Great piece. One of the sideline effects has been the surfacing of antisemitism, especially in universities and among immigrant groups stupidly allowed in the UK and Europe. Best if your enemies expose themselves; the hands-off for Islamist radicalism is now over (it will probably be the nail in the coffin of the hapless Sunak government in the UK).
-No, that is what Hamas is guilty of, and they even filmed it and posted it so there would be no doubt.
"How are you better than Hamas?"
I don't sacrifice my own women and children (AKA: My Future) to score political points. In the end, dont give a shit if I'm "better" than Hamas. They will be dead and my children will live peacefully in buildings made out of their skulls.
Given the circumstances one is rather hard-pressed to call anything a "silver lining," but I would be quite pleased to see Sunak and his ilk out of government.
Today is the day that AB finally crossed the aisle to Team Obvious.
"the loudest protests have come from the same coterie of Western progressives who have spent the last decade in a snit about climate change, with a brief break for Black Lives Matter."
Next up thoughts on Ukraine....................................................
Yeah I was thinking the same Ryan. I've posted elsewhere on this great "silver lining" so to speak of the Oct 7th terrorist attack. The EXPOSURE of the just WHO backs or supports Hamas, and not truly on the side of the obvious is what it is and being made quite clear. The % of those who were in support of say BLM, DEI, SEL, CRT, ESG, Men getting pregnant belief, Men competing against women belief etc, as well as those same people who believe MASKS work, lockdowns were wise, the un-injected were dangerous and the injections were a good idea or "safe and effective" has GOT to be 90% or more of those who vote BLUE...
Obama not only biggest race hustler of all time, but Israel hater and Iran lover. Obsessed with strengthening Iran (as Biden now is). I do believe the Abraham Accords has kept those countries from jumping in. Thank you President Trump.
Right! The list was non complete. "Fact based" :) Since when did facts and law mean anything other than what the narrative is needed at the time or moment to a Democrat. Dead on with the Saul Alinsky disciple!
I want to make an observation that I made on another substack. The people who have been against covid mandates and all the corona nonsense seem to believe everything Israel says about the attack and the subsequent retaliation. Israel had the most draconian covid mandates and lied outrageously about vaccine side effects. But now the Israeli government seems to be believed unquestioningly. I think we should probably give up posturing on either side, but I am curious why whatever they or the main stream media say at this point is taken, you should forgive the word, as gospel.
I will say my neighbor (a close friend) has family over there (mother, father and siblings) and they are reporting it's worse than the newsfeeds on the ground.
I have met these people. They are kind and honest people. I would be shocked if they were lying.
I have no doubt that things are bad for them. When I see videos of people in Israel being interviewed by sympathetic journalists, life looks not too bad in Israel. Do you have anyone you could listen to about how things are in Gaza or the West Bank? But I don't know, it seems we are getting one side of a story, sort of like covidmania.
One aspect I did find interesting, if not ironic considering the EUA gene therapy medication injection is EXPERIMENTAL was that Israel of all countries was the 1st to make a deal with Pfizer and became one of the most injected countries on the planet. Valid point on assuming and believing what we are told is true or not from panoramic perspective all things considered.
The problem is the radical leftists call the tune and the moderate liberals/Democrats dance out of habit even though they disagree with much of the insanity.
Well they don’t disagree loudly enough. The Liberal/Democrat machine was hijacked by Obama, Hillary and then the “squawking squad”. If Dems want to be taken seriously perhaps they should reclaim the party. Until then Nancy P, Chuck S and the rest of the posers are just another WDC clown show.
On the subject of this essay, maybe there isn’t the overwhelming support that Hamas anticipated (at least not from other Arab countries) there is as usual a deafening silence when it comes to condemnation either.
I thought there was some involvement of Hezbollah in the north but not sure. At the end of the day the big driver here is Iran.
Let’s hope this whole conflict ends quickly but some ppl still need to answer here like the reporters from CNN, MSNBC, the WSJ who were in bunkers with Hamas in Gaza. I think anyone who stirred up violence toward Jews, Israeli supporters or anyone else n America should be charged with hate crimes. If they were Proud Boys members they’d be in jail already.
