A healthy five-year-old boy suffered a severe coronary artery aneurysm less than two months after his first Pfizer Covid jab, physicians reported in a paper published Friday.
The boy had previously had a mild Covid infection, but the physicians believed the mRNA shot might have been responsible for the aneurysm and advised his parents to delay a second shot indefinitely.
Fortunately, the boy recovered following hospitalization and multiple anti-inflammatory treatments, including steroids and a monoclonal antibody usually used to treat serious auto-immune disorders. He required a much longer course of steroids than is normal, the physicians reported.
The report describes only one case. But it shows that mRNA shots may carry a risk of causing aneurysms - bulges in blood vessels thay can be fatal if they burst - in healthy people.
On Dec. 9, Grant Wahl, a prominent soccer reporter who had publicly advocated for Covid vaccines, died suddenly in Qatar while covering the World Cup.
On Wednesday, Dr. Celine Gounder, Wahl’s wife and an infectious disease physician who in 2021 advocated for Covid vaccine passports to enter public places, said a ruptured aortic aneurysm had caused Wahl’s death. Wahl’s death could not have been vaccine-related, Dr. Gounder said.
Covid vaccine advocates went on to attack me and anyone else who questioned whether Wahl’s history of mRNA vaccinations could have played any role in the development of his aneurysm.
Of course, this case does not prove anything about Wahl’s death. But it is evidence that the shots may contribute to cardiovascular problems beyond their known risk of myocarditis - and it shows, yet again, how little we know about potential short- and long-term side effects from mRNA shots, even after more than 1 billion people have received them.
Its becoming a moot point to point out the injection causations. None of it has led to a single person remotely held accountable in close to 3 years now. I can imagine seeing these stories 1 year, 3 year and 5 years + and still no one responsible for it all will have been held responsible in any meaningful way. It's truly a disgrace beyond measure knowing what has been done to humanity and will continue.
The only people held accountable are the people brave enough to speak out. They’re being held accountable for presenting the data in a meaningful way, aka “misinformation”, by the people who refuse to acknowledge what the data may indicate.
Hear you, but when did having the criminals actually admit what they have done have to do with actually holding the obvious perps to account? I never understood that consideration to be honest. Why would you think these evil individuals with little or no remorse would admit anyway? Its like expecting the MSM to report on the obvious...it's just not gonna happen
In context moot "in my intent" is NOTHING is done about IT! Not ONE person responsible for it all has remotely been held accountable. Not ONE in almost 3 years and we know who many of these perps are. Its a disgrace of epic proportions really what was allowed and continues unabated. Just sayin...again
Absolutely on what you mention about DeSantis! Who else has remotely come close to taking the stands he has on the right? Would like to see the checkbook on Hutchinson and the stocks he owns
God bless Ron Johnson -- I believe he was the first person in Congress -- and remains perhaps the only person in Congress? -- to step up decently and fearlessly to bring attention to the subject of Covid vaccine harms, and he continues to promote public awareness of the damage done by vaccine mandates and to pursue justice for victims. He spearheaded the December 2020 hearing in which Pierre Kory gave his groundbreaking, impassioned defense of early treatment with ivermectin. The man is truly a hero.
yes she is in that small group similar to RD. I was gonna mention her as a similar, but not on Ron's level in terms of totality of what he has done and plans to do
One problem was she at first didn't immediately speak out against transgenders in sports. She did not forcefully say boys could not compete in girl's sports. She changed her tune but the damage had been done. IMO.
More than just not speaking out. Gov. Noem vetoed the legislation that would have barred males from girl's sports. I like Gov. Noem but she failed us on this one.
right...she got herself into a not so common (for her) quagmire so to speak didn't she. That scenario left a mark on her, but all in all she is stout and formidable
Yes, perhaps the most galling aspect of all of this is the fact that few folks in authority even want to review the data and to do any kind of long term study of these vaccines. VAERS was set up to be a sort of red flag for problems. Now? It seems like all we hear from officialdom is that VAERS signals mean nothing.
And they are doing (or failing to do) all of this right in front of us.
Asa probably going to run for President. WalMart won’t put him on their Board which is what he really wants. Asa is a total piece of shit. As worthless as teats on a boar hog.
Why is it wrong to ask the vax status of a publicly vocal vax advocate who dies suddenly & unexpectedly, but right for that same vax advocate to demand my vax status to get a hamburger?
My two friends had Covid, then got the shots, then the boosters. One has a PhD, the other has two masters. Their eminent doctor advised them. What is wrong with these people? I am getting a lot less sympathetic with the doctors (zero sympathy for their cowardice at this point) and with our compliant, unquestioning citizens. Wake the f up already!
