This popped up on Reddit shortly after the police announced his name as a “person of interest” in the Highland Park parade mass shooting yesterday. It isn’t the only reference to Crimo’s cannabis use.
Much of the online evidence about Crimo that has come out since last night - the pamphlet made up entirely of numbers and the bizarre Twitter feed - screams untreated or uncontrolled psychosis. Expect his family to make halting statements about mental illness soon.
More like SSRI induced. You speak like a person who’s never experienced what marijuana effects actually are like in any capacity. No wonder Joe Rogan doesn’t want to kick it with you .
I have a friend who was addicted to Adderall for six years. Finally realized what she was doing and wanted to stop. And even though it's been a year, she still deals with the chemical ways it's trained her brain and her therapist agrees she still feeling the effects of it.
You don't think chemicals that alter you in some way, like cannabis don't have a lasting effect? That they can't change you, your mood and actions?
I don't need to know the effects of Adderall myself tobelieve my friend when she says she gets intrusive thoughts and can't sleep. I also don't need to know the personal effects of cannabis to not believe the studies and real life impacts.
There's currently this seemingly blind obsession with natural vs. Synthetic products. Synthetic bad, natural good. If a chemical is toxic, does it matter whether it's natural or not? Poison ivy, poison sumac, belladonna, cannabis. Essential oils are toxic to babies under one when not diluted properly..
Just imagine if man took sumac or ivy into the lab and concentrated them 100X and applied to humans or animals. Nature protects itself with it's defense only and the plants you mentioned are not used by man in any way. Nature always trumps the EGO of man.
Haha! That's what I always tell people. Rattle Snake poison is 100% all natural too!
Just depends on what it is. But you're right. People see all natural and think it's good. Just like some people are stuck on gluten free. I see gluten free on products that can't contain gluten anyway -- like salt!
But yes, people who smoke week ALL THE TIME tend to become zoned out a lot of the time, even when they're not smoking. I've seen that in people I knew in high school. The stoner kids get that nickname more from the way they are when they're not smoking!
The advantage with natural things is that humans have more experience with them and therefore have had the opportunity to learn their risks and benefits.
I can verify this. My doctor took me off Adderall after 5 years. I was so upset & it took me forever to realize how bad it was. I wanted to find another doctor, but never did I'm glad. I'm still dealing with the effects, there's way too much to list here, but it definitely rewired my brain. I was on it from 34 to 40 years old, so 5.5 years or so, but i have a baseline to compare, before i got on it. Not everyone has that. Just because something doesn't affect everyone the same way, doesn't mean it can't affect some people that way (like weed).
I'm not convinced that drugs like Adderall and all the psychomeds actually work. If the approval process for adderral is anything like the approval process I saw for the covid-19 vaxx, I don't want anything to do with it.
My friend, who was diagnosed with ADHD, isn't convinced that ADHD is actually real. There's something going on, but the diagnosis and treatment options for whatever is going on is way off base.
I think I have ADHD; although, I was never tested. I cannot read a book for more than a couple of pages without my mind wandering. I could not, and still cannot, sit in a classroom and do anything but doze off. I struggle with holding a desk job. But, I can frame a house, I can do plumbing, I can build cabinets, I can do photography, I can do electrical work and although I've never tried it, I bet I'd make a good welder. My point is, there's no pill that's going to fix my attention deficit problems but I can find things that don't require that I sit and read 200 pages at one time or stare at a computer all day. I think the kids that can't sit still should be put in woodshop or air conditioner repair or plumbing co-ops and allowed to do things that their mind was designed for.
THAT is how it's been for far longer than "most" people have known. The one GREAT silver-lining of the whu-flu era is far far more people have become aware of just how deep the corruption is and has been for decades with the government-pharma-medical-media cartel. Nothing new here just "in your face" blatantly obvious now since what was done during the plandemic and is still occurring
Remember when the doctors believed Purdue Pharma's claims that oxycontin is not addictive? Imagine that, a trained MD believing that highly pure heroin in a pill wouldn't be addictive. Yes, there is a government-pharma-medical-media cartel -- and add Big Tech to that too because YT, FB, Twitter, and Yahoo all practice censoring anything that suggests that the covid vaxx is potentially harmful.
It's likely it's a multi-factor problem, meaning both can be responsible for the problem either individually or in combination. The social pressures only serve to amplify the reaction or
There is definitely an issue with Cannabis and psychosis. The problem with the Cannabis industry is the same with Big Pharma, there are people with big dollar signs in there eyes that want to ignore the risks.
Regarding the SSRI drugs that are handed out like candy, I encourage anyone to look at the average efficacy of these drugs. It's remarkably low. How exactly do they measure efficacy anyway? If you've ever seen a schizophrenic person it's unlikely they are communicating effectively. Depending on the individual, they can also cause a complete change in personality. Big Pharma is constantly pushing new drug treatments and ignoring lifestyle changes. It's the rare Psych doc that actually even talks to the patient.
We spend A LOT of money on Healthcare, it's just spent in the wrong places. I suspect if we added up all of the money spent on "72 hours treatments" , the ever expanding lists of drugs being prescribed to the mentally ill and the various non-profits and health agencies that barely make a dent in the problem, there would be a lot of money to spend on long term treatment options. The mental health care industry is like a train filled with gold that by the time it reaches it's destination, (the patient) is completely empty. There are a lot of people making money but the patient gains are pretty minimal.
Cannabis has become Pharma like with the tinkering of man to concentrate highly which is never wise. The cannabis use by the indigenous people for 1000's of years in the natural world is not modern day cannabis use for damn sure.
Wrong, the production of hashish which is a concentrated form of cannabis has been happening for thousands of years. Selective breeding over that period was done to increase the yield and potency. Yes that has increased since the advent of indoor gardening technology, but the genetic basis for all the modern strains comes from the coveted landraces obtained from the descendants of ancient cultivators.
Would be interested in seeing that data as in just how it originally was and where it's come and what tech they used to concentrate pre modern age. Sounds like the ancient ways were a natural process not using chemicals etc
Excellent comment I worked with an agency in DC in the 80s who had the problem of psychotic homeless patients all but licked. They even ow Ed their own buildings for housing. It was cheaper than renting. The two social workers and two psychiatrists who conceived of it and worked it did so in lieu of lucrative private practices. When I left the area they were beginning to set up a program for drug and alcohol used. Did anyone
I've heard of a similar program first modeled in Wisconsin. Unfortunately what is in place is a low budget "for profit" alternative.
I'm in Maryland. There is a pipeline from the Hospitals to rooming houses in my area. The houses are run by sketchy landlords and I suspect that the hospital social workers are linking indigent patients with them. I know one area of Harford County where there are at least 5 of these properties all run by the same guy. One of them had something like 6 or 7 people living there before one of the boarders lit the place on fire resulting in a couple of fatalities. It wasn't the first fire at one of his properties. This guy leases the property from the owner and then illegally subdivides them. I'm almost 100% sure the same thing happens in Dundalk area of Baltimore County.
My question is is the rate of bi-polar\schizophrenia increasing? Any known studies?
You should read Tracey Higgins book, The girl on the Bridge. She cured herself (with the help of a caring psychiatrist who didn’t want to drug her) of schizophrenia without any drugs. Her story is horrific but at least has a happy ending in that she is no longer psychotic & living a healthy life
Pharma companies are so complicit yet never held to "real" as in truly felt accountability. Just look what they have done with humanity in totality with drugs and injections the past 70 years and especially the last 15.
I love the web site https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/. Wow it is eye-opening. I check here any time my doc suggests an SSRI or SNRI (which they seem to do readily once you hit a certain age).
CB1 to CB2 receptor ratio varies greatly with each individual. Savage the Redd are you so bias that you deny the fact that THC’s effect can vary greatly between individuals with psychosis being an adverse effect of THC? Furthermore the FDA is way undermanned to implement any standardization in the cannabis industry.
Undermanned? It's not just a labor issue. The revolving door from the regulating agencies to Big Pharma is just to big to ignore. NIAID (Fauci) functions as a drug venture capital startup. They fund the University research, which is used to create the drugs. The drugs are patented and then licensed by Big Pharma. The reason no one asks questions about risk are that no one wants to know the answer to that question.
The FDA and CDC are in bed with Big Pharma. At a minimum they receive 30% of their revenue from the sale of drugs and vaccines. They don't ask questions about risk or challenge Big Pharma, because they don't want to know the answer. They have effectively turned themselves into procurement agencies. The kind of incestuous relationship that the FDA and CDC have, would land a procurement official in prison for a very long time.
P.S. Years ago, I was a salesman for a company that ended up having major SEC violations The people in charge knowingly approved some very stupid decisions. Unfortunately, they were too busy counting commission checks and future stock options to ask the "wrong" questions that would have brought them to their senses. I am getting the same vibes from the CDC and FDA.
I have been around and partook in marijuana usage for the better part of 25 years. I’ve seen and had first hand experience in the potency change. It HAS changed dramatically but the effects remain the same. Paranoia, munchies, dry eyes and mouth. When it wears off so do the effects. I have never in all of my years and likely 10-1000’s of interactions ever seen anyone psychotic from marijuana alone. Let alone it be the culprit in combination with anything else. I have seen 100’s of drunken psychotic people on pharmies or alcohol or the combo do absolutely insanely stupid, dangerous and Ill-advised things. I speak from first hand experience whereas I see a bunch of circle jerking happening on here. I can find studies that support the vaccines I’m sure too. Does that mean I believe them. No. Who funded them? Who benefits are always the first question that can neutralize a discussion. Alex has these threads so he can sell his books on the subjects. It’s probably one of the reasons why he’s so mad about Twitter. Even though Twitter isn’t a real place.
You make the mistake of assuming everyone reacts to marijuana the way you do. That's like assuming everyone reacts to alcohol like you do--it just doesn't work that way. When you make broad assertions about these substances, about how they are not harmful, you undermine the people who struggle with them the most. Please think about how those most vulnerable might use your words to justify rebounding with a drug they can't navigate like you claim you have.
Good for you, sport. Here's a newsflash for you: for some people, marijuana use opens dangerous doors in their brains. It ain't pretty. Just because you haven't seen it means little. Like you, I speak from first-hand experience. Get over yourself.
Do you have scientific fact or just anecdotal evidence in support of your position? What I do know is that government likes it when people are drugged and playing video games/using social media/watching Netflix. It keeps most of them from understanding what is wrong with modern society.
Listen to Dr Mc Fillin’s Radically Genuine podcast. There is plenty of evidence regarding prescription drugs. I haven’t heard him address weed yet though. I believe Abigail Shirer is working on a book about the over prescribing of psychotropic drugs as well
Cannabis affects everyone differently and excessive use of ANY drug (sugar and alcohol included) is likely to have a detrimental effect in the long and sometimes short term.
Personally I know I cant use cannabis, it really screws me up. LSD microdoses however are wonderful (not regularly though).
I'm with you. I don't doubt Marijuana is more damaging today with the higher THC levels, but it doesn't make sense to ignore the SSRI's? You only have to research SSRI's for a few hours to know you will never take one (at least that's what happened to me). The more I hear & read about the "dangerous & horrible effects of Marijuana", the more & more it feels like a Big Pharma Campaign to draw attention away from it's profitable SSRI's & put the attention on something that they get zero money from.
Both are true. Psychosis inducing and thus fundamentally the same for way too many. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind. Ask this question: in an alcohol DUI stop, they breathalyze. What do they do with MJ?
True, we have both where I live, lol ! But.... though dangerous of course, neither of them are able to cause a chemical change in the neurological system...other than perhaps a massive and immediate natural adrenaline dump into the blood stream when either if spotted !
I’m wondering whether guys like you will be like the residents of the town of Dachau who, as the Allies approached, tried to virtue signal by organizing a hasty raid. Or will you remain a true believer until the end? The evidence is there for the world to see, and the smell of death is unmistakable.
Yes. Because as everyone knows, psychoactive drugs affect everyone in exactly the same way. No one has ever had a psychotic response to THC. Or if they did, they did it wrong and it's their fault for being stupid. I am 100% certain of this as I have smoked tons of weed in my lifetime and I know it's safe for everyone to use, as long as they're not stupid about it cuz it can really fuck with your brain if you are.
Why is the Elite media ignoring the high rates of strokes and Heart attacks since the Face Mask and mRNA shots Justin Bieber and his wife! How Many Royalties was the Media Paid from these Pharmaceutical companies in the Past 2 years?
It's the same mindset that effects the CDC and FDA. The concept is too frightening to think about it so they stick their head in the sand. The only difference is, there's no financial gain for the average person. The blue pill is so much easier to swallow for a large segment of the American populous.
I just want to know who the "elite media" are, who made them "elite" and what makes them "elite" ? ? I understand those factors as they apply to politicians... we all know (regardless of which party we belong to !) that "elite" politicians eat expensive ice cream (that seems to be their drug!), they eat in expensive restaurants and go to hair salons, gyms, and festive gatherings that are off limits to others when they declare "lock-downs" for the masses. Are "elite" media the same ? Do they have those types of privileges not allowed to the "underclass/deplorables" ? ?
Elite media are the sellouts and the suck ups to power. The deal is yes, they get those same privileges in exchange for helping power maintain the "official narrative."
Not surprised, the same types have existed for eons ! Think back to Indochina and the French "media", then on to Japan, Korea, Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia... it all starts to sound the same doesn't it !? There seem to always be the "suck-up"... they are anxious to "suck-up" all the exceptional privileges of the elite ruling class... you'd THINK the USA would be smart enough to avoid that trap...LOL !
Difficult to believe such a high percentage of the population misses the part: "side effects include depression, thoughts of suicide....call your doctor immediately if ....". This is on TV at least 30-50 times a day, not advertising psychotropic drugs, no, not at all, if people LISTEN to the "disclaimers" given after the whole range of Rx medications that are a steady parade all day long on television: indigestion, sinus, sleep problems, skin breakouts, diabetes, arthritis, etc., does ANYONE listen to the nightmare list of possible "side effects" ??? Much worse than the condition they are to treat, yet, they all urge people to call their doctor NOW and ASK for ______.
I actually think it's the combination of weed and SSRI's that's fueling these younger shooters. Although I watched my brother go schizophrenic from just weed alone in the 1990's.
Some people shouldn’t be on weed, but prohibition is worse, and worse than that are SSRI’s. I wonder how many of the weed smokers with psychosis issues were also on SSRI’s?
Alex, are you cannabis naive? Have you never smoked?
You were a science report right? You must recognize that you can't draw valid conclusions from anecdotal evidence. Almost all alienated young people smoke pot. The causality is alienated -> pot, not pot -> alienated. You might as well conclude that rock music causes violence, or video games or not going to church.
Character and drugs are causing violence. If you're a psycho a potent drug can easily turn you into a killer (and that's probably the case with many - the 'right' people give them the 'right' push and we have a front page story that can be used to confiscate guns from the rest of us)
When you say character I would say predisposition. Certainly various stressors can push vulnerable people over the top. But I'd say that a stressor like loneliness or a breakup is much more powerful than the weed of wisdom.
And, we seem to be on a path of spiritual bankruptcy also ! Regardless of a person's religious persuasion, or lack of it, human beings need a spiritual base, a grounding. We have far too many people at present with no spiritual foundation to aid them in developing a moral base or develop personal responsibility.... that even though you desperately want that bike, or coat, or shoes, or phone.... it belongs to someone ELSE, therefore, you can not take it. Foreign concept to far to many.....
Pot can made people very paranoid. Everyone knows this. The stereotype is some slack jawed pot head too limp to do more than shuffle around. The trouble is that it affects some people with paranoia and sometimes those people act on it.
They may be rare. But the damage they do is disproportionate.
Paranoia is a short term phenomenon for people just starting to smoke. Or it reflects social anxiety that people know you are high. It is not a generalized psychotic paranoia. People are paranoid that they will get in trouble, not that the FBI put radios in their teeth. Pot paranoia doesn't involve a paranoid worldview or delusions.
It’s not anecdotal. Read his paper on Imprimis for a shortened version.
He regularly offers highly correlated data, not anecdotal incidents. When you have multiple, independent studies with high r values, then and only then can you say it is causative (Eg, surgeon general on smoking CAUSES cancer). I don’t think he has made that claim anywhere. But saying his evidence is anecdotal is flat dishonest.
I was referring to this recent shooting incident that Alex wants to make hay with. (A little ghoulish, that.) I'm sure there are studies. If I cared, I'd look up studies that say cannabis is benign. But you guys commenting without ever trying it much, you are like blind men describing an elephant by touch. I have the evidence I need from my experience. My hallucinations say pot is good for me!! ;-) Basta!!
Fun fact: arsenic and strychinine were used as stimulants, mostly in the 1700s and 1800s. In small doses. Jack the Ripper was rumored to be a strychnine addict!! As for suicide I do think that it is hard for non suicidal people to understand the mindset, which is why we are so freaked by it.
The difference between weed smoke and cigarette smoke is apples and oranges. People do not get cancer from weed, period. Oh by the way, is that the same Surgeon General that wants us all vaxed?
This nonsense has been spewing for years and is used by anti-weed people. When in fact the substance has been used for generations with little problems. As a matter of fact of all the substances humans abuse (and yes weed can be abused) it is the safest of them all. Now compare that to booze.
Let's not lose the fact that big pharma hates weed. It has so many healing properties and this good doc refuses to acknowledge. Let's remember what they are doing with the death shots, pharma is the most evil organization around, they are the real drug pushers of the world. And, they are using this doc and his bias to further their propaganda war on weed. But hey, he has money coming in on book sales, what a great time to push his book every time there is a shooting. And, he does it every time.
One makes a product, the other uses peoples bias, kind of like CNN. I'm no weed industry lover. But you can grow your own at little cost, That is what we all did and has been done for generations. Damn man, it's just a god given plant! Even booze needs processed. Weed is just dried flower.
We'll, weed stocks aren't doing too great. And most weed users hate big tobacco. So who knows what happens. I'll tell you this, the black market is alive and well. States got really greedy with tax rates. Most of my career is an investment banker. As these things go they are real hot to start then tapper off. I think that is where the weed market is now. Just leveling out until national legalization, if that happens. I still grow my own and use it for pain and sleep. There is no better sleep medication.