I am listening to The Last Girl: My Story of Captivity, and My Fight Against the Islamic State. It was on my reading list for years but October 7th made me give this book another look. It is an incredibly disturbing story of what radical Islamic terrorists do to anyone who they view as a non-believer. I pray Israel finishes HAMAs. Sadly, I write this as CCP flags are flying in a cleaned-up San Fransicko to welcome Biden's puppet master to America. The Western world better wake up.
it really boils down to that doesn't it. One must kill someone because they don't agree. That is the essence of HAMAS belief system. CCP flags in America when the Lab created bioweapon was released in Wuhan with ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY, and 95% of the precursor chemicals come from to create Fentanyl to kill how many Americans now? Yet the puppet applauds XI. WTF!
It seems that the Arab "street" is with Trump, not with Biden, feeling that normalization, commerce and peace are superior to ideological religious warfare. The historic Middle East peace agreement, the Abraham Accords, is the greatest threat to Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad, Iran and others of this ilk. Hamas was desperate to undermine this Nobel Peace Prize-worthy accord with Israel.
Anywhere that Palestinians go there is chaos and unrest, and all the other Arab countries know that. This is why no other Arab country will take them in, including neighboring Egypt and Jordan. When King Abdullah of Jordan was asked about taking in refugees, he dropped all diplomatic pretense and language and stated emphatically "No Palestinian refugees in Jordan...that's a red line!" Similarly, Egypt doesn't want them in the Sinai, where they would likely start launching attacks into Israel, thus creating instability in Egypt and endangering the 40 year peace agreement with Israel.
Hamas leaders (comfortably ensconced in luxury Qatar dwellings) have 11 billion dollars. Hamas should be seen as a multi-billion dollar corporation. Most of the foreign aid billions sent to Palestinians was squandered on building tunnels under Gaza City and buying weapons. If Gaza is a shithole, the people can thank Hamas. They voted Hamas into power and they only have themselves to blame for their misery. There hasn't been an election since 2006, so the Hamas leadership isn't exactly democratic. Would the same people vote for Hamas again if given the chance?
It's also worth noting that Hamas doesn't appear to value Palestinian lives any more than they value Israeli lives.
With 2 US carrier battle groups (possibly a 3rd) in place, an unknown contingent of nuke subs (like American Express cards...carrier battle groups don't leave home without them!), and of course, the IDF done licking its wounds, all hands on deck, and on the offense, I think Iran/Hezbollah, and the rest are aware that this is not like "climate change"...if they attack now, it will be truly "existential" for them, and they know it.
“If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.”
I hope you are right. You make a lot of good points. the largest protests are in Europe right now. this is why i agree with Glenn Greenwald. do not muzzle free speech. we need people to tell us who they are.
"Big investors increasingly believe the United States has controlled inflation."
Yeah, so long as you remove energy, food, and housing from the calculation of inflation. And don't count the hundreds of billions of dollars printed and then immediately offloaded to other countries.
On what f'n basis can "big investors" rationally and persuasively think the US has controlled inflation? Have they not spoken to their multi-staff domestic employees about grocery store prices??
Great analysis, from a slightly different angle than I've seen before. I guess I hadn't looked beneath the surface of the rhetoric coming from Islamic capitals to see what they were actually doing (or not doing). One question for you: what do you make of Turkey and its president? He is really talking a good game of demagoguery, and acting like Israel is committing Nazi-like atrocities, when of course that was what Hamas did, and Israel is conducting the most ethical war imaginable. When they invade a hospital to get at the command post underneath they actually bring medical supplies and doctors to try and help the patients. I believe I even heard that they might have life-flighted a few to Tel-Aviv.
Among other things, i think Erdogan is trying to keep a lid on this through his demagoguery. He seems more vulnerable to "the street." It is interesting that the other Arab states are keeping their mouths shut. i think it was Wiki-leaks that showed how they spoke out of both sides of their mouth, (condemning the US in public and encouraging them privately.) i think we have got past that and they are just keeping their mouths shut. I think they liked the way things were going.
I am no Middle East expert, so this is just my theory, but since the start of this conflict I have thought that Arab countries would be perfectly content to have Israel "do the dirty work" (for them) of dealing with/clearing out Hamas. Hence the silence.
neither am I but i think you are right. . i think the progress the last few years, helped a lot by ol wha's his name and the Abraham accords, has shown people a better future. i was pleasantly astounded when a friend from tel Aviv told me he was taking his wife to Abu dubai for vacation back in 2019.
“Israel is conducting the most ethical war imaginable.” This is an absurd statement and it shows how pathetic it is that people feel they need to support one side or another in a war. War isn’t ethical. And killing at least 10x as many people in retaliation isn’t ethical. It isn’t even an example of a proper understanding of justice. It’s just war.
