COMMENTS FROM DR. MONICA GANDHI AT END OF ARTICLE:
The importance of what Dr. Monica Gandhi wrote this morning is hard to overstate.
Dr. Gandhi is an infectious diseases professor at the University of California, San Francisco who has been among the most reasonable medical voices about Covid - neither a conspiracy theorist nor a lockdown-loving screecher. In PANDEMIA I describe her as “the rarest of breeds,” a Covid centrist.
She was also very pro-mRNA vaccine.
Until now.
This morning, in her weekly email newsletter, Dr. Gandhi wrote that:
And finally, Omicron exposure likely to combat other variants in future since the individual has seen the whole virus; otherwise, would recommend a booster with a whole inactivated virion vaccine like Covaxin/Ocugen (EUA pending at FDA since November 5). [Emphasis added.]
Covaxin is nothing like the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. It doesn’t hijack our cells and force them to make spike proteins. Instead, like many older vaccines for other viruses, it presents the body with a complete (but disabled) viral particle to allow our immune systems to build their defenses without the dangers of being infected.
I don’t know how well Covaxin works - though I need to start looking at the data and finding out.
What I know is this: Dr. Gandhi is telling her American readers that if they want a booster, they are better off TAKING A VACCINE THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO THEM than the mRNA vaccines.
“EUA pending at FDA since November 5” translates into: the Food and Drug Administration is reviewing an Emergency Use Application for Covaxin. For whatever reason, the agency seems to be in no particular hurry to act. Until the FDA approves the EUA, it cannot be used in the United States.
In other words: people are better off waiting for a vaccine that may not be available for months - if ever - than taking the Pfizer or Moderna shots.
Unlike me, Dr. Gandhi is too smart to come out and say openly the mRNA vaccines are useless (if not dangerous) at this point. She knows exactly how far in front of the consensus she can get and still have access to the elite media bluechecks.
But she knows the implications of what she wrote. And she knows how it will be interpreted.
Now you do, too.
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Notes from a (short) interview with Dr. Gandhi that followed the original publication of this story (which was headlined “Dr. Monica Gandhi is done with the mRNA vaccines":
Dr. Gandhi repeatedly said the story and especially the headline did not reflect her views.
Dr. Gandhi declined to participate in a Q&A [as I offered] or explain why she had not mentioned the possibility of boosting with the mRNA vaccines or any other specifics in her newsletter post. She also declined to say if she thought more mRNA boosters were appropriate for the general population. She said she had received many emails about the original post.
Her direct quotes:
“I’m not done with mRNA vaccines.”
“I think Dr. Graham [Barney Graham, who helped developed the vaccines at the National Institutes of Health] should win the Nobel Prize.”
“I think they’re fantastic vaccines.”
“It’s silly to write that.”
“I think they are really safe and effective vaccines.”
Hysterical that Psaki justifies denial of monoclonal antibodies because they are ineffective against omicron, but still pushes the vaccine, which is just as ineffective. They’re not even trying anymore!
That and the fact that DeSantis had set up clinics to provide monoclonals to Florida. Can't have DeSantis saving lives and making every other Governor look like the incompetents that they are in advance of 2024.
Also, if monoclonals are an effective treatment, the EUA for the clot shots automatically have to disappear. You only get emergency use authorizations is there is no effective treatment for a disease.
And it's in part because they know there are millions of brainless Americans whose sole source of news (sic) is what the alphabet legacy media tell them, millions of Americans too lazy to do their own research, millions of American LIVs, millions of Americans with rudimentary (if any) critical thinking skills.
To be sure, there's a lot of crossover in those groups.
THIS is killing me in particular. You're supposed to be committed to health and well-being and open analysis of facts. Ignoring mountains of concerning and contradictory data does not fit with "First, do no harm."
Merck and Pfizer have the two pill treatments ... I don't think the monos are manufactured by Pfizer ... It has seemed obvious for a while that the USA medical establishment is owned by Pfizer
It's all planned , and traditional vaccines for covid is not part of the plan. Human engineering via mRNA is the plan. We are in the greatest experiment in history.
I hate to be in the position of defending the FDA, but from what I've read, the monoclonal antibodies are ineffective against Omicron. Just as the jab is ineffective. Which, if you think about it, makes sense. The monoclonal antibodies are based on the original strain of Covid - as is the jab. If the jab doesn't created antibodies to stop Omicron, how could the monoclonal antibodies?
The FDA says they are simply banning an ineffective treatment. But if that is the case, why aren't they banning the ineffective jabs???
One other point, Jerry. You wrote "...but from what I've read, the monoclonal antibodies are ineffective against Omicron...". Is there clinical evidence of this, or is it just commentary from the commentariat?
Jeff Childers observed in his Coffee & Covid Substack from yesterday, "The FDA’s rationale was that these two mABs are “not effective against Omicron,” although there is no clinical evidence showing the lack of effectiveness, much less a total failure to help."
Childers also pointed out that "the FDA has green-lighted wide scale distribution of Merck’s Covid pill, Molnupiravir, which according to a December 13 article in the journal Nature, failed to show any more efficacy than a placebo in its final clinical trials."
Molnupiravir, YEAH!, even though no more efficacy than a placebo per CLINICAL TRIALS.
Monoclonals, NO!, even though no clinical evidence of their ineffectiveness.
He says that with the wrong variant, the monoclonal antibodies could actually enhance the infection, rather than tamp it down. (Similar to the fear that the jabs may cause ADE.) He says the FDA is aware of this possibility, which is why they pulled them.
I have no doubt it is also about the money. It always is.
Since it appears that natural immunity works against Omicron, at least to an extent, it follows that monoclonal antibodies would also work to the same extent, or nearly so, since they are essentially the immune response of a recovered patient.
Bingo. And im no fan of any of our so called experts. All I know is they are killing people in the name of research. Just what that research is for only time will tell. But its got nothing to do with safety. ANY of it🙄
But that's not really defending the FDA, because, as you point out in your final sentence, they're not banning the jabs even though the exact same reason as the monoclonal ban applies to the jab. So in "defending" the FDA, you're *actually* exposing their dishonesty and hypocrisy.
Furthermore, so *what* if monoclonal is ineffective? Is it dangerous? No, they only say it's "ineffective". How many OTHER things has the FDA *not* removed from drug store shelves on the grounds that they're "ineffective"? Chondroitin? Bee pollen? Ad infinitum.
Interesting too ....Why hasn't the FDA and the administration pushed for more production of Sotrovimab.... apparently the monoclonal antibody treatment for Omicron? I believe AstraZeneca also had a monoclonal treatment for Omicron. People are dying and the government and doctors are withholding vital treatment. Patients should be presented with any and all available treatment options... risks/side effects/effectiveness....and let them make the decision. Doing nothing until it is too late also has a negative side effect...death. Just unbelievable that the are doing this and expect Americans to sit back and be scared and devastated and feel helpless watching their loved ones die because of utter failure in our government and health care system.
I had OMGicron and it was a head cold. I don't understand why anyone would need the MA's when you can use Saline Nasal Spray and a box of tissues. That being said, people are still getting Delta, maybe not in the numbers as before but it's still out there. Leave it up to Dr's discretion since they're the ones seeing the patients and evaluating symptoms.
That's how it should be all the time...re: "Leave it up to Dr's discretion since they're the ones seeing the patients and evaluating symptoms." But instead bureaucrats and politicians and so called health experts are making the blanket choice for everybody and people are needlessly dying.
From what I read, there are no clinical studies that show it is ineffective. The last studies performed showed it was effective enough to warrant an EUA. Nothing since then contradicts that finding.
I'm not disagreeing and not defending the FDA. Just reporting what I've read.
I don't think the monoclonal antibodies should have been banned, because unlike the jabs, there are no safety risks (short term or long term) with the monoclonals. At worst, it's wasted money. (Can't see how anyone in the government can use that as a rationale, considering the amount of money they flush down the toilet every day.)
So if Tylenol doesnt work well for one persons pain we should yank it from all people who could possibly benefit? Makes perfect sense. If you want to sell a replacement 🙄
Yes, more money for big pharma and Pfizer is the biggest of the big pharmas. Pfizer does not produce monoclonal antibody treatment. Also continued treatment of covid patients with monoclonal antibodies could create additional mRNA "vaccine" hesitancy. Covid $$ should only go to Pfizer say the corrupt communists (apologies for the redundancy) running our country/world.
