For the second time in a week, top scientists have reported that “Omicron specific” Covid mRNA boosters are a $5 billion taxpayer-financed marketing gimmick.
The new shots work no better than the original mRNA shots to produce antibodies specifically targeting the Omicron variant.
And the Omicron shots are even WORSE than the original boosters in producing T-cells that target Omicron, according to the researchers, part of a group led by Dr. Dan Barouch, a highly respected virologist. This finding is of particular concern because T-cells, the second line of the immune system, keep infections from becoming too severe.
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Boosters using the original mRNA formulation have been largely phased out, because - as public health bureaucrats now admit - they stop working against Omicron infection within weeks. In fact, real-world data from many countries suggest they increase the risk of infection within months.
The “Omicron-specific” boosters were supposed to solve that problem. Regulators approved them in August, despite a lack of any clinical trial evidence they reduced coronavirus infections or serious cases of Covid in people. The Federal government agreed to pay Pfizer and Moderna $5 billion for 171 million doses of them.
But both Dr. Barouch’s study and another last week from Dr. David Ho, another top virologist, found that Omicron-specific boosters work no better than the original boosters against Omicron. Both studies showed the antibodies our immune systems produce after the Omicron shot are more effective against the original and now essentially extinct version of Sars-Cov-2 than against Omicron variants.
This phenomenon is called “original antigenic sin” or “immune imprinting,” and can occur after any vaccination - or infection. But the mRNA shots appear particularly likely to cause it, probably because they stimulate such high levels of anti-spike antibodies when they are first given.
The findings help explain why so many people, including Centers for Disease Control director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, have recently tested positive shortly after being boosted.
But Dr. Barouch’s group went further than Dr. Ho’s, examining T-cells as well. It found the same problem; following both the Omicron and the old booster, T-cells focused much more on the original Sars-Cov-2 than Omicron variants.
T-cells are a crucial second line of immune defense, helping the body keep infections from becoming too severe. Because Omicron is not very dangerous to most people, so a weak T-cell response does not matter much against it. But if a future Sars-Cov-2 variant is more dangerous, the relative lack of a T-cell response could put vaccinated people may be at serious risk.
(Bivalent is a fancy word for “Omicron-specific.” Except the Omicron-specific booster isn’t Omicron-specific at all, which is why T-cells targeting Omicron hardly rise at all following the bivalent booster, while they more than double after the original booster.)
As the researchers concluded:
Our findings suggest that immune imprinting by prior antigenic exposure may pose a greater challenge than currently appreciated for inducing robust immunity to SARS-CoV-2 variants.
Such a polite way to say, we gave a billion-plus people mRNA shots that probably opened them to future Sars-Cov-2 infections forever.
I dare not forward these articles or talk about them to my friends who were probably the first in line to receive the new boosters. They are completely closed minded on the subject so I won't let facts get in the way of their opinions.
Also, yet another study where they refuse to look at unvaccinated people with previous infections (aka natural immunity). I know that wasn't in the scope of this particular study, but why won't they look at us?? The few studies that do seem to show that our protection is equal or (usually) better than ANY of these shots!
And yet the CDC won't stop the TV commercials pressing people to get the worthless-but-harmful booster. I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for those people.
"Because Omicron is not very dangerous to most people, so a weak T-cell response does not matter much against it." Get rid of "so".
and,
"But if a future Sars-Cov-2 variant is more dangerous, the relative lack of a T-cell response could put vaccinated people may be at serious risk." Get rid of "may be".
And yet as a Canadian wanting to go to Florida for the winter I needed to be vaxxed. And I can’t even just take the bivelant booster. I have to take the original two on schedule. Makes soooo much sense.
It’s clear that the pharma companies knew before hand that omicron specific boosters failed to produce an adequate immune response, so they included the original strain in order to boost antibodies and give the appearance of efficacy. Really remarkable that no one questioned why the original strain, which no longer exists, would need to be included in an omicron booster!! Pharma laughing again all the way to the bank.
