But I don't consider myself qualified to know whether they are possible (say 20%+, which given their severity would be a huge risk), unlikely (5-20%), very unlikely (1-5%), or almost impossible (under 1%). These are incredibly complicated questions of virology and immunology, and they probably involve guesswork even for the best experts.
The real problem is that aside from Geert and a couple of other people who have been yelling about this all along, no one is even discussing it, much less trying to quantify it, much less doing any kind of work necessary to define the risks. This needs to happen NOW.
Geert is recommending to stop all vaccinations including boosters. Move quickly to distributing anti-virals. He compares this wave to the Spanish Flu without vaccination intervention, the virus went to a baseline of zero infections within 2 years. We can never get to a zero baseline of infections with non sterilizing vaccines.
Geert believes his cross-science expertise has put the key pieces together but he thinks the other side isn't engaging out of pure arrogance in any discussion about those concerns as the "Horse has already left the barn." He bluntly says they will not admit they were wrong and we all know this to be true.
Once they decided to introduce an experimental "vax" into a pandemic population, they opened up the pathway for further unknowns with new immune pressure outcomes. Worse, Geert is anticipating that immune pressure enhanced by the needless and foolish vaxing of kids and youth will only further increase immune pressure leading to a mutation which will not be stopped by any aspect of the existing vax and worse, leaving those who took the jab(s) helpless against the onset of disease and death. It's the apocalypse sci-fi movie scenario come to life.
We're already seeing indicators with reports of the highly jabbed repeatedly catching the ChiCom virus. Does it sustain and ease or get worse? As your resident Horse, I am not qualified to conclude either but I fear Geert has ample reason for concern.
I'm having lunch tomorrow with a nurse who works in magnetic imaging. She's a vaxxer but I hope to press her a bit on what she's seeing in her dept. She told me a couple months ago that her dept. was swamped with kids.
I'm listening to his interview on The Highwire ATM. it has been amazing so far and very interesting. My concern, however, is that his talk will get our side back on the fear train. And fear spreads easily.
So I think there are reasons for concern and the authorities need to be honest about them. But they won't.
I like to act rather than be fearful. So I'm out topping up my vitamin D levels every chance I get even on days that aren't too hot. I hope other people here are doing this. Make the most of this summer because we are going to need it. Humanity has just been turned into a Petridish and we have no idea what will come of it.
We're gonna need strong immune systems. And isn't that a better message for public health? "Don't be afraid! Get out in the sun!"
You can also take D3 if you can’t do sun. I increased my intake to 10k units per day, including recommended vitamin K. Blood test shows my D at 74 ng/ml.
I just don't understand how I can cook dinner, sew KKK hoods, homeschool, go to secret yoga QAnon meetings AND now make my own baby formula on top of it. Being a right-wing extremist under the guise of "motherhood" is tough.
In Vermont, the median age is five more years than in the rest of the United States. Age 65 and older are twice as likely to be vaccinated. Age 65 and over are five times more likely to be hospitalized. This explains why the vaccinated are more likely to be hospitalized than the unvaccinated!
I think the Sackler family from Purdue Pharma refer to this as Breakthrough-Covid. Up your boosters to weekly, we have politicians to fund in the upcoming congressional hearing and midterms.
Several of my co-workers, double vaxxed and double boosted, have COVID now. Meanwhile I’m unvaxxed and therefore unable to enter company buildings, and I haven’t been sick once.
"So what comes next?" Alex, if Geert Vanden Bossche sees his biggest concerns follow, "a series of new highly virulent and highly infectious SARS-CoV-2 (SC-2) variants will now rapidly and independently emerge in highly vaccinated countries all over the world and that they will soon spread at high pace. I expect the current pattern of repetitive infections and relatively mild disease in vaccinees to soon aggravate and be replaced by severe disease and death."
I do think the unvaccinated who are recovered from prior infections will have the ability to fight new variants. The immunity is for the entire virus and natural immunity provides antibodies that are re-activated in the nasal mucosa upon discovery of the virus again. This first line of defense is critical. The vaccinated have ZERO, I'll say it again, ZERO antibodies in the nose - only the blood and perhaps only to one protein. So it is very, very easy for an infection to take-hold.
