I’m joking, kids! Nothing is falling faster than Covid vaccine effectiveness.
And unlike vaccine effectiveness, Moderna stock has a zero lower bound.
Still, these charts are stunning. Given that Moderna has close to $20 billion in vaccine sales baked in for 2022, a market cap of $58 billion suggests investors are moving closer and closer to assigning ZERO value to its mRNA technology going forward.
Don't worry, they'll be deemed Too Big To Fail™ and given a vaxxpayer . . . I mean taxpayer funded bailout. Doesn't hurt that they are all in on the mRNA vaxx travesty. They have stories to tell, if you get my drift.
Sadly no. Moderna falling is a sign of Fauci’s collapse, but not MRNA technology. Pfizer is winning. Investors have concluded that the vax is winner take all, and Pfizer is the one. Moderna is the Yahoo of search engines. That’s all.
I hope they go bankrupt but the current adm will bail them out. Quick story about the new anti viral therapeutics pill...Merck...one of my sons just tested positive yesterday. He is a serious type 1 diabetic so thought for sure he would qualify for monoclonal antibodies. He did not qualify. I know they do not work well with the current strain but with his health issues....worth the try. So the ER doc told him he would qualify for the new Merck anti viral pill. The catch was there were over 40 pages of info he had to complete and sign. Wonder why? Could it be because it has some very serious side effects? I also thought it strange that he did not qualify for monoclonal but did qualify for the new pill. I think they are pushing the pill because of the shortage of monoclonal antibodies as a result of the clown in the white house. My son called me and asked me what I thought he should do. I told him do not take it. It has way to many serious side effects. So they told him to go home and take Tylenol. He is not running a fever....sore throat and headache....so will keep a close eye on him. They sort of intimated if he was running a fever...he might qualify.
I cannot wait until we flip the house in 2022. There are several, besides Fauci wo should be brought up on murder charges at least and/or was crimes along with the CCP for releasing the virus in the first place. Let's see if the republican party will be complicit or help the cause of freedom and justice as this farce starts to come into the light of day. Down with big Pharma rules in congress. Godspeed in your investigative journalism A.B.
Dr R Malone Substack Dec 11 RE: Moderna mRNA Flu vax.
Panel B: Safety – Adverse events
This is the real bombshell! Note that the dose for Moderna’s COVID-19 jab is 100 micrograms, so focus on that column when comparing to placebo- 92% of patients >= 50 years old had adverse events, compared to 33% in the placebo. Even in 18 – 50 year olds – who really have no reason to be vaccinated against COVID-19 with these products- the data show a 90.5% adverse event rate compared to 30% in placebo treated patients
"Given that Moderna has close to $20 billion in vaccine sales baked in for 2022"
Not sure who would buy their vaccine in 2022. Like everything else though, corporations lobby (read it BRIBE) politicians to make government buy/guarantee their sales (same as bank loans). This way TAX PAYERS are on the hook. Most people are completely clueless that free is NOT free (and many instances much more expensive)
I wonder what their stockholders will do when they realize that their fake indemnity won't protect any of these corrupt criminal Pharma companies. Remember that if any information on the efficacy or harmful side effects of these mRNA vaccines was withheld it renders their legal protections from law suits invalid. That really makes me wonder why they want 55 year plus relief from releasing data. I wonder.
I wonder what my former friend will say. They were bragging about how rich the church where they go was now they bought Moderna stock. I hope they sold it, otherwise I will soon be able to buy me a church LOL
I agree with the previous comment - sadly, these companies will never go down due to a harmful drug/vaccine. The drop is more likely due to Joe Biden’s gross incompetence (and personal corruption) when it comes to basically EVERYTHING, including not firing Fauci and putting him on trial for crimes against humanity.
A few months ago didn't their flu vaccine trial fail? Buried somewhere in the report was the fact the side effects were too severe to pass a normal safety trial.
Stocks incorporate all information. Investors know Moderna will never be approved and probably has nefarious underpinnings that exposes then to liability.
Many many stocks tanking. The post Covid struggle will involve some major shocks to the global financial markets. Many years of Fed. stimulus at least partly to blame. We’re in for a rough ride and Covid was just “beach softening”.
I've chimed on the state of the vaccine industry pre-covid...it was a mess and Big Pharma has been getting out of vaccines for decades, thus the industry has been losing capital and talent for a looooonnnnngggg time. There were a few moonshot cos around living off of grants from govts and NGOs (like Moderna). Lastly, mRNA has been around for a long time and every big pharma co could have bought up the technology at any time if they wanted to but they took a pass. Investment bankers haven't even been pitching mRNA to Pharma bc it was futile. So this was not a little shop of miracles just waiting for its moment in the sun. There was never a chance that out of the blue, on a moment's notice that Moderna and BioNTech were going to deliver products that worked.
~ one year ago I bought small PUT options positions on MRNA and PFE (100 and 30 strikes, Jan 20 2023, if it matters). MRNA put has nearly doubled, the PFE put is down by about half. Not a lot of money, about 2 grand in each. Let's see what another year brings. Between the two, probably MRNA is a better bet against the vaxxes, since that is their main (perhaps only?) product.