And see the new pills. Merck's was "no better than placebo," according to their own trials, and you can be sure they used an actual inert placebo, unlike the gaming of the ivermectin study using an active compound also under investigation for Covid prevention to get the "no better than placebo" label. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03667-0
The Merck drug just roller out by the Ukrainian Ministry of Heath .... what a waste of money. The clowns don't understand , IF they can get their hands on it, it must be useless.
The larger richer countries would take it all up if it worked
Just like Alex said, if monoclonal antibodies are not effective for omicron , the same rule applies for the current vaccines which were made based on the alpha strain.
If everything that's not effective against the Covid strains were discontinued...EVERYTHING that governments have imposed, mandated, and done since the beginning would be discontinued.
Virtually NOTHING they've done has had any positive effect against the Chinese virus.
Senator Johnson's panel earlier in the week is worth everyone's time to watch. And looking forward to your piece Alex on Ivermectin and other known remedies being used out there.
I live in a very, very blue place where it feels like close to 100% are jabbed - my kids are DEFINITELY outliers - so it's good to be reminded that not everyone is completely insane.
Us too....but considering THREE of my son's closest friends (and he only has about 10 close friends, half of which are vaccinated)....ended up in the ER and currently seeing cardiologists due to Myocarditis... people (at least some) are starting to wonder what they've done. One literally dropped of heart attack symptoms at a track meet. My son came home saying "Thank you so much for questioning these vaccines and not pushing me to take one!" Needless to say, these teens (and hopefully their parents) are questioning their own judgement.
OH MY GOD!!! Are you serious???? This is horrific. I wonder if it was a hot lot? That's so upsetting. But...YAY for your son understanding your decision and appreciating it.
It's unbelievable. The first teens happened after his second shot in late summer. The second teen after his initial shot in the fall. This last one just happened in early December after booster. It's heartbreaking, and makes you really wonder about long term heart damage.
I feel your pain. I also live in a blue state and it seems as if all 5-11 year olds are jabbed. But I checked the state database and only 35% got it. So I think there are a lot more of us out there but too afraid to be out about it.
It sure doesn't seem like it when you live in a blue area. And as a lifelong liberal dem (until the last election...I finally understand I have been voting against myself), surrounded by ppl who identify that way, you can imagine that except for online in places like this... I very much feel like an outlier! But I am very glad for the reminder. Bc from here it seems like the whole country has gone mad
We are in a blue area and the jabbed kids are still getting sick. Glad to have this substack as an island of sanity. As Dr Malone has said we need to protect our children from the madness. The GOP has issues but at least they don’t want to go full Canada or Australia on us.
Even the teens - all the teens in my kid's class have gotten their BOOSTERS. And they're all so happy about it. Like the teacher would say, "Any good news to share?" and some of the teens shared that they were so happy bc they got boosted. And my kid is stunned and horrified.
Your anecdote reminds me of the absurdity of all these people documenting their jabs.
Never have I seen so many photos of people getting a shot. Because they can’t get enough of posting them online or sending the photos to friends and family.
Even Dr. Malone has such a photo, which for some reason gives me pause.
Like next month...the FEAR Porn is already in the daily news about Omicron being dangerous for the 1 to 5 yo group. Fauci says vax approval soon...the culling continues.
"culling" :( Sure feels like it... I know someone who excitedly enrolled her baby and toddler in the trial. Her BABY AND HER TODDLER. She was EXCITED. It was horrible to watch.
Comirnaty still isn't available in the US months after getting approved. Why? Because without the EUA, they are liable for adverse damage. But if they can get the shot approved for children, they get the liability protection expanded to everyone including adults.
We are pushing this dangerous shots on healthy children to protect big pharma. Everything is upside down.
People criticize vaxxing kids as putting them at risk to protect the old. That's awful if it were true, but anyone with a functioning brain understands the shots don't prevent infection or transmission and therefore does not protect the old. Big pharma is the only beneficiary in vaxxing kids for covid.
“For whatever reason, the agency seems to be in no particular hurry to act.” My interpretation-we don’t want to lose our Pfizer kickbacks just yet. FDA is a Department of Big Pharma.
"For whatever reason, the agency seems to be in no particular hurry to act."
It should be blindingly obvious by now that Pfizer owns the FDA.
That is not to say that this new vaccine is without issue, but Fauci is already pushing the Pfizer Omicron boosters and they will almost assuredly get swift approval while their competitors languish in review purgatory.
They've been doing the same thing to the Novavax vaccine, which is a vector vaccine. Basically, they inject you with the spike proteins. The same company has made a pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine the same way and it seems to work. But that's neither here nor there. While the EU has okayed the Novavax vaccine, the US won't. This is why the conspiracy theories. You can't blame people for going out and buying tinfoil and making hats when you're pulling monoclonal antibodies because, you claim, they don't help with omicron, but you keep shoving the original vaccines, which also don't work for omicron obviously, and you won't let any other vaccines that people might be more comfortable with out in public with no more research done on them than the ones you're shoving on everyone that won't work. In short, if you don't want people to be suspicious, do not act in suspicious ways.
ALL VA$$INES are NOT SAFE OR EFFECTIVE. I want to hope that people have learned in the last 2 years the scam of the va$$ine industry and how it has devastated our childrens health in the last 30 years when injections went from 7 to 72 injections. Horror.
I appreciate her stance. But there is no need for Covaxin for this “disease” either. Especially not if it has been rushed to production with little to no data regarding its safety and effectiveness. Vaccines dont have to be MRNA technology ( can be “traditional “) to be harmful. We have TONS of evidence to point this out. How about NO VACCCINES for this digital i.D. nudging boondoggle?
Once the covidians redefined anti-vaxxer to include people opposed to mandatory vaccines, we should all be proud anti-vaxxers. The more I learn from people like RFK, the more I'm moving toward proud anti-vaxxer in the traditional sense. The industry has been broken for a lot longer than covid.
For any reasonable, thinking person there is no basis for trust. Trust is earned. And IMHO its given on a case by case basis. I need to see receipts. Whats the line? “ When people show you who they are, believe them”? Well, many people have shown me who they are in the last two years and I believe them. I believe they have given me every reason not to trust them or anything they say or do.
The safety data for Covaxin is perfect. It was not rushed to production. They weren't reinventing the wheel. The technology existed and is proven safe and effective. So, it's safe and actually works, so let's keep pumping mRNA garbage that doesn't work and is unsafe.
Better late than never, I suppose, but I’m just a nobody with a Master’s degree and I’ve known since the get go that mRNA vaccines were a bad idea. Anyone who consulted the literature early on would have known that the spike protein (via natural infection) was the putative culprit in the systemic inflammatory response that killed so many COVID patients. It’s distressing how incurious — and yet, imperious — so many health professionals are on this topic.
Doctors have thoroughly bought into the system, and I don't mean in a financial way. From medical school on up through all of the journal articles and the continuing medical education conferences, it's all one narrative that they're told all of their professional lives. My husband is a doctor, and when health professionals got the jab in late December, he went along with it, even though he was concerned about the new mRNA technology. This morning he told me, "I just believed in the system." Back in December, I said, "No thanks" when he told me that they had Moderna to spare, and I was welcome though I'm not a healthcare professional. All of these people are very "smart," but they've been indoctrinated in the Big Pharma lies, and only a few of them have realized how they've been played (and some may realize it but don't want to admit it because doctors often have very big egos). Fortunately for my husband and his patients, he knows the truth now and isn't sure he can recommend the vaccine even to his older sick patients. That may mean his job, of course.
I'm another nobody w/a MS (molec bio/immunology). 100% agree. Awful idea to have cells in your body expressing spike. I know now multiple people having what appear to be autoimmune issues to various organs/tissues post jab. Liver, pancreas most common in my neck of the woods. The LNPs went anywhere and everywhere. And your body makes spike in unknown amounts, for unknown periods of time. HOW did they "get away" with this? WHY were no other viral proteins besides spike considered for mRNA vaccines? This can't be by accident.