I was redpilled 25 years ago when my two younger sons were diagnosed with autism and my oldest with ADHD. I did some research on my own and discovered the completely corrupt medical authorities were covering up the connection between vaccinations and these disorders (which they continue to do to this day). They are never going to come clean on these mRNA shots either without a total change in the system that has allowed Big Pharma to control the entire medical care system.
So glad you mentioned because so many newly red pilled have surfaced since the wuh-flu scamdemic was launched relating to just how corrupt the process is with injections. The silver lining hopefully is many many more minds now KNOW this reality, but for many of us this is nothing new as you say you experienced long ago as well. Judy Mikovits in her books and one in particular called the plague of corruption goes into the history of injections and just what nuances occurred in the so called "safe and effective" pursuit to help mankind. Talk about scary...
As a retired RN, I have lost any faith I had left in the medical system!
One thing to understand is that these Drs are no longer Marcus Welby MD....they are owned as in employees! It's called corporatized medicine...hospitals are owned as are medical and dental practices. It has ushered in the era of "treatment by protocols" and rising stock prices!
Not all protocols are bad but most Drs do no critical thinking re the individual they are treating and simply follow the protocols! it was the NIH driven protocol that killed so many in the hospitals....ventilate and treat w Remdesivir which brings on pulmonary edema and kidney failure!!
Many Drs recognized the protocol failure early on and were marginalized. And of course Ivermectin has to be marginalized; no money in that! Riddle me this: how did an entire province in India defeat Covid w ivermectin? How about Africa where it is commonly used for malaria prevention? Did you hear about massive outbreaks in Africa?
There is so much harm that was done and should be considered massive genocide! WHO and CDC says nothing and we know why! They are funded by big pharma and Bill Gates Foundation. The people at the top are of the devil himself!!
Always appreciate hearing from the front lines in terms of speaking reality! It's this reality which makes it more astonishing and surreal to think 3 years in not ONE person responsible for all that has occurred ( and intentionally) to humanity has been remotely held to account. Think of the # of allowed deaths and maiming to occur not to mention the lost livelihoods etc. Not ONE in the entire world has been truly held accountable. What word in the dictionary can describe this other than DISGRACE?
Most who do choose either have no critical thought or trust their doctor too freely. Not sure any of you watched the excellent albeit redundant now interview on theepochtimes.com site last eve with Dr. McCullough and Dr. Malhotra of Britain, but both talked about the stupidity of having had natural immunity from the wuh-flu, yet getting injected again and again anyway. Far worse according to both these cardiologists doing so over getting injected having no exposure prior to said wuh-flu. The cumulative aspects of spike protein exposure is REAL
Personally, I think the number one "side effect" of Covid Vax ADVOCATES is to go into permanent attack mode toward those who don't believe they work or for whatever reason do not want them. The shot seems to attack the part of the mind that dictates, "MY body, MY choice" just as they exercised when they got vaxxed. The only vaxxed people who seem to understand that are the ones who were forced to take it in order to keep a job, or take a trip or go out to eat. They are not advocates, they are victims. The advocates revel in the power of mandates--and that power is the ultimate goal of government sponsored warfare on its own people. We retain the right to question ANYTHING. "Advocates" hold no monopoly on truth--and they prove it every time they refuse/belittle/punish questions on evidence to contrary.
What is lacking in the response from vaccine advocates is a factual explanation as to why an unexpected and unexplained death was or was not caused by vaccination. It seems to me that if you know what a vaccine caused death looks like, you would have a way of ruling out non-vaccine caused deaths (Such research in the case of Covid was unlikely given that the vaccine was rolled out in less than a year).
The fact that condemnation and outrage make frequent appearances in the response to people raising concerns about the role a vaccine may have played in a sudden and unexpected death is a strong indication of a conditioned response triggered by cognitive dissonance.
Actually, the nature of the response from the establishment is "We don't know what it is, but we know that it wasn't caused by the injection." Funny how no one asks how anyone could know that. "Fear is the mind killer" (DUNE).
Exactly. If they admit they don't know what caused it, then they cannot rule out the injection in the same sentence--especially considering the CDC, Moderna and Pfizer have refused to acknowledge VAERS data on the jabs since they started.
Or as in my case three weeks after my second shot, I had classic symptoms of a blood clot and the #1 symptom of coronary distress in women ( jaw pain) and my doctor told me it was too far out from my shot to be the caused by the vaccine.....
