I’ve been on his show three times - once to talk about the mental health dangers of cannabis, an appearance that came out of my book Tell Your Children, twice for Covid and the vaccines. Each time I spent far longer in the studio with him than anywhere else. We shook hands and chatted for a minute before sitting down and a couple minutes afterward.
Then he vanished and I walked to the car waiting for me. The third time I actually felt a little disappointed - Hey, Joe, can’t we hang out? Have a beer? Mainly tired, though. Three hours of intense conversation that millions of people are going to see will do that.
He’s a lot shorter than I am, and a lot stronger; and his security has increased notably since the first time I met him, in February 2019, in those halcyon pre-Spotify days. Now he works from an anonymous office park in Austin, Texas. But back then he was in Los Angeles, in a studio the size of a warehouse and filled with cool toys: vintage guitars, vintage posters, a pool table. Apparently his car collection was at the far end of the warehouse, though I didn’t see it.
The LA warehouse looked like what it was - the man cave to end all man caves, built by a guy who had won life’s lottery and could afford every pleasure he imagined. Rogan was no longer just a comedian. He had built a mammoth audience of young men, the hardest-to-reach and most coveted demographic in the media. Politicians and comedians and authors all clamored to be on his show.
Life was good.
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Now Joe Rogan’s in trouble.
Three points can ALL be true.
Rogan’s use of the n-word - and that Planet of the Apes story - are indefensible and humiliating and will haunt him for the rest of his career.
Our woke revolution has brought lots of linguistic rules I’ll argue. Not this one. That word has a unique history and power that give it a unique ugliness. The only slur remotely close might be “kike,” though even it doesn’t compare.
And the problems with the n-word are not new. When he was a Senator from New York, William Seward supposedly said that “no man will ever be President of the United States who spells ‘negro’ with two gs.'‘ That was more than 150 years ago.
So no, I am not going to defend Rogan for what he said. No one should.
Second, I don’t know what is in Joe Rogan’s heart. The clips of him saying the word - to me, anyway - mostly show an overgrown child, thrilled with the pleasure of being naughty, a comedian playing epater les bourgeois with the last unspeakable word rather than a irredeemable and malign racist.
The Planet of the Apes story is worse. Rogan - like all of us - is imperfect, and like many of us sometimes has dark thoughts about race and religion. We are trained, as we should be, to shoo those away and certainly never say them aloud. The fact he did shows at best terrible judgment.
The good news is that Rogan seems to have realized the harm of his words. His mortification appears genuine. I hope and suspect he will follow up his apology this weekend with more words and deeds. Not because he’s going to satisfy his critics, but because he should.
If he does, I hope people will listen to his apologies as closely as they have scrutinized his clips.
Third, what is happening to Rogan right now is not about his use of the n-word.
How do I know?
Because those clips have been around for years - more than a decade, in some cases. They long predate his Spotify deal. They are being used against him right now because they can be, because in having me and a handful of other vaccine and Covid skeptics on Rogan has driven the public health and media establishment mad.
I don’t know if these people believe Joe Rogan is all that stands between them and a Covid-free paradise. I don’t see how they could; they (some of them, anyway) must know the data from European countries with essentially universal adult vaccinations.
But the public health mandarins are both fearful and furious; they staked their political careers and medical reputations on vaccines that have provably failed. Joe Rogan is the last excuse and distraction they have left.
Now they are happy enough to beat him into submission with the hammer he’s given them. Whether or not he survives on Spotify, he has learned he is vulnerable. Very vulnerable. He risks being pushed to the 8chan fringes.
He also knows that maybe he can avoid that fate (assuming there aren’t more, and worse, clips). Along with apologizing - which he should do in any case - Rogan just has to stop asking too many questions about the billion-person medical experiment of 2021. Admit he’s just a comedian who didn’t actually understand The Science. Get back to safe and happy talk about psychedelics and universal basic income.
Put his jester’s hat back on, in other words. Leave Covid behind.
Or he can use his platform to keep asking hard questions.
What will Rogan do? Like I said, I don’t know him particularly well.
I can only hope he takes the hard road. Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Saying you are sorry in these days is telling the mob "Oh you are correct about me. I deserve to be punished"
They smell blood in the water at that point because they sense the fear and weakness.
Horrible society we have as apologies are important and people used to react in a dignified manner "apology accepted" when someone showed genuine remorse.
Today? You are saying to the mob "Yes I am very weak here. Continue to attack right this spot"
Even if Spotify lets him go, his empire will follow him to a decentralized podcast platform where his reach will end up increasing. Joe’s situation may end up being the catalyst for dynamic change. 🤞🏻
I agree with you... his followers will stay with him and he may very well add some because people are sick if this bullshit cancel crap. By these standards Biden should be cancelled for also using the n-word in a senate hearing back in the '80's (1986 I think)...not to mention his "affiliations" with klan members. Same with black-face Trudeau in the former governor of Virginia.
Anybody remember when Spotify was going to be some great thing for musicians? I'm a musician. I can tell you it's a great thing for less than 1% of them. Everybody else is just getting screwed imo. I canceled my Spotify subscription a long time ago but sadly not for the right reasons. 😂
And it should! It's now up to the majority of the population to tell these cancel culturers that they can go fuck themselves and that we're not going to let them continue to dictate how we live our lives and who we listen to. We need to get a bunch of as nasty ass people to go after these guys as they want to go after everybody else.
I am so over these web 2 models. So over the censorship. There's a bunch of people I listen to right now that have all been deep platformed in one way or another. And this is spring growth in these decentralized platforms. Loving it. Whatever Bitcoin and decentralized exchanges are to money I would love to see it for content creators.
When is all you people's hope going to and when will you realize something must done but you sitting at home hoping? Hoping is basically compliance at this point.
I bet he'd love nothing more than to get out from under the boot! Obviously a 100M contract would be hard to turn down, i bet he regrets it now though. Well, maybe.. probably not when he looks at his bank account so much
It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them- P.G. Wodehouse
He thought his endorsement of Bernie, the extremist socialist/fascist would protect him. But when Bernie’s authoritarian buddies came for him, all their knives were out.
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
I'm 66. I've no idea who Neil Young is. Judging by recent news, it seems he was a famous popular musician sometime in the past. I've zero interest in him. (I don't know anything about Spotify either.)
You are totally correct about this, and thank you for pointing it out. Anyone disagreeing with the Medico-Fascists and Thought Police must be crushed and his or her platform taken away -- a technique certainly familiar to Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler. The specter of George Orwell's "1984" draws closer and closer.
Spot on Monty. ALL of us here has done something we have regretted. We’re ALL sinners but we’ve ALL been forgiven via the blood of Jesus shed on the cross. https://www.gotquestions.org/sin-of-unbelief.html And BTW the ‘J’ word (not in vain) can be pretty divisive as well but in a GOOD way. Apologize for hurt and confess, accept God’s forgiveness claim Romans 8:28 28 “And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. “ and move on and don’t dwell on the past but look to the future.
Yes, it's a disappointing reaction by Rogan. But, I can't say I am totally surprised. Despite some heroic interviews and comments, I believe Joe's own views are a little too fluid, being a sort of open but still pragmatic liberalism. The issue is that this is not a foundation to stand upon when truly challenged. His principles are ill-defined and protean. Frankly, this is no great sin, because most Americans suffer from this issue. But, it matters when you are a public figure subject to attack. He stands upon sand.
He is a great conversationist, but adopting trendy Bernie leftism without critical feedback, or straw-manning Christians while showing great deference to other faiths, demonstrates he still wants to be popular more than right, and that he doesn't critically assess and pick through the ideas he hears in interviews. It seems each idea goes onto a clothes heap that he never sorts, and he looks at it from time to time when he needs a view of something.
Years ago at work, a Jewish coworker was telling Jewish jokes. That was a signal to others telling a joke they might know was OK. When they did, he was furious, deeply offended. I said to him, if you tell these jokes you are saying they are OK. The same rules have to apply to everyone. I recall, also years ago, blacks I knew used the "N" word, listened to songs with the "N" word. Now everyone is upset? This is about the wolves. No one can change the past. But people do change, and what is important is who they are now.
You ever say something mean about your family and then your friend jumps in and says something mean about them? And suddenly you feel defensive? It's all about assumptions of where it's coming from. I obviously mean my family no harm. It's not as obvious with my friend. The assumption everyone makes is that a Jewish person is not actually against Jews. But see it's more questionable when you're not from that group. It makes people feel uncertain and maybe uncomfortable. That's my observation on that one.
Well! Millions of people are dead because of a virus that was treatable with proven safe therapeutics that were prohibited; and millions more have been injured and thousands dead due to untested experimental drug shots pushed by the same cabal who condemned the therapeutics. Many of our seniors died suffering and alone without their families at their side because of the insane politicized health policies. Millions of children have been psychologically damaged and had two plus years stolen from their lives. And now the cancel culture hurtful language bug a boo is the critical topic de jour? Distraction! Get over it! The nasty language did not kill anyone!
Yes-we live in time when the giants of the past & present, people who made or make immeasurable contributions to civilization, are cleansed from history because far lesser, far more imperfect and frankly useless people discover that all human beings are flawed. They capitalize on this truth while simply ignoring this reality when it comes to the truly evil who recite the accepted mantra in hopes of getting or staying in the club. Like all decaying totalitarian societies, truth today is determined by those in power. The Orwellians in power need to make Joe see 1 plus 1 and believe in his heart of heart that these numbers add up to 3. Only then will they put him out of his misery. We live in dark times and are being overrun by ignorance and cowardice. The best solution for Joe would be to tell everybody whining to fuck off - that he will make peace with his past failures on his own time in his own way with those he has offended directly, not by answering to a media culture comprised predominantly of the worst humanity has to offer. But I bet he won’t.
Rogan is the only interviewer/journalist that is engaging in bridging conversations in our divided society. We are completely divided between the liberty loving and pragmatic, and people driven by feelings, fantasy and psychological defense mechanisms. With greed and power lust thrown in for good measure. A Tower of Babel. The Totalitarians need him gone. I'd advise he tell them to F O.
