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Imagine if these type of increases in death occurred in those taking ivermectin. You'd never hear the end of it. Yet, crickets for this.

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Wow, what courage, you mentioned ivermectin at Alex Berenson’s site, it’s a good thing he doesn’t ban you from the thread, at least for now…

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I lost all respect for Alex because of his take on Ivermectin. He doesn't apply the same critical thinking to Ivermectin that he does to the vax. It's just so obvious. I think his ego won't let him admit he can be wrong once in a while.

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Sep 9, 2022·edited Sep 9, 2022

I don't really get it. He obviously believes Ivermectin doesn't work. I think it does very well, when taken early, from the studies I've read but he only trusts certain types of double-blind studies etc. Either way he's just being honest about his opinion, censoring nobody, not using personal attacks against anyone promoting it and trying to avoid "tribalism" and "group-think". I don't lose respect for people just because they disagree with me as long as they're being honest about their convictions and willing to listen and argue. Keep arguing about it and maybe he'll come around but losing all respect for people just for disagreeing?

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I don't think you need the qualifier, 'when taken early'. People that have >= 4 co-morbidities and have become significantly ill from the flu and/or a severe cold, would not be helped by any existing medication. So why do we allow that comment to perpetuate. Why is ivermectin held to an 'early' use standard that Remdesivir and their newest med are not, when they would fail under the same conditions.

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Fair enough and I don't disagree with you at all on any point especially on the Remdesivir vs Ivermectin. I was pointing out that the one thing I like about Alex Berenson (other than our agreement on the covid vaccines) is that he seems to only be focused on telling the truth as he sees it based on the evidence he has and the standards he considers necessary to be impartial, even if you and I may disagree with him on those standards or apparent double standards. He doesn't seem to be willing to be dishonest to push an agenda, even if it would benefit him if he did. I doubt I'd agree with the guy on much beyond covid vaccines, but my point is the thing I actually respect him for is that he seems to be genuinely honest and attempting his best to be fair and open to discussion. The comment I was responding to was attacking him for that, whereas that is what I actually respect about the guy. That's why I read his substack daily and respect him even if I don't seem to agree with him on a damn thing beyond one issue.

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agreed!

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remdesivir fails because it kills 50% of the people who receive 5 or more doses.

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It's the way they work. The body has a tipping point when there's no stopping the virus... and if you get a certain combo of drugs early enough that work in concert with each other (one drug allows the zinc into the cell, another compound inhibits viral replication, etc), you can prevent the cytokine storm.

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It's essentially how all of these types of drugs work, to add in the qualifier appears to undermine the use of the drugs in combination. If you get an antibiotic after a sickness has pushed you over the edge, you could die too. It doesn't mean the antibiotic isn't effective.

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Not only all that you have said, but Ivermectin has been shown to be really safe ... so safe one can buy the drug over the counter for veterinary use. Drug companies don't lower their standards of production for nonhuman animals. I took the human form of Ivermectin before it was banned in my state (which is totally ridiculous) when I came down with Delta variant in August, 2021. I was sleepy for 10 days with fever a couple of nights.

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My wife and I, age 70 w/co-morbidities, got the D variant and took Horse Health from the feed store. Both of us were up, healthy, and ready to go after three days. She over dosed and went to sleep, I took 1/2 a tube and slept one day/night, killed my inflamation under the breastbone too. She is obese but goes to the gym, I'm a gym rat and we both eat healthy, no sugar/starch. Bill, AZ

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The answer to your last question is that people are by nature opinionated, and opinions are not always logical.

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Opinions are like buttholes. Everybody has one and they all stink.

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Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and most of them stink

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We'll said. However, when confronted with a practicing doctor who used IVM and knows it's method of function and efficacy, Alex had nothing to say. No push back, no data, and, of course, no clinical experience as Kory. Sorry, Alex, used properly in combination with other drugs and vitamins, the stuff works, and dozens of studies and thousands of doctors can and do verify this.

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Lactoferrin is even better

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He's a fucking liar about ivermectin. Wake up.

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Sep 9, 2022·edited Sep 9, 2022

What reason would he have to "lie"? Which I consider to be KNOWINGLY spreading false information? His entire anti-covid-vaccine fan base which comprise many of the people who subscribe to his substack and pay him are angry about that stance. I'm guessing he's probably lost subs over it. Is he wrong? I think he is most likely very wrong on that one. But do I think he's lying? No.

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BTW: Do you think, for one second, our pal Alex would shut the fuck up about Ivermectin as he has if he actually thought he was correct in his stance?

No way, no how. Not Alex. Yet there's crickets when it comes to Ivermectin from him.

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He absolutely, positively, 'knowingly spread false information'.

