Pharma finished recapturing the Food & Drug Administration as the FDA okayed Moderna's mRNA flu jab, which Moderna's OWN studies show causes 270 severe side effects to stop ONE flu hospitalization
The FLU JAB as a whole is a joke. Old. New. It's never worked, yet still it exists. I get that people SHOULD be able to trust the healthcare system and federal regulators, but at some point, you gotta become an adult. Continuing to believe in Santa Claus is eventually your fault, not theirs.
it is actually great fun - when called an anti-vaxxer, to pull up the CDC vaxx recommendations for adults and quiz them one by one to see if they themselves are up to date.
At least educate your daughter and anyone else who will listen that the increase in measles is not unvaccinated children rather unvaccinated illegals pouring across the border. See Alex's column from April 19th.
Just an FYI, there's no longer a "tetanus" shot in the U.S. It only comes in the Tdap which includes both diphtheria and acellular pertussis, or Td which contains tetanus and diphtheria.
Oh my gosh, sounds like my daughter! How did this happen? I raised her and we were so aligned and she went to college, got a Smartphone and social media and became an AWFL.
Same. I won't even get my tetanus boosters any more. Our immune systems have gotten us through a billion years of disease and parasites, and it's becoming apparent that the true objective of big pharma is to weaken natural immunity with their snake oil.
I have never taken a single flu shot and never will. I'm 62....their target demographic. Not taking the shingles vaxx. Not taking the pnuemococcal pneumonia jab. Never took the COVID...how did I ever survive????
I'm also in my 60s. I got the flu shot once because my granddaughter was 6 months old and since she hadn't had all her shots yet my daughter was afraid I would make the baby sick. Six weeks later I ended up with the flu and double ear infections so bad that I lost my hearing for about a month. That was the first and last time for me.
Shingles is a break through of herpes left over from a chicken pox infection in childhood. It's a function of immunity. The only people I know personally who developed shingles were not healthy...both were alcoholics. Recrudescence of herpes virus is brought on by physical or other stressors. We see the same thing in cats--herpes in cats are upper respiratory infection....and often come back during stress.
Shingles is the only vaccine I think everybody should get. My grandmother got shingles at 78 and my father in law at 95. They were both very active. Lived alone, drove. My grandmother played golf every week without a cart. Ran up and down the three levels of her house. Took on Coscto like a champ. She said it was the worst pain she had ever had and she had a radical mastectomy in 1961 and an obstructed bowel in 1972. She never recovered her strength after shingles. She was a shell and died two years later. The nerve pain never went away. My father-in-law got it during the pandemic. He was in Hawaii and suffered terribly. We took the COVID shot so we could go care for him as he was alone and even though I wrote to the governor for an exception we were denied. His friends were afraid to see him because of COVID. He suffered terrible pain. Tried CBD, opioids. Not gabapentin because I knew that was useless junk medicine. He never regained his strength. Spent the last two and half years trying to find a comfortable position on the couch. Never drove or cooked or worked in his yard again. Only left the house to see the doctor. Before that he went to his local coffee shop every morning with friends. He grew and sold orchids. Grew vegetables and ti leaves for the whole neighborhood. Made birdhouses. Did his own shopping and cooking. Kept an immaculate house. Hung his laundry out to dry. Ironed his shirts and showered twice a day. I would not wish shingles on anyone, but especially an elderly person. I knew a couple of men who got it in the 80s during the AIDS epidemic but they were younger and also dealing with AIDS. But elderly people have a hard time coming back from it.
I feel for you, but think about what you wrote....one person got shingles at 78 and the other at 95.........now it's time to make you mad......those are ADVANCED ages.....they were going to get something eventually. I know that sounds harsh, but it's basic biology....and you don't KNOW for a fact that the vaccine would have prevented it because you don't know WHY they got it. Shingles is NOT an infection you catch....it's a recrudescence of a virus you are ALREADY infected with. Adding MORE immunogenic material to stop a recrudescence does not make sense. It can also CAUSE shingles...read the package insert. At 78 and 95 there is a high likelihood that something else was also going on in these individuals. I am not trying to minimize it, I'm just saying at those ages, it's not uncommon to have multiple health issues going on, which brings out the herpes virus. 'He never regained his strength' well yeah, he was 95 to begin with......I mean, I know it sounds rough, but HE WAS 95 TO BEGIN WITH. No, he shouldn't have to suffer and die that way, but a vaccine isn't going to make him live forever either.