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
It's really such hypocrisy. You can hear the most hair raising blasphemies involving Jesus' name, round the clock everywhere. But say negro with two "gs" and you're tarred and feathered.
Hey, Alex and Joe were chortling over abortion a few months ago, a pair of callous pro-aborts laughing at prolifers. I've worked in the prolife movement for many years, having seen the damage and misery inflicted by abortion. Their flippant stupidity made me lose respect for both of them. But the very last thing I'd want is to cancel them.
Thank you Dennis. Seeing the two of them chuckling about abortion felt like watching people laugh about child sacrifice. No one deserves to be censored. The ignorant blather will eventually lead to someone, somehow, reaching them with a thought they may never have had.
I agree. God bless you for your efforts in protecting the most vulnerable and innocent. Among all the evil in the world, I believe nothing compares to the evil of the mass murder of unborn children. I don’t know how long it will take for the forces of good to overcome this evil, but years from now when people look back at this period we live in the people of the day will not believe humans could possibly willingly submit to the infanticide of the slaughter of millions of unborn innocents. Without a doubt the biggest travesty in human history.
thank you! thank you for bringing this conversation back to perspective.
the bottom line is harm.
how many people were killed by joe rogan using the N-word 10 years ago? 0. how many people are being killed and injured by this pharma-great reset-new world authoritarianism...whatever you want to call it thing. millions. is joe rogan saving lives by getting the message out on early treatment? have Malone and McCullough saved lives by speaking on free platforms?
Don't forget the damage academically. How much farther down the testing pole will our country be compared to others when it comes to the lack of education all of our students have experienced? Young children don't like the struggle to learn when their base instruction has been massacred due to "distance learning". Watching a child struggle to learn when he/she has been treated horribly in very early elementary classes is maddening, to say the least. It is amazing how our "elected" (loosely defined) politicians have not thought about that part of this nightmare they have willing gone along with and/or help develop & push the growth of it.
Yes. Well said! As well, the whole government controlled education system needs “fundamental transformation”; kids were already getting a poor education.
Since when did "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me" become false? When the left started weaponizing speech against their enemies. Or at least *some* of their enemies. For example, the person occupying the Oval Office right now, Mr. Biden, is on video--easily findable if you care to look--saying the "n-word" [I'd spell it out if I wasn't certain the post would be rejected] a couple of times IN A SENATE HEARING. So William Seward was wrong. (He was also a vicious anti-free-speech proto-Gestapo chief so the modern left would love him.)
It's just a word. It's not Lord Voldemort. Calling someone the n-word is disgusting and unacceptable, but just referring to it in conversation is just talking. Grow up. No one is "offended" if someone says, like Rogan, "I would never call someone a n1&&3r." It's all performance theater.
I tell the kids if they hear someone say “words are violence” that that person is unable to have a rational argument and are just trying to shut you up. However with Rogan’s Bernie endorsement I don’t trust his judgment. Freedom and socialism are incompatible.
The sting of words only lasts as long as the hearer ("victim"?) allows them to, either by choice or a weak psyche. While I concede this is a risk, does it justify censoring speech, just because some snowflake might take offense? Letting unhappy words sour one's day is captured in the streetwise saying "Letting someone live in your head rent-free."
A word is just that: a word. A series of letters on a page, a sequence of sounds. In itself, it has no meaning at all, save for what we attribute to it. A stand-in for a person, place, thing or general concept. It's true that throughout history, words have been ascribed great, sometimes god-like powers. Or the opposite: they may signify nothing, as when written laws or rules are ignored. Most of the time, of course, they steer a middle course: they are a useful way to communicate ideas. Indeed, without them, probably anything resembling civilization would be impossible.
But fundamentally, a word has only the power we give it, no more and no less.
Spot on! When emotions run a person instead of reason, you get hurt feelings strung out in time in a never ending pity party. This is narcissist behavior.
It's true that words evoke emotion, but reason manages emotion. When people are out of balance, emotion can run their lives.
Some of the best counseling I ever had in confession was this: your words affect everyone for better or worse.
That said, silencing people is no way to go in a free society. We have to be prepared to take the consequences of our words, along with the people we affect by them.
i think determining racist is about harm. you use the n-word to encourage racist violence or policy that's racism. was someone harmed by this podcast? beaten? turned down for home loan? business closed down? experimented on with a new pharma product?
no. people didn't like it. well, there are plenty of things i don't like too. i don't like 0 liability on a product that's mandated. i don't like commercials insulting me. i don't like 90% of the infotainment or social media. should we ban them?
I think the saying is "Sticks and stones can beak my bones, but words can never hurt me."
Words can hurt people. I've been subjected to death threats. They are definitely hurtful.
My mother (long dead now) was at times emotionally unstable and hysterical, and would scream at me. Sometimes she would insult or curse me. Her words were extremely hurtful, so much so that I wanted to run away from home. I think I'd have been better off in the long run if I had.
While words can, indeed, be deeply hurtful, (maybe even more than sticks and stones), no one forces anyone to listen to a podcast and no one should be given the means to cancel a voice simply because someone _else_ might be listening. These damned Bolsheviks are threatened by people thinking for themselves.
Dear Alex, who did you think needed to hear the first half of your piece?
Who were you writing at?
Joe? No. Why would he want to hear that…
Us? No, we appreciate you as you are and enjoy your work.
Then who?
It pains us to have to wade through yet another diatribe of “I don’t agree with that word and it’s a terrible word!!!”
Like we really feel better for you revealing the obvious.
Please leave the mea culpa where it belongs. Unsaid.
If you really feel that people who understand your writing need to hear you distance yourself just because you had been on Joe Rogan show, then you don’t understand your audience, your true audience.
I agree David. I too was left slack jaw after reading this piece about Rogan as you. It appears Alex is doing a woke distancing, indeed. A man who gave him a platform to speak and reach millions 3 times, for hours as well. I wonder if Rogan had asked him to to hang out like he had hoped, maybe then Alex would have put his use of writing in a better more forgiving light?
So many, comedians of non color have used this would, & many times. The 1st who comes to mind is, Howard Stern. Do I think his using of the word that shall not be mentioned, revealed a dark clandestine side to Howard, NO! He has said & done a plethora of extremely stupid things over the course of his multi decade career that I didn't agree with & guess what, I would turn his show off when I didn't want to listen.
Alex, you're disappointing piece did a great disservice to yourself. Maybe it reveled something you hold in your heart? Being upset that the guy who did so much for you & your platform by not asking you to hang out with him after sitting down & talking with you for 3+ hours for a 3rd time? I am deeply saddened to have come to see this side of you.... I guess you've been perfect all your life, even when joking around doing/saying stupid shit?
He wrote it for me. I had no idea about any of the examples Alex mentioned or the fact that there is a woke whack attack going on against Rogan that goes beyond a few washed up rock stars looking for even more money.
Unless there happens to be a rerun of Talk Radio that happens to be on a channel I'm flipping by I'm not going to be seeing much of Joe or understand outside of Covid what anyone might have on him, not that I care about an N-word reference or Planet of the Apes reference.
While I don't care about those events, it's good to have context on how standing against one topic will open you up for being attacked on others and what they are. It's the reason a lot of people don't go into politics.
My opinion of Joe has not changed, yet, but if he caves to the cancelers and for money it will. Because he doesn't need to.
He has grown stronger thru this. Joe stepped up and takes responsibility for all his actions-words which I respect. Sure he does not ever have to apologize, but the way he does is the way it should be. His right to protect his reputation is on HIM and should never be about what other think of him. His remarks as of late for taking responsibility for what he has said is admirable. Not many have the clout Joe has and his followers love what he stands for!
Agreed, Owning and caving are two different things. Plus my opinion of him accounts for nothing. It was good to have a little preemptive context though in case I see some new attack stories.
I think I found out everything I needed to know about Alex when he took cheap shots at Malone. I appreciate his Covid coverage, but I'm guessing he wouldn't be the first friend to call if you were in trouble.
After going through Alex's piece twice, plus reading all of the less-than-pleased commentary from his subscribers, I was tending towards concluding that sometimes the best choice is indeed to say nothing at all. You're right, most of this is obvious (except, IMO, the observation that multiple points here can be true at once, and the terrible advice that Joe should offer ADDITIONAL apologies, ie, grovel). And since I of course don't know Alex's heart, I wondered how much of a pure defensive move this might be on Berenson's part. But now I think maybe, just maybe, Alex wrote this entire piece, not just one portion of it, to an audience of one person only: Joe Rogan. Why not just call him up? He doesn't know him that well. Plus, a public challenge is always good. Hey, Joe, what will you be known for when it's all said and done? Hanging tough and calling out the liars on one of the biggest issues of our time? Or retreating into court jesterdom?
Yeah why not call Rogan. I mean the first bit of this reads as "hey this guy that said that bad thing... We are not really good friends" so like I'm not guilty by association. And what he did is definitely really bad there's no way a person could use that word without it being bad. Really? Aren't there a bunch of Mark Twain classics where child characters drop the n word? So if I'm reading Huck Finn and say the n word And someone makes a clip montage of that... I guess I'm racist? I guess there was no excuse? So I'm bad?
Well I'm glad I am not creating media because I would have been canceled so many times by now. 😂
Extremely well said! But we must remember, at his heart, Alex is what he is. I'm thankful for his book and his investigative journalism towards the vaccines, but at the end of the day he's going to be what he's going to be.
And what's that? Serious question. I only know him because if covid. And in that regard he seems stuck on stupid. Constantly beating the dead horse of efficacy, while ignoring completely the nefarious acts behind it as well as connections to the "not so great reset". Who is he really? I'd appreciate some insight. Thanks.
Alex remains a propagandist. He's ex-New York Times - that's as good as saying CIA.
