And sooner or later, the people making them are going to have to admit the truth - just like they did with masks and school closures and travel bans and everything else.
Even without adjusting for health status and age, it's statistical malfeasance to treat people within 5 weeks of getting their first shot as "unvaccinated" - especially when the majority of issues occur within the first couple of weeks of getting jabbed.
Even if both numbers were 90% in vaccinated and unvaccinated, by treating the vaccinated in a certain timeframe as unvaccinated - it will always skew the numbers to make it look like the vaccine works.
This aberration is a double distortion. Two 5 and 5 baseball teams play each other one game. The winner is guaranteed to go to 6 and 5, the loser to 5 and 6. Now yes, when infections are up to three times as likely to occur in that period, this double shift of calling the vaccine caused increased likelihood of infection, a unvaccinated infection, is very very large. Also, in many areas the pure percentage of infected, hospitalized and dead, per 100 k vaccinated to per 100k unvaccinated, demonstrates that the vaccines are making it wore, not better, and not just worse for the first five weeks post jab one, but worse continuously except for a very small window of time no more then two months long
and only in a few age categories
and only if you ignore the incorrect adjustment for the first five weeks post vaccine one
and only if you ignore all cause morbidity and mortality.
and only if you ignore demographic factors
Sp Juan, Alex does not have a thick head, and please look deeper.
Thank you for this reply I was going to spell it out but could not do better! Actually I find it hard to believe that the last paragraph of the initial critique could be made in this context. Thanks
Not to mention the health bias of the vaccinated. Effectively all of those that are at risk but unvaxxed are unvaxxed for a reason at this point. It is why vax rate falls off among >80 cohort.
I think it is important you spend the time to articulate this better. I have had the same thought as Juan. My rationale has been: 1 vax'd extremely healthy 40 year old vs. 1 unvax'd extremely healthy 40 year old... I do not believe the net benefit to being vax'd is worth the punitive government action to compel such action.
Not worth the risk of terrible side effects either. Just in my own small circle of family, friends and neighbors I have seen deaths and life threatening illnesses happen to healthy people who took the shots. Of maybe 8 such, only one reported to VAERS so I'm thinking Steve Kirsch is right about the actual risk being much greater than claimed.
So, is this how your earn money....by posting this in discussions totally unrelated to your pitch??? And you think that this is effective?? Come on guys, take this down.
If Pharma has a new expensive drug to sell they get the FDA to change the 'numbers' to show you now have High Blood Pressure, your obese, your BS is to high. They changed the obese numbers under Obama, by measuring the neck size of 6'5'' body builders, truckers with big bodies/bones, it forced many truckers into weight loss surgery they didn't need at 200-250 lbs. Which is a normal weight before the number's change. Now my BIL is 6'4" weighed 400 lbs larged boned, was put on a big box of pills, finally had a slow weght loss surgery, now down to 210, has large bones, but looks fantastic, and Pharma lost a customer. It didn't come without side effects either. He has a hard time eating/digesting food. It makes a 5 ft gal like me Obese at 130 lbs. and sick all the time at 110 lbs.
I don’t always follow the reasoning not because it’s unreasonable but my tiny brain begins to spin and well, then comes nausea again something I can’t handle. Even so if my level of reasoning is correct then if 90% of the population is “vaxed” and 75% of those people die, I think the argument is more along the line of.....didn’t after the jab proved ineffective at preventing COVID-19 it was supposed to, and when that was proven false it was sold as preventative to serious illness and hospitalization....again false. Then at least it will prevent death but these numbers show once again false. Isn’t this the meat and potatoes individual’s line?
This months job report shows some of Covid's effect, but condidering the Left Wing source some Economist needs to look into it. These were laid off workers returning to work #1, many chose the Jab. No mention of Blue State/county reports. If I'm going by my grocery store's empty shelves, 2 checkers instead of 6 Fri-Sunday, 1 Full Time stocker, the checkers were working in stock, the mean age of the Shop for you, people were 18-21. And add in my Eldest soon to be 51 report on the No Workers, can't pass drug screens, that had him working 92 hrs Christmas week, the now shorter hours as closure time is now 6 pm, same for Walmart. It impacts how you read the Jobs report. MARKET REPORT/COVID/MONKEY BUSINESS SLATE IS A LEFT WING NEWS. Needs more info.https://slate.com/business/2022/02/jobs-report-2021-economy-wrong-explained.html
Control here as well as well as ALL of my immediate family approx 10 of us including grandparents!! All have had covid and got over it using proper protocol!! Ivermectin Vit D Vit C and Zinc and quercetin and NAC.
You will see that in general, you would wait two weeks or more after receiving most vaccinations -- including the non-mRNA Covid-19 jabs. So technically, if you are in the < 14 days window, you are not supposed to donate.
Blood tested at blood banks earlier on in pandemic showed evidence of Covid dating to august 2019 unknowingly. I read it somewhere back in Spring of 2020
Because extensive research indicates that blood returns to pre vax normal after 14 days. Nothing potentially harmful floating around, right? I mean, 14 days is science based, right? Right?
Someone locally told me he donated and was asked no questions about vax status. I am “pure” and happily donating this Friday. Lots of places in desperate need for blood! My sister’s
Hospital in Cali ran out of blood the other night.
In Italy unvaccinated blood donors are exempt from greenpass rules to give blood, blood supply is running low and there have been coagulation problems with vaxed blood
Ahhh but have you watched the videos coming out of Canada? I’m not very good with Reposting Twitter (newbie there) feeds but the truckers voices and horns are being heard. I feel for the poor downtown Ottawans who can’t sleep but this is bigger than that. It’s pretty amazing.
After the mRNA injections went through their fake trials, the drug companies gave them a 95% success or efficacy rating. We now see the true rating, the ARR or absolute risk reduction rating which was about 1% coming into reality time and time again.
It was in developing any symptoms with a positive test. Nobody died during the trials of/with covid, there were a few hospitalizations. A subject had to report to his trial doctor if they developed any symptoms. After this the doctor decided IF they take a swab test. No routine swab tests were performed, no serological test before or after. You can find a lot of details on BMJ or in the original papers, quite easy to read.
Problem is the numbers in the trials were so small, that the results are barely statistically significant. But more people did die in the treatment group and the difference was getting larger from 2 months to 6 months, but was not statistically significant. If you did a linear regression and the pattern stayed the same, it would have been significant by the 3 year mark when the trials were supposed to end. Even more damning, there were 4 more cardiac related deaths in the treatment group.
actually it was 0.1%, if that.. it was something like 15/15000 from the vaccinated group got sick and 150/15000 from the control group. They used RR as 15 is around 5% of 150 or so(my numbers arent exact but they were close to this). Yet ARR is insanely small, because they purposefully selected least likely to get severe reactions from the jabs on purpose! Zero people died in the control group too
Zero died in the control group yes, but in the jabbed group a few died. ( cant remember the number) just not from Corvid. I think it was cardio issues, and we all just know that the vaccines don't affect the heart or vascular health at all right?
hah, yeah it's insane how corrupt our medical system is.. the companies get to analyze their own data and manipulate it to lie about people getting hurt from their own product.. if anything this country needs to demand breaking up the conflict of interest of the fda/cdc and big pharma, there should be no money involved /passed between them
exactly. when you see the real numbers from the trials. and see how they calculated that 95% it's wildly misleading. the BMJ (Doshi?) did a great article on all this very early. very very early. what a dependent media fail. 0 press from what i recall.
No. The true rating against infection is clearly negative. ARR or no ARR, these vaccines have a negative efficiency rating against infection. The exact thing the fake trials pretended to be at 95%. If negative efficiency against death can still be debated, negative efficiency against infection is clearly visible based on official data from multiple countries. The trials were a joke.
I believe you are correct. I don't have a cite, but I believe I've seen that claim that most severe reactions/deaths with vaccines (not just the mRNA jabs) happen within two weeks, in fact most happen soon after the injection and incidence drops off quickly.
Relevant to the mRNA abominations, though: Counting a person as not considered "vaccinated" until two weeks after the SECOND dos (?) is just another of the inexcusable sleights of hand of the current regime. I can understand this terminology for claims of efficacy. It is utter deviousness to claim someone sick or dead after two shots but < 14 days afterwards was "unvaccinated." As such, the vaccines could not possibly have been a cause, using their acid-trip reasoning!
Actually, no one is vaccinated. No matter when you had the shot, which shot, how many shots, and how long you have waited - NO ONE IS VACCINATED because it ain't a vaccine!!!
I always hear that claim but if some gets sick 1 month, 2 months, 5 months after the vaccine how would that event ever be recorded? Would any doctor say your health condition was correlated with a vaccine taken 3 months ago? Not in this system it wouldn't. Who is doing large scale disease/vaccine correlation studies? The same people who got rid of the control groups after the original trials? I think unless you keel over quickly an adverse event won't ever be recorded. (until you get into overall higher death rates much later) That is why the shortest term events get picked up and the claim that "most severe reactions happen in the first two weeks" is made. Seek and ye shall find.....Don't seek and the vaccines are friggin awesome!!
"Who is doing large scale disease/vaccine correlation studies?"
Exactly! By now...
we should have exact and known causes of ALL common VAERS reports, via autopsies and studies.
we should have EXACT numbers and percentages of all cause mortality and morbidity for EVERY kind of illness, vaccinated verse unvaccinated, numbering in the 10s of millions.
we should have this broken down perfectly in to common demographics.
we should have lots of people in jail for life, as a minimum.
As with Watergate: follow the money. As Goldman Sachs pointed out in an investment research note to their top clients, selling a drug that makes people well is not a very good business model, there are trillions of dollars at stake ensuring that people get more and more unwell. This is as plain as day: why would "government health people" not go full bore telling people to exercise and lose weight? Given the 1:1 relationship between Covid mortality and obesity?
in many ways like the many years it took to firmly establish that tobacco use is related to increased cancer. it was DECADES that the industry was able, in court, to claim there was no clear evidence of a causal relationship. it will be the same with the shots.
Also what they did to people telling them fat made you fat. Then everyone turned to sugar and chemicals. There are so many things like this and obviously scientists were out there that knew the truth. But no real journalism happened. Just the mainstream narrative. So infuriating!
That’s likely what is responsible for the 2021 massive spikes of excess deaths reported in country after country. However it’s not getting mainstream press, so we can guess how the government will characterize it once it spills into the news.
I keep thinking this is two weeks after the shot. But it’s really after the second shot and there is a pause in between. That’s even worse. Wow. So obviously criminal.
I dont know where you saw the claim but the data not opinion from Denmark, UK, Scotland, Israel and now the US clearly indicates that the jab causes your current issues to fast forward as you would expect from a damaged immune system. It doesnt go away after 2 weeks! Hence the rise in all cause mortality and recently raised in a senate hearing in US as 40% over there! This refers to mRNA not proper vaccines!!
The two week rule is only used for evaluating efficacy. It is not used for evaluating safety. If you have a serious adverse event one day after vaccination, then the vaccine is certainly a possible cause, and nothing about the CDCs methodology in evaluating safety rules that out
"I consider it completely unimportant who in the country will be vaccinated, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the Shots, and how."
Exactly, the effect of this on the statistics is huge, because it inflates the "unvaccinated in hospital" figure with people that belong in the "in hospital from the vaccine" figure, the latter being ridiculously understated in any event due to the unwillingness to report to VAERS for fear of offending the Pharmaceutical industry. So it has a double whammy effect which I would think must be even bigger than the failure to take into account the health status of elderly unvaccinated.
i liked the good old days when the vaccine stopped infection, stopped transmission, stopped you from dying and getting real sick. it was 95% effective at that! or most of that. or some of that. and now look what all this real world data and exposes have done to that 95% effective vaccine. it's a shame.
if this was the boy who cried wolf the boy would be on his 10th round of fooling the villagers. when a source lies this many times you stop listening to them. sorry CDC, Fauci, Gates, you blew it. i hope the wolf doesn't eat you.
If you dig deeper, you'll find that what we believe about traditional vaccines isn't true either. Dr. Suzanne Humprhies administered thousands of vaccines, then 3 of her ill patients took a sharp turn for the worse after a flu vaccine, and THEN she began to research vaccines. Dissolving Illusions is the result:
You shouldn't adjust by both health status and age. Only health status with the understanding that whatever adjustment made will not account for idiosyncratic differences. Adjusting for age as well will bias the measurement
I did not know this. So for vaxx vs. unvaxxed measurements they are counting a person 5+ weeks out from their first jab of Pfizer or Moderna as vaccinated? I thought you had to be 2 weeks out of being double jabbed to be considered vaccinated. For J&J I thought it was 2 weeks out from the single shot regimen.
No, you're right. I was generalizing for the Pfizer (3 weeks) and Moderna (3-4 weeks) time span between the 1st and 2nd shot. From the 2nd shot, 2 weeks.
OK, gotcha. I think you have to be 2 weeks out from your first jab to be considered partially vaccinated for the sources that track that as a category.
Alex, I am doctor living in NSW. Many have expressed doubts about the total number of vaccinated in New South Wales. The real figure is probably 70-80%.
From the start, the ICU doctors I speak with have said the Covid affects the the vaccinated and unvaccinated equally.
I'm no doctor but I can tell you that here in New Zealand where it is officially touted that vax rates are up over 90 percent, our regional health boards are on record as saying that this percentage estimate is derived from anyone who has interacted with the health system in the last 12 months. Ridiculously problematic. That means all the people that are relatively healthy and don't go for checkups annually are not factored into our national vax percentages. One might presume this 'unseen' part of the population may have a high non vax rate as they will be healthier generally and see less benefit in the vax. This could drastically alter the true percentage of vaxed in our country. Chicanery everywhere you look!
Wow - Nick. I'm not sure that this is also happening in Australia. But I havn't consulted a physician in almost 3 years and am unvaccinated - so would be amongst those actually uncounted, if that was the criterion. Husband and I have followed the FLCCC prophylactic protocol for the last year.