This is exactly what some of the so called "antivaxxers" warned about with a leaky vaccine. I'm sure the corporate media will correct the record on this, along with reporting on their own responsibility for misleading millions of people. /s
Having listened and read Geert van den Bosche since early days of the vax campaign, I can't help but grieve for what might have been if anyone in power would have listened to him. He has been consistently correct about the vaccine and the course the virus would take due to the massive selective pressure exerted on it from the mass vaccination campaign right down to what Alex states here that the vaccinated may be susceptible for continual and severe COVID going forward. I love Alex, but he is very late to this issue.
Interesting- I read this finding in your email last week and in one piece written by a Bloomberg reporter two hours later...and yet, channels 2, 4, 5 and 7 in NYC said nothing on this. It did show, however, Dementia Joe getting his shot and clips of him telling everyone to get it within hours of that first report hitting. This is headline news, yet 8 hrs later, we see on prime time news the dope getting his shot, orging Americans to do the same and endless commercials for Moderna and Pfizer...oh and what else? Headline stories across the US being Kanye West, Biden chiding oil co's profits and divs, moronic reporting on Trump and Jan 6th, someone pushed on NYC subway tracks again and- oh, a fire in Brooklyn. No one has the nuts to report on this to the masses as it would be fail # 196 of this admin two weeks before midterms. THIS is headline news - not the garbage currently being shown on NBC, CBS and ABC. This needs to be 20 minutes of "60 Minutes" at the very least- but pretty obvious why this is happening. Maybe now twitter has a shot at getting the word out- when the House and Senate roll, we will see what happens with this kind of thing...and with the laptop, and with Pelosi's personal investments over the past 10 years and being lied to on a daily bases by these Demo clowns, and and and. Please vote -unless Republicans win by a MASSIVE margin, the Dems will cheat their way to holding both House and Senate. If there is a god, that will not happen. It will take a decade to unwind the damage of the last 18 months and we need to get started asap.
When will the new owner of Twitter unban Geert Vanden Bossche, who showed this from the rooftops in 2021, with perfect clarity? When will Public Health officials, big government, big pharma, big media, big medicine abd big education be tried, convicted & imprisoned for leading sheep to slaughter on top of a mountain of lies. With their mountain of lies, disinformation & grift crumbling down, who will be smart enough to get out while they can?
If ever you needed proof, that our government healthcare watchdogs are in on the COVID vaccine scam, this is it. It is going to take winning some class action lawsuits to turn this around. Democrats are too invested in the lies. With the exception of a few like Rand Paul, don't expect Republicans to do much either after the elections. They prefer not to make waves; just bad manners to do so!
It amazes me how the health authority in Canada is on the TV every night pushing boosters and saying it is too save the healthcare system while in fact the healthcare system is filling up with people with non C**** respiratory ailments. It seems like a massive coverup of the fact that healthcare system in Canada has been mismanaged for years and is now in crisis and they are trying to divert blame and distract people. So yeah...incompetence, profiteering, malice, deception...all of it.
Perhaps the scariest thing, to me, has been when given clinical data contrary to the govt line (I spent a great deal of time doing that), the news media followed the govt line. They closed their eyes. They did not think. They did not care about truth or that people's lives were at stake. Prior to covid, I didn't believe in "fake news." But if I can't trust news and various govt health departments with easily verifiable fact, logic and science to use a maligned word, I can't trust them.
I don't believe Fauci, or Walensky or Bourla ever got the "vaccine". They know what's in them and that they don't work. All a show for the little people.
Have you figured out how many of the original doses, bought and paid for, are or have been wasted, including those procured for international distribution, and those left over by removing the booster EUA in favor on the 'new and improved' bivalent version? This 5 billion is only part of the direct payments to the pharma companies that will have been wasted.
