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Imagine a medical community as a whole that is so disinterested in investigating what is killing thousands of people worldwide. Then silencing dissent. Suppressing supporting data. And forbidding known therapies (as Congress critters receive it). Oh, and by the way, trust us. So many doctor-patient bonds have been shattered over this. Thank you Alex, for plowing along, reporting the truth.

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As Mike Yeadon points out, there must be a point in time when the Pharma executives, their boards, public health officials, doctors, hospital system executives, pandering government idiots & corporate interests who pushed everyone to get the experimental gene therapy must be arrested and put on trial for murder. As with the Nazi regime after World War II, this is the only way to assure this madness doesn't happen to our grand-children. They have all gone all-in on satanic lunacy. There must be an equally aggressive reaction. Save all of your documents, guys.

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What about the Politicians (President Biden) who are FORCING people to be vaccinated in order to feed the families and keep their livelihoods?

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"Unfortunately, we now know the vaccines do not preclude infection or transmission. As a result, we are forcing people to choose between their livelihoods and a freedom-robbing vaccination mandate with no rationale. We are only beginning to see the dire consequences of these ill-advised mandates."

Author: U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, a Republican from Wisconsin.

An Awakening? I hope more Politicians wake up !!!

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They knew from the beginning. The presentation of the Pfizer shot said already it would not stop the spread, would not prevent infection, only would make the sickness less severe. They did NOT do their work properly. When I read that presentation I already wondered why anyone would want that shot. Specially since it contains a product I don't want in my shampoo!

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They failed to mention that with all the breakthroughs after jabs 40% would still be hospitalized and die!

Because there were no long term studies!

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Die, yes. Die from Covid-19, no. This wonderful mRNA technology turns the body against itself. These people are dying from what they call autoimmune diseases, which are caused by the body's own immune system attacking healthy cells and tissue.

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There has been no official mandate from the Feds on vaccines. Biden talked about it, but it never has been enacted. What we are seeing is from States and employers. More reason to RESIST!

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Your wrong

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Can you please post a link to the official mandate?

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You are correct Michael. In spite of Biden's executive order, OSHA has yet to implement any policy on vaccination requirements.

You realize that you are asking an individual who cannot distinguish between the possessive pronoun "your" and the contraction "you're" to provide you with evidence that supports his statement, don't you?

Ol' Lance is just parroting "information" he got off of his favorite TV or YouTube channel. That is what passes for knowledge these days.

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Question is who, in a position to bring these people to trial, will have the courage to stand up to a huge, powerful organization that will do literally anything to protect itself?

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These are the actions of a New World Order which has already captured most of the meaningful business and political leadership positions across the world. Check out the World Economic Forum and its involvement in the pandemic:

https://swprs.org/the-wef-and-the-pandemic/

Check out the list of "Young Leaders" trained by the WEF. These include nice folks like French PM Macron, California's Governor Newsom, German Chancellor Merkel, New Zealand's Prime Minister Ardern, and so forth.

All of these are in on the WEF agenda. This agenda is nicely laid out by King Klaus himself in his books "The Fourth Industrial Revolution" and "COVID-19: The Great Reset".

It's all laid out, we know where they are going, we know they want to microchip us, we know the pandemic is an excuse for the vaccine, and the vaccine is to normalize mandatory medical procedures regardless of risk to the individual and the resulting death toll.

The only way this is going to stop is if the people go and PHYSICALLY REMOVE these people from their positions of power. They're not going to stop otherwise, and they wouldn't have started if they didn't already feel secure with their worldwide collection of leadership positions.

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I was NOT surprised to see Gruesom (Gov Newsom - oh how I HATE him) as well as most of the folks on that list. What shocked me was seeing Nikki Haley! I have to get my hands on King K's books. Thanks for the suggestion.

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No surprise to me, at all. Recall that Nikki advocated for warmongering throughout her time as UN Ambassador. She knows on which side her bread is buttered, and that side is with the establishment/globalists.

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Really? Nikki Haley? That's suprising. What a disappointment.

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I’ll never forget how two-faced she was with Trump. Phony!

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Dr. David Martin is putting together a list to present (these are the "they" behind the scenes) during an event Nov 6-7 in LA. The war criminals behind the scenes need be identified and put up on the web similar to the FBIs most wanted. The citizens of the world will hunt them down.

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I think Argillier is a bullshitter. I like Stew but I think he should vet people a bit better.

For context where this opinion is coming from, I also think Mike Yeadon's warnings are on point, Zelenko, McCullough and Malone are heroes, and Alex Jones is a legit prophet.

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Remove them and most of those working in and for the government (deep state, people in congress and senate) and all these agencies. A HUGE seasonal deep cleaning.

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I've got a bus . Giddy up!

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You claim America first, yet you are suggesting to people that they boycott the companies that own the country you love so much.

You aren't from this country, and, perhaps, you've yet to learn what the dominant ideology over here is. It is "me first." We follow the cult of selfism, selfishness, and egocentricity. That is why we little people won't unite even though it is our only hope of restoring the freedoms and liberties that we have lost over the last several decades. We can't see passed our own noses. It's the old divide and conquer strategy being employed by our own government for the purpose of subjugating us. And it has worked like a charm. We are no longer citizens of a republic. We are Uncle Sam's subjects. Welcome to neo-feudalism, neo-serf. America first.

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Us. We the people are the power. Don't expect some superhero. We have to do it ourselves, just like the founding fathers did. We first try legally and vote people out, and the new ones who run We need to get involved, inquire, ask questions so on and so forth. Even prior to elections, we must call our representatives and tell then that as a constituent I do not agree with these policies, demand responsibility. As thomas Jefferson once said, he who is willing to sacrifice freedom for some safety, deserves neither safety nor freedom. They can suppress us if we all say enough is enough and stand up.

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You know who. With a Republican house and senate, even though 60% GOP frightened, weezely, low testosterone, Rhino's with very few vertebrae. ...🥧 ⚾️ Chevrolet and Eat A D Brandon

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All politicians rely on big money. All hands are dirty. I had hopes for some, but after a while they all capitulate. No matter which party.

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Reiner Fuellmich seems to leading the charge

https://goldenageofgaia.com/2021/08/04/324789/

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What grandchildren? They're ensuring low fertility and decreased birth rates.

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Brave New World

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Purdue Pharma anyone?

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Agree, of course. But, who is there to prosecute? There are no Allies in this war.

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I'm sure the Jews felt the same way in 1944.

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there is infact an article on line, where a few survivors from the Holocaust tell exactly that. how politics were before war and how little by little, everything changed for the worse

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Well stated, Amen Joseph. Yes i been an archivist for some time, good to re-state that.

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There will be no such "point in time". The monsters who have done this to us will get away with all of it. They will be richer and more powerful than they ever imagined. Not so much as a single hair on their collective heads will be touched by our sclerotic and demonic "justice" system.

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc. committed ghastly crimes against humanity and died peacefully in their sleep, all powerful and unpunished right to the end. Besides, who

among us would be in a position to punish the punishers?

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Yes, assuming we all took that view, that would be the case. But as Atlas continues to shrug and the victims stop sanctioning their victim hood, the good, freedom loving people of this country, who are very different from the peasants & serfs of China, Cambodia & Russia, will wake up and take out the trash. Bank on it.

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Millions are already fighting back - you just don’t see it. History is determined by belief systems. The sociopathic lunatics have completely lost the hearts & minds of a vast majority of the citizenry. Watching them now is akin to watching a 2 year old flail around after taking a dump on the floor. They have nothing left and they know it. All of the censoring & manipulation in the world can’t change reality. Evil only triumphs when good men do nothing.

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Most are fighting back via lawsuits. There are many underway against employers already, and so far, employees are winning. The employers (like Southwest) will start backing down in a hurry.

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There is another way. I’d invite you to read Atlas Shrugged

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I recommend everyone try to understand the bigger picture. I'm not saying I do, but there are only so many ways you can script a show like this. One of the things they are pushing here in the US is the "death tax" so when people die early, who gets the cash? Not the heirs. And they are setting up a LOT of people to die, and die early. That's important for the transition of wealth and power to look "natural". They will just be just paying their fare share after all.

There will be no organized revolt, however, I think extremists are being created, on purpose, and when they all act individually, the 2nd amendment will be repealed and that is why we have a vax mandate in the US.

A global "utopia" is what "they" are after. They have started at the end and are working their way back to script the changes that need to occur to get from there to here. Need to reduce the global population, remove the "rugged individualists" etc. Freedom is decadence. It's gotta go.

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wanted to add, These changes are happening globally. People need to look at what is happening locally and see how it fits into the global story. That's why this is so hard to understand for most people. They think its about a pandemic, when the pandemic is just a plot device in chapter in a story. Nobody gets to see the book until the very end when all of the chapters have already been completed because if they did, they'd hunt the authors down.

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This is not another "happy ending" movie, where, in the end, justice is served automatically, and the system safeguards our rights and interests. This C19 charade was the ultimate proof that the political system is broken beyond repair, and chances of restoration of normality appear every day dimmer.

Nazi regime fell, and its exponents were brought to justice, simply because the force of its opponents (allied forces: US, Soviets, etc) overwhelmed them militarily. The difference with our situation is that the balance of forces is heavily skewed in favor of the "new normals". They don't care whether their narrative sucks and changes every few months, for so long as their MSM mouthpieces and censorship factory continue to brainwash the morons. The unpleasant realization of our times is that morons are the vast majority, and together with the compliant subjects get to more than 80% of all. Tough times, really.

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Sorry, but do not agree. The silent majority is a massive force and the enemy has exposed themselves for all to see over the last 4 + years. They are clearly unhinged and can no longer hide. They are not a massive force, but rather small in number. Moreover, they have no appreciable skills aside from lying, conniving, manipulating, etc.. I firmly believe that the decent, righteous, God fearing people of the US, outside of "morons" outnumber them 500-1.

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I wish that were true, Joseph.

But, I live in a blue area and it's far from what I see around me. The vast, vast, majority of people here want the abuse being meted out. If anything, they want more.

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Yes, its easy to pretend objective reality doesn't exist when there is food on the table, the lights are on and paper money can be used to exchange for goods & services. Unfortunately, the moral & spiritual bankruptcy that has gripped our nation will lead to financial bankruptcy, which is already baked in the cake. Anyone living in a "blue area" will learn super fast what happens when the parasite class is upset that their never-ending buffet of free stuff has ended. The vast majority of the citizens of this country do not live in future socialist hellholes.

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They're also 'the resistance'. Except, when they're the red guards. We could go on and on, couldn't we, lol.

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Your comments are spot on. I've been preaching the exact same thing. Pushed into a corner, good men will do bad things. The idiots "in charge" should have disarmed us before they moved forward. It will not end well for most but it will be especially painful for the idiots who are just dumb enough to think they have a good plan for their utopia.

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I could not agree more with you, Joseph. "They" really have co-opted governments around the world and now effectively control the world's entire population. It was not coincidence that 190 countries followed in lock step with the mandates to shut their economies and quarantine their healthy populations. How on earth do we deplorables even begin to fight back against the behemoth that they have created to enslave us all? Who is brave enough and talented enough to lead us against people who can exert this kind of raw power? Governments around the world have lost their sovereignty, likely because of bribes by the likes of the IMF, World Bank, and other central bankers. If you want find the nexus of this cabal, look there.

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1913 was the magic year for the Fed. That said, you could argue that governments around the world have been at the mercy of bankers for decades, or, for millennia, ever since bankers realized the insane profits available to them from fomenting wars around the world. History reveals the truth of that statement; not many are either willing or able to discover this truth.

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How did that silent majority do in 1940's Germany? Anyone still silent is an enemy of collaborator.

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Nuremberg 2.

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Instead of hanging, how about jailed for the rest of his life and jabbed with needles every hour on the hour, all televised live. Same for all of them.

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And made to listen on a continuous loop to all of the self contradictory statements he made about Covid and the vaccine. Just play it over and over again to him and his fellow conspirators.

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Or just give him the shots...all of them...at once. Maybe he’ll experience every side effect! Now that would be karma and justice!

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Nah…it would probably be a federal crime including the death penalty. Pretty sure it is still by injection. But we’d have to have plenty of witnesses.

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I think hanging is too quick and dirty. Perhaps a .22 magnum to each knee. Then for the rest of his life he would have to suffer unrelenting pain so he could experience the depth of the heartache felt by each JABBED person and their families and friends as they desperately try to comfort their sick and dying loved ones.

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Nah. Perfect, poetic justice would be if he caught covid and died a long, slow death ;)

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Alone! With no friends or family by his side!

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No.

Would be better to heal them with Ivermectin THEN impose the federal death penalty.

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With each of our bare hands with this murderer

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Well, you can watch it so the rest of us don’t have to.

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hanging is too nice

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And too quick. I'm thinking cobalt.

