I’ve lived close to a Temple or a Synagogue 3 of my 4 decades on Earth. As I write this there is a Temple less than half a mile from my house, and a poorly secured really sketchy child “immigrant holding facility” for “minors age 14-17” across the street from the Temple (once the American Hebrew Academy). The Synagogue I grew up near is about 2 miles away. I’m Christian, not Jewish, but have known this conflict my whole life through friends, but looking in from the outside.
I have only 3 thoughts
1 - I hope Israel destroys Hamas and Gaza is obliterated. I am heartbroken for the innocents in Gaza, but Hamas did this to them, not Israel. The people of Gaza elected terrorists. Israel didn’t ask for this. Hamas did. It’s a terrible result, but one Hamas insisted on.
2 - I have zero conservative Jewish friends or acquaintances. They are ALL very far left. They are part of the crowd who for 7 years has accused folks like me, parents, conservatives, MAGA, and Christians of associating with “Nazis” or being one. I would never say it out loud now - there is too much pain. But I hope they notice it was Biden that lifted sanction on Iran and their fellow leftists taking to the streets of NYC, SF, Atlanta, DC, and Florida to “stand in solidarity” with the vile terrorist thugs whose goal it is to murder all Jews. I hope they stop voting for these morons.
3 - We can and should pray for peace..... so long as we acknowledge the Nazis didn’t end the Holocaust. It ended when American and Soviet soldiers ended the Nazi regime. Hamas will not lay down arms or stop murdering Jews. This will only stop when Hamas is exterminated.
I’m Jewish and not a leftist. I occupy a lonely political island. The only explanation I have is that secular Jews fail to acknowledge what is right under their noses. Leftism is the strongest religion of all.
Can you come visit NC? Maybe attend a couple services? I like Dave Rubin, Rebel News, Ben Shapiro - long list. My neighbors think those folks, like all conservatives, are some kind of far right extremists. 🤦♀️ no idea why they are fine being friends with us and other conservatives, but they can’t handle Jewish people with similar values...... though I don’t think they’ve met any in person. 🥴
Here in California unless you’re Orthodox you’re leftist. What’s amazing is that the children of holocaust survivors cherish Leftism. I’ve no idea how one hides from the truth over a lifetime.
Yep. I have no interest in hearing from people (family) who have so much sympathy now for Israel, but did vote and continue to vote for the anti-Semitic Democrat party.
Neither this disaster, nor Russia's invasion of the Ukraine would have occurred under a Trump administration.
Point #2 You know it's the same thing with hoping these Jewish commiecrats wake up or say they were wrong is like asking these same commiecrats to say the injections were a fraud, and or they were duped. Just rarely IF ever occurs
I had these conversations before the last few elections - why are you voting for people who hate you??? The answers were often empty identity/ oppression ideology nonsense - along with a faux belief no one on the far left actually hates Jews (when plainly many do). Sadly I have a feeling this may wake many up. Sad because much of the terrible stuff that’s happened the last few years was predictable to many of us - at least as it relates to US policy domestic and foreign. Biden was always going much worse repeat of Obama’s worst policies.
Yes. advisers like Barrack Obama. Face it , we have extreme anti-Semites in the highest levels of government, some are Palestinian. You don't send piles of cash to people who flew planes into our buildings Barry.
No doubt and most are obvious in knowing and simply "allowed" to stay as a taxpayer funded servant. Its a God damn disgrace these people are allowed in American government. ZERO real accountability is there and WE get to fund it all
For #2, I have the same experience. Most of the Jews I know are extremely liberal. I guess being rich makes Jews liberal, which in turn, causes Jews to misjudge.
It’s possible the election was rigged, far from impossible, though it would seem more likely Fatah - having been in power - would have more easily rigged the election for themselves not against themselves. It’s sad for the innocent. There are many. There are also many large crowds in the street of Gaza overjoyed by the mutilation of innocent Jews. To the extent Gaza is an “outdoor prison” it is Hamas who is making it a jail. The Arab world uses the Palestinians as political pawns which is also sad. They don’t take them in. Egypt bombs tunnels and keeps the border with Gaza sealed all the time. The fact remains Israel is the only country on Earth urged to show “restraint” or attacked for defending themselves. It’s a tale 3,000 years old.
In 2002 Saddam Hussein "won" 100% of the vote. In 2021 Syria's Assad got over 95% of the vote. Yep, they reported that with straight faces. If citizens There was a price to pay if you didn't vote for these monsters.
I just figured out from your post that we were neighbors (we recently moved to Raleigh, but I’m back “home” once a week) and that we might even know each other “in real life”. I lived within walking distance of that temple and the now “immigrant processing center.”
Yes, all but one family of Jews that we know are hard core lefties. I even asked one (former) friend why this is. She replied something to the effect that Democrats believed in helping people and were kind, moral voters. Wha?
There is also a large Palestinian population in the city of which you speak, most of whom are Christians. They are all rallying around Hamas. Again, the disbelief. Can’t we want good things for Palestinian people without supporting a full blown terrorist organization?
I’m also amazed at the apathy with which most Americans are viewing this situation unfold. Do they think this will not have global impact? Do they not consider the open border issue we face could result in a similar situation?
We may know each other in real life. 😊 Yes - it’s a very left leaning community.
After realizing I was actually going to need to have this conversation because of the nutty leftism here, I spent some time yesterday preparing my 12-year old daughter for some antisemitic tropes she might hear out of other non-Jewish friends at a bat mitzvah party for a Jewish friend coming up. Most of the girls going are woke (including the girl being celebrated). We went through everything - the Nazi regime didn’t “negotiate” to stop killing Jews, it’s not really a “cycle” when one side is constantly starting it, we can pray for the innocent Palestinians without ignoring Hamas did this, Israel left Gaza in 2005. No the Jews didn’t violently remove the Arabs during Zionism in the late 1800’s - they mostly bought the land. Borders and people around the world were displaced after WWI and WWII. Palestine pre-WWI was a region in the Ottoman Empire, not a country. Actually scale of violence does matter. Egypt seals the border and blows up tunnels to Gaza and no one complains. It’s hard to argue there is a group more indigenous to Israel than the Jews. I basically reviewed all the idiotic narratives to “justify” or whitewash that Hamas is nothing more than a Jew hating group of terrorists and was pleasantly reminded my 12 year old knows actual history. She’s read about 900 books with a heavy focus on historical ones and she knows far more about the Bible than me (my kids go to a large private Christian school 20 minutes away).
