“another possibility is that Xi and the Chinese leadership in Beijing are using Covid to clamp down on Shanghai, which is more liberal and Western-facing than the Chinese capital. China has carried out purges of Shanghai officials before, including the city’s chief prosecutor in 2018.”
this is exactly it. Shanghai is more liberal, more educated, wealthy and many have experience more open (at least relatively) societies of the west.
this is being done to ensure obedience. the way jan 6 insurrectionist are kept in prison with no arraignment more than two year later. in the same way USAG Garland labels parents at school board meetings domestic terrorists. in the same way the DOJ and FBI raided Project Veritas over a fucking diary. in the same way medical boards are witch hunting doctors who don’t toe the CDC/NIH line- ‘quick and devastating takes downs’ not only have the effect of silencing those who would oppose you, but also those paying attention.
A longtime friend with family in Shanghai says it is about control. The CCP does not care about its people and never has. Westerners can't fathom the level of cruelty and evil that the Chinese experience from their own government.
I strongly recommend for those having time, the books by Jung Chang: Mao the untold story, and Three Swans. She lived through much of the Mao era before getting out in the 70s. Three Swans is about three generations in her family: her grandmother, mother, and herself. Many appalling things were revealed. One that stuck in my mind was about her father. People worked 6 days a week and had communist indoctrination on the 7th day. Her father was a total believer in communism, following everything to the letter. Then, he was imprisoned and tortured during a purge. That opened their eyes.
She also said that during the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, she put people in only two categories: those who would persecute people to save their own skin, and those who wouldn’t.
Worldwide ideological derangement, seen in societies immersed in hyper-individualistic, socially isolating electronic devices. It's a double whammy of psychologically crippling addiction and social isolation. The old drugs were addicting, but not necessarily socially isolating. The derangement and disruption is coming from collectivists, particularly elites, the ordained middle managers of community development. You can have one-party system run solely by the most liberal of democrats (collectivists), but if the everyday social dynamic is mass entrapment in hyper-individualism and social isolation, you effectively have two polar ideological extremes living side-by-side, one in the political realm, the other in the social realm. The result is ideological derangement in the very forces that hold the power. This is a dangerous situation, not just for China. The drug that's destroying us is addictive personal electronic entertainment devices of all kinds engrossing all ages groups. This is the right-wing (individualistic) nemesis they know exists but refuse to see.
I think that his own people will be afraid, cowed and divided by this. He is readying to attack Taiwan and wants his society adrift and dependent on their bureaucracy. Lets see them prove Xi wrong.
wow, what a weird and sick phenomenon/society.(from an american perspective). I think that any time we think we understand the chinese, and Xi we need to think again.
Michael Osterholm seems like a nut. Listened to him, he wants us masked and force vaxed til 2024. Send him to China? Also Can we just transition / pivot now to doing business with non commy countries like India and Brazil. Singapore, Japan, Maybe Mexico? How about we just stop buying from china ?
I agree, why don’t all those people locked up just leave those apartments they are more of them than those who are guarding them. You’re already a slaved prisoner what could be worse.
At a certain point one has nothing to lose. The key is to get out early. And we are in a long phase of that key moment over here, but many have willingly gone into their cages at the ringing of the bell.
It’s doesn’t work. I’ve tried to reason with my dad who has always been sceptical of government but on this he’s sold 100%. He believes in the vaccines 100% too.
Been doing that for 20 years. It’s not easy. Try buying hockey gear not made in China easier said than done. Everyone should at all cost never ever buy anything made in a communist country.
I heard a sound bite from crazy Tony on the radio yesterday. He was saying that the purpose of lockdowns is to force vaccinations so that when you open up, Poof, no more Covid. He is living in a dystopian parallel universe and is as frightening an authoritarian as you can imagine.
"Also Can we just transition / pivot now to doing business with non commy countries like India and Brazil. Singapore, Japan, Maybe Mexico? How about we just stop buying from china ?" Takes a long time because so many companies foolishly tied up vast sums of their own capital in China.
It’s not just money. It’s essential goods to function on our own. Consider that China owns the raw materials to nearly 100% of the world’s pharmaceuticals. We manufacture the pill or capsule after buying the actual drug from China. What happens is we are in a military conflict in Taiwan, or the South China Sea?
I'm surprised you say he wants us masked, as all I've ever heard from him is that masking doesn't work unless it's N95's. Otherwise I do think he's an alarmist nut, though.
No Prior to August he was a mask advocate. There is one other asshole down in Carlsbad or that area that’s nuts and the dipshit in San Francisco at UCSF as well. When I think of their names I will add them here. These people need to be charged and convicted.