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I would like to see him ordered to repeatedly tour the country (I'm talking infinite tour here) explaining all the lies he told, educate the public on his use of logical fallacies and propaganda.

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wasn't that Epstein guy protected? Maybe the protection is short-lived?

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I know he was well connected, and highly protected (for a time)

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I disagree. I don’t think they protect anybody. As soon as they need a scapegoat, he’s on deck!!! No tears shed over that one though!

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It is not just over in Europe.....The USA is much higher over last year !!!!

https://www.usmortality.com/excess

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I think the entire failed response to Covid is causing All-Cause Mortality to increase ....masking, lock downs, economic loss,medicine in disarray ,,and now CLOT SHOTS !!!

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Tim, there is a roughly 99.7% recovery rate from "sars-cov-2" for those below 70 in the USA and Canada etc.. then you have the huge 5000 pound Gorilla in the room that sars-cov-2 has never been isolated which there is a serious growing amount of evidence for. Perhaps you consider this.

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"then you have the huge 5000 pound Gorilla in the room" for a second there, I thought you were going to say something about comorbidities

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Can you explain what you mean by "not isolated"? What evidence can you share? They have had the genomic sequence since early 2020.

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And I don’t know about you but I still have friends in denial. Many have woken up but others continue on with booster shots and won’t open their minds to reading anything.

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Thanks for the link. Looking at Worldometer, there were 725,234 deaths WITH COVID as of October 3, 2021 (end of week 39). As of December 31, 2020, there were 366,410 deaths WITH COVID. So, for 2021 through October 3, there were 358,824 deaths WITH COVID.

The US mortality site you linked claims there were 306,156 deaths deaths than what was expected. If this accurate (heh), then without deaths WITH COVID, the US would actually have experienced 52,668 FEWER deaths than expected.

Maybe it's just me, but something seems wrong here.

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Deaths "with COVID" do not automatically translate to Covid *active infections*. The high pcr cycles have ensured that *exposures* and *recent past infections* were conflated with *infections* to artificially increase the active case #s. Fauci used one of his many "half-truths" when he stated on PBS that above 40 cycles is probably just artifacts & remnants. The same is true at 35 cycles and at 30 cycles. Iirc, at 35 cycles, false + rate works out to 97%.

When they finally, recently dropped recommended cycles to 28, that wasn't "evolving science." It was corrected math. They were using bad math all along, made worse when the testing was reduced from the industry standard of 3 genes to just 2 genes (remember when the pcr tests were 1st shipped to state CDCs, and 1 of them kept failing QC due to mfg problems? So Fauci said it would be ok to just use the 2 tests that were working? That made significant changes to the accuracy of the results, and not in a good way.

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According to President Puppet and Susan Rice , those numbers of deaths are people who are hiding . So this is why he is ordering the IRS to watch everyone's spend of less than $ 600.00 transaction . And he is mandating an unproven non FDA Approved Vaccine trials . President Puppet the media is ignoring science and facts for more than 2 years now and it is only getting worse by the day .

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Look no further than China's claimed total deaths from COVID-19 and you'll see what's wrong 🤣 "Case", illness and death statistics should be taken with a whole shaker or in some cases, an entire salt mine, of salt.

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It seems that the mass vaccinations did not change the covid trajectory!!

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By "if this is accurate", I mean all the numbers, especially the "COVID" deaths.

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Did you see where the Nebraska Attorney General just generated a 48 page authorization for physicians to order Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 if they have patient consent and feel it is medically indicated?

https://ago.nebraska.gov/sites/ago.nebraska.gov/files/docs/opinions/21-017_0.pdf

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gee, and yet 40 some other states are using their medical boards to threaten and bully doctors into denying this care intervention, so, what the hell are citizens going to do with bureaucracy happy and eager to let people die?!

Yep, gonna write the Loki line here until either evil is refuted, or, millions are dead:

"Humans were meant to be ruled!"

Or, just slaughtered!... and people kneeling in line waiting their turn!...

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Yes I did. One down, forty nine to go.

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Imagine? Its actually happening.

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John Rapaport published an article about the virus that doesn't exist yesterday. Scroll down to his October 14 article if you are interested. https://blog.nomorefakenews.com

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Thank you.

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"Unfortunately, we now know the vaccines do not preclude infection or transmission. As a result, we are forcing people to choose between their livelihoods and a freedom-robbing vaccination mandate with no rationale. We are only beginning to see the dire consequences of these ill-advised mandates."

Author: U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, a Republican from Wisconsin.

An Awakening? I hope more Politicians wake up !!!

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The sociopathic lunatics in government understand that they have no moral, philosophical or intellectual basis for anything they do. And they know that we know it. The only thing left is force & dividing people against each other. That works until you’ve destroyed people’s ability to take care of themselves & their families and you can no longer grease the palms of your various parasitic constituencies from money stolen from producers. We’ve reached that line. The problem IS the government.

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Does he favor firing people for smoking a joint in the comfort of their homes? Does he favor throwing people in jail for smoking pot? I know most people have finally come around to seeing how stupid criminalizing marijuana was, but just realize that, for 50 years, being caught smoking a joint meant your life was destroyed. Both parties can be very authoritarian - the left can be with public heath, and the Right has been authoritarian when it comes to national security and criminalizing drugs.

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Breaking News @5 on local news.......

The CDC released "long-awaited" vaccine data by case and death; too bad they cannot use (or won't) the Public Health England methodology so the American People will be properly informed how bad these "Vaccines" really are.....It's all BS to convince more people to get the CLOT SHOT!!

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Panic kills. That was obvious from day zero, but there was an election to win, a build back better policy to justify, and a group of political opponents to demonize.

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Truly scary times

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The entire model of trust is shattered IMHO. That goes for the agencies who, as of this date, not provided any sort of regular cadence or deliverables to the public with regards to the safety, (and the rest of the criteria) for the gene therapeutic injections.

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I agree that trust has eroded for institutions in general. Unfortunately, when that occurs, then you have people paying a spy novelist (Alex) $5 per month for Covid reports, which is even worse.

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uh, yeah, it is called systemic intention genocide.

In the 1940s, ammunition, gassing, and incinerating.

in the 2020's, bioweapons, vicious canceling, cutting off supplies, and then, ammunition, gassing, and incinerating.

gotta fall back on the standards, eh?!

have a nice weekend...

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First do no misinformation.

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This is classic Alex. Post some statistics, but with no context. We know he wants you to believe these excess deaths were caused by "vaccine injuries", but he can't prove it, of course.

Here are some other hypothesis:

-Complications from long covid (which does involve cardiac and pulmonary issues)

-Undercounts in COVID

-Lag effect of delayed screenings and medical appointments which happened early in the pandemic

-Increase in drug abuse and suicide

-Increase in crime

Of course, Alex won't investigate any of those hypothesis. It's gotta be vaccine injury.

That's why Alex is known as the disinformation merchant. I remember a time when disinformation was free, but now you have to pay $5 per month.

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Educate yourself. Alex provides data, it is up to you to do your own homework. That is why MORE information is best, not less. Suppressing opposing views makes for an uninformed individual. I prefer to look at every single piece of info I can get my hands on.

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Statistics are great, but Alex is supposed to be an "investigative reporter" - why isn't he investigating all the hypotheses? Why does he only seem to consider his favorite hypothesis - that vaccines are causing all these excess deaths?

If you're paying this dude $5 per month, then he should be diving into all hypothesis, regardless of whether it's convenient to his narrative. But he doesn't do that.

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How much are we paying the CDC and their cronies every month? Are they diving into all hypotheses regarding excess deaths? Their only message is to get vaccinated.

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CDC has been terrible with data collection. It's sad that we're relying on Israel for so much data right now. I also think they should have tracked breakthrough infections, but I believe they decided no because corporate elites didn't want that info tracked.

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You can rule out "complications from long covid" since that would likely be listed as a Covid death and these reports went out of their way to indicate these were not Covid deaths.

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Sorry dude, that's not how it works. If someone dies from a blood clot or myocarditis 3 months after the Covid virus has disappeared from their system, that death is attributed to a cardiac or pulmonary issue, not Covid. We know that blood clots and cardiac issues arise in many Covid patients long after their acute infection is over. Are these increases in cardiac deaths due to that? I don't know. But if you're paying Alex $5 per month, I would expect him to investigate all hypotheses, not just the one that is convenient to his narrative.

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If you think someone with long haul Covid isn't going to be marked "Covid related" as cause of death, in an era when hospitals are incentivized for that kind of reporting, you're not thinking straight.

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If you call out Alex for hinting at vaccine injury without proof, do you also call out the CDC for their deception and fear mongering? It took Alex's substack, or maybe it was "bad cattitude" to alert me to vaccination actually increasing COVID infection rates in the UK. Yet the CDC claims the exact opposite for the US. See Figure 2 in

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf

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well said

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They Know. They have been ordered to stand down !

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They absolutely have been ordered to stand down. You are correct. When the civil rights divisions, human rights divisions, lawmakers, elected officials, doctors and even many lawyers are sitting in silence you know it is a planned operation. All an evil plan to get that injection into all people.

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Yes, the NBA player who was harmed admitted that he was told by the NBA not to go public with his injuries, but fortunately, he doesn't take direction well :).

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And highly rewarded for doing so.

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must be. I noticed how Paul, who first was against vaccines, now moved back and said vaccines are fine for the people who did not have the virus yet. Did he get paid, or threatened, to withdraw ? Lots of money are involved with this whole mess.

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He’s still against mandates.

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He also proposed a bill eliminating animal testing for drugs and jabs. He posed with dogs (we don’t use dogs for testing) in a press conference. I’m not sure what has possessed him, but it’s not looking good.

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Ikr? And why single out Paul?

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He actually suggested they make a new mRNA vax for the delta variant for everyone. Then he proposed a law fast tracking meds and vaccines without animal testing at all and posed with dogs at a press conference, as if we test them on dogs.

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Just a question, are you aware Dr. Robert Malone, a high voice on the matter, is making clear Delta is actually caused by the GMO-shots, in other words, Antibody Dependent Enhancement is what it has to do with?

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I admire him and hoped he'd be a voice to depend on. What changed?

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money? threats? who can tell...

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Most likely

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I think more like severely penalized if they don't. Also, just my observation, they have lost their marbles. Science is out the dang window.

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So true.

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By mammon. To be clear.

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True.. the love of wealth/riches.

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Well like twistertim told you, they know, and ordered to stand down, the ones that do, they care more about themselves than truth/morality, thus they are cowards, and those who put their careers and reputation and livelihood on the line for truth/morality, well they are the courageous ones, a minority in the world.

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They have no interest because they benefit from hiding the truth and cooperating with TPTB. It's all about the money; it's always all about the money.

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So true! I ask the same question to myself… who raised this person?

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Sadly, no; they are all in on the one-party, globalist agenda.

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I watched the Rogan/Gupta podcast start to finish, and a dimension of our problem became very obvious: Gupta -- like many in his position -- is simply not being exposed to any contrarian interpretation or data, much less is he free to buck the "everyone must be jabbed" agenda. He kept protesting "I read these studies; I think about this a lot" as though that were the answer to Joe's questions. He couldn't defend the party line, because he's never questioned the party line. Science can't survive this sort of thing. We need a vigorous, open debate.

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Gupta is not defensible. He, as a doctor has access to all the studies and many more that I do. There is no excuse for he being not informed especially as he is also a newsman an public figure. As a scientist, his curiosity should drive him.

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Gupta follows a long tradition of decent achievement bestowing authority, then making one's personal fortune by leveraging that earned authority into decades of hackery. See Krugman, Paul and Jay Gould, Steven. It is a symptom of our overcredentialed and credential obsessed society.

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Most of us on substack are not experts,but I guarantee you ,we as a group are better informed and more knowledgeable on the covid subject than the experts !! It seems once a person is deemed an expert, they stop being curious, they stop learning, and they stop listening !!! The paycheck must be very good!

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My grandfather used to have a saying and it has stuck with me my entire life. "Every single person that you ever meet knows something that you don't know." A society that only respects the opinion of someone with appropriate credentials misses 99% of reality. It doesn't bode well for any of us if we keep going in this direction.

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Love that! Your grandfather was a wise man.

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One of the wisest people I've had the privilege to know.

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Your Grandfather was a very wise man!

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Experts get captured first.

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He is a fraud. I believe he is from India, where Ivermectin is given out like candy. He is fully aware of the health benefits, and his "ignorance" is criminal, not from being over credentialled.

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nope parents from India he was born in Michigan has a brother who has Med companies and recently ran for congress in district 11 in Mi they went to local schools, Mom was an engineer for Ford, they have quite a reputation here

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My point still stands. If his parents are from India, he is well acquainted with Ivermectin.

