The requirement to wear masks on planes has always been the most embarrassing and ridiculous mandate of all, given the excellent filtration on aircraft and the fact that only a handful of Covid cases have EVER been traced to flights. Now it’s gone.
Nice to see federal judges do their job. Mandates are dropping faster than Uncle Joe’s approval rating (no coincidence).
Im on a flight tomorrow and have every intention of printing the Judges Order and handing it to the flight attendant when she/he starts the bullshit speech about masks!
Just so you know, the flight attendant's / pilots have been awesome about this. I took a flight just recently, wore the mask for a grand total of 10 minutes on the 5.5 hour flight. No one said anything. They are just as done with it as we are.
I'm glad you've had a good experience. Literally every one of my friends that fly regularly have been tyrannized by flight attendants about masking on every single flight they take.
That has been my experience. There are those bossy boss people who loved being able to tell us how to Quickly replace the mask after a sip and a nibble. As they cram us in the seats. What ever will they do now?
Low status/low quality people loved the mandates, as it normalized their neurosis and gave them a sense of superiority that their competence and reasoning abilities will never afford them. It also justified their a-hole personalities, they could rudely share their crap opinion with you because they were being noble in seeking your own good.
I've dealt with people who have issues of control for more than I wish to admit - the one common denominator they all share is their own lives are completely out of control hence the need to control everyone else.
Funny story okay?
I've a friend whose a massive control freak - I just stay outside when I visit. She's so out of control she has camera's in the house so that when her own mother and or mother in law babysit (occasionally) she can watch everything they do. One day she left explicit directions (with her own mother mind you) what clothes she wanted her son to wear and immediately called her when she noticed he was NOT wearing his green shirt!!! Her mother replied - that's ok, I told him it was his green shirt!
The attendant on my SW flight last week sanctimoniously mask-preached at every opportunity. When she walked by my seat, I could see she was wearing a see-through, mesh mask . . .
Generally, attendants are low paid, leftist, semi-intelligent, odd sexuality, freaks. The good news? They rarely reproduce, and when they do, this Catholic does not mind that they abort it. I hate Leftists.
My morals and ethics have remained inviolate for many years, but Leftists and their Bolshevik/Rothschildean handlers have brought me to the brink of annihilation, and self-defense. And while I am steadfastly anti-abortion, my HATRED of Leftists (really self-preservation of my race) leads me to believe any method of their expulsion works. Hail victory, Hasbarite.
It takes highly focalized messages, to pierce the adamantium biofilms that conflate a man of action and truth, with little creatures under a bridge. Time grows short, war is coming, we need to name the enemy.
From one Catholic/Christian to another, this is a terrible thing to say. Its self righteous and hateful. Jesus would never talk this way. This is the kind of comment that gives Catholics a bad name.
WEAKNESS and infiltration by the Synagogue of Satan and the Jesuits, give us a bad name. Was a time, we fought like poet warriors, and Jesus smiled. He never said "be passive, fat, eat Doritos, click your remotes as you watch NOGball, and all will be well."
Not related to COVID, but prescient in that it has to do with the tyranny of a flight attendant...
We were flying from Chicago to St Louis with our daughter who was sick at the time. It just so happened to be her second birthday. Being sick, she wanted us to hold her constantly. Now you should know that my daughter, when she was little, could probably scream louder than any kid I've ever seen in my life- high pitched, siren like screams that if they would continue long enough, it would drive even the most sane person mad.
The flight attendant, who was obviously very new at her job considering how nervous she seemed to be at times and how young she was, came down the aisle and said to my wife, "She's adorable.... How old is she?"
I jumped in and said, "She's almost two."
You see, we had purchased a seat for her because the rule was two and over needed to have a paid seat. But the rule was also the two and over had to be strapped in that seat during takeoff and landing. And I knew that wasn't going to fly, pun intend. But my sweet, and overly honest wife, said, "No... Today is her 2nd birthday."
Uhg!
So you know what happened.."well she will need to be in her seat. We are ready to taxi to the runway for takeoff."
I tried to warn the girl. I explained to her that our daughter was sick and that if we made her sit in that seat not a soul was going to have any peace on that flight. It didn't matter. A rule is a rule!
So as she's up there giving all the instructions to the passengers about safety and what to do in an emergency, no one could hear a word.
Funny you should say that! She was thoroughly annoyed. In fact, we held her during landing and the attendant acted like she didn't even see us.
I even asked the young woman, "So if we flew yesterday, we could have held her and it would be fine, but its 24 hours later and holding her is now unsafe?"
HER: "It is an FAA regulation for a reason. Sir."
I knew that, but it's also kind of ridiculous. They base it on age. Why not weight.... wouldn't that make more sense if its for the kid's safety?
Our daughter was an adoption. She had just had heart surgery and we were flying home. She was very tiny due to her condition (all of 19 pounds at 2 years old!) There are very few 2 year old American children who weigh in at less than 20lbs. I was surprised she even asked her age. I suspect it was because when we boarded we showed her three boarding passes, which surely clued her in. But parents of toddlers will often buy an extra seat on flights.
There are too many examples of boldly neglectful leadership set by Joe, Kamala and everyone touching their mis-administration. Increasingly, Joe's criminal past saps his ability to lead. If he doesn't step down soon, we are overdue for the U.S.A's first junta with faithful Gen. Milley leading the parade!
Funny story, too bad for the poor people on the flight, haha My granddaughter has a high pitched scream that can wake the dead. I've never heard anything like it, so I can relate!
FYI... it wasn't a sickness in the "she caught a virus and is feverish". She was sick from a serious heart condition and had just went through major surgery... and we were flying home. She was on numerous post surgery medications and we had to take great care during recovery. Getting home as quickly as possible was imperative. But next time one of my kids has a congenital heart defect and needs open heart surgery in another city equipped and specializing in the procedure, I'll be sure to drive so you can relax. Thanks for the tip.
It was a simple choice... hold her and she was fine and everyone can relax. Not holding her after such trauma and she was scared and confused... and screaming.
What was the out-come? “The, Curtain-Call”?? “Final Scene???”
Finally, there is "the resolution, also known as the denouement", which is the end of the play, where everything comes together and the situation has been resolved, leaving the audience satisfied with the play as a whole.
So, what was the juicy “resolution????” For you and your family, and that adorable sweet precious little girl of yours??
We landed safely and the flight attendant allowed us to hold her... and while holding her she was as quiet as a lamb.
As for her surgery, she made a full recovery and is now a teenager. We formerly had to see a pediatric cardiologist on a regular basis just to keep tabs on things. Last time we went was about 18 months ago. After listening to her heart the doctor said, "It would be very difficult for any cardiologist to notice any difference between her heart and any other in a child her age."
She is healthy and happy and doesn't even recall those touch and go moments when she was at death's door.
I spend a great deal of time on airplanes and I can concur with your friends' assessments. A lot of flight attendants seem to relish wielding the power the mandate gives them.
Most of crews I've experienced haven't cared. We've flown with our kids around 10 times since 2020 and we've only had one Adolph Karen say something about a 5yo and 7yo not wearing masks.
I'm currently writing this in the airport and I'm gonna try to board with no mask.
I hope to God they leave you alone simply by ignoring you, with that smug look 👀 So many of them have. If I didn’t know better I would swear they teach that at the school that each one of them has to go to……..
That's been my experience, including Southwest, which has otherwise been a good experience in all other respects. When it comes to masks? They've enforced it.
Same. Flight attendants have been absolutely tyrannical about masks. I think they sooo enjoyed the power trip they were on. Now they can just go back to taking drink orders & slinging hash in the galley.
I think the flight attendants have forgotten who the customer is and who pays all the bills -- we do. They think, like Hollywood and the mainstream media and academia and public education, that they don't need us. They think that they don't need our permission or our approval but yes, they do need our permission and our approval. I haven't flown on a plane and I don't intend to unless I absolutely have to. I will not be PCR tested, I will not show vaxx papers (I don't have any), and I won't wear a mask. My money will stay in my wallet until those three things are off the table. Let the flight industry suffer a little more.
Me Too!, just flew from Knoxville Tennessee through Atlanta to San Francisco almost never had the mask on Maybe a few minutes, everyone out there you never have to wear your mask in the airport, there are no mask police. You have to play the game going through TSA and then getting on the plane but never in the airport. Hopefully this new ruling will stop the bullshit.
Wow, Sep 21 we had the opposite experience. The purser was Ilse the She Wolf from the SS. I guess it depends on the person. We (my family) even had our own mini-cabin in business class and they were hasling us. The purser suddenly barged in while I was eating dinner and threw an insane tantrum because I was eating too slowly and threatened arrest on arrival in Munich. An Italian FA tried to be nice to us for the rest of the trip. I have put LH on my boycott list forever.
Germany is one of the most Branch Covidian countries in the world. The old Axis, Germany, Austria and Italy are the worst. In Bavaria they had outdoor FFP2 (N95) mandates for months. The crazy FAs on my flight were raging about the US being a high risk country so extra precautions must be taken! The plane was very empty because the US ban from the EU was still in effect. Later my return on Swiss from ZRH was very pleasant with no mask enforcement at least in business class. Swiss is part of LH group, so on the fence if I will boycott them in the future.
In 2018, my wife and I had to board a Lufthansa in Brussels for our leg to Dulles. From the terminal, they crammed us into a tiny bus with no July air-conditioning or windows.
The driver was boxed off with his own A.C. I was ready to tear the doors off! Instead, I led passengers in a protest song ("Oh Lufthansa, Oh Lufthansa, wo ist dein luft?" set to "Oh, Tannenbaum.") which took my mind off the asphyxiation. Once settled in Economy, my back encountered a seat that was curved like an eggshell. I found no rest. I spent the rest of the trip pacing the cabin from front to back. Can I sue them for war crimes?
Since covid began I flew once a year ago and Southwest had always been one of my favorite airlines....that ended with that flight. They were terrible regarding masks! Constant recordings playing telling people to wear their masks properly, completely over their noses. Only water served while reminding passengers insistently to keep their masks on between sip and bites. I felt like I was being indoctrinated into some kind of mask cult. Flight attendents walked around reminding passengers to pull their masks up over their noses....it was terrible and non-stop.
I have traveled to Jamaica almost every year for the last 20....since covid....not once. This year we drove to Florida....much more enjoyable. Airlines have a lot of work to do to win back the public. I realize its not all employees but I hope next time, as there will be a next time, the citizens of this country stand together and strong by not allowing fear and illegal actions to take our common sense and freedom from us. Learn the lessons....stand together and strong America!
my spouse had a non-covid SW Airlines encounter so negative within the past 18 months, that he refuses to fly that airline again, an attitude rare for him (so it was bad)
I have grudge against the airlines, Trader Joes, Disney, and many others. Also, I have a newfound hatred for big cities like NYC, Philly, Miami, Baltimore, and other places that upheld mask mandates far too long. Believe me, no one in rural texas or oklahoma was wearing a mask this entire time. And South Dakota never had a lockdown or mask mandate ever. The whole thing was BS from the start and mark my words, this mask thing is coming back. Wait 'til the flu season comes back this upcoming winter.
I'm in NYC. Most people here think that everyone between NYC and LA is stupid. There are plenty of stupid people here and there are plenty of brilliant people in the South. Most of these big cities are entirely overrated. If people could get over getting their vacation spoonfed to them via some bus tour of Times Square and actually go fishing or hiking or hunting or ATV ridin', they'd have an awesome time in North Central Texas, or Rural Oklahoma or South Dakota or Wyoming. And what's the best way to get to these places and see America: the car and the roadtrip!
Yes, I totally agree with you! The lack of charity or empathy and the enjoyment of tyranny is one of the the most shocking and disturbing aspects of this whole COVID scam! We are driving 18 hours rather than go near an airport this week- not looking forward to it but we just couldn't face it again. Things are looking up!!
What's interesting is that during Stalin's rule, it was noted that people would cheer and show incredible enthusiasm while Stalin came through town. Stalin never asked for people to show that much obedience and zeal about his rule. Likewise, the CDC and Biden never asked the airlines to tell people to wear the mask between bites of food or sips of water -- the airlines took it upon themselves to go from stupid to full-retard with respect to the mask mandate. It will take me a long time to forgive the airlines. And yes, I started taking road trips and I love them. I have seen so much of America and I actually enjoy my roadtrips more than I ever enjoyed flying. I have met the most awesome people in Panama City FL or Little Rock, AK or Gumby, TX. The airlines don't deserve my money and they don't deserve yours either.
