I am not going to pull a post that simply quotes directly from your newsletter unless you can explain to me what I have interpreted inaccurately. Your words are clear - you recommended the whole virion vaccine as a booster (and even mentioned Omicron infection) but said nothing about the mRNA vaccines. Do you believe people should receive an mRNA booster? If so, why didn't you mention that? They're widely available. If not, why not?
If she wants to go on the record calling for an mRNA booster and explain why she didn’t do so in her newsletter - instead recommending a vaccine that is unavailable in the United States- I will happily report her words and update/correct the post. (A Q&A would be even more interesting, so she can speak to all of you directly.)
Hopefully she’ll get back to me. If she does, I’ll let you know what she says.
Trump is definitely off-base on this but at the time Covid hit he surrounded himself with people like Fauci to develop the mRNA vaccinations the difference with Trump is he acknowledges personal freedom and while he advocates that you should have one because he had one he has never ever even implied that people should be forced to have a medical procedure against their will . Most freethinking Americans understand that people will disagree with them but they also expect that those disagreements will not be forced upon them
Personally I don't think your "average man on the street" citizen ever bothered to look deeply into his history. It's not easy to do if the extent of one's research skills extend no further than google or yahoo. I remember about Feb. of 2020 having a discussion about this "new virus thing" spreading, and my dinner companions immediately started expressing how with someone like Dr. Fauci in charge, it was nothing to worry about. I did a kind of recoil, being very familiar with all his horrifying decisions concerning HIV, and having been reading for quite some time about gain of function research and his involvement. I will never forget the puzzled looks on their faces .... "whatttttt ? what are you talking about ? It was so obvious I was the only one in that group aware of it. No one had ever heard of "gain of function" research, and it was obvious all they knew of him was from the very sudden onset of a P.R. campaign to make him a "legend", someone everyone everyone seemed to know, like some kind of entertainer or sports star. Thought that odd also, for one obscure researcher no one had previous heard of !
Yes - the madness is real among good, well-meaning people.
A good friend lost his dad at the beginning. Denied HCQ and early treatment. Both built a manufacturing establishment with many private and govt. contracts.
Son recently told me he “trusts the govt” which was shocking in light of all the corruption and scandals.
For some it may just be too painful to see what’s happening and admit to the sheer misanthropy.
My own background is in psychology, so of course my personal opinions are going to be colored by my formal education ! However, I think you "hit the old nail" right on the head when you said you "suspect" the real culprit is the PAIN (pride) an individual experiences when one realizes (to use an old saying from my GRANDFATHER) one had been"bamboozled". The sheer misanthropy indeed !
That's not from The Art of War, which is a respected work of tactical strategies. It's from a movie call The Godfather which is fiction. That's not how you run a govt.
Thank you. Sounds like you're familiar with both. I'm a fan of the former and never watched the latter.
Fortunately, I don't run a government, nor have any intentions.
Maybe you're familiar with paraphrasing, or that themes run through history and literature, something about Samuel Clemens.
Book 1
Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
Book 13
Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men. #
Having LOCAL SPIES means employing the services of the inhabitants of a district. #
Having INWARD SPIES, making use of officials of the enemy. #
First quoted by Sun Tzu, the Chinese general and author of The Art of War, an ancient treatise on military strategy, the statement was given more contemporary relevance in the 1974 film The Godfather Part II when spoken by Al Pacino’s character Michael Corleone.
That's funny, when I read that above I was thinking it was from Machiavelli's The Prince, but I think NJ the election advisor is the one who is correct, Sun Tzu is the author, rather it appeared in his Art of War, or in his other writings first, not sure. In the movie Godfather, my guess is it was an attempt to show one of the movie's sub themes..... that Micheal (called "college boy" by the older members) was well educated, had read Art of War, but certainly Mario Puzo, author of The Godfather, is not the author of those words.
Voted for Trump--supported much of his policies but he should never be allowed anywhere near the WH again. I felt that way the moment he allowed this mass murderer (Fauci) anywhere near the podium. If I knew Fauci's background how come he didn't---or any of his closest advisors? If Trump was this poorly advised in 2020 theres no trusting him ever again.
Fauci had been there for decades. What was Trump going to do, "Oh a pandemic might be headed our way, time to fire some top bureaucrats". He paused flights coming in from China and got lit up by Democrats. Yes he pushed to develop a vaccine but probably didn't whisper to Big Pharma "Make the vaccine a massive failure while I push for extreme mandates, then let's have Biden and Harris tell the world they don't trust it, then have this dimwitted pair fraudulently assume office and immediately begin demonizing people who believe 'my body, my choice', then let's make sure the Dems impeach me for a second time on my way out so that I'm further distracted from the southern border and Biden will cancel wall construction and let millions pour in without Covid protocols but mandate vaccines for our military before sending them off to guard the Ukrainian border... it's the PERFECT plan!"
Yelling about Trump right now is like yelling "Look over there, a parakeet!"
Oh, Trump did a lot more than that. First he strong armed the American auto industry, and others, into converting their factories into ventilator factories that he would ship all over the world to save the world! Brilliant, as we ended up killing thousands of people with over-ventilation and most of that stockpile of ventilators ended up doing nothing more than gathering dust in warehouses.
Then he turned to the most wonderful, miracle vaccines ever devised! He got into bed with Pfizer, Moderna and J&J and cleared the way for them to rush mRNA vaccines that had failed to pass clinical trials for the decade prior to suddenly all deliver 'safe and effective" ones within a month of each other. Miracle indeed! He watched and waived them on through as they destroyed their control groups, cut corners on their trials and ensured they received total indemnity from damages their miracles might cause. Along the way he smartly brought in Scott Atlas as an advisor and, as he always did, quickly threw him under the bus at the behest of the swamp, effectively crowning lord Fauci as king of public health until he either dies or is physically removed from office.
"Yelling at Trump," aka criticizing him about this makes perfect sense because he is responsible for ALL of it in his effort to look like a hero before the elections. He could have backed sanity and promoted sane people like Scott Atlas instead of burying him, but he didn't. He did everything he did to bring about this shitshow because Trump does not believe in the principles of limited government and personal responsibility. Instead he believes that the government is the answer to every problem.....as long as he's giving the commands or it's his commands that are being followed.
It's all the answer to Sage Hana's question. He's not a commie but he is a self absorbed dumbshit. And yeah, I voted for him twice anyway because the other dumshits he ran against were even worse.
You are not really good at remembering the real-time situation of 2020. Your version of events relies solely on hindsight. Can you pick a leader that got every or any decision correct?
Ok sorry, I might've read your comment wrong... also a little hair trigger cuz I have two young daughters getting buffeted by mandate calls, and no matter one's political affiliation, I think honest thinkers might admit it's hard to envision Trump pushing mandates, or at the very least, on our amazing soldiers.
Right. Fauci is on film telling us kids could get aids living in the same house with someone in the 80s. He's been a puppet forever. He flip flops constantly as he follows the script. But yeah Trump doesn't know this. LOLOL.
Exactly. Its all gone. They'll murder you and yours instantly if you go.against what's coming.he has a good kush life, kids and grandkids. He's not thrwing it away for likely something he cannot change.
... I remember my dad getting really scared about the early 1980s AIDS thing, having three teenage daughters... knowing what we know now, if i could go back in time and let my dad know what a scumbag fauci is and not to worry...
You hit the nail on the head….. and of course the scarf queen- i will say in his defense he is not a creature of Washington- when there is a fire raging - he doesn’t look to see if the water is in a Blue bucket or a Red bucket….. i think that has changed pretty significantly but not totally- here in Nashville he just endorsed a candidate for rep who worked on the Jeb Bush Campaign….. she is nice but there is a fiery pro trump guy who has a high profile in our area and is very popular….. so unfortunately - he still has weak knee’d establishment types in his inner circle…….
As Churchill said “he is the worst candidate, except for all the rest”!!
Right. He has a weakness for some of the people who were in his orbit. He needs to stay out of some races until he thoroughly vets the candidate.
In Ohio we have a good replacement for Gonzalez (RINO, Impeachment voter), but Trump is supporting someone who worked in WH, though the guy is not well connected to our area.
Trump will weaken his influence if he readily endorses people.
Yep - Totally on point. So what's the solution? A completely new governmental structure? No one seems immune from compromise. Sadly I see my choice to come down to the best worst option.
And another difference is...Trump is a businessman, not a medical Dr. or Medical scientist unlike this lady doctor. The whole reason of having NIH, etc. is to serve / provide the President (and probably "We the People") the information he / she needs to make a decision. Just like those Generals, Economists and Councils who exist to advise Presidents.
But he's making it about CHOICE. In my mind, that is the BIGGEST and most important difference. The vaccine is probably right for "some" people; but don't force anyone to ever get something they don't want.
I would say it's not right for anyone at this point. And he called other politicians "cowards" for not declaring they got a dangerous "booster". Trump may be playing the fence, but he needs to jump off and pick a side.
The reality is that there has really not been enough research to determine any of that. Maybe it did help elderly people in confined spaces like nursing homes? I want time for more honest, detailed studies. BUT GIVE ME A CHOICE.
Fair argument, but without evidence, we should be assuming it is ineffective....not the other way around. The burden of proof was never met, and we've just accepted, without evidence, that it has helped anyone.
