This mandate was the broadest of the three, affecting all companies with more than 100 employees. The block effectively ends forced Covid vaccinations at the federal level.
and yet still voted nonsensically, both from perspective of need (emergency) and constitutionality of mandating a medical procedure without informed consent, of private companies by a federal authority.
Don't worry. The gang can always find the way to get back at them. Remember threats of physical violence uttered by Chucky Schumer(D) on the steps of the Supreme Court?
That's another option but the money and power those in power have its easier and less risky to just bribe or blackmail the official e4specially since most can bought off for rather cheap.
Bribery and/or blackmail. I will admit there are some who probably due it because the genuinely believe our system is evil and needs to be over thrown with some collectivist like system of governance but the majority are bribed with a decent number blackmailed and or both. Unlike normal bribery amongst non-government officials they get legalized bribery like inside trading which Congress made sure to give itself protection from a few years back. In fairness I could see the logic of why one would want to do this as it's easy to be indirectly invested in something that your could argue you benefit from being in elected office but that's not why they gave them self an exception to insider trading.
Delusional, yes, but mostly ignorant (I mean STUPID). The ridiculous ramblings of Sotomayor and Kagan were not only non-factual but they missed the point entirely--Mandate was unconstitutional regardless. As for the Medicare and Medicaid mandate to healthcare facilities, there is always a price for taking money from the federal government, but it still sucks. IMO, this may cause many docs and facilities to drop those patients.
We as patients should drop some of those doctors. Many "sang the song" and denied vital treatment and advice to patients. They don't deserve to see patients or even hold a medical license.
Do your prep now. Have a discussion with your PCP to ask if and whether they will prescribe early treatment. If not, find another doctor. It’s like living in a state hostile to your freedom, walk away.
Agree 💯! Sadly you can no longer bank on the medical community looking out for your best interest or best medical care...you really have to vet the doctors and the medical centers/hospitals they are affiliated with to make sure what their governing protocols are and what prescriptions/treatments they administer.
“The first step is to give up the illusion that the primary purpose of modern medical research is to improve Americans’ health most effectively and efficiently. In our opinion, the primary purpose of commercially funded clinical research is to maximize financial return on investment, not health.”
My PCP does not provide any treatment for COVID, but I have limited choices due to insurance. I would have to pay cash for a doc who will treat,. Honestly, would we not be better off with cash pay. If docs didn't get ripped off by Medicare and Medicaid, they could probably lower cash prices. Healthcare in America is a convoluted mess.
I think you might miss the point. You might be a medicaid/medicare beneficiary looking for a logical doctor willing to speak rationally about risk/reward of a covid shot, but under this ruling the only doctors allowed to take on such patients will be those who submitted to being jabbed themselves. They will have been baptized by pharma so to speak. You choice of doctor will be severely limited to only the covidian cultists.
A fear of mine anyway. My wife will leave healthcare before being jabbed as will I. I’m afraid this may be at least part of the plan. To get rid of people like us so patients have limited choice.
This should be a striking illustration to everyone as to the individual liberty that is ceded every time the federal government seizes more power and control over private entities (in this instance, the government takeover of healthcare through Medicaid Medicare Obamacare etc.). We don’t just create a government program. We give them leverage to limit your personal choices and seize control of your life!
You are so right! Avoid federal $$ whenever possible. Unfortunately, the feds have little by little over the years infiltrated far too many areas of our lives.
Exactly. And why should I as a provider have to turn away anyone over the age of 65 just because I don’t want or need a particular jab? I pay into it, same as you and everyone does.....and none with option to opt out.
Yes, 2 weeks in AB pain, not seen the Gastro in almost 3 yrs, he doesn't require I see him yearly, but the once every 3 yr Medicare/Tricare Life, hub served 20 yrs in the USN for, dictates 3 yrs between Upper Endoscope, for a multitude of GI issues. Unless you get sick, we moved out of a major Blue county to a small rural one, so a 2 hr drive + wait time, not been GI sick, Express Scripts just calls for refills. Even my Cardio is once a year, if only to run a EKG he understands the system better. ENDO/ENT/ Ophthalmologist every 6 months or by what the lab work says. Hub sees the Ophthalmologist and Glaucoma doc on their time tables. Until Trump made the Vietnam Navy, Vietnam Vets, he didn't put them under Agent Orange, along with heavy metal solvents, created huge eye damage. Flight Deck hearing damage is VA disability. Our OOP expenses get larger every year, as congress takes a sharp knife to promised benefits.
I'm hearing that the Feds aren't reimbursing for Medicare expenses at the current time in the way that they should either. That claims filed aren't being reimbursed. Medical institutions are being left scrambling to cover their expenses.
I think we may be about to see the collapse of major government programs--and I'm concerned about what this will do to my parents' and other retirees' healthcare.
That happened under Obama too. Many waited 6 months to be paid. I lived under the no safety net, in my 30's. at 73, I couldn't do it, been disabled since I was 58. Our statements showed paid, we get what Medicare covers separate from Tricare Life. A doc who fails to file on time eats the Tricare. We get told they don't take it, WELL they HAVE TO.
You maybe looking at Great Depression 2. I've been slowly stocking, rotating so it doesn't get wasted by out of date. Since they called the election.
Nine of these Justices have nothing to fear, they are set for life...
You folks have no idea what people in power and authority really think, and do, every day of late. And, they haven't been vaccinated, they know it is a risk!
I just shake my head when I see a person wearing a mask in their car or worse out jogging or biking by themselves. They may not get COVID but they will eventually realize the consequences of continually re-breathing in their own bad breath.
Only a 95 mask (which most don't wear) has a stronger ability to stop such a virus and those are much worse regarding breathing impairment. I got Omicron over Christmas break and recovered in less than a week and took third at a national fencing competition last Saturday. I haven't been Jabbed. How is that possible? I should have been hospitalized or dead according to FJB. It's better for the Un Jabbed who haven't acquired natural immunity to get Omicron.
I had what I believe was Omicron--no tests or sites available at moment. Upon getting a slight sore throat, I immediately began the FLCCC protocol of povidone iodine nasal rinse and gargle, continued the list of supplements and added the suggested one aspirin per day. Knocked that baby out within 3 or 4 days, only ran a fever for one or two of those days, and I am in the "high-risk" category. I give most credit to the povidone iodine rinse and gargle. I am not saying this virus should not be taken seriously, but if you are armed with knowledge and prepared with supplies, you will be OK in most cases. I did not have the money to go to an online doc and then pay for Ivermectin and such so adopted the much maligned practice of (guided) self care. Re: masks, whether it be physical or psychological or a combo, I can't wear them for more than maybe a half an hour, N95 maybe 15 mins.
I also followed FLCCC Protocols including 15 mg of Ivermectin a day for 5 days. My symptoms were headache, fatigue, back aches and cough with some phlegm. I might have had a slight temperature the first day. I never got tested at that time but passed a Rapid Antigen test the Friday before the tournament ( 1 week ago).
That makes is worse. When he said in Friday's arguments that the vax is "100% effective" in stopping transmission he was misleading deliberately. No way we're convinced that he's stupid enough to actually believe it.
Two are Obama appointees. He only nominated people he had leverage over with some kind of dirt found or fabricated by his corrupt lackeys at IRS and FBI. He was going to appoint Garland to SCOTUS, need I say more? Ok, he had the goods on Hillary and Joe. Enough to put them in prison like he did to Illinois Governor Blagojevich because he didn’t appoint who Obama wanted to fill his Senate seat. He emasculated NJ Senator Menendez for opposing the moronic Iran nuclear deal by prosecuting his physician friend for Medicare fraud. Menendez backed down and Harry Reid dropped the ethics charges.
When she was nominated law professor Lawrence Tribe said of Sotomayor that she "is not as smart as she thinks she is, and something of a bully". They knew.
No argument here. Even to us on the right it's inarguable that Trump's track record in appointments and personnel matters was pathetic. It's something people really need to think hard about before nominating him again. I was pleasantly surprised that Amy Comey-Barrett came out on the right side of both cases.
I would vote for Trump again! He is not perfect, no one is, but I believe he did the best he could while being attacked, undermined and sabotaged from all sides. He was not prepared for that not having been a Washington insider. Conservatives were all pulling for Amy Coney-Barrett and in many cases she has been a huge disappointment. I too was glad she came out on the right side of the vaccine mandate cases.
This should be a striking illustration to everyone as to the individual liberty that is ceded every time the federal government seizes more power and control over private entities (in this instance, the government takeover of healthcare through Medicaid Medicare Obamacare etc.). We don’t just create a government program. We give them leverage to limit your personal choices and seize control of your life!
Yes, many institutions (like mine) allow religious or medical exemptions and they likely will continue to allow them. But for some workers who lost their jobs because of the mandate, they’re now out of luck, I think. Very, very disappointed in Justices Kavanaugh and Roberts.
Kavanaugh, disappointed doesn't adequately describe my feelings. Roberts, figured it out with his Obamacare decision, expect nothing from him, pleasantly surprised with his ruling no on the OSHA mandate.
Yes, but Does not matter. I refuse to be forced to test every week. Do you see? For the rest of my career, every week. At my own expense. PCR only accepted at my job. $100 per after govt stops covering. I make roughly $30k. I support myself. I support others. It’s not just about the injustice .
Well, it is about the injustice when looking at the Constitution and the fact that we expect privacy regarding our medical/healthcare decisions and illness or wellness. No argument that the financial burden and the high probability of false positives from the PCR tests are huge issues, but for me the larger issue is medical privacy. I do not know current rules, but forever and ever HIV+ patients were not required to disclose their status in any situation (with possible exception of purposefully infecting someone). IMO, HIV poses a much greater risk in general than COVID currently does.
Trump's Blue-Light Federalist Society noms are also why the election was stolen from us in 2020. They all lied that Texas had no "standing" to contest the coup d'etat. In effect, they've now rubber-stamped a subversive "right" of states to steal state & federal elections, disenfranchise their own voters & those of other states.
He lost because of massive vote fraud that has already been outed and proven in the six contested states. There was also proven vote fraud in New Hampshire, questioned vote fraud in New Mexico and Virginia. Biden did NOT win the election; Trump did.
How would you suggest he have done differently? Who do you trust to give you advice on this. If several state legislatures would have done what was right and not certified the election results of their states,the SC would have been out of it. Michigan had a Republican majority in their Legislature and they still certified the election. They had 1000’s of signed affidavits stating eye witness fraud and they ignored it. Now it’s locked away and they claim the public can not review it. My point is the GOP swamp is just as deep as the Dems. Who could Trump trust. Hindsight is always 20/20.
Trump's a babble-bungling narcissist & accomplice to mass murder. Why make excuses for him? He never vetted ANYONE, even the vetters. He trusted corrupt Mitch McCornhole & HIRED his corrupt ChiCom collaborator wife as SecTrans. He hired, nominated & endorsed deep snake assholes for the entire 4 years right to the end. e.g.
Wray
Ruby Ridge Bill Barr
Scaramucci
Kelley
Mattis
Tillerson
John McStain
McCornhole-Chao
Lindsey Graham
Pierre Delecto (formerly Mitt Romney)
Hundreds more traitors.
Could he really Pfuck up that much without trying?
I could see fraud coming for months ahead of the election. I wonder how seriously Trump took it beforehand or maybe he thought he had enough votes to beat the fraud? It was too late afterwards and they used January 6th to tamp down any dissent.
Suburban mom here. I voted for Trump. Almost didn’t the first time, but very happily did the second time! And all other suburban moms I now also voted for him…twice!!!!
You are wrong. There is now an avalanche of documentation that proves there was massive vote fraud. I left Nevada out in my list of states. Steven Crowder sent teams to check on addresses and there were citizen groups who researched the voter rolls. There were thousands of the dead, the those living in vacant lots and on median strips on the highway, those who had moved out of the state long before, and duplicate ballots to sway the election to Biden.
Also, it wasn’t a coincidence that polls shut down in the key states with Trump winning. This had never been done before and should never have been permitted.
Nevadan here - I literally watched the numbers allocated to each candidate change throughout the night WITHOUT the percent of precincts reporting change. How does that math?
“Our evidence has never been refuted, only ignored.” Jesse Binnall Federal litigation Attorney in a Senate hearing. https://vimeo.com/491797614
If you're following the data coming out of the election integrity investigations, you quickly realize that it wasn't just 7 states where there was fraud (although 7 states did have egregious amounts of fraud): it was all of them. Oklahoma had the least amount of fraud --but still significant fraud.
The fraud in Nebraska resulted in an electoral vote going to Biden that shouldn't ever have been in question, and should have gone for Trump. Nebraska votes almost solid Republican except for one part in Omaha, yet if you look at just the 2020 election results, you might gain the mistaken impression that the state now votes "purple."