Bad Pharma: How Drug Companies Mislead Doctors and Harm Patients
Ben Goldacre-Author
-We like to imagine that medicine is based on evidence and the results of fair testing and clinical trials. In reality, those tests and trials are often profoundly flawed. We like to imagine that doctors who write prescriptions for everything from antidepressants to cancer drugs to heart medication are familiar with the research literature about these drugs, when in reality much of the research is hidden from them by drug companies. We like to imagine that doctors are impartially educated, when in reality much of their education is funded by the pharmaceutical industry. We like to imagine that regulators have some code of ethics and let only effective drugs onto the market, when in reality they approve useless drugs, with data on side effects casually withheld from doctors and patients
Chuck. Would you like me to give you the science links they use to propagate covid death shots? There are thousands telling us they are safe and effective.
Science has been polluted by money and politics. From global warming to weed. All in an effort to manipulate a reality that is far from reality.
There is no science publication that is free from the politics du jour.
Pharma has been warring against weed for decades. The massive list of health benefits ruins the false reality that legal drugs are helpful.
Can massive amount of THC be harmful, sure. just like too much pizza. Or over dosing on opioids.
But this barrage of fake science on a plant that does not need processed, it is just a dried flower, does not cause the issues they are trying to peddle. These distractions showed up right when weed was being legalized. They have big pharmas name written all over them.
It is just pathetic, weed is used to help cancer treatments, but the fear mongers of course us the C word to scare the shit out of folks. The fact is this, weed has been heavily used for decades, centuries really, with little harmful effects and a massive amount of positive outcomes. There is no medical study that can compete with the long history of weed use and the safety as attested by millions of people.
I'm sure before November we'll see a lot more of these stoned cretins (pushed a notch in the right direction), it's just good politics and a very convincing argument (for libtards) to confiscate guns
typical reply from someone with absolutely no knowledge of who I am but has no problem casting aspersions my way(or should I say "ass-persions?)...good job!
As I have stated weed is unprocessed, it is dried flower. The ancients used poppy for centuries to treat many things. Look at the opium wars, the Britt"s thought they knew it all ,just like today. China did fine with opium poppy. Heroin is highly processed from poppy.
Cocaine is processed, heavily, from the coca leaves, again a natural plant. Indigent people used this leaf again for all types of medicinal uses for centuries. The Pope when visiting Chile chewed the leaves to overcome altitude sickness.
In the past cocaine and opium where used for pain, during the civil war how do you think the amputees survived the pain? That's right the two natural substances you just mentioned. Now comes weed, it has never killed anyone! It by far the safest substance that man has used as a medical agent and for recreation.
See, you just illustrated the problem with all you anti-weed people. You really are ignorant about any of these substances and their role in history. Do you realized how many medications we have that are from plants or the certain substances they produce? Do you think our medication come from oil or something? Animal oil yes, again another part of nature.
You guys just repeat lies to one another then spew them to the next guy. It is all bias. Now, do you want to discuss the effects of one of the dirtiest and most death dealing drug man has ever made? That would be booze, oh again it is all processed form plants, what do you know.
I don't think you are wrong that cannabis happens to be involved in these reoccurring events, but its myopic to assume that cannabis is the reason when there are way too many variables of things that obviously contribute to this kind of psychotic behavior.
You are absolutely correct based on what I've seen within my own family and social circle. Marijuana and severe mental illness are a deadly combination.
SCREW "LEGALIZATION". REPEAL THE PROHIBITION. We didn't legalize alcohol... WE ENDED THE ASSININE PROHIBITION OF IT. Take your authoritarian ass to some other country.
No, I'm about to go get some $1 jumbo wings at my local pub where I can drink alcohol since the PROHIBITION was REPEALED back in 1933 with dinosaur mentality like your sorry ass.
If you read his book, you would know that Alex endorsed decriminalization (not full legalization) in the Epilogue. I don't know if he still believes in that today, but I think that shows he's hardly a hardcore prohibitionist.
The Chinese are turning this country into Auschwitz with their fentanyl imports but weed is the real problem because some psycho who killed people smoked it once seven years ago. We all know you’re a stooge for Pfizer.
Take a look at all the data covid makers use to push their drugs. His book is not reality., and he does not consider the many variables. For instance, and especially in this latest shooting. This kid had mental problems from early on as just now reported. Long before any weed usage. Many of these kids, as school social workers will tell you, resort to street drugs to try to stop the mental anguish. And that is what weed can do, it can dumb pain, both physical and mental. These kids already have problems and are made worse by pharmas SSRIs, as a matter of fact school shootings started around the time SSRIs were pushed hard by pharma. Look, weed was used heavily in the 1960s and there were no school shootings. This is the stuff the good doc misses in his analyses. The correlations are garbage., And here's another point. These accusation of mental illness caused by weed did not really surface until legalization was up for a vote. Isn't that ironic. We know pharma is scamming us on covid, well they have been at war with weed for decades with the same garbage science. What we really need to look at is the pathetic SSRI handed out like candy to kids, this is the real culprit that is glossed over by the media and politicians, sound familiar? Yeah, it is a similar playbook used for the death shot.
Everyone everywhere is AFRAID to make waves about weird behavior. My daughter was a 6th grade teacher, and there was one particular student who was clearly disturbed. He would with no provocation pick up a chair and throw it at the wall. He deliberately threw a rock on the playground and it hit my daughter on the cheek. The school had an "occasional" school psychiatrist. The parents of his kid were told of his behavior and they took it personally, like you were accusing THEM of being bad parents. No concern for addressing the child's bad behavior and figuring out how to get him some help.
So what was the solution? They sent the kid to another school to get rid of him. He had problems at the next school, so they sent him to yet another school. And so it went. Over the school year he went to virtually every school in the area, and eventually ended back up at my daughter's school. In my opinion there is no readily available help for such children. Either the schools want to pass a child on to get rid of him/her, or the parents refuse to accept the kid has a problem, or perhaps a combination of both.
There is no easy solution to this ongoing problem.
I would be very interested to know where he is today, what sort of life he is leading, if he has been in trouble, etc.
Anybody can find studies that meet their bias. Pharma pays for biased studies. The government pays for biased reporting. Haven't we learned that with Covid? It is wacky to only believe studies that say what you want to believe and then treat them as gospel.
I have a lot of personal experience with hundreds of people. I am not going to believe ANY book that contradicts my personal experience. It's a good guideline for anybody. And if your personal experience is the pot is bad for you, or the people you know, certainly go with your experience. I don't need to dictate what other people should believe. I just want space for myself and my experiences.
Yes, it is called Gell-Mann Amnesia. As one example. It works like this. You read the paper and notice an article about something that you happen to be an expert on. The article is garbage and ignorant, you scream out loud how false the information is and the reporter obviously a dolt.
Then you go on to the next article which you know nothing about the subject and find it very informative and interesting, this story forms in you a bias. But, there is a person who is an expert on that subject and is screaming out how ignorant the story is, the one you just accepted.
You easily forgot how reporters can be dolts and blindly accepted the second story on its face value.
That in a nutshell is the commenters in this forum. many conservative, who have a learned bias from years of demonizing weed by pharma. They have total amnesia about the covid scam and accept the very same scam on weed. It's sad and hilarious.
These idiots act like they know what they are talking about and I doubt they could identify what weed flower even looks like. They are crushingly stupid on the subject and their credulity is off the charts.
That is bullshit. Here in Colorado we've had so many newbies to weed come through the state since legalization.. You know what they ALL are that end up in the ER? People who used too much, especially eatables, since the effects are not felt for maybe an hour and they over indulge. To a new person the psychotic effects, especially from eatables, can be frightening and they end up in the ER scared to death. They stay for a few hours as the effect wear off. No worse for the wear, This is the problem with all you novice know-it-all's. You are totally ignorant on the subject. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. You have zero experience. It is just sooo pathetic. NO ONE DIES FROM WEED. Tell me that about booze! Don't believe me, talk to a weed state ER doc or nurse, they'll tell you exactly what I just wrote.
Alex, why does the U.S. govt have a patent on the neuroprotective qualities of cannabis showing medical value while still keeping cannabis as a Schedule 1 drug with no medical value? Probably for the same reason you continue this bogus yellow journalism going. Big money doesn't want the repeal of cannabis prohibition. You're a paid for trash journalist. 6630507
Probably the same reason the governmentS all over the world have a 'patent' on opiates, they are dangerous substances that can NOT be prescribed to just anyone and for no medical reason
Idiot potheads can’t comprehend it but that can be easily explained. Really, it self-explanatory-stoners aren’t that smart after overindulging in their favorite pastime for a while.
And you can't really offend me by your idiotic comments. Just the fact that I never touched any illegal substance puts me way about your pathetic ass. But that's not why I comment here since your approval or disproval makes no difference to me. I am on Alex's side, and I would like more people to learn about the dangers of cannabis, and other drug use to which cannabis addiction leads to.
im so grateful to be able to see peoples thoughts with vulgarities. you get such watered down bs in favor of one side on twitter. this still make you ok the comment but how else would we know how sanctimonious you are. Do you think professors that have to take pain medicine couldn't run laps around you? do you think professionals that have couple drinks a week are simpletons also? I'm very glad you have shown yourself. Also, fentynal death are almost exclusively caused by the cartels making it over the boarder cheap, pressing it into pill form to look like percocet, the kids think they are taking it and don't know to not do the whole thing. I lost many, my 16 yr old cousin almost a year ago, but all from fake percocet. local gangs near big cities don't care, it never comes back on them. these people weren't stupid and wreckless, they were tricked and killed. No one it seems is doing anything about it. dems care more about making the orange guy look crazy than opiod epidemic and inflation. wtf, all i hear from Dems is stuff i care nothing about. good for ya'll, be happy, do whatever, but if you are going to be in government maybe do something besides turning LA into a open air drug den i can't walk in.
Correlation isn’t causation Duurek. That’s been proven long ago. You too sound like a person with absolutely zero knowledge of cannabis effects or usage. Just a lot of personal bias.
Perhaps. But there is research and data that Alex shares so don't take my word for it. Personally, my 28-year-old son overdosed on fentanyl this year so forgive me if I don't give a fuck about your "personal" biases and opinions. It all started with pot about 14 years ago. He was hiding this shit from me but then he didn't when he became an adult and it escalated. So yes, I hate drugs, drug dealers and ignorant drug use enablers, with a passion.
You want to be a pothead-it's your ass but do not try to push your ignorance on us as some kind of "debate is over" shit. I was getting close to a libertarian approach of legalizing all drugs and making the habit safer to save more kids and adults from overdosing but recent experiment in Oregon shows us that it DOES NOT WORK.
That was just a figure of speech. Like I said I don't give a shit about opinions of ignorant potheads who love their fix so much that they can't get their heads out their own asses far enough to see how full of crap they are. The data is there, and this crisis calls for an open debate. It's a non-starer for someone to say that cannabis does not cause psychosis or schizophrenia without any data backing their view except all the lies they have been feeding us for the longest time.
I have the same perspective from experience, but have obviously reached a completely different conclusion. Which we are both more than entitled to have.
It is funny how Alex was chiding Jordan Schachtel just last week for not having the full story, and now, apparently, a friend's passing reference to a "stoner" is more than enough evidence that Marijuana caused psychosis in a mass shooter.
Come on man ...... you know what I'm talking about. A 95% THC dab is in no way comparable to smoking a 20% joint. These kids smoke these dabs all damn day.
I wonder if telling adolescent white males they're bad people for 40 years - they're the root of all problems, guilty of toxic masculinity, racism, and other evil, forcing medications on them to control normal male behaviors, driving them to seek refuge in video games and weed, locking them indoors from "Covid" ----- has had anything to do with 18-22 year old males suddenly exploding into incredible violence.
Seemed somewhat predictable there would be a price to pay for flogging young males for so many decades.
Testosterone is a very powerful hormone, It was, from creation, intended to charge young males of our society with an agressive/protective behavior. When correctly channeled we see great leaders and defenders. TLC squelches all that. But our culture has been fragmented into group think and tribalism. Drugs like marajauna are only one facet, one of many arrows, shot through the heart of our society. Our educators teach it, politicians promote it, and media celebrates it. Nikita Khrushchev on November 18, 1956 told world ambassabors "We will bury you". You don't see communist China's army getting high or transgendering. You don't hear their generals spouting critical race theory. FOCUS AMERICA, understand what this woke culture truly is.
Pharma is not to be blamed, it's the POLITICIANS that do whatever they are paid for (by pharma). Pharma didn't legalized drugs, POLITICIANS did (more specifically LIBTARDED politicians)
It's not just White Males....Young men and women are being beaten into submission to use drugs that enhance depression psychosis on a daily basis. It's Society that's broken. Blaming objects such as guns or drugs , banning of both, will not solve the problem. This is a direct tactic of Marxist policies of divide and conquer driven by the left for decades. Read the Rules for Radicals list of goals...It's being played out as we debate weed and guns.
I’m from South America and boys this age are just thinking about hanging out with friends,go out dancing and having sex all the time .Unfortunately there’s not much in this society for white straight males and if they like women and show it it’s wrong .
spent a lot of time in brazil and s america, some very pro american places that are doing very well and they don't go for the crazy left wing stuff too. had a few far lefty friends that believed all the cia conspiracies and that really popular i think but theres a reason Bolsonaro is the president right now in brazil. Honestly, most europeans are looking at the woke plague in america and this might be a shocker but don't think it's genuine. almost like the DNC is making up more Russia Collusion like the make believe epidemic of white supremacy which is to blame for just about everything
Boom. How can a boy or man stay resilient against that decades-long barrage of often subtle but continual abuse? Raising sons awakens parents to this problem, sometimes. Girls are beaten down too, but in different ways.
Agreed. And the culprits? Who owns the media and central banking? Created Communism and Feminism? Is behind both mass migration in to white nations, starts the wars which precipitate such events, manufactures opioids and is the CEO/Chief Scientist at every Convid/jab hawking company? Who killed Jesus and his brother James, and has carried a grudge since 72AD against Europeans?
Refute the points above, attacking the messenger and calling him names will not make reality disappear. You either have been horribly misled your entire life, or you work for the people who do the misleading. Most expelled people in human history, they are good, at the evils they commit.
In the 1920's, Germany was suffering hyperinflation, Berlin had fallen to the Bolsheviks next door, poverty and starvation were rampant. Non-German immigrants were flooding in, and the people and culture were in despair. The Treaty of Versailles imposed draconian fines on Germany, and also separated native German regions and populations, where those people were being murdered by Leftists. In to this chaos, in to the near complete destruction of one of Europe's greatest nations, came an idea. A group of men, led by an Iron Cross WW I hero (who went back in to battle over and over, despite being injured) gave Germany the strongest world economy in the 1930's. This man identified the bankers and degenerates in his nation, and he isolated and denatured them. He warned us of the evils now destroying the USA/UK/OZ/NZ/Canada. The commie winners of WW II vilify him, neglecting any mention of Stalin, Lenin and Mao. All you need to know. Hail Victory.
At last—someone who sees the big picture. Toxic societal attacks on young white males by feminist ideologues; Racist psychobabble fracturing and Balkanizing our society; and constant flagellation by varied fluid identity-crises of numerous self-defined victim classes: ALL dumping on young white males has a very real price. We’re seeing it paid in spades right now. Chickens are not what’s coming home to roost—it’s more like Ostriches with their bad attitude tuned up to homicidal.
Get rid of all illegals and there might've been a regular job that shooter bum could've kept busy with. His father owns two businesses, fast food joints, and the kid is not employed there? Sounds like a derelict family, they have kids and don't take care of them.
Well said. Tolerance, has killed our Nation. It is time to divorce The Left, and anyone/anything that supports or worships it. Nature, HATES weakness. So, should we.
I do not say it to preclude righteous compassion. However, when groups of people make the same errors of omission or commission for 1000's of years, they deserve derision and exclusion. We keep falling for the same "victim-hood" scams. Especially the formerly white and Christian nations, which are currently practicing pathological altruism. At some point, we need to name the true enemy, admit we were tricked, and respond in a very measured, and dispassionate way. War, is coming.
Your comments are well thought out. Your first sentence set the tone and thanks for that. The rest of your thoughts caught me off guard and scared me; probably because I agreed with them.
Survival, for all species and sub-species, often includes doing things not necessarily congruent with pleasant society. HOWEVER, not protecting yourself, and admitting when a cunning enemy has been slowly destroying all you hold dear, is your fault, not theirs. When confronting evil, we MUST temporarily hold our noses, and smash their Noses. Which, are rather prodigious. Be strong, align with decent, strong people who look like, and think like you. Nature gave you that reflex for a reason as well.
...and whiskey is stronger than beer, what's your point? That's why whiskey doesn't come in a 16 oz can with a pop top. Todays alcohol is far from harmless for some people. It's literally poison, but it's legal as it should be.
There are some genetics with whom cannabis does not play well. I'm one. Tried it for the first time in my 50's, due to searching for relief from RLS. Went to the time and trouble ($$) of getting a legal card. Had an awful reaction to different strains - pounding heart, extreme anxiety - basically the opposite of what I was searching for. Later found out that my sibling has the same reaction. Did some reading which is where I stumbled across the genetic connection. My point is that, despite what the cannabis industry tells you, cannabis is definitely bad news for some people. It's become so popular and in vogue to believe that it's 'natural' and thus safe. It's not necessarily. I lean libertarian so if consenting adults want to use cannabis, that's their choice for the most part (don't condone when people drive stoned, though, just like I don't condone people drunk driving). But I do think there needs to be more awareness that it's not safe or beneficial for all. And I worry about its effect on the growing brains of teenagers.