Depends on the flight, we have been threatened to be thrown off for not pulling them back up after a sip of a drink, still a few little Nazi’s out there sadly.
Yep, I heard of such stories and therefore I refused to give the airlines one cent of my money during this entire scamdemic. We have the power... the power is in withholding payment and not purchasing their services. Don't fly. You'd be surprised how efficient and convenient driving is. I understand sometimes you might have to fly (for a funeral or work or something) but if you have a choice and you probably do, drive. It's awesome!!!
Same here. I absolutely REFUSED to enable some FA to experience a full-blown “ego trip” at my expense! The mere THOUGHT of me being victimized in that way sent chills down my spine (overly dramatic, I admit😀)
NOW I will FINALLY be able to visit my grandchildren!
Hitler, was anti-vaccine mandates. Matter of fact, the tribe behind the convid BS only won because Amerika helped Stalin. We fought on the wrong side of that conflict.
I've heard that the originating location (red or blue state) of your flight crew can really make a difference with the level of petty tyrant you encounter.
Nearly every doctor's office I've been to these last few months- and there have been many- the staff and most of the professionals are over it as well. Unfortunately, they have to follow their corporate or landlords' rules.
Just a rumor, but I heard the Xi worshiping Left Coast/Silly Valley crowd might be the first to get a hypersonic missile proof of concept from China or Russia. The only sad part of that, Facebook may not complete their Metaverse. I know. I know. Stop sobbing...
Though I think the probability of such an attack is small, I certainly agree on the targetting choice. In the absence of such an attack I think the libtards will soon be extinct through self poisoning with multiple covid jabs and circular firing squad cancel culture attacks upon their own.
Last November, I went to my medicare Doc. My only reason was to get my D3 levels checked. Tests said that I am at 74 ng/ml, then the second said 75 ng/ml. The office intake person was supremely bored when I said I was never vaxxxed. I got zero reaction from her. I live in one of the most liberal FL counties.
Took my daughter to an orthodontist appointment last week. Staff wore masks, receptionist had it under her nose and every teen that walked in for their appointment were Unmasked. Not a peep from anyone so I took mine off too. I met with the doctor and his assistant as they examined my daughter’s teeth. No one said a word to me about my full facial nudity! The doctor is Mormon…not sure if that makes a difference.
You are lucky. My doctor is fine with my wearing my mask, even during my annual physicals (that at one time, she used to take the time to look inside my mouth at my gums--for heart disease signs). Even when I said to her that my teeth and gums could be rotten underneath my mask, she declined to look underneath at my mouth health. Lost a little respect for her because of this.
That happened to me in 2020. My GP said she would leave the mouth exams to our dentists. She wore disposable scrubs, booties, hat, gloves and two masks. That was the last time I was there.
I'm very disappointed in the medical establishment as well. They have been toeing the line with the CDC and haven't spoken out about the futility of masks, the risks of the vaxx, and the fact that covid really is a minor threat to the vast majority of people. I understand that many doctors truly believe in MTV (masks, tests, and vaxx) but there have to be many others that have stood silent and allowed society to be tyrannized by these draconian, arbitrary, and useless rules.
You comment is not what most people across America, including myself have witnessed or lived through. The power of telling people what to do grew with the Flight crews over the past 2 years.
Understood, I was pointing out that times may be changing. I fly regularly, and have throughout the scamdemic. I went out of my way to thank the Alaska crew when I deplaned.
Fatcat Pleb You were very fortunate to be on a flight where the flight attendants had a relaxed attitude about mask adherence. I fly frequently and know that your experience was a rarity.
NY Laguardia is always bad (shocking right) and Atlanta crews on Delta enjoy doing the minimum (especially in first class) that they can get away with and use that time to police the isles.
It probably maybe depends on the particular crew members but in my Delta ATL flight last December we got a massive lecture from the "stewardess" about how it is "against the law" not to wear a mask and threatening us with prosecution if we violate that "law." Of course, there has never been a "law" on this ever, and may it ever be so.
Well, I need to amend this response after followup dialogue with Andrew the Great. It turns out the CDC did publish the mask mandate regulation in Feb 2021. This is cited by the court in the decision overturning said mandate. So in common parlance, regulations are generally considered "laws," but technically "laws" require enactment by the legislature. So yes, one could say, there was a "law" as of February 2021, which has been overturned at this point, along with CDC's eviction moratorium, I might add, and OSHA's Emergency Temporary Standard, both rejected by the US Supeme Court.
No, you were right with your first post. A law is passed by a legislature and signed by a president or governor. I've had it with these "emergency orders" passed off as "laws." I post this knowing you are probably right that if I violate some "regulation," I could be thrown into the slammer or made to pay a hefty fine. But they are NOT "laws."
Every flight crew is different. I fly quite a bit and never stopped during 20-21. During that time there were great flight crews and flight crews that were the mask enforcement team. There is no airline better than the other. I flew Southwest, United, American, Delta, Hawaiian and Alaska over the last 2 years. Some flight crews great, some not. Just be ready for anything.
Right but these flight crews that are bad need to realize that they aren't upholding any laws by tyranizing passengers and they are causing me not to pay money to buy tickets on their flights. They acted badly because they can. The airlines know that you don't have many choices and you put up with their shit because you figure you have to. You don't. Unless you're going to a funeral or to a business meeting, consider driving. Believe me, you know how many times the airlines just canceled a flight last minute and didn't even bother to let passengers know or give a shit that they were hung out to dry. These airlines don't deserve your money. If you're going on a vacation, make it a road trip. Spend your airline dollars on awesome hotels and resorts and see America. You won't be disappointed.
I flew to NYC and back from California this weekend. Going there on United I somewhat wore the mask. I don't recall any of the flight attendants saying anything. Flying back last night on Alaska, quite frankly, I did not wear the mask other than hanging from my ear or below my chin. No one said anything. The flight attendants did not seem to care. Much more pleasant! Also, I did not wear a mask on the subway and more and more no one else is and the busy bodies realize that can't say anything.
Thanks for support of the pilots and FA, yes they are done with it. On Twitter the FA's are happy.... Maybe the skies will be a little more friendlier.
It's an interesting case. I'm flying with Southwest on Friday and their mask policy is written like they're saying "it's the law, not our decision":
"Federal law requires each person to wear a mask at all times in the airport and throughout the flight, including during boarding and deplaning. Refusing to wear a mask is a violation of federal law and may result in denial of boarding, removal from the aircraft, and/or penalties under federal law. A properly worn mask completely covers the nose and mouth, is secured to the head, and fits snugly against the side of the face. On the aircraft, if wearing oxygen masks is needed because of loss of cabin pressure or other event affecting aircraft ventilation, masks should be removed to accommodate oxygen masks. For more information on our mask policy, including attributes for acceptable masks, see our FAQ. If you forget your mask or bring one that’s deemed insufficient, a mask will be available for you."
If they are enforcing federal law, that law - as of right now - is not in force. But if it's their own policy they would reserve the right to deplane those who don't comply.
Many of the airlines don't like the mandate because it cuts down on booze sales and irritates flyers. Many of the flight attendants like it because of those two points. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.
It was never federal "law". Federal law is passed by the legislature i.e. Congress. Congress never passed a travel mask mandate. Bureaucrats are not supposed to make laws.
First of all, its a mandate, not a law. Secondly, the mandate never said they have to go around and tyrannize passengers and tell them to wear the masks between sips of water or bites of food. NEVER did the mandate say that -- the airlines took it upon themselves to push the masks, just like the public schools. The public schools are at least part of government, airlines are not. But we continue this charade and people put up with it. I for one have not purchased one dollar of airline tickets since 2019 and I don't intend on starting anytime soon. The airlines must suffer financially. As far as I'm concerned, they should all go bankrupt until they learn that the customer is king and Biden's mandates are complete bullshit.
I’m flying first time in may and was hoping this would happen by then. Airlines badly wanted to get rid of the mandates for at least a year. Maybe people will start behaving better on both sides when they’re less dehumanized.
Tough call but sympathize with you there. The Obama handlers for Biden may push the Dept. of Just Us to immediately file for a stay. No idea how the judge would act but airports/airlines may pretend there is no legal ban. You could be in for quite a fight. Best to be prepared with legal and keep the phone on record the entire time. Good luck!
Where can I find the official order to print off? I'm flying on Thursday and I want to have a few copies ready to pass out. You know, just in case someone "misplaces" one.
Stop being a child. They can't change the rule on board the plane. They are just doing their job. The trick is to pretend to wear it. Look it's going to all be over soon. Don't give the stewardess a hassle. Come on. That being sad. I only wear a mask when forced to. And even then I don't wear it properly. But hassling a stewardess ? Come on.
Like 2 weeks to stop the spread? 90 days to "bring covid to it's knees"? I suppose "soon" is a relative term. But what I think we can all agree on, over two years after we were told 2 weeks is NOT soon. Please understand that the less people do, the more like children we will be treated.
That it is. When is the last time you heard "stewardess"? It's a term I have forgotten and out it pops.... Like when Pepsi tried, again, to roll out crystal clear Pepsi a couple of years ago... You know what it is, but it just doesn't sound right.
This is a reality I hope that we dont go back to more Fauci theories. I am more than sure the Federal courts have their own experts on this Government theory. Hopefully the CDC will release the data from the damages that have been done in all age groups from the wearing of these face mask for some more than 2 years. Like I have said before and will say this again. When wearing a 3M 1870 Mask in a hospital setting and you meet with a patient for the very first time and you can smell the odor of marijuana on the patient. The face mask is basically useless. The CDC NIH never had credible data for more than 25 years they were just pressured from radical groups like the teacher's union. None of the handling was based on medical science it all has been total science fiction. With the dots, plexiglass, one-way isles being home by 10 PM. All of which no one with a straight face will say under oath that any of this was true. Maybe if you are a board member of Twitter who licks the bellies of poisons frogs.
Let's us know if you need Bail money 💰 I don't think Fauci is going to let this slip away. I am on your side no one should be or have been wearing a face mask. Zero benefits for Protection against covid-19.
Come On They don't want to enforce it but they are being forced to. Don't hand them any stupid paper. They are only doing what they are forced to do. Go w the flow. Which means pretend to be wearing it. Like I do. Just barely be wearing it over your nose. Without crimping it around your nose. So the workers won't get fired over this. Come on. They don't want to enforce r it any more than you/we want to wear it.
Blind compliance is how we got here in the first place. Someone needs to do something, or nothing will happen. You don't have to be rude about showing the paper/law, but make it available. Let enough people see that there is a respectful way to disagree.
So sick of this argument . They are just “following orders” … where have we heard that before ?? I fly frequently and they all act like Nazis . Anyone who requires masking between bites and sips is feeling the power . And they repeat the strong arm “mandate” over and over and over again during the flight. Like we don’t know we have to wear the muzzle or get thrown off the flight and banned for life . If every one of those employees refused to wear or enforce the masking there would be nothing the airlines could do . They aren’t gonna fire 100% of their staff . No … there are employees who enjoy the power and then the ones who have bought into the scare tactics .
Not since this started. Before hand I had been to the other side of the globe a few times. But since all of this madness, I've enjoyed driving around this great country instead, and I do not miss the airports one bit. Forces beyond my control (my wife) require me to take a flight on Thursday, as the time it would take to drive to event is not doable in this circumstance. HOWEVER, if sanity returns I will gladly resume flying places. But, again, driving has been a wonderful experience that I do not know I would have had, had all of this nonsense not occurred. Just looking at the positive side. And it's not difficult if look.
I have a short beard. I only have to say a few words or chew something and the mask goes down my face, even while talking to them. I take my time pulling it back up. The hair on my face as I move my mouth causes it to pull right off.
Many flight attendants love the "power" they get from this. You won't get fired for not terrorizing paying customers. That's a pathetic excuse they have sold you....
Not only that, but the flight attendants are not the final say. It's the pilot. And many of them are not addicted to the power. So if you respectfully ask the pilot for their input and he or she says "Nope you're off the flight" then you are no worse off. But if the pilot says "Yeah, that's a little over the top", maybe it will give courage to those FA's who have felt scared to stand up for the passengers rights and comfort for fear of losing their jobs. The time to act is now.
What I don't understand is why the CEOs of the airlines didn't just say "No!" Instead, they wrote a letter to the president asking him to change the rules. Ugh! Note to airline CEOs: The govt is accountable and works for us! Take a stand you damn cowards!