They obviously know the crimes are going to become obvious. Alex's role is to drive the narrative that it all happened organically due to incompetence, and it's definitely not the orchestrated world plan that it actually is. Compare Pandemia ("Oh, what clowns are the authorities!") to RFK's The Real Anthony Fauci (thoroughly documented, decades-long plans).
Alex is very much team establishment, here to capture the opposition until it's time to stab it in the back. He's already stabbed Malone, now he's stabbing Rogan. And of course he's going to downplay election theft at every step.
This is interesting... I follow Alex not because of what he writes, because I find most of his posts weak and mostly not new news. I am here because of the comments, they are generally fantastic! And I agree too about RFK Jr's book - everyone should read it, and it seems obvious that Alex didn't. I bought both, but after reading the incredible disclosures by RFK, I couldn't get through Pandemia - weak pablum by comparison. Just my 2c, YMMV....
And one more thing, notice how Alex doesn't respond to comments, like many other Substack writers do? That says something, I think....
What I like about Robert Kennedy is that he calls out what's obvious. These pharmaceutical companies aren't ignorant. Neither is Fauci. You don't make billions of dollars in the business world by being incompetent. A lot of people just give them a pass. They say "It makes no sense" "they don't know what they're doing". BS. That might be true at the lower levels. Maybe in the middle. But not at the top.
If that's his plan, he sucks at it. My mind was made up before I ever heard of Malone, or Kennedy, or Alex. I was just looking for the data on this particular piece of the plan, which he has provided generously.
I think the real issue here isn't about racism or the n word. The real issue issue is how a free society is drifting towards authoritarianism with censorship.
It's a very old story where someone tries to tell the truth in a threatens power. And then that power retaliates by taking whatever the Achilles heel is of the moment (racism, trans rights, sexual misconduct) and tries to bring them down. Not saying that those things can't be real issues. But I think people need some perspective. We are talking about drifting towards authoritarianism where your freedoms will go away vs I was offended by a podcaster.
A manufactured virus that shuts down the world's economies. A vaccine that is unsafe and ineffective... Killing how many? Impacting how many people's long-term health? How many people died from Joe dropping the n word ?
I hope Joe realizes what's going on here. And hopefully in old school Joe Rogan fashion calls it out. You know when he took the Spotify deal I started to see him soften around the edges. $100 million is going to do that to people.
No, the N word is a power play. If it had the impact you suggest, blacks wouldn’t use it in virtually every sentence. I wish there was such outrage when Christ’s name is used in vain but there’s no political advantage in that.
And why is it that the dissident, the truth seeker courageous enough to speak truth to the mob and to tyrants has to kneel and ask forgiveness? The corporate-establishment media do NOTHING but spin lies: Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, Weapons of Mass Destruction, no one saw the financial collapse coming, Trump is a Russian agent, Russian bounties in Afghanistan, Hunter Biden’s laptop is a Russian opp, most of the January 6th narrative, get vaxxed and you won’t get Covid, the vaccines are safe & effective, Ivermectin is deadly, Joe Rogan eats horse dewormer, etc., etc., etc.
Joe Rogan did something wrong. Fine. The tyrants trying to crucify him do everything wrong and are wicked.
You underestimate Rogan. He is a very nice guy who wants to do the right thing, but he has spent his entire life as a student of hand to hand combat and conflict. The last couple of weeks he has taken some blows and given up the round, but you forget the man is a fighter; and keeps company with other fighters and warriors. And these are the people he trusts for advice, definitely not journalists or media personalities.
In Jordan Peterson's words - "is Joe Rogan on Spotify, or is Spotify on Joe Rogan".
In a years time he will have 20mn listeners per episode, from 10 or 11 or whatever, and during election season politicians will be falling over themselves to get on his podcast.
So what if he supported Bernie? I supported Hillary for a while before changing my mind. I thought Trump was a lunatic before changing my mind. I thought vaccines worked before changing my mind. I thought masks worked before changing my mind. I thought DeSantis was meh before changing my mind and thinking he is literally the leader of the free world. It happens, don't be so tribal.
It isn't tribalism, it is factualism. Look at what the national socialists did to Germany. The socialists, communists and fascists did to China, Russia, Venezuela, NK, and Cuba etc. For a 50-something year old to support socialism - any form of authoritarianism whether fascism or communism etc - shows suspect judgment or a lack of knowledge or a willingness to subjugate entire populations for some financial gain. It shows someone, perhaps, wanting to appease someone and buy forbearance.
I wasn't a student of history until Covid. I agree with everything you're saying, but its a bit unfair to expect everyone to know it. You can't take Rogan that seriously. Take his GUESTS seriously, but he is just a comic/fighter/commentator/podcaster who likes aliens and DMT and somehow found himself behind the most popular podcast in the world
There were tons of historical events that I didn't even know happened, let alone the circumstances and political situation around them. I consider myself far enriched as a result (now) and understand far more acutely WHY individual freedoms are so important. Even comic JP Spears did a video about-face about his stance on guns.
My views on so many things changed in 2020/21. I feel like I aged 20 years. I am sure I'm not alone.
You are just growing up. This is not a self help site, that would be best suited for you. We don’t care about your life story. You sound like a narcissist. Please go get another 20 years wiser before you come back. Learn to listen instead of bragging about your ignorance. Best of luck.
Your claims about yourself just mean you are extremely dull and slow witted.
Hopefully you have learned from your past stupidity and misjudgments although it doesn’t look like it since you are bragging about it and not smart enough to keep your mouth closed.
My mom had a saying about loud mouths and empty minds…
Agreed that he is wrong about Bernie, but does that make him wrong about everything? I don’t think so. His greatest asset in my opinion is his ability to talk with, and listen to people of all political persuasions, backgrounds, occupations. Some I admire, others not so much. Makes for intellectually stimulating and entertaining podcasts, though.
I didn't say he is wrong about everything, but if you want to attack a strawman, that is okay. What it does for me is to make me question his judgment and not accept that he is as he is being portrayed - some type of "every man". Perhaps he repented after that Bernie nonsense given who he said he voted for in the general election, but a libertarian and socialist authoritarian are about as polar opposite as you can get. Given he could swing from 180 degrees in the space of about half a year makes me wonder what his true beliefs really are.
I'm just going to remind everyone that Rogan talked about ivermectin too. And monoclonal antibodies. He took both of them when he had his brief bout with COVID. In terms of MSM media beatings, it was his talking about the Horse Dewormer that got him tossed into the penalty box. I got the sense he loved it.
So why is "the gang in charge" panicking now and pulling out all the stops? I'm guessing they are looking ahead to the most-likely-disastrous 2022 midterms, and they're terrified he'll say something they don't like and can't control.
I get the sense they want to "tell the truth slowly" about the shots. In order to save face. And Rogan might not let them do this. And it could definitely affect the outcome in November. So Rogan has to go.
that was fantastic. Thank you. It is so obvious that this is just a hit piece on Rogan because people with the virus are not supposed to survive without an expensive trip to the hospital, remdesivir, and a ventilator. Rogan gave people inexpensive and less expensive alternatives and is exposing their evil, to a different audience than Alex.
So Alex is cool with condemning Rogan for using a word.
Anyone else see the irony there? Alex got cancelled for using words that were considered off limits, too.
As long as people allow others to dictate what words they can use -- and that includes ALL words -- then that weakness will be used to silence them.
Stand up for free speech. Period. Even slurs. Because there's nowhere to draw the line. If any speech is off limits, then all speech is at risk. So speak your damn mind. If someone accuses you of being a racist because of it, the correct answer is not "No I'm not." It's not "I'm sorry.
He can't be cancelled. If Spotify cans him he can go to Rumble or go federated. People will follow and it will be a big step forward for those platforms and push one more big woke platform slowly closer toward irrelevancy.
The only bad outcome would be if Spotify neutered him somehow. Surely he had his contract designed so they couldn't do that.
All races are “racist.” Blacks are particularly racist. They use any word they want. Rap songs are full of every imaginable form of bigotry and racism. They are racist against their own race. I’m tired this type of cucking by Alex. You speak no truth about race. No truth about the double standard. No truth about the N word. There has never been a word outlawed like this. Stop apologizing. Start fighting back with truth.
If you think Alex is "controlled opposition," you don't know what controlled opposition is. And if here were controlled opposition, the regime would not be trying to silence him. They love and adore the controlled opposition.
I don't know if I agree with all of Alex's take... but he is 100% right on one thing. He would not be under the slightest iota of pressure if he conformed with the covid narrative. This is the real reason they want to take him down.
Joe should not apologize. I’m tired of the word games. If your skin is one color you can use a word, if it’s another you can’t. Done, don’t care. One word doesn’t define one’s character. Joe should be Joe without worry or apology.
The video is also a set up, planned attack on Joe to try to take him down, to earn power points by taking such a huge-followers-person down. You're right.
Montezuma said it nicely. Don’t do the apology your. You’ve said you’re sorry once. Once too many for my liking but now you’d better stand firm. Or you’re history. People that like you like you for a reason. Don’t give them a reason to stop.
I completely disagree with your take on Rogan. In the first place, we all know, or at least should suspect, that this has nothing to do with some insensitive racial slurs, and everything to do with a popular host interviewing Covid-19 heretics like Malone etc.
With the assumption that his two unpardonable utterances were from comedy skits, precisely what has he done wrong? If they were in the context of a comedy skit or other performance, traditionally artistic license is granted. If he made the remarks at a KKK or Neo-Nazi rally, a dinner party or even at a bar with friends, perhaps they are less defensible. These "incidents" I'm assuming happened many years ago, now recently dug up (how conveniently) by Woke agents looking for dirt. Is this the best they can do? This is as pathetic as the movement last year to get a rock removed form the campus of the University of Washington because a century earlier someone in an obscure publication had used a racial epithet to describe it.
Rogan is even more at fault for playing the penitent victim, and going along with the Left's morality play. If he had any balls he should have said something like: "I don't give a damn about your woke sensitivities. I said what I said. And I will continue to as long as the First Amendment exists." If Rogan had any balls, he should have lashed out ferociously not only against his would-be censors, but also Spotify, demanding they keep all his episodes on line, or else he could take his business elsewhere. His actions already prove that he, perhaps was made "an offer he couldn't refuse," but in any case, he and Spotify have caved.