Two comments one is it is my understanding that the cell mediated response is the first line of defense and our immune system and the overall problem with vaccines in general is they focus on antibody production and when we are being vaccinated numerous numerous numerous times over our lifetime we run the risk of developing autoimmune diseases. Secondly the MRNA vaccine in general focuses on the spike protein and not the virus itself so no matter what they do in terms of changing whatever it is they are changing the focus is still on the spike protein. And in general the medical community needs to start questioning the Abundant use of vaccines in general. Vaccines do not work by themselves it is required to add toxins to the mix and the toxins often times have their own side effects which no one tells us about and I think sometimes most medical personnel don't understand the side effects of those toxins either
Since we know that often vaccinations produce a Cytokine storm in many older people that cannot ward off the immune systems over response to an invading virus, and certainly many of our elderly are no longer within the population. as Pfizer and Moderna along with the CDC posit that it was caused by vaccine deniers that avoided the 4 plus jabs. Too many studies have debunked this un-truth and have proven that the jabs have caused many takers of the jab to come down with the virus. There are perhaps no more aged populations that succumbed to the shot rather than the virus, that the manufacturers can sell their miracle oil to the general population with impunity.
FWIW, an observation. I live with a hospital employee that’s required to get annual flu shots and Covid boosters. This year she developed ITP pretty badly after the flu shot - as in borderline open wounds, profound weakness and tiredness that’s been going on for a month now, etc… enough in my estimation to disqualify her from future vaccines. I bring this up because her doctors(multiple) have seen an unusually high number of these cases in patients with her profile.
"Our findings suggest that immune imprinting by prior antigenic exposure may pose a greater challenge than currently appreciated for inducing robust immunity to SARS-CoV-2 variants."
How is “original antigenic sin” or “immune imprinting” different in a person that is covid vaxxed/boosted and never infected vs someone that has never been vaccinated but has been infected and recovered (i.e. natural immunity)? Is it because the omicron-specific mRNA shots cause such high levels of spike protein shortly after injection that the vaxxed/boosted person has a muted T-cell response and is thus at higher risk of severe covid outcomes when infected? Does a person with natural immunity but unvaccinated have a better T-cell response because of lower levels of spike protein in their body? Isn't the mRNA vaccine supposed to create high levels of spike protein? Is it that the spike protein is the wrong type (for the old covid variant) or because the spike protein level is just too high? Even if these questions are unanswerable, it's clear that we don't have sufficient data to call these vaccines neither safe nor effective. If anyone can answer any of my questions I would be appreciative.
I think we are all more than aware of the mrna lack of performance. But what about the Novavax vaccine that big pharma and the FDA sure did work hard to keep under wraps? Curious to know because it seems like they had infinitely more rigorous hoops to jump before finally being accepted a full 2 years later.
I can say that in my workplace of around 90 people, covid took out numerous colleagues through the summer. The small handful who refused the shot and had prior infection did not get sick. All of those getting covid for 2nd and 3rd times were jabbed.
we knew about immune imprinting and I mentioned it in a thread discussion about the flu vaccine. Who knows where all this immune modulation will take us. I sense - no where good.
Geert warned about this in March 2021 and nobody listened. This is extremely serious but as Geert always says, everyone is treating Covid like the stock market. Nobody is using the knowledge gathered over the centuries to predict what will happen if you do X. According to Geert, this was vaccinology 101. Pathetic. Now we head towards nature's equilibrium.
On a slightly different note, my boss (55 years old WITH a known heart condition), and his other half took themselves off to the local Shoppers Drug Mart in Calgary AB and got themselves fully protected (obviously) by gettin' the 8-Mouse Special Booster No.2: he tells me he shuts out all that other annoying jibber jabber so he focuses on following the 'scientific recommendation'. Funny, he's not big into the flu shot but is now considering getting armed with that too, because he can have 'full protection' for this winter, which has started 1 month earlier (damn you SUV drivers causing global warming, or the weather). And there was me thinkin' he was the smartest guy in the room.... duh!!!
Chilling final comment: "Such a polite way to say, we gave a billion-plus people mRNA shots that probably opened them to future Sars-Cov-2 infections forever."
I am totally confused. I haven't had a single shot of mRNA non-vaccine and this discussion on what booster works is plain confusing. I had sniffles couple of times this year. Was it COVID that everybody is afraid of?
I don't think we really know what the full risk profile of the COVID "vaccines" is (especially the MRNA types). There is certainly anecdotal evidence that there are more severe side effects than have generally been admitted by Pfizer et al. I know since I am one of the people listed in VAERS for them.