Amen to that. I’ve been using my Netipot everytime I go out in public. I was around a group of people that all got deathly sick and I was ok. I felt a little off for a couple of days but that was it
There is pretty good data on the use of Azelastine nasal spray which is not only an antihistamine but also is an IL-6 and TNF inhibitor intranasally .But regardless, a previously infected unvaccinated individual unlike the vaccinated has intranasal IgA antibodies and background memory T cell function .
seems like the less severe strains stay dominant most of the time because the mutations that make a disease more dangerous kill or incapacitate the host & don't get passed on as easily
We forgot very early on this process that viruses, like all biological matter, operate on a fight or flight basis. Those with the strongest flight response survive and spread and thrive and those that fight kill their hosts die off. That is why coronaviruses have been circling since before humans and will long outlive us, because they are simple and easy viruses that are VERY rarely even moderately dangerous, so the mild versions mutate and circulate, again, as they have for hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of years ... But that's no reason we shouldn't shut the whole world down and force mRNA into everyone's arms
yeah, this geert guy's quote below just doesn't seem likely to me, but then again i never thought in a million years that i would pay more heed to joe rogan & russell brand than the fda & cdc, so who knows
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"I expect the current pattern of repetitive infections and relatively mild disease in vaccinees to soon aggravate and be replaced by severe disease and death."
There's no evidence to support that statement. At "Butthedatasays" we like to be fact based, and there's no evidence to support a new mutation of the CoV family of viruses, of which there have been millions, if not billions, that all of a sudden both causes "severe disease and death" AND has a high R value. Will these CoV viruses mutate because of vaccines? yes, that's very likely. They mutate because of basically every interaction they have, so why not vaccines (which is exactly why we can't vaccinate against them in the first place)? But all of a sudden drastically change in terms of IFR AND R, that's basically a statistical impossibility. Again, viruses can fight or they can flight - if someone manufactures one in a lab that can do both, that would be truly scary and spectacular, but it's highly unlikely to be on a CoV base.
“Dr. Bossche makes a number of incorrect or exaggerated claims about the use of mass vaccination during a pandemic and urges international health authorities to stop the current crop of COVID-19 vaccines or else risk unleashing “a global catastrophe without equal.” This is scary stuff, but it’s all quite misguided.”
This was published over a year ago when it was not common knowledge that the vaccines don’t prevent infection/transmission and the anti bodies wane after 4 months. Nothing Offit says to counteract Geert has come true and everything Geert has said has.
I’m not saying I”m totally on board with his theory either, but immune escape is a real thing as is original antigenic sin with viruses. At the very least ur public health officials should be desperately looking in to this. They are not of course, so here we are.
Dr. Vanden Bossche makes theoretical claims: without the scientific data to back them up. He has not published his concerns in scientific literature to be peer-reviewed but instead has taken to social media to air his concerns; one must ask why that is? If people simply believe him because their anti-vaccine, they do a disservice to Themselves and others.
Science is all about making theoretical claims - he doesn't have to back them up as we already have elucidated that viruses mutate sometimes/for the most part due to environmental pressures.
That GVB is implying that a more dangerous mutation is more likely at this point is more challenging, but given his experience and the way that our regulatory bodies either have their heads in the sand or up Pfizers arse I am extremely concerned that no one else is going to look at it in depth.
Are we going to leave it just to chance? Especially as it seems now that they cannot easily create new mRNA for new variants at any speed after all.
The most monstrous health disaster in the history of the world. All of those responsible seem to be oblivious that this is going to end with their heads on pikes. Incredible that a good number of those who have permanently compromised their ability to fight off an ever-mutating virus still believe a paper mask will help them.
Oblivious and or concerned? They knew exactly what they intended to do and executed it and still are. The real issue is not ONE of them has remotely been held accountable almost 29 months in. Not ONE! Why does ANYone rationally believe this ends with the very same people responsible in the very same positions and if they leave they "choose" who replaces them. Someone tell me the definition of insanity again?
Yes my wife (avid mt Biker snowboarder) who has been boosted has been sick for almost 10 days now…me never vaxed feel great…however our daycare which was shut down due to covid last week just brought back the mask mandate..when I went to pick up my girls today they were wearing them outside!!! People have lost there minds!!! It was 80° it’s child abuse in my mind
Absolutely, a disaster. How can we get some real "public health officials" who are on the right side of health and not simply looking to get more profits for pharma and themselves........