By the way, about two years of investing in the options market has taught me that I probably shouldn't invest in the options market 😁
I'm a subscriber, but this is a perfect example of providing data out of context to meet a narrative. Which, in my opinion, devalues other information/content shared.
We are in the midst of the what looks to be the worst January in market history. You could insert almost any stock symbol here and the imagery would be the same.
The forces behind the market always know what is coming down before Peasant Q Public. Not a wild guess that corrupt politicians (redundant term) have already bailed after getting richer off the kill shots!
Losses for the already rich...pfft...they'll find another niche. Swiftly heading to a 2 class society. The very rich and us. Middle class is going the way of the dinosaur.
So it went back up a bit today. Who's buying MRNA at $150 a share ? Who thinks thats a steal? Scamming retail investors out of their hard earned income is another terrible tragedy of this covid nonsense.
"I’m joking, kids! Nothing is falling faster than Covid vaccine effectiveness."
<Biden's poll numbers have entered the chat>
Couldn't happen to a more deserving company, well maybe Pfizer.
Don't worry, they'll be deemed Too Big To Fail™ and given a vaxxpayer . . . I mean taxpayer funded bailout. Doesn't hurt that they are all in on the mRNA vaxx travesty. They have stories to tell, if you get my drift.
Great. Now for Pfizer & J&J. Easily boycotted products with competitive & generic alternatives. Vote with your wallet! (List not comprehensive)
J&J divns: Janssen. Products: https://www.jnj.com/healthcare-products; https://www.janssen.com/products ~500 prescription drugs & OTC items: Band-Aid; Tylenol, Ortho, Acuvue; Zarbee’s; Listerine; Carefree, Stayfree & O.B.; Desitin & Penaten; Neosporin/Polysporin; Neutrogena, Johnson’s, Aveeno, Clean & Clear, Exuviance, Lubriderm, DrCiLabo, Labo Labo, NeoStrata, Dabao, Bebe Young Care & OGX; Le Petit Marseillais; Piz Buin & Sundown; Regaine & Rogaine; Imodium, Darzalex, Erleada, Imbruvica, Stelara, Tremfya, Ketoderm, Levaquin, Nizoral, Sinumax.
Pfizer divns: G.D. Searle, Wyeth, Roerig, Invicta, Parke-Davis, Warner Lambert, Pharmacia; Products https://www.pfizer.com/products; Advil; Celebrex; Anbesol; Caltrate (calcium & D); Centrum vitamins; Chapstick; Cortisporin; Dimetapp, Robitussin & Dristan; Emergen-C; Nexium; Preparation H; Primatine Tablets; ThermaCare (back pain); Flagyl; Lipitor; Premarin & Lo/Ovral; Lomotil; Neosporin irrogant-ophthalmic solution; Neurontin (gabapentin); Nicotrol; Sonata; Viagra; Xanax; Zithromax & Zmax (azythromycin); Effexor & Zoloft.
Sadly no. Moderna falling is a sign of Fauci’s collapse, but not MRNA technology. Pfizer is winning. Investors have concluded that the vax is winner take all, and Pfizer is the one. Moderna is the Yahoo of search engines. That’s all.
I guess some of those newly-minted Moderna Billionaires aren't billionaires anymore.
Twitter actually has them beat. The little blue bird is less than half her value of 6 months ago.
Can it go negative? Boy I hope so.
I hope they go bankrupt but the current adm will bail them out. Quick story about the new anti viral therapeutics pill...Merck...one of my sons just tested positive yesterday. He is a serious type 1 diabetic so thought for sure he would qualify for monoclonal antibodies. He did not qualify. I know they do not work well with the current strain but with his health issues....worth the try. So the ER doc told him he would qualify for the new Merck anti viral pill. The catch was there were over 40 pages of info he had to complete and sign. Wonder why? Could it be because it has some very serious side effects? I also thought it strange that he did not qualify for monoclonal but did qualify for the new pill. I think they are pushing the pill because of the shortage of monoclonal antibodies as a result of the clown in the white house. My son called me and asked me what I thought he should do. I told him do not take it. It has way to many serious side effects. So they told him to go home and take Tylenol. He is not running a fever....sore throat and headache....so will keep a close eye on him. They sort of intimated if he was running a fever...he might qualify.
I cannot wait until we flip the house in 2022. There are several, besides Fauci wo should be brought up on murder charges at least and/or was crimes along with the CCP for releasing the virus in the first place. Let's see if the republican party will be complicit or help the cause of freedom and justice as this farce starts to come into the light of day. Down with big Pharma rules in congress. Godspeed in your investigative journalism A.B.
To be fair, the entire market is tanking.
MRNA is a failure in any way you look at it
It was at $484 on August 9th. It's currently trading at $146. Ouch.
It falls faster when their upper level management is implicated in the deaths of several million. We can only hope!
I hope Pelosi and her little club are heavily impacted. RESIST.
Twitter is in the 💩er too. 🤗😂
Sorry this was a stupid mistake on my part. Nothing to see here, these weren't the droids we were looking for, move along.
I removed the original comment.
Dr R Malone Substack Dec 11 RE: Moderna mRNA Flu vax.