Anyway, we finish talking and I ask her if she had any more questions. She said “Do you think [friend] and her parents will be less into the nutty woke stuff after this?” I wish I knew the answer.
🤮 Can you do me a really big favor? I can’t send this because, well, there is too much pain right now and it wouldn’t go over well. But Jewish people living in Wake, Guilford, and Mecklenburg county should see what the people they voted for did today. It’s worth sharing.
Watching military-aged males stream over the border -- headed for all points of the country -- it certainly seems possible. You don't need to be an evil genius to figure out that you can send people who hate America into America through the Southern border.
Many of these military age males are coming from countries where military service is compulsory so they have experience. Regardless, eventually they will be given citizenship and will be used to attack patriotic American citizens since they will do whatever the government tells them to do, unlike native born Americans.
Only a fool could believe that the Israeli and us intelligence didn’t know about this. This was just what the war pigs here in the US needed to get that spigot back open. After there multi trillion dollar folly in Afghanistan they tried to pass the buck to Putin. That wasn’t workin anymore, and the money was drying up, enter these easy to hate terrorist animals to get the homeland riled up, and back onboard the war train. And don’t worry,that 6bil we gave Iran had nothing to do with it, our state department said so,and they never lie. Now its guaranteed another trillion for the laundromat After all it would be political suicide to not give Israel a blank check after what just happened. WWIII here we come.
This morning something didn't feel right, but I didn't get further than that and didn't say a word. Honestly, this only makes the whole thing uglier. It's normal to declare war after a disgusting attack like the one we have been hearing about. It is downright evil to pretend something like this happened, or have allowed it, or whatever, as an excuse to unleash destruction. If that is indeed what's going on here.
The whole region is one big pit of chaos. God help us all.
I doubt this is true, for one reason. Netanyahu knows his history, and remembers the notion that knowing in advance, having been warned by a third party, was Golda Meir's downfall in 1973. It would by cynical and callous beyond the pale, and politically stupid, for him to have similarly "known in advance" what was going to happen and sat on his hands and did nothing. If the cabinet or his political rivals got even a whiff that he knew in advance, he would already be out of office.
makes one wonder though how such a pre civilized group or evil could be so stealthily adroit in pulling it off over perhaps the best "early" detection country on the planet. The scope of this and NOT one tip off in any way is hard to get a head around. Just sayin
Agree 100%, actually. It could later turn out like 9/11's facts and circumstances, where the CIA and FBI were "aware of the dots, but failed to connect them." So we could later find out that some Israeli security folks had some facts before them, but discounted them. But that is different from the assertion that they "knew in advance and did nothing."
Jack, Netanyahu was/is in big trouble. It is feasible that he facilitated this to distract from his own issues. Kind of like our leader in the U.S. is doing. You are correct, it seems beyond the pale, but politicians will do anything to stay in power. They don't want to be prosecuted for crimes committed while they were in power.
Meh. Your assertions require significant complications. Occam's razor applies in these situations. We all need to seek out the simplest explanations before going headlong into skullduggery.
Actually, yes. One possibility: Hamas found a better way to encrypt their communications among themselves, and so they planned this attack without either Israeli or US intelligence agencies discovering it. There is precedent for this: Bin Laden stayed hidden in Pakistan for years and found a way to communicate with others undetected for quite a number of years.
I'm not a huge Bibi fan, but no, it's not feasible, and Joe Biden isn't even a gnat on Bibi's balls. Bibi was fighting terrorists in one of Israel's most elite units, while Biden was fighting off the likes of Corn Pop, (uh huh...sure) while lifeguarding.
Questioning people in power makes one an awful person now? Man I must be on par with Stalin then, I didn't comply with any of the covid crap from day one ANDCI questioned all the morons in power
There is questioning people in power and just a sick theory. What is wrong with you that you would ascribe such terrible awful motives to Netanyahu? What has he ever done or said that would put him in the same camp as pol pot, mao, Stalin?
I don’t know about that. That presumes very flawed intelligence networks distracted with domestic political issues intentionally allowed this to happen. I think it’s more likely a well funded group of Hamas terrorists whose goal is to kill Jews found a way to pull of their vile aspirations. These people are full of hate. And are well funded.
The horrible videos of Israeli citizens being slaughtered is the exact reason I am strongly opposed to the Democratic Party’s gun control efforts. You can never depend on the government to protect you and this was another example of why you do not want to be defenseless.
Warren and Taliaferro snuck back inside and phoned police again, who assured them officers were on the way. But no officers ever came, and when Morse and Kent figured out that Warren and Taliaferro were in the house, the men forced all three women back to Marvin Kent’s apartment. There, the women were robbed, raped, and beaten for FOURTEEN HOURS.
Yet when the women sued the city, the court ruled "the duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists". Calling the police — twice — and informing them of a crime in progress wasn’t enough to create “a special relationship between the police and an individual” (more on that later), and therefore police had no duty to intervene.
There's no legal duty. Luckily for us there are still a few conscientious and courageous public servants among our law enforcement officers, despite woke efforts to dilute their "toxic male" culture. That doesn't mean we can always depend on them, however.
Biden's spokesman John Kirby was on TV today yammering about climate change being the biggest "existential" threat we face. While Hamas has no nuclear capability, its main sponsor, Iran, either has that capacity or is very close to developing it. We are now on the verge of war on two fronts, but our Moron in Chief's people still babbles on about climate change. Biden himself read a speech the other day and then fled the room with reporters yelling questions about the Mid-East. Today, Brandon called a "lid" at 10:00 AM. The lack of leadership is astounding.
Biden’s Chief Handler - a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama - has repeatedly proclaimed that global warming caused by fossil fuels presents an “existential crisis.” But in 2022 he obtained a permit from the Edgartown Town Board to install three propane (a fossil fuel) tanks, with a total capacity of a whopping 2,500 gallons, on his 25-acre Martha’s Vineyard estate.
Apparently he does not want to rely on so-called “clean” energy sources (e.g., wind, solar, batteries) - understandably so, because those sources are intermittent and unreliable. But he, and others of his kind, want to force us deplorables to rely on those sources.
We need to stop viewing these global-warming/“green energy” hypocrites and authoritarians as fellow Americans, and start viewing them as the dangerous vermin that they are.