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Like Alex tho make sure you do not spread false info any Dr not just those from India should be fully aware of ivermectin and when I said they have reputations here I did not mean it in a positive way

His brother is a real piece of work I dealt with him and the mother directly when he ran for office

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And his father is also a doctor.

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Dead on! "Experts" are, at best, supposed to advise on policy. They were never supposed to make policy. And most of them are only experts at furthering their own self-interest.

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I learned a long time ago that being a good engineer does NOT necessarily translate into being a good manager of engineers. Neither does excellence in doctoring necessarily mean excellence in policy building.

Furthermore, many fast-talking "go-getters" are mistakenly considered as "excelling" in their fields --- usually to the horror of those affected.

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I suspect this is probably true across most disciplines. And everyone reliant on those disciplines ends up paying the price.

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If being a good engineer does NOT necessarily translate into being a good manager of engineers. does being a bad engineer translate into being a good manager of engineers?

I am asking because there is a theory of management that you can promote an incompetent employee into management so that the incompetent one will not have to do any work (just take credit for the work of others).

Have you encountered this?

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Hi Wilma, sorry for the delay. -- No, I would not suggest that being a bad engineer (or doctor) necessarily implies the aptitude to be a good manager; it's awfully easy to be quite bad or mediocre at either or both.

I consider the two skill sets to be quite different from each other. While I think a good manager of engineering *must at least* have a mediocre understanding of and a strong appreciation for engineering, I don't believe it's a requirement that they excel at both.

I can recognize excellence in something without possessing the personal skill of producing that thing.

An excellent manager helps train and bring out the excellence in those they manage.

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Well articulated, thanks for that insight.

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Largely that's the nature of the beast. I recall from one college course where the instructor said, of famous scientists: They will often make one or more great discoveries or accomplishments early in life; they then assume a position as academic, government bureaucrat, etc. and since they peddle their own thing, they impede progress for decades! There's an old saying "Science progresses one funeral at a time." There's a lot of truth there, and these are probably inevitable features of the system. If one is truly looking for the cutting edge, probably the university or big corporate is the last place. Look on the internet. Problem, it's like the Wild West with nothing but you to sort the rare gem from the majority who are poseurs, con men and lunatics.

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He's like a lot of docs I think. He spent years going to school, studying, and working hard to get that MD after his name. Now that he's reached his goal he's simply not inclined to finish a long day's work, only to go home and crack a book, or do some research, reading the latest developments in his field. He's stuck at the level of knowledge he graduated with and just hasn't bothered to keep up.

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Questo e vero, but remember, Gupta is one of them.

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"Nelsonian knowledge" he knows what NOT to look for in these studies. Based on all the drug commercials on all the msm channels, CNN, MSNBC and Fox are basically funded by the drug companies, that's why it surprises me that Alex is invited on Fox so much. One should investigate how much Gupta is owned as well.

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I, too, watched the Rogan/Gupta podcast.

Gupta claims to have read the studies? Huh? If that's the case, how is it that Rogan was so better informed?

The "horse dewormer" confrontation was priceless. But the CNN twinkies have spent the post-podcast time trying to sooth Gupta: There, there, Sanjay. It'll be OK. Rogan is just a big bully.

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Better informed due to his interview of Alex B.

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I'd pay to see Alex Berenson one-on-one with Sanjay Gupta.

That would be almost as entertaining as Alex one-on-one with that Quack Fauci.

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Fully agree, but I predict that will NEVER happen.

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Yes, because Fauci only gives interviews to people who will support his narrative and never challenge him on anything. Sharri Markson, an Aussie investigative journalist who asked him for interviews numerous times for her book "What Really Happened in Wuhan" found that out firsthand. This interview with her on American Thought Leaders is amazing. Someone's probably already posted it, but here it is anyway: https://www.theepochtimes.com/sharri-markson-unmasking-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology-and-the-origins-of-covid-19_4033913.html

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Add to wish list: How about a Gato Malo and Alex Berenson? These are the only Substack "properties" I current read. But the same could apply to any pair of related writers. Doesn't even have to be video/audio; some writers may want to keep a veil of privacy, perhaps. Even an edited transcript of a long conversation. How about it, guys?

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I’d totally love to see that!

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Thanks for your perspective.

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It is about lying. How many times did Joe say "they know they are lying"...the distraction is the horse dewormer, it's about the lies!

It's about the lying! What else are they lying about!

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Hard to do when....

Americans have been in Re-education Camps for decades called PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!

Brain washed and Brain dead just like the government likes !!!!

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I listened to it yesterday and I am stunned by either he is completely uneducated on a huge amount of data out there on the disease and gets paid by CNN to be there expert OR he is a huge liar. I am no brilliant thinker, simply a researcher with a college degree and I knew the stats that he hemmed and hawed over and told JR he "wasn't sure" about.

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Goodness there's a ton of typos in that post! Don't type and talk to your kids at the same time, lol.

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Sasha - lots of good similar analogies in that as well! ;-)

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Most of us on substack are not experts,but I guarantee you ,we as a group are better informed and more knowledgeable on the covid subject than the experts !! It seems once a person is deemed an expert, they stop being curious, they stop learning, and they stop listening !!! The paycheck must be very good!

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Science is supposed to be founded on vigorous, open debate. Science is not a thing, it is a process. It cannot function as it's supposed to function in this current environment and we will all eventually suffer as a result.

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Exactly !! Science Is Never Settled and should be continuously updated as New Data comes in.

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Science doesn't prove anything beyond the circumstances surrounding an experiment at a certain time. If I remember there maybe half of psychological experiments 50 years ago that were no longer reproductible. Doctors had a moral obligation to press their patients about the risks in any intervention/treatment because science doesn't guarantee anything at all, and so the consent form protects him but now it's illegal to sue

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So, when Fauci says “attacks on me are attacks on science” that must be a problem then. Lolz.

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Well said, Taco Jones!

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He claimed he was safe from covid because he was double jabbed. Then was adamant that Rogan get jabbed despite having natural immunity.

The one thing that annoyed me was he kept saying we don’t know how long natural immunity last. Rohan’s response should have been “I understand but I still have natural immunity and until that goes away I will not get the jab”

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I hope I don’t regret saying this, but at this point, I’d rather get Covid again than the shot: the first round wasn’t even as bad as a cold. My taste went wonky. That’s it. My husband and son were worse (difficulty taking a deep breath, terrible fatigue), but neither saw a doctor, and they’re now fine. Son recently tested positive for antibodies, and it’s been about a year.

I’d rather take my chances with Covid, using IVM and supplements early or prophylactically, and isolate.

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Same here. Had Covid too, was flu-like for me (who has no comorbidities, and has excellent Vitamin D levels), got tested a few weeks later and I have antibodies. If I get Covid again, I should be protected and experience few symptoms. No way in hell I'm getting that vaccine, even if I have to find another job because my employer forces me to. Way too many side effects and unknowns with the shot.

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Same here. Had a 102 fever for the evening, taste went screwy for 3 weeks. That was it.

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Same with me. I couldn't drink coffee.

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I believe I got covid in early December 2019. My husband and I came down with what seemed like a cold or flu, low grade fever, felt sort of crappy for a few days. Then we both recovered and didn't give it a second thought. But after that I had alot of problems with my breathing, and my throat. My oxygen saturation levels were down to 91% and my doctor thought I was having a panic attack. I told her that yes! I'm panicking because I can't breathe. I saw her twice and she told me to breath into a paper bag. The asthma puffer she gave me didn't work. I could see myself breathing, my mouth was open but it felt like no air was going in. Plus I had trouble clearing my throat, I felt like I was swallowing over something that wouldn't clear. This went on until April 2020 until it finally went away. I don't recall having problems with my tastebuds or smell per se. But these nasty breathing problem spell would start with swelling and really bad stuffiness. I couldn't breath put of my nose, I couldn't clear my throat, I couldn't breath out of my mouth, my throat would get really dry, enough to make me choke. I had to sip water or keep a lozenge in my mouth while I was trying to sleep. I had to just lay in the fetal position for hours because I couldn't breathe. When I finally fell asleep I'd wake up from dreaming that I was under wwaterand couldn't breathe. But un actually fact, I was waking up because I couldn't breathe. This was the worst thing I've ever experienced. And I hope it was covid because at least then I'd have gained something from it, I'd have immunity. So the last thing I want to do is get that shot, risk terrible side effects when it's not necessary. So I asked my doctor last month when she was ttrying her me to take the vaccine of I already had covid. She said 'probably' but couldn't say for sure. She didn't recommend antibody testing because she said after 6 months those tests come back false positives and they're a waste of money. She then said that because I'm 57 and I've had health problems in the past that if I get covid, and not the covid we have now but what's she's afraid of what's coming, delta, that I have a 65% chance of dying from covid. But if I get the vaccine my chance of dying from covid is 2 or 3 percent. She said it's a horrible death, it take patients about 6 weeks to die and the patient is "aware". That scared the HELL out of me. So I said "fine, put me on the list for Pfizer. I'll come in when you call me to take it." But honestly, I hope she doesn't call, because I'm terrified of this vaccine. I may be crazy but I believe the vaccine is setting people up to die from whatever else comes around. So here I sit, terrified.

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I don’t think even cancer patients have 65% chance of dying of Covid, and there is absolutely no way these vaccines reduce risk by orders of magnitude

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It really sounded crazy scary when she said it. She's been my doctor for 30 years, and she's really good with some things. I think she exaggerates sometimes, but I don't think she's a stupid or bad doctor. But I don't care, I don't trust the vaccine and I don't know what to believe when anyone tries to push it in me. They took about an hour answering all my crazy questions. I think they truly believe in the vaccine. They've all taken it. My doctor told me that the last time she got a vaccine she had a reaction and isn't really supposed to get vaccinated. She said she had to get this vaccine, to practice. And when she got the vaccine, she said she cried because she thought she was going to die. That's how she talks to me, kind of like a friend. I've known her for a long time. But I just don't know what to think about the vaccine.

Now there's a video by Dr. Steven Quay who says the Wuhan Lab is creating other deadly viruses, specifically Nipah Virus. He said he was there in Dec 2019 and saw this lab contaminated with Nipah Virus. He said if you don't like covid that is 1% lethal, you won't like the Nipah Virus that's 80% lethal. He said it needs to be stopped. He was on Dan Bingino Unfiltered tonight. It starts in bats, they eat some Ghana fruit and poop on the ground, and pigs eat the left over fruit and poop off the ground. If we eat the pigs or come into contact with the pigs we can get the virus. It does go in through the lungs like scars covi2 but it has a special predilection for the brain. Encephalitis is a very early symptom from it. And it's 50 - 80 percent lethal. He found 18 out of 20 samples in patients that are known, but he couldn't find 2 others that weren't known or published, the Nipah Virus and a deadly influenza virus. This lab has a history of safety violations. Fears grow over virus with 80% lethality. Nipah is supposed to be worked on in a level 4, but he's found it in labs with only a 2 or 3 rating. They have terrible biosecurity at the Wuhan lab. And they're working on this stuff!!!

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Your Dr is full of it. Don't take the clot shot. If you have the antibodies you will not catch any variant. If no antibodies are present then the Regeneron treatment will absolutely keep you alive. Me and three other adults in our home(with comorbidities) just had Delta and the Regen-Cov cured all if us within a few days. Amazing stuff.

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I definitely prefer to treat covid with regeneron or other prophylactics. But it's as if the doctors here (in Ontario Canada) haven't even heard of any of these. I don't get it. I'd get the stuff on line if I could but I don't know what to buy or to do it safely. I obviously don't want to kill myself with unprescribed meds.

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were in Canada. I would also highly recommend Dr Kory and his organization the FLCCC. Their protocols as found on their website are very useful. The meds they recommend such as Ivermectin, Natroxonide, Budesonide, and Prednisone are easily and cheaply available at Tirth Medical Store on IndiaMart.com. Ordering meds from India isn't legal here or there but I'm not concerned with that when my families life is on the line. I've been using Tirth for years now. Their meds and in particular their pharmacist is very trustworthy. The Natroxonide in the US is about $800 for 6 pills. I paid $3. It's criminal. God speed to you and yours.

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If you’re that scared, you need MORE INFORMATION! Maybe the info you need isn’t available yet…then wait for it. Don’t make ANY decisions based on fear: that’s the real danger!

Speak frankly with the doctor you trust is the most open-minded. Get his/her opinion, for YOU. Do get an antibodies test first; remember, if you had Covid, you won’t just have antibodies, but T-cells, too (not tested for, I don’t think). Also, see if your doc will order an echocardiogram, too: they’re painless and not scary. Get a look at your heart BEFORE you get the shot. Then, ifyou DON’T have antibodies, your doc gives you the “all-clear”, and your heart looks fine, THEN decide. In the meantime, try to NOT read about ADEs: I’m guilty of that, too. And remember: the VAAAAAST majority of people are fine after.

