I’m joking, kids! Nothing is falling faster than Covid vaccine effectiveness.
And unlike vaccine effectiveness, Moderna stock has a zero lower bound.
Still, these charts are stunning. Given that Moderna has close to $20 billion in vaccine sales baked in for 2022, a market cap of $58 billion suggests investors are moving closer and closer to assigning ZERO value to its mRNA technology going forward.
Until the corruption is actually dealt with as in holding these corrupt entities to account they will always laugh all the way to the bank at you. Just who have we seen held accountable in past 2 years? I mean really?
Don't worry, they'll be deemed Too Big To Fail™ and given a vaxxpayer . . . I mean taxpayer funded bailout. Doesn't hurt that they are all in on the mRNA vaxx travesty. They have stories to tell, if you get my drift.
Generic drug companies are not that much better than the Big Pharma (they are the small pharma - yeah they knock off couple bucks of the brand drug but still make enormous profit since they don't spend on R&D)
Long as it's competitive, which it is by nature (generics), no problem with small pharma profiting in generics. That's what they're in business for. Competition drives down profits from enormous to normal.
In this case, the point here is punishing, defunding, making an example of our worst enemies for deterrence and public safety: Pfizer, J&J. The less money they have, the less damage they can do to us.
Unfortunately, Moderna's not vulnerable to consumer boycotts, not yet anyway.
I don't disagree with punishing Big Pharma, that's the only language they speak - money. Unfortunately they have their ways - making GOVERNMENT buy for you (and sheeple believe it's free)
As a general rule buy local and from small businesses as much as possible. Exercise and good nutrition. Concerning Pfizer please keep in mind that Blackrock and Vanguard own 460 million shares of pfizer. They own 53 million shares of Moderna. Blackrock was at $7 trillion in assets before the pandemic and are managing over $10 trillion in assets today. Larry Fink is a WEF board member and a build back better enthusiast. As in build blackrock's asset portfolio better! It is terrifying what these scumbags have done an how it has benefited them. We have to boycott a lot more than big pharma is what I am getting at. Big Tech, Big Pharma, Large Cap... really turn local and build our own communities back up.
Sadly no. Moderna falling is a sign of Fauci’s collapse, but not MRNA technology. Pfizer is winning. Investors have concluded that the vax is winner take all, and Pfizer is the one. Moderna is the Yahoo of search engines. That’s all.
Give it some time…… Pfizer is a criminal enterprise. The British Journal of Medicine attacked them. The flood gates are about to crack…… sell now if you own it
Only if the mandates fall. Which is why this criminal administration is conscripting private employers to enforce the mandates no matter what. If there’s a God, there WILL be a reckoning someday.
The mandates are doomed ... private companies that put mandates will lose most of their best employees (especially when more and more of the side effects are made wide known)
I hope they go bankrupt but the current adm will bail them out. Quick story about the new anti viral therapeutics pill...Merck...one of my sons just tested positive yesterday. He is a serious type 1 diabetic so thought for sure he would qualify for monoclonal antibodies. He did not qualify. I know they do not work well with the current strain but with his health issues....worth the try. So the ER doc told him he would qualify for the new Merck anti viral pill. The catch was there were over 40 pages of info he had to complete and sign. Wonder why? Could it be because it has some very serious side effects? I also thought it strange that he did not qualify for monoclonal but did qualify for the new pill. I think they are pushing the pill because of the shortage of monoclonal antibodies as a result of the clown in the white house. My son called me and asked me what I thought he should do. I told him do not take it. It has way to many serious side effects. So they told him to go home and take Tylenol. He is not running a fever....sore throat and headache....so will keep a close eye on him. They sort of intimated if he was running a fever...he might qualify.
Also ask him to monitor pulse oxygenation with a pulse oximeter (you can buy one at Walgreens or Walmart). I listened to Ron Johnsons panel this morning and those doctors did think caution should be used with Molnupiravir and the Pfizer pill too.