When do we quit getting worried about infections? And how much more likely are serious complications at this point than just plain old regular flu seasons? 53,000 hospitalizations is kind of... normal, isn't?
Society is now acting like it's unusual for people to catch cold and get sick. In other words, except for dead of winter flu season testing, we've never before kept track of every single respiratory infection.
Kind of feels like we are starting to panic for it's own sake and treat mundane illnesses as something more serious than it really is.
I worked today in the yard & flower beds. I raked. I pulled weeds. I transplanted daylilies. I put the birdbath outside near a lilac that's starting to bloom.
I came into the house and sneezed. Sneezed. SNEEZED. SNEEZED!
Do I have covid? Nope! I have a nose full of pollen because it's SPRING.
I know people who have these same experiences and RUN for a home covid test.
I had a cold last month, Covid this month. Personally i think the fatigue made it worse than a cold. Just my experience. If yours was like a cold, good on you.
It reminded me of the fatigue I had when I had glandular fever. But it was done in 10 days - tackled it the same way by amping up my vit B complex and healthy diet.
I had what I thought was flu in late February 2020 after a trip to NYC. I felt pretty bad for about a week and then got better. No illness since then. And no vax. Took my chances with Mother Nature. Spouse went for the vax, and fortunately seems to be fine.
You are like a God ;) Not any illness at all in over 2 years :) Probably helped all this social distancing and masking I suppose. But I've had three colds in that time span. And now the Big Bad, Covid.
Well if I wanted to go for a trip to NYC, which I AM in September, I'd be shit out of luck if I was you, (foreigner so no vax, no go pal - me.) And who knows when that will change?
I don’t credit masks or social distancing. It’s my normal. I only get sick every couple of years. I’ve definitely been sicker than I was last time. What I was originally referring to was the big deal I’ve heard people make over cold and flu like illnesses, like they’re really in danger. Getting a cold or flu would have been utterly unremarkable prior to 2020. I don’t doubt covid is dangerous for some, but lots of people who don’t need to be seem really afraid. There was an appalling lack of communication about how low the risk is for most imo. A nasty flu is not fun, but it is pretty normal.
Sure, although tell that to the 50 mill from the Spanish flu. Or the oldies from Covid.
But its death rate that always scares me. So the Black Death has always been the standard bearer for me for being scared by.
Yes, that is true. This whole thing has been kind of nuts. What on earth would the world have done if Covid had had the death rate of the Plague? God help us all if that ever happened.
You need to read what being discussed here in the context of the out-of-season numbers increasing in Vermont and elsewhere and Antibody-dependent Enhancement (ADE).
It's happening right now and warned by Geert Vanden Bossche.
This is what Geert has been warning about, the vaccinated do not have neutralizing antibodies and if Covid now becomes more pathogenic.... Anecdotally, I have a friend who after being boosted, currently has her second Covid infection in the past 90 days and she is much much sicker this time (this should not happen if she has some level of natural immunity). She's early 50s and not obese. Our schools (in CT) have taken to reporting infections daily again because cases are surging but the mask wearing does not seem to be coming back.
I think the Winter respiratory virus season in the Northern Hemisphere will be most telling. I certainly hope we do not see antibody dependent enhancement and/or suppressed immune systems in those who have been boosted. Geert- I wish they would've listened.
It is too easy to write off right now since the same people ending up in the hospital after vaccination are likely the ones that would've been at some level of risk prior. If we see otherwise healthy, younger, fitter adults and even children landing in the hospital- ADE will be crystal clear.
Vermont continues to have elevated excess deaths. Their all cause mortality difference is much higher than their official Covid deaths counts.
In 2021 they were up 17% in all-cause mortality above baseline (34th in the country), majority of it in the second half of the year after fully vaccinated. While they average 108 deaths/week, that jumped to 135/week weeks 26-52 of 2021. For the first 12 weeks of 2022 (all we have data on reliably for now) they continue at 137/week. This is 20% above normal.
