As in move to a state where it’s not required if your state requires it.
As in protest.
As in lie.
As in know the science better than your kid’s pediatrician, her teacher, her school board member, so that you can explain - simply and without getting upset - why they do not know what they’re talking about.
As in DO NOT let your kids get a jab of mRNA that will at best protect them for a matter of months and at worst will wrongfoot their immune systems so that for THE REST OF THEIR LIVES they will be burdened with a miswired response to a virus that they would otherwise defeat easily.
A lot of you have asked me for sources on the general (roughly zero) risk to kids. I will include those in a separate email. But read and understand this piece first; it is the background you need.
The money shot:
“The most dangerous thing to do, at this point, would be to vaccinate children. The virus is not a threat to them, and if they are infected by the new forms of SARS-2 that are sure to emerge every winter, we will begin to establish – through them and the as yet unvaccinated – the layered immunity that is the only way of coming to terms with SARS-2 in the longer term.”
I read the eugyppius article, although not medical I do have technical degrees. It seems to me that given this fact of the antigenic sin of initial virus exposure effect, this shot is dangerous for adults is catastrophic for children.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread seems like an appropriate expression of caution that is being ignored and laughed at today. Laugh today cry tomorrow, this is insane to vaccinate your children with this poison.
Not Forgetting ,OAS, just forcing Toxic Spike Protein production on Kids is going to ruin their lives, and they want covid "vaccines" to be added to the already immune disabling vaccine schedule for 0 -17 yo. Will these kids even make it to adulthood? Kids and young adults already suffer from the five A's...autism, ADHD.allergies,asthma,and Autoimmune diseases...all related to a malfunctioning immune system. Now they can add the two C's.....Clots and myoCarditis to the immune dysfunction.
Thank you! I'm quite new to the tweetybird myself, and my almost 2 dozen followers 😋will appreciate it... you put it so clearly. Maybe others will pass it on, too.
If you have a technical degree, you can read the Pfizer Phase III trial, as well as the 6 month update. I think you will come away that vaccines reduce infection in adults and are very protective against severe disease. Although side effects can be severe, they aren't frequent. Vaccinating kids is a whole different question. Their risk of severe Covid is very low to begin with. People on both sides of the vaccine issue just can't seem to absorb the fact that this is an age related disease, like macular degeneration or falling down and breaking your hip.
The Pfizer Phase III trials and the 6 month update do not provide evidence of protection against severe disease or death...at all.
The UKHSA reports show a higher rate of infection in the fully vaxxed age 30 and older. Three weeks ago that crossover was age 40. So, any protection the jabs provide against infection and transmission is dropping like a rock.
The jabs do still show some protection against severe disease and death, but that is also dropping over time. They are not rolling out a booster dose of last year's magic potions because dose 1 and dose 2 worked too well.
If 70-year-olds want to get a jab every six months, that's on them. There is no justification for mandating anyone to take these jabs, especially young health adults and children.
3. Reduction in COVID and COVID-pneumonia deaths (2 deaths in the placebo group for every 1 in the vaccine group). This 2:1 ratio matches what we’re seeing empirically many places, though reporting is uneven.
RISKS
1. Increase in Severe Side Effects (3.9 severe side effects for every 1 severe COVID case prevented).
2. Increase in Cardiac Arrest Deaths (4 cardiac arrest deaths in vaccine group for every 1 in the placebo group)
3. 15 total deaths in vaccine group vs. 14 in placebo group. (See table S4. "S" as in Shareholder value).
This is one of the first vaccine candidates ever approved in the United States where more people died in the VACCINE ARM vs. the PLACEBO ARM of the randomized placebo-controlled study.
Nobody who has read the clinical trial is surprised at the increase in heart attacks and cardiac deaths going on right now. It is in the data. It is what we would expect.
There is no evidence of causality in these tiny numbers of adverse events, which are no higher than you would expect in any population of that size followed for that period of time. If you follow both arms for the next 80 years you will find that everybody in both arms has died.
Covid 19 causes clotting due Spike Proteins, so why couldn't Vaccine induced Spike Proteins that leak into the circulatory system. It's worth autopsying all vaccine deaths that occur shortly after the shots. SCIENCE IS NEVER SETTLED,despite what Biden & Fauci Say!
And..... you lost me and likely most of this room right after "conspiracy theory" which is the phrase always trotted out by people who know they've lost the argument and have run out of evidence and reasoned rebuttal.
Yeah, the groups running the trials have no conflicts of interest and are totally credible and trustworthy. Plenty of “legitimate” RCTs had been completely bogus and corrupted “randomized” trials. No one has been honest about COVID since they came up with the name.
I just started watching the show “Dopesick”. It’s based on a documentary about the opioid pandemic (I will definitely watch it next). Everyone that still has faith in the FDA & big Pharma should watch this show. History just keeps repeating.
The whole purpose of an RCT is to establish causality. The outcome measure is the dependent variable. The drug or vaccine is the independent variable. The treatment and control groups are the same, due to randomization. The only thing different is the treatment. So, if there is a different outcome, the treatment caused it. That's medical science 101.
No, you don't understand statistics do you? There were outcomes on both sides that were the same, i.e. people got sick and died on both sides. It's the relative numbers of them that are being compared. The null hypothesis is what is being challenged, i.e. the differences in the outcomes on the two sides are not related to the treatment. Beyond that, what happens to any individual isn't predictable and statistics do not apply to individuals only populations. Medical science is bunk.
For EVERY drug trial we look at three elements to conclude that correlation evidence is sufficiently indicative of causation to warrant a pause: 1. Demographic, 2. Geographic. 3. Symptomatic. These combined with a plausible explanation have ALWAYS been sufficient to pull a drug.
There is no evidence for this comment. Unless you're willing to provide some. Where do you get that there are tiny numbers? 16,000 people have died after taking the vaccine
Any 3rd grader could look at the charts presented by sane and honest doctors showing the bad effects/deaths and I'll bet they'd opt to not drink the kool aid.
The risk for kids dying from this engineered disaster is nearly 0%...end-of-discussion from a risk\benefit (decision support). Some parents, however, will choose to ignore that and play Russian roulette with their kids short-term & long-term health. That's established and demonstrated in the article Alex cites.
In my California county we have NO one under 17 dead from covid and only 1 under 29 in all these months. But every child I know (including mine) has had covid.
Annual Vaccines for RNA viruses (FLU & now Covid) promote pathogenic priming.....the more you Vax the more sick you'll become. NIH actually has studies to this effect; I'm not sure any in charge ever reads them, though!
The fact is that for most healthy adults up to about 79 years old, the survival rate is above 99%, and in younger healthy people (under 50), the IFR is statistically insignificant, because survival is effectively 100%. In the US, most COVID fatalities are of persons with an average of well over 2 co-morbidities. The vaccines are simply not necessary for most people, but they are potentially causing a rolling pandemic by being vaccinated during a pandemic, a stunt that some experts warned us about attempting even before the vaccines were developed (in case you haven't been paying attention).
Actually, the people who died have an average of 4.0 comorbidites. This has been the case for months.
Comorbidities and other conditions
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions,
Macular degeneration is not an "age related" disease, it is a dietary induced disease. Research linoleic acid and other highly oxidative products of toxic seed oils.
Macular degeneration did not exist, and the technology to diagnose existed BEFORE first case was documented in medical research.
The sooner people realize "vegetable" seed oils are primary cause of almost all modern diseases, the sooner we can extract ourselves from the maw of the diabolical Rockefeller medical establishment that's been raping and pillaging our world for the last century.
There is a group of people who are devoting lots of time & effort reviewing the research on toxic seed oils. There are a number videos with Dr. Knobbe, Dr. Cate Shananahn, Tucker Goodrich, Brad Marshall - and this is small list.
And strangely enough, it also includes most chicken and pork meat because of the highly oxidative diet they are fed and they, like us, are monogastric.
Olive and avocado oils, which are oils from fruit, would generally be considered healthy EXCEPT it is too easy to adulterate both of these with seed oils, and the consumer is none the wiser. So just be careful with these. Some people find as they eliminate seed oils, they can detect adulterated fruit oils (I get GERD), so keep that in mind.
Black seed cumin oil is probably used on a sparing, prophylactic basis, right?
As far as "our omega oils safely" comment, I really recommend you listen to, and or read postings, of the people listed above. If this past 2 years hasn't taught us anything, it is we all need to spend a lot more time educating ourselves and less time blindly following "leaders" (AKA marketers talking points).
It's age related but also mitochondrial health related. Someone who is 30 with multiple underlying health conditions is older biologically than their actual age. That's been the big lie, even though the data on this has been very clear for more than a year.
Medical providers are barely documenting adverse events and for several people that I know had adverse events such as death and extreme shortness of breath their doctors will not even entertain the thought that these acute conditions were vaxx related. It’s horrifying what the medical establishment is doing to us
If I have a technical degree? Oh ok yeah you caught me. You are drifting from the point of the efficacy of giving an experimental gene therapy to children who’s immune system is still developing and the danger that is poses. If you are good rolling the dice on your children’s future health given inadequate testing that has been done, I feel sorry for you.
Perhaps you forgot that you said, "I do have a technical degree" I assume you mentioned that because you feel that you are able to evaluate medical evidence. Hence my recommendation that your read the studies, rather than opinion websites. You make a lot of assumptions. One of them is that my comments, which didn't mention children, had something to do with them. The vax isn't experimental. It has been proved to work in giant trials. However, I agree with you that the extension to younger and younger age groups raises unanswered questions. Is a vax justified if you aren't at much risk from the disease in the first place? Is it reasonable to give a vax to 5 year olds when no Phase III trial show they work? By the way, if you avoided comments like "I feel sorry for you," your comments would have more credibility. Fauci feels sorry for people who don't get the vax. His problem is that he's not very good at making the case for the vax. A good starting point would be accurately citing scientific information, without hype or misleading statements, appeals to emotion, or misleading arguments.
Let me just say this, IF and I do not agree it is effective given the only people I know that have had the virus were all vaccinated, if it were effective 10 months after the roll out, why does it need to be mandated? IF it is so effective why are Congress automatically exempt from mandates? IF it was so safe and effective why have the manufacturers got ZERO liability? IF a child has a 0.03% chance of contracting the virus and even lower risk of dying from it why would any sane parent want to put their child into this experiment?
'Giant trials'??? You've got to be kidding me! Pfizer had about 36,000 people, J&J had about 60,000, Moderna about 40,000; I don't know about AstraZeneca. Not all the trials covered all age groups. They were short. There were questionable practices which you can read about if you read the comments on the bmj blog and comments to the journal. Look for comments from Peter Doshi, an editor of the journal. They were approved for emergency use. For a disease with such a small death rate, trials would have had to include millions of people to show that the shots reduced the incidence of death from covid. I read the initial trial results and the 6 month followup. I didn't see what you saw at all.
It absolutely has not been proved to work and since it hasnt been tested on children and pregnant women it is experimental on them. And since its a new technology and hasnt gone through all phases it is for all the rest. especially since the 16K deaths have not been investigated.
I know u havent read any studies. So do that now and come back to discuss.
Plus - your true colors are now coming out. Sooner than I would have thought. You were trying to be "persuasive" of all us rubes up above. Now, you are outright making things up. The injections that are being used are still experimental (still under an EUA). Whatever the FDA "approved" is an injection that isn't on the market yet. So, yeah - all the injections are experimental still. You seem not to know this or know the difference. So, yeah - you are not making the case you seem to think you are making.
I think EUA makes sense for older people who want it or those with underlying conditions but it’s never made sense for healthy people under 50 (60 really). And then the FDA, Fauci, cdc also suppressed real treatment options because of the vaccine. The whole thing just stinks and has never made sense from a public health perspective…
I am 65 and I will not take this shot. I survived stage 3b colorectal cancer since 2006 and I am not about to upset the T cells in my immune system by putting this crap in there. I have not gotten this covid despite having plenty of exposure. I believe my own immune response is more effective than any vaccine.
That might be right. I'm not sure if 50 is the cutoff, but you are in the ballpark. For younger people it's more of a question of are they worried about carrying the bug to grandma.
The trials were not giant and the vax wasn't proven to "work". Trials prove nothing, they present the results of statistical inference which only apply if the populations you eventually innoculate are similar to the ones you tested. That hasn't been the case in these vaxxes. Furthermore, "work" isn't defined so you need to do that. For any individual taking the shots, the studies say nothing nor do they predict anything.
The Pfizer RCT was larger than most vaccine trials. The Israeli cohort study contained millions. If you reject all that, as well as statistical inference, than all drug and vaccine trials are rejected and you can throw away the whole formulary.
So how many people actually understand this notion of statistical inference? Very few and they believe there is actual proof the shots work. Statistical inference is a long way from proof. Every time a double vaxxed person dies, the vaccine clearly failed. There are thousands of recorded failures and no recorded successes.
Seems you make a lot of assumptions, including what Fauci feels or doesn't. And, if you avoided using the term "conspiracy theory" for people who challenge your opinions and words like "giant" to describe a supposed scientific trial (what in the world does "giant" mean - 100 people, 1 million people?), maybe you'd have more credibility.
The vaccine were claimed to provide protection from transmission and infection. That proved false. They were claimed to be safe. That proved false by any reasonable measure of safety. They claimed to provide protection from severe effects and yes now the latest data out of the UK, Israel shows that this is false too. The only question remains: “when will this product be accepted as the failure it is”.
If one were to assume "vaccination" was the actual intent of the serum, then yes, it would and should be deemed a failure. I, for one, don't believe that's the case.
I would say the real question remaining is: "What were these shots actually designed to do?"
Pfizer provides not an ounce of protection against this disease!! I know 4 people fully vexed who not only got COVID but were sicker then hell. I know one person who died a couple weeks after her second shot. The only things these experiments provide is assuredly killing or severely injuring people. If you think your good just give it time, who knows maybe after the 3rd or 4th jab you now NEED to have!!!
I thought that no one died from COVID in either arm of the trial. You can claim from the data presented that it protects from hospitalization, but the trial itself wasn't high powered enough to show protection from death.
There was one death in the vax and 2 in the no vax. The issue you raise is one that applies to all vaccine trials. However, over the last several centuries that doctors have had vaccines and followed diseases over time we have learned that deaths tend to occur in people who are seriously ill and serious illness tends to occur in those who get infected. RCTs have saved more people than penicillin, but they never answer every question. At some point, clinical experience has to kick in as well as other kinds of data, like the Israeli cohort study with over a million people. It showed more than ten fold decrease in death and another 10 fold decrease for those who got boosters. The subsequent experience in the whole country has born out those findings, because cases and deaths are down dramatically, even though not everybody has had the vax there anymore than here. At some point you have to have a theory about disease works.
Are you talking about the same Israel that just had several weeks with record numbers of cases despite having 65%+ of the population vaccinated? That Israel? The vaccines are a fucking joke. If the smallpox vaccine were this level of dogshit ineffective, it would still be raging on every continent. Luckily Covid has a mortality rate of 0.2% (and much much lower in healthy people) vs 30% for smallpox.
You need the two primer doses and a booster. Yes, it's that Israel that's doing great. I realize that CDC hasn't been entirely clear about it, but that's how it is. Either you can accept that, or you can pretend vaccines don't work and not get one. Your choice.
Where in Pfizer's clinical trial data do they say you'll need a booster? Looks like they just figured that out on the fly. So two shots + a booster and then you're good for life? Can you point me to any clinical trial that reflects that? Or did you just make that up? Because it sounds like Israel was really fucking surprised by it.
They have backpedaled to the position of reducing infection (well below expectations) and protection against severe disease (hard to know how much sicker someone would have been had they not been vaccinated). One dope stated that her father, who died from Covid. would have suffered more had he not been vaccinated. You forgot to address the degrading of the immune system (ADE) caused by the vaccine.
Where do you come up with that? Can you give me the details? I don't agree with any of this. They do not reduce infection and they do not protect against severe disease.
Dr Risch, the Yale epidemiologist who famously presented his anti-booster findings to the FDA panel, said on Mark Levin Sunday to take your kids out of school, homeschool if necessary, do whatever it takes, but DONT VAX HEALTHY KIDS!
This will happen to the Kids.......slow motion genocide......slow enough not to be noticed until it's too late !
Annual Vaccines for RNA viruses (FLU & now Covid) promote pathogenic priming.....the more you Vax the more sick you become. NIH actually has studies to this effect; I'm not sure any in charge ever reads them, though!
Just one correction, you mean magni-homicide, not geno-cide, since the latter deals with just one ethnicity, and they are killing as many ethnicities as possible.
if we are to be rejected from regular society, we need to start schools for the unvaxxed, as well as stores, restaurants and other things. That would be a dividing line, but it's already here.
If you look up "Andrew Torba" who started the "GAB" network, he has been over the last months, building up a "Parallel Society" / Parallel Economy to do exactly what you are stating, and already it's growing rapidly, and thus i think you might want to look this up and share it with your like-minded folks.
There is no reason to vaccinate children other than to appease the cowardly whims of those terrified of Convid. It wasn’t enough that these irrationally terrified simpletons insisted on you losing your freedoms, your job, and your dignity during this “pandemic”. The children must also be used as human shields to pacify their cowardice. This is pure evil, it must be resisted at all cost by good people the world over.
True, but it echoes also Soviet Russia and Mao's China etc.. Socialist/Communism is political satanism... thus seeks to destroy any who are against it.
Well stated, truth, and i am aware of this also. They will pay dearly in eternity for doing this to the children as Jesus made clear about millstones around their neck and sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
I needed this pep talk this morning — thank you! Yes, I think the key is to remain firm and calm - not engage in the fiery political rhetoric, but just stay rooted in the absolute facts, which give no reason to vaccinate those in this age cohort — and both of my kids are in this age cohort. Here’s one talking point I’m sticking to: Both of my kids have been exposed to this virus. This is not speculative. This is based on notifications that I’ve received from their schools where they were in contact with children who tested positive. They were required to quarantine and they tested negative. There have been zero in -school transmissions from kids to other kids or kids to teachers at their school. This tells me that my kids already have immunity to this virus and / or kids are not spreading this virus. So if they’re immune or are not spreading OR getting sick why on earth would I give them this shot (which doesn’t even prevent transmission!!) Even typing this I’m getting worked up, so I’d better stay clear of too many conversations, as almost every parent I know can’t wait for this jab to be approved for their grade school kids. I wish I could get through to them for their kids sake, but I will be channeling a zen like forcefield to maintain our own family position on this. Strength and solidarity to the rest of you, especially those in the same boat of having this be foisted on our young kids. 💔
Good luck! There are lots of us without kids standing behind you. I'm not sure how to help .. if you have suggestions I welcome them. Giving kids these jabs is one of the worst ideas in my lifetime, if not the worst.
I get just as worked up as you whenever I read parents who are eagerly waiting to jab their kiddos. It's sickening to see the cult-like behavior around this novel and extremely risky technology. WHO in their right mind volunteers their kids for such an experiment? I struggle daily as it is, trying to convince my young adult (19) and my high-schooler about the dangers of these shots to their age group. Suffering a severe AE at 70 is not the same as having to live 50+ years in pain, with rashes all over your body, with seizures, or cutting your life short because of myocarditis. Let's go Brandon.
I suggest using duck duck go to search Kyle Warner pro mountain biker and show your high schooler and 19yo the video as he describes his experiences post-vax. He’s 29, but I believe his experiences are being seen in same age group as your kiddos.
