Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old who (allegedly) gunned down CEO Brian Thompson, is a watershed figure, a would-be Unabomber who was both less - and more. I fear we'll see more like him.
I was thinking the exact same thing! It’s very odd. For someone supposedly so intelligent he made a lot of stupid mistakes. It does seem that he was mentally and possibly physically ill. He had spinal X-rays and books on chronic pain so many things are possible here. In his manifesto apparently were some things about the “healthcare system “( sick care system as some call it), giving a pill for this and then when a person is depressed over their situation, giving another pill for that. I’m completely paraphrasing what I read in another article.
We sure have learned a lot about him in this short amount of time vs Thomas Crooks, a person about who we still know very little. Maybe when Trump gets in office he can put someone in charge of that investigation.
The contrast between what we now know about Mangione (after five days) and what we now know about Crooks(after around five months) is absolutely mind boggling. What you are seeing here is the Deep State in action.
There's nothing mysterious here. If you don't post all your personal thoughts and info on social media, then no one will know your innermost thoughts and actions. Perhaps there's lesson for all of us?
I’m seeing a lot of skepticism at this “preponderance of evidence” they found on him. Awfully convenient for the note, murder weapon, and clothing to all be retrieved when they found him, far away from the scene of the crime. Nothing about that feels fishy?
not as fishy as the mcdonald's worker recognizing him from all the conflicting public photos, calling the police, and then the police taking it seriously enough to somehow get there before he finished his big mac.
Seriously?? When I saw the full face photo posted online on Friday, I predicted he would be in custody within 24 hours. I was wrong on the timeline, but it was only a matter of time before someone spotted him.
It feels more like a typical elitist attitude. He wasn’t worried about getting caught with evidence because he is quite sure that he is smarter than anybody else, especially the losers in law enforcement. He was certain he had easily pulled off the crime of the decade.
There's a great line in the movie "Body Heat" with William Hurt and Kathleen Turner. An arsonist, played by Mickey Rourke, tells Hurt's character: "Anytime you try a decent crime, there's 50 ways you can fuck up. If you think of 25 of them you're a genius. And you ain't no genius." Mangione wasn't a genius either.
Absolutely! He was smart, but also young - did not yet realize what he didn't know. Going into Starbucks before the shooting showed how little he knew about "getting away with it."
Has anyone else noticed that the photos of the killer from the hostel and/or taxi (which I have no doubt actually show the killer) look markedly different from the photos of Mangione's face (killer's eyebrows look much further apart than Mangione's, for example)?
I find it interesting that a guy who was able to be on the run for days was caught with the actual gun, silencer and fake ID that he used to commit the crime. Its seems just too clean
i don't think he should have done it, but if he was going to walk around with all that kit forever - he might as well have worn a gopro & livestreamed it all
Maybe it's just my skeptical nature, but all just seems a bit too perfect As if it is meant to be all be nicely wrapped up and the media will move on and no one will ask any more questions.
His schooling obviously radicalized him like it has most of these similar types of people. That is exactly why I am hesitant to send my kids off to a non-Christian High School, let alone just about any college other than Hillsdale. I'm Catholic and there isn't one Catholic University worth a damn these days. I want the Catholic University I graduated from to fail.
You might look into Thomas Aquinas College, which has a west coast and an east coast campus. It’s a highly rated liberal arts college which uses the Great Books as the core of its curriculum.
I have six nephews and a niece who are graduates; all are doing very well professionally especially my 49 year old nephew who retired this past year. He’s sending his children to TAC.
Another good school is Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio.
Christendom College in Front Royal, VA likewise produces wonderful graduates.
Patients with CIP (Cannabis Induced Psychosis) are frequently on benzos for the voices etc. And most primary care docs are going to use SSRIs like Prozac on such patients--even though they don't help for psychosis and may make things worse. Doesn't sound like this guy had CIP. But even as common as that has become, there is a much larger population of people who have more subtle symptoms like paranoia or delusional thinking. THC doesn't make someone a Jihadist, insurrectionist or Antifa. But it makes people more susceptible to such radicalization. You can't explain the last decade's craziness absent something in the air--which of course is right in front of our noses.