Forgive me, but why is Pfizer and Dr. Fauci so hell bent on developing a "vaccine" for Omicron strain if, by all accounts as we currently are led to believe, there are no serious complications with this variant. Would we all not be better served to simply get Omicron and get on with it? I understand that Pfizer and Moderna have always looked at this as a revenue opportunity. With the original virus, perhaps there was a slim margin of virtue in what they were attempting (very slim). However, it would seem now to be more evident than ever that they simply are trying to find a continuous revenue stream. If an ineffective vaccine for the common cold (Omicron), than why not one for dandruff, acne, obesity, diabetes, ibs, depression, anxiety....and so on. The point is, if a vaccine only ameliorates and doesn't prevent, than what's to stop them from promulgating said lunacy?
John...because he and they (big pharma who Fauci is beholden too)) can! Why wouldn't they? I mean there is absolute zero accountability! We all know the definition of insanity right?
Considering previous (attempted) coronavirus vaccines failed badly, I don't see any reason to think these will work any better. And I'd be damned suspicious of any trial data without absolute full disclosure and independent confirmation. On second thought, I'd just assume it was false information.
I totally disagree with taking a vaccine, mRNA or not, that has not been thoroughly and properly tested for safety and efficacy. The IFR and survival rate for this virus DO NOT warrant the use of untested vaccines of any stripe!!
The deliberate tactic from the beginning was to call these shots "vaccines", all the way back to Trump. That planted the seed in 90% of minds that these were like traditional vaccines. If they had been called "gene therapies" or "gene drugs" people would have run a mile before taking them. And if Dr Malone had spoken up at that point in time, it might have made a difference, but he was silent. And who silenced Prof Robert Borrody, the Australian scientist who first proposed using Ivermectin back in April 2020?
Boosters, schmoosters...we don't need any vaccines for a virus with a 99% survival. Not an mRNA, not Covaxin. There are always risks with vaccines. Please stop with the promotion of "good" vaccines for Covid. It's just more money for Pharma. Also, I hate the term "Covid centrist," as it implies that someone like me, who thinks this whole false pandemic and the rush to a forced, dangerous vaccine, is an extremist. I am not an extremist. I am smart, educated and informed on this topic.
I don't disagree, but I would not say "stop promoting' anything - the fact is that Substack is a free speech platform and if Alex ultimately determines that Covavax/Novavax are decent vaccines, I want him to post that. Of course, others are free to disagree. I am anxious in learning more about the non-mRNA vaxxes. If at the VERY LEAST, the folks who feel like they need to get one or are forced to - and I know many who fall into this camp - they would provide a safer alternative. That said, I do agree it's all rushed and that the government has given people massive distrust due to mandates/rushing things/lectures/inability to admit they failed.
Right, of course all information is welcome. I took issue with the assumption that a Covaxin vaccine would inherently be "better." It would need rigorous research and trials to be shown safe and effective...and then maybe. Or maybe not. Lots of non-mRNA vaccines have proven dangerous to people. The mandating of any vaccine is an entirely different discussion and I am personally close to people forced into a choice, too. But I appreciate your nuance.
The WHO currently authorizes 10 covid vaccines and lists 30+ in use in different countries around the world. So why are US citizens stuck with these three garbage products? Cuba has some vaccines that don't expose you to the full spike protein, just the receptor binding domain. But that's Cuba.
I am 64, haven’t had Covid or any variant as far as I know. I didn’t trust the vaccine from the beginning because of how hard they were pushing it on everyone, not just risk groups. You’d have thought people were dropping on the streets, but I saw and heard none of that in my circles. Sure, several got sick, but none were hospitalized. They set up dozens of huge trailers for temporary hospital beds that went unused. The mask/no mask thing didn’t help. For months we’ve been seeing evidence that the vaccines don’t work very well. Masks have never worked. I’ll keep reading and listening, but I don’t need any more convincing. I’m not gonna get it.
Before Covid, I thought vaccines were one the greatest medical interventions. Shortly before Covid hit, I got two different vaccines. One to protect me and one to protect my next door neighbor's baby. My idea and my choice, on both counts.
Now, my earlier assumptions would need to be verified with actual data. I have learned about OAS and the questionable efficacy of the flu vaccine in the needy populations. How peer reviewers don't have access to any of the raw data for any drug that they review (that data is only available if there is a lawsuit). That in the Pfizer mRNA trial, more people died in the vaccine arm than in the placebo arm.
If I have had serious questions about the Covid vaccines (I made a list of my concerns and it gets longer by the day), I can't understand why doctors haven't also had a healthy skepticism. Knowing what I know as a lay person, I can't understand why any doctor would ever recommend the mRNA vaccines to anyone under 60. So I still question Dr. Gandhi's discernment.
I'm with you. I used to be contemptuous of anti-vaxxers.
Along with all the rest I've recently learned, I read statistics that babies who receive the flu vax (recommended by the CDC and approved for such by the FDA) are five times as likely to be hospitalized for RSV. WTH?!?
This is especially hard hitting for me because three of my little nieces and nephews were born in early winter, received a flu vax right off the bat and were hospitalized for RSV. The most recent one just got out of the hospital and it's nothing short of a miracle that he survived.
I never got around to researching why anti-vaxxers felt the way they did, so I was reserving judgment. Plus, either way, I favor bodily autonomy and parents' rights to decide what is best for their children.
That is nuts about the flu vax for children. Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear about your nieces and nephews. So glad they recovered.
Geez, we are learning so much about the FDA, CDC, NIH, HHS, so-called scientific journals, medical establishment, etc. And most of it, not good. The one upside is that I am invested more than ever in living a healthy life, so I need the least amount of medical care and medications.
Exactly. She also actively encourages vaxxing kids as young as 5 with mRNA.Maybe she's been paid to promote this other vaccine but I expect she will happily go back to beating on the mRNA drum as soon as Pfizer's new Omicron vaccine comes out.
You’ve got this right Alex. I’ve had numerous discussions with Gandhi about various pandemic issues and she knows full well the data showing strangely high correlations between vaccination and case rates.
aramis720 any idea how to get a link to the newsletter Alex references? I know of someone who needs to get a booster and I'm looking for backup to steer them away from the mRNA shots asap
Thank you Alex for keeping us on top of the unfolding awakening.
Also, for anyone interested there is a fund set up on GiveSendGo for DJ Ferguson. He is the 31 year old husband and father of 2 (and one on the way) being denied a heart transplant by Brigham and Women's Hospital because he will not get the mRNA jab. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2GFG
"Dr. Gandhi is too smart to come out and say openly the mRNA vaccines are useless..."
That's not being smart, that's being dishonest. Having the "elite media bluechecks" should not be the goal of any honest scientist with a conscience at this point.
Careful, Berenson. You're ripping your own mask off with such statements.
Many experts have been openly saying that "mRNA vaccines are useless (if not dangerous) at this point", for 2 years now. Dr. Gandhi, like Alex, are a little late to the game. But at least they're coming around to that reality now.
There were some who shouting from the rooftop that to mass "vaccinate" in the middle of a pandemic was dangerous and useless. Unfortunately, they were censored, mocked and marginalized.
I'm glad I listened to them and never offered myself to become part of the grand experiment.
For sure on that point. The redundancy is pretty intense now overall. Just this morning had Fox on in background and Brett Baier was doing a segment about Fauci early emails regarding the Wuhan lab leak and it was simply rehashed same information we have known for how long now? Brett came off like it was breaking news or something. Just goes round and round and lots of blah blah blah without ONE person in jail for these crimes against humanity two years in
Even the left wing media was admitting the lab leak last summer. Unfortunately, they only admitted it on Page C8 at the bottom, so idiots like my sister are still fully convinced that this all started with a poor, unfortunate bat.
I have a similar sister although even she is having a wake up WTF feeling with what she has seen the puppet do in less than a year. My feeling is there are many many like her who feel betrayed and duped on various levels
If she is showing no signs at this point of becoming aware probably won't, but its all relative. Perhaps some simply need to be HIT hard over the head with a reality moment of awakening!
Here's Fauci lying about Covaxin/Ocugen when asked why the FDA hasn't approved it. Fauci lied and said that OCGN hasn't applied. They did...on November 5th.
Fauci: What do you mean alternative? It’s not an alternative. It’s another vaccine. We don’t need another vaccine; we have plenty of vaccines, they have not applied to get approved. When you try to get approved, the FDA looks at the data, and if the data are in order and give you a good scientific rationale to approve it, the FDA will approve it. There are no interventions that are not being approved for reasons other than they’ve either not been submitted for approval or the data are not strong enough to warrant approval.
yet he is STILL the highest paid Government employee 40 years in. His salary paid in full by you and I and his soon to be cushy pension (AGAIN PAID BY US) when he chooses to fade away never held to real account. The # 1 crisis in this world is ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY!