He’s testifying to Congress this week. Best of luck!
It's terrible what happened to him. I think he said some of the treatments (like ivermectin and other things) are helping his condition. Hopefully there is some positive treatment for the injured that will be next.
I would suggest not putting yourself in the shoes of a 70- year old, having no idea of what they have already been through in their lives. An adverse event from a killer vaccine may just be the icing on the cake.
I was referring to a vax injury by the mRNA jab, specifically. And the fact that the prospect of pain-suffering would be shorter due to average life span.
I watched it but it bothers me that he kind of still endorses the jabs as the only way out. He did briefly mentioned "informed consent" at the beginning but that's not what my teens will hear. They will likely here the latter part of his message: you will need it to travel and do things... UGH!! I have a lot of other vaccine-injured stories that I can share with them where the victims are NOT endorsing the toxic jabs in any shape or form. Frankly, I am 100% against these jabs for all young & healthy people. Certainly, neither my 17 y.o. elite track athlete nor my healthy & active aspiring model (6' tall) daughter should risk their lives by taking them.
My step-daughter is enthusiastic about jabbing my grandson's ages 7, 3, and 1 year. Her reasoning is to protect others. All the logic in the world will not be enough to refute that argument when a person thinks Covid is an actual threat. What can be done? The Zen forcefield seems like the only path.
“As in know the science better than your kid’s pediatrician, her teacher, her school board member, so that you can explain - simply and without getting upset - why they do not know what they’re talking about.”
How has this worked so far? Why do you think it will work now? If you want resolution, hire a lawyer, or learn to fight in other ways. Rational argument doesn't work on irrational mobs.
The challenges of the science have been tried over a year. Hasn't worked. Litigation is working. Cases are being won. We don't need to love lawyers to benefit from their work. Courts are a weapon. Competent warriors use all weapons available.
I don't have faith in lawyers, nor the legal system for that matter. Litigation is a tool, and lawyers are mechanics, which sometimes work. Lately, they're winning cases. Likely to win more. That will force an end to tyranny quicker than complaints.
I want some on air personality to start asking pro vax guests if they believe that all gay people spread HIV by merely being gay. It's the same argument.
Because someone has to first be exposed to a disease before they can contract and thus spread a disease. The argument that an unvaxed person is somehow a carrier/spreader of Covid 19 is the same as saying all gay people spread HIV simply by being gay.
I think it's more of a matter that you don't have to genuflect to these authoritarian worshipping idiots than you will ever convince them of anything by using real facts.
When people are caught in their amygdala and group think thru the massive fear porn propaganda, their analytical pre-frontal cortex thinking brain doesn't click on and engage very well. That's a problem!
No one should be taking this shot at this point. The spike protein was specific to the original strain of COVID-19. We are now.....4 or 5 variants out so this would be like taking a 5 year old flu shot according to Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Pierre Cory, Dr. Robert Malone and others.....https://youtu.be/pR5sdbkOdM4
"No one" is never the right answer. To anything. That's the same flaw as "everyone" needs the vax. The important thing is everyone is different. Some have reduced immune strength that gives them higher risk from infection, and an immune boost, however temporary, can make a difference in their survival that outweighs the small risk of vax harm. You're right that no one who is "average" needs it. Question is who is average. Competent doctors would advise us on that. Unfortunately we don't have many.
"No One" should walk out in traffic with their eyes closed. No one should drink battery acid. No one should jump out of an airplane without a parachute.
There are many times that "Never" is the correct response. This vax has proven to be of no value whatsoever, for ANYONE. The notion that "it would have been worse if they hadn't been vaxxed" is simply sophistry. There is zero data to demonstrate that such a statement is anything but made up out of whole cloth.
The vax is a therapeutic at best and if compared to other therapeutics. it has been found seriously wanting in both safety and efficacy terms.
I totally agree. I also don’t think it should even be called a “vaccine”. There was no way any data could be useful from the initial (very short running) trials given the tiny risk of symptomatic infection in all groups regardless. High dose Vitamin D supplementation probably has more efficacy in this regard if it was studied. It’s totally insane. The whole thing. And it’s not just this vaccine. All the new “vaccines”. The “autoimmune” diseases in kids now and the autism/adhd is just insane. I know some of it is “seek and he shall find” but ER patients for “allergies” in kids here in the U.K. is just skyrocketing. Has been for the last few years. It’s measurable.
Even the CDC realized it shouldn't be called a vaccine, that's why they changed the definition. After the Covid-19 vaccines were introduced, and it was discovered they do not necessarily "prevent disease" or "provide immunity," the CDC altered the definition to say:
"Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease."
The sad irony is that we now know they don't "produce protection" either. So look for the CDC to "evolve" the definition further. Maybe something like...
"Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce large profits for Big Pharma. If said introduction also provides some level of protection from symptoms for a few months, all the better."
That's where the lawsuits should be aimed. Certainly there must be contractual agreements that have been affected by that change of definition. ATF can't just change the definition of the word "Firearm" without going through a very lengthy and public process. The definition of Vaccine should be forced back to what it was by a federal judge until such time as parties affected by the change can rewrite their contracts. Say 5 years.
Except they KNEW that the clinical trials were NOT designed to prevent transmission. Rather to reduce severity/death outcomes. (the manufacturers' websites explained this clearly) They lied from the get go and got caught in the act. That's when they decided to change the definition.
700,000 Americans died of covid, so far, allegedly. If the vax had been released sooner, many of them would have survived. Some it wouldn't have helped, their immune system too weak to respond to the vax. Most of us did not die, did not need the vax. The failure of the government, and of many observers, is not analyzing their need for protection. I got a mild case in December, before the vax was available, so I know I don't need it. Many don't know, and the corrupt government doesn't care. Certainly, no one who doesn't need it should get it. Some do need it.
Everyone considering vax should get an antibody test first. Cheap and easy. If you have antibodies, the vax won't help. You're okay. Thousands still die every day. some vaxed, some not. Some of the unvaxed deaths would have been avoided by vax. For them, "no one" was the wrong answer.
Agree that anyone who has natural immunity should not get the vax, this is true of any vaccine.
I can't agree that an earlier rollout of the mRNA therapeutic would have done anything but harm. You can't vaccinate your way out of a pandemic, even with a real vaccine, much less this poison.
The pandemic was effectively over prior to the vax rollout. But now, we are dealing with the Pfizer variant, which will never go away.
By they way, the 600K (or whatever number is the death count de jour) is not even close. Yes, people died but we now know that hospitals were mis-categorizing HOW they died. Furthermore, a huge percentage of those who died over the last 18 months OF Covid, could have been saved with Ivermectin, HCQ, and boosted immune systems.
The vax induces antibodies, which would have saved many victims. Not all. The vax causes harm to a very few. Remember billions of doses have been administered, and only thousands of reported harms. Perspective. Zero risk does not exist. No safe spaces.
The vax does induce some antibody response, unfortunately, it is the wrong kind. The kind you definitely don't want.
It is likely that over 200,00 people have been killed by the jabs, probably more since only <95% of adverse reactions are reported to the VAERS system.
There is a huge increase in unexplained cancer diagnoses, heart conditions are spiking, etc. None of these are being reported because nurses and doctors will lose their jobs if they do.
The problem is basing your opinion on 'reported harms'. Nothing is reported when all the doctors know it's safe and effective. I know multiple people that had bad reactions - none of their doctors would acknowledge the shot did it. Two of the injured weren't even willing to consider the shot was to blame even though they were all negative health developments seemingly out of nowhere. The only way to know how common damage is would be to do blood tests to see what's happening, which a handful of rogue doctors have done at great risk.
They've messed with data collection from the start, including corrupting the control groups. And they stopped counting covid from vax-failures - I mean, 'breakthru cases' except some of the hospitalized and dead.
Here's one for you. Dr. Henry Ealy, who is also successfully treating vax injured, reported on a soft audit done of covid death stats in San Jose and Alameda counties in CA. They counted 23-24% of the listed covid deaths had 'comorbidities' like gunshots and car accidents. Those were not covid deaths.
With their gaslighting, lies and shell games, we can know very little for certain, which is what they want.
If you look at the death certs, they likely say death by gunshot with additional condition of covid. The problem is sometimes manipulated records to maximize payments, but usually it's the manipulation of statistics to politicize the outcomes. You're right we'll never know exactly what happened, but researchers will scour the records and improve the analysis.
How do you know some of the unvaxxed deaths would have been avoided by vax? How could you know? A titers test would be better than an antibody test correct or are they the same thing?
I know how vaccines work, and immune systems. The stats we're given are averages, with a broad range of underlying physiologies. Many have strong immune health and don't benefit from the vax. Some are too weak to produce the necessary immune response from the vax, and don't benefit from the vax. Some are weaker, and thus have greater risk from the virus but less vax response so if the get enough boost from the vax to help. So certainly some are helped. A few people have risk from the vax itself for reasons we don't understand yet. So we have uncertainties in vax benefits and vax risks, but evidence that billions have been vaxed without apparent problems. The vax has no warranty. We don't either. Risk management is what differentiates successful people from the unsuccessful.
The question is... based on the evidence supporting the extremely low risk of injury/death from the virus. Should a person take a jab that was released for political reasons? Remember Trump pulled out every barrier he could to get this jab out to the public as quickly as possible. Now, Biden is promoting the jab that Trump made happen and that he said he would never support. That alone screams for a halt and deep research. Now, you are basing your support of the jab on reports that are shrouded in a political agenda coming from people supported by big pharma money and who need funding for future projects. I just don't see how you can talk so highly of the jab. After lie upon lie. miscalculation reports, fake calculation admissions, and false information have been brought to light through admission and evidence. Pile that with the fact that Congress and other governmental agencies will not be mandated to get jabbed but private companies will be mandated to jab their employees or fire them. Trust the political jab or take their chance with the virus? How can you speak highly of a jab brought about under these circumstances? I cannot trust it. I'm not saying it's wrong to trust it, I have friends and family that do and took the jab. I just don't understand how a seemingly educated intelligent person looking at both sides of the argument, such as you seem to be, doesn't have trust issues with it to the point of saying don't do it. For now, at least.
Getting these shots marketed as vaccines was an incredible coup for big pharma. All the assumptions and understandings of the safety and efficacy of prior vaccines do not apply to the covid shots. It's so ridiculously ineffective, they changed the definition of immunity and vaccines! Straight out of 1984. And for the pharma companies that chose to use the dead and weakened versions of the virus (like traditional vaccines) - they're ignoring a horrible track record for prior coronavirus vaccine attempts. As for risk management - literally zero long term data, but extrapolating the safety record of prior vaccines. And now mix and match, because why not? This is pure insanity.
Your words again: Risk management is what differentiates successful people from the unsuccessful. Obviously it's not about all people to you, just successful ones, or not.
I know a person that was in a weakened comorbid state that was given the vax on his way out of the hospital, and was in a coma and on a ventilator within 24 hours. The doctor refused to acknowledge it was the shot - since vaccine reactions 'are usually within the first 2-4 hours'. Even if you're the most vulnerable to covid, the shots have serious risk and zero long-term data. Safe and effective early treatment is the right strategy for everyone.
Are you talking about the coma outside of that 2-4 hour window being a black swan event? I think he just made up the 2-4 hour window nonsense. They refuse to acknowledge anything that challenges the idea these shots are safe, and will come up with any excuse. Young and healthy people developing heart problems or suffering aneurysms a few weeks or months after the shots - maybe these would have been black swans against original vaccines, but not the clot shot.
Anaphylactic shock post-vax happens quickly. Strokes and heart failure, and many other major adverse reactions happen within 2 days up to 2 weeks. Some will take a bit longer than that.
That would explain why my OB/GYN very gingerly discussed vaccination. She didn’t ask me directly if I was going to get the vaccine, she just said a little prehearsed spiel and then, “do you want more information on getting the vaccine?” I felt confident saying no, and it was never discussed again.
Disagree Dave, no one. You surely saw the earlier article that this poison damages antibody production to the Nucleocapsid? Plus the collective harm because high uptake of the shots make covid much worse? Whatever benefit they demonstrate by pulling data through a keyhole is tainted and skewed to benefit the vax, and even with all the BS, it isn't enough. We get the all-or-nothing logical fallacy, but it doesn't apply here.
Every medicine has a little poison. It's how they work. Most notoriously, cancer meds. Sometimes they work, and if they fail it's catastrophic for the patient. Some people need the vax. Most don't. Accepting it, or not, is optional, despite coercion. Some submit to coercion more easily than others. Their choice.
It would violate the 5th amendment and several other parts of the Constitution so is unlikely to ever be attempted. Coercing employers to fire employees is as egregious and is being litigated.
Dear Mr. Sir, I'm afraid you just completely invalidated all of your prior attempts to be the "reasonable and smart" guy on this issue. The idea that coercion would be "egregious" and unConstitutional and therefore would never happen may be true in the cerebral version of a lab inside your mind. Out here in the actual world coercion is constant and relentless, backed by explicit threats of unemployment, shaming, and exclusion from society. Dismissing it altogether is like ignoring VAERS, which for all its faults is still screaming DANGER DANGER. You might also join a Telegram channel or two with frontline workers: they get the raw data and experience before it gets completely censored and misclassified and ignored. Based on what these frontline people are saying as many as one in four hospital admissions may implicate the vax as a factor: wouldn't it be swell to know more? The analogy is Kabul: three weeks before the disaster the people on the ground were screaming "Um sir we're seeing lots and lots of Taliban everywhere!". By the time that data arrived at Biden and the generals it became "Everything's great sir full steam ahead!". With the entirely predictable result, predetermined by the completely constipated flow of good and accurate information from the continent of RealWorldia. Even if we had a health system animated not by money but by health they would not have anything like the accurate information that is required in order to make these monumental life and death decisions, instead we get one of the FDA officials this week voting on the boosters, QUOTE: "we're never going to learn about how safe this vaccine is unless we start giving it". In Actual World this gentleman would be dismissed immediately and sent to an illustrious career in timeshare sales...but he would most definitely NOT be holding the lives of millions in his hands, no, never, nah, nope, no thanks, no way. The moral of the tale is that science and censorship do not mix: the latter completely invalidates the very basis of the former and turns it into a religion. And we don't build our airplanes, and shouldn't manage the lives of our citizenry, based on the utterances of priests.
Why would one take the shot now when the structure of virus has changed? It is useless at this point. The vaccine was specific for the original strain.
The pro vax argument is the current strain is never the only strain, and old vax may prevent a few infections, but certainly the odds are good this one-size-fits-all vax is less likely to work. It's why they produce a new flu vax every year. Some work, sometimes, some don't. The main thing I've learned from this sorry episode is my innate immune system is pretty strong. I won't get a covid vax, nor any more flu vax. I should have figured it out sooner. I've gotten flu vax every 3 or 4 years, never got flu. Mostly I get them when a cute nurse wanted to caress my bicep. Always worth a try.
Well said. Friend is elderly with years of bone cancer, he was first in line for the fax and the booster because he is in immediate danger. It makes sense for him even with the long term risks, he doesn't have that long anyway. We should have all been left to make this decision for ourselves.
As a person with cancer, I would NEVER get the vax now that we know that it appears to damage your immune response. Dr Cole has addressed this phenomenon on multiple occasions.
If you don't want to damage your immune system, don't take drugs that will destroy it. In any case that's my motto. ;-)
Unfortunately for the severely immunocompromised, vax is less effective. They need other protections. Vax is simply a stimulus to the immune system to generate antibodies without the risk of live pathogen. In this case, the vax induces antigenic proteins which healthy immune systems respond to with antibodies. Those who respond strongest to the vax would also respond strongly to the virus. Those who have the strongest or the weakest immune systems don't get much benefit. Those in between get a boost that might make a difference.
The first mistake is assuming doctors, especially bureaucrats who haven't treated patients since residency, are somehow omniscient and benevolent. They all have useful skills, but all are limited, and all care more about their own bottom line than yours. The bigger problem is patient competence, not doctor competence. We all have responsibilities to understand what any employee tells us. Those who don't understand are less likely to get the results they want.
That sure has some validity. The elite use movies like the one you mentioned to telegraph where they are taking us (or would like to) so that we accept it as an eventual reality. We must resist the rise of the Antichrist kingdom unto death, i know i will.
It's an evil synergy how these industries support each other. And the vast majority of doctors know absolutely nothing about diet or nutrition. Totally unrelated to health, right?
So true about how Western Allopathic doctors only know about giving drugs and operations etc like Rockefeller taken-over medicine teaches them and not all that much about diet and nutrition.
Years ago I remember John Oliver or someone like that railing against pregnancy mortality rates in the US - 3rd world tier in some poorer areas. Solution of course is send them more federal money. 100% never mentioned was the fact those horrible statistics were directly related to morbid obesity.
Question: What do I say to friends who tell me they're excited about being able to vax their toddler or 6 year old? I want to say “Thalidomide also sounded like it wouldn't hurt anyone … “ but I just keep quiet, which doesn't make me feel okay. Because these rabid child vaxxers think the unvaxxed are the enemies of their children. I keep waiting for the poor Beagle puppies to awaken the soccer moms and dads.
Same situation. A co-worker said something along these lines in a meeting and it was affirmed by another. I didn't say anything -- I never engage my co-workers on anything remotely political because as far as I'm concerned they're all lunatics.
On the one hand, I doubt you'd budge someone already contemplating doing this to their kid. They're beyond the bend. On the other hand, it reinforces the idea that everyone is in agreement with this insanity. Some who may not have done it to their kid, might.
Pointing out kids cannot benefit from the jab (because they're already as zero risk from covid), while also assuming all the unknowable risk of the injections, is such an obvious cost/benefit calculation that it's sure to not work on these people. So, to answer your question, "No idea".
My coworkers are lunatics too. Last week one was going on about how he can't wait to give his kids the "safe and effective" vaccines so they can stay at a hotel ... today a healthy 32 year old called out sick because the booster shot left him in serious pain. Said he's going to take a sleeping pill and try to rest ....
I really didn't think people could get more insane than they have been ... but this is just bonkers. What the hell is going on?
It is so hard to keep my mouth shut. Was talking to this women who has been waiting for months to vaccinate her 9 and.6 year old boys and she told me her pediatrician said "why wouldn't you?" Anyone who has personally asked us about our kids (and I honestly cannot believe we've gotten to the point where someone feels it's ok to ask this during small talk) we've said "No, not enough data and the data that we've seen does not look good".
My wife and I have the exact same conversation...every day. We have 5 kids and they'll have to drag me through the streets before I let them near my wife and children. I'm amazed that we are in this position.
My husband and I just had this conversation this morning. We moved from Atlanta to Connecticut last year (ugh, ugh, ugh) But the people in both areas are really similar (a lot of finance professionals/lawyers/cpas, etc). The Atlanta people were way more laid back throughout, but they did seem to all rush out and get vaccinated just like the Connecticut people. I think these people have followed the rules their whole lives and it's led to a comfortable life/success so this is all just one more rule following exercise for them.
I usually try the "but kids aren't at risk for serious Covid, the flu is more dangerous according to the CDC and every other authority. We do know there is a risk for heart inflamation from these vaccines, acccording to the same authorities. It might be a small possibility, it might not ... we just don't know yet. We need long term studies. So why take the risk?