The federal mandate didn't exist in 2020. Yet the very same CEOs required face masks on their planes without the federal mandate. It's more surprising that they want masks dropped now.
Sadly a huge portion of the country is completely brainwashed. Doctors, children, diverse populations in particular. You will never get them to remove the masks. It’s sad. America and the world is forever altered by the evil elites.
Our strange psychology can cause us to become convinced that the mask is protective even when it isn't. I live in a city that had a public mask mandate for quite a while so I wore the silly mask for a while. When I switched to the "fake mask" that was nothing more than mesh, i have to admit that the first time or two, I felt a tiny bit worried. But after nothing happened, I didn't get sick, it was easy to see the nonsense of it all. Most people will go the same path once they remove the mask. A few of the most heavily brainwashed will continue to wear them and that is their decision to make.
I always knew it didn’t work. Because science. If they worked we would have worn them every flu season. The they can convince us to diaper our faces, what else is in the pipeline?
Please please can someone tell me have they removed the Vaxx mandate for foreigners to fly to the USA yet?? I need it gone before the end of this month.
That's right! I completely forgot about that. Just make sure they are on an Abbot bus and not a Biden bus. The Biden busses go to one of the many Soylent Green facilities so Joe can have his milk and cookies each night.
Get a new smart phone too. They say they can use it to track people, but who honestly believes they care about tracking anyone here illegally? It's only those who pay taxes they need to track down and punish. For anything.
You must be fully vaccinated with the primary series of an accepted COVID-19 vaccine to travel to the United States by plane if you are a non-U.S. citizen, non-U.S. immigrant (not a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, lawful permanent resident, or traveling to the United States on an immigrant visa)... unless you are crossing the border illegally, then you're fine.
Hee! Hee! I’m laughing! I live on the border and no truer words were spoken! On the CA/AZ border! And from
What I hear the ‘vaxx cards’ that they issue in Mexico are a total joke! Just printed off a printer on a piece of paper! And I’m sure if you need one to travel (and are not Jabbed), you can get it from your local Cartel office!
Despite the fact that these experimental biologicals are unsafe and 100% ineffective.but hey Biden and his crew just make up whatever it is they want to do despite all the research and data available to them. Anyone else had enough?
We ALL have had enough! The Day to Day BS on the Vaxxes and Boosters is never ending! Now the Federal Government is recommending that people over 60 "get their Booster"! Well I guess they have to get rid of all the "Seniors" who are sucking up Government $$$ at the Social Security Trough, and leaving the Feds with less money to steal!
Cause they won’t acknowledge the evil Russian vaccine 🙄. 35% or so of Ukrainians are vaccinated. The rest isn’t. And they’re not keen on Lauterbach’s vaccine troops.
Yes but the US changed ‘the entry rules’ for foreign travelers. I live on the CA Mexico border in San Diego. I go to a dentist in Tijuana BC (much cheaper than the US). I walk across and take a taxi to my dentist, taxi back to the border, & walk back into the US. I have never seen anyone having to show a proof of vaxx card or status to the immigration people, since the foreign traveler vaxx passport requirement was put in force. They only show a passport & tourist or work visa to enter the US.
The enforcement is only done by the airline. That's your only hurdle. The US immigration does not care and also that counts for the rest of the world regarding testing and whatever other nonsense regarding entry; the airline is the enforcer. One option is to make a fake US vaccine card. The card can be downloaded off the internet as a PDF and is just filled in by hand by a pharmacy. It is white medium weight card stock.
Yes, and your summary fully accounts for some U.K. visitors who came to meet us in March. Unvaccinated & holding negative test results. Nothing was asked either at U.K. airports.
When it was VaxPass or test, on the land border with Mexico, in late December 2021, the border staff didn’t even ask to se any documents, either.
That's a bit of gamble though to hope that the airline in the UK does not ask for it. I can also report that SAS did not ask for anything from a European traveller in December, i.e. either the test or the vaccine doc. The key is to connect to your US bound flight because the most likely checkpoint is going to be at the main check-in of the US bound departure airport, which you avoid by connecting. Out at the gate they are busy with annoying US bound security regulations that are still in place. So Swiss asked for an address, which I think actually could be corona related because my destination (LAX) might have specific rules imposed by the county of LA or state of CA. This is not a requirement for a US citizen. There is also a threat of fine in LA to register on a silly website supposedly for contact tracing; it even applies to domestic travel, I think. Nobody asks or cares about this. Swiss did not ask for my test results or ask for this stupid declaration form that you have to fill out.
p.s. If you want to cheat then obviously prepare docs that are not local to where you a travelling from or something very simple like the US paper card. But never present the US vaccine card to a US official either because they have strict penalties. Or find a doc from an obscure country that preferably is not very advanced with bar codes and so forth, but you can also create bar codes and "program" them. It's quite easy. Someone in the US or the EU is not going to know anything about a vaccine card from Tonga, for example.
The last time I flew to the US in Dec, the airline never checked for the antigen corona test because we were connecting. If I were not US citizen then they would not have checked for vaccination either. They actually asked for an address in the US when I presented the BP at the gate but nothing else.
I don’t think it works. It worked when euro travel ban was in place. But now all foreigners need the vax or else. The airlines won’t let you check in. And to boot you need a negative test 24 h before travel for checkin. Barf.
Officially they should but Frontera Lupita reports that they don't in practice. I think the US border officials do not view at as being their job; they don't do it at the airports.
They check passports and visas (work, tourist) whenever I have crossed over on foot! They always ask what was the purpose of your visit to Mexico (as they assume you are coming in from
Mexico), & what are you bringing in. Asa foreigner. they are going to ask you the purpose of your trip. There are many Expat Europeans who live in Mexico who travel Into the US for whatever reasons. But I would not risk it without checking out what the regulations are for Entry from
Mexico to the US with whatever foreign passport you have.
It is extremely unlikely that the vax requirement for foreign travelers will be lifted under Biden at all. I wouldn't count on it until we get a new President in 2024. Even a court case on that requirement is highly unlikely given that almost nobody has legal standing to challenge it in a US court because it only applies to foreign citizens.
As an unjabbed prisoner of canada, I'm hoping for progress on this congressional bill, The Northern Border Reopening Act. I couldn't care less about being able to fly there these days, as long as I can drive across I'll be happy.
It'd be eventful to see Canada open for unvaxxed foreign travelers before the US does it.. if you do, they I would need to fly to Canada and cross the border to the US that way?
It's a tough call which country will be first to drop border restrictions against the unjabbed. We have emperor king puppet Justy Turd and his ego to deal with here. It probably depends on when his master Klaus gives him permission to take his feet off our necks.
I thought that foreigners could enter with either proof of vax or negative PCR test? It has been several months since I saw this so I could be out of date or just wrong.
Exceptions are people who have a visa coming from some countries where they supposedly don't have a lot of vaxxines, this way they have to sign something saying they will make sure to get the vaxx as soon as possible after arriving to the USA..
It is a joke. I fly a lot for work and pleasure and make sure to be loud and obnoxious when it comes to the mask requirement. I thanked the AA lady for giving me a mask on my last flight as I was afraid of dying without the mask. Most people realize it's humor...except the covidians who need to realize it's a joke, not a dick and not to take it so hard.
A Trump appointee rated unqualified by the ABA whose husband worked on his 2016 campaign, and worked in his administration. The Left is going to love this.
Per National Review: "President Trump’s judicial appointments have earned the ABA’s “Well Qualified” rating at nearly the highest rate in five decades." Not that I give a damn about the ABA and their highly biased approval process.
Wife went to opening day of the local amusement park. Some dad wouldn't let his 4 year old eat at the park because she'd have to take her mask off to do it. Why even go?
I remember early on in the pandemic I was hiking at a park in the Puget Sound area, and as another hiker passed me, he held his breath. When this wasn't happening on trails, people would literally bolt from the sidewalk into traffic because I was unmasked outdoors as if I was more dangerous than an oncoming car. The lunacy with the maskters is staggering.
I was seeing a lot of that early on in the stupid shutdowns. People would hold their masks tighter on their faces, on the side of a windy mountainside.
Then Cuomo shut down the mountainside because too many people were hiking!
These people don't even realize how much they are disconnected from reality..... the reasonable thing to do is not go if you're actually worried about Covid (with a 4 year old no less) but instead they show up at an amusement park with a zillion people and then worry about ineffective safety measures.
I thought that Chief Justice John Roberts made a statement several years ago that there were no "Obama judges" or "Trump judges", just federal judges. Yet the fact that it is a decision of a Trump appointee is part of the lead of every news story? Hmmm.
trump made some great appointments, but putting dr. fauci in charge of covid pandemic was the most beautiful decision he ever made.
will always remember him also, for declaring covid a national emergency and justifying all these EUA vaxx and most importantly choosing mRNA path ... the most beautiful vaxx.
if wasnt not for trump, we will still be stuck on those old fashion vaccine. trump was definitely a visionary.
I was a yuge supporter, but I cannot find fault in your logical irony here. Fauci, Warp Speed, and the Emergency declaration enabled all of this foolishness. And he's still pushing jabs, although he claims to be against mandating them. Then he went and endorsed Dr Oz, the worst of the worst... That said, I think his presidency did interrupt the globalist march toward NWO, if only briefly. We just need to figure out if he's a written-in protagonist in their play, or a black swan. DeSantis/Owens 2024
trump, as Wit's End points out, is asking his supporters to get boosted.
biden has probably no clue, and fauci at al got him scared, trump knows better. dont recall trump ever getting this mRNA vaxx, or his family for that matter. my guess he knows.
Ive been on 20 flights over the past 12 months and have yet to encounter a right leaning flight attendant. I believe they are required to show voter registration during the hiring process
This is great, but hopefully it lasts. I'm watching Philly closely - that is nuts and so angering and glad restaurants are pushing back. I live nowhere near Philly, but hopefully they feel the heat and back down and say this is over, becuase the people have said it's over. Thank you Alex for being the voice of truth and reason through this whole thing. They tried so many times to shut you up, and you're still standing.
I read even the mayor is "distancing" himself, and they managed to tick off the restuaurant assocaition. Utter insanity indeed and hopefully they realize it's time to cash in the chips and masks. You want to wear one fine, but they do nothing and don't force it on other people.
"The court concludes that the mask mandate exceeds the CDC's statutory authority and violates the procedures required for agency rulemaking under the APA," the judge wrote. "Accordingly, the court vacates the mandate and remands it to the CDC."
As I’ve stated before on this Substack, if they push this on us again, I may retire ( already counting down) sooner than planned. If vax mandate re-appears for NYS healthcare worker s, same.
Most embarrassing due to excellent filtration? No, most embarrassing due to masks being absolute theater and having no efficacy the way the public is doing it. There was never a legal definition of face covering and no resources were provided to help the public do it safely and effectively. Instead, literally anything counted as a mask and it was all about being a good person. That people let it go this long has seriously shaken my faith in the future.
Hearing this BLEW up in airports across the land. Statement made, but no doubt the looney tune left will try and re-implement when they can. Remember people what government and what states support such fraudulent use of science when you vote come Nov 22. NEVER forget what these corrupt Government entities and BLUE run cities and states did you you and especially your children! NEVER FORGET!
They dropped all testing requirements recently. We were looking at a tour and were told masks aren’t required unless a particular venue asks for them. It sounds free and open!
Flew cross country last summer. Paid extra to sit in first to see if masking was as strict. Nope. Most flew up front muzzle-free. Like so many other $$$ places/events during the Rona: rules for thee, not for me. It's a scam.
Twitter is freaking out that the judge was. "Trump appointed." That term is trending. Guess the mask fascists can't handle this attack on their religion.
Wait until they find out that the 11th Circuit - the court that this decision would be appealed to - also has several Trump appointed "conservative" judges on it.
We owe decisions like this to Alex's early research and explanations about why masks do not work. He is an incredible person and should be treated as such even though I tend to disagree with him on many issues outside of COVID, Free Speech and Drugs.
"The court concludes that the mask mandate exceeds the CDC's statutory authority and violates the procedures required for agency rulemaking under the APA," the judge wrote. "Accordingly, the court vacates the mandate and remands it to the CDC."
The ruling is the law was bad, it's not a new policy.
It is effective immediately but the airline might still try to enforce it. You can try informing the flight attendants of the ruling so that they understand that there is no current federal regulation requiring masks. How big a fuss to make is up to you.