Makes one wonder given this failed back surgery (FBS) mention, just when Mangione began taking a various cocktail of meds for coping reasons. What was he ON exactly, and just when did he plan this execution of CEO. Was the planning began pre meds or post medication dosing. Hmmmm
Of course there's been inexplicable violence before the mRNA "vaccines." Throughout history, actually. That doesn't rule them out as a contributing factor today. I've read many reports of a connection between them and psychotic behavior.
As a pediatric nurse practitioner the first question that springs in to my mind upon hearing of a mass shooting is: "What medications was the shooter on?" I have thought this since Columbine.
There are several categories of meds that have "behavioral activation" as a side effect. That is, previously calm people become physically aggressive or even violent after starting on a psychotropic drug. I have seen this particularly with stimulants used for ADHD (e.g., Ritalin).
Heck, even steroids can produce aggression.
Other categories of drugs can induce suicidality (SSRIs) & I was taught during my psych rotation in nursing school at Bellevue that someone who is suicidal is also potentially homicidal. And then there's the worst: second-generation atypical anti-psychotics (e.g., Seroquel, Risperdal) which are prescribed for anything & everything & very often make the patient worse. Here in NYC since the legalization of marijuana we are inundated with raving vagrants everywhere one goes.
Then again, in the case at hand, the shooter is at the tail end of the age range for emerging
schizophrenia. So, who knows? I agree with a later comment by Dr. Poling: Publish the toxicology reports!
Why are they on medications? Answer: mental health symptoms. Yes, some "first line" medications can make someone with undiagnosed psychosis worse. But the more common pattern in these "inexplicable crimes" is marijuana leading to mental health symptoms leading to medications which may or may not work.
Yes, it will be interesting to learn--providing we do--what drugs/even medications, he may have been regularly using. Many people dealing with chronic pain issues use or increase their use of cannibis.
I want to know what happened in the last roughly 2 hours prior to him deciding to walk out of that hotel without his 24/7 security detail..... and then the shooter just happened to be there. Something is off. I am glad other people are thinking it as well. I feel like I am wearing 3 tin foil hats sometimes.
So, you basically just proved my point, minus the "2 hours prior to him deciding to walk out of that hotel without his 24/7 security detail". WHY did he not have security that day, like every major CEO does? Especially THAT DAY. This security expert was even the head of Thompson's private security in the past. He is even saying this is "completely unusual". So, thank you for backing me up, Beth.
Due to your astute calling me out, I did more research. If you read other articles (https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/expert-wonders-why-ceo-brian-thompson-had-no-security-in-nyc/), (https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/business/corporate-security-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting/index.html), there are conflicting reports. The same guy in the Fox News article says he has personally been on Thompson's private security detail in the past. The CNN article clearly states in the first paragraph that he did have a security detail on this NYC trip, and that article is from today (as opposed to the articles you posted which were from the 5th and the 6th). So, I'm going to ask again, why were they not with him at that time? Did he refuse? Was it pulled? I'm not sure it is completely clear at this point. What I do know is that security experts are asking the same questions that I am.... why didn't he have security at that time? They are stunned that he didn't, especially that day and with the threats he had been receiving. There are quotes saying that even if his security was with him, it is unclear if they would have been able to prevent his assassination. Of course, we will never know, because they were not there.
Thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
The party of the elites claims to be the party of the common person while doing everything to destroy the ability of that person to succeed by shutting down opportunity based on merit instead of superficial irrelevant characteristics.
John Leake has also been writing some detailed and interesting things on Substack about this killing. He also questions why Mangione had all those incriminating items on his person, days later.
Either he did it and wanted to be caught, or…someone else did it and he’s a decoy, to get the police off the track of the actual killer. Leake puts the two security photos next to each other, and one can see that the eyebrows seem quite different. Bad camera? Or different man?