Before this tragedy (Which is entering its third year) unfolded, I suspect that a doctor telling you that a treatment isn't causing your most recent problem would be kind of comforting. Now, I wonder if someone encountering the same assurances as you were given is now going to be thinking "But how does the doctor even know that?"
I have read that, prior to boosters, you weren't considered fully vaccinated until you were two weeks after the second dose (Or one dose of the J & J). So, how does one week after being fully vaccinated count as "too far out" to be a cause?
Exactly... but at 70 when you’re having a “ discussion” with a 45 year old female doctor, you ( the patient) get nervous pretty quickly about “ questioning “ your doctor’s logic... but I’ve said no to any boosters and even the current flu shot and she is now fine with that. My last visit in October she admitted one of her kids had a problem with the vaccine... she has three teenagers..
I think it is a sign of the times that, for many people, asking questions is the same as questioning someone's authority or logic. I can't help but wonder if there was something in your doctor's demeanor or affect that suggested you asking questions would be a problem. It is your doctor's job to address your concerns, not your job to address their concerns.
Nonetheless, it appears that reality intruded into your doctor's reality (which may have led to her becoming tolerant of your declining more vaccination).
I don’t believe there will ever be a binary answer to this question on vaccine caused deaths. What is worse is that those affected by mass psychosis formation will never ask to see much less acknowledge the evidence that these mRNA vaccines do not work to prevent infections nor decrease likelihood of death. And, they do have side effects which are ignored.
I think the Scientific Method offers a path through which we can discern more about the vaccine's externalities than what is currently known. However, because corporate forces are strongly discouraging such inquiries, we will not know the true nature and scope of those externalities for some time.
As for Mass Formation Psychosis, I suspect that describes a relatively small percentage of people. Booster uptake has not kept pace with the heavily coerced initial intake of the inoculations. I suspect that a growing number of people suspect that they have been sold a bill of goods, but out of concern for economic survival and social rejection, they are simply too afraid to face, or express, their own doubts.
A friend of mine is a pediatric hospitalist here in Northern Virginia. She told me she watched an 8-year-old previously healthy child, admitted for flu, die of a brain aneurysm. I didn’t ask vax status, but most of the kids around here are vaxxed 3x or as many as possible. Tragedy.
I watched Dr. Gounder’s CBS interview last week. I saw hurt; but also honesty.
Her husband believed that football could change/unite the world. She has a platform to question his death. I believe she should. Even a “maybe” could be the step that starts an honest investigation. Maybe @celinegounder
I believe that at one time she was a member of the Biden COVID response team so like all the other good doctors who know better, she will not speak the truth. She has vehemently said that Grant’s death had nothing to do with COVID or the clot shot. Sadly, I think she doth protest too much.
She won't speak the truth, or even CONSIDER the vax as a cause, for multiple reasons. 1) absolute grief over her partner; 2) she doesn't want to imagine for a second that HER vax advocacy resulted in HIS pro-vax stance and death; 3) Money and power (she'd be shunned from medicine and the media); 4) Biden response team. Etc ...
In a former world (w/ respect, character, etc.), widows would disappear for 3 months of mourning, & ask for privacy. She has to go on TV w/in DAYS and yap about it. Suspicious on its face.
I don’t have a lot of sympathy for doctors who beat the drum for these shots and now won’t even take a second look—that is not science, it’s a cult. Money, stupidity—who knows? Not too long ago she was encouraging pregnant women to get the shots when the safety data on that went from 1. Nonexistent 2. Threadbare and now, 3. Alarming!
I think it is very likely that Big Pharma has most of the medical profession trapped between obscene financial incentives and threats to end careers. Some in the profession will carry Big Pharma's water enthusiastically while others will do just enough to avoid losing their careers. It is disheartening to know that doctors can be lured out from their integrity, but it is hardly surprising.
"The boy had previously had a mild Covid infection, but the physicians believed the mRNA shot might have been responsible for the aneurysm and advised his parents to delay a second shot indefinitely."
NEVER before now have we ever advised vaccination AFTER the illness. I need look no further for evidence of malpractice and doctors who have abandoned any pretense of critical thought. That recommendation alone from the CDC should have raised alarm bells in all of modern medicine.
Talked to the doctor next door. His many cardiologist contacts says their businesses are booming and they have never seen anything like it! "Has nothing to do with the vaccines" they contend! This is another canary in the coal mine!
I still hear people who are injected (multiple times) believe it would have been so much worse without the injection. These are healthy young people too with zero co morbidities. The psychosis is set so- deep. Surreal at times to witness for sure
The "hilarious" place where we're at right now is a strange one where it seems like all the pro-vaxxers have their own "booster story" about how it knocked them on their asses for like three days -- yet they viciously attack anybody who suggests the jab can lead to adverse reactions.