Of course it wasn’t a war crime. The Allies won so they get to set the rules. Also, carpet bombing wasn’t even established as a “war crime” until after WW2. Seriously, though, it is hard to take anyone seriously who tries to justify carpet bombing on moral grounds.
BTW, Israel has not carpet bombed in Gaza. But, in WWII the very strong will of the German people had to be broken. This was how it was done. It wasn’t pretty, but it was necessary. Nazi Germany was evil. The regime had to be crushed.
I had an uncle who with a detachment of the 11th US Army Field Hospital help liberate Dachau. I inherited his photos of the horrors he saw.
As one commenter put it, at least the Nazi’s tried to hide their atrocities, Hamas purposely took video of what they did for all to see. Just as the world was a better place when the Nazi’s were defeated it’ll be a better place when Hamas takes its rightful place in the dustbin of history.
Yup and they send warnings when planning any bombing so that non combatant civilians can evacuate the building(s). I’m sure some Israelis have acted out badly but they have been attacked by these cretins so much that the ppl are fed up.
No side is ever entirely blameless or guilty. There’s dirt in every corner of every society. Nothing justifies the kind of brutality that was unleashed on 10/7.
When I was a member of Congress I visited the Middle East 6 times. I spoke with many political and business leaders of many nations. Not once did anyone raise with me the plight of the Palestinians. They were focused on Iran. The argument for years that we could not solve the Middle East without satisfying the Palestinians was silly. (John Kerry never did understand the Middle East.) Economic considerations that formed the basis for the Abraham Accords will rule the day.
As the old western movies presented fronts to buildings with nothing behind the front, a person has to always look for the story behind the story. As with the vaccine, we slowly but surely uncover the real story instead of what we have been told. Safe and Effective (Now we have sudden and mysterious death of relatively young people. And the CDC now admits to increased incidences of stroke, myocarditis and pericarditis.). Will prevent you from catching Covid. (Even a four year old now know that is bogus) 400,000 died from Covid (They only had an average of 2.4 comorbidities each. Did they die from Covid or their comorbidities). And on and on.
So Alex's point is absolutely on target. Proof of the World's real position on Israel's action is in the pudding (what they are doing) not in their BS (what they are saying). That is the real story behind the bogus front story.
You need to do a piece and have a continuing series on the brainwashing of students around a very simple concept: Marx's "the history of mankind is the struggle between the oppressed and the oppressor". For decades now, universities have been defining Israelis as oppressors. Once defined in that manner, all violence is not only allowed but mandatory. Marx's concept is false, the result of faulty analysis but it has killed millions.
Watching Jeopardy last night, there was a section on Marx. They even prefaced the “answers” with “Karl”….like he was everyone’s great uncle!!! Of course, they had their fill of dei & relative questions too. I’m thinking Wheel of Fortune only from now on.
I'm just astounded at the moral depravity of so many of my Jewish friends and acquaintances who clearly do see Palestinians as subhumans. This blog is a good example. You clearly do not care one whit about the 2 million Palestinians being bombed and displaced, starved, operated on without anesthesia, babies dying in hospitals for lack of fuel, almost all of Gaza's hospitals bombed and shut down, etc. Israel is engaging in intentional genocide in Gaza, that is quite clear at this point. Hamas won when they killed the humanity in Israel and Jews who support Israels actions. Isn't it clear at this point that there is no military solution? https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-running-out-time-un-experts-warn-demanding-ceasefire-prevent-genocide
What was Israel supposed to do? Invite Hamas over to tea? Hamas is 100% to blame for what is going on right now. They kept their own people in unemployment and grinding poverty in spite of receiving millions in aid from the west, Aid that was clearly squandered on building tunnels and weapons of war. If Israel destroys Hamas this will benefit the people of Gaza as much as them.
Tam, the Israelis have offered peace to the Palestinians 4-5 times in the last 80 years. They unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2007. What did Hamas do? They build tunnels and stole the aid that the world gave them. Why? So they could put Israel into the sea. You need to stop watching MSNBC man.
Food and fuel were brought in for the Palestinians. It never got to them because Hamas took it. Hamas tortures and kills Palestinians routinely. A cease fire would only enable Hamas to regroup and attack Israel while Israel isn't engaging them. Hamas purposely builds it's tunnels under hospitals using Palestinians as a shield. The UN should mind their business and stop calling out Israel while defending terrorists.
