So let’s get this into language we deplorable’s use. They lied to us that the shots prevented you from getting Covid-19. They lied to us that the shots prevented transmission. They lied to use when they said it reduces hospitalization. They lied to us when they said it reduces death if you contract Covid-19. They lied to us when they said it was safe. They lied to us when they said it wasn’t engineered in a lab and that it didn’t leak from a lab. Covid-19 has been nothing but a lie from Day 1. I continue to resist the notion that this was released on purpose but I am questioning why should I believe anyone whose has lied to me about everything else.
If there is an upside to Covid it has been absolutely unbelievably illuminating how much our government lies to us and how corrupt it is. It is truly sad and disgusting. I certainly was a proud American and never considered myself a conspiracy theorist, but at this point you could probably add those to being a deplorable!
I am grateful to this community where all of us “nuts” can come together from all sides of the political spectrum. Where we can discuss truth among “family” even as the outside world labels us every derogatory name they can think of.
At this point, I too question everything about Covid no matter how crazy it sounds!
I believe that they lie because they don't want to increase vaccine hesitancy. Apparently, all of the useless and negative effects of the vaccine don't matter. It seems absolutely illogical but they simply won't say anything if it might increase vaccine hesitancy.
I think that's right. The CDC in particular, has operated in this fashion with respect to other vaccine controversies. It explains why, for example, they went out of their way to do "studies" that "proved" that combining many multiples of vaccines into one dose given to infants and children caused no harmful effects - but then they quietly, relatively speaking, stopped advocating the protocol of combining quite so many childhood vaccines into one shot. "There's nothing wrong with what we did! but hey, we're going to stop doing it now."
Great job of summing it up! Definitely done intentionally by some people at the top. (I'm looking at you, Fauci.) What's been more disappointing to me is to see all the sheep that followed, regardless of at first anecdotal, then rigorous evidence to the contrary on each of your points.
An aside, Dr. Phil schooled the “ladies” on The View today about the worthlessness and damage of school lockdowns… Whoopi was apoplectic… “ do you mean to say??” .. in the mean time she’s been maxxinated , and keeps getting COVID….
you give the women on the view too much credit for possibly being aware Dr. Phil was right. Agree on what you say, but also believe they simply are lost in the deep psychotic abyss to even know what Dr. Phil was sayin
Well, that is frightening as Hell!! Really? They’re not lying? They believe what they’re saying?? That’s crazy!! Bordering on Howard Hughes crazy…. OMG!!!
my kids think i'm the best dad in the world, but it's only because they have an extremely limited perspective, so i don't really have to work as hard as some of these other dads, and i still get the same credit
I agree, but at this point, it’s malpractice by the media if there were such a thing. Denying and choosing to ignore all anecdotal evidence that is negative is grossly irresponsible…. Are they all vaxxed, are their kids??
It was a shit show! But Dr. Phil was great. Dud you see his Joe Rogan podcast? He was cut off my a commercial break so the morons on the show could regroup.
So early treatment was surpressed, banned even, people died who should still be alive, the unvaxxed were treated like criminals (and worse), the vax injured were gaslit, people lost their jobs/careers/professional reputations, the middle class evaporated, the military was gutted, children were robbed of their education etc, etc.
And its been clear from early in 2021 that breakthrough infections were real, so the shots were not stopping anything - yet mandates were imposed, and these useless/harmful shots even made it onto the childhood vax schedule.
Curiously, there have recently been small acknowledgments in the media about vax injuries - described as so rare, of course - maybe its media's way of trying to take the air out of the balloon they filled to bursting with their lies and denials. Yet the constant idiotic 'nudging' to take yet another booster continues....
So who else is reading about the outcomes in really sick patients being worse for the vaccinated than the unvaccinated besides Alex? I'm sure it's basically nobody.
People who drank the cool aid, or peddled it, DO NOT WANT TO KNOW OR ADMIT the horrors of the last three years were perpetrated on us for NOTHING. And furthermore, this charade was created by the same people who brought the solution that ruined lives in every way imaginable and they are now not only giving themselves awards for what they've done, they are still in power! How can all the truths of this nightmare that are now known and documented not be exploding all over front pages, the internet and talk shows everywhere in the world?
But they are not. Nope. The wheels of the vax power mill just keep on rolling as if nothing happened even as they are promising us there will be another pandemic coming right along that will be much more deadly. Audaciously they are also promising they will be ready to save the day with ....wait for it.....another useless and harmful 'vax'. Ugh.