I was just pointing out that I have frequently come across people excited about how much better naturally stimulated immunity is to the point that some want to catch COVID in order to acquire it. However small the risk of COVID may be to most healthy folks right now, it is nonetheless not zero. Both virus-stimulated and vaccine-stimulated immunity has a downside risk.
Another new study - yes, a SECOND one - says the "Omicron-specific" mRNA Covid boosters are worthless
I've tried to convince myself this is just incompetence or profiteering.
We all know what's going on now:
MALICE
I dare not forward these articles or talk about them to my friends who were probably the first in line to receive the new boosters. They are completely closed minded on the subject so I won't let facts get in the way of their opinions.
Worst crime against humanity in the history of the world. Have a nice day!
Color me shocked. 🤨
Also, yet another study where they refuse to look at unvaccinated people with previous infections (aka natural immunity). I know that wasn't in the scope of this particular study, but why won't they look at us?? The few studies that do seem to show that our protection is equal or (usually) better than ANY of these shots!
And yet the CDC won't stop the TV commercials pressing people to get the worthless-but-harmful booster. I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for those people.
Just some typo housekeeping:
"Because Omicron is not very dangerous to most people, so a weak T-cell response does not matter much against it." Get rid of "so".
and,
"But if a future Sars-Cov-2 variant is more dangerous, the relative lack of a T-cell response could put vaccinated people may be at serious risk." Get rid of "may be".
PAY NO ATTENTION TO COVID!
LOOK OVER HERE!
NANCY PELOSI'S HUSBAND WAS HIT IN THE HEAD BY A HAMMER-WIELDING ELECTION DENIER!
Where do I go to get my immune system back?
We are so screwed……
And yet as a Canadian wanting to go to Florida for the winter I needed to be vaxxed. And I can’t even just take the bivelant booster. I have to take the original two on schedule. Makes soooo much sense.
They're worse than worthless
It’s clear that the pharma companies knew before hand that omicron specific boosters failed to produce an adequate immune response, so they included the original strain in order to boost antibodies and give the appearance of efficacy. Really remarkable that no one questioned why the original strain, which no longer exists, would need to be included in an omicron booster!! Pharma laughing again all the way to the bank.
This is exactly what some of the so called "antivaxxers" warned about with a leaky vaccine. I'm sure the corporate media will correct the record on this, along with reporting on their own responsibility for misleading millions of people. /s
Fear is the key. If people have enough fear, they cannot think. If they cannot think, it makes no difference if the shots work or not.
Just here to enjoy (re) tweeting this without fear. At least for the moment.
Having listened and read Geert van den Bosche since early days of the vax campaign, I can't help but grieve for what might have been if anyone in power would have listened to him. He has been consistently correct about the vaccine and the course the virus would take due to the massive selective pressure exerted on it from the mass vaccination campaign right down to what Alex states here that the vaccinated may be susceptible for continual and severe COVID going forward. I love Alex, but he is very late to this issue.
Interesting- I read this finding in your email last week and in one piece written by a Bloomberg reporter two hours later...and yet, channels 2, 4, 5 and 7 in NYC said nothing on this. It did show, however, Dementia Joe getting his shot and clips of him telling everyone to get it within hours of that first report hitting. This is headline news, yet 8 hrs later, we see on prime time news the dope getting his shot, orging Americans to do the same and endless commercials for Moderna and Pfizer...oh and what else? Headline stories across the US being Kanye West, Biden chiding oil co's profits and divs, moronic reporting on Trump and Jan 6th, someone pushed on NYC subway tracks again and- oh, a fire in Brooklyn. No one has the nuts to report on this to the masses as it would be fail # 196 of this admin two weeks before midterms. THIS is headline news - not the garbage currently being shown on NBC, CBS and ABC. This needs to be 20 minutes of "60 Minutes" at the very least- but pretty obvious why this is happening. Maybe now twitter has a shot at getting the word out- when the House and Senate roll, we will see what happens with this kind of thing...and with the laptop, and with Pelosi's personal investments over the past 10 years and being lied to on a daily bases by these Demo clowns, and and and. Please vote -unless Republicans win by a MASSIVE margin, the Dems will cheat their way to holding both House and Senate. If there is a god, that will not happen. It will take a decade to unwind the damage of the last 18 months and we need to get started asap.