Wearing a mask at the doctor's office has always been the most embarrassing and ridiculous mandate of all. People who are supposed to know better should know better.
A mandate is not a law...AND the face diaper thing has never been any kind of law. If someone tries to make you wear one, they are technically practicing medicine without a license as a mask is a medical device. Further, those we encounter who pull this crap have no knowledge of your personal health history, so therefore, there is not a soul anywhere who can make us suffocate ourselves. I have been in NUMEROUS fights in the past two years, as I have always refused to wear these stupid things. Whenever I have been challenged, I Have answered with..."well, I am not here to rob you and am not qualified to perform surgery, so therefore, I shall NOT wear a mask..." Good luck to those of you who will be flying. Everyone needs to just NOT comply with any of these stupid "mandates" ever again.....
No, I think it has been law, both airplanes and airports (though I haven't worn a mask in airports (SJU, ORF, BOS, MHT, PWM, BWI) for about the past year). Pretty sure it's a law that Trump signed.
You're right, it was never a law, hence the judge's ruling, which everyone should read. She eviscerates the mandate and it's thin justification. No one had ever ruled on the merits. She's the first, and out it goes. There is a reason the administration signaled to airlines and Amtrak today it's not fighting the ruling.
So what's everyone's explanation why it took more than a year for thin justification to be eviscerated? This ruling of hers was JUST as valid and apt in February 2021. But it took 14 months to see the light of day? Why didn't whatever precipitated this ruling take place in March 2021?
Pretty sure I looked into this because I was certain it was only a mandate, not a law, and I was surprised to find out it was a law. Now, the law may only apply to airports, not airplanes. It *may* be that the airplane thing is a mandate but I’m almost dead-sure that the airport thing is a law.
Look again, and show it to me. There is no law about this face mask thing. A business may try to make you wear one but the same argument applies...they cannot prescribe a medical device to me, you, or anyone unless they are that person's physician. The masks violate religious, and many health situations, and cannot be forced upon anyone. The whole issue went off the rails when folks began wearing them "just because". What's next....making someone shop nude, or wear only red, or some other color to work or enter an establishment. A mandate is only binding if/when one participates. I do not and have never chosen to participate. It is a mandate, not a law. Full stop.
I went looking, and couldn't find whatever it was that I found back then that told me it was actually law. So it's entirely possible - probable, even - that whatever I found was mistaken, or, that I misremembered the situation. I cannot find support for my assertion, so I shall vacate my assertion.
And the reason this resonates with me is because I can almost remember where I was standing when I saw a sign on an airport door that made reference to a “law“ and I was sure that that sign was wrong and so I looked into it and I found out I was wrong. And that Trump signed the law and that it was the Norfolk Virginia airport that prompted my looking into it.
I think the key here is that you "almost remember." There is no law or regulation on mask mandates. It is purely a creature of the CDC's shifting policies, no matter what the airlines say. The airlines are/were trying to force compliance by calling it a "law." They are probably worried about liability if someone gets Covid after flying on their planes when they did not enforce masks, based on the common misconception that they do prevent the spread. Anymore these days, however, with all the shedding from the vaxed, it might not hurt to wear a mask anyway.
No, I remember explicitly researching it. I remember the particular airport door where I saw the sign - Southwest, at ORF - that pissed me off, because it used the word "law" and I was dead-sure it was only a mandate, and that TSA or the airport was lying to us to get us to comply with something that wasn't a law by calling it a law.
So I researched it, because (it was back when I was still on FB, in 2020) I had made a number of comments to the effect that it was not a law, it was only a mandate, and when I researched it I was very surprised to find out that it was in fact a law signed by none other than Trump.
I remember all that. It's very specific. It's not "oh, I remember looking something up". No, my recollection has specific details that would not exist if it were just a figment of my "almost" remembering. I mean, I can see the sign on the window at Southwest's entrance at ORF. It's that specific.
So I'm now dumbfounded about all that, because I cannot find whatever it was that I found in late 2020 that convinced me that it was in fact a law, contrary to what I had thought all along.
Now, maybe whatever source I found back then incorrectly called it a "law" and incorrectly said that it was signed by Trump, that much I don't recall. I don't recall the specific source or its language, but I would've "final answered" on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, on the million-dollar question, and without using any of my lifelines, that Trump signed the law requiring masks in airports.
That's how sure I was about everything that led up to me "remembering" that it was a law signed by Trump.
It's not a law. It was a CDC mandate based on a flimsy interpretation of a law authorizing the CDC to require sanitation - which the judge eviscerated today in her ruling.
Biden admin will fight this to the bitter end and blame racism for massive losses in November. This was never about health and everything about compliance. This is the beginning of the end of this stupid mandate.
Actually it looks like they're not going to fight it. Airlines asked today (which is why there was a two hour period of uncertainty) and they all lifted it after being told there was no appeal coming, at least for now.
Another judge would have to hear a new case from different, but equal, jurisdiction, and decide differently. Then the next court will have to take it up on appeal.
It was not immediately clear whether the Justice Department would appeal her order. If so, it could ask the judge or an appeals court to stay her order so that the C.D.C. could continue to enforce it while the matter undergoes further litigation.
I don't think the admin is going to fight it. It ends May 3rd. They may have wanted this, in a way, to give them an excuse. There's a reason there was a delay today until the airlines all caved and said no mandate. Same thing for Amtrak.
I wonder if this might actually be beneficial to the Biden administration since the extension was only until May 3. Maybe they prefer ending the mandate this way vs having to make the decision themselves.
Im on a flight tomorrow and have every intention of printing the Judges Order and handing it to the flight attendant when she/he starts the bullshit speech about masks!
Just so you know, the flight attendant's / pilots have been awesome about this. I took a flight just recently, wore the mask for a grand total of 10 minutes on the 5.5 hour flight. No one said anything. They are just as done with it as we are.
I'm glad you've had a good experience. Literally every one of my friends that fly regularly have been tyrannized by flight attendants about masking on every single flight they take.
That has been my experience. There are those bossy boss people who loved being able to tell us how to Quickly replace the mask after a sip and a nibble. As they cram us in the seats. What ever will they do now?
Low status/low quality people loved the mandates, as it normalized their neurosis and gave them a sense of superiority that their competence and reasoning abilities will never afford them. It also justified their a-hole personalities, they could rudely share their crap opinion with you because they were being noble in seeking your own good.
Known Fact - People who can't control themselves (and their own lives) try to control others
I’ve always said that liberals have no self control
Outstanding comment and, spot on!!!! because it’s 100% true. I couldn’t agree more with you my friend.
I've dealt with people who have issues of control for more than I wish to admit - the one common denominator they all share is their own lives are completely out of control hence the need to control everyone else.
Funny story okay?
I've a friend whose a massive control freak - I just stay outside when I visit. She's so out of control she has camera's in the house so that when her own mother and or mother in law babysit (occasionally) she can watch everything they do. One day she left explicit directions (with her own mother mind you) what clothes she wanted her son to wear and immediately called her when she noticed he was NOT wearing his green shirt!!! Her mother replied - that's ok, I told him it was his green shirt!
Ya just gotta ignore them!!
So true ! I noticed the same thing !! Well put .
Well stated! So true!!!
Perfectly stated!
Stated perfectly!!
Also people who do not read or study; intellectually lazy people. Sadly that includes many public school teachers.
You just described liberalism in a short paragraph.
Well said, well spoken!
A bully will always be a bully.
And there's really only one way to deal with a bully.
Yup---tell them to shut the fuck up ---or there'll be consequences.
I thought it was punch them in the nose. 😂
Morons with power
The attendant on my SW flight last week sanctimoniously mask-preached at every opportunity. When she walked by my seat, I could see she was wearing a see-through, mesh mask . . .
Generally, attendants are low paid, leftist, semi-intelligent, odd sexuality, freaks. The good news? They rarely reproduce, and when they do, this Catholic does not mind that they abort it. I hate Leftists.
That's horrible. You do not represent the Catholic faith, nor do you resemble any sort of Christian with that remark.
There was a time, the Church had an immune system, and fought back. YOU, do not resemble a Christian, in your lack of opposition to evil.
Jeez. That seems rather harsh. Pretty sure your God has a special place in hell for people like you. Hate is never the answer.
You are just unaccustomed to strong, non-degenerate men. Nature hates weakness, and God created nature. We will see who ends up in Hell.
My! What an ethical person you must be. Are you sure you aren’t a leftist with your conditional morality?
My morals and ethics have remained inviolate for many years, but Leftists and their Bolshevik/Rothschildean handlers have brought me to the brink of annihilation, and self-defense. And while I am steadfastly anti-abortion, my HATRED of Leftists (really self-preservation of my race) leads me to believe any method of their expulsion works. Hail victory, Hasbarite.
You are not a Catholic when you speak your mind this way.
My first Substack troll sighting!
It takes highly focalized messages, to pierce the adamantium biofilms that conflate a man of action and truth, with little creatures under a bridge. Time grows short, war is coming, we need to name the enemy.
From one Catholic/Christian to another, this is a terrible thing to say. Its self righteous and hateful. Jesus would never talk this way. This is the kind of comment that gives Catholics a bad name.
WEAKNESS and infiltration by the Synagogue of Satan and the Jesuits, give us a bad name. Was a time, we fought like poet warriors, and Jesus smiled. He never said "be passive, fat, eat Doritos, click your remotes as you watch NOGball, and all will be well."
I've heard a mix. It's why I've refused to fly ever since the mask mandates came down. I just won't do it.
Not related to COVID, but prescient in that it has to do with the tyranny of a flight attendant...
We were flying from Chicago to St Louis with our daughter who was sick at the time. It just so happened to be her second birthday. Being sick, she wanted us to hold her constantly. Now you should know that my daughter, when she was little, could probably scream louder than any kid I've ever seen in my life- high pitched, siren like screams that if they would continue long enough, it would drive even the most sane person mad.
The flight attendant, who was obviously very new at her job considering how nervous she seemed to be at times and how young she was, came down the aisle and said to my wife, "She's adorable.... How old is she?"
I jumped in and said, "She's almost two."
You see, we had purchased a seat for her because the rule was two and over needed to have a paid seat. But the rule was also the two and over had to be strapped in that seat during takeoff and landing. And I knew that wasn't going to fly, pun intend. But my sweet, and overly honest wife, said, "No... Today is her 2nd birthday."
Uhg!
So you know what happened.."well she will need to be in her seat. We are ready to taxi to the runway for takeoff."
I tried to warn the girl. I explained to her that our daughter was sick and that if we made her sit in that seat not a soul was going to have any peace on that flight. It didn't matter. A rule is a rule!
So as she's up there giving all the instructions to the passengers about safety and what to do in an emergency, no one could hear a word.
Your poor little girl! I feel badly for this--and for the passengers who had to listen.
BUT, I hope she annoyed the idiot flight attendant who forced this problem.
Funny you should say that! She was thoroughly annoyed. In fact, we held her during landing and the attendant acted like she didn't even see us.
I even asked the young woman, "So if we flew yesterday, we could have held her and it would be fine, but its 24 hours later and holding her is now unsafe?"
HER: "It is an FAA regulation for a reason. Sir."
I knew that, but it's also kind of ridiculous. They base it on age. Why not weight.... wouldn't that make more sense if its for the kid's safety?
Our daughter was an adoption. She had just had heart surgery and we were flying home. She was very tiny due to her condition (all of 19 pounds at 2 years old!) There are very few 2 year old American children who weigh in at less than 20lbs. I was surprised she even asked her age. I suspect it was because when we boarded we showed her three boarding passes, which surely clued her in. But parents of toddlers will often buy an extra seat on flights.
"It's an FAA regulation for a reason."
Right. The reason is BECAUSE THEY CAN DO IT.
Throughout this entire spectacle I've heard the airport announcements..."Federal law requires..."
There is NO FEDERAL LAW. Congress enacted NO legislation.
As for your little girl: Surgery? Then nonsense from a flight attendant? I think she's been through ENOUGH.
The world would be far better off if all SJs were denied positions of any power. But there are too many of them, sadly.
Too many SJWs or too many position of power? I'd argue FAR too many of both.
There are too many examples of boldly neglectful leadership set by Joe, Kamala and everyone touching their mis-administration. Increasingly, Joe's criminal past saps his ability to lead. If he doesn't step down soon, we are overdue for the U.S.A's first junta with faithful Gen. Milley leading the parade!
