There is truth to what you state if they were actually liable for every single damage. There is a vaccine damages court in the USA (I forget the correct name of it) and if i could post an image here, i would post an image that shows how Pfizer has already paid out billions through this court for damages by injections etc, and i can't remember right now exactly, but the reason why it is not well known among the great public is because of the wealth-power such major corporations have to suppress such info and to make the receivers of the monetary compensation sign a NDA etc. They are that immensely wealthy that they can pay out billions, and still have billions left over with their upper echelon satanic business. Robert Kennedy Junior really does a good explanation of it.
The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, which has paid out $4 billion in damages since 1986 through the US Court of Claims. (And it is extremely difficult to prove a claim with this court.)
Pfizer has the distinction of paying the largest total of criminal fines in US history, for felonies, also in the billions. All of this should have been common knowledge to all Americans before even one uninformed person rolled up the sleeve.
The payments are made from a tax that we the people pay when we get a vaccine. While it is noted that the vaccine company made the damaging vaccine they don’t pay anything
It was about time someone posted this little known fact -- it is WE THE PEOPLE that are paying for any awards -- if or when awarded. Complete and total collapse of all things ethical and just for the majority of the people while a select tiny group grow wealthier and wealthier. All criminals across the board in all major sectors and institutions of our society. We must fight back.
When people bleat on about Communism and/or Socialism (do they really understand the difference?) they never seem to think about things like this. For the ultra wealthy, profits are always capitalist in nature, their debts are always collectivized among the poor.
Thank you Colleen for that, yea, that's the name i couldn't remember at the time of typing. I appreciate you refreshing my memory on these so important things.
Peter Breggin MD also has one out with 1000+ citations on all the global fraud that this scamdemic has perpetuated. Intro's by Zelenko and McCullough as well.
I got a copy of the draft pdf for prepurchasing in August and it's a wow. Looking forward to the RFK one soon. (No - I don't get any compensation for the plug)
David Martins 217 page dossier on Fauci is good as well as Judy Mikovits stories of Fauci when she worked with him in the 80's. I assume there is more to come with JFK's investigation too
T-shirts that say 15 boosters With a picture of person who has spike proteins all over their body/skin so that they can barely walk because of being weighed down by them. Sort of Funny in a sadistic way, as sadistic as the entire matter has become!😫😂
https://www.gov.il/en/departments/guides/information-corona?chapterIndex=1 For those on this site that aren't completely captured by narrative, take a look at the data out of Israel....guessing Alex will lock out his Israel posts to paid subscribers for a while. They are at 2.3% positive rate and an amazing 83% of their severe cases are in unvaccinated. Their are easy to follow since they enable Hebrew to English translations with a buttons now...wonder if it was because some people were misrepresenting their raw data...so I guess maybe you caused one good thing Alex. The world will hit 6.5 billion and US will hit 400 million covid shots Saturday both on Saturday. We should easily be at 550 million. Two things to look for on vaccine misinformation...Nirvana fallacy (if something isn't perfect, it isn't good). SImpsons paradox (example going into a population that is 95% vaxxed and saying "look it's not working, half of cases are vaccinated" and then not mentioning population. I can show vaccine efficiency against severe outcome is order o magnitude by normalizing the populations and breaking into age ranges....and can do it on countries or states people randomly name....because it's data.
With all due respect, no one will rid this virus by vaccination, mask or isolation. Mother Nature will make sure of that. I respect your stance and right to cite what you have, but I do not trust these vax or the powers behind them. You will not change my mind. Please stay healthy and happy.
What really worries me besides the awful near term side effects among just the people I know personally (never mind stats on large populations), are the long range effects of putting viral mRNA in every organ of the body including the brain. The near term side effects are bad enough. But what happens in a few years to those in whom the lipid coated mRNA particles (Pfizer, Moderna) crossed into the brain? Or into the ovaries or testes? No way would I subject myself to that risk, nor anyone I care about.
Good for you Zade, stand by your convictions. We are all worried about long term issues like auto immune dz but at that point the medical community will say it has nothing to do with the vax. They have come so far that to come out and say they are wrong, they will not do. The corrupt will continue to hide behind their lies. Hold on, it is going to be a bumpy ride.
I really hope the optimists like Mike here are correct. In fact I have a two pronged prayer: that I'm wrong and they're right, OR that God will give everyone's body the vigor to completely destroy the LNP of mRNA and DNA before they get anywhere but a few muscle fibers. I hope Yeadon is flat wrong. But I'm sorry that people in my family took the shots, and will never take them. Ever. Even if there are no ill consequences, they're made using cell lines from slaughtered babies. That's evil enough.
Stay healthy and happy as well. SIngapore sure tried but when Delta came they realized that getting to zero was not possible so they spend a month getting their already high vaccination rate higher and opened up in August. They have cases but their high vaccination rates kept them from many severe outcomes. Long term lockdowns are unhealthy in many ways. High vax rates reduce severe outcomes by order of magnitude. Masks are a limp along until we get higher vax rates. Also, we'll keep on improving treatments. The Principle trial should be over in December from UK and they have 6 interesting ones in the trial (including Ivermectin, was disappointed with Brazil results in August but certainly looked interesting in smaller studies). I have faith in God/family/and friends. Outside of that, I don't trust narrative, I trust raw data. Heaps and heaps or raw data looked at 20 different ways and always challenged. Open the Israel site or the Wisconsin site...I shouldn't change you mind but raw data should.
I also follow my gut instincts, they have never steered me wrong. Stats can be changed and manipulated. 3 friends have used Ivermec w/in 2 days of infection 3 and 4 months ago and recovered quickly with no hospital needed. I have Ivermec just in case. If you love this vax, that is certainly your choice and more power to you but as for me, no way. If nothing else made me skeptical, forced mandates have. The more they mandate, the more dug in heels they will get. When you force something down peoples' throats, all they do is vomit it up..... thank you for the courteous exchange of dialogue.
Thank you as well. It is very hard to prove a treatment and when something is not statistically proven, it does not mean that it is disproved. We pick a p<0.05 to establish confidence. I saw an Ivermectin study with a p=0.19 which I consider good. Had expected the Brazil study in August to give the sample size to allow it proven and it did not but hopefully the Principle study in UK will in December. In Ivermectin's previous dose usages it appeared to have a good safety profile and 3.7 billion human uses (which doesn't match covid vaccines 6.5 billion but few things do). It is inexpensive in most places. I have high hopes (please check with your doctor since I have no clue if someone is pushing crazy dosing and I am not a doctor). Stats can be manipulated. Berenson does that with something called SImpsons paradox where he will go into a 95% population and say "look this went up". Or look at Uttar Pradesh who used Ivermectin (without mentioning they will pass us in first vaccine dose % soon...and I don't know how to break that out)...expect him to go into Singapore because they recently opened up so their cases will go up...but to focus on the cases not the hospitalizations. If he's still around doing this next year, he'll do in US what he has done in highly vaxxed countries and people will believe him because they heard the 99% severe being unvaccinated (real but not normalized the other way). I believe hugely in personal freedoms and don't support mandates or censorship. Having that belief and seeing misinformation I feel an obligation to post actual data and context. Have a great night and whatever you do, I hope you have a healthy and happy year.
Know my dosing is good, have a functional doc since my regular doc drank the kool aid! Plus I am in the medical field and can figure out my own dosages! Yay Ivermec!!!! Personal freedoms rock...I wish every citizen of the world could know what it is like to have them.
"For those on this site that aren't completely captured by narrative"
That's amusing. You can't remember any point in your life before you believed in vaccines can you?
You have believed in them ever since your parents and kindergarten teacher told you to.
You've never once stopped to verify any of the claims made by those who are pro-vaccine you just assumed they were unassailable.
For example, when you were told that the rubella vaccine prevented millions of cases of congenital defects, did you ever bother to check to see if congenital defect rates had actually fallen?
When you were told that because of the polio vaccine, most paralysis cases disappeared, did you bother to check the data for total rates of paralysis?
When you were told that the Hepatitis B vaccine would reduce people's chances of developing liver cancer, did you bother to check if liver cancer did indeed fall?
If you want your heart to sink to somewhere around the bottom of the Mariana trench, I would suggest looking for this data.
I am generally provaccine and haven't looked at much data besides covid vaccine data. I try not to comment on items that I haven't researched. Actually got into this with intent to prove to friend that covid was being overcounted by looking at total death data.....but surprise...when I dug in the data I saw that wasn't the case and my view changed to match the data I was seeing...which is what people are supposed to do that aren't captured by narrative.
It is great we are not all clones, imagine how boring the discourse would be. Appreciate your candidness Mike, especially since you have a tough road on this thread. Both sides are passionate and perhaps the goal should not be conversion, but conversation. Have a good night!
Agreed. The beautiful thing that exists in data analysis that doesn't in many other areas is that the answer is in accurately assessed data. I cringe when I see articles pushing that they need to get the vaccine rate in the under 30 up to what it is in 65+ group....I'm looking at the data and not against lower age vaccination but want a strong message out to older people who haven't had coronavirus before that they are in the bullseye. Alex posted in article in January about how a ton of vaccinated people died after vaccine in (I believe Norway nursing home..long week). There is an 80 year old couple that still hasn't vaxxed because of that. I just saw an older couple thank Alex on a post for warning them about the vaccine a few days back. He restricts posting on some of his articles if you're not a subscriber (or paid subscriber) but its with that couple in mind that I post. Thank you for your kind words and have a nice night
My mom is 87 and got Covid along with 20 other seniors in her community going to the same doctors office. She had only a mild cough for 3 days and was fine. Never went to doctor. The other 20 were fine, no hospital and no hug symptoms. A 50 year old got it at the same doc's office and was bedbound for 3 weeks. It all depends. Not all over 65 need the vax. My humble opinion only.
