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Maybe the fact that the MRNA/lipid nanoparticles DO NOT stay in the arm muscle as promised by Fauci/CDC/Big Pharma, but float around the whole body including crossing the blood brain barrier, and then amass in the heart/brain/organs? I would think this is a pretty significant finding and should cause a lot of concern, and reason to STOP injecting people (just me I guess). Everything stems from this key failure, and yet it is ignored by both sides?

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It is the most f*cked up way to do a vaccine. The mRNA goes everywhere. Spike gets made everywhere. Clotting happens everywhere. And then the auto-immune attack happens everywhere. Cardiac and neurological damage galore.

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All that and you get the virus anyway.

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while getting really sick and infecting others. such efficacy!

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Yeah I have friends who have had a zillion jabs and now they are sick all the time. One with Covid the other with several other URIs.

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The enormous amount of carnage and death caused by the mRNA "vaccines" is intentional.

Read this book, and you will finally understand why these diabolical "vaccines" are being used:

The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health, by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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The first 100 pages of this book will drop your jaw repeatedly. Alex’s book is excellent. RFK’s book is off the chart.

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The final chapter of RFK Jr.'s book is even more eye-opening than the first 100 pages.

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Yes.

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Add Robert Yoho's Butchered by Healthcare, he has covid podcast too

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Best investment! The information is staggering. I’m reading Alex’s book next.

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Alex's book is an easy read compared to Kennedy's. RFK Jr.'s book is truly staggering, overwhelming, devastating, and monumental. I think it's the most important book of our time.

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Easy read yet informational. It's written so those with absolutely no medical background can understand it.

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True. But Pandemia's scope of inquiry is absolutely minuscule compared to what Kennedy presents in the Real Anthony Fauci. And one does not need a medical or scientific background to appreciate or understand RFK Jr.'s book. It is dense, and long, and difficult to read because of the nature of the facts he presents, but at the same time it's brilliantly written, in a lively, engaging style.

In case you're wondering, I'm not Bobby Kennedy's publicist. I just have tremendous admiration for this magnum opus and think everyone needs to read it.

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Agree with about RFK’s book, which remains #1 best seller in spite of media blackout. Apparently scant few in the political class haven’t read the copy RFK Jr. sent to every member of Congress. Or, if they did, they find big Pharma campaign donations and insider trading more important than the terrifying truth.

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Members of Congress can read?

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I agree! Both are must reads. However, RFK Jr.'s has outstanding documentation.

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I had to buy the audiobook too. LOL.

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it is very difficult to read. I think he wrote each chapter separately as they don't flow well and some things are repeated over and over. But it is well worth the read! Shocking!

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“Toxic Legacy” probly more important. Glyphosate in our food, water, wine. Pharma ain’t the only industry poisoning America

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Dr Scott Atlas' book is fantastic as well

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While I don't believe this was his intention, he finished the job of turning me against Trump.

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Wow....the brutal truth of him I guess? How he is, I mean. I've indeed Atlas' book & 2 copies of RFKjr's - one to loan out to friends I'd like to help see the truth

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anyone at this point who is not aware of the intentionality has not been paying attention or unbale to confront what happened, is happening and will continue too since to date there has been zero accountability for any of this. Why would it change?

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Many many younger people who are pragmatic & too busy to do the research. They work a lot have a busy family life &have very little free time

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Add Dr. Peter Breggin’s book “Covid19 and The Global Predators: We Are The Prey” to your reading list as well. Then listen to the Joe Rogan podcasts with Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Robert Malone. You’ll know more after that than the director of the CDC.

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And sadly waaay more than some of the Supreme Court Justices!

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I listened to both podcasts with the doctors and what an education I received an all things NIH, COVID, Fauci, our deteriorating U.S. medical system, and much more. So worth the 3 or so hours to watch both. I’m going to watch them both again just to keep the info top of mind.

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I second the Breggin book endorsement.

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While the virus multiplies in your sinuses, throat and upper respiratory system...Go figure

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And starts from mucus system, where it sits waiting to attack. Kill it here. CHLORHEXIDINE

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is chlorhexidine comparable to hydroxychloroquine?

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Betadine nasal spray or viridine (povidone iodine) nasal spray is on the list. You can get the viridine at most drug stores. Almost impossible to find the betadine spray online.... I am NOT a DR.... but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn.

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Dr. McCullough mentioned povidone iodine 10% in a 1:10 dilution as nasal spray, also to gargle with it. He also said you could use Hydrogen peroxide similarly (can't remember the dilution offhand), and he also mentioned Betadine. McCullough said the infection begins in the nasal passages and you have a couple of days to zap it with the nasal sprays. This makes sense to me, because when you think about it, the various covid tests are done in the NOSE!

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yes easy to get

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No, it is topical.

Iodine .5% is enough per McCullough, for nose or mouth, available at any drug store.

It may not stop an infection but it will drastically reduce the viral load, give your body time to mount a defense.

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Iodine works great to mitigate a lessen!

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thank you, will look into it further/later. GB

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No. It is chlorhexidine, and is found in some oral mouth wash

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Introducing a genetic material that doesn’t match your DNA and the proteins. In time your body will attract itself to rid because it’s foreign to ones genetic characteristic we are the same but each of us are different.

The immune system as whole is a fabulous system but we all are unique in our own individual genetics. Example would be we have all heard about people waiting for a transplant but they have not found a perfect from someone. In some cases one maybe found that’s not a perfect match. In order for the body to accept this foreign transplant that’s of themselves immune suppressant drugs are used to slow the immune system from attacking the transplant. Some patients do ok but some do not the immune system will mount a huge response to the transplant as a infection and attack to protect the body. The condition is called graft vs host outcome is not good. I learned this from personal experience.

This so called vaccine is a synthetic RMA not of nature what we have seen is huge amounts of serious injuries that are live changing fro hesry neurological strokes and death all across the board in all age groups within days or weeks after the jab. This is immoral and evil actions by governments crimes against humanity not a coincidence.

