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Finally, you are starting to get it. Almost.

The Obama administration opened up a counter-intelligence operation against candidate trump, and later President Trump on false evidence that they knew was bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign.

So the alphabet agencies were actively working to undermine and destroy a sitting president through lies and subterfuge, with Obama knowing the whole time.

Gee, there's a phrase for that - Seditious Conspiracy? Treason?

And you treat it like it's water off the duck's back. And are just now starting to acknowledge how grave it is that the far left has hijacked the legal apparatus in this country and is using it to terrorize anyone who doesn't walk in lock step with them.

For the love of god Alex, you are a great journalist. Take off those Manhattan liberal tinted glasses for good and seek the truth. The actual truth. Our country is becoming a nightmare. That is not hyperbole.

Hate Trump all you want, but the people going after him are abusing power in ways that we've never seen in this country.

Thank you.

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The single worst part of American politics is that people want to “like” their president. YOU DONT KNOW THE PRESIDENT. You know a caricature as presented to you by the media.

Berenson of all people should understand following the facts regardless of the narrative. I didn’t vote for Trump in ‘16 because there were no facts, only narrative. In ‘20 it was the most confident vote I’ve ever made. The facts were no new wars, the first administration to raise real wages for the bottom 25% of the country in my lifetime, and the first glimpse behind the curtain of exactly how in control the administrative state is of every facet of our life.

And yet we don’t vote for him cause the media says he says mean things sometimes?!

We are literally a nation of giant children.

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Bravo!

Trump's mean tweets are irrelevant. Who cares if he insults Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi? If they're crying in their pillows, they need to get over it.

In the meantime, how's your bank account? Do you feel confident that we won't get dragged into a ridiculous war?

Yep, that's what matters!

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Sure does!! Also what matters is what is being taught in the schools taxpayers pay for? How many illegal kids are crowding the classrooms? If parents speak out they're monitored as domestic terrorists.

Also the continuing gap growing in the "elites" in power and the "common folk" who appear to be expendable.

The continued movement to mutilate children with so called gender affirmation care.

The inflation....

The boarder....

The corruption....

God it goes on and on!!!

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This is what I mean. On every single issue this Democrat Freak Show has screwed up the country.

And this happened b/c Trump insulted some foolish people? Hell, I insult these same people alone in my kitchen while I'm making coffee!

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Love it! “Freak Show” the most apt description on record.

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🤣😂 I hear you!!

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Or, as Lincoln said of Grant, “I can’t spare this man. He fights.”, holds true for Trump.

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Quoting Tucker on Twitter “Cling to your Taboos!”.

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We now know that Hillary deserves more insults than Trump has even thought of saying.

Some fool might believe that Hillary never knew about all the stuff Durham and others uncovered. It is possible.

But she is not that stupid.

She at least knew almost the whole time. And lied endlessly.

To her great shame.

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I am now convinced that the HRC's of the world are unable to feel shame. Or guilt. Or Irony. Can you imagine their first taste of any of those concepts?

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AI has more feelings than the HRC's of the world

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Good point, worth 10,000 points. Maybe more!

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Not just HER. Obama and Biden and the rest of the deep state. Treason.

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You give her too much credit.

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we went from Trump's supposedly mean tweets to ALL tweets being mean... not a good trade-off, IMHO. Any time one speaks common sense or truth, the nasty pile-on begins. got me off of FB forever. 😒

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I don't like the lies and the people he keeps around him. Voted for him twice I won't won't vote for him again. Not a good guy

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What lies? Why is he not a good guy?

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I cannot recall ANY candidate for president (and most other nominees in all positions) that I ever "liked." Who wants to be a politician??? Not any "likeable" person I have ever met.

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I guess my point is that we really have no idea if they're likable. Frankly, I don't even know how you define that. What they're really saying is are they a good actor. That's legitimately the question that's being asked when we say we "like" a politician. We aren't asking these people to babysit our children, they aren't sharing beers around a campfire. This guy isn't helping me move or build my shed. Their literal job is to stay the hell out of my life and keep everyone else out of my life as well. Where does whether or not I "like" them come in?

