legal name

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I reread 1984 last month and remembered why I never liked the book: it scared me. Now it both scares me and depresses me because I am seeing it play out in America. So many foolish people remain silent and comply.

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The divide in society is now revealing itself as a repeat of a very, very old argument between Plato and Aristotle. In general, Platonists embraced the primacy of consciousness, and Aristotelians embraced the primacy of existence, or reality. The subject is too large to address in this forum, but suffice it to say that every period of human history—the majority of periods, as it turns out—that was ruled by the Platonists and their philosophical cousins (including, most recently, Communists and Fascists) has been a period of tyranny, subjugation of the masses, ignorance, cultural regression, dispair, and ultimately death. The relatively few periods of human history that was ruled by Aristotilians or their philosophical cousins (including, most recently Free Market Capitalists and Constitutionalists) has led to individual liberty, prosperity, cultural ascendency, freedom, private property, leaps in human knowledge, and ultimately human flourishing.

I’ll leave it up to the readers to guess which school of thought embraces gender fluidity, modern monetary theory (espousing endless deficit spending), Rule-by-experts (hint: Plato advocated rule by “Philosopher Kings”), or advocates of computer models over empirical, objective reality (e.g. climate models), to name just a few examples.

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Bingo! You summed it up nicely....👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Read Anthem by Rand. It's the happy ending to 1984

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I read all things Ayn Rand 50 years ago as a Sophomore/Junior in high school. Can't remember Anthem, but will be rereading it since I need some hopium...

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Me too and also Brave New World and watched Total Recall as well.

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Also V for Vendetta.

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“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"

- Voltaire

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how i wish i could post this on twitter..but i cannot. once again i am banned and i WILL NOT APOLOGIZE for stating the obvious- a man doesn't "become" a woman by having plastic surgery and taking drugs anymore than I can "become" 25 years old instead of 60 from plastic surgery and drugs. It's called...wait for it...wait for it....SCIENCE

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As Lt. Gov Mark Robinson said: you can get cut up, you can get made up, you can get drugged up, but you are still a man or a woman and you can't change that.

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Apr 8, 2022·edited Apr 8, 2022

Many North Carolinians are VERY PROUD of Mark. What a guy!

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Transgender is the alchemy of the 21st century. Trying to turn a male into female is no more possible than turning base metals into gold.

At least alchemists only experimented on metals, not children. Our society has so much to answer for, and history will judge us harshly (as it should). I hope Team Reality leaves enough records to prove that not all of us are evil.

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The globalists and their useful idiots have been feminizing males for at least the last 2 decades. And it’s working, as recent polls taken show that males between 18 and 35 would not fight for this country if the US were attacked. They would rather become a refugee. Tells you how sorry the future looks.

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I got suspended from Twitter too for stating the obvious about the Parental rights in Education bill on FL, if you go against the "trans" ideology they come for you even if you are just a regular person and not a verified anybody but maybe my account was getting views, who knows? I deleted the tweet and then the account.

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You are a somebody that’s why the government is watching your social media accounts especially now that you keyed the correct buzz words

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True on the fighting age. You can spend thousand to change the cover but your still old.

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Question EVERYTHING the legacy media says. Not just COVID and "female" swimmers, but also the narrative on Ukraine. Especially the narrative on Ukraine.

Unless you like the idea of Thermo Nuclear War, which they all seem to want.

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alex is going to need a source from a bluecheck to fact-check your comment because he loves irony i guess

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Once awake one must question Everything!!

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If a guy wants to think of himself as a girl, I suppose that’s none of my business. But I refuse to participate in any gender dysphoric fantasies. I don’t play the pronoun game.

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I'm not interested in encouraging insanity.

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the former head of psychiatry for johns hopkins said it's better for these mentally ill folks if we don't.

they are better off coming through the other side of their dysphoria

and helping them is important! their suicide rate is sky-high, but the left disregards this & marches toward some dystopian "progress"

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based on th left's fealty to the mRNA jab, perhaps increased suicides and death by overdose IS the goal.

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i mean, you can't rule it out 🤷‍♂️

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So then Alex, stop buying into the lie and gaslighting of the left and call Lia what he is -a man. He. Him. I’m so tired of being forced to participate in the left’s delusional behavior! If he wants to swim on a women’s team, say no, that’s not possible. If he wants to start a trans team, he should go for it. But he’s not a woman and he shouldn’t be on the Women’s team of anything!

