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I am in my late 30's, I got covid in early September 2021. I had symptoms for 1 day and immediately contacted a telemedicine doctor out of Austin that I found through the FLCCC website. I was referred to that website by another physician that couldn't get me in to see him early enough (I live in Texas). I was prescribed IVM and their I-MASK+ protocol and within 2 days of taking the medications, I was better, no breathing issues, no trips to the ER. My husband tested positive a week later and was treated the same way and had the same results. I believe the key to beating covid is EARLY treatment. Don't be afraid and wait until it's too late. I was able to get treated without even testing positive or going into an actual doctors office! I should also add that I have 2 kids, 11 and 13, they also had covid with almost zero symptoms. It's criminal what the MSM and the government did to supress information and in some places ban the use of Ivermectin. It is horrible and very disheartening to know that doctors and nurses stood by and allowed people to die knowing full and well there were treatments for covid available that actually work. Just thinking of the number of people that could have been saved if they were treated properly instead of being admitted and put on a ventilator to die breaks my heart.

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I finally watched Peter McCullough's Oct. 2 presentation about early treatment for covid, and the fact that most doctors insist that there isn't any. "Malfeasance" is what he called it, and he's exactly right. A must-watch: https://rumble.com/vnbv86-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-and-trusted-treatments-vs-unte.html

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the people responsible for suppressing early treatment--Fauci, and the heads of FDA, CDC, WHO--they are guilty of murder. There is no other way to put it. We've known since March 2020 that IVM works. Bangladesh has been treating covid patients with IVM since March 2020 and they have 1/13 the number of deaths from covid that the US has.

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the u.s. has 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds covid deaths and we used to have healthcare that was the best of the best. the fact that ivm is not just frowned upon but openly mocked is criminal. i don't believe that we actually had 25% of the worlds deaths but when gunshot victims(or car accident victims or any of the other mislabeled deaths) are said to have died of covid, it really looks insidious...

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Ivm is not only frowned upon but DENIED in hospitals. And actually are refusing to fill prescriptions and reporting doctors who prescribe it. Very Orwellian.

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A friend of a friend who asked for IVM while in ICU with Covid, and was getting worse on Remdesivir, (surprise, surprise) was told he would have to get a court order to get IVM! He’s been in the hospital for over a month now and so weak because was only allowed to sit in a chair or be in bed. It’s criminal!

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Many patients are being killed by hospitals' protocols. Look up Dr. Bryan Ardis who explains it in detail.

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Let’s try again. I have read Remdesiver is very hard on the kidneys and organs and can result in severe damage. I am not sure this is true but I am looking into this just to be sure. I understand it is better to demand monoclonal antibodies before admission, they cannot give them to you after admission.

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What was his outcome? Prayers that he’s still alive…

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Yet I hear it’s actually on the treatment list below the other things. However it’s not covered by Medicare

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My UCLA doctor refused to do a Covid B and C cell titer claiming UCLA labs did NOT do that test! A major teaching hospital! And she was already drawing blood from my arm.

But wait! I forgot! Doctors don’t WANT to know if their patients have natural immunity!

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We have SICKCARE for Profit ,Period !!! Curing Disease is a bad business model!! Americans need to walk away from the Western Medical Model and become Self reliant in promoting one's own Health !! Anymore, Most Doctors are just Robots programmed to follow the Profit model of Medicine!!! Hell,even AARP has said the key to longevity is to stay OUT OF THE SYSTEM !!

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I’m on your team!!! I love the “Sickcare for Profit” metaphor! I successfully managed my healthcare without having insurance for years. Paid cash and rarely went to the ‘regular’ doctor! Then when I turned 65 I signed up for Medicare and the ‘supplemental’ insurance they say you have to have…what a crock of crap that system and insurance racket is! I never trusted the healthcare system and having ‘insurance’ now has enabled me to see how f-Ed up the Industrial Medical Healthcare Complex really is.

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You mean AARP that is one of the biggest contributors to the DNC next to teachers unions? THAT AARP??!

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Again, follow the money🤫

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When I found out I canceled my AARP membership immediately!

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Yes, The Truth sometimes leaks out..LOL

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I am first hand experienced with sick care for profit. Been having an odd health condition for 3 years now and I have gone thru about 10 neurologists at Mass General alone. More tests than you could imagine. Still no diagnosis. However a couple of weeks ago I had some blood work done and my pancreas enzymes were high(high enough that a nurse called me snd said I should go to the emergency department. I had no belly pain so she said if I didn’t want to go, I should just be ready to go if I began feeling abdominal pain. My doctor then set me up to get a colonoscopy and an appt with a GI doc. The GI doctor could not explain why I needed a colonoscopy but said maybe to look for diverticulitis. I’m no doctor so I figured, ok. I saw another nurse the next day for a different issue and she thought it sounded strange since a colonoscopy doesn’t look at the pancreas. Went thru the whole ‘cleanse’ routine(what a literal pain in the ass). At my colonoscopy spot, the nurse prepping me looked befuddled when I told her my colonoscopy was for my elevated pancreas enzymes. Then when I was in the scope room, the doc gave me a release to sign. I asked him about the pancreas enzymes. He said a colonoscopy wouldn’t find anything that may be wrong with my pancreas. So I walked. It was all to scoop up some easy money in my opinion. Another blood test the following week showed my pancreas enzymes back to an acceptable range. My doc should have just redrawn blood. The latest blood showed my kidney function was not good. lol. I have read that Covid can mess up organs including the pancreas and kidneys so maybe this is from an asymptotic Covid infection. Insanity…

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Grandpa had diabetes in the depression. The family spent tons of money trying to help him. Finally a doctor came along who cured him. With a simple procedure that was diet and nutrition and hot baths. On specifically time schedule. A lot of times this is for profit

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A little off topic . . . . my doctor just kiddingly informed me of something they call scoping for dollars meaning the patient doesn't need the procedure at all.

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I see it every day, even with proof of studies and data.. sinking sand🤬

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i had heard this stat the other day. i went worldmeters website to do the math myself. though not as skewed, it is still very skewed. world pop=7.9 billion. US pop=340 million(depending on the actual number of illegal aliens you believe live in the US). so the US has ~4.3% of the world population. WW COVID deaths=4,893,091. US deaths=739,948. SO that is about 15% of deaths. something still smells fishy about that. Q:are we that much more unhealthy or elderly or is our healthcare system that much worse than the rest of the world? A:Maybe, No and didn't used to be...

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The American diet compared to that of developing countries is based on heavily processed foods - your typical Costco frozen aisle selection plus lots of sodas, candy, chips, and sweets. Poorer countries tend to feed their people with basic staples of whole foods (i.e. rice, beans, bread, potatoes, etc.). Also, physical activity is basically nil in our society whereas other countries rely heavily on public transit and walking long distances to get to their destination (i.e. school, doctor/hospitals, etc.). However, US hospitals are overestimating C19 deaths and hospitalizations when patients arrived for OTHER REASONS not covid symptoms.

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Agreed. That is why I answered ‘maybe’ for US citizens being less healthy. I know we are not the longest lived citizens. The ‘pay and pray’ healthcare is more likely the real reason. And the misrepresentation of ‘death with Covid’ vs ‘death caused by Covid’.

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So true. And in other countries IVM and HCQ is over the counter.

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Some other countries don’t count Covid deaths as everyone that dies and also tests positive for COVID.

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I couldn't find ANY other country which counts COVID deaths the way we do...

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I think Americans are definitely more obese than in many nations

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there are a few in the running--India and Italy for instance

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I use WorldMeters a lot, but you have to understand they only use numbers as reported by the countries/states involved. We were told early by Dr. Birx that "The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death." The video of her saying this is still on youtube.

“Even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.” — State of Illinois chief medical officer

We also know now that the CDC quietly changed its reporting during the pandemic. Turns out only 6% of those who had died at that time and who also tested positive did NOT have underlying medical issues The other 94% had an average of 2.6 co-morbidities each. (The CDC took it down quickly, but I have a screen grab of both the chart and the text explaining what that 6% column referred to.)

We're counting deaths from murder, suicide, accidents, terminal cancer, heart attacks, etc. where the person also had a Covid-positive test -- and are those positive results legitimate? We have no way to know.

We don't know how many people died OF the coronavirus, as opposed to WITH it. Very big, damaging decisions have been made -- and continue to the made -- based on what may be wildly inflated numbers.

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I agree. Inflating the numbers and not stratifying the data showing that the virus isn’t really much of a danger to anyone except the old and ill has allowed the govt to continue the draconian policies to control the population.

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We don’t have 25% of the world’s deaths. We are the only country I know of which has deliberately counted the deaths of every person who died, who also tested positive for COVID, even posthumously. And we have never been told at how many CT cycles our tests are being run, so ever the number of cases is suspect. In any case, our death count is all those who died WITH Covid, not just OF it.

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Probably should have said the US has 25% of the reported deaths. The reporting here is BS. With vs of is an important distinction that vastly inflated our numbers and also gave the Magnificent Pandemics the cudgel to beat America into COVID submission. I am as skeptical of China’s numbers as I am of ours. They are as concerned with appearances as our own government is instead of being concerned with the well being of their respective citizens.

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In Aug 2020 the CDC changed its reporting of Covid deaths to show that just 6% were solely from Covid, and that the other 94% of those who died had an average of 2.6 co-morbidities -- likely contributors to the deaths. I saved a screen shot of both the revised chart and the explanation, and I'm glad I did because within three days it was REMOVED and hasn't been shown that way since. At the same time, many doctors and other medical professionals have expressed that our real VAERS numbers (adverse events -- injuries and death -- from the vaccines) are actually 10x to 100x what has been reported. It's appalling.

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They never hid the way we were counting deaths. Dr. Birx said it loud and clear: "The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” concluded Birx.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHp1GdOD4k

She also spoke about false positive tests, which further muddy the COVID death numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdN--11btc0&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2yYFcJO7ZmxnmW66Z-2gyLv-qk7_8CGjUa0swAPqmR9x_5Yrg3PAfsH-I 

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And they are admitting the scam…

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I see it all over social media. People are still calling it "horse paste", and criticizing anyone who tells a story of success using it. The media has done its brainwashing job well.

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Did ya’ll catch the clip of Joe Rogan lambasting “Dr.” Sanjay Gupta for not coming down on CNN when they said Rogan had taken “horse paste” for Covid? He admitted they were wrong.

Rogan said, “Bro…I can afford the pharmaceutical human Ivermectin!”

The rest of us can afford it too! Our doctors just refuse to order it!

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Did you see the clip of Sanjay Gupta w/ Don Lemon today? Totally punked out.

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A Nobel Prize for a "horse paste." Did not know equine transportation was so valued.

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The Nobel Prize was for Avermectin (yes, with an A), from which Ivermectin was derived. It was originally a drug approved for humans. You know this but most people don't. Those who keep using the horse paste claim are either uninformed or intentionally misleading. Pretty sad.