We need political house-cleaning and fumigation of certain bureaucracies. Blanket amnesty for vax dissidents. Some legal recourse for wrongful termination. Legal action against pharma if willful deception can be proven (which it might well in some cases).
The environment is still not conducive to open discussion, even in the US.
You are right many people don't want to revisit things, but that's not the sole reason we're stuck.
“the Ohio State researchers also reported vaccinated patients tended to have higher IgG4 antibody levels during their third week of hospitalization.”
That’s your answer. The vaccinated had less symptoms due to immune intolerance as the virus invaded deeper into their bodies. Their bodies ignored the virus rather than attack it. By the time the symptoms appeared, it was already too late. The unvaccinated had symptoms earlier on so hospital treatments were more effective because the disease did not advance as much.
A very simplified version of Geert’s scientific explanation.
Tripping is inevitable. Pointing at what you tripped over, admitting a clumsy moment, and diligently moving forward is honorable. Time to head down, and move forward.
I can’t see how we are able to quantify anything reliably. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated were mislabeled. Natural immunity was exponentially increasing from the beginning and some got the jab on top of it. The whole thing is a cluster f...k , just like they want it . Pardon my French.
People need to understand that patients who are treated with mRNA shots and become hospitalized in ICU PCU SICU. each patient is different with different comorbidities some 5 or more. It makes it difficult to treat a patient because nobody knows how different medications are going to interact with each patient's comorbidities and the medication they are already on. What our government did was wrong on a large scale because these mRNA shots are not tested in real-time and from 2020 to today it has been no fun because of unknowns of the outcome of true data. Again not every MD works or deals with viral pneumonia in a hospital setting. Many claim they do but less than 2% do most hospitals don't have a critical care team in place or the beds for these types of patients. Most of these people who claim they do took a trip to Jupiter and got their degree at Costco. I am un mRNA never worn a mask and been in the hospital with these patients long before 2019 and the present. I don't live my life in fear 💯
I think if you wound up in the hospital with SARs C 19, you had a lot more wrong with you than a respiratory infection. Regardless of the jab status as it were…
I know of 4 fully vaccinated people now dealing with long covid. Two of them are Toronto Star columnists. Heather Mallick had a hard time containing her anger about being fully vaccinated and now dealing with long covid. Another fully vaxxed person who I know is having a horrible time with long covid. She has a pneumonia that won’t abate. Her doctor has tried everything. The fourth seems to pick up everything going around and has an incessant cough. I heard a doctor on a show called The Agenda telling people to keep up with their vaccinations in order to avoid long covid. Nobody seems to know what they’re talking about but dispense advice like they’re experts. I am vaccine injured after one Pfizer shot. Safe and effective follow the science was the most egregious lie. None of them knew what they were talking about.
Forgive me for pointing out a rather large elephant in this room: for the vast majority of people, you get covid and get over it without issues. No "protection" is needed. Diabolically, these injections were made necessary for travelling and going out.
Another "large elephant in the room" being ignored is all of us that are wise to the deleterious effects of the the DNA altering "vaccines" and are staying away from the injection sites causing them to spend mega dollars on advertising begging the public to come get your health altered forever.
"Yet the broad claim that mRNA jabs save lives even if they do not stop infection has become even more central to the vaccine sales pitch over the same period." Disappointingly, but probably unsurprisingly, this is still being pushed in promotions such as radio advertising in NYS for the shots. Actually the part about "...even if they do not stop infection" is left out.
I was going to make this comment yesterday. My brother with Leukemia (cll). Was the first one in my family to get the poison in March of 21. He was then the first one in our family to get COVID in September of 21. He was the only one who ended up in the hospital and by the Grace of God they didn't vent him and he survived. But after the shots he got shingles, pneumonia, blood clots in his lungs and rheumatoid arthritis. Also, deteriorating function of his kidneys.
So let’s get this into language we deplorable’s use. They lied to us that the shots prevented you from getting Covid-19. They lied to us that the shots prevented transmission. They lied to use when they said it reduces hospitalization. They lied to us when they said it reduces death if you contract Covid-19. They lied to us when they said it was safe. They lied to us when they said it wasn’t engineered in a lab and that it didn’t leak from a lab. Covid-19 has been nothing but a lie from Day 1. I continue to resist the notion that this was released on purpose but I am questioning why should I believe anyone whose has lied to me about everything else.
Exactly!!