Rubbish. What could possibly go wrong with new products by greedy pharmaceutical companies, rapidly-developed, hastily-tested using dubious test protocols that ignore traditional concepts of safety and objectivity, beholden principal investigators (Universities, etc.), government "regulators" who for all intents and purposes are employees and stockholders in pharma, and a hundred other conflicts of interest I've failed to mention? 😐
Thank you. I will tell his wife. Sure he caught it from her. She was sick all of last week but never got tested. He is fully vaccinated. His internist insisted because of his serious diabetes. I tried to get him to take Ivermectin but he said he feels fine other than a sore throat and a slight cough. Thank you for the recommendation.
If he feels fine I would definitely avoid any experimental pharmaceuticals, including monoclonal antibodies. (The jury’s still out in long term safety of those, too.) Rest, hydration, healthy food, and vitamins D & C, zinc, Quercetin and melatonin should help.
There have been a couple of studies on effects of melatonin supplementation and COVID prophylaxis and treatment. Figure it can’t hurt. Of note, you can supplement vitamin D safely and more aggressively than previously thought; listen to Brett Weinstein’s recent DarkHorse Podcast for more info. In meantime here is one study on melatonin:
Well La Tee Da. Thx Jay!! I read the study, and though it was a bit over my head, I re-read it a few times. It’s in our medicine chest as my partner uses it as a sleep aid. I’ll add it to my pill box. 😃👍
Just saw this^sorry. I have what I think is omicron right now, already had Delta last September, but caught this from a niece. It's just a sore throat and fatigue/irritability, some mild GI stuff. Hope your son disposes of it quickly.
They're not giving monoclonal antibody infusions to fight omicron because they no longer work. That could be why they're pushing Merck's lethal, worthless pill.
Yes....we found a doc in New Braunsfels that will prescribe it and she has a pharmaceutical compounding it. Trying to set up a zoom call. Thank you for asking
Apparently ivermectin doesn’t work well against omicron because it doesn’t bind to the ACE-2 as well. Hydroxychloroquine works better. That’s what I heard from a doctor from AFLD on Daniel Horowitz podcast.
I cannot wait until we flip the house in 2022. There are several, besides Fauci wo should be brought up on murder charges at least and/or was crimes along with the CCP for releasing the virus in the first place. Let's see if the republican party will be complicit or help the cause of freedom and justice as this farce starts to come into the light of day. Down with big Pharma rules in congress. Godspeed in your investigative journalism A.B.
Wait this was on the show so it’s fiction. That makes two fictional characters suffering heart attacks post-Peloton use (the other was Big on the horrific Sex and the City reboot). Why would Hollywood be attacking Peloton. Is this a diversion from the real reason there are many heart attacks and issues with myocarditis now which we all know are caused by mRNA jabs?
Dr R Malone Substack Dec 11 RE: Moderna mRNA Flu vax.
Panel B: Safety – Adverse events
This is the real bombshell! Note that the dose for Moderna’s COVID-19 jab is 100 micrograms, so focus on that column when comparing to placebo- 92% of patients >= 50 years old had adverse events, compared to 33% in the placebo. Even in 18 – 50 year olds – who really have no reason to be vaccinated against COVID-19 with these products- the data show a 90.5% adverse event rate compared to 30% in placebo treated patients
"Given that Moderna has close to $20 billion in vaccine sales baked in for 2022"
Not sure who would buy their vaccine in 2022. Like everything else though, corporations lobby (read it BRIBE) politicians to make government buy/guarantee their sales (same as bank loans). This way TAX PAYERS are on the hook. Most people are completely clueless that free is NOT free (and many instances much more expensive)
I wonder what their stockholders will do when they realize that their fake indemnity won't protect any of these corrupt criminal Pharma companies. Remember that if any information on the efficacy or harmful side effects of these mRNA vaccines was withheld it renders their legal protections from law suits invalid. That really makes me wonder why they want 55 year plus relief from releasing data. I wonder.
I wonder what my former friend will say. They were bragging about how rich the church where they go was now they bought Moderna stock. I hope they sold it, otherwise I will soon be able to buy me a church LOL
I agree with the previous comment - sadly, these companies will never go down due to a harmful drug/vaccine. The drop is more likely due to Joe Biden’s gross incompetence (and personal corruption) when it comes to basically EVERYTHING, including not firing Fauci and putting him on trial for crimes against humanity.
A few months ago didn't their flu vaccine trial fail? Buried somewhere in the report was the fact the side effects were too severe to pass a normal safety trial.