I have little doubt that the shots reduce the number of severe cases for some time after they've been administered, but it's also clear that this benefit wanes fairly rapidly. However, the adverse effects of the shots are quite real, and some of them are deadly serious. So what we need to look at in the long run is all-cause mortality, comparing those who've taken them and with those who haven't, in matched cohorts of course. In order to do to be able to do that, we'll need a substantially sized control group of people who haven't taken the shots. I've volunteered to take one for the team and be part of that control group. ;)
India just hit 50% first shot, Mexico did sometime back. It is surreal that a few months out that US will have a big chunk of that control group. We are still well in the lead on Africa and Russia but the world at 6.53 billion is less a very few countries passing us by
Sorry, but using third-world countries as your control group makes it rather difficult to come up with well-matched cohorts if one wants to look at all-cause mortality, which is the only meaningful end-point to determine whether these vaccines are a net win.
Agree. I was commenting on how the US is amazingly behind. The right way to break out the data will be to normalize the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations and break into age ranges. Ironically Alex used Israel to show vaccines not working just 6 weeks back and then gave correct grief to Rachel Maddow for a bad projection 6 months back but Alex hasn't come back to tell you Israel now at 1.87% positive rate and 430 severely ill with 80% of them unvaccinated..go check, it is a click away.
UM Ross, thank you for the polite reply. At 6.5 billion shots, I believe the data is there from what I have looked at. Take a look at Brazil in March or Alabama/etc right now. Whatever you do, I wish you good health.
6.5 billion shots? How many of them are the same ones we're using here? AstraZeneca Sino-whatever, Sputnik, and others that aren't being used here are not comparable to the MRNA shots that are the overwhelming majority of the shots we're using here.
EU surprisingly to me is like US...just looked at our world in data and about 85% is MRNA. Look at the last 400 million and Pfizer alone is 300 million of them. It seems to be the vaccine of choice. Thanks for the question, I had no idea that was what that data looked like until you asked.
"Two things to look for on vaccine misinformation"
I can give you another one:
Anybody who doesn't realize that doctors often as gatekeepers of the data thereby skewing the statistics to make it look like vaccines work because they are far less inclined to test the vaccinated.
The above is, in fact, the single most important concept in epidemiology. Anybody who doesn't understand it cannot possibly know anything useful about epidemiology.
The above principle is precisely what the "double" in RDBPCT is for. If doctors (and patients) are not blinded as to the vaccine/treatment status of the patient then the data will be invalid.
You didn't know that did you Mike? Because you know nothing. How dumb must you be to come to this site and not even know the single most basic and critical point of epidemiology?
I'm mostly showing data on severe outcomes like hospitalizations and deaths. I tend to think that the vaccinated get tested less as well though I don't blame doctors. In the US, there was a push like the vax was 99% effective (which was people not normalizing data as well) that probably reduced some of vaxxed testing. Also, less symptoms means lower liklihood of being tested. Severe outcome is another matter. Hospitalization and deaths normalized to population and broke into age ranges is clean data and I look at raw data in many countries and states and see same pattern of order of magnitude benefit in severe outcome...and so will you if you randomize and just pick a place to look at raw data instead of cherrypicked narrative
"I tend to think that the vaccinated get tested less as well though I don't blame doctors."
They are the ones doing it in the hospitals - which is the data you are focusing on. This is the crux of the issue. In the outside world, doctors aren't acting as a gatekeeper in terms of which people are being tested so it is likely that the non-hospital data is more valid.
"In the US, there was a push like the vax was 99% effective (which was people not normalizing data as well) that probably reduced some of vaxxed testing."
Yes. Although most vaxed people are more scared of the disease so, ceteris paribus, more likely to get themselves tested. In short, we don't know, but it's actually possible that the vaxed are *more* likely to get tested than the unvaxed. It doesn't matter of course because we know from first principles that the vaccine does not work in the slightest. Any deviation from that in the data is purely because of biases in the data (one way or the other).
"Also, less symptoms means lower liklihood of being tested. Severe outcome is another matter."
It might be more important but it is *not* more valid! In hospitals, doctors are very much the gatekeeper which means that there will almost certainly be a huge bias in terms of testing the unvaxed. It will look like most serious cases are in the unvaxed regardless of whether that is true.
Of course, there is no virus in the first place anyway and most of the people are dying because of the treatments. It is also entirely possible that doctors are treating the unvaxed (who test "positive") worse with more dangerous treatments than they are the vaxed. Given most doctors are disgusting, precious, psychopaths who hate anybody who questions them this is quite likely and, again, will skew the data.
Now of course you will now retreat into shifting the burden of proof and say "you can't prove the data is bias!" But the burden is yours. It is your data if you think it should be trusted you need to defend it against any accusation of bias. If you can't then you have to withdraw it and find some other data.
It makes no difference to me of course. I'm a trillion times better at statistics than every epidemiologist on the planet (not exactly a high bar to be fair). But more importantly, I never came to my views on this through statistics.
That's the thing about medical statistics. The only people who value them are those that cannot possibly understand them.
Here's a question to ponder. Rats and fleas killed tens of millions of people in the 14th century during the Black Death right?
Ok. So what were these rats and fleas doing during the 13th century? The 15th century?
If you want to understand anything about medical statistics it's not a bad idea to start at the very beginning when it comes to our beliefs in "pandemics". You'll soon realize that not only has everything we have ever been taught been wrong, it's been obvious (but, alas, not obvious enough) lunacy.
Correct where I've misstated what.you said.....doctors are evil so all data is wrong on everything. I've worked data analysis flr.30 years and rarely have I had this good of a.signal to noise ratio from 300 different feeds over many months. I don't buy the all doctors are evil thing either though have no data. Do have a bias that people in general are decent and appreciate the neck out of what doctors and nurses/etc have been doing. Have worked 80 hour weeks myself and its not fun
Yes. You have a bias towards believing doctors because you've been brainwashed to worship them even when it's clear they're killing people.
I'll repeat. Doctors *believe* this vaccine works - rightly or wrongly. This belief of theirs causes them to make a different risk assessment in vaxed patients vs unvaxed patients (all else equal).
Therefore they are far more likely to test the unvaxed.
Therefore the data will show greater hospitalization rates from covid for the unvaxed *even if* the vaccine is worthless.
It's called logic. You having a cry about people who put in 80 hours of work a week or how you've looked at data before (apparently this makes you unique) doesn't change anything.
And no. People are not decent. The Milgram experiment showed (and it was repeated) that around 70% of people are utterly disgusting.
If the government told any of those 70% of people to rape children or engage in cannibalism they would.
That's not an exaggeration by the way.
And out of the two of us, who do you think is part of the 70% and who is part of the 30%?
Scroll down to the recover and die tab and it breaks it out by vaccination status. It shows order of magnitude. They show their numbers per 100k so it is normalized. That's why the hospitalization numbers are absolutely nuts to be that high unvaccinated. The booster working far better than I expected and Israel when they do something seem to move fast. If you look at older data before the booster and didn't normalize those numbers, I wouldn't be surprised if that was correct (I'd have to check what day). If vaccine is 90% effective, in a hypothetical world where 90% of the population is vaccinated, you'd get 0.9x0.1=0.09 and 0.1x0.9=0.09 ...so same number vaccinated as unvaccinated but your total having the issue would be 18% as high. Hit the site. It may be the best site out there though some of the state sites are putting good work in. Scroll bar is on the left and they let you flip between totals and normalized in some of their graphs with button clicks. If you want to take a look at another good site, WIsconsin DHS gives good breakdowns to age ranges and helpful visuals. Don't trust sites that go back to January....that skews the other way and makes it more effective than it is. Israel shows every day in a nice easy to read trend line. Wisconsin shows latest month. To see what is real, normalize to population and break into age ranges....it it highly age dependant. Also, if you ever see a site that allows breakout of previously infected let me know, I overestimated that impact and Florida levels caught me by surprise and without breakouts I don't know why. Thanks and sorry for the long note. You seem honestly interested in looking at data and there used to be a number of people on this site that were (and maybe there still are)
Imagine being so deranged that you actually think Israel proves the case for vaccination!
There are no statistics on unvaxed vs vaxed there because nobody there is ever actually fully vaxed. The moment the data shows the vaxed to be getting too sick, the government just changes the definition so that such people are all now unvaxed.
Now Mike, you're a complete imbecile so you won't know this, but in hospitals, doctors will often take into vaccination status (at least temporary vaccination status) when they decide if someone should have a covid test. Needless to say, this artificially makes the vaccine look as though it prevents hospitalizations - even if it doesn't.
The only valid data would be total hospitalization rates (all cause) between the various doses of vaccines people have gotten. Needless to say, the Israeli government won't be providing this data because it would almost certainly show that the vaccines have been an unmitigated catastrophe.
Did you look at the site? They do break out the booster data and show not 2 vax vs 2 vax vs booster on one of the main graphs for 60+....take 5 minutes take a look. That exact data you are looking for is one this site.....so look....just click and look. In less time than it took to write your paragraph, you could see the actual data. They update it 3 times a day....it's all right there...its laid out in a way that is pretty easy to understand. Data matter. Narrative corrupts...absolute narrative corrupts absolutely. The case rate is harder to keep track of and I don't actually trust the vax/unvaxxed split on case rate...the vaxxed have less symptoms so less likely to get tested. I agree with you and mostly focus on hospitalizations and deaths. Click on the link. Got to the source data...see for yourself not through my or Alexs lens.
None of the data is valid because we have no idea if vaxed people (however you want to define that) are being tested at the exact same rate (be they symptomatic/hospitalized/asymptomatic etc) as the unvaxed.
Worse still, in many cases they will categorize you as unvaxed if you only received the shot within the last two weeks.
"I agree with you and mostly focus on hospitalizations and deaths."
You don't agree with me. You didn't even understand what I said.
You're being obtuse because you're a pathological liar. All this nonsense about how you "were trying to convince a friend covid was being overcounted" is just that - nonsense.
I'll repeat it for you.
Unless we know with 100 per cent certainty that the vaxed are being tested at the same rate as the unvaxed, then we have zero valid data to make any comparisons. In the outside world, it is not unreasonable to think that the vaxed may well be being tested at roughly the same rate (potentially more) but in hospitals (which is the data that pro-vaxers are concentrating on) then it is highly likely that the unvaxed are being tested way way more.