Live at the FDA meeting: A scientist just pointed out that, under one scenario presented in the data, more children will be hospitalized with heart inflammation from the vaccine than they will be from the virus. The Pfizer rep. answers that, if that happens, it will still be well worth it to vaccinate all the kids, since they will be able to help protect the vulnerable, attend school in-person, etc. In other words, "societal benefits."
I would like the Pfizer rep to explain exactly how vaccinated children protect the vulnerable? They might for a short while and then the vulnerable are rolling the dice. Maybe the vulnerable should stay home, get healthy, research treatment options, save $700 for the Merck drug.... almost any plan would be better than simply associating with a building full of people that can spread the virus pretending that they can't.
The problem is Rob, that EVERYONE is vulnerable when they are around a recently vaxxed person. It has been shown that people recently jabbed can carry huge viral loads if infected and not even be symptomatic. Furthermore, they can shed the spike protein in their breath and through bodily fluids including perspiration.
This is undoubtedly why the pandemic continued rather than turning endemic as it was appearing to do before they rolled out the mRNA tech.
This is turning out to be a pandemic of the foolishly vaccinated.
I have lost a lot of faith in the medical profession. I don't understand why doctors are encouraging anyone with a low risk to get vaccinated, much less children with practically zero risk. Many doctors seem unable to perform a cost-benefit analysis. How is it that someone (me) that lacked the motivation to make an 8am Chem class in college, has the motivation to inform myself today and they do not. Perhaps they are unwilling or too scared to go against the crowd. From my perspective, the only reason to get vaccinated will be if those in power completely screw things up with mass vaccinations and create a Marek effect. And God help us if that happens.
It's mass hysteria. Mob mentality. Thomas in thecampaign.substack.com discussed this recently, citing "The Crowd" by Gustave Le Bon in 1895. It's the downside of human nature. Important that we prepare for mobs, they've always appeared when we least want them.
I actually think it has more to do with people not willing to take responsibility for their own decisions and what that inevitably leads to. Notice I used the word "will" and not want. It's about surrendering free will because it's too hard, both from within and without. Any sane person that digs into the plethora of information that is now available regarding the experimental gene therapy vaccine is not going to want it inside of themselves or their children. But it's just so much more comforting and easy to listen to the "experts." It's like this huge lesson that keeps being presented to us every single day, year, century... on both the micro and macro levels. Everytime we fail to rise to the occasion, the stakes just get higher and higher. There is so much comfort for people in declining that responsibility and just accepting what this or that "authority" or expert tells us to do. But sooner or later, the piper comes calling and demands remuneration for the time spent in comfortable delusion. Even if an individual somehow escapes the piper, it may well be his beloved children that he watches pay the price. That's why I think, if we do get to a mob stage, the mob will be gunning for the experts on this one.
Yes. And likely some just read the clinical trials and that was it. Others may lack the curiosity or the time. And going along with "the crowd" is just easier.
I think they are in a very difficult position, mortgages, children, etc. I think there will be a time in each of our lives, if it hasn't already happened, no matter what our profession or situation in life, that we will have to stand up, and in doing so risk our health, our income, our safety, etc. I hope everyone is preparing themselves for that day so they will make the honorable choice.
FWIW, I live in a very blue town in a very blue state. During a telemedicine appointment my doctor asked if I was vaccinated and I said no (it was relevant to the possible condition I was being seen for.) He didn't even try to persuade me to get it or anything. Didn't bring it up again. I was really surprised.
The typical response you'll get is that Drs don't want to lose their jobs.
Of course, some are willing to fight back but not nearly enough. If nurses, dock workers, pilots, and truckers can stand up to the Biden Admin and the healthcare establishment, so can docs. In fact, if anyone has the power to end this nightmare, it would be doctors acting with some testosterone and make bullies like Fauci pay.
Doctors having some of the highest uncancelable student loans which makes them a lot more vulnerable to coercion, especially with medical boards threatening to take away their ability to work.
Imagine all the groups that wrote your textbooks and govern your industry declare that the science is settled - safe and effective! Who are you to question them?? That's not how you get through the modern education system. I suspect it's willful and unwillful blindness and horribly misplaced trust.
Become a nurse advocate and help people find and fight for better healthcare in a broken system. If you're in a big city - being able to point sick clients to which clinics/hospitals are still providing decent service would be an invaluable service. Along those lines - I wish there was a way to find out hospital kill rates when it comes to covid. Would be amazingly helpful to know which places are doing an incredible job at saving people, and which are just killing everyone.
but they deny the risk, thus the no choice. How do we get them to admit to the risks? How do we convince the brainwashed of the risks? I think at this point we can only sit back and watch.
Ben @ USmortality is clearly showing a significant increase in all cause death in 21-50 year olds. Both in Europe and the US. He has also posted some prelim analysis that shows that the excess deaths are linked to the jabs. This is unreal - and to give kids these jabs, this makes no sense whatsoever. If we move forward, it will be the worst public health decision to be made in the history of our country.
It's all by design to move forward, why? Silent weapons for quiet wars, quiet weapons for silent wards = depopulation = see George Guidestons "commandment" number 1.
have you ever contemplated why you would think that an object in the world is 'beyond crazy'? What does that even mean? May be worth working that out.
One of my favourite quotes ever is from Michael Ruppert RIP
"when you realise the world is run as a criminal enterprise, it all starts to make sense"
I often point out the reverse side of the same idea to people
"Until you realise that the world is run as a criminal enterprise, nothing seems to make sense" How many times have you heard about senseless violence? How many people say this or that gov action 'doesn't make sense' Maybe they aren't doing what they say they are doing.
Why is there no anger towards Dr. Feces. By anyone. He funded this research and now the world is shut down, people are losing their jobs, kids are masked and being forced vaxed. Dr. Feces should be hung from the highest tree.
Alex, it would be valued if you could write a post to try to convince parents to not vaccinate their kids yet. Something rhetorically designed to be most effective on the people who are probably going to do it, but amenable to at least delaying it. Maybe even a video is better than a post.
Something basically we can send to people. I was going to send this, but I think I probably only have one shot to try to convince certain people to delay, and want to make sure I send the very best, most convincing item. Buying time is the name of the game here.
You could show them the work of Dr. Yeadon former Phizer chief scientist who is against injecting the children with toxic poison securing their lifelong client status to Big-Pharma suffering and accelerated death.
your lips to God's ears my friend! fully prepared to homeschool if it ever gets that out of control here in TX. Big Pharma and corrupt governments are not the answer and not the way.
Intelligence is genetic. Home schooled kids likely have smarter parents. Most parents are incapable of home schooling, for the same reason they're incapable of determine their risks. Remember that half of the population is below average.
Intelligence is not genetic, God/Jesus makes that clear, intelligence is spirit based, not matter based, watch this and see why your position is founded upon an inherently seriously flawed understanding of the nature of reality you exist in;
You seem to be confusing intelligence, the capability to learn, with wisdom, the results of learning. An AI running on a PC is less intelligent than an AI running on an IBM supercomputer. They named theirs "Watson" probably wasn't because of me.
Did you watch what i kindly asked you to watch what i did before replying? Since considering the time i left the message your response back, suggests you didn't.
Geert Vanden Bossche made the very salient point that children are also critical virus sinks/dampers as once exposed they contribute to herd immunity. We can’t have that can we? $$$
Agreed, we are supposed to be the crazy ones warning of these things for years (i've been warning/informing of this for at least almost 20 years), and yet you have the George Guidestones "commandment" number 1 laying it right out and so many other elite preaching their depopulation because we are "useless eaters" when God made this earth to be HUGE and claiming we are overpopulated is nothing but profound lies of satan, which of course all those who serve him know the Devil desires blood sacrifice to give them power and control. A growing darker evil world as Jesus foretold will occur before He returns and finally sets things straight for eternity.
I read the eugyppius article this morning. It is one of the best that I have read to date, hopefully helping those to better understand how viruses work. I have been saying this since March for 2020,Protect the elderly and the immune compromised individuals from the cytokine storm! We would have been over and done with this already and SARS Covid-2 would have fallen into the "seasonal flu" category.
Don't be afraid to homeschool. In 1986 when my first was born, I read John Holt's book Teach Your Own, and it changed my life. My husband and I homeschooled our four children all the way through high school, ending in 2018, and all four went on to win scholarships to college and full rides to grad school and law school. The best gift is that all of my school-age grandchildren are being homeschool! Being a homeschooling parent isn't easy, but parenting is never easy. Never allow your school, church, or the government to take away your God-given right to raise your children as you see fit. Homeschooling has always had many benefits, and now, more than ever, it's a great option. Find other like-minded parents, so you don't have to go it alone, and take the plunge. It will probably be the best decision you ever made.
Several years ago, I hired a young woman who had been home schooled. She was BY FAR the best employee I've ever hired. Not only was she well educated, she was responsible, professional, cooperative, and a "self-starter." On top of that, she had a wonderful personality so she got along well with her co-workers.
Imagine what our workforce would be like if there were more people like this young woman!
Regarding all that we --as mere laypersons-- know about this virus, the most optimistic explanation for this worldwide "vaccine" push is due to the hubris of man. Unfortunately, the more likely reason: the scientists/politicians/PTBs are pushing this, fully cognizant of its dire implications.
Yes, the more likely reason which is the actual reason, is that that they know fully what they are doing on purpose to make billions via reoccurring revenue to reduce the population. See Georgia Guidestones "commandment" number 1.
My kids are not vaccinated and they are not getting vaccinated. Fortunately they already have their early childhood vaccinations. My daughter would be due for guardasil in a few years, but pre-Covid, we had in our will that even if we die she is not to get that one.
We are raising them Catholic and they go to a conservative private Christian school. We aren’t getting them vaccinated for this, and will turn the reigns over to them down the road having years of preparation for them to have a legitimate religious exemption should they choose to use it.
Real freedom only comes from freedom from government. Whatever it takes, get your kids out of public school!!!
To summarize the above article. Mess with the immune system with experimental vaccines and the immune system gets messed up and creates much larger health problems. Don't vaccinate!
A very informative write. Thanks Having been on the Air Force for over 20 years, I was "mandated" the flue shot every year, and 11 of those years I still got the "flu". No "vaccines" or flu shots for me for the last (retired) 20 years, and I only got the flu 3 times. Go figure
Annual Vaccines for RNA viruses (FLU & now Covid) promote pathogenic priming.....the more you Vax the more sick you'll become. NIH actually has studies to this effect; I'm not sure any in charge ever reads them, though!
Agree 1000%. Vaccinating not-at-risk children to "protect grandma" (even though it doesn't) is a horrific inversion of culture. Children are the future. We need to do whatever it takes protect them. Not the other way around.
Unrelated, but I would like to suggest to Alex a brief piece that definitively details who / what orgs in the government are EXEMPT from the fake Biden mandates. Any upvotes?
It is very sad, but at this point the overwhelming reason the powers to be are mandating this for our children and our future, is money! Did everyone see Rogen coming out and saying his Dr has helped over 200 congressman take Ivermectin?
It's not about money for those who own the machines that print the money. Here's some help;
If you know anything about the NWO + Big-Pharma etc, you will know that they *DO* know what they are doing and *DO* know of the adverse and severe adverse reactions / devastating consequences etc. This is all about depopulation, always (See Georgia Guidestones "commandment" number 1). So of course this about harming all ages especially the children, it's all about power and control over mankind, this is reality.
Well i'm only sharing what i know to be factual. Glad to see you know this also. You are right also on the Ivermectin... here's something to consider: Ivermectin is anti-parasitical... isn't it interesting, if you do some competent criticdal reasoned digging, that apparently in some of the shots, it is alleged they are finding supposedly genetically modified nano-parasites?
You are indeed right. Some Dr. Flemming who was on half-truth teller Alex Jones, stated there is no graphene oxide in it and i thought kind of "wait a second, i've seen videos with Karen Kingston a former Pfizer employee who provides evidence there *IS* graphene oxide in the shots, why is he claiming different? And this doctor was indeed exposing the evil of all this push for shots, specifically pointing out what happens to the blood cells and why people are having lack of breath etc, and yet said his team found no evidence of graphene in the shots, like come on man.
In addition to the Original Antigenic Sin, the reports of issues affecting menstrual cycles of young women are concerning. Providing this vaccine to young, pre-pubescent females could have unknown devastating consequences. The vaccine risk seems to clearly outweigh any benefit for children.
"Providing this vaccine to young, pre-pubescent females could have unknown devastating consequences."
Could? If you know anything about the NWO + Big-Pharma etc, you will know that they *DO* know what they are doing and *DO* know of the adverse and severe adverse reactions / devastating consequences etc. This is all about depopulation, always (See Georgia Guidestones "commandment" number 1). So of course this about harming all ages especially the children, it's all about power and control over mankind, this is reality.
Yeah but the guide stones also say, “Balance personal rights with social duties” and “ Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.” And “Prize truth....etc.” ?
You clearly missed how the first commandment is utterly satanic depopulation agenda and their supposed noble ideals are basically laying out the typical utter diabolic lies of a utopian society where you will be microchipped like a dog so you can be tracked everywhere you go with your money on your chip to which if you make them mad they just turn off the chip and you can't buy food, and thus you will be ruled over by authoritarian diabolists (New World Order realisation) in the Communist and/or Socialist technocracy. You should do some serious research on who put those stones there and what their views were, here's a hint, they were Freemasons, here's some help;
I get that. I see you are right about the first commandment of the stones, but the first doesn’t stand alone, it’s part and parcel of all of them. Why would they include “balance personal rights” when clearly the order of the day is to steamroll over personal rights for the supposed common good?
A night on the town can affect menstrual cycles, and often has consequences. We should never make decisions based on unknown risks. The problem is the corrupt medical industry actively avoids characterizing risks, or benefits, of any treatments for this routine virus.
I am live-blogging the FDA's hearing right now on Pfizer's request for authorization of its Covid-19 vaccine in the 5-11 age group. So far what is clear that the only adverse event the FDA is even mildly interested in is heart inflammation, and on that the agency's scientists really have no idea what the long-term effects will be for children.
Beyond that, the sample size that Pfizer used for its clinical trial was far too small. There is no way to gauge either the risks or the benefits from this trial. There were no cases of severe illness in either the vaccinated or the unvaccinated in the trial. Hardly a sweeping endorsement for the vaccine.
It does look like the fix is in. Some of the senior people resigned a few months ago. Then multiple countries announced they were buying millions of doses. All this before the safety testing was even reviewed. I work in biomed and I have never seen anything like this. It is crazy.
True, but you also have to consider we have had many doctors and nurses already showinig through their own testimony that these injections are dangerous and killshots.
Thank you for sharing this Eric and your testimony... we are so heading into such a dark time, the rise of the Antichrist kingdom and many shall perish resisting it.
The "safety data" deliberately kept the sample so small that they were able to declare something to the effect of "the sample is too small to gauge the impact of myocarditis". If they FDA doesn't stand up to this and make them run a much larger trial they have blood on their hands.
Well stated, and i would like to add, FDA has their hands covered in blood already so adding more blood will only be discernible by it being more fresh.
Here's an answer from God/Jesus through one of His Apostles;
1Timothy 4:1-2: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;...."
You see that part about seared consciences with a hot iron? The same applies to FDA, that they can sleep at night because of how seared their consciences are with a hot iron, they are dead in their conscience.
Looks like Fauci is going to get his wish. This vaccine will be approved for the 5 to 11 age group today. A vaccine for infants, toddlers, and preschoolers will follow shortly. Consequently, there will be no control group for comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated, which is Fauci's greatest fear. You can read about it here:
There are a lot of us in the control group and hopefully parents won’t be stupid about this and blindly vaccinate their kids. If I had to do it all over again, I would NOT put 1 vaccine in my kid’s bodies. Who’s to say that all the vaccines we have received over the years haven’t caused various health problems we are experiencing today as adults?
I always thought my wife was paranoid about vaccines. Now I think she was right all along. I work in biomed by the way so you don't want to lose people like me. But now I question the whole schedule. The vaccine blowback has begun.
We compromised and did not start the normal vaccine schedule until age 14. We had experienced many parents complain about infant reactions to vaccines so we decided to wait until the kids immune systems were more established. Since the actual risk from any of the diseases that were being vaccinated against was so low, felt it was an acceptable tradeoff. Now this Covid gene therapy, over my dead body with that be injected in our kids.
Yes. We also delayed. I was sympathetic to the reluctance to give so many jabs before 18 months, it seems incredibly reckless. When she still wanted to delay after 5 or 6 I thought she was being paranoid. But I no longer think that. The longstanding attenuated virus vaccines sure. But there turn out to be many on the schedule that are not like that! And I think they should all be thrown in the trash.
I feel I always have to apologize to at least Alex for the contents of my comments because they are very negative and cynical. That said, I can’t imagine why people don’t see the agenda of the Democrats/ Left. They haven’t killed enough people with Covid outright, they see it’s taking too long to kill people with vaccines/boosters, so now they’re going to starve us, freeze us to death, and pervasively crush hope and faith and encourage people to commit suicide.
Many I read here continually underestimate the absolute vile despicable agendas of sociopaths, they never relent.
As I’ve been writing here of late, there are many CATS here, and frankly, you need to run away, with the horrific despicable leftists, so shoo…
I agree completely. I'm amazed at how naïve I was just last year. I thought this whole Covid plandemic was about an election, how ignorant I was not seeing the big picture. What I used to think were conspiracy theories and crazy talk have become reality. What is happening today is not just about evil pharma greed or government incompetence. It is way more sinister and diabolical than that. If we don't recognize what we are fighting, we can't fight this and we won't survive. This is evil pure and simple. We are dealing with sociopaths and the entire world population is about to be enslaved into a world where peasants like us have will have no rights, no freedoms, no autonomy, and no property. If we do not protect these innocent children from these criminals, it will be the end of Western civilization. This is the hill we die on folks.
Our corporate HR person got a heads-up on the vax mandate under exec branch letterhead late last year. The letter said the administration would "stand behind" decisions made by companies to encourage the vaccinations, saying they were safe and effective and most employees would be willing to get the vaccine.
What this HR person told me is that the nationwide push-back against mandatory vaccination was something not expected by the administration. They thought everyone would be willing to get jabbed given how "deadly" they were told the virus was.
My suspicion is that, while Big Pharma knew that the vaccines might not be fully effective, they hoped they would be MOSTLY effective, and convinced Biden, et. al. that there was nothing to worry about. Further, that as the initial jab effectiveness waned, they had boosters ready to go and that they too would be welcomed by the public.
Turns out that half of America never bought the con. So now they are scrambling to figure out how to convince people that this is an "epidemic of the unvaccinated".
Of course, the wheels are coming off that bus too.
That said, do the math of recent polling of Biden approval: assume 80% of the voters in 2020 were Demoncraps, so that is about 60+ million cretins, then the 75% who are fully behind Dementor makes it 45 million.
That means AT LEAST 45 million are willing to kill any and all on that hill, that is conservatively 15% of inhabitants on this soil.
I think it more, at least 20-25% hate this country so much, taking lives is superfluous to them.
Evil: relentless lying, shameless soulless hypocrisy, causing decay destruction and death, showing no remorse for consequences caused, and mocking and disdaining healthy accepted boundaries set by society for generations.
Watch out for them CATS of Conservatives/ Republicans/ cowards and aconfrontationalists. Civil Acquiescing Tolerant Stooges…
The way we fight back is to first get the RINOs in red state legislatures to get off their rear-ends and go back into special sessions to hold hearings, end mandates, hold local medical and pharmacy boards accountable for their mis-deeds, and so on.