Stocks incorporate all information. Investors know Moderna will never be approved and probably has nefarious underpinnings that exposes then to liability.
Many many stocks tanking. The post Covid struggle will involve some major shocks to the global financial markets. Many years of Fed. stimulus at least partly to blame. We’re in for a rough ride and Covid was just “beach softening”.
I've chimed on the state of the vaccine industry pre-covid...it was a mess and Big Pharma has been getting out of vaccines for decades, thus the industry has been losing capital and talent for a looooonnnnngggg time. There were a few moonshot cos around living off of grants from govts and NGOs (like Moderna). Lastly, mRNA has been around for a long time and every big pharma co could have bought up the technology at any time if they wanted to but they took a pass. Investment bankers haven't even been pitching mRNA to Pharma bc it was futile. So this was not a little shop of miracles just waiting for its moment in the sun. There was never a chance that out of the blue, on a moment's notice that Moderna and BioNTech were going to deliver products that worked.
~ one year ago I bought small PUT options positions on MRNA and PFE (100 and 30 strikes, Jan 20 2023, if it matters). MRNA put has nearly doubled, the PFE put is down by about half. Not a lot of money, about 2 grand in each. Let's see what another year brings. Between the two, probably MRNA is a better bet against the vaxxes, since that is their main (perhaps only?) product.
By the way, about two years of investing in the options market has taught me that I probably shouldn't invest in the options market 😁
I'm a subscriber, but this is a perfect example of providing data out of context to meet a narrative. Which, in my opinion, devalues other information/content shared.
We are in the midst of the what looks to be the worst January in market history. You could insert almost any stock symbol here and the imagery would be the same.
The forces behind the market always know what is coming down before Peasant Q Public. Not a wild guess that corrupt politicians (redundant term) have already bailed after getting richer off the kill shots!
Very possibly, but generics or off-patent products stand no chance of ever been tested, much less approved, because there's no money in it. And they've gotten even better at "discouraging" anyone from using alternatives that might cut into the high-profit items.
Losses for the already rich...pfft...they'll find another niche. Swiftly heading to a 2 class society. The very rich and us. Middle class is going the way of the dinosaur.
So it went back up a bit today. Who's buying MRNA at $150 a share ? Who thinks thats a steal? Scamming retail investors out of their hard earned income is another terrible tragedy of this covid nonsense.
"I’m joking, kids! Nothing is falling faster than Covid vaccine effectiveness."
<Biden's poll numbers have entered the chat>
🤣😂
Don't forget Kamala... She be hurt if you left her out!
Lol...funny, but also true!!
Hilarious
Sorry, Alex threw a belt high fastball. Had to hit it out of the park.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving company, well maybe Pfizer.
Until the corruption is actually dealt with as in holding these corrupt entities to account they will always laugh all the way to the bank at you. Just who have we seen held accountable in past 2 years? I mean really?
Don't worry, they'll be deemed Too Big To Fail™ and given a vaxxpayer . . . I mean taxpayer funded bailout. Doesn't hurt that they are all in on the mRNA vaxx travesty. They have stories to tell, if you get my drift.
Vaxxpayer is a great term for the poisoned masses who fell for this
Great. Now for Pfizer & J&J. Easily boycotted products with competitive & generic alternatives. Vote with your wallet! (List not comprehensive)
J&J divns: Janssen. Products: https://www.jnj.com/healthcare-products; https://www.janssen.com/products ~500 prescription drugs & OTC items: Band-Aid; Tylenol, Ortho, Acuvue; Zarbee’s; Listerine; Carefree, Stayfree & O.B.; Desitin & Penaten; Neosporin/Polysporin; Neutrogena, Johnson’s, Aveeno, Clean & Clear, Exuviance, Lubriderm, DrCiLabo, Labo Labo, NeoStrata, Dabao, Bebe Young Care & OGX; Le Petit Marseillais; Piz Buin & Sundown; Regaine & Rogaine; Imodium, Darzalex, Erleada, Imbruvica, Stelara, Tremfya, Ketoderm, Levaquin, Nizoral, Sinumax.