Even if people think I'm off base here, defending Rogan, consider this: this is just the latest incident where the Left attack their current target using perhaps-real, but utterly trivial, "sins" dredged up from their victim's past. There is simply no making peace with such enemies. The situation is little different than a hapless victim being persecuted in the Middle Ages by the Church, claiming she was a witch. How would one ever disprove the allegation?
He should never have apologized. That’s because it always looks disingenuous to apologize after being called out. There is no way to convince anyone of his “sincerity” - except that he knows to make a calculated decision to apologize.
Joe Rogan is a manlet true but Alex Berenson is surprisingly tall!
As for the 14th letter of the alphabet word that can't be said I think it is crazy. Saying it with a hard R makes you worse than a pedophile but saying it with an "a" ending is cool? Oh as long as you aren't white. If you are white then stay away.
Is there a word that other groups use against Europeans? Yes, plenty. Nobody cares though certainly not white people.
So we should ask ourselves why white people are expected to behave and react like adults but black people are expected to behave like children, and so we must protect them from the hurty words that hurt feelings. This is a pretty racist expectation in itself if you think about it.
Actually nobody is more offended by the 14th letter of the alphabet word than Liberal white women.
Walking past a homeless starving black man and not feeding him BECAUSE you don't like the colour of his skin? I think those actions are disgusting. Saying a word? Yeah, not in the same ballpark. Actions speak louder than words IMO
Mayor Eric Adams called white cops "crackers" when campaigning in 2019. MSM treats him with kid gloves, he apologizes, and everyone moves on. Nobody called for his resignation. Definitely a double standard.
Does everyone have amnesia? Let me narrow that down: does everyone over the age of 50 have amnesia? N-word was a common "street" word. It would be next to impossible to have grown up back then without having heard that word used frequently and with abandon. In the street. I am a child of the '50s. My mother didn't permit its use in the home as it was "vulgar". She didn't use the term "racist". Just "vulgar". We were taught to say "colored people" instead. My point is that you will be hard-pressed to find anybody of a certain age who has not used that word. It was part of the "vulgar" vocabulary. Even Joe Biden used it in the Senate (in a certain context). Does anybody remember that? The upshot is that we have evolved light years since the time when there was a "nickname" for every ethnicity imaginable. Over time, "nickname" became "slur". So can we please get over the holier-than-thou crap? "Slurs" are out. And that's a good thing. PS I count "cracker" among them. You?
Disagree. Its a word. That is all. Its bandied about carelessly by one racial segment, and totally verboten by another. It's a double standard, and giving this word some sort of holy significance is stupid. Rogan should not have apologized. He should simply have pledged not to say the word in the future (if that is his intent) and left it at that. Let guilty whites clutch their pearls, who cares?
Sadly, this is your absolute worst take. People are human and I’m sorry but we need to judge in the context of time. You’re one example of the senator is not indicative of the norm at the time. Go back to Howard stern in black face. Look at what other people were saying.
Furthermore, he didn’t talk to you after?!? He had you on which outside of Tucker is a ton more than everyone else.
Super disappointed by this backstabbing, petty post. You’re better than this. This is a war and your teammates are human. Pointing that out just gives points to the enemy. And like you said, this isn’t about an offensive racial word. It’s about that he had YOU on. Way to show appreciation😞
Howard Stern has said much worse and has appeared in blackface makeup. They don’t try to cancel him because he tells the lies they expect him to tell and won’t question his masters.
Alex just used his substack to distance himself from Rogan and damage control. It begins and ends the same: "I don't know Joe Rogan that well." All the stuff in the middle is word salad.
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
So sick and tired of this N word hysteria crap. Until EVERYONE is outlawed from saying it, no matter what your skin color ,then spare me the moral outrage. It's either a bad word or it isn't. And apparently for a certain group it's still ok to use. I'm so over all of this crap. Its like the word racist. It means nothing anymore.
He's said a lot of crazy shit. I listen to the podcast not necessarily for what Rogan says, but for the guests he has on. My wife listens to him as does my teenage daughter. I would argue if he's winning over this demographic, then he'll take the hard road.
The difference between you and Joe? Simple. He doesn’t persecute you for your mistakes. Seriously Alex, who is pulling your strings, and who have they told you to slime next?
As a liberal, Joe Rogan didn’t pay attention to patterns, because if he did, he would have noticed that liberals, progressives, far left, Democrats NEVER, EVER, APOLOGIZE. And as a result, they NEVER, EVER EXPERIENCE ANY CONSEQUENCES. Now he is apologizing every day and Spotify is removing episode after episode. He was bigger than Spotify. He had the power- and he gave it back to them. Now they beat him over the head with it. He will be moving to another platform I predict.
I haven't listened to any of those clips. When everyone is called a racist, no one is a racist. Do we want to go back and read the lines Richard Pryor wrote for Blazing Saddles? Racism is a tired argument. The boy called "wolf" too many times.
I’m growing quite weary of these soapbox posts. I subscribe for investigative Covid reporting, not for your moral posturing. Besides, Carlin made a career out of it.
This may be the worst column you’ve written. Maybe worse than the Malone cheap shots. If you wanted to play the game, shit on someone who helped you, pile on, distance yourself and virtue signal, you succeeded. Five Stars!
BB, agreed. Also the article Alex commented on how fair and square elections are…does he not watch the court proceedings? does he not understand mathematical voting impossibilities? Just understands Covid math? That is very strange. Inconsistent.
Joe had Sanjay Gupta on then followed that with McCullough and Malone for balance - leave Joe Rogan alone.
Are ya gonna sell your Tesla or not buy one because Elon Musk tweeted “Canadian Truckers Rule” and “CB Radios are free from government/media control” and “freedom is being being stripped away one piece at a time until it is gone”
Why in the world would Joe bow down to hypocrites? He will never be forgiven. so why apologize. He’s not racist and everyone knows it. He’s just being attacked bc he shared the truth re the vax.
Free speech is under severe threat in this country. The fact that many people value it and want it to remain possible doesn't change this fact.
The first (i.e. showcased) segment of yesterday's NPR program All Things Considered was all about how to silence "misinformation." Joe Rogan, Spotify, podcasts in general, the Neil Young incident, "anti-vaxxers," etc. were among the topics that were discussed. The Powers That Be are very busy plotting how to completely shut down free speech. Scoff at the possibility that they'll succeed at your own peril.
Ever listened to a rap song? Why can those guys say it and I can’t? Because they’re black? I don’t accept that. If a word is taboo, it’s taboo for everyone. As Berenson points out the videos are 10 years or so old. It has nothing to do with words. It’s power. And no one has power over my words but me.
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
He should never have apologized. It's a word. Just a word. Blacks use the word in their videos, their discussions, they make money off the word. Jesse Peterson pointed out that if the "word" is so offensive, stop using it. The hip hop artist state they have taken their power back using the "word". If that were true, they wouldn't care who used the "word". Personally I dont believe anyone is offended by the word. Most have been taught to be offended. When I was growing up the adults in my life taught us to be stronger mentally. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. I think it's pretty sad that we have an entire generation that needs safe spaces, crying closets, teddy bears and crayons when they get offended. My God, their college students. But then again that explains the moral decline of our society. I lost respect when he apologized. The man did nothing wrong. His words were taken out of context. Another tool to shut people up, to stop free thinking people from having deep discussion. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. It's what they do. What is the number one word they use to do it. " racist" White people, stop apologizing. You are not racist. The people that created this "are"
If Alex thinks that writing this will help him when the mob comes for him he’s mistaken. This is a battle of authoritarians against the freedom of speech and more importantly the freedom of thought. No one wanting him deplatformed cares about whether or not he used the word or not, if they think the word is harmful why do they repeat it by splicing recordings of it together and posting it all over the internet? Rogan is a threat to the authoritarians who want to take us back into the feudal system. And Alex Berenson is deluding himself if he thinks he can tapdance his way out of being deplatformed too. They want to take downSpotify/Rogan, but they’re also destroy Substack/Berenson at the same time. I’m disappointed Alex, I thought you were smarter than this.
We all say stupid things at times. I don't want to live in a world where there's no forgiveness. I apply this to Rogan and I apply it to Whoopi. They apologized sincerely, let's move on.
Rogan should apologize wholeheartedly once and then not respond to the critics anymore because as Alex says, this isn't about his comments. It's about Rogan having on voices that don't always follow the approved narrative.
Rogan...No apologizes, zero, nada. Be only judged by your maker. Apologies to the wolves will only attract more.
He already apologized. Big mistake- huge. Now it is just a matter of time until he is fired
Saying you are sorry in these days is telling the mob "Oh you are correct about me. I deserve to be punished"
They smell blood in the water at that point because they sense the fear and weakness.
Horrible society we have as apologies are important and people used to react in a dignified manner "apology accepted" when someone showed genuine remorse.
Today? You are saying to the mob "Yes I am very weak here. Continue to attack right this spot"
Even if Spotify lets him go, his empire will follow him to a decentralized podcast platform where his reach will end up increasing. Joe’s situation may end up being the catalyst for dynamic change. 🤞🏻
I agree with you... his followers will stay with him and he may very well add some because people are sick if this bullshit cancel crap. By these standards Biden should be cancelled for also using the n-word in a senate hearing back in the '80's (1986 I think)...not to mention his "affiliations" with klan members. Same with black-face Trudeau in the former governor of Virginia.
I agree as well. If he was on Rumble, I’d start following too. I don’t do Spotify.
Anybody remember when Spotify was going to be some great thing for musicians? I'm a musician. I can tell you it's a great thing for less than 1% of them. Everybody else is just getting screwed imo. I canceled my Spotify subscription a long time ago but sadly not for the right reasons. 😂
That just made up my mind ,I have to sign up to Spotify
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I thought about it but you have pay for it. Don’t want to give them my money
You mean “Governor Klanrobes Blackface”?😂
Hahaha 😂😂 yes! Thank you... I totally drew a blank on his name!!