I am actually surprised, which doesn't seem to happen much today, that this is the first time I have heard about Covaxin. An actual possible vaccine. It sounds like someone didn't line enough pockets to get this passed for emergency use. Or maybe they need to offer stock options to people heading the FDA, CDC, and Fauci?
Dr. Gandhi now joins the unoffical cohort of Conspiracy Theorists and domestic terrorists because, the science, or something. Now anything she writes, says, whispers or even thinks will be promptly buried by the gutter press and she will be sent to the back of the classroom to keep the likes of Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch and Joe Rogan company. Kudos to her!!!
File this under quotes by fools that will look stupid in the fullness of time. MSNBC - Morning Joe today (1:07 mark): “We just can’t keep shutting down our country because of these people who would rather take Ivermectin than get a vaccine that is SAFER THAN ASPIRIN.”
It's especially funny because far more people die from Tylenol overdoses than taking Ivermectin, even in large doses.
I've seen men get injected with a dose intended for a full grown bull when the bull bucked in the chute at the wrong time. It's quite uncomfortable because ivermec injections burn, but no ill effects whatsoever. Just rub it a minute and do the next bull.
For decades the pharma industry could not develop a covid vaccine. Kept running into problems. Until the liability waiver is taken away, it seems nuts to consider any of their new vaccines unless you are at extreme risk and don't mind the risk of the new shots.
After all this time, they’re not even subject to the limited liability that the law allows for non-EUA vaccines. If it’s as safe as they say, what are they scared of?
Guess what, Dr. Gandhi, the mRNA vaccines shouldn't have been pushed on those of us who already recovered from wild type, Alpha, or Delta, too. Because we've "seen the whole virus".
A quick internet search took me to an article in bizjournals.com about Covaxin. The EUA they are seeking is for children 2-18. It says that last summer they decided “based on a recommendation from the FDA” that wouldn’t seek an EUA for adults, but would instead file for a license. The article is called “FDA places a hold on Ocugen’s plan for U.S. trials of the Covid-19 vaccine Covaxin.”
There has never been a successful injection for a corona family virus. It cannot be chased with jabs. Ever. Doesn't matter what the new name and formulation is. A pig with lipstick is still a pig.
Would have been better for Dr. Gandhi to have been done with mRNA poison death shots before they killed tens of thousands of people and disabled many more.
And how about we stop pretending that any vaccine for this virus makes any sense at all knowing that there are numerous safe and effective treatments.....
Dr. Monica Ghandi should research the Novavax (Covovax) vaccine! The vaccine can be stored in a normal fridge for 3 months unlike other vaccines which must be kept in low temperatures.
It ALSO has a protein base (F the MRNA vaccines!) - and is expected to be well-received by the unvaccinated population. Other vaccines create parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, but Novavax contains the spike protein of Covid and formulates this as a nanoparticle which can't cause disease - according to Yale Medicine. Already has WHO approval, and they are waiting for FDA approval - which they expect to get within the next week or two.
Novavax uses bits from moths. So if you take it will camphor kill you?? They claim 95% effective. But that is a relative efficacy - so they are pulling the same crap as Pfizer. What is the absolute efficacy? With Pfizer it was around 0.8%. And it uses the spike protein. Frankly, I would not touch any of them as the lies are too deep.
I’m against these Covid vaccines. But if I end up needing one to travel out of the country - or be able to be with my grandkids without a mask! - I’d “consider” a protein-based one.
Not trying so much to be existential as in nailing down the problem. Only humans need to FIX things and in the case of the whu-flu...create things. Nature does this already and very good at it.
No need at all. I’ve wondered why Alex keeps on about cases when we all know it’s not that dangerous. Then he attacks Malone and ivermectin. Then he calls anyone who thinks this is isn’t just greed and incompetence an anti vaxxer conspiracy theorist. Now he’s getting excited that Ghandi (a reasonable centrist haha not a liar as she is) is pushing a traditional vaccine.
If that vaccine is released will he suddenly think mandates and digital passes are a-ok?
Anybody who ever endorsed these hastily tested mRNA vaccines was drinking the Kool-aid to some extent. This doctor is not "rarest of breeds." Seems pretty run-of-the-mill, quite frankly. I'm glad if she's finally waking up.
I've actually been hoping you might write on this topic. I've been following the "traditional" vaccines since the Spring. The Covaxin EUA Gandhi refers to is actually only an EUA for under 18 and they seem to be sitting on it for quite a while (sub date Nov 5). Ocugen, the company trying to bring Covaxin to the US market, submitted an application for EUA for adults back in June and was rejected by the FDA. FDA told Ocugen that they had to go BLA route instead. Well Ocugen submitted an application in the Fall to begin clinical trials here and the FDA issued a clinical hold at the end of November, citing problems but not publicly specifying what they were. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but between the Ocugen/Covaxin saga and the struggles Novavax has had with the FDA for their protein subunit vaccine, it almost seems like the deck is stacked for the mRNA vaccines at the FDA. Fauci was asked about Covaxin in the US in an interview recently and said he couldn't understand the question because we already have plenty of vaccines and the "best ones available". In my observation, 90 percent of vaccine hesitancy is because of the new and not fully understood technology. If the goal is to maximize vaccination, authorizing a traditional vaccine should be a slam dunk...and yet...would love to hear your thoughts.
The one I'm curious to hear about is Valneva VLA2001. According to their website, it is:
Inactivated
Adjuvanted with Alum and CpG 1018
Highly-purified
Whole virus candidate
Vero-cell based
Using the manufacturing platform of Valneva’s commercial Japanese encephalitis (JE) vaccine
If it became impossible to live any kind of life whatsoever without being vaxed, this is the only type I would consider. It is from a company based in France,that already has
How can I get a copy of her email or news letter? Have a family member that is Extremely vulnerable and would like to be able to forward the original document to her.
It has been talk and written in nauseam, just follow the money. The FDA, CDC and the other “so called” health Governmental agencies know who’s buttering their buns, so they will continue to kowtow to big pharma so the money stream doesn’t stop.
You have to wonder about the critical thinking skills of an "expert" who thinks these mRNA jabs "are really safe and effective." They are neither. The data are clear.
Funny how fast the FDA can move when they have zero evidence. See: monoclonal ban
Hysterical that Psaki justifies denial of monoclonal antibodies because they are ineffective against omicron, but still pushes the vaccine, which is just as ineffective. They’re not even trying anymore!
Banning monoclonal is the last ditch effort to jab as many as possible before the masses awake to the terror beset them.
That and the fact that DeSantis had set up clinics to provide monoclonals to Florida. Can't have DeSantis saving lives and making every other Governor look like the incompetents that they are in advance of 2024.
Also, if monoclonals are an effective treatment, the EUA for the clot shots automatically have to disappear. You only get emergency use authorizations is there is no effective treatment for a disease.
And it's in part because they know there are millions of brainless Americans whose sole source of news (sic) is what the alphabet legacy media tell them, millions of Americans too lazy to do their own research, millions of American LIVs, millions of Americans with rudimentary (if any) critical thinking skills.
To be sure, there's a lot of crossover in those groups.
Tragically, many doctors and nurses are too lazy to do their own research, too.
THIS is killing me in particular. You're supposed to be committed to health and well-being and open analysis of facts. Ignoring mountains of concerning and contradictory data does not fit with "First, do no harm."
If they look at the data that contradicts the corporate narrative -and act on that - then they lose their licenses.
But they would stay faithful to their Oath.
They don’t have to. The believers don’t even ask for logic.
Ineffective and dangerous!
Merck and Pfizer have the two pill treatments ... I don't think the monos are manufactured by Pfizer ... It has seemed obvious for a while that the USA medical establishment is owned by Pfizer
And also by WHO, Fauci and Bill Gates.
That woman needs to be tarred and feathered with the rest of the elite losers
It's all planned , and traditional vaccines for covid is not part of the plan. Human engineering via mRNA is the plan. We are in the greatest experiment in history.
Yep, Fauci said as much a few years before covid, in discussions about how to get us to accept mRNA shots.
This is absolutely correct and for proof just research the origins of mRNA and what these people want to do with it.
