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I'm so afraid for the children...

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We’re in CA where 12-up will be required to get the vaccine to go to school next year. Next it will be 5-up. I have grandsons, 6, 9, and 14. I’m very worried.

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Move or home school. Do not allow your grandchildren to be lab rats!!!

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My son & his wife believe in the jabs and my granddaughter has already been jabbed. I have no doubt my grandson will be too as soon as they start rolling them out here in CA. As a grandparent I am powerless to stop it & I'm am beyond frightened & sick about it

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It's so hard when the young people won't take the advice of those who have lived long enough to develop some wisdom. Then they feel superior and arrogant in their decisions, not just about vaccines, even disallowing grandparents to see their grandkids. Your family is among many who are running in to get shots that are risky when they aren't at great risk of serious illness from Covid. Subjecting children to this experiment? Horrible.

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If they don’t honor the wisdom of their father and mother, then possibly they won’t live long on the Lord their God had given them

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Nothing is more dangerous than the delusions of the Masses. Always has been always will be.

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Tragic Story out of PA. This is typical of what appears to be happening , but is labeled as a Covid 19 death....Can the Media hypnotic trance be broken?

Joe Wise, a Republican candidate for an Allegheny County Council in Tuesday’s election, died Saturday afternoon of COVID-19 complications.

Mr. Wise had received his first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine and then fell ill, according to his son Christian Wise, 17.

“He was a phenomenal person,” Christian said. “He got sick literally the day after he got [the vaccine], and it really was just a string of bad luck.”

He was 56.

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"...just a string of bad luck."

Somebody doesn't trust the science. If they did, they'd be aware of what can be found in table 2 of this study of 350K medical workers. That being: "Adjusted Vaccine Efficacy 0-14 days after first dose: -1.04"

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.08.21252200v1.full.pdf

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I hope they reported it to VAERS.

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So sad 😞 my family too.

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Maybe you can pull the state data and other states to show them that healthy children should not get the vaccine. I collect from my own state, WV where I now live after retirement. This state has a very unhealthy population; obese children/young adults. Not one child under the age of 16 has died of COVID. Age Group 16-20, 2 have died. It is my unprofessional opinion, even chubby kids are healthier than say someone 25 overweight. The ages for death start showing up in 21-30 where 20 have died. The longer you carry extra weight the more damage it does to your over all health. Just my opinion there.

For a couple of months I was trying to reconcile the number of deaths reported to CDC for US (age group 0-24; had to use this age group, because that was the only way to match ages based on the two diff provided data). The problem with that I discovered after a while, the comorbidities are behind in inputting data even though the end date was only one day diff. The number of deaths for no-comorbidities went down some times (Total deaths for age group less deaths with other factors contributing to death). It took too much work and not enough good results to continue pursuing. For example, did this on the fly just now; they have 2101 deaths nationwide for 0-24, and 2059 with other causes contributing to death. 42 do not have comorbidities reported. The thing is, say next week the diff might be 38. Here are the links: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku/data

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

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Children should not be vaccinated. I agree that obesity among children is serious. So many explanations. There are few homemakers who cook at home for the family. They are working and stressed. Family members have different schedules and don't eat together. Sacks of fast food are brought in each night. The kids love that food, so Mom is happy. There's the salt and the caloric content and not a balanced diet.

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I remember the US before we looked like a herd of swine. Also remember the explosion of frozen food in the markets in the 80s: frozen individual serving pancakes, frozen hamburgers in the bun etc. It shocked me because I'd been in rural SW NYS in college and no one could afford that trash. Then mothers were told we only needed 15 minutes of good "quality time" per child per day so we could go ahead, park our kids in daycare, work our asses off on some ego ridden career fantasy, and hey, all would be well. WE would be happy and that's ALL that mattered.

(I never thought that made sense.) And the 90s...that's when you started to see lard buckets everywhere. People too busy to cook, to sit down together get FAT.

Now on the local University campus I see girls walking sometimes work what's obviously their mothers. The mothers are often trim, the girls look like hippos. And you realize there's no way on God's green earth they're ever going to lose that fat.

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Thanks for the information. Weight definitely plays a role but To explain young healthy athletes getting sick or dying, there is more to the story. Different pathways are involved like angiotensin in nose…lungs … T helper cells B- cells IGE IGM IGG Interleukins. Keep exercising and eat well and early intervention is important.

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This was right in front of me on the first link, and now is more relevant since CDC wants to vaccinate children as young as 5.

More Children have died of Pneumonia than COVID (time period 01/01/2020 – 10/27/2021), since start of COVID.

Ages 0-17 COVID Deaths 558

Ages 0-17 Pneumonia Deaths 1,055

Ages 0-17 Deaths from all causes 60,066

No one is forcing parents to have their children get the pneumonia shot. Why?