You’ve got that dead on right Rosie, the great black hope has been at the helm the whole time pushing to finish the destruction he started in ‘08, and he’s almost there. The world is burning once more and we are weaker than ever
Rio, so true. I was taken back several months ago when I learned how close he was to WH?. He finally came out with tweet about this horrible attack 3 days later. Wonder what took him so long? Hmm
These people need to shut up. Kirby Biden Blinken Harris and their ridiculous spokesperson. Just stop. We can't stand listening to you - or looking at you for that matter. Traitors all.
The shadow government that controls the puppet is lethal. I will never believe that Netanyahu knew Hamas was about to attack but I absolutely believe the puppet masters HERE desire the end of Israel and funneled far more than that paltry $6b to Iran. Iran is making billions on oil. They want to exterminate the Jews. So why is the USA helping?
I’ve been to Israel three times. The first time was when the Columbine tragedy happened in my hometown of Littleton, CO. That was ironic since so many people told me how dangerous Israel would be, and the next thing you know, I’m looking at folks from my hometown on the cover of the Jerusalem Post.
I went again a year and a half later, and more recently last year.
I don’t know if most people understand what a beautiful country it is! I always tell people if they ever get a chance to go they should. I’m a Christian and I’ve gone on my friend Amir’s tours (Behold Israel).
Nearly 25 years ago, he stayed at my home. I remember he pulled out his computer and showed me images of Palestinian children being taught at the age of two or three to “chew the Jews up and spit them out.” I imagine some of these who did these hideous acts might have been one of the ones I saw on the screen.
I love to read Dennis Prager’s Rational Bible books to understand how Jewish people interpret the same scriptures I read. I love the Jewish people and pray for them often.
I have not stopped watching the television since Saturday morning. I am constantly sharing information with my friends on social media.
As I go about my day, I ask people what they think about what happened and I am stunned to learn many don’t know about it. Today a lady told me she liked being “fat stupid and happy.” I said that sounds nice, but it’s coming to America.
One of the biggest questions I have always had about American Jews is why they tend to vote for liberals?
I will leave you with this the only Hebrew, I know:
Baruch haha b’shem Adonai
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord ❤️
Millions of military age men are here thanks to the criminal traitor in the white house. We have haters in congress (ugly women all). Please don't be surprised when Americans are attacked from 'within'.
I don't own a gun and wouldn't know what to do with one but I hope others are armed. I didn't understand the importance of the 2nd amendment but more and more I do understand now.
I think you are reading this incorrectly. How did the Hamas fighters enter unimpeded? Why was the fence not defended that morning? Why did Israel's intelligence, second to none in this world, not know this was coming? Why would Hamas wage this kind of attack knowing that the retaliation would be immediate and come in ten-fold upon the Palestinians? Ex-IDF personnel are expressing their incredulousness at how this played out and that their media are not asking the obvious questions.
The fence that was breached was only partially defended according to mainstream sources. They are calling it an unfortunate miscalculation to have sent defensive forces to the West Bank earlier. This is how Hamas' "success" is explained to the world.
So, an Islamic terrorist group was apparently aware of this deployment, or coincidentally picked the right day to launch an incursion against one of the best trained and equipped ground force in the area using a massive volley of rockets that were somehow locked and loaded unbeknownst to Israeli surveillance from the air or on the ground (I assume we all realize that the IDF has operatives on both sides of the fence).
They then attacked with hammers, knives and hang gliders, but surprisingly no box-cutters.
"It's Israel's 9/11!!".
Indeed it is...
You don't think BB and the war hawks that surround him are aching for a war with Iran, the only real threat to Israel in the area and a country that supports Hamas? What would be the best way to garner support for this lunacy?
This was a planned event. The lack of any real questions by the media confirms this.
Well, except for the first two questions, which have been answered. They used overwhelming numbers and automatic weapons and mortars to storm the checkpoint(s) where they entered, and killed all the Israeli soldiers at said checkpoint(s). The fence was defended, and those that did the defending are dead.
People slaughtering innocent human beings out of pure hatred is conceivable yet the idea of creating such an event for a highly profitable industry that would also consolidate power and authority isn’t?
Is it really so despicable to ask hard questions about such an event in the interest of preventing it from ever happening again?
Before labeling me as a problem or an anti-Semite, know that my wife is Jewish and feels the same way I do.
The real problem is our inability to understand how the world really works. Once we do, this kind of atrocity will never happen again.
And shame on the United States for their behavior. Marches in New York and Chicago celebrating the attacks! The squad: Cori Bush, Rashida Tlaib, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Jamal Bowman condoning, celebrating the slaughter of innocent Jews. These people are Americans, elected by Americans. They are evil and should voted out of office.
Ugly women all. Should be removed from office as traitors and enemies of our country. They were elected by people who hate America who should not have been allowed to come here. Diversity does not work when we allow people who hate us and want to destroy us to come here.
It why I have futile argued for a measured response. The Palestinian sympathizers and their he left have truly showed themselves for the who they are for all to see. This would be a great time to take stock of who these people really are and what they mean by “de colonization “. Yes they really want to kill more than just the Israelis. But I’d the IDF takes out 10,000. It’s back to moral equivalence
I considered your distraction theory as well as complacency, Mike Adams has a much more shocking theory why it happened. Before dismissing it outright, consider that facing an existential threat, a government might do the unthinkable.
For Mike Adams this is why the Hamas incursion occurred. He says the Israeli government allowed it to happen to gain public support for the use of nuclear weapons against Iran to destroy its nuclear program. He says they were willing to sacrifice a few thousand of their own people in order to gain support not only among their own people but among the liberal western countries. https://www.brighteon.com/6d28b0a8-de39-4848-bd0d-a2d896bfb7c4
Similar to the FDR theory that he goaded the Japanese into attacking pearl harbor knowing that only then would the American people support entering ww2.
It's still hard to believe that Israel would sacrifice so many people to change world opinion and provide a justification to eliminate an enemy. Remember how long they fought to arrange the return of one kidnapped soldier? But faced with the threat of nuclear annihilation I wouldn't rule out such an unthinkable calculation.