Here is image of deaths per week for vermont, clipped to only see 27 weeks due to size, but the average and totals at the top reflect full year. For the average of 2022 I only used the first 12 weeks (even these are incomplete, but close enough we can get useful insight). https://imgur.com/a/Lq7RyCP
For more detail see this dump into google sheets where I put the source data and pasted some quick views as different tabs:
*Notes/Sources: Quick overview of where I pull the data and caution on how to use it
*Vermont Deaths Per Week: All cause mortality in Vermont by week for 2014-2022.
*2019-2021 All Cause Mortality by State: compares The average of 2020 and 2021 to 2019 as a baseline, then just 2021 to 2019 (2019 serves as a good placeholder of what we would have expected deaths to be like)
*First 12 Weeks: Total deaths of the first 12 weeks of each year back to 2014. Some states report later than others so this is tentative.
*Update Compare 2021: This shows in columns each snapshot I have taken from the CDC (this is filtered only to the US) so you can understand how much the data lags.
*Source Data as of 5.4.22: export of the two sources i pull from the CDC you can copy and turn into pivot tables to play around with if you want
Alex, Geert Vanden Bossche has figured out what’s happening and is sounding the alarm that our pandemic response needs to switch to antivirals or it’s game over. Interestingly Albert Bourla tweeted yesterday that his wife has COVID and is taking Paxlovid. The new celebrity refrain is, “so thankful I’m vaxxed/boosted AND taking my COVID pills.” I think they know. Please take in Geert’s analysis/interview on the HighWire if at all possible. Here’s the link: https://thehighwire.com/videos/the-vanden-bossche-warning/
I expect the commie Vermont health authorities will replicate the UK and some other countries that are horrified by what’s happening. They’ll just stop differentiating between jabbed and unjabbed. This way there little boot licking minions will just line up for there next booster, like good the little commie citizens they are. These graphs will be sent to the ministry of disinformation to then be scrubbed and republished to fit there liking.
PRECISELY as Geert Vanden Bossche in Belgium has predicted all along- he is the man to listen to. He is worried we are only 1-2 months away from a deadly variant that will hit the vaccinated almost entirely. The virus should be back to baseline now if we’d left well enough alone- there is no chance now of ever getting back to baseline without massive loss of life. Only the healthy unvaccinated have a chance of escaping because their immune systems are still intact. Thank you Fauci/Gates/et al for vaccinating during the heat of a pandemic, a big no-no. All vaccinated people he says should get on a prophylactic regimen of hydroxy, ivermectin, or other antivirals ASAP and stay on it indefinitely.
I think these risks are real.
But I don't consider myself qualified to know whether they are possible (say 20%+, which given their severity would be a huge risk), unlikely (5-20%), very unlikely (1-5%), or almost impossible (under 1%). These are incredibly complicated questions of virology and immunology, and they probably involve guesswork even for the best experts.
The real problem is that aside from Geert and a couple of other people who have been yelling about this all along, no one is even discussing it, much less trying to quantify it, much less doing any kind of work necessary to define the risks. This needs to happen NOW.
Geert is recommending to stop all vaccinations including boosters. Move quickly to distributing anti-virals. He compares this wave to the Spanish Flu without vaccination intervention, the virus went to a baseline of zero infections within 2 years. We can never get to a zero baseline of infections with non sterilizing vaccines.
Geert believes his cross-science expertise has put the key pieces together but he thinks the other side isn't engaging out of pure arrogance in any discussion about those concerns as the "Horse has already left the barn." He bluntly says they will not admit they were wrong and we all know this to be true.
Once they decided to introduce an experimental "vax" into a pandemic population, they opened up the pathway for further unknowns with new immune pressure outcomes. Worse, Geert is anticipating that immune pressure enhanced by the needless and foolish vaxing of kids and youth will only further increase immune pressure leading to a mutation which will not be stopped by any aspect of the existing vax and worse, leaving those who took the jab(s) helpless against the onset of disease and death. It's the apocalypse sci-fi movie scenario come to life.
We're already seeing indicators with reports of the highly jabbed repeatedly catching the ChiCom virus. Does it sustain and ease or get worse? As your resident Horse, I am not qualified to conclude either but I fear Geert has ample reason for concern.
I'm having lunch tomorrow with a nurse who works in magnetic imaging. She's a vaxxer but I hope to press her a bit on what she's seeing in her dept. She told me a couple months ago that her dept. was swamped with kids.