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that's 1/13 the number of deaths per million population. So if the US had been treating covid early with IVM and other vitamins/plant extracts/drugs as appropriate, we would have approximately 60,000 covid deaths. Instead, we have 700,000!

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That is a freakin’ profound statement that should make every cowardly physician cower in fear.

That is, every physician who refused to acknowledge “The Science” and their Hippocratic Oath:

First: Do No Harm.

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We don't "have 700,000"... That's the count of every person who died of any cause and who also tested positive for Covid. We will never know how many Americans actually died OF Covid, rather than WITH it.

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Echo that sentiment. They....Fauci, especially and all his gain of function cronies..are criminals of the highest order.

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I totally agree! And I hope that are punished for their crimes in this world or the next…although I’d love to be alive to see it in this world!!

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A WHO scientist is actually being sued right now by the Indian Bar Association for disparaging ivermectin and faces the death penalty or life in prisonment if found guilty.

The Indian Bar Association Sues W.H.O. Scientist Over Ivermectin: https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indian-bar-association-sues-who-scientist-over-ivermectin/article_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html

India Could Sentence W.H.O. Chief Scientist to Death for Misleading Over Ivermectin and Killing Indians: https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2021/06/india-could-sentence-who-chief-scientist-to-death-for-misleading-over-ivermectin-and-killing-indians.html

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that sounds extreme, but these ghouls who have suppressed and even prohibited the use of Ivermectin are guilty of murder. Here's another outrageous Ivermectin story: "According to a news report published October 4, 2021, "Jeffrey Smith tested positive for COVID-19 July 9, was hospitalized, and was admitted to the intensive care unit July 15. He was put on the hospital's COVID-19 protocol of the antiviral drug, Remdesivir, along with plasma and steroids. On July 27, after a period of relative stability, Jeffrey Smith's condition began to decline.

He was sedated and intubated, and placed on a ventilator on August 1.

Smith was in a medically-induced coma on August 20, according to an affidavit his wife filed with her lawsuit. 'My husband is on death's doorstep; he has no other options,' she wrote, adding at another point that her husband's chances of survival had dropped to less than 30%."

In August, Judge Gregory Howard ordered the hospital, West Chester, to honor the family's request to treat him with Ivermectin.

Judge Howard approved Dr. Fred Wagshul's prescription of Ivermectin 30 mg daily for three weeks. Dr. Wagshul is a renowned Pulmonary Specialist who reports having treated over 2,000 patients with Ivermectin with 100% success.

Over thirteen days, Smith faithfully got the Ivermectin, and began to improve, said Dr. Wagshul. It looked like Ralph Lorigo had worked another miracle.

And then the unthinkable occurred. A new judge ordered the Ivermectin stopped against the wishes of his wife, his family, and Dr. Wagshul.

And soon after that, 51-year-old Jeffrey Smith died!

Judge Michael Oster reversed the ruling before Smith could receive the entire three weeks of court-ordered Ivermectin. As a result, he only received 13 doses out of the 21 mandated by the previous order. According to Ralph Lorigo, lead attorney, "they were planning to begin weaning off the ventilator.""

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/for-the-right-to-try/article_ea321d9a-2ae0-11ec-90b8-fb216c598d03.html

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Just curious, possible reason do you have for saying they are guilty of murder? Why do you suppose they say ivermectin is not safe? I’d really like to know

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Early in the pandemic, the only tests done -- and there were few -- used IVM by itself, with mixed results. The documented success in India and other places comes from using IVM in conjunction with zinc, Vit C and D3. The FDA STILL hasn't approved IVM for treatment of COVID, although it IS FDA Approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. The FDA web site says IVM can be dangerous in large doses. Well, duh. Any FDA Approved medication can be! There is no logical explanation for the FDA to have withheld Approval. Doctors could have (and did) prescribe it "off label" -- meaning for other than the FDA Approved uses -- but pharmacists refused or were prevented from filling the prescriptions because of the lack of FDA Approval for use in the treatment of COVID. That's my understanding. If the facts show that there was a deliberate withholding of this drug for this use, someone should be held responsible. Think of all the suffering and deaths that could have been prevented...

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Peter McCullough is nothing short of heroic - smart, compassionate and courageous.

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If we make it through this, I would love to contribute toward something wonderful for him. He came out personally. He didn’t hide. (Although God knows we benefited greatly from those scientists and doctors who came out under aliases as well!). But Dr. McCullough just laid it all out there knowing the risks and knowing we do not know how this ends. There are few people whom I admire like him.

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That's a good point you made. I have been focused on the high number of unnecessary deaths due to the withholding of medications, one of whom was my sister-in-law.

But you're right - Dr McCullough is a hero for daring everything and speaking up.

Perhaps one day the Malone's & Berenson's & so many others who stood alone will be recognized for their contributions to humanity.

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Thank God a voice with his credentials and experience is speaking out.

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A friend of ours just shared her husband's experience of nearly dying at the local hospital. She was fighting with them over the phone to use treatments and they were refusing, at the same time telling her he was most likely going to die. The doctor or nurse she was talking to on the phone literally told her to "calm her shit down." To a woman whose husband is dying!! Thankfully a mutual friend was the attending nurse and advocated for him and he survived but not without major lung damage. The pulmonologist they are seeing now said they need to sue the hospital.

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Yeah you're better off treating yourself at home than ever setting foot in a Hospital. They will kill you.

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I agree! And I am an RN who USED to work in a hospital until my religious exemption was denied! Thanks to someone on this site, I ordered my own IVM through the website recommended to have on hand just in case the evils decide to formulate another “variant” ! I had a bad cold in Feb. 2020 but refused to get tested, did not want to be another (false?) positive number—stayed home and recouped.

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Alex said Ivermectin does not work on the Joe Rogan show! It worked for both myself age 69 and for my fully vaccinated wife, age 71.

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He did not say, "It doesn't work." He said the studies are inconclusive. And they are. I hope it works because I've got a cabinet full of Ivermectin.

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I'm sorry, but by what standard is this "inconclusive"?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8415517/

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Exactly!!! The data are overwhelmingly conclusive.

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hey, thanks for sending a link to the report!

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i was reading this study yesterday but the article i found had a conclusion which sounds very much like a home run for ivermectin...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

Conclusions:

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

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Bereson goes by RCTs. Large ones are expensive to run so generally only big pharma does them. As I hold big science in extreme disregard at this point in time I only trust emperical evidence

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Yes Big Pharma doesn't make massive money off Ivermectin.

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the studies arent inconclusive, that is complete garbage and alex is completely wrong on this topic, as are you. www.ivmmeta.com , this is FAR MORE CONCLUSIVE THAN ANY OTHER DRUG OUT THERE. Anyone saying otherwise is being manipulated by corrupt pharma shills. Over 50% of drugs are recommended based on expert opinion alone, the remaining 49% have either 1 observational trial or 1 rct, less than 1% have more than that. Having 60+ trials, many which are peer reviewed is absolutely conclusive. Dont fall for the myth that large RCTs are greater than a meta analysis, they arent

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This "pandemic" never should have gotten off the ground but there was too much money to be made, too much power to be had over the world's population, and the great reset to be launched.

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Bingo.

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I think your best bet is to use it as part of a triage (like Zelenko and McCullough advocate). The thing that Alex never seems to mention: Ivm, azq, etc are all intended here as part of a triage treatment. It works. But that means doctors can't be certain of which components work better than others. It would be highly unethical to attempt rct's on people that are having severe breathing problems by giving some placebo, some of them one drug, some two drugs, etc. So this is a situation where honest doctors just attack it with various drugs and vitamins, knowing that in combination, it's highly likely to work. I had covid, just took some tylenol, nyquil at night and got over it just fine. Most people don't need *any* of these other things, but there's no harm in taking them.

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Precisely. That’s why the FLCCC have developed several protocols for prophylaxis and early intervention treatment.

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The protocol is to give it within the first couple of days of infection, in the correct dosage, and in conjunction with zinc, Vit C and D3. Any doctor or hospital could have authorized this and prevented millions of people getting so sick as to require intubation and ICU care. But the FDA still has not Approved IVM. Why?

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IVM is more conclusive than the PCR Test they have used to push their panic porn.

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Good point. Why are we never told, or allowed to know, at how many cycles the positive results are found? Again, the doctors who have spoken out about this -- including Dr. Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test -- have been demeaned and silenced. Why? PCR inventor: "It doesn't tell you that you are sick..." "If they can find this virus in you at all - and with PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody.”

https://www.sott.net/article/442440-PCR-inventor-It-doesnt-t

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Alex has a blindspot towards IVM. No drug company is going to pay for RCT's for an over the counter off label use drug like IVM which won't make them any money. It's that simple. Alex will be waiting forever for RCT's for IVM...or until he gets covid.

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There are over 20 RCT's for IVM and over 60 trials of all sorts. Beyond trials, there is real world experience. India has 4 times our population and a fraction of our deaths. They use IVM. Try Indonesia too. Then look at Vietnam. They had a total of 35 covid deaths when they started their mass vaccination program on 3/8/2021. Now their deaths total 20,763. Someone is doing something right and it ain't us.

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I love Alex but he has two blind spots as far as I know: IVM and America's Frontline Doctors.

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And election fraud. He thinks Trump lost and should just say he lost.

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We could start a GoFundMe page to fund a study but the page would be banned!

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Pfizer is developing its own version that it can money from - it may or may not be called “ Prizermectin” 😏

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IVM is not OTC.

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It is in other countries.

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No, but if you get it at the farm store it is.

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The studies of IVM efficacy and safety are a lot more conclusive than any the NIH or CDC have been pushing for other covid treatments or prophylactics, or that the FDA has approved. Take a look at bottom of page 2 on this NIH Table from July 2021: https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/ (Forget the first drug; it's a killer)

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We don't need studies. Look at Índia and other countries that have used IVM and their amazing results.

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It’s not going to hurt - I followed math+ in early July - protocol is designed to address the multiple attack vectors of this virus . I couldn’t care less which drug was the most efficacious. It’s like baking a cake - yeah you might be able to skip or substitute an ingredient - but it’s the combination of ingredients that produce the cake.

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I refuse to believe that all of the physicians around the world who are reporting great results with IVM are all lying.

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They have no incentive to lie.in fact - they’ve all suffered tremendously

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The 6,000 member doctors organization in Japan -- comparable to our AMA -- has recommended that Japan approve the use of IVM for the treatment of COVID.

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Who gives a rats ass about that “the studies are inconclusive”! If you use the IVM and it works, there’s your study! Also if you are in a ‘risk’ category where you may be exposed to people on a daily basis, you might want to dip into your stash of IVM and start taking a weekly “prophylactic” dose. I just heard an interview with Dr. Mercola and a doctor, Dr. Carvallo from Buenos Aires, who takes a prophylactic régimen of IVM once a week for 4 months, takes a two month break, then starts up the régimen again. His dosing is 0.2 mg per kilogram of body weight. (A kilogram is approx 2.2 lbs…same as a kilo of you know what weighs! 😉)

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Exactly, and there’s nothing to lose given the extraordinary safety profile of Ivermectin.