Strange ending to your commentary here. But also, to your point about hammers and knives, I get it, but don't understand why you left out the number of Hamas soldiers who were driving around in pickup trucks with automatic weapons mounted in the trucks' beds, firing at will. Also, you may not have intended it, but you make it sound like you are minimizing what happened when you say this was "not an invasion in any conventional sense." Hamas is the governmental body in Gaza, having obtained power in a coup. They make no claim minimizing that governmental body's involvement in this military incursion (i.e., an act of war planned and executed by Hamas, the governing body) - in fact they are proud of what they have done. Drone strikes were also used by Hamas this time around, and the usual rocket barrages were significantly increased this time so as to overwhelm Iron Dome, and that part succeeded as well. Sounds like conventional warfare to me. Guerilla warfare, certainly, but conventional just the same.
Most people out there are saying, accurately, that this event was worse than our 9/11. But I am in the camp that would rather use the analogy of Pearl Harbor. They suffered a sneak attack, and their enemy, no matter how poorly suited to the task, aims to put an end to Israel, and to kill every Jew in that land. It is plainly stated in their charter, in black and white. It is their raison d'etre.
You at least are clear-eyed enough to mention parenthetically the risk of a nuclear strike on Tel Aviv. You're right that such is beyond Hamas' capabilities, but soon it will not be beyond Iran's capabilities. Maybe 25 years ago, my Dad was at a coctail party amongst his friends & acquaintences in the cardiological field in our home town, many of whom were so-called progressive Jews that really had disdain for the hawkish government in Israel at the time, and were saying so at the cocktail party. My Dad couldn't resist and said to them, "ok I guess, but you know, if Iran gets the bomb, Israel is finished." You perhaps can imagine the stunned looks on their faces in the wake of that very obvious truth.
The slow rapproachment you mention is already shattered by this act of war, by Hamas, not by Israel's response, no matter how they choose to respond. War is at hand, whether any of us like it or not.
People suck in their ubiquitous inability to grasp reality of human evil and get sucked into a mythological narrative of fanciful being that ultimately dooms them to harm from evil. Bad times create strong men that create good times that create weak men that create bad times. The weak men have risen during our times of peace and prosperity and bad times have returned again. Let's hope we have enough strong men left to fix the bad.
I am really just speechless, and all we can do is pray. The little people like me don't have any control except to love the neighbors that don't want to kill us, and try to ensure this never happens to our families.
First of all, Hamas fighters are very well trained, just as are Hezbollah fighters, who have the added benefit of battle experience in Syria. The Arabs who slaughtered 265 Jews at a rave in the desert were 16-17 yr old kids, given rifles and Jeep's.
We haven't been in Gaza since 2005. The so-called siege didn't begin until days after evacuating Gaza rockets started landing in Israel from Gaza.
As an IDF combat vet, I will say there is only one solution, and that will be to completely destroy Hamas. Unfortunately that necessitates boots on the ground. There will be many many IDF deaths in that scenario, but there is now zero choice.
Imagine, for all of you thinking Hamas was justified, that the Jews of WWII Europe were able to fight back against the Nazis in any sort of coordinated way. Does ANYONE think that Jews, in order to fight their enemies, would resort to taking families out of their homes, raping the women, killing kids in front of their parents, raping them mutilating the bodies.
No....these are not freedom fighters or "militants". These are vile, evil, and worse than animals.
Gaza needs to become a seaside parking lot.
But first I'd send Rashida Tlaib to see (and feel) firsthand how parking lots are made.
I am baffled by your assessment. Every posting I've read describes the event as multi-prong, well organized and using diverse types of transport... timely followed by a shower of missiles.
HMM?
At home, I always question the reason why Jewish people overwhelmingly vote for democrats. Seemingly, democrats favor all against Israel.
If I read one more asshole on X tell all of us the Israel created Hamas my head will explode. yeah, Israel really needs to stop wearing all those short skirts so they stopped getting attacked.
I don't know much about the region and I'm horrified by everything happening there, but this:
"But against unarmed civilians, hammers and knives will do just fine."
sent a shudder down my spine -- and not because of what's going on in the Middle East.
I’ve lived close to a Temple or a Synagogue 3 of my 4 decades on Earth. As I write this there is a Temple less than half a mile from my house, and a poorly secured really sketchy child “immigrant holding facility” for “minors age 14-17” across the street from the Temple (once the American Hebrew Academy). The Synagogue I grew up near is about 2 miles away. I’m Christian, not Jewish, but have known this conflict my whole life through friends, but looking in from the outside.
I have only 3 thoughts
1 - I hope Israel destroys Hamas and Gaza is obliterated. I am heartbroken for the innocents in Gaza, but Hamas did this to them, not Israel. The people of Gaza elected terrorists. Israel didn’t ask for this. Hamas did. It’s a terrible result, but one Hamas insisted on.
2 - I have zero conservative Jewish friends or acquaintances. They are ALL very far left. They are part of the crowd who for 7 years has accused folks like me, parents, conservatives, MAGA, and Christians of associating with “Nazis” or being one. I would never say it out loud now - there is too much pain. But I hope they notice it was Biden that lifted sanction on Iran and their fellow leftists taking to the streets of NYC, SF, Atlanta, DC, and Florida to “stand in solidarity” with the vile terrorist thugs whose goal it is to murder all Jews. I hope they stop voting for these morons.
3 - We can and should pray for peace..... so long as we acknowledge the Nazis didn’t end the Holocaust. It ended when American and Soviet soldiers ended the Nazi regime. Hamas will not lay down arms or stop murdering Jews. This will only stop when Hamas is exterminated.
I’m Jewish and not a leftist. I occupy a lonely political island. The only explanation I have is that secular Jews fail to acknowledge what is right under their noses. Leftism is the strongest religion of all.
All my Jewish friends are conservative. We all golf, hunt and shoot competitively. You are not alone.
Can you come visit NC? Maybe attend a couple services? I like Dave Rubin, Rebel News, Ben Shapiro - long list. My neighbors think those folks, like all conservatives, are some kind of far right extremists. 🤦♀️ no idea why they are fine being friends with us and other conservatives, but they can’t handle Jewish people with similar values...... though I don’t think they’ve met any in person. 🥴
Here in California unless you’re Orthodox you’re leftist. What’s amazing is that the children of holocaust survivors cherish Leftism. I’ve no idea how one hides from the truth over a lifetime.
Yep. I have no interest in hearing from people (family) who have so much sympathy now for Israel, but did vote and continue to vote for the anti-Semitic Democrat party.
Neither this disaster, nor Russia's invasion of the Ukraine would have occurred under a Trump administration.