Little man is a fucking liar.

I don't need to relitigate this one, I've been here through his entire bullshit stance on Ivermectin, and what he did with a headline of a study that proved the headline false.

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When I came down with Covid back in March, I had already stockpiled the horse paste Ivermectin (the only form I could acquire), Zinc, Vitamin B, C, Melantonin, N-Acytl-Cysteine.

I was exposed by someone who was vaccinated and boosted that came on the jobsite. I had a 20 minute conversation with them 10 feet apart and they informed me near the end of the conversation that hey had Covid all week. He was wearing his mask around his chin. Honestly, I didn't care, I knew it was a matter of time before I'd catch it, hence, the stockpile.

Two days later (Saturday early morning), I woke-up with body aches and fatigue. I went back to sleep for six hours and woke feeling worse. I started dosing everything right away and went back to sleep with no problem. I slept all day Saturday. Saturday night, I ate some bacon, dates, coconut, almond butter and maple syrup and took another dose of everything. I should of ate something on my first dose but didn't think about it.

Sunday, mid-morning, I woke and body aches and fatigue were gone but I had a slight dry raw throat. Dosed everything again with food. By the late afternoon, my throat was fine but I developed slight sniffles. I took another dose. Monday morning I woke, still had sniffles and dosed again. Tuesday morning sniffles were gone.

The earliest I could get a drive-through Covid test was Wednesday afternoon. I had no symptoms when I went to get tested and felt rested.

My results came back, positive for Covid, mid-day Friday. I live alone and had to isolate for at least seven more days before I could return to work. I also had to get a negative result test.

I know having a stockpile of everything I needed and taking it immediately after first symptoms appeared was the key to me not suffering and getting over Covid in record time. My intuition told me to do it and I trust it. I did my research and listened to all the negative things that were said about the horse paste, what works, what doesn't work, etc.

I did me and I'm thankful that information was out there for me to research despite efforts by others that try to suppress information. It worked the way it should work. Give me all the information and let me decide how I want to handle it. I should of been able to buy Ivermectin OTC.

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My experience was like David Williams experience. I used the FLCCC alliance protocol including black seed oil for months knowing that it was a matter of time before I had covid. There was no way I was going to take the vaccine since one of my friends died 8 days after her second Moderna vaccination. [though she died at home, the coronor refused to do an autopsy saying she had a medical history of heart disease, so this never made the VAERS data]. I had bought horse dewormer [ ivermectin] at a supply store and began taking it as soon as I had the positive test results. 1 ivermectin tube over 5 days. I actually had Delta in October 2021. By day 8 I was out raking my leaves because was feeling pretty well. I have been close to others with active covid and no covid symptoms or tests since.

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Absolutely....and thank you for telling us the 'how and why' of your Covid battle. Congrats and God Speed...

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Funny thing, how does a PCR test, confirm covid, when he genbanc samples used to set up the test parameters on ANY PCR test, wasn't covid 19?

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Sep 13, 2022·edited Sep 13, 2022

In my family, we all handled or covid issues in individual ways. i got some ivm shipped from india in 2020. i've been taking all the right vitamins and supplements for a long time. My wife and daughter didn't follow my advice. i managed to avoid getting sick until my 16 yo 2 shot pfizer daughter came down with omicron in december 2021. She only took tylenol. she was only symptomatic for two days. my 2 shot pfizer 52 yo wife came down with it 3 days later. she took paxlovid and was sick for about 5 days. i was a 60 yo 1 shot j&j. i got sick 2 days after my wife. i took 3 mg ivm when my daughter came down with it and upped my dose to 6 mg per day ivm when i became symptomatic. i had sniffles and a fever for 36 hours and unlike my wife, i never developed a cough. i tested positive for about a week but felt fine by my third day. ivm isn't a miracle but it helped me a lot. i have no doubt it would have prevented at least 50% of the hospitalizations in the us, if it had been encouraged from the beginning.

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We all have our shortcomings. There are plenty of very credible people sharing the good news about ivermectin. Alex has been a brave warrior on other fronts.

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Didn't he also take a weird run at Robert Malone?

And is he really against weed?

Like his spunk but bit of a pinhead. Democrats are so insular/unaware

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Here is my personal experience with ivermectin. This is coming from a "true believer" whose views were tempered by real world experience.

In early July, my girlfriend's four year old son was exposed to COVID at a birthday party. He got sick a few days later. At four years old, his age stratified risk was zero so not much of a concern, but after several days when he was puking his guts out and getting sicker by the day, I took them ivermectin.

For her son, ivermectin was a magic bullet. He was back to his usual self and bouncing off the walls within 8 hours.