2-300,000 rally peacefully in DC for Israel. A few hundred pro-Palestinian rally goers create havoc & destroy whatever they put their hands on…who’s the problem????
If anyone needs proof that a lack of common sense and a lack of sense of humor are correlated; look no further than Tammy's comment.
If you really want to put your money where your mouth is, then go to a tall building in Gaza and hold hands with the next victim these savages throw off buildings.
Oh wait, Israel didn't leave any tall buildings.
What response from Israel would be acceptable for you Tammy?
Sorry to be such a disappointment to you, Tam, but I think my fellow Jews and I will choose life over death this time. 😂
You see, my Jewish grandparents and parents survived famine, depressions, world wars, pogroms, pandemics, terrorist attacks, constant antisemitism since the dawn of time, and, of course, the Holocaust.
The Jews who survived are not your grandfather's Jews who marched into the gas chambers. Moral Depravity?? You have no idea....
To quote "The Princess Bride": "You keep using that word; I do not think it means what you think it means"
I can see the meeting in the IDF headquarters now:
-"We are dealing with savages who will sacrifice their own children to score a Pyrrhic victory. In order to secure peace for Israel, our children and the Jewish people we will have to kill 2 million Palestinians and one puppy"
-"Why do we need to kill the puppy!??"
-"You see, I told you no-one would give a shit about the 2 million Palestinians!"
If you were living under daily rocket fire, you would equally have no sympathy for your mortal enemies. Israel includes a million or or more arabs who vote and some of whom serve in the IDF. Why do you think they do that?
While I agree with you at the moral depravity of seeing Palestinians subhuman, you are wrong that there is no military solution. Israel can bomb and kill in the Gaza Strip until full surrender of HAMAS or until everybody is dead. That is what happens when you go to war.
You say babies dying in hospitals for lack of fuel. How about the Israeli mothers, being raped, while listening to their babies being burned alive in ovens…how’s that for tit for tat! You’re maddening.
A great line, "Hamas won when they killed the humanity in Israel and Jews who support Israels actions." Even if I'm not sure I completely agree with it.
"A Pyrrhic victory (/ˈpɪrɪk/ ⓘ PIRR-ik) is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Such a victory negates any true sense of achievement."
Is Iran finally waking up to the fact that most of the world detests 1st century barbarism? Is this the reason Iran has done nothing except pay its proxies in Syria and Iraq to send drones over US Bases and injure our Prescious military personnel, knowing full well that weak WOKE Biden and Austin will bomb some insignificant munitions depots? Iran needs to pay a very stiff price for their actions against US targets and interests in the middle east.
Hamas is here! And the Demss invited them. Listen to today's congressional hearing! "We don't know where they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah was projecting what was to come if ever there was in watching that. The thing is we know which party supports HAMAS for the most part so it's not an unknown
Great piece. One of the sideline effects has been the surfacing of antisemitism, especially in universities and among immigrant groups stupidly allowed in the UK and Europe. Best if your enemies expose themselves; the hands-off for Islamist radicalism is now over (it will probably be the nail in the coffin of the hapless Sunak government in the UK).
Yeah. Exactly.
The world is waking up and understanding the only thing better than a member of Hamas in a dumpster is a member of Hamas in 3 dumpsters.
“….and cousin, business is a-boomin’….“
epic
Wow, just wow. Utter and complete depravity. How are you better than Hamas?
Sacrifice your child to one of these barbarians and then come ask me.
And then pick up a sense of humor.
This age is mostly beyond parody; precisely because of dumbass comments like this.
Troll elsewhere and wear your mask harder.
"Utter and complete depravity."
-No, that is what Hamas is guilty of, and they even filmed it and posted it so there would be no doubt.
"How are you better than Hamas?"
I don't sacrifice my own women and children (AKA: My Future) to score political points. In the end, dont give a shit if I'm "better" than Hamas. They will be dead and my children will live peacefully in buildings made out of their skulls.
Oh, that's right, we're all just a basket of deplorables and, Tam, you and Hillary are better than all of us. Thank you for the reminder.
Lolol
I didn't think that there were liberals allowed here.
Really?!? Is this the same group crying for "freedom of speech"?
There a moral element missing in your comment. You see, Israel was attacked. I know, it’s hard to think about real stuff.