Pfizer divns: G.D. Searle, Wyeth, Roerig, Invicta, Parke-Davis, Warner Lambert, Pharmacia; Products https://www.pfizer.com/products; Advil; Celebrex; Anbesol; Caltrate (calcium & D); Centrum vitamins; Chapstick; Cortisporin; Dimetapp, Robitussin & Dristan; Emergen-C; Nexium; Preparation H; Primatine Tablets; ThermaCare (back pain); Flagyl; Lipitor; Premarin & Lo/Ovral; Lomotil; Neosporin irrogant-ophthalmic solution; Neurontin (gabapentin); Nicotrol; Sonata; Viagra; Xanax; Zithromax & Zmax (azythromycin); Effexor & Zoloft.
I buy generic/store brand whenever I can, so it's easy to avoid helping Big Pharma.
Yep. We don't have to pay the enemy the money they use to bury us and our liberty,
Great tip!!
Generic drug companies are not that much better than the Big Pharma (they are the small pharma - yeah they knock off couple bucks of the brand drug but still make enormous profit since they don't spend on R&D)
Long as it's competitive, which it is by nature (generics), no problem with small pharma profiting in generics. That's what they're in business for. Competition drives down profits from enormous to normal.
In this case, the point here is punishing, defunding, making an example of our worst enemies for deterrence and public safety: Pfizer, J&J. The less money they have, the less damage they can do to us.
Unfortunately, Moderna's not vulnerable to consumer boycotts, not yet anyway.
I don't disagree with punishing Big Pharma, that's the only language they speak - money. Unfortunately they have their ways - making GOVERNMENT buy for you (and sheeple believe it's free)
Yep. We can't stop that right now, but we can do what we can with all their other products.
As a general rule buy local and from small businesses as much as possible. Exercise and good nutrition. Concerning Pfizer please keep in mind that Blackrock and Vanguard own 460 million shares of pfizer. They own 53 million shares of Moderna. Blackrock was at $7 trillion in assets before the pandemic and are managing over $10 trillion in assets today. Larry Fink is a WEF board member and a build back better enthusiast. As in build blackrock's asset portfolio better! It is terrifying what these scumbags have done an how it has benefited them. We have to boycott a lot more than big pharma is what I am getting at. Big Tech, Big Pharma, Large Cap... really turn local and build our own communities back up.
Sadly no. Moderna falling is a sign of Fauci’s collapse, but not MRNA technology. Pfizer is winning. Investors have concluded that the vax is winner take all, and Pfizer is the one. Moderna is the Yahoo of search engines. That’s all.
Give it some time…… Pfizer is a criminal enterprise. The British Journal of Medicine attacked them. The flood gates are about to crack…… sell now if you own it
Only if the mandates fall. Which is why this criminal administration is conscripting private employers to enforce the mandates no matter what. If there’s a God, there WILL be a reckoning someday.
There is a God and there will be a reckoning.
The mandates are doomed ... private companies that put mandates will lose most of their best employees (especially when more and more of the side effects are made wide known)
Pfizer also has a full portfolio of other products, including Covid treatments, so they're not as beholden to mRNA.
They’ve also paid billions in criminal fines for criminal offenses related to an absurd number of products.
Go back read Alex’s post of cow shots in Europe. Or read RFK.
I guess some of those newly-minted Moderna Billionaires aren't billionaires anymore.
Guarantee they sold first.
Nancy P was probably first.
Along with our "leaders".....
I sold (short :-) too
They probably started the slide
That's a thought. Maybe this is when the big shots cash out and leave the little guys holding the bag.
Twitter actually has them beat. The little blue bird is less than half her value of 6 months ago.
Twitter will soon be an echo chamber of blue checkmarks speaking themselves. They cooked their own goose.
Can it go negative? Boy I hope so.
Once the lawsuits start.
There can be no lawsuits. Not from the USA, anyway.
I think lawsuits can be filed only if there is evidence of willful neglect, which there probably is.
Nope, unless they're held criminally liable.