It seems like your point is no data is real...all data can be ignored......... Oddly, I don't agree with that after doing data analysis for 30 years. I do agree it's harder to analyze total cases but that's why I focus on severe outcomes which aren't hard to analyze and wouldn't have that bias. Isn't this a data substack. I sense we might not agree and I three insults from one person who disrespects data in general is my limit for a long week.
Mate, you came here and accused Alex and the rest of us of lying for a narrative. Don't have a sook when people don't take to you that kindly.
"It seems like your point is no data is real...all data can be ignored"
Do you have any idea how stupid that line is?
No really. Just step back and think about how dumb it is. It's really quite impressive.
Would it be ok if *I* just made up some data? What about if I collect data that you know is hopelessly biased and "proved" that the vaccine caused the risk of contracting covid to increase by 200 per cent? Would you accept it on the basis that we have to accept *some* data?
There isn't some magical law that says that at any given point in time we must accept a minimum amount of data. If all the data is rubbish (and it is), then it all needs to be chucked out. That's just how it is.
It's easy to demonstrate the utter stupidity of your claim just by talking about astrology. Millions of pages (with data) have been written about astrology by people who believe in it. Do we have to accept it on the basis that we aren't allowed to ignore *all of it*?
I'll say again. If doctors aren't blinded as to whether someone has received a treatment then the ensuing data will be invalid and must be thrown out (at least in terms of evaluating the treatment). It doesn't matter if this sort of data is collected once or a trillion times, it's always invalid.
Epidemiology is the same as econometrics. It suffers a fatal flaw (self-fulfilling prophecies). Not all data driven fields suffer from this problem (at least not as much) but they do. That's why in both medicine and economics you have to come to your conclusions using first principles and direct observations.
About following the money .....The Moderna mRNA vaccine is a result of a partnership between Moderna and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) , and who is the Director of NIAID? The Fauch himself !! No quiwinkidink here!!
Fraudci and Bill Gates are laughing all the way to the bank while hundreds of thousands of people are either dead or dealing with the side effects of their junk vaccine. Just evil.
True, but remember it is not even a vaccine. It's a mRNA GA [Gene Altering] lethal injection aka silent weapons for quiet wars and quiet weapons for silent wars.
And the NIAID, or it's scientists, I'm not sure how it's assigned, gets 50% of the profits from the Moderna vaccine, from what I had heard a while ago.
If they repent not, it will, if not in this life, then surely in the next when they see God/Jesus who no man shall escape His final final judgment, where they will burn white hot for eternity in ineffable agony, gnashing of teeth, pain and suffering for what they caused to other men and women and children when they were on earth.
here's another one from Shakespeare: man o man dressed in brief authority, so sure of what he is most ignorant of, so as to make the angels weep (not exact words, you can look it up). essentially that is what we have. mini tyrants all dressed in brief authority. this includes, especially in places like my own country, Canada, the majority of the citizenry who have not read a single study, nor data but rely on CBC, our main news organization, funded by the corrupt government who has sold us out like slaves. the majority of our population is so "sure of what they do not know". they literally just repeat slogans spit out by CBC even if they are entirely preposterous on every level. facts do not matter. data does not matter. doctors who are whistleblowers are simply character assassinated. one amazing dr, dr francis christian was rounded up by the local health authorities and literally they sat him down and said "see francis, we really care about you, this is why we want you to get help, we have resources francis,for your mental health" . see, this is how they do it. its literally bile inducing.
Damn I wish I understood Shakespeare! It’s English, but I can only make out so much of it. I have a similar problem with Emerson. I consider myself pretty well educated, and have learned Russian & French, but Shakespeare often puts me on the mat… Ok, on the second read through I did better, but I’m still missing chunks. Thank you for that Phoebe!
It just boils down to: "In this life, rich people can get away with murder by greasing palms to cover everything up, but in Heaven nothing is hidden and we have to face and take responsiblity for all our crimes."
Yes, I pretty much got that on the second read. I’m just really impressed that you are fluent in Shakespeare. Dostoevsky & Camus in the original make a little more sense to me, on occasion, than Shakespeare. I suppos things could be worse.
I imagine if you made an inferior and dangerous product, were given immunity from all criminal and financial liability, had the government force it upon citizens as a condition of employment and the ability to participate in life, you too could join these men on Forbes list of richest Americans.
Trump has. He says the vaccine is saving the country and frankly the world and has warned you against deranged antivaccine pseudoscience. GOP has...every single doctor in GOP in Congress (19 of them) did a good PSA supporting the vaccine as safe and effective. The GOP can read and understand data...and we have well over 700k dead...so they support the vaccine. The GOP also has principles that support personal freedom and don't appreciate government overreach so they are against mandates. Defund the police should have cost Democrats the 2020 election but it didn't because some in GOP beat it with "covid isn't real". Some on the left probably want you to keep going....GOP causing vaccine hesitancy leading to more deaths and lockdowns is certainly a better talking point for Democrats than why we have bad inflation. Would it be crazy if it were like a Scooby Doo episode and you pulled off Alex Berensons mask and it was really Nancy Pelosi leading you sheep like to a 2022 loss.
I looked up Regeneron’s earnings for this year. They’re doing well, but nowhere near as well as Pfizer. Their product actually keeps people out of the hospital without subjecting them to horrible side effects.
That is absolutely untrue. Ochsner Health in Louisiana announced in August that they had given nearly 10,000 infusions to COVID sufferers, and only 28 of those people later required hospitalization. I have a friend who is alive today because his doctor referred him for monoclonal antibodies three days after his symptoms started. He is a walking comorbidity. I have another friend who was in much better shape who died of COVID because he thought ivermectin would save him. Ironically, this friend was a huge Trump supporter who clearly ignored the fact that Trump credited the infusion with his rapid recovery. I use ivermectin on my face (in the form of Soolantra) so I am familiar with its anti-inflammatory properties, but I'm not sure the average person knows the correct dose to take without consultation. My husband and I had COVID in early August. It was a cold for him. I ended up with pneumonia but recovered quickly. I wish I had gone for the infusion the first week instead of assuming I would be fine without it. I might be able to taste food and smell the flowers I grow now. As it stands, I don't know when those senses will return.
Suzy, the real world Ivermectin trials have had a lot of problems getting out to the public. The FLCCC.net is a good source, and gives protocols for it's use, they are not opposed to vaccinations. Dr. John Cambell is a British doctor that supports vaccines and took a long time to study IVM. Here is his latest youtube talk comparing IVM to molnupiravir. The part where I say the IVM has a much longer recorded use is true as molnupiravir is a brand new drug.
Tru, we have to be patient with those that got the jab. Many of them were scared, scared for their families, scared for their jobs. MSM can be very compelling. It is not the case for everyone who was vaxxed but when your doc tells you to do something and you trust them, sometimes bad decisions are made. Many do not have the time to be on forums like we are and doing the best they can. For those that got it to continue the narrative, well that is another story...
Wonder how many politicians and WEF acolytes have made enough F-you money on this pandemic to let the whole system burn down without a care in the world. Green climate stocks next!
You bet your ass that CLiMatE cHaNge will be the next emergency trauma inflicted on the first world. Lockdowns and surveillance that will make Covid look quaint.
The vax will have made them incapable of taking care of themselves, thus gummint their only option. And the $$$ rape of the unvaxxed to care for the sheeple.
every time I see young people riding their bikes or walking to school on their own WITH masks on, I cringe, knowing that this level of Orwellian obedience can only lead us to the erosion of civil liberties.
Already here. I believe these vaccines were made in conjunction with the climate change agenda. Thin the population. Wonder how many women and men are sterilized because of these vaccines. How many will develop catastrophic health issues down the road. I believe this is all tied to climate change.
Right and none of this will be apparent for a few more years for those close to child-bearing age. I just know deep down, when they start injecting infants, we are going to see the true evilness of what they are doing as they are too young to have a robust immune system but of course they’ll blame it on something else initially.
Pfizer applying for eua for 5-11. La city council now votes to barr the unvaccinated 12 and up from entering public places like shopping centers, movie theaters , restaurants and gyms. Someone help me make sense of this madness.
You’d think that would be enough to raise a red flag! But I must say, most people are either to busy to follow the news or have chosen not to because it’s so bad and mostly untruthful that they have no clue of what’s happening in the world. I used to be one of those people until I woke up and that was purely coincidental.
It really is! I’m just sick over it. With flu season not in full swing yet which is more deadly for children, I wonder how well they’ll be able to fight it after being vaccinated or next season when they have had multiple shots/boosters
Yes but you know there are parents waiting with joy to jab their kids!! Bc they think the virus is that deadly for their child . Now if the child is immune compromised , sure , parents assess risk and benefit but there is no benefit and only risk for healthy kids . And we already know this is going to be some kind of annual subscription . Load them up with peg carcinogens and lnp that cross the blood barrier ! I’m weeping and angry .
thousands of families with vax-injured kiddos have known this since 1986 when liability was removed from all vax manufacturers. This is not new. Perhaps the silver lining coming from this nightmare is that parents will wake up to the CDC/FDA corruption and the Big Pharma-CDC/FDA revolving door. Whatever happens, I do hope that Fraudci goes to jail.
worth reminding everyone that moderna was in financial trouble, with stephane bancel likely misleading investors, until COVID hit. thank God for answered prayers, amirite
You know, that they know, they've hit the jackpot when "gun violence" gets almost no coverage in the leftist medai. Once the precedent is set, that a president can issue edicts with the force of law, all other socialist-agenda items will be a cake walk.
If you’re a miserable lying cheating scumbag, you’re still a miserable lying cheating scumbag even if you have money. Tough way to live. Money isn’t everything. It’s not even much at the end of the day. Family, God, self respect and a good night’s sleep are way more important.
These 6 words explain the US COVID vaccine policy better than the millions of contradictory words that have poured forth on a daily basis from our public health officials.
Why is it that a shot that is known to cause heart issues in the very young is being forced on the youth? Is this not criminal? (Rhetorical I know) what is the term for an authority wanting to cause great harm on the populace?