Yup. They claim its now rich data cause info on age race etc is there. But what good is that if its unreliable when you claim you need this magical 90 percent mark. It's crazy you can get at a drive thru and so there's no simple record taken down and collated nationally. Here's a very interesting vid on the vax in nz. Please share...https://www.bitchute.com/video/dASUoQ92PTbD/
While several countries have stopped jabbing under 30, some have stopped completely, most won't vaxx the children because they are not at risk, the US and a few others keep on running the line. Now 600 million useless masks are being bought by taxpayer money, and quick tests that would have been excellent 2 years ago, they were ready in April or May of 2020. But then the government wanted the PCR kit, which is no test.
Today I visited with another needlle happy friend. To my surprise Kennedy's book lay on the bench, with a marker about half way... everyone will know soon now. See if anyone can get that man unthroned.
Masks are completely unnecessary outdoors unless for first responders or another person who will be up close and personal with strangers. The only exception being if a person is in an extremely crowded situation. But the N95 masks are the only masks that are even reasonably effective indoors. Ultimately, masks are severely limited in their efficacy.
Yes, that's what I understood from that comment too. For people sick enough to be in ICU with Covid it doesn't matter whether they were vaccinated or not, the vaccines are not making any difference.
All the Fake clinical trials by Pfizer and Moderna,et al, had Absolute effectiveness of 1.2% or less. So given the large populations vaccinated vs the small clinical trials,the end effect of vaccination to prevent covid approaches Zero. The "vaccines " have had Zero effect on the trajectory of this Virus. Only dangerous Side Effects in the Jabbed.
This level of effect of the shots has varied according to which variant is being considered. Omicron seems to exhibit the highest percentage of breakthrough infection so far. Whether that is surpassed by BA.2 or some future variant remains to be seen.
A doctor in a large hospital in Belgium said on local TV in October, that all the covid patients in the hospital were vaccinated. None unvaccinated. That means something. It is not statistically right, but Belgium was at that time somewhere between 75 and 80% vaccinated.
If I am not mistaken the UK data shows a similar trend. I suspect the differences we are seeing in the data between western countries has more to do with how efficient their respective 'roll outs' were and timing of same, and the accuracy of their data collection.
Obviously something very important to our ruling class of tin pot dictators, as they want this substance in every body worldwide. Clearly it has nothing to do with improving health, freedom or quality of life.
That is the million-dollar question. Is it a simple control issue, or is there something else behind it? Because it obviously has nothing to do with altruism. That is never forced.
Sorry, can you be more specific in your question? Are you being rhetorical or asking a question? Just want to make sure. If rhetorical, right. If question, Dr Malone’s substack has great answers. And of all the articles I’ve ever read on this whole mess scientifically I think this is one of the best:
It is not rhetorical, but as many issues facing us now, the answers are not clear and are not being provided by the opaque politicians attempting to force a myriad of bad ideas upon us, or by their elitist backers who hold the true power behind the curtain. Interesting article, but that is just a piece of evidence leading toward the confusion culminating in the original question. A follow-up question, how does forcing everyone to get this shot fit into the goals of the Great Reset? Some have postulated the idea it is to cull the numbers of humanity. While I do not fully endorse this theory, neither would I argue against it. Has it saved more lives than it has taken? And if so, will that still be true five or ten years from now?
I think that’s easy. The whole thing was orchestrated. Planned. Watch Event, what is it called Event 201 from end of 2019. Check out twitter comments from our opposers. They’ve brainwashed the masses. I don’t think it’s as many as they want us to think it is but they still got a huge number to believe AND to PROPAGATE the lies. Some may be shills, trolls. But many actually believe the lies and try to spread them like evangelists.
I’m in the appt desk of a Drs ofc, I had a lady tell me it was the unvaxxed causing the variants. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m realistic, I don’t 100 percent disagree with her just maybe 75 percent. Flu can mutate in a year or less , why can’t c19? and flu vax uptake is not as much as c19 in some countries. Viruses, if real ....
(To the virus deniers: yeah yeah, I’m not getting into that “no virus / germ vs terrain theory” dialogue in this comment people, it’s a bridge too far for me, at least right now, your side comments make you sound like ? History buffs at best. I’m willing to entertain the theory. I think Luc Montagnier May actual be a proponent?).
Ok, so, if SarsCoV2 is even a real virus, viruses can mutate without the enormous pressure we’re putting on them but we are putting evolutionary pressure on them in the midst of a pandemic. So what’s driving the RAPID mutations is probably the shots. On the other hand the variants seem to be following natural progression from more deadly and less contagious to less deadly and more contagious. The prevalent strains are following normal evolutionary timelines except maybe for excessive speed.
Man I’m sorry people I am on a side track I really just meant to comment on the “believe the lies” . But the lady I was talking to believed totally that it was ONLY the unvaxxed causing the variants. And I wanted to comment that while I think she is wrong, it’s more complex than that.
And even if it doesn't, we do not observe the counterfactual. Claiming that the vaccine made something less severe is unknowable given the data available. And doesn't make sense to report it the way it is reported even if it were true. Either the vaccine is 90% effective against infection or hospitalization, not BOTH together, otherwise the hospitalization numbers make 0 sense. This discrepancy is why so many think the vaccine prevents hospitalization at a high clip even as thr vaccine has become negatively effective against infection
Great point. Hard to claim the vaxx made the symptoms less severe for any given individual when per the BMJ, 80-90% of unvaxxed get mild or no symptoms anyway.
Are you allowed to share this information publicly or would you be punished/silenced?
I am in Northern Virginia and a patient of a rather conservative medical practice. The doctors are treating patients with covid. From the beginning this pandemic was really kind of a sloppy scheme. I am an RNMS and well, there are a lot of people that believe anything the government tells them. Shame on the governments. I am completely insulted by all governments taking over the role of one's own doctor, ... most of us do have our own trusted medical professionals. What happened? What is happening and why would our government "authorities" some how believe that they are the one and only power and managers in our lives! No thanks
Dear Rosemary, because they are the best and the brightest and they all vote the "proper" way. That is why bureaucrats not only believe but know in their hearts that they know best and ought to have the power to rule you best. You seem surprised by this. Read some history.
Interesting, JS. I also live in NSW - a PhD but not a medical doctor. But my experience supports your hypothesis about the vax figures - really cant see that it can be in the high 90s percent.
I suspect that perhaps this tactic of reporting extremely high vaccination rates is being used to make the remaining unvaccinated who happen to also be isolated feel as if they are in an extreme minority that has no support or chance of resisting?
How do they keep making these commercials that say otherwise? And how do they get doctors to comply, do they really believe the lies? Just trying to figure out the psychology here.
I am an ER doctor. I spoke to our nursing supervisor who is in charge of giving statistics of admitted Covid patients and deaths. She said that they never ask for the number of these cases who were vaccinated.
Does that mean that the ICU doctors know the vaccination rates, and have observed the same rate among ICU patients? Or are the 'Covid' ICU patients split 50/50 vaxxed/unvaxxed?
I live in Sydney. I also question the stats. Why else would the push to be vaxxed be so utterly relentless every hour of the day, on every msm outlet? And given that it appears about 75% of the thirty odd deaths a day in nsw are vaccinated the real “risk” of remaining unvaccinated is being overstated.
Exactly. Population based statistics are only valid if the populations are statistically equal. If the un-vaxxed population is unhealthy 90+ and the vaxxed population is healthy under 60s, it makes a big difference.
This is why you have double blind clinical trials of an appropriate length. Not truncated trials with non-statistically groups to the overall population.
Also, population level health information is useless in making a personal medical decision. Consider that about 5% of the population will get prostate cancer in their lifetime. If you're a woman, do you care? Not really. And if you're a man, it's about 11%, but not for everyone. You're 3X more likely to have it if your father and other males in your family have had it. So the question isn't what's the percentage of the population that gets prostate cancer; it should be what's the chance I get prostate cancer?!
That is the right way to look at things. And even than it is only statistics. Even if all your ancestors had it you might not. It is like these beautiful young women who have their breasts removed because 2 or 3 women in their family had breast cancer. I just read that, even if the breast is removed, you can get the cancer. In the meanwhile you have yourself mutated. I think life is a chance game, and we have bodies that can cope with a lot. For myself I prefer natural methods for healing, and only go to the doctor if they fail. They seldom do. I go to the doc maybe 3 times in 10 years. Luckily my doc has other patients.
Applied to COVID, the question should be is the vaccine right for me? It's a valid question.
Those that achieve "COVID death" status have an average of 3 co-morbidities. Think about that for a second. That's already one foot in the grave. If you have that many co-morbidities prior to infection, you might want to try and increase your protection level, whatever it is, as a matter of personal choice.
By contrast, if you have zero co-morbidities, the need for vaccination (which is demonstrably non-sterilizing -- i.e., no social benefit to vaccinating the healthy) is practically zero, yet the possibility of adverse reaction is not zero. The vaccine is probably not right for you.
On a societal scale, the math of COVID vaccine mandates, therefore, is likely a net negative. Like the black out on natural immunity, however, this issue is never discussed as a matter of politics, not science.
I agree with you and Alex and also with the far more relevant distortion because of the 14 day miscategorization.
But my hunch is that the number and effect of the 'too ill to be vaxxed in nursing homes' might have been significant in the beginning but not anymore.
Just based on the fact of how it was promoted to us.... Was supposed to provide complete protection. The goalposts have been moved MULTIPLE times.
Whomever took it was not supposed to be able to be infected, not supposed to be able to harbor and transmit. This last bullshit about hospitalizations and death is just another goalpost they will be forced to move in the near future.
"At the end of every hard-earned day, people find some reason to believe" said Bruce Springsteen in a folky song recounting a litany of reasons to NOT believe.
Good luck. It got done in PA (Wolf's emergency powers ended via vote in May) and in NJ, the close call for Murphy has - so far - prevented much of a return to lockdowns/mask mandates (he reinstated some things on the eve of expiration). But there's a bill afoot, and beginning to get some D support - in deep blue NJ.
NJ, home of the "other nursing home slaughter". It seemed like Cuomo got all the press in that regard, Murphy was, I think, even more "effective".
Did you see the discussions about limiting Inslee's "Emergency Powers" and all of the public input? The legislature could act, but they won't, they are too scared of him and the Dem party. Absurd and terrifying.
Reading on the topic now. Like Phil, I plan to move out of Washington State as soon as my son graduates from high school. Watching the decline of Seattle has been utterly frustrating and obscene. And today, it was just announced that because city jails are overflowing and conditions are so 'poor' for inmates, there will be no more bookings in King County for certain crimes....."The proposal would largely prevent the booking of people accused of, but not yet charged with, offenses like burglary, car theft and drug dealing" (Seattle Times). From the governor who oversteps and operates like a dictator devastating the economic lives of citizens to City of Seattle and King County officials ensuring the rights of drug addicts and criminals over the rights and safety of its citizens who fund them all, Western Washington is no longer a place for building a future.
Well it has turned for the vaccine injured, just no one is listening to them, not those who injected them, their doctors, their governments…this is a crime of the biggest scale and it shocks me to the core when people don’t see it.
Yep, Maddie, the girl who's life was destroyed by the Pfiz#r Vax while IN the trials has not been able to get a dollar of assistance from the manufacturer or ANY of the notorious govt vax injury funds. Her parents are destitute and headed for bankruptcy. Imagine the hell others are experiencing!
This is a huge point. Who exactly can be held liable here? Anybody at all?
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THIS IS NOT ABOUT KEEPING YOU HEALTHY. This is about overriding your personal preferences with that of unaccountable ‘experts’. This is about you giving up your autonomy for the collective. And if you happen to be one of the eggs who gets broken, perhaps via vaccine injury or your child regressing in school, the collective will shrug and say you’re simply the cost of making the omelet.
Tangential to this: interviews with Aaron Siri, the attorney who successfully fought mandates and to get the FDA to release Pifzer clinical trial data in 1 year rather than the 75 years they wanted to take:
I would love to see all cause mortality tracked between vaxxed and unvaxxed. That alone would be interesting. But if we could further stratify by age and health/comorbidity…wow! That would speak volumes.
There is 1 reason they are not running a Vaxed vs unvaxed morbidity…because it will not support the vaxed narrative. Question…what happens if you take steroids for a long period of time? Your body quits producing testosterone. What do you think your Immune system does when you get Jabs every 6 months…soon to be 3 months. Your immune System atrophies and your body relies on those jabs. Now enter health issues from the jab… #EndGame Start bolstering your immune system and stay away from the jab.
Yes, we have an explosion of Acquired Immune Deficiency underway that will become horrifyingly obvious as dormant cancers rear up unopposed killing people in just weeks, not years anymore. This is genocide
ditto. but we will never see it-the narrative is: "the shots don't work but will keep you from getting really sick or die" - no proof but we are from govt & here to help
Those data points were tracked in the Pfizer clinical trials, and in fact there was slightly more mortality in the vaxxed - on the order of 50 IIRC out of 10k participants, although please verify this if you're interested. Now consider that this would have been during the more dangerous alpha/delta era for covid itself, and whilst fewer people in the population had natural immunity, and yet "some other cause" was balancing out and adding 50 to that purported reduction of COVID deaths in the vaxxed vs the unvaxxed. Hmm.. well, since this was a Gold Standard[tm] clinical trial (randomized, double blind, placebo controlled yadda yadda) I think we can officially conclude that the vaxxes have critical problems. But oh wait, that data was not originally made public, after all, it did not relate to the "primary endpoint" (reduction of deaths FROM COVID.) As if you care, arbitrarily, about dying FROM COVID more than dying per se.
Edit: PS those real-world data are available from Public Health England in the UK and Norman Fenton crunches the numbers. Again, what we see is not reassuring for the vaccines, but you will never get statisticians to agree on how to adjust the data.
Self-righteous shits is what they are. Double down lest you be proven wrong and when you ARE proven wrong you change your tone “That’s what I was TRYING to say, you Nazis just take everything the wrong waayyyy”
And even if 100% of the population is exposed some will still not contract Covid, whether it be from natural immunity from having the virus or due to a healthy immune system.
25 people died during the h1n1 trials and they shut it down. There is absolutely no benign explanation why this has not only continued but has progressed to forcing people to take something that 100% doesn't stop infection or transmission and 100% carries with it serious life threatening side effects.
You might be talking about 1976, yes? The reason it was shut down so quickly then is because vaccine makers were still financially liable. That went away in 1986 for childhood vaccines, and the PREP act covers liablity for these experimental shots. So, no matter how bad things get, they won't have to pay. There's only an up$ide for them.