Given the circumstances one is rather hard-pressed to call anything a "silver lining," but I would be quite pleased to see Sunak and his ilk out of government.
Geez i just wrote a reply then read yours. Im going to be awfully redundant. i do hope you and AB are right
let's hope so
HOLY SHIT:
Today is the day that AB finally crossed the aisle to Team Obvious.
"the loudest protests have come from the same coterie of Western progressives who have spent the last decade in a snit about climate change, with a brief break for Black Lives Matter."
Next up thoughts on Ukraine....................................................
Yeah I was thinking the same Ryan. I've posted elsewhere on this great "silver lining" so to speak of the Oct 7th terrorist attack. The EXPOSURE of the just WHO backs or supports Hamas, and not truly on the side of the obvious is what it is and being made quite clear. The % of those who were in support of say BLM, DEI, SEL, CRT, ESG, Men getting pregnant belief, Men competing against women belief etc, as well as those same people who believe MASKS work, lockdowns were wise, the un-injected were dangerous and the injections were a good idea or "safe and effective" has GOT to be 90% or more of those who vote BLUE...
Yeah exactly Brogan.
The only thing you forgot is; does AB realize that if Democrats would stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%?
That's fact based.
I hope he's ready to have THE CONVERSATION soon....ya know....the one that's been incessantly asked for but verboten to broach for over 30 years.
When we gonna have that "conversation" O'bama? Biggest race hustler of all time.
Obama not only biggest race hustler of all time, but Israel hater and Iran lover. Obsessed with strengthening Iran (as Biden now is). I do believe the Abraham Accords has kept those countries from jumping in. Thank you President Trump.
Poor Obama now had to learn to cook .
Ouch🤣
Right! The list was non complete. "Fact based" :) Since when did facts and law mean anything other than what the narrative is needed at the time or moment to a Democrat. Dead on with the Saul Alinsky disciple!
lol. i have a feeling you could spend days and still not have a complete list.
what's funny is it wasn't too long ago I was considered in the "middle". Funny how I haven't changed but the label has.
Now we're far right conspiRACIST.
LOL...so true. I guess I would have been referred to more middle too until the great plandemic and 2020 election cycle set me OFF :)
Same
I want to make an observation that I made on another substack. The people who have been against covid mandates and all the corona nonsense seem to believe everything Israel says about the attack and the subsequent retaliation. Israel had the most draconian covid mandates and lied outrageously about vaccine side effects. But now the Israeli government seems to be believed unquestioningly. I think we should probably give up posturing on either side, but I am curious why whatever they or the main stream media say at this point is taken, you should forgive the word, as gospel.
Past is prologue. That's why.
That said, I understand your skepticism.
I will say my neighbor (a close friend) has family over there (mother, father and siblings) and they are reporting it's worse than the newsfeeds on the ground.
I have met these people. They are kind and honest people. I would be shocked if they were lying.
I have no doubt that things are bad for them. When I see videos of people in Israel being interviewed by sympathetic journalists, life looks not too bad in Israel. Do you have anyone you could listen to about how things are in Gaza or the West Bank? But I don't know, it seems we are getting one side of a story, sort of like covidmania.
I can tell you this much; I hope the violence ends soon. And the US should not provocate further violence.
They'll be fighting over the same strip of land 2k years from now.
Some gods are more violent than others is all I can say and that's why I don't buy into religion.
We're on the same page there.
One aspect I did find interesting, if not ironic considering the EUA gene therapy medication injection is EXPERIMENTAL was that Israel of all countries was the 1st to make a deal with Pfizer and became one of the most injected countries on the planet. Valid point on assuming and believing what we are told is true or not from panoramic perspective all things considered.
Thank you
The problem is the radical leftists call the tune and the moderate liberals/Democrats dance out of habit even though they disagree with much of the insanity.
Well they don’t disagree loudly enough. The Liberal/Democrat machine was hijacked by Obama, Hillary and then the “squawking squad”. If Dems want to be taken seriously perhaps they should reclaim the party. Until then Nancy P, Chuck S and the rest of the posers are just another WDC clown show.
On the subject of this essay, maybe there isn’t the overwhelming support that Hamas anticipated (at least not from other Arab countries) there is as usual a deafening silence when it comes to condemnation either.
I thought there was some involvement of Hezbollah in the north but not sure. At the end of the day the big driver here is Iran.
