For many of us, this is one of the toughest things we have had to live through. It is painful to watch people who are smart enough to know better constantly turn a blind eye to the truth of what is happening. My entire profession of dentists in the US appears to be captured! We were lectured by our largest organization (the ADA) to not spread misinformation about masks or vaccines yet we are supposed to respect the critical design of scientific discovery???!! We were also told by the ADA that it is ethical to deny treatment to an unvaccinated person. I do not recognize this world we live in!
I continue to post on our state dental forum, in an effort to enlighten other providers....I feel like I am trying to move mountains :(
I’m so sorry. The same is happening with Nurse licensing Boards. Part of our job entails educating patients & being their advocates. I’ve been written up so many times for warning my patients about Remdesivir, I could wallpaper the entire ICU ‘Rona unit with them. My State Board is threatening loss of licensure for spreading “misinformation “ . The real science is on our side. I’ve requested the peer reviewed double blind studies proving Remdesivir is safe and effective. Crickets. Keep fighting!
Thank you. I heard Remdsivir was called, "Death is Near." Can you share the stats on its death rate with Ebola patients without actually talking about covid? And its link to kidney failure?
"However, remdesivir, a nucleotide analogue prodrug originally developed for the treatment of Ebola virus, was found to inhibit the replication of a wide range of human and animal coronaviruses in vitro and in preclinical studies."
Everyone should buy the hard copy print version. Digital media can be censored. We all know the state is in favor of censorship. Plus we all need to support to few voices left in journalism who are actually trying to find out the truth about these vaccines and the monsters who wish to force us them on us or lock us up. Buy the full price hard copy. I bought two hard copies of Pandemia. And two hard copies of Robert Kennedys “Tony Fauci is a Monster.”
That's why I bought 2 copies of Pandemic from Amazon....I wanted them to know there are people out here who are seeking the truth. I also purchased RFK, Jr's book and I highly reccommend Scott Atlas's A Plague Upon Our House .... he exposes the groupthink and corruption of Trump's WH taskforce "trifecta" of Fausti, Birx and Redfield.
I listened to a doctor who is familiar with the adverse affects of Remdisivir. He said that, during the early stages of the ordeal, that when he heard from fellow doctors that patients in hospital were experiencing kidney failure, he knew immediately that Remdisivir was the cause. Apparently that's one of the common side effects of the drug, but doctors using it were unaware (we hope).
Real America's Voice News is having a special on that tomorrow night (12/7) featuring two whistle-blower doctors in Michigan, and they specifically discuss Remdisivir.
Heh. My dentist suffered neurological problems post-vax that left her worried she would be unable to continue her practice. Fortunately they did go away. But she will not be getting any boosters and could be fairly accurately described now as anti-vax.
who will ever bust that shield Pharma has of being untouchable for any and all injection adverse events? Seems like they are made of Teflon. Zero accountability. Real accountability that is...
Not an expert here, but pretty sure the EUA is blanket protection for all products, services and even layers of supply chain. "Vaccines" have the extra, separate protection. If and when any of their products go off EUA, e.g. get full approval, I assume that opens much of the chain to liability claims, but not the vaccine (maker) itself. Now if I were an attorney, I would be working day and night to find a way to prove in a court of law that the mRNA jabs are NOT vaccines...
Seem obvious they are not a vaccine to many. At best they lessen symptoms. Sure there is a spike in antibodies to the spike protein, but that is simply a immune response and the old definition of a vaccine was to provide immunity and not reduction of symptoms technically. Notice the definition was changed fairly recently to know reflect what these injections actually do. How could a lawyer not argue that manipulation?
Thanks ! You must be the needle in the haystack. Don't give up. We are almost there. The fortress is crumbling. A drop of water can make the bucket run over. One rock can cause an avalanche. And it is about to happen. Soon the hole dirty story is going to collapse and you will be the one that told them so. Thank you for that.
So propaganda works in other words. There is no point in trying to "convince" others. The important thing is to realize that you indeed haven't gone insane, stay open-minded yourself and other than that go about your day. Avoid Karens at all cost.
Good advice but this ADA lecture just came out to us. They are doubling down and NO ONE in dentistry seems to be taking notice. In what world do we deny treatment to a patient??!!
I was in dentistry during the AIDS epidemic and it was unethical to deny treatment or to treat them differently than another patient. We are trained to treat all patients as if they are diseased, hence our strict sterilization protocols. This is why I am so disappointed in our profession...we're changing ethical practices just to keep up with the narrative.
I am a RN and also am experiencing crushing disappointment with my profession and the medical field in general for so many errors, so many times when we could have steered the public health response away from the panic, away from causing so much harm.
The issue that grieves me most is that the very people who were tasked with promoting and protecting informed consent killed it and then supported the punishment of patients who did not give consent.
I can’t let it go either, retired from pharmacy, it was bad in the past few years for many reasons, addiction, reimbursements etc, but this is so disturbing. Sad. Glad we’re out.
Same here. I'm retired now and I can't believe this. There is no way we could have denied treatment to an AIDS patient. I don't even think we could inquire about their HIV status.
^This is exactly right. Some of the genesis for HIPPA was because employers were asking about it, sometimes as a way to find out if someone were potentially gay. Sick then and sick now.
There may even be a bit of irony in there: If the SARS-CoV-2 did come from a lab, which is quite possible, then any number of speculations become more likely. One of many is that the virus has inserts from the HIV virus. This is easily within the realm of possibility, perhaps even probability. Among the many (published) research tricks was making the virus more infectious in humans, so why not? I've skimmed some of the published SARS and GoF research and I believe HIV/AIDS virus experimentation is mentioned.
Or how about people whose teeth are wrecked because they choose to do drugs or eat sugar, or just don’t take care of their teeth? They’d never be denied treatment.
I mean we've always denied treatment to people who can't afford it, it is the American way :) . Just pretend the vaccinated people you don't like are unvaccinated behind their back to your colleagues or make up rumors that they told you they faked their vaccine card and you don't feel safe, you can deny people you don't like treatment to as well.
That's not precisely true, in the US it was possible to negotiate with a doctor for care. Not every doctor, but there were plenty who treated poor people and took a loss for it. Now with the federal government sticking its fingers in everything, there are places that refuse Medicare. That's a fail. The US government forced care at its prices and deprived doctors of discretionary charity.
Tell that to my overwhelmed RN spouse, who treats drug-seeking homeless people every single shift. Many of whom are in the hospital with vague symptoms and receive in-patient care for WEEKS. (It's super popular with the homeless population this time of year: free shelter, free food, and free opioids.
Trained medical professionals have to weigh the conflict between their medical knowledge and their well compensated livelihood. Initially it was an easy call because few of them had any training in epidemiology, beyond the basics, if at all, and relied on authorities to guide them. After two years of obvious failures, everyone with any medical training at all understands the failures of not only the vax, but of the authorities. So, now the tie breaker will be the integrity of individual practitioners. Many, if not most, are honest enough to speak up for ending the insanity. The tyranny will quickly collapse.
I have health professionals look me in the eye and tell me the jab is necessary. I know they are lying. As a former health professional, they know I know they are lying. Yet they continue to insult my intelligence with feeding me a line of bs.
Unfortunately most health people don't know much about vaccines, either. They only learn how many to give. They don't know what is in it and except for a few, don't bother to read books on the topic. They all think vaccines work.
That is so true. Many doctors forgot about it. Vaccines can harm. The least a doctor could do is tell that. When I came to the US I was given 7 shots without a word. No one asked, no one even told me which ones it were! I was appalled. If I had known I might not have come LOL
Nothing is without risk. "Do no harm" is a great precept but in the real world the best we can hope for is "Minimize the risk of harm." As I already pontificated in a post above 🙂, yes each of those 7 vaccines had a risk, probably measured at one in several million each. It is also quite possible you would not have been allowed to remain in the USA unless you got those vaccines.
If you drive a car, you probably had training to do so, you are sober and wear a seat belt and don't drive like a maniac. All these improve your chances, but nothing can guarantee you won't be injured or killed on the road. But still, most of us take that chance many times a day without even worrying about it.
Still, they could have told me these shots were mandatory, and which ones it were. I had almost all child sicknesses and natural immunity which is preferable. Several other immigrants told me they did not get them or only part of them. Luckily so far all I got is some mild allergies, that are probably not from that. Reading DR Suzanne Humphries book though, made me think of it again. There should be choice, like there is choice to travel or not to travel. I think the government should not interfere, and certainly not connect with pharmaceutical companies, to do that. I know the American government holds the patents to several vaccines. Your health should be your own responsibility (and it should be thaught in schools) and that of your doctor of choice. As to the do no harm rule, indeed, the best a doctor can do is.. do his best. NOT do what big pharma commands.
Most doctors are total idiots. They can memorize things from a textbook that’s it. Most of them become callous and insensitive somewhere along the way. I work with a surgeon who proudly boasted in the Operating Room that he was able to get his two teenage sons vaccinated with Moderna months before any other kids under 18 had EUA access to the shots. I asked him “why would you do that!? Moderna has been outlawed in 7 countries for everyone under 30 due to risk of myocarditis. Only Phizer is given to kids in the US under EUA and even Phizer has a 1:5000 risk of myocarditis and has less than 2 months of safety data in kids. If you gave your kids 100ug of Moderna then you overdosed them by at least a factor of 3 compared to the kid dose for Phizer”. He turned to me and said “I had no idea you were an antivaxer! I don’t want you in my operating room any more. “
Really.
There are still smart, kind doctors out there with excellent bedside manner. But the average doctor is completely average which makes their advice completely untrustworthy.
That’s why you still read about doctors cutting off the wrong leg of a patient. Or doctors leaving sponges inside a patients body during surgery. Really.
These are the same doctors that tell your Remdesivir, decadron and intubation are the only approved treatments they can offer you for covid.
The dentist is not alone. There are MANY doctors who will not accept patients who are unvaccinated. Unbelievable, since it is well known by know that vaccines are non sterilizing. The vaccinated can catch covid, spread covid and carry more covid germs in their nasopharynx then the unvaccinated. UK data literally shows a pandemic of the VACCINATED. Using vaccination as a prerequisite for anything is completely unfounded.
You MUST be your OWN Heath care advocate! You can not trust the average doctor, the hospital administrators, the CDC and the FDA. Get your own medicine from a trustworthy doctor as an outpatient BEFORE you get sick. Have a Emergency covid medicine kit ready in your medicine cabinet. Stay out of the hospital by taking prophylaxis and early treatment. Use the FLCCC, McCullough, or the Tyson/Fareerd protocols.
Print out some medical journals that are relevant and leave them taped to your surgeons locker.
Back in my mid-20s I rented a room in a high school friend's house. His dad was a very intelligent (MS EE from MIT) but very eccentric. Mr. "Jones" was into alternative health (vitamins, etc.) Relevant to your post, one of his stories was that he'd tried to be the advocate for his mother when she was in the hospital. He was concerned that she didn't get the best forms of care. And this was back in the early 1980s. Mr. Jones used to say the "people go into the hospital to die." At the time, I thought it was hyperbole. But forty years on, I'm not so sure.😐
ThAnk you for sharing all of that!! I'm SO done with people calling the "UNvaxinated" anti-vaxers, simply for having common sense, a BRAIN, and using it to make probably the smartest decision ever made - staying awaY from these dangerously toxic jabs. My response to the Dr. Falsely SCIENCE HIMSELF (luvv that from another here) misinformation induced blind and mentality impaired now is - "You know it's noT a vaccine, don't you?" - and to "LOOK IT UP...and while you're at it, look anY of his claims up (just not on Google), and do a lil bit of research for yourself." It's all SOOO unnerving!!
Again, Thx for your share!! Wise, helpful info... : )
Only by some in the medical profession. I would prefer to say my colleagues see it as elastic-- works when the regulators/associations say it does and doesn't work when we are told it doesn't 🙄. Here in Toronto, our associations are very very political-- hence the shut the f#$$ up about vaccines.
Yes, I know my doctors are camouflaging the truth, simply because I have known them for so long and can read facial expressions and body language. I actually think it is painful for them. Then there are those that are vax zealots.
We're always saddened to learn doctors are human, too. We hope for wisdom, if not omniscience, but millions of their patients die every year, sometimes because of their limitations, but often because of their errors. Medical errors are not well documented for all the usual reasons, but it's considered by many to be 3rd or 4th highest cause of death in the US.
Patients have responsibilities, too. Among those is supervising our doctors who are our employees just like auto mechanics and cab drivers. We get better results if we know what they're doing.
I see a couple specialists. Last week, my pulmonist. There was a new, tiny spot in my lung, but apparently nothing to worry about. I asked Dr. X if he'd seen an increase in business this year. I was digging for possible vax commentary. His answer was rather offhand, like "it varies". He is neither pro nor anti vaxx with me at least, he only asks if I've taken the vaxx.
I look forward to my next visit to my cardiologist. I hope to have a more sophisticated question to trip him up. 😈
Several nurses I know who have worked 20 years+ for a fairly large healthcare organization tell me the majority of those they work with MD's, Nurses etc choose to bite their lip to keep their job, not be ostracized or be targeted as spreading in reality TRUTH of these 2020 and beyond whu-flu measures put in place. Think about how much power and control the CDC, FDA and Big Pharma has over the heads of these people. Talk about mafia like coercion to silence these individuals
But the hospital systems aren't taking people for a car ride from which they never return...they're firing them. People have been injured, disabled, and died because of the willful ignorance and cowardice of these doctors and nurses. I have no sympathy.
I had an appt with my surgeon (he has operated on me before) and his longtime PA. I like them both very much. He is a top surgeon at large hospital in a major city. My record clearly indicates that I am not vaccinated. I would have to test negative before any surgery, but that's it. I really wanted to inquire about the hospital vaccine mandate, but I didn't wish to put them in an untenable situation.
Did nurses get addicted to this "frontline heroes" thing and then when they got all this attention they kept going with it. The way some of these nurses would describe the scene at their hospitals they made it sound like they were medics on the front line administering morphine and taking off their dog tags when it reality they are nowhere near the ER or the Covid unit, they are just paper pushers but you would have no idea the way they describe it.
There are several hospitals near where I live so there are nurses everywhere and they keep this rona narrative going by stories of "perfectly healthy, maybe a little overweight, who one day is fine and the next day she is dead" story that my wife loves to share. There is always more to the story but I just let it be.
Someday soon you are going to see a press conference similar to this one below.
My dentist isn't crazy...but my ophthalmologist is completely broken. My daughter has a history of childhood asthma and is currently flaring. She's been working with children and has been sick three times in the last six months after years of no issues. She's a young adult, so I have influence...maybe...but I can't force her to do anything. Finally, after a week of coughing despite the action plan, I convinced her to call her asthma doctor on Friday. The triage nurse told her that she'd have to get a PCR test (despite two negative antigens tests) before they would schedule an emergency appointment. I'm livid. Effing lunatics.