This is just not something to worry about. All the debates stem from statism and leftist, cult "safetyism" that created the panic.
The immune compromised and elderly are most at risk for ANY virus, bacteria or other complication. That's life. Bad flus and other viruses come and go and kill people. Deal with it. We are mere mortals. The amount of time, money and resources thrown at covid was obviously a huge mistake. Fear reigned over pragmatism. It was over a long time ago. Alex has done good work, but until we dismantle the industrial medical complex (in other words, the massive subsidized cartel) and regulatory-captured entities, nothing will change. Dissent is the only way to fight this. Stop wearing masks and stop taking the vax at the individual level. Let others do what they want and take their chances. As for the mandates, freedom is expensive. Quit your job and do something else. Time to live. Vote with your own individual action. Debating inexperienced, biased number crunchers doesn't seem like the right path to me. It just goes in endless circles.
Thanks for the reminder, Alex. And, as Dr. Kory implied last Monday, there is a high likelihood that many of the people labeled as "unvaccinated" in the data sets were actually entered as "unknown vaccination status" in the hospital system codes (he said the only two options in some of the hospital codes are "vaccinated" or "status unknown") because for whatever reason, their status was unknown, thus, there is a high likelihood that any stats that identify "unvaccinated" probably actually include "vaccinated" people as well
Good point. Also, the authorities have the advantage of using the slipperiest definitions for these terms. Unvacinated can simply mean there were only 2 shots administered and the patient did not get "boosted" and therefore was not fully vaxxed. Of course, they use timing such as 2 weeks for the vax to take effect. In the meantime they are "unvaxed."
Always a racket. Anything to cook the books and only in one direction.
He added - the question should always be- were they given early treatment or not? He said that is a much more important question to ask than the vaccination status.
Good job! Yes approx 330 million. Approx 2.5 million deaths each year. If they ever put that on CNN the interest in all of the Covid narrative would wane. We have 800,000 deaths so far, which is 400,000 per year with flu disappeared, of course. Which is a completely expected death event if flu were not 'deleted'
Albert Bourla admitted on January 10th that the current Pfizer vax does not work against Omicron. Pfizer is apparently coming out with a new Omicron specific shot. So why are people still getting vaccinated?? I’m NOT vaxed (and never will be) but let’s say I wanted to start now. I wouldn’t be “fully vaxed” until the END OF JULY! We will be two more variants away from omicron my then. By the way, I had Omicron and immediately took Ivermectin. All I had was a sore throat for 3 days. My husband was the same. It works!
exactly. The other obvious question is how did they create a new shot so quickly? Tested even less than the original? Or not tested at all, most likely. SCAM.
It's all a scam. They created the virus for the vaccine. They knew the flu wouldn't be enough to scare people into modifying their genes with untested nano-lipid technology, so they created a plandemic.
I don't think there is anything remarkable about rapid mRNA "vaccine" development. I've seen no claims of extensive testing, why should they, if they can get away with "testing lite" as with earlier efforts? The newer jab might be good against a newer variant -- for a while. But since it's based on the same mRNA technology, I would expect it to fade as rapidly and have the same highly risky side effects. I agree it's all a scam, one to make money, and perhaps, for more insidious ends.
The reader asserts anyone who disagrees with him has a thick skull. And THAT HE PROVES THINGS WITH STATISTICS. AND CAPITAL LETTERS.
That's the problem. Or, at least, my problem.
If he said it's plausible the vaccine is having an effect, then there could be a conversation around age stratification, vaccination status definitions, etc.
If the "vaccine" is having an effect, what is it? Because (reader example) 75% of deaths are among the "vaccinated." If it's not preventing death for a disease syndrome that most people experience as cold-like symptoms--or none, given the very high proportion of asymptomatic "cases." The IFR is purportedly ~0.1% (Stanford's Ioannidis' study out recently). I'd ask, why are the deaths so high in the "vaccinated"...
Y’all are making this too complicated. The risks of Covid-19 and the benefits of the gene therapy compounds were greatly overstated to the degree those making those statements simply no longer have any credibility. There’s no excuse for the bullying over vaccines or masks period!
Right if they don't have the confidence in their own vaccines which we can see by the fact they're not legally obligated plus those who take it still don't go about their lives normally. So why the hell should we take it
We went for vacation to Central America few years ago. The apartment was advertised as Balcony with Oceanview. Then they placed bunch of pictures of the Pacific Ocean. In reality the “Oceanview” was a stream of water less than 4 inch thick draining into the ocean. When he retires Fauci can easily manage one of those apartment complex.
Victory today for those who want to live like a human being in San Francisco and not get vaccinated! Looks like the work of the vax stats truthers is paying off! Thanks, Alex, for getting the word out!
As of today, San Francisco businesses are “allowed” to admit patrons if they state they are declining vaccination for religious or medical reasons. Thanks SF for “allowing” businesses to not discriminate on the basis of religion or medical condition!
<< Beginning on February 1, 2022, operators of such Businesses are allowed, but not required by this Order, to accept exemptions from the vaccination requirements subject to certain health precautions, as follows. Patrons and staff may be exempt from the vaccination requirements under this section only upon stating either of the following: (1) the individual is declining vaccination based on Religious Beliefs or (2) the individual is excused from receiving any COVID-19 vaccine due to Qualifying Medical Reasons. >>
OK, but why not just eliminate it entirely? I would be incredibly paranoid that someone would spit in my food (or worse) if I declared a religious exemption! This seems like a desperate way to hold onto the phone-based verification system while releasing pressure that would otherwise topple the system. We have to insist that this manipulative ecosystem be made to disappear pronto.
First of all (unfortunately) the city is not requiring restaurants to accept religious exemptions, only allowing them. This means that any restaurant offering religious exemptions is doing it because they actually want your business. I really think most businesses would rather expand their clientele. What the city is doing is offering businesses the opportunity to not discriminate. You can safely avoid the businesses that refuse to grant religious exemptions.
Secondly the way we hasten the demise of this "manipulative ecosystem" is to encourage businesses to make it as easy as possible for patrons to claim their religious exemption. Of course simply ignoring the rule is one way, but other more timid establishments may be convinced to offer some kind of quick and easy way to claim religious exemption. Imagine a greeter who says, would you like to submit proof of vaccination or a no-questions-asked religious or medical exemption? Thank you, right this way.
By the way every person who does not consent to vaccination and sincerely believes it is wrong to lie when signing a consent form, qualifies for a religious exemption, with the religious belief being "it is wrong to lie." Every religion will say it is wrong lie in this context, even atheism! Details here: http://howtosee2020.com/
Let's not forget these high percentages are merely relative risk reduction anyway. The trials themselves (which didn't include any population one might argue the vaccine is good for) concluded the actual risk reduction to be around the 1 percent mark
Oh the clinical trials for the vaccines are a study in much ado about not much.
The highest infection rate among the placebo group was the Janssen trial at ~1.5%. Pfizer was around 0.8-0.9%. This at a time when the test positivity rate in the US was ranging from 5-10%.
Who got those shots? What was their demographic and health status? How long ago? Since they knew they got vaxxed, how did their behavior change afterwards? Since unvaxxed knew they were unvaxxed, how did their behavior change over this time? Population density? Employment status? Etc, etc. This is what studies are for. Otherwise, similar people should be matched up and compared over a period of time.
Their comment would be right if the proper multivariate analysis were completed. However, the refusal to acknowledge that 30 somethings unvaxxed aren't dying, but 80 somethings unvaxxed are and were too sick to be vaxxed anyway, is entirely misleading. It's like when the cdc pushes "95% of deaths are amoung the unvaxxed" when they try to count the ones who died when the vaccine wasn't even available. They continue to lie with disingenuous statistics because they know most of the population doesn't understand it.
Can we please all admit that none of any of this has to do with health or protection from a virus. This is about getting us all to accept a digital ID so that we can be monitored and controlled. Everything else is just noise. Wake up people. DO NOT COMPLY!!!
One cannot perform the proper multivariate analysis, because the data required is (thankfully) not observable. What's one left with is garbage multivariate analysis with some ovservables picking up the effect from the unobserved drivers - behavior.
That is true. Garbage data in, garbage data out. If the "non partisan" agencies hadn't been partisan and gave us proper data, then this wouldn't even be a subject right now.
This is why they HAVE to vaccinate the healthy <50s to more and more absurd levels until they got down to babies. Vaccinating people who were unlikely to have severe symptoms in the first place helps make the vaccines look like they're working.
It's the only way I can wrap my head around the mandates for workers and college students. They make no logical sense otherwise based upon anything we know about these vaccines, or covid.
Perhaps you could do a post explaining about adjusted ratios and demonstrate how they are misleading so we can recognize the false framing of the data and be knowledgable when discussing it with others. If you have already done so, perhaps link to it when discussing it.
This is a point that I've seen in a number of Substacks, a point the vaxx fanatics and Covidiots REFUSE to acknowledge let alone consider or incorporate into their thinking:
Many elderly folks who die unvaxxed are unvaxxed BECAUSE they're elderly and not healthy enough to tolerate the vaxxes. So THEIR numbers disproportionately inflate the unvaxxed deaths number.
But no vaxx fanatic and no Covidiot wants to acknowledge how this fact perverts the numbers AND their arguments.
They are not dying from Covid. They are dying from the injuries, blood clots, cancer, autoimmune disease, heart attacks, plus numerous other horrific side effects that Doctors and nurses risk there very livelihood if they properly report what these vaccines are causing. Hospitals are literally killing people with remdesivir and respirators as directed by NIAID and NIH If they report cause of death is Covid they actually get paid by NIH and NIAID. All for a faux pandemic with a mortatility rate of approximately .025%. When will people realize this entire pandemic narrative is an engineered hoax. Period. If starting tomorrow morning we just stopped all the responses, all the lockdowns, all the vaccines it would end. Except for dealing with the many people that are eventually going to either live with crippling health problems or die from these horrific mRNA injections. Search for and watch Senator Ron Johnson’s hearing on Covid. Why are people still discussing this as if the responses just need some tweaking. This entire thing is being driven by the most evil psychopaths the world has ever seen. We have in two years gone from a health care system where you could count on Doctors trying to help you to Doctors and Hospitals trying to kill you to serve lord Fauci. The bad actors in this thing are spelled out in Dr Reiner Fuellmich’s class action lawsuits against the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, WHO, governments and political leaders worldwide. He is leading a team of 34 lawyers. Look at his site
www.stopworldcontrol.com. His team makes it pretty clear this crime is about three things. 1. Control 2. Population reduction 3. Money
If the mRNA injections worked, even a smidgen, then there would be hardly any new cases in a place like Israel. This is one of the best testing grounds and it is more than obvious that these poisons are a miserable failure and only work to destroy the immune system.
There are quite a few (the exact number is unknown) of elderly people who are too sick to get the vax. These are the exact kind of people who are most at risk - in other words, most likely to die if they get Covid. So they catch Covid and they die. Did they die because they were unvaxxed? No, they died because they are old and sick. Technically they are unvaxxed, but it wasn't the lack of vax that killed them.
The only way to compare the numbers honestly is to have clinical trials which account for these factors - age and health. So you are comparing apple to apples - where the only difference is whether or not they have been jabbed.
It would be very easy to do this type of comparison if the companies hadn't blown up the original trials. Of course, that's the reason why they blew up the trials - so no one could make an apples to apples comparison.
No, isn't this the other way? Forr governments around the world to be honest (or the lemmings disguised as journalists to do their job and insist on this) in their reporting on deaths and separate those who chose not to be vaccinated from those who were advised not to be vaccinated.
"There are quite a few (the exact number is unknown) of elderly people who are too sick to get the vax." Are there providers actually withholding the vax from these people? Everything I've heard leads me to believe these are the people the 'health authorities' want to vax the most--older with risk factors--they are usually first in line.
I agree. I have yet to hear of a person who is too sick to vax. I have several family members over 75 with multiple co-morbidities eaxh and all are double vaxed and boosted.
This is why the "my symptoms are mild because of my vaccine" argument is so illiterate and infuriating.
For people of relatively young age and normal health status, covid is mostly going to be mild/moderate. Vaccinated or not.
People of relatively old age and poor health status will always make up the majority of covid deaths. Vaccinated or not.
The vaccine fanatics always conveniently ignore health and age status when comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated because this threatens the "vaccines are working" narrative.
I am a covid survivor.... took a total of 4 asprin... and I am covid vaccine-free since Ihave natural immunity... so why do I need to be injected with a genetic experiment that does not work? I am not an anti-vaxer since I have made sure my children received the tried and tested vaccines that have been shown to be relatively safe. This mRNA poison is alarmingly dangerous and would never have been approved under normal circumstances. The level of corruption associated with this is mind boggling and the criminal class posing as politicians and their pseudo scientific experts all need weeding out. Doctors who have accepted payments to give these shots have been ethically compromised and should resign.
Cici... the old style vaccines that were developed before the 1960's in universities etc. are relatively safe. These genetic experiments no. The papillomavirus vaccines were causing problems with women in particular and Merck and EU suppressed information while millions of young women particularly took that poison encouraged by their frightened mothers (cancer of the ovaries and uterus fears). So I do not trust Big Pharma and that is why its important to never take a vaccine until proven to be exceedingly low risk and that may take more than 10 years... in the mean time what are your risks from the disease? Diseases such as measles we all had that as kids and mumps and chicken pox no vaccines.
The whole mainstream narrative is ridiculous because:
1. Unvaccinated are tested much more than vaccinated.
2. There’s a healthy user bias: People who choose to take a vaccine are healthier (on average) than people who don’t.
3. Some people are too frail to take the vaccine. These people are obviously at high risk for Covid if they’re not even strong enough to take the vaccine.
4. PCR cycle thresholds are run higher on people who are unvaccinated than people who are vaccinated. This inflates positive results in the unvaccinated.
5. Partially vaccinated, and up to 2 weeks after the second dose is often counted as unvaccinated. This skews the stats considerably. Also, this is when the vast majority of illness occurs (up to 2 weeks after the second dose).