In a sane world, and we left that behind years or decades ago, this “product” would have been withdrawn. Lotta intestinal fortitude on the corporations to request 5 to 11 year olds be subjected to it. People discuss medical and religious exemptions. We are beyond that. This is assault and battery.
Oh, and where are the fearless government types proposing and introducing legislation to repeal the 1986 liability free drug maker Act. Not a peep. Never even mentioned. I wonder why that is?
Exactly. Kinda why Hunter Biden is a more honest artist than Andy Warhol. At least Biden does his own crappy art instead of hiring art students to paint them and then signing them as Warhols. But you need X-band radar to tell which of each is lower than the other.
Do you really believe that Hunter is actually doing that crappy art? I think there's some "starving" artist out there being paid well for his/her ugly art and to keep they're mouth shut about it...eventually they'll "tie-up loose ends" on this money laundering deal, but for now Hunter is signing his name to some other poor dumbass's art...Hunter has no skills, even this crappy art requires more effort than he can muster up.
CEO Moderna said in 2017 that mRNA vaccine technology had too many side effects to enable a vaccine to be produced (from Unreported Truths). This guy is a con artist extraordinaire!
If anyone wonders,why the relentless push to vaccinate children?Because the liability immunity for the emergency authorization ends at the end of this year.Pfizer and Moderna have a lot of product they need to move by year end…
Glad to hear their immunity against liability expires at the end of this year. I thought it was forever. Looks like their legal immunity far outlasted their vaccines' immunity.
Yes,the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in current use are those approved under an emergency use protocol which expires at year’s end.Neither of these products is FDA approved.The product for which Pfizer received FDA approval is a ‘new’ vaccine called Comirnaty,which is not yet available in the US.So,if you receive a Covid vaccine before years end,it will be one of the emergency use authorized products for which the manufacturerers have immunity from liability lawsuits…
imagine if each person who had an adverse event or died....was compensated. there is, however, no compensation for the loss of a life. i dont care how much money you throw at someones family. dont forget they knew this. they were warned. they were warned by many involved early on. Dr. Robert Malone warned them. Geert van den boesch warned them. Dr Yeadon warned them. just to name a few. greatest crimes to ever occur against humanity.
speaking of making money....i would love to see the money trail that leads to justin trudeau. in canada he announced last evening that as of oct 30th you cannot LEAVE canada via airplane or train without up to date inoculations. which we all know is soon to be three. justin signed contracts with pfizer through 2025.
Wait, I thought NIH director Collins just said, "I don't hear any of them say this is a money maker", "nobody sees this as a way to make billions of dollars"
And Pfizer on track to make $33B revenue this year.
Or at least the first sortie. Prepare for the next scam, which will do even more damage and bring in even more money. Once you have the suckers primed, they keep spending to avoid letting on to themselves that they've been scammed.
"Imagine how rich they’d be if the vaccine actually worked" ... Alex! If the vaccine actually provided durable immunity, there would be no need for boosters!
And THAT WOULD BE BAD!
Its called "planned obsolescence." You think of it as a bug - but it is actually a feature - ESPECIALLY when you can get the government to mandate the planned-obsolescent-product.
I read somewhere that the Moderna vaccine was announced TWO DAYS after the Covid-19 DNA structure (not sure that that’s the right way to describe it!) was made available.
If it is true, that’s either a miracle or someone had a “head-start”…
Rumor has it they applied for the vaccine patent years before....it boils down for the old saying, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" I'll go out on a limb and say, the virus was released after they developed the "vaccine" because the money is in the vaccine....and now Merack (sp?) the maker of ivermectin is developing a medication with a 700% markup over ivermectin....guessing it's ivermectin using a new name. The lust for big $$$ is unstoppable....
I really wish these vax companies would be HONEST with us and stop trying to hide the potential complications associated with their “medications.” I feel like collateral damage.
Thanks for all the posts. I am so glad I am not alone in this. For a long time, I thought there was something wrong with me for not wanting to get the vaccine. I am so glad that I found all of you!
Luella, I am for whatever a person decides for themselves, for vax or not. They need to have informed consent which has not been happening. This in itself is a sin. Once you know risk/reward or pros/cons, one make make their own decision without mandates or coercion. But you are definitely not alone. There are a few dissenters on here but that is ok. We need to welcome them so we do not emulate what the so called elites are doing to us. Open discourse, polite conversation and ok to agree to disagree.
This is nothing compared to what Atheist Fauci , has made with the CCP ,Pharmaceutical , Disney ,Locked downs ,Face Masks mandates and many more i am certain that i have missed a few . And the woke Military is looking for Domestic terrorist and Fauci , Collins and Daszak doesn't seem to meet this definition . Even has someone who was kicked out of school a window in the 3rd grade by a bully and never went back knows that Fauci ,Collins and Daszak , fits the domestic terrorist their names are in every description of terrorist . And seeing that their is more cases deaths than 1 year ago why is the media not covering this and why was we sold something that is proven not to be true . We was promised less cases Hospitalization's mortality and the cases are harder to diagnose care time than before and Vaccine trials was in anyone's arm . You think that seeing none of these Vaccines trials communicate with or work with the brain has anything to do with this Bio weapon that Fauci and Collins have made . You would think CNN Anderson's Pooper Scooper , Chis Cuomo would be all over this instead they are covering everything up as Resident Muppet , pushing more Vaccine trial like a rock into Hunter Biden , crack pipe . And the woke military are looking for Karen the Domestic terrorist . And we have how many worldwide dead because of these 2 evil people .
Truly disgusting. Was the COVID-19 vaccine a hail Mary for Moderna? Weren't they tanking financially before the pandemic turned their fortunes around? Does anyone know?
Imagine how poor they'd be if they were actually liable for damages caused by their pseudo vaccine.
There is truth to what you state if they were actually liable for every single damage. There is a vaccine damages court in the USA (I forget the correct name of it) and if i could post an image here, i would post an image that shows how Pfizer has already paid out billions through this court for damages by injections etc, and i can't remember right now exactly, but the reason why it is not well known among the great public is because of the wealth-power such major corporations have to suppress such info and to make the receivers of the monetary compensation sign a NDA etc. They are that immensely wealthy that they can pay out billions, and still have billions left over with their upper echelon satanic business. Robert Kennedy Junior really does a good explanation of it.
The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, which has paid out $4 billion in damages since 1986 through the US Court of Claims. (And it is extremely difficult to prove a claim with this court.)
https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html
Pfizer has the distinction of paying the largest total of criminal fines in US history, for felonies, also in the billions. All of this should have been common knowledge to all Americans before even one uninformed person rolled up the sleeve.
and 4 billion is nothing when you have maimed someone's child or caused death.
4 billion since 86 for the industry is peanuts if the math was applied is my guess
The payments are made from a tax that we the people pay when we get a vaccine. While it is noted that the vaccine company made the damaging vaccine they don’t pay anything
It was about time someone posted this little known fact -- it is WE THE PEOPLE that are paying for any awards -- if or when awarded. Complete and total collapse of all things ethical and just for the majority of the people while a select tiny group grow wealthier and wealthier. All criminals across the board in all major sectors and institutions of our society. We must fight back.
When people bleat on about Communism and/or Socialism (do they really understand the difference?) they never seem to think about things like this. For the ultra wealthy, profits are always capitalist in nature, their debts are always collectivized among the poor.
Indeed, we are the debt thralls. Your last three sentences are especially on point.
Exactly what I have heard as well...its "we the people" who pay for things on front, middle and back ends. Such a rigged scheme
Thank you Colleen for that, yea, that's the name i couldn't remember at the time of typing. I appreciate you refreshing my memory on these so important things.
Didn't GSK one-up Pfizer in 2012 or was the criminal fine, in particular, just larger?
Interesting if so.
RFK has a book coming out on November 9th. Let’s make it #1 best seller so NYT can’t ignore it. It’s called The Real Anthony Fauci.
Peter Breggin MD also has one out with 1000+ citations on all the global fraud that this scamdemic has perpetuated. Intro's by Zelenko and McCullough as well.
https://breggin.com/coronavirus-resource-center/
I got a copy of the draft pdf for prepurchasing in August and it's a wow. Looking forward to the RFK one soon. (No - I don't get any compensation for the plug)
Just crazy to think these mongers are never held to account!
We already see him for what he is and in time I pray his reputation is ruined and he is run out of the country.
What do you mean exactly?
I mean Fauci...
Oh ok, thanks Laura.
David Martins 217 page dossier on Fauci is good as well as Judy Mikovits stories of Fauci when she worked with him in the 80's. I assume there is more to come with JFK's investigation too
If only!!
such an accurate take!
15 boosters to flatten the curve .... 'cause we're all in this together.
omg--can we please make that a bumper sticker!
Good idea, it will fit nicely between mines: “Fauci for prison” and “If you cannot question it, it’s not science, it’s propaganda”.
I love this!!! "If you cannot question it, it’s not science, it’s propaganda”.
Love it!
A t-shirt like that sure would get attention.
I need royalties ...
even better idea!
T-shirts that say 15 boosters With a picture of person who has spike proteins all over their body/skin so that they can barely walk because of being weighed down by them. Sort of Funny in a sadistic way, as sadistic as the entire matter has become!😫😂
great idea, i would get one asap.
lol
Well played. Very well played! This really made me laugh.
15 boosters. LOL
They Need FLATTENED!
https://www.gov.il/en/departments/guides/information-corona?chapterIndex=1 For those on this site that aren't completely captured by narrative, take a look at the data out of Israel....guessing Alex will lock out his Israel posts to paid subscribers for a while. They are at 2.3% positive rate and an amazing 83% of their severe cases are in unvaccinated. Their are easy to follow since they enable Hebrew to English translations with a buttons now...wonder if it was because some people were misrepresenting their raw data...so I guess maybe you caused one good thing Alex. The world will hit 6.5 billion and US will hit 400 million covid shots Saturday both on Saturday. We should easily be at 550 million. Two things to look for on vaccine misinformation...Nirvana fallacy (if something isn't perfect, it isn't good). SImpsons paradox (example going into a population that is 95% vaxxed and saying "look it's not working, half of cases are vaccinated" and then not mentioning population. I can show vaccine efficiency against severe outcome is order o magnitude by normalizing the populations and breaking into age ranges....and can do it on countries or states people randomly name....because it's data.