But the next day, she got sick. And I had been exposed and got sick within a day. Brutal headaches after 24 hours, then body aches, pain in my eyes, and the worst cough I've ever had (and I'm a smoker, so that's saying a lot) after 48 hours. We both took ivermectin too.

For her, it wasn't a magic bullet. It relieved her symptoms in a few hours, but it took her about a week to really get better. For me, it also relieved my symptoms in about 8 hours, but only to about 70%. It took 3 weeks before I finally was back to 100% and tested negative.

So the bottom line is this: ivermectin definitely helps. But it isn't a magic bullet. Religious zeal for or against helps no one. So cut Berenson a little slack. He doesn't believe in ivermectin. Given what I experienced, that it is not a magic bullet, he has something of a point. But his near religious zeal against ivermectin is counterproductive. By the same token though, religious zeal for ivermectin to the point of canceling him, when he has done so much good work in this domain, is likewise counterproductive.

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Appreciate your personal experience and, of course nothing works for everybody but, imagine if back in later 2020 people were given ivermectin en mass to treat early-onset Covid and it prevented at least 70% or more of ICU stays.? But, that doesn’t fit the leftist narrative of killing people so, it’s all perspective…But for the left, it’s about genocide by Thanos doctrine, and that’s why I write here frequently, Joe Thanos Biden, he truly is the poster child of the left’s relentless hate and lust for power…

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But I'm sure you're perfect. Jxckxss.

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Yep.

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Who has Alex ever banned you self righteous dusche . No one that's correct.

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Stop infighting! We need to be united in our cause against tyranny.

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Yes!!!

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It was a joke, douche.

Check spell correct next time.

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Even if it was a joke it was malicious and you're not only a self righteous dusche, it seems that you're a pedant as well.

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Wow, the elites love to see division ... you two are giving them exactly what they want. I bet you two agree on about 95% of things or more!

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I’d go down to 90%, he should know how to spell douche!…

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Exactly.

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Bull. Ivermectin is now in the NIH guidelines and Alex has yet to admit it works. He made false claims about it and false claims about Dr. Robert Malone in a live television discussion. He owes us all an apology. Ivermectin is highly effective if you take the proper doses. They’ve tried to make it ineffective by giving small doses and concluding incorrectly that it doesn’t work. It has worked extremely well which is why they had to cover it up.

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What is the proper dose of Ivermectin? Does anyone know?

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Maybe you should use hydroxychloriquine (spellchecker?) so as not to incite a riot and get locked down. Unless of course you lean left then you be alright 😉

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Malicious? This is what a govt tool would write

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Lighten up. please!

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Very ironic that an Alex fanboi is calling someone a self righteous douche...that’s the best description of Berenson possible without also including faggot.

Also, learn to spell douche right for fucks sake.

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IN case you didn't see it above; The English epithet douche-bag comes from the German duschebag, pronounced du-se-SHUH bahg. There's much more invective in the original so I choose to use it. There you learned something today, hopefully you also learned not to be such a smug du-su-SHUH.

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duschebag is not German. Dusche means shower but there is no "bag" in German and no "duschebag".

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Freudian slip on Barts part, I don’t think he showers.

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It most certainly is German, slang but German non the less. I heard while in visiting there in the late 70, and again in the 80s and 90s. I haven't been back since but it was decades before I heard that term here in the early 2000s. Again I prefer the German pronunciation as it is so much more expressive. That aside, do you flo seriously think you know every word in any given language, all 1 million at a minimum?

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Again the irony, obviously lost on you. I bet you’re a blast at a party. Watch out for the monkey pox bro.

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Right on!!

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By the way, my apologies to Mr. Berenson, I forgot to thank you for being allowed to comment here, and per the content of this thread, I’m sure many would be shouting, “ban this jerk first!“.

Anyway, I know what I believe is going to have more impacts for the better if people were to take a persistent effective stand against evil.

Good luck to you Alex, good luck to all here who still believe and embrace in freedom autonomy independence and choice…

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The case for ivermectin has been proven; there is a benefit from taking Ivermectin in preventing and combatting COVID related illnesses. If you didn't believe after Uttar Pradesh or Japan, now a more structured study from Itajai, Brazil substantiates its effectiveness in 70% of their population. Naysayers try to negate the results from Uttar Pradesh (India is corrupt), Japan (unstructured and not approved in Japan) and now Itajai (random follow through on taking the medication) but the numbers support Ivermectin, a l'il $2 pill rather than other treatments costing hundreds or thousands of dollars and padding Big Pharma's influence.

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All I know is I took it early on and BAM back in action.

Same with many of my friends

I know doesn’t mean nothing but I don’t care

I always wonder if he would take it and not ever say a peep…..

