Alex, I am an EMT with an all volunteer department in NC. Most of us took the jabs as part of the first responders early enrollment program in January when our County’s paid service took the jabs. All of our members DID NOT take the jab (I can’t call it a vaccine because it really doesn’t fit the description of a vaccine). I elected to take a CoVid antibody test on August 4 and it came back with a high number which right now has no clinical significance but it does show I have a high level of antibodies. To have a positive result only requires 0.8 units/ml. Mine was 519.9. Before I take a booster, I am going to repeat the antibody test and if it is still positive for antibodies I will not take a booster. It’s anti-science to do so. Our county has had just 12,700 positive CoVid tests and 181 deaths since April 2020. That equals a case mortality rate of under 1.5%. While it is higher than flu deaths, I believe that that the CDC has been rolling in Flu deaths and other deaths into the CoVid numbers. That is undeniable.
Thanks for staying on this story and please do a follow up on getting a CoVid Antibody test. It’s relatively inexpensive and something everyone should do prior to taking any CoVid jab.
Glad I'm not alone. I hope they stand firm. One thing not mentioned: when you "agree" to get vaccinated, how many shots are you "signing up" for? Who gets to say "when?" I could, conceivably, get forced to take one shot -- if that was it. But it's looking like I'd be signing my life away. I'm a person who never gets flu shots, or anything else. I don't go to doctors; I don't take any medications. I don't get tests, check-ups or any of that sort of thing. Knock on wood but I haven't needed to, and I'm not the sort to go looking for trouble. Being forced into a regimen of shots is a really big deal for me.
I and my husband both had covid last December; My primary symptom was my oxygen levels declined to mid-80s and my husband's doctor was making plans to hospitalize me (no one told me this until later). I took ivermectin against this doctor's advice, it is easily available in the country I live in, and the next day my oxygen levels shot up to low 90s. On the second dose of ivermectin on day 3, my oxygen levels shot up to mid - high 90s and stayed there until even now, 9 months later. People don't have to be hospitalized, people don't have to die, and what is being done now with this barbarian hospital treatment of incubation and useless drugs is criminal and on purpose, as pretext to prolong this political corruption and fraud......(IMO). I hope people wake up to that fact, how many more 'variants' will they come up with as excuse why people are not responding to the so-called vaccine......really it is just mindboggling to me that so many people do not see what is happening.
The fraud of the mandates is obvious. If vaccines are available to everyone who wants it, and if they work, those who are vaccinated don't need to worry about the unvaccinated. It's like requiring cruise ship passengers know how to swim. It's unlikely to save them in any event, and if they can swim, it doesn't matter if others can. Those demanding compliance with irrational mandates are either evil or stupid enough to be manipulated by evil.
The real problem is why so many people are so willing to uncritically accept the fraud. It shows a much deeper set of problems than just a routine virus. If there are so many willing to accept manipulation, and so many eager to provide it, this won't end well.
In Ontario, Canada, all 40,000 physicians got an email yesterday from the Registrar of the College of Physicians that physicians should not give exemptions almost at all. See the text below from that email:
"Generally speaking, there are very few acceptable medical exemptions to the COVID-19 vaccination (e.g., an allergist/immunologist-confirmed severe allergy or anaphylactic reaction to a previous dose of a COVID-19 vaccine or to any of its components that cannot be mitigated; a diagnosed episode of myocarditis/pericarditis after receipt of an mRNA vaccine). Given the rarity of these exceptions, and in light of the fact that vaccines have been proven to be both safe and effective, any notes written for patients who qualify for a medical exemption need to clearly specify:
-the reason they cannot be vaccinated against COVID-19 (i.e., document clear medical information that supports the exemption); and
-the effective time period for the medical reason (i.e., permanent or time-limited). "
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Wow, it's very simple. how could you trust anything any criticism of which is censored or punished? How could you trust anything that is being so broadly coerced? For many people the censorship and the coercion are reasons enough not to want this.
In Maine the same thing is happening. Nurses, EMS, dental staff, nursing home staff are all losing their jobs very soon.
These mandates are no longer based in good science given all the evidence coming out about natural immunity, waning efficacy of the shots, those with shots getting sick, can ending up in hospital, getting long-haul, dying, spreading, etc. This is the largest failed experiment in human history. Israel is on their third round and people are still getting sick.
It's time to start pushing back that there is no good data any more to keep going down this road. In fact, what is being set up is a perfect storm. If all of those who work in EMS, medicine, government, education, military have the shots and the above paraphrased publicly available data is true, then we could potentially be creating a monumental crisis.
