So listen up, WI has an immunization registry I was COMPLETELY unaware of until someone spoke of it on Twitter. All you need is a person's name, birth date and social security number (hello, all employers have this information.) I looked up all my adult kids' information with the click of a few keystrokes. They have my 28 yo daughter as Covid 19 vaccination recommended in March 2022 (i.e. the booster as she's been double jabbed and she's Covid recovered.) She regrets getting jabbed now (I pretty much begged her not to do it.) She did it so she could have easy access to entertainment in NYC, she now lives in Jersey. My point is, better find out if your state has this. I NEVER consented to my information being in such a data base. I am going to opt out all my family members. Shouldn't we have had to opt IN???? Disgusted, yet again.
Oh crap, just found the same in MN. I can look up my kids but not my spouse, so I guess there's that. Don't know what rights employers have but it's all there in the database ready to be hacked by China.
Conspiracy theorists quickly turning into prophets. There is almost zero doubt in my mind at this point that the response to COVID has always been part of a long term play to control all economic behavior through CBDC. https://faybomb.substack.com/p/how-the-experiment-ends
You have discovered the End Game—a western version of the CCP social credit system.
Look now for the narrative to change to “show us your natural immunity passport.” A bill in the House was already passed that moves in that direction under the pretext of benevolently offering consideration for those with natural immunity. Communists and Fascists!
These kinds of databases likely exist in every state and at the federal level. There is no reason, ever, for the government to keep databases on the medical care, treatments, and Rxs of individuals! What possible purpose do these databases serve? They are a gross intrusion of privacy and on civil liberties!!
Remember Nanshee saying "you can see what's in the bill after you pass it?" Well now you're seeing what's in it. The vax database just passed I believe as a rider on the CR bill.
I just checked in WI. I could see one of my children, my husband but the rest of my family or me wasn't listed. Unbelievable that this information is online. It's no ones business but between you and a doctor.
You will only be in there if you've had immunizations in WI. For instance, daughter #2 had her Covid vaccine in WA state so her Covid Vaccine is not included but all her childhood vaccines are.
Yup. Don't get me started on the conversation I had with someone in their office. I requested ALL my info be removed, and they claimed that "can't happen." Well, we'll see.
Most states have a registry for children. Louisiana added adults to the children's registry in their 2019 session. You give implied consent for the database by showing up. It's disgusting. Usually, you can write to the DOH to have your record removed. It doesn't, however, delete your record. They will just hide it from everyone except your state's DOH.
My sis lives in Wisc and said she received an un-solicited notification on her phone today saying basically she would be notified if she was in contact or proximity to a whu-flu person. Said it was sent from the State of Wisconsin WTF! The Governor there is a real joke...
I just checked my state - Nevada. There is a database but I don't seem to be in it. I would be pretty disturbed if I was somehow in it given that I am an immigrant so I was never vaccinated as a child in the United States.
Maryland has an immunology registry supposedly only accessible in accordance with FERPA and HIPAA and etc. It has an opt out form you can fill out online:
Lol. My sister just texted me to tell me that I need to get vaccinated now because Omicron can evade natural immunity, but if you have two shots and natural immunity youre ok. Hocus Pocus.
I just fucking ignored her. I'm not arguing with drones, nor am I indulging their panic porn induced LARP.
Soon you'll hear these magic formulas like: Pfizer dose 1 then four weeks later Moderna dose 2 then 8 weeks later another Pfizer - that's optimal Omicron protection!
Oh, and that type of discussion is fine, but me talking about vitamin D or ivermectin or Xclear or saunas and exercise - yeah, I'm the crazy one.
Had the same conversation with some covid nut. "You just got lucky that your whole family had mild cases of covid and didn't end up on ventilators, you'll get sick again and be on a ventilator but my three shots guarantee I won't die." I smiled and walked away.
Yes, and to hear her describe her last almost two years of not going anywhere, I'd rather rather risk a ventilator. I have teenagers, what kind of life would that be for them had I lived in fear?
Alex, the scary thing about this study is that read a certain way, it can be made as a supporting argument FOR boosters, since they do offer protection.