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exactly. When the medical field, CDC, NIH withhold valuable information which they do, all we have sometimes is anecdotal evidence.

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Calling studies inconclusive is the party line. I hope he's not going to flack for Merck's pill

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If he does, I quit! There will then be no hope left for humanity! ◄Dave►

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How about the Mega Analysis studies that are out there! The jab is also, not long term studied!

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Studies are not inconclusive.

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“News of India's defeat of the Delta variant should be common knowledge. It is just about as obvious as the nose on one's face. It is so clear when one looks at the graphs that no one can deny it. Yet, for some reason, we are not allowed to talk about it.

“Thus, for example, Wikipedia cannot mention the peer-reviewed meta-analyses by Dr. Tess Lawrie or Dr. Pierre Kory published in the American Journal of Therapeutics. Wikipedia is not allowed to publish the recent meta-analysis on Ivermectin authored by Dr. Andrew Hill. Furthermore, it is not allowed to say anything concerning www.ivmmeta.com showing the 61 studies comprising 23,000 patients which reveal up to a 96% reduction in death [prophylaxis] with Ivermectin.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout

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SOME studies are inconclusive. If you look into the details, those were studies testing IVM by itself. The successful use of it in India and other places was when it was used in conjunction with zinc, Vit C and D3. Our FDA still has not acknowledged these successes, nor approved IVM.

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Lots of bad studies getting lumped in with good ones. There is likely a window where a sufficient Ivermectin course of doses will make a difference, but we are not super close to figuring it out. Lots of already hospitalized people not responding to treatment hurting outcomes

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This is why Kory and Marick are always tweaking their dosage model with IVM. The last weekly update I saw they recommended 4-5 days early of higher doses rather than lower doses over a few weeks.

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Who is Alex? Joe Rogan had Dr Sanjy Guptha on and was giving him a good education about ivermectin and how his company (CNN) has totally suppressed how well it works. The Dr seemed like he didn’t know?? I’ve lost major respect for MD’s and or hospital systems.

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Alex Berenson, the originator of the substack you are literally posting on. lol

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He knew....just another bobblehead for CNN

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Exactly. Those who are peddling the narrative and are put on the spot (which is a rarity, so good on Joe Rogan) have to "pretend not to know things" in order to maintain the credibility they imagine they still have.

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Alex hasn't taken the time to do the research. It's out there in abundance, so I have become a little less interested in what he is doing. If you can't see the obvious, well what can I say.

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He also said the elderly should take the poke. Poison is poison no matter what age it is given.

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Agreed, he also said he hadn't been vaccinated, which is odd. He thinks of the "vaccine" as a therapeutic available for the near end of life folks. This is where he is out of his lane.

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Agreed. The vulnerable (children, elderly, immunocompromised) will not gain any protection by being shot up with poison. Period. In his logic, that the elderly should get it, I guess he could rationalize that children should get it too. Anyways. I was disappointed when I heard him suggesting the elderly would benefit from it. After *all* the data he reported on and *all* the conclusions he drew I was shocked. Still am.

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Anecdote: I took it, and I did not die. My whole family had contact with me when I was contagious and took the old Iv and nobody got Covid.

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I decided to start the Front Line Doctors Protocol about month and half ago which includes Ivermectin. No side effect issues and so far no Virus. I was already taking vitamins D and C.

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He said he isn't convinced the concrete evidence is not yet there. He definitely didn't say don't use it or that it's unsafe, or that it shouldn't be really available, etc.

I can respect that. He can't fight all fronts of this battle.

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There is no greater front in this battle than early treatment.

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Hey if I can figure out that it works he should be able to

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Dr. McCullough is a good one. He took a stance to pursue that facts and has paid a price. Early on he warned about numerous vaccine damage cases coming to his office. I think Baylor booted him for being truthful.

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I shared this with family members because I found it compelling. My brother called it “conspiracy theorist ideology” in a speech to “anti-government ultra-conservatives.” SMH. What is wrong with advocating treatment for sick patients?! It’s so sad how much division the propaganda is creating even amongst families.

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Especially when the treatments being used have extremely wide therapeutic windows?

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Dr. McCullough has three things most doctors do not possess: Brains, courage and a conscience.

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Yes and dr ryan cole as well

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As a physician I share his opinion.

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I agree, a must watch video

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Every Covid patient who has died without being treated with one of the effective protocols developed by front line doctors was the victim of medical malpractice.

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Indeed and there is no qualified immunity for having done so, but because it was done by the masterminds there will be no accountability.

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I also had covid with mid 80s oxygen levels, took ivm and next day levels climbed to low 90s, on second dose of ivm my oxy levels were mid-high 90s.

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If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you approximately, what dosage did you take, and what day post symptom onset was it?

I know someone who was 52, female, 135lbs, took on day 5, and recovered nicely, she said she clearly felt a change/improvement 24 hours post dosing.

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Late 60s, day 1 two pills of 6mg each and day 3 another two pills of 6 mg each. They sell them here with 4 in a pak.

I took them probably on day 5 or 6. The dr thought my oxy levels too low- mid 80s- and even told my husband he wanted to hospitalize me although i felt ok except was tired, low energy. He wouldnt prescribe ivermectin so i called a dr in the US and he emailed me prescription. The day after i took it my levels went up. I never would have gone to a hospital.

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Did you share your success story with your dr afterwards? Was he still in denial? I find all these doctors to be so irresponsible and unethical.

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The doctor who would not fill it---he actually said it was a very safe drug with no side effects but he could not recommend it because it was not under the normal 'protocol'---he was my husband's doctor, not one I would have used. He also wanted me to have a cat scan to see if i had covid pneumonia and i refused because of the radiation; later he said he was sure I had covid pneumonia but I know I did not, I never had trouble breathing, in fact my only symptom after the first 2 days of slight fever and chills, was low energy and low oxy levels. When my levels went up after taking ivm he was delighted saying 'see how i cured you' and i told him it was not him, it was the ivermectin; he was shocked. Even 9 months later the secretary of my husband used him and he still did not recommend ivm. I cannot stand doctors who do not think for themselves and are not informed of things outside their own book theories. Since my husband was being treated at the same time (not in person but via text!), my husband was sending my results to him, but I never would have used him on my own.

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My oxy levels normalized fast but i had low energy and tired for about 3-4 weeks

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How did you get it?

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Order Bimectin from Amazon. Horse ivermectin paste, 1.87% by weight. For a 60 kilo woman a squirt of about 3/4" per day for seven days plus zpak, zinc, D3, C and quercetin helped me get over covid in a week. Ideally get a teledoc to prescribe from a compounding pharmacy but if you can't, the horse paste works. No toxicity at that dose for either me or my husband.

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If you mean how i got the ivermectin, I live outside the US but a dr in the US sent me a prescription by email and i had it filled here. That was in january and i still use same prescription and they continue to fill it. I been stocking up on it!

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Is this for real?

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Hell yes ivermectin is for real and it works!!

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Look up dr Sabine Hazan on Twitter. She shares her patients' oxygen levels doing this after treatments.

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Can you give her link? Can’t pull her up on Twitter.

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Is what for real? Ivermectin?

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85%!! This is the greatest crime against humanity the world has ever known. I pray for the day poetic justice is finally served. To see all the people responsible stripped of every dime and asset they ever had and then of course jailed and/or executed as the Nuremberg Code states. I am shocked and appalled there are not riots in the streets for intentionally killing all the elderly. Mothers Fathers Grandparents Wives Husbands. Where are the families and the outrage? This was deliberate and intentional mass murder - how IGNORANT could people possibly be not to see the writing on the walls? I blame it all on the cell phones. Another deliberate and intentional diversion and dumbing down of society. Why people are BLIND to the glaringly obvious.

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Yes, there must be a reckoning for those responsible for the willful murder of many.

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I think it's too late. The time to rise up was April 2020 or even April 2021 after the world didn't open once vaccines were available. Since that didn't happen where is the way out?

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If you game theory it, maybe the outcomes were sought. Maybe they aren't blind at all.

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maybe so... but if healthy kids like this are gonna start dropping, they better hurry up and kill all of us, cause if not they'll be hanging from ropes.

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Yep. It's amazing how often the incompetence card is played and believed.

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My son and his girlfriend both got covid in late November 2019. They were attending UC Davis in California, which had/has an extremely large Chinese student population, many of which were from Wuhan. When they got sick, nothing at all was known about covid and the doctors were befuddled and could only say "something weird is going around and we don't know what it is." His girlfriend has asthma so she was having a hard time at one early point and went to the ER, where they put her on a nebulizer (with some kind of steroids, I believe it was) and she was given IVM as well.....at that early time they didn't know what else to do in her situation. She got better fairly quickly, although it took about a month to feel completely better again. Long story short, IVM was successfully used (probably by many doctors) as a treatment until politicians got their claws into the treatment, which they can't enrich themselves on in any way. IMO the political behavior of these people is criminal.

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Same. Got sick in early 2020 “before it was here.” Tested positive for antibodies later. Was 35 weeks pregnant, have asthma, was on oxygen for 8 days with this “mysterious illness.” Dry cough, high fever, bad oxygen levels. I didn’t receive ivermectin but steroids and IV azithromycin saved my life. Sometimes I think if they knew it was covid at the time I might have died. Perhaps I would’ve gotten no treatment, gone straight to the ventilator. What a headline it would’ve been to exploit for the fear mongering - “35 year old pregnant mom succumbs to covid.” So grateful that no one knew what I was suffering from at the time.

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I agree, had they known it was covid they would have said, “Looks like you have *covid lung*. There’s nothing we can do but turn up your oxygen and give you a ventilator, if needed.”

So sad!

Medical systems across America have gone corrupt.

BTW, so glad you survived! ❤️

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So many people I know myself included got sick in 2019. Thankfully the doctors treated it as an illness and people survived. It wasn't until it became politicized that everyone began dying instead.

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Exactly!!

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There is a story about ivermectin titled, India’s Ivermectin blackout - the secret revealed, by Justin Hope, M.D. You can find it at The Desert Review.com. In short,

India has been distributing it in the largest province, Uttar Pradesh, all year with major success. They have been sending out teams to test for covid. Anyone who tests positive is given kit that includes ivermectin. The WHO and CDC have suppressed the documentation of this great success.

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Agreed. I work in out-patient healthcare and we treat people with Covid. We are using the early protocol therapeutics and haven’t lost a single patient. Yes, some still needed hospitalization, but in low numbers. It is unconscionable that early protocols are not supported and promoted as treatment by the healthcare establishment, and especially, Anthony Fauci. Hundreds of thousands of people did not have to die; the numbers could have been much lower. So much distrust of the health authorities and the government has been created. I don’t know how these people sleep at night.