With all due respect, no one will rid this virus by vaccination, mask or isolation. Mother Nature will make sure of that. I respect your stance and right to cite what you have, but I do not trust these vax or the powers behind them. You will not change my mind. Please stay healthy and happy.
What really worries me besides the awful near term side effects among just the people I know personally (never mind stats on large populations), are the long range effects of putting viral mRNA in every organ of the body including the brain. The near term side effects are bad enough. But what happens in a few years to those in whom the lipid coated mRNA particles (Pfizer, Moderna) crossed into the brain? Or into the ovaries or testes? No way would I subject myself to that risk, nor anyone I care about.
Good for you Zade, stand by your convictions. We are all worried about long term issues like auto immune dz but at that point the medical community will say it has nothing to do with the vax. They have come so far that to come out and say they are wrong, they will not do. The corrupt will continue to hide behind their lies. Hold on, it is going to be a bumpy ride.
I really hope the optimists like Mike here are correct. In fact I have a two pronged prayer: that I'm wrong and they're right, OR that God will give everyone's body the vigor to completely destroy the LNP of mRNA and DNA before they get anywhere but a few muscle fibers. I hope Yeadon is flat wrong. But I'm sorry that people in my family took the shots, and will never take them. Ever. Even if there are no ill consequences, they're made using cell lines from slaughtered babies. That's evil enough.
Stay healthy and happy as well. SIngapore sure tried but when Delta came they realized that getting to zero was not possible so they spend a month getting their already high vaccination rate higher and opened up in August. They have cases but their high vaccination rates kept them from many severe outcomes. Long term lockdowns are unhealthy in many ways. High vax rates reduce severe outcomes by order of magnitude. Masks are a limp along until we get higher vax rates. Also, we'll keep on improving treatments. The Principle trial should be over in December from UK and they have 6 interesting ones in the trial (including Ivermectin, was disappointed with Brazil results in August but certainly looked interesting in smaller studies). I have faith in God/family/and friends. Outside of that, I don't trust narrative, I trust raw data. Heaps and heaps or raw data looked at 20 different ways and always challenged. Open the Israel site or the Wisconsin site...I shouldn't change you mind but raw data should.
I also follow my gut instincts, they have never steered me wrong. Stats can be changed and manipulated. 3 friends have used Ivermec w/in 2 days of infection 3 and 4 months ago and recovered quickly with no hospital needed. I have Ivermec just in case. If you love this vax, that is certainly your choice and more power to you but as for me, no way. If nothing else made me skeptical, forced mandates have. The more they mandate, the more dug in heels they will get. When you force something down peoples' throats, all they do is vomit it up..... thank you for the courteous exchange of dialogue.
Thank you as well. It is very hard to prove a treatment and when something is not statistically proven, it does not mean that it is disproved. We pick a p<0.05 to establish confidence. I saw an Ivermectin study with a p=0.19 which I consider good. Had expected the Brazil study in August to give the sample size to allow it proven and it did not but hopefully the Principle study in UK will in December. In Ivermectin's previous dose usages it appeared to have a good safety profile and 3.7 billion human uses (which doesn't match covid vaccines 6.5 billion but few things do). It is inexpensive in most places. I have high hopes (please check with your doctor since I have no clue if someone is pushing crazy dosing and I am not a doctor). Stats can be manipulated. Berenson does that with something called SImpsons paradox where he will go into a 95% population and say "look this went up". Or look at Uttar Pradesh who used Ivermectin (without mentioning they will pass us in first vaccine dose % soon...and I don't know how to break that out)...expect him to go into Singapore because they recently opened up so their cases will go up...but to focus on the cases not the hospitalizations. If he's still around doing this next year, he'll do in US what he has done in highly vaxxed countries and people will believe him because they heard the 99% severe being unvaccinated (real but not normalized the other way). I believe hugely in personal freedoms and don't support mandates or censorship. Having that belief and seeing misinformation I feel an obligation to post actual data and context. Have a great night and whatever you do, I hope you have a healthy and happy year.
Know my dosing is good, have a functional doc since my regular doc drank the kool aid! Plus I am in the medical field and can figure out my own dosages! Yay Ivermec!!!! Personal freedoms rock...I wish every citizen of the world could know what it is like to have them.
"For those on this site that aren't completely captured by narrative"
That's amusing. You can't remember any point in your life before you believed in vaccines can you?
You have believed in them ever since your parents and kindergarten teacher told you to.
You've never once stopped to verify any of the claims made by those who are pro-vaccine you just assumed they were unassailable.
For example, when you were told that the rubella vaccine prevented millions of cases of congenital defects, did you ever bother to check to see if congenital defect rates had actually fallen?
When you were told that because of the polio vaccine, most paralysis cases disappeared, did you bother to check the data for total rates of paralysis?
When you were told that the Hepatitis B vaccine would reduce people's chances of developing liver cancer, did you bother to check if liver cancer did indeed fall?
If you want your heart to sink to somewhere around the bottom of the Mariana trench, I would suggest looking for this data.
I am generally provaccine and haven't looked at much data besides covid vaccine data. I try not to comment on items that I haven't researched. Actually got into this with intent to prove to friend that covid was being overcounted by looking at total death data.....but surprise...when I dug in the data I saw that wasn't the case and my view changed to match the data I was seeing...which is what people are supposed to do that aren't captured by narrative.
It is great we are not all clones, imagine how boring the discourse would be. Appreciate your candidness Mike, especially since you have a tough road on this thread. Both sides are passionate and perhaps the goal should not be conversion, but conversation. Have a good night!
Agreed. The beautiful thing that exists in data analysis that doesn't in many other areas is that the answer is in accurately assessed data. I cringe when I see articles pushing that they need to get the vaccine rate in the under 30 up to what it is in 65+ group....I'm looking at the data and not against lower age vaccination but want a strong message out to older people who haven't had coronavirus before that they are in the bullseye. Alex posted in article in January about how a ton of vaccinated people died after vaccine in (I believe Norway nursing home..long week). There is an 80 year old couple that still hasn't vaxxed because of that. I just saw an older couple thank Alex on a post for warning them about the vaccine a few days back. He restricts posting on some of his articles if you're not a subscriber (or paid subscriber) but its with that couple in mind that I post. Thank you for your kind words and have a nice night
My mom is 87 and got Covid along with 20 other seniors in her community going to the same doctors office. She had only a mild cough for 3 days and was fine. Never went to doctor. The other 20 were fine, no hospital and no hug symptoms. A 50 year old got it at the same doc's office and was bedbound for 3 weeks. It all depends. Not all over 65 need the vax. My humble opinion only.
I have little doubt that the shots reduce the number of severe cases for some time after they've been administered, but it's also clear that this benefit wanes fairly rapidly. However, the adverse effects of the shots are quite real, and some of them are deadly serious. So what we need to look at in the long run is all-cause mortality, comparing those who've taken them and with those who haven't, in matched cohorts of course. In order to do to be able to do that, we'll need a substantially sized control group of people who haven't taken the shots. I've volunteered to take one for the team and be part of that control group. ;)
India just hit 50% first shot, Mexico did sometime back. It is surreal that a few months out that US will have a big chunk of that control group. We are still well in the lead on Africa and Russia but the world at 6.53 billion is less a very few countries passing us by
Sorry, but using third-world countries as your control group makes it rather difficult to come up with well-matched cohorts if one wants to look at all-cause mortality, which is the only meaningful end-point to determine whether these vaccines are a net win.
Agree. I was commenting on how the US is amazingly behind. The right way to break out the data will be to normalize the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations and break into age ranges. Ironically Alex used Israel to show vaccines not working just 6 weeks back and then gave correct grief to Rachel Maddow for a bad projection 6 months back but Alex hasn't come back to tell you Israel now at 1.87% positive rate and 430 severely ill with 80% of them unvaccinated..go check, it is a click away.
UM Ross, thank you for the polite reply. At 6.5 billion shots, I believe the data is there from what I have looked at. Take a look at Brazil in March or Alabama/etc right now. Whatever you do, I wish you good health.
6.5 billion shots? How many of them are the same ones we're using here? AstraZeneca Sino-whatever, Sputnik, and others that aren't being used here are not comparable to the MRNA shots that are the overwhelming majority of the shots we're using here.
EU surprisingly to me is like US...just looked at our world in data and about 85% is MRNA. Look at the last 400 million and Pfizer alone is 300 million of them. It seems to be the vaccine of choice. Thanks for the question, I had no idea that was what that data looked like until you asked.
Still a far cry from your 6.5 billion. ;)
me too.
Me too!!
I recommend that you read "Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries MD , Roman Bystrianyk
"Two things to look for on vaccine misinformation"
I can give you another one:
Anybody who doesn't realize that doctors often as gatekeepers of the data thereby skewing the statistics to make it look like vaccines work because they are far less inclined to test the vaccinated.
The above is, in fact, the single most important concept in epidemiology. Anybody who doesn't understand it cannot possibly know anything useful about epidemiology.
The above principle is precisely what the "double" in RDBPCT is for. If doctors (and patients) are not blinded as to the vaccine/treatment status of the patient then the data will be invalid.
You didn't know that did you Mike? Because you know nothing. How dumb must you be to come to this site and not even know the single most basic and critical point of epidemiology?
I'm mostly showing data on severe outcomes like hospitalizations and deaths. I tend to think that the vaccinated get tested less as well though I don't blame doctors. In the US, there was a push like the vax was 99% effective (which was people not normalizing data as well) that probably reduced some of vaxxed testing. Also, less symptoms means lower liklihood of being tested. Severe outcome is another matter. Hospitalization and deaths normalized to population and broke into age ranges is clean data and I look at raw data in many countries and states and see same pattern of order of magnitude benefit in severe outcome...and so will you if you randomize and just pick a place to look at raw data instead of cherrypicked narrative
"I tend to think that the vaccinated get tested less as well though I don't blame doctors."