I hear you - but I wouldn't want to deny it to someone if it could help them. Obvi the science has changed; but my feeling about it has not changed and I'll do everything to NOT get it. I'm afraid they'll take away our rights to vote if we don't get it :o(
He's not a dipshit. Operation Warp Speed happened under him. He will never go against the brand -- i.e., why he boasts so vociferously about the vax & boosters. But he IS quieting down about that (see Florence, AZ). Egomaniac? Sure. Dipshit? No. We're on the brink of war with Russia to defend Ukraine's sovereignty which is an absolute JOKE because Biden certainly doesn't believe in our sovereignty. But, yeah. Okay.
The Ukrainians do NOT want us to defend their sovereignty, we screwed up not fulfilling our Budapest Memorandum promises in 2014 under Obama.
The Ukrainians want the weapons, especially anti-aircraft, they will and CAN take care of the invaders on their own .... the Iron Dome we helped Israel with would have been nice as well.
No, he's just the guy who officially approved gain of function again for Fauci, kept him on and did everything he wanted, rushed through the toxic clot shots, and is still out there pushing them.
He did not approve it again according to the DARPA papers. Fauci went around the order not to proceed and provided support through the Eco Alliance group with the help of Peter Dazak and Ralph Barack.
If you're going to make specious arguments, have some facts to back them up. Glen is absolutely right. You see no irony that you lead with TDS while trying to enlighten us all. Lord help us. Hard pass.
I don't think Trump was very good at weeding out swamp to help him run his Presidency. He wants (craves?) the adoration of his fans and to be the "savior" of the American people. That is his biggest fault. I think there were a lot of "spies" (not sure of the correct word here) in Trump's time and Fauci was def one of them. If by punked, you mean, tricked then yes....I do think Fauci tricked him. Sometimes, Trump can't get out of his own way and because he had little to no political experience, had to rely on folks that had been in office for a long time. Four years is not a lot of time to expose the Deep State that has been in play for awhile.
Read some books on this. Josh Rogin from Wash Post to start and a host of others. He did not officially approve gain of function again. A low level bureaucrat did. Pres. Obama had Fauci cease and desist this bullcrap and then when Trump assumed office, a bureaucrat re-upped on this monstrousity.
Oh, I agree it stops with whoever is President. Never said otherwise. But just raw facts about who approved what, you're being intentionally obtuse. But, hey, that's your right.
Trump is such a grandiose narcissist that he *wants* the vaccine to be the healer of all so that *he* can take the credit in the end. Also, all politicians are two sides of the same coin and he is certainly getting financial gains from the vaccine being sold. He's the one who gave Fauci the big microphone and for that he can never be trusted.
I think he wants to take credit for the vaccine - and that has made him blind about this issue - but his love for America is bigger than his shortcomings.
So you seem quasi reasonable unlike many of the superhero stans on this thread.
Love for America is a totally different issue.
I love America, too, but that doesn't mean I want people to get in a Ford Pinto with an exploding gas tank once the evidence emerges that it is defective.
It's a non-sequitur.
You need a level of savvy, esp. when you are pushing exp. gene therapy that is oh by the way, KILLING PEOPLE.
Sage Hana - I do think personal responsibility plays a big role here. Are you saying that we are mindless rats running around a hamster wheel, blindly following Trump? Trump would not have mandated the vax but he would love to take credit for it. His perspective does not make me run out and get the vax (Ford Pinto) though. I have a brain and it's up to me to find the info and then make my own decisions (not blindly follow). If folks insist of buying that Ford Pinto - then that is their choice, regardless of who is pushing it. I have a way bigger issue with Biden/Harris saying they would NOT get a vax developed under Trump and then turnaround and MANDATE it? This ..... is NOT ok.
Whatever he says, the left will do the opposite. So he pushes the jab... most of his base has made up their mind to take or not take. The message isn't for them.
No, his message is to the never-Trumpers to keep them on edge, on their heels constantly.
I was a never-Trumper... never liked him since the 1980s. Still, he didn't get to be a billionaire ($4 billion?) by being stupid. He also let that collapse to $2.5 billion during his presidency.
It's hard to read someone's mind but we can see their actions:
- no new wars
- Pax Romana with North Korea
- thundering economy
- low gas
Granted - I don't like some of his EPA / environment moves, or his rangy speech, but I do get the feeling that he became a patriot that wanted to protect the US and expose the rot.
His genuine care for this country is evident in every interaction with the public and in his acts as president. I don't believe he was compliant with the NWO people in the vaccine roll-out. He was simply surrounded by bad advisors.
Have been in too many scuffles ... I'm lucky to be alive.
Never underestimate yourself or your foes.
If you think this is hero worship then you've got the wrong person.
I worship God alone and ask for help and protection from His saints, angels, people of good will and those who've gone before us.
The shots are about tyranny. This was never about a virus.
This was about control, denying early care and then giving a horrible standard of care after admissions to the ERs.
This is about a loss of bodily autonomy and movement passports.
DJT did push for Warp Speed but never threatened movement passports or loss of employment or schooling for those who refused to be injected with experimental mRNA gene therapies.
The World Economic Forum clan (think: Crenshaw, Adern, et al.) is stridently pushing that with onerous deprivation of liberties. Maxwell, Epstein and even Trump touched that crowd. Maxwell and Epstein were thrown under the bus. Trump hopefully distanced himself.
Again, I was a never Trumper who viewed him as an egomaniac only helping Trump. Then I watched him in office and saw his successes (and failures), and especially see the darkness and division of the Obama years, succeeded by the pedophile JOBama year and there seems that there was a lot of redemption for him in that time.
Trump is terrible on this issue. I will give him a small bit of credit that he isn't pro-mandate. But we can't spin his enthusiasm for "OWS." It's his baby and he is very defensive about it. I notice he has been more subdued about the matter lately, though.
We humans have no other reasonable place to go, the moon or Mars aren't reasonable places. So we have to make Earth work, which includes picking up the pieces of our brothers and sisters who, as you pointed out, going to lose their minds (if they haven't already lost them).
United we stand, divided we fall.... and there's too much division.
Personally, I think you raise several good points in this thread. I have said multiple times that the last 2 years have been enlightening. I've been forced to re-evaluate many of my political instincts and to look anew at political figures. I mean, I would still vote for Trump over Biden - that's not the issue for me - but I would also have to admit that Trump carries a lot of baggage. I think he was the right guy in 2016, but he may no longer be the "right guy." Though he had some idea about the corruption in DC, the depth and breath of it was clearly not appreciated. Not by Trump, not by anyone, really.
Unfortunately, it's not just DC. Every hospital and clinic in the US is corrupted by CMS, and those big bureaucracies in turn corrupt 95-99% of doctors.
It's not his initial actions with which I take issue, it's his apparent inability to learn from experience and adjust when needed. I say that as a two time Trump voter. But after the last two years, he has to be wiser and more agile and admit when he made a mistake. The evidence of both the safety and efficacy of these shots is undeniable. The least he could do now is to not go out on tours with Bill "no spin" O'Reilly.
Not to poke, but your comment is quite …back and white. Especially the “ you ppl”. Take a beat…and perhaps a breath …we are not enemies, and we are not perfect…we are all trying our best, no one is the death of us…that’s unfair, low blow…find grace and space to understand that we all are truly trying.
Another liberal not liberal? I'll communicate how I communicate I don't know why you sensitive types need to tell others how they should talk. You think your comment will do what? MAke me chamge how I see it? It's a curse to be ahead of the curve believe me.maybe one day you'll know. Maybe not. PS. Not to poke.. Then poking. You're my favorite kind of zen. LOL
Daddy wants you to. Wouldn't want to "play into their hands", would you?
That's how "they" win! Own the libs and get the jab, homie!
“We saved tens of millions worldwide by creating the vaccine.”
“It would have been like the Spanish flu without it. … We should take credit for it, and you play right into their hands” when you question the vaccine’s value, he added.
It’s funny because Americans are still very influenced by the puritans. One is either 100% good or bad right? That’s childish. Trump is awesome but he’s not perfect and he’s wrong about this one. It’s called being human.
Well, then. Guess every leftist, liberal and socialist in the country is also a "Dumbshit" (your words--not mine) because they have enthroned him as their god. All of them are being "absolutely played" (your words--not mine) every single day by the pseudo-scientist Fauci. If that were not the case, we would have our Constitutional Republic freedoms back.
Well great, but that's not what I asked. I didn't ask if you would vote for him.
I'm trying to sort out how you distinguish between the diabolical "Commies" who push the jabs, and the other "good guys" who push the jabs.
A lot of people are pushing the jabs, ignoring the evidence of their harm and uselessness.
And a lot of people are blaming: China and the CCP, or Israel and Zionists, or Democrats, or....some chick was blaming the freemasons the other day, LOL.
Meanwhile, WEF is sitting there waving at us, shouting, "I'm over here! Me! I....can you see me?"
Hey wise guy (or gal, or they/them). Back off. You don't know me, and you don't know Trump. You probably don't know yourself either, but I digress.... here you go- I HATE ANYTHING/ANYONE THAT TELLS ME WHAT I MUST DO WHEN ITS SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO DO/DONT LIKE/ DON'T AGREE WITH, Ok? How's that? Makes me see red. I am HIGHLY ANNOYED if someone strongly suggests I should do something I don't like/agree with etc, but I don't hate it/ them. I DO hate it when they say I MUST do that thing I don't want to do. Trump's stance annoys and bothers me, but Biden & Co have pushed me into the hate it zone. GOT IT??
Hey, you brought up a theory on being intimidated by Communists as a metric for Clot Shot Apology, and I pursued its parameters to better understand your world view.
It's fascinating to me to witness how bright you think you are and how bereft of self-awareness you are. Not a good combo. This comment is rife with assumptions...not a good start, but you do you.