Let’s hope this whole conflict ends quickly but some ppl still need to answer here like the reporters from CNN, MSNBC, the WSJ who were in bunkers with Hamas in Gaza. I think anyone who stirred up violence toward Jews, Israeli supporters or anyone else n America should be charged with hate crimes. If they were Proud Boys members they’d be in jail already.
Anybody else miss America?
such a hive collective with little independent thought for sure. What an existence to live by
😂
I am listening to The Last Girl: My Story of Captivity, and My Fight Against the Islamic State. It was on my reading list for years but October 7th made me give this book another look. It is an incredibly disturbing story of what radical Islamic terrorists do to anyone who they view as a non-believer. I pray Israel finishes HAMAs. Sadly, I write this as CCP flags are flying in a cleaned-up San Fransicko to welcome Biden's puppet master to America. The Western world better wake up.
it really boils down to that doesn't it. One must kill someone because they don't agree. That is the essence of HAMAS belief system. CCP flags in America when the Lab created bioweapon was released in Wuhan with ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY, and 95% of the precursor chemicals come from to create Fentanyl to kill how many Americans now? Yet the puppet applauds XI. WTF!
It’s infuriating.
It seems that the Arab "street" is with Trump, not with Biden, feeling that normalization, commerce and peace are superior to ideological religious warfare. The historic Middle East peace agreement, the Abraham Accords, is the greatest threat to Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad, Iran and others of this ilk. Hamas was desperate to undermine this Nobel Peace Prize-worthy accord with Israel.
Anywhere that Palestinians go there is chaos and unrest, and all the other Arab countries know that. This is why no other Arab country will take them in, including neighboring Egypt and Jordan. When King Abdullah of Jordan was asked about taking in refugees, he dropped all diplomatic pretense and language and stated emphatically "No Palestinian refugees in Jordan...that's a red line!" Similarly, Egypt doesn't want them in the Sinai, where they would likely start launching attacks into Israel, thus creating instability in Egypt and endangering the 40 year peace agreement with Israel.
Hamas leaders (comfortably ensconced in luxury Qatar dwellings) have 11 billion dollars. Hamas should be seen as a multi-billion dollar corporation. Most of the foreign aid billions sent to Palestinians was squandered on building tunnels under Gaza City and buying weapons. If Gaza is a shithole, the people can thank Hamas. They voted Hamas into power and they only have themselves to blame for their misery. There hasn't been an election since 2006, so the Hamas leadership isn't exactly democratic. Would the same people vote for Hamas again if given the chance?
It's also worth noting that Hamas doesn't appear to value Palestinian lives any more than they value Israeli lives.
BINGO.
So well said.
It seems the only ones rallying to Hamas barbarism is the American and British media and the Hamas Caucus of the US House of Representatives!!!!!!
With 2 US carrier battle groups (possibly a 3rd) in place, an unknown contingent of nuke subs (like American Express cards...carrier battle groups don't leave home without them!), and of course, the IDF done licking its wounds, all hands on deck, and on the offense, I think Iran/Hezbollah, and the rest are aware that this is not like "climate change"...if they attack now, it will be truly "existential" for them, and they know it.
“If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.”
― Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince
I hope you are right. You make a lot of good points. the largest protests are in Europe right now. this is why i agree with Glenn Greenwald. do not muzzle free speech. we need people to tell us who they are.
"Big investors increasingly believe the United States has controlled inflation."
Yeah, so long as you remove energy, food, and housing from the calculation of inflation. And don't count the hundreds of billions of dollars printed and then immediately offloaded to other countries.
On what f'n basis can "big investors" rationally and persuasively think the US has controlled inflation? Have they not spoken to their multi-staff domestic employees about grocery store prices??
Great analysis, from a slightly different angle than I've seen before. I guess I hadn't looked beneath the surface of the rhetoric coming from Islamic capitals to see what they were actually doing (or not doing). One question for you: what do you make of Turkey and its president? He is really talking a good game of demagoguery, and acting like Israel is committing Nazi-like atrocities, when of course that was what Hamas did, and Israel is conducting the most ethical war imaginable. When they invade a hospital to get at the command post underneath they actually bring medical supplies and doctors to try and help the patients. I believe I even heard that they might have life-flighted a few to Tel-Aviv.
Among other things, i think Erdogan is trying to keep a lid on this through his demagoguery. He seems more vulnerable to "the street." It is interesting that the other Arab states are keeping their mouths shut. i think it was Wiki-leaks that showed how they spoke out of both sides of their mouth, (condemning the US in public and encouraging them privately.) i think we have got past that and they are just keeping their mouths shut. I think they liked the way things were going.