During the 1st 72 hours of this planned pre meditated killing my 1st thoughts were like many with it being some health insurance personal grievance which is still may be a motive, but after seeing Mangione lash out verbally as he was being taken into the jail last eve just struck me as a person who wanted to be caught, and society as a whole to NOTICE him. He was not concerned with being caught....surprised maybe where it occurred, but his EGO in listening to him was very revealing...at least for me. The time taken to write a manifesto bolsters this for me, but then again maybe it was written by another. Time will tell...maybe!
His anger appeared to be real and from the heart. A true believer. I recall Lee Harvey did not scream out in anger, but claimed he was being set up as a patsy. Not this guy.
He yelled out: “It’s completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience!” Appears to me to be the rant of a psychopath.
Exactly! So listening a few mins ago to a former roommate of Mangione say he never saw this side of Luigi. Did this psychopathic transition occur post failed back fusion taking a concoction of medication OR was it always there?
There's something about this scenario (the actual crime, the perp's getaway & temporary escape,
the capture in the MacDonald's) that stinks to high heaven. I've thought from the beginning that he was hired to do it. He seems just the type that an agency like the CIA would recruit to do its dirty work (the CIA does recruit at the Ivies). Also, to me, he doesn't really look like the person in the surveillance photos from the hostel. Anybody else skeptical?
Just NO WAY a person coming thru the plandemic CON can ever view otherwise. Its a DIFF world now and America. Staying AWAKE has never been more important and those you "choose" to trust
I still want answers as to why he was going to testify to the DOJ. Would it be a coincidence if it was about illegal insider trading? Dig deeper Alex. Too many layups on the “evidence “ to try and make it like he is a UnaBomber wanna be. Tea leaves my man.
Look into his family ties to Pelosi. They are deep.
The perps family has ties to Pelosi.
In addition, one day before UHC announced the massive data breach, Pelosi’s husband bought stock (I think calls) on Palo Alto Networks.
And who did UHC announce that they had hired to help them unwind the breach. Indeed. Palo Alto Networks
And the victim was being investigated by DOJ. And maybe was set to testify b4 a Congressional Committee about the breach.
Maybe he knew why Pelosi knew ahead of time.
There is something that smells about the entire thing. Nobody plans to the extent the perp planned, and then allows himself to get caught like that. They still haven’t solved the OKC Bombing. Waco. Ruby Ridge. Nashville. Boston Bombing.
I would appreciate a link to that article. I too heard that those being investigated for insider trading included a long list of prominent people, Nancy Pelosi included. My son has used the App created to follow her husband’s investment strategies. If that whole thing isn’t suspicious, I don’t know what is…
Simple fact, an insurance company has to pay out less than it takes in as revenue. Unlike Social Security. If they pay out too much, they go broke. Medical expenses are based on getting enough to survive. For example, from 2019-2021 my Medicare approved expenses were in excess of $600,000. They paid nothing like that. Hospitals were lucky if they got 15% of the bill, so they have to make it up elsewhere. The system is fu__'ed but how can it be fixed. I'm too old to try.
Medical providers know in advance they won't get their full invoice paid by medicare. I started to say it's a big game, but it's not even that. It's more like kabuki theater. Both sides are in on it. They do it for the audience.
Right you are. All these providers settle for what Medicare pays happily. They know they will get their money. Our local hospital charges off several millions each year for Medicare, Medicaid and indigent care.
Yes it’s a business and as such their primary goal is to make money. The same is true for hospitals. Very important to remember. Oftentimes the first default step is to deny the claim for a nitpicky reason. Have to be a very squeaky wheel and even then it’s no guarantee. Write everything down. Call weekly at least and ask for a call log number and the name of the person with whom you spoke. Many other tips I won’t go into here, but you get the point. It’s very time consuming and the average patient doesn’t speak the language. They count on this, and also that you’re busy and will just go away.
The whole of social welfare rationalizes itself the way Mangione rationalized his shooting - self-determined, subjective moral declarations by self-appointed gods being imposed on all of society.
This mindset is widespread and deeply entrenched, and it is antithetical to the Rule of Law, which requires formal, universal rules and processes for dealing with violations.
Interesting that we know more about this guy then we know about the Butler, PA Trump shooter.