I hope they go bankrupt but the current adm will bail them out. Quick story about the new anti viral therapeutics pill...Merck...one of my sons just tested positive yesterday. He is a serious type 1 diabetic so thought for sure he would qualify for monoclonal antibodies. He did not qualify. I know they do not work well with the current strain but with his health issues....worth the try. So the ER doc told him he would qualify for the new Merck anti viral pill. The catch was there were over 40 pages of info he had to complete and sign. Wonder why? Could it be because it has some very serious side effects? I also thought it strange that he did not qualify for monoclonal but did qualify for the new pill. I think they are pushing the pill because of the shortage of monoclonal antibodies as a result of the clown in the white house. My son called me and asked me what I thought he should do. I told him do not take it. It has way to many serious side effects. So they told him to go home and take Tylenol. He is not running a fever....sore throat and headache....so will keep a close eye on him. They sort of intimated if he was running a fever...he might qualify.
Also ask him to monitor pulse oxygenation with a pulse oximeter (you can buy one at Walgreens or Walmart). I listened to Ron Johnsons panel this morning and those doctors did think caution should be used with Molnupiravir and the Pfizer pill too.
Rubbish. What could possibly go wrong with new products by greedy pharmaceutical companies, rapidly-developed, hastily-tested using dubious test protocols that ignore traditional concepts of safety and objectivity, beholden principal investigators (Universities, etc.), government "regulators" who for all intents and purposes are employees and stockholders in pharma, and a hundred other conflicts of interest I've failed to mention? 😐
Thank you. I will tell his wife. Sure he caught it from her. She was sick all of last week but never got tested. He is fully vaccinated. His internist insisted because of his serious diabetes. I tried to get him to take Ivermectin but he said he feels fine other than a sore throat and a slight cough. Thank you for the recommendation.
If he feels fine I would definitely avoid any experimental pharmaceuticals, including monoclonal antibodies. (The jury’s still out in long term safety of those, too.) Rest, hydration, healthy food, and vitamins D & C, zinc, Quercetin and melatonin should help.
I do everything but the melatonin (I have in my medicine cabinet). Please, what benefits with the melatonin?? TY
Melatonin: https://rubyraymedia.com/index.php/hope-view-all-articles/magnificent-mercola-melatonin-significantly-reduces-covid-19-mortality
Cici, THANK YOU! I had no idea. Great information!
There have been a couple of studies on effects of melatonin supplementation and COVID prophylaxis and treatment. Figure it can’t hurt. Of note, you can supplement vitamin D safely and more aggressively than previously thought; listen to Brett Weinstein’s recent DarkHorse Podcast for more info. In meantime here is one study on melatonin:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33741691/
Well La Tee Da. Thx Jay!! I read the study, and though it was a bit over my head, I re-read it a few times. It’s in our medicine chest as my partner uses it as a sleep aid. I’ll add it to my pill box. 😃👍
Just saw this^sorry. I have what I think is omicron right now, already had Delta last September, but caught this from a niece. It's just a sore throat and fatigue/irritability, some mild GI stuff. Hope your son disposes of it quickly.
Did you ever run a fever? He has no fever. Sore throat but other than that he feels fine. Doc called him in an Rx for an inhaler. His internist.
No fever, just sore throat and fatigue/irritability. My poor husband can't say anything right....
They're not giving monoclonal antibody infusions to fight omicron because they no longer work. That could be why they're pushing Merck's lethal, worthless pill.
Yep..
Just a thought here: does he have access to ivermectin in any form? That would be my first choice.
Yes....we found a doc in New Braunsfels that will prescribe it and she has a pharmaceutical compounding it. Trying to set up a zoom call. Thank you for asking
Try to get hydroxychloroquine. It seems to work better on omicron than ivermectin.
Apparently ivermectin doesn’t work well against omicron because it doesn’t bind to the ACE-2 as well. Hydroxychloroquine works better. That’s what I heard from a doctor from AFLD on Daniel Horowitz podcast.
I'm using ivm for this go round, seems to keep it from getting worse, throat almost back to normal in three days.