Funny story, too bad for the poor people on the flight, haha My granddaughter has a high pitched scream that can wake the dead. I've never heard anything like it, so I can relate!
Please don't fly with sick children. It's miserable for them, not to mention everyone else.
FYI... it wasn't a sickness in the "she caught a virus and is feverish". She was sick from a serious heart condition and had just went through major surgery... and we were flying home. She was on numerous post surgery medications and we had to take great care during recovery. Getting home as quickly as possible was imperative. But next time one of my kids has a congenital heart defect and needs open heart surgery in another city equipped and specializing in the procedure, I'll be sure to drive so you can relax. Thanks for the tip.
It was a simple choice... hold her and she was fine and everyone can relax. Not holding her after such trauma and she was scared and confused... and screaming.
You are touchy and defensive. Wonder why?
That was mean. Go to your room and think about it.
Common Sense is not so common.
True. And being a presumptuous asshole is all too common.
What was the out-come? “The, Curtain-Call”?? “Final Scene???”
Finally, there is "the resolution, also known as the denouement", which is the end of the play, where everything comes together and the situation has been resolved, leaving the audience satisfied with the play as a whole.
So, what was the juicy “resolution????” For you and your family, and that adorable sweet precious little girl of yours??
We landed safely and the flight attendant allowed us to hold her... and while holding her she was as quiet as a lamb.
As for her surgery, she made a full recovery and is now a teenager. We formerly had to see a pediatric cardiologist on a regular basis just to keep tabs on things. Last time we went was about 18 months ago. After listening to her heart the doctor said, "It would be very difficult for any cardiologist to notice any difference between her heart and any other in a child her age."
She is healthy and happy and doesn't even recall those touch and go moments when she was at death's door.
😢
I spend a great deal of time on airplanes and I can concur with your friends' assessments. A lot of flight attendants seem to relish wielding the power the mandate gives them.
Gave them.
Most of crews I've experienced haven't cared. We've flown with our kids around 10 times since 2020 and we've only had one Adolph Karen say something about a 5yo and 7yo not wearing masks.
I'm currently writing this in the airport and I'm gonna try to board with no mask.
Adolph Karen... LOL
I hope to God they leave you alone simply by ignoring you, with that smug look 👀 So many of them have. If I didn’t know better I would swear they teach that at the school that each one of them has to go to……..
GOOD LUCK!
Let us know if they leave you alone!
That's been my experience, including Southwest, which has otherwise been a good experience in all other respects. When it comes to masks? They've enforced it.
EXACTLY!!!
Same. Flight attendants have been absolutely tyrannical about masks. I think they sooo enjoyed the power trip they were on. Now they can just go back to taking drink orders & slinging hash in the galley.
I think the flight attendants have forgotten who the customer is and who pays all the bills -- we do. They think, like Hollywood and the mainstream media and academia and public education, that they don't need us. They think that they don't need our permission or our approval but yes, they do need our permission and our approval. I haven't flown on a plane and I don't intend to unless I absolutely have to. I will not be PCR tested, I will not show vaxx papers (I don't have any), and I won't wear a mask. My money will stay in my wallet until those three things are off the table. Let the flight industry suffer a little more.
Mass Psychosis Formation will be Permanent in a lot of People,Unfortunately.
I fear they'll use such a diagnosis as a reason to claim disability payments.
Exactly!!
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Me Too!, just flew from Knoxville Tennessee through Atlanta to San Francisco almost never had the mask on Maybe a few minutes, everyone out there you never have to wear your mask in the airport, there are no mask police. You have to play the game going through TSA and then getting on the plane but never in the airport. Hopefully this new ruling will stop the bullshit.
United was mask crazy and Lufthansa was chill.
Wow, Sep 21 we had the opposite experience. The purser was Ilse the She Wolf from the SS. I guess it depends on the person. We (my family) even had our own mini-cabin in business class and they were hasling us. The purser suddenly barged in while I was eating dinner and threw an insane tantrum because I was eating too slowly and threatened arrest on arrival in Munich. An Italian FA tried to be nice to us for the rest of the trip. I have put LH on my boycott list forever.
...because "everybody" in Germany has covid now or did recently?
Germany is one of the most Branch Covidian countries in the world. The old Axis, Germany, Austria and Italy are the worst. In Bavaria they had outdoor FFP2 (N95) mandates for months. The crazy FAs on my flight were raging about the US being a high risk country so extra precautions must be taken! The plane was very empty because the US ban from the EU was still in effect. Later my return on Swiss from ZRH was very pleasant with no mask enforcement at least in business class. Swiss is part of LH group, so on the fence if I will boycott them in the future.
In 2018, my wife and I had to board a Lufthansa in Brussels for our leg to Dulles. From the terminal, they crammed us into a tiny bus with no July air-conditioning or windows.
The driver was boxed off with his own A.C. I was ready to tear the doors off! Instead, I led passengers in a protest song ("Oh Lufthansa, Oh Lufthansa, wo ist dein luft?" set to "Oh, Tannenbaum.") which took my mind off the asphyxiation. Once settled in Economy, my back encountered a seat that was curved like an eggshell. I found no rest. I spent the rest of the trip pacing the cabin from front to back. Can I sue them for war crimes?
You were fortunate! You’re flight was the exception and not the rule!
Since covid began I flew once a year ago and Southwest had always been one of my favorite airlines....that ended with that flight. They were terrible regarding masks! Constant recordings playing telling people to wear their masks properly, completely over their noses. Only water served while reminding passengers insistently to keep their masks on between sip and bites. I felt like I was being indoctrinated into some kind of mask cult. Flight attendents walked around reminding passengers to pull their masks up over their noses....it was terrible and non-stop.
I have traveled to Jamaica almost every year for the last 20....since covid....not once. This year we drove to Florida....much more enjoyable. Airlines have a lot of work to do to win back the public. I realize its not all employees but I hope next time, as there will be a next time, the citizens of this country stand together and strong by not allowing fear and illegal actions to take our common sense and freedom from us. Learn the lessons....stand together and strong America!
my spouse had a non-covid SW Airlines encounter so negative within the past 18 months, that he refuses to fly that airline again, an attitude rare for him (so it was bad)
I have grudge against the airlines, Trader Joes, Disney, and many others. Also, I have a newfound hatred for big cities like NYC, Philly, Miami, Baltimore, and other places that upheld mask mandates far too long. Believe me, no one in rural texas or oklahoma was wearing a mask this entire time. And South Dakota never had a lockdown or mask mandate ever. The whole thing was BS from the start and mark my words, this mask thing is coming back. Wait 'til the flu season comes back this upcoming winter.
my MIL lives in Wichita Falls (far North Central TX) so I know of what you speak
I'm in NYC. Most people here think that everyone between NYC and LA is stupid. There are plenty of stupid people here and there are plenty of brilliant people in the South. Most of these big cities are entirely overrated. If people could get over getting their vacation spoonfed to them via some bus tour of Times Square and actually go fishing or hiking or hunting or ATV ridin', they'd have an awesome time in North Central Texas, or Rural Oklahoma or South Dakota or Wyoming. And what's the best way to get to these places and see America: the car and the roadtrip!
Yes, I totally agree with you! The lack of charity or empathy and the enjoyment of tyranny is one of the the most shocking and disturbing aspects of this whole COVID scam! We are driving 18 hours rather than go near an airport this week- not looking forward to it but we just couldn't face it again. Things are looking up!!
Don't look at it that way. Enjoy the journey. I have learned to love roadtrips.
Too physically demanding for us old folks anymore, sadly. We used to love them!
What's interesting is that during Stalin's rule, it was noted that people would cheer and show incredible enthusiasm while Stalin came through town. Stalin never asked for people to show that much obedience and zeal about his rule. Likewise, the CDC and Biden never asked the airlines to tell people to wear the mask between bites of food or sips of water -- the airlines took it upon themselves to go from stupid to full-retard with respect to the mask mandate. It will take me a long time to forgive the airlines. And yes, I started taking road trips and I love them. I have seen so much of America and I actually enjoy my roadtrips more than I ever enjoyed flying. I have met the most awesome people in Panama City FL or Little Rock, AK or Gumby, TX. The airlines don't deserve my money and they don't deserve yours either.
Depends on the flight, we have been threatened to be thrown off for not pulling them back up after a sip of a drink, still a few little Nazi’s out there sadly.
Yep, I heard of such stories and therefore I refused to give the airlines one cent of my money during this entire scamdemic. We have the power... the power is in withholding payment and not purchasing their services. Don't fly. You'd be surprised how efficient and convenient driving is. I understand sometimes you might have to fly (for a funeral or work or something) but if you have a choice and you probably do, drive. It's awesome!!!
Same here. I absolutely REFUSED to enable some FA to experience a full-blown “ego trip” at my expense! The mere THOUGHT of me being victimized in that way sent chills down my spine (overly dramatic, I admit😀)
NOW I will FINALLY be able to visit my grandchildren!
Hitler, was anti-vaccine mandates. Matter of fact, the tribe behind the convid BS only won because Amerika helped Stalin. We fought on the wrong side of that conflict.
The Scamdemic resembles the Vietnam War.
I've heard that the originating location (red or blue state) of your flight crew can really make a difference with the level of petty tyrant you encounter.
The next Civil War will be for all the RIGHT reasons!
Patiently waiting for WWIII. YAY
Nearly every doctor's office I've been to these last few months- and there have been many- the staff and most of the professionals are over it as well. Unfortunately, they have to follow their corporate or landlords' rules.
Not in the Bay Area. They’re the holier than thou triple vaccinated n95 wearers and superior vax enforcers.
It's so sad, because right over the border in Nevada, it's like a different world. So glad we got out last fall.
Just a rumor, but I heard the Xi worshiping Left Coast/Silly Valley crowd might be the first to get a hypersonic missile proof of concept from China or Russia. The only sad part of that, Facebook may not complete their Metaverse. I know. I know. Stop sobbing...
Though I think the probability of such an attack is small, I certainly agree on the targetting choice. In the absence of such an attack I think the libtards will soon be extinct through self poisoning with multiple covid jabs and circular firing squad cancel culture attacks upon their own.
Absolutely within the realm of possibilities, but I suggest we nudge them and the other Leftist lemmings to jump a bit faster! :-)
Last November, I went to my medicare Doc. My only reason was to get my D3 levels checked. Tests said that I am at 74 ng/ml, then the second said 75 ng/ml. The office intake person was supremely bored when I said I was never vaxxxed. I got zero reaction from her. I live in one of the most liberal FL counties.
I'm jealous. I live in liberal NYC and these people are the biggest bunch of covid retards here.
Took my daughter to an orthodontist appointment last week. Staff wore masks, receptionist had it under her nose and every teen that walked in for their appointment were Unmasked. Not a peep from anyone so I took mine off too. I met with the doctor and his assistant as they examined my daughter’s teeth. No one said a word to me about my full facial nudity! The doctor is Mormon…not sure if that makes a difference.
SO good to read
And this is in Southwest Washington where they love their masks!
That’s awesome!
You are lucky. My doctor is fine with my wearing my mask, even during my annual physicals (that at one time, she used to take the time to look inside my mouth at my gums--for heart disease signs). Even when I said to her that my teeth and gums could be rotten underneath my mask, she declined to look underneath at my mouth health. Lost a little respect for her because of this.
That happened to me in 2020. My GP said she would leave the mouth exams to our dentists. She wore disposable scrubs, booties, hat, gloves and two masks. That was the last time I was there.
I'm very disappointed in the medical establishment as well. They have been toeing the line with the CDC and haven't spoken out about the futility of masks, the risks of the vaxx, and the fact that covid really is a minor threat to the vast majority of people. I understand that many doctors truly believe in MTV (masks, tests, and vaxx) but there have to be many others that have stood silent and allowed society to be tyrannized by these draconian, arbitrary, and useless rules.
Good grief. Good riddance for you.
Yup. I work in healthcare and it sucks butt royally.
You comment is not what most people across America, including myself have witnessed or lived through. The power of telling people what to do grew with the Flight crews over the past 2 years.
Understood, I was pointing out that times may be changing. I fly regularly, and have throughout the scamdemic. I went out of my way to thank the Alaska crew when I deplaned.
Fatcat Pleb You were very fortunate to be on a flight where the flight attendants had a relaxed attitude about mask adherence. I fly frequently and know that your experience was a rarity.
Depends where you’re flying to/from sometimes. I’ve had to deal with some real Karen’s a few times.