I was thinking the exact same thing! It’s very odd. For someone supposedly so intelligent he made a lot of stupid mistakes. It does seem that he was mentally and possibly physically ill. He had spinal X-rays and books on chronic pain so many things are possible here. In his manifesto apparently were some things about the “healthcare system “( sick care system as some call it), giving a pill for this and then when a person is depressed over their situation, giving another pill for that. I’m completely paraphrasing what I read in another article.
We sure have learned a lot about him in this short amount of time vs Thomas Crooks, a person about who we still know very little. Maybe when Trump gets in office he can put someone in charge of that investigation.
The contrast between what we now know about Mangione (after five days) and what we now know about Crooks(after around five months) is absolutely mind boggling. What you are seeing here is the Deep State in action.
Progressivism is the disease. That's pretty much what Alex is saying without saying it.
Unreal, isn't it?
We wouldn't know anything about the Butler assassin if it wasn't for pesky cellphone videos.
The case would've been "solved" the next day.
We know both lived un Hawaii for a while. Are they connected, as patsies?
He and Thompson both graduated University of Iowa.
No the shooter went to Penn.
You're right I misread that, my bad.
Stop asking questions and trying to connect dots.
Amen. Shut up and lie down.
lol- yep…
My thoughts exactly! It's almost like the Trump shooter didn't even exist!
There's nothing mysterious here. If you don't post all your personal thoughts and info on social media, then no one will know your innermost thoughts and actions. Perhaps there's lesson for all of us?
I’m seeing a lot of skepticism at this “preponderance of evidence” they found on him. Awfully convenient for the note, murder weapon, and clothing to all be retrieved when they found him, far away from the scene of the crime. Nothing about that feels fishy?
not as fishy as the mcdonald's worker recognizing him from all the conflicting public photos, calling the police, and then the police taking it seriously enough to somehow get there before he finished his big mac.
Seriously?? When I saw the full face photo posted online on Friday, I predicted he would be in custody within 24 hours. I was wrong on the timeline, but it was only a matter of time before someone spotted him.
Being privileged and a good student does not equate to street smarts.
Unless it was the intent to be caught
Bingo
It feels more like a typical elitist attitude. He wasn’t worried about getting caught with evidence because he is quite sure that he is smarter than anybody else, especially the losers in law enforcement. He was certain he had easily pulled off the crime of the decade.
There's a great line in the movie "Body Heat" with William Hurt and Kathleen Turner. An arsonist, played by Mickey Rourke, tells Hurt's character: "Anytime you try a decent crime, there's 50 ways you can fuck up. If you think of 25 of them you're a genius. And you ain't no genius." Mangione wasn't a genius either.
Absolutely! He was smart, but also young - did not yet realize what he didn't know. Going into Starbucks before the shooting showed how little he knew about "getting away with it."
Maybe the valedictorian just wasn't all that smart after all.
100% I have been to that Altoona McDonald’s maybe 15 times. No shot an employee there knew it was him. This is rural Pa. IQ is below 80
Has anyone else noticed that the photos of the killer from the hostel and/or taxi (which I have no doubt actually show the killer) look markedly different from the photos of Mangione's face (killer's eyebrows look much further apart than Mangione's, for example)?
I find it interesting that a guy who was able to be on the run for days was caught with the actual gun, silencer and fake ID that he used to commit the crime. Its seems just too clean
don't forget about the manifesto!
i don't think he should have done it, but if he was going to walk around with all that kit forever - he might as well have worn a gopro & livestreamed it all
Maybe it's just my skeptical nature, but all just seems a bit too perfect As if it is meant to be all be nicely wrapped up and the media will move on and no one will ask any more questions.
His schooling obviously radicalized him like it has most of these similar types of people. That is exactly why I am hesitant to send my kids off to a non-Christian High School, let alone just about any college other than Hillsdale. I'm Catholic and there isn't one Catholic University worth a damn these days. I want the Catholic University I graduated from to fail.
Or, pray that it would be redeemed by some great leadership.
