Last Saturday morning I posted a short post with a very simple chart - two lines in all.
One line tracked the number of weekly deaths per 100,000 vaccinated people aged 10-59 in England. The other tracked the number of deaths per 100,000 unvaccinated people in England. The chart showed that vaccinated people in this age group were dying overall at a higher rate than unvaccinated people.
I’m never exactly sure which posts will “land” - gain traction and go viral. This chart landed. Hard. Someone wrote me that it broke the Internet. It didn’t break the Internet, only Kim Kardashian’s ass can break the Internet, but it has rocketed around ever since. It has been seen over 800,000 times on this page alone and many millions more in screenshots and Twitter posts elsewhere.
Clearly, the reason the chart has gained so much attention is that it quickly and simply provides a way for people who are concerned about the vaccines to provide apparent visual proof that they are increasing all-cause mortality - overall death rates.
The chart has also engendered a fierce backlash from the usual fact-checkers and vaccine fanatics who say it is - wait for it - “misinformation.” (To be clear, I didn’t actually create the chart, but I checked the underlying British government report to make sure it accurately represents the report’s figures. It does, as everyone agrees.)
The “fact-checkers” have two primary complaints about the chart.
The first is that the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups are not exactly the same. A smaller percentage of teenagers than fifty-somethings are vaccinated, so the unvaccinated group overall skews somewhat younger than the older group. Since death rates rise with age, that difference may be enough to explain the gap between the two groups.
The second is that overall death rates in people over 60 (who are not covered in the chart) are much higher than those in the 10-59 range and appear to be lower in the vaccinated over the unvaccinated.
Another way to look at the objections: the first is that the chart doesn’t say what it seems to say, because of a hidden flaw in the data. The second is that it would be basically meaningless even if it did, because other more robust datasets contradict it.
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Part of being on Team Reality is acknowledging reality, and acknowledging when your critics have a factually correct objection. So I want to acknowledge that, like the chart itself, these objections BOTH are valid and factually accurate, viewed individually.
What the fact-checkers and vaccine fanatics appear incapable of understanding is that the two objections effectively cancel each other out - and do nothing to address concerns over the long-term failure of Covid vaccines or their impact on all-cause mortality.
These folks think they are sophisticated thinkers who have blown up apparent evidence that the vaccines are dangerous. In fact, just as they have for the last several months, they are telling themselves what they want to hear instead of listening to what the data are saying - and, increasingly, shouting.
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They have identified and latched on to ONE complication of using population-level data to judge vaccine effectiveness - the fact that differing rates of uptake by age may make the Covid vaccines seem less effective than they are.
But they - deliberately or out of ignorance - are ignoring another one, one that makes the vaccines seem MORE effective than they are.
The second problem is not a secret to epidemiologists.
It has been quietly discussed for flu vaccines for more than a decade, and I have written about it repeatedly in the last year. The problem is this: the popular belief that sick people are more likely to be vaccinated than healthy people is entirely wrong.
People who receive vaccines are healthier overall than those who do not. They care more about avoiding sickness, and they have the time and energy and money to find their way to a vaccination site. They are not healthier because they get vaccines; they get vaccines because they are healthier.
Older people who receive flu vaccines die - of both the flu and all causes - at much lower rates than unvaccinated people after they receive flu shots. But they also die at much lower rates BEFORE they receive the vaccines. The seminal study demonstrating this relationship is now more than 15 years old; it was published in the International Journal of Epidemiology in April 2006.
"The reductions in risk before influenza season indicate preferential receipt of vaccine by relatively healthy seniors,” the authors wrote.
This paradox helps explain why a huge study of flu vaccines in the United Kingdom showed that increasing vaccination levels in older people did not reduce to the number of hospitalizations or deaths from the flu.
The researchers took advantage of the fact that Britain prioritizes people 65 and older for vaccinations and that people are much more likely to get a shot when they are 65 or 66 than 64 or 63. Vaccination levels rose sharply as people turned 65, but the health of the people who received the shots did not improve.
The same pattern is visible in the United States, where a massive increase in the number of flu vaccines in the last generation has made no apparent difference in the number of flu deaths. In fact, in 2005, researchers noted that although vaccinations had risen from 20 percent of elderly people in 1980 to 65 percent in 2001, “unexpectedly, estimates of influenza-related mortality in this age group also increased [emphasis added] during this period.”
In other words, influenza vaccines only seem to work. Any observational estimate that compares death rates in people who have gotten shots to those who have not will be inherently untrustworthy, no matter how hard researchers try to correct for the healthy recipient bias.
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What is true for flu vaccines appears to be even more true for Covid vaccines.
The relentless vaccination push means that in many countries, more than 90 percent of elderly people are vaccinated. The split is even more stark in countries like England, where 2.44 million people 80 and over have been fully vaccinated, compared to 69,000 who are unvaccinated (and 24,000 who have received the first dose but not the second).
Look at those numbers again.
2,440,000 people in England 80 and over vaccinated. Almost 97 percent of the total number of elderly people.
69,000 80 and over unvaccinated. Less than 3 percent.
These two groups cannot remotely be compared.
How do they differ? I can’t find any hard data, but we know that at least a fraction of the elderly unvaccinated are too ill to be vaccinated. Some are in hospice care. Norway recommended against giving people in hospice the Covid vaccine in January following deaths in terminally ill patients.
A paper published online in March in the Journal of Pain and Symptom Management noted that “communication from hospice organizations has primarily emphasized the vaccination of hospice staff without the same priority mention for patients” and called for hospices to do more to offer vaccines to patients.
The paper’s title was even starker:
A Shot at Inclusion: Reconsidering Categorical Exclusion of Hospice Patients from COVID Vaccine Allocation.
How many Covid deaths in unvaccinated elderly people are actually “with Covid” deaths in people dying in hospice? Again, we don’t know. But what we know is that even a small number of those deaths will hopelessly bias the relative risk ratio for unvaccinated to vaccinated Covid deaths, because the overall number of unvaccinated people is so small.
As of September, about 30 to 35 unvaccinated English people 80 and over died of or with Covid each week, compared to about 250 fully vaccinated people a week.
So trying to measure vaccine effectiveness by looking at the relative risks of the vaccinated and unvaccinated elderly is impossible. But that is exactly what the health authorities and their servants in the media do when they put out figures that seem to show the risk of death from Covid is much lower in elderly people who have been vaccinated.
They are lying with truthful data, and they (some of them, anyway, though probably not the reporters who are writing the stories) are smart enough to know exactly what they’re doing.
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Meanwhile, they are ignoring a much more important indicator - trends in both Covid and all-cause mortality are very much going the wrong way in the vaccinated elderly population.
In the last four weeks for which British data are available, roughly coinciding with September, about 1,000 vaccinated English people 80 and over died from Covid and 16,000 from all causes.
Compare those numbers to four weeks in May, when fewer than 70 vaccinated English people 80 and over died from Covid and 13,000 from all causes.
Put another way, overall deaths rose more than 20 percent in the vaccinated elderly from May to September, and Covid deaths 15-fold. And this was not because many more people were vaccinated. The number of vaccinated elderly people rose only about 4 percent from May to September.
Compare that to the mortality trends in unvaccinated English people 80 and over.
About 800 died of all causes in four weeks in May (at the time, there were about 77,000 unvaccinated elderly people, compared to 69,000 in September). Fewer than 20 of those died of Covid.
In September, about 140 unvaccinated elderly people died of Covid - a eight-fold increase compared to the 15-fold increase in the vaccinated.
The striking part is that only 700 unvaccinated elderly English people died OF ALL CAUSES in those four weeks in September - FEWER than back in May. (The trend roughly tracked the overall drop in the elderly unvaccinated population. It appears that about 1 percent of those folks die a month, at least in warmer months.)
This trend is stunning for two reasons.
First, the fact that 100 more unvaccinated elderly people (supposedly) died of Covid in September yet 100 fewer of them died overall strongly suggests that many of those reported deaths are actually with and not from Covid.
Second, per capita all-cause mortality - not just Covid mortality, all-cause mortality - rose close to 20 percent in the very large group of the vaccinated elderly. Some of those extra deaths came from Covid. But most did not.
And though death rates are still somewhat higher in the unvaccinated - as they should be, given the fact that vaccine recipients are healthier - but that fact is far less relevant than the notable rise in the vaccinated.
What’s behind the rise in those deaths in the vaccinated elderly? We don’t know. But we’d better find out. Especially since we are now stuffing boosters into their arms.
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All of this is somewhat complicated, I’ll admit. The data has lots of confounders and continues to evolve. And trying to explain relative changes in all-cause mortality in the context of healthy vaccine recipient bias using papers about flu vaccine - well, it’s not a soundbite.
Which comes back to the chart from last week.
The chart IS a soundbite.
It is a simple and factually accurate way to say:
Something is wrong. The promises that the health authorities have made over the last 12 months about the vaccines are not coming true. Despite near-complete levels of adult vaccination in Europe, many countries are seeing skyrocketing Covid cases and deaths. And worst of all, all-cause non-Covid mortality is running well above normal in country after country.
Not everyone is going to wade through this article. But everyone can read that chart from last week. It’s not perfect, but it uses real data to raise a crucial issue.
That’s why it landed. And that’s why the vaccine fanatics hate it so much.
I really had to laugh when I read the part about the elderly and flu vaccines. We had this discussion this morning with my dad. About 15 years ago he started taking the flu shot. Since then he says, he never had the flu nor a cold ! Even the doctor tried several times to tell him the shot does nothing for the cold, it is an entirely different illness. Then I asked him how often he remembered to have the flu before he got the shots. Never. He never had the flu. But he takes the dangerous shots.... I am 64 and hope to stay away from any shots. I also hope I will remember this sentence in 20 years from now if still alive.
I just read an article from Mercola about a big pharma insider saying they do not work anyway, just a source of revenue. This is such a crock of lies. Sometimes I feel like I am living in an alternate universe. Who do you trust anymore? My gut instincts methinks!
Who do you trust? The question of our time. Eric Weinstein proposed this as an alternative to leftist vs conservative in understanding our current differences. I find it works. One aspect is the trusters don’t like/aren’t interested/reject discussion, while the non-trusters have endless questions/skepticism. The latter is closer to the practice of science when I was in college 55 years ago. (Anti-)social media has two engines, the obvious power to obscure, compel, conceal, and cancel but another to reveal the incompetence and corruption in all our institutions. I am now as I was in Berkeley in 1964, a nearly complete Non Truster. Interesting times.
I'm with you Douglas. I too was on campus in the 60's & in 70 when Kent State happened. We questioned everything & especially the government. Later I taught science & math; later still was a technology executive. I understand both science and logic. What I cannot understand is how seemingly intelligent people can listen and obey without questioning either the science or the logic in all this. Just bewildering.
That is the most illogical twist I have seens. People cannot think. I asked my all for population limitation friends why if they felt so strongly about population control, they didnt just catch Covid? No they are all jabbed. Sigh.
Richard, I noticed the limb amputations when the cleaning lady who clean our call rooms said “I gotta get back and clean this one operating room… another limb amputation”…. She asked if I thought Covid is causing this. Then I realized the inflammatory issues ect…with the vaccine. It’s all making sense.
Exactly , we came from a line of 10000 generations where each ancestor made the right decision of whether that snake was food or poison and have now degenerated so far we need an authority to tell us otherwise .
The teens and young adults of the 60's have flipped. Now they totally trust the government and question nothing. I don't get it. Even my grandparents (1900-1975) didn't trust the government and blamed everything on the government.
We should be able to find trustworthy guides in our lives, and I think they exist. It seems in today’s culture we have a tendency to elevate those guides to hero status, listening to them in areas beyond their expertise, and then are dismayed when they fail. All our heroes are fallen. That doesn’t mean we can’t trust and learn from them. But we fail when we abandon our reason and trust blindly.
While I don’t trust any I certainly value and follow some for information and perspective. As you say, the expiry period for heroes is 15 Warhol units of time. We have data, we have information, we have knowledge, we have analytics, we need wisdom. Reagan put it well — trust, but verify.
You know Reagan was on cholesterol lowering pharmaceutical drug for years and years it has been linked to Alzheimer’s/ memory loss… he died of that disease…. Too bad he took away the right to sue BIG PHARMA…. They still prescribe those drugs today :(
Gerrt VDB brought up a critical point recently- the establishment tends to be highly specialized whereas the complexities we’re facing require knowledge from several disciplines to chart effective policy. “Experts” also tend to be insulated from the real world consequences of their decision making. Of course there’s a darker side w the capture of public health agencies, scientific institutions & officials by corporate interests, but this at least explains the more well-meaning types just making really dumb calls.
They do but you have to search them out-- they are not the institutions or people that say they are there to help. Always questions and find groups that intuitively fit your view of the world 😊
There's an old saying, by whom I don't know, that basically says "If I discover that someone is coming to help me, I should run for my life." That probably especially so if "somebody" is the government.
Very true. An honest person that is trusted, needs to always admit when wrong. Yes, it will disappoint, but not being able to look oneself in the mirror is avoiding truth and for that person they cease growing spiritually.
"...we have a tendency to elevate those guides to hero status, listening to them in areas beyond their expertise..." I don't think this could be said any better, and the opposite is also true: a complete dismissal of those who are not our heroes and finding them unable to offer any truths at all. All we have to do is look at the last few presidents to find evidence of this.
You hit the nail soundly....on the head😊. 1964 UCLA endless questions even for we business majors. And I too have become a non-truster. But, nevertheless, science has given us many more years of life. We no longer live in fear of Polio, Smallpox, Measles, et al. So, there is that!
But, then there's the obesity epidemic and all the havoc that has caused for our health. Look at pictures from the sixties and early seventies, hardly a fatty to be seen. Now it's one obese slob after another, all claiming they're beautiful and healthy no matter what. Of course they're delusional, but who's to blame? The FDA still insists that saturated fat should be avoided, salt severely limited, carbs are OK, and sugar's still good if you don't "eat too much" of it. The AHA is bought and paid for by manufacturers who want to keep selling junk food, the American Diabetes Association is still pushing carbs as part of a healthy diet for diabetics.
Modern nutrition research has debunked most of this crap, particularly the "saturated fat/cholesterol heart disease hypothesis," but you would never know it. It's as if Ancel Keys, the Fauchi of his day, is still telling the FDA what to push on an unsuspecting public.
People in power "learn" something, and then refuse to look at it ever again. It's too much trouble to keep up, so they just go with the flow. Just follow the policy, because even if they know the policy is wrong, they can't be faulted for following it. Hence, remdesivir, ventilators, and face masks.
I tell my adult kids all the time…I attended an elementary school of 900 kids…there was maybe one or two “fat kids” (yes we used those words) in the whole school…no diabetics…and not a one with a peanut allergy
I saw recent studies on this that align with what you pointed out, that it has been since the late 1970s or so that the general average weight of many Americans began to increase significantly due to all the garbage / synthetics etc that started to be used in food due in one main part, to the "Synthetic Chemicals Revolution." So true, there were hardly any fat kids, hardly any diabetics and not one peanut allergy.
Yes, autism was very rare but hey, vaccines are supposedly innocent of having any connection to that right? Well according to the really well done documentaries below by Del Bigtree, well, take some time to watch and inform yourself with truthful information that has been so intensely suppressed for a long time but finally over the last years becoming so much more well known;
Don't self censor because of those leftists who can't handle what they really are, fat. A dog is a dog, a cat a cat, a rat a rat and anything else is a lie kinda thing.
I'm 72. When I was in elementary and high school there simply were NO obese kids, I knew no one who was really overweight, and there were no really obese adults either. Some people had maybe 10-15 excess pounds on them, but you never saw the bloated morbid obesity that is commonplace today. I'm not sure when it all changed..perhaps in the late 1980s, not sure.
1st post...What an awesome thread. Questioners, yeah! I just wanted to respond to the obesity epidemic. Ray Peat is an elder epidemiologist and has research links ad infinitum to PUFA's and their history in our diet beginning with the end of seed oils used in paints ~1945. Mega/corporate farming found a new niche for seed oils-Fattening animals, swine mostly. There is so much wrong-toxic in the dosages of seed oils in the human diet today. Carbs are one thing Saturated fat is what humans burn, cleanly. Poly fats cause dozens of diseases. Just aside. We are still getting through the fat scandal. See raypeat.com. gil@skipleyfarm
This is so spot on. Also, check out Dr. Michael Eades. He has taken a deep dive into just how PUFA's affect our fat cells vs saturated fat. If you're into some basic biochemistry, you'll love it.
Totally correct. And "Doctors" are still trying to frighten people away from low carb higher fat eating habits. They won't let go. As far as insulin resistance/obesity/type II, don't forget the devastating role that PUFA's have played in all of this. Since the 70's our food supply has been deluged with cheap, industrially processed polyunsaturated vegetable oils. Metabolically, this stuff opens our fat cells up for unlimited storage. Whereas saturated animal fat limits how fat we actually can get. And PUFAs are dangerously pro inflammatory. Inflammation is the underpinning of virtually all metabolic disease. Yet this is what modern medicine is still pushing. Thus forcing the majority of the population onto statins, ace inhibitors and metformin. It's crazy. The parallel to the approach to the Covid pandemic is terrifying.
No current medical science actually has done the opposite-- created more chronic conditions. The data that current" science uses re : polio, smallpox etc. does not accurately depict what changed leaving us living longer. Ask the Romans and Greeks, hygiene-- waste removal, water control and food storage and prep. It was never vaccines.
Exactly. In fact, the vaccine medical complex and its adherence need to answer for WHY chronic illnesses and diseases like juvenile diabetes, obesity, allergies, autism all shot up right around the time we began adding to the list of vaccines in infants. It's no longer acceptable to hear them squawk about 'settled science'. Them saying 'we don't know but it's not the vaccines' is utter bollocks. Are you not the damn experts? Then find them. I want answers. I feel like Michael Corleone when he entered Carlo's house and said, "You haver to answer for Santino, Carlo' and Carlo's subsequent meek, knowing he was busted, response about getting it all wrong. Explain yourselves and please no Offits and Plotnicks who are knee deep in conflicts of interest. They can offer their opinions but they're not to be the final arbiters. I want a Grey Skull Summit with all the Masters of the Universe weighing in. Scientists. Not scienticians.
RFK Jr. says that part of the 1986 law that gave vaccine makers immunity, also gave the CDC the responsibility to ensure vaccine safety. They’ve totally failed. They’re all just in the same club with the FDA and the pharma corps.
This. The only thing standing between humanity & almost complete eradication of respiratory pathogens is advanced HVAC & air purification technology. Or, we could go back to leaky buildings & shacks & come out of this on top like the “third world”. But nooo, the government & corporate entities of this world regard humans as disease vectors & must impose regular injections as a reminder of their low station.
Oh polio.. like @Jules P pointed out, man, Polio is one of their best grand deceptions that vaccines were the miracle to stop it, when if you take the time to investigate competently and sceptically, you find right around the time those shots came out, there was a significant increase in proper hygiene and yet we are told it was the shots, not the increased hygiene that "stopped" Polio. I encourage you to check these out as well;
Also, these "savior vaccines" all appeared after the epidemics were over. The vax pushers always claim that the disease their vaccine is claimed to protect against is an incurable disease. Dr. Frederick Klenner had already demonstrated that polio could be cured with IV Ascorbate protocols.
The vaxxers claim that there is no treatment. They lie routinely.
Polio is an inappropriate comparison because influenza and coronaviruses are zoonotic. They live in other animals, and so complete eradication is impossible. Also, their “vaccines” don’t provide sterilizing immunity.
Which makes the mass vaccination strategy - and all the collateral damage that comes with it from adverse events to mandates to passports - all the more ludicrous if not criminal. I fall in the camp where we need a Nuremberg 2.
I think you missed the point of my post, which @Chuck Burns did. As for covid coming from animals, i would strongly encourage you to watch this by Dr. David Martin, perhaps you might change your mind on thinking covid is zoonotic;
I picked up 'The Poisoned Needle' (1957). Vaccines are borderline quackery. It's literally messing with a system so intricate and complex, man can't possibly improve on it. The vaccine train is Lyle Lanley's first success story before the Monorail.
They simply appear to have done so because doctors typically refuse to diagnose/test for the condition if the patient is vaccinated (a phenomenon that is actually exacerbated by lab testing (because we *require* lab confirmation today but we didn't before their vaccines came out)).
The diseases have therefore been renamed not reduced.
To illustrate, paralysis rates have increased since the polio vaccine. Polio is now called GBS, MS, etc.
Congenital defect rates have increased since the rubella vaccine. Measles and rubella are now called roseola, 5th disease, hand foot and mouth.
Liver cancer rates have increased since the hepatitis b vaccine. Hep B is called Hep C, D.
Sterility rates have increased since the mumps vaccine. Mumps = parotitis.
Invasive disease rates have increased since the various meningitis vaccines.
I sincerely want to thank you as well for that, this is insightful, there are things you stated that i know about but then other things i didn't know yet, so thank you, much appreciated.
I have a vague memory of this Smallpox tale. I grew up with "scientists", Physicists to be more precise. They are all cut from the same cloth....but, not all are bereft of morality. One guy like Fauci can spoil the whole pot of stew! Now, we don't believe a thing they say!
I am a school social worker,I watched as my age group came out of the 60's. Our generation resented our parents and when we became parents were terrified of being blamed as we blamed our parents for our misdeeds and wild ways in the 60's. We were determined to do everything right so we read the books by so called experts, ran to the doctors and mental health professionals for advice basically turning our children over to them. We then created a generation who can't think for themselves and want a playbook for life. So how can anyone be surprised that they believe "science" as gospel. They do not think for themselves for fear of making mistakes and not being perfect. If they follow others and it goes wrong, well it was the experts fault not their fault.
In light of this so called cancel culture where all mistakes are punished not learned from, you can understand their fear but it makes for a pretty depressing life.
Fauci: The Bernie Madoff of Science and the HIV Ponzi Scheme that Concealed the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic Kindle Edition $1.99 This little book is a chapter from The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic Cover-up Volume Two.
In this explosive chapter, the first publisher to devote his newspaper to the coverage of AIDS and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome details the role of Anthony Fauci in the cover-up of the truth about the relationship of the two epidemics.
I have Fibromyalgia, Fatigue is part of it, Pain in every fiber of your body. Misdiagnosed Idiopathic Colitis, which I kept insisting was Gastropresis, Gastro refused to run the Gastric Delay test, Internist did, Positive. None of the other GI test were. And Reglan is Black Boxed for Neurological disease. I learned the hard way stay away from those meds. This was a Fiber optics pioneer in the Coloscopy field, not your average Gastro. I learned NOT TO TRUST.
How does a booming economy, low gas prices, no food shortages, fewer OD's go from that, to 100,000 OD deaths, Hyper Inflation, high gas prices, food shortages in just 10 months? We got the Wrong president, 42 yrs of a do nothing senator, who can't string a coherent sentence together, as far back as the Clarence Thomas hearings. Did mean tweets hurt your feelings? I'll take that over being told I have NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND HAVE TO PAY HIGHER TAXES FOR ILLEGALS, UNVETTED REFUGEES bringing in Highly contagious diseases, crime, and illicit drugs laced with Synthetic Chinese Fenatayl. And IRRESPONSIBLE idiots who think their MMJ should look like a Toddler's GUMMY BEARS. IS ANY ONE TRACKING THAT? FDA APPROVED. WHO PAID THEM OFF? BROWNIES WERE HOMEMADE. Even our pets are Not safe from ingesting MMJ Irresponsible people leave lying around. You want to use it, be responsible about doing so.
I love Weinsteins proposal-- I totally agree-- differences based on values-- ie question authority or just bow to it. Love your post. I too am in your camp. 62yrs. old.
No. See, this is the problem. I’m not believing or claiming anything in particular, you’re claiming a coronavirus exists. OK, then you must have the evidence of a properly isolated and purified object, right?
If you don’t, why are you claiming they exist or why are you believing they exist?
Well Mercola is quite trustworthy, Big-Pharma? I think you know that answer. Big-Pharma is not interested in the cure, but treating the symptoms, that's where the billions are made, making blood money off of suffering, i've learned about this for many years. Who do i trust anymore? God/Jesus, the only one who is ultimately faithful and true, and anyone who does or communicates things contrary to what God/Jesus, you can't trust them on that thing or trust them at all.
Scientists and doctors that value truth are worth their weight in gold in this battle - people like Dr. McCullough. But the consensus behind The Science™ has completely abandoned truth, because reality is offensive to their ideals. The same scientists in favor of giving little children hormone therapy are also pushing everyone to inject their kids with covid shots. The further we get from truth, the more painful the consequences.
Well stated Nomad, i agree due to having knowledge of the same things but you expressed it well, hard truth. Note: that little "Trademark" is quite fitting (you used ASCII code for that right?).
The trademark symbol can be done with a keyboard shortcut if you want to search it.
This weekend Fauci made a reminder declaration that criticism aimed at him is an attack on science. The reality is that criticism of him is an attack on The Science™ and completely warranted.
That this guy is in charge of anything, God help us all.
I know it can be done by ASCII hence why i asked, i just don't recall the ASCII code. Thanks anyway.
"This weekend Fauci made a reminder declaration that criticism aimed at him is an attack on science. The reality is that criticism of him is an attack on The Science™ and completely warranted."
You want to know something that is not coincidence since nothing is coincidence in God's/Jesus' nature of reality? I am responding some moments i just read your reply above in my email, seconds right before i read your reply as i was listening to Mike Adams talk about current events, Mike was talking about how Fauci so sickly vainly claimed to be "science".. as i was listening to that and read your reply within the last 15 mins, i was like "Wow Lord, again, nothing is coincidence." What a no coincidence at all that as i was listening, Mike Adams is saying what you did in a different way right as i started to read your reply. Serendipity. Yes God help us all, with how much his masters have put him in control of.
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"...I am responding some moments AFTER i just read your reply above in my email..." not "...I am responding some moments i just read your reply above in my email.."..
Indeed, many parallels, and what sickens me to my spirit and stomach, is how many wilfully ignore it and are under grand Stockholm syndrome. I would state it goes even farther back, since in Greek the word "Pharmakea" means 'sorcery' as its main meaning, in other words, witchcraft potions, and that's what BigPharma is, mass witchcraft, using potions to put people under a spell, for demonic take over aka diabolisation of society and that is so evident more than ever with them who have the spiritual yearning desire to live in truth and thus see it. We are controlled by high priest occultists who are more successful than ever in putting much of the world under a deeply profound grand global spell / incantation / trance / hypnosis aka.. diabolised zombies.
Mercola was the one that made me realize our labs are so corrupt. Those that believe cancer is metabolic are quickly kicked from any lab space. I worked for a few pharmaceuticals as did my husband. They were not looking for any cures. They are not in the business to do so. They want people to remain or get even sicker to keep their profits coming. It is all about margins and expanding the cancer industry.
Has always been skewed to the profit motive anyone believing otherwise is in flat out denial or simply to young yet to fully grasp the scope of this reality. This is decades and decades and decades of ongoing deception and only more intentional with time passing. Big pharma knows that slick marketing and coercing medical facilities-medical personnel to push the concoctions will translate into sales and profits. I blame both the fraudulent intentional intent of big pharma and those people or some call sheeple to allow themselves to continue the trusting as they do what the see and feel in media ads and what bought and paid for healthcare providers are telling them. Not all medical personnel, but a very large % are in fact bought and paid for by big pharma
If you haven’t already done so, I encourage you all to watch the limited series on Hulu entitled “Dopesick”, and then ask yourself if the pharmaceutical companies have your health in mind. Aside from their sickening sales tactics and manufactured, industry-funded “studies”, they bolster their obscene profits by routinely hiring former high ranking FDA employees, giving them top jobs in pharma companies upon leaving the FDA - for 3-5x’s the salary. Conflict of interest? Ya think? And yet it’s all perfectly legal. It’s happening today. Absolutely sickening.
You as well, well stated and reasoned, and learned, i know this these things also after many years of indagating. I encourage you to check out these documentaries on exactly what you pointed out, they are bombs exposing the utter deception, subterfuge, wickedly abominable evil practices they engage in that you pointed out, even the titles of the documentaries in the link i'm sharing here, focus right in on these mind-boggling mass murderous evil, like the title of one documentary called "Making a Killing";
So agree. We are now in Late Capitalism, where industry/robber barons have captured the government, media, politicians, some legal, some police, yadda, yadda. It’s worse than just Big Pharma. The danger: it can and will destroy democracy, if it hasn’t already. Capitalism can work IF it is properly fettered to prevent what we see now. And, yes, this “system of cultural power” has been decades in the making—inch by inch.
I would hesitate to even use the word capitalism… monopolistic, kleptocratic corporatism, cronyism, fascism? Capitalism breaks when people stop voting with their money. Actually, our constitutional money (gold and then silver) was confiscated in 1933, 1964. People have become completely apathetic, outsourcing personal oversight and regulatory powers (consumer watchdogs, boycott movements, etc) to government bureaucrats that can easily be bought.