Dr. Mary Talley Bowden suspects that RFK would have been fired if he torpedoed this poison and chose not to out of loyalty to the Autism moms. Makes sense. 😬
Politics is full of dirty backroom deals, and no one gets everything they wanted. I'd say it got the SAVE Act enough Congressional votes to put it over the top, if I had to guess.
It makes absolutely no sense, but when you have regulatory capture, this is one of the consequences. Of course when you have a centralized bureaucracy that is given the government imprimatur of honesty and reliability, it demonstrates the perils of an immense government.
I haven't had a flu shot in over 20 years and shock! I've haven't had the flu in 20 years. When my local grocery store will give you a free gas discount to get one that tells me all I need to know.
Sadly, I think it the only way this "did you get your flu shot?" nonsense will ever go away is for the generations that were conditioned that you JUST had to get one die off...which will rarely be from the flu.
Well we all KNOW the type of person who will gladly have this gene therapy medication injected into them. Just can't FIX stupid. Pretty sure Howard Stern is giddy on this news, and can't wait to be injected with the safe and effective gene therapy since he follows the science!
I have been regularly receiving the seasonal flu vaccine on the theory that there was minimal downside risk. Traditional recombinant and inactivated platforms have well known (low) risk profiles. They may not be terribly effective, but to the extent they do anything positive there is little risk with them even if they don't.
Now that they are pushing mRNA flu shots, I have to reconsider. Frankly, even if they tell me that they are not putting mRNA into my arms and show me the bottle, I'm not sure I would trust even that. If the FDA can approve this shot, this calls into question all of their other approvals even for long term traditional shots.
I was damaged by the COVID mRNA shot as was my mother (Myocarditis for me, Supra Ventricular Tachycardia for her). I will never allow another mRNA into my body and now that the FDA seems to be completely compromised, I'm not sure I can trust anything they say at all.
Now that you have begun to question the system, ptmcdonald, it is time to read the excellent book, Vaccines, Amen by Aaron Siri. It is a very good history lesson as well as lesson in how this industry has worked for many decades. You are on the right path.
It is an excellent book but I am reading it about 5 pages at a time because I get so angry. At least some basics I had understood previously. But there are many who don’t know any of it and don’t want to.
I feel the exact same way about the book, Elizabeth! I have to do the same and am not finished with it yet. It’s an important history lesson for everyone, I agree!
I took the traditional recombinant and inactivated platforms for 40 plus years as it was required to work in a hospital nursery. Essentially no adverse effect. I've observed scores of nursing students receive the above for 40 plus years w/o adverse effects. But we draw the line at an MRNa injection, hard stop.
Institutional trust is in the toilet. I’m GenX, we grew up with the idea that American institutions are honorable and venerable and run by an academic meritocracy.
All that trust is gone.
Agree - won’t let any mRNA b.s. near me or my family.
I wonder how much of our American institutional trust is gone for good vs how much is salvageable ? Betrayal.
The institutions exist to support themselves, not the American people. To say it’s tragic doesn’t even touch the emotion this hits on.
The flu jab has always been a shot in the dark! And now they want us to “ trust the science “ again? I got the flu shot once and only once. How’d it work? I got the worst case of the flu ever! So will I EVER get this new one ? When pigs fly! In fact I’ve sadly lost all faith in big pharma and medicine!