Would love to know! I hope she tells you.
I'm listening to his interview on The Highwire ATM. it has been amazing so far and very interesting. My concern, however, is that his talk will get our side back on the fear train. And fear spreads easily.
So I think there are reasons for concern and the authorities need to be honest about them. But they won't.
I like to act rather than be fearful. So I'm out topping up my vitamin D levels every chance I get even on days that aren't too hot. I hope other people here are doing this. Make the most of this summer because we are going to need it. Humanity has just been turned into a Petridish and we have no idea what will come of it.
We're gonna need strong immune systems. And isn't that a better message for public health? "Don't be afraid! Get out in the sun!"
You can also take D3 if you can’t do sun. I increased my intake to 10k units per day, including recommended vitamin K. Blood test shows my D at 74 ng/ml.
Joe Biden had a meeting with the cabinet today.
He also spoke to the bookshelf and argued with the desk.
Thanks, I needed that!
I just don't understand how I can cook dinner, sew KKK hoods, homeschool, go to secret yoga QAnon meetings AND now make my own baby formula on top of it. Being a right-wing extremist under the guise of "motherhood" is tough.
And just like that, Vermont has now decided to hide it's covid data from residents and visitors as of May 18th.
Give Geert’s interview with Del Bigtree a watch A:ex if you haven’t already. He breaks everything down pretty well. I’d love your feedback on it.
Whoops, here’s the link, https://thehighwire.com/
In Vermont, the median age is five more years than in the rest of the United States. Age 65 and older are twice as likely to be vaccinated. Age 65 and over are five times more likely to be hospitalized. This explains why the vaccinated are more likely to be hospitalized than the unvaccinated!
Alex your work is great. I sincerely appreciate it.
Exactly - Its the elephant in the room. And no one is talking about it.
Look at El Gato Malo's dissection of the Pfizer Docs. I really think you're missing something here.
Some good stuff there. Part 1: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-we-pfinding-pfizer-pfraud-part
Part 2: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-we-pfinding-pfizer-pfraud-part-fa2?s=r
I think the Sackler family from Purdue Pharma refer to this as Breakthrough-Covid. Up your boosters to weekly, we have politicians to fund in the upcoming congressional hearing and midterms.
This should be required reading...for Alex...
Several of my co-workers, double vaxxed and double boosted, have COVID now. Meanwhile I’m unvaxxed and therefore unable to enter company buildings, and I haven’t been sick once.
"So what comes next?" Alex, if Geert Vanden Bossche sees his biggest concerns follow, "a series of new highly virulent and highly infectious SARS-CoV-2 (SC-2) variants will now rapidly and independently emerge in highly vaccinated countries all over the world and that they will soon spread at high pace. I expect the current pattern of repetitive infections and relatively mild disease in vaccinees to soon aggravate and be replaced by severe disease and death."
It's a serious potential.
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/predictions-gvb-on-evolution-c-19-pandemic
I do think the unvaccinated who are recovered from prior infections will have the ability to fight new variants. The immunity is for the entire virus and natural immunity provides antibodies that are re-activated in the nasal mucosa upon discovery of the virus again. This first line of defense is critical. The vaccinated have ZERO, I'll say it again, ZERO antibodies in the nose - only the blood and perhaps only to one protein. So it is very, very easy for an infection to take-hold.
Nasal washes to the rescue then! We'll all be walking around with our neti pots in backpacks and purses. Good times
Amen to that. I’ve been using my Netipot everytime I go out in public. I was around a group of people that all got deathly sick and I was ok. I felt a little off for a couple of days but that was it
There is pretty good data on the use of Azelastine nasal spray which is not only an antihistamine but also is an IL-6 and TNF inhibitor intranasally .But regardless, a previously infected unvaccinated individual unlike the vaccinated has intranasal IgA antibodies and background memory T cell function .
Don’t forget the tissues! That salt water will drain out at the most inopportune moments.😂
Truth! Be careful bending over to pick stuff up!!
That must have been what happened to Amber Turd.
Thanks for sharing this. I am afraid he is correct as to what comes next.