I would generally agree on the level you are presenting that as, but a democracy is not what you want since it's 2 wolves and a sheep fighting over what is for dinner.
Still laughing. Thanks. The wolves need to be muzzled, of course, and the sheep hit over the head probably. But, what alternative is better? We have a long history of the wolves crashing the system, and it isn’t the sheep who save things. That’s for sure.
:) Glad you liked a very fitting figurative explanation.
Yes the wolves need to be muzzled and the sheep hit over the head, hahaha. I'm in Canada, from what i know, America was better as a republic before the Americans got conned into a democracy. Your last sentence has truth, but like the Lord taught in the Scriptures;
2 Chronicles 7:14
"If my people (His true believers), which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
That's how things could be saved by i'm saddened by how your nation and my nation and the West, has been and continues to increase in being turned deliberately into such moral corrosion, corruption, decay, degeneration, lawlessness, perversion and rot by the powers that be, and so many that allowed it, in my perspective based on the Scriptures, now is the time to get on the Ark (symbolic for getting right with the authentic austere Jesus the Christ of the Scriptures) because the a flood is coming and few shall be saved. Consider this;
"More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our Revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous Revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”"- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn [excerpt from 1983 Templeton Address]
“Ownership of the media is always in the hands of the perpetrators.” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Here's something else to take note of which i STRONGLY urge those who read this message, to consider quite strongly, the below excerpt (link for the excerpt is provided further below);
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"How the communist plan to overthrow America from within is being prosecuted:
In his best-selling book “The Naked Communist,” former FBI Special Agent W. Cleon Skousen revealed the 45 communist goals to overthrow America, not by a foreign invasion, but via stealth, infiltration and deception carried out by American citizens who have quietly moved to the side of the hammer and sickle. As you read the following partial list of those goals, ask yourself which political party most closely aligns itself with these profoundly un-American objectives.
.....In one of his most revealing quotes, Lenin said, “The goal of socialism is communism.” The idea that creeping socialism should precede outright communism is an acknowledgment that totalitarian rule is so frightening to people in free nations that it must be quietly slipped into those societies in bits and pieces. It is through that incremental process that socialism serves as an under-the-radar, transitional gateway to the unrelenting oppression of full-blown communism.
Gramsci’s stratagem is reflected in one of his most pertinent quotes: “Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media.”
Gramsci theorized that what holds a capitalist society together are the pillars of its culture, the structures and institutions of family, religion, education, politics, law, the arts, and the media, as they provide the social cohesion necessary to a functioning society. Undermine the principles that these cultural institutions embody, and a capitalist society can be overthrown from within without firing a shot."... - canadafreepress.com/article/the-communist-plan-to-overthrow-america-from-within
Norman Mattoon Thomas (November 20, 1884 – December 19, 1968) was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America. Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech: “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” He went on to say: “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”
As clearly outlined -- so clearly in RFKs book on Fauci-- there isn't a WORLD leading University/College that doesn't depend on Fauci (ie US govt taxpayers) largesse in research--either medical or bio-weapon medical (thanks MIC)
I did a quick google and just about half of MDs are NOT in private practice in the USA. At first that sounds promising, but I suspect that more of the MDs even those with their own offices, still are beholden to some degree to The System. Hospital admitting or practicing privileges. Risk of censure or license suspension by Board of Health or other license-granting (and revoking) authority. Reportedly, even writing the "wrong" prescriptions can get them in trouble in some States and countries.
Right. I’m in Maine and pretty much everything here is “Maine Health.” Very, very few docs in private practice. Big inroads in Charleston, SC, area too, especially in pediatric and family practice. Docs are also paid for using industry products—from surgical stuff to vaccines. It’s just…corrupt. In the end, as you say, docs are no longer reliable narrators because if they don’t tow the line, they are punished, as you note.
Back in the good old days we trusted simple observations. That went not just for medicine but life in general. We didn't rely on and obsess about 'peer reviewed'. We trusted our instincts and exercised critical thinking skills. It's plain apparent the vaccines are nothing but a bilk of junk. They remind me of products you impulsively buy advertised on TV. They work for a time and then.....Poo-tee-wwet? No different with the vaccines. They never had a chance and now we're entering the 'Chase that variant' phase with the vaccines. The hubris and stupidity of man thinking they can outwit a virus that's 2.5 billion years old, Mother Nature AND God combined! Salk thought he vaccines could improve immunity and we see the same thing today whenever quacks (you heard me) say even if you had Covid take the shot because "extra primo crispy protection!" Worse, the head of some paediatrician association Lee Beers said this applies to children as well! Let's take a kid whose immunity bashes Covid, recovers and give them a jab. Yeh, sounds like a plan. Paediatricians are vaccine cultists.
“Extra Primo Crispy Protection”!! My mother 82 had Covid in Feb 2021 and recovered in 10 days. She is super-healthy. She walks 5 miles, 3 days a week, works out in the gym 2 days and plays water volleyball too. She has had intestinal issues in the last few years. I told/begged her not to get the vaccine. She got the first shot anyway without telling any of us. Moderna. Short version. Hospitalized for 4 weeks with unknown illness. Finally did exploratory surgery because nothing else worked. A hernia wrapped around her lower intestine was removed. She is back to normal now. I told her if she got the 2nd shot or the booster I would personally do some damage (joking). Maybe a coincidence but I don’t think so.
About 15 years ago my doc, at the time, said he had become nothing but a pill pusher. I got another doc, a very intelligent fellow, who has become nothing but a protocol enabler.
It appears no matter the person or group their devotion for vaccines is because they want their share of the cash to keep rolling in. This is all about money.
I rely on large doses of vitamins/minerals. Pre-Biotics, and Probiotics. They may not work as fast, but they don't kill. The ones I find that are failures are Multi's, Knee pain, for OA pain Turmeric. Nor does Cinnamon lower BS. If it's being Marketed it's being HYPED. It takes research to find the right combo that Your body needs. Black Cohosh had the same side effects as hormones did.
The only problem with that is, your gut instincts can't perform specialized services for you or watch your 6 in a firefight. We need to be able to trust others, which is why this Covid nonsense has to stop.
Yes, it would be good if we could. I'll make a "calculated" decision but not based on trust. I hope that day comes but it does seem we're headed the other way. And you're right, Covid policy was the final nail and they're too deep to stop digging.
exactly....all for almighty profit, this whole thing sickens me. they are not elites, they are the delites as I call them. they just have more money but their days are coming, night will be closing fast upon them.
What is a virus and who has proven it exists by properly isolating and purifying the object? Please provide a scientific document that outlines the process used.
Well I certainly agree that mandating a medical product is very wrong. My point is important; no virus has been proven to exist, and these jabs are for no virus. Same with Polio, Influenza, and all others that are based on “viruses”
Please subscribe, it is a wealth of information. Clean, pure and mostly medical. May be too high a level education wise for some but likely those can still gleam some information. Can’t recall how much, if anything, it costs but if your life is priceless, it is worth it. Download the PDFs right away, as they only last less then 48 hrs or so. He gets hacked into regularly by those who do not want the truth reported and who constantly censor by illegal means. The hackers include the Government agencies. It is costly and time consuming to fend off these attackers. Thank you for your service Dr. Mercola and all those ( you know who you are ) that are risking life, limb, work and savings to help others and get the truth out. Who would have thought …?
Made me righteously indignant when i found out from Mercola he had to do this... man...that is undeniable evidence of how damaging the truth he puts out is, that he has come to that. The West is going ...authoritarian all by design as part of that global governance agenda the powers that be have been working on for so long.
Just found it sunhawk. you have to go down to about the middle of the article under the heading Massaging Covid 19 Messages and it is a few paragraphs down!
As a physician, I inherently steer away from vaccines if there are therapeutics that can adequately treat specific disease.
My reasoning is simple: messing with the immune system for a disease we may never get is overkill. Why vaccinate if taking an antibiotic or antiviral is reliably effective?
A truly wise medical provider you are. It's that exact way of thinking we are as 'we the people" craving. Stay true to your logical and obviously compassionate nature as a trusted source of medical information!
Glad you are in that minority, i'm just surprised you would suggest anti-biotics when they damage the body quite a bunch, a fact i would think you know. "Bios" in Greek means "life" and so anti-biotics actually means anti-life since it kills both good and bad bacteria etc. For me, i know anti-biotics are the only thing i will use if i have no other choice because natural medicine is not helping me, even when i have to use anti-biotic, i do my best to counter it's damaging effects with natural medicine.
"Even when I have to use anti-biotic, I do my best to counter its damaging effects with natural medicine". Amen.
In veterinary medicine, when an anti-biotic is prescribed for a bacterial infection, a pro-biotic supplement is often prescribed at the same time to prevent disruption of the gut micro-biome that would otherwise cause diarrhea.
You know something? What you stated in the second paragraph is so key, because this is what i learned from a Naturopath/Health Food store owner, and what you stated is almost exactly what you stated. Amen! I know you are telling truth not just because of what you told me is the same thing i learned from natural health physicians etc but also because there is indeed more evidence than ever that what you stated is an effective protocol and it makes total sense, thanks again JP Sand.
At age71 and no flu shots since the mid 1970's, if ever...I really don't recall before that time. No flu in at least 30 years, but a few times before that I had some flu and once was somewhat severe but not life threatening. So I ask myself why on earth do I need any flu shot? This is simply NOTHING that big pharma could ever do to make me healthier. And where is the long term data (studies) that proves yearly flu shots are safe and effective? MIA, I believe.
When my mother got dementia I started reading up on that. Scientists are still investigating whether the heavy metals, aluminum, mercury, in the shots can cause dementia, Alzheimers, etc. I take the sure for the unsure and stay with my Echinacea and Cryptolepis and the kind! Even if FDA unproven LOL
Most people have never had the Flu, but the propaganda makes it sound inevitable unless you get the flu shot. With Covid, most people will never get it, or even know they had it. But hey,get the jab because it's inevitable ! Pharma actually went to the CDC and ask them to make the Flu sound scarier to sell more shots. The CDC's Flu burden analysis is Total BS. The scare wasn't enough , so they invented covid.
Back in 1974 I had my one and only bout of flu....the Hong Kong flu. Since then I have never been so ill. It was 10 days out of work; horrific fevers and hallucinations; symptoms got worse as the day went on. My 60 yo mother moved in to take care of me and my young son. After that I never was seriously ill again (I thank God). I also did not take any flu shots after that either. 2 weeks later my 8 yo son got it and he was also extremely ill, but bounced back quicker. My Mom didn't even get a sniffles! My good old GP told me then that I would have long-lasting immunity that I could trust as would my son. That's how B and T cells work, always have (or we humans would be long gone) and always will AS LONG AS YOU DON'T INJECT mRNA GENE THERAPY PRODUCTS into your body which changes your body's innate immune response.
What a testimony, truth! Amen! Glad to read things like this. That's the thing with natural immunity, Big-Pharma despises it because well... it's free. Yes the B and T cells are a wonder of His creation as all things are. So don't even dare inject GMO/Franken shots / synthetic mRNA gene altering DNA and immune destroying injections since allowing oneself to be a lab rat of seriously ultra reckless diabolical gene hackers who megalomaniacally are messing around with what God created (DNA) AS IF they "KNOW" what they are doing (due to their insatiable demonic delusional desire to be a 'god') with a biological system that is far beyond man's ability to comprehend because of how 4+ dimensional complex DNA is, is utterly recklessly, dangerously, fatally foolish and therefore we deserve what we get if we wilfully ignore the warnings.
God is eternally the greatest, and the Devil is eternally the biggest loser.
The whole influencing of the innate immune system within our god given bodies is quite concerning for certain! IF these mongers behind the scene know this is in fact an outcome of the experimental medicine injections it had better be show the LIGHT of day!
Look guys, I share much of the skepticism here about the plain evil about the pandemic. I can even accept that the flu shots are not highly effective. But when you start slinging around claims like most people have never had a case of flu, your ignorance is showing. Colds and flu are among the world's most common diseases. If you've never had a fever, chills, aches, cough, stuffy or runny nose, etc, EVER in your life you are either a very exceptional person or a liar.
Indeed, year after year and so on.. all by ever refining design, with "A Brave New World" mixed with certain parts of "Nineteen Eighty-Four" and "THX1138" and more to do their best to ensure the spirit/mind control is so entrenched, so deep, that it's permanent, but only God/Jesus can break it if the one under truly seeks liberation from such intense diabolist war.
I saw an analysis based on UK NHS data that basically proved zero effectiveness of flu shots. They compared rates of flu before and after age 65 (apparently UK policy encourages giving out flu shots starting age 65) and found no difference. Those is a great test because it's precisely the same population.
I have told this story before but I love it enough to tell it again. A couple years ago (pre-Covid) I was standing at the pharmacy counter while an elderly man was in front of me. He gave his birth date to the pharmacist to pick up his RX and his birth year was 1928. The pharmacist asked him if he wanted a flu shot. He said no, he turned to me and he said that he never gets a flu shot- and he has never had the flu. I said that I was the same, never gotten a flu shot and never had the flu. Then I noticed that he had a big case of Gatorade that he was buying along with his RX. I said "is that what you drink to stay so healthy?" and he replied "oh, no, this is for my wife. I only drink beer!"
Nice story! Also my aunt is 86.. she had Covid in May 2021.. and double pneumonia… at same time… she was sick 3 weeks but recovered Completely she still lives independently and works 2 days a week
My father was from Italy. Rarely saw him drink water. Just wine. And smoked like a chimney. Never had the flu or a cold. And he swam like a champ. Go figure.
I do salt water rinse daily and anytime I go out in public come back home…. I don’t get sick I take zinc and vitamin D and C I haven’t worn a mask yet!
The wife of one of my husband's clients became permanently paralyzed from the waist down a few days after getting a flu shot. We have not and never will get a flu shot or a 'whack-a-mole' m0r0nic c0vid cl0t shot.
I've had one flu shot in my life, 25 years or so ago. I was so sick for about 5 months with sinus problems. Never had a flu shot again and never will. I've had the clot shots from Pfizer stupidly, 12 days in cardiac care in the hospital. I had shot 2 5 months ago but no more.
Reminds me of people who think masks protected them from the flu in 2020. The amount of face palming I've done these past 21 months has left a permanent red mark on my forehead.
You are not the only one. I have read testimonies from both people and their physicians, that the masks caused rash, eczema etc. I noticed when I wore one for an hour, my allergy got worse. I only wore it at the couple of stores that gave them out like Walmart. Hate them.
I hate face masks with a burning passion! I only wear one when it's absolutely demanded (in a store, for example) but only for very short periods of time (i.e. a few minutes.)
They make my rosacea worse, they irritate my sinuses, so that I have a runny nose (while wearing a mask!) which I deal with by pulling the f***ing mask down so I can blow my nose into a tissue (to the absolutely horror of everyone around me, of course,) and they make me feel claustrophobic, short-of-breath, vision-impaired, off-balance, dizzy, discombobulated, or some awful combination of all the above.
Periodically cashiers working just rip them off their faces. I feel so much empathy for their misery. I have seen them rip them off when taking a break and the masks get tossed on table, drop on floor, get wadded up and stuffed into pockets or get moved below their chin as they walk into bathroom. We know those masks are filthy by the time they go home. Most are wearing masks that need washing and we know that Is not happening with any regularity.
Double Bubble bubble gum comics were onto this phenomenon 50 or 60 years ago. I remember one little comic strip, that wrapped around the bubble gum, where a kid was tearing sheets of paper into small pieces and scattering them on the ground. His friend asked him why do he was doing that, and he said, "To keep elephants away." His friend said, "There are no elephants around here." And the first kids said, "See, it's working."
Is vaccine testing any saner? When testing a vaccine, it is unethical to "challenge" a subject with the actual pathogen. I can understand that; it might make him ill or even kill him. How, then, can they possibly test the efficacy of a vaccine? I'll admit I'm not sure, but it seems to me they have little option but the watch the test group for say, six months, and see how many people catch a disease, and then compare results with the control group. This seems a rather imprecise way. Now, we can agree that the Covid-19 virus was circulating, so perhaps that makes the test have some validity. But to me, it seems only a bit sounder than if they were testing a vaccine against Ebola -- which to my knowledge, doesn't exist at all in the USA. If no one catches Ebola, can they then conclude that the vaccine provides perfect protection?
Yes, I worked in a hospital for 30 years. I never got the flu shot because they never claimed to give 100% prevention. One year was only 25% effective. Then the hospital started mandating the flu shot the last year I worked there. I always feel that vaccines destroy peoples' immunity and never got any but polio, Rubella, and smallpox when I entered kindergarten. My health is fantastic. I feel if I had jumped to receive every vaccine offered, I'd be fighting all kinds of diseases because the shots destroyed immunity. There are also studies showing that vaccines are the reason so many people are getting cancer. I believe it.
I took early retirement in early 2015, so the shot was 2014. That was the first year it was made mandatory to keep my job. Since I couldn't afford to quit just yet, I went ahead and got it against my will, but I got out of there a few months later. If it were the Covid jab, I would have quit on the spot and scrambled to do something else. Back then, jobs were hard to come by. Now I see help wanted signs everywhere!
It's sad. Even people who previously seemed skeptical of the government and medical industry, many seem to completely buy the vaccine story. My guess is that they are afraid because they are in the high risk category; but I also don't think they have grasped the total propaganda capture of MSM and even the academic community and publishers.
That is my dad. He has slammed the federal government for as long as I’ve been alive. Now he’s out getting a booster shot on the first day it’s available.
I wonder if it's just because they know that to an ever greater extent they are reliant on society to care for them, provide the pension, health care, etc. They feel they have no choice but to trust them and hope.
I think that all of this devotion to allopaths and pharma are rooted in the fear of death. I expect to die. I don't fear death, so I have little use for MDs, except to stop the bleeding from injuries and the like.
Most older people remember the times when the mayor, the lawyer and the doctor were the most regarded people in the village. My parents (80+) are like that.
My wife gets the flu shot annually; I refuse to get any flu jab regardless of peer pressure. Result: she has had the flu twice, I have had it once. I treated mine with more sleep, increased intake of vitamin C, and other natural supplements. I overcame the illness rapidly whereas she takes much longer to recover. Me - 2-3 days while she takes some 7-10 days. This spans the 20+ years we have been married.
I'm 73, NEVER HAD THE FLU, except the time I was CORERCED into that horrid Bird Flu 1, sick 2 weeks, ER Trip for IV and Phenergan shot. Add Robert Yoho's BUTCHERED to your reading list to make that 20 more years medically, most of my health issues can be traced back to modern medicine, accidents are another story that has its Roots in Big Auto, Trucking, Road Builders and Government, I've not really gotten into yet. Many children's lives could have been saved from Hot cars, our Malibu has a warning when you put anything in the back seat. It is just a simple chip that could have been added to any car years ago. KENNEDY: Pentagon Study Shows Flu Shot Raises Risk Of Coronavirus By 36%, And There’s More
This won't floormat as it's a Kindle book The corporations and their paid supporters claim that Tamiflu, their flu treatment, decreases symptoms and prevents complications such as pneumonia. But the best estimate of benefit is that it may save a half-day of sickness per individual per dose when prescribed immediately after the start of symptoms. This is nearly impossible. The FDA's longstanding opinion is that Tamiflu did not affect complications, hospital admissions, or survival. It prohibited the manufacturer from making these claims. A 2014 Cochrane review concluded the drug was worthless. They included many studies not sponsored by industry. Two meta-analyses said risks were higher than the benefits. Within a day of getting the drug, panic attacks, delusions, convulsions, and even suicide have been reported. Complete information is scarce, however. Study data withheld by the manufacturer would reveal the entire truth, but so far, there have been no legal challenges to get it. Industry sources, including John Bell (Professor of Medicine at Oxford), stonewalled Cochrane’s requests for access to Roche's unpublished Tamiflu studies. He was on the board of directors for Roche, and they paid him €322,450 in 2011. Well-referenced reviews in the Huff Post and the Atlantic report that Tamiflu does not decrease the chances of pneumonia or other severe illnesses. They also describe the obscene marketing—or rather mongering—by Hoffmann-La Roche and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Despite all this, the medication had $18 billion in sales (2017). The US, Britain, and other countries were somehow cajoled into stockpiling billions of dollars’ worth. The CDC itself is compromised by millions of dollars in pharmaceutical company donations. They claim, however: “Our planners and our content experts wish to disclose they have no financial interests or other relationships with the manufacturers of commercial products… [the] CDC does not accept commercial support.” Stephen A. Sheller, a Philadelphia lawyer, said “The CDC is a disgrace. It is a corrupt organization… the drug companies have them on their payroll." Their leaders go back and forth between their government and industry jobs and buy industry stock while they are working for the Agency. The label scamiflu instead of Tamiflu went viral on the Internet. A UK National Health Service analysis (2014) agreed: “The modest benefits of Tamiflu… do not justify the increased adverse risks, let alone the money spent on them.” The WHO belatedly removed Tamiflu from their essential medications list in 2017. The flu vaccine, just like Tamiflu, supposedly prevents pneumonia and other serious problems for those who are old or sick. Cochrane had grave doubts about this, however. They reviewed 90 flu vaccination studies and considered less than 10 percent of them decent science. Industry primarily funded the trials. Cochrane said: Inactivated vaccines can reduce the proportion of healthy adults (including pregnant women) who have influenza and influenza-like-illness, but their impact is modest. We are uncertain about the effects of inactivated vaccines on working days lost or severe complications of influenza during the flu season. Despite this, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends the vaccine for nearly everyone and the World Health Organization (WHO) recommends it for vulnerable groups. Many hospitals shame nurses who refuse to get vaccinated into wearing surgical face masks, and a few even get fired. This is a $4 billion industry worldwide, and $1.6 billion is spent in the US.
Yoho MD, Robert. Butchered by “Healthcare”: What to Do About Doctors, Big Pharma, and Corrupt Government Ruining Your Health and Medical Care (pp. 66-68). Inverness Press. Kindle Edition.
Excellent! Most drugs are marketed using deceit and misdirection as a means to get approval and the FDA, being controlled by big pharma, turns a blind eye. The biggest question for big pharma is always...how can we market this new drug into a billion dollar money maker? They couldn't care less it is helps anyone to get well or if it might support health in the long run. Never taking any big pharma drugs and am treating my heart problems with herbs and supplements. No statins, coumadin, stents or all that other nonsense.
I use K2-7 Complex for my thinner. Aspirin even at 81 mg would set off the GERD bad. My arteries are clear. Lutein Blue for vision. Having had cataracts removed, at vastly different times, 17 yrs apart, 1 dropped to the center of my vision. Wrong lens, left the cornea like a football. 2nd one just the usual film but my vision went screwy, ever try to read 3 font? Ended up with Lasix to fix the issue. Still didn't get all the Astigmatism. And you get SUPER DRY EYES. AVOID RESTASIS. Use a preservative free eye drop non-oily. What works for you is trial and error. I use Soothe or Sustain. Refresh was not for me.
I was going to take 1/2 of a baby aspirin, but they contain aluminum lake. I am using super hot cayenne drops (180,000 HU), hawthorn, nattokinase and adding a few things here and there. Still researching all this. I am currently reading a book by Malcolm Kendrick called "The Clot Thickens" and it is very good. Since I do not believe cholesterol or HDL causes heart problems, this books is offering a different scenario. Also, Thomas Cowan has a few books that offer some interesting theories about the heart and heart disease.
Flu shots are fraught with problems, not the least of which is the fact that the vax makers have to make a guess as to which strains will be active in a particular flu season. Naturally, their guesses are often wrong. The flu vaccines produced don't end up matching the flu strain that becomes dominant. In such a case, you're just taking a risk on side effects for no possible benefit. I've never had a flu shot and I ain't gonna start now.
I learned from nurse they are working on combining Modern Covid rNDA with flu shot. At least for seniors. Flue may be rNDA also. Likely next years shot.
I will never see how vaccines will ever improve the human immune system. Thousands of years before vaccines were ever invented, man survived childhood just fine to evolve from millions into billions of adults. No drugs needed!
Currently reading RFK Jr's new book about Fauci (while I wait for Plandemia which I received shipping notice this morning - finally!!). Everyone needs to read RFK's book...it does an outstanding job explaining how Fauci has been (and is currently?) able to set up trials so they either succeed or fail based solely on how it benefits him. It'll make sick and angry that this has been "allowed" to continue for over 40 years.
I read both (well, listened). Highly recommend. Although I almost entirely disagree with Alex’s portrayal of Fauci’s handling of HIV-AIDS; and RFK correctly raises the underlying issues but avoids taking a stance on the conclusion. Read Duesberg’s “Inventing the AIDS Virus” and it will all make sense.
Reading it now. A couple of other good ones: "The Truth bout COVID-19" by Dr. Mercola and "Is COVID-19 a Bioweapon" by Dr. Richard M. Fleming (an MD and a JD)
I also reccommed "A Plague Upon Our House" by Dr. Scott Atlas who exposes the lack of scientific study, groupthink and corruption of Birx, Fauci and Redfield during Atlas's time on the WH Task Force. He said he could not believe that these "scientists" mispronounced scientific terms during discussions.
Yes! I should have mentioned that. It came out last year. I read it. Chelsea Green published he English translation, the same publisher who did Dr. Mercola's book.
Here's my trouble with reading the book. I am already decided on Fauci. In only the last year, he has committed abundant capital crimes in plain view that justify a capital sentence. What is there to gain from studying his preceding decades of evil? One does not need to read "Dr. Mengele: The Early Years" to understand that late-career Dr. Mengele needed to hang.
We all have a LOT of studying to do in the short time we have available. Time spent reading the biography of a psychopath is time we could have spent researching strategies for health, counteracting tyranny, and making positive contributions at work and at home.
If you've read the book and feel otherwise, I'd like to know why.
The court of public opinion matters more than one can say. Books like he Jungle and Uncle Tom's cabin were, to use a cliché, game-changers. You might not want or need to read the book, but it's an extremely important document, that like termites on wood, will eat away his reputation and expose his crimes. I can think of nothing more important. Who wants to take the advice of a criminal and a man who, among other things oversaw the use of young black orphans as guinea pigs in "medical" trials. Over 80 of them died. What will the "woke" say about that? Nothing, unless it is brought to public attention by this best-selling book.
They specialize in refusing to acknowledge anything they don't want to know. I have tried to give material that explain the risks and questions surrounding the vaccination program and they won't even read/view it.
RFK exposes the STRUCTURE that Fauci is the head of. He didn't create it by himself, it is a world wide corrupt system. EVERY major research University is beholdened to his funding and structure. Most of his funding comes through his groups funding but an increasing part comes through the MIC in the US.-- the bio-weapon stuff. "Vaccines" are a part of this-- ALL vaccines, not just the bioweapon (COVID19) renamed a vaccine by CDC etc.
Yes, when he claims "he is science", he really means it.... he controls the science through threatening to withhold funding or providing funding to get the results he wants. It's terrifying and sickening that Fauci has obtained complete control of scientific research across the globe...it's mind boggling this was allowed to happen!!
I plan to read it; haven’t yet. Friends in the gay community tell me Fauci was notorious in the ‘80s and they could never understand the awe in which he is held in the (mostly) liberal community. The broader more interesting issue for me is seeing how someone like this works and thrives in the DC environment. As a student of public administration I find it repelling, repugnant, and fascinating
That is thoroughly covered in this book...those alive in the 1980's will remember this well. I sure do....thanks to Fauci, I remember being told you could get HIV from a toilet seat....that really happened!!
They created a situation in which people were afraid of those with HIV. Where have we seen this before??? I remember it was a big deal when Princess Diana visited Aids patients and shook their hands and sat talking to them to show everyone publicly that they should not be afraid of Aids patients, that it was not transmissible by touch and proximity.
Exactly...for those of us that were teenagers/adults during the HIV epidemic this is ALL too familiar. He did the exact same thing from causing immense fear, blocked available/affordable treatments early on, stigmatized a portion of the population, and "created" a useless vaccine. It's the exact same playbook on a much larger scale.
It's not a "biography", not even close. I liken this book to a court document for upcoming mass murder/serial killer trial. It is thoroughly documented, referenced, and quotes of those that would be most certainly be called to testify in Fauci's mass murder trial. It's an excellent book for someone that wants facts, not a "storyline". Highly recommend!!
Agreed ! Here in Davos/WEF controlled Canada (even though pre-ordered) my copies of RFK still haven't arrived. SO I am doing the kindle and audio versions for now.
Oh WELL DONE ALEX!!! I too am a grateful reader and your response to the critics MADE MY DAY. I am not crazy. You are not crazy. There is something WRONG and the DATA are trying to tell us as best they can that we need to STOP and INVESTIGATE. Bravo, You are a hero. Thank you so much.