They are the ones doing it in the hospitals - which is the data you are focusing on. This is the crux of the issue. In the outside world, doctors aren't acting as a gatekeeper in terms of which people are being tested so it is likely that the non-hospital data is more valid.
"In the US, there was a push like the vax was 99% effective (which was people not normalizing data as well) that probably reduced some of vaxxed testing."
Yes. Although most vaxed people are more scared of the disease so, ceteris paribus, more likely to get themselves tested. In short, we don't know, but it's actually possible that the vaxed are *more* likely to get tested than the unvaxed. It doesn't matter of course because we know from first principles that the vaccine does not work in the slightest. Any deviation from that in the data is purely because of biases in the data (one way or the other).
"Also, less symptoms means lower liklihood of being tested. Severe outcome is another matter."
It might be more important but it is *not* more valid! In hospitals, doctors are very much the gatekeeper which means that there will almost certainly be a huge bias in terms of testing the unvaxed. It will look like most serious cases are in the unvaxed regardless of whether that is true.
Of course, there is no virus in the first place anyway and most of the people are dying because of the treatments. It is also entirely possible that doctors are treating the unvaxed (who test "positive") worse with more dangerous treatments than they are the vaxed. Given most doctors are disgusting, precious, psychopaths who hate anybody who questions them this is quite likely and, again, will skew the data.
Now of course you will now retreat into shifting the burden of proof and say "you can't prove the data is bias!" But the burden is yours. It is your data if you think it should be trusted you need to defend it against any accusation of bias. If you can't then you have to withdraw it and find some other data.
It makes no difference to me of course. I'm a trillion times better at statistics than every epidemiologist on the planet (not exactly a high bar to be fair). But more importantly, I never came to my views on this through statistics.
That's the thing about medical statistics. The only people who value them are those that cannot possibly understand them.
Here's a question to ponder. Rats and fleas killed tens of millions of people in the 14th century during the Black Death right?
Ok. So what were these rats and fleas doing during the 13th century? The 15th century?
If you want to understand anything about medical statistics it's not a bad idea to start at the very beginning when it comes to our beliefs in "pandemics". You'll soon realize that not only has everything we have ever been taught been wrong, it's been obvious (but, alas, not obvious enough) lunacy.
Correct where I've misstated what.you said.....doctors are evil so all data is wrong on everything. I've worked data analysis flr.30 years and rarely have I had this good of a.signal to noise ratio from 300 different feeds over many months. I don't buy the all doctors are evil thing either though have no data. Do have a bias that people in general are decent and appreciate the neck out of what doctors and nurses/etc have been doing. Have worked 80 hour weeks myself and its not fun
Yes. You have a bias towards believing doctors because you've been brainwashed to worship them even when it's clear they're killing people.
I'll repeat. Doctors *believe* this vaccine works - rightly or wrongly. This belief of theirs causes them to make a different risk assessment in vaxed patients vs unvaxed patients (all else equal).
Therefore they are far more likely to test the unvaxed.
Therefore the data will show greater hospitalization rates from covid for the unvaxed *even if* the vaccine is worthless.
It's called logic. You having a cry about people who put in 80 hours of work a week or how you've looked at data before (apparently this makes you unique) doesn't change anything.
And no. People are not decent. The Milgram experiment showed (and it was repeated) that around 70% of people are utterly disgusting.
If the government told any of those 70% of people to rape children or engage in cannibalism they would.
That's not an exaggeration by the way.
And out of the two of us, who do you think is part of the 70% and who is part of the 30%?
I heard 63% dying are vaccinated. 27% unvaxed. Vaccinated are dying more while hospitalized numbers are greater among the unvaxed?
Scroll down to the recover and die tab and it breaks it out by vaccination status. It shows order of magnitude. They show their numbers per 100k so it is normalized. That's why the hospitalization numbers are absolutely nuts to be that high unvaccinated. The booster working far better than I expected and Israel when they do something seem to move fast. If you look at older data before the booster and didn't normalize those numbers, I wouldn't be surprised if that was correct (I'd have to check what day). If vaccine is 90% effective, in a hypothetical world where 90% of the population is vaccinated, you'd get 0.9x0.1=0.09 and 0.1x0.9=0.09 ...so same number vaccinated as unvaccinated but your total having the issue would be 18% as high. Hit the site. It may be the best site out there though some of the state sites are putting good work in. Scroll bar is on the left and they let you flip between totals and normalized in some of their graphs with button clicks. If you want to take a look at another good site, WIsconsin DHS gives good breakdowns to age ranges and helpful visuals. Don't trust sites that go back to January....that skews the other way and makes it more effective than it is. Israel shows every day in a nice easy to read trend line. Wisconsin shows latest month. To see what is real, normalize to population and break into age ranges....it it highly age dependant. Also, if you ever see a site that allows breakout of previously infected let me know, I overestimated that impact and Florida levels caught me by surprise and without breakouts I don't know why. Thanks and sorry for the long note. You seem honestly interested in looking at data and there used to be a number of people on this site that were (and maybe there still are)
Imagine being so deranged that you actually think Israel proves the case for vaccination!
There are no statistics on unvaxed vs vaxed there because nobody there is ever actually fully vaxed. The moment the data shows the vaxed to be getting too sick, the government just changes the definition so that such people are all now unvaxed.
Now Mike, you're a complete imbecile so you won't know this, but in hospitals, doctors will often take into vaccination status (at least temporary vaccination status) when they decide if someone should have a covid test. Needless to say, this artificially makes the vaccine look as though it prevents hospitalizations - even if it doesn't.
The only valid data would be total hospitalization rates (all cause) between the various doses of vaccines people have gotten. Needless to say, the Israeli government won't be providing this data because it would almost certainly show that the vaccines have been an unmitigated catastrophe.
Did you look at the site? They do break out the booster data and show not 2 vax vs 2 vax vs booster on one of the main graphs for 60+....take 5 minutes take a look. That exact data you are looking for is one this site.....so look....just click and look. In less time than it took to write your paragraph, you could see the actual data. They update it 3 times a day....it's all right there...its laid out in a way that is pretty easy to understand. Data matter. Narrative corrupts...absolute narrative corrupts absolutely. The case rate is harder to keep track of and I don't actually trust the vax/unvaxxed split on case rate...the vaxxed have less symptoms so less likely to get tested. I agree with you and mostly focus on hospitalizations and deaths. Click on the link. Got to the source data...see for yourself not through my or Alexs lens.
did you not read what I wrote?
None of the data is valid because we have no idea if vaxed people (however you want to define that) are being tested at the exact same rate (be they symptomatic/hospitalized/asymptomatic etc) as the unvaxed.
Worse still, in many cases they will categorize you as unvaxed if you only received the shot within the last two weeks.
"I agree with you and mostly focus on hospitalizations and deaths."
You don't agree with me. You didn't even understand what I said.
You're being obtuse because you're a pathological liar. All this nonsense about how you "were trying to convince a friend covid was being overcounted" is just that - nonsense.
I'll repeat it for you.
Unless we know with 100 per cent certainty that the vaxed are being tested at the same rate as the unvaxed, then we have zero valid data to make any comparisons. In the outside world, it is not unreasonable to think that the vaxed may well be being tested at roughly the same rate (potentially more) but in hospitals (which is the data that pro-vaxers are concentrating on) then it is highly likely that the unvaxed are being tested way way more.
It seems like your point is no data is real...all data can be ignored......... Oddly, I don't agree with that after doing data analysis for 30 years. I do agree it's harder to analyze total cases but that's why I focus on severe outcomes which aren't hard to analyze and wouldn't have that bias. Isn't this a data substack. I sense we might not agree and I three insults from one person who disrespects data in general is my limit for a long week.
Mate, you came here and accused Alex and the rest of us of lying for a narrative. Don't have a sook when people don't take to you that kindly.
"It seems like your point is no data is real...all data can be ignored"
Do you have any idea how stupid that line is?
No really. Just step back and think about how dumb it is. It's really quite impressive.
Would it be ok if *I* just made up some data? What about if I collect data that you know is hopelessly biased and "proved" that the vaccine caused the risk of contracting covid to increase by 200 per cent? Would you accept it on the basis that we have to accept *some* data?
There isn't some magical law that says that at any given point in time we must accept a minimum amount of data. If all the data is rubbish (and it is), then it all needs to be chucked out. That's just how it is.
It's easy to demonstrate the utter stupidity of your claim just by talking about astrology. Millions of pages (with data) have been written about astrology by people who believe in it. Do we have to accept it on the basis that we aren't allowed to ignore *all of it*?
I'll say again. If doctors aren't blinded as to whether someone has received a treatment then the ensuing data will be invalid and must be thrown out (at least in terms of evaluating the treatment). It doesn't matter if this sort of data is collected once or a trillion times, it's always invalid.
Epidemiology is the same as econometrics. It suffers a fatal flaw (self-fulfilling prophecies). Not all data driven fields suffer from this problem (at least not as much) but they do. That's why in both medicine and economics you have to come to your conclusions using first principles and direct observations.
LOL!
Justice will be served to those that participated in these horrific crimes against humanity. I pray it is soon.
About following the money .....The Moderna mRNA vaccine is a result of a partnership between Moderna and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) , and who is the Director of NIAID? The Fauch himself !! No quiwinkidink here!!
Fraudci and Bill Gates are laughing all the way to the bank while hundreds of thousands of people are either dead or dealing with the side effects of their junk vaccine. Just evil.
True, but remember it is not even a vaccine. It's a mRNA GA [Gene Altering] lethal injection aka silent weapons for quiet wars and quiet weapons for silent wars.
true, in the original definition of a vax, it most certainly is not. the powers that be just changed the definition of vaccine so we buy into this.
We all must buy RFK Jr.’s book, coming out Nov 9: The Real Anthony Fauci.
Fauci, a real piece of work he is.
And the NIAID, or it's scientists, I'm not sure how it's assigned, gets 50% of the profits from the Moderna vaccine, from what I had heard a while ago.
If that is so.. man... the spiritually sin sick lust/"love" of mammon.
I've decided there's regular flu every Fall and Spring, and then there's Fauci's Flu. I've stopped calling it SARS-2 or Covid.
love it!