I can tell you with certainty, many are pushovers,pussies and wimps, and a few are stupid, 35 years dealing with healthcare, I apologize to the good ones.
Do these doctors realize that when something bad happens to their patients that is directly related to these injections who the grieving spouse is going to confront? Not some CEO of Big Pharma or Dr. Fauci, it is going to be the doctor or nurse who pushed it on them.
Eventually this pandemic is going to get exposed and like every big crisis there will be a collective excuse that gets everyone off the hook (What's good for Wall Street is good for Main Street). It will be guilt by association, a mass hysteria moment of history "We all got caught up in it" that nobody gets the blame.
Tell those excuses to a mom/dad that loses a kid or he has some massive heart condition that ruins his life. If a doctor/nurse pushed that on my kid and the end result was death, God forbid what I might do to this person.
These decisions are going to have dire consequences and already are ripping families apart and pitting us against each other (part of the Grand Plan of leftists)
Doctors and nurses are the ones that should be the calming factor when people come in and there head is full of illnesses they think they have after scouring the internet to find out what is wrong with them. Now the doctors are the ones scaring the crap out of people by fear porn. I'm better off just staying at home and do what I always do and use common sense.
If this virus is so bad, then why aren't there hundreds of people found dead in their homes instead of the hospital?
Thanks for the response and keep speaking out and challenging the narrative. I've pissed a lot of people off by just speaking facts and asking questions but it has been worth it because as time passes people are starting to see that I was right all along.
I should add that she is unvaxxed. I didn't have to say a thing. She wanted no parts of it, even though most of her friends got the jabs by choice. She's required to test weekly by her employer.
I'm so glad to have the dentist I have. He and I and his hygienists have been tearing the whole fraudulent-vaccine putsch to shreds since he was allowed to reopen June 2020. How is it dentists haven't required covid tests when they go mining one of the filthiest parts of our bodies? For me to get a spinal RF nerve ablation I have to get a covid test. Are dentists somehow supposed to be more immune than someone sticking a red hot needle in my back? I'm so glad I know this guy.
No surprise to me that the dental profession is captured. These are the people who put mercury in our mouths for over 150 years and claimed it was perfectly safe, even while they required the unused paste to be treated as highly toxic hazardous waste and disposed of accordingly.
So it sounds like the ADA would be ok with a dentist not treating someone with an infected tooth that could go to their brain. That would be nuts. We need new institutions. All of these institutions are captured by idiocy and when it comes to denying treatment, cruelty. Before treatment of any kind, I am inclined to ask my doctor/dentist their opinion on the vaccines first. Thank you for standing up.
I agree. I work with educators who should be able to read all the data and make different decisions. But, they don't. They follow like cattle going through the chute to their slaughter. Willingly and without fear trusting what happens at the end of that chute is good for them. I think it boils down to having a serious relationship with Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit in me is what makes me able
to see clearly the evil in all of this. Too many people don't have that and are blinded to truth. Even when it's right in front of them. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me.
I just signed up with a new dentist in Virginia Beach on Friday, they’re outside my insurance coverage (Puerto Rico) so I’m going to have to pay out-of-pocket for all my visits including the first visit, a comprehensive one, that runs nearly $500. But that’s better than being injected with an experimental drug about which there is literally zero long-term safety and efficacy data.
What is the greatest fear for doctors in regards to the injections and mandates? Are you worried about losing your license, being ostracized socially and professionally, or is it just being part of the hive mentality. Doctors haven't been so bad for me but nurses are the ones that openly campaign for injections and they are really lacking in the evolution of data. The ones I have debated with are stuck in the first trimester of the pandemic and just suspended curiosity and accepted it as fact. Very confusing times for everyday people who looked up to doctors and nurses but now I view them in a different light and it will be hard to gain that trust again. Maybe it is a big business and its numbers that are important (quantity over quality) and not personalized care. So instead of listening they dispense drugs or injections and see more patients. It is good to hear that you understand what is taking place and speaking out you take a risk but you help people. This era will end sometime and there will be some psychological term to label it and the label will get everyone off the hook.
It’s mystifying. I work at a large teaching hospital. Roughly 80% of the Hospitalists(MDs) & RNs are vaccinated. We are trained to work with potentially deadly diseases, so, in January of 2020, the level of panic/fear exhibited by so many in my profession was just unnerving. I couldn’t understand it. As you noted, it continues unabated. Hospitalists are, in general, MDs that are happy to carry out whatever Admin tells them to. The surgeons are usually more independent but increasingly they too are taking the path of least resistance. My own doctor is a brainwashed Covidian. I wish I had an answer to your question. It’s sheer madness and, like you, I no longer trust the healthcare profession. Even without the mandate, I’m tempted to quit, almost every shift. I stay because I feel I can still do some good for my patients.
Please hold out. We need you now more than ever. Soon the vaxxed will get sick in larger numbers and there you will be and able to help those in need. Thank you for doing this.
Yes. We need to stop the political game and have a government that works for the people again. We need the government to be completely loose from all commercial enterprises. We also will need them to be loose of party politics. I don't think I will live long enough, but who knows !
Have you noticed the plethora of commercials that are related to the medical industry and Big Pharma? I don't think I have seen a Coke or Snickers bar commercial in months and shouldn't we be seeing Nyquil commercials for the flu?
We should! But, as you noted, everything is Big Pharma. I’m on the lookout for commercials/public health announcements that list the warning signs of pediatric strokes... they want to condition the general public into thinking that kids have ALWAYS had strokes. It’s beyond evil. Our cardiac unit is full of young ppl, mostly men. Just unheard of to have so many young, fit men in the cardiac unit. Heart cells don’t regenerate. They scar. Heartbreaking. Literally.
When you see this happening what do the nurses say to each other? Are you quiet or are you alarmed? The narrative is kept alive by word of mouth because everyone knows a nurse. My wife knows a lot of nurses and they always have the story of "a healthy ____ old came in one day with covid and within ____ days they were dead.
Most of these nurses don't work in the ICU and they hear the stories from other nurses who probably heard it from some other nurse.
But when you see young people die and you know something is fishy do you just keep quiet because you know when you open up that Pandora's box you are in for it. Tons of paperwork, meetings with HR, one big hassle. Honestly, I can't blame you for not saying anything because if you have family your life will be upended but on the other hand your silence continues the charade.
Everyone has been cowardly in some way, myself included. It's the doctors that get me. I haven't had any bad experiences with them but the ones that I know on a personal basis are shocked that I would even broach the narrative with them. I will see these parents at youth sporting events and they give me that "how dare you question my authority, I am a doctor."
I'm not a doctor but I have a brain and I can read a spreadsheet and assess data and make my own conclusions. The research is overwhelming and the ironic thing is that it is out there, even on the CDC website, but they only look at the abstracts of research or the condensed versions of research that are summed up like talking points.
When people die due to this cowardice or bad advice there is going to be some heavy guilt. If I advised something I knew in my gut was wrong, I couldn't live with myself.
You are in a tough situation and you probably have mixed emotions on it all and just keep working at it and look to help people when you can and fight the system from within without losing your job in the process.
I speak up. Most don’t. RNs & MDs remain silent, for the most part, bc they fear for their jobs & their licenses. I’ve been written up multiple times and my State licensing Board had me in the crosshairs for spreading “misinformation “. I have zero sympathy for the MDs & RNs who remain silent. It’s immoral. Patients depend on us. They trust us ( or did) . If everyone in the medical profession spoke up, this “pandemic “ would be over. I’m a flawed human being, just like everyone else. I don’t consider myself superior or in any way heroic for speaking out. It’s just the way I was raised, and my conscience won’t let me keep quiet. Silence might save one’s job, but it is soul killing.
What is your feeling about PCR tests? Everytime my kid has a sniffle, my wife immediately thinks its covid and wants to get them tested and I know if they do they are going to come back positive and then it is two weeks away from school and everyone at the school and community knowing my kid has covid when he doesn't.
I get tested every week to keep my job and it is a hassle but I'll do it to keep my job which I enjoy. I always taught my kids to tough it out and not be prone to invisible fear but I feel like they are falling prey to all this fear porn. It is just too much and it is everywhere and teachers are the worst, especially if they are Democrats. They are as crazy about Covid as nurses are.
IMO the PCR testing is the worst and should be avoided as much as possible. Like you, I can’t avoid it. My job requires it. I insist they swab my mouth, not my nose. The swabs are usually from China ( of course!) and they are sterilized with ethylene glycol, a known carcinogen. In addition, the swabs contain fibers & glass particles to “harden” them in order to cause micro-injuries in the nasal cavity so as better to grab onto any virus particles ( so they say. Some scientists liken the swabs to inhaling asbestos. Do a search on Duck Duck Go... you’ll find a wealth of solid info. Perhaps enough to convince your wife that the tests are to be avoided.
As for your job testing requirements, I recommend you insist they swab your mouth. Rinse immediately afterwards. You are still exposed to the EG but at least it’s further away from your brain stem, and you can rinse your mouth . Good luck! Keep fighting!
I have to deal with the VA and I can tell you unequivocally they refuse to treat me with anything not sanctioned by CDC or FDA. I've now watched four people die from the poison prick, and many "vaccinated" get sick. Many right after the "booster".
the VA is terrible. Until recently they killed many many dogs in needless experiments. They forbid family to bring herbal tea ! They are experimenting on patients. Therefor you can bring nothing from outside that might interfere with the experiment. Awful.
Indeed. I'm positive I've made all kinds of friends at the VA over the last couple years. I've been sending them links to Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Pierre Kory for them to review refusing hydroxy chloroquine and Ivermectin among other treatments. I'm sure they love me! 😉
A dentist friend I WAS dating, called me paranoid for my vax resistance & beliefs. Yet, I had a discussion with him about the booster which led to him changing his mind about getting it. However, any thoughts I had as to the possibility of dangerous ingredients, green passports, eventual control of humanity with vaxes being the start etc. transhuminism was seen as PARANOID! It sure seemed he was hypocritical bc at the same time he was very ready to go into battle over our lose of freedoms in the recent 18 mos. Yet he refused to accept most of the other aspects of all this, and it actually made him a tad angry as if he wasn’t ACTING PROFESSIONAL by embracing the full picture (brainwashing by the ADA?). Also, I think bc underlying is his lucrative income and his undying loyalty to the medical profession from the last 40 years, along with in recent years the hijacking of critical thinking of medical professions due to corporate dominance. Practicing medicine is all an algorithm nowadays and seems to have led to his refusal to see it ALL being related or the ENTIRE picture.
Can someone please start a dating app for the unvaccinated? I’ve got two adult sons, 27 and 32, unvaxxed, (like myself), gainfully employed, handsome:), own their own homes, but have become lepers in our circle. This is so infuriating!!
Don’t worry. I imagine a time when finding an unvaccinated partner who wants to start a family will be a real concern. And then the few who remained unvaxxed will be in high demand. Speaking as a Mom who has an eligible daughter. 😀
Encourage them to get involved with a grassroots movement. If there isn't one, start one. As a 31 year old single woman I have no fear of finding someone when the time is right. I personally hate the idea of meeting someone through an app, although I understand why many feel that is their best option. This is more than an issue of vaccinated and unvaccinated. This is an issue of society being in a spiritual and communal crisis.
My daughter is only 12 and I am already thinking how hard it's going to be for her to find a nice man when she grows up. Now there is yet another requirement: he has to be unvaccinated! Shame your handsome sons are too old for her.
If you search "unvaccinated dating website" on the search engine "DuckDuckGo", this website comes up the first. If we search on Google, nothing comes up (of course...)
In general DuckDuckGo is the better search engine which doesn't truck you. And most importantly, it doesn't censor websites and manipulate the search results.(unlike Google!!)
(So after 2020, more and more good info is only on this search engine but not on Google, so I asked my husband to set it up as my main search engine. Probably your sons can do it for you:)!)
Thanks to your two wonderful guys to keep the organic human genes! I would worry for my kids too if I have any. I only subscribed in order to comment for this, haha;D
Did you just coin a new phrase, "Organic Human?" I love it. I can't wait to tell someone in the vaxx cult that, "I'm organic and you aren't haha. I am non-GMO and you aren't!"
There was a dating app launched at the beginning of the rollout and the app stores banned them. If Google or Apple doesn’t approve you don’t have a business.
Vaccine efficacy fades over time, so I need to go get a booster.
How do you respond to that?
I carry a sharpie with me wherever I go. Sometimes I write "What the fuck is really going on?" in public spaces because I do think the best way to reach people is to ask questions. We can't provide answers that they'll reject, only ask them to start thinking critically.
Personally, I've found that not mentioning "Covid" or "pandemic" or "vaccine" is helpful. Those words trigger whatever spell they're under and they get defensive.
The issue Alex highlights here is the most important challenge we face today. What is the best way to wake someone up? For many of them, problems are ignored and the script kicks in. How do you break the spell and short circuit the script?
I've been thinking it's lists or compilation videos of athletes and children dying.
Yes, this is good. I saw another one on twitter with news clips where the reporters kept saying over and over that the person suddenly died cause unknown, mostly young athletes. Can't find it now and search tools make them difficult to rediscover.
When it comes to children I tell parents if they know how they will respond to the question there kids ask them in the future "Dad/Mom why did you have me vaccinated when I was a kid and now I can't _________. Whether or not if it is good or bad, they will spend their whole lifetime questioning whether or not they did the right thing. There will be a hysteria on every ailment moving forward if it is related to the vaccines and boosters (real or imagined).
For me, it is one less thing I rather not think of and I will go with what God gave me.
Good for you! Inspiring-- I think I have a few sharpies around 😊 Saw the phrase "Fauci is a criminal" on a Construction sign while stopped at a light two days ago. Its turned-- time for us to help it along .
Yes, indeed. Here's another idea: Write short messages or websites (e.g. nvic.org) on those little green pieces of paper we trade around in the marketplace. I do. I always enjoy giving them to merchants. What if we all did this?
I love that! Yes, I've been inspired by similar graffiti / messages scrawled in Sharpie all over the place. I think people need to know they are not alone, that we are out there, thinking the same thing.
Use the word "injection" instead of jab. I also use the phrase "I rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned." It gets them thinking.
I'm glad you liked it and the only way to get people to change the way they think is not by direct confrontation but just by planting the seed of doubt. Make them think (which people don't want to do these days) and they might come around. But when they do, it will be on their terms but you were the catalyst. It's a win-win for both sides.
We are still at the mass hysteria/political stage but it is starting to wane. The Omicron might be there last push because it is becoming white noise at this point.
Someday soon we might be hearing a press conference like the one below.
I just attended the funeral of my father. He was of advanced age but very healthy, jogging 2-3 miles per day. He was very intelligent and did his homework; he held out on getting the shot for nearly a year (he even introduced me to The High Wire).