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Dam didn’t proof read ( find a perfect match) ( that’s not)

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Got it anyway. Thanks

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All design event 201

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Yes, those particles do circulate and accumulate in tissue. About two months ago I scheduled a Mammogram for my yearly check up.The screener asked me if I had the vaccine recently. I told them I was not vaccinated. She wanted to be sure because the Mammogram could not be read accurately by the Radiologist because the lipid nanoparticles accumulate in the breast tissue. That was an eye opener.

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Same…I’ve never been asked about vaccines in the prior 3 months until this last mammogram. Interestingly when I donated blood they also asked if I’d received any vaccines in the previous 3 months. I’ve given blood for years and don’t recall them asking me about vaccines.

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Yes, I heard Dr. McCullough say that you shouldn't get a mammogram for a year now because of this very thing. I told my friend because she had a bad mammogram, and is vaxxed. She is not happy and said she won't be getting a booster. I believe the Japan study showed they also amass in the Cervix or Uterus? Dr. McCullough said he suspects the lipid-nanoparticles are amassing in the heart for males and that what is causing the Myocarditis.

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They pass through the blood brain barrier and get in the brain, also. My neighbor got vaccine-induced, auto-immune encephalopathy after he received the vax. Was a successful business owner, very active, and now needs 24-hour supervision in a facility. No hope for a recovery.

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Terrible, I'm so sorry. Watching "gross negligence" medical malpractice on the whole world in real time is pretty mind blowing. Besides Gates/Fauci/Wellensky I most disgusted at our complacent media who are covering all of this up for the Medical Industrial Complex. They're traitors plain and simple (NO one likes traitors). They made people feel these shots were safe. They made it possible for more people to be harmed. They made it possible for these bad shots to be rolled out to our kids. They are just as responsible because had they not covered up the issues, helped block early treatment (horse medicine), and try to make sudden death the "new normal" our country and the world would be in a healthier place right now.

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My neighbor was hospitalized 4 times for weeks at a time. The doctors said they didn't know the cause, but the nurses told the family that they knew the vaccine was the cause.

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Oh my gosh—that is beyond horrible. I am so sorry.

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The Japan study showed they amassed in the ovaries. I worry for our future children. Women are born with all of their eggs. What happens when they are corrupted by spike proteins?

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That's the fear, and again WHY once we have proof that the MRNA/lipid nanoparticles did not stay in the arm muscle and flushed immediately out of the body like they PROMISED, are these shots still being pushed? That should of been GAME OVER, and what I think we should HAMMER them on.

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There is no liability. They don't care. The alphabet agencies don't care either because most people don't keep up with anything. There is no accountability. People are fully trusting, like infants!

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Why doesn't someone (like Dr. McCullough or Dr. Malone) contact the authorities performing Bob Saget's autopsy suggesting they look for lipid-nanoparticles?

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Do you know why only for a year? Do the particles go away over time?

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He didn't say. He has an account on Twitter now, I'll see if he responds.

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I believe it is the ovaries (not, or at least not as much) in the cervix/uterus.

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Same question was asked to me last month, when I made an appointment for my annual mammogram.

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WOW Jacqueline thank you very much for the information. I will reply to my friends and family., We are on this like a tick on the hound. I hope every one has their own (trite word I know) support group for moral and research support.

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And meanwhile we keep losing more and more athletes as a result. And maybe Bob Saget as well.

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Media willfully ignoring young, extremely healthy athletes who are dying or having heart attacks.

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No no no. It is common for athletes to drop dead on the playing field 🤣🤣🤣

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Right! Remember Lou Gehrig?

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“Today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the Earth.” -Lou Gehrig on receiving his booster shot

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ROTFL

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I heard Abe Lincoln said something similar...

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This site is tracking these Athlete issues. Here’s the latest update as of today.

423 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 253 Dead, After COVID Shot

12 more added in less than a week (10 deaths).

https://t.co/iyIZypkd7l

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Thankyou! Been wondering if anyone was tracking

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And, young boys too. I can't help but wonder if some of the jabs are aimed at removing a portion of the healthy male population. But, why? Is it because having a predominantly female population is easier to control?

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Much easier. When we have hardly any young men, we will not be able to have a military.

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Precisely, Antoinette!

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Killing off two or three generations of fighting aged men…

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Yep. :(

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if the horror stories about still births and severely affected new borns are true (are they true?), then women of a reproductive age are targeted as well.

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The miscarriage part is true. A friend of a friend lost a baby right after getting the vax. She was a couple months along. Baby was healthy before the vax in scans.

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Yeah, that part sounds parallel with quotes from Margaret Sanger's ominous 'wisdom': "..the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extinction, of defective stocks--those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization.'

Which begs another question: Is this MRNA 'gene' therapy being targeted at certain racial groups?

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We as a Society have never given experimental drugs or vaccines to pregnant women. But they are doing it now. That is so unethical and immoral.

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or old people or cancer patients...they are giving it to people who WERE NOT IN THE TRIAL WE HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. IT IS UNETHICAL. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU

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very true :-((

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Not if the state has been killing off our boys! Mama bears are fierce!! Better stop poking us now—starting with your jab!

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Hard for governments to suppress the motherly instinct to protect their young... but, the pro abortion crowd...well, that's another story.

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Watch the ending of Dr. Strangelove and look at Epstein's plans for his Arizona ranch.

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Just guessing [without checking] that my reaction will be 'ewwwwwwww'.

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Eww. Eww. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. *blech. *vom *hork

Gotta shake it off! *full body shudder*

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Control women? What planet are you on? I want to move there! :-)

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LMAO! That's one control group this here woman won't be in, sonny! I'm a rebel! Which is also why I refuse to get the jab. ;p

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I've never met a woman that doesn't do whatever they want which was why I was asking :-) I finally found one that wanted to make me happy so I married her, but control her? Not happening.