NY Laguardia is always bad (shocking right) and Atlanta crews on Delta enjoy doing the minimum (especially in first class) that they can get away with and use that time to police the isles.
It probably maybe depends on the particular crew members but in my Delta ATL flight last December we got a massive lecture from the "stewardess" about how it is "against the law" not to wear a mask and threatening us with prosecution if we violate that "law." Of course, there has never been a "law" on this ever, and may it ever be so.
Well, I need to amend this response after followup dialogue with Andrew the Great. It turns out the CDC did publish the mask mandate regulation in Feb 2021. This is cited by the court in the decision overturning said mandate. So in common parlance, regulations are generally considered "laws," but technically "laws" require enactment by the legislature. So yes, one could say, there was a "law" as of February 2021, which has been overturned at this point, along with CDC's eviction moratorium, I might add, and OSHA's Emergency Temporary Standard, both rejected by the US Supeme Court.
No, you were right with your first post. A law is passed by a legislature and signed by a president or governor. I've had it with these "emergency orders" passed off as "laws." I post this knowing you are probably right that if I violate some "regulation," I could be thrown into the slammer or made to pay a hefty fine. But they are NOT "laws."
Every flight crew is different. I fly quite a bit and never stopped during 20-21. During that time there were great flight crews and flight crews that were the mask enforcement team. There is no airline better than the other. I flew Southwest, United, American, Delta, Hawaiian and Alaska over the last 2 years. Some flight crews great, some not. Just be ready for anything.
Right but these flight crews that are bad need to realize that they aren't upholding any laws by tyranizing passengers and they are causing me not to pay money to buy tickets on their flights. They acted badly because they can. The airlines know that you don't have many choices and you put up with their shit because you figure you have to. You don't. Unless you're going to a funeral or to a business meeting, consider driving. Believe me, you know how many times the airlines just canceled a flight last minute and didn't even bother to let passengers know or give a shit that they were hung out to dry. These airlines don't deserve your money. If you're going on a vacation, make it a road trip. Spend your airline dollars on awesome hotels and resorts and see America. You won't be disappointed.
I flew to NYC and back from California this weekend. Going there on United I somewhat wore the mask. I don't recall any of the flight attendants saying anything. Flying back last night on Alaska, quite frankly, I did not wear the mask other than hanging from my ear or below my chin. No one said anything. The flight attendants did not seem to care. Much more pleasant! Also, I did not wear a mask on the subway and more and more no one else is and the busy bodies realize that can't say anything.
Not all of them....flight dependent. My United flight out to DC last weekend was horrible, the flight back was much less restrictive.
Thanks for support of the pilots and FA, yes they are done with it. On Twitter the FA's are happy.... Maybe the skies will be a little more friendlier.
True. They're absolutely relieved.
I fly all the time. It’s been much less of a problem recently but some crews are better or worse
Yes! Let us know how it goes!
It will be on video!
lol Right on! Go getem!
Dude. You rock!! 👊🏻
It's an interesting case. I'm flying with Southwest on Friday and their mask policy is written like they're saying "it's the law, not our decision":
"Federal law requires each person to wear a mask at all times in the airport and throughout the flight, including during boarding and deplaning. Refusing to wear a mask is a violation of federal law and may result in denial of boarding, removal from the aircraft, and/or penalties under federal law. A properly worn mask completely covers the nose and mouth, is secured to the head, and fits snugly against the side of the face. On the aircraft, if wearing oxygen masks is needed because of loss of cabin pressure or other event affecting aircraft ventilation, masks should be removed to accommodate oxygen masks. For more information on our mask policy, including attributes for acceptable masks, see our FAQ. If you forget your mask or bring one that’s deemed insufficient, a mask will be available for you."
If they are enforcing federal law, that law - as of right now - is not in force. But if it's their own policy they would reserve the right to deplane those who don't comply.
Many of the airlines don't like the mandate because it cuts down on booze sales and irritates flyers. Many of the flight attendants like it because of those two points. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.
Only they are technically wrong - no such law exists.
Correct it was a King POS Biden mandate , no law
Sure, they should call it 'CDC regulation'. But the average traveler won't know the difference.
It was never federal "law". Federal law is passed by the legislature i.e. Congress. Congress never passed a travel mask mandate. Bureaucrats are not supposed to make laws.
Good point. It was a CDC order, not a federal law.
First of all, its a mandate, not a law. Secondly, the mandate never said they have to go around and tyrannize passengers and tell them to wear the masks between sips of water or bites of food. NEVER did the mandate say that -- the airlines took it upon themselves to push the masks, just like the public schools. The public schools are at least part of government, airlines are not. But we continue this charade and people put up with it. I for one have not purchased one dollar of airline tickets since 2019 and I don't intend on starting anytime soon. The airlines must suffer financially. As far as I'm concerned, they should all go bankrupt until they learn that the customer is king and Biden's mandates are complete bullshit.
Yes, fair point - it was CDC.
They can still throw you out (for arguing with flight attendant (hopefully you don't run into a libtard)
yep, quite a few of those in flight attendants who'll cop an attitude quicker than you wish to witness.
I’m flying first time in may and was hoping this would happen by then. Airlines badly wanted to get rid of the mandates for at least a year. Maybe people will start behaving better on both sides when they’re less dehumanized.
Maybe the airline companies want to get rid of the mask mandate. But I've dealt with a few flight attendants who seem just fine with it.
Tough call but sympathize with you there. The Obama handlers for Biden may push the Dept. of Just Us to immediately file for a stay. No idea how the judge would act but airports/airlines may pretend there is no legal ban. You could be in for quite a fight. Best to be prepared with legal and keep the phone on record the entire time. Good luck!
Where can I find the official order to print off? I'm flying on Thursday and I want to have a few copies ready to pass out. You know, just in case someone "misplaces" one.
Stop being a child. They can't change the rule on board the plane. They are just doing their job. The trick is to pretend to wear it. Look it's going to all be over soon. Don't give the stewardess a hassle. Come on. That being sad. I only wear a mask when forced to. And even then I don't wear it properly. But hassling a stewardess ? Come on.
Like 2 weeks to stop the spread? 90 days to "bring covid to it's knees"? I suppose "soon" is a relative term. But what I think we can all agree on, over two years after we were told 2 weeks is NOT soon. Please understand that the less people do, the more like children we will be treated.
The job title is Flight Attendant. Join the 21st century.
That it is. When is the last time you heard "stewardess"? It's a term I have forgotten and out it pops.... Like when Pepsi tried, again, to roll out crystal clear Pepsi a couple of years ago... You know what it is, but it just doesn't sound right.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21636220-047124235804
Thank you
They just announced 450pm on Monday it is effective immediately. Biden chose not to challenge
I guess LIBTARDS are sensing what's coming in November
Just saw a video on TV: Inside a flight that's in the air now, passengers erupted in cheers when the pilot announced the mask mandate was lifted.
If the med tyrants challenge this, I think there will be a mob with torches & pitchforks.
This is a reality I hope that we dont go back to more Fauci theories. I am more than sure the Federal courts have their own experts on this Government theory. Hopefully the CDC will release the data from the damages that have been done in all age groups from the wearing of these face mask for some more than 2 years. Like I have said before and will say this again. When wearing a 3M 1870 Mask in a hospital setting and you meet with a patient for the very first time and you can smell the odor of marijuana on the patient. The face mask is basically useless. The CDC NIH never had credible data for more than 25 years they were just pressured from radical groups like the teacher's union. None of the handling was based on medical science it all has been total science fiction. With the dots, plexiglass, one-way isles being home by 10 PM. All of which no one with a straight face will say under oath that any of this was true. Maybe if you are a board member of Twitter who licks the bellies of poisons frogs.
Let's hope he doesn't challenge.
Let's us know if you need Bail money 💰 I don't think Fauci is going to let this slip away. I am on your side no one should be or have been wearing a face mask. Zero benefits for Protection against covid-19.
Can’t wait to see if they try to make me wear one when my kid graduates.
Good idea !
let us know how it goes
Wait. See if the federal medical tyrants appeal it.
Come On They don't want to enforce it but they are being forced to. Don't hand them any stupid paper. They are only doing what they are forced to do. Go w the flow. Which means pretend to be wearing it. Like I do. Just barely be wearing it over your nose. Without crimping it around your nose. So the workers won't get fired over this. Come on. They don't want to enforce r it any more than you/we want to wear it.
Blind compliance is how we got here in the first place. Someone needs to do something, or nothing will happen. You don't have to be rude about showing the paper/law, but make it available. Let enough people see that there is a respectful way to disagree.
So sick of this argument . They are just “following orders” … where have we heard that before ?? I fly frequently and they all act like Nazis . Anyone who requires masking between bites and sips is feeling the power . And they repeat the strong arm “mandate” over and over and over again during the flight. Like we don’t know we have to wear the muzzle or get thrown off the flight and banned for life . If every one of those employees refused to wear or enforce the masking there would be nothing the airlines could do . They aren’t gonna fire 100% of their staff . No … there are employees who enjoy the power and then the ones who have bought into the scare tactics .
You apparently don’t fly often or hang in airports waiting hours for a flight ! Many Karen’s on board!
Not since this started. Before hand I had been to the other side of the globe a few times. But since all of this madness, I've enjoyed driving around this great country instead, and I do not miss the airports one bit. Forces beyond my control (my wife) require me to take a flight on Thursday, as the time it would take to drive to event is not doable in this circumstance. HOWEVER, if sanity returns I will gladly resume flying places. But, again, driving has been a wonderful experience that I do not know I would have had, had all of this nonsense not occurred. Just looking at the positive side. And it's not difficult if look.
I have a short beard. I only have to say a few words or chew something and the mask goes down my face, even while talking to them. I take my time pulling it back up. The hair on my face as I move my mouth causes it to pull right off.
Shows how well the darn thing works.
Many flight attendants love the "power" they get from this. You won't get fired for not terrorizing paying customers. That's a pathetic excuse they have sold you....
Not only that, but the flight attendants are not the final say. It's the pilot. And many of them are not addicted to the power. So if you respectfully ask the pilot for their input and he or she says "Nope you're off the flight" then you are no worse off. But if the pilot says "Yeah, that's a little over the top", maybe it will give courage to those FA's who have felt scared to stand up for the passengers rights and comfort for fear of losing their jobs. The time to act is now.
Please tape the idiots, post on Rumble, and then share the link with us!
Same
I'd only do this if a) you didn't want to fly again in a while on that airline b) were good with the local cops escorting you off the plane
But, the video would be awesome seeing someone who's up for the adventure.
Why would those things happen? Doesn't this mean that the mandate is no longer in force?
I'm game to be banned from an airline or two.
What I don't understand is why the CEOs of the airlines didn't just say "No!" Instead, they wrote a letter to the president asking him to change the rules. Ugh! Note to airline CEOs: The govt is accountable and works for us! Take a stand you damn cowards!
Bailout money?
The airline cartel is indistinguishable from the federal government. The "customer" is merely chattle to be abused.
The federal mandate didn't exist in 2020. Yet the very same CEOs required face masks on their planes without the federal mandate. It's more surprising that they want masks dropped now.
Loss of alcohol sales.
LONG over due!
Sadly a huge portion of the country is completely brainwashed. Doctors, children, diverse populations in particular. You will never get them to remove the masks. It’s sad. America and the world is forever altered by the evil elites.
Our strange psychology can cause us to become convinced that the mask is protective even when it isn't. I live in a city that had a public mask mandate for quite a while so I wore the silly mask for a while. When I switched to the "fake mask" that was nothing more than mesh, i have to admit that the first time or two, I felt a tiny bit worried. But after nothing happened, I didn't get sick, it was easy to see the nonsense of it all. Most people will go the same path once they remove the mask. A few of the most heavily brainwashed will continue to wear them and that is their decision to make.
I always knew it didn’t work. Because science. If they worked we would have worn them every flu season. The they can convince us to diaper our faces, what else is in the pipeline?
Leftists on ABC are calling out that judge was appointed by Trump and are completely silent on The Science™.
Science doesn’t exist in America anymore. No such thing. Just ask most of the doctors who bought in.
Please please can someone tell me have they removed the Vaxx mandate for foreigners to fly to the USA yet?? I need it gone before the end of this month.
let me be 1,000,001 of the times you've heard this. : -) Just have them fly to Mexico and walk in.
And you get a free swag bag and bus to DC. Better than a bag of peanuts and a jab.