Alex MUCH worse than USELESS! That implies they just did NOTHING. They killed and seriously injured millions.
Over Here, we say two wrongs don't make a right. They make A Bigger Wrong....
When will the new owner of Twitter unban Geert Vanden Bossche, who showed this from the rooftops in 2021, with perfect clarity? When will Public Health officials, big government, big pharma, big media, big medicine abd big education be tried, convicted & imprisoned for leading sheep to slaughter on top of a mountain of lies. With their mountain of lies, disinformation & grift crumbling down, who will be smart enough to get out while they can?
White House covid czar Ashish jha covered up a brown students hospitalization from covid jab. He pushed mandates anyway. Pure evil: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-get-into-harvard-part-2
If ever you needed proof, that our government healthcare watchdogs are in on the COVID vaccine scam, this is it. It is going to take winning some class action lawsuits to turn this around. Democrats are too invested in the lies. With the exception of a few like Rand Paul, don't expect Republicans to do much either after the elections. They prefer not to make waves; just bad manners to do so!
It amazes me how the health authority in Canada is on the TV every night pushing boosters and saying it is too save the healthcare system while in fact the healthcare system is filling up with people with non C**** respiratory ailments. It seems like a massive coverup of the fact that healthcare system in Canada has been mismanaged for years and is now in crisis and they are trying to divert blame and distract people. So yeah...incompetence, profiteering, malice, deception...all of it.
Perhaps the scariest thing, to me, has been when given clinical data contrary to the govt line (I spent a great deal of time doing that), the news media followed the govt line. They closed their eyes. They did not think. They did not care about truth or that people's lives were at stake. Prior to covid, I didn't believe in "fake news." But if I can't trust news and various govt health departments with easily verifiable fact, logic and science to use a maligned word, I can't trust them.
Still trying to get an answer re RSV in children under 2 years old and the vaccination status of their parents.
I don't believe Fauci, or Walensky or Bourla ever got the "vaccine". They know what's in them and that they don't work. All a show for the little people.
Have you figured out how many of the original doses, bought and paid for, are or have been wasted, including those procured for international distribution, and those left over by removing the booster EUA in favor on the 'new and improved' bivalent version? This 5 billion is only part of the direct payments to the pharma companies that will have been wasted.
CV19 Vax Destroys Hearts & Brains of Billions of People – Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi
Dr. Bhakdi contends that the world should stop the injections now and Covid is a “criminal hoax.”
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/cv19-vax-destroys-hearts-and-brains
Geert Vandenbossch warned of this in early summer 2020.
GVB is right.
Two comments one is it is my understanding that the cell mediated response is the first line of defense and our immune system and the overall problem with vaccines in general is they focus on antibody production and when we are being vaccinated numerous numerous numerous times over our lifetime we run the risk of developing autoimmune diseases. Secondly the MRNA vaccine in general focuses on the spike protein and not the virus itself so no matter what they do in terms of changing whatever it is they are changing the focus is still on the spike protein. And in general the medical community needs to start questioning the Abundant use of vaccines in general. Vaccines do not work by themselves it is required to add toxins to the mix and the toxins often times have their own side effects which no one tells us about and I think sometimes most medical personnel don't understand the side effects of those toxins either
the more we warn people the more they close their ears
people are waking up but perhaps too slowly to turn what is happening around
Opening people to perpetual infections is just good business practice
This was all predictable, based on simple logic in regards to virology and immunology, when these gene therapies were rolled out almost two years ago.
Since we know that often vaccinations produce a Cytokine storm in many older people that cannot ward off the immune systems over response to an invading virus, and certainly many of our elderly are no longer within the population. as Pfizer and Moderna along with the CDC posit that it was caused by vaccine deniers that avoided the 4 plus jabs. Too many studies have debunked this un-truth and have proven that the jabs have caused many takers of the jab to come down with the virus. There are perhaps no more aged populations that succumbed to the shot rather than the virus, that the manufacturers can sell their miracle oil to the general population with impunity.