I've read that Moderna was working with DARPA for years before they were announced in the public
May i ask if you have any reliable links for that, because that type of detail is interesting indeed., thanks.
I haven't spent a lot of time looking into the veracity of this data. It was something I saw a while back and I'm looking into so many things, I made a note of it and figured it's par for the course. Here is the source I had: https://seekingalpha.com/news/3609955-moderna-failed-to-disclose-government-grants-funded-development-of-patented-vaccines-advocacy
There is also this article which isn't directly tied to the current vaccine but ties to curing corona virus and research from DARPA: https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/military-unveils-next-stage-of-covid-vaccines-on-60-minutes-implantable-microchips/
If they repent not, it will, if not in this life, then surely in the next when they see God/Jesus who no man shall escape His final final judgment, where they will burn white hot for eternity in ineffable agony, gnashing of teeth, pain and suffering for what they caused to other men and women and children when they were on earth.
Amen
What a user-name in light of the times :]
I doubt it. justice always works only against the little people
Claudius addresses this matter in Act 3 of "Hamlet":
"In the corrupted currents of this world
Offence's gilded hand may shove by justice,
And oft 'tis seen the wicked prize itself
Buys out the law: but 'tis not so above;
There is no shuffling, there the action lies
In his true nature; and we ourselves compell'd,
Even to the teeth and forehead of our faults,
To give in evidence."
here's another one from Shakespeare: man o man dressed in brief authority, so sure of what he is most ignorant of, so as to make the angels weep (not exact words, you can look it up). essentially that is what we have. mini tyrants all dressed in brief authority. this includes, especially in places like my own country, Canada, the majority of the citizenry who have not read a single study, nor data but rely on CBC, our main news organization, funded by the corrupt government who has sold us out like slaves. the majority of our population is so "sure of what they do not know". they literally just repeat slogans spit out by CBC even if they are entirely preposterous on every level. facts do not matter. data does not matter. doctors who are whistleblowers are simply character assassinated. one amazing dr, dr francis christian was rounded up by the local health authorities and literally they sat him down and said "see francis, we really care about you, this is why we want you to get help, we have resources francis,for your mental health" . see, this is how they do it. its literally bile inducing.
Sounds like the old Soviet Union. Dissidents who weren't sent to the gulag or executed were sent to mental hospitals.
Measure for Measure is one of my favorite plays, along with Hamlet.
Oi Vey, I would have said to them, don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining.
Damn I wish I understood Shakespeare! It’s English, but I can only make out so much of it. I have a similar problem with Emerson. I consider myself pretty well educated, and have learned Russian & French, but Shakespeare often puts me on the mat… Ok, on the second read through I did better, but I’m still missing chunks. Thank you for that Phoebe!
It just boils down to: "In this life, rich people can get away with murder by greasing palms to cover everything up, but in Heaven nothing is hidden and we have to face and take responsiblity for all our crimes."
Yes, I pretty much got that on the second read. I’m just really impressed that you are fluent in Shakespeare. Dostoevsky & Camus in the original make a little more sense to me, on occasion, than Shakespeare. I suppos things could be worse.
Shakespeare is more attainable, at least for me, when I see the play. It truly is soul touching.
Yes please pray for justice!
The meek shall inherit the earth
Thank you for this reminder!!
Al, you may find as things go on, you start....
They don't need for the vaccines to work. They just need to release a drug to treat the vaccine-induced cancers and injuries - cash flow to infinity.
Big Pharma never cures anything; they just set the stage for future revenues and profits!!
Well stated.
I imagine if you made an inferior and dangerous product, were given immunity from all criminal and financial liability, had the government force it upon citizens as a condition of employment and the ability to participate in life, you too could join these men on Forbes list of richest Americans.
Where are our Republican leaders? (Ron Johnson excepted) Rhetorical question again. They’re too afraid of the mainstream media.
Newsflash to the Republican leaders: THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HATES YOU, AND WILL NEVER COVER YOU FAIRLY, SO GET OVER IT AND DO YOUR JOBS!
So grow a pair and join Ron Johnson in getting the truth out!
yep he is the only one even partly approaching the truths...
Trump has. He says the vaccine is saving the country and frankly the world and has warned you against deranged antivaccine pseudoscience. GOP has...every single doctor in GOP in Congress (19 of them) did a good PSA supporting the vaccine as safe and effective. The GOP can read and understand data...and we have well over 700k dead...so they support the vaccine. The GOP also has principles that support personal freedom and don't appreciate government overreach so they are against mandates. Defund the police should have cost Democrats the 2020 election but it didn't because some in GOP beat it with "covid isn't real". Some on the left probably want you to keep going....GOP causing vaccine hesitancy leading to more deaths and lockdowns is certainly a better talking point for Democrats than why we have bad inflation. Would it be crazy if it were like a Scooby Doo episode and you pulled off Alex Berensons mask and it was really Nancy Pelosi leading you sheep like to a 2022 loss.
Most likely invested in Covid just like the people "across the aisle" you know the ones the reach out to every once in a while.
I looked up Regeneron’s earnings for this year. They’re doing well, but nowhere near as well as Pfizer. Their product actually keeps people out of the hospital without subjecting them to horrible side effects.
It’s so sad. Everything is upside down.
Works at about half the efficacy of Ivermectin, and doesn't have the 40+ years of study.
That is absolutely untrue. Ochsner Health in Louisiana announced in August that they had given nearly 10,000 infusions to COVID sufferers, and only 28 of those people later required hospitalization. I have a friend who is alive today because his doctor referred him for monoclonal antibodies three days after his symptoms started. He is a walking comorbidity. I have another friend who was in much better shape who died of COVID because he thought ivermectin would save him. Ironically, this friend was a huge Trump supporter who clearly ignored the fact that Trump credited the infusion with his rapid recovery. I use ivermectin on my face (in the form of Soolantra) so I am familiar with its anti-inflammatory properties, but I'm not sure the average person knows the correct dose to take without consultation. My husband and I had COVID in early August. It was a cold for him. I ended up with pneumonia but recovered quickly. I wish I had gone for the infusion the first week instead of assuming I would be fine without it. I might be able to taste food and smell the flowers I grow now. As it stands, I don't know when those senses will return.
Suzy, the real world Ivermectin trials have had a lot of problems getting out to the public. The FLCCC.net is a good source, and gives protocols for it's use, they are not opposed to vaccinations. Dr. John Cambell is a British doctor that supports vaccines and took a long time to study IVM. Here is his latest youtube talk comparing IVM to molnupiravir. The part where I say the IVM has a much longer recorded use is true as molnupiravir is a brand new drug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKa3EZqofNo
Nuremberg 2.0 for these fat cats
Anyone who got a jab, no matter the manufacture, made this possible.
Tru, we have to be patient with those that got the jab. Many of them were scared, scared for their families, scared for their jobs. MSM can be very compelling. It is not the case for everyone who was vaxxed but when your doc tells you to do something and you trust them, sometimes bad decisions are made. Many do not have the time to be on forums like we are and doing the best they can. For those that got it to continue the narrative, well that is another story...
I would place more blame on the gov’t bureaucrats allocating taxpayer money on big pharma contracts for the clot shots.
When you have zero liability downside exposure and a government pimping "free" shots they pay you for...😎
Wonder how many politicians and WEF acolytes have made enough F-you money on this pandemic to let the whole system burn down without a care in the world. Green climate stocks next!
You bet your ass that CLiMatE cHaNge will be the next emergency trauma inflicted on the first world. Lockdowns and surveillance that will make Covid look quaint.
And all of the covid hysteria trained people to obey obey obey.
Precisely correct. Dumbshit people will be BEGGING for their government to take care of them, forever.
The vax will have made them incapable of taking care of themselves, thus gummint their only option. And the $$$ rape of the unvaxxed to care for the sheeple.
after seeing this all play out, who in their right mind would want the govt telling them anything......
every time I see young people riding their bikes or walking to school on their own WITH masks on, I cringe, knowing that this level of Orwellian obedience can only lead us to the erosion of civil liberties.
Already here. I believe these vaccines were made in conjunction with the climate change agenda. Thin the population. Wonder how many women and men are sterilized because of these vaccines. How many will develop catastrophic health issues down the road. I believe this is all tied to climate change.
Right and none of this will be apparent for a few more years for those close to child-bearing age. I just know deep down, when they start injecting infants, we are going to see the true evilness of what they are doing as they are too young to have a robust immune system but of course they’ll blame it on something else initially.
And they want to sterilize the children too. "If we do vaccines right..."
the panic stories on NPR have already shifted from covid to climate. and they're playing catch-up on supply chain panic too.
UGH...I despise NPR. This coming from a past "sustaining member".
Pfizer applying for eua for 5-11. La city council now votes to barr the unvaccinated 12 and up from entering public places like shopping centers, movie theaters , restaurants and gyms. Someone help me make sense of this madness.
Oh and fda just approved blood thinners for children ? Wth why? Unless you are prepping for mass issues from something else .
You’d think that would be enough to raise a red flag! But I must say, most people are either to busy to follow the news or have chosen not to because it’s so bad and mostly untruthful that they have no clue of what’s happening in the world. I used to be one of those people until I woke up and that was purely coincidental.
I've read so many parents who "can't wait" until the kids' jabs are approved. It's heartbreaking to read.
It really is! I’m just sick over it. With flu season not in full swing yet which is more deadly for children, I wonder how well they’ll be able to fight it after being vaccinated or next season when they have had multiple shots/boosters
City council should be charged with manslaughter at a bare minimum for every child that dies
Yes but you know there are parents waiting with joy to jab their kids!! Bc they think the virus is that deadly for their child . Now if the child is immune compromised , sure , parents assess risk and benefit but there is no benefit and only risk for healthy kids . And we already know this is going to be some kind of annual subscription . Load them up with peg carcinogens and lnp that cross the blood barrier ! I’m weeping and angry .