I will forever be puzzled as to why more people everywhere (not just the US) were not more outraged over all these lockdowns and mandates. So few of my friends and family and colleagues were angry about what was happening here during lock down madness or what Canada did to the truckers convoy. Does nothing enrage us anymore that doesn't involve pronouns?
I agree. The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it all is. All the evidence and common sense shows that you can’t stop a virus. You really can’t even slow it down. Everything we did made the pandemic worse than it would have been if we let it run it’s coarse. The only question is whether it was intentional and malicious or incompetence and cowardice. Probably a horrible combo. Either way, the most frightening revelation is that most people went along with it, including doctors and scientists. People were willing to throw away their freedom and everyone else’s because of irrational fear for virus they likely weren’t at risk for. At no point did they start to even ask questions about the nonstop propaganda, the creepy announcements in stores, the stickers on the floor for 6 feet apart, the ridiculous sanitizing for an airborne virus, the refusal to allow medical experts to repurpose drugs for treatment or even allow early treatment, but taking new untested medical treatments and infusions was rational and the right thing to do? Demonizing people and refusing them service for not wearing a useless mask. And that is just a tiny fraction of the foolishness. I will never understand the level of crazy I have witnessed in the last 2+ years.
I'm with you. I'm so glad I've found forums like this. There were so few in my circle that agreed with me that I was beginning to feel like I was the crazy one. I never thought I'd live to see the day that Western democracies would descend into this kind of authoritarianism and that the vast majority would just go along with it. I cannot wrap my head around it. I've lost friends over this, especially the mask bullshit. It's astounding.
It really is. I don’t think they see how crazy it is to end a relationship over a mask. They are true believers. It is sad and scary. I am also grateful for the forums like this. I have had moments where I felt like I was crazy also. Substack has been a blessing.
We have become a country of people who will comply with any show of authority . Example: you move into a new home you worked for years to have. Up shows the Home Owners Association to explain the rules.. what you can plant in your yard,, park in your driveway. . What color you can paint your shutters.. And what forms you must submit to ask permission.. And no one says Hey. No. This is MY house. We do what we're told. Shut up, go along, obey the rules. That's who we are now.. A nation of obedient fools.
Donna - So true! You must be a clairvoyant. We're literally in a showdown with our HOA on the types/colors of rocks we can put around some of our landscaping. Bunch of snobs imo
I'm now convinced that the virus is just an opportunity for the authoritarians among us to expand and strengthen their control. There are just enough submissive, useful idiots to allow this.
People are too busy scrolling facebook and instagram & posting about their little life to take the time to know about what is really going on in the world. That has been my experience anyway in the circles I am a part of.
They're moving in this direction as fast as they can. The evil dwarf is back out on the lockdown, mask, vaccine campaign trail. They can't let a red wave happen.
i’d say in china, you need more than a few. it’s a numbers game. who’s gonna be the one to stick their neck out first? to have your head bashed in like a corgi in the hopes that you’ll inspire others to follow?
What exactly is the goal here of the Chinese authorities? To make people suffer just for the hell of it? To remind the Chinese people how powerless they are? Do they really believe in zero Covid?
Even from the standpoint of a tyrant I have a hard time making sense of this.
I've only a couple theories that make sense: It's a roundabout way of continuing to screw up the supply chain, maybe in response to western sanctions on Russia. It's to whip up covid fear so the DNC can mail-in their way to victory and/or throw us back into lockdowns. (Don't want those millions of dollars of Biden bribes to go to waste!)
There was a time that I would have thought that your scenario was ridiculous. NOT ANYMORE! What you have said scares me to death. My only solace is people like the ones on this site that GET IT TOO. It also makes me realize that we are just a small part of the millions of like minded people that feel the same. God, Rush, where are you!!??
Americans in general, myself included for some time, are often woefully under educated about the absurdities that have taken place under the CCP.
In the Great Leap Forward, Mao declared sparrows an enemy of the people because they ate grain. He ordered the death of all sparrows. The Chinese enthusiastically went about killing damn near every bird in China.
They neglected to think through the fact birds eat bugs and bugs eat crops, too. Their crops were devastated and the resulting famines incomprehensible bad.
Therr were many other absurdities that just boggle the mind.
I wonder that too. Shanghai isn’t the only city currently locked down according to friends of mine. Others with millions of residents are too. Friends who deal with Chinese counterparts have gotten emails that enormous distribution centers are on lockdown because other enormous cities are on lockdown and in the west we just focus on Shanghai. 🤷♀️
It's about power and control. Xi needs to retain the Mandate of Heaven and not show any weakness. The chosen path to fight the virus will be followed, cost what it may. There is an article in the Washington Post from March 3, 2020 that explains it well:
Ancient Chinese doctrine has it that when heaven is unhappy with the emperor, it signals its displeasure by raining down disasters such as floods, plagues, and swarms of locusts. The philosopher Mencius said a ruler could lose his “mandate of heaven” if he neglected his responsibility to care for the ordinary people.