Bottom line: all mainstream statistics for cases and deaths are heavily skewed towards unvaccinated relative to vaccinated. *And yet, many regions still show higher cases per capita among the vaccinated.*
Another thing that skews hospitalization data is that the CDC changed guidance for hospitals to test all unvaccinated admissions but only test vaccinated hospital admissions if they demonstrated COVID symptoms. Incidental COVID hospitalizations are heavily distorted toward unvaccinated, but as we know they do not, or mostly have not, made distinctions between hospitalization because of COVID and hospitalization with incidental COVID.
Something Dr. Pierre Kory said at Senator Ron Johnson's hearing sticks with me. He said (paraphrasing) "there really are only 2 groups that matter. There are the treated and the untreated."
I'm finding really hard to get detailed info out of my local government on health status and even detailed age. Also no other details like type of 'vaccine', death in/out of hospital, with or of COVID-19. Information is critical to making a proper risk assessment!
Most egregious to me when rates are published is that they have resorted to 2 classifications - 'fully vaccinated' and 'not fully vaccinated'. They provide vague definitions of days since injected but from the public data it's impossible to look at efficacy by zero dose, 1 dose, 2 dose,... When they obfuscate their reporting I immediately ask "WHY?" And the obvious conclusion is that they have something to hide!
It seems some people haven't heard of the healthy user effect, and other confounders of observational studies. As Mr. Berenson points out, the actual randomized controlled trials of the vaccines didn't show a reduction in all-cause mortality.
Shrank WH, Patrick AR, Brookhart MA. Healthy user and related biases in observational studies of preventive interventions: a primer for physicians. J Gen Intern Med. 2011 May;26(5):546-50. doi: 10.1007/s11606-010-1609-1. Epub 2011 Jan 4. PMID: 21203857; PMCID: PMC3077477.
All cause mortality will be the metric to watch. From Pfizer's failure with all cause mortality in the initial study to current casualty counts year over year. The large life insurance company in Indiana(?) recently sounded the alarm on increased death rates among 18-64 year olds.
Yes I know the authorities blame the virus, or fallback to lockdown stress and skipped medical checkups, etc. But an honest reading of VAERS (and the similar reporting systems worldwide) tells us you can't rule out the jabs.
El Gato Malo has a great piece called Stats with Cata a few weeks back - showing how saline could be shown to have “vaccine efficiency.” It’s a great simplistic breakdown.
The need to push constant boosters into a wave because of the definition.
Say today they said “only 15% of deaths this week were boosted and 30% of the population has had a booster!” They are comparing apples to oranges. What they would need to do is go back to when those people got infected to see what percentage of the population WAS boosted 5-7 weeks ago for deaths. Doing that the boosters almost always show negative efficiency.
It’s even worse when someone gets “boosted” in a wave - they become very likely to get sick <14 days after the shot. They get called “not up to date” and that scares more people into the same stupidity.
Yup. omicron wave is 40 days long. 20 days up and 20 days down. If someone gets 'boosted" in the middle of the wave, they technically are counted as just fully vaxxed for 26 days and boosted for 14.
Two years in and we still don’t have solid numbers from those recovered. NATURAL IMMUNITY!! Keep screaming Alex. History will show you were on the side of truth.
The way to measure is against baseline like the Department of Defense Data leaked by the whistleblowers and reported at the January 24th Senate Hearing. People show their ignorance when they repeat the mantra "numbers don't lie". The hypnotized can not hear logic. Indeed they do not WANT to hear logic. The people holding on to their comfort zone that government can be trusted so hard will not give that up till death. They will buy tombstones for their babies that say they are so glad they sacrificed them to the shots. Arguing with the hypnotized is like arguing with AI troll bots programmed to demoralize people who are aware of the deception. Things are happening behind the censorship. The shots are going to be shut down. The Great Goodbye signified by the collapsing athletes on TV has just begun. This is going to be like watching the Hindenburg crash in slow motion for 10 years. And there will be a tipping point that leads to the jailers of humanity being dragged out into the streets by their own bodyguards. But they are going to destroy as many people with the HUMAN EMBRYONIC KIDNEY CELL LINE DEVELOPED VACCINES as they possibly can before it all goes down in flames. Human Embryonic Kidney cells are one of the human sources in the monoclonal antibodies too. They don't tell you that at the clinic do they?
Just looked at Israel's numbers. It is not looking good still 80,000 a day and the highest per day death rate since the start of Corona. Denmark's data is not much better. Both countries are highly vaccinated These countries and others have crossed the Rubicon. Antibody Dependent Enhancement.
Watch the videos out of Canada today, especially through Rebel News. History is being made on the Alberta-U.S. border now. Hopefully will end without any casualties. Some videos have been posted on Twitter.
With these "vaccines", there is another reason why the vaccinated Covid death numbers look a little better than the unvaxxed.
Imagine this. Imagine you threw a bunch of people into the middle of the ocean and you wanted to prove that this technique would teach people to swim. Now half the people who you threw into the ocean managed to swim to shore and the other half drowned.
Well, you start measuring how well your technique worked 2 hours after the experiment began and voila, you end up with 100% success for your technique! Never mind that you managed to eliminate all the least capable swimmers in those first 2 hours. By starting the measurement of results after 2 hours, you can prove near perfect outcomes.
Now back to the Covid vaccines. If you only start measuring people's health outcomes 6 weeks after the first shot is given, then all those least healthy people who die in the first 6 weeks magically don't count! Just like your group of people who already knew how to swim!
These vaccine trials were sold as if you took them that you would not end up in the hospital. This is truly not the case regardless of the patient comorbidities they were told they would be safe from catching viral pneumonia. These vaccine trials are messing with the immune system. Most people can fight an infection without medication or hospitalization. When people in their 50's after being vaccinated are ending up in the hospital and that patient tells you that they are glad that they never took the booster should tell you something. I feel bad for everyone who took these vaccine trials to keep a job. Your health is most important if you are a good worker, you can find a job any place. This risk of getting sick disabled or death is not worth that chance in my mind. People dont realize that most vaccine trials after 7 to 10 years. Never make final approval by the FDA or for safety in humans.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at the absolute braindead, follow Fauci like a zombie stupidity, these people are displaying. Dude probably didn't were a mask, then 2, then 3, then a KN95 with tape on each side, all while putting his mail in the microwave prior to touching it, followed by reporting on every unvaccinated person who died, ignoring that most have severe underlying health issues while completely ignoring the vaccine injuries; that are in the 10's of thousands along with the nothing to see here attitude with regard to the vaccinated who are dying faster than ever. Yeah, he is a toolbox
Lets also not forget a lot of the 10% unvaxxed that would be dying can't get the vaccines because they are too sick. They also miss the fact that if 75% of all deaths are vaxxed there is an issue with the vax. Last I checked no one is dying of viruses that we have other vaccines for. Seems like people only die from this virus while vaccinated
They have lied to us since the beginning. This is the worst vaccine ever distributed. Not tested properly and rammed down peoples throats using fear and intimidation to get people to comply. Its not working and Big Pharma is not your friend.
Don't know about the stats, but talked to one person yesterday who had COVID in the early days and recovered, then got vaccinated and came down with delta over Christmas and became very sick but pulled out of it fortunately (was given ivermectin), and then, a few weeks later came down with omicron--a triple whammy. My only question is: did the vaccinations contribute to his subsequent illnesses?
Your analysis is only valid if you start out with the SAME population with the same health challenges wearing red shoes or getting vaccinated or whatever. If all the people who wear red shoes die and you find out that only people over age 85 who were in hospice wore red shoes then does wearing red shoes cause people to die at higher levels or is it because they were in hospice when they put on the red shoes? People in hospice shouldn't get vaccinated - because the entire point of hospice is to make the end of life comfortable - NOT to extend life. So if everyone in hospice doesn't get vaxxed that dramatically affects the numbers. There are around 1.5 million Americans in hospice each year. Almost all of them die.
Even without adjusting for health status and age, it's statistical malfeasance to treat people within 5 weeks of getting their first shot as "unvaccinated" - especially when the majority of issues occur within the first couple of weeks of getting jabbed.
Even if both numbers were 90% in vaccinated and unvaccinated, by treating the vaccinated in a certain timeframe as unvaccinated - it will always skew the numbers to make it look like the vaccine works.
Yes, also true
This aberration is a double distortion. Two 5 and 5 baseball teams play each other one game. The winner is guaranteed to go to 6 and 5, the loser to 5 and 6. Now yes, when infections are up to three times as likely to occur in that period, this double shift of calling the vaccine caused increased likelihood of infection, a unvaccinated infection, is very very large. Also, in many areas the pure percentage of infected, hospitalized and dead, per 100 k vaccinated to per 100k unvaccinated, demonstrates that the vaccines are making it wore, not better, and not just worse for the first five weeks post jab one, but worse continuously except for a very small window of time no more then two months long
and only in a few age categories
and only if you ignore the incorrect adjustment for the first five weeks post vaccine one
and only if you ignore all cause morbidity and mortality.
and only if you ignore demographic factors
Sp Juan, Alex does not have a thick head, and please look deeper.
Thank you for this reply I was going to spell it out but could not do better! Actually I find it hard to believe that the last paragraph of the initial critique could be made in this context. Thanks
Not to mention the health bias of the vaccinated. Effectively all of those that are at risk but unvaxxed are unvaxxed for a reason at this point. It is why vax rate falls off among >80 cohort.
Hopefully, my stubbornness is not also a risk factor LOL.
I think it is important you spend the time to articulate this better. I have had the same thought as Juan. My rationale has been: 1 vax'd extremely healthy 40 year old vs. 1 unvax'd extremely healthy 40 year old... I do not believe the net benefit to being vax'd is worth the punitive government action to compel such action.
Not worth the risk of terrible side effects either. Just in my own small circle of family, friends and neighbors I have seen deaths and life threatening illnesses happen to healthy people who took the shots. Of maybe 8 such, only one reported to VAERS so I'm thinking Steve Kirsch is right about the actual risk being much greater than claimed.
I've seen 2 die within 5 days. And whose kidneys and mind failed first, and took a little longer. A month or so.
Were they given the Very Toxic Remdesivir brand name Veklury? it destroys organs. http://mauiindependent.org/remdesivir-doesnt-save-lives-why-did-the-fda-approve-it-as-covid-treatment/
China actuall did a DOUBLE BLIND STUDY, FAUCI DIDN'T, CHANGED PROTOCALS MID TEST VERY UNETHICAL!
How can I contact you?
Thanks for all the great work
#stfu you ignorant whore
So, is this how your earn money....by posting this in discussions totally unrelated to your pitch??? And you think that this is effective?? Come on guys, take this down.
Spammers on Substack, fercrissakes? 😡
Hi Alex, can you verify or debunk this claim of Bayesian Datacrime (or how to make vaccines more efficient through mathematical tricks:)
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bayesian-datacrime-defining-vaccine?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web
If the above is true, I would consider it a smoking gun.
From at paying subscriber in Scandinavia
If Pharma has a new expensive drug to sell they get the FDA to change the 'numbers' to show you now have High Blood Pressure, your obese, your BS is to high. They changed the obese numbers under Obama, by measuring the neck size of 6'5'' body builders, truckers with big bodies/bones, it forced many truckers into weight loss surgery they didn't need at 200-250 lbs. Which is a normal weight before the number's change. Now my BIL is 6'4" weighed 400 lbs larged boned, was put on a big box of pills, finally had a slow weght loss surgery, now down to 210, has large bones, but looks fantastic, and Pharma lost a customer. It didn't come without side effects either. He has a hard time eating/digesting food. It makes a 5 ft gal like me Obese at 130 lbs. and sick all the time at 110 lbs.
I don’t always follow the reasoning not because it’s unreasonable but my tiny brain begins to spin and well, then comes nausea again something I can’t handle. Even so if my level of reasoning is correct then if 90% of the population is “vaxed” and 75% of those people die, I think the argument is more along the line of.....didn’t after the jab proved ineffective at preventing COVID-19 it was supposed to, and when that was proven false it was sold as preventative to serious illness and hospitalization....again false. Then at least it will prevent death but these numbers show once again false. Isn’t this the meat and potatoes individual’s line?
This months job report shows some of Covid's effect, but condidering the Left Wing source some Economist needs to look into it. These were laid off workers returning to work #1, many chose the Jab. No mention of Blue State/county reports. If I'm going by my grocery store's empty shelves, 2 checkers instead of 6 Fri-Sunday, 1 Full Time stocker, the checkers were working in stock, the mean age of the Shop for you, people were 18-21. And add in my Eldest soon to be 51 report on the No Workers, can't pass drug screens, that had him working 92 hrs Christmas week, the now shorter hours as closure time is now 6 pm, same for Walmart. It impacts how you read the Jobs report. MARKET REPORT/COVID/MONKEY BUSINESS SLATE IS A LEFT WING NEWS. Needs more info.https://slate.com/business/2022/02/jobs-report-2021-economy-wrong-explained.html
This cannot be overstated. It feels like the key to the biggest piece of misinformation. Also the short and long term risks we “don’t know”.
It is the "we don't know" that prevents me from exiting the "control group".
I like that self-characterization. I am in the Control Group.
Me too
Same here
Praying for all of you! Including several in-law children of mine -- spouses of my unvaxxed children.
Control here as well as well as ALL of my immediate family approx 10 of us including grandparents!! All have had covid and got over it using proper protocol!! Ivermectin Vit D Vit C and Zinc and quercetin and NAC.
Plus the gene therapy (called a vaccine) does nothing good in the short run, setting aside the long run for the moment.
Me too. I’m hearing rumors the Red Cross won’t accept vaccinated blood. I need to check if that’s true.
This is an example of a claim that is "trivially true." If you look at this cite:
https://www.redcrossblood.org/faq.html#eligibility-medications
You will see that in general, you would wait two weeks or more after receiving most vaccinations -- including the non-mRNA Covid-19 jabs. So technically, if you are in the < 14 days window, you are not supposed to donate.
That’s a scary thought to receive mRNA blood😳
The blood probably doesn’t have mRNA, but probably has lipid nano particles, and spike proteins.
Blood tested at blood banks earlier on in pandemic showed evidence of Covid dating to august 2019 unknowingly. I read it somewhere back in Spring of 2020
Line up unvaxxed family to donate to you, if need be.