Panel B: Safety – Adverse events
This is the real bombshell! Note that the dose for Moderna’s COVID-19 jab is 100 micrograms, so focus on that column when comparing to placebo- 92% of patients >= 50 years old had adverse events, compared to 33% in the placebo. Even in 18 – 50 year olds – who really have no reason to be vaccinated against COVID-19 with these products- the data show a 90.5% adverse event rate compared to 30% in placebo treated patients
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/vaccine-nation-forever-moderna-announces
"Given that Moderna has close to $20 billion in vaccine sales baked in for 2022"
Not sure who would buy their vaccine in 2022. Like everything else though, corporations lobby (read it BRIBE) politicians to make government buy/guarantee their sales (same as bank loans). This way TAX PAYERS are on the hook. Most people are completely clueless that free is NOT free (and many instances much more expensive)
I wonder what their stockholders will do when they realize that their fake indemnity won't protect any of these corrupt criminal Pharma companies. Remember that if any information on the efficacy or harmful side effects of these mRNA vaccines was withheld it renders their legal protections from law suits invalid. That really makes me wonder why they want 55 year plus relief from releasing data. I wonder.
I wonder what my former friend will say. They were bragging about how rich the church where they go was now they bought Moderna stock. I hope they sold it, otherwise I will soon be able to buy me a church LOL
Tuskegee: 40 years to flatten the curve.
We can only hope that Moderna's stock goes as negative as their product's efficacy.
Those darn short sellers!
Who gives a shit about Moderna? Pfizer basically rules the entire planet.
I agree with the previous comment - sadly, these companies will never go down due to a harmful drug/vaccine. The drop is more likely due to Joe Biden’s gross incompetence (and personal corruption) when it comes to basically EVERYTHING, including not firing Fauci and putting him on trial for crimes against humanity.
A few months ago didn't their flu vaccine trial fail? Buried somewhere in the report was the fact the side effects were too severe to pass a normal safety trial.
The whole market tanked today! NASDAQ is down 4%, S&P 10%, Russell 20%.
The spin on controlled media is no matter what Biden does Republicans will oppose him. Therefore, nothing is Joe's fault. LOL!
Stocks incorporate all information. Investors know Moderna will never be approved and probably has nefarious underpinnings that exposes then to liability.
Many many stocks tanking. The post Covid struggle will involve some major shocks to the global financial markets. Many years of Fed. stimulus at least partly to blame. We’re in for a rough ride and Covid was just “beach softening”.
I've chimed on the state of the vaccine industry pre-covid...it was a mess and Big Pharma has been getting out of vaccines for decades, thus the industry has been losing capital and talent for a looooonnnnngggg time. There were a few moonshot cos around living off of grants from govts and NGOs (like Moderna). Lastly, mRNA has been around for a long time and every big pharma co could have bought up the technology at any time if they wanted to but they took a pass. Investment bankers haven't even been pitching mRNA to Pharma bc it was futile. So this was not a little shop of miracles just waiting for its moment in the sun. There was never a chance that out of the blue, on a moment's notice that Moderna and BioNTech were going to deliver products that worked.
Bad things happen to stock prices when an entity kills people!
~ one year ago I bought small PUT options positions on MRNA and PFE (100 and 30 strikes, Jan 20 2023, if it matters). MRNA put has nearly doubled, the PFE put is down by about half. Not a lot of money, about 2 grand in each. Let's see what another year brings. Between the two, probably MRNA is a better bet against the vaxxes, since that is their main (perhaps only?) product.
By the way, about two years of investing in the options market has taught me that I probably shouldn't invest in the options market 😁
I'm a subscriber, but this is a perfect example of providing data out of context to meet a narrative. Which, in my opinion, devalues other information/content shared.
We are in the midst of the what looks to be the worst January in market history. You could insert almost any stock symbol here and the imagery would be the same.
All most as fast as Bill Clinton pants.
The forces behind the market always know what is coming down before Peasant Q Public. Not a wild guess that corrupt politicians (redundant term) have already bailed after getting richer off the kill shots!
DeepThroat: "follow the money".
It's just a coincidence that Moderna is listed on NASDAQ as MRNA; right?
Right?
Let’s see what the majority stake holder AKA Fauci has made off this BS vaccine
Sort of a disconnect here. Is moderna all you're looking at? this stock marker correction is the worst since corona started.
Hold no harm - still a great business model.
That's nice but what about pfizer, with same technology? Why Moderna and not Pfizer?
Wanna bet that members of Congress sold their stock at a high point?
BioNTech too. Pfizer hanging in there by comparison.
2016 statnews. Must read. https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/
AB, given the UK move to wipe the slate clean of vaccines, masks, and all the other theater, how long before that happens here?
Losses for the already rich...pfft...they'll find another niche. Swiftly heading to a 2 class society. The very rich and us. Middle class is going the way of the dinosaur.
So it went back up a bit today. Who's buying MRNA at $150 a share ? Who thinks thats a steal? Scamming retail investors out of their hard earned income is another terrible tragedy of this covid nonsense.
Nothing like the Market to reflect the truth, no matter what attempts are made to manipulate it.