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“The novel coronavirus has exposed flaws in Xi’s autocracy: the control on information, the absence of civil society and the lack of transparency have all had human costs,” said Natasha Kassam, a former Australian diplomat in China who is now at the Lowy Institute, a Sydney think tank. “But rather than prompt a rethink in Beijing, Xi and China’s leaders are more likely to double down on the most repressive elements of the regime.”
- Reinstall a sense of fear and panic in the world. It worked so well the first time they did it, seems obvious, as the fear is lifting, they would try to rekindle it. It's awfully similar to the BS they presented out of Wuhan. And we now know that was all smoke and mirrors.
- Further erosion of our supply chain. I have no doubt the current supply chain issues are an intentional part of their plan. This is really gonna make the situation worse and they will be able to blame covid as usual. Just seems a bit odd that China would do this to help implement the crisis, like self sabotage. It is bound to have major negative affects on their own economy. Of all things we will learn to move away from any reliance on China.
One thing I am sure of, it isn't actually about the virus.
If they truly tank their own economy, they can always call our national debt. After we further deplete our weapons for Ukraine and ruin our Military by attrition and/or purging.
I think your second theory is spot on. AS far as theory 1, doubt that nearly as many people on other countries will fall for the "COVID is scary" narrative at this point, and I think China knows that. But they can really impede the supply chain w/this operation without admitting that it was their goal in the 1st place. Short-term pain on their part for long-term gain.
only if he is in charge, the ccp model doesnt work for him, or any other commie if its ther opponents making the rules. Thats the absurdity of communism and socialism that nobody seems to ever understand.
We got played two years ago with the fake videos of people collapsing in the street... which spurred out "leaders" into lockdowns and other economic destruction. Is China trying to play us again?
TCurry62 - PETA cannot go in unless its declared a war zone. Despite that, via obscure channels they have saved many pets and farmed/feral. This a long-time nightmare. Every soul deserves a fair chance. My heart breaks for the pets, but China has been farming feral and domestics for decades. Humans included under "domestic" Thanks for giving a thought to the others, who we designed to survive from us, and now we fail them.
I agree with you and our Political leaders here in America should be front and center regardless of what you think of the CCP leadership the Chinese people are God's children. When you they removed the Place of worship Church synagogue etc. And God from everything what you get have is Tyranny. And I believe it's election year in China as well so they are using the Fauci and Collins Model. This is why the Blue checks Elite media are ignoring what they have done. And now that want everyone to take a 5th and 6th mRNA shot for Ukraine.
Please. U.S. is is a CAPTURED country--Deep State, MSM, Academia. LOL, speaking out. With the Bidens taking $ from China? Don't hold yr breath. TPTB are too busy dangling the shiny keys of Ukraine at the mob, ginning up mass formation tools who believe it is their patriotic duty to suffer $7.00/gallon gas prices, but as per usual just putting the screws to the little guy. Same sh*t, different (& more expensive now) toilet paper.
Who butters our bread? Bluechecks are controlled, and we only care about Ukraine. This China mess going on 50 + years has been swept under the rug for very big contracts. They have commodities. So lets not rock the global economic boat. Although, we are halfway tipping over.
I heard more than one "health professional" say China had the ability to eradicate disease because of their government so this makes those people salivate like a dog watching a steak.
Oh no I think they are too busy cooking rattlesnakes and venomous Frogs venom to flakes for them to smoke and hallucinate more crazy ideas like circles on the floor plexiglass mRNA SHOTS face mask.
because they are beholden to china. Financially, many corporations need the chinese market and do whatever they are told by the ccp. Hurting these corporations may be part of the reason behind this insane lockdown.
I think Alex was pretty close to why they are doing this, but the theory that I have heard that seems to make the most sense is cultural to the CCP. If Xi allows a virus to devastate the people while he is in power it is more or less a sign that he is no longer capable of leading. The joke is on him though. If he would have just let COVID run its course, people in China would never have noticed. Just like they didn't notice it circulating from 2017 until late 2019.
It was apparently not circulating that much after their initial lockdowns either, according to their statistics, anyway (which I never believed). However, you might remember the glorious videos of the people coming out of lockdowns not too long after they started, giving the impression that they had controlled the virus. Perhaps this new strain is spreading too fast for them to control the narrative the same way it was controlled before.
The funny thing about this is that people really think there is some grand plan here -- or some ACTUAL reason Xi is doing this. But there isn't -- Westerners do not understand Asian Face-Saving culture.