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Faux-i is a subhuman s**tbag, stop humanizing evil…

He wants death despair and decay, he doesn’t sleep at night because evil thrives in darkness.

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Do they do telemedicine?

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I used a telemedicine doctor out of Austin, TX. His name is Dr. Sayed Haider. He uses the PushHealth app. He prescribes Ivermectin along with other medications for prevention and treatment. He uses a compounding pharmacy and the medications are shipped to you, or you can request for it to be filled at your own pharmacy if they have it available and will fill it.

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I spend WAAAAY too much time researching this stuff. I spent 12 hours or so over last weekend reading and listening to doctors, scientists and engineers. I found this presentation by Steve Kirsch to be very informative for the number crunchers out there. He has excellent credentials too. https://rumble.com/vm8ayu-tfnt-1-covid-vaccines-have-killed-over-200000-americans.html

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Talk to your primary provider and make sure he/ she listens and respectfully debates issues and not just brow beat you into servitude. There are multi options, the key is FIRST be reliably diagnosed with Covid by Rapid Testing as known accurate, then appropriate meds and other treatment interventions, and do the best to stay AWAY from hospitals who will intentionally deny you less invasive treatments because being dead with Co\/id is their cash cow…

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Excellent suggestions and way ahead of you. ;) Already done all of that although I have yet to hear back from my doctor. I have a variety of things in place already for when I or my son get the coof.

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Knowledge is power Robin don't relent. Although there is little we can do I personally print out all the reputable articles and keep them in my car. When and if I encounter someone who is at least skeptical and/or hesitant I simply offer them to read some of the information I've uncovered and then make an informed decision. I given articles to my doctors after they encouraged me get the lethal injections KNOWING I also have antibodies.

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Yep. I do research on this stuff with a few friends and we've compiled a decent library of links and downloaded articles and videos. I try to share the info with people who are interested. Mainly I post stuff on GAB when I find good info. I'm @The_Lorax on Gab if anyone wants to connect. I follow pretty much anyone who likes or reposts my posts. We need a network of people sharing this info to awaken the sheeple. We live in a time of crazy propaganda. People think Pravda and Goebbles were bad with their propaganda campaigns but can't see the orchestrated propaganda narrative coming from all media and governments around the world right now. I get how people can fall into the "they can't all be lying" mentality but once you wake up and see what's going on, it's hard to believe so many are fooled. The good news is people are waking up every day with the craziness that is going on.

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Not sure if I read or heard this - one has to wonder why the Israel's of all people, would ever ever agree to experimental anything, right? Turns out their Goverment has protected and kept them safe for so long they put all their trust in them yet again when it came to the lethal injections. And now look at them?

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My mom is a doctor, and when Florida was having our bad wave, her favorite (unvaccinated) nurse died from CV. She was in her early 30s, pregnant, with a couple of young kids. It was heartbreaking. I've never asked, but assume that she was not treated with IMASK protocol. She was likely just told to stay at home until she couldn't breathe anymore, and it makes me so angry. Had she been given early treatment, she might still be here today.

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I just can't help but think what will be said years from now. I've a friend who's son was born in January 2020 and now has delayed speech inevitably caused by the masks and lack of interaction. The ramifications from this are infinite but more importantly how history will be written. Did anyone ever possibly fathom anything could be worse than 911 in our lifetimes?

It is unconscionable that this is continuing unabated. I keep thinking about the Daily Mail headline the day after Bush won his second term in 2003: "How can 59,054,087 people be

so dumb?":

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Don't even get me started on the physical and mental damage masking our children, especially young children has done! That is child abuse!!

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Yes! And there’s the antibody IV that saved my husband last December. It is being severely rationed of course but can save even those people in the last desperate throes of the virus.

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The monoclonal antibodies were (secretly) widely available until the country's best governor (DeSantis) started talking them up and making sure they were available in Florida. Very shortly after, Biden Inc. starting pulling back supplies and/or making the drug less available.

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"Unfortunately, we now know the vaccines do not preclude infection or transmission. As a result, we are forcing people to choose between their livelihoods and a freedom-robbing vaccination mandate with no rationale. We are only beginning to see the dire consequences of these ill-advised mandates."

Author: U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, a Republican from Wisconsin.

An Awakening? I hope more Politicians wake up !!!

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Unfortunately most politicians have been totally compromised

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https://rumble.com/vlpecw-the-story-of-ivermectin.html

The very interesting history of the drug, a Nobel Prize awarded for it, and the proof using millions of people this drug stops Covid. I think the more people that see it, the greater understanding of the crimes and lies as well as the worth of this drug.

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I watched that yesterday. Amazing, short and well presented breakdown on Ivermectin vs Remdesivir and the corruption involved. Can highly recommend! Thanks for posting Mouzer!

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This was actually on TV yesterday. My mother-in-law called me and said “hurry, put on channel 116”. I think the channel was called oao, or something like that. I was just very happy it was on the television!

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I was very happy that I had thought through this early. Had IVM on hand when my daughter became ill with Cov-19. Same experience, 2 days she felt better, 6 days later tested negative.

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Agree-this is Crimes Against Humanity

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My husband and adult son had covid. Neither me nor my 88 year old mother got it. Wish we had been able to get through to the FLCCC. Their websites were extremely overrun in August. Both of them were both pretty ill for a week. Thankfully they both just kept pumping the supplements even though they were vomiting constantly. Neither one had any lung or breathing issues and I was monitoring with an oximeter regularly. No one has had the v here. They are now both fully recovered and my husband says he feels better than before covid. Must be all the supplements we now take every morning! We take liposomal C, DK2, NAD, gluthatione, B complex, iodine, zinc, Niacin. Healthy as horses! :)

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So grateful you had the foresight and wisdom to get the care you needed for yourself and your husband, Megan.

It is absolutely sinister that people are being denied early treatment and told to go to the ER when it’s too late. How can serious people think - this many months in - that there are no ways to treat this? It really is maddening. But always good to hear a positive story like yours!

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Any specifics to this FLCCC website so others can access this should our partisan ignorant providers deny us access to interventions?

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if you just look it up online under FLCCC aliance or Dr. Pierre Kory. He actually testified to the US Senate on this treatment regime. (guess that didn't help alot) At least in the US you can find one of those doctors to help you. Canadians vilify the use of IVM

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His Senate testimony was removed from YouTube btw. Let that sink in.

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Thanks for the recommendation, hopefully I won’t need this but you never know, be safe and be well

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Thanks, I did find this site earlier.

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I used a telemedicine doctor out of Austin, TX. He treats patients all around the U.S. his name is Dr. Syed Haider. Here is his website. https://drsyedhaider.com/

He was very prompt in responding to me sent my prescriptions in very fast. I highly recommend him. If that doesn't work for you just go to the FLCCC website, they have a list of doctors all over the U.S. that are treating covid with Ivermectin and the I-Mask+ protocol.

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Thank you very much for the recommendation, hopefully I won’t need him but I’ll keep it on file in case, be safe and be well!

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Don't wait unti you get symptoms. You wanna have the protocol meds & supplements on hand. And get started on high dose C as well as D3 daily (5000). Get D level tested to make sure its optimal levels (50-80).

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America’s front line Drs is where you can buy it.

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Shawn would probably be deadlifting 350 pound at the gym today if only the "doctors" and "scientists" had focused on early treatment of this disease. Spending precious treasure on the fool's errand of developing a respiratory virus vaccine helped take a precious life. Shawn's family would do society a service by posting his complete medical history. I'm sure we'd all be appalled by his murder at the hands of the "medical profession."

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Absolutely. This infuriates me. Early treatment is critical. Nobody is talking about treatment options, and patients don’t have correct information about it. People are instructed to stay home until they are sick enough to be hospitalized. For some, it’s too late. This is crazy. Doctors are so caught up in this “group think” that they can’t see the forest for the trees.

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You are 100% correct. I'm 66 and contracted Covid last month.

My doctor did not bother to recommend ANY treatment. I knew enough to treat myself but started late because I thought I had food poisoning at first. 8 days in and still running a fever, I called my doctor and asked him to order Regeneron. I was very sick at that point - walking 20 feet was a chore. I'm healthy and very fit. The fever broke that night. 24 hours after the Regeneron I went for a mile walk with my wife. What IF I had not advocated for my health? It's ridiculous- many people are dieing because they don't receive early treatment. I'm unvaccinated and would not have been vaccinated even knowing what I know now. My stand on vaccination is out of concern for others, especially the children. We are risking evolutionary selection of something horrifically deadly with this mass vaccination.

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Beautiful💕its wonderful the way you think about others🥰

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Wonderful story and I think you are correct about the children and mass, coerced vaccination..it is a travesty! Well done in advocating for your well-being.

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What a fucking idiot.

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This isnt yahoo news here Urmama.

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Yeah this isnt any kind of news, this is facebook of your crazy aunt level of communications

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Ok

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Please just leave. You are totally free to go and you won't be missed.

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The CARES Act gives hospitals full immunity for Covid treatment, as long as they follow the NIH protocols:

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1432782568382939139

Then the NIH protocols are intentionally murderous:

- complete denial of any kind of early treatment;

- once hospitalized, continued denial of treatment until it's bad enough;

- once it's bad enough, kill the kidneys with remdesivir and destroy the lungs with forced air.

Voila, deadly pandemic!

Just two sources:

https://rumble.com/vklrax-dr.bryan-ardis-we-are-witnessing-intentional-medical-genocide.html

https://odysee.com/South_Carolina_medical_affairs_commitee_2021-09-15:2

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Plus it's easy to hide under-treatment, or wrong treatment, through "careful" documentation.

It comes down to a he-said she-said battles of lawyers.

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I wrote how early covid treatments work in my book for laypeople, The Defeat Of COVID, while citing over 500 clinical studies as evidence. This death and 100,000s others, perhaps 85% of them were preventable. Dr. Zelenko, Frontline Doctors, have been saying this endlessly for a year and a half.

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I follow you, Zelenko, and Frontline Doctors carefully. Thank you for fighting the good fight. I'm back to being a completely healthy 66 year old after Covid in great part due to the work you all have done.

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Very glad to learn of that. It keeps me going!

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Dr. Huber, glad to have found you again from Parler…clearly we need to find more NMD’s to advocate for us.

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I love your Substack. Great work! Part one of your history of vaccines was so informative. I hope you do a part on the child combo vaccines? I read long ago that one in 85 families will have an autistic child after the vax combos! And that wasn’t counting all the autoimmune diseases showing up in little kids. There were no autistic kids back in the Sixties!

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I'm not sure that would be true about no autistic kids in the 60's. I have an older brother (who is now 76) who I now realize was on the autism spectrum back in the 1950's and 60's. Doctors didn't understand autism then and didn't diagnose it as such. My parents struggled to figure out what was going on with him, and what doctors suggested back then was electroshock therapy, which they refused to do. I don't know what vaccines he may have had as a child or even if his autism was caused by vaccines, as many didn't yet exist when he was a baby or young child. I think as doctors came to understand more about autism, of course cases would seem to increase due to increased diagnosis. For a long time autism seemed to be viewed as existing only in its most extreme form, but from all the knowledge about it now, in the last decade or so I've come to realize that my brother has always been on the autism spectrum. He's just more capable and functional than many.