Obama is the absolute encapsulatoin of this (in my lifetime). The guy is literally blowing up children in every middle eastern country he could find an excuse to bomb but we "like" him because he's very good at acting like a good person when the cameras are on. How is that in ANY way relevant? The guy oversaw the largest wealth transfer in human history, DESTROYED the poor in America, and again, bombed everyone he could find an excuse to bomb but he's the "nice" guy because he speaks well and has an outlandish fake "aw-shucks" about him?

I just don't understand how very intelligent people, and for all his east-coast elitist's biases I think Berenson is intelligent, can STILL be caught in this trap of stupidity regarding the "likability" of a president.

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Agreed. I really don’t care if they are likeable. I care about policies.

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You aren't implying that Alex has a case of...I hate to say it...TDS??? There is apparently no big pharma product that can manage or cure it...

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He has SOOOOO much TDS. Culture elitism is a BIG deal in NY. It's very European in that regard. I could write 10,000 words on this, but if you know what I'm talking about you know what I'm talking about, and if you don't, it's going to take 10,000 words on the history of immigration, the tribal nation of Europe and the US's big cities at their founding, and the lasting impact it has to this day in terms of social acceptance, and no one actually wants to read that :)

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Yes! I am aware of the NY cultural elitism, we have people here in IN that try to virtue signal by subscribing to the NYT, LOL...But if anyone is managing the symptoms of TDS without use of pharma products, Alex is doing pretty well.

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I think it's gotten worse even as he tried to back off from it. We see this in his comment about "the revulsion" January 6 caused. Sure, it caused revulsion, because people wanted to be revolted, which is why they need to watch CNN 24 hours a day.

A CNN addict I know recently had her TV struck by lightning. You'd think her apartment building burned down.

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Maybe there is an mRNA vaccine for that condition. I'm sure Alex would jump on that.

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Obama…the person on the planet most in need, literally, of an exorcism.

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Ephesians 6: 10-17.

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I think some people take it for granted that we don't vote for who we "like", but others want to vote for someone they could be friends with, or some such nonsense.

If they're still talking about his tweets, it's ridiculous. He isn't even going back on Twitter.

I love the "acting the part of a nice guy" take on Obama. A total act.

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It's like being a general. Nobody cares if he's likable, just that he wins battles.

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In reply re 2016: ok, Trump was a blank slate to a large degree. But Hillary was not. The prudent thing was to vote against Hillary.

And, more than any politician since 1960, Trump did what he said he would do. And, as you said, it was good.

Do I like him? Well, yes, even about myself there are things I do not like.

I do admire his courage and willingness to fight.

Now, I would prefer DeSantis.

But this legal war on Trump is shameful for America.

And re the Presidential Docs, unfair in part because many others have done the same or worse. Clinton and Obama the same. Biden worse. Hence, not fair.

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@ButTheDataSays I want to give you 10,000 points just for your handle. The distinction you point out applies to voters on both sides. I am hopeful that a few people like you can get a few other people to at least consider the notion.

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He has bad orange hair.

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That was Great, Kudos, Thanks couldn’t have said (or thought) it better myself. Pithy.

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That was the same way my husband and I voted. That is the biggest reason I believe 2020 was rigged. I don't think he lost any voters and gained many on his first 4 years performance.

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For those who convince themselves that they’re not up against normal political opponents but Literal Fascism™ led by Hitler 2.0 — which it’s no exaggeration to say is a core tenet of contemporary Democratic party politics — then it is not only expected but even rational to embrace authoritarian tactics to stave off this existential threat. Political parties that don’t believe they can win the old-fashioned way will seek to criminalize their adversaries, as criminality renders justifiable any subsequent acts of repression.

https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/reflecting-on-trumps-rise

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Just think, if Alex can change his mind - even a little - we might have a chance to get through to these liberals once and for all.

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It's just complete and total BS. It's not even remotely fair. Assume for a second these documents were classified (Trump says he declassified them as president). They were under 24 hour guard by the Secret Service in a highly secured facility. Hillary Clinton ran the entire business of the Secretary of State through an unauthorized private server and then destroyed emails after receiving a congressional preservation order.