The simplest and most direct explanation of "why" is this: Xi Wants To Save Face.
He said there would be zero Covid. Therefore he CANNOT stop all the zero Covid lockdowns and plans otherwise it would make him lose face. It would force him to admit he was wrong or that he can't control it.
In Asia -- especially China -- it doesn't matter if EVERYBODY knows you are wrong. It doesn't matter if EVERYBODY knows what the truth is. What's more important is simply not admitting that you were wrong or what the truth is.
I have lived in Thailand since 2016 in Chiang Mai -- pretty much the most popular tourist spot for Chinese in the world. So there's a big mix of Southeast Asia and Mainland Chinese here.
I've seen it time and time again. For example, a 25-year-old programmer trying to teach a 45-year-old employee about a new software.
It's rude to "talk down" to someone older than you, as if you know more than them. It can make them lose face. And as I've pointed out -- losing face is the worst possible thing that could ever happen to you.
So to teach the 45-year-old employee, the younger, more knowledgeable man had to do it like this:
"I know you understand this already, but I'm having a hard time figuring this out. So first I open this menu, and then click this option, right?"
And the 45-year-old guy would say "Yes, that's right."
In other words, the 25-year-old had to teach the 45-year-old about the software in a way that made it SOUND like the 45-year-old was actually teaching him.
That's how extremely absurd the face saving culture is here. And that's all you're witnessing.
I'm so over this shit that I no longer believe suicide is a cowards way out. I will not be ruled, period. I will go down with a fight, but no doubt lose.
There's not enough men in America to save America and that's a dam fact. Young dudes have been feminized, weak minded girlymen!
Let’s be real. China’s “miracle” was a one time gift from Western politicians and the lazy big businesses that support them, who giveaway our capital, technology & our industries so these traitors could receive outsized cash payola by leveraging slave labor. Those days are over — for both sides. The same mindset that believes communism is a viable political & economic system is the one that believes one can lock down a city of 25 million people to stop a respiratory cold. The idiocracy knows no geographical boundaries.
“another possibility is that Xi and the Chinese leadership in Beijing are using Covid to clamp down on Shanghai, which is more liberal and Western-facing than the Chinese capital. China has carried out purges of Shanghai officials before, including the city’s chief prosecutor in 2018.”
this is exactly it. Shanghai is more liberal, more educated, wealthy and many have experience more open (at least relatively) societies of the west.
this is being done to ensure obedience. the way jan 6 insurrectionist are kept in prison with no arraignment more than two year later. in the same way USAG Garland labels parents at school board meetings domestic terrorists. in the same way the DOJ and FBI raided Project Veritas over a fucking diary. in the same way medical boards are witch hunting doctors who don’t toe the CDC/NIH line- ‘quick and devastating takes downs’ not only have the effect of silencing those who would oppose you, but also those paying attention.
A longtime friend with family in Shanghai says it is about control. The CCP does not care about its people and never has. Westerners can't fathom the level of cruelty and evil that the Chinese experience from their own government.
I strongly recommend for those having time, the books by Jung Chang: Mao the untold story, and Three Swans. She lived through much of the Mao era before getting out in the 70s. Three Swans is about three generations in her family: her grandmother, mother, and herself. Many appalling things were revealed. One that stuck in my mind was about her father. People worked 6 days a week and had communist indoctrination on the 7th day. Her father was a total believer in communism, following everything to the letter. Then, he was imprisoned and tortured during a purge. That opened their eyes.
She also said that during the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, she put people in only two categories: those who would persecute people to save their own skin, and those who wouldn’t.
Sorry, I think it's just Communist ham-fisted bungling. They aren't all that smart.
Not to mention that Garland has opened a new investigation into Elon Musk's financial dealings. Nice. The machine protects itself.
Absolutely agree - this is political. There is a cleansing going on there.
U got it! Compliance for an autocrat (tip o' the hat to Trudeau) is a beautiful thing, cost be damned!
Worldwide ideological derangement, seen in societies immersed in hyper-individualistic, socially isolating electronic devices. It's a double whammy of psychologically crippling addiction and social isolation. The old drugs were addicting, but not necessarily socially isolating. The derangement and disruption is coming from collectivists, particularly elites, the ordained middle managers of community development. You can have one-party system run solely by the most liberal of democrats (collectivists), but if the everyday social dynamic is mass entrapment in hyper-individualism and social isolation, you effectively have two polar ideological extremes living side-by-side, one in the political realm, the other in the social realm. The result is ideological derangement in the very forces that hold the power. This is a dangerous situation, not just for China. The drug that's destroying us is addictive personal electronic entertainment devices of all kinds engrossing all ages groups. This is the right-wing (individualistic) nemesis they know exists but refuse to see.