There is far too much bureaucracy, arrogance and greed involved to get this train to halt as quickly as we need it to but keep calling and start sounding the alarm based on this. All the articles, studies and expert medical/science opinions are all publicly available for this.
My husband was hospitalized after taking the second Moderna shot. His arm turned red and completely swelled and blew up to a huge stiff painful arm from shoulder through to fingers. He almost lost his arm. Don't get the shot, or don't agree to any boosters if you have made it this far
Same thing about to happen in WA state. Lawsuits are mounting against Inslee though, so the pressure is building. They estimate 20-30% of state workers, firefighters, healthcare workers, school employees will all be fired if Inslee goes through with it. It basically would cause a societal collapse. WSDOT in particular is very very concerned, as well as several fire districts and state patrol. Seattle already has a huge school bus driver shortage and kids were delayed 2 hours to get to school. The vaccine mandate will make it worse on the already huge worker shortage we have in WA state.
Prayers to all of you Firefighters and thank you for your Service. We cannot survive literally without you or the Police. I do hope you all stand together in this fight. It’s not just about health this is about mandates and what else will they force on us. It’s sad this has all become about power and politics. 🙏🙏🙏
They should walk off en-masse, that is the only way to get results. They are putting more people in harm's way by not having health or fire-fighter services, than by not getting the covid shot. And especially if some are volunteer, why would anyone get the potentially dangerous shot when they are not even getting paid for their work??
This is what it is going to stop the mandates. Glad to hear people are pushing back! Look at all the compliance orders that have been added since March 2020 when we were asked, no demanded, to slow the curve so hospitals would not be overrun. If they are like me, the word "hesitant" is the wrong word to be using about these rushed vaccines, mandates or not. "Not getting it" is a better phrase to replace "hesitant"!
Is there a group for nurses? My daughter, 23, former college athlete in perfect health and has natural immunity from previous infection is being force by her hospital. I am so distraught.
This is outrageous and anti science. If you've had covid like I have , you should NOT take the vaccine anyway. Regardless, stay unified against this anti science communist tyranny. The vaccine barely works anyway. Healthy non at risk workers like yourselves have basically zero need for it.
As a full time Lieutenant for a major suburban Fire Department in Illinois, we are gearing up to fight this mandate.
Alex, I am an EMT with an all volunteer department in NC. Most of us took the jabs as part of the first responders early enrollment program in January when our County’s paid service took the jabs. All of our members DID NOT take the jab (I can’t call it a vaccine because it really doesn’t fit the description of a vaccine). I elected to take a CoVid antibody test on August 4 and it came back with a high number which right now has no clinical significance but it does show I have a high level of antibodies. To have a positive result only requires 0.8 units/ml. Mine was 519.9. Before I take a booster, I am going to repeat the antibody test and if it is still positive for antibodies I will not take a booster. It’s anti-science to do so. Our county has had just 12,700 positive CoVid tests and 181 deaths since April 2020. That equals a case mortality rate of under 1.5%. While it is higher than flu deaths, I believe that that the CDC has been rolling in Flu deaths and other deaths into the CoVid numbers. That is undeniable.
Thanks for staying on this story and please do a follow up on getting a CoVid Antibody test. It’s relatively inexpensive and something everyone should do prior to taking any CoVid jab.
Glad I'm not alone. I hope they stand firm. One thing not mentioned: when you "agree" to get vaccinated, how many shots are you "signing up" for? Who gets to say "when?" I could, conceivably, get forced to take one shot -- if that was it. But it's looking like I'd be signing my life away. I'm a person who never gets flu shots, or anything else. I don't go to doctors; I don't take any medications. I don't get tests, check-ups or any of that sort of thing. Knock on wood but I haven't needed to, and I'm not the sort to go looking for trouble. Being forced into a regimen of shots is a really big deal for me.
I and my husband both had covid last December; My primary symptom was my oxygen levels declined to mid-80s and my husband's doctor was making plans to hospitalize me (no one told me this until later). I took ivermectin against this doctor's advice, it is easily available in the country I live in, and the next day my oxygen levels shot up to low 90s. On the second dose of ivermectin on day 3, my oxygen levels shot up to mid - high 90s and stayed there until even now, 9 months later. People don't have to be hospitalized, people don't have to die, and what is being done now with this barbarian hospital treatment of incubation and useless drugs is criminal and on purpose, as pretext to prolong this political corruption and fraud......(IMO). I hope people wake up to that fact, how many more 'variants' will they come up with as excuse why people are not responding to the so-called vaccine......really it is just mindboggling to me that so many people do not see what is happening.
