Yoel whines about right-wing pressure on Twitter in a new NYT op-ed. He seems to forget DEMOCRATS have been in power since 2021 - and the worst recent censorship of all came on Covid from the left.
I've written this before, but it bears repeating. It's not garden-variety, random dis/mis-information that's being censored. It's anything that goes against the government narrative, whether the government narrative is true or not, that is being censored.
And this is the obvious and predictable consequence of government being able to determine what is and isn't allowable speech. Dissent is quickly put into that latter bin........
Evil Incarnate….great handle…perfect description of the Democrat Party. What you say is true but can’t think of one instance over the last three years where the government narrative was anywhere close to true.
“A free society is anti-fragile with respect to speech. It doesn’t need to censor. False beliefs are self-correcting as the insightful outcompete the confused. Censorship and coercion are authoritarian partners. If censorship is required, it is to prevent freedom, not protect it.” -- Bret Weinstein
Debate should never be shut down....empty for inappropriate language and name calling. Have we fallen so far that Americans can no longer disagree intelligently?
I have not found a way to lesson those reactions from what I say. I have tried rephrasing, putting them in the some position, rhetorically, and ask how they would feel or respond. Always they go with the name calling and often profanity.
Hey Alex - quick reminder that prior to three years ago, Yoel is most likely someone you would have thought was on "your team" politically speaking. How does it feel knowing that the leftists that you used to rub elbows with in New York and California ended up being some of the worst tyrants in modern history? Do you have any regrets for supporting them in the past?
Would you admit that they are worse than the Orange Man yet? The guy who bloviated a lot, but never actually took overt action to muzzle, or worse, imprison anyone without real due process? Or do you still have some more self reflection to go through?
para-phrasing Orwell(very common these days) no greater joy for people than one that creates a cause that allows you to demonize and punish people in the name of the Greater Good!!
the sad thing is when I read these authors in high school the Soviet Union and Stasi were still in business I thought "thank God we are not like that and never could be."
True, as to the censorship, the Trump administration did not - as far as we know - attempt to muzzle speech, but he did give us Operation Warp Speed (and continues to brag about that) and it was he who elevated Fauci. If Trump had been a stronger leader, he could have stopped the insanity. But it just goes to prove, Trump is not the fascist dictator the left claims he is and there are forces more powerful than he. (I do believe that at the beginning of the Covid insanity, Trump tried to inject some sanity but he was quickly shut down by powerful forces, most powerful of all imo, the media. ) It really doesn't matter who you rub elbows with, we are not in control of the show.
Agree mostly. Not sure that Trump elevated Fauci. Fauci had a top position, relevant to c19, at NIH. But Trump did not demote him or get him out of the way. Although I think politically that would have been hard in 2020.
Just imagine if Trump would have replaced the ELF fraud with someone like Jay Battacharya or say Scott Atlas just where we would be, and how humanity would have been effected, with actual non biased and non corrupted science to drive an agenda. Imagine what the children would NOT have been put through and in some BLUE areas STILL are!
Yes, but we do not know what bureaucratic restraints he was under. The president is not a king. Lacking the support of his own party leadership must have meant a lot of dancing around eggshells.
True! regardless, IF it would have-could have been done imagine what would NOT have been done to humanity and especially the children with the common sense and non corrupted individual's mentioned put into the ELF frauds place. In hindsight, it is a damn shame it was "allowed" to continue.
Oh, I agree. I just now sent an email to my boss at the medical school I teach at in Japan. We are still required to wear masks, though I do not and expect each day to be my last there. My children had to wear masks at school until May 8th of this year. Most of their schoolmates and teachers still wear them and they are not allowed to talk during lunchtime. My 10 year old now can not clearly understand spoken language and has developed pronunciation problems. How could it not be the case given that a full third of their life at this point they have not heard their native language spoken unless through at least a mask and often more.