I'm spite of the deliberately opaque public health data. There's only one reason the US, and generally the West, wouldn't have excellent, granular, specific statistics at the ready. TPTB don't need that data, they already know what's happening, they keep it hidden so we look like crazy conspiracy theorists piecing it together on the many bulletin boards with webs of red string.
I hate it when you smart ones are right. But you are. I should have thought of that myself (scarecrow says). Of course, they don't want us to see the real data. (slaps forehead ).
"Something is wrong. The promises that the health authorities have made over the last 12 months about the vaccines are not coming true. Despite near-complete levels of adult vaccination in Europe, many countries are seeing skyrocketing Covid cases and deaths. And worst of all, all-cause non-Covid mortality is running well above normal in country after country."
Amen. People can nitpick about methodology and confounders but it's all a sideshow. If Covid is as dangerous as claimed, and if the vaccine worked as promised, that chart should have been impossible despite supposed data flaws. Common folks get this intuitively which is what so scares those running this debacle.
Nitpicking is what they want us to do--its a "look over here, not there" kind of exercise. We need to START at Alexs last summary statement first and do meta analysis (not stats) from there. Time to put these silly definitional games away and look at the big picture.
I believe there is a third issue with the data that I didn't see mentioned. The size of vaccinated population is calculated from the number of vaccines administered. The size of the unvaccinated population is calculated from a rough estimate of the total number of people in the UK minus the number of people vaccinated. The size of the unvaccinated population may be completely off.
This is why the loss of the long term control group for the vaccine trials is so obnoxious.
The definition is also an issue. If the vaccines are killing 30%-40% of those they kill within 2 weeks of the second dose, those deaths, often being attributed to “natural causes,” are falsely increasing the “unvaccinated” death rate. Until the definition is changed back to a sane acknowledgement of if a person got the shot, the data will be crap.
Someone needs to dig into every cardiac or unexpected “natural” death in the UK for a month to determine how skewed the “unvaccinated” group might be by the actually vaccinated but didn’t survive the full 2 weeks post “jab.”
I think they “picked” the time frame until maximum b-cell antibodies based on blood test. When the shots were clear, very early on, to make one more susceptible to Covid for at least a week afterwards they doubled down so people wouldn’t say it “gave” them Covid (even though that’s semantics - it caused people to get severely ill from Covid who otherwise wouldn’t have). To extend that definition to all-cause mortality was absolutely to hide the data. There is NO reason to categorize a heart attack death 1-week post vaccination as “unvaccinated” except to hide the vaccine deaths. If someone negative for Covid dies 1-week post vaccination then “immunity” to any virus has absolutely nothing to do with the virus, and the definition is clearly meant to hide adverse reactions from the shot.
The definition is a HUGE issue. Thats why they keep changing it. They don't care about the control group. People seem to think they want to figure if this works. They don't care, if they did, the CDC?WHO defines wouldn't keep changing, how groups collect and determine their stats (above avg. annual deaths etc.) wouldn't change as they have. They have purposely changed all that goes into data collection so they can hide the (sic) "side effects" of the vaccines. Occasionally in some countries the true trend (ie vaccinated are dying and being hospitalized more than unvaccinated) mistakenly come out-- that is what you are seeing in the UK and Israel stats.
Is that true for the UK? I thought the UK was actually separating out their fully unvaccinated vs their partially vaccinated vs their two weeks after the last shot groups.
Casey - I think they do collect that data but it's not presented in their mortality tables like that (at least from the charts I've seen that show hospitalization and death rates per 100k). Just vaxxed vs. Unvaxxed
I just checked the original data set that was used for the chart. They have four categories: Unvaccinated, Within 21 says of first dose, 21 days after first dose, second dose. So the "vaccinated" category would include anybody who died due to complications from the second dose.
I agree. The Covid surveillance report breaks it into categories but they don’t appear to be doing that on all cause mortality reports which aren’t included in the Covid report as only Covid deaths are (not non-Covid deaths).
They are only separating the data for the Covid surveillance report - Covid positive tests, Covid positive hospitalizations, and Covid positive deaths. The Covid surveillance report doesn’t address all cause mortality (that’s another report). That standard report doesn’t break out deaths by vaccination status for all-cause, but the raw data has only 2 categories - vaccinated and unvaccinated. It doesn’t have the Covid report level of data based on vaccination timing (at least not the all cause death data I can find on the UK gov releases).
This data has a few different vaccine categories that includes the time after the 1st dose and immediately after the 2nd dose. And yes, it looks worse when you add all the vaccinated categories together.
I'm not 100% certain, so be careful here, but I spent quite a bit of time poring over a few weeks' worth of their "vaccine surveillance" reports. They break out the population by age and "vaccination" status. The only way I could get the numbers to make sense is if "unvaccinated" means everybody who isn't two weeks past their second jab. Because they have categories like "Received one dose (1-20 days before specimen date)" and "Received one dose, ≥21 days before specimen date", you are led to believe that their "Not vaccinated" category means no jabs at all. That had me confused for a long time.
Again, I have no way of being certain, but if this is true (as I believe), then "unvaccinated" includes vaccine-injured people and people who maybe would have died from C19, but the shot got them instead.
I saw this too. But they appear to be limiting that data to Covid surveillance, not all cause mortality.
Unless they release the raw data for all deaths, and include the time from shots or lack there of, the mortality data is crap when looking to see the impact of getting the shots. The people I know who died from “natural” causes between 40-50 were at incredibly low risk from the virus as all 3 were healthy and active with no underlying health conditions beyond one having mild environmental allergies.
I totally agree with the criticisms of their data and I believe it's presented disingenuously to push the vaccines, but compared to data (un)available in the U.S. they are the pinnacle of honesty.
Absolutely agree. Our reporting Stoney’s and we are surrounded by docs (our home, in all sides it’s MDs). The one who has run the local ED said administration is changing his reports and has been since April 2020.
Where do those with one vax shot land? Are they included in the unvaxxed numbers, along with those within two weeks of second jab? If so, that weighs down the overall health picture of the unvaxxed.
My stats are similar... 66 years old, unvaccinated, regular trips to all sorts of places, plus, I work full time and interact with 20 or 30 different people 6 days a week. Have never been sick, not for 3 or more years, Haven't had any vaccines for longer than I can remember. End of Story, Take care of your health, drink lots of water, exercise and eat good food!
Same here, I have changed absolutely nothing about my comings and goings in the last 2 years, and not even a sniffle. There is a huge power grab going on under the scam that is c*vid, but many are not aware at all. It is quite terrifying, how can people not see that which is literally under their nose???. Astounding. And I will never have the Jab, ever. Unfortunately for me I live in England, one of the most corrupt Countries in the World.
The only thing that's changed for me is I don't go into the office occasionally like I use to since they are still in panic mode and demand the vax or the test. I'm like, whatever, I don't mind working from home 100% of the time anyway; in fact, it's kindof nice... :)
Me too! No toxic shots, never have had a test yet to see if I was sick ( we all know how useless and dangerous the tests are), think I had Covid in mid October as I lost my sense of smell and taste all at once for eight days, but it all came back. I never wear a mask...anywhere, have never used the hand disinfectant everyone throws at you, I use soap and water, and I spend many hours every week teaching kids and adults of all ages...privately! Have been taking Vitamin D3, Zinc + C, and eating healthy always. Covid was basically nothing for me, a runny nose and a bit tired...and the loss of the senses-that was really strange! Thanks Alex for your work and your passion in revealing the truth....and for the commenters who support you ...cannot wait to read Bobby Kennedy's new book....I also hope I can control my anger! I am 59 by the way.....and the death shots need to stop. What upsets me the most is the high level of compliance everywhere..I will never comply! I will always resist....civil disobedience is the only way out of this disaster called Covid...sadly our vote today in Switzerland went to the yes camp....it is a let down, but we will keep fighting for what is right.
Having turned 80 this year, and still possessing most of my faculties, to "Booster" or not is a nagging dilemma. I am not a natural born skeptic, Polio was the scourge of my childhood....so, I took all of the recommended vaccines, and I have never been truly sick in my life...aside from an occasional bout of Gin-Fever! Something happens when the calendar says....80 years old! That is really OLD! My doctor, who is very conservative, and has expressed his concerns about the "jab" in the past, is now recommending the booster. But, my "healthy as a horse" 83 year old brother-in-law died of a heart attack 2 weeks after having received his 2nd Pfizer shot. Never had any heart problems before. The docs insist it was not related to the vaccine....??
My point, I suppose, is how maddening it is that this Covid-mess has been created by our inept government, literally and figuratively! It has been politicized to the point that we have ZERO CONFIDENCE in anything they say or do. But, I am not ready to die.....and....living in fear and confusion, I suspect, may be just as damaging as just taking the damn booster.
Well, sir, with all respect, sincerely, I don't think you should receive the booster. Of course I say that not knowing the level of your ability to function in your society without a "pass".
Let's see if we can square this circle. The thing that was supposed to "save" us from a virus we don't really need saving from failed miserably, and yet with the new moronic variant hysteria they're advocating for more of the same thing that failed miserably for the last variant. I can't offer Kim K's ass either, but maybe this is all about something else entirely?
I read the article and several statistical reviews. I think the chart was good to gain attention, and I found the statistical reviews informative (they did find an increase in all cause mortality in the vaccinated, with levels rising, but not to the point they double overall all cause mortality).
Beyond that I now know 3 healthy dads that died since October 1st between the ages of 40-50 (the most recent dropped dead while mountain biking within the last 2 weeks - no accident, just dropped dead. Autopsy in process).
I do think it’s inaccurate to imply the vaccine is causing all cause mortality to be fully double in the vaccinated v unvaccinated group because of the age skewing, which is greater than any underlying co-morbid disease difference. The physiological insinuation is also assumption - personally, the healthier people I know are far more scared of the vaccine, on average, than the less healthy who are terrified of Covid (oddly, even if they have recovered).
What does concern me is the rise in unexplained or cardiac related mortality in the vaccinated group. Even 1 death per 100,000 makes these vaccines very dangerous for the vast majority of the population that faces a lower risk from SARS-cov-2. It also suggest we should be focusing on early treatment, not mass vaccinations correlated to worse population wide outcomes. Most of the actually vulnerable are already dead. Fifty year olds getting early treatment die at lower rates than 1 in 100,000. Even unhealthy 25 year olds with no treatment die at a much lower rate. My true fear is vaccine induced mortality is closer to 1 in 25,000 which is awful. They pulled the H1N1 vaccine within the last decade for causing severe insomnia at similar rates…… and these are actual lives. Human beings who still had lives to lead. Some of them children.
Can you find data with more nuanced age groups? I do appreciate the focus on this stuff. These vaccines are at best simply not working with mass vaccination (this robbing the genuinely elderly of even temporary protection). More likely they are lethal. They don’t need to kill as many people under 65 as auto accidents or overdose deaths to be awful. Graphs showing increased mortality excluding accidental deaths would clearly differentiate the groups, but I find that data hard to find.
They aren’t offering any durable protection, so every death from the vaccines is an unnecessary tragedy - particularly when the deaths occur in someone coerced into taking it to keep a job or remain enrolled in school.
One of the things they are not considering with myocarditis is the risk of repeated exposure. In response to vaccine hesitancy due to myocarditis the response is that myocarditis is worse from covid, but you may only get covid once in your entire life. Meanwhile you are getting a vaccine every year, twice considering boosters, and now they are suggesting boosters every 3 months. That is 4x a year that you are taking an injection that can cause myocarditis, compared to the risk of getting covid sometime in your lifetime.
Despite possibilities like the unvaccinated group skewing healthier and younger, doesn't this data definitively disprove the existence of an extremely dangerous virus combined with a highly effective vaccine?
An extremely dangerous virus would significantly increase the mortality in both groups, while a highly effective vaccine would then go and cause a big reduction in mortality in the vaccinated group. But that's not what we're seeing. Please do correct me if there's a flaw in my logic.
Do these numbers exist for previous years? The are plenty of other factors involved of course, but comparing 2019 (no COVID, no vaccine) with 2020 (COVID but no vaccine) and 2021 (COVID and vaccine) would be an interesting start.
Alex should mention 2004. That was the year flu vaccines were in “critically “ short supply. Interestingly, the official flu death rates for that year barely deviated from any other year.
Excellent point! I forgot that. I was on a Primary Care hospital board during SARS (2003) and you just jogged my memory -- yes that was the case in Toronto-- part of getting us afraid (their form of fear porn then) "oh no"🙄
Yes! I'm in Canada and remember that attempt to scare people. Didn't work. This time though the scammers and schemers figured out how to get to people. Sad.
Italian newspaper Il Tempo reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes Toby Young.
Those are infections. We're talking deaths. At the time, they had the same debates we had going about over stating 'with' and 'from' Covid deaths. There were a couple of prominent Italian doctors from the largest hospitals who claimed this at the time. On the flip side, it's been asserted it's under reported as well. Citing 'all cause mortality' as being much higher. All I know is where I am in Canada, c. 80% of this province's deaths were in nursing homes and in the 70+ demographic with co-morbordities. We could have avoided that and prevented some deaths if we offered therapeutics. Man made this thing worse than it needed to be.
bravo alex - way to acknowledge your opposing critiques and counterarguments and further explore your questions and points. Something is very strange with both the outcomes and the unilateralism of the worldwide covid regime, and you are a legend for nutting up and speaking into the wind. huge props to you!
Oh dear. I am sorry to learn that I am some kind of vaccine fanatic. This is odd as I am not vaccinated and will not get vaccinated with any of the currently available products. I will go to prison rather than take an mRNA or vector vaccine, and that is now a real possibility in my country.
"They have identified and latched on to ONE complication of using population-level data to judge vaccine effectiveness - the fact that differing rates of uptake by age may make the Covid vaccines seem less effective than they are. "
Your original claim boiled down to "vaccinated die more frequently", and if true that would indicate a problem with vaccine safety, not efficacy. The distinction between efficacy and safety is important. We know the efficacy of the vaccine does not last long. We also know the safety is questionable (but from other data like VAERS, not this data), and that as a result the benefit/risk ratio is low in young people with little to fear from infection, certainly compared to elderly, institutionalised people at high risk of death from infection.
"the two objections effectively cancel each other out "
Not really, because an observation of one effect in one age group has nothing to do with a countervailing effect in another.
The ONS data as broken down by age group is essentially worthless for answering questions about vaccine efficacy and safety. It can only tell us what is going on in terms of overall mortality in that population.
One may even speculate that the age breakdown is done deliberately to obfuscate things and make the data worthless for evaluating any effect (efficacy or safety) of the vaccines. Certainly, in my long experience in this field, the use of a 10-59 years band in any analysis of effect of medicines by age group is unique.
Yes, I don't think it's right to dismiss anyone who questioned the original data as a vaccine fanatic any more than someone who is fully vaccinated but questions mandates should be called an "antivaxxer."
There are those of us who are on the side of trying to untangle what is going on here and those of them who are trying to suppress the truth. Question Everything, and that includes, sometimes, questioning Alex Berenson. The problem with having thoughtful, skeptical readers is that we are going to keep calling him out-- and at the same time, we'll be the first ones to have his back when the legacy media comes with their pitchforks.
Many interesting points in this thread, but none that seriously address the central problem with last week's post. Disappointed that Alex doesn't see that and disparages folks just trying to keep Team Reality to it's name.
I agree, very disappointing response. The 4-part series in www.covid-datascience.com, just to cite one example, was thorough and pretty devastating to Alex's arguments, as well as being a clearly superior examination of the data. Alex's response not only sidesteps that riposte, it pretends that the arguments of the ripostes, e.g., Simpson's paradox, don't even exist. I think better of Alex than to believe he's traded in intellectual honesty for having a loyal following; those shouldn't be mutually exclusive. The very simple truth here is that people who understand data far better than he does, reach different conclusions, and can demonstrate his errors. He'd be more credible just deferring on this one.
Couldn’t agree more. We have to be careful or we’ll just see what we want to see, much like the covidians who see death lurking behind every unmasked face.
I know that Covid is nothing to worry about for most people.
I know the vaccines are neither safe nor effective.
I want hard evidence of that ... something irrefutable so this madness can end.
I too want hard evidence, but I realize we NEVER get that in any area using human beings to define, collect and measure things they have bias about or interests $ in.
BTW not sure this" madness" (trying to get to the truth, letting people decide if they want to risk their lives--is it really ours to change?) ends. Be present, focus on love.
By madness, I mean lockdowns, vaccine mandates, etc. I don't care to persuade anyone about vaccine safety or efficacy. Live and let live. I just don't want to be forced to get a vaccine, or to go through another lockdown. I'm thinking more about personal freedom and civil liberties.
What is notable is that Alex doesn't engage directly with critics or critiques. Instead, he throws out this kind of un-interrogated red meat to a mostly adoring readership who will, in the vast majority, merely accept his conclusions uncritically. The irony here is that kind of behavior exactly mirrors the behaviors he criticizes from the medical establishment. He throws out a vague conflation of correlation with causation under an umbrella of "just asking questions" under a cover plausible deniability - and then selectively cherry-picks snippets of criticism so as to support pre-conceived counterarguments. Then he boastfully touts his own "expertise" as some kind of appeal to his own authority. It's a toxic mix, and not at all what we need as a way to wade through the vast amount of information being poured out in our direction. Unfortunately, with Alex it's more about Alex then anything else.
It's interesting how measured, modest and careful he was in the recent Rogan interview. Seems to contrast with some of what's been seen here on Substack.
Your original claim boiled down to "vaccinated die more frequently", and if true that would indicate a problem with vaccine safety, not efficacy. Not necessarily-- not sure how you feel this is indicated. Measurement? no questions about how that is done?
What do we care about in terms of vaccine efficacy? We care about keeping people out of coffins. People in the age group 10-59 do die of coronavirus infection, but so few of them do that a vaccine signal simply cannot turn up in that group.
You can measure vaccine efficacy in terms of self-reported infection as was done in the clinical trials, but this is at best a surrogate endpoint for the clinically relevant endpoint of death.
Isn't the central point that governments have foisted a universal, experimental injection upon the hundreds of millions of Americans (and people abroad) who were always at functionally zero risk?
Absolutely. It is almost unthinkable how badly our reaction has been. Preventing actual loss of life should have been the focus. Successful treatment strategies (such as Drs. Brian Tyson, Frontline Docs, Pierre Kory, Zev Zelenko) should have been made widely available and adapted/changed with rapidly developing knowledge. Crisis mgt 101. Correlation to obesity, vitamin D deficiency, etc. should have been common knowledge by spring 2020. When this didn't happen, we gave our 3 letter agencies the benefit of the doubt for "winging it" for a while but over time, bureaucratic incompetence could no longer explain what we witnessed.
It is beyond a travesty to let the vulnerable languish for a false panacea in the "vaccine" and to rob real life experience to the vast majority, young thru middle age, with a 99.7% or better chance of survival. The level of mass delusion ("mass formation?") is stunning. But we will survive this darkest of times. It is in our nature and cannot be injected out.
That's probably true for most people, but not for me. I have no fear whatsoever of death, nor of dying, which is not the same thing, though obviously related. I honestly can't remember ever having been afraid of death, but I certainly have no fear of it now that I've been very close to it several times during my lifetime. (I'm 65.)
Each of the several times I was near death, or else was miraculously gifted with a brief experience of Higher Reality, I was disappointed when I realized I had to come back to my body and stay here on earth for longer. I’m ready to die at any time, and have been for many years.
The reality we experience while living in our human bodies is insubstantial and insipid compared to the higher reality we return to when we die. If what we experience here on earth is "real," then what we experience once we're finally fully out of our bodies is "hyper-real." I've experienced this. It's as different as night is from day.
I’ve been looking at the obituary pages in my local paper lately and I noticed there were several people who died that were in the 40’s to 60’s age range, which is rather strange given that you usually only see the elderly in the obits. 1 of the obits mentioned Covid as cause of death. I would lay money that the person was probably vax’d.
I know 3 healthy fathers that died since October 1 between 40-50. One was thought to have died in a single car accident, but autopsy revealed he was dead prior to impact from an aneurysm. Another died in his sleep. The 3rd one dropped dead mountain biking - no accident, just dropped dead while riding.
Before this year of knew maybe 2 people who just dropped dead under the age of 50 my entire life. This year there were 3 in 7 weeks. That’s terrifying.
That’s for sure. The sad thing is the under the radar stuff they kind of admit to. The swelling might be temporary for all these young men and boys, but the damage is permanent. Decades are being taken off their life, while there quality of life is being destroyed. My husband played soccer in college. I’ve always been an athlete. We are still very active. Having that taken from either of us today would be awful. The thought of having it taken as teenagers or young adults is devastating. It would have destroyed our motivation in life. I can’t believe how indifferent the general public is to the damaging impact on young people, who aren’t at risk from the virus, but are having their quality of life destroyed by these vaccines.
Adults are supposed to protect children. The old are not supposed to demand the sacrifice of the young to appease their fears. It’s all so against the natural order of things. It’s evil.
Minerva - I have seen SO many of these. Many do not say cause of death but most imply a short illness or a sudden death. I am so curious if there's anything to this.
I read the Obits regularly too, I always have, I'm just weird that way I guess. I too have seen much more not elderly " died suddenly " obits. One said sudden unexpected death of a 45 year old who died on his couch while watching a baseball game...
The UK officials could, of course, unconfound that chart by breaking the 10-59 group into 10-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, and 50-59 just like they do with those over age of 60. That they don't do this is a tell, in my not so humble opinion.
Alex did you see Mathew Crawford's reanalysis that accounts for population age? It shows precisely zero benefit (so not negative efficacy but obviously still showing a complete failure)
I read this but the thing missing from all the data, making the data crap, are the people who die from the vaccine less than 2 weeks post second “Jab.” Because these deaths are being inexplicably labeled “natural causes,” and the individuals who die are considered “unvaccinated,” the numbers are skewed.
I hope someone picks a month and digs into every unexplained or cardiac related death in the UK of the under 65 population to see how many are in the “unvaccinated” but actually got 1-2 shots category.
Are you sure those cases are not rolled into "21 or more days past first dose"?
However I'm not certain whether either of the analyses include the "partial" categories. By rights they belong in the vaccinated category for this analysis. But based on the labels of the graph, I think they are only looking at unvaccinated and 14 days post dose 2 columns.
If this is the case, then surely the corrected analysis WOULD show negative efficacy if those numbers were included.
Surely Alex knows about Matthew Crawford's article, but he doesn't mention it. I kept looking for Alex to mention "Simpson's Paradox" in this article. I get that a response of sorts is in this article. Different population characteristics prevent direct comparison. But those properly cautious about mRNA vaccines have to be very careful. The chart that went "viral" was misrepresented by those who made it viral. They drew conclusions that were speculative. To your and Matthew Crawdord's point, that is not necessary. Lack of efficacy is enough. No need to leap to negative efficacy. It may be true that there is negative efficacy from mRNA vaccines over medium and longer term. But lack of efficacy is pretty damning at this stage. No need to stretch.
I agree. The rush to eliminate the control group by the very people who have the only full access to the raw data is what makes me suspicious these deaths are more than qualitative personal observations. The fact deaths are up, be it from the vaccine or the useless mitigation, make clear this stuff is harming, not helping. Mandating a useless vaccine is crazy - like burning young women at the stake or killing kids to (not actually) make it rain.
The rush in NY to cancel surgeries for cancer and nearly everything else, especially considering the nursing home fiasco, makes me more suspicious. It’s not sane to shutdown access to healthcare now for something that may or may not be an issue in 2 months or 3 months or never. That stuff, combined with millions of starvation deaths in poorer countries, and addiction as well as accidental deaths going up in the West, make me very very suspicious that this is an intentional attempt at a mass death.
Destroying an entire generation of US kids with zero evidence of positive effect on a virus, and very far from any evidence it was ever “necessary,” leads me to conclude this is all intentional with each illiberal leftist political entity playing their part in the mob hysteria - no need for direct instruction - the message is clear and the followers are stepping up to do their part with no concern for the final goal, only for the leftist insanity.
The same way the exit from Afghanistan, particularly relating to strategically important Bagram air base with 2 of the most advanced and inexplicably still fully functional runways on the planet, was so far passed incompetent it seems to be outright intentional.
I’m not even sure the end goal, if there ever was one, actually matters. I think it’s just insanity for the sake of “winning” a silly power struggle.
The is no negative efficacy from mRNA technology (not a vaccine sorry) because there is no medium to long term use to get data from . HOWEVER there is lots of research by Dr. Malone (creator) and other mRNA experts that have shown Prion, Autoimmune, Heart issues are coming.
Yes there is negative efficiency data - spread increases dramatically once a population reaches a critical mass of vaccinated individuals. The vaccines are fueling spread. That’s negative efficiency.
That shows negative efficiency because if it were natural viral curves you couldn’t predict exactly when the spread in certain areas would occur. Yet many, including Alex, have been. Do was one of the early states to mass vaccinate and have people still intermingle. So was VT which saw the “delta” spread around the same time as FL (though it was mostly ignored). While seasonal patterns impact severity, The UK wouldn’t have preceded its same longitude European neighbors by the exact difference in the time to vaccinate a critical mass to cause increased spread (which is about 3 months). Alex correctly predicted what is happening right now in Western Europe 3 months ago because it was predictable. The first week of November I correctly predicted an disproportionate uptick in kids testing positive for Covid beginning around Thanksgiving. It’s not from being super genius humans - it’s from noticing predictable patterns and saying (or typing) them out loud.
I should be more clear, it's a little disappointing to me that Alex didn't issue a correction of sorts. I mean, the graph is "true" but also truthfully misleading. It gives pro-vax people something to latch onto that a critical thinking person will correctly see as being a misleading statistic (and the stat doesn't pass the smell test to start with - 2x death rate is impossible to not notice!). Maybe by now we're beyond the point of convincing anyone with data, but it just doesn't seem necessary when a more correct analysis still produces a significant problem.
What? The what would be vaccinating the masses. To whom is lack of efficacy not enough to stop mass vaccination, particularly of the low risk???? Why would one get a useless medication that can only can have downside risk?
Hi NCmom, I believe many vaccinated people see a significant "lack of efficacy" relative to their expectations; so do many independent data analysts and research scientists in the field and so does Tony Fauci for that matter. Moreover, this lack of efficacy has been more or less evident for quite some time. And yet this evident lack of efficacy has done precisely NOTHING to stop mass vaccination; not of the low risk and not even of the NO risk.
Clearly, lack of efficacy isn't stopping, or even slowing down, the warp-speed vaccine train. So, if this is not the time to talk about negative efficacy and increased overall mortality, when will it be time?
A study of human history and authoritarianism might better explain the situation. Absolutely nothing about the previous administration was authoritarian. Nothing. But squawking about it for 4 years conditioned the large, stupid, and gullible portions of society, which are large, to accept complete authoritarianism from “their” team……….. it’s about compliance, nothing at all to do with a virus.
If the mRNA "vaccines" lack efficacy, then forced vaccination and prohibition of off-label drugs fail. Of course, FDA, CDC and Pharma deny this. But Matthew Crawford's analysis shows this. No need to get to negative efficacy / lack of safety.
That's Alex's focus right now. So no need to go to negative efficacy.
I agree with Steve Kirsch that the mRNA technology is unsafe, but isn't that beyond what Alex has been reporting on?
I did. But without TRUE MEANINGFUL DATA, they are both only doing the best they can. When you put the single dose, double dosed not 14 days out into the unvaxxed category, you have more than just Simpsons paradox. And until they redo the data to account for this, you have to admit no matter what, it needs further investigation. CLOSE investigation by age, properly defined as to vaxed/unvaxxed. And that should be GOAL NUMBER ONE.
The spreadsheet splits out the data into 4 categories (vax, partial<21d, partial>21d, full) - so I don't think those partial cases are included in "not vaccinated". I think those partial categories are ignored in Alex's chart and in Mathew's analysis also. But I agree that it would be nice to re-do the analysis including the partial categories! And I also agree that UK has this data, they should release a proper analysis or just the raw data listing date of vaccination and/or death and hospitalizations for anonymized individuals.
But that’s only the data as it relates to Covid. The surveillance reports don’t address non-Covid related mortality. A heart attack 5 days post-op, or 5 months, or with no shots, wouldn’t show up on the Covid surveillance reports.
In their "vaccine surveillance" weekly reporting, I'm pretty sure unjabbed-at-all would be Total - (partial<21d, partial>21d, full); and that "not vaccinated" is anybody not more than two weeks past their second jab. It's the only way I could get the numbers to make sense. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that's also the case in the spreadsheet. I'm not 100% certain in either case - I would love to see analyses by a competent statistician.