FWIW, an observation. I live with a hospital employee that’s required to get annual flu shots and Covid boosters. This year she developed ITP pretty badly after the flu shot - as in borderline open wounds, profound weakness and tiredness that’s been going on for a month now, etc… enough in my estimation to disqualify her from future vaccines. I bring this up because her doctors(multiple) have seen an unusually high number of these cases in patients with her profile.
"Our findings suggest that immune imprinting by prior antigenic exposure may pose a greater challenge than currently appreciated for inducing robust immunity to SARS-CoV-2 variants."
If only someone had tried to warn them! 😟
Don't forget that's tax money -- or rather borrowed money. to be eventually paid from future tax revenue (perhaps).
How is “original antigenic sin” or “immune imprinting” different in a person that is covid vaxxed/boosted and never infected vs someone that has never been vaccinated but has been infected and recovered (i.e. natural immunity)? Is it because the omicron-specific mRNA shots cause such high levels of spike protein shortly after injection that the vaxxed/boosted person has a muted T-cell response and is thus at higher risk of severe covid outcomes when infected? Does a person with natural immunity but unvaccinated have a better T-cell response because of lower levels of spike protein in their body? Isn't the mRNA vaccine supposed to create high levels of spike protein? Is it that the spike protein is the wrong type (for the old covid variant) or because the spike protein level is just too high? Even if these questions are unanswerable, it's clear that we don't have sufficient data to call these vaccines neither safe nor effective. If anyone can answer any of my questions I would be appreciative.
I think we are all more than aware of the mrna lack of performance. But what about the Novavax vaccine that big pharma and the FDA sure did work hard to keep under wraps? Curious to know because it seems like they had infinitely more rigorous hoops to jump before finally being accepted a full 2 years later.
Emily Oster 🧹Under the Rug Dreams: unlikely
I can say that in my workplace of around 90 people, covid took out numerous colleagues through the summer. The small handful who refused the shot and had prior infection did not get sick. All of those getting covid for 2nd and 3rd times were jabbed.
we knew about immune imprinting and I mentioned it in a thread discussion about the flu vaccine. Who knows where all this immune modulation will take us. I sense - no where good.
Related studies:
Original Antigenic Sin observed: "Ablation of CD8+ T cell recognition of an immunodominant epitope in SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variants BA.1, BA.2 and BA.3"
- A walkthrough of the paper with definitions
https://doorlesscarp953.substack.com/p/original-antigenic-sin-observed-ablation
Geert warned about this in March 2021 and nobody listened. This is extremely serious but as Geert always says, everyone is treating Covid like the stock market. Nobody is using the knowledge gathered over the centuries to predict what will happen if you do X. According to Geert, this was vaccinology 101. Pathetic. Now we head towards nature's equilibrium.
On a slightly different note, my boss (55 years old WITH a known heart condition), and his other half took themselves off to the local Shoppers Drug Mart in Calgary AB and got themselves fully protected (obviously) by gettin' the 8-Mouse Special Booster No.2: he tells me he shuts out all that other annoying jibber jabber so he focuses on following the 'scientific recommendation'. Funny, he's not big into the flu shot but is now considering getting armed with that too, because he can have 'full protection' for this winter, which has started 1 month earlier (damn you SUV drivers causing global warming, or the weather). And there was me thinkin' he was the smartest guy in the room.... duh!!!
Chilling final comment: "Such a polite way to say, we gave a billion-plus people mRNA shots that probably opened them to future Sars-Cov-2 infections forever."
I am totally confused. I haven't had a single shot of mRNA non-vaccine and this discussion on what booster works is plain confusing. I had sniffles couple of times this year. Was it COVID that everybody is afraid of?
What’s REALLY sad is there are STILL sheeple lining up for these worthless jabs!!!
I don't think we really know what the full risk profile of the COVID "vaccines" is (especially the MRNA types). There is certainly anecdotal evidence that there are more severe side effects than have generally been admitted by Pfizer et al. I know since I am one of the people listed in VAERS for them.
I was just pointing out that I have frequently come across people excited about how much better naturally stimulated immunity is to the point that some want to catch COVID in order to acquire it. However small the risk of COVID may be to most healthy folks right now, it is nonetheless not zero. Both virus-stimulated and vaccine-stimulated immunity has a downside risk.