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Maybe he's more capable and functional than many because he didn't get the multitude of vaccines children get now. . . .?

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It would be interesting to do a survey of people who grew up in the 50’s and 60’s to see if they knew anyone who seemed autistic or was hyperactive. I only knew one kid who was hyperactive. I only know there was an explosion of autistic and hyperactive kids and it seems to coincide with the multiple vaccine protocols for kids. Back in the day we only got maybe three vaccines total.

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Where can I find what you wrote? Or are you part of the FLCCC?

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Dr Huber is on Substack!

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And many of those MDs who don't have "group think" are being prevented from prescribing therapeutics that work ~ to the point that some are being threatened by medical boards with losing their medical license.

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My 6-month appointment with my allergy/asthma/pulmonary specialist next week was cancelled yesterday. They said he's on "leave" and they don't know when he'll be back. He's one of the very few doctors I've seen in my 66 years that uses his training, experience, and excellent "gut instincts" to treat his patients. He's generous to a fault and will work with you regardless of your situation. I'm guessing he's on "leave" because he's refusing to follow the "guidance" of the public health officials hellbent on killing us all.

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I am so sorry to hear that your doctor is on "leave". It is scary to see how many of the good ones are being marginalize/censored. There is a group called Direct Primary Care, Inc., that cuts out the middlemen. They are all over the country and your doctor sounds like a good fit. Perhaps you could find someone like him at DPC: https://mapper.dpcfrontier.com/

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I feel as you do. This is so sad. We don’t know what early treatments were sought in this case but I do believe it’s key in beating this.

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You are assuming this family will associate vaccines as a contributing factor rather than pushing the idiotic “yes he died, but everyone should get vaccinated and his death would have been more painful without the vaccines”. This is a tragic loss and I fear this won’t be as uncommon as Fauci would pretend it is.

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The Problem is the Vaccine Kool-Aid drinkers will never put Two & Two together and realize what the Clots Shots are doing to Healthy People !!!

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Nope, if you're not humble and on the born-again journey, it's human nature to defend your decisions with all your might (even to your peril)...like a 2 year old covered in lipstick who says "no, I didn't take mommy's lipstick".

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“Vaccines guide you to a smoother death”

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another thing is that I know, having 2 sons in college, that young people are reluctant to take a parent's medical advice. They assume they can power through anything and don't need medicine. So we cannot assume that his parents were uninformed or not believing that vaccines are a danger. One of my sons has had covid and I guess from all of my lecturing he was scared enough to take the supplements I gave him. The other has not had it, and he's the type that I'm afraid will refuse to take anything. (I'll pressure thru his girlfriend in that case!)

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Tragic Story. The Shots Killed Him ! Destroyed his Normal Functioning Immune System ! With Effective early protocols This Should Never Happen !!!

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Vitamin D serum levels would be prudent. Vit D is a known cofactor in preventing pneumonia and several other respiratory disorders. The virus does not kill you, the immune system not being able to identify the virus and producing a cytokine storm is what kills.

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There are several vitamin supplements that are shown to be likely helpful to either avoiding Covid or increasing responsive to treatment interventions like ivermectin and HCQ.

But it’s moderation folks, don’t be clueless and think more the better, vitamin D toxicity is a real problem!

Also, this is a wake up call to responsible diet and exercise, I’m not pointing fingers at weight issues, but it’s time for people to wake up and realize, being responsible starts with the core of your life!

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So true! I agree you can take too much D (or anything) but people are generally so D deficient that the 250mg per day that your doctor recommends does nothing except keep you from getting rickets. I take 10,000/day during flu season.

I recently dropped 65lbs - just couldn't stand feeling so gross (had spinal cord surgery and couldn't exercise for years). Now at 60 I'm in the best shape of my life. Off all meds including blood pressure! Take all the supplements and Ivermectin every week. My husband had covid in December but I never got it. I swear it's all the exercise/supplements and no masks! Damn these doctors to hell. I will NEVER get any kind of vaccine...ever. I will never trust the medical establishment again.

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I have to agree with Julia below - the RDA for Vitamin D3 is based on WW 2 levels according to Dr. Ryan Cole. In the same presentation, he said Fraud-chi claims he takes 8-9000 IU during the winter. It begs the question: "Then why aren't you suggesting that for everyone else, sir?" Rhetorical question. All of us who have been paying attention know the answer.

I just had my level checked (75) and was told to discontinue supplementing by my PCP (2nd year in a row) and I ignore her. My pharmacist menopausal clinician, whom I trust FAR MORE than my PCP wants all her patients between 70-80. She considers Vit D3 supplementation non-negotiable and will not get into a debate over it.

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Couldn't have said it better. What a tragedy for this family and all who knew him. Heartbreaking and so unnecessary.

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Bro - 350? Try 450. Look at that picture. Kid was an absolute unit.

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Yeah, you're right. It's hard to even look at his picture - heartbreaking. A kid 2 years out of the same degree taught me how to lift 3 years ago. Changed my life. I was 63 at the time.

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I've been going to the gymnasium and gentlemen's hoisting center for about ten years now. Best decision I ever made.

Meanwhile, I get lectured by the morbidly obese and their usual bucket of other comorbidities on how I need a jab "for their safety".

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You're a goddamn idiot, vaccinated people arent dying in droves, unvaccinated people are. get help understanding logic. My god, or just stop participating in society, you are not enlightened, you are fully stupid.

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Do the math, leftist, more people are “vaccinated” now, so, go back to your safe havens at Pox, HuffingDrugs Most, NY slimes or Wash Compost…

Sorry, Urminion, we here deal with truth, not antisocial partisan agendas…

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Have you seen the stats in highly vaccinated countries?

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Who hurt you?

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Yep, the medical professional hit “them”(can’t call these folk men or women anymore)…

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The parents need to sue the University if it had a vaccine mandate for students.

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UGA doesn’t have a vaccine mandate. None of the universities in Georgia do

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To be more specific - public universities that are part of University System of Georgia don’t have a mandate. I believe some of the private universities do.

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Agreed. These cases need to be brought to bring some caution to these ludicrous mandates. It’s the only way they stop.

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HOW!! I've been trying to get a lawyer to help my son with his Uni's vax mandate. I can't even get an attorney to return our phone calls. The one lawyer who did, only said they won't take covid cases, period. Maybe the parents would like to sue and no lawyer will return their calls either. Please if you know how to find a lawyer, TELL ME!

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Understood and I see the same problem. The only thing that came to mind was to contact this woman Harmeet Dhillon (I've seen on TV) who seems to have filed multiple lawsuits vs. mandates. Full disclosure, I have no idea how skilled she is as an attorney, have never hired or talked with her, have no connection with her and do not know anything about her law practice or history so please do your own due diligence before hiring her or any professional for that matter.

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I’d like to know when he was vaccinated. If he had waning efficacy, and now succumbed to the virus… was he more vulnerable than he would have been if he had not been vaccinated? Was he recently jabbed and that lowered his immunity? So many questions.

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Same. Did he get early treatment? Was there an underlying condition that he didn’t know about? Could the vaccine have caused the strong reaction. I’m left more confused...

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Me too! These are things people need to know. What was he given--how did it get to the pneumonia stage? Which vaccine was he given? Did they try treating him? So many questions...

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or at least some scientist needs to know all of these things so they can come to an informed conclusion. Is anyone looking at all of this data? I sure hope so.

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You never get the full medical story. This kid might have had an undiagnosed underlying problem that added to his difficulties. But if you add up all the numbers, healthy young people under 30 don't have a good reason to get the jab, and they should NEVER be forced to get it. It's a shame that there is no impetus for those of us who work in hospitals to be submitting jab adverse events to VAERS. Not enough personnel, no time, and no $$ incentive to drive extra employment to get the job done.

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That will fall on deaf, agenda driven ears.

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Well, It is now October 14. Six weeks ago was September 1st, or the very start of school for most colleges/universities. Decent to average chance that he got himself vaccinated so that he could go back to school (speculation on my part, but definitely plausible). So there is a real chance that he got his second dose in the late summer and got sick almost right after.

Some vaccine.

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Right its not a vaccine its genetic therapy- focusing on its purported “ vaccine” issues is a rogues game.

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If he was ventilated in week 1 and spent the following 5 weeks in sedation the vaccine doesn’t really play into what killed him. Impossible to judge anything without knowing how he was treated.

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Myocarditis perhaps? So sad.

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It says he had Covid

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The same coroners that lied and said auto accidents were death by covid, could very well have lied and said a vax death was a covid death.

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Wrong focus- everyones immune systems isn’t the same so “ vaccine” efficacy levels change person to person. Alexs #s are averages. Focus on the initial and to come side effects- vascular and neurodegenerative

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If it was in the 2 weeks after?

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That’s so sad. He likely thought he was safe after being vaccinated. I’m sick of the lies. Especially when there are alternative treatments that work much better and don’t have the risks associated with this fake vaccine.

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Yes finally someone speaking the truth, all the vaccinted people will die, and then only those unvaccinated will survive and rule the world.

Stay unvaccinated and never wash your hands, the soap is toxic and is meant to kill your natural protection against diseases, lick every dorknob, shake every hand, and try to get close to anyone sneezing, this is the only way, rise up people!!! Once all the smart people are dead cause they took the vacccine, now us, deadweights of humanity and literal retards, can rise up and rule the world.

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Thanks for your sage advice! I will stay unvaccinated, especially since I already had Covid. So glad you’re here to make worthwhile contributions to the conversation!

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Urmama is proving to be quite the poster child for ego defense mechanisms.

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The trolls have arrived. Alex is doing good work.

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Wonder what protocol was used to treat him. We know that conventional protocol - stay home and do nothing until you're sick enough for the ER resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. Was he given monoclonal antibodies, etc.?

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^^^ Exactly this. Our physicians need to be held accountable for this.

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They don't give the antibody infusion to anyone under 50 in our county unless he's got some pretty significant comorbidities. This kid never had a chance.

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There’s at least one city in Georgia that offers it to anyone who has tested positive. They prioritize elderly but anyone can make an appointment. www.daltonga.gov/city council/page/city-dalton-offer-regeneron-treatment

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I think that's how it ought to be. I think everyone should be eligible.

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That was my first thought and question. What was his treatment?

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Remdesivir

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I sure hope they deep dive into the six weeks of “treatment” he received. Wonder if it included Remdesivir….so tragic. I pray fort his young man’s family and friends.

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Hey Twitter! Why haven't you labeled videos of Biden saying vaccinated people can't spread COVID as "misleading"?

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NBA Star Brandon Goodwin Gets Blood Clots, Says From Jab, Ends His Season, Possibly His Career

"I was fine up until I took the vaccine... the vaccine ended my season. One thousand percent.”