I hate to be in the position of defending the FDA, but from what I've read, the monoclonal antibodies are ineffective against Omicron. Just as the jab is ineffective. Which, if you think about it, makes sense. The monoclonal antibodies are based on the original strain of Covid - as is the jab. If the jab doesn't created antibodies to stop Omicron, how could the monoclonal antibodies?
The FDA says they are simply banning an ineffective treatment. But if that is the case, why aren't they banning the ineffective jabs???
One other point, Jerry. You wrote "...but from what I've read, the monoclonal antibodies are ineffective against Omicron...". Is there clinical evidence of this, or is it just commentary from the commentariat?
Jeff Childers observed in his Coffee & Covid Substack from yesterday, "The FDA’s rationale was that these two mABs are “not effective against Omicron,” although there is no clinical evidence showing the lack of effectiveness, much less a total failure to help."
Childers also pointed out that "the FDA has green-lighted wide scale distribution of Merck’s Covid pill, Molnupiravir, which according to a December 13 article in the journal Nature, failed to show any more efficacy than a placebo in its final clinical trials."
Molnupiravir, YEAH!, even though no more efficacy than a placebo per CLINICAL TRIALS.
Monoclonals, NO!, even though no clinical evidence of their ineffectiveness.
What a guy, that FDA!
So what is the real purpose of getting everyone jabbed?? He asked rhetorically.
Payola.
No - I have no clinical evidence. This is based on a blogger named Tickerguy who has been spot on in his coverage of this from the start. https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244939&page=2
He says that with the wrong variant, the monoclonal antibodies could actually enhance the infection, rather than tamp it down. (Similar to the fear that the jabs may cause ADE.) He says the FDA is aware of this possibility, which is why they pulled them.
I have no doubt it is also about the money. It always is.
Since it appears that natural immunity works against Omicron, at least to an extent, it follows that monoclonal antibodies would also work to the same extent, or nearly so, since they are essentially the immune response of a recovered patient.
Bingo. And im no fan of any of our so called experts. All I know is they are killing people in the name of research. Just what that research is for only time will tell. But its got nothing to do with safety. ANY of it🙄
Dr. Peter McCullough said there is still one monoclonal antibody product that works for omicron. I think it was GSK's.
But that's not really defending the FDA, because, as you point out in your final sentence, they're not banning the jabs even though the exact same reason as the monoclonal ban applies to the jab. So in "defending" the FDA, you're *actually* exposing their dishonesty and hypocrisy.
Furthermore, so *what* if monoclonal is ineffective? Is it dangerous? No, they only say it's "ineffective". How many OTHER things has the FDA *not* removed from drug store shelves on the grounds that they're "ineffective"? Chondroitin? Bee pollen? Ad infinitum.
But there are still other variants of Covid around against which monoclonal antibodies would be effective
I agree. They should not have been banned. Just saying don't be surprised if they don't work and explaining why they may not work.
Interesting too ....Why hasn't the FDA and the administration pushed for more production of Sotrovimab.... apparently the monoclonal antibody treatment for Omicron? I believe AstraZeneca also had a monoclonal treatment for Omicron. People are dying and the government and doctors are withholding vital treatment. Patients should be presented with any and all available treatment options... risks/side effects/effectiveness....and let them make the decision. Doing nothing until it is too late also has a negative side effect...death. Just unbelievable that the are doing this and expect Americans to sit back and be scared and devastated and feel helpless watching their loved ones die because of utter failure in our government and health care system.
Jerrys - you explained this neatly and IMO properly. If the monoclonals don't work, then the current vax is ineffective against omicron. The end.
I had OMGicron and it was a head cold. I don't understand why anyone would need the MA's when you can use Saline Nasal Spray and a box of tissues. That being said, people are still getting Delta, maybe not in the numbers as before but it's still out there. Leave it up to Dr's discretion since they're the ones seeing the patients and evaluating symptoms.
That's how it should be all the time...re: "Leave it up to Dr's discretion since they're the ones seeing the patients and evaluating symptoms." But instead bureaucrats and politicians and so called health experts are making the blanket choice for everybody and people are needlessly dying.
From what I read, there are no clinical studies that show it is ineffective. The last studies performed showed it was effective enough to warrant an EUA. Nothing since then contradicts that finding.
I'm not disagreeing and not defending the FDA. Just reporting what I've read.
I don't think the monoclonal antibodies should have been banned, because unlike the jabs, there are no safety risks (short term or long term) with the monoclonals. At worst, it's wasted money. (Can't see how anyone in the government can use that as a rationale, considering the amount of money they flush down the toilet every day.)
The same rational should be used for IVM and HCQ.
So if Tylenol doesnt work well for one persons pain we should yank it from all people who could possibly benefit? Makes perfect sense. If you want to sell a replacement 🙄
Yes, more money for big pharma and Pfizer is the biggest of the big pharmas. Pfizer does not produce monoclonal antibody treatment. Also continued treatment of covid patients with monoclonal antibodies could create additional mRNA "vaccine" hesitancy. Covid $$ should only go to Pfizer say the corrupt communists (apologies for the redundancy) running our country/world.
Three reasons to forego the mRNA:
There’s not a single study to show efficacy against Omicron
Taking it creates antibodies for a virus that’s no longer a threat
Omicron may be the endpoint
Also evidence the jab enhances infection.
Also rolling the dice on adverse rx per VAERS.
And see the new pills. Merck's was "no better than placebo," according to their own trials, and you can be sure they used an actual inert placebo, unlike the gaming of the ivermectin study using an active compound also under investigation for Covid prevention to get the "no better than placebo" label. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03667-0
Do you have a reference on the ivermectin study? I was not aware of that particular twist.
The Merck drug just roller out by the Ukrainian Ministry of Heath .... what a waste of money. The clowns don't understand , IF they can get their hands on it, it must be useless.
The larger richer countries would take it all up if it worked
Exactly!!!!
Just like Alex said, if monoclonal antibodies are not effective for omicron , the same rule applies for the current vaccines which were made based on the alpha strain.
If everything that's not effective against the Covid strains were discontinued...EVERYTHING that governments have imposed, mandated, and done since the beginning would be discontinued.
Virtually NOTHING they've done has had any positive effect against the Chinese virus.
Senator Johnson's panel earlier in the week is worth everyone's time to watch. And looking forward to your piece Alex on Ivermectin and other known remedies being used out there.
Its almost as if you are suggesting that Early Treatment Saves Lives.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/p3USTPxPcLJ1/
[The 30 minute version of the 5 hour panel discussion]
Don't forget to include links. Search engines are heavily suppressing this and not just Google, also ddg.
Steve's post has links to senate and the rally
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/hear-from-participants-at-the-stop
All these neurotic parents rushed out in November to jab their little kids with something useless and dangerous. We are living in a clown world.
yeah and wait til the parents of 2-5yo rush in a few months to do the same...
5-11 is only about 20% jabbed so there’s hope.
I live in a very, very blue place where it feels like close to 100% are jabbed - my kids are DEFINITELY outliers - so it's good to be reminded that not everyone is completely insane.
Us too....but considering THREE of my son's closest friends (and he only has about 10 close friends, half of which are vaccinated)....ended up in the ER and currently seeing cardiologists due to Myocarditis... people (at least some) are starting to wonder what they've done. One literally dropped of heart attack symptoms at a track meet. My son came home saying "Thank you so much for questioning these vaccines and not pushing me to take one!" Needless to say, these teens (and hopefully their parents) are questioning their own judgement.
OH MY GOD!!! Are you serious???? This is horrific. I wonder if it was a hot lot? That's so upsetting. But...YAY for your son understanding your decision and appreciating it.
It's unbelievable. The first teens happened after his second shot in late summer. The second teen after his initial shot in the fall. This last one just happened in early December after booster. It's heartbreaking, and makes you really wonder about long term heart damage.
That is effing CRIMINAL. That should be prosecutable.
I feel your pain. I also live in a blue state and it seems as if all 5-11 year olds are jabbed. But I checked the state database and only 35% got it. So I think there are a lot more of us out there but too afraid to be out about it.
Ah, I am in a purple state but a v blue area. but statewide just checked, less than 25% of the littles! woohoo! More than 50% of 12-17 though :(
Most of us are not crazy. We are the majority.
