I was the most adamant pro-choicer for decades. Decades. And then they lost me when the fanatics decided a woman should have the right to abort the baby all the way up until the moment it literally comes out into the world. Utterly barbaric. I never dreamed I would join the pro-life side, but I have. If you have to wait until nine months to abort the baby, you are mentally ill and deserve to be charged with murder.
That said... let the states decide. Which is how it should have been handled in the first place.
The court is going to hand it back to the states. It is a political issue. Even RBG had her doubts about Roe. Whatever abortion is it is a legal problem for the states to legislate. It is not a constitutional right.
It is the taking of a human life. The poor baby has no rights except by his mother who can choose to end his life. Abortion is a stain on this country and it should be illegal. 50 million babies have been killed. There is no way they are all the result of incest and rape....that's such a tired argument from those who are pro abortion.
The women I know who have chosen abortion have done so because it would have been inconvenient to have a child. My guess is that most of the 50 million+ babies killed by abortion were done for that reason- inconvenience to the mother.
And I'm really tired of hearing for "the health of the mother". Since when can a baby not be delievered safely today? And partial birth abortion? Really? There is no justification for dismembering a baby and then delivering him. I think we will be judged harshly for that one.
Abortion is anything but rare....and it does stop a beating heart. Any woman (and yes, I do mean a biological woman) knows early on that the life growing inside her is a living little person. You can hear a heartbeat at 6 weeks...I know because I had an internal ultrasound then and saw my child at 6 weeks. 6 weeks......life. Human life is worth saving. Period.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
The wailing and gnashing of teeth over this by the people with no qualms pushing vaccines on everyone with a job (and more if they could get away with it) -it just blows my mind. Roe was always based on the thinnest of legal logic. The federal legislature should have codified Roe (or something like it).
Right, therefore, murder should be legal. Serial killers are going to murder, more than once. They will find a way if they want to kill. Why bother having deterrents and making it more difficult for a repeat offense? Right?
Regardless of anyone's opinions on Roe vs. Wade, the bigger concerns here are a) the timing of this leaked (from February 2022) draft at 8pm last night, the protesters that had assembled in front of the Supreme Court with professional pro-choice signage by 10pm last night, b) the WSJ Op-Ed 6 days earlier that had brought up the idea of SC overturning Roe vs. Wade, and c) the purely coincidental scheduling of Kamela Harris at a pro-choice conference this evening. Because there are no other topics a VP cares more about in the run up to November. It's like somebody dumping a bucket of chum overboard and all the fishies come swimming up to gobble. No fishy asks where the chum might come from. But now Roe vs. Wade is the hot topic, the only topic, the finger on the scale, the most important issue, although yesterday it was on nobody's radar.
I see a little difference between the defense of abortion and the historical defense of slavery. Democrats dehumanized slaves and babies by calling them “niggers” and “fetuses”. A woman’s “right to choose” is identical to the plantation owners right to control their “livestock and slaves”. They were all human then as today and Democrats hate those of us who defend those lives.
Yes, abortion is a tragedy. As a parent, I did have an abortion. I cried through the entire procedure and sometimes wonder "what if?" But at the time, it was my only option to save myself and my children from an abusive marriage. War is also murder, yet I don't see a lot of hand wringing about the war in Ukraine that the USA brought on and continues to fuel.
Nope. It is murder. No justification given should be considered.
Should women have a choice? Sure. They could choose not to have sex - or they can choose a diaphragm, a pill, an IUD, or any other method of birth control. In the case of rape or abuse, more leeway should be given, although I have met and know of many adults who were products of these situations, some who were raised by their birth mother and others who were adopted. Even rape or abuse should not necessarily end in abortion. What more beautiful way to redeem evil for good??
And in all cases of abortion, does the baby get a choice??? I find it ridiculous how people scream pro-choice, while denying just that to the most vulnerable.
Leave it up to the states, and then if someone needs to travel across state lines, I suppose they’ll find a way.
The pro-abortion stance is the reason I cannot even contemplate voting for a Democrat. I cannot support anyone who believes that ending an innocent life is an acceptable response to dealing with the consequence of the behavior of two people who, in the VAST majority of cases, knew exactly what they were doing.
I was the most adamant pro-choicer for decades. Decades. And then they lost me when the fanatics decided a woman should have the right to abort the baby all the way up until the moment it literally comes out into the world. Utterly barbaric. I never dreamed I would join the pro-life side, but I have. If you have to wait until nine months to abort the baby, you are mentally ill and deserve to be charged with murder.