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Ivermectin frenzy was a bust! Never panned out as a treatment.

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Wife and I both unvaxxed, almost 70 year old, been using Ivermectin once a week. Neither of us so much as a sniffle. Son, daughter-in-law, three grandkids, all vaxxed, all sick, currently doing a slow recovery from Covid. Second time for daughter-in-law.

Proof? No. Evidence? Yes.

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Worked for me also. My wife was vaxxed and I'm not. Both go covid (admittedly not the worst strain) and she was miserable for three weeks and I was over it in four days by taking Ivermectin as soon as I was positive but not symptomatic. We got it at exactly the same time returning from vacation. Stuff works! I was in the yard working four days later. There are over 60 studies out there that show it works and many doctors used it with great success. Also it'a Protease inhibitors. Know what is also touted as a protease inhibitor... Plaxovid. Pfizer tried to create an expensive Ivermectin and it doesn't work as well. It's all so obvious. Follow the money.

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Napman has it right. Of all the existing protease inhibitors studied Ivermectin was the best. This was before Plaxovid was developed so it was not in the study.

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Anecdotal. Not scientific proof. Science does not confirm this at all. Glad you are well but it’s not because of Ivermectin.

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Try again...you have a lot of reading to do. Bureaucratic government agencies do not have a monopoly on studies. Free market works.

https://c19ivermectin.com/

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Notice Lezlie, who is a troll, didn't address your post at all. Perhaps its Alex Berenson writing under a pseudonym, because he too can't seem to accept that multiple randomized, placebo controlled trials have been conducted with statistically relevant, scientific conclusions showing positive results. A recent scientific study showed that Paxlovid, which Alex does proselytize, doesn't work, but you won't find that study linked on AB's substack.

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How do you know it's not because of Ivermectin? You don't. They might not have scientific data that's conclusive that IVM works but you don't have scientific data that's conclusive that IVM doesn't work. Of course Pfizer and Moderna want very much for you to believe what you believe, and so does CNN and MSNBC. Anthony Fauci and the CDC would agree with you too, so keep that in mind.

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Response to therapy is a valid proof

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Nolan already admitted such

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Don't be so sure, apparently the CDC website now lists Ivermectin as a Covid-19 treatment, along with Vitamin D. Always remember; “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength” It's becoming more Orwellian every day.

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Ivermectin has been on the CDC website since at least a year ago. When you click on the link, it says that they only recommend it for clinical trials. And, of course, there are no clinical trials of ivermectin in the US.

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No, but there have been in other countries and they have overwhelmingly found it to be beneficial. As in, they started testing it and not as many people were dying so they rolled it out en masse before the testing was even complete because it was clear the "vaccines" were failures and who could have predicted that? There has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine in spite of repeated attempts at it.

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I didn't say ivermectin was ineffective against Covid (I have a stockpile).

I'm aware that other countries have used it with success.

I said the CDC website has contained that link for at least a year. If you click on the link and read, you'll find this statement:

Recommendation

The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials (AIIa).

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Gotta click on it and read.

Recommendation

The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials (AIIa).

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I still want to see the human clinical trials for all these shots that were rolled out. I ain't no dr, but c'mon man, common sense

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Send that link. I would like to see its

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But Ivermectin is cheap and off patent, so we're not going to look at that data. Please focus on the data provided by Pfizer, Moderna, the CDC, Anthony Fauci.

The Ivermectin story is snuffed out on CNN, MSNBC, FB, Twitter, and Google and most other mainstream and social media outlets. So please don't come here with your non-profitable drug data because it ruins the narrative. Joe Biden said this was a pandemic of the "unvaccinated" so please get with the program here. Make sure you get your "free" booster every 4 months and wear your mask to save lives. If you're feeling sick (or not feeling sick), make sure to take the "free" PCR test that gives up to 98% false positives. Remember, we're all in this together, 2 weeks to flatten the curve, and the vaccine is safe and effective for all. Don't forget to stand 6 feet apart!!!

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Pureblood here ... family had the Wuhan Flu, even 85 yr. old mother with emphysema. ORDERED HCQ and IVMC ... after consult with FLCC! 5 days later we were back at it. Natural immunity now. Vaxxed friends are getting sick every 3-4 months. Everyone we suggested IVMC to ... 1 week there done with the Wuhan Flu. FDA just sneaked IVMC in as a treatment on their website. its been given to refugees in this country for 60 years.

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Pureblood family plus parents. Smashed 32mg per adult per day. COVID is a 24 hr disease with ivm, zinc, quercetin and d3 (taken daily). Ivm works.

Zero mild or bad effects. No loss of taste, smell or nausea.