Let's hope. We are definitely putting a dent in their business now. If Rogan goes to an alternative source, dent will become a gaping hole.
And it should! It's now up to the majority of the population to tell these cancel culturers that they can go fuck themselves and that we're not going to let them continue to dictate how we live our lives and who we listen to. We need to get a bunch of as nasty ass people to go after these guys as they want to go after everybody else.
Wow. Someone who is actually speaking the truth and isn't just "HOPEFUL"
EXACTLY. He don't need Spotify. Spotify needs him. I'm living, paying proof of that fact.
I am so over these web 2 models. So over the censorship. There's a bunch of people I listen to right now that have all been deep platformed in one way or another. And this is spring growth in these decentralized platforms. Loving it. Whatever Bitcoin and decentralized exchanges are to money I would love to see it for content creators.
When is all you people's hope going to and when will you realize something must done but you sitting at home hoping? Hoping is basically compliance at this point.
I bet he'd love nothing more than to get out from under the boot! Obviously a 100M contract would be hard to turn down, i bet he regrets it now though. Well, maybe.. probably not when he looks at his bank account so much
It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them- P.G. Wodehouse
He thought his endorsement of Bernie, the extremist socialist/fascist would protect him. But when Bernie’s authoritarian buddies came for him, all their knives were out.
Maybe Rogan will go on Truth Social... nothing would surprise me.
I hear Rumble is making a pitch for Rogan to jump to their Platform. Competition Is Good!
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
Everyone younger than 30: "Who's Neil Young?" Everyone between 30 and 59: "Is Neil Young still alive?" Everyone older than 60: "What's a Spotify?"
I'll be happy if I never have to hear "A Horse With No Name" again.
Misinformation is the new word for "It's not a part of our narrative ".
That was America, not Neil Young.
I think that was his point, though pretty subtle it was.
Oh! 😁
😂😂
YEP! Keep on Rockin in a FREE world.
We the People.
https://youtu.be/JKfm4rqMd78
Add Chuckie's in Love to the no play list, though admittedly an outlier in Neil's canon. I think he wrote it about Darrel, that guy he married.
And don't let the Far-Left ever win.
60 invented Spotify. Maybe 80 never heard of Spotify.
I'm 66. I've no idea who Neil Young is. Judging by recent news, it seems he was a famous popular musician sometime in the past. I've zero interest in him. (I don't know anything about Spotify either.)
Truth!
That's great!
If the woke mob is so offended by what Joe Rogan said in the past... just wait until they discover Howard Stern.
Never has been about the word. It’s the vehicle that squashes dissent. There are so many “words”. Censorship at its finest.
Car violence is out of control. We need to establish task forces and determine how we can keep cars off the streets.
Bigger pot holes.
You are totally correct about this, and thank you for pointing it out. Anyone disagreeing with the Medico-Fascists and Thought Police must be crushed and his or her platform taken away -- a technique certainly familiar to Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler. The specter of George Orwell's "1984" draws closer and closer.
BINGO. we have a winner. this is not about the n word or racism. it's about crossing authoritarianism power. woof. woof.
Yes.
Spot on Monty. ALL of us here has done something we have regretted. We’re ALL sinners but we’ve ALL been forgiven via the blood of Jesus shed on the cross. https://www.gotquestions.org/sin-of-unbelief.html And BTW the ‘J’ word (not in vain) can be pretty divisive as well but in a GOOD way. Apologize for hurt and confess, accept God’s forgiveness claim Romans 8:28 28 “And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. “ and move on and don’t dwell on the past but look to the future.
Yes, it's a disappointing reaction by Rogan. But, I can't say I am totally surprised. Despite some heroic interviews and comments, I believe Joe's own views are a little too fluid, being a sort of open but still pragmatic liberalism. The issue is that this is not a foundation to stand upon when truly challenged. His principles are ill-defined and protean. Frankly, this is no great sin, because most Americans suffer from this issue. But, it matters when you are a public figure subject to attack. He stands upon sand.
He is a great conversationist, but adopting trendy Bernie leftism without critical feedback, or straw-manning Christians while showing great deference to other faiths, demonstrates he still wants to be popular more than right, and that he doesn't critically assess and pick through the ideas he hears in interviews. It seems each idea goes onto a clothes heap that he never sorts, and he looks at it from time to time when he needs a view of something.
If he has not figured this out by now ….It explains how he could be a Bernie Sanders supporter
Years ago at work, a Jewish coworker was telling Jewish jokes. That was a signal to others telling a joke they might know was OK. When they did, he was furious, deeply offended. I said to him, if you tell these jokes you are saying they are OK. The same rules have to apply to everyone. I recall, also years ago, blacks I knew used the "N" word, listened to songs with the "N" word. Now everyone is upset? This is about the wolves. No one can change the past. But people do change, and what is important is who they are now.
You ever say something mean about your family and then your friend jumps in and says something mean about them? And suddenly you feel defensive? It's all about assumptions of where it's coming from. I obviously mean my family no harm. It's not as obvious with my friend. The assumption everyone makes is that a Jewish person is not actually against Jews. But see it's more questionable when you're not from that group. It makes people feel uncertain and maybe uncomfortable. That's my observation on that one.
Well! Millions of people are dead because of a virus that was treatable with proven safe therapeutics that were prohibited; and millions more have been injured and thousands dead due to untested experimental drug shots pushed by the same cabal who condemned the therapeutics. Many of our seniors died suffering and alone without their families at their side because of the insane politicized health policies. Millions of children have been psychologically damaged and had two plus years stolen from their lives. And now the cancel culture hurtful language bug a boo is the critical topic de jour? Distraction! Get over it! The nasty language did not kill anyone!
Yes-we live in time when the giants of the past & present, people who made or make immeasurable contributions to civilization, are cleansed from history because far lesser, far more imperfect and frankly useless people discover that all human beings are flawed. They capitalize on this truth while simply ignoring this reality when it comes to the truly evil who recite the accepted mantra in hopes of getting or staying in the club. Like all decaying totalitarian societies, truth today is determined by those in power. The Orwellians in power need to make Joe see 1 plus 1 and believe in his heart of heart that these numbers add up to 3. Only then will they put him out of his misery. We live in dark times and are being overrun by ignorance and cowardice. The best solution for Joe would be to tell everybody whining to fuck off - that he will make peace with his past failures on his own time in his own way with those he has offended directly, not by answering to a media culture comprised predominantly of the worst humanity has to offer. But I bet he won’t.
Rogan is the only interviewer/journalist that is engaging in bridging conversations in our divided society. We are completely divided between the liberty loving and pragmatic, and people driven by feelings, fantasy and psychological defense mechanisms. With greed and power lust thrown in for good measure. A Tower of Babel. The Totalitarians need him gone. I'd advise he tell them to F O.
This is why I read comments. Thank you
Distraction and power. Good reminder of the real issues.
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
It's really such hypocrisy. You can hear the most hair raising blasphemies involving Jesus' name, round the clock everywhere. But say negro with two "gs" and you're tarred and feathered.
Hey, Alex and Joe were chortling over abortion a few months ago, a pair of callous pro-aborts laughing at prolifers. I've worked in the prolife movement for many years, having seen the damage and misery inflicted by abortion. Their flippant stupidity made me lose respect for both of them. But the very last thing I'd want is to cancel them.
God bless you for your good work.
Thank you Dennis. Seeing the two of them chuckling about abortion felt like watching people laugh about child sacrifice. No one deserves to be censored. The ignorant blather will eventually lead to someone, somehow, reaching them with a thought they may never have had.
I agree. God bless you for your efforts in protecting the most vulnerable and innocent. Among all the evil in the world, I believe nothing compares to the evil of the mass murder of unborn children. I don’t know how long it will take for the forces of good to overcome this evil, but years from now when people look back at this period we live in the people of the day will not believe humans could possibly willingly submit to the infanticide of the slaughter of millions of unborn innocents. Without a doubt the biggest travesty in human history.
i might not agree with what you say but i'll defend with my life your ability to say it. whoever said that was onto something.
YES YES YES AND YES. That's also what ALEX SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN.
Can I play that over the emergency broadcast system 24 hours a day?! Cause that’s the only way to drown out the messaging from lame stream media!
i like to call them dependent media
thank you! thank you for bringing this conversation back to perspective.
the bottom line is harm.
how many people were killed by joe rogan using the N-word 10 years ago? 0. how many people are being killed and injured by this pharma-great reset-new world authoritarianism...whatever you want to call it thing. millions. is joe rogan saving lives by getting the message out on early treatment? have Malone and McCullough saved lives by speaking on free platforms?
recognize for what this is.
Don't forget the damage academically. How much farther down the testing pole will our country be compared to others when it comes to the lack of education all of our students have experienced? Young children don't like the struggle to learn when their base instruction has been massacred due to "distance learning". Watching a child struggle to learn when he/she has been treated horribly in very early elementary classes is maddening, to say the least. It is amazing how our "elected" (loosely defined) politicians have not thought about that part of this nightmare they have willing gone along with and/or help develop & push the growth of it.
Yes. Well said! As well, the whole government controlled education system needs “fundamental transformation”; kids were already getting a poor education.
Agree 100%!
you're wrong, they have thought about it, it's call equity. Torpedoing actual learning, is what will ramp up equity.
Terrific summary of where things stand.
This is perfect. I think I'm going to memorize it and say it on repeat.
Very well said !
Since when did "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me" become false? When the left started weaponizing speech against their enemies. Or at least *some* of their enemies. For example, the person occupying the Oval Office right now, Mr. Biden, is on video--easily findable if you care to look--saying the "n-word" [I'd spell it out if I wasn't certain the post would be rejected] a couple of times IN A SENATE HEARING. So William Seward was wrong. (He was also a vicious anti-free-speech proto-Gestapo chief so the modern left would love him.)