Good reason to bank your own!!!
Because extensive research indicates that blood returns to pre vax normal after 14 days. Nothing potentially harmful floating around, right? I mean, 14 days is science based, right? Right?
Vicknaird, is this true? Everything clears after 2 weeks? What are these claims based on-- are there any studies, or is this what you "heard"?
Someone locally told me he donated and was asked no questions about vax status. I am “pure” and happily donating this Friday. Lots of places in desperate need for blood! My sister’s
Hospital in Cali ran out of blood the other night.
they should mandate blood donations - no blood no job - wonder how people would take that
What does a 4 profit hospital charge for your blood if a Tylenol is $ 60?
In Italy unvaccinated blood donors are exempt from greenpass rules to give blood, blood supply is running low and there have been coagulation problems with vaxed blood
Oh that will go over well.
In Canada they are accepting blood donations from vaccinated individuals
In Canada they accept a moron Communist whose mom was a tramp and dad was buddies with Castro as their PM.
Ahhh but have you watched the videos coming out of Canada? I’m not very good with Reposting Twitter (newbie there) feeds but the truckers voices and horns are being heard. I feel for the poor downtown Ottawans who can’t sleep but this is bigger than that. It’s pretty amazing.
Careful! We have worse with Biden admin who STOLE the election but still plenty of Americans who actually voted for the idiot.
If you look closely, you will see why we refer to him as Justin Castro.
And whose dad was Fidel himself. He's the vivid image of him.
how would they NOT? There aren't enough unvaxxed people left there to fill the blood banks, are there?
Let us know what you find out.
And I'm very reluctant to have my cells hijacked to create the very spike that kills people in the first place. I mean what the ...?
It's the lack of CV risk that keeps me from vaxxing.
That, plus they criminally blocked viable treatments to get the vax on the street.
After the mRNA injections went through their fake trials, the drug companies gave them a 95% success or efficacy rating. We now see the true rating, the ARR or absolute risk reduction rating which was about 1% coming into reality time and time again.
When I saw "95% efficacy" I knew right then something was off. Now we know for sure.
Question: Was that whopping 1% reduction in contracting the virus or getting hospitalized/dying from it?
And the vaccine group had greater overall mortality, but they don't advertise that fact.
It was in developing any symptoms with a positive test. Nobody died during the trials of/with covid, there were a few hospitalizations. A subject had to report to his trial doctor if they developed any symptoms. After this the doctor decided IF they take a swab test. No routine swab tests were performed, no serological test before or after. You can find a lot of details on BMJ or in the original papers, quite easy to read.
Problem is the numbers in the trials were so small, that the results are barely statistically significant. But more people did die in the treatment group and the difference was getting larger from 2 months to 6 months, but was not statistically significant. If you did a linear regression and the pattern stayed the same, it would have been significant by the 3 year mark when the trials were supposed to end. Even more damning, there were 4 more cardiac related deaths in the treatment group.
actually it was 0.1%, if that.. it was something like 15/15000 from the vaccinated group got sick and 150/15000 from the control group. They used RR as 15 is around 5% of 150 or so(my numbers arent exact but they were close to this). Yet ARR is insanely small, because they purposefully selected least likely to get severe reactions from the jabs on purpose! Zero people died in the control group too
Zero died in the control group yes, but in the jabbed group a few died. ( cant remember the number) just not from Corvid. I think it was cardio issues, and we all just know that the vaccines don't affect the heart or vascular health at all right?
hah, yeah it's insane how corrupt our medical system is.. the companies get to analyze their own data and manipulate it to lie about people getting hurt from their own product.. if anything this country needs to demand breaking up the conflict of interest of the fda/cdc and big pharma, there should be no money involved /passed between them
This is a great piece that goes through the shortcuts and shortcomings of the Pfizer clinical trials. No one who saw this would trust the shots:
https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-covid-19-more-harm-than-good-2/
exactly. when you see the real numbers from the trials. and see how they calculated that 95% it's wildly misleading. the BMJ (Doshi?) did a great article on all this very early. very very early. what a dependent media fail. 0 press from what i recall.
No. The true rating against infection is clearly negative. ARR or no ARR, these vaccines have a negative efficiency rating against infection. The exact thing the fake trials pretended to be at 95%. If negative efficiency against death can still be debated, negative efficiency against infection is clearly visible based on official data from multiple countries. The trials were a joke.
I believe you are correct. I don't have a cite, but I believe I've seen that claim that most severe reactions/deaths with vaccines (not just the mRNA jabs) happen within two weeks, in fact most happen soon after the injection and incidence drops off quickly.
Relevant to the mRNA abominations, though: Counting a person as not considered "vaccinated" until two weeks after the SECOND dos (?) is just another of the inexcusable sleights of hand of the current regime. I can understand this terminology for claims of efficacy. It is utter deviousness to claim someone sick or dead after two shots but < 14 days afterwards was "unvaccinated." As such, the vaccines could not possibly have been a cause, using their acid-trip reasoning!
Actually, no one is vaccinated. No matter when you had the shot, which shot, how many shots, and how long you have waited - NO ONE IS VACCINATED because it ain't a vaccine!!!
I always hear that claim but if some gets sick 1 month, 2 months, 5 months after the vaccine how would that event ever be recorded? Would any doctor say your health condition was correlated with a vaccine taken 3 months ago? Not in this system it wouldn't. Who is doing large scale disease/vaccine correlation studies? The same people who got rid of the control groups after the original trials? I think unless you keel over quickly an adverse event won't ever be recorded. (until you get into overall higher death rates much later) That is why the shortest term events get picked up and the claim that "most severe reactions happen in the first two weeks" is made. Seek and ye shall find.....Don't seek and the vaccines are friggin awesome!!
"Who is doing large scale disease/vaccine correlation studies?"
Exactly! By now...
we should have exact and known causes of ALL common VAERS reports, via autopsies and studies.
we should have EXACT numbers and percentages of all cause mortality and morbidity for EVERY kind of illness, vaccinated verse unvaccinated, numbering in the 10s of millions.
we should have this broken down perfectly in to common demographics.
we should have lots of people in jail for life, as a minimum.
totally~ but that would be REAL science, and we can't have that, can we?
As with Watergate: follow the money. As Goldman Sachs pointed out in an investment research note to their top clients, selling a drug that makes people well is not a very good business model, there are trillions of dollars at stake ensuring that people get more and more unwell. This is as plain as day: why would "government health people" not go full bore telling people to exercise and lose weight? Given the 1:1 relationship between Covid mortality and obesity?
always! I remember when it went from prevention/cure conditions to "management".. for life.. taking a drug every day. Criminal.
in many ways like the many years it took to firmly establish that tobacco use is related to increased cancer. it was DECADES that the industry was able, in court, to claim there was no clear evidence of a causal relationship. it will be the same with the shots.
Also what they did to people telling them fat made you fat. Then everyone turned to sugar and chemicals. There are so many things like this and obviously scientists were out there that knew the truth. But no real journalism happened. Just the mainstream narrative. So infuriating!
trrue that!
I’m amazed at how so many don’t even consider the jab as a cause of death or sickness!
That’s likely what is responsible for the 2021 massive spikes of excess deaths reported in country after country. However it’s not getting mainstream press, so we can guess how the government will characterize it once it spills into the news.
true that!
I keep thinking this is two weeks after the shot. But it’s really after the second shot and there is a pause in between. That’s even worse. Wow. So obviously criminal.
I dont know where you saw the claim but the data not opinion from Denmark, UK, Scotland, Israel and now the US clearly indicates that the jab causes your current issues to fast forward as you would expect from a damaged immune system. It doesnt go away after 2 weeks! Hence the rise in all cause mortality and recently raised in a senate hearing in US as 40% over there! This refers to mRNA not proper vaccines!!
The two week rule is only used for evaluating efficacy. It is not used for evaluating safety. If you have a serious adverse event one day after vaccination, then the vaccine is certainly a possible cause, and nothing about the CDCs methodology in evaluating safety rules that out
A play on a famous quote.......
"I consider it completely unimportant who in the country will be vaccinated, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the Shots, and how."
Pandemic of Numbers Manipulation.
Exactly, the effect of this on the statistics is huge, because it inflates the "unvaccinated in hospital" figure with people that belong in the "in hospital from the vaccine" figure, the latter being ridiculously understated in any event due to the unwillingness to report to VAERS for fear of offending the Pharmaceutical industry. So it has a double whammy effect which I would think must be even bigger than the failure to take into account the health status of elderly unvaccinated.
In germany it is first and second shot plus 14 days waiting time. This is the fraud. Same was done in the trials.
Really, in the trials? If they became infected in the five week period were they counted as unvaccinated infections, of just dropped from the study?
Juan I feel your love but do you have a response to lymond ?
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bayesian-datacrime-defining-vaccine
i liked the good old days when the vaccine stopped infection, stopped transmission, stopped you from dying and getting real sick. it was 95% effective at that! or most of that. or some of that. and now look what all this real world data and exposes have done to that 95% effective vaccine. it's a shame.
if this was the boy who cried wolf the boy would be on his 10th round of fooling the villagers. when a source lies this many times you stop listening to them. sorry CDC, Fauci, Gates, you blew it. i hope the wolf doesn't eat you.
If you dig deeper, you'll find that what we believe about traditional vaccines isn't true either. Dr. Suzanne Humprhies administered thousands of vaccines, then 3 of her ill patients took a sharp turn for the worse after a flu vaccine, and THEN she began to research vaccines. Dissolving Illusions is the result:
https://dissolvingillusions.com/
Forrest Maready's work is also worth looking into: http://forrestmaready.com/
You shouldn't adjust by both health status and age. Only health status with the understanding that whatever adjustment made will not account for idiosyncratic differences. Adjusting for age as well will bias the measurement
No it won't the more you vaccinate younger healthy people the smaller the percentage of short term deaths.
Yea prob the 15% variance is they died while still in the “ unvaccinated waiting period”
Yes, especially when the depression of immunity for 2 weeks post first jab results in greater infection and deaths that are shifted to unvaccinated.
It's 5 weeks now? I thought it was 2 weeks after vax...
two weeks after second jab. That is always how they did it.
After the second one. So there can be a few weeks in between. Longer if it’s “put off”. (I kept thinking two weeks too.)
I think it's indisputable. Most are within a few days. Scroll down to the second chart... https://openvaers.com/covid-data
Agree, but 5 weeks? I thought it was 2 weeks?
2 weeks after the 2nd shot - or 5 weeks after the 1st shot.
I did not know this. So for vaxx vs. unvaxxed measurements they are counting a person 5+ weeks out from their first jab of Pfizer or Moderna as vaccinated? I thought you had to be 2 weeks out of being double jabbed to be considered vaccinated. For J&J I thought it was 2 weeks out from the single shot regimen.
No, you're right. I was generalizing for the Pfizer (3 weeks) and Moderna (3-4 weeks) time span between the 1st and 2nd shot. From the 2nd shot, 2 weeks.
OK, gotcha. I think you have to be 2 weeks out from your first jab to be considered partially vaccinated for the sources that track that as a category.
Alex, I am doctor living in NSW. Many have expressed doubts about the total number of vaccinated in New South Wales. The real figure is probably 70-80%.
From the start, the ICU doctors I speak with have said the Covid affects the the vaccinated and unvaccinated equally.
Would love to talk to you - or those physicians. Alexberensonauthor at protonmail is most secure.
I'm no doctor but I can tell you that here in New Zealand where it is officially touted that vax rates are up over 90 percent, our regional health boards are on record as saying that this percentage estimate is derived from anyone who has interacted with the health system in the last 12 months. Ridiculously problematic. That means all the people that are relatively healthy and don't go for checkups annually are not factored into our national vax percentages. One might presume this 'unseen' part of the population may have a high non vax rate as they will be healthier generally and see less benefit in the vax. This could drastically alter the true percentage of vaxed in our country. Chicanery everywhere you look!
Wow - Nick. I'm not sure that this is also happening in Australia. But I havn't consulted a physician in almost 3 years and am unvaccinated - so would be amongst those actually uncounted, if that was the criterion. Husband and I have followed the FLCCC prophylactic protocol for the last year.
Yup. They claim its now rich data cause info on age race etc is there. But what good is that if its unreliable when you claim you need this magical 90 percent mark. It's crazy you can get at a drive thru and so there's no simple record taken down and collated nationally. Here's a very interesting vid on the vax in nz. Please share...https://www.bitchute.com/video/dASUoQ92PTbD/
Hi Vicki - May I ask what you're taking and how much? I have some IVM and HCQ here but have hesitated to take it as a prophylactic.
We know it’s the shots causing problems not anything else in healthy people.
'Affects the vaccinated and unvaccinated equally' logical conclusion: the vaccines are ineffective, correct?
By his logic nothing - against COVID. Obviously God knows what on cardiac muscle. Now the monsters want to squirt this glop into 6 month old bodies!?
While several countries have stopped jabbing under 30, some have stopped completely, most won't vaxx the children because they are not at risk, the US and a few others keep on running the line. Now 600 million useless masks are being bought by taxpayer money, and quick tests that would have been excellent 2 years ago, they were ready in April or May of 2020. But then the government wanted the PCR kit, which is no test.
All about making the Fauci's richer and richer.
Today I visited with another needlle happy friend. To my surprise Kennedy's book lay on the bench, with a marker about half way... everyone will know soon now. See if anyone can get that man unthroned.
It’s possible if we tell our more educated friends to “prove RFK jr wrong” more might read it. Pride thing.
N95 masks are only good for 2 hours of use inside and 30 minutes outside.
Masks are completely unnecessary outdoors unless for first responders or another person who will be up close and personal with strangers. The only exception being if a person is in an extremely crowded situation. But the N95 masks are the only masks that are even reasonably effective indoors. Ultimately, masks are severely limited in their efficacy.
Yes, that's what I understood from that comment too. For people sick enough to be in ICU with Covid it doesn't matter whether they were vaccinated or not, the vaccines are not making any difference.
All the Fake clinical trials by Pfizer and Moderna,et al, had Absolute effectiveness of 1.2% or less. So given the large populations vaccinated vs the small clinical trials,the end effect of vaccination to prevent covid approaches Zero. The "vaccines " have had Zero effect on the trajectory of this Virus. Only dangerous Side Effects in the Jabbed.