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I feel for you....were you able to try to show them some information against it?

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In my experience, there is no presenting information. That's what my friends tell me. I know that people have been instructed to "pre-but" not rebut the information that conflicts with their politically correct views. A friend sent me his copy of Science News which recommends that people read or listen only to their suggested list of accurate media which support the "science." NYT, Washington Post, and such irresponsible publications are listed. The brainwashing of the younger generation is shocking. The government knows everything. Parents and grandparents are ignorant of the science.

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From a Science News article (note it is not a direct quote from Ms Oliver) : 'But the risk of the easily treatable heart issue is low and outweighed by the benefits of vaccination, Sara Oliver of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said June 23' https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-coronavirus-mrna-vaccines-heart-inflammation-myocarditis

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There’s no point. Our Governor is Nancy Pelosi’s nephew. Liberals rule in this state and we all know they don’t care about facts.

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We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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you can email me for my story about 2 of my three kids being vaxxed with ONE shot of DPT and DTAP and both being either brain damaged or got severe RA for life. And those disgusting shots were FDA APPROVED. Please email me at hs4265@protonmail.com

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You can't them anything. Believe me, I've tried. Repeatedly.

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Along those lines, read this article - POWERFUL!!! And then pass it along to everyone you know. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/i-have-been-through-this-before-bauer

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Gary, Thank you for sharing the article. I’m crying, but I’m feeling so empowered in my decision to pull my 8 year old son from public school. We live in WA, he is in mask all day including recess time. Outside they are masked. Everyone around me think that I’m overreacting, that kids will be OK. Appreciate the link to the article.

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We are homeschooling our son with a fantastic teacher if you’re interested. We’re right by golf course. We are looking for another boy. If interest let me know.

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Veteran homeschool parent here. My children are grown and successful. Homeschooling was the best decision I ever made. The book “The wWell Trained Mind is a Great Resouch”. Classical education is the way to go. Now I just pray that this government and this world doesn’t destroy my children that I do carefully raised. Lord help us all.

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We're in WA, too. Fortunately, we found a Classical Christian School near us a few years back and they allow kids to go unmasked.

We discussed, as a family, that if Inslee ever starts talking about the jab for private school kids, that's our 'go' criteria. I'd rather live in a trailer in a free state than under tyranny.

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In South Dakota we have not had masks this year. If there is an exposure and no symptoms the kids go to school and wear a mask for 10 days. Life has returned to normal with no problems. In Minnesota a surgeon from Fergus Falls was fired for stating that surgical masks don't prevent the spread of viruses... He is correct.

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Several studies show that these masks are useless for viruses. They only work for bacteria, which are much larger. Well, the 95 mask says it all right - it keeps 95 % and lets 5 % in. One study, by the Dentists of Canada, was revoked at the beginning of the mask craze, but I read it before that. No difference between mask or no mask on a dentist. And he is very close to you.

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We moved from Washington state six years ago, my boys still have friends there and two of the families are leaving the state because of the schools. Another boy who is a junior has been asking my sons about homeschooling. They are making life miserable for the kids that won't get vaccinated. It should be criminal! And his friends that were vaccinated all got sick with covid afterwards anyway!

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“Everyone around you” seem to be just more useful idiots that allow this madness to continue. You did the right thing, my kids are grown but if they weee still grammar school aged they would be homeschooled. My wife has a well paying job too but we would forgo it instead of putting up with the madness that is public education.

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You are not overreacting in my grandmotherly opinion. Children these days get far too many vaccines, some of which they don’t need. My daughter will pull her children out of school if there are vax mandates....she lives in NJ. She’s praying Murphy looses! Many moms will sacrifice for their children!

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The article was illuminating and important. But you probably noticed that the writer had weaknesses and psychological problems which caused her to blow like a reed in the wind, and to believe that she was bullied by "big men." So unless you need counseling, I suggest not crying. Go with your instincts about your child in all ways, and just say, "We're not doing that." Wo cares what the other parents are doing? They don't have your good instincts.

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when you identify yourself with "what I do, what I have, what other ppl think about me", you are an object (objectify yourself and others), it's impossible not to project that onto others too, even your children. We are Relational Beings worthy of respect(and individuality) able to give and receive love. That is the seduction of satan...to get you to objectify yourself, then you are a perpetual victim and at the whims of others. God wants us to see the truth and restore our identity.

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I homeschooled and it's the best way to make a life long learner. Also taught physics at University and my homeschooled students were pretty good. Like the African students here from Nigeria, polite, diligent, capable.

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UW golf course. Sorry, deleted that part when editing by accident.

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I have not had the author’s experience with the medical industry yet I have been fearful from the beginnings of Covid of what society would do because of it. How terrifying it must be for her having lived through similar with such tragic results and seeing it play out again.

