Hooray! Someone who gets it. Us card-carrying liberals are not socialists, we're not conservatives, republicans or democrats, we're not even exactly libertarians. We're staunch defenders of individual rights, and if that means voting for a Donald Trump or a Ralph Nader in order to "throw a human Molotov cocktail" into the middle of t…
Hooray! Someone who gets it. Us card-carrying liberals are not socialists, we're not conservatives, republicans or democrats, we're not even exactly libertarians. We're staunch defenders of individual rights, and if that means voting for a Donald Trump or a Ralph Nader in order to "throw a human Molotov cocktail" into the middle of the Washington DC elites who have been screwing us over for the last few decades, so be it!
“We're staunch defenders of individual rights,,,” Points up the key difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives certainly believe in individual natural rights (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness) but also believe any rights beyond these three come with significant individual RESPONSIBILITIES attached - responsibilities which you cannot assign to others. Medical care is not a right, for example, because as soon as you make it so, you make the person required to provide it into a slave. Many other examples exist.
Agreed! Social programs absolutely limit individual freedoms. They are compromises with risks and benefits. It's our responsibility to decide which ones are ultimately beneficial.
My point is social “programs” also limit individual responsibilities. (I don’t need to give it to charity… Government will do it). This effect is corrosive on humanity and eventually destroys society. Therefore, social programs need to be extremely limited.
People who rely on the government to replace their charitable giving are more than happy to vote to raise taxes on others to pay for it. When I point out that is not the same as giving yourself, it is virtue signaling with other people's money, they get angry.
The problem with being a card-carrying liberal is with that label you're in association with a corrupt president whose destructive policies are destroying our nation.
And the problem with being a conservative is that you're associated with the Cheneys, the Bushes, and the War on Terror. My friends revoked my liberal card because I admitted voting for Trump, so maybe those labels no longer apply.
Hooray! Someone who gets it. Us card-carrying liberals are not socialists, we're not conservatives, republicans or democrats, we're not even exactly libertarians. We're staunch defenders of individual rights, and if that means voting for a Donald Trump or a Ralph Nader in order to "throw a human Molotov cocktail" into the middle of the Washington DC elites who have been screwing us over for the last few decades, so be it!
“We're staunch defenders of individual rights,,,” Points up the key difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives certainly believe in individual natural rights (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness) but also believe any rights beyond these three come with significant individual RESPONSIBILITIES attached - responsibilities which you cannot assign to others. Medical care is not a right, for example, because as soon as you make it so, you make the person required to provide it into a slave. Many other examples exist.
Agreed! Social programs absolutely limit individual freedoms. They are compromises with risks and benefits. It's our responsibility to decide which ones are ultimately beneficial.
My point is social “programs” also limit individual responsibilities. (I don’t need to give it to charity… Government will do it). This effect is corrosive on humanity and eventually destroys society. Therefore, social programs need to be extremely limited.
The be honest I think we'd all be better off without most of them.
People who rely on the government to replace their charitable giving are more than happy to vote to raise taxes on others to pay for it. When I point out that is not the same as giving yourself, it is virtue signaling with other people's money, they get angry.
The problem with being a card-carrying liberal is with that label you're in association with a corrupt president whose destructive policies are destroying our nation.
And the problem with being a conservative is that you're associated with the Cheneys, the Bushes, and the War on Terror. My friends revoked my liberal card because I admitted voting for Trump, so maybe those labels no longer apply.
I'm afraid I can't accept your premise that those people are conservatives. They're merely never-Trumpers.
I call them neocons.
They professed to be conservatives. We now know they are progressives running as republicans.