PBM’s need to be destroyed. At best it’s a middleman taking a cut of a prescription. What they really are is a buerocrat who is making decisions on your healthcare. It’s maddening the power they have on medications. Needing to get a prior authorization for a drug your doctor prescribes is a joke. You could be taking a medication for years and they still require you get an authorization from said Dr. every six months. All it’s doing is creating a block or delay to get a medication. Should they deny it then you pay out of pocket. Remember these people have zero education in healthcare. They don’t know why you take the medication and equally don’t care. It’s all a numbers game for a middleman in the industry.
So tell us why they approved it and yet you clearly explained why they should not have approved it. I saw too many patients with Guillain-Barré syndrome from old shots that I won't even consider any flu vaccine. Healthy middle-aged people with trachs and feeding tubes. Most eventually recovered but not all. Tragic.
How can they (FDA regulators) understand mRNA when they could not even understand Vioxx?
mRNA is best suited to treatments and not a new frontier in "vaccinations". The reality is that (Moderna, Pfizer and others) are looking for ways to monetize their mRNA assets after the collapse of COVID shot sales.
I think the approval probably has a lot to do with the fact that Cassidy remains in office until January 2027. They need all the yes votes they can get and this approval assures a yes from him.
Not to mention that big pharma itself has no liability for vaccines but it did for something like Vioxx. They would do Vioxx over if presented with the choice because they still made money net net. So of course they will keep ginning out the vaccines. The vaccine liability shield is a huge problem.
The FLU JAB as a whole is a joke. Old. New. It's never worked, yet still it exists. I get that people SHOULD be able to trust the healthcare system and federal regulators, but at some point, you gotta become an adult. Continuing to believe in Santa Claus is eventually your fault, not theirs.
Terry, literally could not have said it better. I literally wrote a piece yesterday on common sense and common knowledge.
People should trust the system, but after years and years, people have to become an adult and take matters into their own hands.
Literally echoing your words: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/bring-back-common-knowledge
But the flu shots was considered harmless. A de facto placebo. This may change that.
Make sure you encourage all the democrats you know to keep current on their vaccines.
it is actually great fun - when called an anti-vaxxer, to pull up the CDC vaxx recommendations for adults and quiz them one by one to see if they themselves are up to date.
My unhinged liberal daughter hates RFK and thinks it's his fault measles is on the rise; he's killing kids, etc.
The Covid debacle made me hesitant to even get a tetanus shot.
And, I have lost all belief in anything to do with government and politicians.
I just had to comment before I even read the whole article.
There, I feel better now.
As Ronald Reagan said, the nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
At least educate your daughter and anyone else who will listen that the increase in measles is not unvaccinated children rather unvaccinated illegals pouring across the border. See Alex's column from April 19th.
we need to support ICE to stop the spread of measles!
Just an FYI, there's no longer a "tetanus" shot in the U.S. It only comes in the Tdap which includes both diphtheria and acellular pertussis, or Td which contains tetanus and diphtheria.
Oh my gosh, sounds like my daughter! How did this happen? I raised her and we were so aligned and she went to college, got a Smartphone and social media and became an AWFL.
Same. I won't even get my tetanus boosters any more. Our immune systems have gotten us through a billion years of disease and parasites, and it's becoming apparent that the true objective of big pharma is to weaken natural immunity with their snake oil.
I have never taken a single flu shot and never will. I'm 62....their target demographic. Not taking the shingles vaxx. Not taking the pnuemococcal pneumonia jab. Never took the COVID...how did I ever survive????
I'm also in my 60s. I got the flu shot once because my granddaughter was 6 months old and since she hadn't had all her shots yet my daughter was afraid I would make the baby sick. Six weeks later I ended up with the flu and double ear infections so bad that I lost my hearing for about a month. That was the first and last time for me.
I took the shingles shot because I talked to too many people who got shingles. And really suffered.
Choose your poison and punishment
Shingles is a break through of herpes left over from a chicken pox infection in childhood. It's a function of immunity. The only people I know personally who developed shingles were not healthy...both were alcoholics. Recrudescence of herpes virus is brought on by physical or other stressors. We see the same thing in cats--herpes in cats are upper respiratory infection....and often come back during stress.