It sure doesn't seem like it when you live in a blue area. And as a lifelong liberal dem (until the last election...I finally understand I have been voting against myself), surrounded by ppl who identify that way, you can imagine that except for online in places like this... I very much feel like an outlier! But I am very glad for the reminder. Bc from here it seems like the whole country has gone mad
We are in a blue area and the jabbed kids are still getting sick. Glad to have this substack as an island of sanity. As Dr Malone has said we need to protect our children from the madness. The GOP has issues but at least they don’t want to go full Canada or Australia on us.
Even the teens - all the teens in my kid's class have gotten their BOOSTERS. And they're all so happy about it. Like the teacher would say, "Any good news to share?" and some of the teens shared that they were so happy bc they got boosted. And my kid is stunned and horrified.
Your anecdote reminds me of the absurdity of all these people documenting their jabs.
Never have I seen so many photos of people getting a shot. Because they can’t get enough of posting them online or sending the photos to friends and family.
Even Dr. Malone has such a photo, which for some reason gives me pause.
Like next month...the FEAR Porn is already in the daily news about Omicron being dangerous for the 1 to 5 yo group. Fauci says vax approval soon...the culling continues.
"culling" :( Sure feels like it... I know someone who excitedly enrolled her baby and toddler in the trial. Her BABY AND HER TODDLER. She was EXCITED. It was horrible to watch.
What the hell is wrong with these parents who send their kids to their fates willingly...sickening!
Child sacrifice to the gods is not new sadly.
Comirnaty still isn't available in the US months after getting approved. Why? Because without the EUA, they are liable for adverse damage. But if they can get the shot approved for children, they get the liability protection expanded to everyone including adults.
We are pushing this dangerous shots on healthy children to protect big pharma. Everything is upside down.
Exactly! It all has to do with immunity for them not immunity for children. (I’m not even getting into the hoax that healthy kids are at risk.)
People criticize vaxxing kids as putting them at risk to protect the old. That's awful if it were true, but anyone with a functioning brain understands the shots don't prevent infection or transmission and therefore does not protect the old. Big pharma is the only beneficiary in vaxxing kids for covid.
For how much longer and what will take that evil little man out?
Ray Epps is that you?
“For whatever reason, the agency seems to be in no particular hurry to act.” My interpretation-we don’t want to lose our Pfizer kickbacks just yet. FDA is a Department of Big Pharma.
"For whatever reason, the agency seems to be in no particular hurry to act."
It should be blindingly obvious by now that Pfizer owns the FDA.
That is not to say that this new vaccine is without issue, but Fauci is already pushing the Pfizer Omicron boosters and they will almost assuredly get swift approval while their competitors languish in review purgatory.
They've been doing the same thing to the Novavax vaccine, which is a vector vaccine. Basically, they inject you with the spike proteins. The same company has made a pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine the same way and it seems to work. But that's neither here nor there. While the EU has okayed the Novavax vaccine, the US won't. This is why the conspiracy theories. You can't blame people for going out and buying tinfoil and making hats when you're pulling monoclonal antibodies because, you claim, they don't help with omicron, but you keep shoving the original vaccines, which also don't work for omicron obviously, and you won't let any other vaccines that people might be more comfortable with out in public with no more research done on them than the ones you're shoving on everyone that won't work. In short, if you don't want people to be suspicious, do not act in suspicious ways.
And covovax which is the Indian version
ALL VA$$INES are NOT SAFE OR EFFECTIVE. I want to hope that people have learned in the last 2 years the scam of the va$$ine industry and how it has devastated our childrens health in the last 30 years when injections went from 7 to 72 injections. Horror.
I appreciate her stance. But there is no need for Covaxin for this “disease” either. Especially not if it has been rushed to production with little to no data regarding its safety and effectiveness. Vaccines dont have to be MRNA technology ( can be “traditional “) to be harmful. We have TONS of evidence to point this out. How about NO VACCCINES for this digital i.D. nudging boondoggle?
Agreed. So this makes us truly anti vaxxers in the eyes of most everyone.
I don’t trust this at all.
Once the covidians redefined anti-vaxxer to include people opposed to mandatory vaccines, we should all be proud anti-vaxxers. The more I learn from people like RFK, the more I'm moving toward proud anti-vaxxer in the traditional sense. The industry has been broken for a lot longer than covid.
Yes, I have repented of my previous contempt for the anti-vaxxers, as I have gradually moved into their boat.
Totally agree!!
Agreed!
For any reasonable, thinking person there is no basis for trust. Trust is earned. And IMHO its given on a case by case basis. I need to see receipts. Whats the line? “ When people show you who they are, believe them”? Well, many people have shown me who they are in the last two years and I believe them. I believe they have given me every reason not to trust them or anything they say or do.
The safety data for Covaxin is perfect. It was not rushed to production. They weren't reinventing the wheel. The technology existed and is proven safe and effective. So, it's safe and actually works, so let's keep pumping mRNA garbage that doesn't work and is unsafe.
Safe and Effective., Safe and Effective. Safe and Effective. You will forgive me if I don’t swallow that trope without a heavy dose of Ipecac syrup.
covid centrist=they don't lie as often as their more fascist brethren.
Better late than never, I suppose, but I’m just a nobody with a Master’s degree and I’ve known since the get go that mRNA vaccines were a bad idea. Anyone who consulted the literature early on would have known that the spike protein (via natural infection) was the putative culprit in the systemic inflammatory response that killed so many COVID patients. It’s distressing how incurious — and yet, imperious — so many health professionals are on this topic.
Doctors have thoroughly bought into the system, and I don't mean in a financial way. From medical school on up through all of the journal articles and the continuing medical education conferences, it's all one narrative that they're told all of their professional lives. My husband is a doctor, and when health professionals got the jab in late December, he went along with it, even though he was concerned about the new mRNA technology. This morning he told me, "I just believed in the system." Back in December, I said, "No thanks" when he told me that they had Moderna to spare, and I was welcome though I'm not a healthcare professional. All of these people are very "smart," but they've been indoctrinated in the Big Pharma lies, and only a few of them have realized how they've been played (and some may realize it but don't want to admit it because doctors often have very big egos). Fortunately for my husband and his patients, he knows the truth now and isn't sure he can recommend the vaccine even to his older sick patients. That may mean his job, of course.
I'm another nobody w/a MS (molec bio/immunology). 100% agree. Awful idea to have cells in your body expressing spike. I know now multiple people having what appear to be autoimmune issues to various organs/tissues post jab. Liver, pancreas most common in my neck of the woods. The LNPs went anywhere and everywhere. And your body makes spike in unknown amounts, for unknown periods of time. HOW did they "get away" with this? WHY were no other viral proteins besides spike considered for mRNA vaccines? This can't be by accident.
Forgive me, but why is Pfizer and Dr. Fauci so hell bent on developing a "vaccine" for Omicron strain if, by all accounts as we currently are led to believe, there are no serious complications with this variant. Would we all not be better served to simply get Omicron and get on with it? I understand that Pfizer and Moderna have always looked at this as a revenue opportunity. With the original virus, perhaps there was a slim margin of virtue in what they were attempting (very slim). However, it would seem now to be more evident than ever that they simply are trying to find a continuous revenue stream. If an ineffective vaccine for the common cold (Omicron), than why not one for dandruff, acne, obesity, diabetes, ibs, depression, anxiety....and so on. The point is, if a vaccine only ameliorates and doesn't prevent, than what's to stop them from promulgating said lunacy?
John...because he and they (big pharma who Fauci is beholden too)) can! Why wouldn't they? I mean there is absolute zero accountability! We all know the definition of insanity right?
Don’t worry, by the time it comes out it will be too late and only the brainwashed will get it.
Considering previous (attempted) coronavirus vaccines failed badly, I don't see any reason to think these will work any better. And I'd be damned suspicious of any trial data without absolute full disclosure and independent confirmation. On second thought, I'd just assume it was false information.
I totally disagree with taking a vaccine, mRNA or not, that has not been thoroughly and properly tested for safety and efficacy. The IFR and survival rate for this virus DO NOT warrant the use of untested vaccines of any stripe!!
Also, granting EUA eliminates liability to the manufacturer, which on its face, makes absolutely no sense to me.
Vaccines are protected. Regardless I agree on the testing. None of these Jabs should have been released without years of testing.