There are LOTS of smart people who don't understand what is really going on with these mRNA shots. LOTS. There are some evil people who DO understand it - Fauci for one- and they still push it. But most of the people pushing the shots don't understand what they are doing. Trump is actually smart on a lot of subjects but I guarantee he couldn't explain how these shots work if his life depended on it.
It isn't fluff for Trump. Just an evaluation of how I see it. Is Trump reading tons of substacks explaining the vaccine failures? I sincerely doubt it. And this is one of the only places where you can find the information. Every other major internet site censors information about vaccine failure. Did Trump watch Ron Johnson's hearing the other day? All 5 hours of it? I doubt it. Trump isn't the President any longer and he still has a billion dollar business. And he is 75 years old. 75. Most people at that age don't have the capacity to learn something entirely new. I don't even see the value in talking about Trump and vaccines at this point. If Trump decides to run for President in 2024 then his opinion might matter but by that point, I suspect everyone will know just how badly these shots have failed.
I sit in a room filled with ppl I once respected, and they have zero idea of most of what we all here can debate, Even medical professionals…mind you. It’s shocking but somewhat understandable because the rule makers have most ppl scrambling around trying to make it. I left my business, and have been home learning, reading and investigating this global cabal nightmare.
My husband needs to work, he comes home and I say “ do you want me to share the new nightmare I learned today…he says “ please don’t…”. We all can only take so much …Trump even needs a break. Alex last night on Tucker looked so upset, I felt sick to my stomach for him. Each of us needs to do our part…never just one person …we…the people 🇺🇸
Trump is part of the reason we are in this vaccine mess! He let the drug companies skip all the checks and balances necessary for safely rolling out a vaccine. I think if proper protocol was followed mRNA vaccines never would have been approved
No, it was foresight. Vaccine approval processes that work were known and purposely abrogated. Now we (society) is paying the price of known and ignored risks.
Sounds like you’ve got a case of TDS that needs treatment. Trump says people should have the choice. If they want it, fine. If they don’t, fine. Elderly people in assisted living facilities may want the shot. It may help keep them out of the hospital. They certainly aren’t having children and passing down corrupted genetic material to their offspring.
We all are. My aunt had a heart attack after getting the booster, meanwhile I’m afraid to engage anyone in debates on third & fourth dose safety & effectiveness. The zeitgeist is too strong 🤷🏻♂️
Alex gives her accolades for being a fence squatting centrist and she shoves it up his butt. Another fake phony fraud just interested in her precious job!
Sort of like Biden complaining that he never said you would BE George Wallace if you voted against his election bill, only that you would be on the SIDE of George Wallace. Who, by the way, was a prominent Democrat.
Monica has been straddling the line when it is convenient. She "scares" me more than say someone like Hotez - she will one minute speak of Natural Immunity then she will cave in and be all for the vaccines and boosters work! She will ignore the pain and suffering caused to others. I think there are times when her conscience is telling her - that she MAY end up on the wrong side of history and then she gets afraid and jolted back into toeing the line because she is afraid of standing up against the propaganda.
I think it is sad - I am sure some really nice people who thought they were doing somewhat the right thing had a rude awakening during Nuremberg.
That's not quite the saying. The saying is, "He doesn't know whether to run with the fox or hunt with hounds." Or more simply, "That guy wants to run with the fix and hunt with the hounds."
The phrase as I used it, is used in England. I have even said/wrote "trying to run with the fox and the hounds" in legal proceedings in the High Court in London, when accusing people of trying to adopt conflicting positions when it suits them. It means pretty much the same as what you say. Variations on a theme.
Love your answer to Gandhi! I was just fantasizing letting the American people see a debate between Fauci and McCullough so they can make up their own minds with no censorship.
Malone is not perfect. He is also problematic at times. I think it is silly to "attack" Berenson because he may not be full on a Malone fan. See we need to be honest and hold each other accountable. We also need to question. If you solely support every single word coming out of anyone's mouth - you are really no better than the other side.
Whatever you think of Malone and however accurate your opinion may be, Berenson's cheap shot out of the blue was a non value added exercise. In this fight, avoiding non value added activities is crucial.
Watching Alex throw down the gauntlet is thrilling. Comparable to what MMA fans must experience when their chosen fighter strolls out to the octogan cage (or whatever it's called). Go, Alex!!!
I am sick of doctors who have access to statistics that show how freaking dangerous these vaccines are being wishy washy about them. My God, get a spine. These are peoples lives you’re playing with. I think they are afraid the truth will expose what cowards they are.
They see what's happening but are terrified to lose their licenses so they refuse to save a life with medical exemptions, instead saving their careers and licenses.
I am only familiar with her name, but that said, sounds like the Dr. protests too much. If I were a betting girl, and I am, I would guess she doesn’t want to be associated with your terse warning on Tucker last night. I bet it is blowing up the Pfizer propaganda and payroll.
The pro-vaccine positioners are so far dug in they can't retract themselves very easy at this point. Sadly, the only thing that is going to change the flow is the inevitable vaccine injuries. People have loaded up the spike proteins and have unthinkingly placed their immune systems on hyper-alert three times in less than a year. We are still very early in this ordeal.
Has Monica Gandhi ever spoken against people being forced to take vaccines? Has she spoken up for bodily autonomy and informed consent? As far as I remember, she was a spreader of misinformation like, “covid vaccines prevent transmission.”
The public health people, the bureaucrats, journalists, they are terrified of being associated with you. Those people call you names, they criticize you for your comments about your family, they call you a conspiracy theorist, a covid-truther... But you always post the source of all the data on which you base your analysis and conclusions. At this point, if you publish a newsletter agreeing with a NYT journalist, that person will most likely get fired. Any person who is not at their knees begging acceptance at the altar of Fauci is an evil person. I would love to see anyone to take you seriously and disprove your conclusions. But all the bluechecks do is to prove that you look at the data and you come to different conclusions than the public health bureaucracy. Since the public health bureaucracy is GOD, and they are always right, you disagreeing with them makes you wrong. The elite media has embraced groupthink as a core value. They figure that since they can't read a scientific paper and analyze it, they rely on the public health bureaucrats to give them the cliff's notes, and they publish it as the Gospel
It really saddens me how many cowards are in the medical field, perhaps some like Fauci and are just simply evil.
Robert Kennedy's book exposes Fauci, NIH, CDC, FDA and the rest of the alphabets that Bill Gates created. Their diabolical push of drugs and vaccines on the poor and Black communities are pure evil!!
We are no longer the country of the free and certainly not the brave.
It’s possible that her cadre of “externalities” came tumbling down on her—which is one reason why retirees* have a special responsibility to speak up and question authority. It may be too much to ask someone, raising children or merely being the one financially responsible for others—to risk job and/or their professional future. Young people have already carried more than their share to protect older citizens. Maybe it’s time for older Americans to take some risk, and carry this fight. Finally, I never want those of us challenging the new world order to treat dissenting views in the same manner as we were treated by the Fauci Devotees, and his MSNBC, CNN, NYT (to name a few) disciplines. *At least for now, pensions are considered a property right—although how long they remain may be open for debate.
I have $50 that says you will receive radio silence. Poor lady, caught between truth and consequences. It is mildly sad that in Current Year, if she says what she probably knows, the Left will grind her into paste. That fact, she absolutely knows.
You're a journalist in the true sense of the word. Reporting who said what, when and where, and what happened as a result. Objective and straightforward. Allowing the person who said what they said to issue a clarification or comment. Thanks.
Did you happen to notice that Saager Enjeti of Breaking Points was happily crying that "the *vaccines turned Omicron into a cold"?
This is like the 37th goalpost move to find some virtue with these shitty exp. drugs.
Note that this was on a video taking The View to task for COVID fascism, but even the conscientious objectors/faux rebels cannot get real about these injections.
I want to be accurate and fair - I am happy to give her a chance to comment and explain the post. If she meant to encourage people to be boosted with mRNA vaccines, then I misunderstood, and I want to correct the record, which is why I am asking explicitly. But "inaccurate" all by itself is like "taken out of context" - it is meaningless, a non-denial denial.
Why are you able to strive to be accurate and fair with this person but not Dr. Malone. I feel it's because you know you're right in this case but feel shame with the other.
She's scared, but if she's gonna take a stand she had better push back on the right people here. And good on you Alex, we can't continue to award "weasel-ism", the modern practice of mincing your own words in an attempt to curate your own image along politically correct guidelines. That's exactly what makes the political correctness and other social pressures so strong--the self-censorship.
I remember reading long ago in one of my psych classes a book (by someone named Bim, as I recall) that actions dictate attitudes, not vice-versa. It was an eye opening idea. In this context, you have millions of people who took the jab (completely voluntarily or otherwise) and it will be hard for them to accept the possibility that it was a mistake.
Alex, you a real JOURNALIST! So refreshing to see one in action! Not one of the MSM "reporters" would have posted this addendum. Thank you! That's why I'm a paid subcriber!
Hold your ground, Alex! Just listened to 40 minutes of the Senate testimony of qualified medical professionals who have been punished, fired, stripped of their privileges due to saving patients' lives using so-called "unapproved treatments" for Covid-19. Unfortunately, she is probably worried that this will be her fate! Dear God help us...
What a game …ugh I hear you…UNBELIEVABLE GAME, UGH
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She's on thin ice - a cursory review of her historical Twitter posts tells me she is more problem than solution.
"VERY SAFE VACCINES"? In all capitals no less?
Posted just today?