That's right! I completely forgot about that. Just make sure they are on an Abbot bus and not a Biden bus. The Biden busses go to one of the many Soylent Green facilities so Joe can have his milk and cookies each night.
Head to Chicago for free medical bennies, but duck when you get off the bus.
Get a new smart phone too. They say they can use it to track people, but who honestly believes they care about tracking anyone here illegally? It's only those who pay taxes they need to track down and punish. For anything.
They need to broadcast voting instructions to everyone. Or tell people where to go for voting instructions.
You must be fully vaccinated with the primary series of an accepted COVID-19 vaccine to travel to the United States by plane if you are a non-U.S. citizen, non-U.S. immigrant (not a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, lawful permanent resident, or traveling to the United States on an immigrant visa)... unless you are crossing the border illegally, then you're fine.
Hee! Hee! I’m laughing! I live on the border and no truer words were spoken! On the CA/AZ border! And from
What I hear the ‘vaxx cards’ that they issue in Mexico are a total joke! Just printed off a printer on a piece of paper! And I’m sure if you need one to travel (and are not Jabbed), you can get it from your local Cartel office!
The ones here are like that too, and you only need to show a photo of it.
Yeah, and it's workarounds like this that give the tyrants the ammo they need to push for formal vax passports and chip implants next.
Despite the fact that these experimental biologicals are unsafe and 100% ineffective.but hey Biden and his crew just make up whatever it is they want to do despite all the research and data available to them. Anyone else had enough?
We ALL have had enough! The Day to Day BS on the Vaxxes and Boosters is never ending! Now the Federal Government is recommending that people over 60 "get their Booster"! Well I guess they have to get rid of all the "Seniors" who are sucking up Government $$$ at the Social Security Trough, and leaving the Feds with less money to steal!
Do not take the boosters.in the UK the triple jabbed are dropping like flies.
Listen to what Catherine Austin Fitts has to say about people who got the boosters (and vaxx).
https://rumble.com/v1192vv-we-are-at-war-right-now-catherin-austin-fitts.html
germany has no such discrimination rules. they are vaxxing all ukrainians coming there with pfizer, their previous vaccination does not count.
Might be safer to stay in a war zone. 😳
So they are trying to kill them before they even get across the border. I bet they wish they had just stayed in the ukraine.
especially since less than 40% of Ukrainians fell for the vax BS
that's awful.
Canada isn't even vaxxing Ukrainians - letting them in with open arms while still discriminating against unvaxxed Canadians.
Cause they won’t acknowledge the evil Russian vaccine 🙄. 35% or so of Ukrainians are vaccinated. The rest isn’t. And they’re not keen on Lauterbach’s vaccine troops.
is that lauterbach still around? sort of suprised since he failed his masters on that mandate for the unwashed.
What good does a primary vaccine do from 2021??
Nothing except possible harm
What good do any of them do? Make you more likely to catch CCP Virus and shed spike
Well it makes Pfizer, Gates and Fauci richer..... otherwise, not much.
No. Utterly ridiculous. We got in via Mexico when it was still legal to be unvaccinated.
Yes but the US changed ‘the entry rules’ for foreign travelers. I live on the CA Mexico border in San Diego. I go to a dentist in Tijuana BC (much cheaper than the US). I walk across and take a taxi to my dentist, taxi back to the border, & walk back into the US. I have never seen anyone having to show a proof of vaxx card or status to the immigration people, since the foreign traveler vaxx passport requirement was put in force. They only show a passport & tourist or work visa to enter the US.
Because the reality is that they’ve shifted enforcement on to the airlines primarily.
So I really have to fly to Mexico and get to the Mexico-California border and walk over with my European passport? No vaxx pass will be demanded?
The enforcement is only done by the airline. That's your only hurdle. The US immigration does not care and also that counts for the rest of the world regarding testing and whatever other nonsense regarding entry; the airline is the enforcer. One option is to make a fake US vaccine card. The card can be downloaded off the internet as a PDF and is just filled in by hand by a pharmacy. It is white medium weight card stock.
Yes, and your summary fully accounts for some U.K. visitors who came to meet us in March. Unvaccinated & holding negative test results. Nothing was asked either at U.K. airports.
When it was VaxPass or test, on the land border with Mexico, in late December 2021, the border staff didn’t even ask to se any documents, either.
Possibly it’s a rule honoured indeed the futures.
That's a bit of gamble though to hope that the airline in the UK does not ask for it. I can also report that SAS did not ask for anything from a European traveller in December, i.e. either the test or the vaccine doc. The key is to connect to your US bound flight because the most likely checkpoint is going to be at the main check-in of the US bound departure airport, which you avoid by connecting. Out at the gate they are busy with annoying US bound security regulations that are still in place. So Swiss asked for an address, which I think actually could be corona related because my destination (LAX) might have specific rules imposed by the county of LA or state of CA. This is not a requirement for a US citizen. There is also a threat of fine in LA to register on a silly website supposedly for contact tracing; it even applies to domestic travel, I think. Nobody asks or cares about this. Swiss did not ask for my test results or ask for this stupid declaration form that you have to fill out.
p.s. If you want to cheat then obviously prepare docs that are not local to where you a travelling from or something very simple like the US paper card. But never present the US vaccine card to a US official either because they have strict penalties. Or find a doc from an obscure country that preferably is not very advanced with bar codes and so forth, but you can also create bar codes and "program" them. It's quite easy. Someone in the US or the EU is not going to know anything about a vaccine card from Tonga, for example.
The last time I flew to the US in Dec, the airline never checked for the antigen corona test because we were connecting. If I were not US citizen then they would not have checked for vaccination either. They actually asked for an address in the US when I presented the BP at the gate but nothing else.
I don’t think it works. It worked when euro travel ban was in place. But now all foreigners need the vax or else. The airlines won’t let you check in. And to boot you need a negative test 24 h before travel for checkin. Barf.
So they check everybody at the Mexico-California border?
Officially they should but Frontera Lupita reports that they don't in practice. I think the US border officials do not view at as being their job; they don't do it at the airports.
They check passports and visas (work, tourist) whenever I have crossed over on foot! They always ask what was the purpose of your visit to Mexico (as they assume you are coming in from
Mexico), & what are you bringing in. Asa foreigner. they are going to ask you the purpose of your trip. There are many Expat Europeans who live in Mexico who travel Into the US for whatever reasons. But I would not risk it without checking out what the regulations are for Entry from
Mexico to the US with whatever foreign passport you have.
nope. and they will give you a phone and a plane ticket.
I wouldn’t rely on that workaround.
I'd need to lookup vaxx rules at the Mexico-California border..
you have to be trying to enter illegally
Definitely.
you could walk across the Rio Grande and they'll give you a free plane ticket and cell phone!
True but I’d rather not. It’s not me but a friend m asking for him.
It is extremely unlikely that the vax requirement for foreign travelers will be lifted under Biden at all. I wouldn't count on it until we get a new President in 2024. Even a court case on that requirement is highly unlikely given that almost nobody has legal standing to challenge it in a US court because it only applies to foreign citizens.
Regrettably I agree completely. We’re stuck here & though we’re in a Free State, it’s unbearably sad to think I might not see my children again.
If I leave, I won’t be able to re-enter.
Our kids are unvaccinated.
My sister in U.K. holds a US passport through long residency j. The 80s £ 90
years.
But but, why does Europe let US people travel to Europe without the vaxx and not the other way around??
Because the US is a stupid evil fascist country.
Short answer is no.
Yes I would like to know that too and if it will be lifted if Title 42 gets axed.
As an unjabbed prisoner of canada, I'm hoping for progress on this congressional bill, The Northern Border Reopening Act. I couldn't care less about being able to fly there these days, as long as I can drive across I'll be happy.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6840/text?r=1&s=1
It'd be eventful to see Canada open for unvaxxed foreign travelers before the US does it.. if you do, they I would need to fly to Canada and cross the border to the US that way?
It's a tough call which country will be first to drop border restrictions against the unjabbed. We have emperor king puppet Justy Turd and his ego to deal with here. It probably depends on when his master Klaus gives him permission to take his feet off our necks.
And seeing as he won't even let us travel WITHIN Canada, I don't think Prince Valiant will be the first one to blink.
He only blinks when his earpiece fails and he has to string together a sentence all by himself.
I thought that foreigners could enter with either proof of vax or negative PCR test? It has been several months since I saw this so I could be out of date or just wrong.
Nearly all foreign travelers must show proof of "full vaccination." There are limited exceptions.
Like people who come through using the drug cartels
Yes. You are correct.
Exceptions are people who have a visa coming from some countries where they supposedly don't have a lot of vaxxines, this way they have to sign something saying they will make sure to get the vaxx as soon as possible after arriving to the USA..
No .. foreign nationals cannot enter without a vax (double).
Cause science of morons.
No. Sadly no.
It is a joke. I fly a lot for work and pleasure and make sure to be loud and obnoxious when it comes to the mask requirement. I thanked the AA lady for giving me a mask on my last flight as I was afraid of dying without the mask. Most people realize it's humor...except the covidians who need to realize it's a joke, not a dick and not to take it so hard.
The Biden Covidians
Biden Covidiots.
😂😂 I love that!!
A Trump appointee rated unqualified by the ABA whose husband worked on his 2016 campaign, and worked in his administration. The Left is going to love this.
But they loved judges invoking national injunctions during the Trump years. Of course, those judges all got overturned on appeal. Unlikely here.
Per National Review: "President Trump’s judicial appointments have earned the ABA’s “Well Qualified” rating at nearly the highest rate in five decades." Not that I give a damn about the ABA and their highly biased approval process.
ABA? There is a corrupt organization to rival the IOC.
They are posting this like crazy on the leftist ABC article.
Hopefully that now means Uber, Lyft, Instacart and other leftist gig economy leftards will have to drop it too?
Each one of those should allow people to make the choice for themselves.
Wife went to opening day of the local amusement park. Some dad wouldn't let his 4 year old eat at the park because she'd have to take her mask off to do it. Why even go?
I remember early on in the pandemic I was hiking at a park in the Puget Sound area, and as another hiker passed me, he held his breath. When this wasn't happening on trails, people would literally bolt from the sidewalk into traffic because I was unmasked outdoors as if I was more dangerous than an oncoming car. The lunacy with the maskters is staggering.
Some old coot almost jumped into the canal to escape my leperness. I laughed. It was funny.
Geez. Idiot
I was seeing a lot of that early on in the stupid shutdowns. People would hold their masks tighter on their faces, on the side of a windy mountainside.
Then Cuomo shut down the mountainside because too many people were hiking!
Same in San Francisco
These people don't even realize how much they are disconnected from reality..... the reasonable thing to do is not go if you're actually worried about Covid (with a 4 year old no less) but instead they show up at an amusement park with a zillion people and then worry about ineffective safety measures.
hope Dad doesn't have custody
I thought that Chief Justice John Roberts made a statement several years ago that there were no "Obama judges" or "Trump judges", just federal judges. Yet the fact that it is a decision of a Trump appointee is part of the lead of every news story? Hmmm.
trump made some great appointments, but putting dr. fauci in charge of covid pandemic was the most beautiful decision he ever made.
will always remember him also, for declaring covid a national emergency and justifying all these EUA vaxx and most importantly choosing mRNA path ... the most beautiful vaxx.
if wasnt not for trump, we will still be stuck on those old fashion vaccine. trump was definitely a visionary.
I was a yuge supporter, but I cannot find fault in your logical irony here. Fauci, Warp Speed, and the Emergency declaration enabled all of this foolishness. And he's still pushing jabs, although he claims to be against mandating them. Then he went and endorsed Dr Oz, the worst of the worst... That said, I think his presidency did interrupt the globalist march toward NWO, if only briefly. We just need to figure out if he's a written-in protagonist in their play, or a black swan. DeSantis/Owens 2024
I was hoping for a DeSantis/Haley ticket until I discovered she’s a WEF “Young Global Leader.”
Who is Owens? Lt. Gov Mark Robinson of NC is an up and comer for another year but I can’t think who is Owens. Thanks!
Candace Owens... not really a politician, but a guy can dream LOL...
Oh okay thank you for letting me know! I hear you. :)
No one knew what to expect then. I think he relied on “ the experts” for medical advice. Unfortunately we can’t just the past by what we know now.
I got a vaccine then; would not do it now.
trump, as Wit's End points out, is asking his supporters to get boosted.
biden has probably no clue, and fauci at al got him scared, trump knows better. dont recall trump ever getting this mRNA vaxx, or his family for that matter. my guess he knows.