It's just a word. It's not Lord Voldemort. Calling someone the n-word is disgusting and unacceptable, but just referring to it in conversation is just talking. Grow up. No one is "offended" if someone says, like Rogan, "I would never call someone a n1&&3r." It's all performance theater.
I tell the kids if they hear someone say “words are violence” that that person is unable to have a rational argument and are just trying to shut you up. However with Rogan’s Bernie endorsement I don’t trust his judgment. Freedom and socialism are incompatible.
People who say “words are violence” are lucky enough to have never seen or experienced true violence.
I've experienced violence in many different forms. They're all harmful and traumatizing.
It’s always been false.
The sting of a fist disappears quickly.
The sting of words can last a lifetime.
The sting of words only lasts as long as the hearer ("victim"?) allows them to, either by choice or a weak psyche. While I concede this is a risk, does it justify censoring speech, just because some snowflake might take offense? Letting unhappy words sour one's day is captured in the streetwise saying "Letting someone live in your head rent-free."
A word is just that: a word. A series of letters on a page, a sequence of sounds. In itself, it has no meaning at all, save for what we attribute to it. A stand-in for a person, place, thing or general concept. It's true that throughout history, words have been ascribed great, sometimes god-like powers. Or the opposite: they may signify nothing, as when written laws or rules are ignored. Most of the time, of course, they steer a middle course: they are a useful way to communicate ideas. Indeed, without them, probably anything resembling civilization would be impossible.
But fundamentally, a word has only the power we give it, no more and no less.
Spot on! When emotions run a person instead of reason, you get hurt feelings strung out in time in a never ending pity party. This is narcissist behavior.
It's true that words evoke emotion, but reason manages emotion. When people are out of balance, emotion can run their lives.
Some of the best counseling I ever had in confession was this: your words affect everyone for better or worse.
That said, silencing people is no way to go in a free society. We have to be prepared to take the consequences of our words, along with the people we affect by them.
We teach people that they CAN'T say certain things.
We should teach people that they CAN say anything, but there are things they SHOULDN'T say.
Big difference.
i think determining racist is about harm. you use the n-word to encourage racist violence or policy that's racism. was someone harmed by this podcast? beaten? turned down for home loan? business closed down? experimented on with a new pharma product?
no. people didn't like it. well, there are plenty of things i don't like too. i don't like 0 liability on a product that's mandated. i don't like commercials insulting me. i don't like 90% of the infotainment or social media. should we ban them?
I think the saying is "Sticks and stones can beak my bones, but words can never hurt me."
Words can hurt people. I've been subjected to death threats. They are definitely hurtful.
My mother (long dead now) was at times emotionally unstable and hysterical, and would scream at me. Sometimes she would insult or curse me. Her words were extremely hurtful, so much so that I wanted to run away from home. I think I'd have been better off in the long run if I had.
While words can, indeed, be deeply hurtful, (maybe even more than sticks and stones), no one forces anyone to listen to a podcast and no one should be given the means to cancel a voice simply because someone _else_ might be listening. These damned Bolsheviks are threatened by people thinking for themselves.
Dear Alex, who did you think needed to hear the first half of your piece?
Who were you writing at?
Joe? No. Why would he want to hear that…
Us? No, we appreciate you as you are and enjoy your work.
Then who?
It pains us to have to wade through yet another diatribe of “I don’t agree with that word and it’s a terrible word!!!”
Like we really feel better for you revealing the obvious.
Please leave the mea culpa where it belongs. Unsaid.
If you really feel that people who understand your writing need to hear you distance yourself just because you had been on Joe Rogan show, then you don’t understand your audience, your true audience.
I agree David. I too was left slack jaw after reading this piece about Rogan as you. It appears Alex is doing a woke distancing, indeed. A man who gave him a platform to speak and reach millions 3 times, for hours as well. I wonder if Rogan had asked him to to hang out like he had hoped, maybe then Alex would have put his use of writing in a better more forgiving light?
So many, comedians of non color have used this would, & many times. The 1st who comes to mind is, Howard Stern. Do I think his using of the word that shall not be mentioned, revealed a dark clandestine side to Howard, NO! He has said & done a plethora of extremely stupid things over the course of his multi decade career that I didn't agree with & guess what, I would turn his show off when I didn't want to listen.
Alex, you're disappointing piece did a great disservice to yourself. Maybe it reveled something you hold in your heart? Being upset that the guy who did so much for you & your platform by not asking you to hang out with him after sitting down & talking with you for 3+ hours for a 3rd time? I am deeply saddened to have come to see this side of you.... I guess you've been perfect all your life, even when joking around doing/saying stupid shit?
He wrote it for me. I had no idea about any of the examples Alex mentioned or the fact that there is a woke whack attack going on against Rogan that goes beyond a few washed up rock stars looking for even more money.
Unless there happens to be a rerun of Talk Radio that happens to be on a channel I'm flipping by I'm not going to be seeing much of Joe or understand outside of Covid what anyone might have on him, not that I care about an N-word reference or Planet of the Apes reference.
While I don't care about those events, it's good to have context on how standing against one topic will open you up for being attacked on others and what they are. It's the reason a lot of people don't go into politics.
My opinion of Joe has not changed, yet, but if he caves to the cancelers and for money it will. Because he doesn't need to.
He has grown stronger thru this. Joe stepped up and takes responsibility for all his actions-words which I respect. Sure he does not ever have to apologize, but the way he does is the way it should be. His right to protect his reputation is on HIM and should never be about what other think of him. His remarks as of late for taking responsibility for what he has said is admirable. Not many have the clout Joe has and his followers love what he stands for!
You never apologize to a mob. It only emboldens them. They will never stop until he is gone. They smell blood.
Big diff in owning what you do and say and caving as the insightful Oliver mentioned here. No one should HAVE to apologize I agree
Agreed, Owning and caving are two different things. Plus my opinion of him accounts for nothing. It was good to have a little preemptive context though in case I see some new attack stories.
love the nuanced take on "owning and caving" There is a difference for sure
I think I found out everything I needed to know about Alex when he took cheap shots at Malone. I appreciate his Covid coverage, but I'm guessing he wouldn't be the first friend to call if you were in trouble.
After going through Alex's piece twice, plus reading all of the less-than-pleased commentary from his subscribers, I was tending towards concluding that sometimes the best choice is indeed to say nothing at all. You're right, most of this is obvious (except, IMO, the observation that multiple points here can be true at once, and the terrible advice that Joe should offer ADDITIONAL apologies, ie, grovel). And since I of course don't know Alex's heart, I wondered how much of a pure defensive move this might be on Berenson's part. But now I think maybe, just maybe, Alex wrote this entire piece, not just one portion of it, to an audience of one person only: Joe Rogan. Why not just call him up? He doesn't know him that well. Plus, a public challenge is always good. Hey, Joe, what will you be known for when it's all said and done? Hanging tough and calling out the liars on one of the biggest issues of our time? Or retreating into court jesterdom?
Yeah why not call Rogan. I mean the first bit of this reads as "hey this guy that said that bad thing... We are not really good friends" so like I'm not guilty by association. And what he did is definitely really bad there's no way a person could use that word without it being bad. Really? Aren't there a bunch of Mark Twain classics where child characters drop the n word? So if I'm reading Huck Finn and say the n word And someone makes a clip montage of that... I guess I'm racist? I guess there was no excuse? So I'm bad?
Well I'm glad I am not creating media because I would have been canceled so many times by now. 😂
Extremely well said! But we must remember, at his heart, Alex is what he is. I'm thankful for his book and his investigative journalism towards the vaccines, but at the end of the day he's going to be what he's going to be.
And what's that? Serious question. I only know him because if covid. And in that regard he seems stuck on stupid. Constantly beating the dead horse of efficacy, while ignoring completely the nefarious acts behind it as well as connections to the "not so great reset". Who is he really? I'd appreciate some insight. Thanks.
Alex remains a propagandist. He's ex-New York Times - that's as good as saying CIA.
They obviously know the crimes are going to become obvious. Alex's role is to drive the narrative that it all happened organically due to incompetence, and it's definitely not the orchestrated world plan that it actually is. Compare Pandemia ("Oh, what clowns are the authorities!") to RFK's The Real Anthony Fauci (thoroughly documented, decades-long plans).
Alex is very much team establishment, here to capture the opposition until it's time to stab it in the back. He's already stabbed Malone, now he's stabbing Rogan. And of course he's going to downplay election theft at every step.
This is interesting... I follow Alex not because of what he writes, because I find most of his posts weak and mostly not new news. I am here because of the comments, they are generally fantastic! And I agree too about RFK Jr's book - everyone should read it, and it seems obvious that Alex didn't. I bought both, but after reading the incredible disclosures by RFK, I couldn't get through Pandemia - weak pablum by comparison. Just my 2c, YMMV....
And one more thing, notice how Alex doesn't respond to comments, like many other Substack writers do? That says something, I think....
What I like about Robert Kennedy is that he calls out what's obvious. These pharmaceutical companies aren't ignorant. Neither is Fauci. You don't make billions of dollars in the business world by being incompetent. A lot of people just give them a pass. They say "It makes no sense" "they don't know what they're doing". BS. That might be true at the lower levels. Maybe in the middle. But not at the top.
Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I hope Alex truly evolved from woke journalism.
If that's his plan, he sucks at it. My mind was made up before I ever heard of Malone, or Kennedy, or Alex. I was just looking for the data on this particular piece of the plan, which he has provided generously.
I tend to agree after the last 24 hours
I think the real issue here isn't about racism or the n word. The real issue issue is how a free society is drifting towards authoritarianism with censorship.
It's a very old story where someone tries to tell the truth in a threatens power. And then that power retaliates by taking whatever the Achilles heel is of the moment (racism, trans rights, sexual misconduct) and tries to bring them down. Not saying that those things can't be real issues. But I think people need some perspective. We are talking about drifting towards authoritarianism where your freedoms will go away vs I was offended by a podcaster.