(I believe that is what I am seeing, I do not frequent Twitter - I just quick visited her feed).
Any medical professional who continues to extol the safety of these vaccines cannot be taken seriously. Do none of the "signals" matter at all?
Even if she were trying to crawl out from under her historical promotion of the mRNA vaccines - that she contacted you asking you to strike her post says all we need to know.
Thank you for your work, Alex. Your segment on Tucker last night was compelling--we could see the conviction in your face and hear it in your words. Tucker's face said it all as he listened to you.
Her career and future grant approvals definitely don't depend on Tony's good will, and her strict adherence to the approved NIAID narrative. As defined by America's Doctor, Anthony Fauci.
And in fact, she would literally move heaven and earth to avoid any hints of causing "vaccine hesitancy."
I'd love you to do analysis on the non mRNA vaccines like Novavax and Covaxin. It's available in Indonesia and their cases went totally away - until just the last week or so when they're starting to go up again, though a fraction of what they were. I'm wondering - "do they work" or did they have a happy vaccine valley too? They're the only type of vax I'd consider - at this point, I don't feel like I need one at all, but if that changes, I'd consider it.
The place is not insane - Alex provides detailed analysis that's helpful.
I've been following Novavax for over a year, and so far it does not have the side effect profile of the mRNA disasters - they don't seem to be clot shots or trigger headaches, etc. The reason I did not get the mRNA ones is that I wanted to know:
1. Do they work?
2. If they do work, do they last?
3. What are the side effects?
So, I didn't, and I'm glad I didn't.
On #1, the mRNA worked temporarily for Delta and the original variant, but clearly are useless against Omicron.
On #2, that's a major failure.
On #3, that's a major failure though underreported.
On Novavax, #3 looked good in testing, but we'll have to see. On #1, jury is still out - same for #2.
If the answer eventually gets answered to the Yes on all three, I'd be open to getting it IF I felt like I needed it. If I don't - even if I felt like it was safe/effective, I won't. And, I'm inclined not to get any vax until all mandates are repealed, as my conscience strongly objects to any mandate and segregation of society based on vax status.
No vaccine should be released without years of testing! None of the current Jabs would make it through just based on the side effects and deaths. Sorry but over looking valid testing is INSANE!
You've made your point - and I don't even disagree with it. One reason I like the non mRNA ones is that they haven't been as fast to distribution as the mRNA, giving time for folks to see the side effects on those in the initial testing. We'll see how it goes in the countries that have approved it - note my original comment about Indonesia.
What is Indonesia's normal testing timeframe for Vaccines? Have they released it under something similar to EUA? Regardless the people that are being Jabbed are the Test.
And also not fully tested which takes years. This Stack has gone off its rocker. My guess is none of these Jabs would make it through normal Vaccine testing.
I think most people who jumped on the bandwagon originally and got the jab thought this was like a traditional vaccine. Thank God my nurse wife quickly explained what mRNA was - an experimental gene therapy and you're the experiment. If a traditional actual vaccine is FULLY approved as safe and effective I'll be first in line.
I will consider it when Phase 3 completes for ALL of these shots. Does anyone ever ponder why after as much time as Pfizer, even Moderna can't get an "approval" for their shots?
They would never make it through normal Vaccine testing. The side effects and deaths would easily do them in. The only way would be via Fed corruption.
She's petrified of the Communist left aka medical profession
May I pick your brain?
Does that mean that Trump is also petrified or complicit with the "Commies"?
He's still out there pitching the clot shots and the boosters.
So either, Trump is a commie, too,
OR...
Trump is a dumbshit.
Trump is definitely off-base on this but at the time Covid hit he surrounded himself with people like Fauci to develop the mRNA vaccinations the difference with Trump is he acknowledges personal freedom and while he advocates that you should have one because he had one he has never ever even implied that people should be forced to have a medical procedure against their will . Most freethinking Americans understand that people will disagree with them but they also expect that those disagreements will not be forced upon them
Art of War: Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.
Remember, Fauci not only tortured pups (and now monkeys?) but also the baby humans with his HIV experimentations and mass graves.
Personally I don't think your "average man on the street" citizen ever bothered to look deeply into his history. It's not easy to do if the extent of one's research skills extend no further than google or yahoo. I remember about Feb. of 2020 having a discussion about this "new virus thing" spreading, and my dinner companions immediately started expressing how with someone like Dr. Fauci in charge, it was nothing to worry about. I did a kind of recoil, being very familiar with all his horrifying decisions concerning HIV, and having been reading for quite some time about gain of function research and his involvement. I will never forget the puzzled looks on their faces .... "whatttttt ? what are you talking about ? It was so obvious I was the only one in that group aware of it. No one had ever heard of "gain of function" research, and it was obvious all they knew of him was from the very sudden onset of a P.R. campaign to make him a "legend", someone everyone everyone seemed to know, like some kind of entertainer or sports star. Thought that odd also, for one obscure researcher no one had previous heard of !
Yes - the madness is real among good, well-meaning people.
A good friend lost his dad at the beginning. Denied HCQ and early treatment. Both built a manufacturing establishment with many private and govt. contracts.
Son recently told me he “trusts the govt” which was shocking in light of all the corruption and scandals.
For some it may just be too painful to see what’s happening and admit to the sheer misanthropy.
Thanks for sharing.
Keep on exposing that killer fraud Fauci
My own background is in psychology, so of course my personal opinions are going to be colored by my formal education ! However, I think you "hit the old nail" right on the head when you said you "suspect" the real culprit is the PAIN (pride) an individual experiences when one realizes (to use an old saying from my GRANDFATHER) one had been"bamboozled". The sheer misanthropy indeed !
He sent my brother free AZT in the 90's. Of course, he didn't have to send it for long.
Fraudci
That's not from The Art of War, which is a respected work of tactical strategies. It's from a movie call The Godfather which is fiction. That's not how you run a govt.
Thank you. Sounds like you're familiar with both. I'm a fan of the former and never watched the latter.
Fortunately, I don't run a government, nor have any intentions.
Maybe you're familiar with paraphrasing, or that themes run through history and literature, something about Samuel Clemens.
Book 1
Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
Book 13
Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men. #
Having LOCAL SPIES means employing the services of the inhabitants of a district. #
Having INWARD SPIES, making use of officials of the enemy. #
Interesting you make that point - as someone else has noticed as well and written this article:
https://www.therobinreport.com/keep-your-friends-close-and-your-enemies-closer/
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The Godfather Strategy
First quoted by Sun Tzu, the Chinese general and author of The Art of War, an ancient treatise on military strategy, the statement was given more contemporary relevance in the 1974 film The Godfather Part II when spoken by Al Pacino’s character Michael Corleone.
That's funny, when I read that above I was thinking it was from Machiavelli's The Prince, but I think NJ the election advisor is the one who is correct, Sun Tzu is the author, rather it appeared in his Art of War, or in his other writings first, not sure. In the movie Godfather, my guess is it was an attempt to show one of the movie's sub themes..... that Micheal (called "college boy" by the older members) was well educated, had read Art of War, but certainly Mario Puzo, author of The Godfather, is not the author of those words.
There’s certainly a common thread in the thinking!
Voted for Trump--supported much of his policies but he should never be allowed anywhere near the WH again. I felt that way the moment he allowed this mass murderer (Fauci) anywhere near the podium. If I knew Fauci's background how come he didn't---or any of his closest advisors? If Trump was this poorly advised in 2020 theres no trusting him ever again.
Yeah that's working so well. SMH
He surrounded himself with Fauci and John Bolton.
"Drain the swamp!"
Fauci had been there for decades. What was Trump going to do, "Oh a pandemic might be headed our way, time to fire some top bureaucrats". He paused flights coming in from China and got lit up by Democrats. Yes he pushed to develop a vaccine but probably didn't whisper to Big Pharma "Make the vaccine a massive failure while I push for extreme mandates, then let's have Biden and Harris tell the world they don't trust it, then have this dimwitted pair fraudulently assume office and immediately begin demonizing people who believe 'my body, my choice', then let's make sure the Dems impeach me for a second time on my way out so that I'm further distracted from the southern border and Biden will cancel wall construction and let millions pour in without Covid protocols but mandate vaccines for our military before sending them off to guard the Ukrainian border... it's the PERFECT plan!"
Yelling about Trump right now is like yelling "Look over there, a parakeet!"
Oh, Trump did a lot more than that. First he strong armed the American auto industry, and others, into converting their factories into ventilator factories that he would ship all over the world to save the world! Brilliant, as we ended up killing thousands of people with over-ventilation and most of that stockpile of ventilators ended up doing nothing more than gathering dust in warehouses.
Then he turned to the most wonderful, miracle vaccines ever devised! He got into bed with Pfizer, Moderna and J&J and cleared the way for them to rush mRNA vaccines that had failed to pass clinical trials for the decade prior to suddenly all deliver 'safe and effective" ones within a month of each other. Miracle indeed! He watched and waived them on through as they destroyed their control groups, cut corners on their trials and ensured they received total indemnity from damages their miracles might cause. Along the way he smartly brought in Scott Atlas as an advisor and, as he always did, quickly threw him under the bus at the behest of the swamp, effectively crowning lord Fauci as king of public health until he either dies or is physically removed from office.
"Yelling at Trump," aka criticizing him about this makes perfect sense because he is responsible for ALL of it in his effort to look like a hero before the elections. He could have backed sanity and promoted sane people like Scott Atlas instead of burying him, but he didn't. He did everything he did to bring about this shitshow because Trump does not believe in the principles of limited government and personal responsibility. Instead he believes that the government is the answer to every problem.....as long as he's giving the commands or it's his commands that are being followed.