The Trump administration did attempt to censor speech before leaving office. Then the totalitarians in the Biden administration and showed how real censorship works. Then Biden started attacking parents or any political foe of any leftists crazy. If Trump is the nominee I’ll vote for him because his nonsense doesn’t effect my life, nor tell my daughter her immutable biology and bodily safety comes second to coddling the delusions of men. I simply refuse to vote for the party of child genital mutilation and sterilization and race hate and WEF tyrants. That said, I make the decision eyes wide open - Trump did try to censor (just not as aggressively), Trump did screw up Covid response she, Trump still touts harmful clot shots, Trump is trying to re-write history on his biggest screw up. It’s sad to me that Trump, acknowledging all those things, is still light years better than any Democrat the DNC will run in 2024.
I agree NCmom, on Trump still trying to claim the clot shot was a success. I have my own issues with Trump, and this is one of the bigger ones.
I expect he'll be the Republican nominee, and if he is, I'll vote for him. If anyone needs a reason, we can all be sure, for him, the media will actually do their jobs and hold him to account.
How Trump is NOT addressing this say's a lot about him doesn't it considering what was allowed to be done with humanity. I say this loving his policies for the most part, but like you this arrogance, pride or intentional choice not to come CLEAN on this one issue sits very very badly in the larger context of humanity.
Trump was influenced by people he trusted. Had they been honest with him and the rest of America they would have explained to him what we know now. It was the flu, a very bad and new stain but the flu non the less. It should have been allowed to run it's course. there would have been fatalities, but probably not what ended up with. and natural immunity would have prevailed. The Spanish flu was just as bad if not worse but the Marxist at the time couldn't capitalize on it. In this case, It became the Marxist's opportunity to highjack an election and steal more power to fuel their insane agenda which couples with the global plans for world dominance.
How Trump continues to tout OWS as something GOOD is pretty surreal for sure knowing what WE all here have known, and for a long time now about the realties of the greatest experiment on humanity in the history of time in full scope. Does he not KNOW that "we know" as Oliver Anthony so well states in Rich men North of Richmond.
I like Alex as a journalist, but I'm tired of his slow walk towards reality. When he writes about Trump, he assumes the absolute worst. When he writes about his former friends, the left wing totalitarian mob, he refuses to call them out for what they really are. I doubt he is on their side, but the cognitive dissonance that he is working through is thick.
To recap, the modern day lefts wants to:
- Imprison (or worse) anyone who disagrees with them
- Force everyone on earth to take multiple experimental injections
- Allow and encourage doctors to mutilate the genitals of physically healthy children
- Coerce the press into presenting their side of an argument as gospel
- Turn the legal system into their own personal kangaroo court
- Import the entire third world
To Alex, all of the above is still water off the duck's back. He still believes that what occurred during Covid was due to a few bad actors, not systematic rot on the far left.
I like his reporting, but it is time for him and others like him to WAKE UP.
Check out Glenn Greenwald, Matt Tiabbi, and Michael Schellenberger (sp?) To discover classic liberals. They exist and are flourishing on Rumble and here on Substack. And they aren't indifferent.
You for got teach overt race hate, terrifying young people there is a non-existent climate emergency, promote pedophilia, tell women they have a legal duty to allow men into all female private areas and sports (even rapists) no matter the harm that comes to us, impoverish the masses with intentional inflation, and keep WW III as a viable option to remain in power or literally burn society to the ground.
While I'm not inclined to take Alex to task on his, perhaps, residual inclinations, I agree with what you listed for the "modern day left's" ambitions/goals. I am inclined to think, at the point we are at in the country, that this has been an intentional drive to inflict as much chaos and damage on the U.S as can be. Who is ultimately the driver behind all this?
I do not know why I feel I must defend Alex against your points, especially as I have the same questions, but how many people did you trust only to find them to be not who you thought they were these past 3 years? The vast majority I people I mingled with up until early 2020 I care not to ever speak to again. Am shocked at how differently they reacted to this whole mess that what I was led or allowed myself to be led to believe they would.
Alex has made huge progress. He may come around. We need to ask these questions but not expect answers. This is something he must ponder and come to his own conclusions over.
Yep. And they need useful idiots, who either I understand that, or are so blind to principles of freedom (blinded by the “religion”?) that they blindly support.
I guess there is another group...those have been taught to hate hate hate Trump Trump Trump that anything on their side is justified.
'Yes, in the end, Yoel’s motto seems to come down to: Censorship for thee, but not for me.'
Enough.
Gavin Newsom at the French Laundry.
Pelossi at the hairdressers.