His doctor finally convinced him to get the J&J in September. Last Monday night, he dropped with a sudden heart attack (clot) and was gone.
there is a lot of that going on and noone in major media circles is talking about. it. Im a doc and I have seen a lot fo vax injuries. I've been seeing auto immune problems in young otherwise healthy people
I hear about healthy 18 year-old boys getting their third mRNA shot and I have a hard time understanding how they could be so ill-informed and reckless
my medical colleagues practically clawed over themselves early on to get some of the first doses of this thing when it was released and offered to us from the local hospital where we have privileges. Everyone was in the "fog " of war kind of state. I am 53, im an ophthalmologist. I think that the reason I wasnt swayed or as scared of the whole thing is b/c i've pretty much been a libertarian since I was like 12 years old. Im part of this whole Mises/Rothbardian / Ron paul libertarian group. I grew up in a religious jewish home and had relatives from POland /russia and Austria who emigrated to the US in the early 1900s and after but left a whole contingent of cousins back in Europe who will all gassed by Nazis. I pretty much dont believe or trust ANYTHING
governement says....I read ALL the studies and literature about the mRNA vaxes. There was NO representation by Pfizer that this vax would prevent spread and transmission BUT somehow the thing was marketed and propagandized to us that it would... that you were doing some kind of patriotic duty to get the vax when in fact it was purely selfish act of self protection. I spoke with a few of the docs at my local hospital medical executive committe and I offered my dose of the pfizer shot to my older semi retired medical colleqgue and they refused to let him have it. that left a bad taste in my mouth. So I deferred the vax and then I got natural covid in August 2021. I am recovered without any problems. This local hospital has now SUSPENDED my privileges and will revoke them at the end of dec 2021, if i dont get the jab. I appealed for an exemption and it was denied. Me and many others got together and are suing.
read this story about another doc ( with no legs) who worked for the hostpial and was FIRED
I disagree. Pfizer said 95% efficacy in not getting covid (8 vs. 162) in their first set of studies that led to the EUA. If you cannot get it, you do not spread.
No they said 95 percent effective in REDUCING SEVERE ILLNESS AND DEATH. There was no assertion that the jab would prevent infection or transmission. It was hoped that the shots would prevent transmission. But the initial study was not set up to show that and there was no evidence for that. And anyway if your risk of death or severe disease is 0.2 and a vax reduces that risk by 95 percent ( we now know the effectiveness is much less) then the ABSOLUTE RISK REDUCTION ; reducing a risk of 0.2 by 80 percent is less than 1 percent. SO it makes no sense for ANYONE except the at risk to get this vax
No, even successful vax (these are not) does not prevent infection, nor retransmission. It only accelerates immune response to kill the pathogen, usually before the inflammatory reactions kick in. Vaxed people may be contagious for a shorter time than those with weaker immune health, but can still spread their viral passengers until they kill them. And vax doesn't provide an impenetrable shield to anyone. Those with weak immune health have less response to the vax just like they do with the pathogen. The 95% commercials are averages for a specific set of subjects. Unlikely it applies to you.
The data was derived from participants on a trial that wasn't properly blind (Look up images of Moderna arm) where corrupt practices are alleged to have gone on, such as data falsification. Out of approx 40 000 results were based on how many chose to ring in their symptoms and whether or not the investigator chose to test them. The 8 vs 162 is likely to be BS too.
I don't put much faith in those studies. I can understand why ethics forbid "challenging" test subjects with the true virus. But if they don't do that, how can they possibly make any claims about efficacy? Perhaps there's some logic, but it escapes me. What they essentially claim is that in (say) six months, a certain # of people did or did not catch the virus. Very well, but there is no assurance the virus was there to be caught! This sounds about as rational as if I were to claim my magic amulet has protected me against Ebola all my life; missing from the argument is that Ebola is rather rarely encountered in the USA.
Hold the line. The federal courts put a hold on the CMS hospital vaccine mandate making it no longer enforceable on any healthcare provider or employee. I’ve heard that hospitals in Texas, Ohio, flordia have sent out emails to all their staff announcing they can no longer enforce a vaccine mandate. Hang in there. Hang in there.
I can remember the enthusiasm and hope I felt in 2008 when Ron Paul made his presidential bid. So many young, energetic people came flocking into the "Grand Ole Party".
I thought to myself, "All we got to do is show people his speeches and how on target he is concerning our foreign policy, endless undeclared wars and budget shenanigans and he will beat the pants off all these Rhino's in the primary!"
I canvased, I recruited, I maned the phones... and ... and.. well, I ended up being VERY DISAPPOINTED in the reactions from so-called "conservatives" I knew. You would have thought I was trying to talk them into buying a bridge in New York. They would literally look at me and say, "Ron Paul? That guy is a nutcase!" If only they could have seen what was coming. If you want to see insane, look where we ARE NOW!
I am with you, MiFly, in being a libertarian - though I came to it far older than 12 - so I have a bit of distrust in government at all times. Nonetheless, I always trusted vaccines. I have gotten every vaccination (except for the flu shot) at every stage of my life. But I also happen to be a fainter. I faint with nearly every injury no matter how minor. I faint every time I get a needle in my arm. When I saw that woman on TV who was one of the first people to get vaccinated and she fainted, my gut instinct said "hold up." So I went into a holding pattern, thinking I'll just wait and see. When It turned out that woman likely died (though nobody can seem to verify her death for certain), I moved a little more into the anti-vaxx camp. But I could still have been convinced to get it. Fortunately, I work for myself so I don't have any work mandate issues so I could just wait. And now, I wouldn't get that shot for a million dollars. The only way I am getting the shot is if they take me by force - and I'll go down fighting.
I saw a video of Dr. Zelenko who said eye Drs. are the ones who can make a difference in & be whistleblowers so to speak bc they are seeing that ppl who’ve been vaxed have changes in the vessels of their eyes. I forget now exactly the details of what he said. But he said you all have evidence that is not so easy compared to other medical fields bc the eyes are a body part that shows the difference wherein I guess the other areas of body the damage is too microscopic to show.
Do you use hi tech equipment that allows to look microscopically for damage in the eyes? It seems Dr. Zelenko is quite savvy, so wonder what he meant or if he was wrong?
That is exactly what my Russian, Belarusian and LIthuanian friends say as well.They laugh at the what we here in the West think is a hard slog. It has been educational and incredibly supportive to hear what they do to get around things and how they view authority. Love them 🥰
I always viewed doctor as intelligent, well-read and curious. When rona hit all those descriptors who thrown out the window because their minds closed to anything that didn't tow the company line. Doctors were always forthcoming and honest before rona but once it arrived they were either silent or pro-vaccine with no gray area. They didn't want to answer questions about HQ or Ivermectin and they didn't give you honest calming advice (99.9 chance of survival, don't worry about it).
I had this feeling that doctors were experiencing this "Big Brother/Big Pharma" power over them and they were told to not question anything (wink,wink) and just read the script.
Or how about a f$$#^%ng PRIME MINISTER of a country-- Canada doing a PSA speaking directly to 5 years olds saying " I bet you are excited to get your shot". I am NOT kidding you-- google it. 😳
Speaking as a man who was once an 18-year-old, I can assure you that being ill-informed and reckless comes with being that age. I made many poor choices in those years, but happily mRNA roulette was not on the list.
yes thats true. I was never vaxxed and neither were my teen kids. Anyone who is not at risk doenst need this thing . Those who are pushing it are reckless and criminally irresponsible
I've been waiting to see evidence of auto immune issues in the press... but I guess all the clotting issues are taking precedence (and happening faster)
My little sister (turning 30 this month ) is having MAJOR kidney issues- The "experts" can't figure out what is wrong with her. She has had both shots not sure about the booster. Her work required the V. Curious now about this being a side effect.
Very sorry. While you'll never know 100% that the shot did this, my money would be on - Yes, the shot did this. I know 2 men, one was 55 (suddenly died at home) and one 70 (suddenly collapsed, couldn't be resuscitated). I am very suspicious.
The "difference" between the mRNA shots and the J&J (AAV Adeno Associated Virus Vector) - is actually not very much. The J&J delivers double stranded DNA (dsDNA) to a human cell. The DNA is transcribed to make the resulting mRNA. And from there, you know the rest. J&J is just a different way of achieving mRNA inside a human cell.
There may be more differentiating factors (for example, is the resulting mRNA optimized to last longer in the human cell? Honestly, I don't know...) but you've got the main gist of J&J in the above paragraph.
When will these health professionals be sued for murder? I understand immunity from civil liability but if there was immunity from criminal liability…well, it would be a blood bath. Not sure how long med providers will keep this “golly gee I wonder what caused it?” attitude with no repercussions.
I'm not a lawyer, but as I understand US law, the burden of proof for criminal law is much stricter than civil. Now don't misunderstand me: I am by no means approving of the entire disinformation campaign for the vaxxes (I won't call them "vaccines") Nor am I happy that they are administered without the ethical if not legal requirement to obtain fully informed consent of the patient, and of course, that would forbid them being mandated under any circumstances. And yes, if even ten percent of what we read here, on in Alex's book, is true, then the entire medical and government profession is probably guilty of incompetence, cover-up, conspiracy or some such. But "murder" is a rather dire charge. To prove that, you would need to prove that one or more individuals deliberately intended to harm or kill one or more persons. Consider the fact that nearly all medications, including "good" vaccines, invariably will cause harm in (hopefully) a very tiny fraction of cases. Now, it's probably true the vaxxes have rates of injury ten or a hundred times worse than the best vaccines. No sane justice system would charge an MD with (most likely) manslaughter if a vaccine resulted in one death in a million, even if it could be proven the vaccine was at fault. I doubt a much better case could be made even if a vaxx is killing one in 10,000. Even a lesser charge like manslaughter or negligent homicide, you would need to prove gross disregard, reckless endangerment, negligence, and so on. This would be especially difficult if, as is true so far as I know, the vaxxes do in fact have positive protective effects.
Ok…you do have a well thought out point. Ultimately, it is a matter of informed consent and a personal choice. It’s the “mandate” or “compulsory” I have the problem with. Thanks for typing your thoughts
That's tragic. To see someone so healthy and fit die like that, especially your father! Do you think it was the shot? He had no heart trouble prior? I'm so sorry.
I know someone that died following the JNJ shot. He was in bad shape when they gave it to him, and went into a coma within 24 hours and died a few weeks later. His doctor deflected and said the patient was in bad shape to start with, and if it was the shot the reaction would have been within the first 2 hours. No matter how close the reaction is to the shots, there is incredible pressure not to link it.
I gotten the response that people aren't following the rules and aren't locking down/masking properly. Lockdowns/masks would work if people just followed the rules.
That could be why the unvaxxed are being blamed for covid cases. If only the unvaxxed would get vaxxed then covid would end. However, a lot of people do start to doubt that the unvaxxed are the cause when when there is a 90% vax rate, a vax pass and lots of covid cases.
A former friend said just that - masked improperly and that does not help. Then she told me she had trouble breathing and now and then lifted the mask (that you are not supposed to touch once you wear it). I had a hard time keeping a straight face.
It's funny. The more sunscreen has been used in our society, the more skin cancer there is. I've heard some dermatologists explain this is because "people don't wear sunscreen properly".
Which is true! If you're at the beach, you have to cover every inch of your body with sunscreen every 2 hours. Miss a spot? Get burned. Forget to reapply in time? Burned. The fact is sunscreen is almost impossible to use properly. It gives one a false sense of safety.
Since I stopped completely relying on sunscreen, I haven't had a burn. I just take it easy, sit in the shade a little, sit in the sun a little, wear a hat & long sleeves sometimes. I'l wear some on my face for when I swim and that's it. I've learned my limit, and get out of the sun before I get anywhere near a burn.
Masks are sort of the same. I mean, I don't think they're ever effective ... but to wear one "properly" is nearly impossible. Products that are impossible to use properly are ineffective.
Glad you found out ! And most sunscreens contain dangerous products. Check out all the ingredients is good. NOT using them is even better, just the little like you do.
I have been using coconut oil instead and with good results. Can also be used on dry hair. Can be eaten LOL. A beauty product that can not be eaten is not a good one !
I'm working up to no sunscreen. I used to be a believer, so much so that I wore it even when I was't going outside. Totally brainwashed. So I don't fully understand my limits. Each summer for the past three I've been experimenting.
That being said, I go for mineral sunscreen on my face, not the chemical stuff. Still, I think that's bad, too! We need unfiltered sunlight and lots of it.
The brainwashing ended when I started following and reading Dr. Mercola. That guy has really changed how I take care of myself.
See that is just it. They blame the unvaxxed. But if they believed their vaccination worked, why don't they just go on living? What does it matter that we are not? Since they are protected??? or not??? I just can't stop laughing at their own stupidity. And I told a few. They are pissed but they need me !
You have just identified a core flaw in any irrational belief system, whether it is called "religion" or "public health." If a human-created philosophy or other set of beliefs is not an accurate model of reality, no amount of cancelled speakers, dismissed professors, censored authors, ostracized citizens, nor unfavored people denied basic rights, fired professionals, nor intellectuals sent to the camps or shot, will make the slightest difference. It's been tried many times throughout history. Sadly, given human nature, it is still being tried.
A few hundred years from now, archeologists will dig up millions of needles and will come to the conclusion that at this time people were worshipping a needle god.
I come from a farm so know all about sheep. People are easy going so on a personal level very accepting (unlike some N.Y. friends!) but like NY you can basically only go to the supermarket if you’re unvaxxed. However the sentiment was more let’s just get it so we can move on (and the EU travel cert). They had been locked down for 5 months this year (in addition to 2020)
And they are planning on doing it again ! The belgian paper just reported they need to have sharper measures again. The comments though are very mixed. There are still some who think it does not go far enough and want to starve the unvaxxed, but more and more say hey, it did not help the former time. Why do you think it will this time? Lots of businesses have already gone down the ditch and this time it will be even more. 88 % vaccinated, never had this many sick and dead. You would think they look at the graphs!
They will find a scrapegoat for sure. They might insignate that newborns can now crawl over the floor and infect the people around them. Nothing too weird for these people. They already blame the under 5 year olds now.
Right. The U.K. and Ireland are very similar in their case trajectories but Ireland has taken a more strict approach (presumably for EU appearance sake) whereas the U.K. is taking a more endemic view and prioritising living and the economy
If you’re the ‘thinking person’ in your social group, you’re also the one no longer receiving social invitations. So not much of a chance to have that chat, unfortunately. They’re simply too invested at this point; they can’t ‘un-vaccinate’. 🤷🏻♀️
Schadenfreude. A German word. There is no English equivalent. It means deriving pleasure from the suffering and/or misfortune of others. Not a very wholesome notion to embrace admittedly but there are times like these that it is hard to resist at least a measure of this given the way those of us who choose to pass on the so-called vaccines are pilloried and ridiculed and hectored because we/they resist getting jabbed with this stuff. So when one hears about a fully vaccinated person who got the booster shot and who wears a mask all the time while constantly virtue signally how wonderful and responsible he/she is but who nevertheless becomes infected with The SARS2 virus, I readily confess that I get a chuckle when I hear it. Call me a less than a wonderful person for this admission but as Dr. Samuel Johnson once said “It is a virtue to acknowledge the truth even if the judgment falls on your own head.”