That said... let the states decide. Which is how it should have been handled in the first place.
If this is in fact true, all it does is allow individual states to decide, which is very Constitutional.
The court is going to hand it back to the states. It is a political issue. Even RBG had her doubts about Roe. Whatever abortion is it is a legal problem for the states to legislate. It is not a constitutional right.
It is the taking of a human life. The poor baby has no rights except by his mother who can choose to end his life. Abortion is a stain on this country and it should be illegal. 50 million babies have been killed. There is no way they are all the result of incest and rape....that's such a tired argument from those who are pro abortion.
The women I know who have chosen abortion have done so because it would have been inconvenient to have a child. My guess is that most of the 50 million+ babies killed by abortion were done for that reason- inconvenience to the mother.
And I'm really tired of hearing for "the health of the mother". Since when can a baby not be delievered safely today? And partial birth abortion? Really? There is no justification for dismembering a baby and then delivering him. I think we will be judged harshly for that one.
Abortion is anything but rare....and it does stop a beating heart. Any woman (and yes, I do mean a biological woman) knows early on that the life growing inside her is a living little person. You can hear a heartbeat at 6 weeks...I know because I had an internal ultrasound then and saw my child at 6 weeks. 6 weeks......life. Human life is worth saving. Period.
Here's where the Constitution mentions abortion:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
This is a state matter.
The wailing and gnashing of teeth over this by the people with no qualms pushing vaccines on everyone with a job (and more if they could get away with it) -it just blows my mind. Roe was always based on the thinnest of legal logic. The federal legislature should have codified Roe (or something like it).
Right, therefore, murder should be legal. Serial killers are going to murder, more than once. They will find a way if they want to kill. Why bother having deterrents and making it more difficult for a repeat offense? Right?
Regardless of anyone's opinions on Roe vs. Wade, the bigger concerns here are a) the timing of this leaked (from February 2022) draft at 8pm last night, the protesters that had assembled in front of the Supreme Court with professional pro-choice signage by 10pm last night, b) the WSJ Op-Ed 6 days earlier that had brought up the idea of SC overturning Roe vs. Wade, and c) the purely coincidental scheduling of Kamela Harris at a pro-choice conference this evening. Because there are no other topics a VP cares more about in the run up to November. It's like somebody dumping a bucket of chum overboard and all the fishies come swimming up to gobble. No fishy asks where the chum might come from. But now Roe vs. Wade is the hot topic, the only topic, the finger on the scale, the most important issue, although yesterday it was on nobody's radar.
I'm just here for the COVID stuff. Good luck on the lawsuit. Big supporter.
Social opinions? Pass
No. A little murder is not ok.
I see a little difference between the defense of abortion and the historical defense of slavery. Democrats dehumanized slaves and babies by calling them “niggers” and “fetuses”. A woman’s “right to choose” is identical to the plantation owners right to control their “livestock and slaves”. They were all human then as today and Democrats hate those of us who defend those lives.
Yes, abortion is a tragedy. As a parent, I did have an abortion. I cried through the entire procedure and sometimes wonder "what if?" But at the time, it was my only option to save myself and my children from an abusive marriage. War is also murder, yet I don't see a lot of hand wringing about the war in Ukraine that the USA brought on and continues to fuel.
It’s isn’t about banning it. It should be the states’ decision, which 30 already allow.
Nope. It is murder. No justification given should be considered.
Should women have a choice? Sure. They could choose not to have sex - or they can choose a diaphragm, a pill, an IUD, or any other method of birth control. In the case of rape or abuse, more leeway should be given, although I have met and know of many adults who were products of these situations, some who were raised by their birth mother and others who were adopted. Even rape or abuse should not necessarily end in abortion. What more beautiful way to redeem evil for good??
And in all cases of abortion, does the baby get a choice??? I find it ridiculous how people scream pro-choice, while denying just that to the most vulnerable.
Leave it up to the states, and then if someone needs to travel across state lines, I suppose they’ll find a way.
You can take the guy out of the NYT but you can’t take the NYT out of the guy.
The pro-abortion stance is the reason I cannot even contemplate voting for a Democrat. I cannot support anyone who believes that ending an innocent life is an acceptable response to dealing with the consequence of the behavior of two people who, in the VAST majority of cases, knew exactly what they were doing.