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Good man! My husband gave up a looooooooong time ago! =0))

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I saw a PGA player was hospitalized in November for heart inflammation. Of course my first thoughts went to vaccines. The CNN article didn’t mention anything about his vaccine status. Apparently it’s common for a healthy 50ish yo to have an inflamed heart.

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NurseLaura, do you recall who that was? I’m a huge golf geek and I missed this completely.

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Steve Stricker

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CNN certainly wouldn’t mention vax status. But the Fox article I read didn’t either. Stricker thinks it may be the stress of his Ryder Cup captaincy. 🙄

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My wife just said the same thing to me. What is wrong with these people!!

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This explains the horrific damage. This Dr/ Researcher was suicided shortly after he posted this:

DR. ANDREAS NOACK - RECENTLY DECEASED EXPLAINS THE GRAPHENE COMPONENT IN THE VACCINE

https://www.bitchute.com/video/bbBiAemI697m/

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Worked with graphene as an artist for many years....very aware of its toxic properties

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They have already injected hundreds of millions of Americans. If the truth comes out now, every aspect of our government will be hated, the uproar will be catastrophic for those who rule us.

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"I am in blood / Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er". They are in too deep to go back.

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what about the food hoarding? I've heard there have been some testing for genetically modified food. Maybe they're trying to avoid that? Or western governments are going to start withholding food from people who don't get vaccinated?

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It's clear the spike protein is a toxin. Why would you train your body to create a toxin that will result in destruction of its own otherwise healthy cells? mRNA tech to create a toxic protein is inherently dangerous. That can NEVER be corrected or controlled.

The Chinese controlled the pandemic using early treatment. Period. End of story.

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They have far more knowing than we know on how all of this has been played on America. They knew well before 2020 as did others "we know" in the states in high level positions. You KNOW who they are

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As I've said many times, they are merely following Napoleon's advice to his marshals at Austerlitz with respect to opposition forces who had declared themselves to be the enemy of the French, "The enemy is making a mistake. Why should we interrupt him?"

The Western Empire has for years declared itself to be China's enemy. Why do we expect them to try to correct the Empire's self-destruction?

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Not quite sure I follow. My insinuation was China (CCP specifically) had far more knowledge than most people realize with the whu-flu agenda

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I don't think they hold any patents, except maybe Shi Zhengli.

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Do you feel the CCP has any sway over the puppet administration, have colluded with Fauci and his minions and the likes of Bill Gates the largest individual backer of the WHO?

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Do you feel the wu-flu came out of that wuhan lab?

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What do you mean ignored by both sides? This article is saying that China is NOT ignoring it and is staying clear of the vaccines.

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Did anyone expect the mRNA shots to stay in the deltoid? I think you learn in med school stuff injected there can get into lymph nodes and all over.

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Yeah isn't the point a shot to make sure it gets distributed all over?

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mRNA vaccine is no longer detectable in the brain after about 25 hours. The Japanese study noted that only 0.009% of the mRNA vaccine could be detected in the rat’s brain at 48-hour, which is still 0% when rounded off. Plus, the abovementioned luciferase-based animal studies find that the mRNA vaccine-induced production of proteins lasts for a few days only.

The mRNA vaccine is fragile (degrades easily) that needs to be stored in extreme cold: Moderna’s and Pfizer’s mRNA vaccines must be kept at −15 to −25 °C and −60 to −90 °C, respectively. The human body temperature is 37°C, so the mRNA vaccine can’t survive for long therein. Moreover, the mRNA dose has a limit, so the cells would stop translating the mRNA into proteins once the mRNA supply runs out.

So, overall, we see that the Covid-19 mRNA vaccines can get into the brain but in very tiny amounts that should be harmless and cleared within days.

The more you know......

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Not according to Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the technology. Listen to his discussion on Joe Roman’s podcast. The more you know…..

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Incomplete knowledge is dangerous. First please stop calling it as mRNA. It is chemically modified mRNA, where the base U has been replaced by a synthetic analogue to escape nucleases which will otherwise destroy foreign mRNA. Your point about limited mRNA supply being consumed only holds for natural mRNA, do a deep dive in literature and you will find that it is it not so certain about lifetime of synthetically modified mRNA where a great heterogeneity in translation time has been observed in prior animal work. Now let’s talk about bio distribution: Luciferin bio distribution studies are qualitatively alright but misleading due to properties of light transport in tissue, the green-yellow light emitted by luciferin- luciferase interaction strongly attenuates at a depth of a few mm and doesn’t accurately reflect uptake in deeper internal organs. Even with that there is published data about synthetic mRNA translating protein up to 29 days in animals. This was verified in clinical data with vaccinated patients where exosomes containing spike protein were circulating 4-6 weeks after the shot. Other work has shown spike protein on its own is pathogenic, why would you want arbitrary cells in your body to make a known pathogenic protein for unknown amounts of time. I fully respect your right to experiment on yourself but please stop mandating and let people make their own health decisions

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Or maybe they have other plans? Denninger, Karl (February 13, 2021). "The West's Obituary." The Market Ticker. https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241577

Right now the Chinese are furiously working in their biolabs, as are a whole host of other nefarious nations, such as North Korea and likely Iran....The nightmare scenario that has always driven bioweapons research is the push to discover some genetically distinct means of targeting a bioweapon such that it only kills your adversary and leaves everyone else alone. It's even worse for your adversary if your side gets and transmits it but doesn't get sick. This has never been found despite diligent effort in the past; all attempts to find such a distinct vulnerability have failed, showing reactivity across the board and thus strongly suggesting that if that "thing" was completed and got out it would kill indiscriminately.

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Agreed

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thank you for posting this. although quite a technical read for most, it provides an interesting context for the presence of the often ill-understood diseases in tropical areas. having lived in the tropics, where malaria, hemorrhagic fever/dengue, Chikungunya and a myriad of water-borne diseases during the monsoon season are part of every-day life, one can only wonder at the effects of the mRNA vaxx!