Biden left classified documents in at least three unsecured facilities, some for over a decade.

What Trump did doesn't even come close to what Biden or Clinton did, and that's if you buy the bogus argument that Trump had to follow the official declassification process.

THIS IS NOT FAIR.

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Additionally, Trump is the only one of these three who had the authority to declassify anything.

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You'd think everyone would have shut up after they found documents he should never have had at two locations. (I stopped reading about this early on, so maybe it got debunked, but more than likely the story was squashed.)

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He may have just had a TDS flare up, I hear they are painful...

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Alex never would have changed his mind if this hadn't happened to HIM, too. When it was totally obvious. Still, better late than never. And even this much IS hopeful.

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Too little too late. There simply is not the time. The world is not sitting idly by as we watch the left sink us. The world isn’t helping us either.

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i think alex is being fair here in reserving judgement until the charges are fully revealed.

he acknowledged that the NY charges are bogus.

he intimated that the biden charges are (obviously) far worse.

alex will still vote for biden, but probably because he's smarter than us and all the people who tell me that they are very smart vote for biden and not trump.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alex-berenson-vote-democrat-trump-2024-gop-get-destroyed-nominee

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I predict Alex would vote for Biden, like many many Independents would.

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It just boils down to your standard boilerplate TDS. Alex can acknowledge that the justice department is basically acting like Biden's personal Gestapo. He can acknowledge that the Democrats were responsible for almost all of the fascist tactics during COVID. He can acknowledge that we now have a two tiered justice system where even wrong think can end you up in prison.

He can acknowledge all of that, and then in the next paragraph say he'll be voting for that same totalitarian regime because, wait for it....Orange Man Bad.

Typical.

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Sorry, Joe, but there are liberals with TDS, but there are conservatives that actually feel there are better choices. When you throw out TDS and Orange Man, you automatically discount policy and effectiveness issues. It's not me wearing blinders, I think it's you, actually. Maybe we need to start tracking "Only Trump Syndrome" as a medical disorder?

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We have an opportunity in Trump that we have never had in American politics. The very survival of himself and his family rests on his elimination of that which harms us all, an out of control power hungry criminal bureaucratic State. Every single other candidate has something to lose by going up against this criminal organization and thus will be committing virtual suicide if they take as far as need be. Trump will be committing suicide if he does not take it all the way.

Do not squander this opportunity.

I would also like to ask, who would have fared better than Trump given the widespread insubordination of the entire federal government given what Trump knew when he took office. How many of those who are know stating how they would clean house if elected in 2024 believed in 2020 that things were as bad as they are?

Again, let’s not squander this chance to lock these criminals up.

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Um, this is exactly why I'm supporting DeSantis. He was a warrior in Congress before he left to run Florida. He's as tough as Trump, yet says far less stupid shit. Moderates will vote for him, and they have already said they will never vote for Trump because of his nonsense and narcissism.

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I had hope for DeSantis.

But he's Mitt Romney 2.0

No thanks.

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that's a pretty good prediction since he's literally on record stating that is his future intention.

i don't know if you read the article i linked, but he's quoted as saying "The GOP has a branding problem. Trump is toxic & just plain mean. I'm not the biggest Biden fan since he had me deplatformed, but what is Biden's brand? Senile pedophile? No contest, no Independent voter will vote for Trump. I hate to be the one to say this on Fox News."

now, full disclosure, i'm not sure if that's an exact quote from the article, because opening it up & reading it seems like a lot of work, but my point stands.

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I'm not sure he would vote for Biden. Maybe stay home. Not sure he's THAT liberal or stupid.

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RFK jr says he decided to run because private polling said it was possible for him to win -- with the path to victory involving many votes from independents (like me) and numbers showing that if nominated as a Dem he could beat Trump and beat DeSantis even more handily.

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I'm sorry, but knowing Alex as we do now I can't believe he'd vote for Biden. Maybe another Democrat, but not Biden.