Every state's election fraud looks a little different, but it all amounts to the same thing: we have to clean up our elections or none of our votes will ever count again.
White, middle aged, college educated suburban woman here. I voted for him twice. Didn't always like his public speeches or his mannerisms but I didn't hire him to be saccharine and pandering.
Exactly! Trump's policies kept us safer, gave us energy independence, gave us full employment with rising wages, closed the border to illegal immigration, removed MS13 gang members and deported them, started a real peace process in the Middle East with Israel and several Arab countries. His accomplishments are lengthy and positive for the country and for world stability. What has Biden done except to undermine all of this.
I lived in NYC when Nixon won his election. I was too young to vote at the time but everyone, EVERYONE, around me was shocked Nixon had won because no one knew anyone who had voted for him. You may believe the USA is composed of enough suburban women to have given Biden the presidency but I assure you that isn't the case. You live in a bubble if you believe that. When Biden had political rallies you could count those who turned out to hear him on two hands. Really. Remember those circles painted on the tarmac? There were so few people there they had to fill the parking lots with cars to make it look like there was an actual turnout. Contrast that with the turnout for each and every Trump rally. People got in line days before the event and at the rally there were people as far as the eye could see.
You’re a perfect example of why 19A must be repealed if we’re ever gonna regain liberty.
You can have a safe, educated, prosperous and free society … or you can enfranchise women. Women vote to be taken care of with the welfare state (unfunded liabilities for Medicare & SocSec = $240T.) They vote for progs and get BLM & open borders & defunded cops. They vote for demented idiots because the other guy is “mean.” Screw liberty, prosperity, human rights and energy independence. As long as the guy isn’t mean.
did anyone see bidens speach earlier this week from georgia? bleachers behind him filled with blacks all wearing giant masks and all he did was try to stir up racial prejudice and inequities and bringing up the past of slavery etc while the camera kept panning in the audience to jesse jackson etc.. For the amazing black ppl that I know and my black pastor who I LOVE! It is embarassing to see this play out. I am so damn tired of ppl being affected by the same old dog and pony show trying to stir up racial divide. But then of course it's all OBABMA DOING THIS SINCE 2008.
Oh--here we go with this again. No, ALL women aren't "out to get you." I think you'd be amazed at how very many women vote conservatively--and always will. If half the population of our country (the entire female half) had decided to join those disgusting parades of pink hats after the 2016 election, can you imagine the size of the crowds?
The pink hat marchers didn't represent even 1% of women in this country. Just because they were loud didn't mean that represented the rest of us.
Moving on...Election fraud has been going on for quite a while now. Do you know whose votes the leftists are mostly stealing? Looking at a map of the election fraud in our state, it's clear that they're stealing the votes of poor people and retirees, half of whom are...WOMEN.
I think--we're all in this together. We need to stop trying to stab each other in the back over stuff we can't help--like our gender.
I’ve been wondering just how much of Covid HYSTERIA is due to the feminist Cultural Revolution which forced women out of their homes and into the workforce.
Not to mention the 4 years of lies and deceit perpetrated by the media and social media against Trump and not reporting on all the achievements he had.
You got that right. I was suspicious of Trump in 2016 but I knew all about Hillary. I held my nose and voted for Trump. Over the four years I came to admire him and loved his policies. I shudder to think what kind of police state we would have become under Hillary. The woman is vicious and this has been well documented in any number of books. She also loves money. Check out Peter Schweitzer's book "Clinton Cash." President Trump has a deep respect for the Constitution and Federalism. This is why he did not call out the National Guard for all those cities that were burning and restore order. He was waiting for their state and local governments to request help. Personally, I think this was a mistake and he should have followed President Eisenhower's example when he called out the National Guard to protect the students integrating the high school in Little Rock. President Trump had to work against almost insurmountable head winds of the MSM, Big Tech, Democrats, and lawsuits. He has to be the most investigated president in history and they have found nothing although they have made up much and insinuated a whole lot.
I agree with what you're saying. I didn't like either choice however Trump was the better choice. I grew to like him for his polices and no nonsense approach. I could not stand, and still can not stand the way he goes on about everything he's done. STOP!!! I do not want to hear it anymore. I would still be supporting him however he's standing by "his vaccine" claiming it's safe. I will not support ANYONE who doesn't acknowledge the truth about the poison.
Yes, totally agree. I shudder to think where we would be if Hillary won. And no doubt Trump is no Saint, but he loves America and touted it repeatedly, despite whatever black days in our history and problems we have as a nation...he loves America. He worked to secure the boarder, he worked to make us energy independent and a top energy exporter, he valued the average American and didn't look down his nose at them, and our international adversaries knew he meant business. He was treated unfairly for sure. He did put his eggs in the Fauci/Birx basket for covid which was a mistake. Was it ignorance...hard to tell. Wish he called more upon people like Dr Atlas and Dr Makary instead of establishment bureaucrats.
"I'm thinking about reversing Obama's executive order that exempted congress from Obamacare."
Trump is full of bullshit. And the worst of his bullshit, the "safe & effective" lie, makes him an accomplice to mass murder. NONE of his accomplishments can make up for that.
One of the great items for future historians to ponder will be the degree to which this country suffered immensely for the sole reason that Donald Trump invested exactly ZERO intellectual curiosity into who he was appointing to key positions.
The 3 shouldn't be surprising especially given the ignorance they displayed a couple of days ago. However, I do agree we need a Supreme Court in which getting 3 votes favoring the mandate would be an impossibility.
Just imagine if leftist Merrick Garland hadn't been blocked from confirmation during Obama's last year in office. For once, McConnell did something right.
More healthcare facilities have to stop taking Medicare and Medicaid patients. A private healthcare facility can avoid the mandates. And it seems like they would have quite a selection of doctors and nurses from which to hire.
I'd be afraid to enter hospitals driven by govt mandate policies....they'd look at me like a $100k Lotto ticket in short order. Kill the bastard with remdesivir and a few days on the ventilator and we've got CHA--CHING! BONUSES! Do yourself a favor and TAKE INCREDIBLE CARE OF YOUR HEALTH.
Yup, there’s one organization I will never be a member of. My parents cancelled their membership when they started supporting Obamacare. #votewithyourdollars
As just pointed out by Clay and Buck, if Hillary had won in 2016 and had the opportunity to appoint her communist justices (like Garland) we’d be looking at the opposite outcome right now. History hangs on a thread.
Liberalism in general is based on the premise of ‘you are not smart enough to do what’s right, or to take care of yourself properly, so WE must do it for you’ all the while selling themselves as the open-minded tolerant faction that will let you do whatever you want.
The definition has changed. What's now called conservatism is actually classical liberalism. From the 70's to the earlier 2000s, the religious right dominated the conservative movement, but now most conservatives don't care about social issues like gay marriage, and many support things like marijuana legalization. They're main concern is limiting the size and overreach of government.
I'd say that a lot more conservatives still do care about that than you may think (gay marriage). In fact--let's make a distinction here: not all conservatives are Christian, but--Christian conservatives do feel pretty strongly about this, and do comprise a significant share of Trump's support.
The Bible has some pretty strong words for anyone promoting sin: "the wages of sin is death." If you believe what the Bible teaches, then... you won't be on board with sin regardless of the sin, no matter what or who tries to muzzle your voice. Conservative Christian voices being muzzled is not and can never be counted the same as them agreeing with or giving consent to sin.
Did you know that you can still go to the Dead Sea and see the devastation for yourself that God visited on Sodom and Gomorrah? The ruins are still there. So is the sulfur brimstone. The nodules found in the ashes of the ruins are extraordinarily pure--like nothing else found in nature.
Maybe--it isn't conservatives' assent to sin that anyone should be concerned about. Maybe--each of us should be far, far more concerned about what God thinks about it, and about what God wants from us.
God doesn't actually need any of us to enforce His own laws.
Christians stand witness and testify to what is good and right and true because we are called to do so and out of love for our fellow human beings. We'd rather not see anyone made subject to His holy and righteous judgment who can instead be rescued and redeemed. We are fortunate in trusting and believing that there is a God who loves humans enough and is patient and long-suffering enough to rescue us from our own sinful bent to self-destruction instead of just summarily destroying us all--but that rescue requires a choice, and each of us must choose to make it. And God's patience with us is--as He has warned--a temporary thing. It won't last forever.
That's one of the silver linings of this pandemic debacle. People are laying aside ideology to once again agree on what is rational. I am sure that I disagree with Alex on many, many topics, but he has earned my respect in ways few individuals ever have.
The author lost me (very near the beginning of the essay) when he referred to Noam Chomsky with admiration. Though Chomsky at one time was widely considered to a brave truth-teller, at this point he's morphed into a perfect shill for government propaganda, at least as far as covid and the poison injections are concerned.
I used to consider myself a member of the theoretical "far-left," but now I say I'm "politically unaligned."
Yeah it's interesting how Chomsky has joined the Covid maximalist camp. And disappointing. I also interviewed him on these issues and did not like his answers. But that all said I am still proudly a Chomskyan left libertarian b/c even if Chomsky got Covid very wrong it doesn't undermine his intellectual edifice more generally. https://tamhunt.medium.com/noam-chomsky-on-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-government-responses-be8301359dbb
Really?! Are you serious?! I think Chomsky's rabid pro-vax stance and all that goes with it - the vicious demonization of anti-vaxers, etc. - completely destroys his legacy.
And I don't say this just about Noam Chomsky. I feel this way about every single journalist, writer, and public intellectual who previously had been outspoken, courageous, willing to speak the bitter truth to power, who currently adopts and endorses the propaganda from the government about covid and the "vaccines.
There are legions of people like this. I believe the CIA has taken control of the "independent" media in all its various guises. I suspect this has been gradually happening for decades, but has become more widespread in recent years. There's simply no explanation for their universal, slavish adherence to the official narrative otherwise.
Yep total party lines with morons like Sotomayor and Kagan in the minority. Wonder if anyone clued Sotomayor in on the actual figures of children in the hospital...
Well and that's not even the issue (besides her being grotesquely ill-informed, as you point out). The issue is that she believes that rule of law should be ignored by health officials, and they should be allowed to basically do what they want.
Law is made complicated for job security ... they can not rule if there is no request. So they will rule on the constitutionality when that case is presented, for now they only ruled on the overreaching cases
Definitely not over, they'll figure out 100 more ways to get their way. And yes, if you live in a complete shithole state like I do, forget about it. Newsom in CA is already planning to mandate in the broadest way possible, starting with all children.
No reason to be blackpilled about this. This is a win. Celebrate and on to the next one. There's no data to support any vaccination at all, not to mention mandates. The pandemic is over but they just keep poking it with a stick. After omicron is over in a few weeks, so is this circus.
We need to be vigilant before November and melt Congress’s phone lines down, repeatedly, with the flood of calls and send so many emails their inbox quotas are exceeded. They will try to create the authority for OSHA to effect this mandate as well as every other socialist thing they want. They only have to win once, before November and get it signed into law, even if they lose across the board in November (assuming we have anything remotely resembling a legitimate election come November). We have to win every single time to preserve a free country.
I think that's the optimistic response, but I see too much else still happening everywhere and the U.S. will never be an outlier in this mess. I believe states will follow.
There has never been any data and look where we are. And with all of the exposure we have now, many (and I mean many) people are still scared to death and pro-mandate. Go ahead, try using logic--it hasn't worked yet. Sorry to be so negative, but I have read too much to think we'll get out it this that easily.
Yup -- I heard that it goes down to the state level now, i.e., each state can have its own mandates. But at least I hope those could be thrown out too. Or at least they wouldn't be mandated in the first place now that Covid seems to be burning out in severity.
Medical or religious? Supposedly religious are easier to get (because how do you prove someone's beliefs?) although they do get denied sometimes. Check out Berenson's substack where different readers chimed in on what did/n't work for them to get an exemption from their "overlords".
I really hope so, but from the beginning there has been a huge disconnect between the data and logic and what the leaders are doing. If Newsom thinks he has the support, he'll continue to push the agenda.
Agree they will try more nonsense and especially at the blue state level but Fed mandates are going to be very tough to implement losing this one 6-3. States it will be a challenge in many
Also agreed. I got kicked out of Menard's for not wearing a mask last May, after I had already been vaccinated. I now shop at Home Depot exclusively or Fleet Farm. Anywhere, but sheeple-home shop, mask-up Menard's.
It is not over. This decision merely serves as a guidepost for how to go about imposing vaccine mandates that will be immune (see what I did?) to legal attacks.
You can't possibly believe that the One World Order crew are just going to roll over and give up on their plans for world domination. They still have climate change, massive immigration into the West, renegade countries like Russia, Iran, and North Korea, terrorist groups such as ISIS, and the evil Christian White Man to use as justifications for pushing their agenda. And if none of those bogeymen work, they'll invent new ones.