The latest from ICAN on the variants:
https://www.icandecide.org/ican_press/cdc-has-no-records-to-support-claim-that-covid-vaccines-do-not-cause-variants/
seems like the less severe strains stay dominant most of the time because the mutations that make a disease more dangerous kill or incapacitate the host & don't get passed on as easily
We forgot very early on this process that viruses, like all biological matter, operate on a fight or flight basis. Those with the strongest flight response survive and spread and thrive and those that fight kill their hosts die off. That is why coronaviruses have been circling since before humans and will long outlive us, because they are simple and easy viruses that are VERY rarely even moderately dangerous, so the mild versions mutate and circulate, again, as they have for hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of years ... But that's no reason we shouldn't shut the whole world down and force mRNA into everyone's arms
yeah, this geert guy's quote below just doesn't seem likely to me, but then again i never thought in a million years that i would pay more heed to joe rogan & russell brand than the fda & cdc, so who knows
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"I expect the current pattern of repetitive infections and relatively mild disease in vaccinees to soon aggravate and be replaced by severe disease and death."
There's no evidence to support that statement. At "Butthedatasays" we like to be fact based, and there's no evidence to support a new mutation of the CoV family of viruses, of which there have been millions, if not billions, that all of a sudden both causes "severe disease and death" AND has a high R value. Will these CoV viruses mutate because of vaccines? yes, that's very likely. They mutate because of basically every interaction they have, so why not vaccines (which is exactly why we can't vaccinate against them in the first place)? But all of a sudden drastically change in terms of IFR AND R, that's basically a statistical impossibility. Again, viruses can fight or they can flight - if someone manufactures one in a lab that can do both, that would be truly scary and spectacular, but it's highly unlikely to be on a CoV base.
Although there weren't a lot of computer viruses before Bill Gates introduced Windows, so I guess if anyone could do it, it would be him
That was very witty and made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that.
“Dr. Bossche makes a number of incorrect or exaggerated claims about the use of mass vaccination during a pandemic and urges international health authorities to stop the current crop of COVID-19 vaccines or else risk unleashing “a global catastrophe without equal.” This is scary stuff, but it’s all quite misguided.”
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche
This was published over a year ago when it was not common knowledge that the vaccines don’t prevent infection/transmission and the anti bodies wane after 4 months. Nothing Offit says to counteract Geert has come true and everything Geert has said has.
I’m not saying I”m totally on board with his theory either, but immune escape is a real thing as is original antigenic sin with viruses. At the very least ur public health officials should be desperately looking in to this. They are not of course, so here we are.
Dr. Vanden Bossche makes theoretical claims: without the scientific data to back them up. He has not published his concerns in scientific literature to be peer-reviewed but instead has taken to social media to air his concerns; one must ask why that is? If people simply believe him because their anti-vaccine, they do a disservice to Themselves and others.
Science is all about making theoretical claims - he doesn't have to back them up as we already have elucidated that viruses mutate sometimes/for the most part due to environmental pressures.
That GVB is implying that a more dangerous mutation is more likely at this point is more challenging, but given his experience and the way that our regulatory bodies either have their heads in the sand or up Pfizers arse I am extremely concerned that no one else is going to look at it in depth.
Are we going to leave it just to chance? Especially as it seems now that they cannot easily create new mRNA for new variants at any speed after all.
The most monstrous health disaster in the history of the world. All of those responsible seem to be oblivious that this is going to end with their heads on pikes. Incredible that a good number of those who have permanently compromised their ability to fight off an ever-mutating virus still believe a paper mask will help them.
Oblivious and or concerned? They knew exactly what they intended to do and executed it and still are. The real issue is not ONE of them has remotely been held accountable almost 29 months in. Not ONE! Why does ANYone rationally believe this ends with the very same people responsible in the very same positions and if they leave they "choose" who replaces them. Someone tell me the definition of insanity again?
Vermonter here!!
Yes my wife (avid mt Biker snowboarder) who has been boosted has been sick for almost 10 days now…me never vaxed feel great…however our daycare which was shut down due to covid last week just brought back the mask mandate..when I went to pick up my girls today they were wearing them outside!!! People have lost there minds!!! It was 80° it’s child abuse in my mind
Outside mask wearing is just ridiculous double ridiculous for the youngins.
Pull them out. If you keep leaving your kids there YOU are the abuser.