I hear public health officials suggest, almost wistfully, that the 3rd dose is the one that will extend immunity out for over a year. But that if it comes to it, they will go to a 4th, 5th, or however many doses are needed.
I am at a loss for words for what it will take to demonstrate to these lunatics that These. THINGS. ARE. NOT. WORKING
I believe this is the goal. Booster subscription service. Ongoing revenue stream. And, of course, after two years, your body basically will be begging for another booster and you're too dependent to go without one. And two years more feeble. So why risk it?
We long ago decided that the way out of this is through an unproven vaccine technology against a virus that has been around in many forms (mostly harmless) for a long period of time that we have never been able to control.
The study can only be read that way if "Boosters: Up to two whole months of demonstrated improvement!" counts as an advertisement. And Omicron appears to have thrown that two months out of the window based on early results. Booster infection efficacy may disappear after 2 months or may not even last 2 months against Cron, we don't know yet.
Pretty sure the 3rd shot will not be the terminal station for most. There must be a reason why Canada, Australia and the UK all preordered 10 shots per man, woman and child.
I work with Norwegians on a daily basis. They are at 90% 2-shot vaccination ages 18+ and are experiencing the highest cases/hospitalizations/death since this all started. At first, they blamed rising cases on the young people that were unvaccinated. Now, they are blaming the immigrant populations. They are convinced that all hospitalizations are unvaccinated. Total compliance with whatever the government tells them.
I think if you're a good obedient citizen you can't easily fathom this level of deceit and malfeasance by your medical establishment and government. So you rationalize and die.
They'll figure it out soon, they all know vaxxed people sick and/or hospitalized and/or dead. Shifting the blame to immigrants is a refreshing twist, and a sign that they are staring to smell the BS, ditching the first narratives of "blame the unvaxxed" and "blame the kids." They'll get there.
As an aside: I am a physician who gets the far left MedPage Today emails containing opinions and studies reflecting the typical party line about Covid and vaccines. I have been banned because of my dissenting comments. I gave up Facebook because of its far left leanings and censorship. But I still troll them by posting these reports by Alex. The corruption runs deep in the medical community.
You are so right. Fauci is evil but he's not ignorant. He can read and understand these studies better than the average person can. He purposely ignores the facts and continues with the propaganda and fear mongering, knowingly and willfully harming and killing people for the greater globalist cause. Justice WILL be done .....but it may not be in this life.
I agree that people will ignore all the FACTS and believe govt. I’ve had only friend who allowed me to discuss, and she won’t get the vax. She did have covid last July. 58 yo. I got her on Ivm since her doc only gave her prednisone then, zpak. She kept getting worse. Started ivm at day 7-8. That evening she noticed a difference and started feeling better already as she was the this point so ill could barely get to bathroom. Most others, just don't want to hear negative news. They are fooled into believing this is over or that its not an attempt at totalitarianism.
This is a key point. We know from Fauci's emails that he has all the required information, he just ignores what doesn't push the political narrative of the day.
Interesting how all these studies about the superiority of natural immunity come out of Israel, the country pushing 3rd and 4th shots more than any other. So they don't follow their own results?
Because the finding they are actually pushing is to get vaccinated even if you have natural immunity. As stated in a comment above, the data does show a risk reduction in re-infection from 10 in 100k to 5 in 100k. Hey that's HALF the chance of getting re-infected! Of course, both numbers are tiny.
As a Covid recovered, the column I am looking at is "severe Covid" upon reinfection for my sex/age. It's 10 per 100,000 risk days vs 5 if I had subsequently been vaccinated. Naw dog, I'm not purposely getting sick (because almost everyone does after being jabbed) for minimal increased protection. I do not fear a second go around with Covid, first one wasn't that bad.
Peter McCullough does not believe there is ANY true reinfection, people may think one of their illnesses was covid, but PCR testing is nonsense, must clue with Antigen testing or culture to confirm. CDC still cannot produce one example of true reinfection.
Not gonna argue with that. I've been living normal life for 13 months, surely exposed and nada. Hubs (who did get the JnJ jab and had Covid) has been REPEATEDLY exposed as an ENT doc who refuses to wear an N95 or goggles. Just scoped someone who tested positive last week, very high risk exposure for him..he's fine.