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In primeval societies today's 'experts" would be called witch doctors.

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Very interesting article. Entirely applicable to today's raging medical experts!

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Ha, I just read this last night. Heavy stuff

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I did too. It is heavy stuff. Instructive and important. But it's laden with her issues stemming from a fragile psyche. Emotionally healthy people would not have been manipulated like this. That includes the men she chose. However, autism is so horrible in its extreme manifestations that I understand the desperation.

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Read about Ancel Benjamin Keys and the terrible impact he had on Americans with his ill-formed "science" in the 1950s. From his "science" he defined a diet for Americans that ended up causing heart disease, obesity, diabetes, and all sorts of other problems. His bad science is responsible for the diet that was recommended by the American Heart Association & the U.S. Department of Health in the 1960s. He said saturated fats were a problem causing "clogged" arteries. Just one little problem, that isn't how our liver metabolizes saturated fat. But as a consequence of his diet, Americans turned to a diet high in carbohydrates and kaboom, we were off to the races with an epidemic of obesity that has not abated. We put so much faith in experts when often times they are just headline grabbers.

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Spot on. The FDA recommended “diet” may be one of the greatest public health tragedies/errors of all time in terms of lives and quality of life lost. It’s worth asking: if we have yet to fully understand the biochemical and physiological effects of simple food, is it reasonable for experts to claim total understanding of incredibly complex mechanisms like the human immune system and the impact of gene therapy/vaccines?

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My husband and I both lost weight after our microwave burst into flames and we never replaced it. I blame microwaved food for some of the obesity in the US. Too easy to rustle up a dubious "meal".

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They change health guidelines constantly. Don’t feed kids peanuts before a year. Peanut allergies go rampant. Now it’s introduce peanuts earlier. Butter is horrible; use margarine. A few years later - margarine is horrible; use butter. Coffee is bad. A few years later; coffee is good for you. I could go on and on with example after example. Who could believe anything these people say??!!

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Thanks. I hadn't thought of that. Those who gave up butter and eggs and milk and meat turned to carbs. Does anyone out there have experience with children who eat only a very few things and whose diets are terrible? I am shocked at the family members' children and how there seems to be no planning of nutrients or variety of a wholesome diet.

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Of course, you're worried, as well you should be! Yes, encourage your grandsons' parents to homeschool the boys or find a private school that doesn't require the jab! All of my soon-to-be thirteen grandchildren, who are school-aged, are being taught at home. I've never been more grateful that my grandkids are being homeschooled than I am now in this upside-down, insane world!

HOWEVER, my oldest grandchild went off to a state college last year on a volleyball scholarship. She and her team mates were required to wear masks while playing, and no family member or friend could attend the games. 🙄

BUT . . . in order to return to school, during THIS academic school year, she was essentially forced to submit to the jab. Her parents tried to talk her out of doing so, but hey, she's 19 now. She wants to get a degree, and as one of five children, the only way she can do that (in her mind) is to attend college on a scholarship. Her parents researched all three vaccines and recommended the J&J. Despite reports of clots out of England, this is the one vax that is not mRNA formulated.

I worry about her health now and about the four boys behind her, who will want to attend college, but will be faced with the same dilemma. I can only pray that the madness will end before they graduate from high school.

All the best to you and yours, Debra!

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Home school now. This and the religious exemption will be attacked soon.

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Is Pfizer trying to get ahead on a potential situation???

https://presscalifornia.com/2021/10/28/pfizer-vax-kids/

DON'T VAX THE CHILDREN !!

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It's not usually up to Grandma.

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True... but getting old doesn't cause us to care less for our loved ones and express concern, nor does it render us unable to think, analyze, reach informed conclusions, and articulate reasonable opinions.

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Has it ever been contemplated that requiring vaccination has the anticipated result that many will remove their children from public schools, thereby lowering expenses for the schools requiring the jab?????

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I think that school officials don't want to lose pupils, because state aid is based upon enrollment. It's why they oppose vouchers. This requirement could hurt them, but they are confident that they have parents over a barrel. They believe that there are no choices for most parents but to comply, because parents will do anything not to pay for private education or have to home school.

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or do anything not to have to personally invest and raise and educate their children themselves

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Feeding children in the U.S.

Put the sacks of fast food (surprisingly expensive) on the table. Or, go out to restaurants and hand the five and three year old's their devices to watch mindless, rapidly moving action so the adults can sip their wine. Buy each child an expensive adult dinner which they will hardly glance at. Linger past children's bedtime, and all goes fine for quite awhile while the images swirl on the devices. Not my generation, but we adjust.

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In California too and everyone I know with kids is pulling them when the mandate goes in or already has. I hope the same happens for your grandsons.