I’m not “anti-vax”; I’m not even necessarily anti-this-vax…I’m anti-coercion. And I’m “anti unnecessary fear”!!

Good luck, and I hope your symptoms go away forever. 🌷

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Try not to be terrified too much. Fear weakens the immune system. Canada is so crazy right now, but if you’re able to self order a T-Detect blood test you’ll be able to see if you have immunity. Your illness was like my friends. She got sick in Dec 2019 and thought she might die. After 2 rounds of antibiotics, steroids, and me making her try alternative methods to help her breathing she got well but not until end of Jan 2020. She got Covid a second time this past spring. Her doctor refused to test to see if she had antibodies and just wanted to push vaccine on her. Lucky for her, the doctor retired. The new doctor at least tested for T Cell immunity (not iGG antibodies) and she’s immune for now but dr still wants her to get a booster!

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Thanks. I really do need to find out of I can be tested for immunity. My doctor is a dead end for that. You're right about how the constant fear can weaken my immune system. I do take a full regimen of vitamins (multivitamin, D3 2000IU, C 2000IU, A 10,000IU, Zink 100mg, Magnesium 500mg, Oregano Oil extra strength when I have a sore throat) and I make my son and husband take them too. I'm going to see where I can get tested for T-cells? Not really sure what kind of test I need.

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The T cell test is called T-Detect. The antibody test doesn’t always show a positivity nor will it tell you about immunity. It might only confirm you had Covid. I lost my taste for 2 1/2 months and my test came back negative cause I waited maybe too long to test but had I known, I’d have just paid for the T cell test which is pricey. My doctor said she’s not allowed to order it and it’s something you probably want ran through insurance. Not sure, though, if you can self-order it in Canada. My cousin there is a retired nurse, I should ask her if she knows anything as she hasn’t been out of the field for very long.

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Are you a person of faith? If so, pray and pray (or meditate: whatever you do to talk to God) until you get your answer. You’ll know what’s right: you won’t be afraid anymore. If not, now’s a great time to find Him.

Remember: for every Believer, God is in charge, and He’s the Man with the (Good) Plan 😉.

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I haven’t gotten it yet, but being armed with the info I have and supplements I’d also rather just take my chances. I know my body well enough, that if it’s something that’s not improving with my own treatments in a reasonable amount of time, I’ll seek medical help.

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I’m sure you have heard that people who had the Spanish flu had natural immunity 90 years after infection. People that had SARS 1 have natural immunity still 10 years later and have natural immunity to SARS 2. All of this natural immunity doesn’t last propaganda is bs.

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I am guessing that Gupta was the next guess after Alex.We know Alex was on Facebook outage day ,so Joe definitely had a great prep for Gupta.Joe asks the right questions and went back when Gupta tried to dodge,great interview.

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I’d like the know what “studies” he’s reading. A medical professional sent me a huge file folder w papers that show the spike protein is cyto & neurotoxic, there’s even a paper recommending against antibody based vaccines- due to TWO mechanisms involving ADE in ScV-2. They MUST know. And this entire time all the “experts” deny the risks of ADE & have maintained the spike protein is harmless.

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I agree. This omission is astonishing!

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It was obvious he had no fucking clue about the Hoeg study on myo. He released some propaganda published on Cnn.com afterward to cast the discussion in a more favorable light for himself.

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Thank you for informing me of this with your perspective.

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You're being much to charitable to Gupta. Ignorance like he displayed is a choice.

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Agree. Gupta is pretending not to know things to prop up the narrative. Every actual MD doing this should be first in line for the guillotines.

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Most of us on substack are not experts,but I guarantee you ,we as a group are better informed and more knowledgeable on the covid subject than the experts !! It seems once a person is deemed an expert, they stop being curious, they stop learning, and they stop listening !!! The paycheck must be very good!

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It's just stress, right? My workplace is having "lunch and learns" with a doctor so we can "ask all our vaccine questions." I guess this is part of their "encouraging us to get the vax so we don't feel so violated when it's mandated anyway" program.

What a waste of time that will be, as I already know ALL the answers to these questions:

"Hey doctor, are there any drawbacks at all with any of the vaccines?"

"No, of course not. These drugs are the most perfect thing every developed by mankind. They are so safe and wonderful that it's as if God Almighty himself made them in his own image."

"Oh, that's wonderful. But what if I still don't want to take it?"

"You're fired."

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What I have noticed, is that the doctors who are in large healthcare plans are the ones who are pushing the vaccines, which seems they must do what their employer says, or possibly be fired. Doctors who are independent are more inclined to give facts about vaccines, but not push them. They are also the ones who have a Covid protocol to treat patients when they are first diagnosed, which keeps them out of the hospital, and will order Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin prophylactically, or for patients to keep on hand, if they get Covid.

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Yes! I live in “the city”, my bf lives in a rural area about an hour outside of the city. Both in our late 50’s. I am fit and healthy with no underlying health problems. Bf could stand to lose 25lbs, is vitamin D deficient, but otherwise healthy. My docs pushed the vax and I’ve already received an email from them about boosters. My Bf: his doc (an MD) said he personally would not recommend the vax and prescribed him the FLCC prophylactic protocol, including ivermectin. I was happy to have some on hand should I need it! It gave me some hope that all aren’t being strong armed, but at the same time was a big red flag to me.

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sounds like good doctors DO exist....

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Doctors who are also employees are screwed. My husband is seeking a (well-deserved) medical waiver; his UCLA neurologist (whom we adore) will allow him to take a medical retirement, but *can’t* (not *won’t*) offer him a waiver. The neurologist suggested he see MY private, more libertarian doc for that…but DIDN’T try to talk him into getting the shot.

I cared for my BiL during the worst of his Covid; he has insulin-dependent diabetes, too, and his blood sugar got out of control, which is what almost killed him. He was hospitalized for several days. I didn’t wear PPE; instead, I relied on my antibodies (my immediate fam all had Covid late last year),took the recommended supplements, consumed anti- inflammatory foods, gargled with Listerine twice a day—plus I took three doses of IVM (72 hours apart).

Perhaps BiL was no longer contagious when I got there (I arrived on about Day Four of his symptoms); or one of my prophylaxes or immune system worked, but I didn’t get it again (yet). Knock wood/thank God.

I brought enough IVM home from my BiL’s to treat a horse (😉); if anyone around here gets sick, it’ll be early treatment for us!

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I think some people just have natural immunity. My siblings and myself had several contagious illnesses during our childhood (scarlet fever, measles, German measles, chicken pox, etc). Not once did either of my parents get sick. Even my Aunt who had to come and care for my two very sick siblings because my Mom was In Hospital having me and suffering complications never got sick and neither did her two young kids. I think if you have a very strong immune system, your body can withstand a lot!

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Can I ask where you got your human grade med?

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Search the FLCCC website. It links to a region by region list of docs who will prescribe IVM. https://covid19criticalcare.com/

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Got my ivermectin protocol from My Free Doctor.com

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My family got ours from myfreedoctor.com They will prescribe for prophylaxis.

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I used horse paste, and I’d do it again. I checked with a doctor-friend in another state, and he said go for it, so I just dosed waaaaay down. It was “apple-flavored”. I used just over the size of a pea (about one click). It was gross, but not THAT gross. And ZERO side effects.

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I see three MDs (including primary.) So far, one on two separate visits has asked if I'd gotten the jab. Not recommended pro or con, just inquired. I like that! I am in Florida which hasn't (yet?) changed into a People's Republic.

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Thank goodness for DeSantis! I wish I could move there and almost did, but it’s just too expensive now.

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That’s been my observation as well just from seeing both types for my own health appointments.

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My good friend's doctor admitted that she would lose her medical license if she even tried to prescribe Ivermectin for covid treatment or prophylaxis. That's how they force doctors to comply. Doctors no longer practice medicine. They practice politics.

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Same. I had my yearly bloodwork done and decided to go into the office (the VA) and see my pcp, face to face, to ask this question. Her response was “we are not allowed to prescribe ivermectin”.

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And they wonder why people are getting it from the tractor and farm supply outlets. This is so infuriating and criminal that the government is legalizing the killing of its citizens. Military has always been licensed to kill, but now, outside of abortion, it appears the medical industry has also been given a license to kill.

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My regular doctor said the same thing. Only independent Doctors seem to be able to do so now. I went through FLCCC and had a thorough telemedicine visit first. However, it’s now been 3 weeks and I haven’t received my script. Even the pharmacy is baffled by the delay, so it leaves me wondering if something is going on trying to stop the operation. I hope to learn more tomorrow as pharmacy said they will try to track it down. My payment has gone through as well.

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I know that others have had trouble with the frontline doctors because they are swamped with calls from people who can't get their own doctors to do what works. It is a very discouraging scenario.

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Yes it sure is. The pharmacy originally said there might be a week delay but now it’s going on 3. I fear I could get sick before I receive since I work with the public, I’m getting more exposure than before. I’ll keep my 🤞🏼

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I used a website that someone on here recommended to get it directly from India. The site looked extremely shady but I took a gamble because I generally trust the info from people on this substack. You place your order and then go to PayPal and pay. All together took about 3 weeks but it did arrive and I got enough for the 5 of us in our family. It didn’t cost too much. I hope yours goes through. Let me know if you want the website for India. I was very relieved to add it to our “covid kit” that I’ve put together for when we get it. I wanted to ask the PCP simply out of curiosity to see what she would say. I did not have high hopes that she would offer it.

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Did you need a prescription first or do they fill orders even without a prescription?

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No prescription. It’s OTC there.

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Thanks! I will keep ya posted. I already paid for the meds. It was pretty cheap and I got a year supply. I just hope I get them soon!

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Oh wow! That’s great!!

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They Practice Obedience !

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What’s also interesting is when you read on the CDC and Drug Companies websites, you read the “Who shouldn’t receive the vaccine? ” (not exact words here) and yet they are not allowing exemptions most places for these reasons not to take it!

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"[this study] showed that vaccines provide no additional benefits to those who have already contracted covid & have natural immunity. So why should we risk the side effects of the vaccine for no benefit?"

"Joe Biden says the vaccines wear off after 8 months [insert actual quote], and then we will require boosters. The Pfizer CEO says we will need annual boosters? Do you think we will require boosters every year going forward, or every 8 months?"

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I've had a bad feeling about this from very early on. Not about covid, about the vaxx. And I mean since shortly after the vaxx became available. It's a visceral reaction, an 'intuition' if you will. It's that nagging voice that keeps saying there's something not right about this, but you can't put your finger on what's not right. And no, I'm not saying I'm psychic LOL. All I can say is that most of my intuitions like this turn out to be correct.

What has taken me by surprise in this case is how quickly it has become apparent that something indeed is not right, and exactly what that something is.

I think what's coming with these vaxes is going to make thalidomide and vioxx etc look like a picnic.

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I've felt like that since the beginning. I knew, in my soul, that covid wasn't nearly as dangerous as it was being presented. I was open to being wrong, and I actually looked for evidence in my own life and the lives of people I actually know, that it was deadly, something to be feared, something so different than anything we'd ever experienced that it required a complete restructuring of society.

I didn't find any evidence, and still haven't.

Then I looked back: why did I know it was all bullshit?

Well, I grew up in a family of bullshitters. I can smell it a mile away.

I think mostly it was how the whole thing was reported. In a real emergency, the media and our leaders would be trying to keep people calm. In this case, the media and our leaders were constantly telling us to be afraid. Then they were telling us if we weren't afraid, that we'd kill other people. They used guilt, fear and shame to manipulate behavior.

Yeah, no. My mother was a master at that shit, and I learned how to spot it and protect myself from it around sixteen years old.

This is just a theory, but people from happy / good / functional families grow up trusting authority. Those of us who had to parse every word to find the truth, or had to take extreme precautions to protect ourselves, question things more, and see through lies a lot more easily.

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In the press release about the jabs it said they would not keep the virus from spreading, they would not keep you from getting it, and you could still get sick and die. Did no one else read that, I wondered. With all the side effects, why would I mistrust my godgiven system and rely on unproven meds. I also read the article published when the 2004 tests on animals stopped. All animals died. They had no resistance to the benign viruses after being given the jabs. I hope people fare better, but it does not look too good.

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My mil has shingles. My sil is having MS symptoms, all about 6 mos after the jab. It’s as if the jab is causing immune system dysfunction, as predicted by several virologists.

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My sister had shingles too around the same time post jab. She hasn't connected it herself but I recall listening to an interview with Dr Ryan Cole where he mentioned it.

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I read the study about the animals as well and if they couldn’t survive it what makes them think humans will?

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I mentioned in an earlier post I felt same way and that was while it was still being developed. I always say trust your intuition. I felt the same way when Obama was running. The first thing I said to a friend, is I have no actual reason to feel this way, but there’s something about him that gives me the heebie jeebies. I was correct and even said we were headed for some bad riots in the future and that he was undoing all of Martin Luther King, JR’s progress.