Does anyone here get the feeling these Vax Pushers are looking for a way to get out of this mess, and they're -- in typical, modern governing fashion -- throwing anything they can at it to see what sticks, and they are killing and injuring thousands in the process? And I think this is a best case scenario.
The whorish JAMA had a letter last summer claiming a shot after recovery from covid would give you "bulletproof" immunity. Their words. "Bulletproof" isn't a quantifiable term. And the bozos who wrote that probably didn't have any data to go on.
Finally, a study that shows what I've experienced. I had Covid before it became a pandemic. Was given an inhaler to help me, what a joke. That was Feb. 2020. My daughter was in Morocco on a service trip and got Covid, I had to fly over and take care of her, unvaccinated in August 2021 - Delta variant. She had 2-3 days of feeling ill, lost taste and sense of smell. She's young and healthy, I wasn't worried. I had to take COVID test to return home, and was negative. I was unvaccinated and with my daughter while she was feverish and not infected. So I have to ask, because the current variant is mild, would it be better if those who haven't had Covid, get Covid now? Would that make them immune?
I have not had Covid that I know of however, my mother was in a nursing home in NYS and she came down with Covid. Since she was in a nursing home, prior to her infection, I was not allowed to see her. Nobody was allowed in except of course the people she apparently caught it from but I digress. Covid patients were allowed a compassion visit so I went to see her. They made me mask up, wear a face shield and a gown. She was pretty sick and didn’t recognize me with all the crap I had on so I took it off. I spent at least an hour and a half with her in close proximity. Her hearing was lousy so we spoke face to face(less than the mythical 6 foot the Covid cult touts. Then I drive home(6 hours in the car with my wife) and lo and behold, neither of us had any symptoms of Covid after the visit. If the bug is really that deadly and transmissible, I should have caught it from my mom and then my wife from me. As I recall, my mom came down with the bug about 3 days after she got her first jab and shortly after my visit, she had her 1st stroke. She had at least 6 strokes in the time between her ‘vaccination’ and her death in September. The experience leads me to believe either I had natural immunity from an infection that was so mild I didn’t know it or it isn’t really that transmissible or maybe I am super human (I am not as I have a few comorbitities and some whacky neurological malady). It also leads me to be very wary of the jab. The crescendo of strokes I hind sight were probably due to the jab.
2sing - that's great that your prior immunity to the original Wuhan strain protected you from Delta.
I've definitely come to the opinion that it's best to just get covid and get it over with. And then ideally be exposed repeatedly so that we experience natural boosting of the memory cell apparatus.
I agree. In fact, I had the antibody test in April 2021, and the virologist that read the report assumed I had just been vaccinated because the results were high. That was over year after having Covid. I'm sure I was exposed to it, as I continued to travel and live my life as normally as I could.
This is not meant to be insulting- this is an honest question because I know no one who has had COVID. If her symptoms were as you state, why did she need your help? I’m repeatedly confused by people who state the symptoms are so mild and then talk about it as if it’s the worst thing they ever experienced. I don’t get it!
Oh, sorry, I should’ve mentioned she’s a minor and the program was literally on its last day when she got her results. So I had to fly out to be with her while she quarantined.
If it's not the goal, it certainly seems to tbe the result. And I'm not a big believer in the law of unintended consequences when it involves our current elites.
The omicron will hopefully finally teach the vaxxed mandate crew that being vaxxed basically means nothing after 2 or so months. Either that, or they will mandate that people get vaxxed every 2 months now. We are already seeing it in colleges. Though even in vaccine crazed WA state, Inslee hasn’t opted to make people get boosted to keep their jobs (yet) but the worker shortages are at the top of the headlines so he probably can’t do much more without causing societal breakdown.
I just hope that all my friends and family who got fired over the vaccine mandates here in WA/OR eventually get compensated. Especially as the failure of the vaccine becomes more and more obvious.
Tessa - some of us in the community college system of WA still have our jobs (exemptions granted) but rumblings are that they will no longer provide accommodations beginning in April - so even more terminations coming, and that's BEFORE Inslee has mandated the booster.