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I really hope people do pull their kids. Stay strong parents!

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I’m in So Cal; let me tell you the (kinda long) story of when I took my son (now 24) out of school in 2011, when he was just starting the 7th grade. It was just before Common Core, and though I couldn’t name what was happening, I could SEE it coming, ever since Matt was in about the 2nd grade. Antibullying hit the scene first, though, bringing along with it gay and trans-rights messaging. I saw how it seemed to make everything worse: three kids at his school overdosed in the bathroom, and another kid (from our church) was caught selling his Adderall at school. Matt came down with mono around this time, and the school threatened ME with truancy officers and court orders because he was “missing too much school.” That did the trick. I unenrolled him the very next day, and I set up my own school “Alternative School #4” as a joke about Commie schools.

My only regret is not doing it sooner, but, like most of us, I’ve been subjected to heavy brainwashing, too. I was afraid for so long that I “couldn’t do it.” Finally, I was more afraid of what school was doing to him than what my (inabilities, knowledge gaps, or, God forbid, potentially neglect, etc.) might do. I decided that even if he learned NOTHING at home, he’d be better off than internalizing the “education” his school was providing.

Admittedly, Matt spent a couple of years mostly sleeping, eating, and playing video games with online friends, and I worried and worried, but he continued with his stage acting classes once a week, and I was always available to help him follow some passion or other: he took up growing exotic strawberries, he began collecting Illuminati cards (it’s a card game, and it’s so cool!), and we found a “day-class”/field trip to the Gemology Institute of America (GIA) that really sparked an interest in gemstones.

When he turned 15, he started to come out of his hibernation. He took a driving class at 15-1/2 to be ready for his provisional license at 16, then immediately started working on getting a job. I’d “graduated” him then, so he wasn’t stuck with all the trouble of dealing with work restrictions. Much to my surprise, after several (lame) interviews he didn’t get, with stores like Target, Toys-R-Us, Bed Bath & Beyond, and Old Navy, he said he wanted to work at a jewelry store. “Good luck,” I told my naive young son, who looked closer to 13 than to 16 (he looks about 16 now, at 24!). I didn’t think he stood a chance…and yet, he did it! He offered to work for free for as long was necessary to prove himself. He began collecting a paycheck within about three weeks. He took college classes and became a fully certified gemologist by 18, and now he’s running the store by himself. He’s constantly underestimated by customers everyday, and it’s been a blast hearing the stories of how he rises to each challenge.

He even found opportunities during the Covid (which we all had and we’re fine…no vaccines or masks or distancing for us, thanks) lockdown: Matt met a nice man, and they’ve been dating for over a year…huzzah! Best of all, Matt has developed into a FREE thinker! No vax for him!

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He would have been 'transed' if you'd left him at school. Good on you.

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Awesome!

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Mandates have started at lausd and Culver City unified . Newscum stated statewide once fda approved . I expect it will happen this July so parents need to plan and prepare.

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It’s not “approved.” Just EUA.

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True yet lausd and Culver City are enforcing it now. And I know many parents blindly went with it bc of fear and trust in our medical establishments and three letter agencies

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We are reading about it and LI Loud Majority , Fl Loud Majority, No left Turn, Thinkcritically 1963 , Dads on Duty, Moms for liberty all retelling of your bravery.

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I do too. The 14 year old just started his freshman year after staying home for a year. Bad timing for his age.😔

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Yep 😕 mine are 16 and 18 and fortunately homeschooled all their lives but I still drove to Texas so my senior could participate in a homeschool graduation there so he at least didn't lose that. All their friends (except the one in private school) are miserable in both high school and college with all the masks and ridiculous rules. It's sick. I hope they grow up and create a class action lawsuit against Newsom.

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Sadly, you'll still be required to pay your high school property taxes if you don't want to lose your house.

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I have been paying school taxes on TWO homes plus buying my own curriculum for my kids for 13 years now, as did my parents with me when I was homeschooled and then went to private school. That's the sacrifice I am willing to make to keep my kids out of those hell holes.

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We’ve paid…and we keep paying. It’s a small price, considering. (Besides, we don’t require much by way of creature comforts.)

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Definitely leave. Things are not getting better there

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It’s not as easy to do when all our family is here and I have a husband not willing to go and I’m not willing to divorce him

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People with spouses that are in agreement about the panic are in a totally different reality than those of us who are alone within our families in resisting this madness.

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it's very common for opposing opinions between spouses, sad, but you are not alone. can't imagine living that daily...disagreeing on major personal opinions...but, God makes a way if we "seek first the kingdom of God", then you can proceed with peace even during spousal disconnect.

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Leave the public schools, is the recommendation. Adult couples can cope.

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That’s me too. It’s an impossible situation.