And you don’t worry about the massive amounts of alcohol our teens everywhere are consuming? Alcohol has a much more profound effect on people then Cannabis imo, yet it’s still legal. Alcohol sits at #1 on the list of drugs that effect every single cell in your body. Alcohol IS even more destructive to your body then heroin, Cocaine. Meth ect…. Fact. It impairs your brain, your emotions, your ability to walk, drive, parent and the list goes on. Now, when you combine the 2 you have just doubled the effect of the cannabis & alcohol. You all talk about personality changes & cannabis. Well, have you ever noticed how just about everyone who drinks more then 2-3 drinks, acts differently? The introvert is suddenly an extrovert. My Sister turns into Dr. Jekyl when she drinks. Many become jerks when they drink. I’m 67 years old and have been indulging in Cannabis for 50 years on and off. Absolutely NO psychosis. Alcohol on the other hand took over my life, not cannabis. Look at the damage alcohol has played in our Society!! It was even considered a essential business during Covid!! Yes certain people will have negative results, as with any medication, then don’t take it, change it. But grouping all cannabis users into one group is ridiculous. I can tell for a fact that when I was diagnosed with MS in 1991, over 30 years ago, I refused all Big Pharma and resorted to medical Cannabis. I’ve been in remission since I started. I don’t know anyone with a diagnosis of Multiple Sclerosis who hasn’t done a slow slide into bad health. They’re on drugs they will never be able to get off of. The side effect alone are enough to make you want to kill yourself for some. I’m a walking talking billboard for Medical. Just like I chose not to take the jab. It’s not for everyone. I did get Covid and recovered remarkably well compared with my jabbed friends. I will continue to use because it’s working. Alex, you need to cease and desist on this subject line. Or at least give it kudo’s for those who it has helped. I am one of those. I have 4 successful children , my parenting skills are excellent as my children will tell you, I have held down many jobs, I don’t drive on it, people who drink do all the time and literally kill people with their weapon. Alcohol fuels domestic abuse, child abuse, violent crime, put many in the hospital because they can’t handle their beers or whiskey. Has made ALL our insurance rates triple and also fueled a multi-billion a year factory of rehab inhabitants looking to free themselves of this scourge called “Alcoholism !”
Thank you Myriam!! Well, just like Alex said “ the powers that be, have everyone convinced that Alcohol is ok, NOT! It’s one of the most destructive substances there is
I’m not making excuses, I have no need to do that. I know what works for me and that’s all that matters. You gonna tell me my remission of 30 years is not because of cannabis? It’s certainly not from Big Pharma! In fact other recipients of this disease I’ve talked to wish they had never taken the drugs prescribed for them. Now they can never get off. If they do their condition will exacerbate, then a new drug and another and another and another.
People can drink and not become intoxicated. The liver can metabolize alcohol very quickly compared to the drugs you list. Alcohol has a long history and is socially endemic. Drugs are not. There is no good reason to make them so.
Really??? Why do people drink then? It’s expensive!! Why would you pay 8.00 for a glass of vodka if you aren’t getting some benefit? In case you didn’t know, everything you put in your mouth or body goes through the liver, next argument.
Again then why drink? Why not a Soda, water, coffee to be social? Because it relaxes people, takes the edge off as they say. I see your somewhat defending Alcohol. That’s ok. I’m defending Medical Cannabis, because it works medicinally for me, nothing else. Cannot say that about Big Pharma.
Not Alcohol. In fact Alcohol makes many ailments worse. Fact. Socially acceptable or not. Have you ever seen anyone detox from Alcohol?? If it’s so safe and socially acceptable, why do people need to detox from it? Alcohol is not benign.
Elliot I'm thrilled that cannabis worked for your MS; was hoping for a similar result with RLS which was driving me crazy. Many people in the RLS community use cannabis for relief which is why I checked into it myself. I genuinely didn't realize how bad medical cannabis would be for me personally (and didn't know my sibling's experience until I mentioned my own). Agree with your concerns about alcohol and its effect on teens and adults. That being said I can drink once a week and have a nice time and experience no issues. A small bit of cannabis can set me on edge for a couple days. We are aware of the dangers of alcohol but many people are not aware of the dangers of cannabis, or they believe cannabis to be benign. That's my only point. Again, am very happy that it helps control your MS - a blessing for sure.
AM thank you for not demonizing me. Lol I also know many who do not have good effects from cannabis. Like any drug. But here’s another little issue with relying on Big Pharma, nothing they use is natural. In fact you can’t pronounce 1/2 the ingredients in them. Then there’s those 100’s of pesky side effects. Another is if you smoke cannabis, the effect is short lived, in other words you don’t have to wait hours or days to get back to normal feeling. Some cannot smoke it though. Like me. Emphysema. So I have used my own experience as my guide as to what helps me feel better. Just as everyone else drinks, does their Zoloft, BP meds, Ed Meds, cholesterol meds, I do my MS meds
Tiny, tiny anecdote. My stepfather had terminal prostate cancer. He had the pain tolerance of a granite boulder, generally refused any pain meds. But, it was getting to him.
My mother decided to try cannabis. Knew he wouldn't touch it, so she made a soup. He wasn't fond of soup, so she knew she would have to eat it as well. So, they had pot soup for lunch. He had no effects, whatsoever, she slept all afternoon.
If you were to OD on Cannabis you won’t die. Might get sick to your stomach. Alcohol on the other hand WILL kill you if you OD. And that’s a fact Jack. Plus, you might kill someone else as well.
I am not making a case I am just curious -- while individual homicides are often alcohol related how many of the mass killings are, compared to the combination of weed and SSRI of late?
SSRIs are a problem without weed. By ignoring the obvious SSRI connection Alex is doing a great disservice to the public and providing cover for the pharmaceutical industry, whether intentionally or not.
An SSRI deep dive expose is definitely needed...after all ,these drugs come with a BLACK BOX warning regarding suicide and violence in the under 25 yo group.
Just to prove a point, how many violent arrests were people taking something as simple as a smoking cessation drug called Chantix? Also black box warnings. One never knows, that’s the thing. How many times have you gone to the doctor, got more meds and the Doctor NEVer looks at all the others your taking. And if you think doctors know all the Contraindications your sadly mistaken
Are you assuming that SSRIs were involved in the current incident? It seems more logical that SSRIs would get involved only after recreational Marijuana has done its damage. I'm speaking anecdotally as a former psych nurse for adolescents.
It's an open question, isn't it? I try not to assume. But I read (and I'll look for a link to share) that something like 90% of mass shooters are on long term SSRIs. We need to at least ask the question and do the research to know, don't you think?
I believe the point is, Western Society has a history of alcohol use for thousands of years. We pretty much know the negatives and positives of widespread usage. The same cannot be said of marijuana. At this point I am in favor of legalization but we should be a little more circumspect about the possible benefits of this drug and realize that widespread usage may create new problems we are, as of this early date, unaware of currently.
I’m not sure how old you are but Cannabis has been around as long if not longer then Alcohol. No it’s not for everyone, but what Alex is saying is highly suspect. Because I know from experience. I have lived through the 70’s “Wat on Drugs” and lived in the 50’s-60’s. It’s always been there whether underground or legal. The powers just chose to vilify Cannabis instead. Oh!!! But now they want to get in on the action to the tune of billions, millions for each state that goes legal. Not only that but they’re discriminating agaist medical card holders. I just paid 260.00 for my Card. Do you all have to do that to get your BP meds? Are your BP meds covered under insurance? Well my med is not. It’s good for thee, but not for me?
I'm 62 and a half. I should have said we have had a widespread history of alcohol use. Marijuana may have been "around" for that period of time but not under widespread use.
As for your blood pressure, have you considered walking, time restricted eating, deep breathing exercises, eliminating sugar from your diet and meditation? These will work far better than cannabis. And they're free and the side effect is more energy and overall health. How do I know? 12 years ago my BP was 150 / 85 .. this Morning it was 114/63 with a resting heart rate of 47.
I myself do not have a BP problem. I didn’t make that clear. That was just an example. I’m 67 yrs I take no Pharmaceuticals. Supplements, that’s it. I excerise regularly ( walk a lot ( dogs) , don’t drink and I use my Higher Power as my guide. All said, I’m doing damn good for my age. Gratitude.
Sorry I thought. you said, "Do you all have to do that to get your BP meds? Are your BP meds covered under insurance? Well my med is not. It’s good for thee, but not for me?
Saying "Well my med is not." implies you are paying for BP meds. So in the future if you care to argue points with people, do them the courtesy of not MAKING SHIT UP. Thank you.
Thats completely untrue Marijuana has been in widespread use for thousands of years. The earliest records date back almost 5000 years and for millenia people in India, the Middle East and China have documented it’s widespread use in those societies.
That's why I noted that we in the West and particularly in America have had virtually no history with widespread marijuana use. And next time you says something is "documented", provide me a link. There is certainly no "widespread" marijuana use in India, the Middle East or China today. My quick duck duck go search indicated cannabis is illegal in India, China and Egypt. Wonder why they ALL gave this miracle drug up?
Not sure about the container analogy - whisky comes in tiny concealable bottles, flask like bottles, quarts and half-gallons all with screw on tops. And you can buy all manner of mixes in pop-top cans.
Point being the user can determine the "dose"...and resealable containers imply the intent is not to consume the entire bottle in one swallow. People know there's a difference between beer and hard liquor which is why they don't drink the same quantity of hard liquor as they do beer. Seems pretty simple. More potent cannabis means less smoke entering the lungs...good for the consumer. I think we can all agree less smoke in the lungs is a good thing.
Alex..while I am sick to death of this weed culture and teaching kids it’s totally benign and actually beneficial for anxiety/depression, you are missing a huge piece of the puzzle. Vaccines are causing mental illness. Seven years ago researchers from university of VA discovered lymphatic vessels directly linking the immune system to the brain. We know these ingredients are reaching the brain causing everything from Alzheimer’s and yes autism to mental illness. First line of defense are SSRis or antipsychotics mixed with benzos. These meds can tip a mentally unstable person into suicidal or homicidal ideation. So while your concerns about cannibas are valid I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Not to mention whether these individuals suffer from severe alienation. Also, our food is so contaminated and there have been studies done in Japan on “soy rage” — specifically how the amount of soy in our food is having severe affects on our young men. It’s not just weed. It’s all his environmental factors—including how society portrays white cis men as evil. No one is looking at all factors. We’re failing as a society.
For sure. We are living in a toxic soup. I would bet my life the two biggest assaults to the brain, especially for young people, are vaccines and psych meds. These kids now receive 72 doses by the time they’re 18. Add these mRNA boosters to the mix and my god, we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. We are destroying an entire generation.
Don't forget TV, Hollywood action and violent/horror movies and violent video games - aka social engineering!
These have greatly influenced our youth, on purpose. I started noticing this 20 years ago while raising my daughters. When I would point it out (no video games in my home) to my children, they would tell me I was hypersensitive.
I encourage everyone to listen to Megyn Kelly’s latest interview with Gavin de Becker. Gavin wrote the book Gift of Fear (excellent!). Gavin stated in the interview that the #1 pre-incident indicator for mass violence is misery and alienation. Why has the number of mass shootings increased? What is our misery index? Dark humor is always a precursor. We are in enormous trouble because of mass formation, alienation and division. What’s the common thread of all these mass shootings? It’s a combination of things and not just weed. https://youtu.be/Qhd-W4SPgI4
Totally agree. We are sadly guinea pigs and victims of Pig Pharma and will continue to be so because they’re in bed with our corrupt government. They (Pig Pharma, CDC, FDA, Govt.) are using us and abusing us with impunity. And we’re being force fed this garbage or our lives suffer hardship. My hope is people are waking up and seeing what they’re doing to our society. My hope is more people are pushing back like hell. These corrupt organizations have one goal — to divide us, to control us so we’re complicit to their evilness.
Thank you~~I just stated the same above. It's their first go-round with Big Pharma and it can get them hooked for life. I was born in 1960 and the number of vaccines we were given as children pales in comparison to what they are given now. It's absolutely mind-boggling how many products they are injected with at an early age. How in heaven's name could that not have an effect on their brains and bodies?
I was born in ‘59 and I think I got three. My siblings and I all had chickenpox, mumps, measles, rubella. Now children get 72 vaccines and we wonder why we have the sickest population of a developed nation? All by design.
I have studied and researched childhood vaccines for 30 years, starting when I had my 2nd daughter and watched her become ill and have an extreme personality change after her vaccines in infancy. She had chronic ear and upper respiratory infections after the shots. She is not autistic but has ADHD. My former husband had her medicated with Ritalin, Vivance and a cocktail of other dangerous meds against my will starting at age 14. I worry about her brain health from those meds.
I never gave her or her older sister any more vaccines, did not vaccinate my two youngest daughters who were born at home.
I personally know 6 families in Miami, whose children became Autistic after a triple vaccine. No one makes the connection because their pediatrician tells them they are "safe and effective" and will deny they create any problems. Vaccines are their bread and butter!
Your analysis on Covid has been heroic but I have suspected that the overuse of THC vehicles can indeed produce mental imbalance. I’ve seen the results in people I have known. Too much of any drug is toxic. And like alcohol it reacts in different people in different ways.
I've never used drugs of any sort, I love my real life too much. Never gambled, instead I invested in myself. Never smoked cigarettes, I value being an athlete, and love my health. Never have had any degeneracy, got married, and remained faithful. Took on increasing responsibility with various roles in my career, after wife and I paid our own way through my graduate schools. She has been a stay at home Mom through the late 1990's up to the early 2010's. No complaints from either of us. We also never bought in to any Leftist media, agendas, or anything the large nose crowd uses to denature our men and women, and by proxy, the family. They are a filthy, degenerate people, with enormous levels of psychopathy, homosexuality, transsexualism, pedophilia, and a propensity to cheat their own grandmothers. Hail Victory.
Have built a number of very successful businesses, my Mom died long ago, leaving me generational wealth, which I will pass on to my children. As for degeneracy, Tel Aviv is the gayest city on Earth, and all of my reproductive actions have been with my wife, who is one of two genders, which for millennia, has been called female.
That exchange is "evidence"? So mass murder is the behavior of the"typical stoner". I think Alex is distracting from the fact that almost all shooters are on psych meds, SSRI'S in particular, whether or not there is "evidence" of cannabis use.
I would also like to know the prescriptions that he was taking. Maybe these with pot are a toxic cocktail. Not everyone will react this way but enough that we should be concerned.
Most shooters were on some type of psych drug. I’m sure this guy was too. My daughter had a breakdown at 17. She was immediately put on Wellbutrin and Zoloft. The Zoloft was awful. She begged to be taken off, but turns out do c said it will take 6 weeks to taper down. It was a really difficult 6 weeks. From there it was 8 years of docs trying and adding meds. She got put in benzos and those took her 9 months to get off slowly once I convinced her she would never get her life back until she got off all the meds. One thing we learned was some people genetically can’t handle certain meds. One doc had her do genetic testing and it tuned out SSRIs like Zoloft were contraindicated for her based on her genes. The doc said no wonder you felt so awful on it. Anyway 8 years later she is off all drugs and is a different person. The drugs made her upset, stressed, and angry. After everything I witnessed I’m convinced they contribute to great amounts of violence and disability. When my daughter was on them she couldn’t go to school or work. She couldn’t even read. Now she is top of her class at college and writes for a local paper.
So glad she survived it! My youngest daughter also had a breakdown when she was 17. They tried to put her on Lamictal. I almost caved in, because we get desperate to help, but recalled a book I’d read years earlier by Dr Peter Breggin called “Reclaiming our Children”. I started doing some serious research and also discovered Robert Whittaker’s book “Anatomy of an Epidemic” After reading that very well researched book, I told the therapist and psychiatrist that she absolutely would not take any of those drugs.
So glad to hear your good news! My daughter the same, since 16 years of age with anorexia & self harming. Now in early 20s and every time she sees a new shrink they up the dose - her brain is fried. She now has seizures, fits and massive mood swings. It's legalised POISON!!! Breaks my heart, but she won't listen to me...
Same here. There was lots of self harm and eating disorder. Do t give up on her! I know it is so hard. Read mad in America. Their website had resources to help wean off drugs. Also Peter Breggin. Just share information and don’t push. It took a few years and one day my daughter just said she was ready and believed she would be better if she got off everything. It took her 9 months. Take good care of yourself so that you can be there for her! Also take a Family Connections DBT class for parents.
I’m sorry. It’s so hard. I know the Dr.s had my daughter believing that the only way to feel better was to take the drugs they wanted to prescribe. She asked me what other choice did she have? Well cognitive behavioral therapy for one. I hope I can keep her away from it because you’re right. It is poison.
You’re pushing a rock up a steep hill. Cannabis Psychosis is not a primary Dx—it’s an aggravating symptom of concomitant SSRI/NSRI use. THOSE are the neuron-warpers. These sick puppies on psychotropics also co-medicate with ETOH as well as Cannabis, but the underlying condition isn’t etiologically grounded in Cannabis use. The psychotropic effects of Cannabis might exacerbate underlying mind-junk, but it’s Psychiatric science-project prescription-madness that initiates the psychotic breaks.
Cannabis (to a much lesser extent than hallucinogens like LSD) can induce schizophrenia that you were already predisposed to and that would surface eventually. But it’s not some intense drug that causes insanity. People who think it does really have no idea how extensively it’s actually used on a daily basis by most people, and it’s usually because they’re nerds that don’t get invited to parties or have people truly open up to them.
Yes. It is a real effect and denying it does nothing to serve the cause of good policy. Just like with alcohol there are perceived benefits and real risks, and just like with mRNA shots, the government doesn't have any business telling us what we can, can't, or shall use in our bodies.
It's possible, but Farmer's comment was definitive, as though he KNOWS what happened, when nobody can say for sure at this point, either way.
Though I am not really too impressed with the argument that such craziness would have emerged either way. Seems like so much hand-waving to me.
I had a friend in college who smoked a lot of pot and became manic. As far as I know, he never had that issue beforehand. I smoked some myself and found that after some period of time, I experienced paranoia. I stopped smoking and never experienced this again.
Dave I watched a friend partake at a party in college and he went off the rails and was never the same again. I've also watched 100's of others use with no long term ill effects. Also, Manic episodes tend to manifest in college age people. The data is there but its hard to tease out. Still not a justification for prohibition.
Alcohol is far more effective at inducing uncontrollable and aggressive behaviour. Also, you seem to completely lack any understanding of how psychosis works. The police already have concluded that this was a shooting planned weeks in advance, Cannabis induced psychosis only occurs during periods of heavy use, which means youd be so high during your psychotic episode theres no way you could carry out a shooting. Furthermore, In the few instances cannabis does cause psychosis, it is acute, meaning it ends after the drug leaves the body. How on earth is acute marijuana psychosis supposed to cause this guy to plan a shooting for weeks in advance?
Most of these mass shooters come from good families. The problem is all this social media exposure and influence. Think about all these videos showing violence and glamorizing it that rappers /singers make and stream online. When will the government realize this and censor all these violent videos/video games/photos etc...that appear online???