It's all the answer to Sage Hana's question. He's not a commie but he is a self absorbed dumbshit. And yeah, I voted for him twice anyway because the other dumshits he ran against were even worse.
You are not really good at remembering the real-time situation of 2020. Your version of events relies solely on hindsight. Can you pick a leader that got every or any decision correct?
Now this is a person that shoots from the hip! Kudos.
Agree, just wish he would zip his lips about WarpSpeed... nothing was ‘Speedy’, just ‘Warped.’
I'm not yelling about Trump. I asked the No Communism Guy to explain who were the diabolical Commies and who were the (dumbshit) Good Guys.
The thread exploded. The people yelling are the kids with Superhero costumes on. Their identity is wrapped up in Operation Warp Speed guy.
This is a major plus for the Oligarchs who can always divide us with team jerseys.
Ok sorry, I might've read your comment wrong... also a little hair trigger cuz I have two young daughters getting buffeted by mandate calls, and no matter one's political affiliation, I think honest thinkers might admit it's hard to envision Trump pushing mandates, or at the very least, on our amazing soldiers.
You are wrong and waaayyyy too assuming, and you know what happens when you assume....
Right. Fauci is on film telling us kids could get aids living in the same house with someone in the 80s. He's been a puppet forever. He flip flops constantly as he follows the script. But yeah Trump doesn't know this. LOLOL.
DJT knows it.
Abe Lincoln and Andrew Jackson both wrestled with the old euro banking powers. Abe Lincoln got a bullet. RIP.
AJ had several attempts but survived.
JFK knew it. He challenged it and got blown to bits. RIP.
Exactly. Its all gone. They'll murder you and yours instantly if you go.against what's coming.he has a good kush life, kids and grandkids. He's not thrwing it away for likely something he cannot change.
Whoa
... I remember my dad getting really scared about the early 1980s AIDS thing, having three teenage daughters... knowing what we know now, if i could go back in time and let my dad know what a scumbag fauci is and not to worry...
Fauci had the nation over a barrel.
That said, HIV is no joke. Met several people who had to live with it.
College roommate was promiscuous and had a big scare in the early 1990s.
Now lifespan is similar but the onset of chronic illness with HIV is many years sooner.
Another fauci legacy. What a crook
He doesn't "follow the script." He writes it, usually according to his own pecuniary and power interests.
You hit the nail on the head….. and of course the scarf queen- i will say in his defense he is not a creature of Washington- when there is a fire raging - he doesn’t look to see if the water is in a Blue bucket or a Red bucket….. i think that has changed pretty significantly but not totally- here in Nashville he just endorsed a candidate for rep who worked on the Jeb Bush Campaign….. she is nice but there is a fiery pro trump guy who has a high profile in our area and is very popular….. so unfortunately - he still has weak knee’d establishment types in his inner circle…….
As Churchill said “he is the worst candidate, except for all the rest”!!
Right. He has a weakness for some of the people who were in his orbit. He needs to stay out of some races until he thoroughly vets the candidate.
In Ohio we have a good replacement for Gonzalez (RINO, Impeachment voter), but Trump is supporting someone who worked in WH, though the guy is not well connected to our area.
Trump will weaken his influence if he readily endorses people.
Yep - Totally on point. So what's the solution? A completely new governmental structure? No one seems immune from compromise. Sadly I see my choice to come down to the best worst option.
Look for "Road to Serfdom" on Twatter.
Some good ideas there. Think globally, act locally.
Get involved even at the school board and town hall level. Call and write your pols. Let them know who you are. Be polite and vocal.
Know your sheriff.
B O O M !
And another difference is...Trump is a businessman, not a medical Dr. or Medical scientist unlike this lady doctor. The whole reason of having NIH, etc. is to serve / provide the President (and probably "We the People") the information he / she needs to make a decision. Just like those Generals, Economists and Councils who exist to advise Presidents.
But he's making it about CHOICE. In my mind, that is the BIGGEST and most important difference. The vaccine is probably right for "some" people; but don't force anyone to ever get something they don't want.
I would say it's not right for anyone at this point. And he called other politicians "cowards" for not declaring they got a dangerous "booster". Trump may be playing the fence, but he needs to jump off and pick a side.
The reality is that there has really not been enough research to determine any of that. Maybe it did help elderly people in confined spaces like nursing homes? I want time for more honest, detailed studies. BUT GIVE ME A CHOICE.
Fair argument, but without evidence, we should be assuming it is ineffective....not the other way around. The burden of proof was never met, and we've just accepted, without evidence, that it has helped anyone.
I hear you - but I wouldn't want to deny it to someone if it could help them. Obvi the science has changed; but my feeling about it has not changed and I'll do everything to NOT get it. I'm afraid they'll take away our rights to vote if we don't get it :o(
He's not a dipshit. Operation Warp Speed happened under him. He will never go against the brand -- i.e., why he boasts so vociferously about the vax & boosters. But he IS quieting down about that (see Florence, AZ). Egomaniac? Sure. Dipshit? No. We're on the brink of war with Russia to defend Ukraine's sovereignty which is an absolute JOKE because Biden certainly doesn't believe in our sovereignty. But, yeah. Okay.
Didn’t Biden’s son have dealings in Ukraine???
Sure did.
The Ukrainians do NOT want us to defend their sovereignty, we screwed up not fulfilling our Budapest Memorandum promises in 2014 under Obama.
The Ukrainians want the weapons, especially anti-aircraft, they will and CAN take care of the invaders on their own .... the Iron Dome we helped Israel with would have been nice as well.
I know they don't; it's a pretext. And boy what a pretext!
Trump is not a medical doctor whose license is in jeopardy from the leftist medical board in California. Not a good comparison.
No, he's just the guy who officially approved gain of function again for Fauci, kept him on and did everything he wanted, rushed through the toxic clot shots, and is still out there pushing them.
Totally innocent. LOL.
He did not approve it again according to the DARPA papers. Fauci went around the order not to proceed and provided support through the Eco Alliance group with the help of Peter Dazak and Ralph Barack.
So Fauci punked him? Fauci punked him, right?
These people are as bad as CNN watching liberals. It's a waste of time Hana.
If you're going to make specious arguments, have some facts to back them up. Glen is absolutely right. You see no irony that you lead with TDS while trying to enlighten us all. Lord help us. Hard pass.
I don't think Trump was very good at weeding out swamp to help him run his Presidency. He wants (craves?) the adoration of his fans and to be the "savior" of the American people. That is his biggest fault. I think there were a lot of "spies" (not sure of the correct word here) in Trump's time and Fauci was def one of them. If by punked, you mean, tricked then yes....I do think Fauci tricked him. Sometimes, Trump can't get out of his own way and because he had little to no political experience, had to rely on folks that had been in office for a long time. Four years is not a lot of time to expose the Deep State that has been in play for awhile.
Read some books on this. Josh Rogin from Wash Post to start and a host of others. He did not officially approve gain of function again. A low level bureaucrat did. Pres. Obama had Fauci cease and desist this bullcrap and then when Trump assumed office, a bureaucrat re-upped on this monstrousity.
Where does the buck stop again?
Oh, I agree it stops with whoever is President. Never said otherwise. But just raw facts about who approved what, you're being intentionally obtuse. But, hey, that's your right.
I’m not sure that’s not a bunch of bull crap. Since when do we trust Obama and Fauci TOGETHER.
No fan either. I'm sure it was done for damage control, not because he's humanitarian of the year.
I was commenting on Sage Hana drawing parallels between Trump's outspoken support of vaccines. There was no comparison whatsoever.
Pitching, but not MANDATING. Big difference.
I agree...that's why I pay to read the research that Alex makes available to us all. With more information we do what we think is best for us.
Same
Trump is such a grandiose narcissist that he *wants* the vaccine to be the healer of all so that *he* can take the credit in the end. Also, all politicians are two sides of the same coin and he is certainly getting financial gains from the vaccine being sold. He's the one who gave Fauci the big microphone and for that he can never be trusted.
I think he wants to take credit for the vaccine - and that has made him blind about this issue - but his love for America is bigger than his shortcomings.
So you seem quasi reasonable unlike many of the superhero stans on this thread.
Love for America is a totally different issue.
I love America, too, but that doesn't mean I want people to get in a Ford Pinto with an exploding gas tank once the evidence emerges that it is defective.
It's a non-sequitur.
You need a level of savvy, esp. when you are pushing exp. gene therapy that is oh by the way, KILLING PEOPLE.
So if someone is wrong about the safety of a Ford pinto - that means they can’t love America?
I think you’re a bit rabid towards trump. Is it the locker room talk? You’d rather a polished and lying dotard right?
Jeremy. You have two different issues.
1. Loving America.
2. Leading America through COVID.
This whole thread launched with No Communism Here pointing to being intimidated by "commies" as Gandhi's motivation.
So I asked him for Trump's motivation for pitching the exp. jabs.
The rest of this is like trying to speak rationally to a cult.
Exactly
sage is a good name for you.
Sage Hana - I do think personal responsibility plays a big role here. Are you saying that we are mindless rats running around a hamster wheel, blindly following Trump? Trump would not have mandated the vax but he would love to take credit for it. His perspective does not make me run out and get the vax (Ford Pinto) though. I have a brain and it's up to me to find the info and then make my own decisions (not blindly follow). If folks insist of buying that Ford Pinto - then that is their choice, regardless of who is pushing it. I have a way bigger issue with Biden/Harris saying they would NOT get a vax developed under Trump and then turnaround and MANDATE it? This ..... is NOT ok.