Enjoy life

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Yeah, that's why the NIH now lists it as a treatment: https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/

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Click on through to the page for ivermectin and it basically says "don't use it." Only in clinical trials, and unfortunately there aren't any trials in this country. The fact that it's on the page doesn't mean they recommend it.

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Yep. But it’s deceiving they way the site has it.

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Unlike all the other "vax" serums that were rolled out in a couple of months are. Someone pointed out track records earlier, but please trust the scientists by all means. Hydrox is pretty safe but we can't get it anymore. Nothing to see here, move along...

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Sep 9, 2022·edited Sep 9, 2022

Rumors of Ivermectin's demise have been greatly exaggerated. Look into the exchange between Tess Lawrie and Andrew Hill (regarding WHO-funded Hill's decision to change the conclusion of his meta analysis on Ivermectin, as documented in RFK Jr's book) to get a sense for the underlying political forces.

What's weird is that Ivermection is talked about so much more than quercetin (which is found in onions and other foods) and nigella sativa, which is a seed commonly used to flavor dishes/breads in the middle east and India (and is also used as a folk remedy against various viral illnesses in the middle east). This despite scientific studies showing that both are roughly as likely as IVM to be effective against covid. https://c19early.com/ I think it's because IVM has been so successfully discredited in the eyes of the lemmings.

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Thanks for that link at the bottom of your comment. I was curious about the item at the very top iota-carrageenan as I know that is a form of sea weed. I had a look and discovered there is a nose wash available in Australia at very low cost called Flo Travel Nasal spray made from this substance (manufactured in Austria by MoNo chem -pharm Produckte GmbH. Sold in Australia through ENT Technologies Pty Ltd. I irrigate my nose whenever I have been out where people might have infected me, which is not often. I also occasionally irrigate my nasal passages with a dilution of povidone-iodine which is also fairly high up on the list. Its more of a hassle. So far so good.

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Glad you found it helpful. Please spread the word on that site - it's incredible (and is hidden by all major search engines, as unbelievable as that is)! I just wanted to mention that I remember hearing that povidone-iodine rinse can have some kind of semi-serious side effect in some people (or maybe it was one of the mouthwashes recommended by FLCCC). I can't remember what it is, but you might want to look into it if you haven't already.

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Thanks again. Povidine iodine I believe can be irritating if used a lot but it is recommended by Dr Jonathan Wright who is a doctor I respect a great deal so I feel I can used it freely. Don't feel that confidence with the mouthwashes though, but if nothing else is available I would try them for a limited period.

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What I like about Alex Berenson is that he appreciates dialogue and I don't think he's banned someone from making a statement he disagrees with. I could say Ivermectin is cures cancer and I could say that the mRNA vaccines saved lives with no negative side effects and Berenson would allow that to stand. I could say that cannabis is healthy for you and less detrimental than alcohol and Alex would let that slide as well. The whole point of substack and the internet in general is to allow healthy debate and the exchange of ideas. I may not agree with everyone and I have disagreed with Alex but in the end we're all better off disputing statements and ideas and coming closer to the truth. Unfortunately in the world of Google, FB, Twitter, the mainstream media, and academia, that's not been the case; particularly in the covid world over the last 2 years. The minute Alex starts banning people for their statements is the moment I turn off his substack.

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The NIH has authorized ivermectin as treatment for covid.

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Can you show us where we can confirm that info?

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You're confusing it with your finger.

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Alex has two flaws 1. Blind on Trump and 2. Blind on ivermectin

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Several years back I was trying to give a horse a dose of dewormer and things went badly. I ended up swallowing a fingernail sized dollop of the paste. Tasted like shat, no wonder the horse didn't want it. But the wife insisted I go to the ER and when I refused to at least call poison control. I called, told them what happened and they pulled it up on their computers. You know what it said? May cause passage of worms in stool. The PC lady laughed, I laughed, wife was pestering to know what they said, I told the wife they said I was gonna die. She didn't find it funny but the lady on the phone thought it was hysterical.

My guess is most liberals need a dose because something definitely crawled up their asses.

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I know people whose digestive tracts settled down after using ivm for covid. Eldest son, myself and some others. Unexpected benefit. Oh, and I don't know of anyone who used it for covid who died. Everyone in my extended family has had covid now, all used ivm, all recovered fast. It sure didn't hurt anyone.

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That's my take away. If works well for a lot for people and so far hasn't killed anyone nor maimed with adverse reactions.. win win compared to to faux shots.

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I had the rx pills (which worked fantastically for me w FLCC protocol, I felt about 80% better in 18-24 hours, mine was Aug 2021) and also bought the horse version. I tried it for kicks and that was not apple flavor!

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Kicks, no pun intended? Quit horsing around, this is serious stuff! 🙄😄. Like someone else posted, lighten up yall.