I am the same way. But I would NEVER ever ever push my view on whether to be jabbed or not on anyone. As a medical professional or as a friend. It is THEIR life. I only ask that I be treated the same. Freedom of choice on how to treat my health and how to live my life. If any "authority" in society feels my or others choices are dangerous-- prove it to me or as Socko the puppet (Beau Burnham) says "or get the fuck out of the way"
It is good to be honest. This is what everyone feels. I think that schadenfreude is amplified by isolation though. When you meet someone in person you disagree with who suffers, you're more likely to feel compassion.
The hallmark of the intelligent mind is to see things flat on without any hagiographical squint. Those who get sick with the virus despite taking every precaution and recommendation proffered by the pseudo-cognoscenti but who then sober up and realize that things are not what they have been told are people I can sympathize with and have no proper quarrel. However, if the same people continue to insist that they still possess the gnosis about this disease, I would laugh at them to their face.
It's not one-size-fits-all. For example, I would feel pity for an animal or person suffering due to no fault of his own. I would feel less (perhaps no) pity for a person who brought suffering upon himself if he had been warned of the risk and/or should have known better. Even the Old Testament has this concept about judgments: "...they have brought it upon themselves." Finally, there is the darkest form: to impose actual cruelty upon a victim, be it justified punishment or retribution or just plain evil sadism. Or even to vicariously enjoy such maltreatment. At the other, and perhaps happier extreme, is the Christian (?) saying, upon seeing a misfortune: "There but for the grace of God, go I."
As you can see, to feel pleasure/happiness/delight upon the suffering others covers quite a wide range of ethical ground.
Carol was talking a our opposing medical tyranny. Motive is irrelevant. During a fight we don't have time to sort all that out. They started the fight, they'll pay the price.
Unfortunately a new generation of kids believe in the god that failed. In my k-8 school my students often police themselves on masks and proudly suffer their post-jab “colds” and stare at me in disbelief whenever I speak heresy. Do most parents have the will to change when it takes knowledge to stand against both the high priests of covidianism — namely the politicians who will never admit error and the public health and medical/pharmaceutical establishment whose credibility is at stake; and against the wannabe priestly class, the everyday manager or bureaucrat such as a school board or superintendent, busybodies who keep selling the fear like sunglasses at dusk. Knowledge has been kept from the common people and the children. Most people in my travels do not seem to know or care what happens in Australia or the UK or in Israel. If it doesn’t show up in their feed or “for you” page it doesn’t exist, and if the governor tells you your job is gone because of the pandemic, well, most shrug. There is a pervasive hopelessness more dangerous than any respiratory virus. Just end the testing, end the fear, end the hegemony of the public health industrial complex. For me it all goes back to the redefinition — not of “vaccine” (although that is damning) — but the redefinition of what a “case” is. If it’s not a sick person, if it’s merely a positive PCR test — it’s not worth much.
No they don't. For my boomer parents, if it isn't on NBC Nightly News or in David Leonhart's column, it didn't happen. They are going to boost themselves into oblivion.
I agree, lets stop this "generation of X believes"-- nothing is monotlithic or homogenous-- lets stop making camps of differences! Lets find similarities between and within these groups that society LOVES to make.
Good point. The perspective I offered is from within education where the indoctrination is pervasive. Even among, as so many have pointed out, really smart people — who seem to have abandoned standards of critical thinking because “everything changed.”
My husband who is vax injured after the first shot , got refused entry to a restaurant yesterday even with an exemption. He told his friend about what happened and his friend said good. He said that a two teir society is acceptable right now. He said that my husband could’ve gone in the restaurant given someone Covid and killed him… this is what we are dealing with. This person considers him self very progressive, very liberal, very kind. He not care that his best friend, my husband, has a vaccine injury and that this now means he can no longer into a restaurant. These people won’t listen to anything.
Yes he does. He hasn’t even told his other closest friend about his vax injury as he can’t handle the gas lighting. These are 2 people he has been friends with since school who now refuse to see him.
My friends now are very like minded so right now my husband is sharing mine lol. Some are vaxed and don’t care if I am, others aren’t. I have had to love, but let go of a few this year.
Sorry to hear that. I had almost exact same conversation with my brother-in-law. Except he was saying it about me and my sons, claiming we we akin to waiving guns around in the air and restaurant and shop owner have the legal right to bar us. These are his nephews! All of us are unjabbed and have confirmed natural immunity. I haven't spoke to my sister for 4 months. Won't do until they apologise, and to be honest once they've expressed these totalitarian viewpoints I don't see any respect of goodwill returning ...even with my sister. Everyone's telling me to calm down and be reasonable. I'm flabbergasted. Lines have to be drawn and medical apartheid is one of them. On the bright side at least we're seeing who is a complete drone and how it's the minority that has any gumption.
It is just so sad all these things are happening. Yes it’s very well saying don’t let it divide us, but how can you stay friends or in the family of people who call us murderers and who would likely be fine with camps and forced jabs.
I continue to be flabbergasted that in the United States, that (usually) local governments and/or property owners have a legal right to require vaccination (a medical treatment) that in theory is an emergency treatment requiring voluntary informed consent; equivalently, that it is legal to refuse entry to a person who has not had a specific medical treatment. Are they really allowed to do all of that under a rubric of "public health?" Then why not flu shots? What makes Covid-19 special? I'll admit I don't know where public health ends and civil rights begin, but in the old days, I would think attorneys would have been all over the vaxx mandates, or at least the restrictions on freedom of movement, assembly or access to public accommodations. Where are the lawsuits?
Yeah topsy-turvy world. The UK courts have way instantly like a rotten structure. Apart from the ability to defer to the judge and have some wiggle room I'm amazed more hard and fast laws haven't been transgressed. I think they have, hence the "emergency government".
Yeah - tried that. Response "Its the unvaccinated silly". I really had to exercise my willpower to not pull out my hair. and to debunk THAT you need to go into SOME detail.
I want to know how the ceo of Pfizer can get on tv and say his vaccine hasn't caused one death? Even Greg Gutfeld a few weeks ago says not one person had died from any of these vaccines. How do they claim this???
Based on news reports from just over a month ago, CA Gov. Newsom suffered side effects from a booster. I haven't checked his credentials, but suffice to say he's a Progessive, elite snob popular enough to be elected at least once and survive recall in our most populous, ultra-liberal State. Obviously he had enough faith in the jabs to take the initial dose(s) + 1 booster. If a star like he drinks the kool-aid, it's likely quite a few more of the elite do, too.
I'm not a psychologist, but want to amend your definition. I believe it's largely correct except for the last clause. Sociopaths and the worse Psychopaths certainly do exist and sometimes commit atrocious crimes. But I want to emphasize the change from "often" to "sometimes". In fact it's more likely "rarely." Yes, these people are abnormal by the standards of the majority. But, for whatever reason, the vast majority of sociopaths and psychopaths conduct themselves more or less by the standards of the society that surrounds them. I suspect that most such "abnormals" indeed have quite good self-control, if for no other reason than they're well aware that, if they acted upon their base impulses, they would face severe consequences from the outside world.
The popular imagination would have one believe that anyone who is diagnosed as a psychopath must necessarily be an axe murderer a poisoner of his family, or some other awful creature. The unstated belief is that just because a person is capable of some barbarity, it necessarily follows they must so act. If this were true, we would be living in a Mad Max apocalypse.
I just listened to a Peak Prosperity podcast on mass formation and oh boy are we in one. In a nutshell 30% are true believers and the more absurd the story gets the more they double down, 50% know it doesn't really make sense but go along to get along and then around 20% see through it. We need to reach that 50%....
Excellent relevant video (under 18 minutes) with an excerpt from a lecture by Aldous Huxley at UC Berkeley in 1962 and brilliant accompanying cartoons:
Is your title a reference to the Metallica song of my adolescence, Alex? :)
Pandemia is fantastic. My mother actually picked up a copy out of curiosity while reading over my shoulder on a recent visit.
Your creative choice to present the material in a narrative, rather than journalistic or report style, is an excellent one- it dramatically increases the readability for people who wouldn't necessarily go into it already relishing lots of raw data and statements around things they already understand.
I believe its popularity WILL move the needle on public opinion. The Fauci book won't hurt, either.
I think this advice is spot on. While I’ve lost friends over this issue over the past 6+ months, I’ve noticed now that a couple of strong friendships with folks who don’t see eye to eye on this - are rising above it - and they’re are starting to wake up. They do not even ask me about this shot for my kids — they know where I stand, but they’ve seemed to loosen up / accept this logic now and our kids all play together unmasked and they’re either comfortable believing that they’re protected by their vax or they see that it makes no difference anyway. Whatever the case, I’m grateful that at least a couple of my friends are showing some capacity to question the narrative and are done with playing into this divisive nonsense! My heart goes out to all of those who have been bullied / injured or worse. Stay strong. ❤️
For many of us, this is one of the toughest things we have had to live through. It is painful to watch people who are smart enough to know better constantly turn a blind eye to the truth of what is happening. My entire profession of dentists in the US appears to be captured! We were lectured by our largest organization (the ADA) to not spread misinformation about masks or vaccines yet we are supposed to respect the critical design of scientific discovery???!! We were also told by the ADA that it is ethical to deny treatment to an unvaccinated person. I do not recognize this world we live in!
I continue to post on our state dental forum, in an effort to enlighten other providers....I feel like I am trying to move mountains :(
I’m so sorry. The same is happening with Nurse licensing Boards. Part of our job entails educating patients & being their advocates. I’ve been written up so many times for warning my patients about Remdesivir, I could wallpaper the entire ICU ‘Rona unit with them. My State Board is threatening loss of licensure for spreading “misinformation “ . The real science is on our side. I’ve requested the peer reviewed double blind studies proving Remdesivir is safe and effective. Crickets. Keep fighting!
Remdesivir is, along with the vaccine, highly "recommended" by Science HIMSELF
Dr. Anthony Fauci.
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SCIENCE HIMSELF 🤣🤣🤣. Great one!
Needs to be eliminated.
Bless you for this post! Made me literally laugh out loud, and I really needed to. Just the best. Thank You!
Lol yeah made me laugh out loud, too! 😂
Lol
I call him Dr. Falsey
Stealing that—fits him much better.
Lol Have at it!
Thank you. I heard Remdsivir was called, "Death is Near." Can you share the stats on its death rate with Ebola patients without actually talking about covid? And its link to kidney failure?
"However, remdesivir, a nucleotide analogue prodrug originally developed for the treatment of Ebola virus, was found to inhibit the replication of a wide range of human and animal coronaviruses in vitro and in preclinical studies."
Read "the real Anthony Fauci" by Robert Kennedy Junior. He has a whole charter about Remdesevir.
A must read! He’s our century’s Hitler.
Dr Mengele
Everybody should get the digital version of the book (2.99).
It is very helpful for understanding the present reality.
Everyone should buy the hard copy print version. Digital media can be censored. We all know the state is in favor of censorship. Plus we all need to support to few voices left in journalism who are actually trying to find out the truth about these vaccines and the monsters who wish to force us them on us or lock us up. Buy the full price hard copy. I bought two hard copies of Pandemia. And two hard copies of Robert Kennedys “Tony Fauci is a Monster.”
That's why I bought 2 copies of Pandemic from Amazon....I wanted them to know there are people out here who are seeking the truth. I also purchased RFK, Jr's book and I highly reccommend Scott Atlas's A Plague Upon Our House .... he exposes the groupthink and corruption of Trump's WH taskforce "trifecta" of Fausti, Birx and Redfield.
Infuriating to read, but excellent book!
Us too, pass them around. Can't bring to our senior community library as I'm sure it will disappear!
Chapter
I've just read the intro and first chapter and have already highlighted numerous points. It's dense and full of great information.
I listened to a doctor who is familiar with the adverse affects of Remdisivir. He said that, during the early stages of the ordeal, that when he heard from fellow doctors that patients in hospital were experiencing kidney failure, he knew immediately that Remdisivir was the cause. Apparently that's one of the common side effects of the drug, but doctors using it were unaware (we hope).
I doubt they were. Most MDs are crazy Jab Cultists.
Real America's Voice News is having a special on that tomorrow night (12/7) featuring two whistle-blower doctors in Michigan, and they specifically discuss Remdisivir.
First I've heard of Real America's Voice; thank you for the reference.
The Vaxx is a state-sponsored religion.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-vaxx-is-a-state-sponsored-religion
Wow. We appreciate your persistence and support your fight! (I'm sure at least some colleagues are just keeping their head down and saying nothing)
Heh. My dentist suffered neurological problems post-vax that left her worried she would be unable to continue her practice. Fortunately they did go away. But she will not be getting any boosters and could be fairly accurately described now as anti-vax.
That makes me sad for her. I am glad she is better!
Got a skeptical dentist here in the Bay Area.
Whoa, where?!
Can anyone confirm the adverse injection event Celine Dion is suffering from or is that just mis-info?
They will *never* say that's what caused it. It could have been the flu shot too. She may have gotten both on the same day.
who will ever bust that shield Pharma has of being untouchable for any and all injection adverse events? Seems like they are made of Teflon. Zero accountability. Real accountability that is...
Not an expert here, but pretty sure the EUA is blanket protection for all products, services and even layers of supply chain. "Vaccines" have the extra, separate protection. If and when any of their products go off EUA, e.g. get full approval, I assume that opens much of the chain to liability claims, but not the vaccine (maker) itself. Now if I were an attorney, I would be working day and night to find a way to prove in a court of law that the mRNA jabs are NOT vaccines...
Seem obvious they are not a vaccine to many. At best they lessen symptoms. Sure there is a spike in antibodies to the spike protein, but that is simply a immune response and the old definition of a vaccine was to provide immunity and not reduction of symptoms technically. Notice the definition was changed fairly recently to know reflect what these injections actually do. How could a lawyer not argue that manipulation?
True!
oh that would be interesting...
Silver lining.
Thanks ! You must be the needle in the haystack. Don't give up. We are almost there. The fortress is crumbling. A drop of water can make the bucket run over. One rock can cause an avalanche. And it is about to happen. Soon the hole dirty story is going to collapse and you will be the one that told them so. Thank you for that.
In Germany, the saying is "the drop of water makes a hole in the stone."
Keeping up the fight for truth!!
Beautiful comment-- so true 🥰
So propaganda works in other words. There is no point in trying to "convince" others. The important thing is to realize that you indeed haven't gone insane, stay open-minded yourself and other than that go about your day. Avoid Karens at all cost.