^This
That's probably true
Giggle…they’ve spent 6 years attempting to destroy President Trump BECAUSE he wouldn’t play nice with the corrupt Ruling Intelligence State…
It’s not healthy to dwell in President Trump so much…
I'm sorry, was this post about trump? I missed that. Anyhoo... His policies delighted me until the jab. Now...bleh
Play devil's advocate:
Whatever he says, the left will do the opposite. So he pushes the jab... most of his base has made up their mind to take or not take. The message isn't for them.
No, his message is to the never-Trumpers to keep them on edge, on their heels constantly.
I was a never-Trumper... never liked him since the 1980s. Still, he didn't get to be a billionaire ($4 billion?) by being stupid. He also let that collapse to $2.5 billion during his presidency.
It's hard to read someone's mind but we can see their actions:
- no new wars
- Pax Romana with North Korea
- thundering economy
- low gas
Granted - I don't like some of his EPA / environment moves, or his rangy speech, but I do get the feeling that he became a patriot that wanted to protect the US and expose the rot.
His genuine care for this country is evident in every interaction with the public and in his acts as president. I don't believe he was compliant with the NWO people in the vaccine roll-out. He was simply surrounded by bad advisors.
See, this is my point. Which will fall on deaf ears from the hero worship crowd.
(FWIW, Trumpers aren't much different than AOC stans, who I have also tried to enlighten!)
Whichever tribe you select, you get Fauci, and you get Vaccine Bullshit Magic being shoved your throat.
Totally agree that fanboism is an issue.
Re-read the Art of War https://suntzusaid.com (Thank me later)
Have been in too many scuffles ... I'm lucky to be alive.
Never underestimate yourself or your foes.
If you think this is hero worship then you've got the wrong person.
I worship God alone and ask for help and protection from His saints, angels, people of good will and those who've gone before us.
The shots are about tyranny. This was never about a virus.
This was about control, denying early care and then giving a horrible standard of care after admissions to the ERs.
This is about a loss of bodily autonomy and movement passports.
DJT did push for Warp Speed but never threatened movement passports or loss of employment or schooling for those who refused to be injected with experimental mRNA gene therapies.
The World Economic Forum clan (think: Crenshaw, Adern, et al.) is stridently pushing that with onerous deprivation of liberties. Maxwell, Epstein and even Trump touched that crowd. Maxwell and Epstein were thrown under the bus. Trump hopefully distanced himself.
Again, I was a never Trumper who viewed him as an egomaniac only helping Trump. Then I watched him in office and saw his successes (and failures), and especially see the darkness and division of the Obama years, succeeded by the pedophile JOBama year and there seems that there was a lot of redemption for him in that time.
He's human, so am I. Aren't you?
There is a lot here, and I appreciate the willingness to engage on substance. We are def. simpatico on the real issues going down.
I'm getting flooded with angry Trumpers, but I def. view you as one of the more reasonable sober types on this thread.
Come on tell us that you didn't vote for 0bama/Biden/Harris. Come on tell all. You're proof that TDS is uncurable.
YES....what is undeniable is the light shone on the Deep State. So true about it never being about the virus and about tyranny and control.
NJ Election Advisor is hardly making the case for hero worship, but ok...Please keep on keepin' on with trying to enlighten us. We're desperate!
He's not done! I'm already enlightened and awake. One must research before stating fiction as fact.
Trump is terrible on this issue. I will give him a small bit of credit that he isn't pro-mandate. But we can't spin his enthusiasm for "OWS." It's his baby and he is very defensive about it. I notice he has been more subdued about the matter lately, though.
This is a reasonable reality based take.
Enjoying the hero worship stans losing their minds, though.
See, here's my take:
We humans have no other reasonable place to go, the moon or Mars aren't reasonable places. So we have to make Earth work, which includes picking up the pieces of our brothers and sisters who, as you pointed out, going to lose their minds (if they haven't already lost them).
United we stand, divided we fall.... and there's too much division.
Appreciate that perspective! Very much.
Personally, I think you raise several good points in this thread. I have said multiple times that the last 2 years have been enlightening. I've been forced to re-evaluate many of my political instincts and to look anew at political figures. I mean, I would still vote for Trump over Biden - that's not the issue for me - but I would also have to admit that Trump carries a lot of baggage. I think he was the right guy in 2016, but he may no longer be the "right guy." Though he had some idea about the corruption in DC, the depth and breath of it was clearly not appreciated. Not by Trump, not by anyone, really.
The field is super-thin. Maybe DeSantis but hey, I don't trust many pols.
What sort of ego must one have to be president of the US, with the largest and most dangerous (old school) military in the world?
It may be moot as it seems the field of warfare has changed from nukes to biological agents (real WMDs) and cyber destruction.
BIO WARFARE!
Unfortunately, it's not just DC. Every hospital and clinic in the US is corrupted by CMS, and those big bureaucracies in turn corrupt 95-99% of doctors.
Would like to know what YOU would have done better in 2020 if you were President?
It's not his initial actions with which I take issue, it's his apparent inability to learn from experience and adjust when needed. I say that as a two time Trump voter. But after the last two years, he has to be wiser and more agile and admit when he made a mistake. The evidence of both the safety and efficacy of these shots is undeniable. The least he could do now is to not go out on tours with Bill "no spin" O'Reilly.
One possibility: It's theater
way off base. way off topic. Its as if you want to change the discussion as to how much you hate trump. Good for you.
Omg. She doesn't hate Trump persay. All you people who see the world only black and white and can't spell chess are going to be the death of us.
I am rolling over this response.
Not to poke, but your comment is quite …back and white. Especially the “ you ppl”. Take a beat…and perhaps a breath …we are not enemies, and we are not perfect…we are all trying our best, no one is the death of us…that’s unfair, low blow…find grace and space to understand that we all are truly trying.
Another liberal not liberal? I'll communicate how I communicate I don't know why you sensitive types need to tell others how they should talk. You think your comment will do what? MAke me chamge how I see it? It's a curse to be ahead of the curve believe me.maybe one day you'll know. Maybe not. PS. Not to poke.. Then poking. You're my favorite kind of zen. LOL
Make sure you go get that booster, Nate.
Daddy wants you to. Wouldn't want to "play into their hands", would you?
That's how "they" win! Own the libs and get the jab, homie!
“We saved tens of millions worldwide by creating the vaccine.”
“It would have been like the Spanish flu without it. … We should take credit for it, and you play right into their hands” when you question the vaccine’s value, he added.
I fell out of my chair on that one! I don't buy into any of that nonsense.
Trump follows the advice of fauci. He’s wrong about this one but generally has more common sense than your typical pseudo liberal
Okay, sure. Agreed.
Then we have another dilemma, do we not?
Mr. "Drain the Swamp" and "Art of the Deal" got absolutely played by Swampy Fauci.
This leads back to the "Trump is a Dumbshit" answer on Dilemma #1.
It’s funny because Americans are still very influenced by the puritans. One is either 100% good or bad right? That’s childish. Trump is awesome but he’s not perfect and he’s wrong about this one. It’s called being human.
EXACTLY. GOD IT'S NICE TO KNOW SOME.PEOPLE ARENT TOTALLY BAMBOOLSED. THESE PEOPLE CANT SPELL THE WORD CHESS. LET ALONE UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT.
But your “ dipshit” as you say; was far better for our world than the clown now!
Well, then. Guess every leftist, liberal and socialist in the country is also a "Dumbshit" (your words--not mine) because they have enthroned him as their god. All of them are being "absolutely played" (your words--not mine) every single day by the pseudo-scientist Fauci. If that were not the case, we would have our Constitutional Republic freedoms back.
If you enthrone Fauci as your god, no matter what your political persuasion then in my view, you are most definitely a dipshit.
This false either/or paradigm seem difficult for many to escape, Glen.
Its a script. They're all driving to the same place whilst people like you placate him and likely unknowingly are going the same way. IMHO.
Despite the jab flaw, I would gladly vote for him again. DeSantis probably wouldn't run against him, I trust no one anymore... sigh...
Well great, but that's not what I asked. I didn't ask if you would vote for him.
I'm trying to sort out how you distinguish between the diabolical "Commies" who push the jabs, and the other "good guys" who push the jabs.
A lot of people are pushing the jabs, ignoring the evidence of their harm and uselessness.
And a lot of people are blaming: China and the CCP, or Israel and Zionists, or Democrats, or....some chick was blaming the freemasons the other day, LOL.
Meanwhile, WEF is sitting there waving at us, shouting, "I'm over here! Me! I....can you see me?"
Hey wise guy (or gal, or they/them). Back off. You don't know me, and you don't know Trump. You probably don't know yourself either, but I digress.... here you go- I HATE ANYTHING/ANYONE THAT TELLS ME WHAT I MUST DO WHEN ITS SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO DO/DONT LIKE/ DON'T AGREE WITH, Ok? How's that? Makes me see red. I am HIGHLY ANNOYED if someone strongly suggests I should do something I don't like/agree with etc, but I don't hate it/ them. I DO hate it when they say I MUST do that thing I don't want to do. Trump's stance annoys and bothers me, but Biden & Co have pushed me into the hate it zone. GOT IT??
Hey, you brought up a theory on being intimidated by Communists as a metric for Clot Shot Apology, and I pursued its parameters to better understand your world view.
I'll back off, sure. Sorry to have upset you.
You didn't upset me, but you were aggressive, so right back atcha
Sage, the Commie Rot do not push....they mandate!