Looks like the attacks on Alex's cannibas position is coming from people who enjoy using it. They disparage his character by attacking him rather than coming out with the evidence that there is no such thing as cannibas induced psychosis and violence. Mixing drugs like cannibas and ETOH together with the violent culture of video games can produce illness. There is no doubt about it. Add in legally prescribed drugs that are being used to "normalize" rather than treat underlying disease is an American Medical thing. the U.S. is so far ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to asking for and receiving drugs as a cure-all for everything. Doctors succumbed to patients more than 20 years ago when prescription drug marketing became a reality. And the Pharma companies love it!
But Alex there is a bale of money to be had for the politicians in the legalization of cannabis, a few bad seeds here and there shouldn't be of any concern. Although actually fertilizing these bad seeds opens the door(s) to those who desire impleminting their "Liberal World Order" now doesn't it ?
You also go to jail in the Philippines if you are not repeatedly jabbed for convid, I have a very sick friend there in Davao City, she was forced to jab or starve and go to jail.
They have been pretty draconian in Philippines with regard to COVID, which is one reason I left in early 2020. Going back this August as things have loosened up a bit.
Almost every young adult that my college-aged children know is taking anti-anxiety meds, anti-depressants and/or meds for ADD/ADHD. There’s also an incredible amount of dysfunction in this age group and it has been obvious to me since my kids were in elementary school. My husband and I have many hundreds of times pondered the question, “What is it that has affected this generation like this?” I always come back to some sort of chemical exposure. Something in utero? ADD/ADHD meds (I understand these may be necessary for some but they seem to be wildly and widely overprescribed, especially to boys)? The SSRIs that the doc’s start pushing around puberty, especially to girls? Unsocial media has no doubt contributed to a widespread feeling of unhappiness in this age cohort and it has also created some supremely nasty people as this group seems to derive some pleasure from tearing people down. Drug use (illegal, pot, inappropriate use of prescription meds) contributes to the whole mess. I am but one mother who has observed this generation up close for 21 years and what I see is alarming. Parents don’t parent. Doctors push meds that aren’t needed. The schools don’t educate properly. Unsocial media and the MSM normalize antisocial and deviant behaviors. Public figures actively advocate for pot for everyone (see, e.g., John Fetterman). I can see where the problems are. I can even see, to some extent, ways to right the ship but I feel like I am a mostly lone voice screaming into the void.
You are not alone. I’ve watched it for 23 years as well and have just been shocked at how many of the kids, now young adults, have been taking meds since elementary school. I, be tried to warn some of my friends about putting their sons on ADD meds but what do I know? They listen to their doctors. So I also scream into the void. The teachers want boys to behave like girls, and if they don’t, they are ADD or ADHD and drugged. They all get phones at 9 or 10 years old exposing them to all kinds of social contagions, especially girls. Parents better wake up.
With all due respect, correlation does not equal causation. Research 101. Let’s wait and see, shall we, what other psychotropic medications he was on + mental health history? I am not saying that cannabis is not contributing here, but to say it is “the cause” is ridiculous. Do better.
Three comments: 1) Correlation is not causation, 2) Your reasoning sounds a lot like "Reefer Madness 2022", 3) If you want to make a point about cannabis the point should be that cannabis smoked is not a good idea and cannabis smoked chronically is as healthy as alcoholism (though the mechanisms and impacts are very different) and probably indicative of an underlying psychological and/or physiological disorder.
The human body comes with a widely distributed cannabinoid receptor system and it's now recognized as an important part of of the functioning of our immune systems. Railing against "cannabis" without including these important distinctions (i.e. "smoking it is bad for you" "chronic smoking is part of a constellation of symptoms of a mental health disorder") is inaccurate, anti-scientific, and credibility destroying.
Additionally, if I were managing a strategic PR campaign on behalf of Pharma to undermine a major competitor to many multi-billion dollar drug products, you'd be my best buddy. I'm sure this is not your intention. Tighten it up. You could do a lot of good in this arena and being rabidly anti-cannabis it not the path.
Somewhere along the line Alex read up on the data linking cannabis to mental illness and wrote a book about it. Cannabis fanatics have hated him ever since.
Bring data against what? He basically just points out weed use whenever someone commits a crime without any sort of evidence that the weed use is linked to the crime. You can't prove a negative.
Bring data against the data in his book. He points out cannabis use and criminality because it's real world examples of what he was talking about in his book. The book has plenty of evidence that cannabis is strongly linked to mental illness and violent crime. Read it.
I'm not going to read a book from a journalist to respond to a comment. The fact is he is trying to link this particular mass shooting to weed. There's more evidence that it was due to the guy being a anarcho-socialist than there is to weed here. It would be equivalent to saying Feynman won a Nobel prize because he dropped some acid now and then
Part of the problem with taking anything Berenson says seriously on the subject is he might cite some studies but he doesn't read studies critically
One difference from other mass shooters is that he seems to have a father in his life. Other than that, he seems to share a similar background with all the others.
"Anatomy of an Epidemic" by Robert Whitaker is a well-researched deep-dive into the failure of SSRI's (and other psychiatric medications). Once you read it, you can't understand why these medications are still prescribed. Then you remember that the pharmaceutical cartel is the biggest lobby in the nation...And I think Alex is absolutely on target about marijuana.
My son has been on SSRIs for years now, just found out he's vaping marijuana as well. In 7th grade he had debilitating OCD. We did the SSRIs out of desperation. We tried tapering a few times, things got worse. Looking back I wish we went another way. I see photos of him prior to grade 7 and his eyes looked vibrant and alive. He also got convinced he's trans. It's really been too much. I feel society failed him and I didn't know how to properly combat the influences coming at him.
Maybe we should roll the investigation back further in time and ask why so many kids have so many psych issues today for which they get medicated? Why are so many young teens being diagnosed with ... as I’ve seen just scanning this thread ... OCD, ADHD, “breakdowns,” self-harm, transgenderism, etc. etc.? Is anyone interested in investigating the root causes of this level of dysfunctional self-absorption in younger people, or nah?
Definitely! However I still don’t know the source of my daughter’s breakdown. If she had some sort of trauma,she hasn’t admitted it. The therapist wouldn’t tell us anything. She grew up in a 2 parent intact home with a sister and a dog. We had our kids later in life so we are end of the boomers and not helicopter parents at all. We both volunteered at school and kept them active but not over scheduled. Had dinner together at least 5 night s a week. Anyway, seems like we are about as normal as can be but still ended up with a troubled daughter. She didn’t get a phone until she was 13. One of the last in her class but I honestly wish I had waited until she was 18 as I suspect outside influences.
I absolutely agree with you about outside influences. Lots and lots of parents appear to be doing everything in their power to give their children a solid start in life, but something outside their influence is getting into their kids' heads. Our social culture, or whatever you want to call it, clearly needs a complete overhaul when it is destroying the psyches of even the best-raised kiddos. I don't know how or if that can even happen without blowing everything up and starting again from scratch.
I'm sure there will be A LOT more of these Psychos in near future (especially since they can be used to confiscate guns from normal people - the 'authorities' will push 'a notch' some of these in the 'right' direction)
Blaming what he did on cannabis use, could be shortsighted and perchance a selective opinion based on your bias! It was mentioned after Gabrielle Gifford was shot males in their 20’s may go through bouts of temporary psychosis. Underlying mental disorders often show up in the 20’s as well! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1925038/ As with any substance that alters the mind, overuse in some may not be wise! There are millions who use cannabis and do not choose to kill others, just as there are millions who take mind altering substances who don’t either. The issue more than likely is an underlying mental disorder and unfortunately those who suffer from such may be prone under the influence of various substances to act in such a nefarious way.
Must consider all medication this lost soul was taking including cannabis. The Pharma med use is off the charts the past 20 years...especially with the young
The movie “Reefer Madness” may have exaggerated the effects of cannabis. However to discount cannabis (namely the psychoactive component THC) as having no deleterious effect on some individuals and contributing to psychosis is truly madness.
Amazing and disturbing comments. Some of you need to get out and get away from those video games. Smoked "normal" weed when i was a teen in the 70's...had to stop because of the endless loops inside my brain housing group, and the paranoia...boy howdy! Later in life a DEA pal told me that the pot is more potent today (circa 2015), but WTF do I know...
I'm a person who lived my teen years in the 60's. I actually lived in the Haight-Ashbury area in 1967-1968 and hung out there nearly daily. At the time cannabis was considered a benign mother herb and a cure all. I smoked it at that time but stopped shortly thereafter. Most of my friends continued smoking it and one by one they were slowly destroyed by it. I'm now 74 but the longest lived of all of them was in their late 50's. Not only did it contribute to their deaths, but it had eventually ruined their psyches and health. You'll never convince me that it was just a coincidence. It happened to all that continued using it and friends that had stopped early on are still alive and doing well.
I’m guessing he was also on ADHD and or antidepressant medications, which are methodologically as difficult to disentangle as cannibis use. I wonder if pot & psych drugs work synergystically?
Looking at that fellow's face it's hard for me to see "typical stoner kind of guy."
I was all for overturning Roe v. Wade, but as a parent, I reserve my right to choose a fitting punishment for any one of my children who turns into a heavy drug user with facial tattoos.
It’s illegal to kill, people still do. Regulating pot won’t stop anyone from smoking.
Though I find it disgusting myself, I have tons of pothead friends who wouldn’t hurt a fly.
Many prescription drugs people are hooked on in this country can enhance psychosis and violence. I’d be far more interested in knowing which cocktail of prescribed drugs this idiot is in.
And, by the way, your anti-vaccination rant did nothing for me. I’m still unemployed. Which reaffirms the fact that this country is a powerful pharmaceutical force and that’s exactly why they want to put their hand on marijuana too.
Yes, it does. Ask a heroin user. Their slang for heroin is "junk" because even addicts recognize it has no real redeeming value as a substance beyond its addictiveness & momentary escapism. No songs really praise it. No one is claiming heroin cured any illness or condition they had prior to using it. Verdict is pretty much unanimously negative, even among users.
Tucker Carlson aired a segment last night that pointed out just how much Pfizer sponsorship supports the libtard media. I'm a free enterprise guy, hey make as much as you want, and keep it from big brother, but pharmaceutical companies are not innocent when it comes to making billions from the suffering of others. Don't think Pfizer didn't write on Joe Dumbass's note card, "YOU: I'm mandateing those vaccines."
It's the dog that didn't bark. He let 30 days of gay pride parades go by unscathed. Then, on July 4th, he guns down dozens of people celebrating the birth of their country.
Lezlieliberty keeps saying, "enjoy your day" and "have a nice day" because she realizes that her POV makes no sense. What's the first thing a government does before it turns tyrannical and takes complete control? Disarms the population. This has occurred over and over in history, yet all that Lezlieliberty--an oxymoron if ever there was one--can say is "have a nice day." We ought not allow such people to vote.
Again with the stupid reefer madness nonsense.
Again with the stupid cannabis-induced psychosis and violence.
More like SSRI induced. You speak like a person who’s never experienced what marijuana effects actually are like in any capacity. No wonder Joe Rogan doesn’t want to kick it with you .
I have a friend who was addicted to Adderall for six years. Finally realized what she was doing and wanted to stop. And even though it's been a year, she still deals with the chemical ways it's trained her brain and her therapist agrees she still feeling the effects of it.
You don't think chemicals that alter you in some way, like cannabis don't have a lasting effect? That they can't change you, your mood and actions?
I don't need to know the effects of Adderall myself tobelieve my friend when she says she gets intrusive thoughts and can't sleep. I also don't need to know the personal effects of cannabis to not believe the studies and real life impacts.
There's currently this seemingly blind obsession with natural vs. Synthetic products. Synthetic bad, natural good. If a chemical is toxic, does it matter whether it's natural or not? Poison ivy, poison sumac, belladonna, cannabis. Essential oils are toxic to babies under one when not diluted properly..
Exactly. I'm a naturopathic physician, and I agree completely: Many, many natural substances should not be consumed under any circumstances.
The greater point is NATURAL is wise. Its when man thinks he is wiser the real destruction begins
Just imagine if man took sumac or ivy into the lab and concentrated them 100X and applied to humans or animals. Nature protects itself with it's defense only and the plants you mentioned are not used by man in any way. Nature always trumps the EGO of man.
Haha! That's what I always tell people. Rattle Snake poison is 100% all natural too!
Just depends on what it is. But you're right. People see all natural and think it's good. Just like some people are stuck on gluten free. I see gluten free on products that can't contain gluten anyway -- like salt!
But yes, people who smoke week ALL THE TIME tend to become zoned out a lot of the time, even when they're not smoking. I've seen that in people I knew in high school. The stoner kids get that nickname more from the way they are when they're not smoking!
rattlesnake poison is natural? Its not made by man?
The advantage with natural things is that humans have more experience with them and therefore have had the opportunity to learn their risks and benefits.
That's correct. I've read the same thing. Soy isn't the only thing that contains estrogen/synthetic estrogen!
I can verify this. My doctor took me off Adderall after 5 years. I was so upset & it took me forever to realize how bad it was. I wanted to find another doctor, but never did I'm glad. I'm still dealing with the effects, there's way too much to list here, but it definitely rewired my brain. I was on it from 34 to 40 years old, so 5.5 years or so, but i have a baseline to compare, before i got on it. Not everyone has that. Just because something doesn't affect everyone the same way, doesn't mean it can't affect some people that way (like weed).
I briefly dated a woman on Adderall... She slept about 4 hours a night and would become extremely angry at the drop of a hat as they say...
I see the same thing in my area all the time with those medications
I'm not convinced that drugs like Adderall and all the psychomeds actually work. If the approval process for adderral is anything like the approval process I saw for the covid-19 vaxx, I don't want anything to do with it.
My friend, who was diagnosed with ADHD, isn't convinced that ADHD is actually real. There's something going on, but the diagnosis and treatment options for whatever is going on is way off base.
I think I have ADHD; although, I was never tested. I cannot read a book for more than a couple of pages without my mind wandering. I could not, and still cannot, sit in a classroom and do anything but doze off. I struggle with holding a desk job. But, I can frame a house, I can do plumbing, I can build cabinets, I can do photography, I can do electrical work and although I've never tried it, I bet I'd make a good welder. My point is, there's no pill that's going to fix my attention deficit problems but I can find things that don't require that I sit and read 200 pages at one time or stare at a computer all day. I think the kids that can't sit still should be put in woodshop or air conditioner repair or plumbing co-ops and allowed to do things that their mind was designed for.
THAT is how it's been for far longer than "most" people have known. The one GREAT silver-lining of the whu-flu era is far far more people have become aware of just how deep the corruption is and has been for decades with the government-pharma-medical-media cartel. Nothing new here just "in your face" blatantly obvious now since what was done during the plandemic and is still occurring
Remember when the doctors believed Purdue Pharma's claims that oxycontin is not addictive? Imagine that, a trained MD believing that highly pure heroin in a pill wouldn't be addictive. Yes, there is a government-pharma-medical-media cartel -- and add Big Tech to that too because YT, FB, Twitter, and Yahoo all practice censoring anything that suggests that the covid vaxx is potentially harmful.
It's likely it's a multi-factor problem, meaning both can be responsible for the problem either individually or in combination. The social pressures only serve to amplify the reaction or
There is definitely an issue with Cannabis and psychosis. The problem with the Cannabis industry is the same with Big Pharma, there are people with big dollar signs in there eyes that want to ignore the risks.
Regarding the SSRI drugs that are handed out like candy, I encourage anyone to look at the average efficacy of these drugs. It's remarkably low. How exactly do they measure efficacy anyway? If you've ever seen a schizophrenic person it's unlikely they are communicating effectively. Depending on the individual, they can also cause a complete change in personality. Big Pharma is constantly pushing new drug treatments and ignoring lifestyle changes. It's the rare Psych doc that actually even talks to the patient.
We spend A LOT of money on Healthcare, it's just spent in the wrong places. I suspect if we added up all of the money spent on "72 hours treatments" , the ever expanding lists of drugs being prescribed to the mentally ill and the various non-profits and health agencies that barely make a dent in the problem, there would be a lot of money to spend on long term treatment options. The mental health care industry is like a train filled with gold that by the time it reaches it's destination, (the patient) is completely empty. There are a lot of people making money but the patient gains are pretty minimal.
Cannabis has become Pharma like with the tinkering of man to concentrate highly which is never wise. The cannabis use by the indigenous people for 1000's of years in the natural world is not modern day cannabis use for damn sure.
Wrong, the production of hashish which is a concentrated form of cannabis has been happening for thousands of years. Selective breeding over that period was done to increase the yield and potency. Yes that has increased since the advent of indoor gardening technology, but the genetic basis for all the modern strains comes from the coveted landraces obtained from the descendants of ancient cultivators.
Would be interested in seeing that data as in just how it originally was and where it's come and what tech they used to concentrate pre modern age. Sounds like the ancient ways were a natural process not using chemicals etc
Excellent comment I worked with an agency in DC in the 80s who had the problem of psychotic homeless patients all but licked. They even ow Ed their own buildings for housing. It was cheaper than renting. The two social workers and two psychiatrists who conceived of it and worked it did so in lieu of lucrative private practices. When I left the area they were beginning to set up a program for drug and alcohol used. Did anyone
Think to try it anywhere else in the nation ? It was called Community Connections.
I've heard of a similar program first modeled in Wisconsin. Unfortunately what is in place is a low budget "for profit" alternative.
I'm in Maryland. There is a pipeline from the Hospitals to rooming houses in my area. The houses are run by sketchy landlords and I suspect that the hospital social workers are linking indigent patients with them. I know one area of Harford County where there are at least 5 of these properties all run by the same guy. One of them had something like 6 or 7 people living there before one of the boarders lit the place on fire resulting in a couple of fatalities. It wasn't the first fire at one of his properties. This guy leases the property from the owner and then illegally subdivides them. I'm almost 100% sure the same thing happens in Dundalk area of Baltimore County.
My question is is the rate of bi-polar\schizophrenia increasing? Any known studies?
You should read Tracey Higgins book, The girl on the Bridge. She cured herself (with the help of a caring psychiatrist who didn’t want to drug her) of schizophrenia without any drugs. Her story is horrific but at least has a happy ending in that she is no longer psychotic & living a healthy life
He or she must have been just what the heavenly Doctor ordered because it is the relationship with the therapist, in the end, that heals.