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Awful. Just awful. Praying for his family in this awful time...

On a side note, I asked my military doc here on post what is the protocol if I thought I might be sick? She said , "oh stay home and quarantine". No, I said, how do we treat this?? She replied she didn't know....hells bells, are you kidding me? Apparently I knew more about treatments than she. Very reassuring.

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lol. They didn't even tell you to go get monoclonal antibodies? Are you sure they were a doctor and not just some clown who stole a white lab coat?

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Nope. She said, oh go to the ER if you are feeling really badly. That might be a bit late?

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This is very strange for someone with his fitness level and age to die of covid. I wonder what role the vax played in his death.

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Tragic Story. The Shots Killed Him ! Destroyed his Normal Functioning Immune System ! With Effective early protocols This Should Never Happen !!!

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I'm going to guess that the vaccine killed him.

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It seems that perhaps the MOST fit are in the most danger from the jab because they work their hearts more.

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I have to wonder if he was forced to wear a mask. The only people I know who get pneumonia which is now called covid pneumonia are forced to wear masks. In years past, I seldom heard of anyone getting pneumonia. Now it is everywhere. And I am sure the hospital withheld life saving drugs from him. My heart goes out to his family.

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Two of my husbands co-workers had to take days off last week because their children were sick. Strepp throat. No doubt from wearing masks all day. When will this madness end?? May God comfort Shawn's family.

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The madness ends when we stop acting like stooges.

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The madness ends when our governments stop colluding with psychopaths. And when people stop acting like stooges.

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Those in government ARE the psychopaths.

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Those masks are filthy.

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My father in law got pneumonia (survived) . Never wore a mask

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I was short of breath for eight days but my O2 was fine (stayed 92-94 until I recovered). Nausea was a much bigger complaint.

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I got viral pneumonia when I had COVID in August. I was not wearing a mask and I'm the most anti-mask person I know.

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ADE. This kid probably would have been fine with covid with no vax.

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Hey doug fresh, you mean that vaccinated people are more likely to die from covid? Oh yeah 1 death makes headlines while unvaccinated millions of deaths make headline... Hmmm 1 vs 10million...

Do you know how to count? No nvm, dont tell me i know you don't How about you go crawl under the rock you live in and feast on the parasites that you call your friends. Either way stop posting on the internt, what a fucking waste of oxygen.

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I understand that Doug’s comment was not fully thought through and also full of potentially irrational speculation, however, to go to the insulting level you did in your reply is not needed.

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Nah it is... And if you dont think so you have no idea what is at stake, but then again, you are in this site, of all the good resources on the internet, you end up on this site, that has no filter whatsoever, that anyone can say anything they want without any shred of truth behind it. This is an antivax echo chamber.

Cesspool of the internet.

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You pro-injection freaks are quite the little rays of sunshine, aren't ya? You mad, bro? Well, put on your face diaper and rubber gloves and drive to the nearest jab center for a booster. That'll put a smile back on your face.

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Ahh yes, stop free speech because it’s not your narrative. Made me laugh.

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ADE is just starting to rear it's head. Buckle up buckaroo.

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It is so incredibly rare for a healthy person under the age of 25 to die from Covid that there has to be more to this story. As of last month, there were ZERO deaths among active/reserve US military under the age of 27 out of 1 million+ in that cohort. And that is with over 100,000 positive cases.

There has to be more to this than meets the eye.

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Yes, he was vaccinated.

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Exactly. We are starting signs of ADE including alarming data out of the UK showing vaxed people over 40 are now up to 2X more likely to contract covid.

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Source please?

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Thanks! Btw, wasn't doubting, but like to have documentation to share. I'm not vaxxed and don't plan to be.

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Even more interesting - the first active duty/reserve US military member to die from COVID under the age of 30 was Cody Andrew-Godfredson Myers, a 26 year old member of the Navy. He died on 2/4/2021, almost a year into the pandemic. prior to his death, the youngest active/reserve member of the military to die from COVID was 33 year old Nathan Bishop (Navy) on 12/2/2020.

And then two members under the age of 30 died at the end of August (Debrielle Richardson (29 Navy) and Edmar Ismael (27 Marine).

The news stories didn't specify their vaccination status, but I find it odd that there were ZERO deaths in the 27 - 30 Cohort for almost a year and then 3 in six months, with two happening within days of each other. And I haven't looked at the military data after August, so there might be more. It's time consuming, because I actually have hunt down the actual news stories for the military deaths (yes, you can find the individual news stories - military dying from covid is such a rare event that it always ends up as a story).

Maybe, just maybe, the vaccines have caused the (few) recent deaths under 30? If only there were journalists asking these questions. Ahem - Alex?

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Of COURSE the vaccines caused these deaths, if not directly, then by creating a more virulent virus through leakage. World's stupidest public health right here in the US.

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True, but in a world of lies, is it possible the military received placebos? I find it strange some Gov't entities are exempt, letter carrier's, etc.

Most of all I cannot believe this administration is allowing foreign entry into America with zero mandates on them. It's sad one has to think in a conspiratorial way, but too many obscure statements being made its hard not to.

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You're missing my point. Prior to the April 2021 (when the vaccine was offered to non-high risk people), exactly one military member under the age of 30 had died from COVID. Cumulative positivity rate at that point was roughly 8%, which meant that like 100,000 people in that age group had tested positive with exactly one death (at that point). No one under the age of 26 in the active/reserve military died from COVID between the start of the pandemic and 8/31/2021. That's out of almost 1 million people in that age group. So your odds of dying from covid in a given 12 month span are less than 1 in million if you are under 25 and healthy enough to be in the military (with or without the vaccine).

This poor kid should not have died. I think there are only a few plausible options here. Either a) he had an undiagnosed serious condition like lymphoma, b) he was a steroid user or c) the vaccine had some negative impact on his outcome. Regardless of the above, the efficacy of the vaccine must be absolute shit if it couldn't save someone in his age group with his BMI.

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Apologies, typo in my original comment. As of August 31, there were no deaths under the age of 26 in the active/reserve US military. Substack won't let you edit comments.

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I'm posting the names, date of death, branch of service and age at time of death for all of the active/reserve military deaths up through 8/31/2021.

Interesting that there were 10 deaths between January 2021 and July 2021 (including Jan/Feb which were the highest death months for the country as a whole). And then 9 deaths in just July and August, Including two people under 30. Again, none of these news stories post vaccination status, but I find it odd that the deaths increased significantly (while still remaining VERY low for those under 30) just as the talk of vaccine mandates in the military was ramping up.

Note - I wasn't able to find the name or age of the 24th person that died. I believe the person was in the Texas Air National Guard, and they weren't releasing his info for some reason.

1. Douglas Linn Hickock 3/31/2020 National Guard 57

2. Robert Thacker 4/13/2020 Active Duty Navy 41

3. Simon Zamudio 5/22/2020 Army Reserve 34

4. Curtis Lamar Fort 7/30/2020 Army Reserve 61

5. Brian Tolliver 8/15/2020 Army Reserve 46

6. Withheld 8/24/2020 California National Guard 36

7. Clifford Gooding 9/3/2020 Army Reserve 58

8. Mike Markins 9/29/2020 Army Reserve 48

9. Simon Flake 11/16/2020 National Guard 45

10. Kenneth Hara 11/22/2020 Air National Guard 52

11. Robert Lawson 11/24/2020 North Dakota Air National Guard 48

12. Bill Prokopyk 11/30/2020 National Guard 48

13. Nathan Huff Bishop 12/3/2020 Navy Reservist 33

14. Setariki Korovakaturaga 12/11/2020 Active Duty Army 43

15. Lisa Maria Soto 1/6/2021 Active Duty Army 38

16. Michael W. Morris 1/12/2021 Active Duty 36

17. Abdigafar Warsame 1/21/2021 Navy Reservist 52

18. Goran Dimovski 1/31/2021 National Guard 40

19. Darryl Lovell 1/28/2021 National Guard 58

20. Herbert Rojas 2/2/2021 Active Duty Navy 50

21. Cody Andrew-Godfredson Myers 2/4/2021 Active Duty Navy 26

22. Marcglenn Orcullo 2/12/2021 Active Duty Navy 42

23. Justin Huf 2/21/2021 Active Duty Navy 39

24.

25. Michael Wilson 4/29/2021 Active Duty Navy 45

26. Corby Ropp 7/23/2021 Active Duty Navy 48

27. Allen Hillman 7/26/2021 Navy Reservist 47

28. Daniel Moise 7/27/2021 No Longer in Military 31

29. Scott Flanders 8/2/2021 Active Duty Army 56

30. Kellice Armstrong 8/7/2021 National Guard 49

31. Michael Riddick 8/15/2021 National Guard 49

32. Robert McMahon 8/14/2021 Active Duty Navy 41

33. Debrielle Richardson 8/13/2021 Active Duty Navy 29

34. Edmar Ismael 8/14/2021 Active Duty Marine 27

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I know everyone is unique but there was an interesting observation in my family. My 22 year old cousin got double vaxxed to attend her college graduation. She’s a professional dancer, so very fit. She got covid and was extremely sick for a couple weeks. Told me she was laying on her floor all night, coughing so hard it made it hurt to breathe. Her mom (my aunt), who is in her mid sixties and not vaccinated also got covid. She felt crappy for a few days. For 2 days had 103 temp but otherwise mild symptoms…mild cough, mild congestion in her sinuses and was better in a few days. Is it possible that the vaccine can lead to worse infection? Both my cousin and my aunt took vitamins and quercetin. No iver or anything else. But again it seems covid infection is very unique to each person. Was an autopsy done on this young man? I’m also very curious what kind of treatment he received.

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Vaccine Enhanced Disease is a REAL Phenomenon !

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Also know as Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE)

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Could become to be known as “spew green zeal population control invention“…

Don’t put it past these elitist scum have horrifically decided who is irrelevant inconsequential and disposable…

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Yes thats why everyone vaccinated is dying and all unvaccinated people are surviving, oh wait... Nevermind, forget what i said im stupid.

Also twsitertim, you are an idiot, and lick my balls.

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Wow, You lose any credibility in a discussion as soon as you start the name calling.

Sounds like you regret getting vaxxed. I wish no bad will towards any vaxxed, it is just that individual health is being ruined because of the Covid Vaccines!!

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Antibody dependent enhancement. This kid would have been fine w covid if he never had the vax

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That’s what’s so baffling about this disease. I had zero respiratory symptoms but had the worst runny nose ever, a headache, a little achy one day, loss of taste and smell for about 4 days. November 2020 and still have decent level of antibodies (mine 525, 2,500 is deemed really high.) I was 57 at the time. Meanwhile my 19 yo son was miserable for a week when he had it, fever, coughing, loss of smell/taste. 59 yo hubs just had severe fatigue. So strange.