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I'm very worried too. I read and write on a forum discussing a biotech that has a therapy for moderate/severe covid. A powerful and manipulative group has operated on that forum for years. They appear to have a remarkable ability to foreseen the future. Although the company itself was blindsided by the FDA decision not to approve the above therapy for dying children, they knew at least two years in advance because they did some damage control and I called them out on it on the forum and wrote to the FDA. They've made several cryptic refs to 'the next thalidomide'.

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Thalidomide certainly has a checkered history. Trivia: it actually is still an approved drug (not until 1990s in USA though). I'm not sure for what purposes, but probably safe to say it's not recommended for women during pregnancy. Turns out there's a lesson this "trivia": here's a drug that turned out to have unanticipated dangers, yet has been kept on because it has certain therapeutic uses. There is no substitute for a long history of side effects; something utterly lacking with mRNA products.

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Exactly, these vaxxes have ZERO history. It the main reason I - and a lot of other people, apparently - won't be getting this vaxx any time soon. They can come ask me 10-20 years from now.

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Now that's really scary :(

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Yes, it is. By 'they' who knew in advance, I'm talking about the group on the forum. I used to think they were pharma trolls but they seem to know deep things that are not in the public domain, such as who the donors are (for the stem cells.)

The most intelligent and informed poster wrote that the FDA approval of toxic drug (Ruxolitinib) was a good sign for the stem cell company (whose product would be a direct competitor) and it was good this drug would be saving lives while the safe and effective MSC product was being considered for approval. I didn't buy how anyone with that level of knowledge could come out with something so dumb. Most patients with aGVHD die from severe diarrhea and Ruxolitinib is a tablet.

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I started to have a bad feeling about quick fix vaccines back in the Swine Flu days. This was what....over 40 years ago.

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I had the flu once, in 1978. I've never had a flu shot before or since.

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Same here. Last flu shot was about 35 years ago, and it gave me an instantaneous blinding headache. Haven't had the shot since, nor the flu.

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Geert Vandenbosch predicted this would happen, but not this fast:(

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Along with Dr. Robert Malone. Did you see the interview with both of them by Del Bigtree if i remember correctly? It's a must watch.

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Yes I did😕

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Good to know... what did you think of it?

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I think he's brilliant and he's correct.

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Which prediction, ADE or VME?

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GVB was more about the VME and yeadon more about the ADE i think its a mixture of both actually. we now have a genetic therapy driven virus plus ADE plus all the hundreds of types of adverse events most notably thrombocytic events. in canada its alarming how complacent and blind everyone is. its disheartening.

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You are right about Canada. People are brainwashed into a terrorized state and yes, complacent.

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I'm terrified of the vaccine. I've called my MP, MPP, City Hall, and they've all gotten behind the vaccine and the vaccine passport. I can't go into any restaurants to eat because I'm not vaccinated. Now I'm worried about supply chain issues. All my Liberal family members don't see any of it as a problem. I predicted that the government wouldn't stop with vaccines, that people would still be forced to wear masks. They didn't believe me. I predicted the vaccine passport but not in so many words, I said something more like having to show papers, that we would be limited in our participation in society, and I believed that because it was a natural extension of the event limits. They didn't believe me. They're all zombies. And they keep voting for that woke authoritarian dictator Trudeau. Scares the hell out of me. And we have no cases here. We never had more that 7 deaths here. Yet we endured some of the toughest lockdowns because the Premier forced it on the whole Province. The numbers were consistently high in bigger cities with higher population densities. But all the Northern Ontario region wasn't experiencing many covid deaths if any. I know this is not about covid. Covid is the Trojan Horse that carries the real weapon for mass extinction event. They're trying to kill us.

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I'm in Washington State, and the same is true here. As of October 25, no restaurants, no sporting events, no visiting public spaces such as museums for the unvaccinated. Can't even visit an outdoor event such as a farmer's market without a PCR Covid negative test. Must have rubbed off both directions from our proximity to Canada.

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You ought to be more terrified that it is not a vaccine but a gene altering mRNA lethal injection. Seems like you are in Canada like me, are you?

I can't go into any restaurants either, you might consider though in a way it is a blessing in disguise and sure, i do like some foods from good restaurants, you can get them delivered though these days. If you are concerned about supply chain issues, well it's already past time to have been stocking up on supplies, so i would strongly urge you to do so now with what you can. So sad to see all your leftist (not really liberal) family members do not see it as a problem, they will soon, and see you were not so unjustified in your concern. We didn't predict Annette, we just told me what we knew to be coming from study of what the NWO is about and their agenda. Yes they are zombies (so fearful to face the truth because of how attached they are to the world) but you must pray for them for the true austere Jesus the Christ of the Scriptures to open their eyes, praying this daily in true faith and the Lord will answer if it be according to His will. So they keep voting for Trudeau eh? sigh.. how spiritually and mentally sad. No cases and no more than 7 deaths? Wow. I doubt those causes and deaths were even from this imaginary sars-cov-2. Sorry to read you endured some of the toughest lockdowns, i'm in Toronto, where are you? You are right the North got treated like it was Toronto when it shouldn't have, hence why Doug Fraud's press conference today addressed this if i remember correctly but he's a spinless coward fraud who has betrayed us to the Antichrist rising kingdom (NWO / THE GREAT RESET ETC). You are generally right in your last 3 sentences, it's not about "covid", it's about the Georgia Guidestones, especially "commandment" number 1 and with this genetic altering mRNA lethal injection, it's yet another attempt, a very huge one unlike we have seen before in a long time, to reduce the "useless eaters" ...old people are a strain on the system, they cost too much to take care of them, so get rid of them and all others who are part of the depopulation agenda.

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The wheels are coming off the vaccine bus faster and faster now. Quite a few of the idiots are going to be hit by them before they stop rolling down the highway. Hang in there.

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Your family sounds like my Brother. My Canadian family while I think they feel the same as I do as they are Conservative are afraid to have a conversation on the phone for fear the government is listening in on the conversation. It’s quite alarming and sad all at the same time.

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Commonwealth countries are some of the worst. Total Marxist Control. Unfortunately much of the USA is heading that way.

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Questo e vero. As one in the growing Socialist stronghold of Toronto, many are indeed put into a terrorised state and complacent exactly because of how good Canada has had it, no wars, no famine, no real 3rd world reality but we are sure heading towards that quickly... and only a minority are resisting the NWO.. and it grows but needs to grow much faster... hence why i pray daily for the Lord to have mercy on this accursed nation, to get the fools to have a Damascus road conversion and deliver us from this increasing evil.

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Thank you Erika for that, well articulated demonstrating a keener knowledge than average, you put it in the words i couldn't. As one in Toronto, man are we under heavy daily information war propaganda.

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More nasty news about the jabs. Denninger just posted this this morning:

https://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=243905

Remember the blood donor antibody sampling? That is about the latest of that from the UK. Guess what? N-antibodies -- which come from natural infection, and are the most conserved and thus unlikely to mutate (The N-proteins, that is), and what you need for actual sterilizing immunity -- have flat-lined at 20%, which S-antibodies have hit nearly 100%.

As Denniger notes, this is likely evidence that the jabs screw up natural immune response, and breakthrough infection in the jabbed doesn't produce N-antibodies. This could be quite nasty -- meaning the jabbed could experience multiple breakthroughs.

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thats it exactly. innate immunity, that which recognizes all related viruses is SHUT OFF> also why cancer will increase, why all autoimmunity will skyrocket.

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Note this would be an OAS type effect. The jabs lock your immune system into an S-only response. So, worst case, perpetual covid amongst the jabbed. May need to keep getting those boosters.

Very, very nasty possibilities here. We "purebloods" may just inherit the earth.

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May just need to keep getting those boosters… what an awesome business model…

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Lifetime subscription. Just a question how long the lifetime will now be with repetitive insults from synthetic spikes.

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IIRC doesn't the current jab only address the one type of spike on Covid? That would render boosters pointless?

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Yep, it induces an immune response to just a single epitope of the spike protein. And of the original Wuhan Classic virus, not what the viruses has mutated to today. And if we've got an OAS-on-steroids effect here, then modifying the boosters for the mutated spike(s) maybe be fruitless.

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And, even if they offered a booster "version 1.1" with a revised spike protein, they would have to do all that pesky time consuming testing again. And even if they skipped it (a possibility I'd not discount, seeing how standards are being shed left and right), the efficacy of the booster might work. But it would still likely have the same limitations we already are seeing: rapidly losing efficacy, side effects and so on.

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And how will this affect the unvaccinated?

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Thanks

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They're working on the Delta variant version currently. It will look so effective compared to the current batch.

Until the virus mutates again within the vaxxed community...

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There’s been some partially-substantiated speculation they had advanced knowledge of the “alpha” sequence far before the world knew. That mRNA injections can be “quickly made” might have been a cover story for how soon the first renditions were available for testing/subsequent administration.

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That's true. See that DARPA rejection document that was leaked. Daszak, Baric, with Fauci's blessing, outsourced the project to the lab in Wuhan. The spike is their creation, and so is the vaccine. They were working on that as part of that Frankenstein experiment they proposed to DARPA.

They supposedly came up with the modified spike sequence to use in the vaccines in about two days. Nope, they had it well before then.

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I've been wondering the same. If this is another hole that needs to be poked into the vaccine narrative.

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I thought one of the reasons stated for using mRNA vaccines is how quickly they are to produce compared to traditional vaccines like the flu. Why has it taken so long to get a new version for Delta?

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I don't know. The CEO of Pfizer said they could turn it around in 3 months. I would think they already have it.

I think they are either testing it now, or the problem is more difficult than they believed.

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Even if they could produce a new mRNA product in zero time (and very rapid development is one of its "bragging rights") there are still problems. As I just blabbed above, even if they skipped all usual testing and went straight to mass production, it still would take weeks? months? to jab a significant population. A mutating virus is a moving target, and I doubt under any realistic scenario that they could respond quickly enough with a new jab.

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Great question

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A booster a day, keeps the covid away.

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Thank you for posting this. I had been wondering if people who got the shot ended up with immune systems worse off somehow, even more than at risk of ADE,.

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The push in this country to vaccinate children is starting to keep me up at night. This group had the most to lose if there are any long term vaccine side effects. And of course they have the least to lose if they actually get infected with covid. I can't wrap my brain around this because it seems so obviously sinister to me.

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'I can't wrap my brain around this because it seems so obviously sinister to me. " A good sign for the well being of your family that you see it. Eyes open, brain engaged. Discernment at every turn and twist of the powerful/power hungry.

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Clearly the excess deaths aren’t caused by lockdowns, medical delays, changes in physical fitness, depression from isolation, suicides, drug overdoses, unchallenged immune systems, covid or vaccines.

No, that’s way too obvious.

They’re all dying from ‘Climate Change’. Just ask Joe, if he and his minions ever allow questions.

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Indeed, there are other pathogens and diseases out there. Question is whether the vaccines could be an immunosuppressant leaving a person open to other illnesses. We know natural immunity beats vaccinated immunity but, I would add, a health body and immune system beats them both.

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THAT right there is one of my biggest fears. Just in my small circle, I can report clots, Bell's Palsy, death of a 53-year healthy hockey coach from a hole in his aorta. Those are side effects associated with the jab. One I have not heard of is shingles, which my 43-year old brother got, so I researched it. Shingles can be triggered when your immune system is compromised. Since my brother is extremely fit, and got shingles 2 weeks after the jab, I think other diseases will start making themselves known.

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A friend of mine got shingles even though he had the older version of the shingles vaccine.

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My father got shingles about 3 weeks after the second jab. He too had an older version of the shingles vaccine.

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It appears the shots are suppressing the immune system at least temporarily, in the same way chemotherapy does. The open question is how long it will take to fully recover.

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Yeah, in my small circle I've seen Bell's Palsy, shingles, stroke, glucose metabolism problems, joint pain and cognitive problems. All occurring shortly after those people got vaccinated.

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I should also add, that's more side affects in more people than I know who actually got COVID, and certainly more than were hospitalized or died.

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Have also seen shingles in my circle. Mid 30s.

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Sadly, shingles may be just the start of lifelong illnesses caused by the jab.

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There is simply no long term data. Even the earliest test groups, which only numbered in the thousands (?), could not have been more than what, maybe six months ahead of the December 2020 roll-out of the mRNA jabs. With the planet-wide "Phase 3" test now ongoing with billions of poorly-supervised subjects, we have, by far, the biggest medical experiment ever undertaken. The next few years are not gong to be a happy time for lots of people.

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So could it be that those who want jabs for all want to eliminate the "control group"?