I was really disheartened when I heard that Texas decided to do nothing about this in their last special session. At this rate, Texas going to go blue in the next presidential election I'm afraid.
Look at Gavin Newsom. He mandated the Covid vaccine for all kids including kindergarteners before the EUA is even available, but his own 12 year old child has not been jabbed. Congress and the Judiciary are exempt from vaccine mandates.
They are not jabbing themselves or their kin. And who is orchestrating all this? The WEF or World Economic Forum. These people have said publicly what their goal is - one world government where no one will have private property and a zero cash society. World leaders across the globe are talking about "Build Back Better". Look at what's happening in Australia with their "isolation" camps and the vaccine passports in Europe. I used to think all this was crazy talk. But, when evil people tell you what their plans are, you should believe them.
Thank you. I’m having a hard time with it I guess because I can’t wrap my head around it. You have one set of people saying be rebellious and start and family and then it makes me think why would you ever want to bring a child or have a grandchild in this world.
I regret choosing not to do it, (bring a child into this world) (or more accurately the world of the eighties and nineties, which now seems idillic and mystical from here in 2021) now I am too old. I was a member of the human extinction movement, but I was wrong.
The killing spree by the "healthcare" establishment is not limited to the denial of treatments or the vax and the boosters. If people have not heard Daniel Horowitz' interview with Dr. Brian Ardis (Ep 978) on Remdesivir. I highly recommend it.
We've heard more and more reports that Remdesivir can damage kidneys but the sad truth turns out to be that Fauci knew this before it was even rolled out as the only treatment in hospitals.
Remdesivir has a tragic safety record and was even trialed in Africa against Ebola along with 3 other monoclonal therapies. Remdesivir had the worst mortality rate of the 4 yet it was the one that Fauci claimed was safe and effective. He knew this and yet lied to the public about its record.
Of course, it's been clear for a long time that Fauci makes Mengele look like Mother Teresa, but now we know that the hospitals all know that Remdesivir kills too so they are just as culpable.
Whatever you do, don't go into the hospital unless you must. Certainly don't go in if you have Covid-like symptoms. You won't get treated. You will be offed.
Faux-i is a sociopathic narcissistic 💩bag. Trump should have canned him, but, ALL our “leaders” are selfish ignorant uncaring personality disordered cretins who want power and accolades, and now decimate those who these scum deem irrelevant inconsequential and disposable.
Don't you mean, Trump should never have hired him in the first place?
Fauci had been notoriously wrong on a wide variety of healthcare issues for years, including his AIDS treatment debacle. Trump knew this (or should have known).
Trump's one smart move was bringing in Scott Atlas but then Trump stabbed him in the back later (as he had a wont to do on so many occasions with other qualified people.)
Imagine if Atlas had been allowed to run the show. He could have shown Fauci and Birx the door and we wouldn't be in this mess today.
Hey Fred, don't sugar-coat it. What do you REALLY think ;-)
Trump did several grievous errors regarding the pandemic (and I'll forgive him of his initial reaction since no one knew one way or the other what was going on with the CCP virus in February of 2020 except for Fauci and friends).
• He hired a known huckster, Fauci, to front the response.
• He pushed "Operation Warp Speed" which anyone with even a modicum of understanding of the drug development process would know was impossible.
• He indemnified Big Pharma against any liability, same for hospitals.
• He put in place huge bonuses for hospitals to administer the killer drug Remdesivir and to put patients on ventilators.
• After push-back from Fauci, et. al, he backed down on his plans to provide HCQ and other early treatments.
• He held ridiculous daily pressers that only magnified the fear porn that was already being pushed by the press. Instead of bringing in experts to talk about treatment and such, Trump himself would drone on and on to the press with nonsense.
• He allowed mail-in voting to proceed (yes, he had huge leverage to stop that abomination) even though smarter people were warning him in the summer that fraud would be rampant. He chose not to take action but instead, blustered on Twitter about it but that he was going to win "UGE" anyway.
Others can add to this list but Trump's many failures on this front are largely why we are where we are today.
Fine, but, Why Trump has no business even considering running again because he demands total fealty to his presence, and, he ain’t a good judge of character in the first place.
Yeah, choose between a narcissist vs a sociopath, why the last 2 elections were bypassed by me, NOT voting for evil and chaos with these Republ-ocrat scumbags…
I was never "anti-vax," but I certainly am now. I never distrusted doctors, the medical establishment, and government "science experts"---but I do now.
The delicacy of a child’s immune system is so compromised by the assault of existing mass vaccination programs. Now we have the ultimate—the Cod-19 shots—that hook many children and will cause damage, the extent of which we are yet to fathom.
Yes... well stated, it's all about lowering the world's population because the megalomaniacal rulers convince all the naive, unlearned fools that supposedly the earth is overpopulated.
The FDA is just a revolving door to a high paying job with Big Pharma. The FDA meeting today is Kabuki theater because they’re an instrumental part of the Plandemic and could care less about harming children.
The misunderstanding of the facts and realities displaying in this article are profound. Practically every rationale presented for vaccinating 5-11-year olds is erroneous. Just to give one quick example, she says kids should be vaccinated so they don't bring COVID home to adults. This is the equivalent of continuing to believe the sun goes around the earth.
Keep in mind the author is a licensed Pediatrician! The only people allowed to post to the site supposedly are other doctors. There's one mild rebuttal, but if anyone here is eligible to post to that site, this thinking must be confronted so that this Doctor's peers understand what is really at stake.
'It's impossible to get a man to understand something if his paycheck depends upon him not understanding it.' - a quote from someone a lot smarter than me made decades ago.
I'm in Washington State, and today I heard someone call it the Australia of the US, and they aren't wrong. Remember we are the home state of Bill and Melinda Gates, so not hard to figure out why we are going full Globalist Covid Tyranny. Thinking we will have to get in a car and leave everything behind or eventually be marched into Covid Camps?
His divorce is being handled in Seattle, WA, and I heard he is hiding out at his mansion in Indian Wells, CA. His family ties are here in WA, and his tentacles reach pretty far here.
Regarding kids, yes, if necessary move. Never would I vaccinate kids against this virus. But I think making a stand begins with adults. Once adults acquiesce, that is when those in power go after your kids. I truly think that the only way out of this situation is for people (whether vaccinated or not) to refuse to provide their vaccination status to their employers (see Chicago police). There is power in numbers. Asking for a medical or religious exemption gives your employer, locality, state power over you as an individual. I'm not subject to a mandate, but I really wish someone would take a case to the Supreme Court based on the fact that science does not support these mandates, much less mass vaccinations.
Why do you think the jurisdiction you move to won't become as tyrannical as the one you left? Running and hiding seldom gives the best outcomes. Learn to fight.
Depends on if you are invested in where you live. I live in California, but it is not my home nor does it share my values. If this happened where I grew up, then yes, I would stay and fight.
Again, not running because I am not invested in living in California for many reasons. Covid restrictions are just one more reason. I have wanted to move for many years.
Oh God, it was just approved for recommendation. What a disaster. I honestly thought there was some chance of pushback from the advisory committee; I know I’m hopelessly naive. I just want to weep. I have not been prone to conspiracy thinking — basically chalked this up to mob think, greed, power, but, damn, it’s hard not to think someone’s trying to harm us (!!) Sorry to go there! I might feel better about all this tomorrow, but today I’m heartbroken. And I’m going to have to figure out what to do in this city of folks cheering this news. 💔💔
Some charter schools and private schools will not enforce mandates so consider that before moving. They will not advertise obviously but you can ask. It's sort of like their policy on gender. Different from big public schools but don't advertise. So consider this option before picking up and moving if you can't. Our private school in Indiana went from 300 to over 400 in 1 year due to mandates gender CRT etc.
The immune system created by our Creator is far superior and more complicated than the greatest scientists can discern. A experienced physician and former professor at a well established medical school who very successfully treated my wife for migraines, looked at me one day and said, "Lee, we only know 1% about the human body". So we are risking lives on 1%!!
Maybe that doc only knows1%.Others know much more. Indeed, we know much more cumulatively than any single person can master alone. It's really important that we perfect AI assistants for doctors to do the resear h necessary for quicker diagnoses.
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
I would say that Donald Rumsfeld's well known quote is applicable to many fields, and most especially medicine.
An Ai assistant is only going to confuse matters.
Maybe in pure research but at the bedside never. There are about 115 studies published every hour of every day, not going to help to hear a summary of that while you are deciding what to do next.
Current AIs aren't up to the task. Soon. In a few years, most medical care will be by televisit with a computer, and most docs will work on improving the programming.
Thank you Alex for elevating the discussion from the gut level to the level where one can use one's brain. I want to add my two cents worth. Imho, vaccines must be used to protect individuals from a disease, not to protect a society from epidemic. The moment we forget this fundamental principle, we slide into the land of social (read socialist / fashist) behaviour, which inevitably leads to vaccinating kids who are not at risk from the disease, just to protect adults, who are afraid of it. I am not supportive of sacrificing my granddaughters on the altar of COVID religion. I will do all I can to not let it happen.
The arguments for vaccination are not rational, and rational response to irrational arguments have not been, nor will ever be effective. The only rational response is not argument, but litigation and resistance.
The best response to those who ask for rational arguments is, how has that worked so far? And why do you think trying the same approach again will give different results? In other words, don't be insane.
Covid "vaccines" all use nano technology. Nano technology is experimental. They're experimenting on kids. So what if it creates a life-long dependency; just means more money. It's what drug pushers do.
I really hope people get this. It's not "conspiracy theory" but a very real agenda rolling out in real time. People who think this madness is just mere incompetency or tyrants on a power trip are woefully ill-informed and wasting humanity's collective, precious time.
Investigative journalist Whitney Webb's following article is must-reading:
"This global health DARPA, known as Wellcome Leap, seeks to achieve “breakthrough scientific and technological solutions” by or before 2030, with a focus on “complex global health challenges.” The Wellcome Trust is open about how Wellcome Leap will apply the approaches of Silicon Valley and venture capital firms to the health and life science sector. Unsurprisingly, their three current programs are poised to develop incredibly invasive tech-focused, and in some cases overtly transhumanist, medical technologies, including a program exclusively focused on using artificial intelligence (AI), mobile sensors, and wearable brain-mapping tech for children three years old and younger.
"This Unlimited Hangout investigation explores not only the four current programs of Wellcome Leap but also the people behind it. The resulting picture is of an incredibly sinister project that poses not only a great threat to current society but to the future of humanity itself. An upcoming Unlimited Hangout investigation will examine the history of the Wellcome Trust along with its role in recent and current events."
It's also what engineers do, and chefs, and TV producers. And doctors. It's how progress is made. Problems arise when experimenters ignore risks to satisfy their obsession for an outcome.
I read the eugyppius article, although not medical I do have technical degrees. It seems to me that given this fact of the antigenic sin of initial virus exposure effect, this shot is dangerous for adults is catastrophic for children.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread seems like an appropriate expression of caution that is being ignored and laughed at today. Laugh today cry tomorrow, this is insane to vaccinate your children with this poison.
Not Forgetting ,OAS, just forcing Toxic Spike Protein production on Kids is going to ruin their lives, and they want covid "vaccines" to be added to the already immune disabling vaccine schedule for 0 -17 yo. Will these kids even make it to adulthood? Kids and young adults already suffer from the five A's...autism, ADHD.allergies,asthma,and Autoimmune diseases...all related to a malfunctioning immune system. Now they can add the two C's.....Clots and myoCarditis to the immune dysfunction.
Well pointed out, see Georgia Guidestones "commandment" number 1 to answer your question about reaching adulthood.
Well-stated. I like your 'five A's.' Remember too that the spike protein toxin also appears to attack fertility.
Presented at FDA meeting to approve 5-11 kill shots !
https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/26/fda-experts-ask-why-kids-are-dropping-like-flies-right-after-getting-the-covid-19-vaccine/
We have to inject the kids to know if it's safe ....WTF????
shocking!
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twistertim, ok that I tweeted your 5 A's? I credited you. If not I'll delete the tweet - it's too good not to share tho. thanks!
No Problem, Nothing I say is copyright protected. The bigger the audience the better!! I am not tweetybird anyway.
Thank you! I'm quite new to the tweetybird myself, and my almost 2 dozen followers 😋will appreciate it... you put it so clearly. Maybe others will pass it on, too.
If you have a technical degree, you can read the Pfizer Phase III trial, as well as the 6 month update. I think you will come away that vaccines reduce infection in adults and are very protective against severe disease. Although side effects can be severe, they aren't frequent. Vaccinating kids is a whole different question. Their risk of severe Covid is very low to begin with. People on both sides of the vaccine issue just can't seem to absorb the fact that this is an age related disease, like macular degeneration or falling down and breaking your hip.
The Pfizer Phase III trials and the 6 month update do not provide evidence of protection against severe disease or death...at all.
The UKHSA reports show a higher rate of infection in the fully vaxxed age 30 and older. Three weeks ago that crossover was age 40. So, any protection the jabs provide against infection and transmission is dropping like a rock.
The jabs do still show some protection against severe disease and death, but that is also dropping over time. They are not rolling out a booster dose of last year's magic potions because dose 1 and dose 2 worked too well.
If 70-year-olds want to get a jab every six months, that's on them. There is no justification for mandating anyone to take these jabs, especially young health adults and children.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/uk-vaccine-hell-predictably-worsens
"The jabs do still show some protection against severe disease and death, but that is also dropping over time."
Take it with a grain of salt. Governments couldn't publish data showing complete vaccine failure, without inciting civil unrest.
Didn't the 3rd shot ( aka booster ) start like this.....
https://www.axios.com/cdc-immunocompromised-covid-fourth-shot-1b47635c-c464-4d29-9832-3d94ea1cecf9.html
It's called vax creep....they are setting up a schedule right under our noses !
It's important to compare the frequency of severe side effects with the frequency of severe covid cases.
Pfizer / BioNTech Stage 3 Clinical Trial Data Benefits and Risks
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.supplementary-material
BENEFITS
1. Reduction in COVID Cases
2. Reduction in Severe COVID cases
3. Reduction in COVID and COVID-pneumonia deaths (2 deaths in the placebo group for every 1 in the vaccine group). This 2:1 ratio matches what we’re seeing empirically many places, though reporting is uneven.
RISKS
1. Increase in Severe Side Effects (3.9 severe side effects for every 1 severe COVID case prevented).
2. Increase in Cardiac Arrest Deaths (4 cardiac arrest deaths in vaccine group for every 1 in the placebo group)
3. 15 total deaths in vaccine group vs. 14 in placebo group. (See table S4. "S" as in Shareholder value).
This is one of the first vaccine candidates ever approved in the United States where more people died in the VACCINE ARM vs. the PLACEBO ARM of the randomized placebo-controlled study.
Nobody who has read the clinical trial is surprised at the increase in heart attacks and cardiac deaths going on right now. It is in the data. It is what we would expect.
And mandating that people accept such risk of death or other life-altering health consequences, is criminal.
And, then, they blew up the control arm...
That’s all we need to know.
The placebo isn’t an inert placebo. It’s another vaxx or components of the vaxx being trialed against.
There is no evidence of causality in these tiny numbers of adverse events, which are no higher than you would expect in any population of that size followed for that period of time. If you follow both arms for the next 80 years you will find that everybody in both arms has died.
Where are the Autopsies? There's no evidence because we are told there's nothing to see....move along.
So, an autopsy of a person who died of a heart attack would probably show lots of coronary plaque, and one ruptured plaque. How would that help us?
If we really want to know the Truth.......we'll need a lot more Autopsies.
https://trialsitenews.com/in-germany-some-groups-suspect-covid-19-vaccination-deaths-are-undercounted-but-not-the-majority/
Covid 19 causes clotting due Spike Proteins, so why couldn't Vaccine induced Spike Proteins that leak into the circulatory system. It's worth autopsying all vaccine deaths that occur shortly after the shots. SCIENCE IS NEVER SETTLED,despite what Biden & Fauci Say!
It all depends on whether you take a conspiracy theory view of RCTs. I have read hundreds of them, and I don't.
And..... you lost me and likely most of this room right after "conspiracy theory" which is the phrase always trotted out by people who know they've lost the argument and have run out of evidence and reasoned rebuttal.
Yeah, the groups running the trials have no conflicts of interest and are totally credible and trustworthy. Plenty of “legitimate” RCTs had been completely bogus and corrupted “randomized” trials. No one has been honest about COVID since they came up with the name.
Sorry, but anyone that throws out the phrase "conspiracy theory" has just shown themselves to be ignorant and uninformed.
there is nmo evidence that we are relying on conspiracies. But im willing to listen to any evidence u can provide.
That’s right. There is no way to show efficacy in younger people. Period.
But they are sure going to try in the 28,000,000 young 5-11 yo group!
Your first issue is trusting or believing any of the data they are putting out. Oh, they must be telling the truth THIS time.
I just started watching the show “Dopesick”. It’s based on a documentary about the opioid pandemic (I will definitely watch it next). Everyone that still has faith in the FDA & big Pharma should watch this show. History just keeps repeating.
There were far more severe adverse events in the vaccine than placebo arm (240 vs. 139). The disparity could not have occurred by chance.
https://norstadt.substack.com/p/severe-adverse-events-vs-severe-covid
There is no evidence of causality from any trial.
The whole purpose of an RCT is to establish causality. The outcome measure is the dependent variable. The drug or vaccine is the independent variable. The treatment and control groups are the same, due to randomization. The only thing different is the treatment. So, if there is a different outcome, the treatment caused it. That's medical science 101.
No, you don't understand statistics do you? There were outcomes on both sides that were the same, i.e. people got sick and died on both sides. It's the relative numbers of them that are being compared. The null hypothesis is what is being challenged, i.e. the differences in the outcomes on the two sides are not related to the treatment. Beyond that, what happens to any individual isn't predictable and statistics do not apply to individuals only populations. Medical science is bunk.
For EVERY drug trial we look at three elements to conclude that correlation evidence is sufficiently indicative of causation to warrant a pause: 1. Demographic, 2. Geographic. 3. Symptomatic. These combined with a plausible explanation have ALWAYS been sufficient to pull a drug.
There is no evidence for this comment. Unless you're willing to provide some. Where do you get that there are tiny numbers? 16,000 people have died after taking the vaccine
Any 3rd grader could look at the charts presented by sane and honest doctors showing the bad effects/deaths and I'll bet they'd opt to not drink the kool aid.
The risk for kids dying from this engineered disaster is nearly 0%...end-of-discussion from a risk\benefit (decision support). Some parents, however, will choose to ignore that and play Russian roulette with their kids short-term & long-term health. That's established and demonstrated in the article Alex cites.
We have never before put our children at risk to 'protect' the adults. Nor should we!
But they are sure going to try in the 28,000,000 young 5-11 yo group!
In my California county we have NO one under 17 dead from covid and only 1 under 29 in all these months. But every child I know (including mine) has had covid.
Richard - Show me the long term effects on these vaccines - beginning 1 year, 3 years and 5 years out.
Annual Vaccines for RNA viruses (FLU & now Covid) promote pathogenic priming.....the more you Vax the more sick you'll become. NIH actually has studies to this effect; I'm not sure any in charge ever reads them, though!
That already wins the debate, but I want more: show us the impact of childhood mRNA inoculation on fertility as an adult.