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this is really helpful and very clearly formulated, TQ.

it came to my mind though that if a one-size-fits-all would be appropriate, we wouldn't need so many shoe stores. or a zillion types of shampoo. or different kinds of cars ;-)

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The “Xi, I wonder why” line is goooood

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hahahahah I like you!

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Sum Ting Wong.

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I'm AGHAST!

APPALLED at your 'cultural appropriation.

You need to be canceled! De-platformed! Dox'd!

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Velly, velly!

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You are forgetting the Wuhan lab, is not Chinese owned

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This is just like at the beginning when they showed the guy passing out on the street, then the guys with the foggers "sanitizing" their streets. They're just pretending to want this mRNA so that we keep using it. Sit back and let us destroy ourselves.

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Yes. Definitely this.

Also in the same vein, their recent announcement about putting a city into lockdown over three cases came just as US officials were ruling them out again. I think their hope was to convince lockdown-pushing government officials/members of the public to cry out, "See! That's what a place REALLY taking it seriously does!"

Why get into a shooting war with your enemy when you can so easily make their entire society die by suicide?

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Xiden is probably deliberately colluding with the CCP ("the Chinese aren't bad folks, folks" -Biden) for money or greater power. Time will tell regarding Biden's 'motives'. Biden uses a mask of incompetence to hide his true face of malevolence.

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One can be both incompetent and malevolent.

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Yep. God help us when they decide we're not doing enough of this and they have to up the ante.

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China was/is?? funded buy western bankers. So my theory is along the lines of NWO, wanting a Communist world. So, why kill off those who are already committed to communism

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I’m starting to think Jonestown suicides were a black ops project to see whether people suffering from mass psychosis would succumb in prep for what’s happening now.

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Jones was a darling of the San Francisco Democratic elite. Until they had to distance themselves from him.

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You make some good points.

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Your best headline yet! What a great take-down of FT's Folly. BTW, Dr. Malone says he got reports from his CIA friends that show the Chinese crushed the curve using HCQ. So, not only did the U.S. government know that HCQ works, they knew the Chinese employed that drug to defeat the "pandemic." Since the MSM no longer employs reporters, but recruits Repeaters and employs bots, crickets on covering anything.

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It's also why Biden (or should his name be spelled Xiden?) talked to Modi in India, and apparently persuaded him to not reveal the ingredients used to stop their epidemic in it's tracks. Ivermectin was supposedly the 'secret' ingredient.

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Yes, I think Dr. Malone mentioned that in his Rogan interview. He also makes it pretty clear that the hospitals were killing people, I would call that murder. A doctor I know who is on staff at two hospitals told me he was instructed not to give COVID patients fluids bc, the rationale being these fluids would go into their lungs. This MD did that and watched their BUN numbers spike. He also has patients at nursing homes, where he gave fluids and, surprise,surprise, the patients recovered. I am simply relaying what this Doc told me.

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Hell, Fauci's own NIAID had called chloroquine a "miracle drug" for the original Sars. That's why they had to Surgisphere it.

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we've been making it at home and distributing it to friends and family. it's purely natural, a wonderful profilaxis and fun to make

https://covid-unmasked.net/home-recipe-for-hydroxychloroquine-hcq-quinine/

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China has been treating with Ivermectin at pennies a dose. Covid is non-existent there. Talked to a friend that lives in X’ian. They had a few hundred cases of omicron and locked the city down.

The media is lying to you. If you can believe that (wink)

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Yes Ivermectin.

I know I'm 40 years younger than you soy boy, yet some would say I am old. I am 63 with what they would say 2 + comorbidities. Woke up with sore throat, stuffy nose Friday morning, Took home test - positive-. Took Ivermectin. A couple hours later sore throat was gone. Saturday head cold, Started taking Mucinex along with Ivermectin and Sunday feeling 99% better..Monday clearing out my head lots of tissues but feeling good. Thank God I am unjabbed.

(An Occasional bong swat has helped with sleeping)

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My mom is another iver success story. She also took hydroxychloroquine for Omicron. She's kicked it in 3 days. This is a pandemic of the untreated.

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one could make one's own hydroxychloroquine - easy, powerful and purely natural

https://covid-unmasked.net/home-recipe-for-hydroxychloroquine-hcq-quinine/

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I'm having a whole lot of trouble believing anything about China. "Talked to a friend?" OK, who else was listening on the phone call?

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Rosie, turn off CNN and get some fresh air. There is another world outside of the US.

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Sorry to disappoint you. I never watch CNN, and I've traveled extensively.

Believe what you want, and so will I.

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Going to the piggy wiggly is hardly extensive travel

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Do *you* trust information coming out of China? Especially information painting China in a *good* light?

If so, why?

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Why would anyone choose MRNA over the miracle drug Ivermectin

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Not sure I implied anyone *would*.

I myself worked long and hard and had to circumvent my own doc in order to get my IVM. I remain and will remain unjabbed.

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I bet you dollars to bagel's Alex has Ivermectin

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Take it easy on soy boy We all know hes 103 years old.

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Do you trust the US government?

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Now, I’ve answered your question. Please answer mine.

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Yes. Because I know people in China. There is no covid there. They actually treat there citizens. Unlike this cesspool.

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There are recent rising cases (a hundred around nationwide) in Xi’an and Zhengzhou, Tian’jin etc. they are shutting down the districts or the whole city if the cases are too much. The ultimate goal is to achieve “dynamic zero” case and it has been successfully the past two years.

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Are you saying shutting down stops the spread? I feel like it is impossible to completely shut down? Hospitals? Prisons? Factories? I was never a believer that we could ever stop the spread 100%.

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Real question- If they’re treating with ivermectin why did they lock down X’ian?

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Me too - why lockdowns?

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Anyone who believes the authoritarian Chinese communist party has anything positive for the rest of the world is naïve. LGB

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How do we really know about Covid statistics in China? It's not like they are going to tell the truth.

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Are they not telling the truth or is it the western world not telling the truth?

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Great question. Answer - neither are telling the truth.