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My mother's friend (80yo) developed shingles. She is vaccinated. Her doctor diagnosed it and gave her something for the shingles (in the office - an injection? Can't remember). She could not get out of bed for days and is still suffering side effects/fatigue. Scary stuff. My mother can't say anything about the correlation...

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Gee, I was so impressed that CTV had this story. Then I saw the date: 2015! Thanks for the links.

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From:

https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/10/comparison-reports-proves-vaccinated-developing-ade/

"People aged 40-69 have already lost 40% of their immune system capability and are losing it progressively at 3.3% to 6.4% per week.

Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (for viruses and certain cancers) within 6 months.

30-50 year olds will have lost it by Christmas. These people will then effectively have full blown acquired immunodeficiency syndrome and destroy the NHS.

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Makes sense. I knew a person who, undergoing chemotherapy, was given the vaccine without her or her families permission--and died. Another women in her third trimester of pregnancy was told she couldn't deliver in the hospital unless she was vaccinated took the vaccine and miscarried. Another close family member, a firefighter in S.F., was forced to take the vaccine and suffered heart inflammation and is not working now after a year and a half responding to COVID calls day in and day out. And yet another person who had COVID, took the vaccine, and after the second dose spent three days in bed. Human beings are living, breathing viral and bacteria factories 24/7. We need an intact, functioning immune system. The idea we can take any pharmaceutical without a negative side effect has somehow been ingrained in our thinking. Risk has to be balanced.

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At the very least, its just people who couldn't get to the doctor's office during the lockdowns and people gained a bunch of weight, gyms were closed etc. The effects of the draconian lock downs will be felt for years, particularly with mental illness and also the horrific effects it had on children, who continue to be masked in school.

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this is so unacceptable to me. so so so rephrensibly irresponsible and parents are just out to lunch. so immature and ignorant. i have zero respect for most people in my very affluent community. they are the most brain dead. judges who fire their cleaner they have had this entire time bc she wont take the jab. drs in my hood who post about "google drs" and "did they spend endless hours at med school" while they tout the most unscientific and truly outrageous and preposterous notions about covid. ...deadly for all, deadly for children, vaxx saves lives, vaxx tested and safe and effective, vaxx for all so we can lead normal lives, no vaxx no healthcare. that kind of anti Hippocratic oath nonsense.

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Yeah! And WE are the stupid ones!!! Blows my mind. This is one of the very few situations where I do not take any delight in being right.

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There is definitely something to the theory the vax is throwing gasoline on the fire. An out of town friend came to stay with us this weekend. She is fully vaxxed and was one of the normal people who was ok being around someone who wasn't. She hadn't been feeling well (blamed allergies), flew back home Tuesday... and on Wednesday morning called to tell me she had taken a rapid home Covid test and tested positive! I feel fine, as does the rest of my unvaxxed household. She said she hadn't been smelling anything for a few days, either. Interestingly, I am still fine despite going to an NFL game Monday night with her in a stadium that holds 71k people.

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I have stated from the second that Trump opened up Pandora's box to the tyranny by shutting down this economy, that there was something so very sinister happening and our country would never be the same again. I'm not saying that he was the bad guy or the culprit here, I think he genuinely believed that the virus was very deadly based on the warp speed with which computer models were created, mass hysteria was ramped up and Fauchi swooped in. That being said, to me it seemed akin to "jumping the shark" and I have never wavered from that belief. Fast forward nearly two years, and our constitution has been intubated and lives on a ventilator....this has all been heartbreaking and so surreal to witness. I don't know whether to be angry or compassionate toward the fools who have bought into this fear, who just can't see past the façade. My soul aches every day

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I felt as you did. The minute the initial 14 days thing was extended, I had an overwhelming sense of dread. It's amazing (and comforting, somehow) to know so many people had a similar reaction.

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Same

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Same. Trump did start complaining about the damage to the economy, but he was toasted in the communist American media and backed down.

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Weird. It's almost like forcing your cells to make massive amounts of toxic spike protein for your immune system to attack could lead to cardiac, pulmonary and cancer problems.

Clown world intensifies.

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This is too much. Why there isn't 200 million Americans headed to DC to get to the bottom of this is beyond me. They're killing us people, wake up!

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Because Americans have been in Re-education Camps for decades called PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!

Brain washed and Brain dead just like the government likes !!!!

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Why? You ask a big question, there are many reasons why, one main one is how well many Americans have been deliberately stultified over the last several generations via the 'education" system to be politically and intellectually in a coma, immensely deceived about how their nation has been infiltrated by Socialist/Communist ideology. I strongly encourage you to look up "Charlotte Iserbyt" who authored "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" and watch her material (she's been exposing these things for many years) and please watch the following by ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov and it will make so much more sense why 200 million Americans are not heading towards DC;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw - FULL INTERVIEW with Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion (1984)

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The problem has many names. Cultural Marxism is one. The alterations in America's (and probably other western nation's) universities began at least before WW II and perhaps even earlier (somewhat arbitrary, choose event or date as you like). Capturing universities was a brilliant move, especially the elites, because that is where tomorrow's leaders in business, government and most importantly, future educators are trained. Depending upon how conspiracy minded you are, feel free to blame a secret cabal that oversees everything and/or a certain ethnic group who must not be named 🤐 who historically exerts influence far exceeding their number, lizard aliens or the boogeyman of your choice. Whether these changes were planned or simply the unrolling of historical changes, they happened and the result is what we have today.

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Not only us, they're coming for the children and already killed and maimed more than you can fathom.

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I think we all believe we're a minority. We believe we'll be beaten down. We'll think what happened to that group at the capitol last year will happen to us. We don't have a strong leader to tell us otherwise. But we are ready and want to do something.

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Why 200 million American aren't headed to DC? Because Pelosi will reinstall the chain-link fence around the Capitol.

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I'm wondering too.

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Yeah ... I have been reluctant to go down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theory on the "Global Depopulation" agenda. However in the back of my mind, I cannot help but think there is a darker, more sinister play at hand here. Time will tell. Will be greatly interesting to start seeing Vaxxed / Non Vaxxed death rates fairly analyzed across the spectrum. Good luck finding an unbiased report on this subject. Not everyone is a cool aid slurping idiot and at some point, the truth will show up. How long it takes the average folks to believe their lying eyes will be the big question.

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In the meantime I’m checking out of the hotel California

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Good one!

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Like you (?) I haven't fallen down the rabbit hole yet. Since pandemic began, everything seems like it can be explained by "normal" power lust (e.g. everybody get s to play petty tyrant and lord it over his hapless subjects, all "for their own good," of course.) There has been lavish "emergency" spending, again, something for nearly everybody, but the lion's share to government agencies and big government. Big Pharma has especially profited, seeing how the have guaranteed income streams for mandated jabs and zero liability under the law. These motives are base, but they are understandable. Yet, do they really explain all? Or is there something more sinister afoot?

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We need to add vaccination status to death certificates .

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That would make perfect sense, except the less than trustworthy CDC writes the death cert rules...if you believe they required covid be listed as "cause of death" even though person died "with covid", not "from covid", then it's only logical they would have the "vaccinated" label altered, too. ie: the person got the shot in March, but dies in October from blood clots....since it's over six months since they got the shot, they would be considered "unvaccinated". It's the "long term side effects" that they don't have data on....they sure don't want that data to get in the way of their mandates. One things for sure, they damn sure know the window of opportunity to push shot is closing thanks to reports like Project Veritas....but there's still money on the table.

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It is being done. Many cemeteries will not allow burials of the unvaccinated or a least a clean covid test done in the last 48 hours. One owner quipped that they expect enough burials of the fully vaccinated that a slight loss of business from the above will not affect sales.

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Is it acceptable to vaccinate the deceased? Do they have to wait for both shots and then 14 more days? My questions are equally as absurd as the cemetery requirement. In fact, I'd have to label this one an urban legend worthy of "The Onion."

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You could also label my comment as satire as it was intended. The clue, of course, is that the burial of the dead usually takes place more than three days after the deceased becomes same. A second clue would be the snarky comment about the high death rate among the vaccinated contrary to the official narrative. Thanks for your praise about my writing being worth of publication in "The Onion".

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How do they know the status? Asking the family?

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Yes

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I live in Germany. It is truly incredible how the population has been lied to since early 2020: fear inducing numbers are massively exaggerated (how many people were in intensive care beds last winter), unpleasant data is suppressed (they still refuse to publish suicides for 2020), vaccine side-effect data is under reported because it's apparently much to time consuming for doctors to report. I could go on.

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Doctors in Belgium are forbidden to say anything against vaccination even when it could save a patient's life to NOT get it. Otherwise they loose their licence. Belgian press is forbidden to write anything but a sporadic article, like the deaths in Norway, to keep jabs going. Just terrible. Dad just got his third shot.

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Fellow Belgian resident here: just read the latest weekly bulletin from Sciensano. Among the 2,000 new daily PCR+, roughly half are among non-vaxxed and half among vaxxed. Of course, the non-vaxxed are much more likely to get tested. When you consider the % positivity by symptom status, it suggests vaccines are providing at best 40% protection.

Better would be to see the rates of hospitalisation by vaccination status. But somehow, oddly, Sciensano reports that the hospitals are not obliged to report this data and are not doing so. Convenient to the narrative.

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Hospitalization by vaccine status is reported in my part of the world and it follows a similar Trend to cases overall. Initially the vaccinated enjoyed protection from both infection snd Hospitalization, however both are declining. Infection among vaccinated is declining faster than hospitalization, as reported elsewhere. Currently 40% of case are vaccinated, and 30% of hospitalizations. Our region was closer to start vaccinating the public, but we are quickly on our way to 50%.

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Which country, which "leader" will blink first and admit the obvious? Iceland tried but had to backtrack the same day.

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There was a piece on PBS about the impact of apex species on an environment. If the apex species suffers a change, it impacts the entire downstream ecosystem. I believe that lockdowns and profound changes in behavior by humans over the past 18 months will affect not only our own species but also will have critical downstream effects. It’s not about foxes in your backyard because we’re all WFH🙄. It’s about changes at the ecosystem level. And the medical community is responsible. We will be hobbled by this for years.

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Excellent point. On a less intelligent note, it’s hard to argue that we deserve to be the apex species when displaying such cowardly defeatist behavior! Obviously not followers of Alex and the like, but the rest of the Branch Covidians.

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I mean, my first instinct is to blame vaccines. BUT, I wonder if people in Europe (just like here) were told to avoid drs offices for anything non urgent. How many early cancer cases or heart disease were missed because of the covid stupidity. My own OBGYN postponed my appts twice and I missed my yearly mammogram!!

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I'm avoiding doctors because their reaction to the covid and vaccines has made me hate and fear them.

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I agree, I was suspect of the medical system before Covid, but now trust has dropped to ZERO !!

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Same here. Had a poor doctor as a youngster, who gave way too much meds, finally found my own way, now use a lot of herbal and homeopathic treatment and with very good results. Last year I had a rash and the doctor saw it had been 10 years since my last visit. He wondered if I had gone to another, and I said no and that I just had no need to see a doctor unless I can not find a treatment myself. He agreed the rash was probably a food allergy, and offered to prescribe me antibiotics, which I refused.

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“ He agreed the rash was probably a food allergy, and offered to prescribe me antibiotics”

I’m rolling my eyes so hard I’m going to give myself a migraine. I have multiple food allergies/intolerances. I took me multiple decades to discover and treat them with the help of NON-mainstream practitioners—by changing my diet and non-pharmaceutical treatments. At 52, I’m healthier than when I was in my 20s. When I first sought help from allopathic medicine, as I was taught to do, I was dismissed and made to think it was all in my head.

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Keep that minus sign shined up. Given what's likely to happen in the next few years with likely side effects and bonus government idiocy, you may need it.

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I've had health problems: 2 different cancers and heart arrhythmia's 10-15 years ago. Thankfully, the experiences taught me to be distrustful of established medicine, to question everything and to take care of my own health with diet, exercise and prayer.

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Holistic doctors are the way to go. They don’t only treat symptoms they also address the root cause of issues. I’ve seen their treatment work more times than I can remember.

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Late on a Friday afternoon shortly before Christmas 2020, the UK government quietly published a report admitting over 100,000 people would die prematurely as a result of lockdowns and associated policies. Obviously the timing of the release (the report was dated several weeks earlier) was designed to bury the news. When anyone raised any questions about this, the government just responded "many more people would have died of covid had these measures not been taken". Naturally there was nothing to support this statement. Just a bland affirmation - like so many other bland affirmations.

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I think the entire failed response to Covid is causing All-Cause Mortality to increase ....masking, lock downs, economic loss,medicine in disarray ,,and now CLOT SHOTS !!!

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Flatten the curve became, putting it crudely, "let's take 12 months off."

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That was my first instinct as well, and maybe time will tell. If it starts to be a major trend everywhere maybe some questions will be asked. They can’t keep their head in the sand forever.