Maybe everything will be just fine.
If we need an RCT, I volunteer my five-year-old daughter for the control group.
My daughter controlled me from age three on!
If someone does know the long term effects, please share them with the world, as “Inquiring minds want to know!” 🧐🧐🧐🧐
The fact is that for most healthy adults up to about 79 years old, the survival rate is above 99%, and in younger healthy people (under 50), the IFR is statistically insignificant, because survival is effectively 100%. In the US, most COVID fatalities are of persons with an average of well over 2 co-morbidities. The vaccines are simply not necessary for most people, but they are potentially causing a rolling pandemic by being vaccinated during a pandemic, a stunt that some experts warned us about attempting even before the vaccines were developed (in case you haven't been paying attention).
Actually, the people who died have an average of 4.0 comorbidites. This has been the case for months.
Comorbidities and other conditions
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions,
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR0nz36pTfb8BZPwtxJ49-s8lHV7lQ1eQSmk0r06QueL6Eem4pWSzJz9Ouc#Comorbidities
Agreed.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/vaxx-promoters-resemble-timeshare
Macular degeneration is not an "age related" disease, it is a dietary induced disease. Research linoleic acid and other highly oxidative products of toxic seed oils.
Macular degeneration did not exist, and the technology to diagnose existed BEFORE first case was documented in medical research.
Chris Knobbe, MD has lots of research on topic.
What's the incidence of macular degeneration in 10 year olds vs 70 year olds?
That doesn't mean that the right diet won't prevent the 70 year old from getting it. Cataracts has similar diet relationship.
Why does it matter?
Degeneration by definition is progressive.
Amen.
The sooner people realize "vegetable" seed oils are primary cause of almost all modern diseases, the sooner we can extract ourselves from the maw of the diabolical Rockefeller medical establishment that's been raping and pillaging our world for the last century.
My family has incidences of macular degeneration. Could you provide with a link to this research.
Here is the overview. If it runs in your family, it's possible that it's not entirely age related. Above my pay grade.https://www.nei.nih.gov/learn-about-eye-health/eye-conditions-and-diseases/age-related-macular-degeneration
Thanks for the link.
Susan,
Here's a link to Dr. Knobbe's website.
https://www.cureamd.org/
Good Luck!
Thanks for the link. I've got a lot of reading to do.
do you know of that applies to flaxseed oil
Flaxseed oil is only good if it's raw. Once the oxidation takes place it becomes toxic and is used in varnish.
Julie,
Not sure off top of my head, but I think so.
There is a group of people who are devoting lots of time & effort reviewing the research on toxic seed oils. There are a number videos with Dr. Knobbe, Dr. Cate Shananahn, Tucker Goodrich, Brad Marshall - and this is small list.
And strangely enough, it also includes most chicken and pork meat because of the highly oxidative diet they are fed and they, like us, are monogastric.
thank you. its exhausting! you almost cant eat out for dinner
How about olive oil? Is fish oil ok? is black seed cumin oil bad too? how do we get our omega oils safely?
IvyRose,
Olive and avocado oils, which are oils from fruit, would generally be considered healthy EXCEPT it is too easy to adulterate both of these with seed oils, and the consumer is none the wiser. So just be careful with these. Some people find as they eliminate seed oils, they can detect adulterated fruit oils (I get GERD), so keep that in mind.
Black seed cumin oil is probably used on a sparing, prophylactic basis, right?
As far as "our omega oils safely" comment, I really recommend you listen to, and or read postings, of the people listed above. If this past 2 years hasn't taught us anything, it is we all need to spend a lot more time educating ourselves and less time blindly following "leaders" (AKA marketers talking points).
It's age related but also mitochondrial health related. Someone who is 30 with multiple underlying health conditions is older biologically than their actual age. That's been the big lie, even though the data on this has been very clear for more than a year.
Define "they aren't frequent", please?
Yes, and given that one of the potential side effects is DEATH....
Medical providers are barely documenting adverse events and for several people that I know had adverse events such as death and extreme shortness of breath their doctors will not even entertain the thought that these acute conditions were vaxx related. It’s horrifying what the medical establishment is doing to us
If I have a technical degree? Oh ok yeah you caught me. You are drifting from the point of the efficacy of giving an experimental gene therapy to children who’s immune system is still developing and the danger that is poses. If you are good rolling the dice on your children’s future health given inadequate testing that has been done, I feel sorry for you.
Perhaps you forgot that you said, "I do have a technical degree" I assume you mentioned that because you feel that you are able to evaluate medical evidence. Hence my recommendation that your read the studies, rather than opinion websites. You make a lot of assumptions. One of them is that my comments, which didn't mention children, had something to do with them. The vax isn't experimental. It has been proved to work in giant trials. However, I agree with you that the extension to younger and younger age groups raises unanswered questions. Is a vax justified if you aren't at much risk from the disease in the first place? Is it reasonable to give a vax to 5 year olds when no Phase III trial show they work? By the way, if you avoided comments like "I feel sorry for you," your comments would have more credibility. Fauci feels sorry for people who don't get the vax. His problem is that he's not very good at making the case for the vax. A good starting point would be accurately citing scientific information, without hype or misleading statements, appeals to emotion, or misleading arguments.
Let me just say this, IF and I do not agree it is effective given the only people I know that have had the virus were all vaccinated, if it were effective 10 months after the roll out, why does it need to be mandated? IF it is so effective why are Congress automatically exempt from mandates? IF it was so safe and effective why have the manufacturers got ZERO liability? IF a child has a 0.03% chance of contracting the virus and even lower risk of dying from it why would any sane parent want to put their child into this experiment?
'Giant trials'??? You've got to be kidding me! Pfizer had about 36,000 people, J&J had about 60,000, Moderna about 40,000; I don't know about AstraZeneca. Not all the trials covered all age groups. They were short. There were questionable practices which you can read about if you read the comments on the bmj blog and comments to the journal. Look for comments from Peter Doshi, an editor of the journal. They were approved for emergency use. For a disease with such a small death rate, trials would have had to include millions of people to show that the shots reduced the incidence of death from covid. I read the initial trial results and the 6 month followup. I didn't see what you saw at all.
It absolutely has not been proved to work and since it hasnt been tested on children and pregnant women it is experimental on them. And since its a new technology and hasnt gone through all phases it is for all the rest. especially since the 16K deaths have not been investigated.
I know u havent read any studies. So do that now and come back to discuss.
Plus - your true colors are now coming out. Sooner than I would have thought. You were trying to be "persuasive" of all us rubes up above. Now, you are outright making things up. The injections that are being used are still experimental (still under an EUA). Whatever the FDA "approved" is an injection that isn't on the market yet. So, yeah - all the injections are experimental still. You seem not to know this or know the difference. So, yeah - you are not making the case you seem to think you are making.
I think EUA makes sense for older people who want it or those with underlying conditions but it’s never made sense for healthy people under 50 (60 really). And then the FDA, Fauci, cdc also suppressed real treatment options because of the vaccine. The whole thing just stinks and has never made sense from a public health perspective…
I am 65 and I will not take this shot. I survived stage 3b colorectal cancer since 2006 and I am not about to upset the T cells in my immune system by putting this crap in there. I have not gotten this covid despite having plenty of exposure. I believe my own immune response is more effective than any vaccine.
maybe a troll
That might be right. I'm not sure if 50 is the cutoff, but you are in the ballpark. For younger people it's more of a question of are they worried about carrying the bug to grandma.
Can you show us studies that say symptomless children are carriers?
I didn't think so. Maybe you need to keep up better on the studies.
proven to "work" except how we interpret "working" has been completely perverted.. if it works why are they still getting infected?
Clearly if you get sick and were double vaxxed, it didn't work for you despite the results of the "so called" studies.
The trials were not giant and the vax wasn't proven to "work". Trials prove nothing, they present the results of statistical inference which only apply if the populations you eventually innoculate are similar to the ones you tested. That hasn't been the case in these vaxxes. Furthermore, "work" isn't defined so you need to do that. For any individual taking the shots, the studies say nothing nor do they predict anything.
The Pfizer RCT was larger than most vaccine trials. The Israeli cohort study contained millions. If you reject all that, as well as statistical inference, than all drug and vaccine trials are rejected and you can throw away the whole formulary.
So how many people actually understand this notion of statistical inference? Very few and they believe there is actual proof the shots work. Statistical inference is a long way from proof. Every time a double vaxxed person dies, the vaccine clearly failed. There are thousands of recorded failures and no recorded successes.
Seems you make a lot of assumptions, including what Fauci feels or doesn't. And, if you avoided using the term "conspiracy theory" for people who challenge your opinions and words like "giant" to describe a supposed scientific trial (what in the world does "giant" mean - 100 people, 1 million people?), maybe you'd have more credibility.
When did the vaccines go from experimental to verified safe?
When did you ever hear a scientific argument from frauci? "Follow the science" like the pied piper...and many did...
The vaccine were claimed to provide protection from transmission and infection. That proved false. They were claimed to be safe. That proved false by any reasonable measure of safety. They claimed to provide protection from severe effects and yes now the latest data out of the UK, Israel shows that this is false too. The only question remains: “when will this product be accepted as the failure it is”.
Vaxxes are like timeshares.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/vaxx-promoters-resemble-timeshare
If one were to assume "vaccination" was the actual intent of the serum, then yes, it would and should be deemed a failure. I, for one, don't believe that's the case.
I would say the real question remaining is: "What were these shots actually designed to do?"
Nothing good. That much is certain.
Pfizer provides not an ounce of protection against this disease!! I know 4 people fully vexed who not only got COVID but were sicker then hell. I know one person who died a couple weeks after her second shot. The only things these experiments provide is assuredly killing or severely injuring people. If you think your good just give it time, who knows maybe after the 3rd or 4th jab you now NEED to have!!!
I thought that no one died from COVID in either arm of the trial. You can claim from the data presented that it protects from hospitalization, but the trial itself wasn't high powered enough to show protection from death.
There was one death in the vax and 2 in the no vax. The issue you raise is one that applies to all vaccine trials. However, over the last several centuries that doctors have had vaccines and followed diseases over time we have learned that deaths tend to occur in people who are seriously ill and serious illness tends to occur in those who get infected. RCTs have saved more people than penicillin, but they never answer every question. At some point, clinical experience has to kick in as well as other kinds of data, like the Israeli cohort study with over a million people. It showed more than ten fold decrease in death and another 10 fold decrease for those who got boosters. The subsequent experience in the whole country has born out those findings, because cases and deaths are down dramatically, even though not everybody has had the vax there anymore than here. At some point you have to have a theory about disease works.
They are dying of side effects in Israel.
Statistic please. I think that's totally wrong.
Richard, you pull fake "facts" out of your ass like it's your job. Funny that you're asking anyone else for stats.
Haven't both Israel and the UK experienced significant short-term spikes in all-cause mortality immediately after their vaccine campaigns?
https://openvaers.com
Are they reporting this? Sorry I am not current on that.
VAERS reports 16K deaths.
The trials u are referiing to inclyuded less than 5% >70 years old, no autoimmune diseases, no children or pregnant females and a BMI of 25% average.
Its worthless.
Multiply the VAERS total by 10 to 100 and the true extent of the ongoing genocide becomes apparent.
Doctors avoid posting to VAERS. It takes a long time and might get you uninvited from the “in” crowd’s parties.
Are you talking about the same Israel that just had several weeks with record numbers of cases despite having 65%+ of the population vaccinated? That Israel? The vaccines are a fucking joke. If the smallpox vaccine were this level of dogshit ineffective, it would still be raging on every continent. Luckily Covid has a mortality rate of 0.2% (and much much lower in healthy people) vs 30% for smallpox.
You need the two primer doses and a booster. Yes, it's that Israel that's doing great. I realize that CDC hasn't been entirely clear about it, but that's how it is. Either you can accept that, or you can pretend vaccines don't work and not get one. Your choice.
Where in Pfizer's clinical trial data do they say you'll need a booster? Looks like they just figured that out on the fly. So two shots + a booster and then you're good for life? Can you point me to any clinical trial that reflects that? Or did you just make that up? Because it sounds like Israel was really fucking surprised by it.
This comment further shows you're unaware of reality. Vaxxing is NOT people's choice. It's widely compulsory.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/vaxx-promoters-resemble-timeshare
There is no evidence that israel is doing great. But im willing to listen to any evidence u provide.
Your figures must be Faucified. https://newsrescue.com/australia-israel-report-95-99-hospitalized-fully-vaccinated/
They have backpedaled to the position of reducing infection (well below expectations) and protection against severe disease (hard to know how much sicker someone would have been had they not been vaccinated). One dope stated that her father, who died from Covid. would have suffered more had he not been vaccinated. You forgot to address the degrading of the immune system (ADE) caused by the vaccine.
Doesn’t fit their narrative.
Where do you come up with that? Can you give me the details? I don't agree with any of this. They do not reduce infection and they do not protect against severe disease.
Amen!
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/vaxx-promoters-resemble-timeshare
I'm sure I am not the only one having this conversation to point of exhaustion !
https://twitter.com/i/status/1453413127349997571
Dr Risch, the Yale epidemiologist who famously presented his anti-booster findings to the FDA panel, said on Mark Levin Sunday to take your kids out of school, homeschool if necessary, do whatever it takes, but DONT VAX HEALTHY KIDS!
Glad to read of this, thanks.
This will happen to the Kids.......slow motion genocide......slow enough not to be noticed until it's too late !
Annual Vaccines for RNA viruses (FLU & now Covid) promote pathogenic priming.....the more you Vax the more sick you become. NIH actually has studies to this effect; I'm not sure any in charge ever reads them, though!
Just one correction, you mean magni-homicide, not geno-cide, since the latter deals with just one ethnicity, and they are killing as many ethnicities as possible.
if we are to be rejected from regular society, we need to start schools for the unvaxxed, as well as stores, restaurants and other things. That would be a dividing line, but it's already here.
If you look up "Andrew Torba" who started the "GAB" network, he has been over the last months, building up a "Parallel Society" / Parallel Economy to do exactly what you are stating, and already it's growing rapidly, and thus i think you might want to look this up and share it with your like-minded folks.
thank you. I will check it out. it seems inevitable unless people wake up and see the damage.
Thank you for considering this.
I've already heard talk to that effect where I live. There will be an underground economy.
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There is no reason to vaccinate children other than to appease the cowardly whims of those terrified of Convid. It wasn’t enough that these irrationally terrified simpletons insisted on you losing your freedoms, your job, and your dignity during this “pandemic”. The children must also be used as human shields to pacify their cowardice. This is pure evil, it must be resisted at all cost by good people the world over.
The Vax Covidians must have child sacrifice before and after birth...it is their way.
Dependent humans are a blight to the sociopathic world.
Elderly, kids, fetuses, developmental disabled, mentally ill… then just add Jews and Christians, whites, heterosexuals, law abiding citizens…
Hmm, What does this pattern echo, about 80 years ago…
True, but it echoes also Soviet Russia and Mao's China etc.. Socialist/Communism is political satanism... thus seeks to destroy any who are against it.
Well stated, truth, and i am aware of this also. They will pay dearly in eternity for doing this to the children as Jesus made clear about millstones around their neck and sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
Well articulated and i agree.
I needed this pep talk this morning — thank you! Yes, I think the key is to remain firm and calm - not engage in the fiery political rhetoric, but just stay rooted in the absolute facts, which give no reason to vaccinate those in this age cohort — and both of my kids are in this age cohort. Here’s one talking point I’m sticking to: Both of my kids have been exposed to this virus. This is not speculative. This is based on notifications that I’ve received from their schools where they were in contact with children who tested positive. They were required to quarantine and they tested negative. There have been zero in -school transmissions from kids to other kids or kids to teachers at their school. This tells me that my kids already have immunity to this virus and / or kids are not spreading this virus. So if they’re immune or are not spreading OR getting sick why on earth would I give them this shot (which doesn’t even prevent transmission!!) Even typing this I’m getting worked up, so I’d better stay clear of too many conversations, as almost every parent I know can’t wait for this jab to be approved for their grade school kids. I wish I could get through to them for their kids sake, but I will be channeling a zen like forcefield to maintain our own family position on this. Strength and solidarity to the rest of you, especially those in the same boat of having this be foisted on our young kids. 💔
Good luck! There are lots of us without kids standing behind you. I'm not sure how to help .. if you have suggestions I welcome them. Giving kids these jabs is one of the worst ideas in my lifetime, if not the worst.
Thank you! I really do feel your support. And it means so much. Honestly, I would feel alone if it were not for this community here. Grateful. 🙏
Hi! I am also in the Bay Area. I would love to chat live as we totally agree and might be without an option at some point.
I get just as worked up as you whenever I read parents who are eagerly waiting to jab their kiddos. It's sickening to see the cult-like behavior around this novel and extremely risky technology. WHO in their right mind volunteers their kids for such an experiment? I struggle daily as it is, trying to convince my young adult (19) and my high-schooler about the dangers of these shots to their age group. Suffering a severe AE at 70 is not the same as having to live 50+ years in pain, with rashes all over your body, with seizures, or cutting your life short because of myocarditis. Let's go Brandon.
I suggest using duck duck go to search Kyle Warner pro mountain biker and show your high schooler and 19yo the video as he describes his experiences post-vax. He’s 29, but I believe his experiences are being seen in same age group as your kiddos.
He’s testifying to Congress this week. Best of luck!
It's terrible what happened to him. I think he said some of the treatments (like ivermectin and other things) are helping his condition. Hopefully there is some positive treatment for the injured that will be next.
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I would suggest not putting yourself in the shoes of a 70- year old, having no idea of what they have already been through in their lives. An adverse event from a killer vaccine may just be the icing on the cake.
I was referring to a vax injury by the mRNA jab, specifically. And the fact that the prospect of pain-suffering would be shorter due to average life span.
Yes, I know what you were referring to, but I wonder if you realize how terribly cruel that sounds, while I am sure unintentional?
Kyle Warner video- show it to your kids
https://youtu.be/H7inaTiDKaU
I watched it but it bothers me that he kind of still endorses the jabs as the only way out. He did briefly mentioned "informed consent" at the beginning but that's not what my teens will hear. They will likely here the latter part of his message: you will need it to travel and do things... UGH!! I have a lot of other vaccine-injured stories that I can share with them where the victims are NOT endorsing the toxic jabs in any shape or form. Frankly, I am 100% against these jabs for all young & healthy people. Certainly, neither my 17 y.o. elite track athlete nor my healthy & active aspiring model (6' tall) daughter should risk their lives by taking them.
My step-daughter is enthusiastic about jabbing my grandson's ages 7, 3, and 1 year. Her reasoning is to protect others. All the logic in the world will not be enough to refute that argument when a person thinks Covid is an actual threat. What can be done? The Zen forcefield seems like the only path.
What kind of person gets enthusiastic about jabbing their own children. Oh my lord in haven.
Deer in the headlights...they just don't understand what is going on. Media, pharma, gov has done this.
Home schooling and segregation (of a different matter) may be coming back!
Same..
They expect us to trust a man who murders puppies with our children's health. That's a hard no.
It's not just puppies, he has a 40 year history of killing children and animals.
“As in know the science better than your kid’s pediatrician, her teacher, her school board member, so that you can explain - simply and without getting upset - why they do not know what they’re talking about.”
A thousand times THIS.
How has this worked so far? Why do you think it will work now? If you want resolution, hire a lawyer, or learn to fight in other ways. Rational argument doesn't work on irrational mobs.