Honestly, Tessa, I think he'll do it. I predict sometime in January when winter cases are high and everyone is freaking out. They have plenty of marxists lined up to replace the last of the critical thinking professors. It's the ultimate weed-out and this state is headed toward utter totalitarianism.
The weeding out aspect is the most significant opportunity provided by mass hysteria, far more insidious than money grubbing or momentary status elevation. Those who do not comply--who are willing to give up income, livelihood, public services (incl schools, healthcare, etc.), and face down threats--are the hard core who will continually resist totalitarianism. Once they are out of the institutions and banished from public life all bets are off. Those who remain and comply will be obedience tested until they become automatons or floridly crack up trying to cope with cognitive dissonance and despair. To prevent this from happening people, whether vaccinated or not, must resist loudly and mock these monsters relentlessly.
Exactly the point I have been making for months! Once they remove all the 'refusers' from the medical industry, what will those who remain sign up to do to you?
How a medical professional ethically suggests to a person who has pure natural immunity needs to be injected in addition is at the "very least" medical malpractice and at worst criminal. Perhaps both! Anyone who has basic understanding of immunology 101 knows there is no need for injection for those with pure natural immunity.
More proof your natural body and immune system designed by God is far superior than anything designed by man. Not against modern science or medicine, just when given a choice, I'll let my system do it's work. I had Covid last March and it was fairly rough but now that I'm over it, why would I let big pharma or big government inject me with an experimental therapeutic drug that seems to be faltering fast...? The biggest insult is a one size fits all approach to interfering with private health care decisions. Calling out the un-shot with denial of care, increased insurance premiums etc. is the most outrageous of all. It appears the more liberal / progressive, the more willing someone is to trample on your personal freedom. San Francisco has had 3X more drug OD deaths than Covid yet they continue to give out free needles while I cannot eat indoors without the proper papers. Logical? Not in this world. Pray. Plan. Prepare. RESIST.
If you think about it, all vaccines are only trying to induce your body's natural response to infection. So how could vaccination immunity possibly be better than your body's recovery from real infection? It doesn't even make a bit of logical sense.
So listen up, WI has an immunization registry I was COMPLETELY unaware of until someone spoke of it on Twitter. All you need is a person's name, birth date and social security number (hello, all employers have this information.) I looked up all my adult kids' information with the click of a few keystrokes. They have my 28 yo daughter as Covid 19 vaccination recommended in March 2022 (i.e. the booster as she's been double jabbed and she's Covid recovered.) She regrets getting jabbed now (I pretty much begged her not to do it.) She did it so she could have easy access to entertainment in NYC, she now lives in Jersey. My point is, better find out if your state has this. I NEVER consented to my information being in such a data base. I am going to opt out all my family members. Shouldn't we have had to opt IN???? Disgusted, yet again.
Oh crap, just found the same in MN. I can look up my kids but not my spouse, so I guess there's that. Don't know what rights employers have but it's all there in the database ready to be hacked by China.
Conspiracy theorists quickly turning into prophets. There is almost zero doubt in my mind at this point that the response to COVID has always been part of a long term play to control all economic behavior through CBDC. https://faybomb.substack.com/p/how-the-experiment-ends
It’s only a conspiracy theory for about 6 months now. How to talk to your conspiracy theorist friends: “I’m sorry man, you were right all along.”
You have discovered the End Game—a western version of the CCP social credit system.
Look now for the narrative to change to “show us your natural immunity passport.” A bill in the House was already passed that moves in that direction under the pretext of benevolently offering consideration for those with natural immunity. Communists and Fascists!
These kinds of databases likely exist in every state and at the federal level. There is no reason, ever, for the government to keep databases on the medical care, treatments, and Rxs of individuals! What possible purpose do these databases serve? They are a gross intrusion of privacy and on civil liberties!!
Remember Nanshee saying "you can see what's in the bill after you pass it?" Well now you're seeing what's in it. The vax database just passed I believe as a rider on the CR bill.
Seems like these medical databases were a part of Obamacare. I might be wrong, but it rings a bell.
I believe these states are violating HIPAA.
Just checked Massachusetts.
Yep. There it is.
Wait...not sure exactly how this is supposed to work.