Good advice but this ADA lecture just came out to us. They are doubling down and NO ONE in dentistry seems to be taking notice. In what world do we deny treatment to a patient??!!
If you asked them if you were supposed to treat people with Aids, what do you think they would say?
I was in dentistry during the AIDS epidemic and it was unethical to deny treatment or to treat them differently than another patient. We are trained to treat all patients as if they are diseased, hence our strict sterilization protocols. This is why I am so disappointed in our profession...we're changing ethical practices just to keep up with the narrative.
Thank you Jessica for your insight.
I am a RN and also am experiencing crushing disappointment with my profession and the medical field in general for so many errors, so many times when we could have steered the public health response away from the panic, away from causing so much harm.
The issue that grieves me most is that the very people who were tasked with promoting and protecting informed consent killed it and then supported the punishment of patients who did not give consent.
This is unforgivable. I can’t let this go.
I totally understand! I love what I do but it is getting more and more difficult to be in a field of sheep.
I can’t let it go either, retired from pharmacy, it was bad in the past few years for many reasons, addiction, reimbursements etc, but this is so disturbing. Sad. Glad we’re out.
Same here. I'm retired now and I can't believe this. There is no way we could have denied treatment to an AIDS patient. I don't even think we could inquire about their HIV status.
^This is exactly right. Some of the genesis for HIPPA was because employers were asking about it, sometimes as a way to find out if someone were potentially gay. Sick then and sick now.
How things have changed!
There may even be a bit of irony in there: If the SARS-CoV-2 did come from a lab, which is quite possible, then any number of speculations become more likely. One of many is that the virus has inserts from the HIV virus. This is easily within the realm of possibility, perhaps even probability. Among the many (published) research tricks was making the virus more infectious in humans, so why not? I've skimmed some of the published SARS and GoF research and I believe HIV/AIDS virus experimentation is mentioned.
Sickening.
Or how about people whose teeth are wrecked because they choose to do drugs or eat sugar, or just don’t take care of their teeth? They’d never be denied treatment.
I would take this to a human rights (or similar type) lawyer and sue the ADA's ar**s for discrimination and gross negligence.
What is it with the ADA. Look how wrong and for how long they were with amalgam mouth fillings!
I mean we've always denied treatment to people who can't afford it, it is the American way :) . Just pretend the vaccinated people you don't like are unvaccinated behind their back to your colleagues or make up rumors that they told you they faked their vaccine card and you don't feel safe, you can deny people you don't like treatment to as well.
That's not precisely true, in the US it was possible to negotiate with a doctor for care. Not every doctor, but there were plenty who treated poor people and took a loss for it. Now with the federal government sticking its fingers in everything, there are places that refuse Medicare. That's a fail. The US government forced care at its prices and deprived doctors of discretionary charity.
Tell that to my overwhelmed RN spouse, who treats drug-seeking homeless people every single shift. Many of whom are in the hospital with vague symptoms and receive in-patient care for WEEKS. (It's super popular with the homeless population this time of year: free shelter, free food, and free opioids.
PS: guess how many of my wife's homeless patients are vaxxed?
I met a lovely Karen at a protest in front of parliament here in Melbourne. I hate this Karen thing. There are male equivalents of them too.
Yes, there are!
Thank you. I need reassurance. My family thinks I'm nuts.
You are not nuts! Stay strong, stay informed and pray that their eyes will be opened!
Don't give up. A wonderful quote from eugyppius: 'You should never do their work for them by despairing of an end'.
Trained medical professionals have to weigh the conflict between their medical knowledge and their well compensated livelihood. Initially it was an easy call because few of them had any training in epidemiology, beyond the basics, if at all, and relied on authorities to guide them. After two years of obvious failures, everyone with any medical training at all understands the failures of not only the vax, but of the authorities. So, now the tie breaker will be the integrity of individual practitioners. Many, if not most, are honest enough to speak up for ending the insanity. The tyranny will quickly collapse.
I have health professionals look me in the eye and tell me the jab is necessary. I know they are lying. As a former health professional, they know I know they are lying. Yet they continue to insult my intelligence with feeding me a line of bs.
They're desperate.
Unfortunately most health people don't know much about vaccines, either. They only learn how many to give. They don't know what is in it and except for a few, don't bother to read books on the topic. They all think vaccines work.
True....but it is our job to understand and offer informed consent. The Hippocratic Oath has been thrown out...
That is so true. Many doctors forgot about it. Vaccines can harm. The least a doctor could do is tell that. When I came to the US I was given 7 shots without a word. No one asked, no one even told me which ones it were! I was appalled. If I had known I might not have come LOL
Nothing is without risk. "Do no harm" is a great precept but in the real world the best we can hope for is "Minimize the risk of harm." As I already pontificated in a post above 🙂, yes each of those 7 vaccines had a risk, probably measured at one in several million each. It is also quite possible you would not have been allowed to remain in the USA unless you got those vaccines.
If you drive a car, you probably had training to do so, you are sober and wear a seat belt and don't drive like a maniac. All these improve your chances, but nothing can guarantee you won't be injured or killed on the road. But still, most of us take that chance many times a day without even worrying about it.
True. That is why I drive as little as possible.
Still, they could have told me these shots were mandatory, and which ones it were. I had almost all child sicknesses and natural immunity which is preferable. Several other immigrants told me they did not get them or only part of them. Luckily so far all I got is some mild allergies, that are probably not from that. Reading DR Suzanne Humphries book though, made me think of it again. There should be choice, like there is choice to travel or not to travel. I think the government should not interfere, and certainly not connect with pharmaceutical companies, to do that. I know the American government holds the patents to several vaccines. Your health should be your own responsibility (and it should be thaught in schools) and that of your doctor of choice. As to the do no harm rule, indeed, the best a doctor can do is.. do his best. NOT do what big pharma commands.
Beyond evil. I want to get out of nursing. Worked with a surgeon the other day who wants all unjabbed locked in our homes, like Germany.
Most doctors are total idiots. They can memorize things from a textbook that’s it. Most of them become callous and insensitive somewhere along the way. I work with a surgeon who proudly boasted in the Operating Room that he was able to get his two teenage sons vaccinated with Moderna months before any other kids under 18 had EUA access to the shots. I asked him “why would you do that!? Moderna has been outlawed in 7 countries for everyone under 30 due to risk of myocarditis. Only Phizer is given to kids in the US under EUA and even Phizer has a 1:5000 risk of myocarditis and has less than 2 months of safety data in kids. If you gave your kids 100ug of Moderna then you overdosed them by at least a factor of 3 compared to the kid dose for Phizer”. He turned to me and said “I had no idea you were an antivaxer! I don’t want you in my operating room any more. “
Really.
There are still smart, kind doctors out there with excellent bedside manner. But the average doctor is completely average which makes their advice completely untrustworthy.
That’s why you still read about doctors cutting off the wrong leg of a patient. Or doctors leaving sponges inside a patients body during surgery. Really.
These are the same doctors that tell your Remdesivir, decadron and intubation are the only approved treatments they can offer you for covid.
The dentist is not alone. There are MANY doctors who will not accept patients who are unvaccinated. Unbelievable, since it is well known by know that vaccines are non sterilizing. The vaccinated can catch covid, spread covid and carry more covid germs in their nasopharynx then the unvaccinated. UK data literally shows a pandemic of the VACCINATED. Using vaccination as a prerequisite for anything is completely unfounded.
You MUST be your OWN Heath care advocate! You can not trust the average doctor, the hospital administrators, the CDC and the FDA. Get your own medicine from a trustworthy doctor as an outpatient BEFORE you get sick. Have a Emergency covid medicine kit ready in your medicine cabinet. Stay out of the hospital by taking prophylaxis and early treatment. Use the FLCCC, McCullough, or the Tyson/Fareerd protocols.
Print out some medical journals that are relevant and leave them taped to your surgeons locker.
Back in my mid-20s I rented a room in a high school friend's house. His dad was a very intelligent (MS EE from MIT) but very eccentric. Mr. "Jones" was into alternative health (vitamins, etc.) Relevant to your post, one of his stories was that he'd tried to be the advocate for his mother when she was in the hospital. He was concerned that she didn't get the best forms of care. And this was back in the early 1980s. Mr. Jones used to say the "people go into the hospital to die." At the time, I thought it was hyperbole. But forty years on, I'm not so sure.😐
ThAnk you for sharing all of that!! I'm SO done with people calling the "UNvaxinated" anti-vaxers, simply for having common sense, a BRAIN, and using it to make probably the smartest decision ever made - staying awaY from these dangerously toxic jabs. My response to the Dr. Falsely SCIENCE HIMSELF (luvv that from another here) misinformation induced blind and mentality impaired now is - "You know it's noT a vaccine, don't you?" - and to "LOOK IT UP...and while you're at it, look anY of his claims up (just not on Google), and do a lil bit of research for yourself." It's all SOOO unnerving!!
Again, Thx for your share!! Wise, helpful info... : )
Only by some in the medical profession. I would prefer to say my colleagues see it as elastic-- works when the regulators/associations say it does and doesn't work when we are told it doesn't 🙄. Here in Toronto, our associations are very very political-- hence the shut the f#$$ up about vaccines.
That’s for sure!
So true-- I can remember one lecture
I hope you're correct...our profession seems to be doubling down its efforts to keep everyone masked and force vaxx'd.
That reveals their desperation. Like cornered animals, they'll become viscious, but they know they're cornered.
"Vicious." If they become viscous, they are probably a jellyfish. 🧐
Yes, I know my doctors are camouflaging the truth, simply because I have known them for so long and can read facial expressions and body language. I actually think it is painful for them. Then there are those that are vax zealots.
We're always saddened to learn doctors are human, too. We hope for wisdom, if not omniscience, but millions of their patients die every year, sometimes because of their limitations, but often because of their errors. Medical errors are not well documented for all the usual reasons, but it's considered by many to be 3rd or 4th highest cause of death in the US.
Patients have responsibilities, too. Among those is supervising our doctors who are our employees just like auto mechanics and cab drivers. We get better results if we know what they're doing.
3rd highest.
I see a couple specialists. Last week, my pulmonist. There was a new, tiny spot in my lung, but apparently nothing to worry about. I asked Dr. X if he'd seen an increase in business this year. I was digging for possible vax commentary. His answer was rather offhand, like "it varies". He is neither pro nor anti vaxx with me at least, he only asks if I've taken the vaxx.
I look forward to my next visit to my cardiologist. I hope to have a more sophisticated question to trip him up. 😈
Several nurses I know who have worked 20 years+ for a fairly large healthcare organization tell me the majority of those they work with MD's, Nurses etc choose to bite their lip to keep their job, not be ostracized or be targeted as spreading in reality TRUTH of these 2020 and beyond whu-flu measures put in place. Think about how much power and control the CDC, FDA and Big Pharma has over the heads of these people. Talk about mafia like coercion to silence these individuals
But the hospital systems aren't taking people for a car ride from which they never return...they're firing them. People have been injured, disabled, and died because of the willful ignorance and cowardice of these doctors and nurses. I have no sympathy.
We are what we do.
I had an appt with my surgeon (he has operated on me before) and his longtime PA. I like them both very much. He is a top surgeon at large hospital in a major city. My record clearly indicates that I am not vaccinated. I would have to test negative before any surgery, but that's it. I really wanted to inquire about the hospital vaccine mandate, but I didn't wish to put them in an untenable situation.
Did nurses get addicted to this "frontline heroes" thing and then when they got all this attention they kept going with it. The way some of these nurses would describe the scene at their hospitals they made it sound like they were medics on the front line administering morphine and taking off their dog tags when it reality they are nowhere near the ER or the Covid unit, they are just paper pushers but you would have no idea the way they describe it.
There are several hospitals near where I live so there are nurses everywhere and they keep this rona narrative going by stories of "perfectly healthy, maybe a little overweight, who one day is fine and the next day she is dead" story that my wife loves to share. There is always more to the story but I just let it be.
Someday soon you are going to see a press conference similar to this one below.
https://t.me/officialcharliewardshow/39874
My dentist isn't crazy...but my ophthalmologist is completely broken. My daughter has a history of childhood asthma and is currently flaring. She's been working with children and has been sick three times in the last six months after years of no issues. She's a young adult, so I have influence...maybe...but I can't force her to do anything. Finally, after a week of coughing despite the action plan, I convinced her to call her asthma doctor on Friday. The triage nurse told her that she'd have to get a PCR test (despite two negative antigens tests) before they would schedule an emergency appointment. I'm livid. Effing lunatics.
It's crazy! We operate on open mouths all day long and we have never asked a patient to test.
Did these doctors never think they would confront disease? Who goes into medicine thinking that? I’m livid too, just hearing this!
I can tell you with certainty, many are pushovers,pussies and wimps, and a few are stupid, 35 years dealing with healthcare, I apologize to the good ones.
Do these doctors realize that when something bad happens to their patients that is directly related to these injections who the grieving spouse is going to confront? Not some CEO of Big Pharma or Dr. Fauci, it is going to be the doctor or nurse who pushed it on them.
Eventually this pandemic is going to get exposed and like every big crisis there will be a collective excuse that gets everyone off the hook (What's good for Wall Street is good for Main Street). It will be guilt by association, a mass hysteria moment of history "We all got caught up in it" that nobody gets the blame.
Tell those excuses to a mom/dad that loses a kid or he has some massive heart condition that ruins his life. If a doctor/nurse pushed that on my kid and the end result was death, God forbid what I might do to this person.
These decisions are going to have dire consequences and already are ripping families apart and pitting us against each other (part of the Grand Plan of leftists)
Doctors and nurses are the ones that should be the calming factor when people come in and there head is full of illnesses they think they have after scouring the internet to find out what is wrong with them. Now the doctors are the ones scaring the crap out of people by fear porn. I'm better off just staying at home and do what I always do and use common sense.
If this virus is so bad, then why aren't there hundreds of people found dead in their homes instead of the hospital?
Thanks for the response and keep speaking out and challenging the narrative. I've pissed a lot of people off by just speaking facts and asking questions but it has been worth it because as time passes people are starting to see that I was right all along.
I should add that she is unvaxxed. I didn't have to say a thing. She wanted no parts of it, even though most of her friends got the jabs by choice. She's required to test weekly by her employer.
I'm so glad to have the dentist I have. He and I and his hygienists have been tearing the whole fraudulent-vaccine putsch to shreds since he was allowed to reopen June 2020. How is it dentists haven't required covid tests when they go mining one of the filthiest parts of our bodies? For me to get a spinal RF nerve ablation I have to get a covid test. Are dentists somehow supposed to be more immune than someone sticking a red hot needle in my back? I'm so glad I know this guy.
You're lucky and I hope I can find some more like minded dentists to approach the ADA with an open letter several of us have written.
No surprise to me that the dental profession is captured. These are the people who put mercury in our mouths for over 150 years and claimed it was perfectly safe, even while they required the unused paste to be treated as highly toxic hazardous waste and disposed of accordingly.