“The enemy—the indispensible devil of every mass movement—is omnipresent. He plots both outside and inside the ranks of the faithful. It is his voice that speaks through the mouth of the dissenter, and the deviationists are his stooges. If anything goes wrong within the movement, it is his doing. It is the sacred duty of the true believer to be suspicious. He must be constantly on the lookout for saboteurs, spies and traitors.” - Hoffer
Which is why pre- Covid it took, on average, 10 years of research/studies before any new drug received FDA approval. Example: Propofol a fantastic anesthetic drug, which literally changed how anesthesia is given, required 13 years of research and studies before FDA approval. Short term and long term (years) effects of a drug are important.
Celebrex...it was FDA approved but as soon as intestinal bleeding was consistently reported in patients, they pulled it. Their failure to put the Vaccines on hold is frightening and bears investigation... but the FDA never researches why their initial research was faulty... thalidomide, DES, birth control pills , Hormone replacement therapy ( funny they stopped hawking those carcinogenic poisons)....
I know... it’s the same for Congress... Canter, Boehner now lobbyists earning close to seven figures....FDA officials should not be sitting on Pharma Boards and visa versa.
The freakazoid globalists got their way. 1 billion people were vaccinated by an untested unproven mrna technology. The death rate is going up and fertility is going down. Just what they want. And no one with the power to hold them accountable.
I have two unrelated family members who had similar. One aortic aneurysm above the heart (repaired) in a healthy adult male. Another aortic aneurysm in lower abdomen (died of other issues; it did not rupture).
I’m thinking that perhaps the worst part of all this, whether in the US or Germany or England or, frankly, anywhere, that there is no ‘official’, organized attempt to learn more about these “unexplained deaths”. Is the deep state that intrusive and dominant that it has killed scientific inquiry?? Not good...
I am amazed at the medical profession's obsession with the phrase - 'safe and effective' - when in all reality very few doctors have read any of the studies (see Simone Gold's excellent Fox Nation talk with Tucker Carlson). Where is their accountability to their Hippocratic Oath? Where is their supposed natural scientific curiosity? When did we get to the point of just accepting what is said out of hand? The doctors of today seem to say - the vaccine didn't cause this or that - and they literally have NO IDEA as those words come out of their mouths. Folks, we as Americans have the ability to walk out of those appointments with doctors who are either, complicit or blind or stupid, enough to continue to wear masks (yes, I've been to a cardiologist with a paper diaper on his face) or push the jabs. I'm concerned with how qualified any doctor who continues to push these and especially any doctor who tells me that HCQ isn't a viable treatment for Covid. Maybe the cardiologist is excellent, but if he's willing to wear a paper diaper mask then he's clearly not making sense in at least one scientific matter. BTW, my wife shows up for a mammogram and the tech asks if she's any recent booster. Of course, my wife says she ain't had NADA: shot, booster, etc. The tech says that's okay, I'm only asking because we've seen quite a few ladies in here recently whose lymph nodes are swollen who've been boosted. Keep in mind, the tech didn't ever say - 'Please don't take the damn thing', but at least she was willing to say the quiet part out loud.
With the dumbing down of education standards to accomodate diversity, let's not forget it has also affected the medical profession!! We are no longer a meritocracy but rather have sacrificed at the altar of feel good diversity!
Its becoming a moot point to point out the injection causations. None of it has led to a single person remotely held accountable in close to 3 years now. I can imagine seeing these stories 1 year, 3 year and 5 years + and still no one responsible for it all will have been held responsible in any meaningful way. It's truly a disgrace beyond measure knowing what has been done to humanity and will continue.
The only people held accountable are the people brave enough to speak out. They’re being held accountable for presenting the data in a meaningful way, aka “misinformation”, by the people who refuse to acknowledge what the data may indicate.
They are going to blame it all on COVID forever.
Held responsible? How about we start by even admitting to the possibility there are severe side effects to this useless vaccine.
Hear you, but when did having the criminals actually admit what they have done have to do with actually holding the obvious perps to account? I never understood that consideration to be honest. Why would you think these evil individuals with little or no remorse would admit anyway? Its like expecting the MSM to report on the obvious...it's just not gonna happen
It’s never moot to report a murder. Get that devilish thought out of your head.
In context moot "in my intent" is NOTHING is done about IT! Not ONE person responsible for it all has remotely been held accountable. Not ONE in almost 3 years and we know who many of these perps are. Its a disgrace of epic proportions really what was allowed and continues unabated. Just sayin...again
Have you joined the convention of states movement to force lawful return of power to the states, powers which are being abused in Washington?