Mask-a-mania seems to be everywhere, especially in the most vaccinated areas. Sad it's still going on.
https://www.westernstandard.news/features/study-finds-plastics-found-in-masks-present-in-patients-lungs/article_056590f2-0615-5bc9-aab0-730e7704634e.html
Masks particles in lungs could actually turn out to be as big a disaster as the vaccines. Interesting that we don’t hear more about this.
Absolutely, a disaster. How can we get some real "public health officials" who are on the right side of health and not simply looking to get more profits for pharma and themselves........
When do we quit getting worried about infections? And how much more likely are serious complications at this point than just plain old regular flu seasons? 53,000 hospitalizations is kind of... normal, isn't?
Society is now acting like it's unusual for people to catch cold and get sick. In other words, except for dead of winter flu season testing, we've never before kept track of every single respiratory infection.
Kind of feels like we are starting to panic for it's own sake and treat mundane illnesses as something more serious than it really is.
I worked today in the yard & flower beds. I raked. I pulled weeds. I transplanted daylilies. I put the birdbath outside near a lilac that's starting to bloom.
I came into the house and sneezed. Sneezed. SNEEZED. SNEEZED!
Do I have covid? Nope! I have a nose full of pollen because it's SPRING.
I know people who have these same experiences and RUN for a home covid test.
Yes! It’s completely crazy. People are now conditioned to panic over the equivalent of a cold
I had a cold last month, Covid this month. Personally i think the fatigue made it worse than a cold. Just my experience. If yours was like a cold, good on you.
You HAVE had it right?
The lingering extreme fatigue was the most striking symptom. Never experienced anything like it.
It reminded me of the fatigue I had when I had glandular fever. But it was done in 10 days - tackled it the same way by amping up my vit B complex and healthy diet.
I had what I thought was flu in late February 2020 after a trip to NYC. I felt pretty bad for about a week and then got better. No illness since then. And no vax. Took my chances with Mother Nature. Spouse went for the vax, and fortunately seems to be fine.
You are like a God ;) Not any illness at all in over 2 years :) Probably helped all this social distancing and masking I suppose. But I've had three colds in that time span. And now the Big Bad, Covid.
Well if I wanted to go for a trip to NYC, which I AM in September, I'd be shit out of luck if I was you, (foreigner so no vax, no go pal - me.) And who knows when that will change?
I don’t credit masks or social distancing. It’s my normal. I only get sick every couple of years. I’ve definitely been sicker than I was last time. What I was originally referring to was the big deal I’ve heard people make over cold and flu like illnesses, like they’re really in danger. Getting a cold or flu would have been utterly unremarkable prior to 2020. I don’t doubt covid is dangerous for some, but lots of people who don’t need to be seem really afraid. There was an appalling lack of communication about how low the risk is for most imo. A nasty flu is not fun, but it is pretty normal.
Sure, although tell that to the 50 mill from the Spanish flu. Or the oldies from Covid.
But its death rate that always scares me. So the Black Death has always been the standard bearer for me for being scared by.
Yes, that is true. This whole thing has been kind of nuts. What on earth would the world have done if Covid had had the death rate of the Plague? God help us all if that ever happened.
You need to read what being discussed here in the context of the out-of-season numbers increasing in Vermont and elsewhere and Antibody-dependent Enhancement (ADE).
It's happening right now and warned by Geert Vanden Bossche.
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/predictions-gvb-on-evolution-c-19-pandemic
This is what Geert has been warning about, the vaccinated do not have neutralizing antibodies and if Covid now becomes more pathogenic.... Anecdotally, I have a friend who after being boosted, currently has her second Covid infection in the past 90 days and she is much much sicker this time (this should not happen if she has some level of natural immunity). She's early 50s and not obese. Our schools (in CT) have taken to reporting infections daily again because cases are surging but the mask wearing does not seem to be coming back.
MASKS DO NOT WORK!!!!!!
Rumor has it that Stephen Colbert (Vax’d and boosted) also has Covid for the second time in the past month or two.
Karma is a bitch.
Probably paxlovid rebound. Thanks again, pHARMa!
This is what happens with ADE.
I think the Winter respiratory virus season in the Northern Hemisphere will be most telling. I certainly hope we do not see antibody dependent enhancement and/or suppressed immune systems in those who have been boosted. Geert- I wish they would've listened.