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The virus was engineered in labs by CCP scientists funded in part by media's favorite little psycho egomaniac, Anthony Fauci. It doesn't act like other viruses because it isn't a product of nature, but of gain of function experiments.

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Yes, this is very true.

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I will repeat this...I am a 20yr healthcare industry investor, which has included vaccine companies. I have invested upwards of $15mm in vaccine cos before and I STUDY VERY CAREFULLY where I put my and my clients' money. My assessment of the vax industry for a long time has been that it is terrible - a terrible industry and a bad investment save for one area, animal vaccines, where (up until covid) ALL the money was. Big Pharma has been spinning out its vaccine businesses for decades bc they've sucked. It is VERY hard to come with something good, it takes AGES to get it thru dev/test/approval and then you face the CERTAINTY of getting sued ALL DAY EVERYDAY by the tort industry and crazy moms. That's a terrible business. So capital and scientific talent have been fleeing the business over decades. The exception is animals - our pets and those we eat. ALL the money in the vax industry has been in the animal segment. There were a few moonshot companies left hoping to come up with, well, a moonshot. Moderna was one of them, BioNTech another. Both were focused on cancer. Both worked on mRNA which ALL the Big Pharma cos knew about and could have BOUGHT at any time prior to Covid. They all passed on it bc it was too untested, too uncertain, no clear pathway to success.

With Covid all the big problems were solved - legal, lengthy approval - by capitalizing on covid fears. And in the age of EVs and cryptocurrency where ppl blindly accept "new stuff" as good, mRNA could be sold as innovative rather than sketchy and untested. This was the background when they came out w the nonsense claims of 95% efficacy and no side effects. ANYBODY with an ounce of knowledge about the vax industry could have told you that both those claims were nonsense from the start. Only question was just HOW MUCH nonsense...alot or a little. We are finding out the answer to that now.

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Lick my balls

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the quality of debate coming from the other side...

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Funny isn't it? Impotent rage. Blithering fury. Why?

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Vax Regret !!

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Sounds like you regret getting vaxxed

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Imagine living in the USA in 2021 and not understanding the concept how corrupt MSM is and that they purposely talked shit on ivermectin as a prophylactic treatment plan. They are actually complicit in the deaths of countless people. All about $$$ folks, control, and division. I am not a religious person but there are demon's out here in this world and it's getting scarier by the day.

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Lick my hairy balls

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Nah, I'm too big and too strong.

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Fully vaccinated. When did he get vaccinated? If early spring, he was not protected by vaccines. If Recently, it suggests vaccines diminished his immune system. It is why we continued to see spikes in cases and deaths right after administering vaccines. We are all a unique ecosystem. I agree with all that said the refusal to administer life saving protocols early for so many, suggests many wanted the death count to be high to usher in vaccines. Now to usher in another pill.

I know a doctor, his brother, sister in law that got virus, while wife did not. Bizarre. All about the same age around 70. Doctor was hospitalized but came out fine.

If I had not gone through years of cancer, I would be much less suspicious of science community. What I saw daily at my cancer hospital destroyed my faith in doctors and science community. It is all about money. It is about recommending pills. Surgeries. Watch Lennox Hill on Netflix. With this virus it was all about billing as a virus for the huge compensation by government to these hospitals. When I got cancer at 40, I was forbidden to ask why by my doctors. 25 years later different state, different doctors, even worse. Refused to discuss why. They get hostile if you ask. They just want you to take poison and be grateful.

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My cancer patients and I have discussed that question of why on every initial consult for the 15 years I've been in practice. We look at the toxic exposures they've had. It's a necessary part of healing, because usually damage can be reversed and should be. But then I'm a naturopathic oncologist, and we think a little differently than the mainstream.

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I would love you. I have seen several oncologists over my 25 yr with breast cancer. The mere mention of “why”, they say sends the message to patient that somehow it was their fault. Well duh. While I was never “fat” because I worked on a farm, went gyms, rode horses, my sugar intake was horrific. I had migraines, could not sleep, joint pain. Sounds like inflammation? Duh. As soon as I gave up sugar, at least eliminating candy, soda, cookies, baking items, which I am a good baker, all my symptoms went away. If I eat improperly, mild symptoms appear. I am very active which has saved me. If cancer docs had let me talk, they would have found out my grandmother died of same disease, same breast, same type. I was around DDT as a kid. I was an environmental activist around formaldehyde, and then later around crushed tires as horse footing which sparked an inflammatory response. See what they could have learned? Nobody cared nor follows me. It is because I refused chemo. I disobeyed and I was shunned.

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The real pandemic is that none of these vaxxed or unvaxxed that come down w/ the virus are NOT receiving the proper medical care! Send them home w/ no instructions except to return to hospital when breathing becomes impossible. Put on a vent- no other treatments- & then, good luck!

Criminal.

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A complete and utter failure of our medical system, mostly CDC/FDA/HHS they should all hang their heads in shame rather than pumping a leaky vax that might not ever work... Seriously, there needs to be indictments.

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Terrible news. 🙏✝️🙏

I wish we could know how his case was being handled in the hospital. I have to assume they were using the deadly CDC Protocols...

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Alex- are you concerned that this has a component of the ADE concern, more generally vaccine enhanced disease-- as many scientists and doctors have been talking about?? Ive heard of more and more "Covid Pneumonia" in the vaccinated.

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From everything I've read, ADE occurs when the vaccine has waned significantly. The timing of his vaccinations would be nice to know...

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This was my first thought. Horrifically tragic story, and makes me think ADE.

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This is gut-wrenching news and the family's grief is immeasurable. At the same time, it is a clarion call for all of us to educate ourselves in the event we find ourselves with loved ones hospitalized with COVID-19. Just as an example, there is a too-frequent occurrence where Dexamethasone is administered where Methylprednisolone should be the choice. This is because it has both genomic and non-genomic effects on the virus and it penetrates the lung tissue more effectively than Dexamethasone. Additionally, there are protocols which are successful for ICU patients which begin with core meds but also implement first and second line adjunctive therapies as needed such as Cyproheptadine. We can only hope that all stops, on-label and off, were pulled out to save this young man. My gut says not which only worsens the tragedy of his passing.

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Vaccinated people accounted for 82% of Covid-19 deaths, 69% of hospitalisations & 54% of cases in September according to official figures

https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/14/82-percent-covid-deaths-vaccinated-ade/

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Vermont: 76% of COVID deaths in the state during September were among the vaccinated

https://vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/10/12/covid-rising-faster-among-vaxxed-vermonters/

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I'm from VT and the Governor/VT Department of Health/liberal media are doing their best to obfuscate the facts and push the vaccine ~ 🤦‍♀️

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With Bernie Sanders running the triage at hospitals across the state

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I live in a small town, the last two months the obituaries are full of 30-40 year old people who are dying unexpectedly. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I believe there is something going on.

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Sorry…

Spew Green Zeal 🤮🤮🤮

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The vaccine alone will cause more deaths than all of our wars combined. Soon it will not be an unavoidable reported fact as pulmonary and congestive heart failure cases spiral out of control. Many of the "censored " doctors will be proven correct. Sorry if this causes any anxiety, but if my comment deters one young healthy person contemplating the vaccine it's worth it.

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The Problem is the Vaccine Kool-Aid drinkers will never put Two & Two together and realize what the Clots Shots are doing to Healthy People !!!

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If this is true, Taiwan appears to have more post vaccination deaths than from covid itself

https://medicaltrend.org/2021/10/10/taiwan-death-from-covid-19-vaccination-exceeds-death-from-covid-19/

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The vax wipes out your innate immune system, unfortunately this will keep happening

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I'm noticing the fully vaxxed people around me getting the sniffles and colds they can't shake.

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Me too!!!! They are getting a “ cold” and it is lasting for months or they get better, then a week later it starts again! But…. I’m the conspiracy theorist so.. 🙄

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The exact same thing is happening with many of my vaxxed friends - only they are much sicker than they would be with a typical cold. They have all the classic signs of full-blown Covid - high fever, shortness of breath, severe cough. They have all tested negative for Covid, but are really sick for around 3 weeks. They then start to feel better, only to have it come back around a month later. And this has been happening over the summer. I am really worried for this cold and flu season.

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I’d love to know the cycle threshold they are running on the PCR tests for vaxxed Vs unvaxxed! Common sense tells me for the vaxxed it’s a much lower cycle then the unvaxxed that’s why they are coming back negative for the vaxxed when they clearly are positive!

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Long haul covid. They’d still benefit from taking IVM (according to FLCCC).

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Wait until winter comes....

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My software guru son informed me that a Medicare AI program concluded after examining numerous Medicare case history's that the "vaccines" gave ZERO protection after six months. He also informed me as did the anesthesiologist next door that a comparison of clinical trials concludes that Ivermectin and antibodies are more effective treatments than the new $700 Merck pill. Imagine that.

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The 18 year-old son of my mom's handyman, who just began college on a full baseball scholarship and was a legitimate pro baseball prospect, reluctantly got one of the clot shots under pressure from his school's vaxx mandate. I don't have the full details, but he's been hospitalized several times, is out of school, will never play baseball again, and is simply fighting for his life.

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Horrible

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They will continue to blame the unjabbed. That you can count on. It is far too critical to their plans that the division in society continue unabated.

Let's be clear. The left (i.e., authoritarians) never, ever admits wrong doing about anything. Ever. It is a cardinal sin.

You're talking about the same people who said Bengazi was started by a YouTube video.

That Trump colluded with the Russians.

That the dementia patient received 81 million votes.

That voter fraud doesn't exist.

That China virus started in a wet market.

The Godless do not repent. Ever.

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It would be nice to know the time frame between when he was vaccinated and when he was infected with COVID. Did he get COVID during the well-known period of compromised immunity following the first shot? Was this vaccine-induced COVID? That's an important question.

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LOL. Sorry bro, those are important questions but we are now living in a clown world. You're not supposed to ask questions. You're just supposed to forward this story to friends and family and tell them to be careful, mask up and get vaccinated.

I'm being sarcastic btw. hard to get that across in this format.

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Technical definition of “fully vaccinated” means two weeks past your second shot (or if J&J, first shot) so it would most likely be after that period.

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He was fully vaccinated when he died. He had pneumonia for six weeks. So it could well have been a vaccine-induced infection. We need the specific timeline to answer the question. Unfortunately, hardly anyone knows to even ask it.

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According to some microbiologists and Infection Disease researchers, Vaccine-related pneumonia, Disseminated Vascular Coagulation, and clotting in the brain were concerns even back in the 2000's when they were researching the SARS cov-1 MRNA vaccine. The European Medical Agency was queried about not sufficiently addressing this concern with this MRNA Covid vaccine back in February. But, the EMA provided no information to allay concerns. All of the side effects: headaches, breathing issues, full head feeling, confusion, strokes, brain clots, eye issues, tremors, Bell’s palsy, paralysis etc, can be attributed to blood clots, formed because of this vaccine, and the dual viral and bacterial defense it causes the body to mount. It is deeply grieving to see young, vibrant, healthy people cut down like this. I am grateful to Alex Berenson for letting truth be heard, in spite of the cost.