Sadly, it’s going to take a lot of dead children or seriously ill children before they wisen up to all of this. 😢
I do not want this but there are consequences . Fda and cdc will lose all credibility forever
thousands of families with vax-injured kiddos have known this since 1986 when liability was removed from all vax manufacturers. This is not new. Perhaps the silver lining coming from this nightmare is that parents will wake up to the CDC/FDA corruption and the Big Pharma-CDC/FDA revolving door. Whatever happens, I do hope that Fraudci goes to jail.
Not all credibility, only the credibility of those who recognize the scam, which is a declining portion of the population.
I don’t want this either. It makes me incredibly sad and angered and I pray this doesn’t happen 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I dont want to pay taxes, but they'll hurt me if I don't, and take the money anyway, so I pay them to leave me alone.
Will? They already have.
I get more educated on this vac fiasco by coming here and reading the posts. Thank you Alex and all members!
worth reminding everyone that moderna was in financial trouble, with stephane bancel likely misleading investors, until COVID hit. thank God for answered prayers, amirite
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/
Always follow the money
You know, that they know, they've hit the jackpot when "gun violence" gets almost no coverage in the leftist medai. Once the precedent is set, that a president can issue edicts with the force of law, all other socialist-agenda items will be a cake walk.
If you’re a miserable lying cheating scumbag, you’re still a miserable lying cheating scumbag even if you have money. Tough way to live. Money isn’t everything. It’s not even much at the end of the day. Family, God, self respect and a good night’s sleep are way more important.
From rags to billionaires, with no liability on a single unapproved product.
not bad!
And I've read that most of their initial funding came from DARPA.
“Follow the money, I mean science.”
These 6 words explain the US COVID vaccine policy better than the millions of contradictory words that have poured forth on a daily basis from our public health officials.
Why is it that a shot that is known to cause heart issues in the very young is being forced on the youth? Is this not criminal? (Rhetorical I know) what is the term for an authority wanting to cause great harm on the populace?
In a sane world, and we left that behind years or decades ago, this “product” would have been withdrawn. Lotta intestinal fortitude on the corporations to request 5 to 11 year olds be subjected to it. People discuss medical and religious exemptions. We are beyond that. This is assault and battery.
Oh, and where are the fearless government types proposing and introducing legislation to repeal the 1986 liability free drug maker Act. Not a peep. Never even mentioned. I wonder why that is?
I wonder where the Mexican drug cartels would be, if they could include them on lists like that.
Ha! At least they have no moral pretensions.
Exactly. Kinda why Hunter Biden is a more honest artist than Andy Warhol. At least Biden does his own crappy art instead of hiring art students to paint them and then signing them as Warhols. But you need X-band radar to tell which of each is lower than the other.
Do you really believe that Hunter is actually doing that crappy art? I think there's some "starving" artist out there being paid well for his/her ugly art and to keep they're mouth shut about it...eventually they'll "tie-up loose ends" on this money laundering deal, but for now Hunter is signing his name to some other poor dumbass's art...Hunter has no skills, even this crappy art requires more effort than he can muster up.
But he does, lewd behavior, bad judgement and obtaining illegal drugs! How could you forget that!
Although it must be horrible for his parents to have a son like him, it must be so embarrassing for them.
CEO Moderna said in 2017 that mRNA vaccine technology had too many side effects to enable a vaccine to be produced (from Unreported Truths). This guy is a con artist extraordinaire!
I would also live to know who their key shareholders are. I'll bet there are some familiar names on that list.
Hopefully one of the conservative networks expose this. I’ve wondered myself.
Absolute disgrace!
Thankfully I’ll be jobless because I refuse to take their poison, so I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.
LOL same!
Alt #2 Imagine what a financial disaster they would be in right now without an exemption from liability of harm.
Our grandchildren’s taxpayer dollars at work.
If anyone wonders,why the relentless push to vaccinate children?Because the liability immunity for the emergency authorization ends at the end of this year.Pfizer and Moderna have a lot of product they need to move by year end…
Glad to hear their immunity against liability expires at the end of this year. I thought it was forever. Looks like their legal immunity far outlasted their vaccines' immunity.
Yes,the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in current use are those approved under an emergency use protocol which expires at year’s end.Neither of these products is FDA approved.The product for which Pfizer received FDA approval is a ‘new’ vaccine called Comirnaty,which is not yet available in the US.So,if you receive a Covid vaccine before years end,it will be one of the emergency use authorized products for which the manufacturerers have immunity from liability lawsuits…
Is this true? Why? Because the EUA expires? This could be monumental…
imagine if each person who had an adverse event or died....was compensated. there is, however, no compensation for the loss of a life. i dont care how much money you throw at someones family. dont forget they knew this. they were warned. they were warned by many involved early on. Dr. Robert Malone warned them. Geert van den boesch warned them. Dr Yeadon warned them. just to name a few. greatest crimes to ever occur against humanity.
No doubt physicians pushing the vaccine will receive their compensation from these companies as well. But we won’t see it. Sunshine Act my ass.
Coincidentally, they also cracked the top 400 of the Most Evil People on Earth list too.
Top 40
Well.. the most evil we do not know who they are by designsince they operate with a 1000+ front masks.
It's $cience.
It’s not about the money.
It’s about the money.
speaking of making money....i would love to see the money trail that leads to justin trudeau. in canada he announced last evening that as of oct 30th you cannot LEAVE canada via airplane or train without up to date inoculations. which we all know is soon to be three. justin signed contracts with pfizer through 2025.
Evil.
When is it never follow the money?
Wait, I thought NIH director Collins just said, "I don't hear any of them say this is a money maker", "nobody sees this as a way to make billions of dollars"
And Pfizer on track to make $33B revenue this year.
It is not for the “greater good?” 🤔
https://twitter.com/pezntjournalist/status/1444049363169284097?s=12
Mission Accomplished!
Or at least the first sortie. Prepare for the next scam, which will do even more damage and bring in even more money. Once you have the suckers primed, they keep spending to avoid letting on to themselves that they've been scammed.
Absolutely sickening!
Don't say it's about the money, it's about SCIENTISM, dammit!
SCIENTISM, def. - a little bit of science, a good dose of politics, leading to whole lotta coercion,
"Imagine how rich they’d be if the vaccine actually worked" ... Alex! If the vaccine actually provided durable immunity, there would be no need for boosters!
And THAT WOULD BE BAD!
Its called "planned obsolescence." You think of it as a bug - but it is actually a feature - ESPECIALLY when you can get the government to mandate the planned-obsolescent-product.
"Its a big club. And you ain't in it." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvxt1svxso
Crimes against humanity.
And they should be prosecuted accordingly.
Is this true?
I read somewhere that the Moderna vaccine was announced TWO DAYS after the Covid-19 DNA structure (not sure that that’s the right way to describe it!) was made available.
If it is true, that’s either a miracle or someone had a “head-start”…
Thoughts?
Bad Cat has a post entirely about this issue.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/were-some-folks-a-little-too-prepared
Rumor has it they applied for the vaccine patent years before....it boils down for the old saying, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" I'll go out on a limb and say, the virus was released after they developed the "vaccine" because the money is in the vaccine....and now Merack (sp?) the maker of ivermectin is developing a medication with a 700% markup over ivermectin....guessing it's ivermectin using a new name. The lust for big $$$ is unstoppable....
I absolutely wouldn’t doubt it!
These drug companies do that all the time. Combine to drugs with expiring patents and repatent the “new product”…. Same old thing in a new wrapper.
Look at Pharma Bro - that’s what he did…
I wanted to say there should be no profit if there is no liability.
If you have no risk of loss, you should have no opportunity for gain.
I wonder why they are pushing boosters??
Drug pushers need a perpetual supply of victims (ahhhh, I mean, users).
How wonderful to get rich at the expense of people's lives.
I really wish these vax companies would be HONEST with us and stop trying to hide the potential complications associated with their “medications.” I feel like collateral damage.
If they did that, no money would be made. And so many sell out for the almighty dollar.
Thanks for all the posts. I am so glad I am not alone in this. For a long time, I thought there was something wrong with me for not wanting to get the vaccine. I am so glad that I found all of you!
Luella, I am for whatever a person decides for themselves, for vax or not. They need to have informed consent which has not been happening. This in itself is a sin. Once you know risk/reward or pros/cons, one make make their own decision without mandates or coercion. But you are definitely not alone. There are a few dissenters on here but that is ok. We need to welcome them so we do not emulate what the so called elites are doing to us. Open discourse, polite conversation and ok to agree to disagree.
Lobbyists. They work.
This is nothing compared to what Atheist Fauci , has made with the CCP ,Pharmaceutical , Disney ,Locked downs ,Face Masks mandates and many more i am certain that i have missed a few . And the woke Military is looking for Domestic terrorist and Fauci , Collins and Daszak doesn't seem to meet this definition . Even has someone who was kicked out of school a window in the 3rd grade by a bully and never went back knows that Fauci ,Collins and Daszak , fits the domestic terrorist their names are in every description of terrorist . And seeing that their is more cases deaths than 1 year ago why is the media not covering this and why was we sold something that is proven not to be true . We was promised less cases Hospitalization's mortality and the cases are harder to diagnose care time than before and Vaccine trials was in anyone's arm . You think that seeing none of these Vaccines trials communicate with or work with the brain has anything to do with this Bio weapon that Fauci and Collins have made . You would think CNN Anderson's Pooper Scooper , Chis Cuomo would be all over this instead they are covering everything up as Resident Muppet , pushing more Vaccine trial like a rock into Hunter Biden , crack pipe . And the woke military are looking for Karen the Domestic terrorist . And we have how many worldwide dead because of these 2 evil people .
And now he has a new documentary on his life and work on Disney Plus. Boycotting all things Disney. I don't need Dumbo that bad...
The CCP owns Disney!
They will soon own everything.....
As long as President Puppet, is in charge the CCP will own and Control everything Worldwide.
Indeed...heavy sigh. He has cognitive dysfunction to boot so there are those behind the scenes pulling his strings....
Where does fauci’s wife fit in on this ?
As chief at the nih’s department of bioethics ?
REeeeeaaaaaalllllyyyyy
Truly disgusting. Was the COVID-19 vaccine a hail Mary for Moderna? Weren't they tanking financially before the pandemic turned their fortunes around? Does anyone know?