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You said it perfectly Joe. I can't believe Alex doesn't get it. And worse still, PM Trudeau has already turned Canada🇨🇦 into his "Post Nation State", a dictatorship nightmare Canadians may never escape from. We're living in fear here, that feeling in the pit of your stomach that says you're on the precipice of doom. Everything that's happening in USA🇺🇸 is full blown in Canada🇨🇦. The USA🇺🇸 is being turned into a "Post Nation State". Both Canada🇨🇦 and USA🇺🇸 will lose sovereignty and will function at the will of the very corrupt Globalist's OneWorldGov't🇺🇳

Trump said it perfectly. "They don't want me. They want you". Trump said "America will never be a socialist country." And Soros responded that Trump would become a distant memory, a forgone conclusion. This war for the world is being played out in plain view and someone as intelligent as Alex can't see it? That's frightening to me. This isn't just about the future of the USA🇺🇸. If the USA🇺🇸 falls, Canada🇨🇦 will fall and the entire free world will go with it.

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Beautiful summation Joe! But I I think I have it figured out. Alex voted for FJB, from whom we have received the most catastrophic damage to our country over any 2 and 1/2 year period in history. Gotta relieve the cognitive dissonance somehow….make Trump the villain.

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They can't admit they've made a mistake, so they bury themselves in words.

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And frankly, anyone who sees through the smoke, knows that Obama was speaking the truth when he said he'd be fine, having a front man who mouthed words, while he had a third term pulling the strings behind the scenes. After all this is the sort of hallucinatory politics you would expect from a cloaked keyboard manipulator, who doesn't have to answer for Biden's insanity.

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You are spot on with this. The same has been going through my mind as I read Alex's piece. Almost like he regrets having to acknowledge the truth and barely get the point across.

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Attempted coup is another phrase. Except that to some degree, the coup was successful.

The Russia Collusion hoax story was run endlessly. I believe that, by itself, stole the election from Trump in 2020.

The the Hunter Laptop story was suppressed. It is very reasonable to believe that the laptop suppression by itself stole the election from Trump.

Do not forget that Joe Biden completely, in our faces, lied to the American public about that in the famous Pres debate.

Then, there were LOTS of election related “problems”. Most of which were never research in any detail (the courts often felt there was no possible remedy - so no case, dismissed).

It seems probable the election was stolen that way....but I think we have no proof. It is possible, even likely, that some of the allegations would prove false -- but the question is -- looking at all the allegation across all 4 states, did the true bad stuff “steal” the election? I think we do not know for sure in that area.

By now, I am VERY suspicious. But we don't know in that specific set of facts. Whereas, for the other two, it is clear.

And is clear how many bad hands were involved together.

It makes me ashamed to call myself an American to admit that we allowed these fools to steal an election.

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Think about it this way. In all of the rust belt states that Trump carried in 2016, the counting was stopped at roughly the same time. They were run by the Democrats, so fairly easy to do (although most people thought it was odd).

But in the one state with suspicious results that was controlled by republicans (Georgia), counting in Fulton County was stopped at the same time as the Dem controlled rust belt states because of a water leak. Then we come to find out that it was actually just a clogged toilet.

Isn't it odd that in a place like Georgia, that Trump carried by five points in 2016, they got exactly the same delay as in the Dem controlled States? That's quite the coincidence.

The election was stolen. End of story. And now the Dems are reaping the rewards.

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And then they started counting again after telling the poll watchers to go home for the night..........

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So far, the COUP HAS been successful.

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Best reply ever. I am immune to the vicious virus that is DC. ALEX PLEASE WAKE UP! Stop giving leeway to the left!

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Amen! Take off the liberal glasses. Be a journalist.

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I think you're being unfair to Alex. It's dangerous to say the things he did, especially considering where he comes from. I admire him for that.

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Well said.

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Thank you for such a well worded admonishment. I am not as communicative. Seems the response should be with hemp rope, not words.

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well, if you exclude the assassination of JKF that is

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Alex, I like to read your Substack because you somewhat represent the middle.

Regarding this discussion, you can not ignore the presumed evidence that was presented (somewhat presented behind closed doors - which is also curious and can not be ignored) of bribery yesterday, $10 million to the Bidens from Burisma...

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Isn't this exactly what Trump was impeached for asking about? Right?

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ding ding ding.