Ive been on 20 flights over the past 12 months and have yet to encounter a right leaning flight attendant. I believe they are required to show voter registration during the hiring process
has to be the overwhelming majority as a percentage I would think too
I will be running thru the airport like OJ LOL
OJ yelling as he's running "The mask don't fit. You must acquit!"
LMAO!!
Killer image!
RIGHT LOL throwback!
I’m a flight attendant and this makes me so-o-o happy. I’m off today so I hope everyone is undressing those masks at every airport in the USA today
I hope that people will start treating each other like human beings again once they can see faces.
It's about damn time. I am flying Tuesday and Wednesday of this week and planned on being non-compliant mid flight just to see what happens.
Be sure to have your attorney on speed dial for when the Flight Attendant calls the Air Marshall.
He knows what he is dealing with. Won't take my calls any more. : )
This is great, but hopefully it lasts. I'm watching Philly closely - that is nuts and so angering and glad restaurants are pushing back. I live nowhere near Philly, but hopefully they feel the heat and back down and say this is over, becuase the people have said it's over. Thank you Alex for being the voice of truth and reason through this whole thing. They tried so many times to shut you up, and you're still standing.
Lifelong Philadelphia here, they are certifiably Infuckinsane!
I read even the mayor is "distancing" himself, and they managed to tick off the restuaurant assocaition. Utter insanity indeed and hopefully they realize it's time to cash in the chips and masks. You want to wear one fine, but they do nothing and don't force it on other people.
Eat that, Buttigieg.
you mean Buttplug?
Do their jobs? We're 2 fucking years in....
When will Nuremberg trials start? 150 years from now
I never fly so I don't care. As individuals, you have the right to make choices no matter what the tyrants dictate.
This makes me very happy!!!!
I'm on a flight right now, can I take my mask off already?
"The court concludes that the mask mandate exceeds the CDC's statutory authority and violates the procedures required for agency rulemaking under the APA," the judge wrote. "Accordingly, the court vacates the mandate and remands it to the CDC."
I think so!
You can but the airline might still try to enforce it. I'd give it a shot and politely share the ruling with the flight attendants.
I did try that, she still insisted I wear the mask was was very enthusiastic that it might end. She said it was the best news she heard in a long time
well, you tried.
That seems reasonable
I'm suddenly much happier about my weekend flight.
yet, rumor is NYS may go back to masks for health care (now optional), because, you know, they work so well on respiratory aerosolized viruses
As I’ve stated before on this Substack, if they push this on us again, I may retire ( already counting down) sooner than planned. If vax mandate re-appears for NYS healthcare worker s, same.
Most embarrassing due to excellent filtration? No, most embarrassing due to masks being absolute theater and having no efficacy the way the public is doing it. There was never a legal definition of face covering and no resources were provided to help the public do it safely and effectively. Instead, literally anything counted as a mask and it was all about being a good person. That people let it go this long has seriously shaken my faith in the future.
Hearing this BLEW up in airports across the land. Statement made, but no doubt the looney tune left will try and re-implement when they can. Remember people what government and what states support such fraudulent use of science when you vote come Nov 22. NEVER forget what these corrupt Government entities and BLUE run cities and states did you you and especially your children! NEVER FORGET!
Deborah Birx just polished off another bottle.
nice to see the CDC become a tad less weaponized. They shouldn't be able to mandate ANYTHING.
Like you stated, it's directly related to Poopypants Plummeting Polls. These tyrants do not ever want to give up any control. it's been way past time.
Poopypant's Plummeting Polls. love this
Now all I need is for Europe to take down testing requirements so I can travel this summer.
Feel the same way but no longer can afford plane tickets. Let's Go Brandon!
We recently booked travel to Poland. England and Poland are all clear. Every other transfer airport I checked had offensive testing requirements.
Good to know! Thanks!
How about for the unjabbed?
No testing or anything needed! An (unvaxxed) friend just returned from Poland via London and only had to take a test in Poland for entry into the US.
cool. The Brits were okay? I got searched my last time through London. still don't know why. Maybe too rock n roll
They dropped all testing requirements recently. We were looking at a tour and were told masks aren’t required unless a particular venue asks for them. It sounds free and open!
say Yeahhh!!
thank you!
Flew cross country last summer. Paid extra to sit in first to see if masking was as strict. Nope. Most flew up front muzzle-free. Like so many other $$$ places/events during the Rona: rules for thee, not for me. It's a scam.
Twitter is freaking out that the judge was. "Trump appointed." That term is trending. Guess the mask fascists can't handle this attack on their religion.
Wait until they find out that the 11th Circuit - the court that this decision would be appealed to - also has several Trump appointed "conservative" judges on it.
For now. More billable hours to be made.
Heh heh heh. Hope you can get that vacation place in Maui
Not me. 😁
I will enjoy all the new freedoms coming to us between now & election day
the day after that is going to suck, tho
No worries the Feds will Emergency fast track this to the appeals court and have it back in place faster than Joe Biden can name his cabinet members
You need masks mandated on planes? There's a judge in Hawaii for that.
We owe decisions like this to Alex's early research and explanations about why masks do not work. He is an incredible person and should be treated as such even though I tend to disagree with him on many issues outside of COVID, Free Speech and Drugs.
I'm literally waiting to take off as I read this. When does it become effective?
When you take off your mask.
"The court concludes that the mask mandate exceeds the CDC's statutory authority and violates the procedures required for agency rulemaking under the APA," the judge wrote. "Accordingly, the court vacates the mandate and remands it to the CDC."
The ruling is the law was bad, it's not a new policy.
Take it off!
It is effective immediately but the airline might still try to enforce it. You can try informing the flight attendants of the ruling so that they understand that there is no current federal regulation requiring masks. How big a fuss to make is up to you.
Yay! I just bought a plane ticket this morning and was dreading that bs. Now just to work on our city mandate...
Expect the opposition to raise its ugly head, lessons still not learned
Wearing a mask at the doctor's office has always been the most embarrassing and ridiculous mandate of all. People who are supposed to know better should know better.
I did a quick news search to see how real this is. All the MSM sources are going absolutely apopleptic.
"Widely expected to be appealed." "Will surely be overturned."
Ivermectin and Natural Immunity Antibodies Rule. Ty Jesus!!!!
Looking forward to seeing my leftist neighbor’s head explode over this ruling.
Why now? What prompted this?
And whatever prompted this, why did it take this long? Where was this case a year ago, or 22 months ago when this sht started?
A mandate is not a law...AND the face diaper thing has never been any kind of law. If someone tries to make you wear one, they are technically practicing medicine without a license as a mask is a medical device. Further, those we encounter who pull this crap have no knowledge of your personal health history, so therefore, there is not a soul anywhere who can make us suffocate ourselves. I have been in NUMEROUS fights in the past two years, as I have always refused to wear these stupid things. Whenever I have been challenged, I Have answered with..."well, I am not here to rob you and am not qualified to perform surgery, so therefore, I shall NOT wear a mask..." Good luck to those of you who will be flying. Everyone needs to just NOT comply with any of these stupid "mandates" ever again.....
No, I think it has been law, both airplanes and airports (though I haven't worn a mask in airports (SJU, ORF, BOS, MHT, PWM, BWI) for about the past year). Pretty sure it's a law that Trump signed.
No, it is not and has never been a law. It is simply a mandate.
You're right, it was never a law, hence the judge's ruling, which everyone should read. She eviscerates the mandate and it's thin justification. No one had ever ruled on the merits. She's the first, and out it goes. There is a reason the administration signaled to airlines and Amtrak today it's not fighting the ruling.
So what's everyone's explanation why it took more than a year for thin justification to be eviscerated? This ruling of hers was JUST as valid and apt in February 2021. But it took 14 months to see the light of day? Why didn't whatever precipitated this ruling take place in March 2021?
Pretty sure I looked into this because I was certain it was only a mandate, not a law, and I was surprised to find out it was a law. Now, the law may only apply to airports, not airplanes. It *may* be that the airplane thing is a mandate but I’m almost dead-sure that the airport thing is a law.
Look again, and show it to me. There is no law about this face mask thing. A business may try to make you wear one but the same argument applies...they cannot prescribe a medical device to me, you, or anyone unless they are that person's physician. The masks violate religious, and many health situations, and cannot be forced upon anyone. The whole issue went off the rails when folks began wearing them "just because". What's next....making someone shop nude, or wear only red, or some other color to work or enter an establishment. A mandate is only binding if/when one participates. I do not and have never chosen to participate. It is a mandate, not a law. Full stop.
I went looking, and couldn't find whatever it was that I found back then that told me it was actually law. So it's entirely possible - probable, even - that whatever I found was mistaken, or, that I misremembered the situation. I cannot find support for my assertion, so I shall vacate my assertion.
Thank you for your honest and fair response. And happy free-breathing to you and yours...
And the reason this resonates with me is because I can almost remember where I was standing when I saw a sign on an airport door that made reference to a “law“ and I was sure that that sign was wrong and so I looked into it and I found out I was wrong. And that Trump signed the law and that it was the Norfolk Virginia airport that prompted my looking into it.
I think the key here is that you "almost remember." There is no law or regulation on mask mandates. It is purely a creature of the CDC's shifting policies, no matter what the airlines say. The airlines are/were trying to force compliance by calling it a "law." They are probably worried about liability if someone gets Covid after flying on their planes when they did not enforce masks, based on the common misconception that they do prevent the spread. Anymore these days, however, with all the shedding from the vaxed, it might not hurt to wear a mask anyway.
No, I remember explicitly researching it. I remember the particular airport door where I saw the sign - Southwest, at ORF - that pissed me off, because it used the word "law" and I was dead-sure it was only a mandate, and that TSA or the airport was lying to us to get us to comply with something that wasn't a law by calling it a law.
So I researched it, because (it was back when I was still on FB, in 2020) I had made a number of comments to the effect that it was not a law, it was only a mandate, and when I researched it I was very surprised to find out that it was in fact a law signed by none other than Trump.
I remember all that. It's very specific. It's not "oh, I remember looking something up". No, my recollection has specific details that would not exist if it were just a figment of my "almost" remembering. I mean, I can see the sign on the window at Southwest's entrance at ORF. It's that specific.
So I'm now dumbfounded about all that, because I cannot find whatever it was that I found in late 2020 that convinced me that it was in fact a law, contrary to what I had thought all along.
Now, maybe whatever source I found back then incorrectly called it a "law" and incorrectly said that it was signed by Trump, that much I don't recall. I don't recall the specific source or its language, but I would've "final answered" on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, on the million-dollar question, and without using any of my lifelines, that Trump signed the law requiring masks in airports.
That's how sure I was about everything that led up to me "remembering" that it was a law signed by Trump.
It's not a law. It was a CDC mandate based on a flimsy interpretation of a law authorizing the CDC to require sanitation - which the judge eviscerated today in her ruling.
Airlines wanted to get rid of the mandates for at least a year.
Let’s go Brandon!
FJB!
Maybe sanity has a chance ... fingers crossed
Biden admin will fight this to the bitter end and blame racism for massive losses in November. This was never about health and everything about compliance. This is the beginning of the end of this stupid mandate.
Actually it looks like they're not going to fight it. Airlines asked today (which is why there was a two hour period of uncertainty) and they all lifted it after being told there was no appeal coming, at least for now.
How exciting! At last. Sorry Biden and his corrupt crew couldn’t be the big people they should have been and dropped this mandate months ago!
What prevents some other judge from re-instating the mandate?
Another judge would have to hear a new case from different, but equal, jurisdiction, and decide differently. Then the next court will have to take it up on appeal.
Tar and feathers, in a better world.
It was not immediately clear whether the Justice Department would appeal her order. If so, it could ask the judge or an appeals court to stay her order so that the C.D.C. could continue to enforce it while the matter undergoes further litigation.
No stay allowed here. Only appeal.
I don't think the admin is going to fight it. It ends May 3rd. They may have wanted this, in a way, to give them an excuse. There's a reason there was a delay today until the airlines all caved and said no mandate. Same thing for Amtrak.
I wonder if this might actually be beneficial to the Biden administration since the extension was only until May 3. Maybe they prefer ending the mandate this way vs having to make the decision themselves.
it is just bs ... look for fauci ... as long as he is in the top job, nothing changes.
Great question. How 'real' is this anyway?