I can't even imagine what would happen if I brought this up on our forum....
Oh do it :)
So it sounds like the ADA would be ok with a dentist not treating someone with an infected tooth that could go to their brain. That would be nuts. We need new institutions. All of these institutions are captured by idiocy and when it comes to denying treatment, cruelty. Before treatment of any kind, I am inclined to ask my doctor/dentist their opinion on the vaccines first. Thank you for standing up.
I agree. I work with educators who should be able to read all the data and make different decisions. But, they don't. They follow like cattle going through the chute to their slaughter. Willingly and without fear trusting what happens at the end of that chute is good for them. I think it boils down to having a serious relationship with Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit in me is what makes me able
to see clearly the evil in all of this. Too many people don't have that and are blinded to truth. Even when it's right in front of them. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me.
Amen! So well said!
I just signed up with a new dentist in Virginia Beach on Friday, they’re outside my insurance coverage (Puerto Rico) so I’m going to have to pay out-of-pocket for all my visits including the first visit, a comprehensive one, that runs nearly $500. But that’s better than being injected with an experimental drug about which there is literally zero long-term safety and efficacy data.
That's not fair. There's at least a year's worth of safety and efficacy data, but most of it sounds rather unfavorable, to say the least.
I stand corrected! ;-)
You can't forget that Alex Berenson, came our far before The American Heart ❤ association against these vaccines trials.
What is the greatest fear for doctors in regards to the injections and mandates? Are you worried about losing your license, being ostracized socially and professionally, or is it just being part of the hive mentality. Doctors haven't been so bad for me but nurses are the ones that openly campaign for injections and they are really lacking in the evolution of data. The ones I have debated with are stuck in the first trimester of the pandemic and just suspended curiosity and accepted it as fact. Very confusing times for everyday people who looked up to doctors and nurses but now I view them in a different light and it will be hard to gain that trust again. Maybe it is a big business and its numbers that are important (quantity over quality) and not personalized care. So instead of listening they dispense drugs or injections and see more patients. It is good to hear that you understand what is taking place and speaking out you take a risk but you help people. This era will end sometime and there will be some psychological term to label it and the label will get everyone off the hook.
It’s mystifying. I work at a large teaching hospital. Roughly 80% of the Hospitalists(MDs) & RNs are vaccinated. We are trained to work with potentially deadly diseases, so, in January of 2020, the level of panic/fear exhibited by so many in my profession was just unnerving. I couldn’t understand it. As you noted, it continues unabated. Hospitalists are, in general, MDs that are happy to carry out whatever Admin tells them to. The surgeons are usually more independent but increasingly they too are taking the path of least resistance. My own doctor is a brainwashed Covidian. I wish I had an answer to your question. It’s sheer madness and, like you, I no longer trust the healthcare profession. Even without the mandate, I’m tempted to quit, almost every shift. I stay because I feel I can still do some good for my patients.
Please hold out. We need you now more than ever. Soon the vaxxed will get sick in larger numbers and there you will be and able to help those in need. Thank you for doing this.
We all need to get together to bulldoze the current system and start fresh, somehow
Yes. We need to stop the political game and have a government that works for the people again. We need the government to be completely loose from all commercial enterprises. We also will need them to be loose of party politics. I don't think I will live long enough, but who knows !
Have you noticed the plethora of commercials that are related to the medical industry and Big Pharma? I don't think I have seen a Coke or Snickers bar commercial in months and shouldn't we be seeing Nyquil commercials for the flu?
I am sure one of the first laws Trump signed was a restriction on pharma commercials. But who enforces that?
We should! But, as you noted, everything is Big Pharma. I’m on the lookout for commercials/public health announcements that list the warning signs of pediatric strokes... they want to condition the general public into thinking that kids have ALWAYS had strokes. It’s beyond evil. Our cardiac unit is full of young ppl, mostly men. Just unheard of to have so many young, fit men in the cardiac unit. Heart cells don’t regenerate. They scar. Heartbreaking. Literally.
When you see this happening what do the nurses say to each other? Are you quiet or are you alarmed? The narrative is kept alive by word of mouth because everyone knows a nurse. My wife knows a lot of nurses and they always have the story of "a healthy ____ old came in one day with covid and within ____ days they were dead.
Most of these nurses don't work in the ICU and they hear the stories from other nurses who probably heard it from some other nurse.
But when you see young people die and you know something is fishy do you just keep quiet because you know when you open up that Pandora's box you are in for it. Tons of paperwork, meetings with HR, one big hassle. Honestly, I can't blame you for not saying anything because if you have family your life will be upended but on the other hand your silence continues the charade.
Everyone has been cowardly in some way, myself included. It's the doctors that get me. I haven't had any bad experiences with them but the ones that I know on a personal basis are shocked that I would even broach the narrative with them. I will see these parents at youth sporting events and they give me that "how dare you question my authority, I am a doctor."
I'm not a doctor but I have a brain and I can read a spreadsheet and assess data and make my own conclusions. The research is overwhelming and the ironic thing is that it is out there, even on the CDC website, but they only look at the abstracts of research or the condensed versions of research that are summed up like talking points.
When people die due to this cowardice or bad advice there is going to be some heavy guilt. If I advised something I knew in my gut was wrong, I couldn't live with myself.
You are in a tough situation and you probably have mixed emotions on it all and just keep working at it and look to help people when you can and fight the system from within without losing your job in the process.
These are dark times for all of us.
I speak up. Most don’t. RNs & MDs remain silent, for the most part, bc they fear for their jobs & their licenses. I’ve been written up multiple times and my State licensing Board had me in the crosshairs for spreading “misinformation “. I have zero sympathy for the MDs & RNs who remain silent. It’s immoral. Patients depend on us. They trust us ( or did) . If everyone in the medical profession spoke up, this “pandemic “ would be over. I’m a flawed human being, just like everyone else. I don’t consider myself superior or in any way heroic for speaking out. It’s just the way I was raised, and my conscience won’t let me keep quiet. Silence might save one’s job, but it is soul killing.
What is your feeling about PCR tests? Everytime my kid has a sniffle, my wife immediately thinks its covid and wants to get them tested and I know if they do they are going to come back positive and then it is two weeks away from school and everyone at the school and community knowing my kid has covid when he doesn't.
I get tested every week to keep my job and it is a hassle but I'll do it to keep my job which I enjoy. I always taught my kids to tough it out and not be prone to invisible fear but I feel like they are falling prey to all this fear porn. It is just too much and it is everywhere and teachers are the worst, especially if they are Democrats. They are as crazy about Covid as nurses are.
IMO the PCR testing is the worst and should be avoided as much as possible. Like you, I can’t avoid it. My job requires it. I insist they swab my mouth, not my nose. The swabs are usually from China ( of course!) and they are sterilized with ethylene glycol, a known carcinogen. In addition, the swabs contain fibers & glass particles to “harden” them in order to cause micro-injuries in the nasal cavity so as better to grab onto any virus particles ( so they say. Some scientists liken the swabs to inhaling asbestos. Do a search on Duck Duck Go... you’ll find a wealth of solid info. Perhaps enough to convince your wife that the tests are to be avoided.
As for your job testing requirements, I recommend you insist they swab your mouth. Rinse immediately afterwards. You are still exposed to the EG but at least it’s further away from your brain stem, and you can rinse your mouth . Good luck! Keep fighting!
I have to deal with the VA and I can tell you unequivocally they refuse to treat me with anything not sanctioned by CDC or FDA. I've now watched four people die from the poison prick, and many "vaccinated" get sick. Many right after the "booster".
the VA is terrible. Until recently they killed many many dogs in needless experiments. They forbid family to bring herbal tea ! They are experimenting on patients. Therefor you can bring nothing from outside that might interfere with the experiment. Awful.
Indeed. I'm positive I've made all kinds of friends at the VA over the last couple years. I've been sending them links to Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Pierre Kory for them to review refusing hydroxy chloroquine and Ivermectin among other treatments. I'm sure they love me! 😉
Agree. I'm an RN but non compliant. Target on my back now
A dentist friend I WAS dating, called me paranoid for my vax resistance & beliefs. Yet, I had a discussion with him about the booster which led to him changing his mind about getting it. However, any thoughts I had as to the possibility of dangerous ingredients, green passports, eventual control of humanity with vaxes being the start etc. transhuminism was seen as PARANOID! It sure seemed he was hypocritical bc at the same time he was very ready to go into battle over our lose of freedoms in the recent 18 mos. Yet he refused to accept most of the other aspects of all this, and it actually made him a tad angry as if he wasn’t ACTING PROFESSIONAL by embracing the full picture (brainwashing by the ADA?). Also, I think bc underlying is his lucrative income and his undying loyalty to the medical profession from the last 40 years, along with in recent years the hijacking of critical thinking of medical professions due to corporate dominance. Practicing medicine is all an algorithm nowadays and seems to have led to his refusal to see it ALL being related or the ENTIRE picture.
Can someone please start a dating app for the unvaccinated? I’ve got two adult sons, 27 and 32, unvaxxed, (like myself), gainfully employed, handsome:), own their own homes, but have become lepers in our circle. This is so infuriating!!
Remember the meme, “ unvaccinated sperm is the new Bitcoin ,” in 2 years everyone will be banging on their doors, no app needed!
Scary, but funny. Soon those non injected men with have harems :)
Counting on this too for my son. 🙏🏻
Mine too.
Same
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Thanks for this - laughed out loud! I have 2 adult sons who will be very pleased to hear this!
Don’t worry. I imagine a time when finding an unvaccinated partner who wants to start a family will be a real concern. And then the few who remained unvaxxed will be in high demand. Speaking as a Mom who has an eligible daughter. 😀
dating is forever changed for certain
Thank you for having a few good men!! I wish them luck!!
Encourage them to get involved with a grassroots movement. If there isn't one, start one. As a 31 year old single woman I have no fear of finding someone when the time is right. I personally hate the idea of meeting someone through an app, although I understand why many feel that is their best option. This is more than an issue of vaccinated and unvaccinated. This is an issue of society being in a spiritual and communal crisis.
My daughter is only 12 and I am already thinking how hard it's going to be for her to find a nice man when she grows up. Now there is yet another requirement: he has to be unvaccinated! Shame your handsome sons are too old for her.
Widen your circle…
or change it altogether…
Or let your sons find their own mates
Real men thrive on the hunt & the chase
& real women appreciate being courted
EXCELLENT idea
Check out https://unjected.com/about-us
I like it.
You can do it!
Hi:)! This is the dating website for unvaxxed I found :
https://unvaxxer.com/
If you search "unvaccinated dating website" on the search engine "DuckDuckGo", this website comes up the first. If we search on Google, nothing comes up (of course...)
In general DuckDuckGo is the better search engine which doesn't truck you. And most importantly, it doesn't censor websites and manipulate the search results.(unlike Google!!)
(So after 2020, more and more good info is only on this search engine but not on Google, so I asked my husband to set it up as my main search engine. Probably your sons can do it for you:)!)
Thanks to your two wonderful guys to keep the organic human genes! I would worry for my kids too if I have any. I only subscribed in order to comment for this, haha;D
Sending lots of love to you and your family!
Did you just coin a new phrase, "Organic Human?" I love it. I can't wait to tell someone in the vaxx cult that, "I'm organic and you aren't haha. I am non-GMO and you aren't!"
But do they want to be part of that club? I would not.
"Can someone please start a dating app for the unvaccinated?"
No. We must not acknowledge such a flippant and disgusting bifurcation of our society. Embrace everyone. Don't falter.
Nothing flippant.
It's kind of a same thing as "Hmm, do I want the cow milk or powder milk /
GMO or Organic vegetables for my toddlers..?"at the supermarket.
In this dating context, toddler could be your future baby.
So, it's totally nothing disgusting. It's really up to individual's preference and freedom of choice, and dating is one of the most personal choices.
Great idea!!!
There was a dating app launched at the beginning of the rollout and the app stores banned them. If Google or Apple doesn’t approve you don’t have a business.
agreed!
I already know how they'll respond:
Vaccine efficacy fades over time, so I need to go get a booster.
How do you respond to that?
I carry a sharpie with me wherever I go. Sometimes I write "What the fuck is really going on?" in public spaces because I do think the best way to reach people is to ask questions. We can't provide answers that they'll reject, only ask them to start thinking critically.
Personally, I've found that not mentioning "Covid" or "pandemic" or "vaccine" is helpful. Those words trigger whatever spell they're under and they get defensive.
The issue Alex highlights here is the most important challenge we face today. What is the best way to wake someone up? For many of them, problems are ignored and the script kicks in. How do you break the spell and short circuit the script?
I've been thinking it's lists or compilation videos of athletes and children dying.
The compilation of athletes dropping on the field finally convinced my 15 year-old son. He had previously ignored the 30 or so articles I sent him.
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like this https://twitter.com/cdelvallejr/status/1458081676345630727
And we need these on platforms like odysee or bitchute. Twitter's new CEO is going to be shooting material like this down quickly.
Yes, this is good. I saw another one on twitter with news clips where the reporters kept saying over and over that the person suddenly died cause unknown, mostly young athletes. Can't find it now and search tools make them difficult to rediscover.
Great idea
When it comes to children I tell parents if they know how they will respond to the question there kids ask them in the future "Dad/Mom why did you have me vaccinated when I was a kid and now I can't _________. Whether or not if it is good or bad, they will spend their whole lifetime questioning whether or not they did the right thing. There will be a hysteria on every ailment moving forward if it is related to the vaccines and boosters (real or imagined).
For me, it is one less thing I rather not think of and I will go with what God gave me.
Good for you! Inspiring-- I think I have a few sharpies around 😊 Saw the phrase "Fauci is a criminal" on a Construction sign while stopped at a light two days ago. Its turned-- time for us to help it along .
Yes, indeed. Here's another idea: Write short messages or websites (e.g. nvic.org) on those little green pieces of paper we trade around in the marketplace. I do. I always enjoy giving them to merchants. What if we all did this?
I love that! Yes, I've been inspired by similar graffiti / messages scrawled in Sharpie all over the place. I think people need to know they are not alone, that we are out there, thinking the same thing.
That’s so right , they are ignited by those words like dogs when they know it’s feeding time. It must be from all the “ news “ they watch .
Use the word "injection" instead of jab. I also use the phrase "I rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned." It gets them thinking.
I LOVE that quote. I'm going to use it tonight.
Thanks, Ray!
I'm glad you liked it and the only way to get people to change the way they think is not by direct confrontation but just by planting the seed of doubt. Make them think (which people don't want to do these days) and they might come around. But when they do, it will be on their terms but you were the catalyst. It's a win-win for both sides.
We are still at the mass hysteria/political stage but it is starting to wane. The Omicron might be there last push because it is becoming white noise at this point.