Yes, you're right. I haven't looked at that for a while and was going by memory. Sorry about mis-stating that. It's where they show the rates per 100,000 population that the definition of "unvaccinated" changes. Having tables where the numbers clearly add up, as you point out, leads one to believe that "unvaccinated" means exactly that. And it does, until it doesn't.
Incidentally, in the later weekly reports, the rates per 100,000 were moved to a separate table which, intentionally or not, tends to make it even harder to make sense of their data.
No worries! We're all trying to figure this stuff out. Actually, I also didn't think that the non-vaxx column for cases/100K was including partial vax.
That’s Covid positive test results for those under 18. Nothing to do with deaths at all. The hospitalizations and deaths on the next pages are only relating to Covid positive people and Covid positive deaths (not all cause mortality).
I thought Dan was referring to the 'vaccine surveillance reports', and saying that the categories in those tables were not disjoint - but they seem to be. They also seem to be disjoint for the all cause spreadsheet tables.
That’s only relating to Covid deaths, not all cause mortality. If the vaccines are causing heart attacks, it doesn’t show up on that report. Only Covid positive deaths do
Yes, I agree, I was responding to Dan who said that he thought the unvaccinated column also included the "partials" and the numbers didn't add up in those reports; but when I add them up it seems like the 4 categories are disjoint. I'm assuming they use the same methodology for the all cause mortality spreadsheet. When I add up those numbers, they all sum to approximately the same amount over time, even as the partials vary quite a bit, so I think that in that case also, the 4 categories are disjoint.
So I read in RFK jr’s book that Dr. Feces never presented one study, or even mentioned a treatment algorithm for Covid. He said stay home and quarantine until can’t breathe. Then we will put you on a ventilator and kill you.
Wanna know why? Because you can’t declare Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for a vaccine if there are other treatment options available.
These monsters killed hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions across the world.
That's what I read months ago also. It's all smoke and mirrors meant to divide, conquer, and kill. I'm sure there were low level scientists trying to do good work, but the guys at the top, they were all working with Lefticrat party elites to cause as much death and disruption as possible. They created the emergency being exploited across the globe.
Their own numbers condemn them. If you believe vaccines are beneficial, as the vaxxism practitioners do, then they're failing to reach the most vulnerable population -- unhealthy seniors. Meanwhile, they want to vaccinate 1 million teenagers to prevent 8,000 cases and 1 death.
At this point I question any type of vax for a senior....sick or not. Eat right, exercise, wash hands and use good common sense around crowds if you are older and have comorbidities. I am to the point I trust very few in the health establishment.
Whew. Alex... thanks so much for this. I had posted this study to other comment sections saying pretty much what you summarize:
"Something is wrong. The promises that the health authorities have made over the last 12 months about the vaccines are not coming true. Despite near-complete levels of adult vaccination in Europe, many countries are seeing skyrocketing Covid cases and deaths. And worst of all, all-cause non-Covid mortality is running well above normal in country after country."
And they went nuts!
This says it all:
"These folks think they are sophisticated thinkers who have blown up apparent evidence that the vaccines are dangerous. In fact, just as they have for the last several months, they are telling themselves what they want to hear instead of listening to what the data are saying - and, increasingly, shouting."
I was lambasted with claims like "this is disinformation, you are dangerous and should be censored!"
There is no real intellectual curiosity nor intellectual honesty with the COVID vaccine cult. Not only is it impossible reason with them, but there is really no ability to engage in intellectual debate... no matter how clear is the data challenging their "science".
But here is why I think some of them are so determined to build their fortress of defense. The corporate media is continuing to deliver pandemic propaganda. I don't watch much TV "news", but I do listen to the radio and read newspapers. Biden dollars are also being used for government-paid "public service" advertising. There is a strong and consistent message that pushes this narrative that COVID is dangerous to all and everyone needs to be vaccinated.
Because of this and other dots I can connect, I am convinced that this is a PLANDEMIC and the Billionaire Boys Club, the globalists and the Democrats are all colluding to extend the chaos being caused as the catalyst for their Great Reset "Build Back Better" project. The pandemic gave the American Democrats the mail-in-ballot justification. Without it Trump would still be POTUS and the Senate still in GOP hands... and the Trump anti-globalist project would have made more progress. But the Democrats had failed to get their pet legislation passed (permanent mail-in ballots, immigrants give voting rights, and more massive social spending), and now they are in trouble leading into the mid-terms. So they NEED the pandemic to carry them through the 2022 election at least... so they can again cheat in the election and stuff more reliable Democrat favoring mailed ballots in the box.
I believe we are in WWIII and the pandemic is the new nuclear weapon. Thank God for people like Alex and platforms like Substack. With them we might again defeat the enemy of the world and get back to peace and prosperity.
Please don't downvote, I'm only the messenger (I know, it sounds a bit like a rambling incoherent Biden, but, no it is in fact Trump):
TRUMP: "I don't like [mandates], but I think you should. Look, I took it. I took the vaccine. I was proud to do it. Somebody said, oh, sir, maybe you know it’s a little controversial. Don't mention. Now just the opposite. I’m very proud."
"We did something in nine months – less than nine months that wasn’t doable in five years. Fauci said it would take more than five years, and who knows if it’s going to work. It really works well, and even the people that get it they don't end up going to the hospital – they don't die. But sometimes the person will – you know, very rarely, but the people get it. You know they make a big deal out of that, but people get it but they don't die. They don't go to the hospital even. It’s a great thing that we did and, you know, I’m never going – I’m never going to disown it. I think I saved tens of billions of people all over the world. (Inaudible)."
"Was mislead"? Operation Warp Speed was two years ago. In 2021 he's saying, "take the jab." Is he still being misled? And, I presume, you would like someone who is easily misled to be president. BTW, I wasn't misled; not then, not now.
I do not think he should run for president but not because he allowed himself to be misled. He is viewed by far too many people as a horrible person(some of his actions as president as well as before and since are, as the wicked witch of the east said, deplorable). He would never be capable of uniting the citizens of the US. We need a president capable of uniting us once again unlike the current houseplant-in-chief…
I consider anyone who wants to rule me as a horrible person. Some are less horrible than others. Trump is one of the least horrible. Dont confuse gruff with horrible.
Ballots always include "sucks" and "sucks less." "Doesn't suck" never runs. Always vote "sucks less."
lol. the last person i voted FOR was ross perot. that doesn't mean i haven't voted since then, i just voted against the 'really sucks' candidate. i liked trump as our president. i think he did more (and acted more like a leader) of americans than any president in the modern era. i just think he will not be able to overcome the voters who will vote against him for whatever straw man(or woman) the dems install as their candidate in the next election. however, i will vote FOR him if he is nominated as the alternative will undoubtedly be in the 'really sucks' or 'is satans minion' category...
Whatever anyone tells themselves, we vote FOR policies and a person in an election unless it’s a recall. Too many failed to realize that and we got Brandon.
Some wish their politicians to be administrators, public employees. Some wish their politicians to be benevolent gods, making their lives wonderful. I would like for no one to be a public god. Competent administrators make mistakes. The good ones correct them and move on. Maybe President Scooter will not make mistakes.
We don't do that in the US. We catch one breaking the law now and then and lock him up. Useful warning to the others. Probably not often enough. Pelosi's insider trading might be a candidate.
Try and point out to one of the hard core MAGA Trump "supporters" something he did wrong and see who considers some public figure to be like an infallible "god". I could tell you what that's like but you can't possibly imagine it until you've experienced it (like I have for 6 years running). Oh, and unlike Trump, I'm a conservative (based on the judgement bestowed upon Trump by none other than Rush Limbaugh, "I wish Trump was a conservative but we didn't get a conservative."-Rush Limbaugh (circa 2015).
Same is true for hard core joe supporters. I try to avoid both. When confronted by them I only offer ridicule.
The problem with expecting politicians to be "like me" is nobody is like me. Or you. Which is probably a good thing, but certainly makes life more interesting. Perfect ain't gonna happen. Best we can hope for is "better."
I see how his fans are saying he was misled, but does Trump say the same thing? He seems to think that he has accomplished something rather than that he made a mistake. Trump is a fraud.
Developing a vax in the face of a highly lethal virus was the correct response. Getting it done quickly was miraculous. He knew he was being rolled when they banned hcq. His problem from day one was the deep state. The failure wasn't Trump, it was the seditious government.
There was/is no "highly lethal virus", and if there was, treatments would be in order, not vaccines. You seem to have bought all the TV propaganda that has been spread around ever since this scam started.
Operation warp speed funded both vaccines snd therapeutics. Trump was attacked mercilessly for demanding people gave the right to try HCQ and Ivermectin.
Comparing the authoritarian loving losers that have taken over the Democrat party and are destroying the country, and really the world, via executive orders is NOT the same as having a different opinion on the vaccine while fully supporting individual choice….
Conflate the two and don’t complain when things go predictably bad as they have with Brandon.
Yes, I was there and I saw what went on. Trump did state that people should have a choice to use the same drugs he was usng. No argument there. Still, he went whole hog with the whole scam, which was and is still, an imaginary virus and a "pandemic" by proclamation only. The WHO changed the definition of the word pandemic so that this fake pandemic could be declared.
Trump went along with that. I don't think he's an idiot, so how did he miss the obvious fakery? Blame it on his advisors, but it was his job to examine what was going on and he went along with it, even pretending to have "covid" for a few days.
You're conflating my criticism of Trump with being some kind of Biden supporter. I despise Biden and his party as much as anyone does. I am sure that the 2020 election was stolen, with Trump's knowledge and assent. If you get all of your facts from TV news, you probably need to read this series of articles. Start with the 1st chapter and the others will be linked on that same site:
I think you're right. The still small voice. In the midst of all this madness: there's no 'emergency'. We've dealt with worse than this before without a fraction of this madness.
From the first day, I saw that this is a fraud. Not being a TV watcher, it was a few days before I read anything about the fakeout, but there were clues already in the behavior of people around here. Toilet paper disappeared from stores, just as that was predicted to happen ( but didn't) during the '09 swine flu "epidemic".
TV addicts were already starting to show up in stores wearing dust masks and dishwashing gloves, though they were a tiny fraction of the shoppers. Libtards that I knew started bumping elbows with each other instead of shaking hands or hugging.
Once I found info online to read, I saw that the official story was ludicrous, and most of the columnists that I usually read pointed out the absurdities of the official narrative. Jon Rappaport wrote a piece demanding proof of the existence of the "virus" and from that day, none has ever been presented.
It's an imaginary plague and the "vaccines" are bioweapons. I'm going to unsub from this stack because the author buys the whole covid myth and that skews his conclusions. Another stack that I like is https://donaldjeffries.substack.com/
I would vote for Trump again, but that doesn’t mean I’d take medical advice from him. None of these people know what they are talking about, the difference is Democrats mandate you agree with their unscientific bs (like biological men being the first female anything), while Trump and Republicans will say their thoughts then let people make up their own darn minds.
Quoting Trump as to the efficacy of the jab is useless. He isn’t a doctor. He isn’t scouring databases to find data that proves(or disproves) his statement. He is getting information from the same people who are pushing the jab now. He also is pretty arrogant and proud that the jab was developed under his administration in far less time than it was estimated by the so-called experts so he sees that as a win and it is only a win if the jab works. Maybe he is unaware(or was at the time of his statement) that ‘vaccinated’ people do wind up in the hospital and they do die. Or maybe he is ignoring the truth because he wants to be included in the praise for the jab. He got Covid and was given a cocktail of drugs that had him back up and around in a few days. Probably a similar cocktail to what Joe Rogan used. That cocktail should have been widely available to everyone world wide after it was proven effective on an obese man in his mid 70’s(you know, the group most likely to be seriously ill or die from the bug)…
Scooter, don’t be ridiculous. He didn’t do it single-handedly. I agree with you that he should shut up about it other than to say it should be freedom of choice. He’s too arrogant to do so. I didn’t vote for him as a moral compass. I voted for him to be CEO of USA. He was the best one in my lifetime with only Reagan a distant second.
Trump gave us the jab, single-handedly. He also single-handedly gave us perpetual Obamacare, by making illegal subsidy payments for two years (DYOD). He did lots single-handedly that served to destroy our rights and freedoms and liberty. Oh, he also single-handedly banned inert gun stocks (again, unlawfully), which paved the way for O'Biden to single-handedly impose equally unlawful mandates.
he was the 'ceo' of the operation. something of that magnitude has never been done single-handedly. he put the right people in place to make the right decisions for what was a noble cause. the jab has been bastardized and monetized beyond belief and no one can single-handedly reverse the direction we are headed(to hell in a handbasket) but the current administration is on board with 'the religion of the jab' cult. they will push it until it pops out of the backs of our skulls...
Trump also single-handedly brought LGBTQ into the RNC and just last week hosted the LCR "gala" at Mar-a-Largo to celebrate "gay pride". Trump does a lot single-handedly he doesn't get credit for.
Again, he spearheaded that(I didn’t know or really care). He lead it. That is what leaders do. I can single-handedly do things around the house but no one can do anything single-handedly to change things on a global scale. The people who get the credit organize and recruit others to do that.
I read it. My head is spinning. So as I recall, Geert said in last interview that these numbers will flip. I have seen his projections. It is based on age groups. Vaccinated vs unvaccinated. In short, the unvaccinated was the most in peril, but that trend is reversing and thus by January the vaccinated will be the most in peril. It is because the vaccinated have compromised immune systems from vaccines. Their immune system are slowly degrading. The boosters will make things much worse. The worst part of this is that kids were never in peril, and now we have compromised their immune systems and they have a long life ahead with potential immune disease, or worse death.
The unvaccinated is like the control group. Probably many have acquired immunity by now. Many that took the vaccine probably had virus, never knew it, or knew it and believed more is better meaning vaccines would add more protection.
I am on page 80 of Fauci book. It is so depressing I can only read a few pages at a time without sobbing. 😟
THank you for this Mr. Berenson. THis type of post/ article is why I pre ordered your book and subscribed. The short updates are great. But clearly you have are a deep capable thinker and you care about this subject. Im grateful to you for your dedication and hard work. Maybe all cause mortality is up because of other underlying problems that were ignored during the worst of the pandemic like cancer, heart issues etc. People delayed and postponed getting routine screenings and other care. So maybe this is all catching up with us now. That could be the explanation. Or is it some delayed effect of the vaccines? I hope you stay on this subject. If the excess deaths are from secondary effects of imposed covid policies well this discredits all the covid policies. If the deaths are from vax delayed effects well then lets start criminal proceedings against those responsible. Either way it doesnt look good for the gov health establishments. This could be another full length book for you... thank you
What stunned me in this article was the part about vaccinating hospice patients. What the hell? What would be the point of that even IF the shots worked? The person is close to death. Why subject them to any unnecessary medical treatments? The medical establishment is certifiably insane.
Death is a no go area for most people. Somehow quantity of life is more important than quality of life (not to appear insensitive but death is a part of life and IMHO honouring a patient’s wishes and guiding them/being with them in their final days is far more important than taking out the big syringe)
Death is no longer a foregone conclusion. Watch the growing research in aging to see our future. We're all going to live forever, if we're smart enough. No one alive today needs to die.
I like Aubrey de Grey and Sergey Young (+ Peter Diamandis, Ray Kurzweil are interesting - a few too many pills for my taste though). Now that Moderna has lots of cash maybe it’ll come up with an experimental treatment. Get your jab and live forever!
David Sinclair is making good progress. Whether the solutions require chemicals remains to be seen. They have working theories for significant extensions that are working well on mice. Testing those theories on longer lived subjects, like people, takes a lot longer.
Ah yes, I like David Sinclair too and interesting, I should explore the area more. I’m a bit of a purist who, perhaps foolishly, generally sticks to the basics (food, exercise, sleep, mental outlook etc) and believes the body has a greater intelligence (and strives for balance which is why I always worry about taking X or Y since I don’t understand the balancing mechanisms and consequences however low risk)
Sinclair tells a story of his dentist saying a procedure would be recommended if he was you get, but unnecessary at his age. He said he wants it anyway, he'll need it later. Success in life extension requires that we remain healthy. Think healthspan, not lifespan. With current tech, some chemicals are necessary.
The biggest problem now is aging is not officially a disease, so it's hard to get funding. That seems likely to change soon. Meanwhile, DeGray and others rely on private funds.
This is beyond the pale. Vaccinate a hospice patient? Let’s pretend that these things did work. You’d want to be the family that insists on a shot for the dying when someone with a whole life ahead of them couldn’t get one? That would be the new definition of insanity.
For those waiting for a safe attenuated live virus vaccine, it may be here. Omicron, developed in Southern Africa and brought to you by Delta.... and United, Lufthansa and so on.
Since we are talking about their constant BS. I just watched "This Week with George Stephanopolis" were they just said that in San Francisco more people died of fentenyl than covid last year. So what is the real pandemic? In case you don't know this is Nancy Pelosi's district and San Fransisco is like LA with all the lockdowns etc. I wonder if all those fentenyl addicted people on the streets are vaccinated and have to show proof of vaccination to OD on the streets?
I appreciate this expanded analysis and am also worried about this. When I try to bring this up with friends/family they always say "that's because people put off preventative screenings/procedures". I concede, that might be some of it. How do I rebutt that claim?
I don't engage in preventative screenings and procedures. I "decline" them, to use the official jargon. They've only ever been either useless or else positively harmful to my health and well-being. I don't have any precious blood to waste on useless blood tests, either.
I believe lives were actually saved from skipping the "unnecessary" ,sometime dangerously invasive screenings. Remember,the US medical system is the direct cause of 225,000 annual deaths ,and over 1,000,000 injuries each year. 3rd leading cause of death !! So yes, more people may have been saved by avoiding the system then died from avoiding the system.
The "fact check" complaint about the unvaccinated group skewing toward younger ages with expected lower death rates has an immediate problem.
The unvaccinated rate of deaths from all causes had been gradually declining since the end of January (off the chart to the left).
The UK did not start tracking the corresponding vaccinated death rate until March 19. But when they did start, the vaccinated death rate from all causes for ages 10-59 was lower than the unvaccinated death rate (see the beginning date on the chart).
Then suddenly the vaccinated death rate started going up dramatically at the beginning of April (with no change in the unvaccinated downward trend).
This rise in the vaccinated death rate cannot reasonably be explained by how many teenagers were being vaccinated. There must be some other reason.
A new steady-state has apparently emerged where the vaccinated are dying substantially faster than the unvaccinated. The question is why?
One help would be for these statistics to start being kept for 10-, 5- and 1-year age intervals, so we could tell what age group(s) were driving this phenomenon -- kept in more countries than the UK.
Thank God for Mr. Berenson and a few others courageous enough to tell the truth. This is no different than Galileo getting hauled up in front of the court for saying the earth revolves around the sun. Or maybe a better analogy is the witches of Salem, just mass hysteria run amok.
Anecdotally I see more and more older people ending up in the hospital and no it's not ones that hid inside for two years and skipped doctor appointments, it's active elderly that we're living their lives normally but still got the shot because of demanding family members and now they have bleeding ulcers and pancreatic disorders or kidney problems.
Alex has written a lot of great data analysis during the pandemic, but this is one of the best for sure. The dimwitted fact checkers who just blindly followed the scripts given to them by their masters were pretty pleased with themselves last week when they "indisputably" proved that the data didn't show what it appeared to show. In other words, believe me not your lying eyes. You could almost hear the sound of a mic drop. I had to pause for a moment when I saw that counter analysis, but even before reading what Alex wrote today, I could see that the reasons the so-called fact checkers were giving for the data appearing as it did were mathematically implausible.
What Alex is done today is identify another key issue that has been nagging at me throughout the pandemic. The expert opinions that are being bandied about by the low IQ fact checkers come from people who are probably actual experts in their extremely narrow specialties. One of the big problems we have right now is this move toward ultra reductionism in the biomedical sciences. It's a very interesting phenomenon after a strong push over the past couple of decades to move toward a more holistic, systems-based view of physiology.
It's a perfect example of reductionism, when the people doing the analysis are either unwilling or unable to understand two points of data in relation to each other and can only assess the data in isolation from all other data. As Alex astutely points out, both of the criticisms of the graphs that he presented are factually true in isolation but do not stand up to a more systemic analysis. (See how I did that with the use of the word systemic in the correct context?)
He doesn't appear to accept Ivermectin as a legit therapeutic. I think it is but Big Pharma is not going to allow (they buy influence) any legit testing because they can't make massive amounts of $$ from Ivermectin.
I'm surprised that he doesn't believe in it because there is enough anecdotal evidence to support that it is effective but what we need are real studies and I doubt the real studies will be permitted through the mainstream institutions
There is a lot anti push back so he probably doesn't want to mention it without good test data. At correct dose there is no risk. I have it and I use it.
That would be interesting indeed...there needs to be more pish on therapeutics and how they impact covid-19 response. Untold Truths 5: Therapeutics....????
There was that recent abstract where a doctor was monitoring his patients heart vitals, both before and after vaccination, and noticed the vaccine's effect on inflammatory markers.
I'm wondering how many clinical trials currently in process for other conditions have been impacted by the vaccine. Are they keep tracking of who gets vaccinated as a possible confounder? We may be able get some decent statistics out of closely monitored groups for certain trials, using the "pre-vaccine" cohort of the same people as the control group. But only, I guess, if it's creating issues in the studies and if those running the studies are brave enough to report the results.
Clinical trial work has not been impacted at all by vaccination, but it has been hugely impacted by the pandemic and associated lockdowns. There have been trials delayed, suspended, recruitment suspended, changes to procedures because patients were unable or unwilling to come for visits. Lockdown ideology is the biggest self-inflicted catastrophe in centuries.
Almost all trials record all concomitant medications, which would include any covid vaccines.
I am far from a vaccine fanatic, and in fact that is WHY I objected to the conclusion drawn based on the data in last week’s post. The situation is SERIOUS if indeed vaccinated people are dying at higher rates. This means allegations are likely to be completely discounted unless the data is unassailable. Providing data that is easy to invalidate and discredit means people are going to be even more likely to tune it out in future.
As acknowledged, the broad age range of 10-59 is enough to account for the entire disparity. The youngest are both least likely to die from all causes and least likely to be vaccinated--that is just too big a confounder to make meaningful inferences with unadjusted population-level data. No vaccine for a virus with an average 0.23% IFR is powerful enough to overcome a 50-year age advantage in terms of all-cause mortality. If the rates of vaccination were identical at all ages, it would tell us something. Otherwise, it simply can't.
The things I need to see to feel confident about a signal: vaxx vs unvaxx status (ensuring those with just one dose and those not past the 14-day window are not lumped into the unvaxxed category), stratified by age, compared not only to 2020 mortality but the 5-year rolling average (or longer). Also, we cannot randomly compare months, e.g. May versus September without also accounting for normal seasonal variation.
That's when people have a hard time explaining it away. We can't make it easy for them.
It was a mistake to post the original chart if it could be shot down so easily. Worse than doing nothing. And a 3000 word follow up that doesn’t justify the original post doesn’t help. Mistake
I agree with you that these data are inherently flawed, but I do think that an attempt was made to account for the differences in age in the vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations in the report of the underlying dataset. Quote from the linked report:
Because vaccinations were being offered according to priority groups set out by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), the characteristics of the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are changing over time. To account for differences in population size and age structure of the vaccination status groups over time, we calculated age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19).
Granted, it's not clear from Berenson's chart how the mortality rate was calculated. I think the y-axis was not labeled.
There are too many moving parts given age differences in each group, health differences in each group, greater push to vaccinate the elderly and sick early on, the delta variant being more contagious etc…. It’s close to impossible to control for all this.
All we really need is an explanation for the rise in all cause deaths of vaccinated people by age group.
If the explanation makes sense, there is no issue. If it is increased heart attacks, strokes etc..then there’s a problem.
Team reality here. I now treat the Covid nazis how I treat my children when I want to teach them a lesson. As they’re about to do something stupid (like touch a hot stove or get their 8th booster) I just stay silent and smile in my head watching the ensuing train wreck. The only difference is that my children are smarter than these folks and learn their lesson the first time. Maybe after booster number 20, heart attacks #2, or death, they’ll realize that the “vaccines” don’t work unless you own stock in Pfizer, Moderna, etc…
I understand and really appreciate your response. I agree and look at it slightly different. If we want our freedoms to do what we feel is right for us-- we need to let these people do what they feel is right for them--even if it means death, chronic disease etc.
Well done Alex. However, you should have had a pic of Kardashian's ass this time around to make more people at least glance at the article. Bait and switch!
I really had to laugh when I read the part about the elderly and flu vaccines. We had this discussion this morning with my dad. About 15 years ago he started taking the flu shot. Since then he says, he never had the flu nor a cold ! Even the doctor tried several times to tell him the shot does nothing for the cold, it is an entirely different illness. Then I asked him how often he remembered to have the flu before he got the shots. Never. He never had the flu. But he takes the dangerous shots.... I am 64 and hope to stay away from any shots. I also hope I will remember this sentence in 20 years from now if still alive.
I just read an article from Mercola about a big pharma insider saying they do not work anyway, just a source of revenue. This is such a crock of lies. Sometimes I feel like I am living in an alternate universe. Who do you trust anymore? My gut instincts methinks!
Who do you trust? The question of our time. Eric Weinstein proposed this as an alternative to leftist vs conservative in understanding our current differences. I find it works. One aspect is the trusters don’t like/aren’t interested/reject discussion, while the non-trusters have endless questions/skepticism. The latter is closer to the practice of science when I was in college 55 years ago. (Anti-)social media has two engines, the obvious power to obscure, compel, conceal, and cancel but another to reveal the incompetence and corruption in all our institutions. I am now as I was in Berkeley in 1964, a nearly complete Non Truster. Interesting times.
I'm with you Douglas. I too was on campus in the 60's & in 70 when Kent State happened. We questioned everything & especially the government. Later I taught science & math; later still was a technology executive. I understand both science and logic. What I cannot understand is how seemingly intelligent people can listen and obey without questioning either the science or the logic in all this. Just bewildering.
Bewildering is the word I’ve been using when asking friends if they share my perspective. The die-hard leftists think everything is fine.
Headline of the Day :
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/in-germany-you-must-be-fully-vaxxed-before-your-death-by-assisted-suicide/?taid=61a41fbe838dea0001e1d7d8&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
That is the most illogical twist I have seens. People cannot think. I asked my all for population limitation friends why if they felt so strongly about population control, they didnt just catch Covid? No they are all jabbed. Sigh.
Richard, I noticed the limb amputations when the cleaning lady who clean our call rooms said “I gotta get back and clean this one operating room… another limb amputation”…. She asked if I thought Covid is causing this. Then I realized the inflammatory issues ect…with the vaccine. It’s all making sense.
Just absolute laziness and herd instinct. A bad combination.
If you realized how dumb you sound, you'd keep your comments in your head, rather than let your ignorance shine so bright
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Safest way to survive. Trust the animal inside ourselves.
Exactly , we came from a line of 10000 generations where each ancestor made the right decision of whether that snake was food or poison and have now degenerated so far we need an authority to tell us otherwise .
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Wow, I Don;t know you but my heart aches for the way you feel. Yes, life can be really hard and sad. Especially at the end.
We must be related!
The teens and young adults of the 60's have flipped. Now they totally trust the government and question nothing. I don't get it. Even my grandparents (1900-1975) didn't trust the government and blamed everything on the government.
The dumbing down of America's students was intentional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M
We should be able to find trustworthy guides in our lives, and I think they exist. It seems in today’s culture we have a tendency to elevate those guides to hero status, listening to them in areas beyond their expertise, and then are dismayed when they fail. All our heroes are fallen. That doesn’t mean we can’t trust and learn from them. But we fail when we abandon our reason and trust blindly.
You fail when you forget whose responsible for the decision you make, regardless how you come to it... you are.
While I don’t trust any I certainly value and follow some for information and perspective. As you say, the expiry period for heroes is 15 Warhol units of time. We have data, we have information, we have knowledge, we have analytics, we need wisdom. Reagan put it well — trust, but verify.
I wish he would have followed his instincts before signing away Americans' rights to sue pharmaceutical companies.
You know Reagan was on cholesterol lowering pharmaceutical drug for years and years it has been linked to Alzheimer’s/ memory loss… he died of that disease…. Too bad he took away the right to sue BIG PHARMA…. They still prescribe those drugs today :(
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Gerrt VDB brought up a critical point recently- the establishment tends to be highly specialized whereas the complexities we’re facing require knowledge from several disciplines to chart effective policy. “Experts” also tend to be insulated from the real world consequences of their decision making. Of course there’s a darker side w the capture of public health agencies, scientific institutions & officials by corporate interests, but this at least explains the more well-meaning types just making really dumb calls.
They do but you have to search them out-- they are not the institutions or people that say they are there to help. Always questions and find groups that intuitively fit your view of the world 😊
There's an old saying, by whom I don't know, that basically says "If I discover that someone is coming to help me, I should run for my life." That probably especially so if "somebody" is the government.