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Very timely info. I was just told that since I’m almost 40 I should start getting mammograms. I told the doctor I’d think about it because I have never researched this at all.

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I deleted my above comment based on something I just read on the Twitter. A woman named Pam Long is being harassed for saying her child’s autism is linked to MMR vax. I don’t need any drama or harassment in my life due to comments I make trying to help others.

But, Good luck to you as you research options!!

Search on duck duck go search engine though. Google has blocked a lot of medical info that is holistic in nature. Look for books and other info. It’s out there. Remember many people write articles/publish studies for pharma and the medical mafia that are being paid a lot of money to promote certain things.

If you can though, try to just get an ultrasound instead. You will have to find a family Dr that firmly believes it’s important to protect his/her patients from radiation exposure. It’s not easy to find one but it goes back to what I’ve said on this thread at other times. Question and research all medical procedures. Be your own health advocate.

I recently refused a nuclear stress test as it would expose me to 1500x the amount of radiation that one gets from a chest X-ray. (I was having some heart issues). After the Dr. recommended it, I went home and researched it and when I discovered the amount of radiation I’d be getting, I refused the test. There were other ways to get the info my cardiologist was wanting besides using this test. Nuclear stress tests are one of the most over used diagnostic procedures used. Studies suggest over $100 million is spent each year on unnecessary nuclear stress tests. See Choosing Wisely campaign if interested.

All this to say, we all need to question/research every medical procedure…whether it’s a shot or something else. Medicine is a for profit industry. The more we can stay away from the Dr/hospitals, the better unless of course it’s something life threatening but even then, proceed wisely, seek second opinions, study and learn as much as you can about your health. Blessings.

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When I was 7 years old I started to get strep throat frequently. My grandma (who raised me) would take me for a strep test and put me on antibiotics. But I started having pretty severe allergic reactions to the antibiotics. The doc would try all the different ones that would be effective and my body would have a bad reaction. She didn’t know what to do and started searching for alternatives. She found a Naturopathic doctor in a neighboring state and started a hardcore alternative journey. She always tells me the story of the first time she tried homeopathy for my strep and got up every hour to put those little pellets under my tongue all night long. It worked. I tested negative after a few days. This ND is still my doctor to this day! My kids doc too. I decided not to give my kids any shots when they were born. I felt I was armed with more than just what western medicine had to offer. I am approaching 40 and I’ve never thought about mammograms. I might have just gone for one, not thinking anything of it. It’s been subconsciously drilled into my head my whole life…”ugh, it’s time for my mammogram”, I’ve heard so many woman say. So I’m glad you mentioned it…I will definitely talk to my ND and do my own research. I’m also glad that you’ve been able to find alternatives and make informed decisions. Keep spreading your knowledge. Ps. I despise Google! ;)

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Excellent advice. Thank you.

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Thank you so much for this info.

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Try thermography instead. Mammograms have been shown to induce cancer.

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World War III is a guerrilla information war with no division between military and civilian participation. — Marshall McLuhan,

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I had no idea he said this. Jeez, what a genius. Well, considering we're the resistance, what do we do about it?!

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We resist every chance we get. We vote (even if we think it's not totally free and fair), talk to family, friends, neighbors even if it's hard, we stay on Substack, we use other platforms. We follow people like Alex and spread the information as much as we can. We go old school: fax, snail mail, flyers, letters to the editor. We come up with a color or a button we can wear to identify ourselves. I personally like Benjamin Franklin's cartoon Join or Die showing the snake in 13 sections for the colonies. It took a long time to win our independence from Britain. This will be harder.

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I like that idea of having something to wear to show which side we are on. I’ve seen a few t-shirts but not something I would regularly wear out. Buttons would be perfect!

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Recalling the memory of the oppressed minority compelled to wear a yellow Star of David about 80 years ago, perhaps a yellow coronavirus armband would be appropriate?

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Yes, I realized this shortly after I posted my comment. It’s easy to feel like the minority and it would be nice to identify with like minded people, that’s where my comment stemmed from. I wouldn’t mind wearing a button on my purse to show where I stand. By choice though.

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Famous Woody Allen McLuhan reference. Skip ahead to about 1:30 to get to scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTSmbMm7MDg

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Germany won’t turn back. The government there is more stubborn than most (see history) and they are requiring vax passes to enter practically everything now. I think supermarkets are still excluded. But you even had fools suggesting to wear a yellow pin (not making this up) to openly show you are vaccinated.

It’s as if they don’t take history lessons there. And the press describes the unvaccinated as low income, poorly educated, and mentally unstable individuals. It’s really straight from the Steps to Genocide list. Really scary stuff. They are giving Australia a run for their money.

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Nazis are a fact of life in all nations and at all times. We have them here. All they need is an opening through which to force their way. Germany didn't invent Nazis. We're finding that out now in the US.

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Germany is under heavy Joo guilt trip for one of the biggest lies of history about how many were actually killed in the camps so they have ultra Stockholm Syndrome mixed with ultra extortion.

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The problem with officials using Enron accounting is that at some point someone tries to reconcile the figures so it matches the claims & the fraud is laid bare. Are we there yet?

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A few analysts who read Enron's reports with care say that it was all there, in B&W, often in fine print footnotes but there nonetheless.

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True but the devil is in the details and fraud is generally burred in the footnotes and that's true for legislation loopholes too. It's as much of a given as lint in your pockets. I spent the Reagan years as a high tech Beltway Bandit and there was little that was prized more as a job skill than a talent for manipulating numbers and wording. This isn't a secret in Washington but when the big money is applied to deception, little talent or time is dedicated to exposing the frauds.

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For 24+ years I edited and largely rewrote proposals in DC so I know whereof you speak. From 2007-2015 the level of BS was beyond absurd--just word salad with a cost proposal attached. Then I happily retired, quite early too. One of my personal heroes is Harry Markopolos, who exposed Madoff and believes that white collar criminals should be vigorously prosecuted because the harm they cause is systemic, enduring, and profound. Yet, here we are, as fraud, negligence, cupidity, hubris, incompetence, and delusion amalgamate into a totalitarian hellscape of rapine and ruin, like the greatest potlatch of all time.

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He was a hero.

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It almost goes without saying that all fingers point to the "vaccine." But I thought I'd say it anyway.

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I am German. The increase in deaths is not in the old people, but in starts with teenagers. If you search for the German translation of "suddenly and unexpected" on Google, you can find a noticeable increase in results for obituaries this year compared to last. On Twitter, there are for instance threads, where people collect all the newspaper mentions of soccer players, who have a heart attack on the field.

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Antibody dependent enhancement, as suggested by several doctors?

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I know as much about medicine as most people here (e.g. I have one each high school and junior college biology courses 😁) so with that disclaimer: ADE is a popular term bandied about in places like this. Yet it was a known problem that the vax developers would have been aware of. There are other vaccine adverse effects that could be trouble. Malone discusses them on some of his videos. Based on what is making our "alternative" news on sites like this, I would bet the excess deaths are due to depressed immune system, damage to heart and other organs, and such. You don't need to have a MD to know that there are numerous options for the body to sicken and die, none of which require an infectious pathogen.

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On an even gloomier note, the CDC says that on Oct. 8 — with 76.4 percent of those 12 or older having at least one shot — there were 2,196 Covid deaths. On Oct. 8, 2020 there were 681 Covid deaths.

If it needs to be pointed out, nobody was vaccinated in 2020.

https://billlawrenceonline.com/vitamin-d-insufficiency-may/

And to update it: On Oct. 13, the CDC claims 1,713 Covid deaths. On Oct. 13, 2020 there were 741.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailydeaths

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Also, Vit D, if created by exposure to the sun, would also mean getting FRESH air and likely some exercise--all of which is very helpful for the immune system. Of course in the dead of winter in most areas, going outside isn't feasible except in the southern states (of which I am blessed to live).

Dr. Shiva went into the how's and wherefore's on Vit D's ability to destroy the enemies of your immune system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f7NxpAreQs&ab_channel=Dr.SHIVAAyyadurai%2CMITPhD

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Vitamin D has not been discussed nearly enough throughout this whole episode.

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I have always suspected the jab and Covid policies such as Cuomo's were to reduce the costs of medicare and retirements.

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It's funny how every previous major vaccination campaign, polio,measles, mumps,smallpox and several others the "experts" site the decline in cases due to the role out of the vaccines. However,no such claim can be made with Covid 19, so it's easier to blame the un-vaxxed than accept failure !!

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The success attributed to those vaccines was purely coincidental since their corresponding outbreaks had waned naturally (improved hygiene) before inoculation began. Read Dissolving Illusions. You will recognize the script we are being force fed.

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This was more helpful to me--just the numbers of new deaths (all the other info gets confusing to me): https://covidtracking.com/data/national/deaths And thank you for the heads up.

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If this excess mortality is vaccine driven, the mandates/diktats/requirements for inoculations will increase, otherwise those who pushed the treatment (and their allies in the media and schools and corporate world) will have to face the repercussions of their actions. We are in for an interesting couple of years going forward.

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It *IS* due to the killshots (not a vaccine.) I strongly encourage you to get on to twitter if you are not and follow @RWMaloneMD (Dr. Robert Malone) and see yourself, since he is considered the main inventor of the mRNA shots (which he makes clear they are *NOT* vaccines but Gene "Therapy") and is making clear the excess mortality is indeed due to the fact the spike protein that is generated by the immunse system via the modified mRNA, is toxic and always killed the test animals, which is HUGE because we have become the test animals.

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As Mike Yeadon points out, there must be a point in time when the Pharma executives, their boards, public health officials, doctors, hospital system executives, pandering government idiots & corporate interests who pushed everyone to get the experimental gene therapy must be arrested and put on trial for murder. As with the Nazi regime after World War II, this is the only way to assure this madness doesn't happen to our grand-children. They have all gone all-in on satanic lunacy. There must be an equally aggressive reaction. Save all of your documents, guys.

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You probably inadvertently touched on a key point: it IS happening to the grandchildren -- of the 1940s. People so quickly forget the lessons of history (rarely is it even taught) that they cannot see any correlation between "Nazi" and other strong-arm government actor. They believe in the magic of words. It is inconceivable to them that someone of their own nation, now "Woke" or "Progressive," could decay into something that thinks and acts indistinguishable from tyranny.

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body counts are tools for politicians

they stopped the covid body count after the late ballot counts were certified.

the covid body count took care of trump.

now the vaccine count will 'take care' of the republic.

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So the people pushing the depopulation conspiracy... were right?

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Not a conspiracy, well documented on the Internet from their own mouths and writings.

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World Economic Forum hides nothing on their website...it's all there!

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Yeah it's more like an IQ test. First they tell you they want to slow population growth, and do it through vaccines. Next they tell you about a super scary virus you need to take a vaccine for.

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So it is a conspiracy

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There are "conspiracies" going back well over a century in Europe and America, perhaps worldwide. Many of these deal with various aspects of the political, social, economic systems of various nations. There are, allegedly, major distortions in the "generally accepted" versions of major historical events. Many historians and other specialist writers have been "unpersoned" over the decades (and you thought being "cancelled" was fairly new!!!) -- not necessarily disappeared like in a dictatorship, but careers ruined, books banned, etc. Even in several supposed "free" nations, writing or even voicing opinions about certain topics can get you literally put into prison. Yes, there are conspiracies. But perhaps, the most successful ones are apparent to anyone who dares to look behind the curtains.

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I forgot my quotation marks...

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This kind of startling fact used to be the basis of intense research in American universities in the old days. Now they are merely fodder for speculation among conspiracy theorists and another item to be suppressed by the censorious media and left wing Stasi-inspired governments. The other great casualty of Covid (other than people) is the scientific thinking process in America. We are all divided up into either conspiracy nuts who run helter-skelter with crazy theories, or Gestapo-like censors who want to shut our eyes and ears to facts.

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That's not all true about the comparison of conspiracists having crazy theories since a minority of them due, not all of them.

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Just got back from lunch-rally, in Huntsville, AL. Lots and lots of NASA and army Army workers together with federal contractors who are saying, no. Most have to file their religious or medical objection by this week. Objections go to a "star court" secret chamber where you can't know who is judging you. Word is that there will be few, if any, exceptions granted. Rubber-stamped: "DENIED". Everyone is familiar with filing EEOC complaints. EEOC is going to be flooded with complaints.

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Took my 89 yr old mom for annual checkup today; was sure the doc was having her take a booster (Pfizer, she was vaxxed in Feb). I was pleasantly surprised, actually a bit shocked, that he said not necessary (yet). He instead included an antibody test with the bloodwork and said let's see what the levels are; if good then no booster. Of course its her choice and she's expressed she doesn't want it. No pressure from the Doc which we didn't expect. Let's see what happens when he gets the bloodwork results.