Indeed I have a few years ago, and implore ALL to do so it's certainly getting traction now. www.conventionofstates.com
If you meant you observed nothing was done, say “nothing is done” about it. Don’t say moot.
lets just agree to write what we wish when we wish. The 1st amendment is a beautiful thing
Absolutely on what you mention about DeSantis! Who else has remotely come close to taking the stands he has on the right? Would like to see the checkbook on Hutchinson and the stocks he owns
Senator Ron Johnson has been great too.
God bless Ron Johnson -- I believe he was the first person in Congress -- and remains perhaps the only person in Congress? -- to step up decently and fearlessly to bring attention to the subject of Covid vaccine harms, and he continues to promote public awareness of the damage done by vaccine mandates and to pursue justice for victims. He spearheaded the December 2020 hearing in which Pierre Kory gave his groundbreaking, impassioned defense of early treatment with ivermectin. The man is truly a hero.
Yes RJ is solid for exposing what he does. Just seems like he is always handcuffed as a senator. RD can DO things as a Gov
South Dakota's Kristi Noem has been getting heat for not going along with mandates.
Maybe she is an outlier also.
yes she is in that small group similar to RD. I was gonna mention her as a similar, but not on Ron's level in terms of totality of what he has done and plans to do
One problem was she at first didn't immediately speak out against transgenders in sports. She did not forcefully say boys could not compete in girl's sports. She changed her tune but the damage had been done. IMO.
More than just not speaking out. Gov. Noem vetoed the legislation that would have barred males from girl's sports. I like Gov. Noem but she failed us on this one.
right...she got herself into a not so common (for her) quagmire so to speak didn't she. That scenario left a mark on her, but all in all she is stout and formidable
Yes, perhaps the most galling aspect of all of this is the fact that few folks in authority even want to review the data and to do any kind of long term study of these vaccines. VAERS was set up to be a sort of red flag for problems. Now? It seems like all we hear from officialdom is that VAERS signals mean nothing.
And they are doing (or failing to do) all of this right in front of us.
It's BEYOND OUTRAGEOUS.
Kim G
Boston, MA
Asa probably going to run for President. WalMart won’t put him on their Board which is what he really wants. Asa is a total piece of shit. As worthless as teats on a boar hog.
He is Arkansas' governor, not Alabama...thankfully.
Yeah, but she's not so great herself...
Why is it wrong to ask the vax status of a publicly vocal vax advocate who dies suddenly & unexpectedly, but right for that same vax advocate to demand my vax status to get a hamburger?
...or to keep a job, access businesses, or have any freedom of movement
....or to enter the U.S. legally while those crossing into the country illegally on our Southern border are not even tested for Covid.
Why are we giving shots to people who already had the disease?
Better question: why choose to get it if previously infected?
My two friends had Covid, then got the shots, then the boosters. One has a PhD, the other has two masters. Their eminent doctor advised them. What is wrong with these people? I am getting a lot less sympathetic with the doctors (zero sympathy for their cowardice at this point) and with our compliant, unquestioning citizens. Wake the f up already!
I was redpilled 25 years ago when my two younger sons were diagnosed with autism and my oldest with ADHD. I did some research on my own and discovered the completely corrupt medical authorities were covering up the connection between vaccinations and these disorders (which they continue to do to this day). They are never going to come clean on these mRNA shots either without a total change in the system that has allowed Big Pharma to control the entire medical care system.
So glad you mentioned because so many newly red pilled have surfaced since the wuh-flu scamdemic was launched relating to just how corrupt the process is with injections. The silver lining hopefully is many many more minds now KNOW this reality, but for many of us this is nothing new as you say you experienced long ago as well. Judy Mikovits in her books and one in particular called the plague of corruption goes into the history of injections and just what nuances occurred in the so called "safe and effective" pursuit to help mankind. Talk about scary...
intelligence doth not the doctor make!
As a retired RN, I have lost any faith I had left in the medical system!
One thing to understand is that these Drs are no longer Marcus Welby MD....they are owned as in employees! It's called corporatized medicine...hospitals are owned as are medical and dental practices. It has ushered in the era of "treatment by protocols" and rising stock prices!
Not all protocols are bad but most Drs do no critical thinking re the individual they are treating and simply follow the protocols! it was the NIH driven protocol that killed so many in the hospitals....ventilate and treat w Remdesivir which brings on pulmonary edema and kidney failure!!
Many Drs recognized the protocol failure early on and were marginalized. And of course Ivermectin has to be marginalized; no money in that! Riddle me this: how did an entire province in India defeat Covid w ivermectin? How about Africa where it is commonly used for malaria prevention? Did you hear about massive outbreaks in Africa?