This level of effect of the shots has varied according to which variant is being considered. Omicron seems to exhibit the highest percentage of breakthrough infection so far. Whether that is surpassed by BA.2 or some future variant remains to be seen.
A doctor in a large hospital in Belgium said on local TV in October, that all the covid patients in the hospital were vaccinated. None unvaccinated. That means something. It is not statistically right, but Belgium was at that time somewhere between 75 and 80% vaccinated.
If I am not mistaken the UK data shows a similar trend. I suspect the differences we are seeing in the data between western countries has more to do with how efficient their respective 'roll outs' were and timing of same, and the accuracy of their data collection.
Israel as well.
they pressure people to get this vaxxx - if you want to get a surgery, or any other hospitalization etc. need to be vaxxed against covid first
So, the injected chemicals do... what?
Obviously something very important to our ruling class of tin pot dictators, as they want this substance in every body worldwide. Clearly it has nothing to do with improving health, freedom or quality of life.
That is the million-dollar question. Is it a simple control issue, or is there something else behind it? Because it obviously has nothing to do with altruism. That is never forced.
Sorry, can you be more specific in your question? Are you being rhetorical or asking a question? Just want to make sure. If rhetorical, right. If question, Dr Malone’s substack has great answers. And of all the articles I’ve ever read on this whole mess scientifically I think this is one of the best:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/stabilising-the-code
It is not rhetorical, but as many issues facing us now, the answers are not clear and are not being provided by the opaque politicians attempting to force a myriad of bad ideas upon us, or by their elitist backers who hold the true power behind the curtain. Interesting article, but that is just a piece of evidence leading toward the confusion culminating in the original question. A follow-up question, how does forcing everyone to get this shot fit into the goals of the Great Reset? Some have postulated the idea it is to cull the numbers of humanity. While I do not fully endorse this theory, neither would I argue against it. Has it saved more lives than it has taken? And if so, will that still be true five or ten years from now?
I think that’s easy. The whole thing was orchestrated. Planned. Watch Event, what is it called Event 201 from end of 2019. Check out twitter comments from our opposers. They’ve brainwashed the masses. I don’t think it’s as many as they want us to think it is but they still got a huge number to believe AND to PROPAGATE the lies. Some may be shills, trolls. But many actually believe the lies and try to spread them like evangelists.
I’m in the appt desk of a Drs ofc, I had a lady tell me it was the unvaxxed causing the variants. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m realistic, I don’t 100 percent disagree with her just maybe 75 percent. Flu can mutate in a year or less , why can’t c19? and flu vax uptake is not as much as c19 in some countries. Viruses, if real ....
(To the virus deniers: yeah yeah, I’m not getting into that “no virus / germ vs terrain theory” dialogue in this comment people, it’s a bridge too far for me, at least right now, your side comments make you sound like ? History buffs at best. I’m willing to entertain the theory. I think Luc Montagnier May actual be a proponent?).
Ok, so, if SarsCoV2 is even a real virus, viruses can mutate without the enormous pressure we’re putting on them but we are putting evolutionary pressure on them in the midst of a pandemic. So what’s driving the RAPID mutations is probably the shots. On the other hand the variants seem to be following natural progression from more deadly and less contagious to less deadly and more contagious. The prevalent strains are following normal evolutionary timelines except maybe for excessive speed.
Man I’m sorry people I am on a side track I really just meant to comment on the “believe the lies” . But the lady I was talking to believed totally that it was ONLY the unvaxxed causing the variants. And I wanted to comment that while I think she is wrong, it’s more complex than that.
And even if it doesn't, we do not observe the counterfactual. Claiming that the vaccine made something less severe is unknowable given the data available. And doesn't make sense to report it the way it is reported even if it were true. Either the vaccine is 90% effective against infection or hospitalization, not BOTH together, otherwise the hospitalization numbers make 0 sense. This discrepancy is why so many think the vaccine prevents hospitalization at a high clip even as thr vaccine has become negatively effective against infection
Great point. Hard to claim the vaxx made the symptoms less severe for any given individual when per the BMJ, 80-90% of unvaxxed get mild or no symptoms anyway.
absolutely agree.
Are you allowed to share this information publicly or would you be punished/silenced?
I am in Northern Virginia and a patient of a rather conservative medical practice. The doctors are treating patients with covid. From the beginning this pandemic was really kind of a sloppy scheme. I am an RNMS and well, there are a lot of people that believe anything the government tells them. Shame on the governments. I am completely insulted by all governments taking over the role of one's own doctor, ... most of us do have our own trusted medical professionals. What happened? What is happening and why would our government "authorities" some how believe that they are the one and only power and managers in our lives! No thanks
Dear Rosemary, because they are the best and the brightest and they all vote the "proper" way. That is why bureaucrats not only believe but know in their hearts that they know best and ought to have the power to rule you best. You seem surprised by this. Read some history.
What are you doing about getting the true message out?
Interesting, JS. I also live in NSW - a PhD but not a medical doctor. But my experience supports your hypothesis about the vax figures - really cant see that it can be in the high 90s percent.
I suspect that perhaps this tactic of reporting extremely high vaccination rates is being used to make the remaining unvaccinated who happen to also be isolated feel as if they are in an extreme minority that has no support or chance of resisting?
100% the case. I am in QLD and you only need to look at how empty cafes etc are to realise more than just 10% of people are unvaxed.
How do they keep making these commercials that say otherwise? And how do they get doctors to comply, do they really believe the lies? Just trying to figure out the psychology here.
I am an ER doctor. I spoke to our nursing supervisor who is in charge of giving statistics of admitted Covid patients and deaths. She said that they never ask for the number of these cases who were vaccinated.
Does that mean that the ICU doctors know the vaccination rates, and have observed the same rate among ICU patients? Or are the 'Covid' ICU patients split 50/50 vaxxed/unvaxxed?
I live in Sydney. I also question the stats. Why else would the push to be vaxxed be so utterly relentless every hour of the day, on every msm outlet? And given that it appears about 75% of the thirty odd deaths a day in nsw are vaccinated the real “risk” of remaining unvaccinated is being overstated.
Exactly. Population based statistics are only valid if the populations are statistically equal. If the un-vaxxed population is unhealthy 90+ and the vaxxed population is healthy under 60s, it makes a big difference.
This is why you have double blind clinical trials of an appropriate length. Not truncated trials with non-statistically groups to the overall population.
Also, population level health information is useless in making a personal medical decision. Consider that about 5% of the population will get prostate cancer in their lifetime. If you're a woman, do you care? Not really. And if you're a man, it's about 11%, but not for everyone. You're 3X more likely to have it if your father and other males in your family have had it. So the question isn't what's the percentage of the population that gets prostate cancer; it should be what's the chance I get prostate cancer?!
That is the right way to look at things. And even than it is only statistics. Even if all your ancestors had it you might not. It is like these beautiful young women who have their breasts removed because 2 or 3 women in their family had breast cancer. I just read that, even if the breast is removed, you can get the cancer. In the meanwhile you have yourself mutated. I think life is a chance game, and we have bodies that can cope with a lot. For myself I prefer natural methods for healing, and only go to the doctor if they fail. They seldom do. I go to the doc maybe 3 times in 10 years. Luckily my doc has other patients.
Applied to COVID, the question should be is the vaccine right for me? It's a valid question.
Those that achieve "COVID death" status have an average of 3 co-morbidities. Think about that for a second. That's already one foot in the grave. If you have that many co-morbidities prior to infection, you might want to try and increase your protection level, whatever it is, as a matter of personal choice.
By contrast, if you have zero co-morbidities, the need for vaccination (which is demonstrably non-sterilizing -- i.e., no social benefit to vaccinating the healthy) is practically zero, yet the possibility of adverse reaction is not zero. The vaccine is probably not right for you.
On a societal scale, the math of COVID vaccine mandates, therefore, is likely a net negative. Like the black out on natural immunity, however, this issue is never discussed as a matter of politics, not science.
If you already have three co-morbidities, then getting Covid vaxxed will mean that your co-morbidity collection will have risen to four.
and there are none
I agree with you and Alex and also with the far more relevant distortion because of the 14 day miscategorization.
But my hunch is that the number and effect of the 'too ill to be vaxxed in nursing homes' might have been significant in the beginning but not anymore.
Your comment is the first time it clicked for me. Thanks.
This is all bullshit.
Just based on the fact of how it was promoted to us.... Was supposed to provide complete protection. The goalposts have been moved MULTIPLE times.
Whomever took it was not supposed to be able to be infected, not supposed to be able to harbor and transmit. This last bullshit about hospitalizations and death is just another goalpost they will be forced to move in the near future.
And the majority of people will continue to believe - the truth is too much for them to handle. "There are none so blind as those who will not see"
"At the end of every hard-earned day, people find some reason to believe" said Bruce Springsteen in a folky song recounting a litany of reasons to NOT believe.
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/brucespringsteen/reasontobelieve.html
This has been big pharma's game plan for most of their drugs and vaccines since the 1950's. Few have been paying attention.
I am hopeful either HB1772 or SB5099 will gain momentum and help strip away Inslee's emergency powers.
Good luck. It got done in PA (Wolf's emergency powers ended via vote in May) and in NJ, the close call for Murphy has - so far - prevented much of a return to lockdowns/mask mandates (he reinstated some things on the eve of expiration). But there's a bill afoot, and beginning to get some D support - in deep blue NJ.
NJ, home of the "other nursing home slaughter". It seemed like Cuomo got all the press in that regard, Murphy was, I think, even more "effective".
So many people are speaking out, but the dictator will never relinquish his crown, he's only getting started.
That's why we need momentum. But agree, he's been a dictator.
Did you see the discussions about limiting Inslee's "Emergency Powers" and all of the public input? The legislature could act, but they won't, they are too scared of him and the Dem party. Absurd and terrifying.
Reading on the topic now. Like Phil, I plan to move out of Washington State as soon as my son graduates from high school. Watching the decline of Seattle has been utterly frustrating and obscene. And today, it was just announced that because city jails are overflowing and conditions are so 'poor' for inmates, there will be no more bookings in King County for certain crimes....."The proposal would largely prevent the booking of people accused of, but not yet charged with, offenses like burglary, car theft and drug dealing" (Seattle Times). From the governor who oversteps and operates like a dictator devastating the economic lives of citizens to City of Seattle and King County officials ensuring the rights of drug addicts and criminals over the rights and safety of its citizens who fund them all, Western Washington is no longer a place for building a future.
Ah, smart.
Excellent! And, Brandon's "give me 100 days of wearing a mask, just 100 days", said in a pathetic whisper.
Well it has turned for the vaccine injured, just no one is listening to them, not those who injected them, their doctors, their governments…this is a crime of the biggest scale and it shocks me to the core when people don’t see it.
Yep, Maddie, the girl who's life was destroyed by the Pfiz#r Vax while IN the trials has not been able to get a dollar of assistance from the manufacturer or ANY of the notorious govt vax injury funds. Her parents are destitute and headed for bankruptcy. Imagine the hell others are experiencing!
This is a huge point. Who exactly can be held liable here? Anybody at all?
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THIS IS NOT ABOUT KEEPING YOU HEALTHY. This is about overriding your personal preferences with that of unaccountable ‘experts’. This is about you giving up your autonomy for the collective. And if you happen to be one of the eggs who gets broken, perhaps via vaccine injury or your child regressing in school, the collective will shrug and say you’re simply the cost of making the omelet.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/the-proper-role-of-science
wait be patient-- it will happen
Tangential to this: interviews with Aaron Siri, the attorney who successfully fought mandates and to get the FDA to release Pifzer clinical trial data in 1 year rather than the 75 years they wanted to take:
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/12/after-hours-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-in-court-podcast/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fighting-the-govt-for-pfizer-biontech-covid-19/id1478351211?i=1000545979101
Assuming they are still alive.
I would love to see all cause mortality tracked between vaxxed and unvaxxed. That alone would be interesting. But if we could further stratify by age and health/comorbidity…wow! That would speak volumes.
There is 1 reason they are not running a Vaxed vs unvaxed morbidity…because it will not support the vaxed narrative. Question…what happens if you take steroids for a long period of time? Your body quits producing testosterone. What do you think your Immune system does when you get Jabs every 6 months…soon to be 3 months. Your immune System atrophies and your body relies on those jabs. Now enter health issues from the jab… #EndGame Start bolstering your immune system and stay away from the jab.
Yes, we have an explosion of Acquired Immune Deficiency underway that will become horrifyingly obvious as dormant cancers rear up unopposed killing people in just weeks, not years anymore. This is genocide
ditto. but we will never see it-the narrative is: "the shots don't work but will keep you from getting really sick or die" - no proof but we are from govt & here to help
Those data points were tracked in the Pfizer clinical trials, and in fact there was slightly more mortality in the vaxxed - on the order of 50 IIRC out of 10k participants, although please verify this if you're interested. Now consider that this would have been during the more dangerous alpha/delta era for covid itself, and whilst fewer people in the population had natural immunity, and yet "some other cause" was balancing out and adding 50 to that purported reduction of COVID deaths in the vaxxed vs the unvaxxed. Hmm.. well, since this was a Gold Standard[tm] clinical trial (randomized, double blind, placebo controlled yadda yadda) I think we can officially conclude that the vaxxes have critical problems. But oh wait, that data was not originally made public, after all, it did not relate to the "primary endpoint" (reduction of deaths FROM COVID.) As if you care, arbitrarily, about dying FROM COVID more than dying per se.
Edit: PS those real-world data are available from Public Health England in the UK and Norman Fenton crunches the numbers. Again, what we see is not reassuring for the vaccines, but you will never get statisticians to agree on how to adjust the data.
People like Juan are, and have been, a big part of the problem.
There's absolutely no humility, at all, and full measures of inappropriate condescension.
Worst of all, a bizarre compulsion to carry water for big pharma and big government propaganda.
Self-righteous shits is what they are. Double down lest you be proven wrong and when you ARE proven wrong you change your tone “That’s what I was TRYING to say, you Nazis just take everything the wrong waayyyy”
Exactly my thought!