I am no Middle East expert, so this is just my theory, but since the start of this conflict I have thought that Arab countries would be perfectly content to have Israel "do the dirty work" (for them) of dealing with/clearing out Hamas. Hence the silence.
neither am I but i think you are right. . i think the progress the last few years, helped a lot by ol wha's his name and the Abraham accords, has shown people a better future. i was pleasantly astounded when a friend from tel Aviv told me he was taking his wife to Abu dubai for vacation back in 2019.
“Israel is conducting the most ethical war imaginable.” This is an absurd statement and it shows how pathetic it is that people feel they need to support one side or another in a war. War isn’t ethical. And killing at least 10x as many people in retaliation isn’t ethical. It isn’t even an example of a proper understanding of justice. It’s just war.
So carpet bombing German cities by the Allies in WWII was a war crime? There was a moral equivalence between the Nazi and the Allies?
Of course it wasn’t a war crime. The Allies won so they get to set the rules. Also, carpet bombing wasn’t even established as a “war crime” until after WW2. Seriously, though, it is hard to take anyone seriously who tries to justify carpet bombing on moral grounds.
BTW, Israel has not carpet bombed in Gaza. But, in WWII the very strong will of the German people had to be broken. This was how it was done. It wasn’t pretty, but it was necessary. Nazi Germany was evil. The regime had to be crushed.
I had an uncle who with a detachment of the 11th US Army Field Hospital help liberate Dachau. I inherited his photos of the horrors he saw.
As one commenter put it, at least the Nazi’s tried to hide their atrocities, Hamas purposely took video of what they did for all to see. Just as the world was a better place when the Nazi’s were defeated it’ll be a better place when Hamas takes its rightful place in the dustbin of history.
Yup and they send warnings when planning any bombing so that non combatant civilians can evacuate the building(s). I’m sure some Israelis have acted out badly but they have been attacked by these cretins so much that the ppl are fed up.
No side is ever entirely blameless or guilty. There’s dirt in every corner of every society. Nothing justifies the kind of brutality that was unleashed on 10/7.
When I was a member of Congress I visited the Middle East 6 times. I spoke with many political and business leaders of many nations. Not once did anyone raise with me the plight of the Palestinians. They were focused on Iran. The argument for years that we could not solve the Middle East without satisfying the Palestinians was silly. (John Kerry never did understand the Middle East.) Economic considerations that formed the basis for the Abraham Accords will rule the day.
As the old western movies presented fronts to buildings with nothing behind the front, a person has to always look for the story behind the story. As with the vaccine, we slowly but surely uncover the real story instead of what we have been told. Safe and Effective (Now we have sudden and mysterious death of relatively young people. And the CDC now admits to increased incidences of stroke, myocarditis and pericarditis.). Will prevent you from catching Covid. (Even a four year old now know that is bogus) 400,000 died from Covid (They only had an average of 2.4 comorbidities each. Did they die from Covid or their comorbidities). And on and on.
So Alex's point is absolutely on target. Proof of the World's real position on Israel's action is in the pudding (what they are doing) not in their BS (what they are saying). That is the real story behind the bogus front story.
You are sounding a bit like, Paul Harvey, "And now you know the rest of the story!"
Thanks for the compliment. Had not thought about Harvey in a long time.
Paul Harvey! we are really in Boomer territory now.
Not me, I’m a war baby, not one of those whippersnapper boomers! ;-)
You need to do a piece and have a continuing series on the brainwashing of students around a very simple concept: Marx's "the history of mankind is the struggle between the oppressed and the oppressor". For decades now, universities have been defining Israelis as oppressors. Once defined in that manner, all violence is not only allowed but mandatory. Marx's concept is false, the result of faulty analysis but it has killed millions.
Watching Jeopardy last night, there was a section on Marx. They even prefaced the “answers” with “Karl”….like he was everyone’s great uncle!!! Of course, they had their fill of dei & relative questions too. I’m thinking Wheel of Fortune only from now on.