Nicely done, putting into words what Adam Curtis gets across in documentary 'Hypernormalization - A World Without Power"...
EXACTLY! In addition to "more liberal, more educated, wealthy" here are also more foreigners in Shanghai as well.
The CCP also benefits when its competitors follow suit. Lockdowns hurt our economy, not theirs.
In fact I sometimes wonder if a lot of this isn’t just for show.
Why are so many other cities facing the same measures? Why would Xi make himself look like he's lost control of the situation. Not buying it.
I think that his own people will be afraid, cowed and divided by this. He is readying to attack Taiwan and wants his society adrift and dependent on their bureaucracy. Lets see them prove Xi wrong.
People are not just doing as they are told. They are falling all over themselves to demonstrate how good they are at doing what they are told.
wow, what a weird and sick phenomenon/society.(from an american perspective). I think that any time we think we understand the chinese, and Xi we need to think again.
Michael Osterholm seems like a nut. Listened to him, he wants us masked and force vaxed til 2024. Send him to China? Also Can we just transition / pivot now to doing business with non commy countries like India and Brazil. Singapore, Japan, Maybe Mexico? How about we just stop buying from china ?
Anyone who favors lockdowns should be given a two-week mandatory stay in Shanghai. They'll come back a new person, if they manage to escape...
I agree, why don’t all those people locked up just leave those apartments they are more of them than those who are guarding them. You’re already a slaved prisoner what could be worse.
At a certain point one has nothing to lose. The key is to get out early. And we are in a long phase of that key moment over here, but many have willingly gone into their cages at the ringing of the bell.
I agree you have nothing to lose. Yes we have lots in the uk the same, once they hear that bell or booster shot they go running.
Big sigh. I tried informing people here for two years and now I'm moving.
It’s doesn’t work. I’ve tried to reason with my dad who has always been sceptical of government but on this he’s sold 100%. He believes in the vaccines 100% too.
Seriously send Fauci there in a gimp closet with a Pulp Fiction ball gag. Then feed him locust through his nostrils
Been doing that for 20 years. It’s not easy. Try buying hockey gear not made in China easier said than done. Everyone should at all cost never ever buy anything made in a communist country.
I heard a sound bite from crazy Tony on the radio yesterday. He was saying that the purpose of lockdowns is to force vaccinations so that when you open up, Poof, no more Covid. He is living in a dystopian parallel universe and is as frightening an authoritarian as you can imagine.
this fucking idiot (fauci). that would work great IF the vaccines actually worked. I hate him too.
https://www.newswars.com/video-fauci-declares-you-use-lockdowns-to-get-people-vaccinated/
Especially our raw materials for pharmaceuticals. Better be nice to them until we can obtain them, and start manufacturing them again.
"Also Can we just transition / pivot now to doing business with non commy countries like India and Brazil. Singapore, Japan, Maybe Mexico? How about we just stop buying from china ?" Takes a long time because so many companies foolishly tied up vast sums of their own capital in China.
It’s not just money. It’s essential goods to function on our own. Consider that China owns the raw materials to nearly 100% of the world’s pharmaceuticals. We manufacture the pill or capsule after buying the actual drug from China. What happens is we are in a military conflict in Taiwan, or the South China Sea?
I hate that Osterholm guy. What a maroon.
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I think Fauci deserves an extended stay in Shanghai as well! He can pack extra masks. Maybe wear three or four. Enjoy their vacation paradise!
I'm surprised you say he wants us masked, as all I've ever heard from him is that masking doesn't work unless it's N95's. Otherwise I do think he's an alarmist nut, though.
No Prior to August he was a mask advocate. There is one other asshole down in Carlsbad or that area that’s nuts and the dipshit in San Francisco at UCSF as well. When I think of their names I will add them here. These people need to be charged and convicted.
And repeatedly bitch slapped while suffering an intractable wedgie. And feed them booger sandwiches through a colostomy bag
...and worse.
I will forever be puzzled as to why more people everywhere (not just the US) were not more outraged over all these lockdowns and mandates. So few of my friends and family and colleagues were angry about what was happening here during lock down madness or what Canada did to the truckers convoy. Does nothing enrage us anymore that doesn't involve pronouns?