Early treatment. There are several protocols, and it's criminal that the hospitals don't recommend them:
Zelenko: https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/prophylaxis-protocol/
MATH+: https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/math-plus-protocol/
Levy: https://rvr.medfoxpub.com/
Brownstein: http://www.annethermt.com/uploads/1/2/6/7/12670943/oral_vitamin_a_c_d.pdf
Fleming: https://www.flemingmethod.com/copy-of-fleming-method
AAPS: https://aapsonline.org/CovidPatientTreatmentGuide.pdf
Mercola: https://www.stopcovidcold.com/
I cannot wait until we flip the house in 2022. There are several, besides Fauci wo should be brought up on murder charges at least and/or was crimes along with the CCP for releasing the virus in the first place. Let's see if the republican party will be complicit or help the cause of freedom and justice as this farce starts to come into the light of day. Down with big Pharma rules in congress. Godspeed in your investigative journalism A.B.
My guess is that the Republicans will be complicit. Most (not all) of them have been these last 2 years.
Yes….mostly…silence.
Good luck, with bunch of heavy swamp creatures (like McConnell, Cruz, and Graham), tons of lifelong judges, and dug in bureaucrats
To be fair, the entire market is tanking.
True but Moderna has been skidding for a while.
Dow -6% S&P -8% nasdaq -12%
Moderna down 65%
Not at all. Modern has been on a downward march all of its own.
MRNA is a failure in any way you look at it
It was at $484 on August 9th. It's currently trading at $146. Ouch.
Well, after a few tens of billions of dollars in profits, heck, a guy can take a dip or two.
It falls faster when their upper level management is implicated in the deaths of several million. We can only hope!
I hope Pelosi and her little club are heavily impacted. RESIST.
Twitter is in the 💩er too. 🤗😂
That’s poetic….’ Cause it rhymes 🤓
Sorry this was a stupid mistake on my part. Nothing to see here, these weren't the droids we were looking for, move along.
I removed the original comment.
Wait this was on the show so it’s fiction. That makes two fictional characters suffering heart attacks post-Peloton use (the other was Big on the horrific Sex and the City reboot). Why would Hollywood be attacking Peloton. Is this a diversion from the real reason there are many heart attacks and issues with myocarditis now which we all know are caused by mRNA jabs?
Doh! I saw Character and registered "Actor" I've deleted the original. Apologies and thanks for catching that!
Dr R Malone Substack Dec 11 RE: Moderna mRNA Flu vax.
Panel B: Safety – Adverse events
This is the real bombshell! Note that the dose for Moderna’s COVID-19 jab is 100 micrograms, so focus on that column when comparing to placebo- 92% of patients >= 50 years old had adverse events, compared to 33% in the placebo. Even in 18 – 50 year olds – who really have no reason to be vaccinated against COVID-19 with these products- the data show a 90.5% adverse event rate compared to 30% in placebo treated patients
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/vaccine-nation-forever-moderna-announces
"Given that Moderna has close to $20 billion in vaccine sales baked in for 2022"
Not sure who would buy their vaccine in 2022. Like everything else though, corporations lobby (read it BRIBE) politicians to make government buy/guarantee their sales (same as bank loans). This way TAX PAYERS are on the hook. Most people are completely clueless that free is NOT free (and many instances much more expensive)
I wonder what their stockholders will do when they realize that their fake indemnity won't protect any of these corrupt criminal Pharma companies. Remember that if any information on the efficacy or harmful side effects of these mRNA vaccines was withheld it renders their legal protections from law suits invalid. That really makes me wonder why they want 55 year plus relief from releasing data. I wonder.
I wonder what my former friend will say. They were bragging about how rich the church where they go was now they bought Moderna stock. I hope they sold it, otherwise I will soon be able to buy me a church LOL
Sounds more like a hedge fund that does religious services on the side.
guess why I left that church years ago...
If they bought at $20, they're still doing great.
If they bought at $450 (and didn't short it), ouch.
Unbelievable that a church is buying this stock....
I found out by accident LOL. They tried to get me back there, but no way ! To be honest I was giggling seeing the stocks drop... nasty but hey.
Tuskegee: 40 years to flatten the curve.
We can only hope that Moderna's stock goes as negative as their product's efficacy.
Those darn short sellers!
I wish I was one.
Who gives a shit about Moderna? Pfizer basically rules the entire planet.
That would explain why their stock is doing better than moderna.
I agree with the previous comment - sadly, these companies will never go down due to a harmful drug/vaccine. The drop is more likely due to Joe Biden’s gross incompetence (and personal corruption) when it comes to basically EVERYTHING, including not firing Fauci and putting him on trial for crimes against humanity.