"If 90% of a population is "vaccinated" and 75% of that SAME population is dying from COVID, then the "vaccine" is STATISTICALLY HAVING AN EFFECT."
ONLY IF YOU ASSUME 100% OF THE POPULATION HAS BEEN EXPOSED!
What it really shows is that NOBODY is "vaccinated" against COVID!!! Full stop.
NOBODY'S VACCINATED!
And even if 100% of the population is exposed some will still not contract Covid, whether it be from natural immunity from having the virus or due to a healthy immune system.
Or it's a weapon.
25 people died during the h1n1 trials and they shut it down. There is absolutely no benign explanation why this has not only continued but has progressed to forcing people to take something that 100% doesn't stop infection or transmission and 100% carries with it serious life threatening side effects.
You might be talking about 1976, yes? The reason it was shut down so quickly then is because vaccine makers were still financially liable. That went away in 1986 for childhood vaccines, and the PREP act covers liablity for these experimental shots. So, no matter how bad things get, they won't have to pay. There's only an up$ide for them.
Yes.
Can we just simplify this already? The IFR is very low overall, and almost nothing at all for the young and healthy. The IFR decreased between July and Dec of last year. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.08.21260210v2
This is just not something to worry about. All the debates stem from statism and leftist, cult "safetyism" that created the panic.
The immune compromised and elderly are most at risk for ANY virus, bacteria or other complication. That's life. Bad flus and other viruses come and go and kill people. Deal with it. We are mere mortals. The amount of time, money and resources thrown at covid was obviously a huge mistake. Fear reigned over pragmatism. It was over a long time ago. Alex has done good work, but until we dismantle the industrial medical complex (in other words, the massive subsidized cartel) and regulatory-captured entities, nothing will change. Dissent is the only way to fight this. Stop wearing masks and stop taking the vax at the individual level. Let others do what they want and take their chances. As for the mandates, freedom is expensive. Quit your job and do something else. Time to live. Vote with your own individual action. Debating inexperienced, biased number crunchers doesn't seem like the right path to me. It just goes in endless circles.
Ughhh this 1000 times over.
Thanks for the reminder, Alex. And, as Dr. Kory implied last Monday, there is a high likelihood that many of the people labeled as "unvaccinated" in the data sets were actually entered as "unknown vaccination status" in the hospital system codes (he said the only two options in some of the hospital codes are "vaccinated" or "status unknown") because for whatever reason, their status was unknown, thus, there is a high likelihood that any stats that identify "unvaccinated" probably actually include "vaccinated" people as well
Good point. Also, the authorities have the advantage of using the slipperiest definitions for these terms. Unvacinated can simply mean there were only 2 shots administered and the patient did not get "boosted" and therefore was not fully vaxxed. Of course, they use timing such as 2 weeks for the vax to take effect. In the meantime they are "unvaxed."
Always a racket. Anything to cook the books and only in one direction.
He added - the question should always be- were they given early treatment or not? He said that is a much more important question to ask than the vaccination status.
Excellent point, as our healthcare system hangs on "coding".
We're an innumerate society and the powers they be know this and take great advantage of it.
Exactly!! Most Americans do not even know the population of their country. OR how many people die each year. So the propagandists have an easy job.
This! Too easy!
I feel like I am losing my mind. My daughter lives in NYC and she is lost to the cult.
Good job! Yes approx 330 million. Approx 2.5 million deaths each year. If they ever put that on CNN the interest in all of the Covid narrative would wane. We have 800,000 deaths so far, which is 400,000 per year with flu disappeared, of course. Which is a completely expected death event if flu were not 'deleted'
40 years of Re-Education Camps, aka, Public Schools have destroyed Critical Thinking.
Common Core Math.
Albert Bourla admitted on January 10th that the current Pfizer vax does not work against Omicron. Pfizer is apparently coming out with a new Omicron specific shot. So why are people still getting vaccinated?? I’m NOT vaxed (and never will be) but let’s say I wanted to start now. I wouldn’t be “fully vaxed” until the END OF JULY! We will be two more variants away from omicron my then. By the way, I had Omicron and immediately took Ivermectin. All I had was a sore throat for 3 days. My husband was the same. It works!
exactly. The other obvious question is how did they create a new shot so quickly? Tested even less than the original? Or not tested at all, most likely. SCAM.
It's all a scam. They created the virus for the vaccine. They knew the flu wouldn't be enough to scare people into modifying their genes with untested nano-lipid technology, so they created a plandemic.
I don't think there is anything remarkable about rapid mRNA "vaccine" development. I've seen no claims of extensive testing, why should they, if they can get away with "testing lite" as with earlier efforts? The newer jab might be good against a newer variant -- for a while. But since it's based on the same mRNA technology, I would expect it to fade as rapidly and have the same highly risky side effects. I agree it's all a scam, one to make money, and perhaps, for more insidious ends.
Because it's not about a virus.
Wow, that's an amazing statistical inference your reader makes. COVID hysteria is the failure of the public education system writ large.
Yeah, seriously, Juan acts like he stumbled on some deep mathematical truth Alex would have missed.
Yeah, but unfortunately for him he was using the "new math".
King Jay is all-in on the Great Reset, and he's using our businesses as chips. And when data gets inconvenient, just stop showing it!
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/lying-with-statistics
The reader asserts anyone who disagrees with him has a thick skull. And THAT HE PROVES THINGS WITH STATISTICS. AND CAPITAL LETTERS.
That's the problem. Or, at least, my problem.
If he said it's plausible the vaccine is having an effect, then there could be a conversation around age stratification, vaccination status definitions, etc.
If the "vaccine" is having an effect, what is it? Because (reader example) 75% of deaths are among the "vaccinated." If it's not preventing death for a disease syndrome that most people experience as cold-like symptoms--or none, given the very high proportion of asymptomatic "cases." The IFR is purportedly ~0.1% (Stanford's Ioannidis' study out recently). I'd ask, why are the deaths so high in the "vaccinated"...
Y’all are making this too complicated. The risks of Covid-19 and the benefits of the gene therapy compounds were greatly overstated to the degree those making those statements simply no longer have any credibility. There’s no excuse for the bullying over vaccines or masks period!
Right if they don't have the confidence in their own vaccines which we can see by the fact they're not legally obligated plus those who take it still don't go about their lives normally. So why the hell should we take it
Absolutely, the sample sizes in these comparisons are vanishingly small vs. ridiculously big.
We went for vacation to Central America few years ago. The apartment was advertised as Balcony with Oceanview. Then they placed bunch of pictures of the Pacific Ocean. In reality the “Oceanview” was a stream of water less than 4 inch thick draining into the ocean. When he retires Fauci can easily manage one of those apartment complex.
Lol this is so funny🤣 right on!
Victory today for those who want to live like a human being in San Francisco and not get vaccinated! Looks like the work of the vax stats truthers is paying off! Thanks, Alex, for getting the word out!
https://www.sfdph.org/dph/alerts/files/C19-07-Safer-Return-Together-Health-Order.pdf
As of today, San Francisco businesses are “allowed” to admit patrons if they state they are declining vaccination for religious or medical reasons. Thanks SF for “allowing” businesses to not discriminate on the basis of religion or medical condition!
<< Beginning on February 1, 2022, operators of such Businesses are allowed, but not required by this Order, to accept exemptions from the vaccination requirements subject to certain health precautions, as follows. Patrons and staff may be exempt from the vaccination requirements under this section only upon stating either of the following: (1) the individual is declining vaccination based on Religious Beliefs or (2) the individual is excused from receiving any COVID-19 vaccine due to Qualifying Medical Reasons. >>
OK, but why not just eliminate it entirely? I would be incredibly paranoid that someone would spit in my food (or worse) if I declared a religious exemption! This seems like a desperate way to hold onto the phone-based verification system while releasing pressure that would otherwise topple the system. We have to insist that this manipulative ecosystem be made to disappear pronto.
Oh come on stop being paranoid.
First of all (unfortunately) the city is not requiring restaurants to accept religious exemptions, only allowing them. This means that any restaurant offering religious exemptions is doing it because they actually want your business. I really think most businesses would rather expand their clientele. What the city is doing is offering businesses the opportunity to not discriminate. You can safely avoid the businesses that refuse to grant religious exemptions.
Secondly the way we hasten the demise of this "manipulative ecosystem" is to encourage businesses to make it as easy as possible for patrons to claim their religious exemption. Of course simply ignoring the rule is one way, but other more timid establishments may be convinced to offer some kind of quick and easy way to claim religious exemption. Imagine a greeter who says, would you like to submit proof of vaccination or a no-questions-asked religious or medical exemption? Thank you, right this way.
By the way every person who does not consent to vaccination and sincerely believes it is wrong to lie when signing a consent form, qualifies for a religious exemption, with the religious belief being "it is wrong to lie." Every religion will say it is wrong lie in this context, even atheism! Details here: http://howtosee2020.com/
Oh STFU Juan
Even if the 90%/75% argument were true, it merely establishes a reality that AT BEST the benefit from the shots is marginal.
Which demolishes absolutely any argument for coercive mandates (again).
Let's not forget these high percentages are merely relative risk reduction anyway. The trials themselves (which didn't include any population one might argue the vaccine is good for) concluded the actual risk reduction to be around the 1 percent mark
Oh the clinical trials for the vaccines are a study in much ado about not much.
The highest infection rate among the placebo group was the Janssen trial at ~1.5%. Pfizer was around 0.8-0.9%. This at a time when the test positivity rate in the US was ranging from 5-10%.
https://allfactsmatter.substack.com/p/the-covid-vaccine-trials-tell-us?r=pf1ap&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Basically the best way to avoid COVID-19 was to be in a Pfizer clinical trial.
Who got those shots? What was their demographic and health status? How long ago? Since they knew they got vaxxed, how did their behavior change afterwards? Since unvaxxed knew they were unvaxxed, how did their behavior change over this time? Population density? Employment status? Etc, etc. This is what studies are for. Otherwise, similar people should be matched up and compared over a period of time.
No it doesn't. If that were case be way bigger difference. Plus I guarantee 90% of people are not vaccinated these are other lies we shouldn't trust
Remember, the 90%/75% argument applies only if true. How likely it is to be true is a different question.
Essentially, the very best argument they have is not all that good.
Their comment would be right if the proper multivariate analysis were completed. However, the refusal to acknowledge that 30 somethings unvaxxed aren't dying, but 80 somethings unvaxxed are and were too sick to be vaxxed anyway, is entirely misleading. It's like when the cdc pushes "95% of deaths are amoung the unvaxxed" when they try to count the ones who died when the vaccine wasn't even available. They continue to lie with disingenuous statistics because they know most of the population doesn't understand it.
Can we please all admit that none of any of this has to do with health or protection from a virus. This is about getting us all to accept a digital ID so that we can be monitored and controlled. Everything else is just noise. Wake up people. DO NOT COMPLY!!!
One cannot perform the proper multivariate analysis, because the data required is (thankfully) not observable. What's one left with is garbage multivariate analysis with some ovservables picking up the effect from the unobserved drivers - behavior.
That is true. Garbage data in, garbage data out. If the "non partisan" agencies hadn't been partisan and gave us proper data, then this wouldn't even be a subject right now.
This is why they HAVE to vaccinate the healthy <50s to more and more absurd levels until they got down to babies. Vaccinating people who were unlikely to have severe symptoms in the first place helps make the vaccines look like they're working.
It's the only way I can wrap my head around the mandates for workers and college students. They make no logical sense otherwise based upon anything we know about these vaccines, or covid.
Great points…I hadn’t looked at it that way.
Perhaps you could do a post explaining about adjusted ratios and demonstrate how they are misleading so we can recognize the false framing of the data and be knowledgable when discussing it with others. If you have already done so, perhaps link to it when discussing it.
That would really be helpful. And your explanation is well put.
This is a point that I've seen in a number of Substacks, a point the vaxx fanatics and Covidiots REFUSE to acknowledge let alone consider or incorporate into their thinking:
Many elderly folks who die unvaxxed are unvaxxed BECAUSE they're elderly and not healthy enough to tolerate the vaxxes. So THEIR numbers disproportionately inflate the unvaxxed deaths number.
But no vaxx fanatic and no Covidiot wants to acknowledge how this fact perverts the numbers AND their arguments.
Nellie Bowles on Bari Weiss' Substack from last Friday, for example.
Alex, please keep teaching them. They grew up in failing schools and do not understand math!
They are not dying from Covid. They are dying from the injuries, blood clots, cancer, autoimmune disease, heart attacks, plus numerous other horrific side effects that Doctors and nurses risk there very livelihood if they properly report what these vaccines are causing. Hospitals are literally killing people with remdesivir and respirators as directed by NIAID and NIH If they report cause of death is Covid they actually get paid by NIH and NIAID. All for a faux pandemic with a mortatility rate of approximately .025%. When will people realize this entire pandemic narrative is an engineered hoax. Period. If starting tomorrow morning we just stopped all the responses, all the lockdowns, all the vaccines it would end. Except for dealing with the many people that are eventually going to either live with crippling health problems or die from these horrific mRNA injections. Search for and watch Senator Ron Johnson’s hearing on Covid. Why are people still discussing this as if the responses just need some tweaking. This entire thing is being driven by the most evil psychopaths the world has ever seen. We have in two years gone from a health care system where you could count on Doctors trying to help you to Doctors and Hospitals trying to kill you to serve lord Fauci. The bad actors in this thing are spelled out in Dr Reiner Fuellmich’s class action lawsuits against the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, WHO, governments and political leaders worldwide. He is leading a team of 34 lawyers. Look at his site
www.stopworldcontrol.com. His team makes it pretty clear this crime is about three things. 1. Control 2. Population reduction 3. Money
If the mRNA injections worked, even a smidgen, then there would be hardly any new cases in a place like Israel. This is one of the best testing grounds and it is more than obvious that these poisons are a miserable failure and only work to destroy the immune system.
The vaccines don't work...there...I said it
I am not smart enough to fully understand this, but I'm trusting Alex.
It's actually fairly simple.
There are quite a few (the exact number is unknown) of elderly people who are too sick to get the vax. These are the exact kind of people who are most at risk - in other words, most likely to die if they get Covid. So they catch Covid and they die. Did they die because they were unvaxxed? No, they died because they are old and sick. Technically they are unvaxxed, but it wasn't the lack of vax that killed them.