AOC maskless in a very expensive gown at the gala.
Kerry flying around on private jets.
Al Gore, Mr Climate Change, building a 35,000 SF house.
BLM avowed Marxists buying multiple homes for themselves in white neighborhoods.
Biden is all about taxing the rich except when his son doesn't pay millions in taxes - and all about taking away guns except when his kid lies about his drug habit and buys a gun, then leaves the gun near a school yard - and all about putting DT in jail for stuff the Biden Crime Family are way over the top doing but being protected by the alphabet agencies and media.
Oh. And Alex Berenson censored by the White House for quoting from the CDC website. Seriously?
I could go on as there is an abundant supply of 'for me but not for thee' examples to chose from.....
Alex, any chance of an update of the effects of the 5th Circuit decision on your lawsuit? Seems like they affirmed a lot of things that are foundational for your suit, which I'd assume must be a good thing. On the other hand, is there a risk of some amount of "this has been dealt with, yours is no longer an issue" happening here? Any thoughts you can share would be of great interest to me, and I suspect, to many others as well. Thanks, and keep up the good fight!
To repeat my comment below, quoting Jeffrey Tucker of the Brownstone Institute on the 5th Circuit decision:
"The lower court’s injunction included restrictions on a whole host of agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security (and its sub-unit, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, or CISA), and the State Department and its relationships with other third-party agencies.
I was personally disappointed that the initial injunction did not name the CIA and all of its thousands of proxies, to say nothing of the other 400-plus agencies in the administrative state of the federal government.
What’s strange and disappointing is that the appeals court stripped all of this out of its ruling. It vacated the most devastating parts of the injunction, including that which hit the DHS and the State Departments. It specifically stripped out the list of defendants.
I’m not a lawyer or an expert in administrative law, but the decision is packed with hints and suggestions that this injunction might be mostly cosmetic. It stops the most aggressive and overt censorship but also offers a road map for how they can do this in other ways, simply by burying the mechanisms of control one layer more deeply.
In short, the initial injunction did not go nearly far enough. The renewed injunction with its careful carve-outs is far more toothless still.
What are the next steps? There will eventually be a trial and decision. That is likely to be settled for the plaintiffs in some measure and will imply certain policies. That could be appealed to the Supreme Court. This might take years to unfold. In the meantime, it’s not clear whether and to what extent the true Deep State does face much of a restriction on its activities.
One way we will know could come in a matter of days. If the White House appeals this injunction to the Supreme Court for an emergency ruling, it would suggest that some people at the top are very worried, even to the point of panic. If they do nothing, which is very possible, it means that they can live with the current ruling. That would be a very bad sign."
Yes, I saw the mistake in the first paragraph! Fixed.
This article puts Andy Slavitt in a box now! Hopefully we can get a few more shoes to drop soon enough. Great work and Happy New year.
I've written this before, but it bears repeating. It's not garden-variety, random dis/mis-information that's being censored. It's anything that goes against the government narrative, whether the government narrative is true or not, that is being censored.
1984
always rewriting history to match their 'truth de jour'
Right! It's never been subtle or less than obvious has it, and yet the average DEM voter STILL votes for this...
And this is the obvious and predictable consequence of government being able to determine what is and isn't allowable speech. Dissent is quickly put into that latter bin........
Evil Incarnate….great handle…perfect description of the Democrat Party. What you say is true but can’t think of one instance over the last three years where the government narrative was anywhere close to true.
“A free society is anti-fragile with respect to speech. It doesn’t need to censor. False beliefs are self-correcting as the insightful outcompete the confused. Censorship and coercion are authoritarian partners. If censorship is required, it is to prevent freedom, not protect it.” -- Bret Weinstein
https://www.euphoricrecall.net/p/quotes-and-links-7c1
Fascists, socialists, communists and other authoritarians want power. It’s as simple as that. Shut down debate to ensure it.
Always pointing their fingers and accusing others of doing what they are so blatantly guilty of
Commie 101. Project and deny...
Debate should never be shut down....empty for inappropriate language and name calling. Have we fallen so far that Americans can no longer disagree intelligently?
From my experience, for a long time now, any debate on any topic of real importance quickly devolves into profanity and name calling.