Someday soon we might be hearing a press conference like the one below.
https://t.me/officialcharliewardshow/39874
Agree completely. They need to come to it on their own. Just asking questions is the best way to go.
defensive is right!….!aye caramba!
I just attended the funeral of my father. He was of advanced age but very healthy, jogging 2-3 miles per day. He was very intelligent and did his homework; he held out on getting the shot for nearly a year (he even introduced me to The High Wire).
His doctor finally convinced him to get the J&J in September. Last Monday night, he dropped with a sudden heart attack (clot) and was gone.
there is a lot of that going on and noone in major media circles is talking about. it. Im a doc and I have seen a lot fo vax injuries. I've been seeing auto immune problems in young otherwise healthy people
I hear about healthy 18 year-old boys getting their third mRNA shot and I have a hard time understanding how they could be so ill-informed and reckless
my medical colleagues practically clawed over themselves early on to get some of the first doses of this thing when it was released and offered to us from the local hospital where we have privileges. Everyone was in the "fog " of war kind of state. I am 53, im an ophthalmologist. I think that the reason I wasnt swayed or as scared of the whole thing is b/c i've pretty much been a libertarian since I was like 12 years old. Im part of this whole Mises/Rothbardian / Ron paul libertarian group. I grew up in a religious jewish home and had relatives from POland /russia and Austria who emigrated to the US in the early 1900s and after but left a whole contingent of cousins back in Europe who will all gassed by Nazis. I pretty much dont believe or trust ANYTHING
governement says....I read ALL the studies and literature about the mRNA vaxes. There was NO representation by Pfizer that this vax would prevent spread and transmission BUT somehow the thing was marketed and propagandized to us that it would... that you were doing some kind of patriotic duty to get the vax when in fact it was purely selfish act of self protection. I spoke with a few of the docs at my local hospital medical executive committe and I offered my dose of the pfizer shot to my older semi retired medical colleqgue and they refused to let him have it. that left a bad taste in my mouth. So I deferred the vax and then I got natural covid in August 2021. I am recovered without any problems. This local hospital has now SUSPENDED my privileges and will revoke them at the end of dec 2021, if i dont get the jab. I appealed for an exemption and it was denied. Me and many others got together and are suing.
read this story about another doc ( with no legs) who worked for the hostpial and was FIRED
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1chh4g339FYHY968Srpdrfk1-wpIY-JrS/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NGyzWHP_qtH5qpEivUOFHUkXo7lbm-zP/view?usp=sharing
While I myself am libertarian and was aware of the corrupt ruling class, I never would have thought they could be this level of corrupt.
We should never underestimate mankind's capacity for corruption.
Its a new level of depravity isn't it?
I disagree. Pfizer said 95% efficacy in not getting covid (8 vs. 162) in their first set of studies that led to the EUA. If you cannot get it, you do not spread.
No they said 95 percent effective in REDUCING SEVERE ILLNESS AND DEATH. There was no assertion that the jab would prevent infection or transmission. It was hoped that the shots would prevent transmission. But the initial study was not set up to show that and there was no evidence for that. And anyway if your risk of death or severe disease is 0.2 and a vax reduces that risk by 95 percent ( we now know the effectiveness is much less) then the ABSOLUTE RISK REDUCTION ; reducing a risk of 0.2 by 80 percent is less than 1 percent. SO it makes no sense for ANYONE except the at risk to get this vax
No, even successful vax (these are not) does not prevent infection, nor retransmission. It only accelerates immune response to kill the pathogen, usually before the inflammatory reactions kick in. Vaxed people may be contagious for a shorter time than those with weaker immune health, but can still spread their viral passengers until they kill them. And vax doesn't provide an impenetrable shield to anyone. Those with weak immune health have less response to the vax just like they do with the pathogen. The 95% commercials are averages for a specific set of subjects. Unlikely it applies to you.
The data was derived from participants on a trial that wasn't properly blind (Look up images of Moderna arm) where corrupt practices are alleged to have gone on, such as data falsification. Out of approx 40 000 results were based on how many chose to ring in their symptoms and whether or not the investigator chose to test them. The 8 vs 162 is likely to be BS too.
The endpoint was to prevent symptomatic Covid.
I don't put much faith in those studies. I can understand why ethics forbid "challenging" test subjects with the true virus. But if they don't do that, how can they possibly make any claims about efficacy? Perhaps there's some logic, but it escapes me. What they essentially claim is that in (say) six months, a certain # of people did or did not catch the virus. Very well, but there is no assurance the virus was there to be caught! This sounds about as rational as if I were to claim my magic amulet has protected me against Ebola all my life; missing from the argument is that Ebola is rather rarely encountered in the USA.
oh gosh, that's sickening! He was a medicine-injury baby and they gave him no truck. Arthur Caplan "it's a tough case" ...No it effing isn't!
I don't know how long this can last for... at least within the US you can head to the South East and sanity. Governors there protecting you much more.
Hold the line. The federal courts put a hold on the CMS hospital vaccine mandate making it no longer enforceable on any healthcare provider or employee. I’ve heard that hospitals in Texas, Ohio, flordia have sent out emails to all their staff announcing they can no longer enforce a vaccine mandate. Hang in there. Hang in there.
Stay strong and make them fire you. Then give Harmeet Dhillon a call, or maybe Simone Gold.
Wow, Dr Saunders story is so inspiring.
I'm not libertarian, but the thing that initially saved me from this was lack of trust in government and media.
This is going to be a complete disaster for high trust societies and people.
Yes, but we have to remember this and not let them off the hook. We need to put people in jail and enact laws to break up the cabals.
I can remember the enthusiasm and hope I felt in 2008 when Ron Paul made his presidential bid. So many young, energetic people came flocking into the "Grand Ole Party".
I thought to myself, "All we got to do is show people his speeches and how on target he is concerning our foreign policy, endless undeclared wars and budget shenanigans and he will beat the pants off all these Rhino's in the primary!"
I canvased, I recruited, I maned the phones... and ... and.. well, I ended up being VERY DISAPPOINTED in the reactions from so-called "conservatives" I knew. You would have thought I was trying to talk them into buying a bridge in New York. They would literally look at me and say, "Ron Paul? That guy is a nutcase!" If only they could have seen what was coming. If you want to see insane, look where we ARE NOW!
I am with you, MiFly, in being a libertarian - though I came to it far older than 12 - so I have a bit of distrust in government at all times. Nonetheless, I always trusted vaccines. I have gotten every vaccination (except for the flu shot) at every stage of my life. But I also happen to be a fainter. I faint with nearly every injury no matter how minor. I faint every time I get a needle in my arm. When I saw that woman on TV who was one of the first people to get vaccinated and she fainted, my gut instinct said "hold up." So I went into a holding pattern, thinking I'll just wait and see. When It turned out that woman likely died (though nobody can seem to verify her death for certain), I moved a little more into the anti-vaxx camp. But I could still have been convinced to get it. Fortunately, I work for myself so I don't have any work mandate issues so I could just wait. And now, I wouldn't get that shot for a million dollars. The only way I am getting the shot is if they take me by force - and I'll go down fighting.
I would choose to take a bullet in the arm over the poison. At least you can get the bullet taken out.
I saw a video of Dr. Zelenko who said eye Drs. are the ones who can make a difference in & be whistleblowers so to speak bc they are seeing that ppl who’ve been vaxed have changes in the vessels of their eyes. I forget now exactly the details of what he said. But he said you all have evidence that is not so easy compared to other medical fields bc the eyes are a body part that shows the difference wherein I guess the other areas of body the damage is too microscopic to show.
As far as I know there has been no know reported specific ocular disorders from covid or the vaxxes
Do you use hi tech equipment that allows to look microscopically for damage in the eyes? It seems Dr. Zelenko is quite savvy, so wonder what he meant or if he was wrong?
That is exactly what my Russian, Belarusian and LIthuanian friends say as well.They laugh at the what we here in the West think is a hard slog. It has been educational and incredibly supportive to hear what they do to get around things and how they view authority. Love them 🥰
I always viewed doctor as intelligent, well-read and curious. When rona hit all those descriptors who thrown out the window because their minds closed to anything that didn't tow the company line. Doctors were always forthcoming and honest before rona but once it arrived they were either silent or pro-vaccine with no gray area. They didn't want to answer questions about HQ or Ivermectin and they didn't give you honest calming advice (99.9 chance of survival, don't worry about it).
I had this feeling that doctors were experiencing this "Big Brother/Big Pharma" power over them and they were told to not question anything (wink,wink) and just read the script.
Strange times indeed.
Ill-informed and reckless, how about parents bringing in their healthy 5-year olds for a shot?
Or how about a f$$#^%ng PRIME MINISTER of a country-- Canada doing a PSA speaking directly to 5 years olds saying " I bet you are excited to get your shot". I am NOT kidding you-- google it. 😳
I saw that. Horrifying.
That's completely insane.
They want freedom and live in the moment. An eye toward a future of debilitating illness or death is not on their radar.
For children it's a more natural assumption that the adults and people in charge know what they're doing.
Speaking as a man who was once an 18-year-old, I can assure you that being ill-informed and reckless comes with being that age. I made many poor choices in those years, but happily mRNA roulette was not on the list.
Many other drugs have been pulled far more quickly and with a smidgen of the injuries we've seen with this shot.
yes thats true. I was never vaxxed and neither were my teen kids. Anyone who is not at risk doenst need this thing . Those who are pushing it are reckless and criminally irresponsible
I've been waiting to see evidence of auto immune issues in the press... but I guess all the clotting issues are taking precedence (and happening faster)
Also what types of auto immune issues in particular are you seeing????
My little sister (turning 30 this month ) is having MAJOR kidney issues- The "experts" can't figure out what is wrong with her. She has had both shots not sure about the booster. Her work required the V. Curious now about this being a side effect.
MiFly, a friends A1C went out if normal range for first time 7.5. I wondered if it was from the vaxes?
Sharon, you might want to check out Steve Kirsch and his experiences with controlling his diabetes post-vaccine
Do you recall the time reference he referred to his diabetes or would I need to listen to many of them?
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/my-insulin-requirements-skyrocketed
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/my-insulin-requirements-skyrocketed
Very sorry. While you'll never know 100% that the shot did this, my money would be on - Yes, the shot did this. I know 2 men, one was 55 (suddenly died at home) and one 70 (suddenly collapsed, couldn't be resuscitated). I am very suspicious.
I agree. I know tons about the mRNA but not so much about the JnJ - I suppose it causes spike proteins throughout the vascular system?
The "difference" between the mRNA shots and the J&J (AAV Adeno Associated Virus Vector) - is actually not very much. The J&J delivers double stranded DNA (dsDNA) to a human cell. The DNA is transcribed to make the resulting mRNA. And from there, you know the rest. J&J is just a different way of achieving mRNA inside a human cell.
There may be more differentiating factors (for example, is the resulting mRNA optimized to last longer in the human cell? Honestly, I don't know...) but you've got the main gist of J&J in the above paragraph.
Thanks for the information.
I waited for JnJ too, but it has PEG in it so I decided I did not need it. The mRNA was totally out of the question. (they have PEG too)
So sorry for your loss.
When will these health professionals be sued for murder? I understand immunity from civil liability but if there was immunity from criminal liability…well, it would be a blood bath. Not sure how long med providers will keep this “golly gee I wonder what caused it?” attitude with no repercussions.
Also, my condolences on the loss of your father.
I'm not a lawyer, but as I understand US law, the burden of proof for criminal law is much stricter than civil. Now don't misunderstand me: I am by no means approving of the entire disinformation campaign for the vaxxes (I won't call them "vaccines") Nor am I happy that they are administered without the ethical if not legal requirement to obtain fully informed consent of the patient, and of course, that would forbid them being mandated under any circumstances. And yes, if even ten percent of what we read here, on in Alex's book, is true, then the entire medical and government profession is probably guilty of incompetence, cover-up, conspiracy or some such. But "murder" is a rather dire charge. To prove that, you would need to prove that one or more individuals deliberately intended to harm or kill one or more persons. Consider the fact that nearly all medications, including "good" vaccines, invariably will cause harm in (hopefully) a very tiny fraction of cases. Now, it's probably true the vaxxes have rates of injury ten or a hundred times worse than the best vaccines. No sane justice system would charge an MD with (most likely) manslaughter if a vaccine resulted in one death in a million, even if it could be proven the vaccine was at fault. I doubt a much better case could be made even if a vaxx is killing one in 10,000. Even a lesser charge like manslaughter or negligent homicide, you would need to prove gross disregard, reckless endangerment, negligence, and so on. This would be especially difficult if, as is true so far as I know, the vaxxes do in fact have positive protective effects.
Ok…you do have a well thought out point. Ultimately, it is a matter of informed consent and a personal choice. It’s the “mandate” or “compulsory” I have the problem with. Thanks for typing your thoughts
I follow a German doctor on twitter who vaccinates older patients with j&j, but tells them to use blood thinners afterwards for a few weeks.
That’s very telling.
That's tragic. To see someone so healthy and fit die like that, especially your father! Do you think it was the shot? He had no heart trouble prior? I'm so sorry.
Thanks. He was pretty damn healthy. I have his garmen watch which showed he was jogging at least 2 miles daily until 11/24
I don't know what to say except that I'm really sorry.
So sorry for your loss!
I'm so sorry. :(
I am so sorry ... this is terrible.
Oh I'm so sorry.
I am so so sorry for your loss.
I am so sorry for your loss 😞
Sorry for your loss friend. The pressure is intense and for older people who watch tv they just sort of buy into it.
Thanks - when I said I thought it was the shot, the response was that it was "weeks ago" and could be the cause
I know someone that died following the JNJ shot. He was in bad shape when they gave it to him, and went into a coma within 24 hours and died a few weeks later. His doctor deflected and said the patient was in bad shape to start with, and if it was the shot the reaction would have been within the first 2 hours. No matter how close the reaction is to the shots, there is incredible pressure not to link it.
So technically it did save him from dying of COVID? It sounds like it worked.
It sounds like "to save this village we had to destroy it".
yes - but they will probably say it was COVID anyway
The same goes for masks. And lockdowns. And social distancing. I’ve said this to a few people. If they worked so well, why aren’t they working?
I gotten the response that people aren't following the rules and aren't locking down/masking properly. Lockdowns/masks would work if people just followed the rules.
That could be why the unvaxxed are being blamed for covid cases. If only the unvaxxed would get vaxxed then covid would end. However, a lot of people do start to doubt that the unvaxxed are the cause when when there is a 90% vax rate, a vax pass and lots of covid cases.
A former friend said just that - masked improperly and that does not help. Then she told me she had trouble breathing and now and then lifted the mask (that you are not supposed to touch once you wear it). I had a hard time keeping a straight face.
My favorite mask when I HAVE to wear one (like on airplanes) https://fakemaskworldwide.com/
Gibraltar has 100% of its adults vaxxed and they have just canceled Christmas, because the numbers are too high.