Trump asks the president of Ukraine to look into allegations of massive fraud in his country. And for that he is impeached.

Trump takes home documents that he gave a standing order to be declassified upon their shipment to Mar-A-Lago. Now, maybe there is an argument to be made that he had to follow a specific declassification process (pretty weak argument btw), but at most that should lead to the supreme court weighing in on the president's duties around classification. Nothing even beginning to approach criminal behavior.

And on the other hand Biden sits on hundreds of classified documents, in unsecured locations for YEARS, including when he was a senator with zero authority to classify or declassify. Not just selective prosecution. Pure persecution.

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Yes, he asked for a LEGITIMATE investigation with evidence of obvious corruption and maybe treason, and they IMPEACHED him for it.

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That indicates that this bigger than just Biden.

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None of it matters, our elections are a farce. Without voter ID, millions of ballots will be counted that never found there way to the rightful owner. Mail in balloting will keep the dems in power, you watch. The polls mean nothing, they know how to win.

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Sadly, I agree. After watching the way democrat courts in so many states changed basic voting rules to favor their party during COVID (never let a crisis go to waste), there is no other conclusion. My only hope is that the GOP organizers get their game on and play by these new rules as well as the dems did in 2020 and 2022. Not holding my breath.

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The republican governor in the state of Nevada has a bill that ends the California mail in cheating. The problem is he cannot get it through the democrat legislature. I have not heard of one battle ground state that has successfully ended mail-in balloting along with the ballot harvesting and drop boxes. The polls can say what they want, but as long as the democrats can cheat, they will continue to win.

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The GOP can not play by the same rules. If they try, they will be arrested and on trial just a they are doing to Trump.

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I’m still wondering why the RNC didn’t have a counter offensive to the shady things that did go on during 2020. I mean Trump was President, yet the RNC did Nothing to stop this at all?.

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Because it has terrible, entrenched, fat & happy leadership that isn't really interested in changing anything. Harmeet Dhillon ran against Ronna McDaniel (a Romney by blood) on this exact issue to try to change things last year, but lost. McDaniel has been RNC chair since 2017...may as well be 1917.

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“given the revulsion the January 6th mess provoked in almost everyone who wasn’t a hardcore Trump supporter “

I think you are wrong about that. Not a hardcore Trump supporter or even someone who voted for him but who nevertheless sees the entrapment and imprisonment of 1/6 innocent citizens as a total violation of everything this country once stood for

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Some of the Jan 6th defendants have still not had a trial after being held for over 2 years. The FBI is still hunting for Jan 6th suspects. One thing that shows what a farce Jan 6th was is Ray Epps. Epps was seen on camera directing people into the Capitol and the night before he was on the street urging people to enter the Capitol. Ray Epps was on the FBI most wanted list until people noticed and his picture mysteriously was taken down. He testified before the Jan 6th committee that he is a victim because a few in the media pointed out that he did these things but was never arrested while some people went to jail for trespassing.

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I mean, we all know that he was a plant. The Dems and their buddies in the alphabet agencies aren't even trying to keep up a pretense of fairness. They are pulling out all of the stops. That is worrying.

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The agencies could do this to any of us, including Alex. I'm worried too.

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Some Jan6 defendants still in jail and others sentenced to years in jail & I would not question it IF those BLM folks who rioted in summer of 2020 destroyed property, attacked police and yet no big deal to what they did. We have a Justice system for them & another one for us. If this ship is not turned around FAST there will not be much left for our children & grandchildren.

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January 6th is the day Nancy Pelosi dreamed of and she created a nightmare. She owns it. She and Ray Eppers.

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Look: under the BEST circumstances, Donald J. Trump is a horse's ass. That said, I will vote for the Republican nominee, whoever that turns out to be. (I say that b/c I cannot conceive of that behemoth buffoon Chris Christi surviving the New Hampshire primary.)

Joe Biden is a demented, decrepit, senile,, old fool. He'd be the head of a criminal family if he knew his own name. He's fallen--what? 3 times in public? How many times has he fallen down in PRIVATE? We'll never know b/c the Secret Service isn't talking.