The state website links to location where vaccination was done. (In this case Walgreens.)
Then Walgreens has a sign-in function--they text a code to the cellphone.
However I'm sure the state health department can access all this.
I just checked in WI. I could see one of my children, my husband but the rest of my family or me wasn't listed. Unbelievable that this information is online. It's no ones business but between you and a doctor.
They left it out of the HIPAA law for a reason.....
You will only be in there if you've had immunizations in WI. For instance, daughter #2 had her Covid vaccine in WA state so her Covid Vaccine is not included but all her childhood vaccines are.
I hope Maryland doesn't have this but I'll check.
I hope it shows me with middle fingers erect
https://health.maryland.gov/phpa/OIDEOR/IMMUN/Pages/optout.aspx
Yup. Don't get me started on the conversation I had with someone in their office. I requested ALL my info be removed, and they claimed that "can't happen." Well, we'll see.
Most states have a registry for children. Louisiana added adults to the children's registry in their 2019 session. You give implied consent for the database by showing up. It's disgusting. Usually, you can write to the DOH to have your record removed. It doesn't, however, delete your record. They will just hide it from everyone except your state's DOH.
Disgusting. Does it let you opt out? Absolutely disgusting.
WI has no opt out button
My sis lives in Wisc and said she received an un-solicited notification on her phone today saying basically she would be notified if she was in contact or proximity to a whu-flu person. Said it was sent from the State of Wisconsin WTF! The Governor there is a real joke...
What do you expect when you elect an educator. He's worthless.
No offense to you teachers out there, he was our state super.
You can fill out a form to opt out. https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/forms/f05102.pdf
Thank you! Will be doing this!
Wow, that's insane!
pretty sure EVERY state has an "iis" or "immunization information system".
I just checked my state - Nevada. There is a database but I don't seem to be in it. I would be pretty disturbed if I was somehow in it given that I am an immigrant so I was never vaccinated as a child in the United States.
Maryland has an immunology registry supposedly only accessible in accordance with FERPA and HIPAA and etc. It has an opt out form you can fill out online:
https://health.maryland.gov/phpa/OIDEOR/IMMUN/Pages/optout.aspx
I just filled it out and opted out
North Carolina has an immunization registry. The public can access it but you have to provide your name, address, email and phone number.
That's all public info! Too easy to access with stuff you can get from coworkers or classmates.
I believe other states have access to info on this site. I NEVER consented for any of my personal medical information to be placed here!
https://health.maryland.gov/phpa/OIDEOR/IMMUN/Pages/immunet.aspx
Lol. My sister just texted me to tell me that I need to get vaccinated now because Omicron can evade natural immunity, but if you have two shots and natural immunity youre ok. Hocus Pocus.
I just fucking ignored her. I'm not arguing with drones, nor am I indulging their panic porn induced LARP.
Soon you'll hear these magic formulas like: Pfizer dose 1 then four weeks later Moderna dose 2 then 8 weeks later another Pfizer - that's optimal Omicron protection!
Oh, and that type of discussion is fine, but me talking about vitamin D or ivermectin or Xclear or saunas and exercise - yeah, I'm the crazy one.
Had the same conversation with some covid nut. "You just got lucky that your whole family had mild cases of covid and didn't end up on ventilators, you'll get sick again and be on a ventilator but my three shots guarantee I won't die." I smiled and walked away.
Oh, cough cough, ivermectin...hcq... Cough
But….. everyone dies, right?
I live in California so at this point I hope so.
Yes, and to hear her describe her last almost two years of not going anywhere, I'd rather rather risk a ventilator. I have teenagers, what kind of life would that be for them had I lived in fear?
As you know, she couldn't be MORE wrong.
Such BS
You're right not to argue with her. Say something like, "I'll take my chances, thanks."
Great link...thanks!
Alex, the scary thing about this study is that read a certain way, it can be made as a supporting argument FOR boosters, since they do offer protection.
I hear public health officials suggest, almost wistfully, that the 3rd dose is the one that will extend immunity out for over a year. But that if it comes to it, they will go to a 4th, 5th, or however many doses are needed.