It's fascinating to me to witness how bright you think you are and how bereft of self-awareness you are. Not a good combo. This comment is rife with assumptions...not a good start, but you do you.
Same to all you said. No pretty choices, that's for sure.
Hey light bulb, what the hell does your post have to do with Alex's post? Absolutely nothing.
There are LOTS of smart people who don't understand what is really going on with these mRNA shots. LOTS. There are some evil people who DO understand it - Fauci for one- and they still push it. But most of the people pushing the shots don't understand what they are doing. Trump is actually smart on a lot of subjects but I guarantee he couldn't explain how these shots work if his life depended on it.
More fluff for Trump. He can't have an idea but most of us here on this board do?
It isn't fluff for Trump. Just an evaluation of how I see it. Is Trump reading tons of substacks explaining the vaccine failures? I sincerely doubt it. And this is one of the only places where you can find the information. Every other major internet site censors information about vaccine failure. Did Trump watch Ron Johnson's hearing the other day? All 5 hours of it? I doubt it. Trump isn't the President any longer and he still has a billion dollar business. And he is 75 years old. 75. Most people at that age don't have the capacity to learn something entirely new. I don't even see the value in talking about Trump and vaccines at this point. If Trump decides to run for President in 2024 then his opinion might matter but by that point, I suspect everyone will know just how badly these shots have failed.
I sit in a room filled with ppl I once respected, and they have zero idea of most of what we all here can debate, Even medical professionals…mind you. It’s shocking but somewhat understandable because the rule makers have most ppl scrambling around trying to make it. I left my business, and have been home learning, reading and investigating this global cabal nightmare.
My husband needs to work, he comes home and I say “ do you want me to share the new nightmare I learned today…he says “ please don’t…”. We all can only take so much …Trump even needs a break. Alex last night on Tucker looked so upset, I felt sick to my stomach for him. Each of us needs to do our part…never just one person …we…the people 🇺🇸
Well written
Trump is part of the reason we are in this vaccine mess! He let the drug companies skip all the checks and balances necessary for safely rolling out a vaccine. I think if proper protocol was followed mRNA vaccines never would have been approved
Remember:
Emergency Use Authorized
Nothing approved yet (Comirnaty has an approved application but is NOT available in the US)
It matters.
If the drug pushers can get the jabs on the childhood list of mandated jabs it's lights out.
The jab pushers of Pig Pharma will then have no legal liabilities for their jabs.
Hindsight.
No, it was foresight. Vaccine approval processes that work were known and purposely abrogated. Now we (society) is paying the price of known and ignored risks.
Sounds like you’ve got a case of TDS that needs treatment. Trump says people should have the choice. If they want it, fine. If they don’t, fine. Elderly people in assisted living facilities may want the shot. It may help keep them out of the hospital. They certainly aren’t having children and passing down corrupted genetic material to their offspring.
It's no excuse any longer (IMO, never was) - Almost all humanity (myself included) seems to have become so lame (myself no longer... not for awhile).
We all are. My aunt had a heart attack after getting the booster, meanwhile I’m afraid to engage anyone in debates on third & fourth dose safety & effectiveness. The zeitgeist is too strong 🤷🏻♂️
She saw her job pass before her eyes...ooops!
And rightly so.
Saw this coming, which is GREAT. This is what real reporting looks like. If she wants to go on record, then she can.
It's no longer acceptable for people, ESPECIALLY doctors, to straddle the fence. This is about people's lives. It's time to pick a side.
Well said!
Alex gives her accolades for being a fence squatting centrist and she shoves it up his butt. Another fake phony fraud just interested in her precious job!
Now, now, you know using actual words of actual people is playing dirty :p
Excellent. Don't believe your eyes and ears, but rather what Big Brother explains to you what you saw and heard.
Govern us harder, Big Brother.
Clearly she was misquoted...or taken out of context. Or something. It wasn’t me!
Sort of like Biden complaining that he never said you would BE George Wallace if you voted against his election bill, only that you would be on the SIDE of George Wallace. Who, by the way, was a prominent Democrat.
If you don't vote... you ain't black
Clap you stupid B@$t@rd$
You know the thing
You dump $on of a B!tch
The list of moronic Brandon quotes is endless. He spews bile constantly and is never taken to task because he's a captured frontman for the swamp/ DS.
Love your comment
Monica has been straddling the line when it is convenient. She "scares" me more than say someone like Hotez - she will one minute speak of Natural Immunity then she will cave in and be all for the vaccines and boosters work! She will ignore the pain and suffering caused to others. I think there are times when her conscience is telling her - that she MAY end up on the wrong side of history and then she gets afraid and jolted back into toeing the line because she is afraid of standing up against the propaganda.
I think it is sad - I am sure some really nice people who thought they were doing somewhat the right thing had a rude awakening during Nuremberg.
Told you she was no centrist.
Ya, well, the jerkstore called. They're fresh out of you.
Good response Alex. Thank you!
She wants to play both sides always. Weak.
Correct. She cannot have it both ways. She must clarify.
There is an old saying in England that comes from traditional hunting: "you cannot run with the fox and the hounds".
That's a great saying!
That's not quite the saying. The saying is, "He doesn't know whether to run with the fox or hunt with hounds." Or more simply, "That guy wants to run with the fix and hunt with the hounds."
Get it right, damn it.
The phrase as I used it, is used in England. I have even said/wrote "trying to run with the fox and the hounds" in legal proceedings in the High Court in London, when accusing people of trying to adopt conflicting positions when it suits them. It means pretty much the same as what you say. Variations on a theme.
All sound good - thanks both for sharing.
Someone got to her, like all the others
The covidian panopticon
For the first time in years I get to see how journalism is supposed to work. Excellent!
Hold the line!! Great response. She’s running scared now. But words matter - even if she plays games and tried to change what she said it’s on record.
Love your answer to Gandhi! I was just fantasizing letting the American people see a debate between Fauci and McCullough so they can make up their own minds with no censorship.
You attack Dr. Malone and gave this Commie Dem props? She is total Loon out of the University of San Francisco.
Malone is not perfect. He is also problematic at times. I think it is silly to "attack" Berenson because he may not be full on a Malone fan. See we need to be honest and hold each other accountable. We also need to question. If you solely support every single word coming out of anyone's mouth - you are really no better than the other side.
Whatever you think of Malone and however accurate your opinion may be, Berenson's cheap shot out of the blue was a non value added exercise. In this fight, avoiding non value added activities is crucial.
I am not a super Dr. Malone fan but this Dr. is joke in comparison.
And I am not a super Dr. Malone fan but this Dr. is a Joke. Also a far Left conspiracy theorist. Yes most in Science today are!
Not USF. UCSF.
Doesn't matter. It's the area.
Our country is full of people fearful of the regimes backlash. Courage is in very short supply and it’s not because of supply chain.
Wow. Someone got to her quickly…BTW…you still wrong on Malone. You need to clean up that mess.
Watching Alex throw down the gauntlet is thrilling. Comparable to what MMA fans must experience when their chosen fighter strolls out to the octogan cage (or whatever it's called). Go, Alex!!!
I'm guessing the good Doctor accidentally drew some unwanted attention.
Perhaps she accidentally spoke a truth.
Good job Alex. Keep up the good fight.
We need facts, data, and the truth. You are one of the few that seem to be willing to stand up and report those things.
Thanks for asking her to clarify. I think she fears guilt by association.
I am sick of doctors who have access to statistics that show how freaking dangerous these vaccines are being wishy washy about them. My God, get a spine. These are peoples lives you’re playing with. I think they are afraid the truth will expose what cowards they are.
They see what's happening but are terrified to lose their licenses so they refuse to save a life with medical exemptions, instead saving their careers and licenses.
Hard to stand up.
i stopped folowing dr. gandhi bc she is too interested in being non controversial... waffles.
french company is finishing ph 3 on a depleted virus as well!
I am only familiar with her name, but that said, sounds like the Dr. protests too much. If I were a betting girl, and I am, I would guess she doesn’t want to be associated with your terse warning on Tucker last night. I bet it is blowing up the Pfizer propaganda and payroll.
The pro-vaccine positioners are so far dug in they can't retract themselves very easy at this point. Sadly, the only thing that is going to change the flow is the inevitable vaccine injuries. People have loaded up the spike proteins and have unthinkingly placed their immune systems on hyper-alert three times in less than a year. We are still very early in this ordeal.
Has Monica Gandhi ever spoken against people being forced to take vaccines? Has she spoken up for bodily autonomy and informed consent? As far as I remember, she was a spreader of misinformation like, “covid vaccines prevent transmission.”
The public health people, the bureaucrats, journalists, they are terrified of being associated with you. Those people call you names, they criticize you for your comments about your family, they call you a conspiracy theorist, a covid-truther... But you always post the source of all the data on which you base your analysis and conclusions. At this point, if you publish a newsletter agreeing with a NYT journalist, that person will most likely get fired. Any person who is not at their knees begging acceptance at the altar of Fauci is an evil person. I would love to see anyone to take you seriously and disprove your conclusions. But all the bluechecks do is to prove that you look at the data and you come to different conclusions than the public health bureaucracy. Since the public health bureaucracy is GOD, and they are always right, you disagreeing with them makes you wrong. The elite media has embraced groupthink as a core value. They figure that since they can't read a scientific paper and analyze it, they rely on the public health bureaucrats to give them the cliff's notes, and they publish it as the Gospel
Forcing the debate onto them. This is what we need.
My curiosity is how quickly she responded to the post…. Hmmmmm…..