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the two of them are performing a fixed choregraphy, almost like the pattern of black-and-white tiles on a floor.

https://www.deviantart.com/bradysarlo/art/Spy-vs-Spy-71618441

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Yin and yang.

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Xi and Xi-den.

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What happens when an unstoppable liar meets an immovable liar?

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Great point. Beat me to it.

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It is about dynamic zero, so it does not matter whether there are indeed 45 cases or 120 cases a day, but the fact that China is basically deprived of Covid for the past two years. People enjoy a relatively ‘normal’ life except during the shutdown if there are new cases in their districts or the whole city. Check friends in Shanghai or Beijing, first hand experience tells the truth.

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I don't think it really matters. If they were suppressing higher Covid numbers they would probably be even more likely to approve and distribute a vaccine that is safe and effective.

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What's funny is that they didn't simply steal Pfizers recipe. If it were any good the chinese would have produced their own knockoff and the shots in arms would have commenced enthusiastically.

That's what's damning about the pfizer/modenra product.

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Good point.

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It's the same reason that flies and maggots don't eat margarine - it's not real food.

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Apparently it's not so easy to master production without knowing a bunch of stuff. I suspect BioNTech is quite protective of the know how. That may be the big stumbling block. The Chinese are adept at pledging not to peel behind the curtain that BioNTech probably wanted to maintain likely with their own people in that part of the plant.

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I have spent almost a year over the past 10 in China, training operators and engineers how to operate Westinghouse's AP1000 reactor, which they had purchased. The deal was only made if the contract allowed sale of the technology. Once the technology was transferred and the first two plants built, the Chinese modified the design so it could be their own technology and proceeded to build that new design. One thing I clearly noticed during my time in China was that they want to do everything their way. My sense is that their reasons are: 1) we can do it better, 2) we refuse to pay Westerners any more than necessary. The approach you have described doesn't surprise me at all.

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What’s annoying is the Chinese make up the lion’s share of postdocs in this country. Our universities take them on post haste because they’re willing to work those 80-90 hours in a lab, live on the meager salary their grant pays through the university, spend 3-5 years being trained here in science and technology, then take that knowledge home to the Motherland to compete with us.

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I was thinking the same. They think they can develop mRNA on their own. They had already exported some of the local, why not compete with Pfizer too?

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Thanks for that. Despite rolling their own in order to sell, so far no sales. Innovation gets pretty tough with a gun to your head. I suspect BioNTech wanted a curtain over certain parts that the Chinese can't allow.

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You might be correct. This could be as simple as the CCP not agreeing to Pfizer's egregious, extortionist, liability demands that were placed on smaller countries. I saw some of the leaked contract language - APPALLING.

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I'm not sure BioNTech manufacturing processes are fully shared with their partner Pfizer. Their business relationship is unclear. BioNTech even tried to cut the NIH out of ensuing patents. While I might agree that payments from government research have utility, the instant conflicts of interest they create seems another issue somebody needs to explore.

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Yes indeed true in many fields. But the vaccines could be another story. All these news could be just a blindfold. I have the same feeling as Alex, that china simply doesn’t want mRNA, they are just playing with it and postpone it as long as possible.

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You and Alex may be correct. With the CCP, it is impossible to tell. One thing I learned for sure during my time there was that I could never believe a single word out of the CCP. I also learned that their top priority is to stay in power. Health and safety of the citizenry would be a secondary concern that would only matter should the CCP's failure to maintain health and safety lead to their overthrow.

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I believe …”after reviewing the clinical trials” is key here… you know… the ones we can’t see 🤫… they decided the drug doesn’t work and they don’t need a lot of people with real medical issues caused by it… they are in a projected population decline already (encouraging people to have more children now) … they are in economic dire straits.. they’ve got problems. This flu has been nothing but a distraction for people everywhere so they won’t look at the failing worldwide leadership and their agenda to take over the world (an ambitious agenda for sure) China is for itself. Period. I think if we take one thing away from this- it’s that they know this drug is dangerous to the future health of anyone who keeps pumping it into their system. They are more than happy to let the free world kill off its people and destroy their economy and freedom while they figure out how to fix their own problems. They’re just fanning the flames for their enemies. As usual. But hey.. what do I know 😂😂🤷🏼‍♀️

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Isn’t that Chinese government is taking serious responsibility of their own people’s health, as priority of other purposes? Anyway the decision to take mRNA is made by the Western government🧐

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Perhaps The Chinese are just doing what they do best i.e ink an enormous distribution/production deal with you, get their hands on your tech/IP and then make their own. End.

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Lol…. Do we still have a spy agency? How do we not know what the Chinese are up too? Maybe we should send the great Hunter to China to ask !

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Sure we do. They are busy spying on US citizens. (Corrected. Auto correct is not my friend.)

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Yes, spying on American citizens with the help of nice little neighborhood banks like Bank Of America.

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China doesn't need the pretext of a vaccine to subdue its population and create a social credit system. They've already accomplished that. But they will happily collaborate with and fund the effort to bring this about in the West.

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China and Russia actually need their populations to fuel their economic power. Sure, they want to control the people, but they don't want to injure or kill them w/a new, dangerous product.

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That makes sense why China [and Russia] wouldn't want to play along with the Covidiocracy.

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I'm not so sure that China would object to killing off 10-20% of the weakest of their senior population. Sure, they need the young able bodied workers, but what would make anyone think they would have any issue with a little "culling of the herd" every now and then? The age stratification profile of the risk of death from the virus is probably the #1 indication that it is a bioweapon created in a lab.

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Three things: 1) China has a long history of looting the intellectual property of its rivals rather than paying for it outright. This also feeds their cultural need for prestige. China is always playing the long game - think 100 years rather than 100 months. Why pay a percentage to Pfizer when they can just lift it and rebrand it as their own?

2) China hasn't been using mRNA tech for their vaccines because they likely know (and have known for some time) that those jabs simply don't work. They've deployed the classic vaccine tech because it's tried and true. The folks in Wuhan were smart enough to have Dr. F float the bill for their research and they're plenty smart enough to know that the "science" on these vaccines is sketchy at best.