A manufactured virus that shuts down the world's economies. A vaccine that is unsafe and ineffective... Killing how many? Impacting how many people's long-term health? How many people died from Joe dropping the n word ?
I hope Joe realizes what's going on here. And hopefully in old school Joe Rogan fashion calls it out. You know when he took the Spotify deal I started to see him soften around the edges. $100 million is going to do that to people.
No, the N word is a power play. If it had the impact you suggest, blacks wouldn’t use it in virtually every sentence. I wish there was such outrage when Christ’s name is used in vain but there’s no political advantage in that.
Agree 100%
And why is it that the dissident, the truth seeker courageous enough to speak truth to the mob and to tyrants has to kneel and ask forgiveness? The corporate-establishment media do NOTHING but spin lies: Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, Weapons of Mass Destruction, no one saw the financial collapse coming, Trump is a Russian agent, Russian bounties in Afghanistan, Hunter Biden’s laptop is a Russian opp, most of the January 6th narrative, get vaxxed and you won’t get Covid, the vaccines are safe & effective, Ivermectin is deadly, Joe Rogan eats horse dewormer, etc., etc., etc.
Joe Rogan did something wrong. Fine. The tyrants trying to crucify him do everything wrong and are wicked.
You underestimate Rogan. He is a very nice guy who wants to do the right thing, but he has spent his entire life as a student of hand to hand combat and conflict. The last couple of weeks he has taken some blows and given up the round, but you forget the man is a fighter; and keeps company with other fighters and warriors. And these are the people he trusts for advice, definitely not journalists or media personalities.
In Jordan Peterson's words - "is Joe Rogan on Spotify, or is Spotify on Joe Rogan".
In a years time he will have 20mn listeners per episode, from 10 or 11 or whatever, and during election season politicians will be falling over themselves to get on his podcast.
Perhaps, but after his Bernie endorsement I don’t trust his judgment. Freedom and socialism are incompatible.
So what if he supported Bernie? I supported Hillary for a while before changing my mind. I thought Trump was a lunatic before changing my mind. I thought vaccines worked before changing my mind. I thought masks worked before changing my mind. I thought DeSantis was meh before changing my mind and thinking he is literally the leader of the free world. It happens, don't be so tribal.
It isn't tribalism, it is factualism. Look at what the national socialists did to Germany. The socialists, communists and fascists did to China, Russia, Venezuela, NK, and Cuba etc. For a 50-something year old to support socialism - any form of authoritarianism whether fascism or communism etc - shows suspect judgment or a lack of knowledge or a willingness to subjugate entire populations for some financial gain. It shows someone, perhaps, wanting to appease someone and buy forbearance.
I wasn't a student of history until Covid. I agree with everything you're saying, but its a bit unfair to expect everyone to know it. You can't take Rogan that seriously. Take his GUESTS seriously, but he is just a comic/fighter/commentator/podcaster who likes aliens and DMT and somehow found himself behind the most popular podcast in the world
There were tons of historical events that I didn't even know happened, let alone the circumstances and political situation around them. I consider myself far enriched as a result (now) and understand far more acutely WHY individual freedoms are so important. Even comic JP Spears did a video about-face about his stance on guns.
My views on so many things changed in 2020/21. I feel like I aged 20 years. I am sure I'm not alone.
Definitely not alone!
Bash,
You are just growing up. This is not a self help site, that would be best suited for you. We don’t care about your life story. You sound like a narcissist. Please go get another 20 years wiser before you come back. Learn to listen instead of bragging about your ignorance. Best of luck.
You are not alone.
👏👏👏
Bash,
Your claims about yourself just mean you are extremely dull and slow witted.
Hopefully you have learned from your past stupidity and misjudgments although it doesn’t look like it since you are bragging about it and not smart enough to keep your mouth closed.
My mom had a saying about loud mouths and empty minds…
Agreed that he is wrong about Bernie, but does that make him wrong about everything? I don’t think so. His greatest asset in my opinion is his ability to talk with, and listen to people of all political persuasions, backgrounds, occupations. Some I admire, others not so much. Makes for intellectually stimulating and entertaining podcasts, though.
I didn't say he is wrong about everything, but if you want to attack a strawman, that is okay. What it does for me is to make me question his judgment and not accept that he is as he is being portrayed - some type of "every man". Perhaps he repented after that Bernie nonsense given who he said he voted for in the general election, but a libertarian and socialist authoritarian are about as polar opposite as you can get. Given he could swing from 180 degrees in the space of about half a year makes me wonder what his true beliefs really are.
I'm just going to remind everyone that Rogan talked about ivermectin too. And monoclonal antibodies. He took both of them when he had his brief bout with COVID. In terms of MSM media beatings, it was his talking about the Horse Dewormer that got him tossed into the penalty box. I got the sense he loved it.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/01/1033485152/joe-rogan-covid-ivermectin
So why is "the gang in charge" panicking now and pulling out all the stops? I'm guessing they are looking ahead to the most-likely-disastrous 2022 midterms, and they're terrified he'll say something they don't like and can't control.
I get the sense they want to "tell the truth slowly" about the shots. In order to save face. And Rogan might not let them do this. And it could definitely affect the outcome in November. So Rogan has to go.
More than MSM. https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490220423270699009
that was fantastic. Thank you. It is so obvious that this is just a hit piece on Rogan because people with the virus are not supposed to survive without an expensive trip to the hospital, remdesivir, and a ventilator. Rogan gave people inexpensive and less expensive alternatives and is exposing their evil, to a different audience than Alex.
Nice work. Looks like I need to replace the word "MSM" with "the gang in charge." Definitely more than MSM involved. Thanks!
I like “the enemy”
Thank you for sharing this! Very interesting!
So Alex is cool with condemning Rogan for using a word.
Anyone else see the irony there? Alex got cancelled for using words that were considered off limits, too.
As long as people allow others to dictate what words they can use -- and that includes ALL words -- then that weakness will be used to silence them.
Stand up for free speech. Period. Even slurs. Because there's nowhere to draw the line. If any speech is off limits, then all speech is at risk. So speak your damn mind. If someone accuses you of being a racist because of it, the correct answer is not "No I'm not." It's not "I'm sorry.
It's "Go fuck yourself."
He can't be cancelled. If Spotify cans him he can go to Rumble or go federated. People will follow and it will be a big step forward for those platforms and push one more big woke platform slowly closer toward irrelevancy.
The only bad outcome would be if Spotify neutered him somehow. Surely he had his contract designed so they couldn't do that.
Good comment. IMO, whatever that contract says will determine how this goes in the next few weeks.
Remind me how many episodes Spotify has already pulled.
Alex is the living example of the saying You can take a man out of the New York Times, but you can't take the New York Times out of a man.
All races are “racist.” Blacks are particularly racist. They use any word they want. Rap songs are full of every imaginable form of bigotry and racism. They are racist against their own race. I’m tired this type of cucking by Alex. You speak no truth about race. No truth about the double standard. No truth about the N word. There has never been a word outlawed like this. Stop apologizing. Start fighting back with truth.
A surprising simpleton take by Alex. No depth. No condemnation of hypocrisy or condemnation of a standard that is BS.
Maybe Malone us right- controlled opposition?
If you think Alex is "controlled opposition," you don't know what controlled opposition is. And if here were controlled opposition, the regime would not be trying to silence him. They love and adore the controlled opposition.
I don't know if I agree with all of Alex's take... but he is 100% right on one thing. He would not be under the slightest iota of pressure if he conformed with the covid narrative. This is the real reason they want to take him down.
Joe should not apologize. I’m tired of the word games. If your skin is one color you can use a word, if it’s another you can’t. Done, don’t care. One word doesn’t define one’s character. Joe should be Joe without worry or apology.
The video is also a set up, planned attack on Joe to try to take him down, to earn power points by taking such a huge-followers-person down. You're right.
Montezuma said it nicely. Don’t do the apology your. You’ve said you’re sorry once. Once too many for my liking but now you’d better stand firm. Or you’re history. People that like you like you for a reason. Don’t give them a reason to stop.
They're not going after Joe Rogan, they're going after his guests. And that includes you, Alex. They're shutting you down through him.
Very insightful and spot on!!
I completely disagree with your take on Rogan. In the first place, we all know, or at least should suspect, that this has nothing to do with some insensitive racial slurs, and everything to do with a popular host interviewing Covid-19 heretics like Malone etc.
With the assumption that his two unpardonable utterances were from comedy skits, precisely what has he done wrong? If they were in the context of a comedy skit or other performance, traditionally artistic license is granted. If he made the remarks at a KKK or Neo-Nazi rally, a dinner party or even at a bar with friends, perhaps they are less defensible. These "incidents" I'm assuming happened many years ago, now recently dug up (how conveniently) by Woke agents looking for dirt. Is this the best they can do? This is as pathetic as the movement last year to get a rock removed form the campus of the University of Washington because a century earlier someone in an obscure publication had used a racial epithet to describe it.
Rogan is even more at fault for playing the penitent victim, and going along with the Left's morality play. If he had any balls he should have said something like: "I don't give a damn about your woke sensitivities. I said what I said. And I will continue to as long as the First Amendment exists." If Rogan had any balls, he should have lashed out ferociously not only against his would-be censors, but also Spotify, demanding they keep all his episodes on line, or else he could take his business elsewhere. His actions already prove that he, perhaps was made "an offer he couldn't refuse," but in any case, he and Spotify have caved.
Even if people think I'm off base here, defending Rogan, consider this: this is just the latest incident where the Left attack their current target using perhaps-real, but utterly trivial, "sins" dredged up from their victim's past. There is simply no making peace with such enemies. The situation is little different than a hapless victim being persecuted in the Middle Ages by the Church, claiming she was a witch. How would one ever disprove the allegation?
Alex,
He should never have apologized. That’s because it always looks disingenuous to apologize after being called out. There is no way to convince anyone of his “sincerity” - except that he knows to make a calculated decision to apologize.