Especially this government, which regards me as a white Supremacist deserving of death. I'm supposed to trust them?
Very true. An honest person that is trusted, needs to always admit when wrong. Yes, it will disappoint, but not being able to look oneself in the mirror is avoiding truth and for that person they cease growing spiritually.
"...we have a tendency to elevate those guides to hero status, listening to them in areas beyond their expertise..." I don't think this could be said any better, and the opposite is also true: a complete dismissal of those who are not our heroes and finding them unable to offer any truths at all. All we have to do is look at the last few presidents to find evidence of this.
Don't donate to Drs without Borders they are Bill Gates shills who vaxx everyone!!!
You hit the nail soundly....on the head😊. 1964 UCLA endless questions even for we business majors. And I too have become a non-truster. But, nevertheless, science has given us many more years of life. We no longer live in fear of Polio, Smallpox, Measles, et al. So, there is that!
But, then there's the obesity epidemic and all the havoc that has caused for our health. Look at pictures from the sixties and early seventies, hardly a fatty to be seen. Now it's one obese slob after another, all claiming they're beautiful and healthy no matter what. Of course they're delusional, but who's to blame? The FDA still insists that saturated fat should be avoided, salt severely limited, carbs are OK, and sugar's still good if you don't "eat too much" of it. The AHA is bought and paid for by manufacturers who want to keep selling junk food, the American Diabetes Association is still pushing carbs as part of a healthy diet for diabetics.
Modern nutrition research has debunked most of this crap, particularly the "saturated fat/cholesterol heart disease hypothesis," but you would never know it. It's as if Ancel Keys, the Fauchi of his day, is still telling the FDA what to push on an unsuspecting public.
People in power "learn" something, and then refuse to look at it ever again. It's too much trouble to keep up, so they just go with the flow. Just follow the policy, because even if they know the policy is wrong, they can't be faulted for following it. Hence, remdesivir, ventilators, and face masks.
I tell my adult kids all the time…I attended an elementary school of 900 kids…there was maybe one or two “fat kids” (yes we used those words) in the whole school…no diabetics…and not a one with a peanut allergy
…that was 1969-1978
I saw recent studies on this that align with what you pointed out, that it has been since the late 1970s or so that the general average weight of many Americans began to increase significantly due to all the garbage / synthetics etc that started to be used in food due in one main part, to the "Synthetic Chemicals Revolution." So true, there were hardly any fat kids, hardly any diabetics and not one peanut allergy.
Yes, autism was very rare but hey, vaccines are supposedly innocent of having any connection to that right? Well according to the really well done documentaries below by Del Bigtree, well, take some time to watch and inform yourself with truthful information that has been so intensely suppressed for a long time but finally over the last years becoming so much more well known;
VAXXED - FROM COVER-UP TO CATASTROPHE https://www.bitchute.com/video/RpLpHzBEd7Oy/
VAXXED II: THE PEOPLE'S TRUTH, DIRECTED BY BRIAN BURROWES (2019) https://www.bitchute.com/video/KzREp2RwrMn5/
Don't self censor because of those leftists who can't handle what they really are, fat. A dog is a dog, a cat a cat, a rat a rat and anything else is a lie kinda thing.
^Oh…and no one with autism either…
I'm 72. When I was in elementary and high school there simply were NO obese kids, I knew no one who was really overweight, and there were no really obese adults either. Some people had maybe 10-15 excess pounds on them, but you never saw the bloated morbid obesity that is commonplace today. I'm not sure when it all changed..perhaps in the late 1980s, not sure.
Thank you for that GK, reading your words was like a review of what i've learned over the years and you reminded me of things i forgot, so thanks.
1st post...What an awesome thread. Questioners, yeah! I just wanted to respond to the obesity epidemic. Ray Peat is an elder epidemiologist and has research links ad infinitum to PUFA's and their history in our diet beginning with the end of seed oils used in paints ~1945. Mega/corporate farming found a new niche for seed oils-Fattening animals, swine mostly. There is so much wrong-toxic in the dosages of seed oils in the human diet today. Carbs are one thing Saturated fat is what humans burn, cleanly. Poly fats cause dozens of diseases. Just aside. We are still getting through the fat scandal. See raypeat.com. gil@skipleyfarm
This is so spot on. Also, check out Dr. Michael Eades. He has taken a deep dive into just how PUFA's affect our fat cells vs saturated fat. If you're into some basic biochemistry, you'll love it.
Totally correct. And "Doctors" are still trying to frighten people away from low carb higher fat eating habits. They won't let go. As far as insulin resistance/obesity/type II, don't forget the devastating role that PUFA's have played in all of this. Since the 70's our food supply has been deluged with cheap, industrially processed polyunsaturated vegetable oils. Metabolically, this stuff opens our fat cells up for unlimited storage. Whereas saturated animal fat limits how fat we actually can get. And PUFAs are dangerously pro inflammatory. Inflammation is the underpinning of virtually all metabolic disease. Yet this is what modern medicine is still pushing. Thus forcing the majority of the population onto statins, ace inhibitors and metformin. It's crazy. The parallel to the approach to the Covid pandemic is terrifying.
No current medical science actually has done the opposite-- created more chronic conditions. The data that current" science uses re : polio, smallpox etc. does not accurately depict what changed leaving us living longer. Ask the Romans and Greeks, hygiene-- waste removal, water control and food storage and prep. It was never vaccines.
Exactly. In fact, the vaccine medical complex and its adherence need to answer for WHY chronic illnesses and diseases like juvenile diabetes, obesity, allergies, autism all shot up right around the time we began adding to the list of vaccines in infants. It's no longer acceptable to hear them squawk about 'settled science'. Them saying 'we don't know but it's not the vaccines' is utter bollocks. Are you not the damn experts? Then find them. I want answers. I feel like Michael Corleone when he entered Carlo's house and said, "You haver to answer for Santino, Carlo' and Carlo's subsequent meek, knowing he was busted, response about getting it all wrong. Explain yourselves and please no Offits and Plotnicks who are knee deep in conflicts of interest. They can offer their opinions but they're not to be the final arbiters. I want a Grey Skull Summit with all the Masters of the Universe weighing in. Scientists. Not scienticians.
RFK Jr. says that part of the 1986 law that gave vaccine makers immunity, also gave the CDC the responsibility to ensure vaccine safety. They’ve totally failed. They’re all just in the same club with the FDA and the pharma corps.
You can never go wrong by using a Godfather reference! ;-)
This. The only thing standing between humanity & almost complete eradication of respiratory pathogens is advanced HVAC & air purification technology. Or, we could go back to leaky buildings & shacks & come out of this on top like the “third world”. But nooo, the government & corporate entities of this world regard humans as disease vectors & must impose regular injections as a reminder of their low station.
I vote for going back to leaky buildings and shacks…and Nooooo air conditioning !!!
Amen.
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Oh polio.. like @Jules P pointed out, man, Polio is one of their best grand deceptions that vaccines were the miracle to stop it, when if you take the time to investigate competently and sceptically, you find right around the time those shots came out, there was a significant increase in proper hygiene and yet we are told it was the shots, not the increased hygiene that "stopped" Polio. I encourage you to check these out as well;
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/cdc-admits-98-million-americans-were-given-cancer-virus-via-the-polio-shot/95051818/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cdc+polio+98+million+cancer&t=brave&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
https://thetruthaboutvaccines.com/wp-content/uploads/TTAV-Polio-Vaccine-Graphic.jpg
And right form the horse's mouth;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypevotey62o
Also, these "savior vaccines" all appeared after the epidemics were over. The vax pushers always claim that the disease their vaccine is claimed to protect against is an incurable disease. Dr. Frederick Klenner had already demonstrated that polio could be cured with IV Ascorbate protocols.
The vaxxers claim that there is no treatment. They lie routinely.
I would generally agree for now minus what the links point out that gives a different perspective.
Polio is an inappropriate comparison because influenza and coronaviruses are zoonotic. They live in other animals, and so complete eradication is impossible. Also, their “vaccines” don’t provide sterilizing immunity.
Which makes the mass vaccination strategy - and all the collateral damage that comes with it from adverse events to mandates to passports - all the more ludicrous if not criminal. I fall in the camp where we need a Nuremberg 2.
I think you missed the point of my post, which @Chuck Burns did. As for covid coming from animals, i would strongly encourage you to watch this by Dr. David Martin, perhaps you might change your mind on thinking covid is zoonotic;
https://odysee.com/@Robert-Self:a0/Dr.-David-Martin-Follow-the-Patents,-Then-You-Will-Understand-Covid:0
I picked up 'The Poisoned Needle' (1957). Vaccines are borderline quackery. It's literally messing with a system so intricate and complex, man can't possibly improve on it. The vaccine train is Lyle Lanley's first success story before the Monorail.
Thank-you great links😊 put that in my patient file for resources
No problem, thank you for being thankful.
Yes polio spreads via the fecal-oral route, hygiene is key and it makes you wonder how so many people caught it!
No vaccine in history has ever worked.
They simply appear to have done so because doctors typically refuse to diagnose/test for the condition if the patient is vaccinated (a phenomenon that is actually exacerbated by lab testing (because we *require* lab confirmation today but we didn't before their vaccines came out)).
The diseases have therefore been renamed not reduced.
To illustrate, paralysis rates have increased since the polio vaccine. Polio is now called GBS, MS, etc.
Congenital defect rates have increased since the rubella vaccine. Measles and rubella are now called roseola, 5th disease, hand foot and mouth.
Liver cancer rates have increased since the hepatitis b vaccine. Hep B is called Hep C, D.
Sterility rates have increased since the mumps vaccine. Mumps = parotitis.
Invasive disease rates have increased since the various meningitis vaccines.
I sincerely want to thank you as well for that, this is insightful, there are things you stated that i know about but then other things i didn't know yet, so thank you, much appreciated.
Oh @Opiner, you just haven't gone down the rabbit hole far enough yet. Especially with polio. Should you ever wish to dive deeper... http://harvoa.org/polio/overview.htm?fbclid=IwAR1XwmXQ4pIdHKj6bMrMjgYEU-vJxQ_lOlMhhZVp968SuCaJwFfx8LVhgfU
Thanks🥰 great post
Hold that thought on smallpox. There’s a new one planned and ready. Are we?
Dissolving Illusions, by Dr. Suzanne Humphries, will tell you exactly what Carol Jones says - no vaccine is to be thanked for that
They have seriously f****d up this time. But will they course correct?
I have a vague memory of this Smallpox tale. I grew up with "scientists", Physicists to be more precise. They are all cut from the same cloth....but, not all are bereft of morality. One guy like Fauci can spoil the whole pot of stew! Now, we don't believe a thing they say!
I am a school social worker,I watched as my age group came out of the 60's. Our generation resented our parents and when we became parents were terrified of being blamed as we blamed our parents for our misdeeds and wild ways in the 60's. We were determined to do everything right so we read the books by so called experts, ran to the doctors and mental health professionals for advice basically turning our children over to them. We then created a generation who can't think for themselves and want a playbook for life. So how can anyone be surprised that they believe "science" as gospel. They do not think for themselves for fear of making mistakes and not being perfect. If they follow others and it goes wrong, well it was the experts fault not their fault.
In light of this so called cancel culture where all mistakes are punished not learned from, you can understand their fear but it makes for a pretty depressing life.
Fauci: The Bernie Madoff of Science and the HIV Ponzi Scheme that Concealed the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic Kindle Edition $1.99 This little book is a chapter from The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic Cover-up Volume Two.
In this explosive chapter, the first publisher to devote his newspaper to the coverage of AIDS and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome details the role of Anthony Fauci in the cover-up of the truth about the relationship of the two epidemics.
I have Fibromyalgia, Fatigue is part of it, Pain in every fiber of your body. Misdiagnosed Idiopathic Colitis, which I kept insisting was Gastropresis, Gastro refused to run the Gastric Delay test, Internist did, Positive. None of the other GI test were. And Reglan is Black Boxed for Neurological disease. I learned the hard way stay away from those meds. This was a Fiber optics pioneer in the Coloscopy field, not your average Gastro. I learned NOT TO TRUST.
How does a booming economy, low gas prices, no food shortages, fewer OD's go from that, to 100,000 OD deaths, Hyper Inflation, high gas prices, food shortages in just 10 months? We got the Wrong president, 42 yrs of a do nothing senator, who can't string a coherent sentence together, as far back as the Clarence Thomas hearings. Did mean tweets hurt your feelings? I'll take that over being told I have NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND HAVE TO PAY HIGHER TAXES FOR ILLEGALS, UNVETTED REFUGEES bringing in Highly contagious diseases, crime, and illicit drugs laced with Synthetic Chinese Fenatayl. And IRRESPONSIBLE idiots who think their MMJ should look like a Toddler's GUMMY BEARS. IS ANY ONE TRACKING THAT? FDA APPROVED. WHO PAID THEM OFF? BROWNIES WERE HOMEMADE. Even our pets are Not safe from ingesting MMJ Irresponsible people leave lying around. You want to use it, be responsible about doing so.
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Yes, a bright light is shining in many shady places.
Always Skeptical-Non Truster here too!
once bitten twice shy !
I love Weinsteins proposal-- I totally agree-- differences based on values-- ie question authority or just bow to it. Love your post. I too am in your camp. 62yrs. old.
Eric Weinstein works for Peter Thiel. Enough said.
If you put it in numbers it sounds even more scary !
If they all start acting like robots (although lots of them already are) and we are not, we know that it is the wiring !
There is no SARS-Cov2 proven to exist under a properly isolated and purified stare of being. You’re perpetuating a lie.
No. See, this is the problem. I’m not believing or claiming anything in particular, you’re claiming a coronavirus exists. OK, then you must have the evidence of a properly isolated and purified object, right?
If you don’t, why are you claiming they exist or why are you believing they exist?
Well Mercola is quite trustworthy, Big-Pharma? I think you know that answer. Big-Pharma is not interested in the cure, but treating the symptoms, that's where the billions are made, making blood money off of suffering, i've learned about this for many years. Who do i trust anymore? God/Jesus, the only one who is ultimately faithful and true, and anyone who does or communicates things contrary to what God/Jesus, you can't trust them on that thing or trust them at all.
Scientists and doctors that value truth are worth their weight in gold in this battle - people like Dr. McCullough. But the consensus behind The Science™ has completely abandoned truth, because reality is offensive to their ideals. The same scientists in favor of giving little children hormone therapy are also pushing everyone to inject their kids with covid shots. The further we get from truth, the more painful the consequences.
Well stated Nomad, i agree due to having knowledge of the same things but you expressed it well, hard truth. Note: that little "Trademark" is quite fitting (you used ASCII code for that right?).
The trademark symbol can be done with a keyboard shortcut if you want to search it.
This weekend Fauci made a reminder declaration that criticism aimed at him is an attack on science. The reality is that criticism of him is an attack on The Science™ and completely warranted.
That this guy is in charge of anything, God help us all.
I know it can be done by ASCII hence why i asked, i just don't recall the ASCII code. Thanks anyway.
"This weekend Fauci made a reminder declaration that criticism aimed at him is an attack on science. The reality is that criticism of him is an attack on The Science™ and completely warranted."
You want to know something that is not coincidence since nothing is coincidence in God's/Jesus' nature of reality? I am responding some moments i just read your reply above in my email, seconds right before i read your reply as i was listening to Mike Adams talk about current events, Mike was talking about how Fauci so sickly vainly claimed to be "science".. as i was listening to that and read your reply within the last 15 mins, i was like "Wow Lord, again, nothing is coincidence." What a no coincidence at all that as i was listening, Mike Adams is saying what you did in a different way right as i started to read your reply. Serendipity. Yes God help us all, with how much his masters have put him in control of.
Just wanted to make a correction;, it was supposed to state;
"...I am responding some moments AFTER i just read your reply above in my email..." not "...I am responding some moments i just read your reply above in my email.."..
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All you have to do is look at the roots and beginnings of big Pharma-- yup Germany post WWII. See parallels today?
Indeed, many parallels, and what sickens me to my spirit and stomach, is how many wilfully ignore it and are under grand Stockholm syndrome. I would state it goes even farther back, since in Greek the word "Pharmakea" means 'sorcery' as its main meaning, in other words, witchcraft potions, and that's what BigPharma is, mass witchcraft, using potions to put people under a spell, for demonic take over aka diabolisation of society and that is so evident more than ever with them who have the spiritual yearning desire to live in truth and thus see it. We are controlled by high priest occultists who are more successful than ever in putting much of the world under a deeply profound grand global spell / incantation / trance / hypnosis aka.. diabolised zombies.
Mercola was the one that made me realize our labs are so corrupt. Those that believe cancer is metabolic are quickly kicked from any lab space. I worked for a few pharmaceuticals as did my husband. They were not looking for any cures. They are not in the business to do so. They want people to remain or get even sicker to keep their profits coming. It is all about margins and expanding the cancer industry.
:) Amen.
Has always been skewed to the profit motive anyone believing otherwise is in flat out denial or simply to young yet to fully grasp the scope of this reality. This is decades and decades and decades of ongoing deception and only more intentional with time passing. Big pharma knows that slick marketing and coercing medical facilities-medical personnel to push the concoctions will translate into sales and profits. I blame both the fraudulent intentional intent of big pharma and those people or some call sheeple to allow themselves to continue the trusting as they do what the see and feel in media ads and what bought and paid for healthcare providers are telling them. Not all medical personnel, but a very large % are in fact bought and paid for by big pharma
If you haven’t already done so, I encourage you all to watch the limited series on Hulu entitled “Dopesick”, and then ask yourself if the pharmaceutical companies have your health in mind. Aside from their sickening sales tactics and manufactured, industry-funded “studies”, they bolster their obscene profits by routinely hiring former high ranking FDA employees, giving them top jobs in pharma companies upon leaving the FDA - for 3-5x’s the salary. Conflict of interest? Ya think? And yet it’s all perfectly legal. It’s happening today. Absolutely sickening.
While NETFLIX has increasing crap (guess they have to get MSM money to pay the Obamas) Hulu and DisneyPlus seem to have some good stuff. LOVED Dopsick
*Dopesick
Well stated Meray!
You as well, well stated and reasoned, and learned, i know this these things also after many years of indagating. I encourage you to check out these documentaries on exactly what you pointed out, they are bombs exposing the utter deception, subterfuge, wickedly abominable evil practices they engage in that you pointed out, even the titles of the documentaries in the link i'm sharing here, focus right in on these mind-boggling mass murderous evil, like the title of one documentary called "Making a Killing";
https://www.cchr.org/documentaries/
So agree. We are now in Late Capitalism, where industry/robber barons have captured the government, media, politicians, some legal, some police, yadda, yadda. It’s worse than just Big Pharma. The danger: it can and will destroy democracy, if it hasn’t already. Capitalism can work IF it is properly fettered to prevent what we see now. And, yes, this “system of cultural power” has been decades in the making—inch by inch.
I would hesitate to even use the word capitalism… monopolistic, kleptocratic corporatism, cronyism, fascism? Capitalism breaks when people stop voting with their money. Actually, our constitutional money (gold and then silver) was confiscated in 1933, 1964. People have become completely apathetic, outsourcing personal oversight and regulatory powers (consumer watchdogs, boycott movements, etc) to government bureaucrats that can easily be bought.
So was the premise of the second James Bond film "Goldfinger" outdated even in 1964?
Well keenly expressed. I know more than not of what you stated but you provided a little more insight, thanks.
We have been in Late Capitalism (albeit helps together by tape and string and LOTS of continual money printing) since 1964
Why 1964, because silver was removed from coinage to enable more monetary printing?
I would generally agree on the level you are presenting that as, but a democracy is not what you want since it's 2 wolves and a sheep fighting over what is for dinner.
Still laughing. Thanks. The wolves need to be muzzled, of course, and the sheep hit over the head probably. But, what alternative is better? We have a long history of the wolves crashing the system, and it isn’t the sheep who save things. That’s for sure.
"Still laughing."
:) Glad you liked a very fitting figurative explanation.
Yes the wolves need to be muzzled and the sheep hit over the head, hahaha. I'm in Canada, from what i know, America was better as a republic before the Americans got conned into a democracy. Your last sentence has truth, but like the Lord taught in the Scriptures;
2 Chronicles 7:14
"If my people (His true believers), which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
That's how things could be saved by i'm saddened by how your nation and my nation and the West, has been and continues to increase in being turned deliberately into such moral corrosion, corruption, decay, degeneration, lawlessness, perversion and rot by the powers that be, and so many that allowed it, in my perspective based on the Scriptures, now is the time to get on the Ark (symbolic for getting right with the authentic austere Jesus the Christ of the Scriptures) because the a flood is coming and few shall be saved. Consider this;
"More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our Revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous Revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”"- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn [excerpt from 1983 Templeton Address]
“Ownership of the media is always in the hands of the perpetrators.” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Here's something else to take note of which i STRONGLY urge those who read this message, to consider quite strongly, the below excerpt (link for the excerpt is provided further below);
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"How the communist plan to overthrow America from within is being prosecuted:
In his best-selling book “The Naked Communist,” former FBI Special Agent W. Cleon Skousen revealed the 45 communist goals to overthrow America, not by a foreign invasion, but via stealth, infiltration and deception carried out by American citizens who have quietly moved to the side of the hammer and sickle. As you read the following partial list of those goals, ask yourself which political party most closely aligns itself with these profoundly un-American objectives.
.....In one of his most revealing quotes, Lenin said, “The goal of socialism is communism.” The idea that creeping socialism should precede outright communism is an acknowledgment that totalitarian rule is so frightening to people in free nations that it must be quietly slipped into those societies in bits and pieces. It is through that incremental process that socialism serves as an under-the-radar, transitional gateway to the unrelenting oppression of full-blown communism.
Gramsci’s stratagem is reflected in one of his most pertinent quotes: “Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media.”
Gramsci theorized that what holds a capitalist society together are the pillars of its culture, the structures and institutions of family, religion, education, politics, law, the arts, and the media, as they provide the social cohesion necessary to a functioning society. Undermine the principles that these cultural institutions embody, and a capitalist society can be overthrown from within without firing a shot."... - canadafreepress.com/article/the-communist-plan-to-overthrow-america-from-within
Bonus: thecomingtribulation.wordpress.com/2020/01/26/why-america-will-fall-to-socialism/
Here's something else;
Norman Mattoon Thomas (November 20, 1884 – December 19, 1968) was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America. Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech: “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” He went on to say: “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”
As clearly outlined -- so clearly in RFKs book on Fauci-- there isn't a WORLD leading University/College that doesn't depend on Fauci (ie US govt taxpayers) largesse in research--either medical or bio-weapon medical (thanks MIC)
Well stated and reasoned, and learned, and you stated it better than i could at this time.
Amen to that B12!
I did a quick google and just about half of MDs are NOT in private practice in the USA. At first that sounds promising, but I suspect that more of the MDs even those with their own offices, still are beholden to some degree to The System. Hospital admitting or practicing privileges. Risk of censure or license suspension by Board of Health or other license-granting (and revoking) authority. Reportedly, even writing the "wrong" prescriptions can get them in trouble in some States and countries.
Right. I’m in Maine and pretty much everything here is “Maine Health.” Very, very few docs in private practice. Big inroads in Charleston, SC, area too, especially in pediatric and family practice. Docs are also paid for using industry products—from surgical stuff to vaccines. It’s just…corrupt. In the end, as you say, docs are no longer reliable narrators because if they don’t tow the line, they are punished, as you note.
Remember the stories about snake oil salesmen? Big pharma is the modern version of that.
Back in the good old days we trusted simple observations. That went not just for medicine but life in general. We didn't rely on and obsess about 'peer reviewed'. We trusted our instincts and exercised critical thinking skills. It's plain apparent the vaccines are nothing but a bilk of junk. They remind me of products you impulsively buy advertised on TV. They work for a time and then.....Poo-tee-wwet? No different with the vaccines. They never had a chance and now we're entering the 'Chase that variant' phase with the vaccines. The hubris and stupidity of man thinking they can outwit a virus that's 2.5 billion years old, Mother Nature AND God combined! Salk thought he vaccines could improve immunity and we see the same thing today whenever quacks (you heard me) say even if you had Covid take the shot because "extra primo crispy protection!" Worse, the head of some paediatrician association Lee Beers said this applies to children as well! Let's take a kid whose immunity bashes Covid, recovers and give them a jab. Yeh, sounds like a plan. Paediatricians are vaccine cultists.
“Extra Primo Crispy Protection”!! My mother 82 had Covid in Feb 2021 and recovered in 10 days. She is super-healthy. She walks 5 miles, 3 days a week, works out in the gym 2 days and plays water volleyball too. She has had intestinal issues in the last few years. I told/begged her not to get the vaccine. She got the first shot anyway without telling any of us. Moderna. Short version. Hospitalized for 4 weeks with unknown illness. Finally did exploratory surgery because nothing else worked. A hernia wrapped around her lower intestine was removed. She is back to normal now. I told her if she got the 2nd shot or the booster I would personally do some damage (joking). Maybe a coincidence but I don’t think so.
About 15 years ago my doc, at the time, said he had become nothing but a pill pusher. I got another doc, a very intelligent fellow, who has become nothing but a protocol enabler.
It appears no matter the person or group their devotion for vaccines is because they want their share of the cash to keep rolling in. This is all about money.
Poo-tee-weet. Nothing like ruining an iconic reference.
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You can’t trust any of the 3 letter agencies, or big pharma, of course.
I rely on large doses of vitamins/minerals. Pre-Biotics, and Probiotics. They may not work as fast, but they don't kill. The ones I find that are failures are Multi's, Knee pain, for OA pain Turmeric. Nor does Cinnamon lower BS. If it's being Marketed it's being HYPED. It takes research to find the right combo that Your body needs. Black Cohosh had the same side effects as hormones did.
Yep, or half a yep. 10,000 IU D3, 1000 C, zinc, and quercetin. That and steep hikes, more outside, and fewer groups.
The only problem with that is, your gut instincts can't perform specialized services for you or watch your 6 in a firefight. We need to be able to trust others, which is why this Covid nonsense has to stop.
I will stick with my gut, ty anyway...
Yes, it would be good if we could. I'll make a "calculated" decision but not based on trust. I hope that day comes but it does seem we're headed the other way. And you're right, Covid policy was the final nail and they're too deep to stop digging.
Do you think RFK Jr.’s new book will shed any light on this unholy alliance? God Bless Robert Califf at FDA!
The book sure gives some insights into Fauci’s character…or lack there of
without a doubt, he needs to be exposed and humiliated for all his vile sins against nature, animals and humanity.
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exactly....all for almighty profit, this whole thing sickens me. they are not elites, they are the delites as I call them. they just have more money but their days are coming, night will be closing fast upon them.
What is a virus and who has proven it exists by properly isolating and purifying the object? Please provide a scientific document that outlines the process used.
Well I certainly agree that mandating a medical product is very wrong. My point is important; no virus has been proven to exist, and these jabs are for no virus. Same with Polio, Influenza, and all others that are based on “viruses”
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/11/28/covid-prosecution-strategy.aspx
Please subscribe, it is a wealth of information. Clean, pure and mostly medical. May be too high a level education wise for some but likely those can still gleam some information. Can’t recall how much, if anything, it costs but if your life is priceless, it is worth it. Download the PDFs right away, as they only last less then 48 hrs or so. He gets hacked into regularly by those who do not want the truth reported and who constantly censor by illegal means. The hackers include the Government agencies. It is costly and time consuming to fend off these attackers. Thank you for your service Dr. Mercola and all those ( you know who you are ) that are risking life, limb, work and savings to help others and get the truth out. Who would have thought …?
Made me righteously indignant when i found out from Mercola he had to do this... man...that is undeniable evidence of how damaging the truth he puts out is, that he has come to that. The West is going ...authoritarian all by design as part of that global governance agenda the powers that be have been working on for so long.
"This 'waning immunity' story is all well and good--it hurts the vaccine pushers"
On the other hand, it gives them a good excuse to push a never-ending stream of profitable boosters.
Exactly!!!!!
Just found it sunhawk. you have to go down to about the middle of the article under the heading Massaging Covid 19 Messages and it is a few paragraphs down!
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/11/27/sharyl-attkisson-media-bias.aspx?ui=e625125c27aff83fb34818312d0b18ebb7d9343b124c78031e56507d4bb269b9&sd=20200512&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art3HL&cid=20211127&mid=DM1052683&rid=1334323598
it already disappeared, he deletes them after 2 days now bc of all the threats he receives.
Your last paragraph right on target.
As a physician, I inherently steer away from vaccines if there are therapeutics that can adequately treat specific disease.
My reasoning is simple: messing with the immune system for a disease we may never get is overkill. Why vaccinate if taking an antibiotic or antiviral is reliably effective?