Since there's no evidence that Biden will ditch his moronic running mate, that sets up the nation for this blithering idiot to become The First Woman President.

God help us.

Which brings us to Hunter, who is a catastrophe of a human being.

So...

Go ahead: Indict Trump. It doesn't matter. I don't give a shit. It doesn't matter which Republican's name is on the ballot. The bigger issue is rescuing the nation from this Democrat Freak Show, this DEI Clown Car.

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I wonder every day how people can vote for Biden. Do they see the same things I see? DEI, trans ideology being pushed on kids, Critical Race Theory, money being drained from the middle class by inflation, student loan bailout, (where people who didn't take out loans get to pay for other people's loans), demonizing of parents who want a say in what is taught to their children, and hatred being fomented against half the country.

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The border! Don't forget the BORDER!

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What a mistake I made. That's the biggest problem we face. Don't worry Mayor Adams is going to solve it. Pay NYC residents to take illegals into their homes. What could go wrong with that?

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Everyone should do their thing, but I'd advise against this. Party loyalty is one of the biggest reasons the US is on the path it's on. Because the parties know this. So they just rotate the uni-party through the different parties every few years so they can pretend there's balance in this country. It's not Dems vs GOP. Not even close. It's them vs us, and the parties are them, and the us are us.

Patrick Bet David is the best on this. Find the people they - the party - hate the most, and vote for that person. Do it every time in every election no matter what. Party is absolutely irrelevant. You really think Lyndsey Graham is better than AOC just because he has an "R" next to his name? The "R" next to his name makes him worse, because at least AOC isn't pretending.

Everyone should have their own order, but I'm Trump, RFK Jr., Vivek, in that order. Whichever one has the best chance of winning is who I'm voting for. I'd MUCH rather vote for a loser than continue to participate in this charade of a duopoly any longer, and the minute the majority of the country realizes that parties exist specifically to keep us trapped and instead vote for the actual candidate the like the best, is the minute this country has a chance to turn itself around.

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To be clear, I'm a registered independent (or "unenrolled" or whatever the state calls it.) I just happen to vote Republican b/c I live in Massachusetts. LOOK AT MY OPTIONS! That fraudster Elizabeth Warren? Little Eddie Markey, who's holding AOC's skirt hem, just to get attention?

And the list goes on.

Every ballot I've ever cast in this state is in OPPOSITION to the Democrats' death grip.

However, I am likely to take the Democrat ballot next year in the state primary, and vote for RFKJr., if only to undermine that addled fool now occupying the White House.

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Nevermind then, you're right, and I'm wrong, and you should absolutely just rage against those in power, especially when it's been a dominant majority for THAT long. I lived in Chicago for a long time and I felt exactly the same way - voting was a complete waste of an activity, but I did it because I just refused to accept that everyone was going to spend their entire time their voting for their own demise, and yet, here we sit...

state control really is GREAT for the people at the top, and a great mirage for the people at the bottom, and a great way of feeling better about how much you don't actually care for the people in the 3/4's quartile (the swing voters). It's those people in 3/4's quartile who drive me crazy...

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That's our plan. And then the same as you, vote whoever is R.

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Are you aware of where RFK Jr stands on issues? He’s better than Joe because he has a brain, but Many of his issues are FAR LEFT. He is no Conservative at all.

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I think I have a decent idea where RFK jr. stands on the issues. He's certainly more 'big government' then I care for, and until I understand how he views the debt and monetary/fiscal policy I won't actually vote for him, but he's doing the right things, it sounds like, in trying to learn and connect with people all across the map (when you're talking to Bollagy about Crypto, you're exploring ideas mainstream politicians won't go near).

My view on RFK is there is no 3rd rail for him, and that's what I want. it's why they hate trump so much as well - there is no 3rd rail, nothing is off limits for him, including bragging about how broken the tax code is and how easy it is for the ultra-wealthy to take advantage of it. It's those reasons why they hate him, and if RFK is willing to attack the largest lobbying group, largest donor group, and most influential money - big pharma - in all of politics, then he gets my attention just by default.