Joe Rogan is a manlet true but Alex Berenson is surprisingly tall!
As for the 14th letter of the alphabet word that can't be said I think it is crazy. Saying it with a hard R makes you worse than a pedophile but saying it with an "a" ending is cool? Oh as long as you aren't white. If you are white then stay away.
Is there a word that other groups use against Europeans? Yes, plenty. Nobody cares though certainly not white people.
So we should ask ourselves why white people are expected to behave and react like adults but black people are expected to behave like children, and so we must protect them from the hurty words that hurt feelings. This is a pretty racist expectation in itself if you think about it.
Actually nobody is more offended by the 14th letter of the alphabet word than Liberal white women.
Walking past a homeless starving black man and not feeding him BECAUSE you don't like the colour of his skin? I think those actions are disgusting. Saying a word? Yeah, not in the same ballpark. Actions speak louder than words IMO
Mayor Eric Adams called white cops "crackers" when campaigning in 2019. MSM treats him with kid gloves, he apologizes, and everyone moves on. Nobody called for his resignation. Definitely a double standard.
Does everyone have amnesia? Let me narrow that down: does everyone over the age of 50 have amnesia? N-word was a common "street" word. It would be next to impossible to have grown up back then without having heard that word used frequently and with abandon. In the street. I am a child of the '50s. My mother didn't permit its use in the home as it was "vulgar". She didn't use the term "racist". Just "vulgar". We were taught to say "colored people" instead. My point is that you will be hard-pressed to find anybody of a certain age who has not used that word. It was part of the "vulgar" vocabulary. Even Joe Biden used it in the Senate (in a certain context). Does anybody remember that? The upshot is that we have evolved light years since the time when there was a "nickname" for every ethnicity imaginable. Over time, "nickname" became "slur". So can we please get over the holier-than-thou crap? "Slurs" are out. And that's a good thing. PS I count "cracker" among them. You?
Disagree. Its a word. That is all. Its bandied about carelessly by one racial segment, and totally verboten by another. It's a double standard, and giving this word some sort of holy significance is stupid. Rogan should not have apologized. He should simply have pledged not to say the word in the future (if that is his intent) and left it at that. Let guilty whites clutch their pearls, who cares?
Sadly, this is your absolute worst take. People are human and I’m sorry but we need to judge in the context of time. You’re one example of the senator is not indicative of the norm at the time. Go back to Howard stern in black face. Look at what other people were saying.
Furthermore, he didn’t talk to you after?!? He had you on which outside of Tucker is a ton more than everyone else.
Super disappointed by this backstabbing, petty post. You’re better than this. This is a war and your teammates are human. Pointing that out just gives points to the enemy. And like you said, this isn’t about an offensive racial word. It’s about that he had YOU on. Way to show appreciation😞
He made a mistake in apologizing.
You NEVER apologize to the mob. It is blood in the water. They know they have you and will never stop.
Howard Stern has said much worse and has appeared in blackface makeup. They don’t try to cancel him because he tells the lies they expect him to tell and won’t question his masters.
Howard’s smart enough to know this.
Why has he been so vocal lately?
CYA
If I do your dirty work you'll forgive me.
https://patriotone.substack.com/p/this-is-who-is-behind-the-joe-rogan
Great glad you posted that, too. It's still on twitter https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490220423270699009 for now.
Alex just used his substack to distance himself from Rogan and damage control. It begins and ends the same: "I don't know Joe Rogan that well." All the stuff in the middle is word salad.
yup, you can take the man out of the NYTimes but cannot take the NYTimes out of the man..
Why he has to distance himself from a show on which he was interviewed is another expression of how the lady wing media has trained everyone.
Dear Joe Rogan: Please use your platform to keep asking hard questions.
Oh my, Alex, you still don’t get it. Perhaps you need to see more. Ok. The universe will give you more horrors.
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
How you fucking cowardly pussy ass bitch - when are you going to man up and address your ambush of Malone???
So sick and tired of this N word hysteria crap. Until EVERYONE is outlawed from saying it, no matter what your skin color ,then spare me the moral outrage. It's either a bad word or it isn't. And apparently for a certain group it's still ok to use. I'm so over all of this crap. Its like the word racist. It means nothing anymore.
Agree completely. Is Rogan racist? No. End of story.
Of course it means nothing to you.
He's said a lot of crazy shit. I listen to the podcast not necessarily for what Rogan says, but for the guests he has on. My wife listens to him as does my teenage daughter. I would argue if he's winning over this demographic, then he'll take the hard road.
The difference between you and Joe? Simple. He doesn’t persecute you for your mistakes. Seriously Alex, who is pulling your strings, and who have they told you to slime next?
As a liberal, Joe Rogan didn’t pay attention to patterns, because if he did, he would have noticed that liberals, progressives, far left, Democrats NEVER, EVER, APOLOGIZE. And as a result, they NEVER, EVER EXPERIENCE ANY CONSEQUENCES. Now he is apologizing every day and Spotify is removing episode after episode. He was bigger than Spotify. He had the power- and he gave it back to them. Now they beat him over the head with it. He will be moving to another platform I predict.
I haven't listened to any of those clips. When everyone is called a racist, no one is a racist. Do we want to go back and read the lines Richard Pryor wrote for Blazing Saddles? Racism is a tired argument. The boy called "wolf" too many times.
I’m growing quite weary of these soapbox posts. I subscribe for investigative Covid reporting, not for your moral posturing. Besides, Carlin made a career out of it.
This may be the worst column you’ve written. Maybe worse than the Malone cheap shots. If you wanted to play the game, shit on someone who helped you, pile on, distance yourself and virtue signal, you succeeded. Five Stars!
BB, agreed. Also the article Alex commented on how fair and square elections are…does he not watch the court proceedings? does he not understand mathematical voting impossibilities? Just understands Covid math? That is very strange. Inconsistent.
Alex reminds us that he is a man of the left at the end of the day—-
This was self-serving; written to distance himself from Rogan.
100%
This is kind of like that burst you fired at Dr. Malone.
Joe had Sanjay Gupta on then followed that with McCullough and Malone for balance - leave Joe Rogan alone.
Are ya gonna sell your Tesla or not buy one because Elon Musk tweeted “Canadian Truckers Rule” and “CB Radios are free from government/media control” and “freedom is being being stripped away one piece at a time until it is gone”
Why in the world would Joe bow down to hypocrites? He will never be forgiven. so why apologize. He’s not racist and everyone knows it. He’s just being attacked bc he shared the truth re the vax.
https://rumble.com/vu5ik6-the-young-turks-sure-have-a-way-with-words.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Mark+Dice&ep=2
I honestly don't think that Rogan is as under threat as you think he is. People are desperate for the conversation he provides.
Free speech is under severe threat in this country. The fact that many people value it and want it to remain possible doesn't change this fact.
The first (i.e. showcased) segment of yesterday's NPR program All Things Considered was all about how to silence "misinformation." Joe Rogan, Spotify, podcasts in general, the Neil Young incident, "anti-vaxxers," etc. were among the topics that were discussed. The Powers That Be are very busy plotting how to completely shut down free speech. Scoff at the possibility that they'll succeed at your own peril.
Forget that Joe Rogan stuff! I wanna know how Ghislaine Maxwell got convicted of sex trafficking without any of her customers being brought to light.
Ever listened to a rap song? Why can those guys say it and I can’t? Because they’re black? I don’t accept that. If a word is taboo, it’s taboo for everyone. As Berenson points out the videos are 10 years or so old. It has nothing to do with words. It’s power. And no one has power over my words but me.
So sorry to find out that Alex supports Political Correctness.
The attacks on Rogan have nothing to nothing to do with the "word". It's about castrating a public person who doesn't follow the Covid Vax Pharma Industrial complex tyranny. The deep State scans the histories of all Public personalities and if needed, "dirt" is brought forward to squash the decent. It's as simple as that...It's not about the "word", never has been.
Cernovich has been posting on Twitter lots of this.
Dr. Malone was right. You're an asshole.
He should never have apologized. It's a word. Just a word. Blacks use the word in their videos, their discussions, they make money off the word. Jesse Peterson pointed out that if the "word" is so offensive, stop using it. The hip hop artist state they have taken their power back using the "word". If that were true, they wouldn't care who used the "word". Personally I dont believe anyone is offended by the word. Most have been taught to be offended. When I was growing up the adults in my life taught us to be stronger mentally. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. I think it's pretty sad that we have an entire generation that needs safe spaces, crying closets, teddy bears and crayons when they get offended. My God, their college students. But then again that explains the moral decline of our society. I lost respect when he apologized. The man did nothing wrong. His words were taken out of context. Another tool to shut people up, to stop free thinking people from having deep discussion. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. It's what they do. What is the number one word they use to do it. " racist" White people, stop apologizing. You are not racist. The people that created this "are"
Alex, be sure and check out this thread. Wondering what the 3rd strike will be. This is an organized attack. https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490220423270699009
If Alex thinks that writing this will help him when the mob comes for him he’s mistaken. This is a battle of authoritarians against the freedom of speech and more importantly the freedom of thought. No one wanting him deplatformed cares about whether or not he used the word or not, if they think the word is harmful why do they repeat it by splicing recordings of it together and posting it all over the internet? Rogan is a threat to the authoritarians who want to take us back into the feudal system. And Alex Berenson is deluding himself if he thinks he can tapdance his way out of being deplatformed too. They want to take downSpotify/Rogan, but they’re also destroy Substack/Berenson at the same time. I’m disappointed Alex, I thought you were smarter than this.
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Alex is smart enough to know.
But, it’s incredibly difficult for
people who don’t think the way Communists do, to accept that this is a war & apologies will
get you killed.
We all say stupid things at times. I don't want to live in a world where there's no forgiveness. I apply this to Rogan and I apply it to Whoopi. They apologized sincerely, let's move on.
Rogan should apologize wholeheartedly once and then not respond to the critics anymore because as Alex says, this isn't about his comments. It's about Rogan having on voices that don't always follow the approved narrative.