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Move to a conservative state with a low cost of living. You won’t regret it. My own family recently made a big sacrifice to avoid compromising our values. Turned out to be better off in the end and we are so glad we did it.

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Which state, if I may ask?

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FL🕊🌴🕊

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Welcome to freedom! 🇺🇸

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Just moved my family from CA to FL for the same reason: Freedom

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Jenn - may I ask which state you moved to? This is definitely something I've considered as I'm in CA as well and have a teenager in HS.

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I have friends with high schoolers in The Woodlands, Texas. No masks. Life is normal for them.

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Resist. Be vocal. No time to be liked; no time to worry what “others” think. I’m on CAL too. VacSafety.org. Nonprofit. Fighting for truth and against mandates, espy for kids!

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File suit. In the meantime, home school.

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Caroleannjust now

We are reading about it and LI Loud Majority , Fl Loud Majority, No left Turn, Thinkcritically 1963 , Dads on Duty, Moms for liberty all retelling of your braver

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Caroleannjust now

We are reading about it and LI Loud Majority , Fl Loud Majority, No left Turn, Thinkcritically 1963 , Dads on Duty, Moms for liberty all retelling of your braver

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What is the point of education anyway? I went to school for most of my life. I have a Masters in Secondary Education which has not helped me one bit, and plus I don't even know how to survive in the woods. What on earth was I learning all those years?

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Dennis Prager says people seem to get more and more stupid the longer they attend school.

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yeah i mean there is definitely some truth in that.

basically what we learn in school is how to perpetuate the system (and make MONAY)

but hey, every system pretty much is set up to perpetuate itself so what do you expect?

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I feel exactly the same as you do with my stupid sociology/psychology double-major. Worthless!! Good thing I never wanted a grand career. Fwiw, I’ve learned far more outside of school than I have in school.

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I feel this vibe. Really what is the point?

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I have high hopes that soon the 'obvious to us' issues of concern will be resolved by more public awareness. I think every few weeks there is greater resistance and as more injected people run into trouble and become the greater spreaders and victims amongst each other - the tide will turn. Delay and decline to play the game for now. And help others understand what is going on. Best wishes for your grandkids and planet Earth!

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I pray you are right. I’m struggling as I listen to my friends rejoice knowing that 5-11 year olds will soon be receiving the jab.

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It’s surreal, I hear the same. I’m starting to believe it’s more about fitting in so their family can be free from community judgement. They’d rather sacrifice their child’s well-being to keep their status. Twisted

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I agree. Maybe not status, but comfortable mental and financial security. Parents have been sacrificing their children for a long time, not admitting to themselves that the A's didn't signify anything. When I was teaching, and agitating for an excellent curricula, the visionary planners responded with, "Who needs to know that stuff? The parents agreed.

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You have the wrong friends.

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I agree with this, Jordan. I have some friends who eagerly got vaccinated and then had serious female/period issues that took months to resolve. I've noticed none of them want to give the shot to their young daughters. Also, more and more people I know, know someone who has had serious vaxx side effects. I'm grateful ppl are finally starting to see.

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I hope you're right, but what I'm seeing most of is vaxxed people -- even those who've had bad side effects -- desperately clinging to their faith in the vaxxes and at the same time their paranoia about the covid and about the unvaxxed, probably to avoid facing the reality that they've been hoodwinked and maybe injured for life. One woman I know actually cheered when an unvaxxed co-worker caught a fairly bad case of covid. She's still treating him like a pariah now that he's recovered and is back to work, even though he's probably safer to be around than she is.

I'm afraid we'll see as much of this defensive reaction as the increased resistance that you describe. It's much like the women who've had abortions and then buried their grief in militant pro-abort activism to avoid facing what they've done.

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Phoebe, I totally understand and there are the people who are dug in like it's their religion. I know many. And the truth IS rather unbelievable, so I give them that. But I am becoming increasingly aware through social media sites how many people are standing up for their rights and it seems throughout the world people are taking to the streets in greater numbers. So I have hope whereas a few months ago I was bereft. Tap into others, and information sources, like Alex, and stay the course! You are not alone. Every day things become more obvious to many, it's hard for people to acknowledge they have misunderstood or have a change in their belief system. You don't know until you know! Best wishes.

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What's really bizarre -- or maybe I should say sad -- is that the woman I mentioned had actually had a severe reaction to the shot, as had her husband and two other co-workers. In fact, her husband's reaction to the shot, with a fever peaking at 103F, was about as bad as the illness that the unvaxxed co-worker had with covid. But to her, only the unvaxxed co-worker counted as being sick, and it was all because he refused to take the shot. This kind of cognitive dissonance doesn't go away very easily.

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Yes, what you describe is what I have seen on a daily basis - sheer irrational rage.