Also, I'm not a "conservative" politically speaking. I'm conservative in the way I view my life, my time, and my family, but I refer to myself as a "classical anarchist" politically. Government should be the absolute last option in literally every case. RFK Jr. likes social programs, if he can build them while decreasing taxes (which he could if social programs weren't 95% waste) then I'll give him a chance...

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No to RFK. Hard pass

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Not for the General, but I think he can shake up the Primary a lot.

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Good side-step away from the set-up they've saddled us with. That's what convinced me Trump was the best in 2016 and more so in 2020.

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Is Biden running and if he wins, then turning it over to our VP, knowing the is No Chance she’d win as the candidate? Is Biden running

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Alex, I'm curious as to why you decided to avoid the recent revelations that Joe apparently received a $5m payout from businessman in the Ukraine? We now have conformed that the FBI had this information from a credible source and it looks like its been verified through bank records. Why so quite on that? Seems to be pretty important in the grand scheme of things. There are also apparently even more documents that the FBI has had on other bribes Joe has allegedly taken.

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Alex is very slowly realizing that the deranged left didn't just lose their collective minds during Covid. It's finally dawning on him that they want complete and total control.

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This indictment is just a “ look over there a squirrel!” They saved it for just the right time. The timing is everything! 🐿

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In a total breach of prior protocol NARA refused to assist Trump with the assembly, collection, and classification of documents during the transition phase. So he and his staff were left to do the work themselves. Then after he was out of office NARA accused him of taking classified documents he should not have taken.

Leaving aside the plain fact that the Presidential Records Act is the controlling law, and leaving aside the fact that a President can declassify anything he decides to declassify, and leaving aside the fact that irrespective of anything else the PRA has no criminal penalty attached to it, it could not be more clear that the entire thing was a set up. Planned long before the election, which “they” knew he would lose.

They have no real interest in an actual prosecution and conviction. This is all about trying to tarnish him enough that he cannot win. Because they know if he does, they are all going to prison. For a long, long time.

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We are now living in a post constitutional republic. It doesn’t matter what you, or anyone thinks of his morals or personality. As a candidate, that is up to the voter. At least it was when votes meant something.

The much bigger problem, IMHO, is the absence of the rule of law, and the destruction of our voting system.

If you want to vote for someone you like and who’s morals resonate with yours, that’s you prerogative. I prefer policy & execution. However, if votes no longer matter, it’s all fiction.

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Yes that is the issue that Alex and the Left don’t want to address- the Elections. Slowly opening eyes. 81 million votes my ass!

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Absolutely this.

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Fact: Donald Trump told the National Archives Library to come and take whatever er they wanted of the papers stored at Mar-A- Lago.

Fact: The FBI checked the paperwork storage at Mat-A-Lago ND told Trump to put on an extra lock. That''s all.

Fact: Trump as President could declassified any papers in his possession.

Fact: Joe Biden could not as VP or Senator possess any declassified material, or take any paperwork home.

Fact: The Biden family have 20 or more shell companies in their names, which is only similar to crime families.

Fact: Joe Biden is called the Big Guy in the testimony from the whistleblower's source, who also said it would take 10 years to discover the money trail of the $10 million in payments to Joe and Hunter Biden through shell companies.

Fact: Tony Bobolinski and the emails in Hunter's laptop also mention the Big Guy being Joe Biden.

AS AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER FOLLOW THE FACTS.

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$10M from Ukraine. What did we do this week? Send billions more to Ukraine.

Influence peddling is not a crime or treason.

Maybe 86,347 IRS agents could find something....

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The DOJ had a huge problem: The fact pattern the DOJ wanted to press against Trump was that he was asked to return classified documents via subpoena, and that he "obstructed" by not complying. The problem was the DOJ knew that many other former government officials - including Biden and Pence - had retained classified documents when they left office. They knew that Trump’s lawyers would bring this up immediately. So here's where the DOJ constructed a crime against Trump: After the DOJ made a public spectacle of raiding Trump, they made sure to *ask Biden and Pence for any classified documents they might have*. This is the DOJ's trick: They wanted to show that Biden and Pence complied *when asked*. The problem with this tactic is that it was a naked attempt to construct a crime against Trump. The first thing Trump's lawyers should ask in court is "Why did the DOJ ask Biden for his classified documents only in 2022, just after the FBI raided Trump - when they knew about the classified documents Biden took over 40 years ago?" In fact, it's clear that Biden didn't comply: the DOJ kept finding documents at more locations and at far less secure locations, and for much more time outside the government's possession - than Trump had his documents. And the DOJ could have taken Trump’s documents at any time, if they thought it was a national security issue, without charging him - because they always knew where his documents were.

