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Terry's avatar

The FLU JAB as a whole is a joke. Old. New. It's never worked, yet still it exists. I get that people SHOULD be able to trust the healthcare system and federal regulators, but at some point, you gotta become an adult. Continuing to believe in Santa Claus is eventually your fault, not theirs.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Terry, literally could not have said it better. I literally wrote a piece yesterday on common sense and common knowledge.

People should trust the system, but after years and years, people have to become an adult and take matters into their own hands.

Literally echoing your words: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/bring-back-common-knowledge

JohnRobi's avatar

Make sure you encourage all the democrats you know to keep current on their vaccines.

Dark Thomas's avatar

it is actually great fun - when called an anti-vaxxer, to pull up the CDC vaxx recommendations for adults and quiz them one by one to see if they themselves are up to date.

Debbie Chilcutt's avatar

My unhinged liberal daughter hates RFK and thinks it's his fault measles is on the rise; he's killing kids, etc.

The Covid debacle made me hesitant to even get a tetanus shot.

And, I have lost all belief in anything to do with government and politicians.

I just had to comment before I even read the whole article.

There, I feel better now.

Some Dude in NC's avatar

As Ronald Reagan said, the nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

Jan's avatar

At least educate your daughter and anyone else who will listen that the increase in measles is not unvaccinated children rather unvaccinated illegals pouring across the border. See Alex's column from April 19th.

Dark Thomas's avatar

we need to support ICE to stop the spread of measles!

Genevieve's avatar

Just an FYI, there's no longer a "tetanus" shot in the U.S. It only comes in the Tdap which includes both diphtheria and acellular pertussis, or Td which contains tetanus and diphtheria.

Dragonmom's avatar

Oh my gosh, sounds like my daughter! How did this happen? I raised her and we were so aligned and she went to college, got a Smartphone and social media and became an AWFL.

Jim Stewart's avatar

We have this super cool and expensive mRNA delivery truck we gotta deliver something.

Cartesearcher's avatar

You nailed it, Jim. This is EXACTLY what this is about. It's all about the vehicle.

Lois Lassiter's avatar

I have never taken a single flu shot and never will. I'm 62....their target demographic. Not taking the shingles vaxx. Not taking the pnuemococcal pneumonia jab. Never took the COVID...how did I ever survive????

Louise C's avatar

I'm also in my 60s. I got the flu shot once because my granddaughter was 6 months old and since she hadn't had all her shots yet my daughter was afraid I would make the baby sick. Six weeks later I ended up with the flu and double ear infections so bad that I lost my hearing for about a month. That was the first and last time for me.

working rich's avatar

I took the shingles shot because I talked to too many people who got shingles. And really suffered.

Choose your poison and punishment

Lois Lassiter's avatar

Shingles is a break through of herpes left over from a chicken pox infection in childhood. It's a function of immunity. The only people I know personally who developed shingles were not healthy...both were alcoholics. Recrudescence of herpes virus is brought on by physical or other stressors. We see the same thing in cats--herpes in cats are upper respiratory infection....and often come back during stress.

Contrarian's avatar

Is there a shot to eliminate "stress" and prevent stress-induced Shingles? Or, are we stuck with Shingrix to prevent recurrent Herpes Zoster?

Dragonmom's avatar

Shingles is the only vaccine I think everybody should get. My grandmother got shingles at 78 and my father in law at 95. They were both very active. Lived alone, drove. My grandmother played golf every week without a cart. Ran up and down the three levels of her house. Took on Coscto like a champ. She said it was the worst pain she had ever had and she had a radical mastectomy in 1961 and an obstructed bowel in 1972. She never recovered her strength after shingles. She was a shell and died two years later. The never pain never went away. My father-in-law got it during the pandemic. He was in Hawaii and suffered terribly. We took the COVID shot so we could go care for him as he was alone and even though I wrote to the governor for an exception we were denied. His friends were afraid to see him because of COVID. He suffered terrible pain. Tried CBD, opioids. Not gabapentin because I knew that was useless junk medicine. He never regained his strength. Spent the last two and half years trying to find a comfortable position on the couch. Never drove or cooked or worked in his yard again. Only left the house to see the doctor. Before that he went to his local coffee shop every morning with friends. He grew and sold orchids. Grew vegetables and ti leaves for the whole neighborhood. Made birdhouses. Did his own shopping and cooking. Kept an immaculate house. Hung his laundry out to dry. Ironed his shirts and showered twice a day. I would not wish shingles on anyone, but especially an elderly person. I knew a couple of men who got it in the 80s during the AIDS epidemic but they were younger and also dealing with AIDS. But elderly people have a hard time coming back from it.