You might look into Thomas Aquinas College, which has a west coast and an east coast campus. It’s a highly rated liberal arts college which uses the Great Books as the core of its curriculum.
I have six nephews and a niece who are graduates; all are doing very well professionally especially my 49 year old nephew who retired this past year. He’s sending his children to TAC.
Another good school is Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio.
Christendom College in Front Royal, VA likewise produces wonderful graduates.
Hillsdale College also very solid.
I'll give 10:1 odds that high potency pot is a vital ingredient to this tragic murder fueled by such paranoid delusion.
https://thebeagledotcom.wordpress.com/2024/12/08/last-weeks-assassination-may-have-mortally-wound-your-healthcare/
That or medications for anxiety as so commonly found correlated-found with mass shootings
Patients with CIP (Cannabis Induced Psychosis) are frequently on benzos for the voices etc. And most primary care docs are going to use SSRIs like Prozac on such patients--even though they don't help for psychosis and may make things worse. Doesn't sound like this guy had CIP. But even as common as that has become, there is a much larger population of people who have more subtle symptoms like paranoia or delusional thinking. THC doesn't make someone a Jihadist, insurrectionist or Antifa. But it makes people more susceptible to such radicalization. You can't explain the last decade's craziness absent something in the air--which of course is right in front of our noses.
Makes one wonder given this failed back surgery (FBS) mention, just when Mangione began taking a various cocktail of meds for coping reasons. What was he ON exactly, and just when did he plan this execution of CEO. Was the planning began pre meds or post medication dosing. Hmmmm
Should be federal law that arrested and dead shooter's toxicology reports be released to the public.
Such common sense too, but those special interests behind the scene would not approve of such transparency would they.
Authorities are afraid of violating medical privacy laws. So it would take another federal law to override.
Exactly my thoughts!!! Drug induced psychosis, etc…
Good to hear an MD say this because it was one of the first things I suspected.
More likely the clot shots.
The rise in "inexplicable" shootings started about a decade before mRNA vaccines coinciding with the advent of another "medicine".
Of course there's been inexplicable violence before the mRNA "vaccines." Throughout history, actually. That doesn't rule them out as a contributing factor today. I've read many reports of a connection between them and psychotic behavior.
As many things these shots are responsible for, and there are a lot, I’m doubtful this is one of them…
As a pediatric nurse practitioner the first question that springs in to my mind upon hearing of a mass shooting is: "What medications was the shooter on?" I have thought this since Columbine.
There are several categories of meds that have "behavioral activation" as a side effect. That is, previously calm people become physically aggressive or even violent after starting on a psychotropic drug. I have seen this particularly with stimulants used for ADHD (e.g., Ritalin).
Heck, even steroids can produce aggression.
Other categories of drugs can induce suicidality (SSRIs) & I was taught during my psych rotation in nursing school at Bellevue that someone who is suicidal is also potentially homicidal. And then there's the worst: second-generation atypical anti-psychotics (e.g., Seroquel, Risperdal) which are prescribed for anything & everything & very often make the patient worse. Here in NYC since the legalization of marijuana we are inundated with raving vagrants everywhere one goes.
Then again, in the case at hand, the shooter is at the tail end of the age range for emerging
schizophrenia. So, who knows? I agree with a later comment by Dr. Poling: Publish the toxicology reports!
Ilene Heller, RN, MS, CPNP
Why are they on medications? Answer: mental health symptoms. Yes, some "first line" medications can make someone with undiagnosed psychosis worse. But the more common pattern in these "inexplicable crimes" is marijuana leading to mental health symptoms leading to medications which may or may not work.
Yes, it will be interesting to learn--providing we do--what drugs/even medications, he may have been regularly using. Many people dealing with chronic pain issues use or increase their use of cannibis.
Someone needs to explain to me how this punk, acting alone, managed to perfectly intersect with his target.
I want to know what happened in the last roughly 2 hours prior to him deciding to walk out of that hotel without his 24/7 security detail..... and then the shooter just happened to be there. Something is off. I am glad other people are thinking it as well. I feel like I am wearing 3 tin foil hats sometimes.