I’m celebrating, too, however, each state still has the authority to set their own rules. Unfortunately, I live in Bill Gates’ home state and am afraid we are going to see some of the strictest mandates in the country 🥺
“The applications for stays presented to JUSTICE KAVANAUGH and by him referred to the Court are granted. OSHA’s COVID–19 Vaccination and Testing; Emergency
Temporary Standard, 86 Fed. Reg. 61402, is stayed pending disposition of the applicants’ petitions for review in the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit and disposition of the applicants’ petitions for writs of certiorari, if such writs are timely sought. Should the petitions for writs of certiorari be denied, this order shall terminate au- tomatically. In the event the petitions for writs of certiorari are granted, the order shall terminate upon the sending down of the judgment of this Court.”
You are absolutely right. I am sure Dems will use this as an excuse to pack the court. I am an old fashioned Dem wanting to look out for the average person. I have zero in common with these wealthy aristocrats hiding behind a dem veneer
I don't think so. You'll hear some blustering to that point but polls have shown stiff resistance to this idea. Do you really think Manchin and Sinema would go along with that scheme?
Can you imagine if this had gone the other way with it becoming more obvious by the hour that the vax is worthless against Omicron? The blowback would have been insane.
indeed! Still this won't stop them from doing non-scientific actions and promoting unneeded fear for their own gain at the expense of those subjected to it. They won't stop- they will just find a new way. Another future state of emergency / crisis to usurp power and extract profit.
Biden's bizarre doubling-down press conference this morning tells me that at least for the moment the COVID Crazies have won the internal White House debate over the Electoral Realists. This will mean more painful harassment over the coming months, but ultimately a total bludgeoning at the polls. Part of me can't believe that they've chosen this path.
Annnnd cue the Class Action lawsuits against the employers who already pseudo enforced this 'rule' which was really just a press release. I hope a whole bunch of lawyers working as general counsel at these corporations have already been relieved of their position.
Yep! They inflicted workers with an experimental jab with no proven long-term effectiveness or Long-term safety. If I was an attorney, I’d start advertising for business. Big Pharma might be able to skirt responsibility but employers can’t be.
It's exciting to see one mandate blocked. But it doesn't stop the mandates for health care workers, federal employees, or the military. And the military isn't approving any religious exemptions. The fight isn't over yet.
The military has already had vaccine mandates for other illnesses and almost no religious exemption requests were approved. This mandate has called attention to this and there is current litigation regarding the failure of the military to follow the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act that is showing favorable results. As for healthcare workers, there is a severe shortage which leaves the employees in the driver’s seat. The smart ones will apply for religious and/or medical exemptions which will likely be liberally approved due to the shortage.
I saw today that Biden will have a federal agency begin asking employers for lists of those who used the religious exemption. HMMM They will have to bring in the national guard to a lot of hospitals
Seeing the CMS one upheld worries me. And may mean that the federal contractor and federal employee mandates have a very slim chance too. I’m relieved to see the OSHA one blocked. But this is far from over when a vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission or infection can continue to be forced on people in other corners.
Independent practices, yes. And some medicos are already working on setting up alternative clinics and hospitals where unvaccinated health care workers can work and unvaccinated patients are not discriminated against...and the vaccine-injured can get their injuries recognized and treated. America's Frontline Doctors is one organization working on alternative health care systems, but there are several others working on this as well. Look here for info:
That's a huge chunk of their revenue and everyone 65 and older is essentially forced to sign up for Medicare. You can reject but they penalize for life if you ever want to use Medicare insurance. We need to go to cash pay.
We had an HSA before we were forced into Medicare. I’d much rather have the HSA. And lots of doctor’s practices refuse to see Medicare and Medicaid patients. That leaves them in charge of their own billing and Medicare doesn’t run their practice
Direct Primary Care is one way to go: https://www.dpcare.org/ Healthcare sharing is another way to go, like https://www.chministries.org/ (There are other non-faith-based organizations.) But being Medicare eligible or definitely if you're on Medicaid, it changes the rules and/or "owns" you.
Remember America started the virus, funded its release and bullied the world to obeying WHO, CDC dictates. It is only fitting that they would end it-- as the litigation keeps piling up and will be coming after all the apparatchiks and politicians that made it SO easy for Pharma to plunder and kill.
this is not quite so simple. Canada claims to be independent from America from a regulatory perspective, approving vaccines apparently independently and yet all our Public Health officials take WHO FDA and CDC statements at face value like gospel. So it's independence when speaking to the populace and it's blind following of the strictest possible pro-vaccine views from the US.
You have a point Carol. Although I would never trust the ChiComs on anything, “our” hands are far from clean.
This all should be investigated until hell freezes over. Every last stone unturned in this man made disaster and laid bare for history along with prosecutions of course.
Time will tell, the old saying is that Canada gets what Americans with a 3-5 year delay. I hope it is going to be more like 6-12 months. I really hope it'd follow much sooner but I am afraid it's impossible given media and public opinion.
Which is all, or nearly all. Medicare and Medicaid is their bread and butter. We need healthcare that divorces itself from the piper. We need cost sharing programs instead of "insurance." I worked for a para government agency for much of my career, supported by CMS and every contract renewal was like putting a proposal together for Pharaoh (more bricks, less straw!).
When will FOX quit putting the IDIOTIC Mark Siegel on?
He talks about how great "the vaccine" is. He seems not to understand the FACT there are 11+ other vaccines. Not all are MRNAs
In the USA, the Novavax vaccine has been submitted and is more traditional yet we hear nothing about that.
No way he will ever deal with vax failures, myocarditis, ADE, negative efficacy. He is an absolute MORON and has caused problems during all this trying to toe the Fauci line.
He is an embarrassment, a hack, a source of massive misinformation and seems to be a paid shill of big pharma.
I agree. He is a vax lunatic. Every time he’s on Fox I literally yell at my tv lol. He’s all in for vax despite deaths etc. All docs are at NYU Langone. I used to listen to Doctor radio BC but can’t stand it anymore due to liberal bias and vax propaganda.
I remember when he talked up the use of hydroxychloraquine as it apparently saved his father during his Covid bout. I was a bit surprised to see him turn to the vaccines as a panacea after that.
So, the take-away from this ruling is that if Congress were to legislate vaccine mandates, they'd be legal. Time to start putting our congressmen under pressure to enact legislation that would prohibit the passage of such legislation.
That’s good news except that they still are upholding the mandate for healthcare workers. My significant other is an ER Doctor who has had, and recovered, from Covid and does not wish to be vaccinated.
😢 You can use my “Letter to a Governing Body” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-governing-body) in the fight against the mandate. Several of my readers have already started using it as part of their exemption requests, so hopefully others can as well.
This case merely decided whether OSHA has the authority to force private companies with 100 or more employees to impose vaccination requirements on their employees. Facilities that rely heavily on government funds are often considered state actors; which means that they are to be treated as though they were part of the government. If these facilities are considered state actors, then they are not affected by today's decision.
The only recourse, therefore, is to sue OSHA in some federal district court on the grounds that it does not have the authority to require government agencies. Regardless of the ruling in the district court, the loser will appeal to the appropriate circuit court for a ruling overturning the district court's holding. Finally, if the Supremes deem the issue worthy, they will take up the issue and render a final decision.
If SCOTUS rules that OSHA does not have the authority to impose vaccine mandates on government agencies, then we can celebrate because the mandate issue will have been completely disposed of; unless, of course, a later ruling out of SCOTUS holds otherwise.
What we really need to do is twist the arms of our elected officials in the state and federal legislatures so that they pass legislation that prohibits vaccine mandates wholesale... and then watch the issue go back to the court system for rulings on the constitutionality of said legislation. Government is not our friend.
Yeah baby! WHO said no to booster...now SCOTUS kills OSHA overreach. Serious progress to freeing this country from the tyranny the Biden Admin has imposed on it. (6-3 good, not great, but at least finally Roberts voted the right way)
This is separate from the federal contractor mandate, the one affecting me, but I don't see how any company could continue with that after this ruling.
They should be sued regardless. They forced people to take a experimental drug that had no long-term effectiveness. Also, it comes down to discrimination- the jabbed are just as likely to infect others as the unjabbed. As far as the jab reducing hospitalization and severity that’s only on those that are high risk, therefore, that’s a personal health issue not public.
If exemptions aren’t allowed people will get out of the profession. My daughter has already said if they don’t allow her a religious exemption she’s done!
Unfortunately I think this ruling means that thick-headed employers still have the right to fire the unvaxxed (unless in a state that has barred this by law). The ruling just means that Biden can't use OSHA to compel other employers to do it.
Sue them for discrimination. The jab does nothing long-term, the jabbed can infect and become infected just like the unjabbed. So what is the employers argument for mandatory jabs? It can’t be safety- and no employer can force me to take a drug t without some public safety justification.
I'm sorry about your sons' situations. Do you know that some doctors who recognize the adverse effects of the COVID vaccines are developing protocols for counteracting the adverse effects and putting these protocols online? It would be best for your sons to be proactive and use a protocol rather than waiting for adverse effects to become obvious.
Yes it sounds like this ruling was a mixed bag. Still though, if they hadn't blocked anything, then we have no more liberty any time the FedGov declares an "emergency" which would have been a bleak future in short order.
I do not see how it ends forced vaccinations. What it does, and Roberts and Kavanaugh should be massively ashamed of themselves (those are the public words I can say, I can not write the words I really want to say) is say that the Federal Government can FORCE pretty much ANYTHING on people if the Federal Government has a hand in paying for whatever it is. Experimental vaccines? No problem say Roberts and Kavanaugh, if the Feds pay for part of whatever it is you are doing. In the future, it will be the Health Care mandate that will prove to be VERY dangerous and much mor eimportant in eroding liberties.
You’re right. If we all eventually fall under federal health care where does that leave us in the future. Can Medicare impose vaccines in order to sign up for it? Geez, we’ve paid for it for everyone else for years. Now it’s our time, we might be fucked.
I have not had time to read it yet. Not sure how that changes anything. Just because the hospitals have been bought by Pfizer doesnt mean you do not do the right thing. And allowing the Federal Government to forcibly inject you with a still experimental vaccine-like substance is NOT the right thing to do, whether the hospitals take federal money or not. And it sets a VERY dangerous precedent. Not as dangerous as the OSHA rule would have (but that would have led to actual civil war), but dangerous nevertheless. More chipping at liberty. Chip chip chip. Kavanaugh is a disgrace.
Unfortunately, the court did allow a separate rule to take effect requiring shots for workers in nursing homes, hospitals and other facilities that receive Medicare and Medicaid payments from the federal government.
If you live in the U.S., please protest yourself. Many health care workers will quit or be fired rather than take the clot shots -- after all, many of them have seen the horrific "side effects" of the clot shots up close in their patients. Our health care system has already been badly damaged and losing another huge number of health care workers will cripple it even further. And the doctors, nurses, et al who comply with the mandates and keep working will be the most pharma-bought and pharma-propagandized people.
It ashame for your loved ones. My nephew talks about being overworked at long term care facility because they have vaxx mandates. In short, he taking care of far more older folks than 2019. The standard of care has gone down significantly.
they were misinformed about kids in hospitals. sotomajor was quoted as saying 100,000 kids are in hospital with covid. Someone should give her fauci's tape where he admits that almost all of them are for other reasons in hospitals but they test positive for covid. CDC guidelines have it upside down and calculate hospitalization based on tests WITH covid instead of hospitalized BECAUSE of covid. so someone could be in hospital because of a broken leg but because it tests positive for covid is reported as a covid case.
I expected the OSHA block because it was a massive overreach and would have invited abuse of all kinds from the agencies. However, why didn't they also block it for healthcare workers? These workers were out there day after day from the beginning of the pandemic to now. They were repeatedly exposed and many have had the virus. Why mandate the vaccines now? It makes no sense.
California is not allowing unvaxxed nurses to work. However, they are FORCING vaxxed nurses with ACTIVE COVID INFECTIONS to pick-up those shifts. It's totally nuts!
That’s a great case for a discrimination lawsuit. Further, the fact jabbed can transmit the disease as well as unjabbed - shows there is no scientific reason for an employer mandating it. The employer stating it’s for workplace safety no longer applies.
They kept the CMS mandate, as Roberts continues his activism an caring more about the fortunes of the court than the nation it serves. And the federal employee/contractor mandate is still out there.
These healthcare workers need to start suing based on discrimination. The jabbed can still infect and become infected, so it’s no longer about public safety - it’s about personal choice.