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I actually tried the horse paste before I had Covid. I wanted to see if I tolerated it. It had three ingredients. When we all caught Covid, my kids took it. I asked if they minded the taste, and they said neigh. They did recover quickly and galloped back to school. I guess you could say we were grazed by the delta variant. Since then we’ve not been saddled with fear of Covid. But hay, if you can’t pony up $100 for rx ivermectin or have a friend in mx or TN send it to you, the horse paste works. Just don’t tell your physician you’re unbridled from human medicine.

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But the PASTE can be purchased with apple flavoring!!! I do not recommend the paste however!

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(My horses weren't fooled either). I was able to score a 500 ml. bottle of 1% sterile solution from a farm supply store in Minnesota (online-I live in NC). It was the only place I could find it! The farm supply locales in our area had sold out quickly.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

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Reminds me of the Mars invasion movie with Jack Nickerson as president. I can just picture Joe Biden in his place.

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Uh oh, you misspelled that. Someone is gonna have a cow🐄. Or maybe even a horse🐎

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No. The damned software spelled it wrong after I spelled it correctly. I just didn’t check behind it!!

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I will be quoting you for days!! Thanks

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I can't stop laughing. Thanks for the story.

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Like!

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Thanks for the laugh JD. I would have started whinneying and counting by stamping your foot. Does the wife have a sense of humor? So we really can't OD on it? Good to know.

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Reading this has already made my morning better. Still laughing.

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Gene is still a clown.

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Genie is a dickless wonder.

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He has a 'gina?

Figures.

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🤣🤣🤣

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This is why Substack, more than any other feature, needs a silence button in its chat. It is not hard to do -- many stacks do it. Write them a note and request it -- I write one daily.

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You can click the … below the comment and report it. You won’t see the comment thereafter.

It’s sad to see trolls in such generally good company with good discussions. Name calling and foul language with ad hominem attacks are the reason many of us don’t use “mainstream” media. It’s fine to disagree, but we all must do so in a civil way and back up any disagreements with facts, links, and logic.

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Thanks...that is helpful. The beauty of a silence function is that that poster will not show in any of your threads ever again. So more universally satisfying...

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Some things never change.

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Gene will always be a clown.

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A moronic clown.

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Gene, my man. Slow down a bit and think about what you are saying. The article is talking about vaccine-related adverse events - or the implication that the vaccines are the cause of the AE's anyway. IVM would have been used to treat the initial symptoms of the infection. Further, IVM is INCREDIBLY safe. Since its introduction something like 3 decades ago, there have been something like 4 billion doses given to humans with only some 300 deaths being associated with it's consumption. So any "spike" you saw, was more likely just coincidental.

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No, actually, Ivermectin is TOTALLY BANNED in Australia as is Hydroxychloroquine, all based on the bogus studies set up to fail by those set to profit from the jabs. The past 50-70 yrs of safety data and studies, the fact that both drugs are listed on the WHO list of 100 essential medications list BECAUSE they are considered so safe for most and many many studies to prove it have been completely ignored BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT CONVENIENT! If there are cheap safe and effective EARLY treatments, there is no state of emergency, no EUA for trial jabs to be used on humans such limited safety studies, no trillions of $$$$ profit for the psychopaths in control!

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Bingo!

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For some reason I can comment but cant give a heart. Any Answers and a remedy?

Bob your comment deserves a like!

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Actually, I don't think the TGA in Australia cited any studies in banning ivermectin and hydroxychloriquine, just some vague nonsensical concerns and in the case of hcq a bogus shortage (2 years ago, somehow unresolved). Since the public is so dumbed down and bamboozled by the media, it doesn't really matter.

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True, it's almost impossible to get vitamin I here except at a pet shop. HOWEVER, mebendazole is available OTC (Combantrin, Vermox etc.) and you can import kilos of fenbendazole without any problem whatever. So there are plenty of good options.

Can't remember who told me that. Sure it's right.

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Dickless wonder, why he and the Scarecrow from Oz are alike, they have no brains..,

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Gene gets schooled!

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Seriously? Do you just come on here to disseminate disinformation for the pharma-medical industrial complex? I'm sure you didn't actually read the article that you posting to or if you did you don't have the comprehension to understand it.

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People who get vaxxed get a spike factory installed in the body, what planet are you on?

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I think he means the spike in covid deaths last summer, not the spike protein.

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Everyone should ignore Gene…you won’t change his mind and he’s getting attention, which is why he’s even here.

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Spike Proteins are caused by the jab. Its destroying Immunity. Fact! God help those that got the bad stuff ... 01, 02 or 03 serial numbers on vials. Slovania Health Minister blew the whistle. 03 = up shits creek ... 02 = at least you have a paddle. 01 = placebo/saline. Guess which one Fauci & Gates got?