I agree. The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it all is. All the evidence and common sense shows that you can’t stop a virus. You really can’t even slow it down. Everything we did made the pandemic worse than it would have been if we let it run it’s coarse. The only question is whether it was intentional and malicious or incompetence and cowardice. Probably a horrible combo. Either way, the most frightening revelation is that most people went along with it, including doctors and scientists. People were willing to throw away their freedom and everyone else’s because of irrational fear for virus they likely weren’t at risk for. At no point did they start to even ask questions about the nonstop propaganda, the creepy announcements in stores, the stickers on the floor for 6 feet apart, the ridiculous sanitizing for an airborne virus, the refusal to allow medical experts to repurpose drugs for treatment or even allow early treatment, but taking new untested medical treatments and infusions was rational and the right thing to do? Demonizing people and refusing them service for not wearing a useless mask. And that is just a tiny fraction of the foolishness. I will never understand the level of crazy I have witnessed in the last 2+ years.
I'm with you. I'm so glad I've found forums like this. There were so few in my circle that agreed with me that I was beginning to feel like I was the crazy one. I never thought I'd live to see the day that Western democracies would descend into this kind of authoritarianism and that the vast majority would just go along with it. I cannot wrap my head around it. I've lost friends over this, especially the mask bullshit. It's astounding.
It really is. I don’t think they see how crazy it is to end a relationship over a mask. They are true believers. It is sad and scary. I am also grateful for the forums like this. I have had moments where I felt like I was crazy also. Substack has been a blessing.
We have become a country of people who will comply with any show of authority . Example: you move into a new home you worked for years to have. Up shows the Home Owners Association to explain the rules.. what you can plant in your yard,, park in your driveway. . What color you can paint your shutters.. And what forms you must submit to ask permission.. And no one says Hey. No. This is MY house. We do what we're told. Shut up, go along, obey the rules. That's who we are now.. A nation of obedient fools.
And we PAY for the "luxury" of their arbitrary rules! I'm calling their bluff and having the rocks delivered. They can sue me if they want!
Donna - So true! You must be a clairvoyant. We're literally in a showdown with our HOA on the types/colors of rocks we can put around some of our landscaping. Bunch of snobs imo
Sad, but true
I'm now convinced that the virus is just an opportunity for the authoritarians among us to expand and strengthen their control. There are just enough submissive, useful idiots to allow this.
It was intentional. The PSYOP began when the "experts" claimed your mask protects others. Go back and look at the sequence of events after that
I don't even recognize my friends. Selfish indifference is my most charitable assessment.
People are too busy scrolling facebook and instagram & posting about their little life to take the time to know about what is really going on in the world. That has been my experience anyway in the circles I am a part of.
Uh oh. Guess I’d better up my intake of milk thistle!
You missed one more alternative: A new wave of 'covid fear' will be an excuse for mail-in ballots in the midterms.
I've been hearing this prediction for months now. Why keep Emergency Powers alive if you don't intend to use (read: abuse) them?
I suspect the drop boxes won't go un-monitored this time. A few angry people will be watching them. Fool me once ....
They're moving in this direction as fast as they can. The evil dwarf is back out on the lockdown, mask, vaccine campaign trail. They can't let a red wave happen.
Indubitably.
For all the gnashing of teeth over globalism and resets, this just proves how inept and incompetent central planning truly is.
Can you imagine if some of these folks find the balls [or ovaries] to simply not comply?
There wouldn't be enough jackbooted thugs in the world to contain it.
It only takes a few people to have a little bit of courage...
i’d say in china, you need more than a few. it’s a numbers game. who’s gonna be the one to stick their neck out first? to have your head bashed in like a corgi in the hopes that you’ll inspire others to follow?
Some are doing it to themselves, jumping off their balconies. They literally have nothing left to lose.
OMG!
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In China, "a few" means more than it does anywhere else.
cc: German JEWS 1939
Well maybe. In Shanghai, the People's Army would start machine gunning crowds in the street.
What exactly is the goal here of the Chinese authorities? To make people suffer just for the hell of it? To remind the Chinese people how powerless they are? Do they really believe in zero Covid?
Even from the standpoint of a tyrant I have a hard time making sense of this.
I've only a couple theories that make sense: It's a roundabout way of continuing to screw up the supply chain, maybe in response to western sanctions on Russia. It's to whip up covid fear so the DNC can mail-in their way to victory and/or throw us back into lockdowns. (Don't want those millions of dollars of Biden bribes to go to waste!)
There was a time that I would have thought that your scenario was ridiculous. NOT ANYMORE! What you have said scares me to death. My only solace is people like the ones on this site that GET IT TOO. It also makes me realize that we are just a small part of the millions of like minded people that feel the same. God, Rush, where are you!!??
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No, they don't believe in zero COVID. Yes, they do want to drive home the point that individuals have absolutely no inherent rights whatsoever.
Americans in general, myself included for some time, are often woefully under educated about the absurdities that have taken place under the CCP.
In the Great Leap Forward, Mao declared sparrows an enemy of the people because they ate grain. He ordered the death of all sparrows. The Chinese enthusiastically went about killing damn near every bird in China.