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Now I see why they’re so desperate to get rid of the control group (children)

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On the Berenson Rogan podcast at the end, they both agreed everyone will eventually get covid. These vaccines are best described as a therapeutic that may offer short term protection.

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I still have to listen to it, but it’s not even therapeutic as far as I’m concerned.

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I didn’t listen to all of it but can anyone confirm whether joe got the jab?

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Joe said he was NOT injected.

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It appears to kill off the immune system, so that short term protection is better described as over stimulating the immune response, after which natural immunity is trashed. For how long nobody can say.

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And what happens when you do that over & over & over again?

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What is covid though? The symptoms are pretty mild in most people. It's like a cold or a flu. And look at the Diamond Princess. Floating petri dish. I think only 40% of people on that ship actually got covid-19. That implies there is cross immunity from other covid infections.

Will everyone get it? I don't think so based on the Diamond Princess data, but even if so, most will have a mild illness. Why are we still freaking out over mild illness?

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Alex, any explanation for the nearly 5x increase (by CDC data) in the US of deaths categorized as “Signs, Symptoms, and abnormal clinical and laboratory findings not elsewhere classified”? It went from an average of about 2.8k/month in 2020 to a very rapid increase post-vaccination dates (Dec 2020 until now) where it’s now averaging around 14.5k/month. Why? What are these people dying from and being lumped into a sort of misc bin for categorization purposes? Is something being hidden?

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This was Pence and Trump's virus response: make a vaxx asafp. Moonshot optics, fastest ever. Little did they know that many like Moderna were in on the scam, and Pfizer had really efficient spies. They uncritically took the Chinese-provided viral code complete with furin cleavage site and slapped it into human untested vectors, showed that a ridiculously small number of people tested didn't die TODAY (mostly), got their immunities from legal action, and billions on top of that. Now they are coming back around for another bite at the apple of "variant management boosters" for a few billion more. Nuremberg is coming for these people. It is not coming fast enough.

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Luigi Warren, the mRNA biologist whose work with Derek Rossi lead to the Moderna vax, is one of the most outspoken critics and says he would never, ever get any of these Covid vaccines. He’s quite funny and snarky on Twitter and gets put in Twitter jail sometimes.

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Cool. I encourage all to review the Moderna story "yarn-on-corkboard" as given by Gato Malo: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/were-some-folks-a-little-too-prepared and his Daszak supervillain origin story in which the early easy access afforded Moderna was sussy at best: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/peter-daszak-supervillain-origin

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Could it be that the vax is causing people's immune systems to be compromised, thus more susceptible to viruses? Maybe something like: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7131326/ ?

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This is my thought as well…the vax crushed our own immune system and If something may have been brewing, that would certainly bring it to the forefront

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Exactly and this is more well established more than ever if you are on twitter following high level outspoken doctor Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD who is considered the main inventor of the mRNA tech and 99.5% of MSM media HATES HIM for how much he is exposing.

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yep, love him!

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What could’ve happened this year that is likely driving the excess non-Covid mortality rate? I think the answer might be Squid Game?

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Yea squid... but see Georgia Guidestones. This is the overall agenda by the NWO.

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Covid has a 99.7% survival across all ages groups. Average age of covid death in the USA is 78 with an average of 4 comorbidities. Imagine if the MSM starting reporting to the sheep that they have been duped. Sad.

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They are trying to kill people with the death jab. Goal is to reduce population by 90%. Be safe everyone. End times are near.

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Urge reading Conservative Treehouse detailed explanation for the agenda behind weaponized virus. Vax deaths & injuries don’t matter…full compliance is the end game. Also, After Skool YouTube channel..excellent animated series on mass psychosis. That end result is genocide. As Andy Andrews explained in “How to kill 11 million people” —you lie to them.

Finally. Biden admin used covid relief funds for compliance at every level of government & private industry. Hospitals & schools…the caveat is the entity must refund the money if they don’t achieve vax, mask compliance.

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If you don't agree with CTH take they ban you from posting. I was banned for continually pointing out President Trump continued pushing of the dangerous Jabs that don't work. Also his weak response to the mandates that many of his supporters are being terminated for not taking the Jabs. The Sundance character (who is he?) pushes the Dr. Malone types that are in favor of the Jabs to 65+ or at risk. He never posts anything from the Plandemic side (for example Dr Fuellmich Plandemic Case). Again the CTH is all about conforming to their take on the Virus and Jabs.

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CTH bans poster that don't agree with their take on the Jabs. I was removed for attacking President Trump's continue pushing of the dangerous Jabs that don't work. The CTH backs Dr. Malone types. Never mentions Dr. Fuellmich (Lawyer) who is building a case against this Plandemic.

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I find it fascinating that the data from other countries is more reliable, certainly more accessible, than in the U.S. I suspect one would find higher all cause morality here as well. Since the health authorities/government/medical establishment/hospitals/media are operating as a monolith, and will not admit of a single bit of information that is not laundered through their tainted premises, it is always difficult to document as a trend what one might observe on one's own. A relative of my wife's-"fully vaccinated," died after contracting the Thing. He had a heart attack while fighting it. He had many comorbidities and waited a long time before seeking treatment. His breathing had improved, but he suddenly died. Of course, I have no way of knowing what they did to him in the hospital, but his cardiac death makes me think the vaccine killed him. A woman I've known since 1991 died suddenly a few weeks ago. We had had an exchange about vaccines about 6 weeks ago as we stood on the street in front of her house. She told me she was healthy. Of course, people in their 70's die of all sorts of things, but I know she was vaxxed and I'm suspicious. I am trying to find out the cause of death. Beyond the blood clots that Sucharit Bhakdi warned the EMA about and the microscopic clots that Dr, Charles Hoffe found (d dimer test) in his just-vaxxed patients, there is also Dr. Nathan Thompson's (Yorkville, IL) findings. All he did was do a blood panel for his vaxxed patients' immune system. https://rumble.com/vnpsv9-immune-system-testing-prepost-jab.html The government will never recognize any of this because simple tests are revealing horrors, as are doctors who examine vaxxed blood under a microscope and vaccine vial contents under a microscope. No, the censors can't hide the truth, but they can make it hard to see.

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Alex, I have followed you since March 2020 (and in April 2020 I bought a copy of all of your books as a token of gratitude for you reporting). Serious question -- why your silence on the numerous Ivermectin studies? https://ivmmeta.com/ .... I have to assume an investigative reporter of your caliber is well aware of them. If you feel the studies carry little or no weight, I and your other followers would appreciate your thinking on why that is so.

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He addressed this briefly in the Joe Rogan interview. I got the impression that he isn't convinced that IVM has been proven effective at the dosages they are being prescribed for COVID currently. His position was basically that we should insist on pristine evidence about the injections, and we should do the same for IVM. I thought it was an honest position even if I don't personally agree with it. Most of the studies seem to be consistent that IVM shortens the time to viral clearance. Even if that is all that it does, it makes sense to me to use it given how safe it is.

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Since few, if any, statistics coming from "main street media channels" and the FDA/CDC have been reliable, we really will never know how many contacted covid (true cases), how many actually directly died from covid, how many died from complications other than covid, or how many have died from other causes with similar symptoms to covid. This is all by design...to create confusion and fear and desperation. And firmly to create panic causing people to rush out and get a "pretend" life saving mRNA injection or other type of injection.

I have no doubt that 100,000's of thousands have been directly murdered by these horrid injections. Because the original mRNA trials were purposely limited, not nearly long enough and lacked specific data, we do not know their true make-up or intentions or how they will affect anyone over the long term...months and years. Never mind that the true efficacy of these injections (they are not anything close to being vaccines) is about 1%.

We are about to discover, in a very bad way, the true purpose of these kill shots as millions will be rendered incapacitated to some degree or outright murdered ( many likely experiencing ADE events). With no responsibility for the death and debilitation they are causing, big pharma will continue unabated to push their extreme poison mRNA injection protocols on every living human. In the future, as millions die or are severely affected by these injections, there will be NO traceback to big pharma. All deaths and maiming will be blamed on something else. Thus the charade will continue.

The death and maiming stats can easily be multiplied by a factor of 10 and possibly much more than that. Pharma, the CDC, FDA, AMA, TV news and the medical mafia will do all they can to distort and evade the truth. Do not get any boosters since they will be nothing more than the same crap you got before. There have been no serious trials for boosters and thus they cannot be trusted to do anything other than to speed up your demise and satisfy the demands of gates and fauci that us peons be killed off.

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The second they vaccinated the control group… You had to know there was something extremely nefarious going on. They literally do not want there to be a control group. Hence all the mandates.

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And all the taxpayer money that went first in the development, then in the buying of these already paid for meds. Now I read the government is buying the pills, that probably work just as poorly. Make them for 18 bucks then sell them to the government, who paid for the making, for 700 a dose... taxpayers wake up.

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I would suggest watching this video if haven't already. In my opinion Dr. Fuellmich (a lawyer) has been correct from the start of this Plandemic. Dr. Martin has all the nasty history regarding the Virus and Jabs. Neither are novel.

https://brandnewtube.com/v/kje7hq

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WOW! Thank you! This is a must see. I hope Alex comments.

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This Dr. Fuellmich latest update. You may want to take a look. He is still building his case. https://brandnewtube.com/v/8QNXdQ

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I found that Dr. Fuellmich is avoided by by people that promote the Virus as some great killer. Have to remember the Virus is creating money by just writing or talking about it. Dr. Fuellmich (a lawyer) sees it as a Plandemic. Dr. Martin has been following this show for 20 + years. They tried this before. Nothing is novel. It's Jab waiting for a Virus event.

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On the contrary: they claimed it would have been unethical to deny the jabs once they were proven safe and effective. They unblinded the control group, offered the jab and most accepted. Apparently the thought never occurred that it might have been better to maintain a control group, as (I assume) participation was completely voluntary. What would be unethical in asking a group of test subjects to continue in the group, and to not take the jab on their own?

Now, ethics and morality are whatever an individual or a group defines them to be. But at least from my point of view, an equally valid argument can be made that it is immoral to cancel a control group. At the very least, that is a violation of long-standing medical testing standards. Come to think of it, we seem to have had an awful lot of that sort of thing these past two years or so....

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You enter a trial knowing your risks of either taking or not taking whatever the trial is set up to test.

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That is another great point.

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Great post! This sums it all up. It's a Plandemic!

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I think the whole situation is weighing on us. Normally an upbeat person I also went in a depressing time when friends stopped visiting. Luckily I have animals, but I guess lots of people just die for loneliness. And one can also die from anxiety, worry, uncertainty. I wonder if numbers of suicides might have gone up, too.

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You are right, and yes here in Toronto, Canada, suicides have went up quite a bit, as well as alcoholism, drug overdose and other types of death that fall into "deaths of despair."

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That is the right title, deaths of despair. I read an article a while ago, about people in the UK who were found dead after days, even weeks, because they were alone in their houses and no one checked on them. Luckily, we have a post person who will come and check if you do not empty your mail box one day.

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Yes it continues to increase, glad you know about this. Good thing for a post person to come check, which means there are still those who have some upbringing of loving their neighbour.

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Can't fudge All-Cause Mortality...it encompasses everything!!

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True, if they actually encompass everything.

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The FDA should be taking not before they approve anything with Vaccine trial there is enough credible data to put an end to these Vaccine trials to continue .

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Funny, I resist the theory that the Chi-com vaccine is a designed death shot. Not sure how long I can resist that theory.

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Planned?

Eugyppius has an interesting outlook that all this began much sooner than the Fall of 2019.

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/the-chinese-outbreak-began-in-spring

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It is a killshot, no doubt, hence why vaccines and similar injections are known as silent weapons for quiet wars and quiet weapons for silent wars.

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It might be interesting to note that the Southern Nevada Health District started reporting weekly statistics on breakthrough cases and hospitalizations and deaths. When the numbers started spiking, they "changed their methodology." Then they started reporting lower deaths in vaccinated people though cases were still rising. Then they mysteriously stopped reporting breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths at all. The last report we got was August 26. But they were still reporting breakthrough cases. But now they stopped reporting that. The last report on breakthrough cases was September 30. They are claiming to have a "new methodology" again that is delaying the reports. Call me cynical but I suspect that they would still be reporting all this data IF it showed positive results for the vaccine. I am definitely in the category of not trusting anyone in our institutions.

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Yep. Washington state did this with hospital capacity. We used to have a nice graph of total beds compared to occupied beds. But when our capacity started falling because of the stupid mandate, the data got 'moved' and now it only shows an overall percentage of beds taken.

When real data becomes unfavorable, they simply hide it. That's how we know this isn't about the virus.

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We are way past the point of giving any credibility to official numbers, pronouncements and promises. Not to worry, they will change their "methodology" until at last the desired result will appear. Experts are working on it!

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