The deliberate tactic from the beginning was to call these shots "vaccines", all the way back to Trump. That planted the seed in 90% of minds that these were like traditional vaccines. If they had been called "gene therapies" or "gene drugs" people would have run a mile before taking them. And if Dr Malone had spoken up at that point in time, it might have made a difference, but he was silent. And who silenced Prof Robert Borrody, the Australian scientist who first proposed using Ivermectin back in April 2020?
Boosters, schmoosters...we don't need any vaccines for a virus with a 99% survival. Not an mRNA, not Covaxin. There are always risks with vaccines. Please stop with the promotion of "good" vaccines for Covid. It's just more money for Pharma. Also, I hate the term "Covid centrist," as it implies that someone like me, who thinks this whole false pandemic and the rush to a forced, dangerous vaccine, is an extremist. I am not an extremist. I am smart, educated and informed on this topic.
Thank you! My thoughts exactly. Alex calling us “anti vaxxers” and conspiracy theorists a couple of posts ago wasn’t cool.
It was a little disturbing.
Here, here! Well said!
I don't disagree, but I would not say "stop promoting' anything - the fact is that Substack is a free speech platform and if Alex ultimately determines that Covavax/Novavax are decent vaccines, I want him to post that. Of course, others are free to disagree. I am anxious in learning more about the non-mRNA vaxxes. If at the VERY LEAST, the folks who feel like they need to get one or are forced to - and I know many who fall into this camp - they would provide a safer alternative. That said, I do agree it's all rushed and that the government has given people massive distrust due to mandates/rushing things/lectures/inability to admit they failed.
Forced to get a vaccine is wrong on every level. Doesn't matter if it's safer than what we've got now. I can't believe it's come to this.
I am adamantly against all mandates and passports.
Right, of course all information is welcome. I took issue with the assumption that a Covaxin vaccine would inherently be "better." It would need rigorous research and trials to be shown safe and effective...and then maybe. Or maybe not. Lots of non-mRNA vaccines have proven dangerous to people. The mandating of any vaccine is an entirely different discussion and I am personally close to people forced into a choice, too. But I appreciate your nuance.
I appreciate your reply - I agree with you overall.
The WHO currently authorizes 10 covid vaccines and lists 30+ in use in different countries around the world. So why are US citizens stuck with these three garbage products? Cuba has some vaccines that don't expose you to the full spike protein, just the receptor binding domain. But that's Cuba.
Similar in Canada: they only accept the mRNA vaccines + AstraZeneca and JJ. "Coincidentally" all the vaccines Canada purchased for themselves.
Dr. Gandhi is likely to start getting attacked by the leftists now
And now she asks you to take the post down. She is running scared...
I am 64, haven’t had Covid or any variant as far as I know. I didn’t trust the vaccine from the beginning because of how hard they were pushing it on everyone, not just risk groups. You’d have thought people were dropping on the streets, but I saw and heard none of that in my circles. Sure, several got sick, but none were hospitalized. They set up dozens of huge trailers for temporary hospital beds that went unused. The mask/no mask thing didn’t help. For months we’ve been seeing evidence that the vaccines don’t work very well. Masks have never worked. I’ll keep reading and listening, but I don’t need any more convincing. I’m not gonna get it.
Before Covid, I thought vaccines were one the greatest medical interventions. Shortly before Covid hit, I got two different vaccines. One to protect me and one to protect my next door neighbor's baby. My idea and my choice, on both counts.
Now, my earlier assumptions would need to be verified with actual data. I have learned about OAS and the questionable efficacy of the flu vaccine in the needy populations. How peer reviewers don't have access to any of the raw data for any drug that they review (that data is only available if there is a lawsuit). That in the Pfizer mRNA trial, more people died in the vaccine arm than in the placebo arm.
If I have had serious questions about the Covid vaccines (I made a list of my concerns and it gets longer by the day), I can't understand why doctors haven't also had a healthy skepticism. Knowing what I know as a lay person, I can't understand why any doctor would ever recommend the mRNA vaccines to anyone under 60. So I still question Dr. Gandhi's discernment.
I'm with you. I used to be contemptuous of anti-vaxxers.
Along with all the rest I've recently learned, I read statistics that babies who receive the flu vax (recommended by the CDC and approved for such by the FDA) are five times as likely to be hospitalized for RSV. WTH?!?
This is especially hard hitting for me because three of my little nieces and nephews were born in early winter, received a flu vax right off the bat and were hospitalized for RSV. The most recent one just got out of the hospital and it's nothing short of a miracle that he survived.
I never got around to researching why anti-vaxxers felt the way they did, so I was reserving judgment. Plus, either way, I favor bodily autonomy and parents' rights to decide what is best for their children.
That is nuts about the flu vax for children. Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear about your nieces and nephews. So glad they recovered.
Geez, we are learning so much about the FDA, CDC, NIH, HHS, so-called scientific journals, medical establishment, etc. And most of it, not good. The one upside is that I am invested more than ever in living a healthy life, so I need the least amount of medical care and medications.
Same here. I’m watching labels on my food more carefully, trying to exercise more and eat less. Especially less processed food and fewer chemicals.
Monica ghandi was among the first to push masking and STILL supports masking children. She's no centrist
Exactly. She also actively encourages vaxxing kids as young as 5 with mRNA.Maybe she's been paid to promote this other vaccine but I expect she will happily go back to beating on the mRNA drum as soon as Pfizer's new Omicron vaccine comes out.
You’ve got this right Alex. I’ve had numerous discussions with Gandhi about various pandemic issues and she knows full well the data showing strangely high correlations between vaccination and case rates.
aramis720 any idea how to get a link to the newsletter Alex references? I know of someone who needs to get a booster and I'm looking for backup to steer them away from the mRNA shots asap
Been waiting for more on whole virus vaccines. Thanks Alex!
Alex you rocked on “Tucker” last night!
Alex was on both Tucker and the Clay and Buck show same day. BOOM! :) Don't let it go to your head Alex :)
Thank you Alex for keeping us on top of the unfolding awakening.
Also, for anyone interested there is a fund set up on GiveSendGo for DJ Ferguson. He is the 31 year old husband and father of 2 (and one on the way) being denied a heart transplant by Brigham and Women's Hospital because he will not get the mRNA jab. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2GFG
"Dr. Gandhi is too smart to come out and say openly the mRNA vaccines are useless..."
That's not being smart, that's being dishonest. Having the "elite media bluechecks" should not be the goal of any honest scientist with a conscience at this point.
Careful, Berenson. You're ripping your own mask off with such statements.
Good point. Maybe “savvy” rather than smart.
Perhaps he meant politically savvy. It is the bluechecks waking up that is going to save us if there is a saving to be had.
Many experts have been openly saying that "mRNA vaccines are useless (if not dangerous) at this point", for 2 years now. Dr. Gandhi, like Alex, are a little late to the game. But at least they're coming around to that reality now.
There were some who shouting from the rooftop that to mass "vaccinate" in the middle of a pandemic was dangerous and useless. Unfortunately, they were censored, mocked and marginalized.
I'm glad I listened to them and never offered myself to become part of the grand experiment.
For sure on that point. The redundancy is pretty intense now overall. Just this morning had Fox on in background and Brett Baier was doing a segment about Fauci early emails regarding the Wuhan lab leak and it was simply rehashed same information we have known for how long now? Brett came off like it was breaking news or something. Just goes round and round and lots of blah blah blah without ONE person in jail for these crimes against humanity two years in
Even the left wing media was admitting the lab leak last summer. Unfortunately, they only admitted it on Page C8 at the bottom, so idiots like my sister are still fully convinced that this all started with a poor, unfortunate bat.
I have a similar sister although even she is having a wake up WTF feeling with what she has seen the puppet do in less than a year. My feeling is there are many many like her who feel betrayed and duped on various levels
I hope you're right. But I sure have lost all respect for the intelligence of my sister as time as passed.
If she is showing no signs at this point of becoming aware probably won't, but its all relative. Perhaps some simply need to be HIT hard over the head with a reality moment of awakening!
Here's Fauci lying about Covaxin/Ocugen when asked why the FDA hasn't approved it. Fauci lied and said that OCGN hasn't applied. They did...on November 5th.
Fauci: What do you mean alternative? It’s not an alternative. It’s another vaccine. We don’t need another vaccine; we have plenty of vaccines, they have not applied to get approved. When you try to get approved, the FDA looks at the data, and if the data are in order and give you a good scientific rationale to approve it, the FDA will approve it. There are no interventions that are not being approved for reasons other than they’ve either not been submitted for approval or the data are not strong enough to warrant approval.