3) I have it on authority from someone living in Shanghai that the State has since the beginning of this "pandemic" employed extremely strict contact tracing methods to isolate the source and vectors, and then quarantine anyone who even might have come in contact with the virus. Just one benefit of operating a fully vertically integrated totalitarian system, complete with facial ID and social credit score tracking nationwide. They literally can trace where a person has been down to the bathroom stall they used at a restaurant. And the local authorities understand that to make a mistake likely means they'll literally disappear.

Someone I know there says when people disappear off the block the neighbors remark how they shouldn't have done or said whatever they did or said. Cold. Brutal. Dispassionate. It's just their way. What's terrifying is how many western leaders are trying to emulate them. Over there, compliance isn't a choice, it's a way of life woven into the social compact.

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Regarding number 3, my time in China told me that most Chinese do not mind this state of affairs. I recall a friend telling me that they were glad no one in China was allowed to have guns because that made them feel safe. Not once in my entire time there did I hear a single Chinese citizen say anything negative about the CCP. Contrast that with the Trump term here. I concluded the Chinese have no understanding of our first and second amendments. Actually, they have no understanding at all of our entire Bill of Rights, and yet they come here for an education that largely arose due to the existence of the Bill of Rights. There is a reason millions of people have tried to cross the border into the US for decades. Virtually no outsider chooses to go live in China, other than on work assignment such as I was. Go look at data on global migrations and see for yourself.

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The Chinese are all very happy with their government. Anyone who might be unhappy is helped to learn how happy they shall be. If they are still unhappy they are relocated to a better place. They all know where that better place is and most don't want to go there because their families lose touch.

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Yup. That was my conclusion after spending so much time there. Even if the Chinese wanted America's First Amendment rights, they would never dare say so. Ergo, they have no such rights.

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As a Chinese, I totally agree with 1,2 and 3. China succeeds, the price is high, but everyone is heading in a good direction.

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Are you permitted to criticize the government should it ever occur to you to do so?

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While I have little doubt they are exercising the kind of social surveillance you have described, quarantines don't stop airborne viral infections. Immune systems do, whether primed by a drug or left to their own devices. The virus has more patience than humans and will find an animal to replicate within while it waits for new prey. The Chinese government's tendency towards dispassionate policy likely led them to realize early on that the survival rate even for the most vulnerable - in excess of 95% - made any experimentation with untested and potentially dangerous drugs unnecessary. And as the drugs proved themselves unsafe and ineffective throughout the world, their choice against mRNA drugs became cemented.

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#1 was my first thought, as well. I also agree with 2 and 3.

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China poisoned the world, with a very mild virus, probably as a test case. It worked beyond their wildest dreams. The west shut itself down and did permanent damage to their economies. Now the west is killing young healthy people who have a 99.7% chance of surviving. China probably never expected their test case to work this well and must be amazed at their own success.

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It might have been released from China but the US created it!

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Exactly. Most likely it was made primarily in North Carolina with additional gain of function from Wuhan.

Washington DC scares me more than China. China never threatened to arrest me for visiting my elderly parents. China is not threatening to throw the unvaxxed in Washington state into concentration camps to force jab them. China never made me choose between my job and my health.

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They use hard lockdowns on entire cities with social credit scores. Vax or not, you don’t want to be there. In a few weeks yet another Olympics will be hosted by a country committing genocide.

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And IF our athletes go to Beijing, odds are, they’ll bring “presents” back with them. Kinda like the military games back in ..… wait a minute….. late 2019.

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You're referring to the Uighers, right? The United States is committing genocide against its entire population - at least those gullible and / or brainwashed enough to believe the covid narrative / propaganda.

As for living in an authoritarian regime, I don't want to live here the US, either! This country is well on its way to being at least as authoritarian and totalitarian as China already is.

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Perhaps they noticed that the FDA trials for Pfizer were RIGGED, using a placebo OTHER THAN Saline... And yet STILL, the mRNA Jabs killed a significantly higher number than the "placebo". Perhaps they noticed when Fauci corrupted the study by ending it at 6 months, and jabbing the control group, to prevent useful long-term data from being compiled.

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what was used in the placebo arms for the pfizer trial? do you have a link to anything on that?

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Not sure which for mRNA vaccines but they typically use an existing vaccine such as the pneumococcal vax as the control. Saline is rarely used. The reason is that all vaccines have varying degrees of untoward effects so the comparison will be whatever is statistically “greater than control”. If the control is water then the test material will look much less safe. This is a known, accepted way of manipulating the safety data in the manufacturer’s favor. I used to be in the business.

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Same for trials with the vaccine Gardasil—the control was using aluminum as the adjuvant. Last time I checked, aluminum is a toxic heavy metal, for which there is no safe amount to ingest. Controls are supposed to be placebos; not toxic metals which have their own adverse effects...Kids are being killed and harmed by Gardasil...every teenager is supposed to get this garbage injected into their bodies. Not my kids’ bodies...!

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I can’t understand how Gardasil is still on the market. It’s caused so much injury and death worldwide. The Gardasil scandal is one of the reasons I no longer fear being labeled an anti vaxxer. If people knew the full story behind some of these vaccines I think the whole industry would collapse.

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Not a readily accessible web link - I saw an RFK Jr. interview with the information... Not that I remember exactly which interview it was, or where... It might be a Del Bigtree Highwire interview. I think that was it... But it might have been a segment from the new documentary - "Covid Revealed", too.

What I've heard elsewhere (probably on TLAV) was that it was another problematic (traditional) vaccine, like the meningitis one... RFK Jr. talks about the vaccine "placebo pyramid scheme" in his book, and I've seen a slide/graphic that he compiled, using data provided by the FDA, probably on the Highwire interview.