It's not killed but isn't it "stayed" by a Fed court at the moment? My employer at least seems to think so and is holding off on implementation pending outcome of that. One would hope it is on thin ice too at this point
It has been turning in Europe for at least a week -- Macron, Johnson all back peddling. The Great Rest group (Davos) is now having simulation for financial collapse. The COVID scam is almost over (we of course in Canada will be the last given Trudeau owns part of Acuitas Pharma--every jab $) but don't think the Build Back Better crowd won't try their next "crisis "
Amen. On Inauguration Day, 2021, legal scholar Ron Coleman had a bunch of Leftist crazies posting stuff on his Twitter feed about how "we are in control now". An observant Jew, Mr. Coleman rightly observed "You idiots! GOD is in control!"
Nothing makes his words ring more true than Omicron.
Sadly, by the movement of Roberts, they let stand the healthcare mandate. This is going to go far to erode any quality of health care and is not supported by any more science than the OSHA mandate. Criminal, both, IMO.
I wonder which justices who voted against Biden in the private employer mandate turned around and voted FOR him on the health care workers. This split decision will wind up making things WORSE for quality health care.
So basically every healthcare facility of government run. We are already full blown socialist in that regard. If a healthcare facility can't make their own decisions, then they're not private...as my hospital claims
Kavanagh and Roberts. Both voted against the private employer mandate and for the health care workers mandate. Go figure. (If I'm not mistaken, I *think* Kavanagh even wrote the opinion about the private employer mandate. Makes my head spin).
I really think that Pfizer is moving on to therapeutics. Their CEO made that pretty apparent the other day. Look for them to issue a statement blaming Trump for the failed vaccines by rushing them through the process.
Thank the Lord Jesus for the Supreme Court making the right decision by blocking Biden mandate. Now Lord we ask You to cancel the mandate for Healthcare workers Military and all others in this mandate In Jesus Name I Pray Amen
Yeah but Doctors and Nurses and other healthcare workers got screwed. It's time for the doctors to stop being so timid and accepting. I know a lot of them who are unvaxxed and silent.
I have a family member who is a very dedicated ICU nurse. She busted her tail working 100 hour weeks during the worst of COVID. She is now on the sidelines because she does not trust the vax. She is studying for her real estate license. A real loss to all of the patients out there.
This decision highlights that if you were to program a computer with every single point in the Constitution, fed this case into it, there wouldn't be these 6-3 decisions based on feelings. There is no ambiguity in the Constitution, as much as the left wants you to believe that to be true. This decision should have been 9-0, and while any victory is sweet, activist justices are destroying this country.
So relieved. So happy for all those living in fear anxiety. And this is a win too for those already vaxxed, as it was inevitable that mandates would come for boosters.
Yet another surreal moment and day on Terra Firma. I have been out of work since Aug 1 2020. Yeah, that's a long time. Ran out of severance pay. Ran out of unemployment. The state even tried to claw back money but I fought and won. FINALLY, after tons of applications etc a very large bank offered me a job. I chose the vax exemption. Just this afternoon after the great news I get a call from said mega large bank. Hey we were checking to see why you chose religious? I gave them my answer and mentioned the SCTOUS ruling and she goes I don't see how that is related? Umm. it has EVERYTHING to do with that. Now...even this job is in limbo. But I'm at peace because I NEVER not ONCE compromised my convictions.
I’d avoid any non-religious talk when discussing exemptions. A business unfortunately has a legal right to require vax regardless of this decision on OSHA. Your Exemption can be rejected if they think it is a political objection rather than religious.
My company said that they are doing this because it is the right thing to do and that they were doing it regardless of government rule. Will be interested to see if they stick with that message. I have 56 more days. Best of luck. Or can I guess where you are and ask where tomorrow puts you on 14 days unpaid leave? Prayers for all of us in this situation! We should not be forced to take an unproven and experimental shot in order to keep our jobs.
Unvaxxed health care workers are going to be even more pissed off due to this ruling, in which they were thrown under the bus. Interesting to see what they'll do next.
I’m so sorry. An unvaccinated nurse took care of my spouse who had severe covid and did a GREAT job. Breaks my heart to think this person could be fired. Awful.
Woo hoo America! My husband's job is on the line either way but he decided he doesn't want to work for these people anyway because it is unethical. He applied for five remote jobs and got all five interviews.
6-3 and not 9-0
The horrors of a liberal Supreme Court...
Three of those justices are utterly delusional. That indeed is scary.
But they heard about some of the blowback on the false statistics.
and yet still voted nonsensically, both from perspective of need (emergency) and constitutionality of mandating a medical procedure without informed consent, of private companies by a federal authority.
Not to mention an experimental, potentially lethal medical procedure!
with zero liability to the employer, govt., or pharma co.
Exactly
Supported their party and its fearless leader.
“Leader” is definitely not the right term but I hear ya!
poopy pants muppet, amiright?
They always vote as a pack because their loyalty is with their party.
Forced loyalty. It’s a party of thugs.
When they are supposed to support the law and constitution. Lady Justice is supposed to be blind.
Because Obama bin Biden told them to.
Not enough
They are controlled by those who elected them to these positions. They have no regard for the Constitution.
But how are they controlled? They have lifetime tenure.
Don't worry. The gang can always find the way to get back at them. Remember threats of physical violence uttered by Chucky Schumer(D) on the steps of the Supreme Court?
Controlled by threats of death---Simple.
That's another option but the money and power those in power have its easier and less risky to just bribe or blackmail the official e4specially since most can bought off for rather cheap.
Epstein didn’t kill himself.
Sure… as long as they are alive. There’s your control mechanism.
Bribery and/or blackmail. I will admit there are some who probably due it because the genuinely believe our system is evil and needs to be over thrown with some collectivist like system of governance but the majority are bribed with a decent number blackmailed and or both. Unlike normal bribery amongst non-government officials they get legalized bribery like inside trading which Congress made sure to give itself protection from a few years back. In fairness I could see the logic of why one would want to do this as it's easy to be indirectly invested in something that your could argue you benefit from being in elected office but that's not why they gave them self an exception to insider trading.
Obama only appointed people he had dirt on. That dirt can still be exposed, shaming them into retiring unless they vote a certain way. IMHO.
Delusional, yes, but mostly ignorant (I mean STUPID). The ridiculous ramblings of Sotomayor and Kagan were not only non-factual but they missed the point entirely--Mandate was unconstitutional regardless. As for the Medicare and Medicaid mandate to healthcare facilities, there is always a price for taking money from the federal government, but it still sucks. IMO, this may cause many docs and facilities to drop those patients.
We as patients should drop some of those doctors. Many "sang the song" and denied vital treatment and advice to patients. They don't deserve to see patients or even hold a medical license.
Do your prep now. Have a discussion with your PCP to ask if and whether they will prescribe early treatment. If not, find another doctor. It’s like living in a state hostile to your freedom, walk away.
Agree 💯! Sadly you can no longer bank on the medical community looking out for your best interest or best medical care...you really have to vet the doctors and the medical centers/hospitals they are affiliated with to make sure what their governing protocols are and what prescriptions/treatments they administer.
“The first step is to give up the illusion that the primary purpose of modern medical research is to improve Americans’ health most effectively and efficiently. In our opinion, the primary purpose of commercially funded clinical research is to maximize financial return on investment, not health.”
—John Abramson, M.D., Harvard Medical School
My PCP does not provide any treatment for COVID, but I have limited choices due to insurance. I would have to pay cash for a doc who will treat,. Honestly, would we not be better off with cash pay. If docs didn't get ripped off by Medicare and Medicaid, they could probably lower cash prices. Healthcare in America is a convoluted mess.
I think you might miss the point. You might be a medicaid/medicare beneficiary looking for a logical doctor willing to speak rationally about risk/reward of a covid shot, but under this ruling the only doctors allowed to take on such patients will be those who submitted to being jabbed themselves. They will have been baptized by pharma so to speak. You choice of doctor will be severely limited to only the covidian cultists.
Ah yes, I see. A nuance I did not pick up on... Thank you!
A fear of mine anyway. My wife will leave healthcare before being jabbed as will I. I’m afraid this may be at least part of the plan. To get rid of people like us so patients have limited choice.
They already are, read Robert Yoho's BUTCHERED BY HEALTHE CARE, he covers all the bases.
Amen!!
This should be a striking illustration to everyone as to the individual liberty that is ceded every time the federal government seizes more power and control over private entities (in this instance, the government takeover of healthcare through Medicaid Medicare Obamacare etc.). We don’t just create a government program. We give them leverage to limit your personal choices and seize control of your life!
Absolutely and very scary! Well said!
Good comment.
You are so right! Avoid federal $$ whenever possible. Unfortunately, the feds have little by little over the years infiltrated far too many areas of our lives.
Government contracts are a seemingly great income source yet can have many consequences.
I hope this outcome will spur the opening of providers and facilities offering services that exclude government funding and middlemen.
Seems like if you spent 40+ years paying into medicare, you should be able to see a free-thinking, unbaptized doctor too.
Exactly. And why should I as a provider have to turn away anyone over the age of 65 just because I don’t want or need a particular jab? I pay into it, same as you and everyone does.....and none with option to opt out.
That outcome would be the best solution to a bad situation
Like some of my clients: they give me a little money and think they own me. ::-(
I'm going to keep treating them for now. My state association claims that this does not effect my practice.
maybe karma will boomerang and kill em with their own medicine...give em a lethal dose of mrna and continual CVD infections
Yes, 2 weeks in AB pain, not seen the Gastro in almost 3 yrs, he doesn't require I see him yearly, but the once every 3 yr Medicare/Tricare Life, hub served 20 yrs in the USN for, dictates 3 yrs between Upper Endoscope, for a multitude of GI issues. Unless you get sick, we moved out of a major Blue county to a small rural one, so a 2 hr drive + wait time, not been GI sick, Express Scripts just calls for refills. Even my Cardio is once a year, if only to run a EKG he understands the system better. ENDO/ENT/ Ophthalmologist every 6 months or by what the lab work says. Hub sees the Ophthalmologist and Glaucoma doc on their time tables. Until Trump made the Vietnam Navy, Vietnam Vets, he didn't put them under Agent Orange, along with heavy metal solvents, created huge eye damage. Flight Deck hearing damage is VA disability. Our OOP expenses get larger every year, as congress takes a sharp knife to promised benefits.
I'm hearing that the Feds aren't reimbursing for Medicare expenses at the current time in the way that they should either. That claims filed aren't being reimbursed. Medical institutions are being left scrambling to cover their expenses.
I think we may be about to see the collapse of major government programs--and I'm concerned about what this will do to my parents' and other retirees' healthcare.
That happened under Obama too. Many waited 6 months to be paid. I lived under the no safety net, in my 30's. at 73, I couldn't do it, been disabled since I was 58. Our statements showed paid, we get what Medicare covers separate from Tricare Life. A doc who fails to file on time eats the Tricare. We get told they don't take it, WELL they HAVE TO.
You maybe looking at Great Depression 2. I've been slowly stocking, rotating so it doesn't get wasted by out of date. Since they called the election.
More like fascists.
Low IQ Prog tools.
The data the spouted was a bunch of absolutely jaw dropping lies.
Basically Commie Dem PO S!
Which 3? Wait, let me guess...shouldn't be too hard...
Nine of these Justices have nothing to fear, they are set for life...
You folks have no idea what people in power and authority really think, and do, every day of late. And, they haven't been vaccinated, they know it is a risk!
they're the ones driving masked alone in their car.
I just shake my head when I see a person wearing a mask in their car or worse out jogging or biking by themselves. They may not get COVID but they will eventually realize the consequences of continually re-breathing in their own bad breath.
Only a 95 mask (which most don't wear) has a stronger ability to stop such a virus and those are much worse regarding breathing impairment. I got Omicron over Christmas break and recovered in less than a week and took third at a national fencing competition last Saturday. I haven't been Jabbed. How is that possible? I should have been hospitalized or dead according to FJB. It's better for the Un Jabbed who haven't acquired natural immunity to get Omicron.
I had what I believe was Omicron--no tests or sites available at moment. Upon getting a slight sore throat, I immediately began the FLCCC protocol of povidone iodine nasal rinse and gargle, continued the list of supplements and added the suggested one aspirin per day. Knocked that baby out within 3 or 4 days, only ran a fever for one or two of those days, and I am in the "high-risk" category. I give most credit to the povidone iodine rinse and gargle. I am not saying this virus should not be taken seriously, but if you are armed with knowledge and prepared with supplies, you will be OK in most cases. I did not have the money to go to an online doc and then pay for Ivermectin and such so adopted the much maligned practice of (guided) self care. Re: masks, whether it be physical or psychological or a combo, I can't wear them for more than maybe a half an hour, N95 maybe 15 mins.
I also followed FLCCC Protocols including 15 mg of Ivermectin a day for 5 days. My symptoms were headache, fatigue, back aches and cough with some phlegm. I might have had a slight temperature the first day. I never got tested at that time but passed a Rapid Antigen test the Friday before the tournament ( 1 week ago).