What are you talking about? The CEO didn't have a 24/7 security detail: https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/security-expert-shocked-united-healthcare-ceo-didnt-have-private-detail-this-completely-unusual
So, you basically just proved my point, minus the "2 hours prior to him deciding to walk out of that hotel without his 24/7 security detail". WHY did he not have security that day, like every major CEO does? Especially THAT DAY. This security expert was even the head of Thompson's private security in the past. He is even saying this is "completely unusual". So, thank you for backing me up, Beth.
I didn't back you up because what you wrote isn't factual. You wrote "... without his 24/7 security detail." Again, what 24/7 security detail? He never had it. From NBC News: "Thompson did not have a dedicated security detail, in contrast to some other executives in the health-insurance sector." https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/money-report/executives-seek-more-protection-after-unitedhealthcare-ceo-thompson-killing-kroll-says/3575663/?os=roku%2F&ref=app
Due to your astute calling me out, I did more research. If you read other articles (https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/expert-wonders-why-ceo-brian-thompson-had-no-security-in-nyc/), (https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/business/corporate-security-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting/index.html), there are conflicting reports. The same guy in the Fox News article says he has personally been on Thompson's private security detail in the past. The CNN article clearly states in the first paragraph that he did have a security detail on this NYC trip, and that article is from today (as opposed to the articles you posted which were from the 5th and the 6th). So, I'm going to ask again, why were they not with him at that time? Did he refuse? Was it pulled? I'm not sure it is completely clear at this point. What I do know is that security experts are asking the same questions that I am.... why didn't he have security at that time? They are stunned that he didn't, especially that day and with the threats he had been receiving. There are quotes saying that even if his security was with him, it is unclear if they would have been able to prevent his assassination. Of course, we will never know, because they were not there.
Thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
I wish this issue of a security detail would be clarified. Just adds to my questions.
The party of the elites claims to be the party of the common person while doing everything to destroy the ability of that person to succeed by shutting down opportunity based on merit instead of superficial irrelevant characteristics.
John Leake has also been writing some detailed and interesting things on Substack about this killing. He also questions why Mangione had all those incriminating items on his person, days later.
Either he did it and wanted to be caught, or…someone else did it and he’s a decoy, to get the police off the track of the actual killer. Leake puts the two security photos next to each other, and one can see that the eyebrows seem quite different. Bad camera? Or different man?
He was arrogant. Like most leftist "progressives."
The goal seems to be for them to attempt to divide people by race, gender, success etc in order to rule them.
During the 1st 72 hours of this planned pre meditated killing my 1st thoughts were like many with it being some health insurance personal grievance which is still may be a motive, but after seeing Mangione lash out verbally as he was being taken into the jail last eve just struck me as a person who wanted to be caught, and society as a whole to NOTICE him. He was not concerned with being caught....surprised maybe where it occurred, but his EGO in listening to him was very revealing...at least for me. The time taken to write a manifesto bolsters this for me, but then again maybe it was written by another. Time will tell...maybe!
His anger appeared to be real and from the heart. A true believer. I recall Lee Harvey did not scream out in anger, but claimed he was being set up as a patsy. Not this guy.
Yes...was striking in that regard wasn't IT
He yelled out: “It’s completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience!” Appears to me to be the rant of a psychopath.
Exactly! So listening a few mins ago to a former roommate of Mangione say he never saw this side of Luigi. Did this psychopathic transition occur post failed back fusion taking a concoction of medication OR was it always there?
Alex you are DEAD on about back surgery realities!
Alex knows-
I can’t believe they’d do a fusion on a 26 yo!
LOL, seriously? These are the same people who will cut the breasts off a 12-year old.
Can't say I "like" your comment, but you are spot on with your observation.
My thought too, but not seeing the MRI or other reports perhaps it was pretty severe injury. Rare regardless at that age for sure
There's something about this scenario (the actual crime, the perp's getaway & temporary escape,
the capture in the MacDonald's) that stinks to high heaven. I've thought from the beginning that he was hired to do it. He seems just the type that an agency like the CIA would recruit to do its dirty work (the CIA does recruit at the Ivies). Also, to me, he doesn't really look like the person in the surveillance photos from the hostel. Anybody else skeptical?