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Ooooh, you are so right. Every time I hear him referred to as she, I get a little sick or off kilter. I put forth the thought to my family that if he or anyone else wants to transgender and participate in competition, then maybe there should be a team for transgender. I’m not being disrespectful to another human being by suggesting that. I really feel that it might be the only way to keep our society from collapsing into something that we just can’t recognize and yet fair to everyone.

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yeah, if i'm around him personally, i prolly go she, just cause i respect people who are deranged. but in public, yeah, we should probably refer to him as what he is. a dude.

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If lia can identify as a female , why can’t we all identify as quadruple vaxxed

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Apr 8, 2022·edited Apr 8, 2022

It seems to me that the entire media glosses over--or avoids-- the real proportions here. Last I heard, less than 1 % of the entire US population "identifies" as transgender. Less than 5 % identify as Gay. All I want is a sense of proportion injected into any conversation regarding these issues. It's truly misinformation to exclude it.

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That number will grow soon. Thanks to the insanity pushed on kids.

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Sense of proportion, indeed. We have lost our collective minds to put up with the insanity about so many things.

Tucker Carlson had an enlightening segment a couple of weeks ago in which he posited that this began as another “Follow the Money.” In 2014, gay marriage was finally recognized and the organization most behind that endeavor was losing funding because it was “mission accomplished.” So, how to maintain fundraising - where to go next? This was their solution.

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I had a similar thought the other day. It is very odd how this trans stuff only came about after gay marriage was legalized. The timing is just too coincidental in my opinion.

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It's called "more progress"; once they get a foot in the door there's no shutting that door, only pushing to get it open wider and finally removing the hinges.

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I saw that and it made perfect sense to me and we all know money and power go together so nicely. 🤷‍♀️

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Interesting

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Apr 8, 2022·edited Apr 8, 2022

Damn it, Alex! Lia Thomas is a MAN. I will use his new name because that is something he can legally change. However, HE has XY chromosomes, which HE cannot change. HIS pronouns are he/him/his. STOP amplifying the nonsense! DO NOT allow a group of loud, obnoxious people to capture our language.

Alex, I expected better of you.

I regularly "misgender" these mentally ill people because I will not have my language captured because to do so would require me to surrender my brain.

As for students laughing at public health "experts" on the subject of covid, the professor who contacted you should've asked these same students about "transgender."

I expect not as many would laugh.

(BTW, using "preferred pronouns" is NOT courtesy. It is abetting a lie.)

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There is only one truth and that is Lia Thomas is a man. Stop using "she" to describe him. You insult real women by doing so. Stop playing the preferred pronoun game.

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This is absolute insanity. The people that push this crap are sick fucks. There's no way in hell a large % of Americans support this crap.

Relating to this topic, I live in the seventh reddest district in the US. Someone posted the sexual education manual they're using in fifth grade and it spouted woke nonsense of gender being a social contstruct yada yada yada. The superintendent was not even aware of this crap and pulled it immediately. The people perpetrating this crap are evil and crafty. If it wasn't for a parent asking to see the material these sick fucks would have gotten to our children. Always be aware of what's going on in the classroom!

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Agree and if you have blue hair, tattoos and a ring through your nose. You need to go work in a bar or Starbucks. How do these people end up as teachers? What happened to work dress codes. The look is a huge red flag to me.

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Some days I wake up and wonder if I'm actually living in reality. There's no way any sane person would support this. This has to be nefarious by design. I guarantee the white Wonderbread elite don't believe in this shit either and use it to deflect from the ass raping the entire western world is taking.

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Generation Snowflake never got spanked or had to deal with consequences for their bad decisions. Blame the parents.

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I will blame the parents up until age lets say 20 - after that you are responsible for yourself.

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Yes and no. I know plenty GenX folks that are totes into this.

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Disney world Twitter and the elite media are pushing this false narrative.

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The next thing already in the line up is the “MAP”.....Minor Attracted Person. This is a grooming for them to get our children and at some point for us to accept it. This is beyond Sick!!!

You will be hearing more and more sympathy for these sicko’s.🤯🤮 . .

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"she is a biological male"

alex, ffs, be brave enough to write "he is a biological male"

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As a grandmother of an 11 year old boy and a 7 year old girl one of the scariest things I have heard is what Jen Psaki said yesterday: "Sex Reassignment Surgery, Puberty Blockers for kids is 'Best Practice', states preventing it will be held accountable."

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It is a strange and unsettling time to be alive

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