My sister was on-off SSRI for years and it somehow turns you into a Zombie who can barely work and be worried all the time.
Pharma companies are so complicit yet never held to "real" as in truly felt accountability. Just look what they have done with humanity in totality with drugs and injections the past 70 years and especially the last 15.
I love the web site https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/. Wow it is eye-opening. I check here any time my doc suggests an SSRI or SNRI (which they seem to do readily once you hit a certain age).
CB1 to CB2 receptor ratio varies greatly with each individual. Savage the Redd are you so bias that you deny the fact that THC’s effect can vary greatly between individuals with psychosis being an adverse effect of THC? Furthermore the FDA is way undermanned to implement any standardization in the cannabis industry.
Undermanned? It's not just a labor issue. The revolving door from the regulating agencies to Big Pharma is just to big to ignore. NIAID (Fauci) functions as a drug venture capital startup. They fund the University research, which is used to create the drugs. The drugs are patented and then licensed by Big Pharma. The reason no one asks questions about risk are that no one wants to know the answer to that question.
The FDA and CDC are in bed with Big Pharma. At a minimum they receive 30% of their revenue from the sale of drugs and vaccines. They don't ask questions about risk or challenge Big Pharma, because they don't want to know the answer. They have effectively turned themselves into procurement agencies. The kind of incestuous relationship that the FDA and CDC have, would land a procurement official in prison for a very long time.
P.S. Years ago, I was a salesman for a company that ended up having major SEC violations The people in charge knowingly approved some very stupid decisions. Unfortunately, they were too busy counting commission checks and future stock options to ask the "wrong" questions that would have brought them to their senses. I am getting the same vibes from the CDC and FDA.
I don’t disagree. It’s just I could write a book on that topic. Oh yeah, someone actually did. RFK Jr. “The Real Anthony Fauci”.
Great book!
I have been around and partook in marijuana usage for the better part of 25 years. I’ve seen and had first hand experience in the potency change. It HAS changed dramatically but the effects remain the same. Paranoia, munchies, dry eyes and mouth. When it wears off so do the effects. I have never in all of my years and likely 10-1000’s of interactions ever seen anyone psychotic from marijuana alone. Let alone it be the culprit in combination with anything else. I have seen 100’s of drunken psychotic people on pharmies or alcohol or the combo do absolutely insanely stupid, dangerous and Ill-advised things. I speak from first hand experience whereas I see a bunch of circle jerking happening on here. I can find studies that support the vaccines I’m sure too. Does that mean I believe them. No. Who funded them? Who benefits are always the first question that can neutralize a discussion. Alex has these threads so he can sell his books on the subjects. It’s probably one of the reasons why he’s so mad about Twitter. Even though Twitter isn’t a real place.
You make the mistake of assuming everyone reacts to marijuana the way you do. That's like assuming everyone reacts to alcohol like you do--it just doesn't work that way. When you make broad assertions about these substances, about how they are not harmful, you undermine the people who struggle with them the most. Please think about how those most vulnerable might use your words to justify rebounding with a drug they can't navigate like you claim you have.
Well said.
Good for you, sport. Here's a newsflash for you: for some people, marijuana use opens dangerous doors in their brains. It ain't pretty. Just because you haven't seen it means little. Like you, I speak from first-hand experience. Get over yourself.
This is called "confirmation bias".
Alex has settled with Twitter for undisclosed terms.
As if the FDA is going to help in any way. They are completely compromised and have WAY overstepped their authority in every area.
Do you have scientific fact or just anecdotal evidence in support of your position? What I do know is that government likes it when people are drugged and playing video games/using social media/watching Netflix. It keeps most of them from understanding what is wrong with modern society.
Scientific. It’s common knowledge of the CB1 to CB2 receptor ratio varies greatly in humans. It’s well documented in the annals of neurology.
Listen to Dr Mc Fillin’s Radically Genuine podcast. There is plenty of evidence regarding prescription drugs. I haven’t heard him address weed yet though. I believe Abigail Shirer is working on a book about the over prescribing of psychotropic drugs as well
That will likely be a must read
Joe Rogan admitted during his interview with Alex that some marijuana users--people he knows--have had problems with marijuana.
Cannabis affects everyone differently and excessive use of ANY drug (sugar and alcohol included) is likely to have a detrimental effect in the long and sometimes short term.
Personally I know I cant use cannabis, it really screws me up. LSD microdoses however are wonderful (not regularly though).
I can't handle it now. Back in the day, it was chill, but todays weed is off the chain STRONG.
Competent people learn from the mistakes of others. Incompetents have to find out for themselves.
I'm with you. I don't doubt Marijuana is more damaging today with the higher THC levels, but it doesn't make sense to ignore the SSRI's? You only have to research SSRI's for a few hours to know you will never take one (at least that's what happened to me). The more I hear & read about the "dangerous & horrible effects of Marijuana", the more & more it feels like a Big Pharma Campaign to draw attention away from it's profitable SSRI's & put the attention on something that they get zero money from.
Both are true. Psychosis inducing and thus fundamentally the same for way too many. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind. Ask this question: in an alcohol DUI stop, they breathalyze. What do they do with MJ?
Also sharks are dangerous. Let's not ignore them. And bears.
True, we have both where I live, lol ! But.... though dangerous of course, neither of them are able to cause a chemical change in the neurological system...other than perhaps a massive and immediate natural adrenaline dump into the blood stream when either if spotted !
SSRIs, bears, sharks have one thing in common though: they're unrelated to this conversation (unless I have missed something).
I’ve known bears and sharks who offer cogent thinking. Well, only compared to some here.
I’m wondering whether guys like you will be like the residents of the town of Dachau who, as the Allies approached, tried to virtue signal by organizing a hasty raid. Or will you remain a true believer until the end? The evidence is there for the world to see, and the smell of death is unmistakable.
Yes. Because as everyone knows, psychoactive drugs affect everyone in exactly the same way. No one has ever had a psychotic response to THC. Or if they did, they did it wrong and it's their fault for being stupid. I am 100% certain of this as I have smoked tons of weed in my lifetime and I know it's safe for everyone to use, as long as they're not stupid about it cuz it can really fuck with your brain if you are.
I would venture if you had not smoked that much weed, you wouldn’t have missed the data, and therefore the point, so badly.
Cringe
Exactly. Nobody wants to talk about that.
More than Half the country celebrated Marxism for the entire Month of June. The 4th of July was just one day.
What sort of marxism did they celebrate in June? Are you talking about pride month?
Thanks Alex. Here come all the rationalizations for weed....
Look into the other meds he was on....we are pumping these kids with meds, poor metabolic health
Why is the Elite media ignoring the high rates of strokes and Heart attacks since the Face Mask and mRNA shots Justin Bieber and his wife! How Many Royalties was the Media Paid from these Pharmaceutical companies in the Past 2 years?
Well, she said it’s due to a undiagnosed hole in her heart from birth. Nothing to see here..
Your mindset is scary if you can't connect the obvious, phizer admitted, dots
I hope your comment is a sarcasm just like mine was
It's the same mindset that effects the CDC and FDA. The concept is too frightening to think about it so they stick their head in the sand. The only difference is, there's no financial gain for the average person. The blue pill is so much easier to swallow for a large segment of the American populous.
I just want to know who the "elite media" are, who made them "elite" and what makes them "elite" ? ? I understand those factors as they apply to politicians... we all know (regardless of which party we belong to !) that "elite" politicians eat expensive ice cream (that seems to be their drug!), they eat in expensive restaurants and go to hair salons, gyms, and festive gatherings that are off limits to others when they declare "lock-downs" for the masses. Are "elite" media the same ? Do they have those types of privileges not allowed to the "underclass/deplorables" ? ?
Elite media are the sellouts and the suck ups to power. The deal is yes, they get those same privileges in exchange for helping power maintain the "official narrative."
Not surprised, the same types have existed for eons ! Think back to Indochina and the French "media", then on to Japan, Korea, Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia... it all starts to sound the same doesn't it !? There seem to always be the "suck-up"... they are anxious to "suck-up" all the exceptional privileges of the elite ruling class... you'd THINK the USA would be smart enough to avoid that trap...LOL !
Exactly. Just google "mass shootings psychiatric drugs" and you'll get an eyeful. And cannabis could certainly be a factor as well.
This is Part of the Marxist agenda to destroy everything.
Difficult to believe such a high percentage of the population misses the part: "side effects include depression, thoughts of suicide....call your doctor immediately if ....". This is on TV at least 30-50 times a day, not advertising psychotropic drugs, no, not at all, if people LISTEN to the "disclaimers" given after the whole range of Rx medications that are a steady parade all day long on television: indigestion, sinus, sleep problems, skin breakouts, diabetes, arthritis, etc., does ANYONE listen to the nightmare list of possible "side effects" ??? Much worse than the condition they are to treat, yet, they all urge people to call their doctor NOW and ASK for ______.
I actually think it's the combination of weed and SSRI's that's fueling these younger shooters. Although I watched my brother go schizophrenic from just weed alone in the 1990's.
Oh are we ever ! And...often starting them at 6, 7, and 8 years old.
Some people shouldn’t be on weed, but prohibition is worse, and worse than that are SSRI’s. I wonder how many of the weed smokers with psychosis issues were also on SSRI’s?
I am sure to say more than half of them.
Alex, are you cannabis naive? Have you never smoked?
You were a science report right? You must recognize that you can't draw valid conclusions from anecdotal evidence. Almost all alienated young people smoke pot. The causality is alienated -> pot, not pot -> alienated. You might as well conclude that rock music causes violence, or video games or not going to church.
Character and drugs are causing violence. If you're a psycho a potent drug can easily turn you into a killer (and that's probably the case with many - the 'right' people give them the 'right' push and we have a front page story that can be used to confiscate guns from the rest of us)
And have you noticed how well it's working for those people giving the "pushes" ?
As well as it works, I don't see them abandoning that tactic any time soon, do you ?
No I don't (unless these people are held accountable next year)
When you say character I would say predisposition. Certainly various stressors can push vulnerable people over the top. But I'd say that a stressor like loneliness or a breakup is much more powerful than the weed of wisdom.
And, we seem to be on a path of spiritual bankruptcy also ! Regardless of a person's religious persuasion, or lack of it, human beings need a spiritual base, a grounding. We have far too many people at present with no spiritual foundation to aid them in developing a moral base or develop personal responsibility.... that even though you desperately want that bike, or coat, or shoes, or phone.... it belongs to someone ELSE, therefore, you can not take it. Foreign concept to far to many.....
Pot can made people very paranoid. Everyone knows this. The stereotype is some slack jawed pot head too limp to do more than shuffle around. The trouble is that it affects some people with paranoia and sometimes those people act on it.
They may be rare. But the damage they do is disproportionate.
Paranoia is a short term phenomenon for people just starting to smoke. Or it reflects social anxiety that people know you are high. It is not a generalized psychotic paranoia. People are paranoid that they will get in trouble, not that the FBI put radios in their teeth. Pot paranoia doesn't involve a paranoid worldview or delusions.
LOL. Rock on man. Light up another one and enlighten us some more.
It’s not anecdotal. Read his paper on Imprimis for a shortened version.
He regularly offers highly correlated data, not anecdotal incidents. When you have multiple, independent studies with high r values, then and only then can you say it is causative (Eg, surgeon general on smoking CAUSES cancer). I don’t think he has made that claim anywhere. But saying his evidence is anecdotal is flat dishonest.
I was referring to this recent shooting incident that Alex wants to make hay with. (A little ghoulish, that.) I'm sure there are studies. If I cared, I'd look up studies that say cannabis is benign. But you guys commenting without ever trying it much, you are like blind men describing an elephant by touch. I have the evidence I need from my experience. My hallucinations say pot is good for me!! ;-) Basta!!
Have you ever tried arsenic? By your fallacious thinking (experiential fallacy), that and suicide are misunderstood too.
Fun fact: arsenic and strychinine were used as stimulants, mostly in the 1700s and 1800s. In small doses. Jack the Ripper was rumored to be a strychnine addict!! As for suicide I do think that it is hard for non suicidal people to understand the mindset, which is why we are so freaked by it.
The difference between weed smoke and cigarette smoke is apples and oranges. People do not get cancer from weed, period. Oh by the way, is that the same Surgeon General that wants us all vaxed?
Not true about cancer, and not even my point.
No and if you had read his book you’d know that
I figured since he seems clueless about it. No, I don't read every book I hear about.
And...there's the rub. He has a book to hawk!
This nonsense has been spewing for years and is used by anti-weed people. When in fact the substance has been used for generations with little problems. As a matter of fact of all the substances humans abuse (and yes weed can be abused) it is the safest of them all. Now compare that to booze.
Let's not lose the fact that big pharma hates weed. It has so many healing properties and this good doc refuses to acknowledge. Let's remember what they are doing with the death shots, pharma is the most evil organization around, they are the real drug pushers of the world. And, they are using this doc and his bias to further their propaganda war on weed. But hey, he has money coming in on book sales, what a great time to push his book every time there is a shooting. And, he does it every time.
Whereas the pro-weed industry doesn’t make a cent from the consumption of marijuana, right?
One makes a product, the other uses peoples bias, kind of like CNN. I'm no weed industry lover. But you can grow your own at little cost, That is what we all did and has been done for generations. Damn man, it's just a god given plant! Even booze needs processed. Weed is just dried flower.
Big tobacco is drooling over marijuana profits.
We'll, weed stocks aren't doing too great. And most weed users hate big tobacco. So who knows what happens. I'll tell you this, the black market is alive and well. States got really greedy with tax rates. Most of my career is an investment banker. As these things go they are real hot to start then tapper off. I think that is where the weed market is now. Just leveling out until national legalization, if that happens. I still grow my own and use it for pain and sleep. There is no better sleep medication.
I suggest you read what others have to say about Cannabis/Marijuana use (here are just a few to get you started):
JAMA Psychiatry
“Association of Substance Use Disorders With Conversion From Schizotypal Disorder to Schizophrenia”
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2678577?
The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine
“The Health Effects of Cannabis and Cannabinoids: The Current State of Evidence and Recommendations for Research”
https://www.nap.edu/read/24625/chapter/1
American Medical Association
“Prevalence and Sociodemographic Correlates of Adolescent Use and Polyuse of Combustible, Vaporized, and Edible Cannabis Products”
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2703946?resultClick=1
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
“Is there a link between marijuana and cancer?“
https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/cancer.html
American Lung Association
“Marijuana and Lung Health”
http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/marijuana-and-lung-health.html
American Cancer Society
“Marijuana and Cancer”
https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/complementary-and-alternative-medicine/marijuana-and-cancer.html
The Pew Charitable Trusts
“Drugged Driving Deaths Spike With Spread of Legal Marijuana, Opioid Abuse”
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/05/31/drugged-driving-deaths-spike-with-spread-of-legal-marijuana-opioid-abuse
Bad Pharma: How Drug Companies Mislead Doctors and Harm Patients
Ben Goldacre-Author
-We like to imagine that medicine is based on evidence and the results of fair testing and clinical trials. In reality, those tests and trials are often profoundly flawed. We like to imagine that doctors who write prescriptions for everything from antidepressants to cancer drugs to heart medication are familiar with the research literature about these drugs, when in reality much of the research is hidden from them by drug companies. We like to imagine that doctors are impartially educated, when in reality much of their education is funded by the pharmaceutical industry. We like to imagine that regulators have some code of ethics and let only effective drugs onto the market, when in reality they approve useless drugs, with data on side effects casually withheld from doctors and patients
ETC......
Yeah, that worked great with vaccines generally and the death jab specifically.
You are citing criminal organizations as if they should be heeded.
Chuck. Would you like me to give you the science links they use to propagate covid death shots? There are thousands telling us they are safe and effective.
Science has been polluted by money and politics. From global warming to weed. All in an effort to manipulate a reality that is far from reality.
There is no science publication that is free from the politics du jour.
Pharma has been warring against weed for decades. The massive list of health benefits ruins the false reality that legal drugs are helpful.
Can massive amount of THC be harmful, sure. just like too much pizza. Or over dosing on opioids.
But this barrage of fake science on a plant that does not need processed, it is just a dried flower, does not cause the issues they are trying to peddle. These distractions showed up right when weed was being legalized. They have big pharmas name written all over them.
It is just pathetic, weed is used to help cancer treatments, but the fear mongers of course us the C word to scare the shit out of folks. The fact is this, weed has been heavily used for decades, centuries really, with little harmful effects and a massive amount of positive outcomes. There is no medical study that can compete with the long history of weed use and the safety as attested by millions of people.
More people died from Fentanyl in the USA last year than in the entire Viet Nam conflict.
As such, this whole screed is obscenity, and the problem is and always has been Psychiatry/AKA Nazism.
Tu quoque then is your rebuttal? Fentanyl is terrible so let's let pot roll?
Right-on!
I'm sure before November we'll see a lot more of these stoned cretins (pushed a notch in the right direction), it's just good politics and a very convincing argument (for libtards) to confiscate guns
Where's the "dislike" button?
You’re too stoned to find it
typical reply from someone with absolutely no knowledge of who I am but has no problem casting aspersions my way(or should I say "ass-persions?)...good job!
You poor thing!
I’m glad you pinned this comment.
Dealing with potheads is a little like dealing with trans rights activists. Just let them talk.
Both groups are libtarded, so you are spot on
Doc, weed is a natural plant. SSRIs are not. When will you wake up to this correlation?
Heroin and cocaine are found also natural plants. Does that make them harmless?
The answer is yes.
As I have stated weed is unprocessed, it is dried flower. The ancients used poppy for centuries to treat many things. Look at the opium wars, the Britt"s thought they knew it all ,just like today. China did fine with opium poppy. Heroin is highly processed from poppy.
Cocaine is processed, heavily, from the coca leaves, again a natural plant. Indigent people used this leaf again for all types of medicinal uses for centuries. The Pope when visiting Chile chewed the leaves to overcome altitude sickness.
In the past cocaine and opium where used for pain, during the civil war how do you think the amputees survived the pain? That's right the two natural substances you just mentioned. Now comes weed, it has never killed anyone! It by far the safest substance that man has used as a medical agent and for recreation.