I am at a loss for words for what it will take to demonstrate to these lunatics that These. THINGS. ARE. NOT. WORKING
Au contraire, Bash. One could reasonably infer thesee THINGS. ARE. WORKING. EXACTLY. AS. PLANNED.
If at first you do not succeed, Boost, Boost ,again !
I believe this is the goal. Booster subscription service. Ongoing revenue stream. And, of course, after two years, your body basically will be begging for another booster and you're too dependent to go without one. And two years more feeble. So why risk it?
We long ago decided that the way out of this is through an unproven vaccine technology against a virus that has been around in many forms (mostly harmless) for a long period of time that we have never been able to control.
Ugg, and the way our experts cherry pick, it's going to be boosters forever!
15 boosters to flatten the curve!
OR they will say if you've had Covid, you are more protected with the vaccine. I'm not looking at this study as a win.
Biker - the study was fine, but the interpretations suck. ;-)
The study can only be read that way if "Boosters: Up to two whole months of demonstrated improvement!" counts as an advertisement. And Omicron appears to have thrown that two months out of the window based on early results. Booster infection efficacy may disappear after 2 months or may not even last 2 months against Cron, we don't know yet.
Besides, severe efficacy - the only durable benefit from the vaccines - means boosters are unwarranted, as even the FDA resigners admitted (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/11/29/booster-shots-universal-opinion/)
Pretty sure the 3rd shot will not be the terminal station for most. There must be a reason why Canada, Australia and the UK all preordered 10 shots per man, woman and child.
I work with Norwegians on a daily basis. They are at 90% 2-shot vaccination ages 18+ and are experiencing the highest cases/hospitalizations/death since this all started. At first, they blamed rising cases on the young people that were unvaccinated. Now, they are blaming the immigrant populations. They are convinced that all hospitalizations are unvaccinated. Total compliance with whatever the government tells them.
I think if you're a good obedient citizen you can't easily fathom this level of deceit and malfeasance by your medical establishment and government. So you rationalize and die.
They'll figure it out soon, they all know vaxxed people sick and/or hospitalized and/or dead. Shifting the blame to immigrants is a refreshing twist, and a sign that they are staring to smell the BS, ditching the first narratives of "blame the unvaxxed" and "blame the kids." They'll get there.
As an aside: I am a physician who gets the far left MedPage Today emails containing opinions and studies reflecting the typical party line about Covid and vaccines. I have been banned because of my dissenting comments. I gave up Facebook because of its far left leanings and censorship. But I still troll them by posting these reports by Alex. The corruption runs deep in the medical community.
Thank you for holding the line. I am sure it comes at great personal cost.
Well, let me state the obvious here: Fauci's "ignorance" of natural immunity is criminal. The DOD's ignorance of natural immunity may well be Treason.
You are so right. Fauci is evil but he's not ignorant. He can read and understand these studies better than the average person can. He purposely ignores the facts and continues with the propaganda and fear mongering, knowingly and willfully harming and killing people for the greater globalist cause. Justice WILL be done .....but it may not be in this life.
Who is John galt?
I wish the right people would read this.
That's why it's time to push back. Stop complying.
Non compliance is my middle name.
I question the perpetually frightened by asking, "Do you know anyone who was hospitalized with covid?" Very few say yes.
If the answer is 'yes,' the next question is, "Did they die?"
Not one person has answered yes to the second question. Not one.
I know a few, and some who died there. Because they were denied early treatment by our idiot doctors
That's a great way to approach it. I'm going to borrow your technique.
Help yourself. I've found it to be very enlightening.
I agree that people will ignore all the FACTS and believe govt. I’ve had only friend who allowed me to discuss, and she won’t get the vax. She did have covid last July. 58 yo. I got her on Ivm since her doc only gave her prednisone then, zpak. She kept getting worse. Started ivm at day 7-8. That evening she noticed a difference and started feeling better already as she was the this point so ill could barely get to bathroom. Most others, just don't want to hear negative news. They are fooled into believing this is over or that its not an attempt at totalitarianism.
The ivm is really remarkable. I felt better after the first dose. Wondered if it was psychological but I hear other people say that
I have heard too many say the same. It truly does work.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/judge-holds-hospital-in-contempt-of-court-for-refusing-ivermectin-covid-patient?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20211214Trending-JudgeIvermectin&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News
This is a key point. We know from Fauci's emails that he has all the required information, he just ignores what doesn't push the political narrative of the day.