Is there a shot to eliminate "stress" and prevent stress-induced Shingles? Or, are we stuck with Shingrix to prevent recurrent Herpes Zoster?
There is no 'shot'.....you change your lifestyle. Get more sunlight and exercise and eat better....simple.
Shingles is the only vaccine I think everybody should get. My grandmother got shingles at 78 and my father in law at 95. They were both very active. Lived alone, drove. My grandmother played golf every week without a cart. Ran up and down the three levels of her house. Took on Coscto like a champ. She said it was the worst pain she had ever had and she had a radical mastectomy in 1961 and an obstructed bowel in 1972. She never recovered her strength after shingles. She was a shell and died two years later. The nerve pain never went away. My father-in-law got it during the pandemic. He was in Hawaii and suffered terribly. We took the COVID shot so we could go care for him as he was alone and even though I wrote to the governor for an exception we were denied. His friends were afraid to see him because of COVID. He suffered terrible pain. Tried CBD, opioids. Not gabapentin because I knew that was useless junk medicine. He never regained his strength. Spent the last two and half years trying to find a comfortable position on the couch. Never drove or cooked or worked in his yard again. Only left the house to see the doctor. Before that he went to his local coffee shop every morning with friends. He grew and sold orchids. Grew vegetables and ti leaves for the whole neighborhood. Made birdhouses. Did his own shopping and cooking. Kept an immaculate house. Hung his laundry out to dry. Ironed his shirts and showered twice a day. I would not wish shingles on anyone, but especially an elderly person. I knew a couple of men who got it in the 80s during the AIDS epidemic but they were younger and also dealing with AIDS. But elderly people have a hard time coming back from it.
I feel for you, but think about what you wrote....one person got shingles at 78 and the other at 95.........now it's time to make you mad......those are ADVANCED ages.....they were going to get something eventually. I know that sounds harsh, but it's basic biology....and you don't KNOW for a fact that the vaccine would have prevented it because you don't know WHY they got it. Shingles is NOT an infection you catch....it's a recrudescence of a virus you are ALREADY infected with. Adding MORE immunogenic material to stop a recrudescence does not make sense. It can also CAUSE shingles...read the package insert. At 78 and 95 there is a high likelihood that something else was also going on in these individuals. I am not trying to minimize it, I'm just saying at those ages, it's not uncommon to have multiple health issues going on, which brings out the herpes virus. 'He never regained his strength' well yeah, he was 95 to begin with......I mean, I know it sounds rough, but HE WAS 95 TO BEGIN WITH. No, he shouldn't have to suffer and die that way, but a vaccine isn't going to make him live forever either.
After watching the COVID vaccine scam unfold, I'll suffer with the shingles.
The only shots I take are poured out of a bottle.
Bahahaha.....I gave that up for the most part...too hard to recover at this age....do love me some tequila tho
I always dodged the flu shot in the USAF. I also dodged the Anthrax "preventative" as well.
We have this super cool and expensive mRNA delivery truck we gotta deliver something.
You nailed it, Jim. This is EXACTLY what this is about. It's all about the vehicle.
They forced out Makary and Prasad. It’s disgusting they continue to approve this garbage. Moderna is complete garbage.
Dr. Mary Talley Bowden suspects that RFK would have been fired if he torpedoed this poison and chose not to out of loyalty to the Autism moms. Makes sense. 😬
Politics is full of dirty backroom deals, and no one gets everything they wanted. I'd say it got the SAVE Act enough Congressional votes to put it over the top, if I had to guess.
It makes absolutely no sense, but when you have regulatory capture, this is one of the consequences. Of course when you have a centralized bureaucracy that is given the government imprimatur of honesty and reliability, it demonstrates the perils of an immense government.
I haven't had a flu shot in over 20 years and shock! I've haven't had the flu in 20 years. When my local grocery store will give you a free gas discount to get one that tells me all I need to know.
Sadly, I think it the only way this "did you get your flu shot?" nonsense will ever go away is for the generations that were conditioned that you JUST had to get one die off...which will rarely be from the flu.
One more vaccine I'm not going to get. No biggie.