As I like to say -- the Nazis weren't going to Nuremburg themselves.
Point #2 You know it's the same thing with hoping these Jewish commiecrats wake up or say they were wrong is like asking these same commiecrats to say the injections were a fraud, and or they were duped. Just rarely IF ever occurs
I had these conversations before the last few elections - why are you voting for people who hate you??? The answers were often empty identity/ oppression ideology nonsense - along with a faux belief no one on the far left actually hates Jews (when plainly many do). Sadly I have a feeling this may wake many up. Sad because much of the terrible stuff that’s happened the last few years was predictable to many of us - at least as it relates to US policy domestic and foreign. Biden was always going much worse repeat of Obama’s worst policies.
One has to remember Biden was installed for a reason. He makes no decisions. His puppeteers do.
And there’s a very good chance that the puppetmaster pulling Biden’s strings is the Muslim Obama .
‘S
Yes. advisers like Barrack Obama. Face it , we have extreme anti-Semites in the highest levels of government, some are Palestinian. You don't send piles of cash to people who flew planes into our buildings Barry.
No doubt and most are obvious in knowing and simply "allowed" to stay as a taxpayer funded servant. Its a God damn disgrace these people are allowed in American government. ZERO real accountability is there and WE get to fund it all
For #2, I have the same experience. Most of the Jews I know are extremely liberal. I guess being rich makes Jews liberal, which in turn, causes Jews to misjudge.
Hamas and Islamic Jihad made secret ballots impossible. So that election really wasn't valid. And there hasn't been one since.
It’s possible the election was rigged, far from impossible, though it would seem more likely Fatah - having been in power - would have more easily rigged the election for themselves not against themselves. It’s sad for the innocent. There are many. There are also many large crowds in the street of Gaza overjoyed by the mutilation of innocent Jews. To the extent Gaza is an “outdoor prison” it is Hamas who is making it a jail. The Arab world uses the Palestinians as political pawns which is also sad. They don’t take them in. Egypt bombs tunnels and keeps the border with Gaza sealed all the time. The fact remains Israel is the only country on Earth urged to show “restraint” or attacked for defending themselves. It’s a tale 3,000 years old.
And for some ridiculous reason, Israel, not Egypt, supplies all the electricity, oil, and gas to Gaza.
Not after this.
Not now!
In 2002 Saddam Hussein "won" 100% of the vote. In 2021 Syria's Assad got over 95% of the vote. Yep, they reported that with straight faces. If citizens There was a price to pay if you didn't vote for these monsters.
I just figured out from your post that we were neighbors (we recently moved to Raleigh, but I’m back “home” once a week) and that we might even know each other “in real life”. I lived within walking distance of that temple and the now “immigrant processing center.”
Yes, all but one family of Jews that we know are hard core lefties. I even asked one (former) friend why this is. She replied something to the effect that Democrats believed in helping people and were kind, moral voters. Wha?
There is also a large Palestinian population in the city of which you speak, most of whom are Christians. They are all rallying around Hamas. Again, the disbelief. Can’t we want good things for Palestinian people without supporting a full blown terrorist organization?
I’m also amazed at the apathy with which most Americans are viewing this situation unfold. Do they think this will not have global impact? Do they not consider the open border issue we face could result in a similar situation?
We may know each other in real life. 😊 Yes - it’s a very left leaning community.
After realizing I was actually going to need to have this conversation because of the nutty leftism here, I spent some time yesterday preparing my 12-year old daughter for some antisemitic tropes she might hear out of other non-Jewish friends at a bat mitzvah party for a Jewish friend coming up. Most of the girls going are woke (including the girl being celebrated). We went through everything - the Nazi regime didn’t “negotiate” to stop killing Jews, it’s not really a “cycle” when one side is constantly starting it, we can pray for the innocent Palestinians without ignoring Hamas did this, Israel left Gaza in 2005. No the Jews didn’t violently remove the Arabs during Zionism in the late 1800’s - they mostly bought the land. Borders and people around the world were displaced after WWI and WWII. Palestine pre-WWI was a region in the Ottoman Empire, not a country. Actually scale of violence does matter. Egypt seals the border and blows up tunnels to Gaza and no one complains. It’s hard to argue there is a group more indigenous to Israel than the Jews. I basically reviewed all the idiotic narratives to “justify” or whitewash that Hamas is nothing more than a Jew hating group of terrorists and was pleasantly reminded my 12 year old knows actual history. She’s read about 900 books with a heavy focus on historical ones and she knows far more about the Bible than me (my kids go to a large private Christian school 20 minutes away).
Anyway, we finish talking and I ask her if she had any more questions. She said “Do you think [friend] and her parents will be less into the nutty woke stuff after this?” I wish I knew the answer.
Thanks for the detailed research. Forwarding to my young adult children. Apparently there is a pro Palestinian protest on Hillsborough St today. 🤦🏼♀️
🤮 Can you do me a really big favor? I can’t send this because, well, there is too much pain right now and it wouldn’t go over well. But Jewish people living in Wake, Guilford, and Mecklenburg county should see what the people they voted for did today. It’s worth sharing.
https://twitter.com/GatesMcgavick/status/1711828086918934823
Unreal. Yet why am I surprised? 💔
They’re here. Waiting. Joe Biden invited them in. It’s about to happen
Watching military-aged males stream over the border -- headed for all points of the country -- it certainly seems possible. You don't need to be an evil genius to figure out that you can send people who hate America into America through the Southern border.
My thought entirely. We don't know who Old Demented Joe Biden allowed into the country. We don't know where they are.
Israel was founded based on "Never again." You'd think the US would understand "Never again."
Wait. History is no longer taught in US schools--unless it's about white men who owned slaves.
Many of these military age males are coming from countries where military service is compulsory so they have experience. Regardless, eventually they will be given citizenship and will be used to attack patriotic American citizens since they will do whatever the government tells them to do, unlike native born Americans.
Scary and hard to even think about, but I’m very afraid you are right. I guess we’ll see...
Sounds like BLM and ANTIFA to me.
You still believe They didn't know this was coming, They being the various intelligence agencies.
We know you love Biden and are a Libtard at heart, but c'mon man.
Wake up.