They neglected to think through the fact birds eat bugs and bugs eat crops, too. Their crops were devastated and the resulting famines incomprehensible bad.
Therr were many other absurdities that just boggle the mind.
They're stupid. It's that simple. A pyramid scheme where the dullest but most vicious get to the top. Like in Soviet Russia.
I wonder that too. Shanghai isn’t the only city currently locked down according to friends of mine. Others with millions of residents are too. Friends who deal with Chinese counterparts have gotten emails that enormous distribution centers are on lockdown because other enormous cities are on lockdown and in the west we just focus on Shanghai. 🤷♀️
It's about power and control. Xi needs to retain the Mandate of Heaven and not show any weakness. The chosen path to fight the virus will be followed, cost what it may. There is an article in the Washington Post from March 3, 2020 that explains it well:
Ancient Chinese doctrine has it that when heaven is unhappy with the emperor, it signals its displeasure by raining down disasters such as floods, plagues, and swarms of locusts. The philosopher Mencius said a ruler could lose his “mandate of heaven” if he neglected his responsibility to care for the ordinary people.
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“The novel coronavirus has exposed flaws in Xi’s autocracy: the control on information, the absence of civil society and the lack of transparency have all had human costs,” said Natasha Kassam, a former Australian diplomat in China who is now at the Lowy Institute, a Sydney think tank. “But rather than prompt a rethink in Beijing, Xi and China’s leaders are more likely to double down on the most repressive elements of the regime.”
Read 'Hungry Ghosts'. Those under totalitarian rule will go to great and lengths to avoid telling the emperor he has no clothes
A few theories:
- Reinstall a sense of fear and panic in the world. It worked so well the first time they did it, seems obvious, as the fear is lifting, they would try to rekindle it. It's awfully similar to the BS they presented out of Wuhan. And we now know that was all smoke and mirrors.
- Further erosion of our supply chain. I have no doubt the current supply chain issues are an intentional part of their plan. This is really gonna make the situation worse and they will be able to blame covid as usual. Just seems a bit odd that China would do this to help implement the crisis, like self sabotage. It is bound to have major negative affects on their own economy. Of all things we will learn to move away from any reliance on China.
One thing I am sure of, it isn't actually about the virus.
If they truly tank their own economy, they can always call our national debt. After we further deplete our weapons for Ukraine and ruin our Military by attrition and/or purging.
Oh Man! That does explain it. And I think if you go right down to the source of all this crap it is the central banks running the show. Shoot. Scary!
Oh ouch... I think you've nailed it in one. And that's terrifying.
I think your second theory is spot on. AS far as theory 1, doubt that nearly as many people on other countries will fall for the "COVID is scary" narrative at this point, and I think China knows that. But they can really impede the supply chain w/this operation without admitting that it was their goal in the 1st place. Short-term pain on their part for long-term gain.
How a single person trusts ANYthing originating with the CCP is astonishing. Crazy to think Gates and Fauci feel the CCP is the perfect model
Not really that crazy when you think what these people ultimately want.
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and Trudeau is very fond of the CCP model as the world has now witnessed
only if he is in charge, the ccp model doesnt work for him, or any other commie if its ther opponents making the rules. Thats the absurdity of communism and socialism that nobody seems to ever understand.
No doubt!
We got played two years ago with the fake videos of people collapsing in the street... which spurred out "leaders" into lockdowns and other economic destruction. Is China trying to play us again?
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What i dont understand is why no blue checks or leaders in America coming out against the human rights violations in China.
What I also don’t understand is where is PETA? Have you seen what they’re doing to the cats and dogs? Why isn’t PETA violently denouncing them?
TCurry62 - PETA cannot go in unless its declared a war zone. Despite that, via obscure channels they have saved many pets and farmed/feral. This a long-time nightmare. Every soul deserves a fair chance. My heart breaks for the pets, but China has been farming feral and domestics for decades. Humans included under "domestic" Thanks for giving a thought to the others, who we designed to survive from us, and now we fail them.
Have a Blessed Easter 🐣 weekend my friend.
TY AJB. And to you and yours also. Full moon Saturday - cheers amico!
I agree with you and our Political leaders here in America should be front and center regardless of what you think of the CCP leadership the Chinese people are God's children. When you they removed the Place of worship Church synagogue etc. And God from everything what you get have is Tyranny. And I believe it's election year in China as well so they are using the Fauci and Collins Model. This is why the Blue checks Elite media are ignoring what they have done. And now that want everyone to take a 5th and 6th mRNA shot for Ukraine.