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Even my conservative mom who just had her booster shot STILL wears a mask in many indoor situations. She has 3 doses of the vaccine but still doesn’t trust it to protect her. My husband and I want to invent a continuous booster pump. It would work like the pump that diabetics have. Every time you think you are in a super spreader situation, you can just pump another booster or two into your body, and you’re good to go!!!

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ding ding ding!

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Home school, it is not as difficult as you think...

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Curriculum is one thing. Moody teenager is another. We’re hoping to find a retired high school teacher who’s willing to teach a small group.

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Better yet, look for a recently fired teacher who refused to be vaccinated.

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Debra where do you live in california ?

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Sacramento County. Two grandsons in El Dorado County.

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I’m in Southern California. I wish I can make a pod here with other kids his grade

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Someone might make a nice penny coming up with an app for a homeschooling network. Maybe it already exists. Hmmm!

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There are many apps being used like Might Networks - Co-Op Connect is one for CA (teachers and students not willing to take the jab). The networks are growing!

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*Mighty Networks

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Im sure u thot of this but Pool ur resources. Get w other fams & share responsibilities of home schooling even if u have to pay a live in (mayb certified) teacher/nanny. If enuf kids drop out public schools will hav to change to $urvive! Push Bak Parents!! (sounds lik a slogan!)

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I am willing to helping and I agree!

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Home school. Keep your kids minds and bodies pure as long as possible.

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Yes! And In the meantime, use resources such as IXL to supplement learning while gathering your other curricula. Helping daughter homeschool her young sons and they enjoy it and are making progress.

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Time to home school?

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The World Health Organization does not recommend vaccinating normal kids between 12 and 16 years because of the problems with myocarditis. I don't understand how it can be required in California. Also, the form of the Pfizer vaccine that was provisionally FDA approved is not even available in the United States, making all mandates a joke.

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they want more deaths, more mysterious illnesses ergo...MORE POWER AND CONTROL over the panicked easily manipulated sheep....egged on by psychotic Narcissists. Gaslighting often causes the victim to doubt themselves. Someone will do or say something abusive and then deny that it ever happened. This whole covid event has been mental abuse. You'll see me liken it to sexual assault. Epstein, Weinstein, Gates, Obama, Soros type mentalities behind every level of this.

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A joke that many corporate employers and local school boards, especially in California, are apparently taking very seriously.

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I think it's important that the older generation start standing up and saying "don't do it for us". So much of the message around lockdowns, and now vaccines, has been about "protecting the elderly and vulnerable". It has been used as an insidious form of guilt-mongering and shaming. If there were no risk to the young to vaccinate "for the sake of others" there may be some credibility to this approach - but there clearly is risk. And we should never, ever sanction ANY risk for the young for an almost zero benefit (for them). It is sheer madness to sacrifice the young for the sake of the old. I could never, ever ask that of my grandchildren. I would rather risk getting the disease and dying. You have clearly recognised this, so can do something about it by speaking to others and starting to send out a clear message - NOT IN OUR NAME.

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Subjecting kids to toxic shots to "protect the old and sick" is called "eating your young. Anyway, if the shots protect you, why not let people take them if they want and leave others in peace?

CDC never answers that question. We feel like we're looking at insanity coming in from 360 degrees, but it's not insanity. It's money and cover-your-ass.

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You're absolutely correct.

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I've said it many times. I'm 74, and my ancestors WILLINGLY sacrifices their lives for the mere promise of individual liberty, then insisted on the Bill of Rights before ratifying the new Constitution. Their grandchildren sacrificed their lives to abolish slavery (unfortunately with exceptions) and make sure the Constitution applied equally to all Americans. My parents and grandparents fought for 100 more years to translate that de jure principle into de facto, admittedly a work in progress but still PROGRESSING. I will not sacrifice the inalienable rights of my children and grandchildren out of a FEAR (not even a reality) that my own long life will be shortened by 10-20%.

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Some have. Many haven't. Hindsight's a wonderful thing eh? And you would not have been different were you a boomer? Really? Bigot.

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Articulate and cogent. And not a reply to what I stated, simply an insult. Why bother?

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Your ageism (bigotry) is noted.

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I'm not defending my generation. I'm defending INDIVIDUALS from a hate-mongering collectivist, apparently incapable of judging people by the content of their character, who instead makes sweeping judgements based on entirely irrelevant characteristics.

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I will simply kill the sob that comes after my grandchildren with that poison

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Looming disaster. I can only pray for a quick disaster to open the eyes of the ignorant, rather than the delayed disaster that may kill so many more 🙏🙏😔💔

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That's not true, acutally. They can get a Personal Belief Exemption for any vaccine that is NEW to the schedule. Also, it's still under EUA for kids that age, and it can't be added at this time.