THEY KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
Only a fool could believe that the Israeli and us intelligence didn’t know about this. This was just what the war pigs here in the US needed to get that spigot back open. After there multi trillion dollar folly in Afghanistan they tried to pass the buck to Putin. That wasn’t workin anymore, and the money was drying up, enter these easy to hate terrorist animals to get the homeland riled up, and back onboard the war train. And don’t worry,that 6bil we gave Iran had nothing to do with it, our state department said so,and they never lie. Now its guaranteed another trillion for the laundromat After all it would be political suicide to not give Israel a blank check after what just happened. WWIII here we come.
Where's Hunter? This took the spotlight off that piece of shit
Snorting meth off a strippers ass
Here is a body language expert analyzing Netanyatu's proclamation of war against Hamas: https://bitchute.com/video/pYPabQBIedtu [7:03mins]
Draw your own conclusions
After watching that, my suspicion is that Bibi's speech was scripted, he was acting, and that he's a freakin' puppet like Biden.
You are really stupid. Yeah Netanyahu was in on the rake and murder of women and children. Also believe in the elders of Zion?
This morning something didn't feel right, but I didn't get further than that and didn't say a word. Honestly, this only makes the whole thing uglier. It's normal to declare war after a disgusting attack like the one we have been hearing about. It is downright evil to pretend something like this happened, or have allowed it, or whatever, as an excuse to unleash destruction. If that is indeed what's going on here.
The whole region is one big pit of chaos. God help us all.
Wow, what a complete and utter crock of shit.
I doubt this is true, for one reason. Netanyahu knows his history, and remembers the notion that knowing in advance, having been warned by a third party, was Golda Meir's downfall in 1973. It would by cynical and callous beyond the pale, and politically stupid, for him to have similarly "known in advance" what was going to happen and sat on his hands and did nothing. If the cabinet or his political rivals got even a whiff that he knew in advance, he would already be out of office.
makes one wonder though how such a pre civilized group or evil could be so stealthily adroit in pulling it off over perhaps the best "early" detection country on the planet. The scope of this and NOT one tip off in any way is hard to get a head around. Just sayin
Agree 100%, actually. It could later turn out like 9/11's facts and circumstances, where the CIA and FBI were "aware of the dots, but failed to connect them." So we could later find out that some Israeli security folks had some facts before them, but discounted them. But that is different from the assertion that they "knew in advance and did nothing."
already FEELS so similar in how exacting and perfect in execution it was, but true "we could later find..."
Jack, Netanyahu was/is in big trouble. It is feasible that he facilitated this to distract from his own issues. Kind of like our leader in the U.S. is doing. You are correct, it seems beyond the pale, but politicians will do anything to stay in power. They don't want to be prosecuted for crimes committed while they were in power.
Meh. Your assertions require significant complications. Occam's razor applies in these situations. We all need to seek out the simplest explanations before going headlong into skullduggery.
Jack, what is the simplest explanation? Lack of intelligence? I doubt that.
Actually, yes. One possibility: Hamas found a better way to encrypt their communications among themselves, and so they planned this attack without either Israeli or US intelligence agencies discovering it. There is precedent for this: Bin Laden stayed hidden in Pakistan for years and found a way to communicate with others undetected for quite a number of years.
Jack, a possibility, yes. More likely, in Bin Laden's case, he was being protected by ISI in Pakistan though.....
I'm not a huge Bibi fan, but no, it's not feasible, and Joe Biden isn't even a gnat on Bibi's balls. Bibi was fighting terrorists in one of Israel's most elite units, while Biden was fighting off the likes of Corn Pop, (uh huh...sure) while lifeguarding.
Or Netanyahu is taking orders from The Committee of 300 just like Churchill did when let The Lusitania get sunk by the Germans
My God what us wrong with you people? If this is what your first ‘thought’ is you are a despicable and awful person.
Questioning people in power makes one an awful person now? Man I must be on par with Stalin then, I didn't comply with any of the covid crap from day one ANDCI questioned all the morons in power
There is questioning people in power and just a sick theory. What is wrong with you that you would ascribe such terrible awful motives to Netanyahu? What has he ever done or said that would put him in the same camp as pol pot, mao, Stalin?
Lynne, no, my first thought was that the people that did this should die. You will get more bees with honey. Relax and explain yourself, please.
I don’t know about that. That presumes very flawed intelligence networks distracted with domestic political issues intentionally allowed this to happen. I think it’s more likely a well funded group of Hamas terrorists whose goal is to kill Jews found a way to pull of their vile aspirations. These people are full of hate. And are well funded.
Like Toosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor!
🙄
The horrible videos of Israeli citizens being slaughtered is the exact reason I am strongly opposed to the Democratic Party’s gun control efforts. You can never depend on the government to protect you and this was another example of why you do not want to be defenseless.
You can't depend on government to protect you because government has no duty to protect you:
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/police-arent-there-to-protect-you
Warren and Taliaferro snuck back inside and phoned police again, who assured them officers were on the way. But no officers ever came, and when Morse and Kent figured out that Warren and Taliaferro were in the house, the men forced all three women back to Marvin Kent’s apartment. There, the women were robbed, raped, and beaten for FOURTEEN HOURS.
Yet when the women sued the city, the court ruled "the duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists". Calling the police — twice — and informing them of a crime in progress wasn’t enough to create “a special relationship between the police and an individual” (more on that later), and therefore police had no duty to intervene.
There's no legal duty. Luckily for us there are still a few conscientious and courageous public servants among our law enforcement officers, despite woke efforts to dilute their "toxic male" culture. That doesn't mean we can always depend on them, however.
It means you can't depend on them, EVER, because you can never know who those people are.
If one of those few heroes is in the vicinity and jumps in to help, that's just a bonus -- you still have to depend on yourself.
Thanks SC. I have heard something similar before, so I am not surprised by your post. Unfortunately, most Americans are clueless about it.
I know I was........
Biden's spokesman John Kirby was on TV today yammering about climate change being the biggest "existential" threat we face. While Hamas has no nuclear capability, its main sponsor, Iran, either has that capacity or is very close to developing it. We are now on the verge of war on two fronts, but our Moron in Chief's people still babbles on about climate change. Biden himself read a speech the other day and then fled the room with reporters yelling questions about the Mid-East. Today, Brandon called a "lid" at 10:00 AM. The lack of leadership is astounding.
Oh, there's leadership all right. Just not from Biden. His handlers almost certainly know exactly what they're doing. I've become completely cynical.
I believe Biden's Chief Handler is renting a mansion in DC....when he's not at his climate change-defying beach house on Martha's Vineyard.