Has anyone investigated how much pharma money went to Biden’s campaign?
A few months ago didn't their flu vaccine trial fail? Buried somewhere in the report was the fact the side effects were too severe to pass a normal safety trial.
The whole market tanked today! NASDAQ is down 4%, S&P 10%, Russell 20%.
The spin on controlled media is no matter what Biden does Republicans will oppose him. Therefore, nothing is Joe's fault. LOL!
Stocks incorporate all information. Investors know Moderna will never be approved and probably has nefarious underpinnings that exposes then to liability.
Many many stocks tanking. The post Covid struggle will involve some major shocks to the global financial markets. Many years of Fed. stimulus at least partly to blame. We’re in for a rough ride and Covid was just “beach softening”.
I've chimed on the state of the vaccine industry pre-covid...it was a mess and Big Pharma has been getting out of vaccines for decades, thus the industry has been losing capital and talent for a looooonnnnngggg time. There were a few moonshot cos around living off of grants from govts and NGOs (like Moderna). Lastly, mRNA has been around for a long time and every big pharma co could have bought up the technology at any time if they wanted to but they took a pass. Investment bankers haven't even been pitching mRNA to Pharma bc it was futile. So this was not a little shop of miracles just waiting for its moment in the sun. There was never a chance that out of the blue, on a moment's notice that Moderna and BioNTech were going to deliver products that worked.
Bad things happen to stock prices when an entity kills people!
~ one year ago I bought small PUT options positions on MRNA and PFE (100 and 30 strikes, Jan 20 2023, if it matters). MRNA put has nearly doubled, the PFE put is down by about half. Not a lot of money, about 2 grand in each. Let's see what another year brings. Between the two, probably MRNA is a better bet against the vaxxes, since that is their main (perhaps only?) product.
By the way, about two years of investing in the options market has taught me that I probably shouldn't invest in the options market 😁
It’s hard to time it. Time is your enemy with options.
I'm a subscriber, but this is a perfect example of providing data out of context to meet a narrative. Which, in my opinion, devalues other information/content shared.
We are in the midst of the what looks to be the worst January in market history. You could insert almost any stock symbol here and the imagery would be the same.
All most as fast as Bill Clinton pants.
The forces behind the market always know what is coming down before Peasant Q Public. Not a wild guess that corrupt politicians (redundant term) have already bailed after getting richer off the kill shots!
DeepThroat: "follow the money".
It's just a coincidence that Moderna is listed on NASDAQ as MRNA; right?
Right?
ModeRNA.
Let’s see what the majority stake holder AKA Fauci has made off this BS vaccine
Sort of a disconnect here. Is moderna all you're looking at? this stock marker correction is the worst since corona started.
The Moderna slide didn't just start.
Hold no harm - still a great business model.
That's nice but what about pfizer, with same technology? Why Moderna and not Pfizer?
Moderna is a pure play MRNA company. It's all they've got. Pfizer has a shit ton of other snake oil to sell people.
Now also thise pills for Covid that are 80% effective . Probably the the Betadine just as good.
Very possibly, but generics or off-patent products stand no chance of ever been tested, much less approved, because there's no money in it. And they've gotten even better at "discouraging" anyone from using alternatives that might cut into the high-profit items.
so true
Pfizer has a wide and diverse number of other drugs.
and a long history of not caring who they kill
Agreed, mRNA technology is here to stay as it CRISPR technology (gene editing). Moderna just happened to be the one to get all the attention.
Wanna bet that members of Congress sold their stock at a high point?
BioNTech too. Pfizer hanging in there by comparison.
2016 statnews. Must read. https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/
AB, given the UK move to wipe the slate clean of vaccines, masks, and all the other theater, how long before that happens here?
Depends on which state.
Losses for the already rich...pfft...they'll find another niche. Swiftly heading to a 2 class society. The very rich and us. Middle class is going the way of the dinosaur.
So it went back up a bit today. Who's buying MRNA at $150 a share ? Who thinks thats a steal? Scamming retail investors out of their hard earned income is another terrible tragedy of this covid nonsense.
Nothing like the Market to reflect the truth, no matter what attempts are made to manipulate it.