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Lausd is not accepting any religious or personal belief exemptions. This is what I read which is crazy when the uc colleges are .

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The penalty for not recalling when the opportunity was there. Instead, fall for the fear factor once again re Elder, who couldn't do anything except rescind executive orders without legislative authority.

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Resist. Don't let them get the jab.

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My son is not happy we have decided to pull him out. We are confident this is the right decision

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He will thank you one day. 10 years later, my homeschooled and now-successful son continues to thank us.

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And he was not happy at first either.

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It’s the friend thing... totally overrated in my opinion but he’s a teen, sophomore in high school . All his friends are jabbed so he doesn’t see the big deal with getting a shot .

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Sallie is exactly right; it WILL be challenging at first but he will thank you later. There are countless homeschool opportunities for extra curricular and social activities and when he sees how efficient homeschooling is and how much free time he has, he'll be surprised. My nephew had a hard transition last year from a big high school to homeschooling for his senior year. His alternative was to continue online class and he was miserable but he wanted to be with his friends. He ended up doing Liberty U's homeschool program and started college there this fall. He's a sophomore because he worked hard and took dual enrollment courses so got a year of college done.

It was some time ago, but my kids were homeschooled from early years. One of mine is a PhD scientist at a top lab, having earned a patent already in grad school. The other is artistic and homeschooling enabled them to take professional opportunities from the age of 16. They had a ball. The transition is hard and the first year is VERY hard, but you will get it and your son will soar, I know.

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Definitely makes for a difficult conversation- it’s hard to toe the line between discussing the risks and causing them to worry about the people they love that have already taken it.

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I would let him read the Covid blog or c19vaxreaction.com

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My granddaughter is in a Christian high school after homeschooling for 8 yrs & she absolutely loves it! No vax mandate where she's at. Of course my very smart son & his beautiful smart wife would nvr let her get jabbed with that experimental poison! But we do live in a Red state tho, thank God! (Ohio)

God be with you all❤

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Did you use a charter school so that you could get funding? I’m just scared the mandates may effect charters and I do not have the ability to teach him at that level

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I didn't think I did either. Totally! I just bought the materials (some from the Ron Paul curriculum and some hand-picked), and I framed it to him that, instead of me being the teacher, we were going to try learning it all together. And we did. He has a college degree now and runs his own business.

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nice work!

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My 22 y/o was homeschooled from end to end. Now he’s a multi engine commercial airline pilot instructor…

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👏👏👏

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Sallie is right on this, too. Some of the high school coursework is difficult to revisit, but there are wonderful curricula and plenty of help. Mine did Saxon math, which made my son cry at times out of frustration, but he learned to learn it on his own. There were tutoring videos that helped. However, when he got to college, because he had learned how to learn on his own, he soared. The hard work paid tremendous dividends.

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Pool ur resources. Join w other fams w teens/kids & share the load. Take turns teaching ect. Hire an intern or tutor or teacher. It will b alrt.

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It is!!

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Read this article - Very powerful. Worth a few minutes of your time. I promise you!https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/i-have-been-through-this-before-bauer

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Totally agree now how can we stop this mandate madness! We need to somehow come together to stand against this!

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Politicians are supposed to represent the will of the people. They are not. They can try to make us believe we are subservient to them, but that isn’t the case. Everyone needs to wrap their minds around that. They do not have any more power than we give them.

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Parents and Grandparents must fight back.

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Yeah, so afraid, and yet, children will die, because dictates need to be adhered to…

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i think we should require that all politicians kids and grand kids get it first.

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Absolutely. Nobody's kids get it before those kids get it. Judges and bureaucrats, too (at the federal, state and local levels).

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Yeah, the way John Travolta gave Uma Thurman her shot in Pulp Fiction…

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New meme for the kids: save your ❤️ for your first love, say no to the vax and myocarditis.

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Is Pfizer trying to get ahead on a potential situation???

https://presscalifornia.com/2021/10/28/pfizer-vax-kids/

DON'T VAX THE CHILDREN !!

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Jesus wept. My GOD what are they doing?!!!!! Evil, EVIL people. Resist this new level of child sacrifice people!!!

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From Nature Magazine.....Another Reason not to get Vaccinated !

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3

Large-scale COVID-19 vaccinations are currently underway in many countries in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we report, besides generation of neutralizing antibodies, consistent alterations in hemoglobin A1c, serum sodium and potassium levels, coagulation profiles, and renal functions in healthy volunteers after vaccination with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Similar changes had also been reported in COVID-19 patients, suggesting that vaccination mimicked an infection. ( Well, Duh !! )

Don't Vax the Children !!

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Anyone wondering how so many people collaborated with the Nazis or looked the other way; see the world around us now.