I'm just astounded at the moral depravity of so many of my Jewish friends and acquaintances who clearly do see Palestinians as subhumans. This blog is a good example. You clearly do not care one whit about the 2 million Palestinians being bombed and displaced, starved, operated on without anesthesia, babies dying in hospitals for lack of fuel, almost all of Gaza's hospitals bombed and shut down, etc. Israel is engaging in intentional genocide in Gaza, that is quite clear at this point. Hamas won when they killed the humanity in Israel and Jews who support Israels actions. Isn't it clear at this point that there is no military solution? https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-running-out-time-un-experts-warn-demanding-ceasefire-prevent-genocide
What was Israel supposed to do? Invite Hamas over to tea? Hamas is 100% to blame for what is going on right now. They kept their own people in unemployment and grinding poverty in spite of receiving millions in aid from the west, Aid that was clearly squandered on building tunnels and weapons of war. If Israel destroys Hamas this will benefit the people of Gaza as much as them.
Tam, the Israelis have offered peace to the Palestinians 4-5 times in the last 80 years. They unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2007. What did Hamas do? They build tunnels and stole the aid that the world gave them. Why? So they could put Israel into the sea. You need to stop watching MSNBC man.
Food and fuel were brought in for the Palestinians. It never got to them because Hamas took it. Hamas tortures and kills Palestinians routinely. A cease fire would only enable Hamas to regroup and attack Israel while Israel isn't engaging them. Hamas purposely builds it's tunnels under hospitals using Palestinians as a shield. The UN should mind their business and stop calling out Israel while defending terrorists.
Interesting...all of my Jewish friends have NEVER said they want to kill Palestinians. Wonder how so many of yours do
2-300,000 rally peacefully in DC for Israel. A few hundred pro-Palestinian rally goers create havoc & destroy whatever they put their hands on…who’s the problem????
if you ask the MSM the pro Hamas and pro Palestine protests were "mostly peaceful" sound familiar.
If anyone needs proof that a lack of common sense and a lack of sense of humor are correlated; look no further than Tammy's comment.
If you really want to put your money where your mouth is, then go to a tall building in Gaza and hold hands with the next victim these savages throw off buildings.
Oh wait, Israel didn't leave any tall buildings.
What response from Israel would be acceptable for you Tammy?
Sorry to be such a disappointment to you, Tam, but I think my fellow Jews and I will choose life over death this time. 😂
You see, my Jewish grandparents and parents survived famine, depressions, world wars, pogroms, pandemics, terrorist attacks, constant antisemitism since the dawn of time, and, of course, the Holocaust.
The Jews who survived are not your grandfather's Jews who marched into the gas chambers. Moral Depravity?? You have no idea....
To quote "The Princess Bride": "You keep using that word; I do not think it means what you think it means"
I can see the meeting in the IDF headquarters now:
-"We are dealing with savages who will sacrifice their own children to score a Pyrrhic victory. In order to secure peace for Israel, our children and the Jewish people we will have to kill 2 million Palestinians and one puppy"
-"Why do we need to kill the puppy!??"
-"You see, I told you no-one would give a shit about the 2 million Palestinians!"
If you were living under daily rocket fire, you would equally have no sympathy for your mortal enemies. Israel includes a million or or more arabs who vote and some of whom serve in the IDF. Why do you think they do that?
While I agree with you at the moral depravity of seeing Palestinians subhuman, you are wrong that there is no military solution. Israel can bomb and kill in the Gaza Strip until full surrender of HAMAS or until everybody is dead. That is what happens when you go to war.
You say babies dying in hospitals for lack of fuel. How about the Israeli mothers, being raped, while listening to their babies being burned alive in ovens…how’s that for tit for tat! You’re maddening.
A great line, "Hamas won when they killed the humanity in Israel and Jews who support Israels actions." Even if I'm not sure I completely agree with it.
Its known as a Pyrrhic victory.
"A Pyrrhic victory (/ˈpɪrɪk/ ⓘ PIRR-ik) is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Such a victory negates any true sense of achievement."
Is Iran finally waking up to the fact that most of the world detests 1st century barbarism? Is this the reason Iran has done nothing except pay its proxies in Syria and Iraq to send drones over US Bases and injure our Prescious military personnel, knowing full well that weak WOKE Biden and Austin will bomb some insignificant munitions depots? Iran needs to pay a very stiff price for their actions against US targets and interests in the middle east.
Hamas is here! And the Demss invited them. Listen to today's congressional hearing! "We don't know where they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah was projecting what was to come if ever there was in watching that. The thing is we know which party supports HAMAS for the most part so it's not an unknown
Lost me at "Last week, the New York Times......."