If there is an upside to Covid it has been absolutely unbelievably illuminating how much our government lies to us and how corrupt it is. It is truly sad and disgusting. I certainly was a proud American and never considered myself a conspiracy theorist, but at this point you could probably add those to being a deplorable!
I am grateful to this community where all of us “nuts” can come together from all sides of the political spectrum. Where we can discuss truth among “family” even as the outside world labels us every derogatory name they can think of.
At this point, I too question everything about Covid no matter how crazy it sounds!
I believe that they lie because they don't want to increase vaccine hesitancy. Apparently, all of the useless and negative effects of the vaccine don't matter. It seems absolutely illogical but they simply won't say anything if it might increase vaccine hesitancy.
I think that's right. The CDC in particular, has operated in this fashion with respect to other vaccine controversies. It explains why, for example, they went out of their way to do "studies" that "proved" that combining many multiples of vaccines into one dose given to infants and children caused no harmful effects - but then they quietly, relatively speaking, stopped advocating the protocol of combining quite so many childhood vaccines into one shot. "There's nothing wrong with what we did! but hey, we're going to stop doing it now."
Great job of summing it up! Definitely done intentionally by some people at the top. (I'm looking at you, Fauci.) What's been more disappointing to me is to see all the sheep that followed, regardless of at first anecdotal, then rigorous evidence to the contrary on each of your points.
An aside, Dr. Phil schooled the “ladies” on The View today about the worthlessness and damage of school lockdowns… Whoopi was apoplectic… “ do you mean to say??” .. in the mean time she’s been maxxinated , and keeps getting COVID….
The pharmaceutical companies fund the view and most legacy media they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
you give the women on the view too much credit for possibly being aware Dr. Phil was right. Agree on what you say, but also believe they simply are lost in the deep psychotic abyss to even know what Dr. Phil was sayin
Well, that is frightening as Hell!! Really? They’re not lying? They believe what they’re saying?? That’s crazy!! Bordering on Howard Hughes crazy…. OMG!!!
well...who knows, but if they are like the DEMS I know who are only fed from the MSM tap its true.
exactly!
my kids think i'm the best dad in the world, but it's only because they have an extremely limited perspective, so i don't really have to work as hard as some of these other dads, and i still get the same credit
I agree, but at this point, it’s malpractice by the media if there were such a thing. Denying and choosing to ignore all anecdotal evidence that is negative is grossly irresponsible…. Are they all vaxxed, are their kids??
You might call it “misinformation.”
YES, that was worth the watch! It's heartening to see people with platforms speaking truth on the MSM (particularly the stuck up "ladies"). FINALLY!
It was a shit show! But Dr. Phil was great. Dud you see his Joe Rogan podcast? He was cut off my a commercial break so the morons on the show could regroup.
Maxxinated. Great description of vaccines then boosters then whatever they call them next.
WHY does Geert Vanden Bossche and Dr. Michael Yeadon's early foreshadowing keep resonating to this day...
So early treatment was surpressed, banned even, people died who should still be alive, the unvaxxed were treated like criminals (and worse), the vax injured were gaslit, people lost their jobs/careers/professional reputations, the middle class evaporated, the military was gutted, children were robbed of their education etc, etc.
And its been clear from early in 2021 that breakthrough infections were real, so the shots were not stopping anything - yet mandates were imposed, and these useless/harmful shots even made it onto the childhood vax schedule.
Curiously, there have recently been small acknowledgments in the media about vax injuries - described as so rare, of course - maybe its media's way of trying to take the air out of the balloon they filled to bursting with their lies and denials. Yet the constant idiotic 'nudging' to take yet another booster continues....
So who else is reading about the outcomes in really sick patients being worse for the vaccinated than the unvaccinated besides Alex? I'm sure it's basically nobody.
People who drank the cool aid, or peddled it, DO NOT WANT TO KNOW OR ADMIT the horrors of the last three years were perpetrated on us for NOTHING. And furthermore, this charade was created by the same people who brought the solution that ruined lives in every way imaginable and they are now not only giving themselves awards for what they've done, they are still in power! How can all the truths of this nightmare that are now known and documented not be exploding all over front pages, the internet and talk shows everywhere in the world?
But they are not. Nope. The wheels of the vax power mill just keep on rolling as if nothing happened even as they are promising us there will be another pandemic coming right along that will be much more deadly. Audaciously they are also promising they will be ready to save the day with ....wait for it.....another useless and harmful 'vax'. Ugh.