This whole situation is nothing if not one massive SKEPTICAL :) Just what will BE the final "official" finding and when will that be told lol
I predict he shoots himself in the head a couple of times.
No, I disagree. I think someone else will shoot him (think: Lee Harvey Oswald)
to keep him from talking about who hired him. Before the government covid response & the 2020 election results I stayed away from conspiracy theories.
I'm still not all in on them, but now I consider them.
Just NO WAY a person coming thru the plandemic CON can ever view otherwise. Its a DIFF world now and America. Staying AWAKE has never been more important and those you "choose" to trust
Or someone DOES for what reason is the question
I still want answers as to why he was going to testify to the DOJ. Would it be a coincidence if it was about illegal insider trading? Dig deeper Alex. Too many layups on the “evidence “ to try and make it like he is a UnaBomber wanna be. Tea leaves my man.
Also, is there a connection to the Change HealthCare cyber security breach months ago....?
He being Thompson.
I vaguely remember reading that UHC was being investigated as part of an anti-trust suit.
I thought it was for insider trading?
You may be right!
Look into his family ties to Pelosi. They are deep.
The perps family has ties to Pelosi.
In addition, one day before UHC announced the massive data breach, Pelosi’s husband bought stock (I think calls) on Palo Alto Networks.
And who did UHC announce that they had hired to help them unwind the breach. Indeed. Palo Alto Networks
And the victim was being investigated by DOJ. And maybe was set to testify b4 a Congressional Committee about the breach.
Maybe he knew why Pelosi knew ahead of time.
There is something that smells about the entire thing. Nobody plans to the extent the perp planned, and then allows himself to get caught like that. They still haven’t solved the OKC Bombing. Waco. Ruby Ridge. Nashville. Boston Bombing.
And we should believe they got this in 5 days?
Something smells.
where are you seeing the "family" links to Pelosi?
I believe I read somewhere that the alleged killer’s Baltimore family were acquainted with Pelosi’s Baltimore family.
I would appreciate a link to that article. I too heard that those being investigated for insider trading included a long list of prominent people, Nancy Pelosi included. My son has used the App created to follow her husband’s investment strategies. If that whole thing isn’t suspicious, I don’t know what is…
Simple fact, an insurance company has to pay out less than it takes in as revenue. Unlike Social Security. If they pay out too much, they go broke. Medical expenses are based on getting enough to survive. For example, from 2019-2021 my Medicare approved expenses were in excess of $600,000. They paid nothing like that. Hospitals were lucky if they got 15% of the bill, so they have to make it up elsewhere. The system is fu__'ed but how can it be fixed. I'm too old to try.
Medical providers know in advance they won't get their full invoice paid by medicare. I started to say it's a big game, but it's not even that. It's more like kabuki theater. Both sides are in on it. They do it for the audience.
Right you are. All these providers settle for what Medicare pays happily. They know they will get their money. Our local hospital charges off several millions each year for Medicare, Medicaid and indigent care.
there lies the rub..."enough to survive" From all accounts, and by how most of those insurance companies buildings look they are surviving just FINE!
Yes it’s a business and as such their primary goal is to make money. The same is true for hospitals. Very important to remember. Oftentimes the first default step is to deny the claim for a nitpicky reason. Have to be a very squeaky wheel and even then it’s no guarantee. Write everything down. Call weekly at least and ask for a call log number and the name of the person with whom you spoke. Many other tips I won’t go into here, but you get the point. It’s very time consuming and the average patient doesn’t speak the language. They count on this, and also that you’re busy and will just go away.
The whole of social welfare rationalizes itself the way Mangione rationalized his shooting - self-determined, subjective moral declarations by self-appointed gods being imposed on all of society.
This mindset is widespread and deeply entrenched, and it is antithetical to the Rule of Law, which requires formal, universal rules and processes for dealing with violations.
Mangione declared himself to be the standard by which he judged the execution to be justified. Yes - antithetical to the Rule of Law.