Good point.
Interesting how all these studies about the superiority of natural immunity come out of Israel, the country pushing 3rd and 4th shots more than any other. So they don't follow their own results?
That baffles me as well.
Because the finding they are actually pushing is to get vaccinated even if you have natural immunity. As stated in a comment above, the data does show a risk reduction in re-infection from 10 in 100k to 5 in 100k. Hey that's HALF the chance of getting re-infected! Of course, both numbers are tiny.
As a Covid recovered, the column I am looking at is "severe Covid" upon reinfection for my sex/age. It's 10 per 100,000 risk days vs 5 if I had subsequently been vaccinated. Naw dog, I'm not purposely getting sick (because almost everyone does after being jabbed) for minimal increased protection. I do not fear a second go around with Covid, first one wasn't that bad.
Peter McCullough does not believe there is ANY true reinfection, people may think one of their illnesses was covid, but PCR testing is nonsense, must clue with Antigen testing or culture to confirm. CDC still cannot produce one example of true reinfection.
Not gonna argue with that. I've been living normal life for 13 months, surely exposed and nada. Hubs (who did get the JnJ jab and had Covid) has been REPEATEDLY exposed as an ENT doc who refuses to wear an N95 or goggles. Just scoped someone who tested positive last week, very high risk exposure for him..he's fine.
*couple, not "clue" 🥴
Does anyone here get the feeling these Vax Pushers are looking for a way to get out of this mess, and they're -- in typical, modern governing fashion -- throwing anything they can at it to see what sticks, and they are killing and injuring thousands in the process? And I think this is a best case scenario.
The whorish JAMA had a letter last summer claiming a shot after recovery from covid would give you "bulletproof" immunity. Their words. "Bulletproof" isn't a quantifiable term. And the bozos who wrote that probably didn't have any data to go on.
Finally, a study that shows what I've experienced. I had Covid before it became a pandemic. Was given an inhaler to help me, what a joke. That was Feb. 2020. My daughter was in Morocco on a service trip and got Covid, I had to fly over and take care of her, unvaccinated in August 2021 - Delta variant. She had 2-3 days of feeling ill, lost taste and sense of smell. She's young and healthy, I wasn't worried. I had to take COVID test to return home, and was negative. I was unvaccinated and with my daughter while she was feverish and not infected. So I have to ask, because the current variant is mild, would it be better if those who haven't had Covid, get Covid now? Would that make them immune?
I have not had Covid that I know of however, my mother was in a nursing home in NYS and she came down with Covid. Since she was in a nursing home, prior to her infection, I was not allowed to see her. Nobody was allowed in except of course the people she apparently caught it from but I digress. Covid patients were allowed a compassion visit so I went to see her. They made me mask up, wear a face shield and a gown. She was pretty sick and didn’t recognize me with all the crap I had on so I took it off. I spent at least an hour and a half with her in close proximity. Her hearing was lousy so we spoke face to face(less than the mythical 6 foot the Covid cult touts. Then I drive home(6 hours in the car with my wife) and lo and behold, neither of us had any symptoms of Covid after the visit. If the bug is really that deadly and transmissible, I should have caught it from my mom and then my wife from me. As I recall, my mom came down with the bug about 3 days after she got her first jab and shortly after my visit, she had her 1st stroke. She had at least 6 strokes in the time between her ‘vaccination’ and her death in September. The experience leads me to believe either I had natural immunity from an infection that was so mild I didn’t know it or it isn’t really that transmissible or maybe I am super human (I am not as I have a few comorbitities and some whacky neurological malady). It also leads me to be very wary of the jab. The crescendo of strokes I hind sight were probably due to the jab.
2sing - that's great that your prior immunity to the original Wuhan strain protected you from Delta.
I've definitely come to the opinion that it's best to just get covid and get it over with. And then ideally be exposed repeatedly so that we experience natural boosting of the memory cell apparatus.