Knowing the science and challenging them is the first step.
But I’m not sure why you’d put your faith in lawyers either. I am one and I am surrounded by an office full of sheep…
The challenges of the science have been tried over a year. Hasn't worked. Litigation is working. Cases are being won. We don't need to love lawyers to benefit from their work. Courts are a weapon. Competent warriors use all weapons available.
I get it but, again, knowing and challenging “the experts” on the science is the first step (and something that everyone can do).
Litigation is a tool but I have much less faith in the legal system than you seem to have.
Logic challenges have been ineffective. Legal challenges have been effective, more are underway.
We've done that for a year. How long before you realize it doesn't work?
I don't have faith in lawyers, nor the legal system for that matter. Litigation is a tool, and lawyers are mechanics, which sometimes work. Lately, they're winning cases. Likely to win more. That will force an end to tyranny quicker than complaints.
I want some on air personality to start asking pro vax guests if they believe that all gay people spread HIV by merely being gay. It's the same argument.
You'll need to explain that unusual analogy. If you don't think litigation works, don't use it. Entirely unrelated to sex.
Because someone has to first be exposed to a disease before they can contract and thus spread a disease. The argument that an unvaxed person is somehow a carrier/spreader of Covid 19 is the same as saying all gay people spread HIV simply by being gay.
I think it's more of a matter that you don't have to genuflect to these authoritarian worshipping idiots than you will ever convince them of anything by using real facts.
When people are caught in their amygdala and group think thru the massive fear porn propaganda, their analytical pre-frontal cortex thinking brain doesn't click on and engage very well. That's a problem!
No one should be taking this shot at this point. The spike protein was specific to the original strain of COVID-19. We are now.....4 or 5 variants out so this would be like taking a 5 year old flu shot according to Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Pierre Cory, Dr. Robert Malone and others.....https://youtu.be/pR5sdbkOdM4
Good to see you know about Malone.. and the others.
Yes! That's my 'dream team,' add Peter McCullough and Vladimir Zelenko, Robert Fleming...
"No one" is never the right answer. To anything. That's the same flaw as "everyone" needs the vax. The important thing is everyone is different. Some have reduced immune strength that gives them higher risk from infection, and an immune boost, however temporary, can make a difference in their survival that outweighs the small risk of vax harm. You're right that no one who is "average" needs it. Question is who is average. Competent doctors would advise us on that. Unfortunately we don't have many.
I have to differ with this statement.
"No One" should walk out in traffic with their eyes closed. No one should drink battery acid. No one should jump out of an airplane without a parachute.
There are many times that "Never" is the correct response. This vax has proven to be of no value whatsoever, for ANYONE. The notion that "it would have been worse if they hadn't been vaxxed" is simply sophistry. There is zero data to demonstrate that such a statement is anything but made up out of whole cloth.
The vax is a therapeutic at best and if compared to other therapeutics. it has been found seriously wanting in both safety and efficacy terms.
As such, NO ONE should get it.
EVER.
no one should think like David
I totally agree. I also don’t think it should even be called a “vaccine”. There was no way any data could be useful from the initial (very short running) trials given the tiny risk of symptomatic infection in all groups regardless. High dose Vitamin D supplementation probably has more efficacy in this regard if it was studied. It’s totally insane. The whole thing. And it’s not just this vaccine. All the new “vaccines”. The “autoimmune” diseases in kids now and the autism/adhd is just insane. I know some of it is “seek and he shall find” but ER patients for “allergies” in kids here in the U.K. is just skyrocketing. Has been for the last few years. It’s measurable.
Even the CDC realized it shouldn't be called a vaccine, that's why they changed the definition. After the Covid-19 vaccines were introduced, and it was discovered they do not necessarily "prevent disease" or "provide immunity," the CDC altered the definition to say:
"Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease."
The sad irony is that we now know they don't "produce protection" either. So look for the CDC to "evolve" the definition further. Maybe something like...
"Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce large profits for Big Pharma. If said introduction also provides some level of protection from symptoms for a few months, all the better."
That's where the lawsuits should be aimed. Certainly there must be contractual agreements that have been affected by that change of definition. ATF can't just change the definition of the word "Firearm" without going through a very lengthy and public process. The definition of Vaccine should be forced back to what it was by a federal judge until such time as parties affected by the change can rewrite their contracts. Say 5 years.
Except they KNEW that the clinical trials were NOT designed to prevent transmission. Rather to reduce severity/death outcomes. (the manufacturers' websites explained this clearly) They lied from the get go and got caught in the act. That's when they decided to change the definition.
700,000 Americans died of covid, so far, allegedly. If the vax had been released sooner, many of them would have survived. Some it wouldn't have helped, their immune system too weak to respond to the vax. Most of us did not die, did not need the vax. The failure of the government, and of many observers, is not analyzing their need for protection. I got a mild case in December, before the vax was available, so I know I don't need it. Many don't know, and the corrupt government doesn't care. Certainly, no one who doesn't need it should get it. Some do need it.
Everyone considering vax should get an antibody test first. Cheap and easy. If you have antibodies, the vax won't help. You're okay. Thousands still die every day. some vaxed, some not. Some of the unvaxed deaths would have been avoided by vax. For them, "no one" was the wrong answer.
Agree that anyone who has natural immunity should not get the vax, this is true of any vaccine.
I can't agree that an earlier rollout of the mRNA therapeutic would have done anything but harm. You can't vaccinate your way out of a pandemic, even with a real vaccine, much less this poison.
The pandemic was effectively over prior to the vax rollout. But now, we are dealing with the Pfizer variant, which will never go away.
By they way, the 600K (or whatever number is the death count de jour) is not even close. Yes, people died but we now know that hospitals were mis-categorizing HOW they died. Furthermore, a huge percentage of those who died over the last 18 months OF Covid, could have been saved with Ivermectin, HCQ, and boosted immune systems.
The vax induces antibodies, which would have saved many victims. Not all. The vax causes harm to a very few. Remember billions of doses have been administered, and only thousands of reported harms. Perspective. Zero risk does not exist. No safe spaces.
The vax does induce some antibody response, unfortunately, it is the wrong kind. The kind you definitely don't want.
It is likely that over 200,00 people have been killed by the jabs, probably more since only <95% of adverse reactions are reported to the VAERS system.
There is a huge increase in unexplained cancer diagnoses, heart conditions are spiking, etc. None of these are being reported because nurses and doctors will lose their jobs if they do.
Don't buy the propaganda David. It's not helpful.
The problem is basing your opinion on 'reported harms'. Nothing is reported when all the doctors know it's safe and effective. I know multiple people that had bad reactions - none of their doctors would acknowledge the shot did it. Two of the injured weren't even willing to consider the shot was to blame even though they were all negative health developments seemingly out of nowhere. The only way to know how common damage is would be to do blood tests to see what's happening, which a handful of rogue doctors have done at great risk.
Too bad those thousands of people you mention weren't given informed consent.
Therapeutics
Prohibiting therapeutics is a far greater scandal than demanding the vax. There will be prosecutions. Probably impeachment.
yep, where were they when needed? oh, hidden in the lock boxes of the big pharma while they were preparing the vials of death shots.
They've messed with data collection from the start, including corrupting the control groups. And they stopped counting covid from vax-failures - I mean, 'breakthru cases' except some of the hospitalized and dead.
Here's one for you. Dr. Henry Ealy, who is also successfully treating vax injured, reported on a soft audit done of covid death stats in San Jose and Alameda counties in CA. They counted 23-24% of the listed covid deaths had 'comorbidities' like gunshots and car accidents. Those were not covid deaths.
With their gaslighting, lies and shell games, we can know very little for certain, which is what they want.
If you look at the death certs, they likely say death by gunshot with additional condition of covid. The problem is sometimes manipulated records to maximize payments, but usually it's the manipulation of statistics to politicize the outcomes. You're right we'll never know exactly what happened, but researchers will scour the records and improve the analysis.
What researchers? The government and pharma-paid researchers?
Improve what analysis? The data is fake, you just admitted it.
How do you know some of the unvaxxed deaths would have been avoided by vax? How could you know? A titers test would be better than an antibody test correct or are they the same thing?
I know how vaccines work, and immune systems. The stats we're given are averages, with a broad range of underlying physiologies. Many have strong immune health and don't benefit from the vax. Some are too weak to produce the necessary immune response from the vax, and don't benefit from the vax. Some are weaker, and thus have greater risk from the virus but less vax response so if the get enough boost from the vax to help. So certainly some are helped. A few people have risk from the vax itself for reasons we don't understand yet. So we have uncertainties in vax benefits and vax risks, but evidence that billions have been vaxed without apparent problems. The vax has no warranty. We don't either. Risk management is what differentiates successful people from the unsuccessful.
The question is... based on the evidence supporting the extremely low risk of injury/death from the virus. Should a person take a jab that was released for political reasons? Remember Trump pulled out every barrier he could to get this jab out to the public as quickly as possible. Now, Biden is promoting the jab that Trump made happen and that he said he would never support. That alone screams for a halt and deep research. Now, you are basing your support of the jab on reports that are shrouded in a political agenda coming from people supported by big pharma money and who need funding for future projects. I just don't see how you can talk so highly of the jab. After lie upon lie. miscalculation reports, fake calculation admissions, and false information have been brought to light through admission and evidence. Pile that with the fact that Congress and other governmental agencies will not be mandated to get jabbed but private companies will be mandated to jab their employees or fire them. Trust the political jab or take their chance with the virus? How can you speak highly of a jab brought about under these circumstances? I cannot trust it. I'm not saying it's wrong to trust it, I have friends and family that do and took the jab. I just don't understand how a seemingly educated intelligent person looking at both sides of the argument, such as you seem to be, doesn't have trust issues with it to the point of saying don't do it. For now, at least.
Your words: "The vax has no warranty" Exactly! So why would you risk that???
Getting these shots marketed as vaccines was an incredible coup for big pharma. All the assumptions and understandings of the safety and efficacy of prior vaccines do not apply to the covid shots. It's so ridiculously ineffective, they changed the definition of immunity and vaccines! Straight out of 1984. And for the pharma companies that chose to use the dead and weakened versions of the virus (like traditional vaccines) - they're ignoring a horrible track record for prior coronavirus vaccine attempts. As for risk management - literally zero long term data, but extrapolating the safety record of prior vaccines. And now mix and match, because why not? This is pure insanity.
Your words again: Risk management is what differentiates successful people from the unsuccessful. Obviously it's not about all people to you, just successful ones, or not.
This jab business is not short game. These institutions play a long game.
This is speculative nonsense.
I know a person that was in a weakened comorbid state that was given the vax on his way out of the hospital, and was in a coma and on a ventilator within 24 hours. The doctor refused to acknowledge it was the shot - since vaccine reactions 'are usually within the first 2-4 hours'. Even if you're the most vulnerable to covid, the shots have serious risk and zero long-term data. Safe and effective early treatment is the right strategy for everyone.
Matthew Crawford of Rounding the Earth would call this "Type 2 COVID" - e.g. COVID symptoms induced by the spike protein.
Usually shows a misunderstanding of the Black Swan Event. Just because you haven't seen one doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Are you talking about the coma outside of that 2-4 hour window being a black swan event? I think he just made up the 2-4 hour window nonsense. They refuse to acknowledge anything that challenges the idea these shots are safe, and will come up with any excuse. Young and healthy people developing heart problems or suffering aneurysms a few weeks or months after the shots - maybe these would have been black swans against original vaccines, but not the clot shot.
Anaphylactic shock post-vax happens quickly. Strokes and heart failure, and many other major adverse reactions happen within 2 days up to 2 weeks. Some will take a bit longer than that.
The vax was not a factor.
Because it's safe and effective. Yes, I know.
No, because neither the virus nor the vax works that fast.
my god you are an idiot, or a troll
How do you know that it doesn’t “work” that fast? What is the mechanism?
That would explain why my OB/GYN very gingerly discussed vaccination. She didn’t ask me directly if I was going to get the vaccine, she just said a little prehearsed spiel and then, “do you want more information on getting the vaccine?” I felt confident saying no, and it was never discussed again.
So the doctors are under a gag order.
what happened to the 'do no harm' oath?
True, it is easier. Don't most hospitals and medical systems have protocols in place that must be followed. Are doctors even doctoring anymore?
Disagree Dave, no one. You surely saw the earlier article that this poison damages antibody production to the Nucleocapsid? Plus the collective harm because high uptake of the shots make covid much worse? Whatever benefit they demonstrate by pulling data through a keyhole is tainted and skewed to benefit the vax, and even with all the BS, it isn't enough. We get the all-or-nothing logical fallacy, but it doesn't apply here.
Every medicine has a little poison. It's how they work. Most notoriously, cancer meds. Sometimes they work, and if they fail it's catastrophic for the patient. Some people need the vax. Most don't. Accepting it, or not, is optional, despite coercion. Some submit to coercion more easily than others. Their choice.
Coercion is everywhere. Read one way on the CDC website - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html
It would violate the 5th amendment and several other parts of the Constitution so is unlikely to ever be attempted. Coercing employers to fire employees is as egregious and is being litigated.
Dear Mr. Sir, I'm afraid you just completely invalidated all of your prior attempts to be the "reasonable and smart" guy on this issue. The idea that coercion would be "egregious" and unConstitutional and therefore would never happen may be true in the cerebral version of a lab inside your mind. Out here in the actual world coercion is constant and relentless, backed by explicit threats of unemployment, shaming, and exclusion from society. Dismissing it altogether is like ignoring VAERS, which for all its faults is still screaming DANGER DANGER. You might also join a Telegram channel or two with frontline workers: they get the raw data and experience before it gets completely censored and misclassified and ignored. Based on what these frontline people are saying as many as one in four hospital admissions may implicate the vax as a factor: wouldn't it be swell to know more? The analogy is Kabul: three weeks before the disaster the people on the ground were screaming "Um sir we're seeing lots and lots of Taliban everywhere!". By the time that data arrived at Biden and the generals it became "Everything's great sir full steam ahead!". With the entirely predictable result, predetermined by the completely constipated flow of good and accurate information from the continent of RealWorldia. Even if we had a health system animated not by money but by health they would not have anything like the accurate information that is required in order to make these monumental life and death decisions, instead we get one of the FDA officials this week voting on the boosters, QUOTE: "we're never going to learn about how safe this vaccine is unless we start giving it". In Actual World this gentleman would be dismissed immediately and sent to an illustrious career in timeshare sales...but he would most definitely NOT be holding the lives of millions in his hands, no, never, nah, nope, no thanks, no way. The moral of the tale is that science and censorship do not mix: the latter completely invalidates the very basis of the former and turns it into a religion. And we don't build our airplanes, and shouldn't manage the lives of our citizenry, based on the utterances of priests.
Why would one take the shot now when the structure of virus has changed? It is useless at this point. The vaccine was specific for the original strain.
The pro vax argument is the current strain is never the only strain, and old vax may prevent a few infections, but certainly the odds are good this one-size-fits-all vax is less likely to work. It's why they produce a new flu vax every year. Some work, sometimes, some don't. The main thing I've learned from this sorry episode is my innate immune system is pretty strong. I won't get a covid vax, nor any more flu vax. I should have figured it out sooner. I've gotten flu vax every 3 or 4 years, never got flu. Mostly I get them when a cute nurse wanted to caress my bicep. Always worth a try.
Really???
Well said. Friend is elderly with years of bone cancer, he was first in line for the fax and the booster because he is in immediate danger. It makes sense for him even with the long term risks, he doesn't have that long anyway. We should have all been left to make this decision for ourselves.
As a person with cancer, I would NEVER get the vax now that we know that it appears to damage your immune response. Dr Cole has addressed this phenomenon on multiple occasions.
If you don't want to damage your immune system, don't take drugs that will destroy it. In any case that's my motto. ;-)
(that includes avoiding glyphosate)
Also he is a red pilled MD of high repute and thus probably knows more about what is going on than all of us put together
Unfortunately for the severely immunocompromised, vax is less effective. They need other protections. Vax is simply a stimulus to the immune system to generate antibodies without the risk of live pathogen. In this case, the vax induces antigenic proteins which healthy immune systems respond to with antibodies. Those who respond strongest to the vax would also respond strongly to the virus. Those who have the strongest or the weakest immune systems don't get much benefit. Those in between get a boost that might make a difference.
The first mistake is assuming doctors, especially bureaucrats who haven't treated patients since residency, are somehow omniscient and benevolent. They all have useful skills, but all are limited, and all care more about their own bottom line than yours. The bigger problem is patient competence, not doctor competence. We all have responsibilities to understand what any employee tells us. Those who don't understand are less likely to get the results they want.
It's not about variants...they know exactly what the Spike Protein is doing and will do!
Booster , After Booster......More Spike,More Spike.....on and on.....
Agreed.
Big pharma is the new big tobacco. Customers for “life.” 😶
True. So True. Making a killing... literally.
Johnny Mnemonic is a fun look at where this leads.
That sure has some validity. The elite use movies like the one you mentioned to telegraph where they are taking us (or would like to) so that we accept it as an eventual reality. We must resist the rise of the Antichrist kingdom unto death, i know i will.
It's an evil synergy how these industries support each other. And the vast majority of doctors know absolutely nothing about diet or nutrition. Totally unrelated to health, right?
So true about how Western Allopathic doctors only know about giving drugs and operations etc like Rockefeller taken-over medicine teaches them and not all that much about diet and nutrition.
Years ago I remember John Oliver or someone like that railing against pregnancy mortality rates in the US - 3rd world tier in some poorer areas. Solution of course is send them more federal money. 100% never mentioned was the fact those horrible statistics were directly related to morbid obesity.
"Fat shaming" would solve a lot of problems.
But they required we stop smoking to participate. Same thing.
Truth. My greater point is coercive measures by powerful
entities to obtain lifers. If we can begin to show similarities in “big ____”, (more) moderates may wake up.
Question: What do I say to friends who tell me they're excited about being able to vax their toddler or 6 year old? I want to say “Thalidomide also sounded like it wouldn't hurt anyone … “ but I just keep quiet, which doesn't make me feel okay. Because these rabid child vaxxers think the unvaxxed are the enemies of their children. I keep waiting for the poor Beagle puppies to awaken the soccer moms and dads.
Same situation. A co-worker said something along these lines in a meeting and it was affirmed by another. I didn't say anything -- I never engage my co-workers on anything remotely political because as far as I'm concerned they're all lunatics.
On the one hand, I doubt you'd budge someone already contemplating doing this to their kid. They're beyond the bend. On the other hand, it reinforces the idea that everyone is in agreement with this insanity. Some who may not have done it to their kid, might.
Pointing out kids cannot benefit from the jab (because they're already as zero risk from covid), while also assuming all the unknowable risk of the injections, is such an obvious cost/benefit calculation that it's sure to not work on these people. So, to answer your question, "No idea".
My coworkers are lunatics too. Last week one was going on about how he can't wait to give his kids the "safe and effective" vaccines so they can stay at a hotel ... today a healthy 32 year old called out sick because the booster shot left him in serious pain. Said he's going to take a sleeping pill and try to rest ....
I really didn't think people could get more insane than they have been ... but this is just bonkers. What the hell is going on?