A truly wise medical provider you are. It's that exact way of thinking we are as 'we the people" craving. Stay true to your logical and obviously compassionate nature as a trusted source of medical information!
Glad you are in that minority, i'm just surprised you would suggest anti-biotics when they damage the body quite a bunch, a fact i would think you know. "Bios" in Greek means "life" and so anti-biotics actually means anti-life since it kills both good and bad bacteria etc. For me, i know anti-biotics are the only thing i will use if i have no other choice because natural medicine is not helping me, even when i have to use anti-biotic, i do my best to counter it's damaging effects with natural medicine.
"Even when I have to use anti-biotic, I do my best to counter its damaging effects with natural medicine". Amen.
In veterinary medicine, when an anti-biotic is prescribed for a bacterial infection, a pro-biotic supplement is often prescribed at the same time to prevent disruption of the gut micro-biome that would otherwise cause diarrhea.
:-) Amen.
You know something? What you stated in the second paragraph is so key, because this is what i learned from a Naturopath/Health Food store owner, and what you stated is almost exactly what you stated. Amen! I know you are telling truth not just because of what you told me is the same thing i learned from natural health physicians etc but also because there is indeed more evidence than ever that what you stated is an effective protocol and it makes total sense, thanks again JP Sand.
Agreed. Vaccines are not treatments for any disease. Treatment should be the goal of any physician in dealing with a sick patient.
Ditto me as well
Wow we need more doctors to think like you!!
Every year they want to give you a shot and I say nope never had flu never got shot I’m 67!
At age71 and no flu shots since the mid 1970's, if ever...I really don't recall before that time. No flu in at least 30 years, but a few times before that I had some flu and once was somewhat severe but not life threatening. So I ask myself why on earth do I need any flu shot? This is simply NOTHING that big pharma could ever do to make me healthier. And where is the long term data (studies) that proves yearly flu shots are safe and effective? MIA, I believe.
When my mother got dementia I started reading up on that. Scientists are still investigating whether the heavy metals, aluminum, mercury, in the shots can cause dementia, Alzheimers, etc. I take the sure for the unsure and stay with my Echinacea and Cryptolepis and the kind! Even if FDA unproven LOL
Hear hear!
Should I stop taking my Trace Heavy Metals Plus Aluminum supplement, then?
Most people have never had the Flu, but the propaganda makes it sound inevitable unless you get the flu shot. With Covid, most people will never get it, or even know they had it. But hey,get the jab because it's inevitable ! Pharma actually went to the CDC and ask them to make the Flu sound scarier to sell more shots. The CDC's Flu burden analysis is Total BS. The scare wasn't enough , so they invented covid.
Back in 1974 I had my one and only bout of flu....the Hong Kong flu. Since then I have never been so ill. It was 10 days out of work; horrific fevers and hallucinations; symptoms got worse as the day went on. My 60 yo mother moved in to take care of me and my young son. After that I never was seriously ill again (I thank God). I also did not take any flu shots after that either. 2 weeks later my 8 yo son got it and he was also extremely ill, but bounced back quicker. My Mom didn't even get a sniffles! My good old GP told me then that I would have long-lasting immunity that I could trust as would my son. That's how B and T cells work, always have (or we humans would be long gone) and always will AS LONG AS YOU DON'T INJECT mRNA GENE THERAPY PRODUCTS into your body which changes your body's innate immune response.
What a testimony, truth! Amen! Glad to read things like this. That's the thing with natural immunity, Big-Pharma despises it because well... it's free. Yes the B and T cells are a wonder of His creation as all things are. So don't even dare inject GMO/Franken shots / synthetic mRNA gene altering DNA and immune destroying injections since allowing oneself to be a lab rat of seriously ultra reckless diabolical gene hackers who megalomaniacally are messing around with what God created (DNA) AS IF they "KNOW" what they are doing (due to their insatiable demonic delusional desire to be a 'god') with a biological system that is far beyond man's ability to comprehend because of how 4+ dimensional complex DNA is, is utterly recklessly, dangerously, fatally foolish and therefore we deserve what we get if we wilfully ignore the warnings.
God is eternally the greatest, and the Devil is eternally the biggest loser.
The whole influencing of the innate immune system within our god given bodies is quite concerning for certain! IF these mongers behind the scene know this is in fact an outcome of the experimental medicine injections it had better be show the LIGHT of day!
Amen and it will sooner or later.
I had the Hong Kong flu in 1973…. Was bad the only time I ever had a flu very sick as well 2 weeks… I was 17.. I thought I was dying.. haha
Twister - good thought. We are being told everyone will get it eventually.
That's not necessarily true, as you pointed out - many of us have never or rarely had symptomatic flu. 🤔
Look guys, I share much of the skepticism here about the plain evil about the pandemic. I can even accept that the flu shots are not highly effective. But when you start slinging around claims like most people have never had a case of flu, your ignorance is showing. Colds and flu are among the world's most common diseases. If you've never had a fever, chills, aches, cough, stuffy or runny nose, etc, EVER in your life you are either a very exceptional person or a liar.
Susanna wrote "many", not "most". Many can be far fewer than most, y'know.
Is it all horse shit or whore shit ?!!!!!!😂
corrupt whore shit
Totally ingrained propaganda far too many fell and continue to fall for.
Indeed, year after year and so on.. all by ever refining design, with "A Brave New World" mixed with certain parts of "Nineteen Eighty-Four" and "THX1138" and more to do their best to ensure the spirit/mind control is so entrenched, so deep, that it's permanent, but only God/Jesus can break it if the one under truly seeks liberation from such intense diabolist war.
Agree
I saw an analysis based on UK NHS data that basically proved zero effectiveness of flu shots. They compared rates of flu before and after age 65 (apparently UK policy encourages giving out flu shots starting age 65) and found no difference. Those is a great test because it's precisely the same population.
I’m over 65 and I wash my hands a lot …
I have told this story before but I love it enough to tell it again. A couple years ago (pre-Covid) I was standing at the pharmacy counter while an elderly man was in front of me. He gave his birth date to the pharmacist to pick up his RX and his birth year was 1928. The pharmacist asked him if he wanted a flu shot. He said no, he turned to me and he said that he never gets a flu shot- and he has never had the flu. I said that I was the same, never gotten a flu shot and never had the flu. Then I noticed that he had a big case of Gatorade that he was buying along with his RX. I said "is that what you drink to stay so healthy?" and he replied "oh, no, this is for my wife. I only drink beer!"
Nice story! Also my aunt is 86.. she had Covid in May 2021.. and double pneumonia… at same time… she was sick 3 weeks but recovered Completely she still lives independently and works 2 days a week
So let’s examine other aspects of her lifestyle, besides still living independently, and working 2 days a week, and copy those…
Do you have any of her tips to share?
Not really no smoking or drinking but…
Her parents lived until In nineties.. she has a zest for life and postive attitude always.. never exercised thin and on no medications
Me too! Retired at 62 5 yrs ago living a sweet life
My father was from Italy. Rarely saw him drink water. Just wine. And smoked like a chimney. Never had the flu or a cold. And he swam like a champ. Go figure.
Love these good health stories!
Love it ! 🍺
Didn’t Ben Franklin say something like…”Beer is the proof that God wants us to be happy”?
Better than drugs.
Living a happy life is far better than drugs!
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As usual, the best remedies are found outside of the modern medical mafia mainly because they can't make a buck off them. Thanks.
I do salt water rinse daily and anytime I go out in public come back home…. I don’t get sick I take zinc and vitamin D and C I haven’t worn a mask yet!
Congratulations for your grandmother. That’s terrific
Is that related to tobacco?? Or Merri wanna??? Never heard of it but it must of helped her live long!!👍
That is incredible. Not sure what Pennyroyal is, but whatever she's doing it might be a story worthy of a book.
I never really researched flu shots until now. Will never get one again.
The wife of one of my husband's clients became permanently paralyzed from the waist down a few days after getting a flu shot. We have not and never will get a flu shot or a 'whack-a-mole' m0r0nic c0vid cl0t shot.
I've had one flu shot in my life, 25 years or so ago. I was so sick for about 5 months with sinus problems. Never had a flu shot again and never will. I've had the clot shots from Pfizer stupidly, 12 days in cardiac care in the hospital. I had shot 2 5 months ago but no more.
36% more likely to get COVID IF YOU TAKE THE FLU SHOT. THEY ARE THE SAME VIRUS, JUST DIFFERENT STRAINS. AS IS COMMON COLD. JUST SAY NO THANKS. https://www.disabledveterans.org/2020/03/11/flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-risk/
Reminds me of people who think masks protected them from the flu in 2020. The amount of face palming I've done these past 21 months has left a permanent red mark on my forehead.
You are not the only one. I have read testimonies from both people and their physicians, that the masks caused rash, eczema etc. I noticed when I wore one for an hour, my allergy got worse. I only wore it at the couple of stores that gave them out like Walmart. Hate them.
I hate face masks with a burning passion! I only wear one when it's absolutely demanded (in a store, for example) but only for very short periods of time (i.e. a few minutes.)
They make my rosacea worse, they irritate my sinuses, so that I have a runny nose (while wearing a mask!) which I deal with by pulling the f***ing mask down so I can blow my nose into a tissue (to the absolutely horror of everyone around me, of course,) and they make me feel claustrophobic, short-of-breath, vision-impaired, off-balance, dizzy, discombobulated, or some awful combination of all the above.
Periodically cashiers working just rip them off their faces. I feel so much empathy for their misery. I have seen them rip them off when taking a break and the masks get tossed on table, drop on floor, get wadded up and stuffed into pockets or get moved below their chin as they walk into bathroom. We know those masks are filthy by the time they go home. Most are wearing masks that need washing and we know that Is not happening with any regularity.
Double Bubble bubble gum comics were onto this phenomenon 50 or 60 years ago. I remember one little comic strip, that wrapped around the bubble gum, where a kid was tearing sheets of paper into small pieces and scattering them on the ground. His friend asked him why do he was doing that, and he said, "To keep elephants away." His friend said, "There are no elephants around here." And the first kids said, "See, it's working."
Is vaccine testing any saner? When testing a vaccine, it is unethical to "challenge" a subject with the actual pathogen. I can understand that; it might make him ill or even kill him. How, then, can they possibly test the efficacy of a vaccine? I'll admit I'm not sure, but it seems to me they have little option but the watch the test group for say, six months, and see how many people catch a disease, and then compare results with the control group. This seems a rather imprecise way. Now, we can agree that the Covid-19 virus was circulating, so perhaps that makes the test have some validity. But to me, it seems only a bit sounder than if they were testing a vaccine against Ebola -- which to my knowledge, doesn't exist at all in the USA. If no one catches Ebola, can they then conclude that the vaccine provides perfect protection?
Yes, I worked in a hospital for 30 years. I never got the flu shot because they never claimed to give 100% prevention. One year was only 25% effective. Then the hospital started mandating the flu shot the last year I worked there. I always feel that vaccines destroy peoples' immunity and never got any but polio, Rubella, and smallpox when I entered kindergarten. My health is fantastic. I feel if I had jumped to receive every vaccine offered, I'd be fighting all kinds of diseases because the shots destroyed immunity. There are also studies showing that vaccines are the reason so many people are getting cancer. I believe it.
What year did they start mandating flu shots? Wow so mandating crappy vaxxes started before Covid!
I took early retirement in early 2015, so the shot was 2014. That was the first year it was made mandatory to keep my job. Since I couldn't afford to quit just yet, I went ahead and got it against my will, but I got out of there a few months later. If it were the Covid jab, I would have quit on the spot and scrambled to do something else. Back then, jobs were hard to come by. Now I see help wanted signs everywhere!
Good comment from someone on the front lines. I agree.
Pretty amazing how so many especially those 70 plus put far too much trust in big pharma and the agencies they own like the CDC etc.
It's sad. Even people who previously seemed skeptical of the government and medical industry, many seem to completely buy the vaccine story. My guess is that they are afraid because they are in the high risk category; but I also don't think they have grasped the total propaganda capture of MSM and even the academic community and publishers.
That is my dad. He has slammed the federal government for as long as I’ve been alive. Now he’s out getting a booster shot on the first day it’s available.
I wonder if it's just because they know that to an ever greater extent they are reliant on society to care for them, provide the pension, health care, etc. They feel they have no choice but to trust them and hope.
Or at the age when they are hyper aware of their mortality?
that 's my folks. they are so afraid to be cast out, although they never go out!
It’s the “Marcus Welty Syndrome.
Welby
Mine too :(
Trapped within a psychosis of sorts?
Exactly forkinsocket😞
I think that all of this devotion to allopaths and pharma are rooted in the fear of death. I expect to die. I don't fear death, so I have little use for MDs, except to stop the bleeding from injuries and the like.
Most older people remember the times when the mayor, the lawyer and the doctor were the most regarded people in the village. My parents (80+) are like that.
My wife gets the flu shot annually; I refuse to get any flu jab regardless of peer pressure. Result: she has had the flu twice, I have had it once. I treated mine with more sleep, increased intake of vitamin C, and other natural supplements. I overcame the illness rapidly whereas she takes much longer to recover. Me - 2-3 days while she takes some 7-10 days. This spans the 20+ years we have been married.
I'm 73, NEVER HAD THE FLU, except the time I was CORERCED into that horrid Bird Flu 1, sick 2 weeks, ER Trip for IV and Phenergan shot. Add Robert Yoho's BUTCHERED to your reading list to make that 20 more years medically, most of my health issues can be traced back to modern medicine, accidents are another story that has its Roots in Big Auto, Trucking, Road Builders and Government, I've not really gotten into yet. Many children's lives could have been saved from Hot cars, our Malibu has a warning when you put anything in the back seat. It is just a simple chip that could have been added to any car years ago. KENNEDY: Pentagon Study Shows Flu Shot Raises Risk Of Coronavirus By 36%, And There’s More
By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. https://fort-russ.com/2020/04/kennedy-pentagon-study-shows-flu-shot-raises-risk-of-coronavirus-by-36-and-theres-more/
That pentagon study is hardly ever mentioned anymore, but should be.
This won't floormat as it's a Kindle book The corporations and their paid supporters claim that Tamiflu, their flu treatment, decreases symptoms and prevents complications such as pneumonia. But the best estimate of benefit is that it may save a half-day of sickness per individual per dose when prescribed immediately after the start of symptoms. This is nearly impossible. The FDA's longstanding opinion is that Tamiflu did not affect complications, hospital admissions, or survival. It prohibited the manufacturer from making these claims. A 2014 Cochrane review concluded the drug was worthless. They included many studies not sponsored by industry. Two meta-analyses said risks were higher than the benefits. Within a day of getting the drug, panic attacks, delusions, convulsions, and even suicide have been reported. Complete information is scarce, however. Study data withheld by the manufacturer would reveal the entire truth, but so far, there have been no legal challenges to get it. Industry sources, including John Bell (Professor of Medicine at Oxford), stonewalled Cochrane’s requests for access to Roche's unpublished Tamiflu studies. He was on the board of directors for Roche, and they paid him €322,450 in 2011. Well-referenced reviews in the Huff Post and the Atlantic report that Tamiflu does not decrease the chances of pneumonia or other severe illnesses. They also describe the obscene marketing—or rather mongering—by Hoffmann-La Roche and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Despite all this, the medication had $18 billion in sales (2017). The US, Britain, and other countries were somehow cajoled into stockpiling billions of dollars’ worth. The CDC itself is compromised by millions of dollars in pharmaceutical company donations. They claim, however: “Our planners and our content experts wish to disclose they have no financial interests or other relationships with the manufacturers of commercial products… [the] CDC does not accept commercial support.” Stephen A. Sheller, a Philadelphia lawyer, said “The CDC is a disgrace. It is a corrupt organization… the drug companies have them on their payroll." Their leaders go back and forth between their government and industry jobs and buy industry stock while they are working for the Agency. The label scamiflu instead of Tamiflu went viral on the Internet. A UK National Health Service analysis (2014) agreed: “The modest benefits of Tamiflu… do not justify the increased adverse risks, let alone the money spent on them.” The WHO belatedly removed Tamiflu from their essential medications list in 2017. The flu vaccine, just like Tamiflu, supposedly prevents pneumonia and other serious problems for those who are old or sick. Cochrane had grave doubts about this, however. They reviewed 90 flu vaccination studies and considered less than 10 percent of them decent science. Industry primarily funded the trials. Cochrane said: Inactivated vaccines can reduce the proportion of healthy adults (including pregnant women) who have influenza and influenza-like-illness, but their impact is modest. We are uncertain about the effects of inactivated vaccines on working days lost or severe complications of influenza during the flu season. Despite this, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends the vaccine for nearly everyone and the World Health Organization (WHO) recommends it for vulnerable groups. Many hospitals shame nurses who refuse to get vaccinated into wearing surgical face masks, and a few even get fired. This is a $4 billion industry worldwide, and $1.6 billion is spent in the US.
Yoho MD, Robert. Butchered by “Healthcare”: What to Do About Doctors, Big Pharma, and Corrupt Government Ruining Your Health and Medical Care (pp. 66-68). Inverness Press. Kindle Edition.
Excellent! Most drugs are marketed using deceit and misdirection as a means to get approval and the FDA, being controlled by big pharma, turns a blind eye. The biggest question for big pharma is always...how can we market this new drug into a billion dollar money maker? They couldn't care less it is helps anyone to get well or if it might support health in the long run. Never taking any big pharma drugs and am treating my heart problems with herbs and supplements. No statins, coumadin, stents or all that other nonsense.
I use K2-7 Complex for my thinner. Aspirin even at 81 mg would set off the GERD bad. My arteries are clear. Lutein Blue for vision. Having had cataracts removed, at vastly different times, 17 yrs apart, 1 dropped to the center of my vision. Wrong lens, left the cornea like a football. 2nd one just the usual film but my vision went screwy, ever try to read 3 font? Ended up with Lasix to fix the issue. Still didn't get all the Astigmatism. And you get SUPER DRY EYES. AVOID RESTASIS. Use a preservative free eye drop non-oily. What works for you is trial and error. I use Soothe or Sustain. Refresh was not for me.
I was going to take 1/2 of a baby aspirin, but they contain aluminum lake. I am using super hot cayenne drops (180,000 HU), hawthorn, nattokinase and adding a few things here and there. Still researching all this. I am currently reading a book by Malcolm Kendrick called "The Clot Thickens" and it is very good. Since I do not believe cholesterol or HDL causes heart problems, this books is offering a different scenario. Also, Thomas Cowan has a few books that offer some interesting theories about the heart and heart disease.
Flu shots are fraught with problems, not the least of which is the fact that the vax makers have to make a guess as to which strains will be active in a particular flu season. Naturally, their guesses are often wrong. The flu vaccines produced don't end up matching the flu strain that becomes dominant. In such a case, you're just taking a risk on side effects for no possible benefit. I've never had a flu shot and I ain't gonna start now.
Especially going forward.
I learned from nurse they are working on combining Modern Covid rNDA with flu shot. At least for seniors. Flue may be rNDA also. Likely next years shot.
I will never see how vaccines will ever improve the human immune system. Thousands of years before vaccines were ever invented, man survived childhood just fine to evolve from millions into billions of adults. No drugs needed!
Thanks for sharing a good story!
this chart is exactly why they are forcing the injection on everyone - to eliminate the control group.
I have absolutely no doubt that is exactly why they are trying to eliminate the control group.
Same as it ever was
Curious - they've basically succeeded in many countries and age groups, sadly
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Why they are TRYING to force-- language is so important now I feel-- speaking as defeated you are defeated 😊
Currently reading RFK Jr's new book about Fauci (while I wait for Plandemia which I received shipping notice this morning - finally!!). Everyone needs to read RFK's book...it does an outstanding job explaining how Fauci has been (and is currently?) able to set up trials so they either succeed or fail based solely on how it benefits him. It'll make sick and angry that this has been "allowed" to continue for over 40 years.
Same here. I want to read it but unsure if I can handle my anger.
I read both (well, listened). Highly recommend. Although I almost entirely disagree with Alex’s portrayal of Fauci’s handling of HIV-AIDS; and RFK correctly raises the underlying issues but avoids taking a stance on the conclusion. Read Duesberg’s “Inventing the AIDS Virus” and it will all make sense.
no longer in print. The ones on ebay are going for upwards of $400. Grabbed a CD audiobook instead....thx
My concern briefly as well, but you need to see it all.
Dershowitz was friends with Epstein and went to Pedo island. Sick fucks.
that is why I am apprehensive to read it....it will sicken me to the point of an ulcer and steaming mad....
Everyone needs to be angry and sickened by what is going on. Everyone.
Reading it now. A couple of other good ones: "The Truth bout COVID-19" by Dr. Mercola and "Is COVID-19 a Bioweapon" by Dr. Richard M. Fleming (an MD and a JD)
I also reccommed "A Plague Upon Our House" by Dr. Scott Atlas who exposes the lack of scientific study, groupthink and corruption of Birx, Fauci and Redfield during Atlas's time on the WH Task Force. He said he could not believe that these "scientists" mispronounced scientific terms during discussions.
Atlas is great!!
Yes, I am planning to read that. Is it available yet? Last I checked it was still forthcoming.
Yes...Dr. Mercola's book is excellent and eye-opening. It has a forward from RFK, too.
Will have to check those out. Thanks. Especially the second.
Another good one is "Corona, False Alarm' by Professor Sucharit Bhakdi and Dr. Karina Reiss
Yes! I should have mentioned that. It came out last year. I read it. Chelsea Green published he English translation, the same publisher who did Dr. Mercola's book.
I have read Mercolas book, and thank you for the referral for Flemings
I have a copy
I haven't gotten to it yet. What did you think?
Here's my trouble with reading the book. I am already decided on Fauci. In only the last year, he has committed abundant capital crimes in plain view that justify a capital sentence. What is there to gain from studying his preceding decades of evil? One does not need to read "Dr. Mengele: The Early Years" to understand that late-career Dr. Mengele needed to hang.
We all have a LOT of studying to do in the short time we have available. Time spent reading the biography of a psychopath is time we could have spent researching strategies for health, counteracting tyranny, and making positive contributions at work and at home.
If you've read the book and feel otherwise, I'd like to know why.
The court of public opinion matters more than one can say. Books like he Jungle and Uncle Tom's cabin were, to use a cliché, game-changers. You might not want or need to read the book, but it's an extremely important document, that like termites on wood, will eat away his reputation and expose his crimes. I can think of nothing more important. Who wants to take the advice of a criminal and a man who, among other things oversaw the use of young black orphans as guinea pigs in "medical" trials. Over 80 of them died. What will the "woke" say about that? Nothing, unless it is brought to public attention by this best-selling book.
That group specializes in pretending to not know things.
They specialize in refusing to acknowledge anything they don't want to know. I have tried to give material that explain the risks and questions surrounding the vaccination program and they won't even read/view it.
"What will the "woke" say about that?" They'll say it never happened. That's my guess, anyway.
Right
RFK exposes the STRUCTURE that Fauci is the head of. He didn't create it by himself, it is a world wide corrupt system. EVERY major research University is beholdened to his funding and structure. Most of his funding comes through his groups funding but an increasing part comes through the MIC in the US.-- the bio-weapon stuff. "Vaccines" are a part of this-- ALL vaccines, not just the bioweapon (COVID19) renamed a vaccine by CDC etc.
Yes, when he claims "he is science", he really means it.... he controls the science through threatening to withhold funding or providing funding to get the results he wants. It's terrifying and sickening that Fauci has obtained complete control of scientific research across the globe...it's mind boggling this was allowed to happen!!
Yes, it is
True! Also, watch David E Martin's most recent lecture. He goes into a lot of detail about the people and entities involved.
I plan to read it; haven’t yet. Friends in the gay community tell me Fauci was notorious in the ‘80s and they could never understand the awe in which he is held in the (mostly) liberal community. The broader more interesting issue for me is seeing how someone like this works and thrives in the DC environment. As a student of public administration I find it repelling, repugnant, and fascinating
That is thoroughly covered in this book...those alive in the 1980's will remember this well. I sure do....thanks to Fauci, I remember being told you could get HIV from a toilet seat....that really happened!!
They created a situation in which people were afraid of those with HIV. Where have we seen this before??? I remember it was a big deal when Princess Diana visited Aids patients and shook their hands and sat talking to them to show everyone publicly that they should not be afraid of Aids patients, that it was not transmissible by touch and proximity.
Exactly...for those of us that were teenagers/adults during the HIV epidemic this is ALL too familiar. He did the exact same thing from causing immense fear, blocked available/affordable treatments early on, stigmatized a portion of the population, and "created" a useless vaccine. It's the exact same playbook on a much larger scale.
“Dallas Buyers’ Club” is a good watch on this subject.
It's not a "biography", not even close. I liken this book to a court document for upcoming mass murder/serial killer trial. It is thoroughly documented, referenced, and quotes of those that would be most certainly be called to testify in Fauci's mass murder trial. It's an excellent book for someone that wants facts, not a "storyline". Highly recommend!!
well said :-)
I have the E-book and am wondering if I get into it how mad I will get and blow a gasket or two.
I'm not sure I have any gaskets left. 🤬
I hear ya.
Reading now as well. Just starting but wow - excellent.
Reading now too - we’ll it’s on audible.
Agreed ! Here in Davos/WEF controlled Canada (even though pre-ordered) my copies of RFK still haven't arrived. SO I am doing the kindle and audio versions for now.
Oh WELL DONE ALEX!!! I too am a grateful reader and your response to the critics MADE MY DAY. I am not crazy. You are not crazy. There is something WRONG and the DATA are trying to tell us as best they can that we need to STOP and INVESTIGATE. Bravo, You are a hero. Thank you so much.
I'm spite of the deliberately opaque public health data. There's only one reason the US, and generally the West, wouldn't have excellent, granular, specific statistics at the ready. TPTB don't need that data, they already know what's happening, they keep it hidden so we look like crazy conspiracy theorists piecing it together on the many bulletin boards with webs of red string.
I hate it when you smart ones are right. But you are. I should have thought of that myself (scarecrow says). Of course, they don't want us to see the real data. (slaps forehead ).
"Something is wrong. The promises that the health authorities have made over the last 12 months about the vaccines are not coming true. Despite near-complete levels of adult vaccination in Europe, many countries are seeing skyrocketing Covid cases and deaths. And worst of all, all-cause non-Covid mortality is running well above normal in country after country."
Amen. People can nitpick about methodology and confounders but it's all a sideshow. If Covid is as dangerous as claimed, and if the vaccine worked as promised, that chart should have been impossible despite supposed data flaws. Common folks get this intuitively which is what so scares those running this debacle.
Nitpicking is what they want us to do--its a "look over here, not there" kind of exercise. We need to START at Alexs last summary statement first and do meta analysis (not stats) from there. Time to put these silly definitional games away and look at the big picture.
"This is the first time in the history of medicine,where the inefficiency of a medicine is blamed on the people who didn't take it" -Dr Robert Malome
Waded thru every word. Something is going on, as you point out. Thank goodness for people like you who keep digging for the truth.
I believe there is a third issue with the data that I didn't see mentioned. The size of vaccinated population is calculated from the number of vaccines administered. The size of the unvaccinated population is calculated from a rough estimate of the total number of people in the UK minus the number of people vaccinated. The size of the unvaccinated population may be completely off.
This is why the loss of the long term control group for the vaccine trials is so obnoxious.
The definition is also an issue. If the vaccines are killing 30%-40% of those they kill within 2 weeks of the second dose, those deaths, often being attributed to “natural causes,” are falsely increasing the “unvaccinated” death rate. Until the definition is changed back to a sane acknowledgement of if a person got the shot, the data will be crap.
Someone needs to dig into every cardiac or unexpected “natural” death in the UK for a month to determine how skewed the “unvaccinated” group might be by the actually vaccinated but didn’t survive the full 2 weeks post “jab.”
All data collection now is about falsifying Covid Shot effectiveness;They didn't pick "two weeks" to be Fully Vaccinated by chance; All by Design.
I think they “picked” the time frame until maximum b-cell antibodies based on blood test. When the shots were clear, very early on, to make one more susceptible to Covid for at least a week afterwards they doubled down so people wouldn’t say it “gave” them Covid (even though that’s semantics - it caused people to get severely ill from Covid who otherwise wouldn’t have). To extend that definition to all-cause mortality was absolutely to hide the data. There is NO reason to categorize a heart attack death 1-week post vaccination as “unvaccinated” except to hide the vaccine deaths. If someone negative for Covid dies 1-week post vaccination then “immunity” to any virus has absolutely nothing to do with the virus, and the definition is clearly meant to hide adverse reactions from the shot.