I agree. In fact, I had the antibody test in April 2021, and the virologist that read the report assumed I had just been vaccinated because the results were high. That was over year after having Covid. I'm sure I was exposed to it, as I continued to travel and live my life as normally as I could.
This is not meant to be insulting- this is an honest question because I know no one who has had COVID. If her symptoms were as you state, why did she need your help? I’m repeatedly confused by people who state the symptoms are so mild and then talk about it as if it’s the worst thing they ever experienced. I don’t get it!
Oh, sorry, I should’ve mentioned she’s a minor and the program was literally on its last day when she got her results. So I had to fly out to be with her while she quarantined.
Got it. Thank you, I appreciate it.
Isn’t the goal to prevent us from developing long term covid immunity? Bad for the business model..
If it's not the goal, it certainly seems to tbe the result. And I'm not a big believer in the law of unintended consequences when it involves our current elites.
Every decision is a bad decision in the same direction. Every one. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
The omicron will hopefully finally teach the vaxxed mandate crew that being vaxxed basically means nothing after 2 or so months. Either that, or they will mandate that people get vaxxed every 2 months now. We are already seeing it in colleges. Though even in vaccine crazed WA state, Inslee hasn’t opted to make people get boosted to keep their jobs (yet) but the worker shortages are at the top of the headlines so he probably can’t do much more without causing societal breakdown.
I just hope that all my friends and family who got fired over the vaccine mandates here in WA/OR eventually get compensated. Especially as the failure of the vaccine becomes more and more obvious.
Tessa - some of us in the community college system of WA still have our jobs (exemptions granted) but rumblings are that they will no longer provide accommodations beginning in April - so even more terminations coming, and that's BEFORE Inslee has mandated the booster.
Honestly, Tessa, I think he'll do it. I predict sometime in January when winter cases are high and everyone is freaking out. They have plenty of marxists lined up to replace the last of the critical thinking professors. It's the ultimate weed-out and this state is headed toward utter totalitarianism.
The weeding out aspect is the most significant opportunity provided by mass hysteria, far more insidious than money grubbing or momentary status elevation. Those who do not comply--who are willing to give up income, livelihood, public services (incl schools, healthcare, etc.), and face down threats--are the hard core who will continually resist totalitarianism. Once they are out of the institutions and banished from public life all bets are off. Those who remain and comply will be obedience tested until they become automatons or floridly crack up trying to cope with cognitive dissonance and despair. To prevent this from happening people, whether vaccinated or not, must resist loudly and mock these monsters relentlessly.
Exactly the point I have been making for months! Once they remove all the 'refusers' from the medical industry, what will those who remain sign up to do to you?
Of course he'll do it. Inslee is 100% down with the Gates/Bezos/CCP plan of ruining the country. At this point he's got no other play.
When is he running for re-election?
He was just 're-elected' in 2020. Of course, we do 100% mail-in and use Dominion machines, so......we don't know if we REALLY voted for him.
Kind of like the Sawant recall election.
That is very unfortunate--and scary.
How a medical professional ethically suggests to a person who has pure natural immunity needs to be injected in addition is at the "very least" medical malpractice and at worst criminal. Perhaps both! Anyone who has basic understanding of immunology 101 knows there is no need for injection for those with pure natural immunity.
Especially knowing that the jab only lasts about 3 months.
More proof your natural body and immune system designed by God is far superior than anything designed by man. Not against modern science or medicine, just when given a choice, I'll let my system do it's work. I had Covid last March and it was fairly rough but now that I'm over it, why would I let big pharma or big government inject me with an experimental therapeutic drug that seems to be faltering fast...? The biggest insult is a one size fits all approach to interfering with private health care decisions. Calling out the un-shot with denial of care, increased insurance premiums etc. is the most outrageous of all. It appears the more liberal / progressive, the more willing someone is to trample on your personal freedom. San Francisco has had 3X more drug OD deaths than Covid yet they continue to give out free needles while I cannot eat indoors without the proper papers. Logical? Not in this world. Pray. Plan. Prepare. RESIST.
If you think about it, all vaccines are only trying to induce your body's natural response to infection. So how could vaccination immunity possibly be better than your body's recovery from real infection? It doesn't even make a bit of logical sense.
^This is a very good perspective.