It is so hard to keep my mouth shut. Was talking to this women who has been waiting for months to vaccinate her 9 and.6 year old boys and she told me her pediatrician said "why wouldn't you?" Anyone who has personally asked us about our kids (and I honestly cannot believe we've gotten to the point where someone feels it's ok to ask this during small talk) we've said "No, not enough data and the data that we've seen does not look good".
My wife and I have the exact same conversation...every day. We have 5 kids and they'll have to drag me through the streets before I let them near my wife and children. I'm amazed that we are in this position.
My husband and I just had this conversation this morning. We moved from Atlanta to Connecticut last year (ugh, ugh, ugh) But the people in both areas are really similar (a lot of finance professionals/lawyers/cpas, etc). The Atlanta people were way more laid back throughout, but they did seem to all rush out and get vaccinated just like the Connecticut people. I think these people have followed the rules their whole lives and it's led to a comfortable life/success so this is all just one more rule following exercise for them.
Doesn’t matter where you live JV. Sheeple are everywhere. North / South it doesn’t matter. Just take a look in your local publix
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I usually try the "but kids aren't at risk for serious Covid, the flu is more dangerous according to the CDC and every other authority. We do know there is a risk for heart inflamation from these vaccines, acccording to the same authorities. It might be a small possibility, it might not ... we just don't know yet. We need long term studies. So why take the risk?
Know what you mean. They just write us off as crazy. But maybe if enough of us speak up...
But it will give them "peace of mind" lol
I just smile and nod, and back away. Many people abuse their kids. We can't always help.
Tell them. What’s worse...damaged egos or healthy children. Playtime is over with these people.
"act in haste, repent in leisure"
Then show them what else Fauci and pals have tried out on kids:
https://www.altheal.org/toxicity/house.htm
Live at the FDA meeting: A scientist just pointed out that, under one scenario presented in the data, more children will be hospitalized with heart inflammation from the vaccine than they will be from the virus. The Pfizer rep. answers that, if that happens, it will still be well worth it to vaccinate all the kids, since they will be able to help protect the vulnerable, attend school in-person, etc. In other words, "societal benefits."
It's all for the greater good, don't you know?
Follow me as live-blog the meeting here:
https://darbyshaw.substack.com/p/listen-live-as-fda-considers-pfizers/comments
That response makes me feel sick. All Pfizer cares about is the bottom money line.
If they approve this, my faith in the FDA will FOREVER be gone (what little I had.)
My faith in them is already gone. They have lied from the start. I can't imagine why more people do not see this. They seem like mindless followers.
Not mindless, dedicated followers of Pharma BS & Profit Protectors !
So you're the one that still had a little faith in them! We found you!! Damn unicorn
Proving that they people who represent Pfizer are dirt bags. What the rep said is laughable since we now know that the vaxxed are super-spreaders.
If I were a teacher, I would want to know which kids had gotten the vax and when so that I could stay as far away from that kid as possible.
That's SICK! Every parent should hear about that response from Pfizer!
I would like the Pfizer rep to explain exactly how vaccinated children protect the vulnerable? They might for a short while and then the vulnerable are rolling the dice. Maybe the vulnerable should stay home, get healthy, research treatment options, save $700 for the Merck drug.... almost any plan would be better than simply associating with a building full of people that can spread the virus pretending that they can't.
The problem is Rob, that EVERYONE is vulnerable when they are around a recently vaxxed person. It has been shown that people recently jabbed can carry huge viral loads if infected and not even be symptomatic. Furthermore, they can shed the spike protein in their breath and through bodily fluids including perspiration.
This is undoubtedly why the pandemic continued rather than turning endemic as it was appearing to do before they rolled out the mRNA tech.
This is turning out to be a pandemic of the foolishly vaccinated.
They cannot not know this. This has to be deliberate, folks.
It’s a sterilization shot. Be safe friends.
"...their policies threaten to bring about a semi-permanent pandemic state for years to come." Just what they want.
I have lost a lot of faith in the medical profession. I don't understand why doctors are encouraging anyone with a low risk to get vaccinated, much less children with practically zero risk. Many doctors seem unable to perform a cost-benefit analysis. How is it that someone (me) that lacked the motivation to make an 8am Chem class in college, has the motivation to inform myself today and they do not. Perhaps they are unwilling or too scared to go against the crowd. From my perspective, the only reason to get vaccinated will be if those in power completely screw things up with mass vaccinations and create a Marek effect. And God help us if that happens.
It's mass hysteria. Mob mentality. Thomas in thecampaign.substack.com discussed this recently, citing "The Crowd" by Gustave Le Bon in 1895. It's the downside of human nature. Important that we prepare for mobs, they've always appeared when we least want them.
I actually think it has more to do with people not willing to take responsibility for their own decisions and what that inevitably leads to. Notice I used the word "will" and not want. It's about surrendering free will because it's too hard, both from within and without. Any sane person that digs into the plethora of information that is now available regarding the experimental gene therapy vaccine is not going to want it inside of themselves or their children. But it's just so much more comforting and easy to listen to the "experts." It's like this huge lesson that keeps being presented to us every single day, year, century... on both the micro and macro levels. Everytime we fail to rise to the occasion, the stakes just get higher and higher. There is so much comfort for people in declining that responsibility and just accepting what this or that "authority" or expert tells us to do. But sooner or later, the piper comes calling and demands remuneration for the time spent in comfortable delusion. Even if an individual somehow escapes the piper, it may well be his beloved children that he watches pay the price. That's why I think, if we do get to a mob stage, the mob will be gunning for the experts on this one.
Yes. And likely some just read the clinical trials and that was it. Others may lack the curiosity or the time. And going along with "the crowd" is just easier.
NO, this crowd will not just go along!
Correct, but I was referring to doctors that do go along.
got you. I've seen the doctors (and nurses) go along because they are forced to or lose their job...it's pathetic and really criminal.
I think they are in a very difficult position, mortgages, children, etc. I think there will be a time in each of our lives, if it hasn't already happened, no matter what our profession or situation in life, that we will have to stand up, and in doing so risk our health, our income, our safety, etc. I hope everyone is preparing themselves for that day so they will make the honorable choice.
Dr. Risch noted that most doctors don't read the studies - they get the "executive summary" from their higher ups.
That is not encouraging. I prefer doctors with initiative to seek answers.
FWIW, I live in a very blue town in a very blue state. During a telemedicine appointment my doctor asked if I was vaccinated and I said no (it was relevant to the possible condition I was being seen for.) He didn't even try to persuade me to get it or anything. Didn't bring it up again. I was really surprised.
The typical response you'll get is that Drs don't want to lose their jobs.
Of course, some are willing to fight back but not nearly enough. If nurses, dock workers, pilots, and truckers can stand up to the Biden Admin and the healthcare establishment, so can docs. In fact, if anyone has the power to end this nightmare, it would be doctors acting with some testosterone and make bullies like Fauci pay.
But they have to hang together.
Doctors having some of the highest uncancelable student loans which makes them a lot more vulnerable to coercion, especially with medical boards threatening to take away their ability to work.
I realize that this is true. So their calculus ends up being, "should I keep my job or kill my patients?"
Hmmm, tough call.
Imagine all the groups that wrote your textbooks and govern your industry declare that the science is settled - safe and effective! Who are you to question them?? That's not how you get through the modern education system. I suspect it's willful and unwillful blindness and horribly misplaced trust.
Excellently stated. These "really smart" medical pros never, as in never ever, question the system that educated and elevated them in society.
In the US, general practice has been corporatized, wherein groupthink dominates as the best career route.
We need a parallel medical system of and for the unvaxxed. I don't want anything to do with the system in power now.
I am really sorry Sandra. That is so sad. I hope you find something else that is as fulfilling.
At my last physical, my PCP said, "Just get the shot, doctors are tired of arguing with people. We have lives too."
I won't be going back to her of course. Not sure who I can rely on now though.
Become a nurse advocate and help people find and fight for better healthcare in a broken system. If you're in a big city - being able to point sick clients to which clinics/hospitals are still providing decent service would be an invaluable service. Along those lines - I wish there was a way to find out hospital kill rates when it comes to covid. Would be amazingly helpful to know which places are doing an incredible job at saving people, and which are just killing everyone.
*patient advocate
Agree. The lack of empathy and vitriol towards the unvaccinated, especially those losing their jobs and financial security, has been quite disturbing.
When the risk is so high, there MUST be choice.
but they deny the risk, thus the no choice. How do we get them to admit to the risks? How do we convince the brainwashed of the risks? I think at this point we can only sit back and watch.
There should choice period, no matter if it is high or low, that's called informed consent, freedom to bodily autonomy.
I already said “no” to all vaccines for my kids so piece of cake
Amen, you are informed and truly do love your children.
Ben @ USmortality is clearly showing a significant increase in all cause death in 21-50 year olds. Both in Europe and the US. He has also posted some prelim analysis that shows that the excess deaths are linked to the jabs. This is unreal - and to give kids these jabs, this makes no sense whatsoever. If we move forward, it will be the worst public health decision to be made in the history of our country.
It's all by design to move forward, why? Silent weapons for quiet wars, quiet weapons for silent wards = depopulation = see George Guidestons "commandment" number 1.
I have heard of the Georgia Guidestones, but it has always struck me as beyond crazy.
But now ....
Many think it was crazy until they take the time to learn about the NWO.
have you ever contemplated why you would think that an object in the world is 'beyond crazy'? What does that even mean? May be worth working that out.
One of my favourite quotes ever is from Michael Ruppert RIP
"when you realise the world is run as a criminal enterprise, it all starts to make sense"
I often point out the reverse side of the same idea to people
"Until you realise that the world is run as a criminal enterprise, nothing seems to make sense" How many times have you heard about senseless violence? How many people say this or that gov action 'doesn't make sense' Maybe they aren't doing what they say they are doing.
Very good points, thanks for that quote, what a good summation.
Why is there no anger towards Dr. Feces. By anyone. He funded this research and now the world is shut down, people are losing their jobs, kids are masked and being forced vaxed. Dr. Feces should be hung from the highest tree.
You don't need a very high tree for that one.
Alex, it would be valued if you could write a post to try to convince parents to not vaccinate their kids yet. Something rhetorically designed to be most effective on the people who are probably going to do it, but amenable to at least delaying it. Maybe even a video is better than a post.
Something basically we can send to people. I was going to send this, but I think I probably only have one shot to try to convince certain people to delay, and want to make sure I send the very best, most convincing item. Buying time is the name of the game here.
Alex, How can we fund nationwide ads on TV, Newspaper, Internet, Bills Boards against these vaccines for Kids????
You could show them the work of Dr. Yeadon former Phizer chief scientist who is against injecting the children with toxic poison securing their lifelong client status to Big-Pharma suffering and accelerated death.
your lips to God's ears my friend! fully prepared to homeschool if it ever gets that out of control here in TX. Big Pharma and corrupt governments are not the answer and not the way.
Homeschool children tend to be more intelligent than others of their age who go to gov't schooling.
Intelligence is genetic. Home schooled kids likely have smarter parents. Most parents are incapable of home schooling, for the same reason they're incapable of determine their risks. Remember that half of the population is below average.
Intelligence is not genetic, God/Jesus makes that clear, intelligence is spirit based, not matter based, watch this and see why your position is founded upon an inherently seriously flawed understanding of the nature of reality you exist in;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PUJ1astM-k - The Folly of Machine Consciousness
Before reply, please ensure you take the below into consideration;
“…Contempt prior to examination is an intellectual vice, from which the greatest faculties of mind are not free.” -William Paley, 1859 A.D.
You seem to be confusing intelligence, the capability to learn, with wisdom, the results of learning. An AI running on a PC is less intelligent than an AI running on an IBM supercomputer. They named theirs "Watson" probably wasn't because of me.
Did you watch what i kindly asked you to watch what i did before replying? Since considering the time i left the message your response back, suggests you didn't.
If you have a point, please state it.
maybe my comment before was out of order. I am starting to like you
I always enjoy disagreement.
Homeschool anyway
How has the medical community be coopted to participate in this? What happened to carefully analyzing the risk of the disease versus the vaccine?
And beyond that, What ever happened to the Hippocratic Oath?
Geert Vanden Bossche made the very salient point that children are also critical virus sinks/dampers as once exposed they contribute to herd immunity. We can’t have that can we? $$$
Glad you know about Geert Vanden Bossche, and that is quite a good point.
sterilization and depopulation. would've sounded crazy two years ago.. not so much now eh? sorry, thinking out loud.
Agreed, we are supposed to be the crazy ones warning of these things for years (i've been warning/informing of this for at least almost 20 years), and yet you have the George Guidestones "commandment" number 1 laying it right out and so many other elite preaching their depopulation because we are "useless eaters" when God made this earth to be HUGE and claiming we are overpopulated is nothing but profound lies of satan, which of course all those who serve him know the Devil desires blood sacrifice to give them power and control. A growing darker evil world as Jesus foretold will occur before He returns and finally sets things straight for eternity.
I read the eugyppius article this morning. It is one of the best that I have read to date, hopefully helping those to better understand how viruses work. I have been saying this since March for 2020,Protect the elderly and the immune compromised individuals from the cytokine storm! We would have been over and done with this already and SARS Covid-2 would have fallen into the "seasonal flu" category.
Don't be afraid to homeschool. In 1986 when my first was born, I read John Holt's book Teach Your Own, and it changed my life. My husband and I homeschooled our four children all the way through high school, ending in 2018, and all four went on to win scholarships to college and full rides to grad school and law school. The best gift is that all of my school-age grandchildren are being homeschool! Being a homeschooling parent isn't easy, but parenting is never easy. Never allow your school, church, or the government to take away your God-given right to raise your children as you see fit. Homeschooling has always had many benefits, and now, more than ever, it's a great option. Find other like-minded parents, so you don't have to go it alone, and take the plunge. It will probably be the best decision you ever made.
Several years ago, I hired a young woman who had been home schooled. She was BY FAR the best employee I've ever hired. Not only was she well educated, she was responsible, professional, cooperative, and a "self-starter." On top of that, she had a wonderful personality so she got along well with her co-workers.
Imagine what our workforce would be like if there were more people like this young woman!
Regarding all that we --as mere laypersons-- know about this virus, the most optimistic explanation for this worldwide "vaccine" push is due to the hubris of man. Unfortunately, the more likely reason: the scientists/politicians/PTBs are pushing this, fully cognizant of its dire implications.
Yes, the more likely reason which is the actual reason, is that that they know fully what they are doing on purpose to make billions via reoccurring revenue to reduce the population. See Georgia Guidestones "commandment" number 1.
My kids are not vaccinated and they are not getting vaccinated. Fortunately they already have their early childhood vaccinations. My daughter would be due for guardasil in a few years, but pre-Covid, we had in our will that even if we die she is not to get that one.
We are raising them Catholic and they go to a conservative private Christian school. We aren’t getting them vaccinated for this, and will turn the reigns over to them down the road having years of preparation for them to have a legitimate religious exemption should they choose to use it.
Real freedom only comes from freedom from government. Whatever it takes, get your kids out of public school!!!
To summarize the above article. Mess with the immune system with experimental vaccines and the immune system gets messed up and creates much larger health problems. Don't vaccinate!
A very informative write. Thanks Having been on the Air Force for over 20 years, I was "mandated" the flue shot every year, and 11 of those years I still got the "flu". No "vaccines" or flu shots for me for the last (retired) 20 years, and I only got the flu 3 times. Go figure
Annual Vaccines for RNA viruses (FLU & now Covid) promote pathogenic priming.....the more you Vax the more sick you'll become. NIH actually has studies to this effect; I'm not sure any in charge ever reads them, though!
Your own testimony reveals quite a bit, the lies of taking deadly shots as supposed 'miracle medicine.'
Agree 1000%. Vaccinating not-at-risk children to "protect grandma" (even though it doesn't) is a horrific inversion of culture. Children are the future. We need to do whatever it takes protect them. Not the other way around.
My freedom and that of my children and grandchildren does not come by way of a syringe. Do. Not. Comply. This is war.
Unrelated, but I would like to suggest to Alex a brief piece that definitively details who / what orgs in the government are EXEMPT from the fake Biden mandates. Any upvotes?
It is very sad, but at this point the overwhelming reason the powers to be are mandating this for our children and our future, is money! Did everyone see Rogen coming out and saying his Dr has helped over 200 congressman take Ivermectin?
“Money” is the best case reason.
No it's not, it's about depopulation, please see my comment to who you responded to because ultimately this is about sacrifice to satan.
It's not about money for those who own the machines that print the money. Here's some help;
If you know anything about the NWO + Big-Pharma etc, you will know that they *DO* know what they are doing and *DO* know of the adverse and severe adverse reactions / devastating consequences etc. This is all about depopulation, always (See Georgia Guidestones "commandment" number 1). So of course this about harming all ages especially the children, it's all about power and control over mankind, this is reality.
You are correct.
Well i'm only sharing what i know to be factual. Glad to see you know this also. You are right also on the Ivermectin... here's something to consider: Ivermectin is anti-parasitical... isn't it interesting, if you do some competent criticdal reasoned digging, that apparently in some of the shots, it is alleged they are finding supposedly genetically modified nano-parasites?
They are finding all sorts of stuff in these shots. I saw a video on Graphene Oxide being found in them.
You are indeed right. Some Dr. Flemming who was on half-truth teller Alex Jones, stated there is no graphene oxide in it and i thought kind of "wait a second, i've seen videos with Karen Kingston a former Pfizer employee who provides evidence there *IS* graphene oxide in the shots, why is he claiming different? And this doctor was indeed exposing the evil of all this push for shots, specifically pointing out what happens to the blood cells and why people are having lack of breath etc, and yet said his team found no evidence of graphene in the shots, like come on man.
In addition to the Original Antigenic Sin, the reports of issues affecting menstrual cycles of young women are concerning. Providing this vaccine to young, pre-pubescent females could have unknown devastating consequences. The vaccine risk seems to clearly outweigh any benefit for children.
"Providing this vaccine to young, pre-pubescent females could have unknown devastating consequences."
Could? If you know anything about the NWO + Big-Pharma etc, you will know that they *DO* know what they are doing and *DO* know of the adverse and severe adverse reactions / devastating consequences etc. This is all about depopulation, always (See Georgia Guidestones "commandment" number 1). So of course this about harming all ages especially the children, it's all about power and control over mankind, this is reality.
Yeah but the guide stones also say, “Balance personal rights with social duties” and “ Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.” And “Prize truth....etc.” ?
You clearly missed how the first commandment is utterly satanic depopulation agenda and their supposed noble ideals are basically laying out the typical utter diabolic lies of a utopian society where you will be microchipped like a dog so you can be tracked everywhere you go with your money on your chip to which if you make them mad they just turn off the chip and you can't buy food, and thus you will be ruled over by authoritarian diabolists (New World Order realisation) in the Communist and/or Socialist technocracy. You should do some serious research on who put those stones there and what their views were, here's a hint, they were Freemasons, here's some help;
https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-georgia-guidestones/
I get that. I see you are right about the first commandment of the stones, but the first doesn’t stand alone, it’s part and parcel of all of them. Why would they include “balance personal rights” when clearly the order of the day is to steamroll over personal rights for the supposed common good?
A night on the town can affect menstrual cycles, and often has consequences. We should never make decisions based on unknown risks. The problem is the corrupt medical industry actively avoids characterizing risks, or benefits, of any treatments for this routine virus.