Christianity is growing very fast in China. See the Economist:
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/09/15/protestant-christianity-is-booming-in-china
Please. U.S. is is a CAPTURED country--Deep State, MSM, Academia. LOL, speaking out. With the Bidens taking $ from China? Don't hold yr breath. TPTB are too busy dangling the shiny keys of Ukraine at the mob, ginning up mass formation tools who believe it is their patriotic duty to suffer $7.00/gallon gas prices, but as per usual just putting the screws to the little guy. Same sh*t, different (& more expensive now) toilet paper.
Who butters our bread? Bluechecks are controlled, and we only care about Ukraine. This China mess going on 50 + years has been swept under the rug for very big contracts. They have commodities. So lets not rock the global economic boat. Although, we are halfway tipping over.
I heard more than one "health professional" say China had the ability to eradicate disease because of their government so this makes those people salivate like a dog watching a steak.
And Pfizer today is recommending an extra jab for the 11+ yo kids. Since when do profiteers have a say in kids' health. Keep your eye on the steak!
Funny I asked the same thing on the book of faces this week...crickets...
They’re all about the government power so they don’t want to speak ill of China
Monthly check/donation hasn't cleared yet?
Oh no I think they are too busy cooking rattlesnakes and venomous Frogs venom to flakes for them to smoke and hallucinate more crazy ideas like circles on the floor plexiglass mRNA SHOTS face mask.
Still more proof they don't care.
because they are beholden to china. Financially, many corporations need the chinese market and do whatever they are told by the ccp. Hurting these corporations may be part of the reason behind this insane lockdown.
I think Alex was pretty close to why they are doing this, but the theory that I have heard that seems to make the most sense is cultural to the CCP. If Xi allows a virus to devastate the people while he is in power it is more or less a sign that he is no longer capable of leading. The joke is on him though. If he would have just let COVID run its course, people in China would never have noticed. Just like they didn't notice it circulating from 2017 until late 2019.
It was apparently not circulating that much after their initial lockdowns either, according to their statistics, anyway (which I never believed). However, you might remember the glorious videos of the people coming out of lockdowns not too long after they started, giving the impression that they had controlled the virus. Perhaps this new strain is spreading too fast for them to control the narrative the same way it was controlled before.
China has no place in the 21st century.
Its main pillar of existence is grounded in deception and lies. CCP cannot exist without IT
Mao wrote that state power flows from the mouth of a gun. That is the main pillar of existence of the CCP. Deception & lies support that pillar.
The funny thing about this is that people really think there is some grand plan here -- or some ACTUAL reason Xi is doing this. But there isn't -- Westerners do not understand Asian Face-Saving culture.
The simplest and most direct explanation of "why" is this: Xi Wants To Save Face.
He said there would be zero Covid. Therefore he CANNOT stop all the zero Covid lockdowns and plans otherwise it would make him lose face. It would force him to admit he was wrong or that he can't control it.
In Asia -- especially China -- it doesn't matter if EVERYBODY knows you are wrong. It doesn't matter if EVERYBODY knows what the truth is. What's more important is simply not admitting that you were wrong or what the truth is.
I have lived in Thailand since 2016 in Chiang Mai -- pretty much the most popular tourist spot for Chinese in the world. So there's a big mix of Southeast Asia and Mainland Chinese here.
I've seen it time and time again. For example, a 25-year-old programmer trying to teach a 45-year-old employee about a new software.
It's rude to "talk down" to someone older than you, as if you know more than them. It can make them lose face. And as I've pointed out -- losing face is the worst possible thing that could ever happen to you.
So to teach the 45-year-old employee, the younger, more knowledgeable man had to do it like this:
"I know you understand this already, but I'm having a hard time figuring this out. So first I open this menu, and then click this option, right?"
And the 45-year-old guy would say "Yes, that's right."
In other words, the 25-year-old had to teach the 45-year-old about the software in a way that made it SOUND like the 45-year-old was actually teaching him.
That's how extremely absurd the face saving culture is here. And that's all you're witnessing.
I'm so over this shit that I no longer believe suicide is a cowards way out. I will not be ruled, period. I will go down with a fight, but no doubt lose.
There's not enough men in America to save America and that's a dam fact. Young dudes have been feminized, weak minded girlymen!
I am truly surprised armed Americans didn't go to the Southern border in droves last February. We are not the same nation we were in the past.
The American Left would sell their own transgender children to be able to do this to American citizens.
Let’s be real. China’s “miracle” was a one time gift from Western politicians and the lazy big businesses that support them, who giveaway our capital, technology & our industries so these traitors could receive outsized cash payola by leveraging slave labor. Those days are over — for both sides. The same mindset that believes communism is a viable political & economic system is the one that believes one can lock down a city of 25 million people to stop a respiratory cold. The idiocracy knows no geographical boundaries.