So true.
I have met Breyer. He seemed to me perfectly intelligent and rational. Well, that was 10 years ago.
That makes is worse. When he said in Friday's arguments that the vax is "100% effective" in stopping transmission he was misleading deliberately. No way we're convinced that he's stupid enough to actually believe it.
Another side effect of the vaccine... dropping IQ
Either that or political
Two are Obama appointees. He only nominated people he had leverage over with some kind of dirt found or fabricated by his corrupt lackeys at IRS and FBI. He was going to appoint Garland to SCOTUS, need I say more? Ok, he had the goods on Hillary and Joe. Enough to put them in prison like he did to Illinois Governor Blagojevich because he didn’t appoint who Obama wanted to fill his Senate seat. He emasculated NJ Senator Menendez for opposing the moronic Iran nuclear deal by prosecuting his physician friend for Medicare fraud. Menendez backed down and Harry Reid dropped the ethics charges.
breyer soto kagan.
80 million R voters thinking a Repugnocant President will chose a true qualified candidate!…
I believe they try to choose qualified candidates, but they often go rogue once on the court.
When she was nominated law professor Lawrence Tribe said of Sotomayor that she "is not as smart as she thinks she is, and something of a bully". They knew.
Oh, yes, they did know about Sotomayer, Kagan and Breyer. I was speaking of the choices made by conservative leaning presidents.
No argument here. Even to us on the right it's inarguable that Trump's track record in appointments and personnel matters was pathetic. It's something people really need to think hard about before nominating him again. I was pleasantly surprised that Amy Comey-Barrett came out on the right side of both cases.
I would vote for Trump again! He is not perfect, no one is, but I believe he did the best he could while being attacked, undermined and sabotaged from all sides. He was not prepared for that not having been a Washington insider. Conservatives were all pulling for Amy Coney-Barrett and in many cases she has been a huge disappointment. I too was glad she came out on the right side of the vaccine mandate cases.
This is one of the reasons I voted for Trump in 2016 and was grateful he won. This part of his legacy will benefit the country for a long time.
It is unfortunate we didn't win on the "health care" mandate as well. Many health care workers have been hung out to dry.
This should be a striking illustration to everyone as to the individual liberty that is ceded every time the federal government seizes more power and control over private entities (in this instance, the government takeover of healthcare through Medicaid Medicare Obamacare etc.). We don’t just create a government program. We give them leverage to limit your personal choices and seize control of your life!
can they use medical or religious exemptions?
Yes, many institutions (like mine) allow religious or medical exemptions and they likely will continue to allow them. But for some workers who lost their jobs because of the mandate, they’re now out of luck, I think. Very, very disappointed in Justices Kavanaugh and Roberts.
Kavanaugh, disappointed doesn't adequately describe my feelings. Roberts, figured it out with his Obamacare decision, expect nothing from him, pleasantly surprised with his ruling no on the OSHA mandate.
Yes, but Does not matter. I refuse to be forced to test every week. Do you see? For the rest of my career, every week. At my own expense. PCR only accepted at my job. $100 per after govt stops covering. I make roughly $30k. I support myself. I support others. It’s not just about the injustice .
Say NO. They need you more than you need them.
Well, it is about the injustice when looking at the Constitution and the fact that we expect privacy regarding our medical/healthcare decisions and illness or wellness. No argument that the financial burden and the high probability of false positives from the PCR tests are huge issues, but for me the larger issue is medical privacy. I do not know current rules, but forever and ever HIV+ patients were not required to disclose their status in any situation (with possible exception of purposefully infecting someone). IMO, HIV poses a much greater risk in general than COVID currently does.
I read that Biden admin plans to keep a registry of those who received religious exemptions. Hmmmmm
I'd read that as well. Frightening.
1000%
Trump's Blue-Light Federalist Society noms are also why the election was stolen from us in 2020. They all lied that Texas had no "standing" to contest the coup d'etat. In effect, they've now rubber-stamped a subversive "right" of states to steal state & federal elections, disenfranchise their own voters & those of other states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_light_federalists
He lost because of massive vote fraud that has already been outed and proven in the six contested states. There was also proven vote fraud in New Hampshire, questioned vote fraud in New Mexico and Virginia. Biden did NOT win the election; Trump did.
NO WAY IN HELL BIDEN GOT MORE VOTES THAN OBAMA
You got that right.
No kidding, Sherlock.
No kidding. All three of Trump's Blue-Light Federalist Society picks claimed Texas had no "standing". A big lie.
How would you suggest he have done differently? Who do you trust to give you advice on this. If several state legislatures would have done what was right and not certified the election results of their states,the SC would have been out of it. Michigan had a Republican majority in their Legislature and they still certified the election. They had 1000’s of signed affidavits stating eye witness fraud and they ignored it. Now it’s locked away and they claim the public can not review it. My point is the GOP swamp is just as deep as the Dems. Who could Trump trust. Hindsight is always 20/20.
Trump's a babble-bungling narcissist & accomplice to mass murder. Why make excuses for him? He never vetted ANYONE, even the vetters. He trusted corrupt Mitch McCornhole & HIRED his corrupt ChiCom collaborator wife as SecTrans. He hired, nominated & endorsed deep snake assholes for the entire 4 years right to the end. e.g.
Wray
Ruby Ridge Bill Barr
Scaramucci
Kelley
Mattis
Tillerson
John McStain
McCornhole-Chao
Lindsey Graham
Pierre Delecto (formerly Mitt Romney)
Hundreds more traitors.
Could he really Pfuck up that much without trying?
I could see fraud coming for months ahead of the election. I wonder how seriously Trump took it beforehand or maybe he thought he had enough votes to beat the fraud? It was too late afterwards and they used January 6th to tamp down any dissent.
Amen. I’m not impressed by Monday morning armchair quarterbacks.
NH native here. I loathe Biden but I loathe Trump more, that’s why Trump lost. Suburban women, not fraud. Sorry.
Suburban mom here. I voted for Trump. Almost didn’t the first time, but very happily did the second time! And all other suburban moms I now also voted for him…twice!!!!
You are wrong. There is now an avalanche of documentation that proves there was massive vote fraud. I left Nevada out in my list of states. Steven Crowder sent teams to check on addresses and there were citizen groups who researched the voter rolls. There were thousands of the dead, the those living in vacant lots and on median strips on the highway, those who had moved out of the state long before, and duplicate ballots to sway the election to Biden.
Also, it wasn’t a coincidence that polls shut down in the key states with Trump winning. This had never been done before and should never have been permitted.
Nevadan here - I literally watched the numbers allocated to each candidate change throughout the night WITHOUT the percent of precincts reporting change. How does that math?
“Our evidence has never been refuted, only ignored.” Jesse Binnall Federal litigation Attorney in a Senate hearing. https://vimeo.com/491797614
If you're following the data coming out of the election integrity investigations, you quickly realize that it wasn't just 7 states where there was fraud (although 7 states did have egregious amounts of fraud): it was all of them. Oklahoma had the least amount of fraud --but still significant fraud.
The fraud in Nebraska resulted in an electoral vote going to Biden that shouldn't ever have been in question, and should have gone for Trump. Nebraska votes almost solid Republican except for one part in Omaha, yet if you look at just the 2020 election results, you might gain the mistaken impression that the state now votes "purple."
Every state's election fraud looks a little different, but it all amounts to the same thing: we have to clean up our elections or none of our votes will ever count again.
White, middle aged, college educated suburban woman here. I voted for him twice. Didn't always like his public speeches or his mannerisms but I didn't hire him to be saccharine and pandering.
Pure BS. But, if that’s what you’re going with, I hope all you Suburban women are happy now.
Look at the policies not the man.
Exactly! Trump's policies kept us safer, gave us energy independence, gave us full employment with rising wages, closed the border to illegal immigration, removed MS13 gang members and deported them, started a real peace process in the Middle East with Israel and several Arab countries. His accomplishments are lengthy and positive for the country and for world stability. What has Biden done except to undermine all of this.
I lived in NYC when Nixon won his election. I was too young to vote at the time but everyone, EVERYONE, around me was shocked Nixon had won because no one knew anyone who had voted for him. You may believe the USA is composed of enough suburban women to have given Biden the presidency but I assure you that isn't the case. You live in a bubble if you believe that. When Biden had political rallies you could count those who turned out to hear him on two hands. Really. Remember those circles painted on the tarmac? There were so few people there they had to fill the parking lots with cars to make it look like there was an actual turnout. Contrast that with the turnout for each and every Trump rally. People got in line days before the event and at the rally there were people as far as the eye could see.
And you still worship Trump now that you know he's an accomplice to mass murder.
You’re a perfect example of why 19A must be repealed if we’re ever gonna regain liberty.
You can have a safe, educated, prosperous and free society … or you can enfranchise women. Women vote to be taken care of with the welfare state (unfunded liabilities for Medicare & SocSec = $240T.) They vote for progs and get BLM & open borders & defunded cops. They vote for demented idiots because the other guy is “mean.” Screw liberty, prosperity, human rights and energy independence. As long as the guy isn’t mean.
did anyone see bidens speach earlier this week from georgia? bleachers behind him filled with blacks all wearing giant masks and all he did was try to stir up racial prejudice and inequities and bringing up the past of slavery etc while the camera kept panning in the audience to jesse jackson etc.. For the amazing black ppl that I know and my black pastor who I LOVE! It is embarassing to see this play out. I am so damn tired of ppl being affected by the same old dog and pony show trying to stir up racial divide. But then of course it's all OBABMA DOING THIS SINCE 2008.
How wonderfully misogynistic of you.
Oh--here we go with this again. No, ALL women aren't "out to get you." I think you'd be amazed at how very many women vote conservatively--and always will. If half the population of our country (the entire female half) had decided to join those disgusting parades of pink hats after the 2016 election, can you imagine the size of the crowds?
The pink hat marchers didn't represent even 1% of women in this country. Just because they were loud didn't mean that represented the rest of us.
Moving on...Election fraud has been going on for quite a while now. Do you know whose votes the leftists are mostly stealing? Looking at a map of the election fraud in our state, it's clear that they're stealing the votes of poor people and retirees, half of whom are...WOMEN.
I think--we're all in this together. We need to stop trying to stab each other in the back over stuff we can't help--like our gender.
Truer words ….
I’ve been wondering just how much of Covid HYSTERIA is due to the feminist Cultural Revolution which forced women out of their homes and into the workforce.
No, both.
How is that winner bidet working out for you?
Wrong.
As you should be.
Did you actually vote?
When I "liked" this post, there were 45 before me! :)
Not to mention the 4 years of lies and deceit perpetrated by the media and social media against Trump and not reporting on all the achievements he had.
You got that right. I was suspicious of Trump in 2016 but I knew all about Hillary. I held my nose and voted for Trump. Over the four years I came to admire him and loved his policies. I shudder to think what kind of police state we would have become under Hillary. The woman is vicious and this has been well documented in any number of books. She also loves money. Check out Peter Schweitzer's book "Clinton Cash." President Trump has a deep respect for the Constitution and Federalism. This is why he did not call out the National Guard for all those cities that were burning and restore order. He was waiting for their state and local governments to request help. Personally, I think this was a mistake and he should have followed President Eisenhower's example when he called out the National Guard to protect the students integrating the high school in Little Rock. President Trump had to work against almost insurmountable head winds of the MSM, Big Tech, Democrats, and lawsuits. He has to be the most investigated president in history and they have found nothing although they have made up much and insinuated a whole lot.
I agree with what you're saying. I didn't like either choice however Trump was the better choice. I grew to like him for his polices and no nonsense approach. I could not stand, and still can not stand the way he goes on about everything he's done. STOP!!! I do not want to hear it anymore. I would still be supporting him however he's standing by "his vaccine" claiming it's safe. I will not support ANYONE who doesn't acknowledge the truth about the poison.
Yes, totally agree. I shudder to think where we would be if Hillary won. And no doubt Trump is no Saint, but he loves America and touted it repeatedly, despite whatever black days in our history and problems we have as a nation...he loves America. He worked to secure the boarder, he worked to make us energy independent and a top energy exporter, he valued the average American and didn't look down his nose at them, and our international adversaries knew he meant business. He was treated unfairly for sure. He did put his eggs in the Fauci/Birx basket for covid which was a mistake. Was it ignorance...hard to tell. Wish he called more upon people like Dr Atlas and Dr Makary instead of establishment bureaucrats.
That totally makes up for being an accomplice to mass murder. Not.
"I just had a GREAT meeting with Jack Dorsey!"
"I'm watching internet censorship very closely."
"I'm thinking about reversing Obama's executive order that exempted congress from Obamacare."
Trump is full of bullshit. And the worst of his bullshit, the "safe & effective" lie, makes him an accomplice to mass murder. NONE of his accomplishments can make up for that.