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Uh, the virus only busted loose in Australia after almost everyone got vaxxed. Therefore, the only options are:

(i) the vax doesn't work, or

(ii) it makes things worse.

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I vote for both!

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But Fauci killing and maiming with remdesivir and the mRNA shots, he gets a pass?

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founding

You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that.

Let me ask you Gene;

Do you think more people will die FROM covid, over the next 10 years, or as a result of the lockdowns?

If you don't know the answer to that, well, you will in five years.

Would you have blood on your hands then?

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Your words have blood. Find attention somewhere else; it's so desperate it completely devaluates you.

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None of my unvaxxed friends and family died of covid. But I know several vaxxed friends and family who died shortly after getting vaxxed.

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First time feelin ya Gene. You know how to incite a crowd. I believe you don't believe that and take it at as a joke but these other folks know you better. I got more important things to do than whine at you, like cut cream cheese for my bagel with ivermectin paste. Apple flavored of course. Tis fall after all, y'all. Happy 🍂 autumn! 107 shopping days til Christmas!

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Sometimes trolls are fun.

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Oh lord, Gene, stop!

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There were also many prescriptions blocked and many hospitals that would refuse to allow family members to administer it. Those were the people who died. Anyway how do you explain Australians are dropping like flies? They’re all jabbed and boosted and not taking ivermectin. What’s killing them?

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No sense of humor may be a contributing factor

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Well, not in Australia as Ivermectin was banned by the AMA, AHPRA and all the usual suspects...

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Correlation vs. Causation? At least we don't make the "it would have been worse" argument that the injection zealots love to make.

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Google Dr Chetty from South Africa. He has treated over 4000 patients with Ivermectin and NOT ONE died from Covid.

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Stuck on stupid

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what a bunch of crap!

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Can you provide your source for what you claim? Because I haven't been able to verify it.

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That's a crock of shit, Gene. Repeating it doesn't make what you say true.

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Hey Gene, here's a little lesson in statistics and proportion. If Ivermectin scripts up to August 2021 were 5 a month, and in August they reached 10, that is twice the month before and double the average. That peak sounds impressive, doesn't it? But even if 100% effective, does it really impact 50,000 Covid cases during the peak month? It works the same way with your diapers. Those months that you have intestinal issues result in peaks, but did your diaper usage really make an impact on anything? Get it?!

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Give it up Gene.

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Stop it Gene ... you sound foolish

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You ought to know about clown cars, but, one has to be somewhat educated to operate a vehicle and that excludes you!

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Imagine if they gave people the IVM or HCQ protocols from the get-go, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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100%, it would have just fizzed out, I have a feeling there will be another variant soon enough, and a lot of the vaccinated with compromised immunity will be in trouble.

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Plenty of evidence that that is true in RFK Jr's book the Real Anthony Fauci. Over 2000 footnoted references documenting his, Fauci's malfeasance since the early 1980s.

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And I bet 90% of world 'leaders', including US congresscritters, took IVM and/or HCQ.

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A doctor did come out and say he'd treated many congressmen with these drugs. I think it was Dr Zelenko.

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I think so too.

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Hey Miki,

I just thought of something. Had they implemented Dr. Kory's (and many others') protocols our little pal Alex would have nothing to write about.

Figures.

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Ha! I thought that, too :)

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Yeah, no wonder he was "anti-science" with the rest of the charlatans when it comes to Ivermectin.

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Miki,

Had they done that, Covid would have been a whole lot of nothing.

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And Fauci wouldn’t be a serial killer.

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He already was a serial killer with the AIDs epidemic.

History repeated itself.

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So true

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Alex and Ivermectin:

Dude is one of the biggest hypocrites on Substack.

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I too am pixxed he didn't address and even bitch-smacked Malone on Cable. I have been a subscriber to Mercola.com for at least 15 years. When you see your organic, holistic, selling overpriced stuff but could reap the wisdom, and the commenters are very knowledgeable, but suddenly they are politically outspoken, when politics never was mentioned before, something is going on, not right.

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I was a Mercola subscriber years ago, then stopped due too many sales emails, but about a year ago resubscribed because there are indeed many informative articles to be found and knowledgeable people commenting, like you said. But may I ask what you mean by "but suddenly they are politically outspoken, when politics never was mentioned before, something is going on, not right."? Just curious.

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In early 2020 a bunch of new commenters started to post political comments on Mercola. I thought it was weird bc this was anything but a political forum. However, time would reveal it was a political situation, as Dr. Mercola became censored.

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I expect the data to be scrubbed shortly before being released in the future

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Ivermectin did yer say?