I wonder, does that mean her (and others no doubt) are lurking on here?
It really saddens me how many cowards are in the medical field, perhaps some like Fauci and are just simply evil.
Robert Kennedy's book exposes Fauci, NIH, CDC, FDA and the rest of the alphabets that Bill Gates created. Their diabolical push of drugs and vaccines on the poor and Black communities are pure evil!!
We are no longer the country of the free and certainly not the brave.
It’s possible that her cadre of “externalities” came tumbling down on her—which is one reason why retirees* have a special responsibility to speak up and question authority. It may be too much to ask someone, raising children or merely being the one financially responsible for others—to risk job and/or their professional future. Young people have already carried more than their share to protect older citizens. Maybe it’s time for older Americans to take some risk, and carry this fight. Finally, I never want those of us challenging the new world order to treat dissenting views in the same manner as we were treated by the Fauci Devotees, and his MSNBC, CNN, NYT (to name a few) disciplines. *At least for now, pensions are considered a property right—although how long they remain may be open for debate.
I have $50 that says you will receive radio silence. Poor lady, caught between truth and consequences. It is mildly sad that in Current Year, if she says what she probably knows, the Left will grind her into paste. That fact, she absolutely knows.
Caught between truth and consequences !! Brilliant !!
"grind her into paste"... as in HORSE paste?? ;-)
Looks like I just lost $50. :/
You're a journalist in the true sense of the word. Reporting who said what, when and where, and what happened as a result. Objective and straightforward. Allowing the person who said what they said to issue a clarification or comment. Thanks.
You were entirely accurate. She just couldn't handle the blowback
Another worthless academic MD.
Alex, you did great and Travis and Buck.
Did you happen to notice that Saager Enjeti of Breaking Points was happily crying that "the *vaccines turned Omicron into a cold"?
This is like the 37th goalpost move to find some virtue with these shitty exp. drugs.
Note that this was on a video taking The View to task for COVID fascism, but even the conscientious objectors/faux rebels cannot get real about these injections.
*not vaccines
Does she claim you attributed words to her that were not, in fact her own?
Does she claim that you selected a partial quote that substantially misrepresents her core point?
If not, what grounds does she have to request that you delete the post?
I want to be accurate and fair - I am happy to give her a chance to comment and explain the post. If she meant to encourage people to be boosted with mRNA vaccines, then I misunderstood, and I want to correct the record, which is why I am asking explicitly. But "inaccurate" all by itself is like "taken out of context" - it is meaningless, a non-denial denial.
Why are you able to strive to be accurate and fair with this person but not Dr. Malone. I feel it's because you know you're right in this case but feel shame with the other.
She can't say what is inaccurate because we all know the real reason... that she is likely having her career threatened because of this.
She's scared, but if she's gonna take a stand she had better push back on the right people here. And good on you Alex, we can't continue to award "weasel-ism", the modern practice of mincing your own words in an attempt to curate your own image along politically correct guidelines. That's exactly what makes the political correctness and other social pressures so strong--the self-censorship.
Oh I'm sure she's still pushing MRNA. Her "Urgency of Normal" group and their plan for unmasking kids is aimed at 'highly vaccinated areas' .
This is my focus right now.
We have a mass formation that is so strong that people of all stripes are still in the bargaining phase with these injections.
They just cannot deal with what they are: Dangerous, utterly ineffective, and now negatively effective (harmful) exp. injections.
This is the ROOT lie. And all the other lies and policies spawned from this root.
This ROOT lie is tenacious. It will not die easily.
I remember reading long ago in one of my psych classes a book (by someone named Bim, as I recall) that actions dictate attitudes, not vice-versa. It was an eye opening idea. In this context, you have millions of people who took the jab (completely voluntarily or otherwise) and it will be hard for them to accept the possibility that it was a mistake.
Excellent find, rufus.
In self help world, they call this "fake it til you make it", or "act your way into new thinking".
It's also why fraternities and military haze.
Alex, you a real JOURNALIST! So refreshing to see one in action! Not one of the MSM "reporters" would have posted this addendum. Thank you! That's why I'm a paid subcriber!
*Subscriber.
This is an example of your finest work, Alex. Thank you.
Hold your ground, Alex! Just listened to 40 minutes of the Senate testimony of qualified medical professionals who have been punished, fired, stripped of their privileges due to saving patients' lives using so-called "unapproved treatments" for Covid-19. Unfortunately, she is probably worried that this will be her fate! Dear God help us...
She super scared she's going to get evicted from the elite club.
Could someone post some good news? I'm a Bills fan and seriously am suffering PTSD since Sunday. I am so depressed.
What a game …ugh I hear you…UNBELIEVABLE GAME, UGH
Good news, LETS SEE, we all have this moment 😇…we here are trying to move to Florida …Sun, fun and dancing 💃🏼 still exist …good friends, true love and …sunrises still matter ❤️Hope you have some of this 🇺🇸In your life…along with a nice drink, good book and there’s always chocolate 🍫
She's on thin ice - a cursory review of her historical Twitter posts tells me she is more problem than solution.
"VERY SAFE VACCINES"? In all capitals no less?
Posted just today?
(I believe that is what I am seeing, I do not frequent Twitter - I just quick visited her feed).
Any medical professional who continues to extol the safety of these vaccines cannot be taken seriously. Do none of the "signals" matter at all?
Even if she were trying to crawl out from under her historical promotion of the mRNA vaccines - that she contacted you asking you to strike her post says all we need to know.
Move on...
Thank you for your work, Alex. Your segment on Tucker last night was compelling--we could see the conviction in your face and hear it in your words. Tucker's face said it all as he listened to you.
Definitely a "centrist."
Definitely not a recipient of grants from America's Doctor, Anthony Fauci, via NIAID.
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/advisory-council-biographies
Her career and future grant approvals definitely don't depend on Tony's good will, and her strict adherence to the approved NIAID narrative. As defined by America's Doctor, Anthony Fauci.
And in fact, she would literally move heaven and earth to avoid any hints of causing "vaccine hesitancy."
Because she's a "centrist."
She's complicit in crimes against humanity and she knows it. As they all do.
Good response. Gandhi is revealing her true colors. She consistently tries to sound reasonable but she terrified of the blue check mark “experts”.
She's human, and has fears like most people.
It's very likely she fears the cancel-culture left and the woke-mob. Most do.
She doesn't want that Calvary. Who wants to bear such a cross and risk a career and possible death threats?
The way of the warrior is a lonely one.
There are few warriors left it seems.
The only way to go…🎯
I'd love you to do analysis on the non mRNA vaccines like Novavax and Covaxin. It's available in Indonesia and their cases went totally away - until just the last week or so when they're starting to go up again, though a fraction of what they were. I'm wondering - "do they work" or did they have a happy vaccine valley too? They're the only type of vax I'd consider - at this point, I don't feel like I need one at all, but if that changes, I'd consider it.
They need to be tested for years. This place has become insane.
The place is not insane - Alex provides detailed analysis that's helpful.
I've been following Novavax for over a year, and so far it does not have the side effect profile of the mRNA disasters - they don't seem to be clot shots or trigger headaches, etc. The reason I did not get the mRNA ones is that I wanted to know:
1. Do they work?
2. If they do work, do they last?
3. What are the side effects?
So, I didn't, and I'm glad I didn't.
On #1, the mRNA worked temporarily for Delta and the original variant, but clearly are useless against Omicron.
On #2, that's a major failure.
On #3, that's a major failure though underreported.
On Novavax, #3 looked good in testing, but we'll have to see. On #1, jury is still out - same for #2.
If the answer eventually gets answered to the Yes on all three, I'd be open to getting it IF I felt like I needed it. If I don't - even if I felt like it was safe/effective, I won't. And, I'm inclined not to get any vax until all mandates are repealed, as my conscience strongly objects to any mandate and segregation of society based on vax status.
No vaccine should be released without years of testing! None of the current Jabs would make it through just based on the side effects and deaths. Sorry but over looking valid testing is INSANE!
You've made your point - and I don't even disagree with it. One reason I like the non mRNA ones is that they haven't been as fast to distribution as the mRNA, giving time for folks to see the side effects on those in the initial testing. We'll see how it goes in the countries that have approved it - note my original comment about Indonesia.
What is Indonesia's normal testing timeframe for Vaccines? Have they released it under something similar to EUA? Regardless the people that are being Jabbed are the Test.
Novavax is a Gates Foundation project. Steer clear.
And also not fully tested which takes years. This Stack has gone off its rocker. My guess is none of these Jabs would make it through normal Vaccine testing.
Of course without Commie Dem controlled Fed Government corruption!
I think most people who jumped on the bandwagon originally and got the jab thought this was like a traditional vaccine. Thank God my nurse wife quickly explained what mRNA was - an experimental gene therapy and you're the experiment. If a traditional actual vaccine is FULLY approved as safe and effective I'll be first in line.
No vaccine should be released without years of testing. They are ALL experimental at this point.
Agree, that's my stance as well - though I'd only get in line if mandates are gone.
Yes but real testing takes years. Also can you trust the corrupt Commie Dem controlled Fed Government? I don't.
I will consider it when Phase 3 completes for ALL of these shots. Does anyone ever ponder why after as much time as Pfizer, even Moderna can't get an "approval" for their shots?
They would never make it through normal Vaccine testing. The side effects and deaths would easily do them in. The only way would be via Fed corruption.
Yikes Dr. Gandhi wants you to retract HER OWN WORDS when, apparently, she won't. This is stunning. I would think she fears the medical establishment.