Trump had his faults no doubt but the government institutions are really to blame.
Sorry, you are delusional.
One of the great items for future historians to ponder will be the degree to which this country suffered immensely for the sole reason that Donald Trump invested exactly ZERO intellectual curiosity into who he was appointing to key positions.
Yep. Best face I can put on it.
The 3 shouldn't be surprising especially given the ignorance they displayed a couple of days ago. However, I do agree we need a Supreme Court in which getting 3 votes favoring the mandate would be an impossibility.
Just imagine if leftist Merrick Garland hadn't been blocked from confirmation during Obama's last year in office. For once, McConnell did something right.
Yeah those three were asking questions for show. Their decisions were made when the ideological lines were drawn 18 months ago.
Nixon must release the tapes! 9-0.
Dr. Tony Mengele Fauci can't force-inject you. Meh, 6-3.
Mandates will still be enforced for healthcare workers in many instances, eff Joe Biden, John Robets and Brett K.
More healthcare facilities have to stop taking Medicare and Medicaid patients. A private healthcare facility can avoid the mandates. And it seems like they would have quite a selection of doctors and nurses from which to hire.
But can a parallel healthcare system develop if the totally compromised medical boards are allowed to take away their licenses?
Getting rid of the corruption in the institutions like the FDA, the CDC, the medical boards, et. al. is another fight.
A parallel system would require a separate licensing agency for practitioners.
I'd be afraid to enter hospitals driven by govt mandate policies....they'd look at me like a $100k Lotto ticket in short order. Kill the bastard with remdesivir and a few days on the ventilator and we've got CHA--CHING! BONUSES! Do yourself a favor and TAKE INCREDIBLE CARE OF YOUR HEALTH.
Americans have never had such a high incentive to take charge of their health!
Cash for covid scalps.
Here is the rub….the insurance companies….they are quietly complicit in this medical malpractice.
YEP, AND DONT FORGET AARP, they were all on board for obamacare BS
Yup, there’s one organization I will never be a member of. My parents cancelled their membership when they started supporting Obamacare. #votewithyourdollars
Perhaps the massive life insurance payments they are making for the jab deaths will change their minds about effective early treatments.
Compliance will only beget more Tyranny. I guess SCOTUS is too stupid to understand.
As just pointed out by Clay and Buck, if Hillary had won in 2016 and had the opportunity to appoint her communist justices (like Garland) we’d be looking at the opposite outcome right now. History hangs on a thread.
Reagan was never more right about us being one election away from socialism...or worse.
Just like the Florida election that brought us DeSantis. It was a very close race, but it has made all the difference in this pandemic.
#LoveMyGov
#MakeAmericaFlorida
He is just a wonderful man and governor. If he wants to be president, I think he will succeed.
I hope so! I can't think of a person I'd rather have as our next president.
So true
but then, there would have been no Covid viruses release on the masses. We'd probably be bowing to some middle eastern leader.
All 3 of those commie crazy justices won approval votes of a majority of Republican Senators. And the Senators all knew better. Cowardice is lethal.
Yes, it is. We need to have a zero tolerance policy for commies.
The 3 CNN Justices!
Oh, that's good. From now on, they're the CNN justices.
. . . ?? MSM justices. . . a new acronym I have learned in the last week!
Wait till they pack it
Liberalism in general is based on the premise of ‘you are not smart enough to do what’s right, or to take care of yourself properly, so WE must do it for you’ all the while selling themselves as the open-minded tolerant faction that will let you do whatever you want.
Liberalism is actually a misnomer because their policies are in direct opposition to liberty.
Ironically I agree with you and yet I'm a lifelong liberal. Strange times indeed.
The definition has changed. What's now called conservatism is actually classical liberalism. From the 70's to the earlier 2000s, the religious right dominated the conservative movement, but now most conservatives don't care about social issues like gay marriage, and many support things like marijuana legalization. They're main concern is limiting the size and overreach of government.
I'd say that a lot more conservatives still do care about that than you may think (gay marriage). In fact--let's make a distinction here: not all conservatives are Christian, but--Christian conservatives do feel pretty strongly about this, and do comprise a significant share of Trump's support.
The Bible has some pretty strong words for anyone promoting sin: "the wages of sin is death." If you believe what the Bible teaches, then... you won't be on board with sin regardless of the sin, no matter what or who tries to muzzle your voice. Conservative Christian voices being muzzled is not and can never be counted the same as them agreeing with or giving consent to sin.
Did you know that you can still go to the Dead Sea and see the devastation for yourself that God visited on Sodom and Gomorrah? The ruins are still there. So is the sulfur brimstone. The nodules found in the ashes of the ruins are extraordinarily pure--like nothing else found in nature.
Maybe--it isn't conservatives' assent to sin that anyone should be concerned about. Maybe--each of us should be far, far more concerned about what God thinks about it, and about what God wants from us.
God doesn't actually need any of us to enforce His own laws.
Christians stand witness and testify to what is good and right and true because we are called to do so and out of love for our fellow human beings. We'd rather not see anyone made subject to His holy and righteous judgment who can instead be rescued and redeemed. We are fortunate in trusting and believing that there is a God who loves humans enough and is patient and long-suffering enough to rescue us from our own sinful bent to self-destruction instead of just summarily destroying us all--but that rescue requires a choice, and each of us must choose to make it. And God's patience with us is--as He has warned--a temporary thing. It won't last forever.
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That's one of the silver linings of this pandemic debacle. People are laying aside ideology to once again agree on what is rational. I am sure that I disagree with Alex on many, many topics, but he has earned my respect in ways few individuals ever have.
Sounds like you were on board with the marketing of being a liberal, but not what has turned out to be their actual realities.
Are you a lifelong liberal, or a lifelong libertarian?
I'm a liberal libertarian :) https://tamhunt.medium.com/what-is-left-libertarianism-7bc2e03c99eb
The author lost me (very near the beginning of the essay) when he referred to Noam Chomsky with admiration. Though Chomsky at one time was widely considered to a brave truth-teller, at this point he's morphed into a perfect shill for government propaganda, at least as far as covid and the poison injections are concerned.
I used to consider myself a member of the theoretical "far-left," but now I say I'm "politically unaligned."
Yeah it's interesting how Chomsky has joined the Covid maximalist camp. And disappointing. I also interviewed him on these issues and did not like his answers. But that all said I am still proudly a Chomskyan left libertarian b/c even if Chomsky got Covid very wrong it doesn't undermine his intellectual edifice more generally. https://tamhunt.medium.com/noam-chomsky-on-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-government-responses-be8301359dbb
Really?! Are you serious?! I think Chomsky's rabid pro-vax stance and all that goes with it - the vicious demonization of anti-vaxers, etc. - completely destroys his legacy.
And I don't say this just about Noam Chomsky. I feel this way about every single journalist, writer, and public intellectual who previously had been outspoken, courageous, willing to speak the bitter truth to power, who currently adopts and endorses the propaganda from the government about covid and the "vaccines.
There are legions of people like this. I believe the CIA has taken control of the "independent" media in all its various guises. I suspect this has been gradually happening for decades, but has become more widespread in recent years. There's simply no explanation for their universal, slavish adherence to the official narrative otherwise.
well said and its not like msm is putting him on air EVER
Yep total party lines with morons like Sotomayor and Kagan in the minority. Wonder if anyone clued Sotomayor in on the actual figures of children in the hospital...
WaPo gave her four pinocchios so I'm pretty sure she got the memo! https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/08/sotomayors-false-claim-that-over-100000-children-are-serious-condition-with-covid/
🤥🤥🤥🤥 and counting 😅!!
SOTOMEYER had to be corrected by the lying CDC director and that burst the dam on the lies, 75% of those hospitalized had 4 Comorbidities.
Well and that's not even the issue (besides her being grotesquely ill-informed, as you point out). The issue is that she believes that rule of law should be ignored by health officials, and they should be allowed to basically do what they want.
And grossly incompetent. Amazing she's a supreme court Justice...placed there for political and ideological reasons, not legal talent
Not necessarily liberal, more like WEF puppets.
Compliance will only beget more Tyranny. I guess SCOTUS is too stupid to understand.
Law is made complicated for job security ... they can not rule if there is no request. So they will rule on the constitutionality when that case is presented, for now they only ruled on the overreaching cases
Breakdown?
Holy shit it's officially over. I don't even live in the states but I'm going to pop a bottle. Happy for you guys.
Definitely not over, they'll figure out 100 more ways to get their way. And yes, if you live in a complete shithole state like I do, forget about it. Newsom in CA is already planning to mandate in the broadest way possible, starting with all children.
No reason to be blackpilled about this. This is a win. Celebrate and on to the next one. There's no data to support any vaccination at all, not to mention mandates. The pandemic is over but they just keep poking it with a stick. After omicron is over in a few weeks, so is this circus.
From your lips to God’s ears, may it be so.
I want to agree with you. But I’m too jaded. Nothing about the last 2 years has been logical or data-driven. Alex wrote the book on that. :)
I hope you're right...
And then the focus needs to be on November.
Yes, and in every LOCAL election everywhere.
We need to be vigilant before November and melt Congress’s phone lines down, repeatedly, with the flood of calls and send so many emails their inbox quotas are exceeded. They will try to create the authority for OSHA to effect this mandate as well as every other socialist thing they want. They only have to win once, before November and get it signed into law, even if they lose across the board in November (assuming we have anything remotely resembling a legitimate election come November). We have to win every single time to preserve a free country.
I think that's the optimistic response, but I see too much else still happening everywhere and the U.S. will never be an outlier in this mess. I believe states will follow.
There has never been any data and look where we are. And with all of the exposure we have now, many (and I mean many) people are still scared to death and pro-mandate. Go ahead, try using logic--it hasn't worked yet. Sorry to be so negative, but I have read too much to think we'll get out it this that easily.
https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/indiana-alex-jones-and-the-last-conspiracy?r=biv2x&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Exactly. MSM stokes fear, groupthink, and emotion and that's how people make decisions; not based on logic or critical thinking.
But they'll claim the vaxxes did it.
And suckers will believe them.
It IS a win - can you imagine if it has been upheld?
Ok, it's "a win." I wouldn't celebrate just yet and think that the fight is over.
Yup -- I heard that it goes down to the state level now, i.e., each state can have its own mandates. But at least I hope those could be thrown out too. Or at least they wouldn't be mandated in the first place now that Covid seems to be burning out in severity.
I don't for one minute trust the insane nutjob who "governs" Oregon. I'm getting my exemption ready.
Medical or religious? Supposedly religious are easier to get (because how do you prove someone's beliefs?) although they do get denied sometimes. Check out Berenson's substack where different readers chimed in on what did/n't work for them to get an exemption from their "overlords".
Yes, the whole west coast is going down. Make sure exemptions will be allowed!
I really hope so, but from the beginning there has been a huge disconnect between the data and logic and what the leaders are doing. If Newsom thinks he has the support, he'll continue to push the agenda.
He'll continue to push the agenda regardless of what the people think.
He has the support of the powers who brought us the pandemic and "vaccines" in the first place. That's all the support he needs to stay in office.
Newsom views not being recalled as a “mandate from the masses” to do all the crazy he wants.
Agreed!
Make tracks for a sane state and leave the shithole to the derelicts. Problem solved.
How much will you take before you leave? Grab the children and run for your lives.
Agree they will try more nonsense and especially at the blue state level but Fed mandates are going to be very tough to implement losing this one 6-3. States it will be a challenge in many
We need to start boycotting businesses that implement their own mandates.
Agreed. Already doing so in a way by not sending my kids to any colleges with mandates (made easier for now being in Texas.)
Also agreed. I got kicked out of Menard's for not wearing a mask last May, after I had already been vaccinated. I now shop at Home Depot exclusively or Fleet Farm. Anywhere, but sheeple-home shop, mask-up Menard's.
It is not over. This decision merely serves as a guidepost for how to go about imposing vaccine mandates that will be immune (see what I did?) to legal attacks.
The beginning of the end, though. There's a lot to fight for still, but let's let ourselves celebrate for a sec.
Stay positive - whole different ballgame if this hadn't happened.
They don't have enough time. It's over. Omicron was the gravestone and they already ran out of time for their swan song.
You can't possibly believe that the One World Order crew are just going to roll over and give up on their plans for world domination. They still have climate change, massive immigration into the West, renegade countries like Russia, Iran, and North Korea, terrorist groups such as ISIS, and the evil Christian White Man to use as justifications for pushing their agenda. And if none of those bogeymen work, they'll invent new ones.
it will go to the states now and they can rule so if you live in a democrat state
I’m celebrating, too, however, each state still has the authority to set their own rules. Unfortunately, I live in Bill Gates’ home state and am afraid we are going to see some of the strictest mandates in the country 🥺
Gates himself said today that after omicron they switch to flu/endemic.