So according to him all of the FDA's vaccine studies are designed to show only whether any given vaccine provides a decrease in infections or disease severity, but not a usable indication of safety compared to an ACTUAL Placebo. So they innoculate the control group against something else, and then study infection numbers. The "safety" numbers are fudged by design, to compare only against other vaccines, and not saline, which shouldn't kill or injure anyone. If they did real studies with saline - the death and injury risk would be obvious. So they compare the dangers of one product, only to another dangerous product.

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Thank you. I need to look into this more. I have the RFK book and look forward to working the rest of the way through it.

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How do you spell ADE in Mandarin??

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Xi, I wonder why....hahaha 🤣 good one!

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The ChiComs will steal any IP that isn't nailed down. But LOL we can't give this sh*t away.

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i agree. they bought the tech and know-how to produce it with promises of future purchases. they have all the ip to make it themselves and if china behaves as they normally do, they will be producing it and selling it to the rest of the world(but not using it themselves).

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It's a fucking twilight zone episode where we have athletes dying on the field yet journalists don't ask their vaccination record but they have no problem asking kyrie Irving and Aaron Rodgers their vaccination status. We are so fucked as a society people

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So, this is how the story in KrazyKonspiracyLand [TM] goes:

Our Friends the Globalists have decided that China will be the leader of the world now, since they can get lots of cheap labor from the uneducated, controlled populaces in that region. They also realized that there were way too many defiant Christian white men in the world, and that was a problem. So they needed depopulation.

The story goes that Our Friends approached China with the proposition of being the head of the New World Order and China went along... for a while. When China learned about the other part of the story [pedophilia, Satanism] they dropped out of the program. Our Friends the Globalists might believe that China is still on their side, but the thinking is that China is in this all for China. Which is why they said no to the mRNA shots and have stockpiled lots and lots of grain for their people.

Take all of the above with a grain of salt. It is the theory in KrazyKonspiracyLand.

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China has never been in it for anyone BUT China. They believe they should be the hegemon (the world super-power). Read "Bully of Asia" by Steven W. Mosher (or any of his other books on China). And, yes - they're playing the long game - looking 100+ years out...

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Given the quality of products China ships to the U.S., I'd recommend anyone who takes its vaccine also sign up for the extended warranty.

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And, why are we not skeptical that China is COVID-free?

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They probably have the real antidote and they just put it in the water.

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It's a bit hard to hide a genuine "surge."

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Maybe they actually care enough about their people (war fodder, anyway) to conduct long-term clinical trials 😆

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I think that China let the virus loose to get rid of their older population they deemed a burden.

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Yes! I was about to say this. It’s been written before they have their own version of the baby boomers. CCP have had to annul the edict that just one child per couple and have increased the allowable to 2.

They realized their we not enough younger people in this and the next generation to support the elders.

Covid solved this dilemmas.

This eliminates the eldest people they figure to be free loaders. And makes a very large and heathy standing army that has not been forced to be inoculated.

Their troops are treated to the healthiest food and body trainging to build a superior force unmatched.

What did we do? We require our troops to be vaxxd. The resistors are discharged, The remainder are turned into neutered zombies - effeminate docile and unfit. Brainwashed to fire upon our citizens,

And of and of course give the Chinese a big fat present of our rocket and field technology courtesy of Biden in Afghanistan.

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Please excuse my typos. My eyesight is impaired plus I’m fat fingering with my phone and Apple 🍎 bless its heart changes my wording.

It sure would be great we could edit our own. Not have to delete and repost 🧐

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Evil thrives as those who should act and have zero tolerance for hate and lust for power just cower and kneel endlessly…

America is dead folks, most of you haven’t been personally and pervasively hit in the face with the pain and grief…

YET…

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I agree, sad but true. Look at NYC change in election laws, Soros DAs not prosecuting, well, anything, Supreme Court spouting idiocy (I have to say that shocked me), men are women, mental illness is rampant especially in Covidians, drug abuse pushed by Pharm, massive deaths and illness from vax for YEARS to come, huge economic decline, Dems in the swamp gleeful over decline, furthering the Socialist agenda. Oh, I could go on but you all get it. America is dead. And what comes next won’t be pretty.

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Pain and grief ahead, but never give up.

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so I’m very confused about what’s going on in China. We see the graphs that Covid deaths suddenly went to zero in spring 2020 which we of course believe are lies. But we also know that Cove it is endemic and you can’t get rid of it. You claim that Covid is over in China. But then we hear stories about cities that are locking down and forcing people to stay in their apartments and only leave once a week for groceries. So does anybody have a sense of where reality is hearing all of this?

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Alex, your premise is China cares more about the safety of its people than the US government does for its people. And I believe you! We truly have entered a bizzaro-world.

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the current US regime hates everyone and is doing everything in their power to ruin our personal peace and prosperity. While they pilfer and steal everything they can behind the scenes, stock tips and trades and manipulation. WE NEED TO END ALL GOVT BURAUCRACY STARTING NOW! All we need is simple govt processes like a city...water dept, zoning etc... TIMES ARE OVER FOR BIG FAT SCHOOL DISTRICT WASTE OF BILLIONS AND NEW FOOTBALL STADIUMS, NICER BUILDINGS THAN PRIVATE COMMERCIAL OFFICES. It is insane and crazy clown world. Schools continue to do 'BOND ELECTIONS' because they cannot manage the HUGE money given them already! It's the same with big govt...it's built for waste and theft and gaming the system.

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Why do you need to "care" or "care more" about your people, when the simpler answer is why waist time and resources on something that doesn't work at best and may even make the situation worse?

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The CCP cares about the health of the Han. A nation can not survive with a debilitated people

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With the Olympics being held there they are locking down any outbreak to keep that on track, even the mild more like a cold version. What is chilling is the documentation that they have been working on covid type viruses that are targeted at specific nationalities that would not affect their population if they can figure out the genetics. They have been collecting DNA from the world with pregnancy and probably other tests they supply or created for some time.