Next To Last of the Mohicans's avatar

The only shots I take are poured out of a bottle.

Lois Lassiter's avatar

Bahahaha.....I gave that up for the most part...too hard to recover at this age....do love me some tequila tho

Dave's avatar

I always dodged the flu shot in the USAF. I also dodged the Anthrax "preventative" as well.

It's True's avatar

It makes absolutely no sense, but when you have regulatory capture, this is one of the consequences. Of course when you have a centralized bureaucracy that is given the government imprimatur of honesty and reliability, it demonstrates the perils of an immense government.

Sportsdoc's avatar

They forced out Makary and Prasad. It’s disgusting they continue to approve this garbage. Moderna is complete garbage.

Alan Davis (FlyoverAlinCT)'s avatar

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden suspects that RFK would have been fired if he torpedoed this poison and chose not to out of loyalty to the Autism moms. Makes sense. 😬

Bob J's avatar

I haven't had a flu shot in over 20 years and shock! I've haven't had the flu in 20 years. When my local grocery store will give you a free gas discount to get one that tells me all I need to know.

Sadly, I think it the only way this "did you get your flu shot?" nonsense will ever go away is for the generations that were conditioned that you JUST had to get one die off...which will rarely be from the flu.

Brogan12's avatar

Well we all KNOW the type of person who will gladly have this gene therapy medication injected into them. Just can't FIX stupid. Pretty sure Howard Stern is giddy on this news, and can't wait to be injected with the safe and effective gene therapy since he follows the science!

Some Dude in NC's avatar

One more vaccine I'm not going to get. No biggie.

ptmcdonald's avatar

I have been regularly receiving the seasonal flu vaccine on the theory that there was minimal downside risk. Traditional recombinant and inactivated platforms have well known (low) risk profiles. They may not be terribly effective, but to the extent they do anything positive there is little risk with them even if they don't.

Now that they are pushing mRNA flu shots, I have to reconsider. Frankly, even if they tell me that they are not putting mRNA into my arms and show me the bottle, I'm not sure I would trust even that. If the FDA can approve this shot, this calls into question all of their other approvals even for long term traditional shots.

I was damaged by the COVID mRNA shot as was my mother (Myocarditis for me, Supra Ventricular Tachycardia for her). I will never allow another mRNA into my body and now that the FDA seems to be completely compromised, I'm not sure I can trust anything they say at all.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Now that you have begun to question the system, ptmcdonald, it is time to read the excellent book, Vaccines, Amen by Aaron Siri. It is a very good history lesson as well as lesson in how this industry has worked for many decades. You are on the right path.

Jan's avatar

I took the traditional recombinant and inactivated platforms for 40 plus years as it was required to work in a hospital nursery. Essentially no adverse effect. I've observed scores of nursing students receive the above for 40 plus years w/o adverse effects. But we draw the line at an MRNa injection, hard stop.

Tina C's avatar

The flu jab has always been a shot in the dark! And now they want us to “ trust the science “ again? I got the flu shot once and only once. How’d it work? I got the worst case of the flu ever! So will I EVER get this new one ? When pigs fly! In fact I’ve sadly lost all faith in big pharma and medicine!

reality speaks's avatar

Do not take any Flu shots ever.

ScarlettHamiltonAustralia's avatar

I concur. Medical professional for 34 years, now retired.

James Schwartz's avatar

PBM’s need to be destroyed. At best it’s a middleman taking a cut of a prescription. What they really are is a buerocrat who is making decisions on your healthcare. It’s maddening the power they have on medications. Needing to get a prior authorization for a drug your doctor prescribes is a joke. You could be taking a medication for years and they still require you get an authorization from said Dr. every six months. All it’s doing is creating a block or delay to get a medication. Should they deny it then you pay out of pocket. Remember these people have zero education in healthcare. They don’t know why you take the medication and equally don’t care. It’s all a numbers game for a middleman in the industry.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

“In a world where Moderna and Blackstone have a direct line to the White House, there was no chance the FDA would say no to this jab once the Trump Administration forced Dr. Vinay Prasad to resign from the agency in March” ——

Ladies and gentlemen this is the true ruling class of America, not the institutions we know and love: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-ruling-class-of-the-united-states

working rich's avatar

So tell us why they approved it and yet you clearly explained why they should not have approved it. I saw too many patients with Guillain-Barré syndrome from old shots that I won't even consider any flu vaccine. Healthy middle-aged people with trachs and feeding tubes. Most eventually recovered but not all. Tragic.