There is so much harm that was done and should be considered massive genocide! WHO and CDC says nothing and we know why! They are funded by big pharma and Bill Gates Foundation. The people at the top are of the devil himself!!
Always appreciate hearing from the front lines in terms of speaking reality! It's this reality which makes it more astonishing and surreal to think 3 years in not ONE person responsible for all that has occurred ( and intentionally) to humanity has been remotely held to account. Think of the # of allowed deaths and maiming to occur not to mention the lost livelihoods etc. Not ONE in the entire world has been truly held accountable. What word in the dictionary can describe this other than DISGRACE?
Interesting!
Most who do choose either have no critical thought or trust their doctor too freely. Not sure any of you watched the excellent albeit redundant now interview on theepochtimes.com site last eve with Dr. McCullough and Dr. Malhotra of Britain, but both talked about the stupidity of having had natural immunity from the wuh-flu, yet getting injected again and again anyway. Far worse according to both these cardiologists doing so over getting injected having no exposure prior to said wuh-flu. The cumulative aspects of spike protein exposure is REAL
“ because you won’t get as sick.” 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Lol
It's frightening that some still believe that nonsense.
MOST people still believe that; and it's all the media says. What sources/studies are out there to dispute it...?
No critical thinking skills for many. Generations have been taught to question nothing when it should be “question everything”.
“The best person to look out for you is…yourself!” This sentence is a foreign concept to the majority of our population in my opinion.
Excellent point!
Correct. It is still a choice.
Because they can...no one is stopping it
Not only had it but was only five yo! What were parents thinking?
Probably educated idiots
Lemmings
Exactly this.
This alone is malpractice.
Personally, I think the number one "side effect" of Covid Vax ADVOCATES is to go into permanent attack mode toward those who don't believe they work or for whatever reason do not want them. The shot seems to attack the part of the mind that dictates, "MY body, MY choice" just as they exercised when they got vaxxed. The only vaxxed people who seem to understand that are the ones who were forced to take it in order to keep a job, or take a trip or go out to eat. They are not advocates, they are victims. The advocates revel in the power of mandates--and that power is the ultimate goal of government sponsored warfare on its own people. We retain the right to question ANYTHING. "Advocates" hold no monopoly on truth--and they prove it every time they refuse/belittle/punish questions on evidence to contrary.
What is lacking in the response from vaccine advocates is a factual explanation as to why an unexpected and unexplained death was or was not caused by vaccination. It seems to me that if you know what a vaccine caused death looks like, you would have a way of ruling out non-vaccine caused deaths (Such research in the case of Covid was unlikely given that the vaccine was rolled out in less than a year).
The fact that condemnation and outrage make frequent appearances in the response to people raising concerns about the role a vaccine may have played in a sudden and unexpected death is a strong indication of a conditioned response triggered by cognitive dissonance.
Died in a car crash 25 days after a positive test? 100% covid death.
Died 15 minutes after your booster? Eh, it could be anything.
Actually, the nature of the response from the establishment is "We don't know what it is, but we know that it wasn't caused by the injection." Funny how no one asks how anyone could know that. "Fear is the mind killer" (DUNE).
Exactly. If they admit they don't know what caused it, then they cannot rule out the injection in the same sentence--especially considering the CDC, Moderna and Pfizer have refused to acknowledge VAERS data on the jabs since they started.
How exactly are they able to rule it out?
I'd like to see the exhaustive list of reasons.
I suspect it would be a short list.
It probably consists of one sentence:
"Because I said so."
Well, that quit working for me at the age of 3.
And times like these are when I realize it's well worth the price I've paid to be an independent thinker.
I was thinking the exact same thing. You typed it a minute before I started.
Followed by "Now sit down and shut up!".
Government isn't quite so nice about it. They usually say "Fuck you, that's why."
Or as in my case three weeks after my second shot, I had classic symptoms of a blood clot and the #1 symptom of coronary distress in women ( jaw pain) and my doctor told me it was too far out from my shot to be the caused by the vaccine.....
Before this tragedy (Which is entering its third year) unfolded, I suspect that a doctor telling you that a treatment isn't causing your most recent problem would be kind of comforting. Now, I wonder if someone encountering the same assurances as you were given is now going to be thinking "But how does the doctor even know that?"
I have read that, prior to boosters, you weren't considered fully vaccinated until you were two weeks after the second dose (Or one dose of the J & J). So, how does one week after being fully vaccinated count as "too far out" to be a cause?