Yes and true....but we have the ability to lessen the amount and reaction to it....and we NEED TO DO IT NOW.
I have not found a way to lesson those reactions from what I say. I have tried rephrasing, putting them in the some position, rhetorically, and ask how they would feel or respond. Always they go with the name calling and often profanity.
Hey Alex - quick reminder that prior to three years ago, Yoel is most likely someone you would have thought was on "your team" politically speaking. How does it feel knowing that the leftists that you used to rub elbows with in New York and California ended up being some of the worst tyrants in modern history? Do you have any regrets for supporting them in the past?
Would you admit that they are worse than the Orange Man yet? The guy who bloviated a lot, but never actually took overt action to muzzle, or worse, imprison anyone without real due process? Or do you still have some more self reflection to go through?
Or treat other human beings as vermin for not taking an experimental drug.
Or muzzling children for two years.
On and on.
para-phrasing Orwell(very common these days) no greater joy for people than one that creates a cause that allows you to demonize and punish people in the name of the Greater Good!!
oops - i think its huxley
Yup. It is..."the height of psychological luxury...the most delicious of moral treats..."
the sad thing is when I read these authors in high school the Soviet Union and Stasi were still in business I thought "thank God we are not like that and never could be."
I know! Unbelievable.
And even the children of parents that fled here because of communism now support all the nonsense on the left.
True, as to the censorship, the Trump administration did not - as far as we know - attempt to muzzle speech, but he did give us Operation Warp Speed (and continues to brag about that) and it was he who elevated Fauci. If Trump had been a stronger leader, he could have stopped the insanity. But it just goes to prove, Trump is not the fascist dictator the left claims he is and there are forces more powerful than he. (I do believe that at the beginning of the Covid insanity, Trump tried to inject some sanity but he was quickly shut down by powerful forces, most powerful of all imo, the media. ) It really doesn't matter who you rub elbows with, we are not in control of the show.
Agree mostly. Not sure that Trump elevated Fauci. Fauci had a top position, relevant to c19, at NIH. But Trump did not demote him or get him out of the way. Although I think politically that would have been hard in 2020.
Just imagine if Trump would have replaced the ELF fraud with someone like Jay Battacharya or say Scott Atlas just where we would be, and how humanity would have been effected, with actual non biased and non corrupted science to drive an agenda. Imagine what the children would NOT have been put through and in some BLUE areas STILL are!
Yes, but we do not know what bureaucratic restraints he was under. The president is not a king. Lacking the support of his own party leadership must have meant a lot of dancing around eggshells.
True! regardless, IF it would have-could have been done imagine what would NOT have been done to humanity and especially the children with the common sense and non corrupted individual's mentioned put into the ELF frauds place. In hindsight, it is a damn shame it was "allowed" to continue.
Oh, I agree. I just now sent an email to my boss at the medical school I teach at in Japan. We are still required to wear masks, though I do not and expect each day to be my last there. My children had to wear masks at school until May 8th of this year. Most of their schoolmates and teachers still wear them and they are not allowed to talk during lunchtime. My 10 year old now can not clearly understand spoken language and has developed pronunciation problems. How could it not be the case given that a full third of their life at this point they have not heard their native language spoken unless through at least a mask and often more.
Thanks for this. Good to know I am not the only one to hold this belief.
The Trump administration did attempt to censor speech before leaving office. Then the totalitarians in the Biden administration and showed how real censorship works. Then Biden started attacking parents or any political foe of any leftists crazy. If Trump is the nominee I’ll vote for him because his nonsense doesn’t effect my life, nor tell my daughter her immutable biology and bodily safety comes second to coddling the delusions of men. I simply refuse to vote for the party of child genital mutilation and sterilization and race hate and WEF tyrants. That said, I make the decision eyes wide open - Trump did try to censor (just not as aggressively), Trump did screw up Covid response she, Trump still touts harmful clot shots, Trump is trying to re-write history on his biggest screw up. It’s sad to me that Trump, acknowledging all those things, is still light years better than any Democrat the DNC will run in 2024.
I agree NCmom, on Trump still trying to claim the clot shot was a success. I have my own issues with Trump, and this is one of the bigger ones.