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it's like a replay in a different era.

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I always wondered. Now I know.

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What a chilling comment. Exactly how I feel too.

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The Nazis had a Health Passport...

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So true…

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Yeah I'm sure Hitler thought he was doing great and wonderful things for the world too.

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Almost all Germans did.

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This is exactly what's going on with my brother right now. SUPER fit athlete. Last week he was climbing a 12,000 foot summit. Had his first shot in May, got Covid in July and his second shot in September. My parents called me yesterday and said he was in the ER with heart issues. Now, he's had two doctors examine him and the test results. One say he's had a heart attack. The other says he's got acid reflux. Healthcare at it's finest.

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Our friend's son was a 21 year old male. Healthy, worked on fishing boat and could haul in 100 lb fish. No history of heart disease with himself or in the family. Second vax was late August. Died of a heart attack 2 weeks ago.

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Omg I’m so sorry!

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Sadly it’s the culling of the sheep

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No, it’s the pruning by the creeps…

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Maybe, but it's also stupidly unintentional on the part of some because they just don't want to believe the vaccines could do this. They're brainwashed too.

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https://rumble.com/search/video?q=rochagne%20Kilian

This is a Canadian doc who raised questions about the incidence of stroke, cardiac arrest, and TIA that she was seeing in her emerg department following the rollout of the shots in Canada. She has since been fired. She has another video about the D-Dimer test on Peter McCulloughs Telegram channel. Micro clots.

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I guess she was a 'good' one then...those effers

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Micro clotting - reminds me that some men are now experiencing ED (erectile dysfunction) and there is some talk relating it to the vax. We may here more about that coming up.

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My patient went to er a few days after her second jab complaining of chest pain and shortness of breath. She’s in her 20s. She was dismissed as being stressed and they didn’t even bother testing her troponin levels . Unbelieveable

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Only people who are seriously mentally impaired or regime-loving, boot-licking sycophants don't see what is happening. And among that brilliant group those who can see it happening right in front of their lying eyes won't accept it because, like true religious zealots, it will destroy their recently acquired world view.

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You underestimate how many people watch the TV news and think they are getting the news and leave it at that. Something has to come along to read pill a person.

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Like a Black Swan event. Something so jolting that cannot be denied. Black Friday. Lennon’s assassination. 9/11.

How about massive kids deaths after the jab?

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Remember hearing how the vaxxed would speak out and say that all people who refuse the vax are just morons? What about now?

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my brother says to me today: well i dont want to believe that its a bioweapon and people we know might die. um.....news flash.....reality does not give a shit whether you like reality or not. it still is reality. as though i find great joy in this new world that i fight hard against every day. as though somehow having this world view is a choice that one can make once given the information. well i suppose it is a choice actually. blue pill red pill. with 4 dear children of my own i am unfit to parent if i do not make choices to protect them at the core. i am dismayed at how many parents continue to send their kids to school even though they are forced to mask and soon forced to get poisoned. neglect. child abuse. crimes against humanity. I was listening to dr zelenko speak today while i made dinner and he spoke often about those of us who are fighting being Gods consciousness and i truly believe this.

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But hey the way the clot shot is taking out the athletes maybe I can become a pro golfer in 2024

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LOL and I'll be a tennis star!!!

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I gotta get my snap hook under control first….

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Remember....See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil is a Covid Vaccine side effect. Just coincidences!

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Joseph Stalin's Playbook!

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As I've mentioned elsewhere in this thread, some people may just be afraid to face what they've let themselves in for by taking the jab. If they acknowledge that other people have died or become disabled from the jab, then maybe they too will....but no, it's too frightening to think about. Deny, deny, deny. In a way, I feel sorry for these types -- until I hear them jeering at someone who got sick without the jab, even if they themselves got sick FROM the jab.

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They give true religious zealots a bad name :-(

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Interesting observation. What group makes up a large percentage of BLM supporters? Does that coincide with the majority of vaxx zealots?

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I'd say we'd have to better refine "BLM supporters", to distinguish those who might actively gather and peacefully protest actual transgressions and injustices vs those who virtue signal with lawn signs to show their constant stream of domestic workers and delivery drivers just how woke they are. Locally, at least, the most Arden supporters of vaxx passports and mandated jabs are quite happy to stay in and have masked underlings serve them.

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Ardent supporters!

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Shouldn't it be "Ardern" supporters? As in Jabcintha Ardern :)

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I'd say that's correct- and a clue that the public relations pros are hard at work keeping the attention on the monty game currently happening. People should be asking - loudly and often - just WHY the constant misdirection?

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Actually the .gov sponsored riots last year were done to delay lockdown protests.

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Too bad it doesn’t happen to the kids or grandkids of those who mandate but they’re families are exempt.

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