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They're turning Trump into the folk hero he claims to be.

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He is a folk hero.

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Well, there is something to it. Especially now that he's being pursued by the obviously corrupt FBI and DOJ.

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He's a hero because he's pushing back against the bullshit. Anyone else would have gone behind closed doors and made a deal to make this all go away months ago. Which would have sent a terrible message to the country. Basically that the left can do whatever it wants and you will be crushed for even wrong think.

What a time to be alive. When a former carnival barker real estate developer is the closest thing to an actual statesman.

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Isn't it interesting that Trump gets impeached by Dems/Rinos for merely asking Zelensky about potential corruption in his country, that we now come to find out was being investigated by the FBI the whole time? Why didn't Bill Barr or Chris Wray say anything about this at the time? Things that make you go hmmm...

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Bill Barr said recently that Trump antagonized the National Archive lawyers by keeping them waiting for 3 months. That's a reason for indicting?

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They could have shown up with a warrant the day after he left office and picked up all of the documents. This entire thing is absurd.

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They want a show for the public to see. They're trying to take away the people's right to choose a President. Sounds like an insurrection.

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Rino reasoning to be certain

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The way to get to us is to destroy him and they are sure trying their absolute best

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I see...so this is a "strong" case vs the crap-sicle Bragg dished out. I'm old enough to remember "Russia Russia Russia" and the Steele Dossier nonsense so excuse me if I don't believe anything being spewed by "The View".

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The Espionage Act of 1917 is a United States federal law enacted on June 15, 1917, shortly after the United States entered World War I. The ACLU wrote an amicus a few years ago attacking it. Don't expect them to defend the orange man. It's a shameful over-reach against free speech. Same bogus bullshit that they threw @ General Michael Flynn (see the Logan Act). My God these deranged Trump-haters will just not stop.

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Jack Smith is obviously a straight shooter, a man beyond reproach. Haven't you seen the pictures of him in his legal garb? Just kidding. What a joke. Obviously handpicked by the Biden Administration as someone who knows what to do. I want Trump to go away, but this is absurd on every level and I am starting to feel sorry for the guy even though he has made plenty of mistakes.

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Alex, C'mon man! Hunter Biden did not just try to sell influence to the Chinese, he DID and was paid around 5 million. He also received a giant diamond from the Chinese. His financials are coming out in his deadbeat dad case. He is trying to hide assets so he doesn't have to support, much less acknowledge his own daughter. Hunter should have gone to jail several times. The FBI has had his laptop since 2019. The evidence is there but no indictments. Top intel people called it Russian disinformation so Biden wouldn't be tainted before the 2020 election. Whistle blowers have said the FBI has been slow walking the case. How many cases have they brought against Trump in the meantime? Two impeachments with scant evidence, The Stormy Daniel's payment, and the classified documents he kept. Biden has classified documents from when he was a Senator. No big deal. Biden had documents in his unsecured garage. No big deal. Biden had documents at his foundation at UPENN with access to the Chinese. No big deal. Trump had documents in a secure room at Mar-a-Lago which is guarded by the Secret Service. Russia Gate went on for 4 years + and there was NO proof Trump was a Russian agent, yet the media kept swearing to it. Some people still think it's true. There are 2 justice systems, one for the Bidens and their friends and one for the rest of us who have no important friends.

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Did your rose colored Ray Bans crack to let a little light through? I hope you, along with many others, realize before its too late that the support us red hatted, toothless, knuckle draggers show for Trump is for the sake of our Republic. Crime after crime has been committed against this Republic by the deep state with the 4th Estate complicit. Thanks for speaking up - even if it was just a wimper.

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