I expect he'll be the Republican nominee, and if he is, I'll vote for him. If anyone needs a reason, we can all be sure, for him, the media will actually do their jobs and hold him to account.
How Trump is NOT addressing this say's a lot about him doesn't it considering what was allowed to be done with humanity. I say this loving his policies for the most part, but like you this arrogance, pride or intentional choice not to come CLEAN on this one issue sits very very badly in the larger context of humanity.
Well stated!
Trump was influenced by people he trusted. Had they been honest with him and the rest of America they would have explained to him what we know now. It was the flu, a very bad and new stain but the flu non the less. It should have been allowed to run it's course. there would have been fatalities, but probably not what ended up with. and natural immunity would have prevailed. The Spanish flu was just as bad if not worse but the Marxist at the time couldn't capitalize on it. In this case, It became the Marxist's opportunity to highjack an election and steal more power to fuel their insane agenda which couples with the global plans for world dominance.
How Trump continues to tout OWS as something GOOD is pretty surreal for sure knowing what WE all here have known, and for a long time now about the realties of the greatest experiment on humanity in the history of time in full scope. Does he not KNOW that "we know" as Oliver Anthony so well states in Rich men North of Richmond.
SNAP
I like Alex as a journalist, but I'm tired of his slow walk towards reality. When he writes about Trump, he assumes the absolute worst. When he writes about his former friends, the left wing totalitarian mob, he refuses to call them out for what they really are. I doubt he is on their side, but the cognitive dissonance that he is working through is thick.
To recap, the modern day lefts wants to:
- Imprison (or worse) anyone who disagrees with them
- Force everyone on earth to take multiple experimental injections
- Allow and encourage doctors to mutilate the genitals of physically healthy children
- Coerce the press into presenting their side of an argument as gospel
- Turn the legal system into their own personal kangaroo court
- Import the entire third world
To Alex, all of the above is still water off the duck's back. He still believes that what occurred during Covid was due to a few bad actors, not systematic rot on the far left.
I like his reporting, but it is time for him and others like him to WAKE UP.
Yeah. I hear you.
What I want to know is what happened to classic liberals?
It is astonishing to me to see my D friends act as if this shit isn't happening, or worse, indifferent.
Indifference eventually ends in a situation where the more obvious something is, the more illusory it becomes.
It's a strange phenomenon, but it bats 1000 historically.
Check out Glenn Greenwald, Matt Tiabbi, and Michael Schellenberger (sp?) To discover classic liberals. They exist and are flourishing on Rumble and here on Substack. And they aren't indifferent.
Russell is great too.
I'm not as familiar with Rumble though
Rumble is where Glenn does his daily live show.
Yup. I follow all three.
Greenwald is how I found Substack
You for got teach overt race hate, terrifying young people there is a non-existent climate emergency, promote pedophilia, tell women they have a legal duty to allow men into all female private areas and sports (even rapists) no matter the harm that comes to us, impoverish the masses with intentional inflation, and keep WW III as a viable option to remain in power or literally burn society to the ground.
I have to agree. I've had enough of the cognitive disonance.
While I'm not inclined to take Alex to task on his, perhaps, residual inclinations, I agree with what you listed for the "modern day left's" ambitions/goals. I am inclined to think, at the point we are at in the country, that this has been an intentional drive to inflict as much chaos and damage on the U.S as can be. Who is ultimately the driver behind all this?
George Soros?
The WEF lead by Klaus Schwab?
The UN?
Just a few guesses.
All three.
We must remember that this is not a US centric problem. All this is going on just about everywhere.
I do not know why I feel I must defend Alex against your points, especially as I have the same questions, but how many people did you trust only to find them to be not who you thought they were these past 3 years? The vast majority I people I mingled with up until early 2020 I care not to ever speak to again. Am shocked at how differently they reacted to this whole mess that what I was led or allowed myself to be led to believe they would.
Alex has made huge progress. He may come around. We need to ask these questions but not expect answers. This is something he must ponder and come to his own conclusions over.
Alex is a great journalist. He asks others tough questions that need to be asked.
He should be prepared to ask himself tough questions as well.
Yes, yes he should.
Without censorship and intimidation, there is no modern democrat party.