It's funny. The more sunscreen has been used in our society, the more skin cancer there is. I've heard some dermatologists explain this is because "people don't wear sunscreen properly".
Which is true! If you're at the beach, you have to cover every inch of your body with sunscreen every 2 hours. Miss a spot? Get burned. Forget to reapply in time? Burned. The fact is sunscreen is almost impossible to use properly. It gives one a false sense of safety.
Since I stopped completely relying on sunscreen, I haven't had a burn. I just take it easy, sit in the shade a little, sit in the sun a little, wear a hat & long sleeves sometimes. I'l wear some on my face for when I swim and that's it. I've learned my limit, and get out of the sun before I get anywhere near a burn.
Masks are sort of the same. I mean, I don't think they're ever effective ... but to wear one "properly" is nearly impossible. Products that are impossible to use properly are ineffective.
Glad you found out ! And most sunscreens contain dangerous products. Check out all the ingredients is good. NOT using them is even better, just the little like you do.
I have been using coconut oil instead and with good results. Can also be used on dry hair. Can be eaten LOL. A beauty product that can not be eaten is not a good one !
I'm working up to no sunscreen. I used to be a believer, so much so that I wore it even when I was't going outside. Totally brainwashed. So I don't fully understand my limits. Each summer for the past three I've been experimenting.
That being said, I go for mineral sunscreen on my face, not the chemical stuff. Still, I think that's bad, too! We need unfiltered sunlight and lots of it.
The brainwashing ended when I started following and reading Dr. Mercola. That guy has really changed how I take care of myself.
Ask them -- really ? can you tell me how?
Those in my sphere still blame it on those unvaccinated. If only everyone was vaccinated, then they’d work. Sigh. SMDH
Hell, If everyone would just stop eating, then I would lose weight ! Damn Them !!
OOOH I have to remember that one next time someone blames my being overweight LOLOL
My only question to the vaxxed is..."You are vaccinated, right, Then WTF?" Leave me alone !
See that is just it. They blame the unvaxxed. But if they believed their vaccination worked, why don't they just go on living? What does it matter that we are not? Since they are protected??? or not??? I just can't stop laughing at their own stupidity. And I told a few. They are pissed but they need me !
Fauci literally said that yesterday- the unvaccinated are infecting the vaccinated. Yes, he said that.
But he does not listen to his own preaching. LIke so many preachers !
You have just identified a core flaw in any irrational belief system, whether it is called "religion" or "public health." If a human-created philosophy or other set of beliefs is not an accurate model of reality, no amount of cancelled speakers, dismissed professors, censored authors, ostracized citizens, nor unfavored people denied basic rights, fired professionals, nor intellectuals sent to the camps or shot, will make the slightest difference. It's been tried many times throughout history. Sadly, given human nature, it is still being tried.
The smug are going to cling to that story until it is pried from their cold hands.
Yep
That's so funny, my uncle says both of these things! At least he did back when we were talking...😏
I’m from Ireland - over 90% vaxxed. Cases out of control. I’m still getting questioned on my (un)vax status and waiting for the tide to turn...
Stay strong.
A few hundred years from now, archeologists will dig up millions of needles and will come to the conclusion that at this time people were worshipping a needle god.
Great point re: religion. When people are fearful they turn to religion-- no difference here. Hence Pope Fauzi (my Dutch friend calls him)
I come from a farm so know all about sheep. People are easy going so on a personal level very accepting (unlike some N.Y. friends!) but like NY you can basically only go to the supermarket if you’re unvaxxed. However the sentiment was more let’s just get it so we can move on (and the EU travel cert). They had been locked down for 5 months this year (in addition to 2020)
And they are planning on doing it again ! The belgian paper just reported they need to have sharper measures again. The comments though are very mixed. There are still some who think it does not go far enough and want to starve the unvaxxed, but more and more say hey, it did not help the former time. Why do you think it will this time? Lots of businesses have already gone down the ditch and this time it will be even more. 88 % vaccinated, never had this many sick and dead. You would think they look at the graphs!
They will find a scrapegoat for sure. They might insignate that newborns can now crawl over the floor and infect the people around them. Nothing too weird for these people. They already blame the under 5 year olds now.
Right. The U.K. and Ireland are very similar in their case trajectories but Ireland has taken a more strict approach (presumably for EU appearance sake) whereas the U.K. is taking a more endemic view and prioritising living and the economy
If you’re the ‘thinking person’ in your social group, you’re also the one no longer receiving social invitations. So not much of a chance to have that chat, unfortunately. They’re simply too invested at this point; they can’t ‘un-vaccinate’. 🤷🏻♀️
Time for a new circle of friends. They’re out there.
Already found them !
🙂
Schadenfreude. A German word. There is no English equivalent. It means deriving pleasure from the suffering and/or misfortune of others. Not a very wholesome notion to embrace admittedly but there are times like these that it is hard to resist at least a measure of this given the way those of us who choose to pass on the so-called vaccines are pilloried and ridiculed and hectored because we/they resist getting jabbed with this stuff. So when one hears about a fully vaccinated person who got the booster shot and who wears a mask all the time while constantly virtue signally how wonderful and responsible he/she is but who nevertheless becomes infected with The SARS2 virus, I readily confess that I get a chuckle when I hear it. Call me a less than a wonderful person for this admission but as Dr. Samuel Johnson once said “It is a virtue to acknowledge the truth even if the judgment falls on your own head.”
I am the same way. But I would NEVER ever ever push my view on whether to be jabbed or not on anyone. As a medical professional or as a friend. It is THEIR life. I only ask that I be treated the same. Freedom of choice on how to treat my health and how to live my life. If any "authority" in society feels my or others choices are dangerous-- prove it to me or as Socko the puppet (Beau Burnham) says "or get the fuck out of the way"
It is good to be honest. This is what everyone feels. I think that schadenfreude is amplified by isolation though. When you meet someone in person you disagree with who suffers, you're more likely to feel compassion.
The hallmark of the intelligent mind is to see things flat on without any hagiographical squint. Those who get sick with the virus despite taking every precaution and recommendation proffered by the pseudo-cognoscenti but who then sober up and realize that things are not what they have been told are people I can sympathize with and have no proper quarrel. However, if the same people continue to insist that they still possess the gnosis about this disease, I would laugh at them to their face.
The English equivalent is sadism.
It is not an equivalent because sadism involves actually inflicting the pain whereas schadenfraude doesn’t involve any interaction with the sufferer.
So, vicarious sadism...
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It's not one-size-fits-all. For example, I would feel pity for an animal or person suffering due to no fault of his own. I would feel less (perhaps no) pity for a person who brought suffering upon himself if he had been warned of the risk and/or should have known better. Even the Old Testament has this concept about judgments: "...they have brought it upon themselves." Finally, there is the darkest form: to impose actual cruelty upon a victim, be it justified punishment or retribution or just plain evil sadism. Or even to vicariously enjoy such maltreatment. At the other, and perhaps happier extreme, is the Christian (?) saying, upon seeing a misfortune: "There but for the grace of God, go I."
As you can see, to feel pleasure/happiness/delight upon the suffering others covers quite a wide range of ethical ground.
Carol was talking a our opposing medical tyranny. Motive is irrelevant. During a fight we don't have time to sort all that out. They started the fight, they'll pay the price.
Unfortunately a new generation of kids believe in the god that failed. In my k-8 school my students often police themselves on masks and proudly suffer their post-jab “colds” and stare at me in disbelief whenever I speak heresy. Do most parents have the will to change when it takes knowledge to stand against both the high priests of covidianism — namely the politicians who will never admit error and the public health and medical/pharmaceutical establishment whose credibility is at stake; and against the wannabe priestly class, the everyday manager or bureaucrat such as a school board or superintendent, busybodies who keep selling the fear like sunglasses at dusk. Knowledge has been kept from the common people and the children. Most people in my travels do not seem to know or care what happens in Australia or the UK or in Israel. If it doesn’t show up in their feed or “for you” page it doesn’t exist, and if the governor tells you your job is gone because of the pandemic, well, most shrug. There is a pervasive hopelessness more dangerous than any respiratory virus. Just end the testing, end the fear, end the hegemony of the public health industrial complex. For me it all goes back to the redefinition — not of “vaccine” (although that is damning) — but the redefinition of what a “case” is. If it’s not a sick person, if it’s merely a positive PCR test — it’s not worth much.
No they don't. For my boomer parents, if it isn't on NBC Nightly News or in David Leonhart's column, it didn't happen. They are going to boost themselves into oblivion.
I agree, lets stop this "generation of X believes"-- nothing is monotlithic or homogenous-- lets stop making camps of differences! Lets find similarities between and within these groups that society LOVES to make.
Good point. The perspective I offered is from within education where the indoctrination is pervasive. Even among, as so many have pointed out, really smart people — who seem to have abandoned standards of critical thinking because “everything changed.”
My husband who is vax injured after the first shot , got refused entry to a restaurant yesterday even with an exemption. He told his friend about what happened and his friend said good. He said that a two teir society is acceptable right now. He said that my husband could’ve gone in the restaurant given someone Covid and killed him… this is what we are dealing with. This person considers him self very progressive, very liberal, very kind. He not care that his best friend, my husband, has a vaccine injury and that this now means he can no longer into a restaurant. These people won’t listen to anything.
Your husband needs a new best friend.
Yes he does. He hasn’t even told his other closest friend about his vax injury as he can’t handle the gas lighting. These are 2 people he has been friends with since school who now refuse to see him.
Sad indeed, but find new like minded friends, it’s what’s best for your mental health right now.
My friends now are very like minded so right now my husband is sharing mine lol. Some are vaxed and don’t care if I am, others aren’t. I have had to love, but let go of a few this year.
Sorry to hear that. I had almost exact same conversation with my brother-in-law. Except he was saying it about me and my sons, claiming we we akin to waiving guns around in the air and restaurant and shop owner have the legal right to bar us. These are his nephews! All of us are unjabbed and have confirmed natural immunity. I haven't spoke to my sister for 4 months. Won't do until they apologise, and to be honest once they've expressed these totalitarian viewpoints I don't see any respect of goodwill returning ...even with my sister. Everyone's telling me to calm down and be reasonable. I'm flabbergasted. Lines have to be drawn and medical apartheid is one of them. On the bright side at least we're seeing who is a complete drone and how it's the minority that has any gumption.
It is just so sad all these things are happening. Yes it’s very well saying don’t let it divide us, but how can you stay friends or in the family of people who call us murderers and who would likely be fine with camps and forced jabs.
I continue to be flabbergasted that in the United States, that (usually) local governments and/or property owners have a legal right to require vaccination (a medical treatment) that in theory is an emergency treatment requiring voluntary informed consent; equivalently, that it is legal to refuse entry to a person who has not had a specific medical treatment. Are they really allowed to do all of that under a rubric of "public health?" Then why not flu shots? What makes Covid-19 special? I'll admit I don't know where public health ends and civil rights begin, but in the old days, I would think attorneys would have been all over the vaxx mandates, or at least the restrictions on freedom of movement, assembly or access to public accommodations. Where are the lawsuits?
Yeah topsy-turvy world. The UK courts have way instantly like a rotten structure. Apart from the ability to defer to the judge and have some wiggle room I'm amazed more hard and fast laws haven't been transgressed. I think they have, hence the "emergency government".
It’s a fear of “being seen” on the wrong side of the narrative. You can guarantee if Trump was mandating them, they would be all over it.
Wow
Yeah - tried that. Response "Its the unvaccinated silly". I really had to exercise my willpower to not pull out my hair. and to debunk THAT you need to go into SOME detail.
Those might've been the people that will never be convinced, no matter how much evidence or reasoning you present - the cultists.
Tried that with my sister-in-law. It still didn't sink in. One of Eric Hoffer's True Believers.
Let her go-- don't waste your time.
I want to know how the ceo of Pfizer can get on tv and say his vaccine hasn't caused one death? Even Greg Gutfeld a few weeks ago says not one person had died from any of these vaccines. How do they claim this???
Lies are the new facts.
I bet Bourla I think that’s his name didn’t get the vax. It’s for thee but not for me!
Based on news reports from just over a month ago, CA Gov. Newsom suffered side effects from a booster. I haven't checked his credentials, but suffice to say he's a Progessive, elite snob popular enough to be elected at least once and survive recall in our most populous, ultra-liberal State. Obviously he had enough faith in the jabs to take the initial dose(s) + 1 booster. If a star like he drinks the kool-aid, it's likely quite a few more of the elite do, too.
Sociopaths too!
I'm not a psychologist, but want to amend your definition. I believe it's largely correct except for the last clause. Sociopaths and the worse Psychopaths certainly do exist and sometimes commit atrocious crimes. But I want to emphasize the change from "often" to "sometimes". In fact it's more likely "rarely." Yes, these people are abnormal by the standards of the majority. But, for whatever reason, the vast majority of sociopaths and psychopaths conduct themselves more or less by the standards of the society that surrounds them. I suspect that most such "abnormals" indeed have quite good self-control, if for no other reason than they're well aware that, if they acted upon their base impulses, they would face severe consequences from the outside world.
The popular imagination would have one believe that anyone who is diagnosed as a psychopath must necessarily be an axe murderer a poisoner of his family, or some other awful creature. The unstated belief is that just because a person is capable of some barbarity, it necessarily follows they must so act. If this were true, we would be living in a Mad Max apocalypse.
Exactly
I just listened to a Peak Prosperity podcast on mass formation and oh boy are we in one. In a nutshell 30% are true believers and the more absurd the story gets the more they double down, 50% know it doesn't really make sense but go along to get along and then around 20% see through it. We need to reach that 50%....
Excellent relevant video (under 18 minutes) with an excerpt from a lecture by Aldous Huxley at UC Berkeley in 1962 and brilliant accompanying cartoons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caCkMX6YdYU
Is your title a reference to the Metallica song of my adolescence, Alex? :)
Pandemia is fantastic. My mother actually picked up a copy out of curiosity while reading over my shoulder on a recent visit.
Your creative choice to present the material in a narrative, rather than journalistic or report style, is an excellent one- it dramatically increases the readability for people who wouldn't necessarily go into it already relishing lots of raw data and statements around things they already understand.
I believe its popularity WILL move the needle on public opinion. The Fauci book won't hurt, either.
Well done.
I think this advice is spot on. While I’ve lost friends over this issue over the past 6+ months, I’ve noticed now that a couple of strong friendships with folks who don’t see eye to eye on this - are rising above it - and they’re are starting to wake up. They do not even ask me about this shot for my kids — they know where I stand, but they’ve seemed to loosen up / accept this logic now and our kids all play together unmasked and they’re either comfortable believing that they’re protected by their vax or they see that it makes no difference anyway. Whatever the case, I’m grateful that at least a couple of my friends are showing some capacity to question the narrative and are done with playing into this divisive nonsense! My heart goes out to all of those who have been bullied / injured or worse. Stay strong. ❤️