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A diagnosis of MYOCARDITIS is a grave diagnosis. It is permanent, irreversible heart damage. It has a 5 year survival of 50% and a 1 year of 20%. In short that means that only 50% of people with this diagnosis live 5 years. 20% die in a year.

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Yet another tragic unnecessary death that won’t be reported by the main stream media

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Tragic Story. The Shots Killed Him ! Destroyed his Normal Functioning Immune System ! With Effective early protocols This Should Never Happen !!!

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Still need to know did he delay treatment or was he denied some of the proven effective therapies?

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I am sorry for his family.

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This is clearly the fault of the unvaccinated. One of them must have spread it to him!

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The vaccinated can spread the virus as easily as the unvaccinated, as indicated in Israel.

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I hope you're just being sarcastic, Wesley.

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Of course! You don't think anyone would actually unironically believe that do you?! That would be very sad and silly.

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These days it’s best to end such comments with “/sarc” though I wonder if people would know what that means. I knew you were just being sarcastic!

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Let's not lose our sense of humor like the asses pushing masks and vaxxes.

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You should check out VAERS & educate yourself as to what is going on in the most vaccinated countries in the world before blaming the unvaxxed.

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Wesley's comment was CLEARLY sarcastic.

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WHOOOOOOOSH right over your head ;-)

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I hope your comment is intended sarcasm, if not you're wasting money posting here.

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If the vaccinators wanted to know whether antibody dependent enhancement is a problem with these coronavirus vaccines, as it has been with others in the past, they would be studying the body of this unfortunate young man. The pathology in the lungs from an infection complicated by ADE is different from the pathology of the infection alone. If we are seeing ADE with these vaccines, the general population deserves to know it and the vaccine insistent need to stop pushing it on legitimately skeptical people. As in past attempts to vaccinate which resulted in ADE, these vaccines should be discontinued and early treatment recognized as the necessary approach.

The astounding lack of pathological examination of vaccine recipients who have died is very revealing. The vaccinators are not interested in the results of their project on any scientific level. They are only interested in pushing it forward.

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So many unanswered questions so many hypothesis. In answer to Deb's question I think most families don't want to admit partial culpability. I can't help but think of all the millions of people pushing these lethal injections and when the truth finally surfaces, will be riddled with guilt and take their own lives. From the mere person who recorded the radio commercials to the entire medical community. When the dust finally settles will they even exist or will people finally switch to alternative medicine and drug therapies? Previously we all thought that was quack medicine. NOT anymore! I am beyond shocked how many medical professional's have never even heard of Dr's McCullough, Yeadon, Zelenko, Kory, Montagnier, Sucharit Bhakdi, Judy Mikovich. How is this even remotely possible? It really makes you wonder what kind of medical care we've received up until now. That any doctor or medical personnel would actually promote these injections?!? I can't fathom how the medical community will survive once the truth becomes front page news. Who in their right mind would ever again trust a drug company or doctor? People frown when we say this is genocide. They forget how many MILLIONS of people Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Mao murdered. The one common denominator these people all share is insanity. Does anyone truly believe Bill Gates is not worse than all of the above combined? He's behind all of it. His money has infiltrated everything. Fauci is nothing but a fall guy whose stupidity Gates exploited. The "divorce" was merely Gates liquidating his assets as he knows once the death rate starts climbing he's finished. People truly believe none of this is possible but until you've been around people with this magnitude of unimaginable wealth - you have no idea how mentally unstable they all are. Look at Hollywood and how NUTS all of them are? Now they're flying to the moon? Imagine having every single thing in the entire world - no wants, no desires, no wishes, no dreams. It's inevitable you would then become insane. Where is the happiness? Taking over the entire world is the only thing they have left. They truly perceive themselves as being above all others. Look at Davos and how they all congregate every year? It's a pissing contest of wealth and status. I can think of few less pitiful then they are. How can people not see there are more of us then there are of the 1%. You don't need a fence at the boarder because there's already one around the entire Country and the American people are the ones in the corrals. How much longer will this continue before there is finally civil unrest? How many more people ill be murdered? Once they go after the children however that will be the last and final straw.

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First, RIP Shawn Kuhn.

Next, Alex Berenson is to be commended for his research in pointing out vaccination "failures". They are certainly not the panacea they were purported to be 8 months ago. It is good for us to know that, both on a personal as well as epidemiological basis.

That being said, highlighting each death such as this has a serious drawback. In the first (and ongoing phases of the pandemic) authoritarians like Fauci and media organs like the NYTimes engaged in this in order to drum up fear. That was, and remains, clearly wrong. Now, however, "our side" is engaging in the same tactic--highlighting individual deaths--in order to make "our" point...that vaccines aren't all that.

The logical fallacy at work in both cases is confirmation bias. And it's incredibly easy to produce given the influence of media/social media.

Not to make light of Shawn Kuhn (heaven no, we have kids of our own who remind me a lot of him), but let's think about it. College age children die every year from various causes--including respiratory ailments such as pneumonia. It would be relatively easy, as has been done with Covid, to fashion an all-consuming narrative about virtually any push-button topic. And it has been done. Think "fraternity hazing deaths", "campus rape", etc, etc. A narrative in which nearly every bit of news is viewed through that prism. Covid is all these things, on steroids.

It produces an unbalanced way to view life, risk, and virtually everything else. We should guard against gratuitously using news such as the above to engage in the same illogic that has driven our national thought process for the last year and a half.

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This is a tragedy that probably didn’t need to happen but the suppression of lifesaving info is deliberate and total. Many on this thread reference the FLCCC for the heroic work they are doing. Please consider a donation to them. I did. They appreciate it. (I am not affiliated).

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My husband has a job that puts him in contact with lots of different people. Recently, he was talking to a nurse who said the majority of people in our college town trauma hospital ICU with Covid were students at the college and young people. All must be vaxxed because the unvaxxed were kicked out of school. The majority of the "hospitalized" Covid cases were asymptomatic and found when admitted for other issues.

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And, I should add he has had two more ICU nurses since tell him the same thing.

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Our college town has about 2000 out of 8600 students still unvaxxed despite the school threatening expulsion to unvaxxed kids. The picture isn't as clear as the University would pretend. I'm opposed to the vaccines but it's hard to know where the bullshit ends and truth begins.

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They publicly announced they were expelling X number of students who weren't vaxxed in early October. All the large public schools in our blue state did.

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They won't do it here. The layoffs would hurt the cushy lifestyles of the bloated admin and faculty.

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RIP mate and condolences to you family and friends. When TF are we going to stop this ?.

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Had he gotten ivermectin, zinc, quercetin, and vitamin d (the direct kind) he would be alive today, im also sure that the vaccine greatly hurt his immune system and probably contributed to his death. Disgusting world we live in

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Yeah, everyone who got the vaccine is going to die, you will however survive. Elixir, whatever your real name is, you're the most stupid person in the world, along with most people commenting in here, a cesspool of antivax idiots licking eachothers assholes.

1 vaccinated death vs millions of unvaccinated deaths, Oh yeah, VACCINES ARE SO BAD!!!

get help before you need help changing your socks.

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A perfectly healthy young man like him, yes he would have absolutely survived with therapeutic drugs which are far safer and more effective than the useless jab. The vaccine gives young men a high risk of myocarditis, it's nowhere near as low risk as the lying CDC has suggested, and why would they? They are directly invested in and largely funded by the very companies they are supposed to regulate.

You're also a complete moron on the statistics, there are 16,000 deaths reported to VAERS, and it's known to be vastly UNDERREPORTED. The actual deaths is likely much higher. Even in vaers, there are 200,000 hospitalizations from the vaccine, many of which result in permanent health disabilities. The morons who actually believe the CDC statement that 99% of deaths are unvaccinated will believe in just about anything from hacks like Fauci who directly funded this virus.. and youre idiotic enough to trust them still. Tons of deaths are fully vaccinated, they literally just lied because there is no mechanism for them to know which patients died that were fully vaccinated or not, let alone the timing of their "report" was impossible to make that judgement call with millions of cases from hospitals.

The CDCs own data also shows that 24% of hospitalized patients, many of which are dying are fully vaccinated. In the UK 71% of hospitalizations are fully vaccinated, and the rate is NOT LOWER THAN HERE. In singapore with an insanely high vaccination rate over 91% they have AN EXPLOSION OF CASES HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS. In australia there are more people dying from the vaccine than actual covid. You gullible liberals are honestly the dumbest morons of the planet, you on one hand pretend youre anti authority, anti capitalist, and then you get slightly frightened and suddenly youre listening to the most corrupt organizations on the planet.

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Your “rage” is coming across loud and clear. You may want to perform a self analysis of what is making you act and “speak” this way. I truly do hope you can be more positive and less insulting moving forward. I know you can do it and we are all pulling for you.

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Furthermore, the often-stated premise that the covid vaccines prevent serious cases (even if they don’t stop infection) is a myth. It is being repeated without (honest) evidence and without any scientific explanation for *why* it could be so (per Geert Vanden Bossche’s tweet in link).

https://twitter.com/gvdbossche/status/1446527021698408450?s=21

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Waterford, Ireland goes from the most vaxxed (99.7% of over-18s) in Europe to the most Covid cases in Ireland in 17 days 🙃.

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India has under 20% vaxxed in a population of 1.38billion. Numbers are at an all time low, "cases" and deaths. Pre vax program around 160k alleged covid deaths. rose to 451k after vax program initiated. (Annual) All-cause Mortality 10million.

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There’s no two ways about it; genocide is being committed on a massive scale.

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So I found his personal trainer instagram account. IG: Shawn.kuhnfit

Timeline:

April 13 - Started the account

April 19 - Posted about getting the first shot

Then several posts. Never mentions the second shot, but you can assume he probably got it around May 1 - May 15 (somewhere in there). Again, doesn't mention the second shot, but wasn't posting every day. So could have gotten lost in the shuffle.

June 15 - posts that he hasn't posted in a while. Said he hadn't felt strong or felt like taking pictures/videos. His last post before this was May 26.

Posts 3 more times with the last post on July 2nd.

Again, looked like he was in pretty solid shape. Posted about the 1st shot but didn't make a big deal about it. The mid-June post was interesting (said he hadn't felt strong). Not really a ton to go on. None of the articles I've seen mention underlying conditions. Nor does he in his IG posts. Steroids? Maybe, but that's just pure speculation. He doesn't look like the Ultimate Warrior in his photos.

I guess the big issue here is that if he got his second shot somewhere between May 1 - May 15, he would have been "fully vaccinated" in the May 15 - May 30 window. We know he got sick in late August/Early September.

So an extremely low risk, fit 21 year old caught COVID, battled the illness and died from it all within 4 - 5 months of being "fully vaccinated".

Safe and "effective" my ass. These vaccines are hot garbage.

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