Yep. And they need useful idiots, who either I understand that, or are so blind to principles of freedom (blinded by the “religion”?) that they blindly support.
I guess there is another group...those have been taught to hate hate hate Trump Trump Trump that anything on their side is justified.
accuse anyone who falls back on the Trump card of laziness
Lazy can be used to correctly describe anyone who who believes anything in the news without looking into it further.
We need to take this country back so that WE are the refs!
That's the topline and the take home imo.
From Roth's Op Ed:
"Universities are cutting back on efforts to quantify abusive and misleading information spreading online."
Corrected version:
Universities are cutting back on efforts to quantify information the regime in power disagrees with or doesn't like from spreading online.
This is a huge win for free speech!
Thanks so much Yoel for providing more ammunition in Berenson vs Biden. Keep feeding us more and more key censorship data.
'Yes, in the end, Yoel’s motto seems to come down to: Censorship for thee, but not for me.'
Enough.
Gavin Newsom at the French Laundry.
Pelossi at the hairdressers.
AOC maskless in a very expensive gown at the gala.
Kerry flying around on private jets.
Al Gore, Mr Climate Change, building a 35,000 SF house.
BLM avowed Marxists buying multiple homes for themselves in white neighborhoods.
Biden is all about taxing the rich except when his son doesn't pay millions in taxes - and all about taking away guns except when his kid lies about his drug habit and buys a gun, then leaves the gun near a school yard - and all about putting DT in jail for stuff the Biden Crime Family are way over the top doing but being protected by the alphabet agencies and media.
Oh. And Alex Berenson censored by the White House for quoting from the CDC website. Seriously?
I could go on as there is an abundant supply of 'for me but not for thee' examples to chose from.....
Again I say ENOUGH!!!
that is because they are right and you are wrong.
and no need to check facts, that is passe. by your opposition to them you are proving your wrongness.
Alex, any chance of an update of the effects of the 5th Circuit decision on your lawsuit? Seems like they affirmed a lot of things that are foundational for your suit, which I'd assume must be a good thing. On the other hand, is there a risk of some amount of "this has been dealt with, yours is no longer an issue" happening here? Any thoughts you can share would be of great interest to me, and I suspect, to many others as well. Thanks, and keep up the good fight!
To repeat my comment below, quoting Jeffrey Tucker of the Brownstone Institute on the 5th Circuit decision:
"The lower court’s injunction included restrictions on a whole host of agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security (and its sub-unit, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, or CISA), and the State Department and its relationships with other third-party agencies.
I was personally disappointed that the initial injunction did not name the CIA and all of its thousands of proxies, to say nothing of the other 400-plus agencies in the administrative state of the federal government.
What’s strange and disappointing is that the appeals court stripped all of this out of its ruling. It vacated the most devastating parts of the injunction, including that which hit the DHS and the State Departments. It specifically stripped out the list of defendants.
I’m not a lawyer or an expert in administrative law, but the decision is packed with hints and suggestions that this injunction might be mostly cosmetic. It stops the most aggressive and overt censorship but also offers a road map for how they can do this in other ways, simply by burying the mechanisms of control one layer more deeply.
In short, the initial injunction did not go nearly far enough. The renewed injunction with its careful carve-outs is far more toothless still.
What are the next steps? There will eventually be a trial and decision. That is likely to be settled for the plaintiffs in some measure and will imply certain policies. That could be appealed to the Supreme Court. This might take years to unfold. In the meantime, it’s not clear whether and to what extent the true Deep State does face much of a restriction on its activities.
One way we will know could come in a matter of days. If the White House appeals this injunction to the Supreme Court for an emergency ruling, it would suggest that some people at the top are very worried, even to the point of panic. If they do nothing, which is very possible, it means that they can live with the current ruling. That would be a very bad sign."
and Boom!
I fear it is becoming harder and harder to persuade anyone to be concerned about censorship per se.
until it HAPPENS to them. Some delusional people who still don't SEE what is going on simply need a stiff wake up call in their own existence
He's correct. It's not machine learning or algorithms. It's humans.
It took some work, but a human was able to turn off the HAL 9000.
F him
They got f ing paid.
Ps
By the Biden administration.
So again F HIM
Not a very bright move on his part but, hey Yoel, thanks for the gimme!