Fauci has lied for 40 years...nothing new here
yet he is STILL the highest paid Government employee 40 years in. His salary paid in full by you and I and his soon to be cushy pension (AGAIN PAID BY US) when he chooses to fade away never held to real account. The # 1 crisis in this world is ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY!
To me it sounds like you are just better of getting Omicron.
Of course my preferred option is just not get any of it. Vax or covid. It's worked so far.
The tough warning on Tucker last night will make a difference….on the side for good anyway.
I am actually surprised, which doesn't seem to happen much today, that this is the first time I have heard about Covaxin. An actual possible vaccine. It sounds like someone didn't line enough pockets to get this passed for emergency use. Or maybe they need to offer stock options to people heading the FDA, CDC, and Fauci?
Of the 1.6 billion vaccine doses given in India so far, 226 million are Covaxin. Usage data: https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/
Dr. Gandhi now joins the unoffical cohort of Conspiracy Theorists and domestic terrorists because, the science, or something. Now anything she writes, says, whispers or even thinks will be promptly buried by the gutter press and she will be sent to the back of the classroom to keep the likes of Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch and Joe Rogan company. Kudos to her!!!
File this under quotes by fools that will look stupid in the fullness of time. MSNBC - Morning Joe today (1:07 mark): “We just can’t keep shutting down our country because of these people who would rather take Ivermectin than get a vaccine that is SAFER THAN ASPIRIN.”
It's especially funny because far more people die from Tylenol overdoses than taking Ivermectin, even in large doses.
I've seen men get injected with a dose intended for a full grown bull when the bull bucked in the chute at the wrong time. It's quite uncomfortable because ivermec injections burn, but no ill effects whatsoever. Just rub it a minute and do the next bull.
For decades the pharma industry could not develop a covid vaccine. Kept running into problems. Until the liability waiver is taken away, it seems nuts to consider any of their new vaccines unless you are at extreme risk and don't mind the risk of the new shots.
After all this time, they’re not even subject to the limited liability that the law allows for non-EUA vaccines. If it’s as safe as they say, what are they scared of?
So Dr Ghandi is on an NIAID advisory council. She has a grant from NIH as well. Who runs NIAID again? America's Doctor - Anthony Fauci.
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/advisory-council-biographies
Guess what, Dr. Gandhi, the mRNA vaccines shouldn't have been pushed on those of us who already recovered from wild type, Alpha, or Delta, too. Because we've "seen the whole virus".
Yea! Now I can get a vaccine (that I don’t need because this is a fucking cold) and get my very own digital passport to hell.
A quick internet search took me to an article in bizjournals.com about Covaxin. The EUA they are seeking is for children 2-18. It says that last summer they decided “based on a recommendation from the FDA” that wouldn’t seek an EUA for adults, but would instead file for a license. The article is called “FDA places a hold on Ocugen’s plan for U.S. trials of the Covid-19 vaccine Covaxin.”
There has never been a successful injection for a corona family virus. It cannot be chased with jabs. Ever. Doesn't matter what the new name and formulation is. A pig with lipstick is still a pig.
exactly...not ONE even close
Would have been better for Dr. Gandhi to have been done with mRNA poison death shots before they killed tens of thousands of people and disabled many more.
And how about we stop pretending that any vaccine for this virus makes any sense at all knowing that there are numerous safe and effective treatments.....
Dr. Monica Ghandi should research the Novavax (Covovax) vaccine! The vaccine can be stored in a normal fridge for 3 months unlike other vaccines which must be kept in low temperatures.
It ALSO has a protein base (F the MRNA vaccines!) - and is expected to be well-received by the unvaccinated population. Other vaccines create parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, but Novavax contains the spike protein of Covid and formulates this as a nanoparticle which can't cause disease - according to Yale Medicine. Already has WHO approval, and they are waiting for FDA approval - which they expect to get within the next week or two.
If it only creates antibodies to the spike, you still don't have antibodies to the entire virus. The spike mutates easiest.
Novavax uses bits from moths. So if you take it will camphor kill you?? They claim 95% effective. But that is a relative efficacy - so they are pulling the same crap as Pfizer. What is the absolute efficacy? With Pfizer it was around 0.8%. And it uses the spike protein. Frankly, I would not touch any of them as the lies are too deep.
None of these Jabs have been through proper testing. If they did they wouldn't be released. What is going on here?
Spike based. Also real vaccines go through years of testing.
I’m against these Covid vaccines. But if I end up needing one to travel out of the country - or be able to be with my grandkids without a mask! - I’d “consider” a protein-based one.
Without proper testing? Vaccine are normally tested for years. This place doesn't make any sense.
Yes. The world has definitely gone mad.
Can someone, Alex, explain the need for a "vaccine" at all?
The EGO of man and his incessant need to control
My point was more related to the practical matter of treatment, not to existential questions.
Not trying so much to be existential as in nailing down the problem. Only humans need to FIX things and in the case of the whu-flu...create things. Nature does this already and very good at it.
Respectfully, I'm suggesting the problem isn't hubris. It's evil and it's malevolent.
Truly E & M!
No need at all. I’ve wondered why Alex keeps on about cases when we all know it’s not that dangerous. Then he attacks Malone and ivermectin. Then he calls anyone who thinks this is isn’t just greed and incompetence an anti vaxxer conspiracy theorist. Now he’s getting excited that Ghandi (a reasonable centrist haha not a liar as she is) is pushing a traditional vaccine.
If that vaccine is released will he suddenly think mandates and digital passes are a-ok?
Hm. Better consult my tin foil hat!
Anybody who ever endorsed these hastily tested mRNA vaccines was drinking the Kool-aid to some extent. This doctor is not "rarest of breeds." Seems pretty run-of-the-mill, quite frankly. I'm glad if she's finally waking up.
Sent to the resistance —Pfizer deaf politicians and attorneys generals. Maybe the truckers can get this crap pulled.
Thanks for your work, Alex. I feel like I have a spy planted in the Syndicate, reporting back to me every day or two.
Anyway to get a full copy of that email newsletter?
I've actually been hoping you might write on this topic. I've been following the "traditional" vaccines since the Spring. The Covaxin EUA Gandhi refers to is actually only an EUA for under 18 and they seem to be sitting on it for quite a while (sub date Nov 5). Ocugen, the company trying to bring Covaxin to the US market, submitted an application for EUA for adults back in June and was rejected by the FDA. FDA told Ocugen that they had to go BLA route instead. Well Ocugen submitted an application in the Fall to begin clinical trials here and the FDA issued a clinical hold at the end of November, citing problems but not publicly specifying what they were. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but between the Ocugen/Covaxin saga and the struggles Novavax has had with the FDA for their protein subunit vaccine, it almost seems like the deck is stacked for the mRNA vaccines at the FDA. Fauci was asked about Covaxin in the US in an interview recently and said he couldn't understand the question because we already have plenty of vaccines and the "best ones available". In my observation, 90 percent of vaccine hesitancy is because of the new and not fully understood technology. If the goal is to maximize vaccination, authorizing a traditional vaccine should be a slam dunk...and yet...would love to hear your thoughts.
The one I'm curious to hear about is Valneva VLA2001. According to their website, it is:
Inactivated
Adjuvanted with Alum and CpG 1018
Highly-purified
Whole virus candidate
Vero-cell based
Using the manufacturing platform of Valneva’s commercial Japanese encephalitis (JE) vaccine
If it became impossible to live any kind of life whatsoever without being vaxed, this is the only type I would consider. It is from a company based in France,that already has
Meant to end with "has several other vaccines in use for other infections".
How can I get a copy of her email or news letter? Have a family member that is Extremely vulnerable and would like to be able to forward the original document to her.
Where is the Novavax EUA? Been waiting for that one too.
Waiting for the option at least.
It has been talk and written in nauseam, just follow the money. The FDA, CDC and the other “so called” health Governmental agencies know who’s buttering their buns, so they will continue to kowtow to big pharma so the money stream doesn’t stop.
You have to wonder about the critical thinking skills of an "expert" who thinks these mRNA jabs "are really safe and effective." They are neither. The data are clear.
She is spineless.
Scott Gottlieb has had no influence on the FDA slow walking Covaxin, has he?