We need political house-cleaning and fumigation of certain bureaucracies. Blanket amnesty for vax dissidents. Some legal recourse for wrongful termination. Legal action against pharma if willful deception can be proven (which it might well in some cases).
The environment is still not conducive to open discussion, even in the US.
You are right many people don't want to revisit things, but that's not the sole reason we're stuck.
Alex the vaccines don't work. Period.
"safe and effective" Follow the science...be a good citizen. 15days to flatten the curve!
“the Ohio State researchers also reported vaccinated patients tended to have higher IgG4 antibody levels during their third week of hospitalization.”
That’s your answer. The vaccinated had less symptoms due to immune intolerance as the virus invaded deeper into their bodies. Their bodies ignored the virus rather than attack it. By the time the symptoms appeared, it was already too late. The unvaccinated had symptoms earlier on so hospital treatments were more effective because the disease did not advance as much.
A very simplified version of Geert’s scientific explanation.
Tripping is inevitable. Pointing at what you tripped over, admitting a clumsy moment, and diligently moving forward is honorable. Time to head down, and move forward.
I was unable to articulate this wbrettc, thanks for voicing it. I couldn’t agree more!
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. I assume that they'll just hope we will forget. I will never forget.
I can’t see how we are able to quantify anything reliably. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated were mislabeled. Natural immunity was exponentially increasing from the beginning and some got the jab on top of it. The whole thing is a cluster f...k , just like they want it . Pardon my French.
People need to understand that patients who are treated with mRNA shots and become hospitalized in ICU PCU SICU. each patient is different with different comorbidities some 5 or more. It makes it difficult to treat a patient because nobody knows how different medications are going to interact with each patient's comorbidities and the medication they are already on. What our government did was wrong on a large scale because these mRNA shots are not tested in real-time and from 2020 to today it has been no fun because of unknowns of the outcome of true data. Again not every MD works or deals with viral pneumonia in a hospital setting. Many claim they do but less than 2% do most hospitals don't have a critical care team in place or the beds for these types of patients. Most of these people who claim they do took a trip to Jupiter and got their degree at Costco. I am un mRNA never worn a mask and been in the hospital with these patients long before 2019 and the present. I don't live my life in fear 💯
I think if you wound up in the hospital with SARs C 19, you had a lot more wrong with you than a respiratory infection. Regardless of the jab status as it were…
I know of 4 fully vaccinated people now dealing with long covid. Two of them are Toronto Star columnists. Heather Mallick had a hard time containing her anger about being fully vaccinated and now dealing with long covid. Another fully vaxxed person who I know is having a horrible time with long covid. She has a pneumonia that won’t abate. Her doctor has tried everything. The fourth seems to pick up everything going around and has an incessant cough. I heard a doctor on a show called The Agenda telling people to keep up with their vaccinations in order to avoid long covid. Nobody seems to know what they’re talking about but dispense advice like they’re experts. I am vaccine injured after one Pfizer shot. Safe and effective follow the science was the most egregious lie. None of them knew what they were talking about.
Forgive me for pointing out a rather large elephant in this room: for the vast majority of people, you get covid and get over it without issues. No "protection" is needed. Diabolically, these injections were made necessary for travelling and going out.
And for those with more severe illness, HCQ and IVM were extremely effective.
Another "large elephant in the room" being ignored is all of us that are wise to the deleterious effects of the the DNA altering "vaccines" and are staying away from the injection sites causing them to spend mega dollars on advertising begging the public to come get your health altered forever.
Can’t wait till you dig into Remdesivor…..
Remdesivir and ventilators are responsible for more deaths than the actual virus, in my opinion
So true
or as the nurses refer to it "run death is near" Just destroys Kidney function
"Yet the broad claim that mRNA jabs save lives even if they do not stop infection has become even more central to the vaccine sales pitch over the same period." Disappointingly, but probably unsurprisingly, this is still being pushed in promotions such as radio advertising in NYS for the shots. Actually the part about "...even if they do not stop infection" is left out.
I was going to make this comment yesterday. My brother with Leukemia (cll). Was the first one in my family to get the poison in March of 21. He was then the first one in our family to get COVID in September of 21. He was the only one who ended up in the hospital and by the Grace of God they didn't vent him and he survived. But after the shots he got shingles, pneumonia, blood clots in his lungs and rheumatoid arthritis. Also, deteriorating function of his kidneys.
Hate is hate is hate. Those in power have hardened their hearts against all who are not members of their diabolical club!
That is that correct adjective.