Biden’s Chief Handler - a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama - has repeatedly proclaimed that global warming caused by fossil fuels presents an “existential crisis.” But in 2022 he obtained a permit from the Edgartown Town Board to install three propane (a fossil fuel) tanks, with a total capacity of a whopping 2,500 gallons, on his 25-acre Martha’s Vineyard estate.
Apparently he does not want to rely on so-called “clean” energy sources (e.g., wind, solar, batteries) - understandably so, because those sources are intermittent and unreliable. But he, and others of his kind, want to force us deplorables to rely on those sources.
We need to stop viewing these global-warming/“green energy” hypocrites and authoritarians as fellow Americans, and start viewing them as the dangerous vermin that they are.
I would argue that the radical Democrat left including Obama are the biggest existential threat to all of us.
You’ve got that dead on right Rosie, the great black hope has been at the helm the whole time pushing to finish the destruction he started in ‘08, and he’s almost there. The world is burning once more and we are weaker than ever
I think even he has handlers, but he's more in the know for sure.
Exactly. Obama’s team is running the country.
Spot on Rosie!!!!
Rio, so true. I was taken back several months ago when I learned how close he was to WH?. He finally came out with tweet about this horrible attack 3 days later. Wonder what took him so long? Hmm
My reply to everything now is "Why am I not surprised."
These people need to shut up. Kirby Biden Blinken Harris and their ridiculous spokesperson. Just stop. We can't stand listening to you - or looking at you for that matter. Traitors all.
Astounding and frightening. He’s overwhelmed and out of league as well as his mind.
If there is a war, we need plentiful inexpensive energy. Not solar panels and windmills.
The shadow government that controls the puppet is lethal. I will never believe that Netanyahu knew Hamas was about to attack but I absolutely believe the puppet masters HERE desire the end of Israel and funneled far more than that paltry $6b to Iran. Iran is making billions on oil. They want to exterminate the Jews. So why is the USA helping?
I’ve been to Israel three times. The first time was when the Columbine tragedy happened in my hometown of Littleton, CO. That was ironic since so many people told me how dangerous Israel would be, and the next thing you know, I’m looking at folks from my hometown on the cover of the Jerusalem Post.
I went again a year and a half later, and more recently last year.
I don’t know if most people understand what a beautiful country it is! I always tell people if they ever get a chance to go they should. I’m a Christian and I’ve gone on my friend Amir’s tours (Behold Israel).
Nearly 25 years ago, he stayed at my home. I remember he pulled out his computer and showed me images of Palestinian children being taught at the age of two or three to “chew the Jews up and spit them out.” I imagine some of these who did these hideous acts might have been one of the ones I saw on the screen.
I love to read Dennis Prager’s Rational Bible books to understand how Jewish people interpret the same scriptures I read. I love the Jewish people and pray for them often.
I have not stopped watching the television since Saturday morning. I am constantly sharing information with my friends on social media.
As I go about my day, I ask people what they think about what happened and I am stunned to learn many don’t know about it. Today a lady told me she liked being “fat stupid and happy.” I said that sounds nice, but it’s coming to America.
One of the biggest questions I have always had about American Jews is why they tend to vote for liberals?
I will leave you with this the only Hebrew, I know:
Baruch haha b’shem Adonai
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord ❤️
I have asked myself same question. How can they vote Liberal? I also follow Amir as my only source of news from Israel. I pray for him and his family.
The Israelis have grown relaxed in just 40 years. The general population is dumbfounded, by this attack.
The US has been relaxing for 70.
How far down are our abilities ?
Millions of military age men are here thanks to the criminal traitor in the white house. We have haters in congress (ugly women all). Please don't be surprised when Americans are attacked from 'within'.
If anything like that happens, the aggressors will discover that they have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with terrible resolve.
I don't own a gun and wouldn't know what to do with one but I hope others are armed. I didn't understand the importance of the 2nd amendment but more and more I do understand now.
You need to get one, and learn how to use it. There are plenty of resources available to help you learn how to use it safely.
You really don’t want to know.
I think you are reading this incorrectly. How did the Hamas fighters enter unimpeded? Why was the fence not defended that morning? Why did Israel's intelligence, second to none in this world, not know this was coming? Why would Hamas wage this kind of attack knowing that the retaliation would be immediate and come in ten-fold upon the Palestinians? Ex-IDF personnel are expressing their incredulousness at how this played out and that their media are not asking the obvious questions.
The fence that was breached was only partially defended according to mainstream sources. They are calling it an unfortunate miscalculation to have sent defensive forces to the West Bank earlier. This is how Hamas' "success" is explained to the world.
So, an Islamic terrorist group was apparently aware of this deployment, or coincidentally picked the right day to launch an incursion against one of the best trained and equipped ground force in the area using a massive volley of rockets that were somehow locked and loaded unbeknownst to Israeli surveillance from the air or on the ground (I assume we all realize that the IDF has operatives on both sides of the fence).
They then attacked with hammers, knives and hang gliders, but surprisingly no box-cutters.
"It's Israel's 9/11!!".
Indeed it is...
You don't think BB and the war hawks that surround him are aching for a war with Iran, the only real threat to Israel in the area and a country that supports Hamas? What would be the best way to garner support for this lunacy?
This was a planned event. The lack of any real questions by the media confirms this.
Very GOOD questions!
Well, except for the first two questions, which have been answered. They used overwhelming numbers and automatic weapons and mortars to storm the checkpoint(s) where they entered, and killed all the Israeli soldiers at said checkpoint(s). The fence was defended, and those that did the defending are dead.
https://thejewishvoice.com/2023/10/how-hamas-pulled-off-its-unprecedented-surprise-assault/
You are mentally ill and a despicably person. How can you even conceive of something so vile. The problem is YOU!
People slaughtering innocent human beings out of pure hatred is conceivable yet the idea of creating such an event for a highly profitable industry that would also consolidate power and authority isn’t?
Is it really so despicable to ask hard questions about such an event in the interest of preventing it from ever happening again?
Before labeling me as a problem or an anti-Semite, know that my wife is Jewish and feels the same way I do.
The real problem is our inability to understand how the world really works. Once we do, this kind of atrocity will never happen again.
https://thejewishvoice.com/2023/10/how-hamas-pulled-off-its-unprecedented-surprise-assault/
And shame on the United States for their behavior. Marches in New York and Chicago celebrating the attacks! The squad: Cori Bush, Rashida Tlaib, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Jamal Bowman condoning, celebrating the slaughter of innocent Jews. These people are Americans, elected by Americans. They are evil and should voted out of office.