Right below you in Commie Brown's state. Can we put her, Inslee, and Newsom on an iceberg somewhere?
I fear kingslee will fill in the blanks that will make CA jealous 😣
Oh, I don’t know if I’m confident that it’s dead, dead yet.
Last paragraph from https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
“The applications for stays presented to JUSTICE KAVANAUGH and by him referred to the Court are granted. OSHA’s COVID–19 Vaccination and Testing; Emergency
Temporary Standard, 86 Fed. Reg. 61402, is stayed pending disposition of the applicants’ petitions for review in the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit and disposition of the applicants’ petitions for writs of certiorari, if such writs are timely sought. Should the petitions for writs of certiorari be denied, this order shall terminate au- tomatically. In the event the petitions for writs of certiorari are granted, the order shall terminate upon the sending down of the judgment of this Court.”
It’s a win not just for the US but for democracies everywhere.
Biden Administration will never admit it, but SCOTUS just did them a huge political favor.
You are absolutely right. I am sure Dems will use this as an excuse to pack the court. I am an old fashioned Dem wanting to look out for the average person. I have zero in common with these wealthy aristocrats hiding behind a dem veneer
I don't think so. You'll hear some blustering to that point but polls have shown stiff resistance to this idea. Do you really think Manchin and Sinema would go along with that scheme?
Manchin and Sinema won’t do it because it would be political suicide for them.
Exactly--very good point-- but they had to make it look real so the three crazy Dems on the bench voted dissenting opinions.
So true.
Can you imagine if this had gone the other way with it becoming more obvious by the hour that the vax is worthless against Omicron? The blowback would have been insane.
indeed! Still this won't stop them from doing non-scientific actions and promoting unneeded fear for their own gain at the expense of those subjected to it. They won't stop- they will just find a new way. Another future state of emergency / crisis to usurp power and extract profit.
Biden's bizarre doubling-down press conference this morning tells me that at least for the moment the COVID Crazies have won the internal White House debate over the Electoral Realists. This will mean more painful harassment over the coming months, but ultimately a total bludgeoning at the polls. Part of me can't believe that they've chosen this path.
Among reasonably smart people, yes, blowback.
But most people still don't get the worthlessness of "THE VAXX."
It’s amazing after the last few weeks that as many people still believe the vaccines prevent infections as think Joe Biden got 81 million votes
The supply chain pileup in February as well as workers forced to stay home because tests took too long to come back would have been brutal
Annnnd cue the Class Action lawsuits against the employers who already pseudo enforced this 'rule' which was really just a press release. I hope a whole bunch of lawyers working as general counsel at these corporations have already been relieved of their position.
Yep! They inflicted workers with an experimental jab with no proven long-term effectiveness or Long-term safety. If I was an attorney, I’d start advertising for business. Big Pharma might be able to skirt responsibility but employers can’t be.
It's exciting to see one mandate blocked. But it doesn't stop the mandates for health care workers, federal employees, or the military. And the military isn't approving any religious exemptions. The fight isn't over yet.
The military has already had vaccine mandates for other illnesses and almost no religious exemption requests were approved. This mandate has called attention to this and there is current litigation regarding the failure of the military to follow the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act that is showing favorable results. As for healthcare workers, there is a severe shortage which leaves the employees in the driver’s seat. The smart ones will apply for religious and/or medical exemptions which will likely be liberally approved due to the shortage.
I saw today that Biden will have a federal agency begin asking employers for lists of those who used the religious exemption. HMMM They will have to bring in the national guard to a lot of hospitals
Like I did. I am hopeful that my employer (a large-ish healthcare system) will allow my religious exemption to remain.
I do watch for the Feds to try and mandate it for anyone who gets a dollar from the government or something like that
It’s not over.
Scotus did say the health care workers one must have religious exemptions and medical exemptions and exemptions for tele health.
And there’s an ongoing lawsuit against the military which did get a win last week from lower court for religious exemptions.
The Federal Contractor mandate is still stayed so that one is the next big one
Seeing the CMS one upheld worries me. And may mean that the federal contractor and federal employee mandates have a very slim chance too. I’m relieved to see the OSHA one blocked. But this is far from over when a vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission or infection can continue to be forced on people in other corners.
This will destroy an already decimated health care industry. Maybe independent practices will start popping up again.
Independent practices, yes. And some medicos are already working on setting up alternative clinics and hospitals where unvaccinated health care workers can work and unvaccinated patients are not discriminated against...and the vaccine-injured can get their injuries recognized and treated. America's Frontline Doctors is one organization working on alternative health care systems, but there are several others working on this as well. Look here for info:
AFLDS: https://aflds.org/medicalfreedom/
AAPS: https://aapsonline.org/join-aaps/
Pharmacies: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/covid/freedom-pharmacy-intake/
Idaho: https://independentdocsid.com/Member-List
Good. So when my insurance company drops my unvaxxed ass, I will bank all that premium money and probably get better healthcare.
Can you provide information on these practices and how we can get involved to make it happen?
Here are some links for information:
AFLDS: https://aflds.org/medicalfreedom/
AAPS: https://aapsonline.org/join-aaps/
Pharmacies: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/covid/freedom-pharmacy-intake/
Idaho: https://independentdocsid.com/Member-List
maybe that's a good thing?
Independent practices still bill medicare medicaid so that won't work.
They can refuse those patients.
That's a huge chunk of their revenue and everyone 65 and older is essentially forced to sign up for Medicare. You can reject but they penalize for life if you ever want to use Medicare insurance. We need to go to cash pay.
We had an HSA before we were forced into Medicare. I’d much rather have the HSA. And lots of doctor’s practices refuse to see Medicare and Medicaid patients. That leaves them in charge of their own billing and Medicare doesn’t run their practice
Direct Primary Care is one way to go: https://www.dpcare.org/ Healthcare sharing is another way to go, like https://www.chministries.org/ (There are other non-faith-based organizations.) But being Medicare eligible or definitely if you're on Medicaid, it changes the rules and/or "owns" you.
I wish I lived in America.
Get your ass to a few miles south of the Rio Grande River and walk across with the rest of the World.
😂😂😂😂! Yeah we need more illegals with common sense!
Remember America started the virus, funded its release and bullied the world to obeying WHO, CDC dictates. It is only fitting that they would end it-- as the litigation keeps piling up and will be coming after all the apparatchiks and politicians that made it SO easy for Pharma to plunder and kill.
this is not quite so simple. Canada claims to be independent from America from a regulatory perspective, approving vaccines apparently independently and yet all our Public Health officials take WHO FDA and CDC statements at face value like gospel. So it's independence when speaking to the populace and it's blind following of the strictest possible pro-vaccine views from the US.
You have a point Carol. Although I would never trust the ChiComs on anything, “our” hands are far from clean.
This all should be investigated until hell freezes over. Every last stone unturned in this man made disaster and laid bare for history along with prosecutions of course.
so do I. Canada is a real tyranny.
Will they just follow the US do you think??? Asking as an American here…or are we doomed here?
Time will tell, the old saying is that Canada gets what Americans with a 3-5 year delay. I hope it is going to be more like 6-12 months. I really hope it'd follow much sooner but I am afraid it's impossible given media and public opinion.
Yeah the media here has been just horrible.
That's the LAST STAND. If we fail, all is lost
I think we'll see a big uptick in those wanting/seeking to emigrate to the US when all this is over.
And say you are pregnant!
Kavanaugh caved over the CMS issue.
what an ass
Never ever ever trust a guy who coaches girls' basketball.
Yes he was
Oh, but having a Repugnocant as President will save you?!
IDIOTS...
Your point?
If SCOTUS wasn't a political joke, it would've been 9-0
Although not for federally-funded healthcare facilities. The horror continues. 😱
Which is all, or nearly all. Medicare and Medicaid is their bread and butter. We need healthcare that divorces itself from the piper. We need cost sharing programs instead of "insurance." I worked for a para government agency for much of my career, supported by CMS and every contract renewal was like putting a proposal together for Pharaoh (more bricks, less straw!).
When will FOX quit putting the IDIOTIC Mark Siegel on?
He talks about how great "the vaccine" is. He seems not to understand the FACT there are 11+ other vaccines. Not all are MRNAs
In the USA, the Novavax vaccine has been submitted and is more traditional yet we hear nothing about that.
No way he will ever deal with vax failures, myocarditis, ADE, negative efficacy. He is an absolute MORON and has caused problems during all this trying to toe the Fauci line.
He is an embarrassment, a hack, a source of massive misinformation and seems to be a paid shill of big pharma.
I agree. He is a vax lunatic. Every time he’s on Fox I literally yell at my tv lol. He’s all in for vax despite deaths etc. All docs are at NYU Langone. I used to listen to Doctor radio BC but can’t stand it anymore due to liberal bias and vax propaganda.
I remember when he talked up the use of hydroxychloraquine as it apparently saved his father during his Covid bout. I was a bit surprised to see him turn to the vaccines as a panacea after that.
Total moron is a perfect description. He has been as long as he's been a contributor. So glad i stopped watching fox on nov 2, 2021
I agree with you here….I get furious when I see his fat face.
So, the take-away from this ruling is that if Congress were to legislate vaccine mandates, they'd be legal. Time to start putting our congressmen under pressure to enact legislation that would prohibit the passage of such legislation.
We need a Constitutional Amendment.
That would be awesome. But, we need to drain the swamp first.
That’s good news except that they still are upholding the mandate for healthcare workers. My significant other is an ER Doctor who has had, and recovered, from Covid and does not wish to be vaccinated.
https://www.themainewire.com/2022/01/athletes-who-had-covid-will-be-considered-fully-vaccinated-ncaa-says-in-new-guidelines/
That headline sounds good but they only “allow” you to be considered vaccinated for 90 days after your infection. Then you still have to get the jabs.
This part is disappointing, though:
“But the conservative-majority court allowed similar requirements to stand for medical facilities that take Medicare or Medicaid payments.” (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/13/supreme-court-ruling-biden-covid-vaccine-mandates.html)
I wonder if there’s any recourse on this front …
Yeah, that's what my company will fall under so I'm still not out of the woods
😢 You can use my “Letter to a Governing Body” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-governing-body) in the fight against the mandate. Several of my readers have already started using it as part of their exemption requests, so hopefully others can as well.
Thank you! Great piece!!
Aww, thanks so much, Johnny-O!
This case merely decided whether OSHA has the authority to force private companies with 100 or more employees to impose vaccination requirements on their employees. Facilities that rely heavily on government funds are often considered state actors; which means that they are to be treated as though they were part of the government. If these facilities are considered state actors, then they are not affected by today's decision.
The only recourse, therefore, is to sue OSHA in some federal district court on the grounds that it does not have the authority to require government agencies. Regardless of the ruling in the district court, the loser will appeal to the appropriate circuit court for a ruling overturning the district court's holding. Finally, if the Supremes deem the issue worthy, they will take up the issue and render a final decision.
If SCOTUS rules that OSHA does not have the authority to impose vaccine mandates on government agencies, then we can celebrate because the mandate issue will have been completely disposed of; unless, of course, a later ruling out of SCOTUS holds otherwise.
What we really need to do is twist the arms of our elected officials in the state and federal legislatures so that they pass legislation that prohibits vaccine mandates wholesale... and then watch the issue go back to the court system for rulings on the constitutionality of said legislation. Government is not our friend.
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The Health care workers aren't so lucky.
oh, the public who depends on effective and quick health care, what the F about them?!
Exactly...the fallout from this could be significant. I know several healthcare personnel who are leaving after this ruling
Yeah baby! WHO said no to booster...now SCOTUS kills OSHA overreach. Serious progress to freeing this country from the tyranny the Biden Admin has imposed on it. (6-3 good, not great, but at least finally Roberts voted the right way)
Although who gives a hoot about the WHO anymore?
Wish that were true but the mutts administering our covid protocols and guidance seem to...
very unfortunate base upon who controls the WHO
Outside the US, a lot of people, frankly. Just the reality.
This is separate from the federal contractor mandate, the one affecting me, but I don't see how any company could continue with that after this ruling.
companies should be sued in case of vaccine side effects, if they still continue to enforce it after this ruling.
They should be sued regardless. They forced people to take a experimental drug that had no long-term effectiveness. Also, it comes down to discrimination- the jabbed are just as likely to infect others as the unjabbed. As far as the jab reducing hospitalization and severity that’s only on those that are high risk, therefore, that’s a personal health issue not public.
so Healthcare workers should quit en masse. fuck them
Exactly! I am too scared to go to the crooked ass hospitals and doctors anyways. Politicians in scrubs.
Not all of us Lorri
True. Thank you for adding that. Gotta search and rule out the sheep. I am afraid the sheep have become majority.
Still wonder what fallout there will be in healthcare. I know of several nurses who have left the places they loved working.