See, you just illustrated the problem with all you anti-weed people. You really are ignorant about any of these substances and their role in history. Do you realized how many medications we have that are from plants or the certain substances they produce? Do you think our medication come from oil or something? Animal oil yes, again another part of nature.
You guys just repeat lies to one another then spew them to the next guy. It is all bias. Now, do you want to discuss the effects of one of the dirtiest and most death dealing drug man has ever made? That would be booze, oh again it is all processed form plants, what do you know.
Perhaps you should walk out your front door, grab a handful of the first natural plant you find, and swallow it. Enjoy.
You probably had some for dinner dude. Or at least drank your dinner! Oh, again that would be plants, funny how that works.
So you took my suggestion and now you talk like this?
I thunk it went over your head there Hoss. Might want to ponder on the shot for a while longer.
I don't think you are wrong that cannabis happens to be involved in these reoccurring events, but its myopic to assume that cannabis is the reason when there are way too many variables of things that obviously contribute to this kind of psychotic behavior.
You are absolutely correct based on what I've seen within my own family and social circle. Marijuana and severe mental illness are a deadly combination.
How many bots and likes did you pay for Alex? Your book is a farce and so are you. Prohibition is a black market's wet dream.
And as we can clearly see (that obviously exclude you) LEGALIZATION is country's NIGHTMARE
SCREW "LEGALIZATION". REPEAL THE PROHIBITION. We didn't legalize alcohol... WE ENDED THE ASSININE PROHIBITION OF IT. Take your authoritarian ass to some other country.
How about you take your sorry self of human being somewhere else? You probably are in a trans wherever you are anyway.
No, I'm about to go get some $1 jumbo wings at my local pub where I can drink alcohol since the PROHIBITION was REPEALED back in 1933 with dinosaur mentality like your sorry ass.
If you read his book, you would know that Alex endorsed decriminalization (not full legalization) in the Epilogue. I don't know if he still believes in that today, but I think that shows he's hardly a hardcore prohibitionist.
Alex is probably sincere. The world is wide and there is space for everyone.
The Chinese are turning this country into Auschwitz with their fentanyl imports but weed is the real problem because some psycho who killed people smoked it once seven years ago. We all know you’re a stooge for Pfizer.
Yes weed is a real problem. Funny you hate Pfizer but don't hate the peddlers of high THC edibles. Six of one...
I thought potheads were supposed to be mellow and not quite so unhinged?
Yeah I'm not seeing that here.
Idk... have the edibles companies knowingly harmed millions of people resulting in billions of fines and criminal charges?? Gtfoh
The fines are coming, and the criminal charges.
Starting to see "high driving is dangerous" billboards in my state. Whatever could be the reason? 🤔
The data, as well cited in the book Parents Tell Your children convinced me. Empty rejections of fact are just that, empty.
Take a look at all the data covid makers use to push their drugs. His book is not reality., and he does not consider the many variables. For instance, and especially in this latest shooting. This kid had mental problems from early on as just now reported. Long before any weed usage. Many of these kids, as school social workers will tell you, resort to street drugs to try to stop the mental anguish. And that is what weed can do, it can dumb pain, both physical and mental. These kids already have problems and are made worse by pharmas SSRIs, as a matter of fact school shootings started around the time SSRIs were pushed hard by pharma. Look, weed was used heavily in the 1960s and there were no school shootings. This is the stuff the good doc misses in his analyses. The correlations are garbage., And here's another point. These accusation of mental illness caused by weed did not really surface until legalization was up for a vote. Isn't that ironic. We know pharma is scamming us on covid, well they have been at war with weed for decades with the same garbage science. What we really need to look at is the pathetic SSRI handed out like candy to kids, this is the real culprit that is glossed over by the media and politicians, sound familiar? Yeah, it is a similar playbook used for the death shot.
Everyone everywhere is AFRAID to make waves about weird behavior. My daughter was a 6th grade teacher, and there was one particular student who was clearly disturbed. He would with no provocation pick up a chair and throw it at the wall. He deliberately threw a rock on the playground and it hit my daughter on the cheek. The school had an "occasional" school psychiatrist. The parents of his kid were told of his behavior and they took it personally, like you were accusing THEM of being bad parents. No concern for addressing the child's bad behavior and figuring out how to get him some help.
So what was the solution? They sent the kid to another school to get rid of him. He had problems at the next school, so they sent him to yet another school. And so it went. Over the school year he went to virtually every school in the area, and eventually ended back up at my daughter's school. In my opinion there is no readily available help for such children. Either the schools want to pass a child on to get rid of him/her, or the parents refuse to accept the kid has a problem, or perhaps a combination of both.
There is no easy solution to this ongoing problem.
I would be very interested to know where he is today, what sort of life he is leading, if he has been in trouble, etc.
Anybody can find studies that meet their bias. Pharma pays for biased studies. The government pays for biased reporting. Haven't we learned that with Covid? It is wacky to only believe studies that say what you want to believe and then treat them as gospel.
I have a lot of personal experience with hundreds of people. I am not going to believe ANY book that contradicts my personal experience. It's a good guideline for anybody. And if your personal experience is the pot is bad for you, or the people you know, certainly go with your experience. I don't need to dictate what other people should believe. I just want space for myself and my experiences.
Yes, it is called Gell-Mann Amnesia. As one example. It works like this. You read the paper and notice an article about something that you happen to be an expert on. The article is garbage and ignorant, you scream out loud how false the information is and the reporter obviously a dolt.
Then you go on to the next article which you know nothing about the subject and find it very informative and interesting, this story forms in you a bias. But, there is a person who is an expert on that subject and is screaming out how ignorant the story is, the one you just accepted.
You easily forgot how reporters can be dolts and blindly accepted the second story on its face value.
That in a nutshell is the commenters in this forum. many conservative, who have a learned bias from years of demonizing weed by pharma. They have total amnesia about the covid scam and accept the very same scam on weed. It's sad and hilarious.
Emergency room reports are not fallacious studies, believe as you like, but again unsubstantiated dismisdals of facts are not compelling.
Yawn.
These idiots act like they know what they are talking about and I doubt they could identify what weed flower even looks like. They are crushingly stupid on the subject and their credulity is off the charts.
That is bullshit. Here in Colorado we've had so many newbies to weed come through the state since legalization.. You know what they ALL are that end up in the ER? People who used too much, especially eatables, since the effects are not felt for maybe an hour and they over indulge. To a new person the psychotic effects, especially from eatables, can be frightening and they end up in the ER scared to death. They stay for a few hours as the effect wear off. No worse for the wear, This is the problem with all you novice know-it-all's. You are totally ignorant on the subject. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. You have zero experience. It is just sooo pathetic. NO ONE DIES FROM WEED. Tell me that about booze! Don't believe me, talk to a weed state ER doc or nurse, they'll tell you exactly what I just wrote.
Alex, why does the U.S. govt have a patent on the neuroprotective qualities of cannabis showing medical value while still keeping cannabis as a Schedule 1 drug with no medical value? Probably for the same reason you continue this bogus yellow journalism going. Big money doesn't want the repeal of cannabis prohibition. You're a paid for trash journalist. 6630507
Probably the same reason the governmentS all over the world have a 'patent' on opiates, they are dangerous substances that can NOT be prescribed to just anyone and for no medical reason
Nothing wrong with coca or poppy in raw form. Processing it and manufacturing cocaine, crack or heroin should be restricted.
No one has the right to tell someone else what they can do with their body as long as they're not hurting someone else or someone else's property.
"as long as they're not hurting someone else or someone else's property" IS the key, that is not in place right now (but not for long)
Right on again. Now we know why Trump would not legalize weed. This doc was on his staff.
Marijuana is not good for developing brains. Brains are not fully developed until the age of 25.
The correlation isn’t an accident.
Idiot potheads can’t comprehend it but that can be easily explained. Really, it self-explanatory-stoners aren’t that smart after overindulging in their favorite pastime for a while.
Bigots like yourself aren't exactly exuding candlepower.
Pretty certain Kary Mullis could have left you far in the dust in any sort of academic competition.
Your delusion doesn't indicate intelligence. Especially since there is no excuse for such ignorance , as you are clearly not illiterate.
And you can't really offend me by your idiotic comments. Just the fact that I never touched any illegal substance puts me way about your pathetic ass. But that's not why I comment here since your approval or disproval makes no difference to me. I am on Alex's side, and I would like more people to learn about the dangers of cannabis, and other drug use to which cannabis addiction leads to.
im so grateful to be able to see peoples thoughts with vulgarities. you get such watered down bs in favor of one side on twitter. this still make you ok the comment but how else would we know how sanctimonious you are. Do you think professors that have to take pain medicine couldn't run laps around you? do you think professionals that have couple drinks a week are simpletons also? I'm very glad you have shown yourself. Also, fentynal death are almost exclusively caused by the cartels making it over the boarder cheap, pressing it into pill form to look like percocet, the kids think they are taking it and don't know to not do the whole thing. I lost many, my 16 yr old cousin almost a year ago, but all from fake percocet. local gangs near big cities don't care, it never comes back on them. these people weren't stupid and wreckless, they were tricked and killed. No one it seems is doing anything about it. dems care more about making the orange guy look crazy than opiod epidemic and inflation. wtf, all i hear from Dems is stuff i care nothing about. good for ya'll, be happy, do whatever, but if you are going to be in government maybe do something besides turning LA into a open air drug den i can't walk in.
Correlation isn’t causation Duurek. That’s been proven long ago. You too sound like a person with absolutely zero knowledge of cannabis effects or usage. Just a lot of personal bias.
Perhaps. But there is research and data that Alex shares so don't take my word for it. Personally, my 28-year-old son overdosed on fentanyl this year so forgive me if I don't give a fuck about your "personal" biases and opinions. It all started with pot about 14 years ago. He was hiding this shit from me but then he didn't when he became an adult and it escalated. So yes, I hate drugs, drug dealers and ignorant drug use enablers, with a passion.
You want to be a pothead-it's your ass but do not try to push your ignorance on us as some kind of "debate is over" shit. I was getting close to a libertarian approach of legalizing all drugs and making the habit safer to save more kids and adults from overdosing but recent experiment in Oregon shows us that it DOES NOT WORK.
Your kid od'd on Fentanyl, and you want to focus on weed instead?
No, I won't forgive that! It's unforgivable.
That was just a figure of speech. Like I said I don't give a shit about opinions of ignorant potheads who love their fix so much that they can't get their heads out their own asses far enough to see how full of crap they are. The data is there, and this crisis calls for an open debate. It's a non-starer for someone to say that cannabis does not cause psychosis or schizophrenia without any data backing their view except all the lies they have been feeding us for the longest time.
Well, Portugal implemented the same tactic and they have a longer statistical record. Check that out.
Which you of course, most definitely do not have.
I have an ability to see both sides from experience. Not a second hand observation.
I have the same perspective from experience, but have obviously reached a completely different conclusion. Which we are both more than entitled to have.
It is funny how Alex was chiding Jordan Schachtel just last week for not having the full story, and now, apparently, a friend's passing reference to a "stoner" is more than enough evidence that Marijuana caused psychosis in a mass shooter.
God loves you. Don't mess it up with psychotropic drugs.
"Again with the stupid reefer madness nonsense."
...blathers the defensive, stoner-denier apologist endeavoring to justify his addiction. 🙄
Lol. A good comeback from the peanut gallery.
This ain't your mama's reefer anymore. Haven't you figured that out?
Today's cannabis can't even be called "reefer" anymore. It's like calling a Ferrari a Model A.
New cars have better safety features.
Come on man ...... you know what I'm talking about. A 95% THC dab is in no way comparable to smoking a 20% joint. These kids smoke these dabs all damn day.
I wonder if telling adolescent white males they're bad people for 40 years - they're the root of all problems, guilty of toxic masculinity, racism, and other evil, forcing medications on them to control normal male behaviors, driving them to seek refuge in video games and weed, locking them indoors from "Covid" ----- has had anything to do with 18-22 year old males suddenly exploding into incredible violence.
Seemed somewhat predictable there would be a price to pay for flogging young males for so many decades.
Testosterone is a very powerful hormone, It was, from creation, intended to charge young males of our society with an agressive/protective behavior. When correctly channeled we see great leaders and defenders. TLC squelches all that. But our culture has been fragmented into group think and tribalism. Drugs like marajauna are only one facet, one of many arrows, shot through the heart of our society. Our educators teach it, politicians promote it, and media celebrates it. Nikita Khrushchev on November 18, 1956 told world ambassabors "We will bury you". You don't see communist China's army getting high or transgendering. You don't hear their generals spouting critical race theory. FOCUS AMERICA, understand what this woke culture truly is.
It has nothing to do with testosterone. legalizing drugs has consequences!
It has everything to do with drugs, why do you think testosterone levels are dropping in young men. All these drugs need to be banned.
I thought you're blaming killings on the hormone
Tell that to pharma. They’ve seem to have paid out quite a bit of money over their deadly, addictive and improperly tested consumer products.
Pharma is not to be blamed, it's the POLITICIANS that do whatever they are paid for (by pharma). Pharma didn't legalized drugs, POLITICIANS did (more specifically LIBTARDED politicians)
Did you mean, "THC squelches all that?"
It's not just White Males....Young men and women are being beaten into submission to use drugs that enhance depression psychosis on a daily basis. It's Society that's broken. Blaming objects such as guns or drugs , banning of both, will not solve the problem. This is a direct tactic of Marxist policies of divide and conquer driven by the left for decades. Read the Rules for Radicals list of goals...It's being played out as we debate weed and guns.
Absolutely on point
I’m from South America and boys this age are just thinking about hanging out with friends,go out dancing and having sex all the time .Unfortunately there’s not much in this society for white straight males and if they like women and show it it’s wrong .
All that energy is going in the wrong direction
Yeah, eventually South Americans will wake up to the fraud of the DNC and vote RIGHT
spent a lot of time in brazil and s america, some very pro american places that are doing very well and they don't go for the crazy left wing stuff too. had a few far lefty friends that believed all the cia conspiracies and that really popular i think but theres a reason Bolsonaro is the president right now in brazil. Honestly, most europeans are looking at the woke plague in america and this might be a shocker but don't think it's genuine. almost like the DNC is making up more Russia Collusion like the make believe epidemic of white supremacy which is to blame for just about everything
Boom. How can a boy or man stay resilient against that decades-long barrage of often subtle but continual abuse? Raising sons awakens parents to this problem, sometimes. Girls are beaten down too, but in different ways.
Agreed. And the culprits? Who owns the media and central banking? Created Communism and Feminism? Is behind both mass migration in to white nations, starts the wars which precipitate such events, manufactures opioids and is the CEO/Chief Scientist at every Convid/jab hawking company? Who killed Jesus and his brother James, and has carried a grudge since 72AD against Europeans?
You are literally a nazi. What else needs to be said?
Refute the points above, attacking the messenger and calling him names will not make reality disappear. You either have been horribly misled your entire life, or you work for the people who do the misleading. Most expelled people in human history, they are good, at the evils they commit.
Nazi
In the 1920's, Germany was suffering hyperinflation, Berlin had fallen to the Bolsheviks next door, poverty and starvation were rampant. Non-German immigrants were flooding in, and the people and culture were in despair. The Treaty of Versailles imposed draconian fines on Germany, and also separated native German regions and populations, where those people were being murdered by Leftists. In to this chaos, in to the near complete destruction of one of Europe's greatest nations, came an idea. A group of men, led by an Iron Cross WW I hero (who went back in to battle over and over, despite being injured) gave Germany the strongest world economy in the 1930's. This man identified the bankers and degenerates in his nation, and he isolated and denatured them. He warned us of the evils now destroying the USA/UK/OZ/NZ/Canada. The commie winners of WW II vilify him, neglecting any mention of Stalin, Lenin and Mao. All you need to know. Hail Victory.
I've read my copy of "Mein Kampf". Herr Schicklgruber, your hero.
I don't need to read it again.
Might need another read. \o
At last—someone who sees the big picture. Toxic societal attacks on young white males by feminist ideologues; Racist psychobabble fracturing and Balkanizing our society; and constant flagellation by varied fluid identity-crises of numerous self-defined victim classes: ALL dumping on young white males has a very real price. We’re seeing it paid in spades right now. Chickens are not what’s coming home to roost—it’s more like Ostriches with their bad attitude tuned up to homicidal.
Get rid of all illegals and there might've been a regular job that shooter bum could've kept busy with. His father owns two businesses, fast food joints, and the kid is not employed there? Sounds like a derelict family, they have kids and don't take care of them.
Well said. Tolerance, has killed our Nation. It is time to divorce The Left, and anyone/anything that supports or worships it. Nature, HATES weakness. So, should we.
Interesting, interesting thought…..’Nature, HATES weakness. So, should we.’ So simple and so accurate. Thanks.
I do not say it to preclude righteous compassion. However, when groups of people make the same errors of omission or commission for 1000's of years, they deserve derision and exclusion. We keep falling for the same "victim-hood" scams. Especially the formerly white and Christian nations, which are currently practicing pathological altruism. At some point, we need to name the true enemy, admit we were tricked, and respond in a very measured, and dispassionate way. War, is coming.
Your comments are well thought out. Your first sentence set the tone and thanks for that. The rest of your thoughts caught me off guard and scared me; probably because I agreed with them.
Survival, for all species and sub-species, often includes doing things not necessarily congruent with pleasant society. HOWEVER, not protecting yourself, and admitting when a cunning enemy has been slowly destroying all you hold dear, is your fault, not theirs. When confronting evil, we MUST temporarily hold our noses, and smash their Noses. Which, are rather prodigious. Be strong, align with decent, strong people who look like, and think like you. Nature gave you that reflex for a reason as well.
Also this:
37 School Shooters/School Related Violence Committed By Those Under The Influence Of Psychiatric Drugs
https://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/
The PHARMA companies skate every time just as they do with the EUA gene therapy med injections
We can thank congress for that.
Absolutely. It's one big BED
Thank God it’s finally getting across that today's marijuana is far from harmless for some people.
...and whiskey is stronger than beer, what's your point? That's why whiskey doesn't come in a 16 oz can with a pop top. Todays alcohol is far from harmless for some people. It's literally poison, but it's legal as it should be.
My mother and maternal grandfather both died from over use of alcohol.
I don't know anyone who has died from cannabis.