Ugly women all. Should be removed from office as traitors and enemies of our country. They were elected by people who hate America who should not have been allowed to come here. Diversity does not work when we allow people who hate us and want to destroy us to come here.
Listen to people when they tell you who they are. Remember them. These and others.
It why I have futile argued for a measured response. The Palestinian sympathizers and their he left have truly showed themselves for the who they are for all to see. This would be a great time to take stock of who these people really are and what they mean by “de colonization “. Yes they really want to kill more than just the Israelis. But I’d the IDF takes out 10,000. It’s back to moral equivalence
I considered your distraction theory as well as complacency, Mike Adams has a much more shocking theory why it happened. Before dismissing it outright, consider that facing an existential threat, a government might do the unthinkable.
For Mike Adams this is why the Hamas incursion occurred. He says the Israeli government allowed it to happen to gain public support for the use of nuclear weapons against Iran to destroy its nuclear program. He says they were willing to sacrifice a few thousand of their own people in order to gain support not only among their own people but among the liberal western countries. https://www.brighteon.com/6d28b0a8-de39-4848-bd0d-a2d896bfb7c4
Maybe a crazy theory but think about it.
Similar to the FDR theory that he goaded the Japanese into attacking pearl harbor knowing that only then would the American people support entering ww2.
Yes indeed.
Another despicable and false theory. You people are truly disgusting.
I didn't say I believe that. It's a theory. I'm horrified by what happened and am very pro Israel!
It's still hard to believe that Israel would sacrifice so many people to change world opinion and provide a justification to eliminate an enemy. Remember how long they fought to arrange the return of one kidnapped soldier? But faced with the threat of nuclear annihilation I wouldn't rule out such an unthinkable calculation.
Agreed
Think of it this way. If they calculated that Hamas had to go and they attacked on no pretext even America would condemn them.
And US intelligence knew about it too. Listen to Bill Barr on Primetime yesterday
What did he say?
Strange ending to your commentary here. But also, to your point about hammers and knives, I get it, but don't understand why you left out the number of Hamas soldiers who were driving around in pickup trucks with automatic weapons mounted in the trucks' beds, firing at will. Also, you may not have intended it, but you make it sound like you are minimizing what happened when you say this was "not an invasion in any conventional sense." Hamas is the governmental body in Gaza, having obtained power in a coup. They make no claim minimizing that governmental body's involvement in this military incursion (i.e., an act of war planned and executed by Hamas, the governing body) - in fact they are proud of what they have done. Drone strikes were also used by Hamas this time around, and the usual rocket barrages were significantly increased this time so as to overwhelm Iron Dome, and that part succeeded as well. Sounds like conventional warfare to me. Guerilla warfare, certainly, but conventional just the same.
Most people out there are saying, accurately, that this event was worse than our 9/11. But I am in the camp that would rather use the analogy of Pearl Harbor. They suffered a sneak attack, and their enemy, no matter how poorly suited to the task, aims to put an end to Israel, and to kill every Jew in that land. It is plainly stated in their charter, in black and white. It is their raison d'etre.
You at least are clear-eyed enough to mention parenthetically the risk of a nuclear strike on Tel Aviv. You're right that such is beyond Hamas' capabilities, but soon it will not be beyond Iran's capabilities. Maybe 25 years ago, my Dad was at a coctail party amongst his friends & acquaintences in the cardiological field in our home town, many of whom were so-called progressive Jews that really had disdain for the hawkish government in Israel at the time, and were saying so at the cocktail party. My Dad couldn't resist and said to them, "ok I guess, but you know, if Iran gets the bomb, Israel is finished." You perhaps can imagine the stunned looks on their faces in the wake of that very obvious truth.
The slow rapproachment you mention is already shattered by this act of war, by Hamas, not by Israel's response, no matter how they choose to respond. War is at hand, whether any of us like it or not.
I saw a lot more than hammers and knives. They didn’t invade with kitchen tools.
People suck in their ubiquitous inability to grasp reality of human evil and get sucked into a mythological narrative of fanciful being that ultimately dooms them to harm from evil. Bad times create strong men that create good times that create weak men that create bad times. The weak men have risen during our times of peace and prosperity and bad times have returned again. Let's hope we have enough strong men left to fix the bad.
I am really just speechless, and all we can do is pray. The little people like me don't have any control except to love the neighbors that don't want to kill us, and try to ensure this never happens to our families.
How many guns do you own? Are you trained? If not why not?
First of all, Hamas fighters are very well trained, just as are Hezbollah fighters, who have the added benefit of battle experience in Syria. The Arabs who slaughtered 265 Jews at a rave in the desert were 16-17 yr old kids, given rifles and Jeep's.
We haven't been in Gaza since 2005. The so-called siege didn't begin until days after evacuating Gaza rockets started landing in Israel from Gaza.
As an IDF combat vet, I will say there is only one solution, and that will be to completely destroy Hamas. Unfortunately that necessitates boots on the ground. There will be many many IDF deaths in that scenario, but there is now zero choice.
Imagine, for all of you thinking Hamas was justified, that the Jews of WWII Europe were able to fight back against the Nazis in any sort of coordinated way. Does ANYONE think that Jews, in order to fight their enemies, would resort to taking families out of their homes, raping the women, killing kids in front of their parents, raping them mutilating the bodies.
No....these are not freedom fighters or "militants". These are vile, evil, and worse than animals.
Gaza needs to become a seaside parking lot.
But first I'd send Rashida Tlaib to see (and feel) firsthand how parking lots are made.
Some had a bit more than hammers and knives. Many had guns and rocket launchers.
I am baffled by your assessment. Every posting I've read describes the event as multi-prong, well organized and using diverse types of transport... timely followed by a shower of missiles.
HMM?
At home, I always question the reason why Jewish people overwhelmingly vote for democrats. Seemingly, democrats favor all against Israel.
If I read one more asshole on X tell all of us the Israel created Hamas my head will explode. yeah, Israel really needs to stop wearing all those short skirts so they stopped getting attacked.
Ron Paul
Blame him.
The article I read sounded perfectly reasonable.
But I don't know how it relates to today.
Careful want you wish for ?