Find Non Medicare/Medicaid places. The government poisons everything.
Hear, hear!
If exemptions aren’t allowed people will get out of the profession. My daughter has already said if they don’t allow her a religious exemption she’s done!
a LOT of people
What are they going to do with all the employees they fired in November because of this Draconian measure?
Unfortunately I think this ruling means that thick-headed employers still have the right to fire the unvaxxed (unless in a state that has barred this by law). The ruling just means that Biden can't use OSHA to compel other employers to do it.
Sue them for discrimination. The jab does nothing long-term, the jabbed can infect and become infected just like the unjabbed. So what is the employers argument for mandatory jabs? It can’t be safety- and no employer can force me to take a drug t without some public safety justification.
So, what about the ones they fired in States like Texas?
If Texas had a law in place at that time banning the practice, I'd say it's time for those employers to lawyer-up.
The mandates remain for healthcare works and federal employees and contractors…
they should look at Peggy Hall/The Healthy American for resources on how to get exemptions. they are getting exemptions even for such workers.
DoD hasn’t approved any exemptions, religious or medical.
We have to remember this during the next elections and never vote for any candidate who doesn’t denounce this
For which I am bitter, since I have two sons in the military, one of whom already had covid and was still forced to take the vaccine. :(
I'm sorry about your sons' situations. Do you know that some doctors who recognize the adverse effects of the COVID vaccines are developing protocols for counteracting the adverse effects and putting these protocols online? It would be best for your sons to be proactive and use a protocol rather than waiting for adverse effects to become obvious.
That is a criminal shame. I hope they protest.
Yes it sounds like this ruling was a mixed bag. Still though, if they hadn't blocked anything, then we have no more liberty any time the FedGov declares an "emergency" which would have been a bleak future in short order.
That stinks.
I do not see how it ends forced vaccinations. What it does, and Roberts and Kavanaugh should be massively ashamed of themselves (those are the public words I can say, I can not write the words I really want to say) is say that the Federal Government can FORCE pretty much ANYTHING on people if the Federal Government has a hand in paying for whatever it is. Experimental vaccines? No problem say Roberts and Kavanaugh, if the Feds pay for part of whatever it is you are doing. In the future, it will be the Health Care mandate that will prove to be VERY dangerous and much mor eimportant in eroding liberties.
If the “Feds” are paying for something this means We the People! are actually paying!
You’re right. If we all eventually fall under federal health care where does that leave us in the future. Can Medicare impose vaccines in order to sign up for it? Geez, we’ve paid for it for everyone else for years. Now it’s our time, we might be fucked.
Frankly, I’m willing to give up Medicare for freedom.
I concur the reasoning in the healthcare case is problematic.
A big problem in the CMS case was no hospitals or systems were fighting it because they are all on the government dole. Kavanaugh seized on that
I have not had time to read it yet. Not sure how that changes anything. Just because the hospitals have been bought by Pfizer doesnt mean you do not do the right thing. And allowing the Federal Government to forcibly inject you with a still experimental vaccine-like substance is NOT the right thing to do, whether the hospitals take federal money or not. And it sets a VERY dangerous precedent. Not as dangerous as the OSHA rule would have (but that would have led to actual civil war), but dangerous nevertheless. More chipping at liberty. Chip chip chip. Kavanaugh is a disgrace.
Totally agree. Sucks that we have to take a “win” that is a split decison
Unfortunately, the court did allow a separate rule to take effect requiring shots for workers in nursing homes, hospitals and other facilities that receive Medicare and Medicaid payments from the federal government.
That is a shame. I hope those people protest.
If you live in the U.S., please protest yourself. Many health care workers will quit or be fired rather than take the clot shots -- after all, many of them have seen the horrific "side effects" of the clot shots up close in their patients. Our health care system has already been badly damaged and losing another huge number of health care workers will cripple it even further. And the doctors, nurses, et al who comply with the mandates and keep working will be the most pharma-bought and pharma-propagandized people.
Exactly
It ashame for your loved ones. My nephew talks about being overworked at long term care facility because they have vaxx mandates. In short, he taking care of far more older folks than 2019. The standard of care has gone down significantly.
they were misinformed about kids in hospitals. sotomajor was quoted as saying 100,000 kids are in hospital with covid. Someone should give her fauci's tape where he admits that almost all of them are for other reasons in hospitals but they test positive for covid. CDC guidelines have it upside down and calculate hospitalization based on tests WITH covid instead of hospitalized BECAUSE of covid. so someone could be in hospital because of a broken leg but because it tests positive for covid is reported as a covid case.
Sadly healthcare workers are still effected by this decision.
I expected the OSHA block because it was a massive overreach and would have invited abuse of all kinds from the agencies. However, why didn't they also block it for healthcare workers? These workers were out there day after day from the beginning of the pandemic to now. They were repeatedly exposed and many have had the virus. Why mandate the vaccines now? It makes no sense.
California is not allowing unvaxxed nurses to work. However, they are FORCING vaxxed nurses with ACTIVE COVID INFECTIONS to pick-up those shifts. It's totally nuts!
That’s a great case for a discrimination lawsuit. Further, the fact jabbed can transmit the disease as well as unjabbed - shows there is no scientific reason for an employer mandating it. The employer stating it’s for workplace safety no longer applies.
It's not about COVID or health care at all. It's about control and power.
Was that a case before them?
It’s still on for Healthcare workers. Get ready for more nightmare staffing situations
More healthcare facilities just need to go completely private. Stop taking any government money and you don't have to mandate the "vaccines."
My hospital's patient census at any one time is 60 percent medicare/medicaid. They would go under.
With Medicare and Medicaid they can't do that.
some serious repercussions I am bracing for with healthcare
They kept the CMS mandate, as Roberts continues his activism an caring more about the fortunes of the court than the nation it serves. And the federal employee/contractor mandate is still out there.
These healthcare workers need to start suing based on discrimination. The jabbed can still infect and become infected, so it’s no longer about public safety - it’s about personal choice.
1 down. At least 3 to go. What about the military? Federal contractors? Doctors and nurses?
Conservatives Thomas, Alito & Gorsuch concurring.
Commies Breyer, Sotomayor & Kagan dissenting.
Blue-Light Federalists Roberts, Kavanagh & Barrett remaining silent.
Healthcare workers mandate was upheld, sadly.
That is sad. When?
And federal workers - that mandate still in effect, unfortunately.
It's not killed but isn't it "stayed" by a Fed court at the moment? My employer at least seems to think so and is holding off on implementation pending outcome of that. One would hope it is on thin ice too at this point
The mandate for federal contractors is stayed but the one for direct employees is still in effect.
tide is turning!
It has been turning in Europe for at least a week -- Macron, Johnson all back peddling. The Great Rest group (Davos) is now having simulation for financial collapse. The COVID scam is almost over (we of course in Canada will be the last given Trudeau owns part of Acuitas Pharma--every jab $) but don't think the Build Back Better crowd won't try their next "crisis "
Their next "crisis"? You mean the fake Marburg Virus pandemic?
Omicron was a sign from above.
Amen. On Inauguration Day, 2021, legal scholar Ron Coleman had a bunch of Leftist crazies posting stuff on his Twitter feed about how "we are in control now". An observant Jew, Mr. Coleman rightly observed "You idiots! GOD is in control!"
Nothing makes his words ring more true than Omicron.
Sadly, by the movement of Roberts, they let stand the healthcare mandate. This is going to go far to erode any quality of health care and is not supported by any more science than the OSHA mandate. Criminal, both, IMO.
I wonder which justices who voted against Biden in the private employer mandate turned around and voted FOR him on the health care workers. This split decision will wind up making things WORSE for quality health care.
So basically every healthcare facility of government run. We are already full blown socialist in that regard. If a healthcare facility can't make their own decisions, then they're not private...as my hospital claims
Kind of like how most airlines are considered govt contractors for carrying freight for the man
Kavanagh and Roberts. Both voted against the private employer mandate and for the health care workers mandate. Go figure. (If I'm not mistaken, I *think* Kavanagh even wrote the opinion about the private employer mandate. Makes my head spin).
Lets go Brandon ! i need another drink.....BOOM BOOM...Biden KMA
excuse me..Kiss My UN vaccinated....A...S
How long will it take the employers to be incentivized by Pfizer to mandate the failed and dangerous injections?
I really think that Pfizer is moving on to therapeutics. Their CEO made that pretty apparent the other day. Look for them to issue a statement blaming Trump for the failed vaccines by rushing them through the process.
Thank the Lord Jesus for the Supreme Court making the right decision by blocking Biden mandate. Now Lord we ask You to cancel the mandate for Healthcare workers Military and all others in this mandate In Jesus Name I Pray Amen
First airline to now let me fly unmasked....has my business.
Yeah but Doctors and Nurses and other healthcare workers got screwed. It's time for the doctors to stop being so timid and accepting. I know a lot of them who are unvaxxed and silent.
I have a family member who is a very dedicated ICU nurse. She busted her tail working 100 hour weeks during the worst of COVID. She is now on the sidelines because she does not trust the vax. She is studying for her real estate license. A real loss to all of the patients out there.
Silence is complicity. It is time to speak up, no…it is time to ROAR.
This decision highlights that if you were to program a computer with every single point in the Constitution, fed this case into it, there wouldn't be these 6-3 decisions based on feelings. There is no ambiguity in the Constitution, as much as the left wants you to believe that to be true. This decision should have been 9-0, and while any victory is sweet, activist justices are destroying this country.
We can never let fear do this again. This honestly felt like a battle for humanities future.
I don't think it is over either.
Honestly Biden should step down right now.
But the damage that has already been done... :(
HU-FREAKING-ZZAH, WOOHOO, AND YIPPEEE!! 🎉🍾🎊🥂
I just saw this and was about to ask in the comments of your last post if you were on it, Alex, but of course you are :-)
So relieved. So happy for all those living in fear anxiety. And this is a win too for those already vaxxed, as it was inevitable that mandates would come for boosters.
Thank you President Trump!
booster boy trump
Liberty hangs on by a thread 6-3
For what? Not kicking that piss ant evil Fauci to the curb or Operation Warp Speed? 3 level chess is tough I know..
LOL
Yet another surreal moment and day on Terra Firma. I have been out of work since Aug 1 2020. Yeah, that's a long time. Ran out of severance pay. Ran out of unemployment. The state even tried to claw back money but I fought and won. FINALLY, after tons of applications etc a very large bank offered me a job. I chose the vax exemption. Just this afternoon after the great news I get a call from said mega large bank. Hey we were checking to see why you chose religious? I gave them my answer and mentioned the SCTOUS ruling and she goes I don't see how that is related? Umm. it has EVERYTHING to do with that. Now...even this job is in limbo. But I'm at peace because I NEVER not ONCE compromised my convictions.
I’d avoid any non-religious talk when discussing exemptions. A business unfortunately has a legal right to require vax regardless of this decision on OSHA. Your Exemption can be rejected if they think it is a political objection rather than religious.
if they "think" vs prove is quite a canyon apart.
Yeah. But what judge are you going to get?
it will work out.
My bet is that more and more healthcare professionals will stop taking Medicare and Medicaid. Good for them. Start our own network to work within.
Let's hope this is the way forward!
I'll believe it is over when my employer rescinds their policy. At this time, this is still very much ongoing.
That's my issue too, I have until tomorrow to get the jab or lose my job. I don't know if they can still force us to get it now.
My company said that they are doing this because it is the right thing to do and that they were doing it regardless of government rule. Will be interested to see if they stick with that message. I have 56 more days. Best of luck. Or can I guess where you are and ask where tomorrow puts you on 14 days unpaid leave? Prayers for all of us in this situation! We should not be forced to take an unproven and experimental shot in order to keep our jobs.
Yeah unpaid after tomorrow…because federal workers might be on the premises. So no relief for me, I fear.
They allowed the mandates on healthcare workers.
Roberts and Kavanaugh join the CNN viewing liberals. It's a travesty.
Unvaxxed health care workers are going to be even more pissed off due to this ruling, in which they were thrown under the bus. Interesting to see what they'll do next.
Praise God! (And let’s remember all lives lost and injured due to this threat and assault by Joe Biden’s administration.
had hoped for the CMS mandate, as that'll affect me just as much. (100+ employees in ortho practice )
I’m so sorry. An unvaccinated nurse took care of my spouse who had severe covid and did a GREAT job. Breaks my heart to think this person could be fired. Awful.
Our only hope is to grab the White House, the House and the Senate and repeal this travesty
Woo hoo America! My husband's job is on the line either way but he decided he doesn't want to work for these people anyway because it is unethical. He applied for five remote jobs and got all five interviews.
This is what needs to happen! Our family is in the same situation - good luck!
As many people as possible need to tell the employers who are mandating this garbage where they can stick their shots.