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my Gosh! what do you think is being done with all of the covid testing?? and ppl getting blood tests to check antibodies?? I wouldn't put it past our govt or our own industries selling our DNA info for billions to china!! for them to turn it on us with some nefarious means. I'm trying to not let my healthy cynicism toward the 'world' block my childlike faith and trust in Father God.

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So either the need has passed, they stole the mRNA technology and are creating their own, they ran out of money or have seen the vax carnage.

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Our mainstream media liars reported China devastated by Covid. This is a blatant lie. The mainstream media reported India devastated by Covid. This is also a blatant lie. The mainstream media even used films of the normal India funeral pyres as proof of mass deaths in India when in fact India stopped Covid in its tracks with Ivermectin. I also was extremely curious why our mainstream media liars did not report India’s High Court indictment of Bill Gates of crimes against humanity due to his involvement with toxic vaccines. Maybe I’m suffering from mental impairment for feeling that there must be a correlation between young healthy athletes, pilots and children suddenly dropping dead within hours or days from getting a mRNA vaccine or Booster. I really do not understand why people are willing to help these murderous psychopaths get away with these crimes by there tacit acceptance or silence regarding obvious correlation between there loved ones death or injury from these absolutely horrific mRNA injections.

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Well, seeing as they are looking at a population collapse soon and the dirtbags in our government will just replace us with all the people coming across the border that are exempt from the jab, it makes sense

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On a side note: No one has said how clever Alex was using Xi in his title. I noticed, dude. I noticed. And giggled.

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I noticed and clicked on the heart. I had a good laugh.

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Meanwhile, speculative reporting that Xi'an, China is under hard lockdown due to a new hemorrhagic fever virus. Maybe they emptied out the rest of the lab.

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hemorrhagic fever: dengue, tropical disease. not nice (been there). "a new hemorrhagic fever virus"? maybe yet another test gone wrong? after all, dengue fever virus (DENV) is an RNA virus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengue_fever

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Where did you see or hear this?

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Sun Zi say: Let the 老外 enemies all self destruct through hysterical lockdowns and toxic, leaky ‘vaccines.’ The virus, propaganda and funding will all be made in China. Xi be like: ‘that was too easy! 干杯!’

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Who would've thought I'd ever trust China over own country for medical issues like this. Someone, wake me up...

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Correction - why would we trust our own country either?? Honestly...

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Yes, I sure have realized that was a trust I never should've had. Lots of lessons learned in the last two years.

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Also India, which specifically cited Pfizer's demand for indemnity as the reason.

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mRNA is for our young fighting men, not for the PRC.

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This is one of my biggest reasons for holding out on the jab. It’s sketchy AF to say the least. The Chinese created the virus, or certainly gave birth to it somehow, they should know the most about it, and yet they aren’t jabbing their people with mRNA?

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The Chinese had help from Fauci, Baric, et al…

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"Easier to fool a man than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

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I think it's clear by now, the Chinese are much smarter and serious about fortifing their country than we are, of course they are not taking the poison shots!

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The Chinese do not want to keep the fear/virus alive. You see they are the communist Chinese and already have complete control of their people. They are the envy of the democrat party, big tech and the MSM. The mRNA vaccines have kept this thing alive and the mandates only purpose is to keep it going. The Chinese have nothing to gain, the democrats want the type of control the Chinese have.

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Once again thank you Alex for your keen reporting and willingness to share.

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Of course they know something "we" don't - they DESIGNED the fucking thing.

What seems everybody has missed is that the POINT of designing such fucking things is to create a vaccine against them FIRST. The fucking (OK, I'll stop now) thing is the TEST CASE for the vaccine, so they likely had it either beforehand or simultaneously. Is "simultaneously" a word? Seems suspicious.

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The United States outsourced the gain-of-function work on the coronavirus to China. We paid them to do this. China is not the evil villain responsible for the covid pandemic!

You need to read this book to understand what is happening:

The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War and Democracy and Public Health, by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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Yup, EVERYBODY should read RFK's book.

Another great one is "Covid-19 and the global predators: We are the prey" by Peter Breggin, MD

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The book's in the to-get-to pile about six down (Alex's is five down). :-)

Anyhoo, I don't recall the word "evil" or "villain" in my comment.

And, yes, we kicked in some of the funding (how much of it went to what remains to be seen), as did others, and in as it's starting to seem, in other places too.

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Okay, sorry, Jim. I was exasperated by so many of the commenters here on this thread acting as if the only malevolent actors in the world are the Chinese.

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No worries at all. :-)

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Love that covid has been 'nonexistent' in China since Feb 2020. Of course it has; I mean, they only invented it, right?? Maybe Xi Jinping is the new Sgt Schultz... "I know nothing!"

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So China’s Citizens have not taken a Covid Vaccine yet? I had no idea. They are still studying them. Other Countries are their Guinea Pigs. This should be highly publicized.

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I think they have something called Sinovac, an inactivated virus vaccine, the traditional kind.

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"...six months after Chinese regulators supposedly reviewed the clinical trial results," That might explain why they backed away.

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I had wondered about that myself. China has a high vaccination rate (Sinovac) with an older tech, attenuated-pathogen version that has a what, 60% efficacy rate, but China, if they are telling the truth, haven't seen the sky-high case rates that the rest of the mRNA/DNA high vax rate world has seen. Funny, the low vax rate countries and China with the Sinovac vaccine seem to be doing better. Why?

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It is not vaccinations that makes a difference, but really classical way of true keeping social distance

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Actually a 150 nm virus particle can stay aloft for WEEKS. That is called aerosolization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosolization

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Shut down the city, citizens have responsibilities, dynamic zero of cases

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I thought the CCP’s traditional Sinopharm vaccines were all that? I wonder if Chinese leaders are licking their chops over western governments’ covid responses and awaiting dreadful jab health impacts on our populations - and further forced implementation of digital tracking “passports”. Almost makes one suspect they were in on the plan? Conspiracy analytics seem to implicate our “favorite” magazine cover gramps Fauci.

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