Exactly... but at 70 when you’re having a “ discussion” with a 45 year old female doctor, you ( the patient) get nervous pretty quickly about “ questioning “ your doctor’s logic... but I’ve said no to any boosters and even the current flu shot and she is now fine with that. My last visit in October she admitted one of her kids had a problem with the vaccine... she has three teenagers..
I think it is a sign of the times that, for many people, asking questions is the same as questioning someone's authority or logic. I can't help but wonder if there was something in your doctor's demeanor or affect that suggested you asking questions would be a problem. It is your doctor's job to address your concerns, not your job to address their concerns.
Nonetheless, it appears that reality intruded into your doctor's reality (which may have led to her becoming tolerant of your declining more vaccination).
Really. All this has caused me and many others to never take a doctors word again without checking for myself first.
Too bad critical thinking is no longer taught in schools.
I don’t believe there will ever be a binary answer to this question on vaccine caused deaths. What is worse is that those affected by mass psychosis formation will never ask to see much less acknowledge the evidence that these mRNA vaccines do not work to prevent infections nor decrease likelihood of death. And, they do have side effects which are ignored.
I think the Scientific Method offers a path through which we can discern more about the vaccine's externalities than what is currently known. However, because corporate forces are strongly discouraging such inquiries, we will not know the true nature and scope of those externalities for some time.
As for Mass Formation Psychosis, I suspect that describes a relatively small percentage of people. Booster uptake has not kept pace with the heavily coerced initial intake of the inoculations. I suspect that a growing number of people suspect that they have been sold a bill of goods, but out of concern for economic survival and social rejection, they are simply too afraid to face, or express, their own doubts.
Truth!
A friend of mine is a pediatric hospitalist here in Northern Virginia. She told me she watched an 8-year-old previously healthy child, admitted for flu, die of a brain aneurysm. I didn’t ask vax status, but most of the kids around here are vaxxed 3x or as many as possible. Tragedy.
I watched Dr. Gounder’s CBS interview last week. I saw hurt; but also honesty.
Her husband believed that football could change/unite the world. She has a platform to question his death. I believe she should. Even a “maybe” could be the step that starts an honest investigation. Maybe @celinegounder
I believe that at one time she was a member of the Biden COVID response team so like all the other good doctors who know better, she will not speak the truth. She has vehemently said that Grant’s death had nothing to do with COVID or the clot shot. Sadly, I think she doth protest too much.
She won't speak the truth, or even CONSIDER the vax as a cause, for multiple reasons. 1) absolute grief over her partner; 2) she doesn't want to imagine for a second that HER vax advocacy resulted in HIS pro-vax stance and death; 3) Money and power (she'd be shunned from medicine and the media); 4) Biden response team. Etc ...
In a former world (w/ respect, character, etc.), widows would disappear for 3 months of mourning, & ask for privacy. She has to go on TV w/in DAYS and yap about it. Suspicious on its face.
So, it’s more important to do what the government tells you than to question your husbands premature death???? And you’re a doctor???
She didn’t want to believe he was dead. That’s why it was important for her to see the body. All the world needs from her is a “maybe”.
I don’t have a lot of sympathy for doctors who beat the drum for these shots and now won’t even take a second look—that is not science, it’s a cult. Money, stupidity—who knows? Not too long ago she was encouraging pregnant women to get the shots when the safety data on that went from 1. Nonexistent 2. Threadbare and now, 3. Alarming!
I think it is very likely that Big Pharma has most of the medical profession trapped between obscene financial incentives and threats to end careers. Some in the profession will carry Big Pharma's water enthusiastically while others will do just enough to avoid losing their careers. It is disheartening to know that doctors can be lured out from their integrity, but it is hardly surprising.
Funniest thing I have read today.
Once you are in the cult you can never leave. Until everyone still standing in the breach understands that, no further progress will be made.
A much better take on the issue;
Karma can be a bitch.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/grant-wahl-cause-of-death-aortic-aneurysm-wife-dr-celine-gounder-interview/
"The boy had previously had a mild Covid infection, but the physicians believed the mRNA shot might have been responsible for the aneurysm and advised his parents to delay a second shot indefinitely."
NEVER before now have we ever advised vaccination AFTER the illness. I need look no further for evidence of malpractice and doctors who have abandoned any pretense of critical thought. That recommendation alone from the CDC should have raised alarm bells in all of modern medicine.
I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS.
Talked to the doctor next door. His many cardiologist contacts says their businesses are booming and they have never seen anything like it! "Has nothing to do with the vaccines" they contend! This is another canary in the coal mine!