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/09/ivermectin-reduces-deaths-by-92-for-10-cents-a-week/

"A new study of 8,300 people shows that taking ivermectin regularly before catching Covid halved the odds of catching it, and reduced mortality by a seismic 92%*. It reduced hospitalization by 98%, and in a dose dependent manner. If unvaccinated people were threatening our hospital system, it was only ever because they were denied ivermectin, something that appears to have increased their odds of dying by 12.5 fold. And as we all know now, the Emergency Use Authorization for the new, barely tested, radically different vaccines depended on there being no safe cheap alternative, which clearly there was. This study took place from July 2020 — Dec 2020. So here we are two years after it started. So many people died who didn’t need to."

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I should also note that back home I have a screen shot of an official document from I think 2005, in which Dr. Faustus states clearly that Chloroquinine is a safe and effective prophylactic against SARS.

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And Berenson is as quiet as a dead cricket over the mounting evidence (equally valid correlation data as this) that Ivermectin saved millions of lives everywhere it was used extensively - poor countries mostly.

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Uttar Pradesh, India, is a fabulous case in point.

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Ivermectin has been taken by billions around the world long before Covid. So you think it “magically” kills people?

Why don’t you ask that question about the mRNA vaccines?

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Assuming everything else is equal - meaning you have an equal distribution of vaxxed to unvaxxed in both the IVM and non-IVM groups, it would be logical to conclude that there would be no change in the AE's since the reference in this case is the mRNA and not the actual virus.

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It's been proven in multiple studies Ivermectin works. That's why Africa didn't have a serious outbreak in the countries where they take it regularly for Malaria I believe.

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I believe it's Hydroxychloroquine you're thinking about.

HCQ is the commonly used anti-malarial which also works against Covid.

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you are correct, they dispensed a lot of Ivermectin in India and also had good results.

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Well, that muddies the water if they were taking both IVM and HCQ.

Some African countries were taking IVM: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33795896/

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WTF I take IVM weekly as part of my regimen against the Chink Virus. Now it looks as though it'll kill any mosquitos trying to feast on my blood.

I learned something new today...thanks, Miki.

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Hahaha! Anytime.

By the way, I recall in RFK Jrs book that he took HCQ as a child when he traveled to Africa with his family. So you are both correct 👍

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This is absolutely true.

My brother travelled to Africa in 1974. He started taking one of the Chloroquine derivatives three weeks before he left the states. He ended up staying for 9 months. Towards the end of his trip he ran out of his anti-malarial, got malaria, and had to be packed out of the jungle by some French guy he befriended in his travels.

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Exactly. Ivermectin is the key to staying well.

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Agree it would be going nuts. bloody horse paste.

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Don't get the paste, get the liquid injectable--less junk in it--only take it orally at the proper dose.

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All due respect, there are pills as well. Cheers.

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When will the Australian citizenry demand the arrest and imprisonment of the WEF sociopaths who have infested their national government?

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Most of them don't have a clue is my guess because no one is pointing out this data in their local/state government and media. They simply have no reason to think anything is amiss.

The same is going on in the US but the damn broke in the UK with 1,000 excess deaths weekly. It's only a matter of time before Sen. Rand Paul pushes the button and the issue is on the table here too.

They all know it's inevitable too. So, the operation to put this all on President Trump's shoulders is now well underway.

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Please don’t flog the Australian peoples to harshly, They live in a completely controlled bubble of state approved censorship. This site cannot be accessed.

Cannot. Be. Accessed.

Think about the control that gives Australian .gov.

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Well, I am in Australia and am accessing it right now. We're not completely in a bubble. Lots of us know what is going on.

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me three!

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I'm in Melbourne.......I think I'm here and I'm a real person, not a bot!!

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....none are so blind as those who refuse to see. As an un-jabbed Aussie, I don't even talk to others about the jab - the majority of whom are jabbed. Mass formation has taken them. They cling to the belief in the death jab propagated by the MSM and I am not even going to try to figure out why. Whatever it is that motivates them does not motivate me. I care because there are among them those who are close to me, but once they are jabbed what is the point? I can't help them.

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100% correct!

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Sep 8, 2022·edited Sep 9, 2022

And the US media and government have been so open and transparent!!!

Every news station.....

Sponsored by Pfizer.

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G’day from Queensland Australia. It’s terrible what’s happening in Victoria, but Substack IS most definitely available here mate 🤘🏼

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I'm in NSW Australia and am on Substack daily. It ain't China here (yet). The MSM is a joke in Aus , as it is in the US, UK and Europe so turn the crap off and do your own research - problem solved.

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Sorry mate, I’m accessing it from Sydney

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