Hiding the data is what they are all about right now. What Alex shows in this post that sometimes you can't hide it if you look hard enough
Exactly
exactly
The definition is a HUGE issue. Thats why they keep changing it. They don't care about the control group. People seem to think they want to figure if this works. They don't care, if they did, the CDC?WHO defines wouldn't keep changing, how groups collect and determine their stats (above avg. annual deaths etc.) wouldn't change as they have. They have purposely changed all that goes into data collection so they can hide the (sic) "side effects" of the vaccines. Occasionally in some countries the true trend (ie vaccinated are dying and being hospitalized more than unvaccinated) mistakenly come out-- that is what you are seeing in the UK and Israel stats.
Is that true for the UK? I thought the UK was actually separating out their fully unvaccinated vs their partially vaccinated vs their two weeks after the last shot groups.
Casey - I think they do collect that data but it's not presented in their mortality tables like that (at least from the charts I've seen that show hospitalization and death rates per 100k). Just vaxxed vs. Unvaxxed
Maybe someone else will chime in
I just checked the original data set that was used for the chart. They have four categories: Unvaccinated, Within 21 says of first dose, 21 days after first dose, second dose. So the "vaccinated" category would include anybody who died due to complications from the second dose.
Casey, I believe (but am not certain) that "vaccinated" means more than two weeks past the second jab.
I agree. The Covid surveillance report breaks it into categories but they don’t appear to be doing that on all cause mortality reports which aren’t included in the Covid report as only Covid deaths are (not non-Covid deaths).
And other countries do it differently --hence the data and comparisons to determine a world trend are already tainted. Unusable. That is deliberate.
Does that apply to non-Covid mortality or just Covid surveillance?
They are only separating the data for the Covid surveillance report - Covid positive tests, Covid positive hospitalizations, and Covid positive deaths. The Covid surveillance report doesn’t address all cause mortality (that’s another report). That standard report doesn’t break out deaths by vaccination status for all-cause, but the raw data has only 2 categories - vaccinated and unvaccinated. It doesn’t have the Covid report level of data based on vaccination timing (at least not the all cause death data I can find on the UK gov releases).
This data has a few different vaccine categories that includes the time after the 1st dose and immediately after the 2nd dose. And yes, it looks worse when you add all the vaccinated categories together.
I'm not 100% certain, so be careful here, but I spent quite a bit of time poring over a few weeks' worth of their "vaccine surveillance" reports. They break out the population by age and "vaccination" status. The only way I could get the numbers to make sense is if "unvaccinated" means everybody who isn't two weeks past their second jab. Because they have categories like "Received one dose (1-20 days before specimen date)" and "Received one dose, ≥21 days before specimen date", you are led to believe that their "Not vaccinated" category means no jabs at all. That had me confused for a long time.
Again, I have no way of being certain, but if this is true (as I believe), then "unvaccinated" includes vaccine-injured people and people who maybe would have died from C19, but the shot got them instead.
I saw this too. But they appear to be limiting that data to Covid surveillance, not all cause mortality.
Unless they release the raw data for all deaths, and include the time from shots or lack there of, the mortality data is crap when looking to see the impact of getting the shots. The people I know who died from “natural” causes between 40-50 were at incredibly low risk from the virus as all 3 were healthy and active with no underlying health conditions beyond one having mild environmental allergies.
I totally agree with the criticisms of their data and I believe it's presented disingenuously to push the vaccines, but compared to data (un)available in the U.S. they are the pinnacle of honesty.
Absolutely agree. Our reporting Stoney’s and we are surrounded by docs (our home, in all sides it’s MDs). The one who has run the local ED said administration is changing his reports and has been since April 2020.
Don't worry we are getting all the trial data - and of course the justification for vaccinating the control group in just a short 55 years!
Another excellent point.
Where do those with one vax shot land? Are they included in the unvaxxed numbers, along with those within two weeks of second jab? If so, that weighs down the overall health picture of the unvaxxed.
Casey - great thought!
Here's my dataset:
I'm unvaxxed and alive after nearly TWO YEARS of the pandemic.
I go out to the grocery store at least weekly and have been to restaurants, stores, etc. many, many times.
Do I think I'm likely to get the dreaded virus and die after all this time?
No, I don't.
End of Inquiry.
My stats are similar... 66 years old, unvaccinated, regular trips to all sorts of places, plus, I work full time and interact with 20 or 30 different people 6 days a week. Have never been sick, not for 3 or more years, Haven't had any vaccines for longer than I can remember. End of Story, Take care of your health, drink lots of water, exercise and eat good food!
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You guys are the control group...Enough said!
Same here, I have changed absolutely nothing about my comings and goings in the last 2 years, and not even a sniffle. There is a huge power grab going on under the scam that is c*vid, but many are not aware at all. It is quite terrifying, how can people not see that which is literally under their nose???. Astounding. And I will never have the Jab, ever. Unfortunately for me I live in England, one of the most corrupt Countries in the World.
The only thing that's changed for me is I don't go into the office occasionally like I use to since they are still in panic mode and demand the vax or the test. I'm like, whatever, I don't mind working from home 100% of the time anyway; in fact, it's kindof nice... :)
Me too! No toxic shots, never have had a test yet to see if I was sick ( we all know how useless and dangerous the tests are), think I had Covid in mid October as I lost my sense of smell and taste all at once for eight days, but it all came back. I never wear a mask...anywhere, have never used the hand disinfectant everyone throws at you, I use soap and water, and I spend many hours every week teaching kids and adults of all ages...privately! Have been taking Vitamin D3, Zinc + C, and eating healthy always. Covid was basically nothing for me, a runny nose and a bit tired...and the loss of the senses-that was really strange! Thanks Alex for your work and your passion in revealing the truth....and for the commenters who support you ...cannot wait to read Bobby Kennedy's new book....I also hope I can control my anger! I am 59 by the way.....and the death shots need to stop. What upsets me the most is the high level of compliance everywhere..I will never comply! I will always resist....civil disobedience is the only way out of this disaster called Covid...sadly our vote today in Switzerland went to the yes camp....it is a let down, but we will keep fighting for what is right.
Same with me 😊
Having turned 80 this year, and still possessing most of my faculties, to "Booster" or not is a nagging dilemma. I am not a natural born skeptic, Polio was the scourge of my childhood....so, I took all of the recommended vaccines, and I have never been truly sick in my life...aside from an occasional bout of Gin-Fever! Something happens when the calendar says....80 years old! That is really OLD! My doctor, who is very conservative, and has expressed his concerns about the "jab" in the past, is now recommending the booster. But, my "healthy as a horse" 83 year old brother-in-law died of a heart attack 2 weeks after having received his 2nd Pfizer shot. Never had any heart problems before. The docs insist it was not related to the vaccine....??
My point, I suppose, is how maddening it is that this Covid-mess has been created by our inept government, literally and figuratively! It has been politicized to the point that we have ZERO CONFIDENCE in anything they say or do. But, I am not ready to die.....and....living in fear and confusion, I suspect, may be just as damaging as just taking the damn booster.
Well, sir, with all respect, sincerely, I don't think you should receive the booster. Of course I say that not knowing the level of your ability to function in your society without a "pass".
Agree with that!
Personally, in your shoes I'd avoid the booster and look into protocols for squashing the virus early.
I suspect that the boosters are just mop-up shots to kill the ones that survived their earlier shots.
Let's see if we can square this circle. The thing that was supposed to "save" us from a virus we don't really need saving from failed miserably, and yet with the new moronic variant hysteria they're advocating for more of the same thing that failed miserably for the last variant. I can't offer Kim K's ass either, but maybe this is all about something else entirely?
https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/seven-sins-in-the-time-of-covid
What’s the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Lol
Excellent! 😎
Totally agree, this is not what TPTSNB would have us believe.
I read the article and several statistical reviews. I think the chart was good to gain attention, and I found the statistical reviews informative (they did find an increase in all cause mortality in the vaccinated, with levels rising, but not to the point they double overall all cause mortality).
Beyond that I now know 3 healthy dads that died since October 1st between the ages of 40-50 (the most recent dropped dead while mountain biking within the last 2 weeks - no accident, just dropped dead. Autopsy in process).
I do think it’s inaccurate to imply the vaccine is causing all cause mortality to be fully double in the vaccinated v unvaccinated group because of the age skewing, which is greater than any underlying co-morbid disease difference. The physiological insinuation is also assumption - personally, the healthier people I know are far more scared of the vaccine, on average, than the less healthy who are terrified of Covid (oddly, even if they have recovered).
What does concern me is the rise in unexplained or cardiac related mortality in the vaccinated group. Even 1 death per 100,000 makes these vaccines very dangerous for the vast majority of the population that faces a lower risk from SARS-cov-2. It also suggest we should be focusing on early treatment, not mass vaccinations correlated to worse population wide outcomes. Most of the actually vulnerable are already dead. Fifty year olds getting early treatment die at lower rates than 1 in 100,000. Even unhealthy 25 year olds with no treatment die at a much lower rate. My true fear is vaccine induced mortality is closer to 1 in 25,000 which is awful. They pulled the H1N1 vaccine within the last decade for causing severe insomnia at similar rates…… and these are actual lives. Human beings who still had lives to lead. Some of them children.
Can you find data with more nuanced age groups? I do appreciate the focus on this stuff. These vaccines are at best simply not working with mass vaccination (this robbing the genuinely elderly of even temporary protection). More likely they are lethal. They don’t need to kill as many people under 65 as auto accidents or overdose deaths to be awful. Graphs showing increased mortality excluding accidental deaths would clearly differentiate the groups, but I find that data hard to find.
They aren’t offering any durable protection, so every death from the vaccines is an unnecessary tragedy - particularly when the deaths occur in someone coerced into taking it to keep a job or remain enrolled in school.
One of the things they are not considering with myocarditis is the risk of repeated exposure. In response to vaccine hesitancy due to myocarditis the response is that myocarditis is worse from covid, but you may only get covid once in your entire life. Meanwhile you are getting a vaccine every year, twice considering boosters, and now they are suggesting boosters every 3 months. That is 4x a year that you are taking an injection that can cause myocarditis, compared to the risk of getting covid sometime in your lifetime.
Despite possibilities like the unvaccinated group skewing healthier and younger, doesn't this data definitively disprove the existence of an extremely dangerous virus combined with a highly effective vaccine?
An extremely dangerous virus would significantly increase the mortality in both groups, while a highly effective vaccine would then go and cause a big reduction in mortality in the vaccinated group. But that's not what we're seeing. Please do correct me if there's a flaw in my logic.
Do these numbers exist for previous years? The are plenty of other factors involved of course, but comparing 2019 (no COVID, no vaccine) with 2020 (COVID but no vaccine) and 2021 (COVID and vaccine) would be an interesting start.
Alex should mention 2004. That was the year flu vaccines were in “critically “ short supply. Interestingly, the official flu death rates for that year barely deviated from any other year.
That was also the year that they started lumping flu deaths in with flu + pneumonia.
Excellent point! I forgot that. I was on a Primary Care hospital board during SARS (2003) and you just jogged my memory -- yes that was the case in Toronto-- part of getting us afraid (their form of fear porn then) "oh no"🙄
Yes! I'm in Canada and remember that attempt to scare people. Didn't work. This time though the scammers and schemers figured out how to get to people. Sad.
Lol good one
Italian newspaper Il Tempo reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes Toby Young.
I remember an Italian doctor in Lombardy saying in March of 2020 they were overstating deaths.
This is what they really said about Lombardy from that time period. https://rep.repubblica.it/pwa/locali/2020/04/03/news/milano_la_ricerca_dell_universita_statale_i_contagi_reali_in_italia_potrebbero_essere_5_milioni_-253027121/?ref=RHPPTP-BH-I253056306-C12-P3-S5.4-T1&fbclid=IwAR29QWe1YYytwA0svAxfw6ox6SRMTMxXAhH4cqVBAW7uBbAREDqORqjvdOM&refresh_ce
Those are infections. We're talking deaths. At the time, they had the same debates we had going about over stating 'with' and 'from' Covid deaths. There were a couple of prominent Italian doctors from the largest hospitals who claimed this at the time. On the flip side, it's been asserted it's under reported as well. Citing 'all cause mortality' as being much higher. All I know is where I am in Canada, c. 80% of this province's deaths were in nursing homes and in the 70+ demographic with co-morbordities. We could have avoided that and prevented some deaths if we offered therapeutics. Man made this thing worse than it needed to be.
Yup probably buried on page 20
sigh. What is the purpose of putting out misinformation like this? Wrong, and easily debunked. Stick to the data, stick to the science. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/05/fact-check-italy-did-not-lower-its-covid-19-death-toll-3-783/6195621001/
BS! Matt, go back to your LIBTARD board.
https://www.iltempo.it/attualita/2021/10/21/news/rapporto-iss-morti-covid-malattie-patologie-come-influenza-pandemia-disastro-mortalita-bechis-29134543/
That's really convincing.
I could believe you were simply misinformed, that happens.
But you're not going to convince anyone of anything by tossing off silly insults. Other than what your behavior shows about you.
Have a nice day.
Okay, Brandon
And thanks, Alex, for unblocking the comments page for us non-paying subscribers, if only for this important post.
Yes, thank you Alex.
All you have to do is tap on the heart icon at the end of Alex's posts. It takes you to the comments.
bravo alex - way to acknowledge your opposing critiques and counterarguments and further explore your questions and points. Something is very strange with both the outcomes and the unilateralism of the worldwide covid regime, and you are a legend for nutting up and speaking into the wind. huge props to you!
Oh dear. I am sorry to learn that I am some kind of vaccine fanatic. This is odd as I am not vaccinated and will not get vaccinated with any of the currently available products. I will go to prison rather than take an mRNA or vector vaccine, and that is now a real possibility in my country.
"They have identified and latched on to ONE complication of using population-level data to judge vaccine effectiveness - the fact that differing rates of uptake by age may make the Covid vaccines seem less effective than they are. "
Your original claim boiled down to "vaccinated die more frequently", and if true that would indicate a problem with vaccine safety, not efficacy. The distinction between efficacy and safety is important. We know the efficacy of the vaccine does not last long. We also know the safety is questionable (but from other data like VAERS, not this data), and that as a result the benefit/risk ratio is low in young people with little to fear from infection, certainly compared to elderly, institutionalised people at high risk of death from infection.
"the two objections effectively cancel each other out "
Not really, because an observation of one effect in one age group has nothing to do with a countervailing effect in another.
The ONS data as broken down by age group is essentially worthless for answering questions about vaccine efficacy and safety. It can only tell us what is going on in terms of overall mortality in that population.
One may even speculate that the age breakdown is done deliberately to obfuscate things and make the data worthless for evaluating any effect (efficacy or safety) of the vaccines. Certainly, in my long experience in this field, the use of a 10-59 years band in any analysis of effect of medicines by age group is unique.
Yes, I don't think it's right to dismiss anyone who questioned the original data as a vaccine fanatic any more than someone who is fully vaccinated but questions mandates should be called an "antivaxxer."
There are those of us who are on the side of trying to untangle what is going on here and those of them who are trying to suppress the truth. Question Everything, and that includes, sometimes, questioning Alex Berenson. The problem with having thoughtful, skeptical readers is that we are going to keep calling him out-- and at the same time, we'll be the first ones to have his back when the legacy media comes with their pitchforks.
Many interesting points in this thread, but none that seriously address the central problem with last week's post. Disappointed that Alex doesn't see that and disparages folks just trying to keep Team Reality to it's name.
I agree, very disappointing response. The 4-part series in www.covid-datascience.com, just to cite one example, was thorough and pretty devastating to Alex's arguments, as well as being a clearly superior examination of the data. Alex's response not only sidesteps that riposte, it pretends that the arguments of the ripostes, e.g., Simpson's paradox, don't even exist. I think better of Alex than to believe he's traded in intellectual honesty for having a loyal following; those shouldn't be mutually exclusive. The very simple truth here is that people who understand data far better than he does, reach different conclusions, and can demonstrate his errors. He'd be more credible just deferring on this one.
Couldn’t agree more. We have to be careful or we’ll just see what we want to see, much like the covidians who see death lurking behind every unmasked face.
I know that Covid is nothing to worry about for most people.
I know the vaccines are neither safe nor effective.
I want hard evidence of that ... something irrefutable so this madness can end.
I too want hard evidence, but I realize we NEVER get that in any area using human beings to define, collect and measure things they have bias about or interests $ in.
BTW not sure this" madness" (trying to get to the truth, letting people decide if they want to risk their lives--is it really ours to change?) ends. Be present, focus on love.
By madness, I mean lockdowns, vaccine mandates, etc. I don't care to persuade anyone about vaccine safety or efficacy. Live and let live. I just don't want to be forced to get a vaccine, or to go through another lockdown. I'm thinking more about personal freedom and civil liberties.
What is notable is that Alex doesn't engage directly with critics or critiques. Instead, he throws out this kind of un-interrogated red meat to a mostly adoring readership who will, in the vast majority, merely accept his conclusions uncritically. The irony here is that kind of behavior exactly mirrors the behaviors he criticizes from the medical establishment. He throws out a vague conflation of correlation with causation under an umbrella of "just asking questions" under a cover plausible deniability - and then selectively cherry-picks snippets of criticism so as to support pre-conceived counterarguments. Then he boastfully touts his own "expertise" as some kind of appeal to his own authority. It's a toxic mix, and not at all what we need as a way to wade through the vast amount of information being poured out in our direction. Unfortunately, with Alex it's more about Alex then anything else.
It's interesting how measured, modest and careful he was in the recent Rogan interview. Seems to contrast with some of what's been seen here on Substack.
It does appear to me in looking at this data set that the vaccinated are overall healthier than the unvaccinated. I haven't thought enough about how to estimate the effect size, but here is my initial thoughts on the evidence for this: https://inumero.substack.com/p/uk-mortality-data-a-clue-on-relative?r=tv61s&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=copy
Your original claim boiled down to "vaccinated die more frequently", and if true that would indicate a problem with vaccine safety, not efficacy. Not necessarily-- not sure how you feel this is indicated. Measurement? no questions about how that is done?
What do we care about in terms of vaccine efficacy? We care about keeping people out of coffins. People in the age group 10-59 do die of coronavirus infection, but so few of them do that a vaccine signal simply cannot turn up in that group.
You can measure vaccine efficacy in terms of self-reported infection as was done in the clinical trials, but this is at best a surrogate endpoint for the clinically relevant endpoint of death.
Isn't the central point that governments have foisted a universal, experimental injection upon the hundreds of millions of Americans (and people abroad) who were always at functionally zero risk?
High risk, low reward.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/john-prine-self-healthcare-and-vaxx
Yes! Keep the main thing the main thing!
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Absolutely. It is almost unthinkable how badly our reaction has been. Preventing actual loss of life should have been the focus. Successful treatment strategies (such as Drs. Brian Tyson, Frontline Docs, Pierre Kory, Zev Zelenko) should have been made widely available and adapted/changed with rapidly developing knowledge. Crisis mgt 101. Correlation to obesity, vitamin D deficiency, etc. should have been common knowledge by spring 2020. When this didn't happen, we gave our 3 letter agencies the benefit of the doubt for "winging it" for a while but over time, bureaucratic incompetence could no longer explain what we witnessed.
It is beyond a travesty to let the vulnerable languish for a false panacea in the "vaccine" and to rob real life experience to the vast majority, young thru middle age, with a 99.7% or better chance of survival. The level of mass delusion ("mass formation?") is stunning. But we will survive this darkest of times. It is in our nature and cannot be injected out.
🙏Medical professionals know better
Nothing scares fearful people more than death--even if it is more remote for them than winning a lottery 🙄
That's probably true for most people, but not for me. I have no fear whatsoever of death, nor of dying, which is not the same thing, though obviously related. I honestly can't remember ever having been afraid of death, but I certainly have no fear of it now that I've been very close to it several times during my lifetime. (I'm 65.)
Each of the several times I was near death, or else was miraculously gifted with a brief experience of Higher Reality, I was disappointed when I realized I had to come back to my body and stay here on earth for longer. I’m ready to die at any time, and have been for many years.
The reality we experience while living in our human bodies is insubstantial and insipid compared to the higher reality we return to when we die. If what we experience here on earth is "real," then what we experience once we're finally fully out of our bodies is "hyper-real." I've experienced this. It's as different as night is from day.
I’ve been looking at the obituary pages in my local paper lately and I noticed there were several people who died that were in the 40’s to 60’s age range, which is rather strange given that you usually only see the elderly in the obits. 1 of the obits mentioned Covid as cause of death. I would lay money that the person was probably vax’d.
I know 3 healthy fathers that died since October 1 between 40-50. One was thought to have died in a single car accident, but autopsy revealed he was dead prior to impact from an aneurysm. Another died in his sleep. The 3rd one dropped dead mountain biking - no accident, just dropped dead while riding.
Before this year of knew maybe 2 people who just dropped dead under the age of 50 my entire life. This year there were 3 in 7 weeks. That’s terrifying.
There seems to be an uptick in athletes dropping dead or sick.
That’s for sure. The sad thing is the under the radar stuff they kind of admit to. The swelling might be temporary for all these young men and boys, but the damage is permanent. Decades are being taken off their life, while there quality of life is being destroyed. My husband played soccer in college. I’ve always been an athlete. We are still very active. Having that taken from either of us today would be awful. The thought of having it taken as teenagers or young adults is devastating. It would have destroyed our motivation in life. I can’t believe how indifferent the general public is to the damaging impact on young people, who aren’t at risk from the virus, but are having their quality of life destroyed by these vaccines.
Adults are supposed to protect children. The old are not supposed to demand the sacrifice of the young to appease their fears. It’s all so against the natural order of things. It’s evil.
Minerva - I have seen SO many of these. Many do not say cause of death but most imply a short illness or a sudden death. I am so curious if there's anything to this.
I read the Obits regularly too, I always have, I'm just weird that way I guess. I too have seen much more not elderly " died suddenly " obits. One said sudden unexpected death of a 45 year old who died on his couch while watching a baseball game...
The UK officials could, of course, unconfound that chart by breaking the 10-59 group into 10-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, and 50-59 just like they do with those over age of 60. That they don't do this is a tell, in my not so humble opinion.
Thank you Alex! Your work is incredibly important! This reader (paid subscriber) is very grateful for your honest reporting...
Nothing is truer today....
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein.
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Alex did you see Mathew Crawford's reanalysis that accounts for population age? It shows precisely zero benefit (so not negative efficacy but obviously still showing a complete failure)
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/uk-data-shows-no-all-cause-mortality
I read this but the thing missing from all the data, making the data crap, are the people who die from the vaccine less than 2 weeks post second “Jab.” Because these deaths are being inexplicably labeled “natural causes,” and the individuals who die are considered “unvaccinated,” the numbers are skewed.
I hope someone picks a month and digs into every unexplained or cardiac related death in the UK of the under 65 population to see how many are in the “unvaccinated” but actually got 1-2 shots category.
Are you sure those cases are not rolled into "21 or more days past first dose"?
However I'm not certain whether either of the analyses include the "partial" categories. By rights they belong in the vaccinated category for this analysis. But based on the labels of the graph, I think they are only looking at unvaccinated and 14 days post dose 2 columns.
If this is the case, then surely the corrected analysis WOULD show negative efficacy if those numbers were included.
Surely Alex knows about Matthew Crawford's article, but he doesn't mention it. I kept looking for Alex to mention "Simpson's Paradox" in this article. I get that a response of sorts is in this article. Different population characteristics prevent direct comparison. But those properly cautious about mRNA vaccines have to be very careful. The chart that went "viral" was misrepresented by those who made it viral. They drew conclusions that were speculative. To your and Matthew Crawdord's point, that is not necessary. Lack of efficacy is enough. No need to leap to negative efficacy. It may be true that there is negative efficacy from mRNA vaccines over medium and longer term. But lack of efficacy is pretty damning at this stage. No need to stretch.
I agree. The rush to eliminate the control group by the very people who have the only full access to the raw data is what makes me suspicious these deaths are more than qualitative personal observations. The fact deaths are up, be it from the vaccine or the useless mitigation, make clear this stuff is harming, not helping. Mandating a useless vaccine is crazy - like burning young women at the stake or killing kids to (not actually) make it rain.
The rush in NY to cancel surgeries for cancer and nearly everything else, especially considering the nursing home fiasco, makes me more suspicious. It’s not sane to shutdown access to healthcare now for something that may or may not be an issue in 2 months or 3 months or never. That stuff, combined with millions of starvation deaths in poorer countries, and addiction as well as accidental deaths going up in the West, make me very very suspicious that this is an intentional attempt at a mass death.
Destroying an entire generation of US kids with zero evidence of positive effect on a virus, and very far from any evidence it was ever “necessary,” leads me to conclude this is all intentional with each illiberal leftist political entity playing their part in the mob hysteria - no need for direct instruction - the message is clear and the followers are stepping up to do their part with no concern for the final goal, only for the leftist insanity.
The same way the exit from Afghanistan, particularly relating to strategically important Bagram air base with 2 of the most advanced and inexplicably still fully functional runways on the planet, was so far passed incompetent it seems to be outright intentional.
I’m not even sure the end goal, if there ever was one, actually matters. I think it’s just insanity for the sake of “winning” a silly power struggle.
The is no negative efficacy from mRNA technology (not a vaccine sorry) because there is no medium to long term use to get data from . HOWEVER there is lots of research by Dr. Malone (creator) and other mRNA experts that have shown Prion, Autoimmune, Heart issues are coming.
Yes there is negative efficiency data - spread increases dramatically once a population reaches a critical mass of vaccinated individuals. The vaccines are fueling spread. That’s negative efficiency.
That shows negative efficiency because if it were natural viral curves you couldn’t predict exactly when the spread in certain areas would occur. Yet many, including Alex, have been. Do was one of the early states to mass vaccinate and have people still intermingle. So was VT which saw the “delta” spread around the same time as FL (though it was mostly ignored). While seasonal patterns impact severity, The UK wouldn’t have preceded its same longitude European neighbors by the exact difference in the time to vaccinate a critical mass to cause increased spread (which is about 3 months). Alex correctly predicted what is happening right now in Western Europe 3 months ago because it was predictable. The first week of November I correctly predicted an disproportionate uptick in kids testing positive for Covid beginning around Thanksgiving. It’s not from being super genius humans - it’s from noticing predictable patterns and saying (or typing) them out loud.
I should be more clear, it's a little disappointing to me that Alex didn't issue a correction of sorts. I mean, the graph is "true" but also truthfully misleading. It gives pro-vax people something to latch onto that a critical thinking person will correctly see as being a misleading statistic (and the stat doesn't pass the smell test to start with - 2x death rate is impossible to not notice!). Maybe by now we're beyond the point of convincing anyone with data, but it just doesn't seem necessary when a more correct analysis still produces a significant problem.
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Hi Jim, regarding the mRNA shots, you said: " Lack of efficacy is pretty damning... Lack of efficacy is enough".
QUESTION: If lack of efficacy is "enough"... to WHOM is it enough? WHY is it enough? WHAT is it enough for?
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What? The what would be vaccinating the masses. To whom is lack of efficacy not enough to stop mass vaccination, particularly of the low risk???? Why would one get a useless medication that can only can have downside risk?
Hi NCmom, I believe many vaccinated people see a significant "lack of efficacy" relative to their expectations; so do many independent data analysts and research scientists in the field and so does Tony Fauci for that matter. Moreover, this lack of efficacy has been more or less evident for quite some time. And yet this evident lack of efficacy has done precisely NOTHING to stop mass vaccination; not of the low risk and not even of the NO risk.
Clearly, lack of efficacy isn't stopping, or even slowing down, the warp-speed vaccine train. So, if this is not the time to talk about negative efficacy and increased overall mortality, when will it be time?
A study of human history and authoritarianism might better explain the situation. Absolutely nothing about the previous administration was authoritarian. Nothing. But squawking about it for 4 years conditioned the large, stupid, and gullible portions of society, which are large, to accept complete authoritarianism from “their” team……….. it’s about compliance, nothing at all to do with a virus.
The virus is a red herring. And the public health response is a trojan horse. Sorry to mix metaphors :-)
If the mRNA "vaccines" lack efficacy, then forced vaccination and prohibition of off-label drugs fail. Of course, FDA, CDC and Pharma deny this. But Matthew Crawford's analysis shows this. No need to get to negative efficacy / lack of safety.
That's Alex's focus right now. So no need to go to negative efficacy.
I agree with Steve Kirsch that the mRNA technology is unsafe, but isn't that beyond what Alex has been reporting on?
Yes, and I don't think Mathew accounts for deaths among "partially vaxed", which would certainly push it into negative territory.
I did. But without TRUE MEANINGFUL DATA, they are both only doing the best they can. When you put the single dose, double dosed not 14 days out into the unvaxxed category, you have more than just Simpsons paradox. And until they redo the data to account for this, you have to admit no matter what, it needs further investigation. CLOSE investigation by age, properly defined as to vaxed/unvaxxed. And that should be GOAL NUMBER ONE.