Pharmaceutical industrial complex is the problem in our country. The name Rockefeller ring any bells?
There is no money to be made on cures. Big buck potential in treatments, especially for experimental mental illness drugs.
Love, hugs and PERSEVERE yall!
There are some genetics with whom cannabis does not play well. I'm one. Tried it for the first time in my 50's, due to searching for relief from RLS. Went to the time and trouble ($$) of getting a legal card. Had an awful reaction to different strains - pounding heart, extreme anxiety - basically the opposite of what I was searching for. Later found out that my sibling has the same reaction. Did some reading which is where I stumbled across the genetic connection. My point is that, despite what the cannabis industry tells you, cannabis is definitely bad news for some people. It's become so popular and in vogue to believe that it's 'natural' and thus safe. It's not necessarily. I lean libertarian so if consenting adults want to use cannabis, that's their choice for the most part (don't condone when people drive stoned, though, just like I don't condone people drunk driving). But I do think there needs to be more awareness that it's not safe or beneficial for all. And I worry about its effect on the growing brains of teenagers.
There is no one size fits all for any substance.
We are bioindividual. That is one of the premises of Functional Medicine.
You simply cannot treat everyone as if we are all the same. The blanket approach does not work and is dangerous!
And you don’t worry about the massive amounts of alcohol our teens everywhere are consuming? Alcohol has a much more profound effect on people then Cannabis imo, yet it’s still legal. Alcohol sits at #1 on the list of drugs that effect every single cell in your body. Alcohol IS even more destructive to your body then heroin, Cocaine. Meth ect…. Fact. It impairs your brain, your emotions, your ability to walk, drive, parent and the list goes on. Now, when you combine the 2 you have just doubled the effect of the cannabis & alcohol. You all talk about personality changes & cannabis. Well, have you ever noticed how just about everyone who drinks more then 2-3 drinks, acts differently? The introvert is suddenly an extrovert. My Sister turns into Dr. Jekyl when she drinks. Many become jerks when they drink. I’m 67 years old and have been indulging in Cannabis for 50 years on and off. Absolutely NO psychosis. Alcohol on the other hand took over my life, not cannabis. Look at the damage alcohol has played in our Society!! It was even considered a essential business during Covid!! Yes certain people will have negative results, as with any medication, then don’t take it, change it. But grouping all cannabis users into one group is ridiculous. I can tell for a fact that when I was diagnosed with MS in 1991, over 30 years ago, I refused all Big Pharma and resorted to medical Cannabis. I’ve been in remission since I started. I don’t know anyone with a diagnosis of Multiple Sclerosis who hasn’t done a slow slide into bad health. They’re on drugs they will never be able to get off of. The side effect alone are enough to make you want to kill yourself for some. I’m a walking talking billboard for Medical. Just like I chose not to take the jab. It’s not for everyone. I did get Covid and recovered remarkably well compared with my jabbed friends. I will continue to use because it’s working. Alex, you need to cease and desist on this subject line. Or at least give it kudo’s for those who it has helped. I am one of those. I have 4 successful children , my parenting skills are excellent as my children will tell you, I have held down many jobs, I don’t drive on it, people who drink do all the time and literally kill people with their weapon. Alcohol fuels domestic abuse, child abuse, violent crime, put many in the hospital because they can’t handle their beers or whiskey. Has made ALL our insurance rates triple and also fueled a multi-billion a year factory of rehab inhabitants looking to free themselves of this scourge called “Alcoholism !”
Elliott, have you read about Dr. Terry Wahls? She reversed her MS. She is well known in the functional, integrative and holistic medicine circles.
Funny, I was thinking I get more out of the info in these threads from good folks like you then I do with the actual author of these blogs.
Thank you. I am not a favorite with Alex's community of readers, and that's OK! ;)
No I have not, but I will look her up. Thank you
My pleasure. Her story is inspiring! I'm so glad you have gotten relief. Health is Wealth!
Thank you for posting this. Many of his readers think alcohol is not a problem. Such BS!
Thank you Myriam!! Well, just like Alex said “ the powers that be, have everyone convinced that Alcohol is ok, NOT! It’s one of the most destructive substances there is
I take half of a small square of chocolate with THC for sleep and many of his readers of accuse me of being a user.
I don’t drink alcohol (it repulses me) and I don’t take any prescription drugs. I’m a holistic practitioner.
That alcohol is a problem does not maken an excuse for drugs. The real problem is the increasingly common inability to make distinctions.
I’m not making excuses, I have no need to do that. I know what works for me and that’s all that matters. You gonna tell me my remission of 30 years is not because of cannabis? It’s certainly not from Big Pharma! In fact other recipients of this disease I’ve talked to wish they had never taken the drugs prescribed for them. Now they can never get off. If they do their condition will exacerbate, then a new drug and another and another and another.
Agreed.
But cannabis has medicinal properties.
To my knowledge, alcohol does not, unless you are using it to clean a wound in an emergency.
I have seen the detrimental effects of alcohol in friends and family.
My two sisters and I do not drink. We've never had drinking problems, it is just not what we grew up with and we're extremely health conscious.
"I don’t know anyone with a diagnosis of Multiple Sclerosis who hasn’t done a slow slide into bad health."
Yeah, like this dude! MS plus schizophrenia - bad combo!
https://hightimes.com/weirdos/on-being-lit-a-personal-essay-on-mental-illness-and-compassion/
Really sad what people go through sometimes. :(
People can drink and not become intoxicated. The liver can metabolize alcohol very quickly compared to the drugs you list. Alcohol has a long history and is socially endemic. Drugs are not. There is no good reason to make them so.
Really??? Why do people drink then? It’s expensive!! Why would you pay 8.00 for a glass of vodka if you aren’t getting some benefit? In case you didn’t know, everything you put in your mouth or body goes through the liver, next argument.
:) The liver is the biggest internal organ of detoxification. Love your liver!!
Again then why drink? Why not a Soda, water, coffee to be social? Because it relaxes people, takes the edge off as they say. I see your somewhat defending Alcohol. That’s ok. I’m defending Medical Cannabis, because it works medicinally for me, nothing else. Cannot say that about Big Pharma.
Not Alcohol. In fact Alcohol makes many ailments worse. Fact. Socially acceptable or not. Have you ever seen anyone detox from Alcohol?? If it’s so safe and socially acceptable, why do people need to detox from it? Alcohol is not benign.
Elliot I'm thrilled that cannabis worked for your MS; was hoping for a similar result with RLS which was driving me crazy. Many people in the RLS community use cannabis for relief which is why I checked into it myself. I genuinely didn't realize how bad medical cannabis would be for me personally (and didn't know my sibling's experience until I mentioned my own). Agree with your concerns about alcohol and its effect on teens and adults. That being said I can drink once a week and have a nice time and experience no issues. A small bit of cannabis can set me on edge for a couple days. We are aware of the dangers of alcohol but many people are not aware of the dangers of cannabis, or they believe cannabis to be benign. That's my only point. Again, am very happy that it helps control your MS - a blessing for sure.
AM thank you for not demonizing me. Lol I also know many who do not have good effects from cannabis. Like any drug. But here’s another little issue with relying on Big Pharma, nothing they use is natural. In fact you can’t pronounce 1/2 the ingredients in them. Then there’s those 100’s of pesky side effects. Another is if you smoke cannabis, the effect is short lived, in other words you don’t have to wait hours or days to get back to normal feeling. Some cannot smoke it though. Like me. Emphysema. So I have used my own experience as my guide as to what helps me feel better. Just as everyone else drinks, does their Zoloft, BP meds, Ed Meds, cholesterol meds, I do my MS meds
Think we are in accord on many things ha ha! That's so great that your MS is controlled this way. Totally agree on the pharma industry.
Tiny, tiny anecdote. My stepfather had terminal prostate cancer. He had the pain tolerance of a granite boulder, generally refused any pain meds. But, it was getting to him.
My mother decided to try cannabis. Knew he wouldn't touch it, so she made a soup. He wasn't fond of soup, so she knew she would have to eat it as well. So, they had pot soup for lunch. He had no effects, whatsoever, she slept all afternoon.
End of experiment.
If you were to OD on Cannabis you won’t die. Might get sick to your stomach. Alcohol on the other hand WILL kill you if you OD. And that’s a fact Jack. Plus, you might kill someone else as well.
I am not making a case I am just curious -- while individual homicides are often alcohol related how many of the mass killings are, compared to the combination of weed and SSRI of late?
SSRIs are a problem without weed. By ignoring the obvious SSRI connection Alex is doing a great disservice to the public and providing cover for the pharmaceutical industry, whether intentionally or not.
An SSRI deep dive expose is definitely needed...after all ,these drugs come with a BLACK BOX warning regarding suicide and violence in the under 25 yo group.
Just to prove a point, how many violent arrests were people taking something as simple as a smoking cessation drug called Chantix? Also black box warnings. One never knows, that’s the thing. How many times have you gone to the doctor, got more meds and the Doctor NEVer looks at all the others your taking. And if you think doctors know all the Contraindications your sadly mistaken
Are you assuming that SSRIs were involved in the current incident? It seems more logical that SSRIs would get involved only after recreational Marijuana has done its damage. I'm speaking anecdotally as a former psych nurse for adolescents.
It's an open question, isn't it? I try not to assume. But I read (and I'll look for a link to share) that something like 90% of mass shooters are on long term SSRIs. We need to at least ask the question and do the research to know, don't you think?
I believe the point is, Western Society has a history of alcohol use for thousands of years. We pretty much know the negatives and positives of widespread usage. The same cannot be said of marijuana. At this point I am in favor of legalization but we should be a little more circumspect about the possible benefits of this drug and realize that widespread usage may create new problems we are, as of this early date, unaware of currently.
I’m not sure how old you are but Cannabis has been around as long if not longer then Alcohol. No it’s not for everyone, but what Alex is saying is highly suspect. Because I know from experience. I have lived through the 70’s “Wat on Drugs” and lived in the 50’s-60’s. It’s always been there whether underground or legal. The powers just chose to vilify Cannabis instead. Oh!!! But now they want to get in on the action to the tune of billions, millions for each state that goes legal. Not only that but they’re discriminating agaist medical card holders. I just paid 260.00 for my Card. Do you all have to do that to get your BP meds? Are your BP meds covered under insurance? Well my med is not. It’s good for thee, but not for me?
I'm 62 and a half. I should have said we have had a widespread history of alcohol use. Marijuana may have been "around" for that period of time but not under widespread use.
As for your blood pressure, have you considered walking, time restricted eating, deep breathing exercises, eliminating sugar from your diet and meditation? These will work far better than cannabis. And they're free and the side effect is more energy and overall health. How do I know? 12 years ago my BP was 150 / 85 .. this Morning it was 114/63 with a resting heart rate of 47.
I myself do not have a BP problem. I didn’t make that clear. That was just an example. I’m 67 yrs I take no Pharmaceuticals. Supplements, that’s it. I excerise regularly ( walk a lot ( dogs) , don’t drink and I use my Higher Power as my guide. All said, I’m doing damn good for my age. Gratitude.
Sorry I thought. you said, "Do you all have to do that to get your BP meds? Are your BP meds covered under insurance? Well my med is not. It’s good for thee, but not for me?
Saying "Well my med is not." implies you are paying for BP meds. So in the future if you care to argue points with people, do them the courtesy of not MAKING SHIT UP. Thank you.
Thats completely untrue Marijuana has been in widespread use for thousands of years. The earliest records date back almost 5000 years and for millenia people in India, the Middle East and China have documented it’s widespread use in those societies.
That's why I noted that we in the West and particularly in America have had virtually no history with widespread marijuana use. And next time you says something is "documented", provide me a link. There is certainly no "widespread" marijuana use in India, the Middle East or China today. My quick duck duck go search indicated cannabis is illegal in India, China and Egypt. Wonder why they ALL gave this miracle drug up?
Not sure about the container analogy - whisky comes in tiny concealable bottles, flask like bottles, quarts and half-gallons all with screw on tops. And you can buy all manner of mixes in pop-top cans.
Point being the user can determine the "dose"...and resealable containers imply the intent is not to consume the entire bottle in one swallow. People know there's a difference between beer and hard liquor which is why they don't drink the same quantity of hard liquor as they do beer. Seems pretty simple. More potent cannabis means less smoke entering the lungs...good for the consumer. I think we can all agree less smoke in the lungs is a good thing.
When have you ever known a teenager to self-regulate re. alcohol or drugs?
operative word "today's"
Every. Single. Time. And the media and politicians continue to ignore the obvious. As expected, of course.
Alex..while I am sick to death of this weed culture and teaching kids it’s totally benign and actually beneficial for anxiety/depression, you are missing a huge piece of the puzzle. Vaccines are causing mental illness. Seven years ago researchers from university of VA discovered lymphatic vessels directly linking the immune system to the brain. We know these ingredients are reaching the brain causing everything from Alzheimer’s and yes autism to mental illness. First line of defense are SSRis or antipsychotics mixed with benzos. These meds can tip a mentally unstable person into suicidal or homicidal ideation. So while your concerns about cannibas are valid I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Not to mention whether these individuals suffer from severe alienation. Also, our food is so contaminated and there have been studies done in Japan on “soy rage” — specifically how the amount of soy in our food is having severe affects on our young men. It’s not just weed. It’s all his environmental factors—including how society portrays white cis men as evil. No one is looking at all factors. We’re failing as a society.
For sure. We are living in a toxic soup. I would bet my life the two biggest assaults to the brain, especially for young people, are vaccines and psych meds. These kids now receive 72 doses by the time they’re 18. Add these mRNA boosters to the mix and my god, we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. We are destroying an entire generation.
Don't forget TV, Hollywood action and violent/horror movies and violent video games - aka social engineering!
These have greatly influenced our youth, on purpose. I started noticing this 20 years ago while raising my daughters. When I would point it out (no video games in my home) to my children, they would tell me I was hypersensitive.
I encourage everyone to listen to Megyn Kelly’s latest interview with Gavin de Becker. Gavin wrote the book Gift of Fear (excellent!). Gavin stated in the interview that the #1 pre-incident indicator for mass violence is misery and alienation. Why has the number of mass shootings increased? What is our misery index? Dark humor is always a precursor. We are in enormous trouble because of mass formation, alienation and division. What’s the common thread of all these mass shootings? It’s a combination of things and not just weed. https://youtu.be/Qhd-W4SPgI4
Vaccines are causing a multitude of illnesses and have been for decades.
Totally agree. We are sadly guinea pigs and victims of Pig Pharma and will continue to be so because they’re in bed with our corrupt government. They (Pig Pharma, CDC, FDA, Govt.) are using us and abusing us with impunity. And we’re being force fed this garbage or our lives suffer hardship. My hope is people are waking up and seeing what they’re doing to our society. My hope is more people are pushing back like hell. These corrupt organizations have one goal — to divide us, to control us so we’re complicit to their evilness.
Guinea pigs since birth!
What an insane world we live in.
I am ready for the next world to emerge once the deception and corruption are put on display for all the world to see!
And if they kill us all off, I am ready for the afterlife too.
Thank you~~I just stated the same above. It's their first go-round with Big Pharma and it can get them hooked for life. I was born in 1960 and the number of vaccines we were given as children pales in comparison to what they are given now. It's absolutely mind-boggling how many products they are injected with at an early age. How in heaven's name could that not have an effect on their brains and bodies?
I was born in ‘59 and I think I got three. My siblings and I all had chickenpox, mumps, measles, rubella. Now children get 72 vaccines and we wonder why we have the sickest population of a developed nation? All by design.
That's right, and it's known since longtime.
You can watch the documentary "Autism: made in the USA" to have a bit of context of the problem, and it's not a new documentary.
I've been told that "vaxxed" too is quire relevant, but I did't see it yet.
I have studied and researched childhood vaccines for 30 years, starting when I had my 2nd daughter and watched her become ill and have an extreme personality change after her vaccines in infancy. She had chronic ear and upper respiratory infections after the shots. She is not autistic but has ADHD. My former husband had her medicated with Ritalin, Vivance and a cocktail of other dangerous meds against my will starting at age 14. I worry about her brain health from those meds.
I never gave her or her older sister any more vaccines, did not vaccinate my two youngest daughters who were born at home.
Vaxxed is excellent as is NVIC.org
I personally know 6 families in Miami, whose children became Autistic after a triple vaccine. No one makes the connection because their pediatrician tells them they are "safe and effective" and will deny they create any problems. Vaccines are their bread and butter!
Your analysis on Covid has been heroic but I have suspected that the overuse of THC vehicles can indeed produce mental imbalance. I’ve seen the results in people I have known. Too much of any drug is toxic. And like alcohol it reacts in different people in different ways.
I've never used drugs of any sort, I love my real life too much. Never gambled, instead I invested in myself. Never smoked cigarettes, I value being an athlete, and love my health. Never have had any degeneracy, got married, and remained faithful. Took on increasing responsibility with various roles in my career, after wife and I paid our own way through my graduate schools. She has been a stay at home Mom through the late 1990's up to the early 2010's. No complaints from either of us. We also never bought in to any Leftist media, agendas, or anything the large nose crowd uses to denature our men and women, and by proxy, the family. They are a filthy, degenerate people, with enormous levels of psychopathy, homosexuality, transsexualism, pedophilia, and a propensity to cheat their own grandmothers. Hail Victory.
You are a literal nazi and probably live in your moms basement. stop LARPing you absolute loser degenerate
Have built a number of very successful businesses, my Mom died long ago, leaving me generational wealth, which I will pass on to my children. As for degeneracy, Tel Aviv is the gayest city on Earth, and all of my reproductive actions have been with my wife, who is one of two genders, which for millennia, has been called female.
That exchange is "evidence"? So mass murder is the behavior of the"typical stoner". I think Alex is distracting from the fact that almost all shooters are on psych meds, SSRI'S in particular, whether or not there is "evidence" of cannabis use.
I would also like to know the prescriptions that he was taking. Maybe these with pot are a toxic cocktail. Not everyone will react this way but enough that we should be concerned.