I wish the world could wake up and see who the real enemy is. We've all been pitted against each other so an elite few can reap the harvest.
The fraud of the mandates is obvious. If vaccines are available to everyone who wants it, and if they work, those who are vaccinated don't need to worry about the unvaccinated. It's like requiring cruise ship passengers know how to swim. It's unlikely to save them in any event, and if they can swim, it doesn't matter if others can. Those demanding compliance with irrational mandates are either evil or stupid enough to be manipulated by evil.
The real problem is why so many people are so willing to uncritically accept the fraud. It shows a much deeper set of problems than just a routine virus. If there are so many willing to accept manipulation, and so many eager to provide it, this won't end well.
In Ontario, Canada, all 40,000 physicians got an email yesterday from the Registrar of the College of Physicians that physicians should not give exemptions almost at all. See the text below from that email:
"Generally speaking, there are very few acceptable medical exemptions to the COVID-19 vaccination (e.g., an allergist/immunologist-confirmed severe allergy or anaphylactic reaction to a previous dose of a COVID-19 vaccine or to any of its components that cannot be mitigated; a diagnosed episode of myocarditis/pericarditis after receipt of an mRNA vaccine). Given the rarity of these exceptions, and in light of the fact that vaccines have been proven to be both safe and effective, any notes written for patients who qualify for a medical exemption need to clearly specify:
-the reason they cannot be vaccinated against COVID-19 (i.e., document clear medical information that supports the exemption); and
-the effective time period for the medical reason (i.e., permanent or time-limited). "
-------------
Wow, it's very simple. how could you trust anything any criticism of which is censored or punished? How could you trust anything that is being so broadly coerced? For many people the censorship and the coercion are reasons enough not to want this.
In Maine the same thing is happening. Nurses, EMS, dental staff, nursing home staff are all losing their jobs very soon.
These mandates are no longer based in good science given all the evidence coming out about natural immunity, waning efficacy of the shots, those with shots getting sick, can ending up in hospital, getting long-haul, dying, spreading, etc. This is the largest failed experiment in human history. Israel is on their third round and people are still getting sick.
It's time to start pushing back that there is no good data any more to keep going down this road. In fact, what is being set up is a perfect storm. If all of those who work in EMS, medicine, government, education, military have the shots and the above paraphrased publicly available data is true, then we could potentially be creating a monumental crisis.
There is far too much bureaucracy, arrogance and greed involved to get this train to halt as quickly as we need it to but keep calling and start sounding the alarm based on this. All the articles, studies and expert medical/science opinions are all publicly available for this.
My husband was hospitalized after taking the second Moderna shot. His arm turned red and completely swelled and blew up to a huge stiff painful arm from shoulder through to fingers. He almost lost his arm. Don't get the shot, or don't agree to any boosters if you have made it this far
Same thing about to happen in WA state. Lawsuits are mounting against Inslee though, so the pressure is building. They estimate 20-30% of state workers, firefighters, healthcare workers, school employees will all be fired if Inslee goes through with it. It basically would cause a societal collapse. WSDOT in particular is very very concerned, as well as several fire districts and state patrol. Seattle already has a huge school bus driver shortage and kids were delayed 2 hours to get to school. The vaccine mandate will make it worse on the already huge worker shortage we have in WA state.
Prayers to all of you Firefighters and thank you for your Service. We cannot survive literally without you or the Police. I do hope you all stand together in this fight. It’s not just about health this is about mandates and what else will they force on us. It’s sad this has all become about power and politics. 🙏🙏🙏
They should walk off en-masse, that is the only way to get results. They are putting more people in harm's way by not having health or fire-fighter services, than by not getting the covid shot. And especially if some are volunteer, why would anyone get the potentially dangerous shot when they are not even getting paid for their work??
It's not about being against vaccines. It's about being against shitty products.
This is what it is going to stop the mandates. Glad to hear people are pushing back! Look at all the compliance orders that have been added since March 2020 when we were asked, no demanded, to slow the curve so hospitals would not be overrun. If they are like me, the word "hesitant" is the wrong word to be using about these rushed vaccines, mandates or not. "Not getting it" is a better phrase to replace "hesitant"!
Is there a group for nurses? My daughter, 23, former college athlete in perfect health and has natural immunity from previous infection is being force by her hospital. I am so distraught.
This is outrageous and anti science. If you've had covid like I have , you should NOT take the vaccine anyway. Regardless, stay unified against this anti science communist tyranny. The vaccine barely works anyway. Healthy non at risk workers like yourselves have basically zero need for it.