The spreadsheet splits out the data into 4 categories (vax, partial<21d, partial>21d, full) - so I don't think those partial cases are included in "not vaccinated". I think those partial categories are ignored in Alex's chart and in Mathew's analysis also. But I agree that it would be nice to re-do the analysis including the partial categories! And I also agree that UK has this data, they should release a proper analysis or just the raw data listing date of vaccination and/or death and hospitalizations for anonymized individuals.
But that’s only the data as it relates to Covid. The surveillance reports don’t address non-Covid related mortality. A heart attack 5 days post-op, or 5 months, or with no shots, wouldn’t show up on the Covid surveillance reports.
In their "vaccine surveillance" weekly reporting, I'm pretty sure unjabbed-at-all would be Total - (partial<21d, partial>21d, full); and that "not vaccinated" is anybody not more than two weeks past their second jab. It's the only way I could get the numbers to make sense. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that's also the case in the spreadsheet. I'm not 100% certain in either case - I would love to see analyses by a competent statistician.
Maybe I am misunderstanding.. because for me they seem to add up. Picking week 37 for example, for under 18:
Total 190,863
Unlinked 16,825
Unvaccinated 161,418
<21d 9,812
>21d 1,999
Full 809
they seem to add up?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018416/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf . (page 13)
Yes, you're right. I haven't looked at that for a while and was going by memory. Sorry about mis-stating that. It's where they show the rates per 100,000 population that the definition of "unvaccinated" changes. Having tables where the numbers clearly add up, as you point out, leads one to believe that "unvaccinated" means exactly that. And it does, until it doesn't.
Incidentally, in the later weekly reports, the rates per 100,000 were moved to a separate table which, intentionally or not, tends to make it even harder to make sense of their data.
Apologies again for getting it wrong.
No worries! We're all trying to figure this stuff out. Actually, I also didn't think that the non-vaxx column for cases/100K was including partial vax.
That’s Covid positive test results for those under 18. Nothing to do with deaths at all. The hospitalizations and deaths on the next pages are only relating to Covid positive people and Covid positive deaths (not all cause mortality).
I thought Dan was referring to the 'vaccine surveillance reports', and saying that the categories in those tables were not disjoint - but they seem to be. They also seem to be disjoint for the all cause spreadsheet tables.
That’s only relating to Covid deaths, not all cause mortality. If the vaccines are causing heart attacks, it doesn’t show up on that report. Only Covid positive deaths do
Yes, I agree, I was responding to Dan who said that he thought the unvaccinated column also included the "partials" and the numbers didn't add up in those reports; but when I add them up it seems like the 4 categories are disjoint. I'm assuming they use the same methodology for the all cause mortality spreadsheet. When I add up those numbers, they all sum to approximately the same amount over time, even as the partials vary quite a bit, so I think that in that case also, the 4 categories are disjoint.
So I read in RFK jr’s book that Dr. Feces never presented one study, or even mentioned a treatment algorithm for Covid. He said stay home and quarantine until can’t breathe. Then we will put you on a ventilator and kill you.
Wanna know why? Because you can’t declare Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for a vaccine if there are other treatment options available.
These monsters killed hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions across the world.
That's what I read months ago also. It's all smoke and mirrors meant to divide, conquer, and kill. I'm sure there were low level scientists trying to do good work, but the guys at the top, they were all working with Lefticrat party elites to cause as much death and disruption as possible. They created the emergency being exploited across the globe.
Their own numbers condemn them. If you believe vaccines are beneficial, as the vaxxism practitioners do, then they're failing to reach the most vulnerable population -- unhealthy seniors. Meanwhile, they want to vaccinate 1 million teenagers to prevent 8,000 cases and 1 death.
At this point I question any type of vax for a senior....sick or not. Eat right, exercise, wash hands and use good common sense around crowds if you are older and have comorbidities. I am to the point I trust very few in the health establishment.
I agree.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/john-prine-self-healthcare-and-vaxx
I trust no one at all who is part of the contemporary western medical establishment.
Whew. Alex... thanks so much for this. I had posted this study to other comment sections saying pretty much what you summarize:
"Something is wrong. The promises that the health authorities have made over the last 12 months about the vaccines are not coming true. Despite near-complete levels of adult vaccination in Europe, many countries are seeing skyrocketing Covid cases and deaths. And worst of all, all-cause non-Covid mortality is running well above normal in country after country."
And they went nuts!
This says it all:
"These folks think they are sophisticated thinkers who have blown up apparent evidence that the vaccines are dangerous. In fact, just as they have for the last several months, they are telling themselves what they want to hear instead of listening to what the data are saying - and, increasingly, shouting."
I was lambasted with claims like "this is disinformation, you are dangerous and should be censored!"
There is no real intellectual curiosity nor intellectual honesty with the COVID vaccine cult. Not only is it impossible reason with them, but there is really no ability to engage in intellectual debate... no matter how clear is the data challenging their "science".
But here is why I think some of them are so determined to build their fortress of defense. The corporate media is continuing to deliver pandemic propaganda. I don't watch much TV "news", but I do listen to the radio and read newspapers. Biden dollars are also being used for government-paid "public service" advertising. There is a strong and consistent message that pushes this narrative that COVID is dangerous to all and everyone needs to be vaccinated.
Because of this and other dots I can connect, I am convinced that this is a PLANDEMIC and the Billionaire Boys Club, the globalists and the Democrats are all colluding to extend the chaos being caused as the catalyst for their Great Reset "Build Back Better" project. The pandemic gave the American Democrats the mail-in-ballot justification. Without it Trump would still be POTUS and the Senate still in GOP hands... and the Trump anti-globalist project would have made more progress. But the Democrats had failed to get their pet legislation passed (permanent mail-in ballots, immigrants give voting rights, and more massive social spending), and now they are in trouble leading into the mid-terms. So they NEED the pandemic to carry them through the 2022 election at least... so they can again cheat in the election and stuff more reliable Democrat favoring mailed ballots in the box.
I believe we are in WWIII and the pandemic is the new nuclear weapon. Thank God for people like Alex and platforms like Substack. With them we might again defeat the enemy of the world and get back to peace and prosperity.
Please don't downvote, I'm only the messenger (I know, it sounds a bit like a rambling incoherent Biden, but, no it is in fact Trump):
TRUMP: "I don't like [mandates], but I think you should. Look, I took it. I took the vaccine. I was proud to do it. Somebody said, oh, sir, maybe you know it’s a little controversial. Don't mention. Now just the opposite. I’m very proud."
"We did something in nine months – less than nine months that wasn’t doable in five years. Fauci said it would take more than five years, and who knows if it’s going to work. It really works well, and even the people that get it they don't end up going to the hospital – they don't die. But sometimes the person will – you know, very rarely, but the people get it. You know they make a big deal out of that, but people get it but they don't die. They don't go to the hospital even. It’s a great thing that we did and, you know, I’m never going – I’m never going to disown it. I think I saved tens of billions of people all over the world. (Inaudible)."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/11/27/trump_biden_has_been_totally_unsuccessful_in_dealing_with_the_china_virus.html
So, a politician bragging about his accomplishments surprises you?
Keep in mind Trump was misled by the same people who misled us.
"Was mislead"? Operation Warp Speed was two years ago. In 2021 he's saying, "take the jab." Is he still being misled? And, I presume, you would like someone who is easily misled to be president. BTW, I wasn't misled; not then, not now.
I do not think he should run for president but not because he allowed himself to be misled. He is viewed by far too many people as a horrible person(some of his actions as president as well as before and since are, as the wicked witch of the east said, deplorable). He would never be capable of uniting the citizens of the US. We need a president capable of uniting us once again unlike the current houseplant-in-chief…
I consider anyone who wants to rule me as a horrible person. Some are less horrible than others. Trump is one of the least horrible. Dont confuse gruff with horrible.
Ballots always include "sucks" and "sucks less." "Doesn't suck" never runs. Always vote "sucks less."
lol. the last person i voted FOR was ross perot. that doesn't mean i haven't voted since then, i just voted against the 'really sucks' candidate. i liked trump as our president. i think he did more (and acted more like a leader) of americans than any president in the modern era. i just think he will not be able to overcome the voters who will vote against him for whatever straw man(or woman) the dems install as their candidate in the next election. however, i will vote FOR him if he is nominated as the alternative will undoubtedly be in the 'really sucks' or 'is satans minion' category...
Whatever anyone tells themselves, we vote FOR policies and a person in an election unless it’s a recall. Too many failed to realize that and we got Brandon.
Some wish their politicians to be administrators, public employees. Some wish their politicians to be benevolent gods, making their lives wonderful. I would like for no one to be a public god. Competent administrators make mistakes. The good ones correct them and move on. Maybe President Scooter will not make mistakes.
I want our politicians to do hard time in a penitentiary, so I guess we disagree a little on that point.
We don't do that in the US. We catch one breaking the law now and then and lock him up. Useful warning to the others. Probably not often enough. Pelosi's insider trading might be a candidate.
Try and point out to one of the hard core MAGA Trump "supporters" something he did wrong and see who considers some public figure to be like an infallible "god". I could tell you what that's like but you can't possibly imagine it until you've experienced it (like I have for 6 years running). Oh, and unlike Trump, I'm a conservative (based on the judgement bestowed upon Trump by none other than Rush Limbaugh, "I wish Trump was a conservative but we didn't get a conservative."-Rush Limbaugh (circa 2015).
Same is true for hard core joe supporters. I try to avoid both. When confronted by them I only offer ridicule.
The problem with expecting politicians to be "like me" is nobody is like me. Or you. Which is probably a good thing, but certainly makes life more interesting. Perfect ain't gonna happen. Best we can hope for is "better."
I can deal with hard-core Biden supporters. They're the enemy we know. It's the Trump supporters who will attack without engaging.
I see how his fans are saying he was misled, but does Trump say the same thing? He seems to think that he has accomplished something rather than that he made a mistake. Trump is a fraud.
Developing a vax in the face of a highly lethal virus was the correct response. Getting it done quickly was miraculous. He knew he was being rolled when they banned hcq. His problem from day one was the deep state. The failure wasn't Trump, it was the seditious government.
There was/is no "highly lethal virus", and if there was, treatments would be in order, not vaccines. You seem to have bought all the TV propaganda that has been spread around ever since this scam started.
Operation warp speed funded both vaccines snd therapeutics. Trump was attacked mercilessly for demanding people gave the right to try HCQ and Ivermectin.
Comparing the authoritarian loving losers that have taken over the Democrat party and are destroying the country, and really the world, via executive orders is NOT the same as having a different opinion on the vaccine while fully supporting individual choice….
Conflate the two and don’t complain when things go predictably bad as they have with Brandon.
Yes, I was there and I saw what went on. Trump did state that people should have a choice to use the same drugs he was usng. No argument there. Still, he went whole hog with the whole scam, which was and is still, an imaginary virus and a "pandemic" by proclamation only. The WHO changed the definition of the word pandemic so that this fake pandemic could be declared.
Trump went along with that. I don't think he's an idiot, so how did he miss the obvious fakery? Blame it on his advisors, but it was his job to examine what was going on and he went along with it, even pretending to have "covid" for a few days.
You're conflating my criticism of Trump with being some kind of Biden supporter. I despise Biden and his party as much as anyone does. I am sure that the 2020 election was stolen, with Trump's knowledge and assent. If you get all of your facts from TV news, you probably need to read this series of articles. Start with the 1st chapter and the others will be linked on that same site:
https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/01/november-3-december-23-all-the-presidents-teams/
I think you're right. The still small voice. In the midst of all this madness: there's no 'emergency'. We've dealt with worse than this before without a fraction of this madness.
There's no medical emergency.
There's a social catastrophe.
From the first day, I saw that this is a fraud. Not being a TV watcher, it was a few days before I read anything about the fakeout, but there were clues already in the behavior of people around here. Toilet paper disappeared from stores, just as that was predicted to happen ( but didn't) during the '09 swine flu "epidemic".
TV addicts were already starting to show up in stores wearing dust masks and dishwashing gloves, though they were a tiny fraction of the shoppers. Libtards that I knew started bumping elbows with each other instead of shaking hands or hugging.
Once I found info online to read, I saw that the official story was ludicrous, and most of the columnists that I usually read pointed out the absurdities of the official narrative. Jon Rappaport wrote a piece demanding proof of the existence of the "virus" and from that day, none has ever been presented.
It's an imaginary plague and the "vaccines" are bioweapons. I'm going to unsub from this stack because the author buys the whole covid myth and that skews his conclusions. Another stack that I like is https://donaldjeffries.substack.com/
We know that now. Didn't seem that way 18 months ago. Don't be swayed by hindsight.
David Watson: YES.
I would vote for Trump again, but that doesn’t mean I’d take medical advice from him. None of these people know what they are talking about, the difference is Democrats mandate you agree with their unscientific bs (like biological men being the first female anything), while Trump and Republicans will say their thoughts then let people make up their own darn minds.
Nice! Much better than my reply…
Quoting Trump as to the efficacy of the jab is useless. He isn’t a doctor. He isn’t scouring databases to find data that proves(or disproves) his statement. He is getting information from the same people who are pushing the jab now. He also is pretty arrogant and proud that the jab was developed under his administration in far less time than it was estimated by the so-called experts so he sees that as a win and it is only a win if the jab works. Maybe he is unaware(or was at the time of his statement) that ‘vaccinated’ people do wind up in the hospital and they do die. Or maybe he is ignoring the truth because he wants to be included in the praise for the jab. He got Covid and was given a cocktail of drugs that had him back up and around in a few days. Probably a similar cocktail to what Joe Rogan used. That cocktail should have been widely available to everyone world wide after it was proven effective on an obese man in his mid 70’s(you know, the group most likely to be seriously ill or die from the bug)…
Yet, he's still shilling for the CLOT SHOTS.
Trump single-handedly gave use the killing machines (jabs). It is appropriate to quote him.
Scooter, don’t be ridiculous. He didn’t do it single-handedly. I agree with you that he should shut up about it other than to say it should be freedom of choice. He’s too arrogant to do so. I didn’t vote for him as a moral compass. I voted for him to be CEO of USA. He was the best one in my lifetime with only Reagan a distant second.
Trump gave us the jab, single-handedly. He also single-handedly gave us perpetual Obamacare, by making illegal subsidy payments for two years (DYOD). He did lots single-handedly that served to destroy our rights and freedoms and liberty. Oh, he also single-handedly banned inert gun stocks (again, unlawfully), which paved the way for O'Biden to single-handedly impose equally unlawful mandates.
he was the 'ceo' of the operation. something of that magnitude has never been done single-handedly. he put the right people in place to make the right decisions for what was a noble cause. the jab has been bastardized and monetized beyond belief and no one can single-handedly reverse the direction we are headed(to hell in a handbasket) but the current administration is on board with 'the religion of the jab' cult. they will push it until it pops out of the backs of our skulls...
Trump also single-handedly brought LGBTQ into the RNC and just last week hosted the LCR "gala" at Mar-a-Largo to celebrate "gay pride". Trump does a lot single-handedly he doesn't get credit for.
Again, he spearheaded that(I didn’t know or really care). He lead it. That is what leaders do. I can single-handedly do things around the house but no one can do anything single-handedly to change things on a global scale. The people who get the credit organize and recruit others to do that.
My bad, I forgot that with Trump, "The buck stops with everybody."
https://theweek.com/speedreads/816895/president-trump-buck-stops-everybody
I have a few words to say because as a hospitalist and residency trainer I am turning blue educating the educated. Fuc* them and hooray to Alex!
I read it. My head is spinning. So as I recall, Geert said in last interview that these numbers will flip. I have seen his projections. It is based on age groups. Vaccinated vs unvaccinated. In short, the unvaccinated was the most in peril, but that trend is reversing and thus by January the vaccinated will be the most in peril. It is because the vaccinated have compromised immune systems from vaccines. Their immune system are slowly degrading. The boosters will make things much worse. The worst part of this is that kids were never in peril, and now we have compromised their immune systems and they have a long life ahead with potential immune disease, or worse death.
The unvaccinated is like the control group. Probably many have acquired immunity by now. Many that took the vaccine probably had virus, never knew it, or knew it and believed more is better meaning vaccines would add more protection.
I am on page 80 of Fauci book. It is so depressing I can only read a few pages at a time without sobbing. 😟
Is that the one by Kennedy?
THank you for this Mr. Berenson. THis type of post/ article is why I pre ordered your book and subscribed. The short updates are great. But clearly you have are a deep capable thinker and you care about this subject. Im grateful to you for your dedication and hard work. Maybe all cause mortality is up because of other underlying problems that were ignored during the worst of the pandemic like cancer, heart issues etc. People delayed and postponed getting routine screenings and other care. So maybe this is all catching up with us now. That could be the explanation. Or is it some delayed effect of the vaccines? I hope you stay on this subject. If the excess deaths are from secondary effects of imposed covid policies well this discredits all the covid policies. If the deaths are from vax delayed effects well then lets start criminal proceedings against those responsible. Either way it doesnt look good for the gov health establishments. This could be another full length book for you... thank you
What stunned me in this article was the part about vaccinating hospice patients. What the hell? What would be the point of that even IF the shots worked? The person is close to death. Why subject them to any unnecessary medical treatments? The medical establishment is certifiably insane.
Death is a no go area for most people. Somehow quantity of life is more important than quality of life (not to appear insensitive but death is a part of life and IMHO honouring a patient’s wishes and guiding them/being with them in their final days is far more important than taking out the big syringe)
Death is no longer a foregone conclusion. Watch the growing research in aging to see our future. We're all going to live forever, if we're smart enough. No one alive today needs to die.
In your dreams 🙄 good god-- how AI/controlling can you be.
If we are smart enough" LOL!!!! what about this shitshow we are living in makes you think we are-- and what IS smart enough.
Some are smarter than others, apparently.
I like Aubrey de Grey and Sergey Young (+ Peter Diamandis, Ray Kurzweil are interesting - a few too many pills for my taste though). Now that Moderna has lots of cash maybe it’ll come up with an experimental treatment. Get your jab and live forever!
David Sinclair is making good progress. Whether the solutions require chemicals remains to be seen. They have working theories for significant extensions that are working well on mice. Testing those theories on longer lived subjects, like people, takes a lot longer.
Ah yes, I like David Sinclair too and interesting, I should explore the area more. I’m a bit of a purist who, perhaps foolishly, generally sticks to the basics (food, exercise, sleep, mental outlook etc) and believes the body has a greater intelligence (and strives for balance which is why I always worry about taking X or Y since I don’t understand the balancing mechanisms and consequences however low risk)
Sinclair tells a story of his dentist saying a procedure would be recommended if he was you get, but unnecessary at his age. He said he wants it anyway, he'll need it later. Success in life extension requires that we remain healthy. Think healthspan, not lifespan. With current tech, some chemicals are necessary.
The biggest problem now is aging is not officially a disease, so it's hard to get funding. That seems likely to change soon. Meanwhile, DeGray and others rely on private funds.
This is beyond the pale. Vaccinate a hospice patient? Let’s pretend that these things did work. You’d want to be the family that insists on a shot for the dying when someone with a whole life ahead of them couldn’t get one? That would be the new definition of insanity.
Africa canceled orders from Pfizer and JNJ on 11-24
Africa is only 6% vaccinated, and covid has practically disappeared
https://newstarget.com/2021-11-22-africa-6percent-vaccinated-covid-disappeared-scientists-baffled.html
BOOOOOM... new variant
If we can reduce the worlds population from 7 billion to 1 billion I think all of these lockdowns will go away. Be patient friends.
500 million would be better. We could even Build Back Better even better, too.
For those waiting for a safe attenuated live virus vaccine, it may be here. Omicron, developed in Southern Africa and brought to you by Delta.... and United, Lufthansa and so on.
Since we are talking about their constant BS. I just watched "This Week with George Stephanopolis" were they just said that in San Francisco more people died of fentenyl than covid last year. So what is the real pandemic? In case you don't know this is Nancy Pelosi's district and San Fransisco is like LA with all the lockdowns etc. I wonder if all those fentenyl addicted people on the streets are vaccinated and have to show proof of vaccination to OD on the streets?
I appreciate this expanded analysis and am also worried about this. When I try to bring this up with friends/family they always say "that's because people put off preventative screenings/procedures". I concede, that might be some of it. How do I rebutt that claim?
Everyone put off preventative screenings and procedures, not just those who were vaccinated.
Nobody put them off. They were put off for us.
I don't engage in preventative screenings and procedures. I "decline" them, to use the official jargon. They've only ever been either useless or else positively harmful to my health and well-being. I don't have any precious blood to waste on useless blood tests, either.
I believe lives were actually saved from skipping the "unnecessary" ,sometime dangerously invasive screenings. Remember,the US medical system is the direct cause of 225,000 annual deaths ,and over 1,000,000 injuries each year. 3rd leading cause of death !! So yes, more people may have been saved by avoiding the system then died from avoiding the system.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html
All the more reason to stop the vax mania and let the data come in. Erring on the side of caution.
They are coming for the infants. Your critics have no choice but to lose their minds at the horror.
The "fact check" complaint about the unvaccinated group skewing toward younger ages with expected lower death rates has an immediate problem.
The unvaccinated rate of deaths from all causes had been gradually declining since the end of January (off the chart to the left).
The UK did not start tracking the corresponding vaccinated death rate until March 19. But when they did start, the vaccinated death rate from all causes for ages 10-59 was lower than the unvaccinated death rate (see the beginning date on the chart).
Then suddenly the vaccinated death rate started going up dramatically at the beginning of April (with no change in the unvaccinated downward trend).
This rise in the vaccinated death rate cannot reasonably be explained by how many teenagers were being vaccinated. There must be some other reason.
A new steady-state has apparently emerged where the vaccinated are dying substantially faster than the unvaccinated. The question is why?
One help would be for these statistics to start being kept for 10-, 5- and 1-year age intervals, so we could tell what age group(s) were driving this phenomenon -- kept in more countries than the UK.
Thank God for Mr. Berenson and a few others courageous enough to tell the truth. This is no different than Galileo getting hauled up in front of the court for saying the earth revolves around the sun. Or maybe a better analogy is the witches of Salem, just mass hysteria run amok.
Anecdotally I see more and more older people ending up in the hospital and no it's not ones that hid inside for two years and skipped doctor appointments, it's active elderly that we're living their lives normally but still got the shot because of demanding family members and now they have bleeding ulcers and pancreatic disorders or kidney problems.
Alex has written a lot of great data analysis during the pandemic, but this is one of the best for sure. The dimwitted fact checkers who just blindly followed the scripts given to them by their masters were pretty pleased with themselves last week when they "indisputably" proved that the data didn't show what it appeared to show. In other words, believe me not your lying eyes. You could almost hear the sound of a mic drop. I had to pause for a moment when I saw that counter analysis, but even before reading what Alex wrote today, I could see that the reasons the so-called fact checkers were giving for the data appearing as it did were mathematically implausible.
What Alex is done today is identify another key issue that has been nagging at me throughout the pandemic. The expert opinions that are being bandied about by the low IQ fact checkers come from people who are probably actual experts in their extremely narrow specialties. One of the big problems we have right now is this move toward ultra reductionism in the biomedical sciences. It's a very interesting phenomenon after a strong push over the past couple of decades to move toward a more holistic, systems-based view of physiology.
It's a perfect example of reductionism, when the people doing the analysis are either unwilling or unable to understand two points of data in relation to each other and can only assess the data in isolation from all other data. As Alex astutely points out, both of the criticisms of the graphs that he presented are factually true in isolation but do not stand up to a more systemic analysis. (See how I did that with the use of the word systemic in the correct context?)
Alex, is there any statistical data that shows how Ivermectin or Hydrochloric win improve a response to covid-19 versus not using those Therapies
He doesn't appear to accept Ivermectin as a legit therapeutic. I think it is but Big Pharma is not going to allow (they buy influence) any legit testing because they can't make massive amounts of $$ from Ivermectin.
I'm surprised that he doesn't believe in it because there is enough anecdotal evidence to support that it is effective but what we need are real studies and I doubt the real studies will be permitted through the mainstream institutions
There is a lot anti push back so he probably doesn't want to mention it without good test data. At correct dose there is no risk. I have it and I use it.
That would be interesting indeed...there needs to be more pish on therapeutics and how they impact covid-19 response. Untold Truths 5: Therapeutics....????
Push 🤦🤦
There was that recent abstract where a doctor was monitoring his patients heart vitals, both before and after vaccination, and noticed the vaccine's effect on inflammatory markers.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712
I'm wondering how many clinical trials currently in process for other conditions have been impacted by the vaccine. Are they keep tracking of who gets vaccinated as a possible confounder? We may be able get some decent statistics out of closely monitored groups for certain trials, using the "pre-vaccine" cohort of the same people as the control group. But only, I guess, if it's creating issues in the studies and if those running the studies are brave enough to report the results.
This is an excellent link-- I read this earlier this week. When the AHA says this people need to listen.
Clinical trial work has not been impacted at all by vaccination, but it has been hugely impacted by the pandemic and associated lockdowns. There have been trials delayed, suspended, recruitment suspended, changes to procedures because patients were unable or unwilling to come for visits. Lockdown ideology is the biggest self-inflicted catastrophe in centuries.
Almost all trials record all concomitant medications, which would include any covid vaccines.
I am far from a vaccine fanatic, and in fact that is WHY I objected to the conclusion drawn based on the data in last week’s post. The situation is SERIOUS if indeed vaccinated people are dying at higher rates. This means allegations are likely to be completely discounted unless the data is unassailable. Providing data that is easy to invalidate and discredit means people are going to be even more likely to tune it out in future.
As acknowledged, the broad age range of 10-59 is enough to account for the entire disparity. The youngest are both least likely to die from all causes and least likely to be vaccinated--that is just too big a confounder to make meaningful inferences with unadjusted population-level data. No vaccine for a virus with an average 0.23% IFR is powerful enough to overcome a 50-year age advantage in terms of all-cause mortality. If the rates of vaccination were identical at all ages, it would tell us something. Otherwise, it simply can't.
The things I need to see to feel confident about a signal: vaxx vs unvaxx status (ensuring those with just one dose and those not past the 14-day window are not lumped into the unvaxxed category), stratified by age, compared not only to 2020 mortality but the 5-year rolling average (or longer). Also, we cannot randomly compare months, e.g. May versus September without also accounting for normal seasonal variation.
That's when people have a hard time explaining it away. We can't make it easy for them.
It was a mistake to post the original chart if it could be shot down so easily. Worse than doing nothing. And a 3000 word follow up that doesn’t justify the original post doesn’t help. Mistake
I agree with you that these data are inherently flawed, but I do think that an attempt was made to account for the differences in age in the vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations in the report of the underlying dataset. Quote from the linked report:
Because vaccinations were being offered according to priority groups set out by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), the characteristics of the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are changing over time. To account for differences in population size and age structure of the vaccination status groups over time, we calculated age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19).
Granted, it's not clear from Berenson's chart how the mortality rate was calculated. I think the y-axis was not labeled.
Thanks for this, Olivia. I did look at the source report/data but for some reason did not read the above quoted section.
However, it looks like they calculated ASMRs for covid deaths ONLY. Still an issue if we want to discuss all-cause mortality.
But helpful—I will give it some more thought.
There are too many moving parts given age differences in each group, health differences in each group, greater push to vaccinate the elderly and sick early on, the delta variant being more contagious etc…. It’s close to impossible to control for all this.
All we really need is an explanation for the rise in all cause deaths of vaccinated people by age group.
If the explanation makes sense, there is no issue. If it is increased heart attacks, strokes etc..then there’s a problem.
Team reality here. I now treat the Covid nazis how I treat my children when I want to teach them a lesson. As they’re about to do something stupid (like touch a hot stove or get their 8th booster) I just stay silent and smile in my head watching the ensuing train wreck. The only difference is that my children are smarter than these folks and learn their lesson the first time. Maybe after booster number 20, heart attacks #2, or death, they’ll realize that the “vaccines” don’t work unless you own stock in Pfizer, Moderna, etc…
I understand and really appreciate your response. I agree and look at it slightly different. If we want our freedoms to do what we feel is right for us-- we need to let these people do what they feel is right for them--even if it means death, chronic disease etc.
“The most dangerous of all falsehoods is a slightly distorted truth.”
― Georg Christoph Lichtenberg, The Waste Books
It’s beyond slighted
Days before Omicron was announced S. Africa halted their vaccine orders from Pfizer due to lack of interest by its citizens.
Suddenly there’s a new variant originating from the region and travel is banned.
More punishment for “the unvaccinated”?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-24/s-africa-wants-j-j-pfizer-vaccine-delivery-delay-news24-says
Well done Alex. However, you should have had a pic of Kardashian's ass this time around to make more people at least glance at the article. Bait and switch!
Nothing is truer today....
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein.
Maybe why we should have smaller tribes, companies, towns, countries
As many of us have known for a long time: the vaccines are neither safe or effective.