Well we all KNOW the type of person who will gladly have this gene therapy medication injected into them. Just can't FIX stupid. Pretty sure Howard Stern is giddy on this news, and can't wait to be injected with the safe and effective gene therapy since he follows the science!
I have been regularly receiving the seasonal flu vaccine on the theory that there was minimal downside risk. Traditional recombinant and inactivated platforms have well known (low) risk profiles. They may not be terribly effective, but to the extent they do anything positive there is little risk with them even if they don't.
Now that they are pushing mRNA flu shots, I have to reconsider. Frankly, even if they tell me that they are not putting mRNA into my arms and show me the bottle, I'm not sure I would trust even that. If the FDA can approve this shot, this calls into question all of their other approvals even for long term traditional shots.
I was damaged by the COVID mRNA shot as was my mother (Myocarditis for me, Supra Ventricular Tachycardia for her). I will never allow another mRNA into my body and now that the FDA seems to be completely compromised, I'm not sure I can trust anything they say at all.
Now that you have begun to question the system, ptmcdonald, it is time to read the excellent book, Vaccines, Amen by Aaron Siri. It is a very good history lesson as well as lesson in how this industry has worked for many decades. You are on the right path.
It is an excellent book but I am reading it about 5 pages at a time because I get so angry. At least some basics I had understood previously. But there are many who don’t know any of it and don’t want to.
I feel the exact same way about the book, Elizabeth! I have to do the same and am not finished with it yet. It’s an important history lesson for everyone, I agree!
I took the traditional recombinant and inactivated platforms for 40 plus years as it was required to work in a hospital nursery. Essentially no adverse effect. I've observed scores of nursing students receive the above for 40 plus years w/o adverse effects. But we draw the line at an MRNa injection, hard stop.
Institutional trust is in the toilet. I’m GenX, we grew up with the idea that American institutions are honorable and venerable and run by an academic meritocracy.
All that trust is gone.
Agree - won’t let any mRNA b.s. near me or my family.
I wonder how much of our American institutional trust is gone for good vs how much is salvageable ? Betrayal.
The institutions exist to support themselves, not the American people. To say it’s tragic doesn’t even touch the emotion this hits on.
The flu jab has always been a shot in the dark! And now they want us to “ trust the science “ again? I got the flu shot once and only once. How’d it work? I got the worst case of the flu ever! So will I EVER get this new one ? When pigs fly! In fact I’ve sadly lost all faith in big pharma and medicine!
Do not take any Flu shots ever.
I concur. Medical professional for 34 years, now retired.
PBM’s need to be destroyed. At best it’s a middleman taking a cut of a prescription. What they really are is a buerocrat who is making decisions on your healthcare. It’s maddening the power they have on medications. Needing to get a prior authorization for a drug your doctor prescribes is a joke. You could be taking a medication for years and they still require you get an authorization from said Dr. every six months. All it’s doing is creating a block or delay to get a medication. Should they deny it then you pay out of pocket. Remember these people have zero education in healthcare. They don’t know why you take the medication and equally don’t care. It’s all a numbers game for a middleman in the industry.
So tell us why they approved it and yet you clearly explained why they should not have approved it. I saw too many patients with Guillain-Barré syndrome from old shots that I won't even consider any flu vaccine. Healthy middle-aged people with trachs and feeding tubes. Most eventually recovered but not all. Tragic.
How can they (FDA regulators) understand mRNA when they could not even understand Vioxx?
mRNA is best suited to treatments and not a new frontier in "vaccinations". The reality is that (Moderna, Pfizer and others) are looking for ways to monetize their mRNA assets after the collapse of COVID shot sales.
I think the approval probably has a lot to do with the fact that Cassidy remains in office until January 2027. They need all the yes votes they can get and this approval assures a yes from him.
Not to mention that big pharma itself has no liability for vaccines but it did for something like Vioxx. They would do Vioxx over if presented with the choice because they still made money net net. So of course they will keep ginning out the vaccines. The vaccine liability shield is a huge problem.