I am live-blogging the FDA's hearing right now on Pfizer's request for authorization of its Covid-19 vaccine in the 5-11 age group. So far what is clear that the only adverse event the FDA is even mildly interested in is heart inflammation, and on that the agency's scientists really have no idea what the long-term effects will be for children.
Beyond that, the sample size that Pfizer used for its clinical trial was far too small. There is no way to gauge either the risks or the benefits from this trial. There were no cases of severe illness in either the vaccinated or the unvaccinated in the trial. Hardly a sweeping endorsement for the vaccine.
You can follow along with me here:
https://darbyshaw.substack.com/p/listen-live-as-fda-considers-pfizers/comments
If they approve this (and it looks like the fix is in) I will never trust anything the FDA or the Feds say ever again.
It does look like the fix is in. Some of the senior people resigned a few months ago. Then multiple countries announced they were buying millions of doses. All this before the safety testing was even reviewed. I work in biomed and I have never seen anything like this. It is crazy.
This kind of rubber stamp "FDA Approval" does not make the jabs look legit. It makes everything the FDA has approved look shady AF.
True, but you also have to consider we have had many doctors and nurses already showinig through their own testimony that these injections are dangerous and killshots.
Thank you for sharing this Eric and your testimony... we are so heading into such a dark time, the rise of the Antichrist kingdom and many shall perish resisting it.
For me, FDA means "Fomenting Death Association" since i learned years ago not to trust them and i'm glad to see you are seeing this also.
The "safety data" deliberately kept the sample so small that they were able to declare something to the effect of "the sample is too small to gauge the impact of myocarditis". If they FDA doesn't stand up to this and make them run a much larger trial they have blood on their hands.
Well stated, and i would like to add, FDA has their hands covered in blood already so adding more blood will only be discernible by it being more fresh.
how do these people look in the mirror or sleep at night?
Here's an answer from God/Jesus through one of His Apostles;
1Timothy 4:1-2: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;...."
You see that part about seared consciences with a hot iron? The same applies to FDA, that they can sleep at night because of how seared their consciences are with a hot iron, they are dead in their conscience.
they are running a much larger trial, on all our kids!
Thanks for watching the hearing & keeping people up to date!
Thank you for this Darby and your taking initiative to do this.
Looks like Fauci is going to get his wish. This vaccine will be approved for the 5 to 11 age group today. A vaccine for infants, toddlers, and preschoolers will follow shortly. Consequently, there will be no control group for comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated, which is Fauci's greatest fear. You can read about it here:
https://darbyshaw.substack.com/p/faucis-glaring-cohort-problem
There are a lot of us in the control group and hopefully parents won’t be stupid about this and blindly vaccinate their kids. If I had to do it all over again, I would NOT put 1 vaccine in my kid’s bodies. Who’s to say that all the vaccines we have received over the years haven’t caused various health problems we are experiencing today as adults?
I always thought my wife was paranoid about vaccines. Now I think she was right all along. I work in biomed by the way so you don't want to lose people like me. But now I question the whole schedule. The vaccine blowback has begun.
We compromised and did not start the normal vaccine schedule until age 14. We had experienced many parents complain about infant reactions to vaccines so we decided to wait until the kids immune systems were more established. Since the actual risk from any of the diseases that were being vaccinated against was so low, felt it was an acceptable tradeoff. Now this Covid gene therapy, over my dead body with that be injected in our kids.
Yes. We also delayed. I was sympathetic to the reluctance to give so many jabs before 18 months, it seems incredibly reckless. When she still wanted to delay after 5 or 6 I thought she was being paranoid. But I no longer think that. The longstanding attenuated virus vaccines sure. But there turn out to be many on the schedule that are not like that! And I think they should all be thrown in the trash.
Apologize to your wife
What a sociopathic narcissistic F…
They have to use up the vials already purchased by our confiscated tax dollars...Of course the FDA will say YES.
A JAB In Every Arm.
Not mine.
a STAB in the dark
I feel I always have to apologize to at least Alex for the contents of my comments because they are very negative and cynical. That said, I can’t imagine why people don’t see the agenda of the Democrats/ Left. They haven’t killed enough people with Covid outright, they see it’s taking too long to kill people with vaccines/boosters, so now they’re going to starve us, freeze us to death, and pervasively crush hope and faith and encourage people to commit suicide.
Many I read here continually underestimate the absolute vile despicable agendas of sociopaths, they never relent.
As I’ve been writing here of late, there are many CATS here, and frankly, you need to run away, with the horrific despicable leftists, so shoo…
I agree completely. I'm amazed at how naïve I was just last year. I thought this whole Covid plandemic was about an election, how ignorant I was not seeing the big picture. What I used to think were conspiracy theories and crazy talk have become reality. What is happening today is not just about evil pharma greed or government incompetence. It is way more sinister and diabolical than that. If we don't recognize what we are fighting, we can't fight this and we won't survive. This is evil pure and simple. We are dealing with sociopaths and the entire world population is about to be enslaved into a world where peasants like us have will have no rights, no freedoms, no autonomy, and no property. If we do not protect these innocent children from these criminals, it will be the end of Western civilization. This is the hill we die on folks.
Our corporate HR person got a heads-up on the vax mandate under exec branch letterhead late last year. The letter said the administration would "stand behind" decisions made by companies to encourage the vaccinations, saying they were safe and effective and most employees would be willing to get the vaccine.
What this HR person told me is that the nationwide push-back against mandatory vaccination was something not expected by the administration. They thought everyone would be willing to get jabbed given how "deadly" they were told the virus was.
My suspicion is that, while Big Pharma knew that the vaccines might not be fully effective, they hoped they would be MOSTLY effective, and convinced Biden, et. al. that there was nothing to worry about. Further, that as the initial jab effectiveness waned, they had boosters ready to go and that they too would be welcomed by the public.
Turns out that half of America never bought the con. So now they are scrambling to figure out how to convince people that this is an "epidemic of the unvaccinated".
Of course, the wheels are coming off that bus too.
Thank you for agreeing.
That said, do the math of recent polling of Biden approval: assume 80% of the voters in 2020 were Demoncraps, so that is about 60+ million cretins, then the 75% who are fully behind Dementor makes it 45 million.
That means AT LEAST 45 million are willing to kill any and all on that hill, that is conservatively 15% of inhabitants on this soil.
I think it more, at least 20-25% hate this country so much, taking lives is superfluous to them.
Evil: relentless lying, shameless soulless hypocrisy, causing decay destruction and death, showing no remorse for consequences caused, and mocking and disdaining healthy accepted boundaries set by society for generations.
Watch out for them CATS of Conservatives/ Republicans/ cowards and aconfrontationalists. Civil Acquiescing Tolerant Stooges…
The way we fight back is to first get the RINOs in red state legislatures to get off their rear-ends and go back into special sessions to hold hearings, end mandates, hold local medical and pharmacy boards accountable for their mis-deeds, and so on.
I was really disheartened when I heard that Texas decided to do nothing about this in their last special session. At this rate, Texas going to go blue in the next presidential election I'm afraid.
Get RID of RINOs, they do not change, their allegiance is solely to themselves and worshiping cronies….
But who the heck is orchestrating all this? Don’t they have grandkids and family and want them to live a great life?
They want the same for them as for themselves; to rule!
Right. But if everyone is going to die who gets this vaccine e who the heck are they going to rule! Each other? It’s all so confusing.
Look at Gavin Newsom. He mandated the Covid vaccine for all kids including kindergarteners before the EUA is even available, but his own 12 year old child has not been jabbed. Congress and the Judiciary are exempt from vaccine mandates.
They are not jabbing themselves or their kin. And who is orchestrating all this? The WEF or World Economic Forum. These people have said publicly what their goal is - one world government where no one will have private property and a zero cash society. World leaders across the globe are talking about "Build Back Better". Look at what's happening in Australia with their "isolation" camps and the vaccine passports in Europe. I used to think all this was crazy talk. But, when evil people tell you what their plans are, you should believe them.
Thank you. I’m having a hard time with it I guess because I can’t wrap my head around it. You have one set of people saying be rebellious and start and family and then it makes me think why would you ever want to bring a child or have a grandchild in this world.
I regret choosing not to do it, (bring a child into this world) (or more accurately the world of the eighties and nineties, which now seems idillic and mystical from here in 2021) now I am too old. I was a member of the human extinction movement, but I was wrong.
just look who are alumni of the WEF young leaders program and you will it all sketched out. The other side have been doing this for a long long time.
you will SEE it all...*
The killing spree by the "healthcare" establishment is not limited to the denial of treatments or the vax and the boosters. If people have not heard Daniel Horowitz' interview with Dr. Brian Ardis (Ep 978) on Remdesivir. I highly recommend it.
We've heard more and more reports that Remdesivir can damage kidneys but the sad truth turns out to be that Fauci knew this before it was even rolled out as the only treatment in hospitals.
Remdesivir has a tragic safety record and was even trialed in Africa against Ebola along with 3 other monoclonal therapies. Remdesivir had the worst mortality rate of the 4 yet it was the one that Fauci claimed was safe and effective. He knew this and yet lied to the public about its record.
Of course, it's been clear for a long time that Fauci makes Mengele look like Mother Teresa, but now we know that the hospitals all know that Remdesivir kills too so they are just as culpable.
Whatever you do, don't go into the hospital unless you must. Certainly don't go in if you have Covid-like symptoms. You won't get treated. You will be offed.
Faux-i is a sociopathic narcissistic 💩bag. Trump should have canned him, but, ALL our “leaders” are selfish ignorant uncaring personality disordered cretins who want power and accolades, and now decimate those who these scum deem irrelevant inconsequential and disposable.
But, the public sucks, F hope…
Georgey C was on the mark!
"Trump should have canned him"
Don't you mean, Trump should never have hired him in the first place?
Fauci had been notoriously wrong on a wide variety of healthcare issues for years, including his AIDS treatment debacle. Trump knew this (or should have known).
Trump's one smart move was bringing in Scott Atlas but then Trump stabbed him in the back later (as he had a wont to do on so many occasions with other qualified people.)
Imagine if Atlas had been allowed to run the show. He could have shown Fauci and Birx the door and we wouldn't be in this mess today.
Trump was interviewed by Bill O'Reilly very recently. Absolutely REFUSED to admit that not firing Fauci was a mistake. Over and over again.
Trump is a shitbag or an idiot; probably both. Regret voting for that douche.
Hey Fred, don't sugar-coat it. What do you REALLY think ;-)
Trump did several grievous errors regarding the pandemic (and I'll forgive him of his initial reaction since no one knew one way or the other what was going on with the CCP virus in February of 2020 except for Fauci and friends).
• He hired a known huckster, Fauci, to front the response.
• He pushed "Operation Warp Speed" which anyone with even a modicum of understanding of the drug development process would know was impossible.
• He indemnified Big Pharma against any liability, same for hospitals.
• He put in place huge bonuses for hospitals to administer the killer drug Remdesivir and to put patients on ventilators.
• After push-back from Fauci, et. al, he backed down on his plans to provide HCQ and other early treatments.
• He held ridiculous daily pressers that only magnified the fear porn that was already being pushed by the press. Instead of bringing in experts to talk about treatment and such, Trump himself would drone on and on to the press with nonsense.
• He allowed mail-in voting to proceed (yes, he had huge leverage to stop that abomination) even though smarter people were warning him in the summer that fraud would be rampant. He chose not to take action but instead, blustered on Twitter about it but that he was going to win "UGE" anyway.
Others can add to this list but Trump's many failures on this front are largely why we are where we are today.
Fine, but, Why Trump has no business even considering running again because he demands total fealty to his presence, and, he ain’t a good judge of character in the first place.
Yeah, choose between a narcissist vs a sociopath, why the last 2 elections were bypassed by me, NOT voting for evil and chaos with these Republ-ocrat scumbags…
We need to make sure that in the upcoming primaries, we nominate someone other than a narcissist or a sociopath.
Well i mainly agree with you, but what are CATS?
Civil Acquiescing Tolerant Stooges
That's good, thank you.
Geez, people don't find your comments optimistically upbeat? 🤔
Something evil is certainly afoot, but these poison shots aren't going to move any faster than the original virus.
Really, these shots won’t accelerate Co\/id reactions and chronic illnesses that were contained prior.
What will you all say when Life Expectancy in this sewer hole of former America drops by 3-5 years in 2022???
Go back to your knees in your homes now…
I was never "anti-vax," but I certainly am now. I never distrusted doctors, the medical establishment, and government "science experts"---but I do now.
Time to interview Dr J Mikovits and take her seriously to gain better understanding
And follow her "recovery protocol" which I have been doing since I got educated
The delicacy of a child’s immune system is so compromised by the assault of existing mass vaccination programs. Now we have the ultimate—the Cod-19 shots—that hook many children and will cause damage, the extent of which we are yet to fathom.
Yes... well stated, it's all about lowering the world's population because the megalomaniacal rulers convince all the naive, unlearned fools that supposedly the earth is overpopulated.
The FDA is just a revolving door to a high paying job with Big Pharma. The FDA meeting today is Kabuki theater because they’re an instrumental part of the Plandemic and could care less about harming children.
In light of these facts, this article is horrifying:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/second-opinions/95265?xid=nl_secondopinion_2021-10-26
The misunderstanding of the facts and realities displaying in this article are profound. Practically every rationale presented for vaccinating 5-11-year olds is erroneous. Just to give one quick example, she says kids should be vaccinated so they don't bring COVID home to adults. This is the equivalent of continuing to believe the sun goes around the earth.
Keep in mind the author is a licensed Pediatrician! The only people allowed to post to the site supposedly are other doctors. There's one mild rebuttal, but if anyone here is eligible to post to that site, this thinking must be confronted so that this Doctor's peers understand what is really at stake.
'It's impossible to get a man to understand something if his paycheck depends upon him not understanding it.' - a quote from someone a lot smarter than me made decades ago.
I'm in Washington State, and today I heard someone call it the Australia of the US, and they aren't wrong. Remember we are the home state of Bill and Melinda Gates, so not hard to figure out why we are going full Globalist Covid Tyranny. Thinking we will have to get in a car and leave everything behind or eventually be marched into Covid Camps?
CRAZY world we live in right now.
PRAY!
I've heard Bill Gates is currently living in Wyoming.
His divorce is being handled in Seattle, WA, and I heard he is hiding out at his mansion in Indian Wells, CA. His family ties are here in WA, and his tentacles reach pretty far here.
Regarding kids, yes, if necessary move. Never would I vaccinate kids against this virus. But I think making a stand begins with adults. Once adults acquiesce, that is when those in power go after your kids. I truly think that the only way out of this situation is for people (whether vaccinated or not) to refuse to provide their vaccination status to their employers (see Chicago police). There is power in numbers. Asking for a medical or religious exemption gives your employer, locality, state power over you as an individual. I'm not subject to a mandate, but I really wish someone would take a case to the Supreme Court based on the fact that science does not support these mandates, much less mass vaccinations.
Why do you think the jurisdiction you move to won't become as tyrannical as the one you left? Running and hiding seldom gives the best outcomes. Learn to fight.
Depends on if you are invested in where you live. I live in California, but it is not my home nor does it share my values. If this happened where I grew up, then yes, I would stay and fight.
It only depends on how willing you are to submit to bullies. If you run from them in California, they'll just catch up to you somewhere else.
Again, not running because I am not invested in living in California for many reasons. Covid restrictions are just one more reason. I have wanted to move for many years.
Oh God, it was just approved for recommendation. What a disaster. I honestly thought there was some chance of pushback from the advisory committee; I know I’m hopelessly naive. I just want to weep. I have not been prone to conspiracy thinking — basically chalked this up to mob think, greed, power, but, damn, it’s hard not to think someone’s trying to harm us (!!) Sorry to go there! I might feel better about all this tomorrow, but today I’m heartbroken. And I’m going to have to figure out what to do in this city of folks cheering this news. 💔💔
I also have concerns about women of childbearing age taking that shot.
I think that's an understatement
Some charter schools and private schools will not enforce mandates so consider that before moving. They will not advertise obviously but you can ask. It's sort of like their policy on gender. Different from big public schools but don't advertise. So consider this option before picking up and moving if you can't. Our private school in Indiana went from 300 to over 400 in 1 year due to mandates gender CRT etc.
Portland Public Schools in Oregon meets today at 6pm to discuss mandating the vaccine for 12+ in Portland Schools. Make your voice heard.
Teachers are zeros not heroes…
The immune system created by our Creator is far superior and more complicated than the greatest scientists can discern. A experienced physician and former professor at a well established medical school who very successfully treated my wife for migraines, looked at me one day and said, "Lee, we only know 1% about the human body". So we are risking lives on 1%!!
Maybe that doc only knows1%.Others know much more. Indeed, we know much more cumulatively than any single person can master alone. It's really important that we perfect AI assistants for doctors to do the resear h necessary for quicker diagnoses.
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
I would say that Donald Rumsfeld's well known quote is applicable to many fields, and most especially medicine.
An Ai assistant is only going to confuse matters.
Maybe in pure research but at the bedside never. There are about 115 studies published every hour of every day, not going to help to hear a summary of that while you are deciding what to do next.
Current AIs aren't up to the task. Soon. In a few years, most medical care will be by televisit with a computer, and most docs will work on improving the programming.
Time will tell.
Thank you Alex for elevating the discussion from the gut level to the level where one can use one's brain. I want to add my two cents worth. Imho, vaccines must be used to protect individuals from a disease, not to protect a society from epidemic. The moment we forget this fundamental principle, we slide into the land of social (read socialist / fashist) behaviour, which inevitably leads to vaccinating kids who are not at risk from the disease, just to protect adults, who are afraid of it. I am not supportive of sacrificing my granddaughters on the altar of COVID religion. I will do all I can to not let it happen.
The arguments for vaccination are not rational, and rational response to irrational arguments have not been, nor will ever be effective. The only rational response is not argument, but litigation and resistance.
The best response to those who ask for rational arguments is, how has that worked so far? And why do you think trying the same approach again will give different results? In other words, don't be insane.
Covid "vaccines" all use nano technology. Nano technology is experimental. They're experimenting on kids. So what if it creates a life-long dependency; just means more money. It's what drug pushers do.
I really hope people get this. It's not "conspiracy theory" but a very real agenda rolling out in real time. People who think this madness is just mere incompetency or tyrants on a power trip are woefully ill-informed and wasting humanity's collective, precious time.
Investigative journalist Whitney Webb's following article is must-reading:
"This global health DARPA, known as Wellcome Leap, seeks to achieve “breakthrough scientific and technological solutions” by or before 2030, with a focus on “complex global health challenges.” The Wellcome Trust is open about how Wellcome Leap will apply the approaches of Silicon Valley and venture capital firms to the health and life science sector. Unsurprisingly, their three current programs are poised to develop incredibly invasive tech-focused, and in some cases overtly transhumanist, medical technologies, including a program exclusively focused on using artificial intelligence (AI), mobile sensors, and wearable brain-mapping tech for children three years old and younger.
"This Unlimited Hangout investigation explores not only the four current programs of Wellcome Leap but also the people behind it. The resulting picture is of an incredibly sinister project that poses not only a great threat to current society but to the future of humanity itself. An upcoming Unlimited Hangout investigation will examine the history of the Wellcome Trust along with its role in recent and current events."
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/a-leap-toward-humanitys-destruction/
It's also what engineers do, and chefs, and TV producers. And doctors. It's how progress is made. Problems arise when experimenters ignore risks to satisfy their obsession for an outcome.