We have been seeing it. Sure it could get even worse
It is too easy to write off right now since the same people ending up in the hospital after vaccination are likely the ones that would've been at some level of risk prior. If we see otherwise healthy, younger, fitter adults and even children landing in the hospital- ADE will be crystal clear.
We’ll have to keep our eyes on Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Chile, Argentina. They’re going into winter.
Alex, There is much in the Pfizer docs you are ignoring. It is shaping like Surgisphere Redux, perhaps...https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1524101689535565825
Glad i didn't comply
Vermont continues to have elevated excess deaths. Their all cause mortality difference is much higher than their official Covid deaths counts.
In 2021 they were up 17% in all-cause mortality above baseline (34th in the country), majority of it in the second half of the year after fully vaccinated. While they average 108 deaths/week, that jumped to 135/week weeks 26-52 of 2021. For the first 12 weeks of 2022 (all we have data on reliably for now) they continue at 137/week. This is 20% above normal.
By comparison South Dakota is at 11% IIRC.
Incredible. Do you have a chart you can share?
Here is image of deaths per week for vermont, clipped to only see 27 weeks due to size, but the average and totals at the top reflect full year. For the average of 2022 I only used the first 12 weeks (even these are incomplete, but close enough we can get useful insight). https://imgur.com/a/Lq7RyCP
For more detail see this dump into google sheets where I put the source data and pasted some quick views as different tabs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lEOZTqVbCOQZE3Afygtr85YPlLYZfNCQLOdFoL3kC84/edit?usp=sharing
Tabs:
*Notes/Sources: Quick overview of where I pull the data and caution on how to use it
*Vermont Deaths Per Week: All cause mortality in Vermont by week for 2014-2022.
*2019-2021 All Cause Mortality by State: compares The average of 2020 and 2021 to 2019 as a baseline, then just 2021 to 2019 (2019 serves as a good placeholder of what we would have expected deaths to be like)
*First 12 Weeks: Total deaths of the first 12 weeks of each year back to 2014. Some states report later than others so this is tentative.
*Update Compare 2021: This shows in columns each snapshot I have taken from the CDC (this is filtered only to the US) so you can understand how much the data lags.
*Source Data as of 5.4.22: export of the two sources i pull from the CDC you can copy and turn into pivot tables to play around with if you want
Michael - do you mind emailing me all this?
Alex I'll send a detailed email in a bit. Will be from my primary gmail <redacted>.com to your substack email in case goes to spam/redirected.
Alex, Geert Vanden Bossche has figured out what’s happening and is sounding the alarm that our pandemic response needs to switch to antivirals or it’s game over. Interestingly Albert Bourla tweeted yesterday that his wife has COVID and is taking Paxlovid. The new celebrity refrain is, “so thankful I’m vaxxed/boosted AND taking my COVID pills.” I think they know. Please take in Geert’s analysis/interview on the HighWire if at all possible. Here’s the link: https://thehighwire.com/videos/the-vanden-bossche-warning/
No way his wife is taking that..lol
Pfizermectin? 😄
Much more expensive and with many more potential adverse side effects.
I expect the commie Vermont health authorities will replicate the UK and some other countries that are horrified by what’s happening. They’ll just stop differentiating between jabbed and unjabbed. This way there little boot licking minions will just line up for there next booster, like good the little commie citizens they are. These graphs will be sent to the ministry of disinformation to then be scrubbed and republished to fit there liking.
PRECISELY as Geert Vanden Bossche in Belgium has predicted all along- he is the man to listen to. He is worried we are only 1-2 months away from a deadly variant that will hit the vaccinated almost entirely. The virus should be back to baseline now if we’d left well enough alone- there is no chance now of ever getting back to baseline without massive loss of life. Only the healthy unvaccinated have a chance of escaping because their immune systems are still intact. Thank you Fauci/Gates/et al for vaccinating during the heat of a pandemic, a big no-no. All vaccinated people he says should get on a prophylactic regimen of hydroxy, ivermectin, or other antivirals ASAP and stay on it indefinitely.
It's almost like the vaccines increase your chance of getting Covid. Hmm...I wonder why that is.
They do; Omicron loves the vaxed.