Most shooters were on some type of psych drug. I’m sure this guy was too. My daughter had a breakdown at 17. She was immediately put on Wellbutrin and Zoloft. The Zoloft was awful. She begged to be taken off, but turns out do c said it will take 6 weeks to taper down. It was a really difficult 6 weeks. From there it was 8 years of docs trying and adding meds. She got put in benzos and those took her 9 months to get off slowly once I convinced her she would never get her life back until she got off all the meds. One thing we learned was some people genetically can’t handle certain meds. One doc had her do genetic testing and it tuned out SSRIs like Zoloft were contraindicated for her based on her genes. The doc said no wonder you felt so awful on it. Anyway 8 years later she is off all drugs and is a different person. The drugs made her upset, stressed, and angry. After everything I witnessed I’m convinced they contribute to great amounts of violence and disability. When my daughter was on them she couldn’t go to school or work. She couldn’t even read. Now she is top of her class at college and writes for a local paper.
So glad she survived it! My youngest daughter also had a breakdown when she was 17. They tried to put her on Lamictal. I almost caved in, because we get desperate to help, but recalled a book I’d read years earlier by Dr Peter Breggin called “Reclaiming our Children”. I started doing some serious research and also discovered Robert Whittaker’s book “Anatomy of an Epidemic” After reading that very well researched book, I told the therapist and psychiatrist that she absolutely would not take any of those drugs.
So glad to hear your good news! My daughter the same, since 16 years of age with anorexia & self harming. Now in early 20s and every time she sees a new shrink they up the dose - her brain is fried. She now has seizures, fits and massive mood swings. It's legalised POISON!!! Breaks my heart, but she won't listen to me...
Same here. There was lots of self harm and eating disorder. Do t give up on her! I know it is so hard. Read mad in America. Their website had resources to help wean off drugs. Also Peter Breggin. Just share information and don’t push. It took a few years and one day my daughter just said she was ready and believed she would be better if she got off everything. It took her 9 months. Take good care of yourself so that you can be there for her! Also take a Family Connections DBT class for parents.
I follow both. I’ve read one of Breggin books and Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker. Eye opening for sure
I’m sorry. It’s so hard. I know the Dr.s had my daughter believing that the only way to feel better was to take the drugs they wanted to prescribe. She asked me what other choice did she have? Well cognitive behavioral therapy for one. I hope I can keep her away from it because you’re right. It is poison.
You’re pushing a rock up a steep hill. Cannabis Psychosis is not a primary Dx—it’s an aggravating symptom of concomitant SSRI/NSRI use. THOSE are the neuron-warpers. These sick puppies on psychotropics also co-medicate with ETOH as well as Cannabis, but the underlying condition isn’t etiologically grounded in Cannabis use. The psychotropic effects of Cannabis might exacerbate underlying mind-junk, but it’s Psychiatric science-project prescription-madness that initiates the psychotic breaks.
He was a psychopath and he happened to smoke cannabis... Must be the cannabis.
At this point Alex is just throwing shit at the walls and seeing what sticks.
How do you know this? It is possible that cannabis induced a psychosis.
Cannabis (to a much lesser extent than hallucinogens like LSD) can induce schizophrenia that you were already predisposed to and that would surface eventually. But it’s not some intense drug that causes insanity. People who think it does really have no idea how extensively it’s actually used on a daily basis by most people, and it’s usually because they’re nerds that don’t get invited to parties or have people truly open up to them.
Yes. It is a real effect and denying it does nothing to serve the cause of good policy. Just like with alcohol there are perceived benefits and real risks, and just like with mRNA shots, the government doesn't have any business telling us what we can, can't, or shall use in our bodies.
And its also possible he was just always going to be crazy.
It's possible, but Farmer's comment was definitive, as though he KNOWS what happened, when nobody can say for sure at this point, either way.
Though I am not really too impressed with the argument that such craziness would have emerged either way. Seems like so much hand-waving to me.
I had a friend in college who smoked a lot of pot and became manic. As far as I know, he never had that issue beforehand. I smoked some myself and found that after some period of time, I experienced paranoia. I stopped smoking and never experienced this again.
Dave I watched a friend partake at a party in college and he went off the rails and was never the same again. I've also watched 100's of others use with no long term ill effects. Also, Manic episodes tend to manifest in college age people. The data is there but its hard to tease out. Still not a justification for prohibition.
I have never been an advocate for prohibition. I am a libertarian. Though I am not so sure when it comes to minors.
We protect our children from all manner of things; this should be no different.
Alcohol is far more effective at inducing uncontrollable and aggressive behaviour. Also, you seem to completely lack any understanding of how psychosis works. The police already have concluded that this was a shooting planned weeks in advance, Cannabis induced psychosis only occurs during periods of heavy use, which means youd be so high during your psychotic episode theres no way you could carry out a shooting. Furthermore, In the few instances cannabis does cause psychosis, it is acute, meaning it ends after the drug leaves the body. How on earth is acute marijuana psychosis supposed to cause this guy to plan a shooting for weeks in advance?
Some possibly related articles by A Midwestern Doctor (The Forgotten Side of Medicine) on the topic of SSRIs / anti-depressants / violence:
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/the-evidence-for-antidepressants
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/how-the-fda-buried-the-dangers-of
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/who-remembers-freedom-fries
Most of these mass shooters come from good families. The problem is all this social media exposure and influence. Think about all these videos showing violence and glamorizing it that rappers /singers make and stream online. When will the government realize this and censor all these violent videos/video games/photos etc...that appear online???
All by design. The government does not care!
Looks like the attacks on Alex's cannibas position is coming from people who enjoy using it. They disparage his character by attacking him rather than coming out with the evidence that there is no such thing as cannibas induced psychosis and violence. Mixing drugs like cannibas and ETOH together with the violent culture of video games can produce illness. There is no doubt about it. Add in legally prescribed drugs that are being used to "normalize" rather than treat underlying disease is an American Medical thing. the U.S. is so far ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to asking for and receiving drugs as a cure-all for everything. Doctors succumbed to patients more than 20 years ago when prescription drug marketing became a reality. And the Pharma companies love it!
Their arguments fall mainly into the tu quoque bin: alcohol is bad so.., SSRIs kill so ...
Yeah so let's throw psychotic shitweed on the pyre.
But Alex there is a bale of money to be had for the politicians in the legalization of cannabis, a few bad seeds here and there shouldn't be of any concern. Although actually fertilizing these bad seeds opens the door(s) to those who desire impleminting their "Liberal World Order" now doesn't it ?
Why don't we make people who want to buy firearms pass a drug test? Can they test for SSRI's?
Yes, in the Philippines you must pass a drug test to get even a driver's license, also a gun license.
You also go to jail in the Philippines if you are not repeatedly jabbed for convid, I have a very sick friend there in Davao City, she was forced to jab or starve and go to jail.
They have been pretty draconian in Philippines with regard to COVID, which is one reason I left in early 2020. Going back this August as things have loosened up a bit.
Sad, but true.
Almost every young adult that my college-aged children know is taking anti-anxiety meds, anti-depressants and/or meds for ADD/ADHD. There’s also an incredible amount of dysfunction in this age group and it has been obvious to me since my kids were in elementary school. My husband and I have many hundreds of times pondered the question, “What is it that has affected this generation like this?” I always come back to some sort of chemical exposure. Something in utero? ADD/ADHD meds (I understand these may be necessary for some but they seem to be wildly and widely overprescribed, especially to boys)? The SSRIs that the doc’s start pushing around puberty, especially to girls? Unsocial media has no doubt contributed to a widespread feeling of unhappiness in this age cohort and it has also created some supremely nasty people as this group seems to derive some pleasure from tearing people down. Drug use (illegal, pot, inappropriate use of prescription meds) contributes to the whole mess. I am but one mother who has observed this generation up close for 21 years and what I see is alarming. Parents don’t parent. Doctors push meds that aren’t needed. The schools don’t educate properly. Unsocial media and the MSM normalize antisocial and deviant behaviors. Public figures actively advocate for pot for everyone (see, e.g., John Fetterman). I can see where the problems are. I can even see, to some extent, ways to right the ship but I feel like I am a mostly lone voice screaming into the void.
You are not alone. I’ve watched it for 23 years as well and have just been shocked at how many of the kids, now young adults, have been taking meds since elementary school. I, be tried to warn some of my friends about putting their sons on ADD meds but what do I know? They listen to their doctors. So I also scream into the void. The teachers want boys to behave like girls, and if they don’t, they are ADD or ADHD and drugged. They all get phones at 9 or 10 years old exposing them to all kinds of social contagions, especially girls. Parents better wake up.
50 million cannabis users and a handful shoot up places....Evil Cannabis!!!!
Never mind whatever cocktail of pharmaceuticals he might have been on.....crickets
With all due respect, correlation does not equal causation. Research 101. Let’s wait and see, shall we, what other psychotropic medications he was on + mental health history? I am not saying that cannabis is not contributing here, but to say it is “the cause” is ridiculous. Do better.
Three comments: 1) Correlation is not causation, 2) Your reasoning sounds a lot like "Reefer Madness 2022", 3) If you want to make a point about cannabis the point should be that cannabis smoked is not a good idea and cannabis smoked chronically is as healthy as alcoholism (though the mechanisms and impacts are very different) and probably indicative of an underlying psychological and/or physiological disorder.
The human body comes with a widely distributed cannabinoid receptor system and it's now recognized as an important part of of the functioning of our immune systems. Railing against "cannabis" without including these important distinctions (i.e. "smoking it is bad for you" "chronic smoking is part of a constellation of symptoms of a mental health disorder") is inaccurate, anti-scientific, and credibility destroying.
Additionally, if I were managing a strategic PR campaign on behalf of Pharma to undermine a major competitor to many multi-billion dollar drug products, you'd be my best buddy. I'm sure this is not your intention. Tighten it up. You could do a lot of good in this arena and being rabidly anti-cannabis it not the path.
Yes, because weed made him do it... just like video games and rap music.
Alex, likes to poke at weed smokers.
Somewhere along the line a pot smoker hurt Alex's feelings.
Somewhere along the line Alex read up on the data linking cannabis to mental illness and wrote a book about it. Cannabis fanatics have hated him ever since.
People hate posts like this because they show how Alex is completely unable to grasp the basics of scientific rigor.
That's funny, because the initial comment criticizing Alex is pretty much the definition of ad hominem. If Alex is wrong, bring the data.
Bring data against what? He basically just points out weed use whenever someone commits a crime without any sort of evidence that the weed use is linked to the crime. You can't prove a negative.
Bring data against the data in his book. He points out cannabis use and criminality because it's real world examples of what he was talking about in his book. The book has plenty of evidence that cannabis is strongly linked to mental illness and violent crime. Read it.
I'm not going to read a book from a journalist to respond to a comment. The fact is he is trying to link this particular mass shooting to weed. There's more evidence that it was due to the guy being a anarcho-socialist than there is to weed here. It would be equivalent to saying Feynman won a Nobel prize because he dropped some acid now and then
Part of the problem with taking anything Berenson says seriously on the subject is he might cite some studies but he doesn't read studies critically
One difference from other mass shooters is that he seems to have a father in his life. Other than that, he seems to share a similar background with all the others.
"Anatomy of an Epidemic" by Robert Whitaker is a well-researched deep-dive into the failure of SSRI's (and other psychiatric medications). Once you read it, you can't understand why these medications are still prescribed. Then you remember that the pharmaceutical cartel is the biggest lobby in the nation...And I think Alex is absolutely on target about marijuana.
My son has been on SSRIs for years now, just found out he's vaping marijuana as well. In 7th grade he had debilitating OCD. We did the SSRIs out of desperation. We tried tapering a few times, things got worse. Looking back I wish we went another way. I see photos of him prior to grade 7 and his eyes looked vibrant and alive. He also got convinced he's trans. It's really been too much. I feel society failed him and I didn't know how to properly combat the influences coming at him.
Maybe we should roll the investigation back further in time and ask why so many kids have so many psych issues today for which they get medicated? Why are so many young teens being diagnosed with ... as I’ve seen just scanning this thread ... OCD, ADHD, “breakdowns,” self-harm, transgenderism, etc. etc.? Is anyone interested in investigating the root causes of this level of dysfunctional self-absorption in younger people, or nah?
Definitely! However I still don’t know the source of my daughter’s breakdown. If she had some sort of trauma,she hasn’t admitted it. The therapist wouldn’t tell us anything. She grew up in a 2 parent intact home with a sister and a dog. We had our kids later in life so we are end of the boomers and not helicopter parents at all. We both volunteered at school and kept them active but not over scheduled. Had dinner together at least 5 night s a week. Anyway, seems like we are about as normal as can be but still ended up with a troubled daughter. She didn’t get a phone until she was 13. One of the last in her class but I honestly wish I had waited until she was 18 as I suspect outside influences.
I absolutely agree with you about outside influences. Lots and lots of parents appear to be doing everything in their power to give their children a solid start in life, but something outside their influence is getting into their kids' heads. Our social culture, or whatever you want to call it, clearly needs a complete overhaul when it is destroying the psyches of even the best-raised kiddos. I don't know how or if that can even happen without blowing everything up and starting again from scratch.
Blaming marijuana for peoples actions is about as useful as blaming guns or video games or music.
Its lazy, unsupported nonsense.
Millions of people enjoy smoking weed and don't commit crimes of violence or any other crime for that matter.
You can write an entire library of nonsense... doesn't make it anymore true.
Here is some insight on the broader issue: https://markhyman.substack.com/p/ending-school-violence
I'm sure there will be A LOT more of these Psychos in near future (especially since they can be used to confiscate guns from normal people - the 'authorities' will push 'a notch' some of these in the 'right' direction)
SSRI zombie
Blaming what he did on cannabis use, could be shortsighted and perchance a selective opinion based on your bias! It was mentioned after Gabrielle Gifford was shot males in their 20’s may go through bouts of temporary psychosis. Underlying mental disorders often show up in the 20’s as well! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1925038/ As with any substance that alters the mind, overuse in some may not be wise! There are millions who use cannabis and do not choose to kill others, just as there are millions who take mind altering substances who don’t either. The issue more than likely is an underlying mental disorder and unfortunately those who suffer from such may be prone under the influence of various substances to act in such a nefarious way.
Must consider all medication this lost soul was taking including cannabis. The Pharma med use is off the charts the past 20 years...especially with the young
Y'all are wrong. It's Trump's fault, dontcha know...? Just ask MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, the Washington (com)Post, the New York Slimes, and the AP.
And we gotta control the guns, too.
The movie “Reefer Madness” may have exaggerated the effects of cannabis. However to discount cannabis (namely the psychoactive component THC) as having no deleterious effect on some individuals and contributing to psychosis is truly madness.
Crazy people also usually drink water. How long will "scientists" deny the obvious connection?
Amazing and disturbing comments. Some of you need to get out and get away from those video games. Smoked "normal" weed when i was a teen in the 70's...had to stop because of the endless loops inside my brain housing group, and the paranoia...boy howdy! Later in life a DEA pal told me that the pot is more potent today (circa 2015), but WTF do I know...
I want to know what gun he used, and if he was even able to afford it.
Nothing adds up with the Uvalde shooting.
I'm a person who lived my teen years in the 60's. I actually lived in the Haight-Ashbury area in 1967-1968 and hung out there nearly daily. At the time cannabis was considered a benign mother herb and a cure all. I smoked it at that time but stopped shortly thereafter. Most of my friends continued smoking it and one by one they were slowly destroyed by it. I'm now 74 but the longest lived of all of them was in their late 50's. Not only did it contribute to their deaths, but it had eventually ruined their psyches and health. You'll never convince me that it was just a coincidence. It happened to all that continued using it and friends that had stopped early on are still alive and doing well.
The government knows Alex is right.
The more you keep your citizens off-kilter, the more harm you can do to them. Hence, legalization.
Note how bat💩 crazy the weed defenders get when Alex posts something.
I’m guessing he was also on ADHD and or antidepressant medications, which are methodologically as difficult to disentangle as cannibis use. I wonder if pot & psych drugs work synergystically?
Looking at that fellow's face it's hard for me to see "typical stoner kind of guy."
I was all for overturning Roe v. Wade, but as a parent, I reserve my right to choose a fitting punishment for any one of my children who turns into a heavy drug user with facial tattoos.
Be very careful and critical of what you smoke, ingest, or inject into your body. No one should want to be walking uncontrolled experiment.
It’s illegal to kill, people still do. Regulating pot won’t stop anyone from smoking.
Though I find it disgusting myself, I have tons of pothead friends who wouldn’t hurt a fly.
Many prescription drugs people are hooked on in this country can enhance psychosis and violence. I’d be far more interested in knowing which cocktail of prescribed drugs this idiot is in.
And, by the way, your anti-vaccination rant did nothing for me. I’m still unemployed. Which reaffirms the fact that this country is a powerful pharmaceutical force and that’s exactly why they want to put their hand on marijuana too.
To profit. Like you!
Anyone who hasn't tried cannabis has no business opining about its effects
"Anyone who hasn't tried heroin has no business opining about its effects"
Does that sound like a reasonable statement? No?
Yes, it does. Ask a heroin user. Their slang for heroin is "junk" because even addicts recognize it has no real redeeming value as a substance beyond its addictiveness & momentary escapism. No songs really praise it. No one is claiming heroin cured any illness or condition they had prior to using it. Verdict is pretty much unanimously negative, even among users.
Almost all the shooters are males. Does that mean that women don't use marijuana or that it doesn't affect them?
Tucker Carlson aired a segment last night that pointed out just how much Pfizer sponsorship supports the libtard media. I'm a free enterprise guy, hey make as much as you want, and keep it from big brother, but pharmaceutical companies are not innocent when it comes to making billions from the suffering of others. Don't think Pfizer didn't write on Joe Dumbass's note card, "YOU: I'm mandateing those vaccines."
cannabis ? lol .... try fbi
It's the dog that didn't bark. He let 30 days of gay pride parades go by unscathed. Then, on July 4th, he guns down dozens of people celebrating the birth of their country.
This dude is ANTIFA.
They are probably self medicating a long existent mental health problem.
Lezlieliberty keeps saying, "enjoy your day" and "have a nice day" because she realizes that her POV makes no sense. What's the first thing a government does before it turns tyrannical and takes complete control? Disarms the population. This has occurred over and over in history, yet all that Lezlieliberty--an oxymoron if ever there was one--can say is "have a nice day." We ought not allow such people to vote.
If you have to ask why drink, if you think the object or only result of drinking is drunkenness, then by your own conscience you should NOT drink!