The only way to compare the numbers honestly is to have clinical trials which account for these factors - age and health. So you are comparing apple to apples - where the only difference is whether or not they have been jabbed.
It would be very easy to do this type of comparison if the companies hadn't blown up the original trials. Of course, that's the reason why they blew up the trials - so no one could make an apples to apples comparison.
As have the flu and pneumonia and whatever end stage illness hit them, which all somehow have disappeared.
Well put.
Maybe the FDA could find Pfizer to do that kind of unbiased clinical trial .
No, isn't this the other way? Forr governments around the world to be honest (or the lemmings disguised as journalists to do their job and insist on this) in their reporting on deaths and separate those who chose not to be vaccinated from those who were advised not to be vaccinated.
"There are quite a few (the exact number is unknown) of elderly people who are too sick to get the vax." Are there providers actually withholding the vax from these people? Everything I've heard leads me to believe these are the people the 'health authorities' want to vax the most--older with risk factors--they are usually first in line.
I agree. I have yet to hear of a person who is too sick to vax. I have several family members over 75 with multiple co-morbidities eaxh and all are double vaxed and boosted.
If the people who get vaccinated are less likely to die in the first place, then the vaccines may not be having an effect. We just don't really know.
Clinical trials adjust for the factors (age and health status) which are known to have a huge effect on Covid mortality.
We do know-- geez is everyone here just pulling it out of their a$$?
Ditto!
I see your point, but there are people who have proven to be trustworthy. A few...
This is why the "my symptoms are mild because of my vaccine" argument is so illiterate and infuriating.
For people of relatively young age and normal health status, covid is mostly going to be mild/moderate. Vaccinated or not.
People of relatively old age and poor health status will always make up the majority of covid deaths. Vaccinated or not.
The vaccine fanatics always conveniently ignore health and age status when comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated because this threatens the "vaccines are working" narrative.
One story claimed that someone who died of Covid would've been a lot worse if he weren't vaccinated. I'm not kidding.
Lmfaoooo
I am a covid survivor.... took a total of 4 asprin... and I am covid vaccine-free since Ihave natural immunity... so why do I need to be injected with a genetic experiment that does not work? I am not an anti-vaxer since I have made sure my children received the tried and tested vaccines that have been shown to be relatively safe. This mRNA poison is alarmingly dangerous and would never have been approved under normal circumstances. The level of corruption associated with this is mind boggling and the criminal class posing as politicians and their pseudo scientific experts all need weeding out. Doctors who have accepted payments to give these shots have been ethically compromised and should resign.
Thaipixie, now that you've seen what can happen with vaccines on a massive scale, do you still trust them?
https://howbad.info/
Cici... the old style vaccines that were developed before the 1960's in universities etc. are relatively safe. These genetic experiments no. The papillomavirus vaccines were causing problems with women in particular and Merck and EU suppressed information while millions of young women particularly took that poison encouraged by their frightened mothers (cancer of the ovaries and uterus fears). So I do not trust Big Pharma and that is why its important to never take a vaccine until proven to be exceedingly low risk and that may take more than 10 years... in the mean time what are your risks from the disease? Diseases such as measles we all had that as kids and mumps and chicken pox no vaccines.
The whole mainstream narrative is ridiculous because:
1. Unvaccinated are tested much more than vaccinated.
2. There’s a healthy user bias: People who choose to take a vaccine are healthier (on average) than people who don’t.
3. Some people are too frail to take the vaccine. These people are obviously at high risk for Covid if they’re not even strong enough to take the vaccine.
4. PCR cycle thresholds are run higher on people who are unvaccinated than people who are vaccinated. This inflates positive results in the unvaccinated.
5. Partially vaccinated, and up to 2 weeks after the second dose is often counted as unvaccinated. This skews the stats considerably. Also, this is when the vast majority of illness occurs (up to 2 weeks after the second dose).
Bottom line: all mainstream statistics for cases and deaths are heavily skewed towards unvaccinated relative to vaccinated. *And yet, many regions still show higher cases per capita among the vaccinated.*
Another thing that skews hospitalization data is that the CDC changed guidance for hospitals to test all unvaccinated admissions but only test vaccinated hospital admissions if they demonstrated COVID symptoms. Incidental COVID hospitalizations are heavily distorted toward unvaccinated, but as we know they do not, or mostly have not, made distinctions between hospitalization because of COVID and hospitalization with incidental COVID.
Yes - this is the main reason for my point 1.
Reference for 4? That would be huge if true.
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-to-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among-vaxxd/
Something Dr. Pierre Kory said at Senator Ron Johnson's hearing sticks with me. He said (paraphrasing) "there really are only 2 groups that matter. There are the treated and the untreated."
I'm finding really hard to get detailed info out of my local government on health status and even detailed age. Also no other details like type of 'vaccine', death in/out of hospital, with or of COVID-19. Information is critical to making a proper risk assessment!
Most egregious to me when rates are published is that they have resorted to 2 classifications - 'fully vaccinated' and 'not fully vaccinated'. They provide vague definitions of days since injected but from the public data it's impossible to look at efficacy by zero dose, 1 dose, 2 dose,... When they obfuscate their reporting I immediately ask "WHY?" And the obvious conclusion is that they have something to hide!
same reason FDA needs to delay releasing documents for 75 years
Here's an interview with the attorney, Aaron Siri, who got the court to tell FDA it has to be released more quickly:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fighting-the-govt-for-pfizer-biontech-covid-19/id1478351211?i=1000545979101
yes, but they are simply goign to refuse and nothing will be done, certainly by this govt
It seems some people haven't heard of the healthy user effect, and other confounders of observational studies. As Mr. Berenson points out, the actual randomized controlled trials of the vaccines didn't show a reduction in all-cause mortality.
Shrank WH, Patrick AR, Brookhart MA. Healthy user and related biases in observational studies of preventive interventions: a primer for physicians. J Gen Intern Med. 2011 May;26(5):546-50. doi: 10.1007/s11606-010-1609-1. Epub 2011 Jan 4. PMID: 21203857; PMCID: PMC3077477.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21203857/
All cause mortality will be the metric to watch. From Pfizer's failure with all cause mortality in the initial study to current casualty counts year over year. The large life insurance company in Indiana(?) recently sounded the alarm on increased death rates among 18-64 year olds.
Yes I know the authorities blame the virus, or fallback to lockdown stress and skipped medical checkups, etc. But an honest reading of VAERS (and the similar reporting systems worldwide) tells us you can't rule out the jabs.
Thank you for this, just heard this term for the first time yesterday.
Poor Juan getting dragged
People cannot see this because they’re unwilling to see what’s happening.
For many it’s too painful to awaken to the fact that they’ve been lied to for decades.
Isn’t this the sad truth? There’s quite a few like this in my family and circle of dear friends, just madness :(
Yes - sad. Had a loved one wake up.
Was so confused and angry. Yelling.
It’s painful - a sign of the demonic running amuck in society.
Very good stuff. Keep fighting Alex!
El Gato Malo has a great piece called Stats with Cata a few weeks back - showing how saline could be shown to have “vaccine efficiency.” It’s a great simplistic breakdown.
The need to push constant boosters into a wave because of the definition.
Say today they said “only 15% of deaths this week were boosted and 30% of the population has had a booster!” They are comparing apples to oranges. What they would need to do is go back to when those people got infected to see what percentage of the population WAS boosted 5-7 weeks ago for deaths. Doing that the boosters almost always show negative efficiency.
It’s even worse when someone gets “boosted” in a wave - they become very likely to get sick <14 days after the shot. They get called “not up to date” and that scares more people into the same stupidity.
Here's the link to el gato malo's column:
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bayesian-datacrime-defining-vaccine
Thank you!!!!
Yup. omicron wave is 40 days long. 20 days up and 20 days down. If someone gets 'boosted" in the middle of the wave, they technically are counted as just fully vaxxed for 26 days and boosted for 14.
Two years in and we still don’t have solid numbers from those recovered. NATURAL IMMUNITY!! Keep screaming Alex. History will show you were on the side of truth.
The way to measure is against baseline like the Department of Defense Data leaked by the whistleblowers and reported at the January 24th Senate Hearing. People show their ignorance when they repeat the mantra "numbers don't lie". The hypnotized can not hear logic. Indeed they do not WANT to hear logic. The people holding on to their comfort zone that government can be trusted so hard will not give that up till death. They will buy tombstones for their babies that say they are so glad they sacrificed them to the shots. Arguing with the hypnotized is like arguing with AI troll bots programmed to demoralize people who are aware of the deception. Things are happening behind the censorship. The shots are going to be shut down. The Great Goodbye signified by the collapsing athletes on TV has just begun. This is going to be like watching the Hindenburg crash in slow motion for 10 years. And there will be a tipping point that leads to the jailers of humanity being dragged out into the streets by their own bodyguards. But they are going to destroy as many people with the HUMAN EMBRYONIC KIDNEY CELL LINE DEVELOPED VACCINES as they possibly can before it all goes down in flames. Human Embryonic Kidney cells are one of the human sources in the monoclonal antibodies too. They don't tell you that at the clinic do they?
Just looked at Israel's numbers. It is not looking good still 80,000 a day and the highest per day death rate since the start of Corona. Denmark's data is not much better. Both countries are highly vaccinated These countries and others have crossed the Rubicon. Antibody Dependent Enhancement.
Watch the videos out of Canada today, especially through Rebel News. History is being made on the Alberta-U.S. border now. Hopefully will end without any casualties. Some videos have been posted on Twitter.
With these "vaccines", there is another reason why the vaccinated Covid death numbers look a little better than the unvaxxed.
Imagine this. Imagine you threw a bunch of people into the middle of the ocean and you wanted to prove that this technique would teach people to swim. Now half the people who you threw into the ocean managed to swim to shore and the other half drowned.
Well, you start measuring how well your technique worked 2 hours after the experiment began and voila, you end up with 100% success for your technique! Never mind that you managed to eliminate all the least capable swimmers in those first 2 hours. By starting the measurement of results after 2 hours, you can prove near perfect outcomes.
Now back to the Covid vaccines. If you only start measuring people's health outcomes 6 weeks after the first shot is given, then all those least healthy people who die in the first 6 weeks magically don't count! Just like your group of people who already knew how to swim!
These vaccine trials were sold as if you took them that you would not end up in the hospital. This is truly not the case regardless of the patient comorbidities they were told they would be safe from catching viral pneumonia. These vaccine trials are messing with the immune system. Most people can fight an infection without medication or hospitalization. When people in their 50's after being vaccinated are ending up in the hospital and that patient tells you that they are glad that they never took the booster should tell you something. I feel bad for everyone who took these vaccine trials to keep a job. Your health is most important if you are a good worker, you can find a job any place. This risk of getting sick disabled or death is not worth that chance in my mind. People dont realize that most vaccine trials after 7 to 10 years. Never make final approval by the FDA or for safety in humans.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at the absolute braindead, follow Fauci like a zombie stupidity, these people are displaying. Dude probably didn't were a mask, then 2, then 3, then a KN95 with tape on each side, all while putting his mail in the microwave prior to touching it, followed by reporting on every unvaccinated person who died, ignoring that most have severe underlying health issues while completely ignoring the vaccine injuries; that are in the 10's of thousands along with the nothing to see here attitude with regard to the vaccinated who are dying faster than ever. Yeah, he is a toolbox
Lets also not forget a lot of the 10% unvaxxed that would be dying can't get the vaccines because they are too sick. They also miss the fact that if 75% of all deaths are vaxxed there is an issue with the vax. Last I checked no one is dying of viruses that we have other vaccines for. Seems like people only die from this virus while vaccinated
Or they're dying from the in-hospital 'treatment'. AS, I believe Dr. Marek entreated in the Roundtable, "Don't go to the hospital."
I will let Ted Nugent have the final word on the Jab and the Jabbed!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/X5LyZlcyrk07/
Ted spoke "thusly" and in their own language!
I would love to see Ted go after Commie Dem Fauci. It would be an epic beat down.
That is the stuff dreams are made of…
In my Statistics Class, I learned that all numbers were probability, as long as no one lied
They have lied to us since the beginning. This is the worst vaccine ever distributed. Not tested properly and rammed down peoples throats using fear and intimidation to get people to comply. Its not working and Big Pharma is not your friend.
Don't know about the stats, but talked to one person yesterday who had COVID in the early days and recovered, then got vaccinated and came down with delta over Christmas and became very sick but pulled out of it fortunately (was given ivermectin), and then, a few weeks later came down with omicron--a triple whammy. My only question is: did the vaccinations contribute to his subsequent illnesses?
Who dies the most from Covid? The most frail!
And the most frail aren’t able to get the vaccine!
This seems the biggest fraud when calculating the vaccinated v the unvaccinated!
Wait, if 75% of the population that is vaxxed is dying, THAT's why I should get the jab? Do these people have any sense of how ridiculous they sound?
Alex, I love you, but please get this through
your thick skull: If 90% of a population wear
red shoes, but only 75% of that SAME
population is dying from COVID, then the
wearing of red shoes is STATISTICALLY HAVING AN
EFFECT. If no effect, then both numbers
would be 90%... Since it’s lower, it tells us
there’s reduction in mortality as a result of
the wearing of red shoes. Just… Please… acknowledge
this fact because this my friend makes your
reporting biased.
Your assertion that adjusted numbers don’t
matter is patently FALSE. YES it does matter.
If 2 people in a population don’t wear red
shoes, and 2 people die, then 100% of the
red shoe hesitant died. Adjusting by population size
IS THE WAY YOU MEASURE THIS
Your analysis is only valid if you start out with the SAME population with the same health challenges wearing red shoes or getting vaccinated or whatever. If all the people who wear red shoes die and you find out that only people over age 85 who were in hospice wore red shoes then does wearing red shoes cause people to die at higher levels or is it because they were in hospice when they put on the red shoes? People in hospice shouldn't get vaccinated - because the entire point of hospice is to make the end of life comfortable - NOT to extend life. So if everyone in hospice doesn't get vaxxed that dramatically affects the numbers. There are around 1.5 million Americans in hospice each year. Almost all of them die.