Guys, it was a *mild* aneurysm! Nothing to see here. Would’ve been much worse without the shot, anyway.
I still hear people who are injected (multiple times) believe it would have been so much worse without the injection. These are healthy young people too with zero co morbidities. The psychosis is set so- deep. Surreal at times to witness for sure
The human mind is amazing in its ability to protect itself.
The "hilarious" place where we're at right now is a strange one where it seems like all the pro-vaxxers have their own "booster story" about how it knocked them on their asses for like three days -- yet they viciously attack anybody who suggests the jab can lead to adverse reactions.
Eric Hoffer looms large.
Wasn't sure who that was, but a quick search popped up this:
"We lie the loudest when we lie to ourselves."
Sounds about right.
“The enemy—the indispensible devil of every mass movement—is omnipresent. He plots both outside and inside the ranks of the faithful. It is his voice that speaks through the mouth of the dissenter, and the deviationists are his stooges. If anything goes wrong within the movement, it is his doing. It is the sacred duty of the true believer to be suspicious. He must be constantly on the lookout for saboteurs, spies and traitors.” - Hoffer
He’s a treasure trove of applicable quotes.
Which is why pre- Covid it took, on average, 10 years of research/studies before any new drug received FDA approval. Example: Propofol a fantastic anesthetic drug, which literally changed how anesthesia is given, required 13 years of research and studies before FDA approval. Short term and long term (years) effects of a drug are important.
Celebrex...it was FDA approved but as soon as intestinal bleeding was consistently reported in patients, they pulled it. Their failure to put the Vaccines on hold is frightening and bears investigation... but the FDA never researches why their initial research was faulty... thalidomide, DES, birth control pills , Hormone replacement therapy ( funny they stopped hawking those carcinogenic poisons)....
And let's not forget Vioxx and the Lyme vaccine. So much poison, so few seem to remember!!
Yup! I had Lyme in 1996.... when the vaccine came out, my doctor said, “ it’s crap. And don’t give it your dogs.” $$$$$
The FDA is wholly owned by big pharma! In fact, it is their retirement playground! Look it up
Apparently Pfizer, Moderna, and J & J each have a former FDA Commissioner on their board of directors.
I know... it’s the same for Congress... Canter, Boehner now lobbyists earning close to seven figures....FDA officials should not be sitting on Pharma Boards and visa versa.
These shots must stop!
The freakazoid globalists got their way. 1 billion people were vaccinated by an untested unproven mrna technology. The death rate is going up and fertility is going down. Just what they want. And no one with the power to hold them accountable.
I have two unrelated family members who had similar. One aortic aneurysm above the heart (repaired) in a healthy adult male. Another aortic aneurysm in lower abdomen (died of other issues; it did not rupture).
I’m thinking that perhaps the worst part of all this, whether in the US or Germany or England or, frankly, anywhere, that there is no ‘official’, organized attempt to learn more about these “unexplained deaths”. Is the deep state that intrusive and dominant that it has killed scientific inquiry?? Not good...
I am amazed at the medical profession's obsession with the phrase - 'safe and effective' - when in all reality very few doctors have read any of the studies (see Simone Gold's excellent Fox Nation talk with Tucker Carlson). Where is their accountability to their Hippocratic Oath? Where is their supposed natural scientific curiosity? When did we get to the point of just accepting what is said out of hand? The doctors of today seem to say - the vaccine didn't cause this or that - and they literally have NO IDEA as those words come out of their mouths. Folks, we as Americans have the ability to walk out of those appointments with doctors who are either, complicit or blind or stupid, enough to continue to wear masks (yes, I've been to a cardiologist with a paper diaper on his face) or push the jabs. I'm concerned with how qualified any doctor who continues to push these and especially any doctor who tells me that HCQ isn't a viable treatment for Covid. Maybe the cardiologist is excellent, but if he's willing to wear a paper diaper mask then he's clearly not making sense in at least one scientific matter. BTW, my wife shows up for a mammogram and the tech asks if she's any recent booster. Of course, my wife says she ain't had NADA: shot, booster, etc. The tech says that's okay, I'm only asking because we've seen quite a few ladies in here recently whose lymph nodes are swollen who've been boosted. Keep in mind, the tech didn't ever say - 'Please don't take the damn thing', but at least she was willing to say the quiet part out loud.
How easily we forget that there's a bell curve distribution of talent in any industry, including medicine.
The oft repeated phrase was “WP(weak pass) = MD”.
With the dumbing down of education standards to accomodate diversity, let's not forget it has also affected the medical profession!! We are no longer a meritocracy but rather have sacrificed at the altar of feel good diversity!